May 19, 2011

Obama's Speech, Recapped: Endorses 1967 Borders for Israel
— Ace

1. Obama pretty much announced that he wants Israel to return to its 1967 borders-- thus endorsing the terrorists' key demand without requiring any substantive concessions on their part.

We agree that the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines, with mutually agreed swaps...

2. Obama offers his plan for Middle East prosperity:

Prosperity requires tearing down walls that stand in the way of progress. The corruption of the elites who steal from the people. The red tape that stops a business. The patronage that distributes wealth based on tribe or sect.

But America, of course, should do the opposite, I guess.

3. 90% of what he said was ho-hum "Sure that would be nice" crap. It was all crap like:

a. Bahrain should not shoot its protesters,

b. Bahrainian protesters should not break the laws in protesting, and

c. Iran should not exploit Bahrain's protesters.

See, this is nothing but a series of I wish that...'s. That's all it is: Impotent wishing. A boy tossing pennies in a fountain or a girl counting daisy-petals.

Very little of this is backed up by any concrete agenda. (Except for us spending money on Egypt and Tunisia, of course.)

In fact, because he wants to excuse his own failures in advance, he repeatedly cries that the US is powerless to shape events and these countries must make their own decisions and their own way (except Israel, of course: Obama has some demands for them). Over and over, he recapitulates how ineffectual the US is to achieve the very changes he's talking about.

So.

Why.

Bother.

This is a political document, pure and simple, an attempt at some post-hoc rationalization and some empty wishes (If only I were taller... if only I were richer) masquerading as foreign policy.

Oh, and Israel has to capitulate to terrorists as Hamas and Fatah drop all pretense and join together in a common, all-Palestinian united terror front.

Oh, and it's going to cost you a few billion. Don't sweat it; we can always print more of the stuff.

Update/Caveat: At the bottom of this post, Captain Ed claims that the 67 borders with swaps is not new policy, but has been US policy for a while.

I don't know. Both AP and FoxNews seem to believe this is new.


Posted by: Ace at 09:20 AM | Comments (354)
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1 First, never been, wooowooo

Posted by: Jaimo at May 19, 2011 09:22 AM (9U1OG)

2 We agree? Who's we? Obama and his pals the terrorists? What a fucking disaster this guy is! And now when islamic extremists are about to take over in Egypt.

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 19, 2011 09:23 AM (zL6Hj)

3 Does asshole in chief really think Israel would ever give back Jerusalem? Is he on drugs???

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 19, 2011 09:24 AM (zL6Hj)

4 The '67 borders plus swaps isn't new but swapping land for unicorns is.

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 19, 2011 09:25 AM (1fB+3)

5
"The corruption of the elites who steal from the people."



New York Money Men?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 19, 2011 09:26 AM (gM4zK)

6 Arab Spring!  Manly, yes, but I like it too!

Posted by: New campaign ad at May 19, 2011 09:26 AM (JO2wS)

7 "“be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps.” What the hell is this even supposed to mean?

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 19, 2011 09:27 AM (zL6Hj)

8

If Samantha Powers gets Hillary's job things will really get interesting.

And by interesting I mean completely fucked up.

In fact a lot of this is probably Samantha whispering in his ear anyway since they're buddies and all.

Posted by: Roadking at May 19, 2011 09:27 AM (u7MDB)

9 Redistribution of wealth now on a global scale. And now for those that freely declare themselves enemies of the western world.
   Priceless

Posted by: Sharia Jones at May 19, 2011 09:27 AM (3OCZw)

10 Mutally-agreed swaps? What, Bar Rafaeli for the finest camel in Egypt? Don't do it, Israel!

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 19, 2011 09:28 AM (fsGgs)

11 This was billed as a major policy speech too.

Posted by: Ben at May 19, 2011 09:28 AM (wuv1c)

12 Presiduncial translation:  Go to hell, Joooooos!  Just get the hell out and let my Muslim brothers become the caretakers of the holiest spots of the world's major religions.  Everything will be fine.  Look at what a great job they did on those ancient Buddhist relics. 

Posted by: RushBabe at May 19, 2011 09:28 AM (Ew27I)

13 SO Barry condemned Yasser Arafat and his $300 million estate grown from UN and US aid? Took someone long enough. Sounds like Barry wants Israel to committ national suicide. Bout what was expected.

Posted by: Dick_Nixon at May 19, 2011 09:28 AM (kaOJx)

14 "In fact a lot of this is probably Samantha whispering in his ear anyway since they're buddies and all." More like she's giving him a wet willy.

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 19, 2011 09:28 AM (zL6Hj)

15 Those are pre-'67 War lines.  Israel won, the Muzzies lost.  But hey, let's force Israel to give back everything to Obama's chosen people.

Every Jewish-American who votes for this asshole should be institutionalized.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 19, 2011 09:28 AM (aC/aF)

16 Fuck the Palestinian in Chief with a pickled Pig's Foot.

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2011 09:28 AM (kshf2)

17 1967 borders because there should never be a downside to starting and losing a war.

Posted by: X at May 19, 2011 09:28 AM (mr695)

18 3 Does asshole in chief really think Israel would ever give back Jerusalem? Is he on drugs???

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 19, 2011 01:24 PM (zL6Hj)

Here's a map from the Jewish virtual library, looks like Jerusalem is split...

http://tinyurl.com/56b8nh

Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 19, 2011 09:29 AM (136wp)

19 I. am. actually. Wet!?

Posted by: Helen Thomas at May 19, 2011 09:30 AM (kshf2)

20
"Mr Joo Banker, tear down these walls."
--Ronald Obama, May 19, 2011


Posted by: Soothsayer at May 19, 2011 09:30 AM (gM4zK)

Posted by: Ben at May 19, 2011 09:30 AM (wuv1c)

22 He inherited a lot of this from Bush, he just won't admit it.

Therefore, Israel must remove unauthorized outposts and stop settlement expansion. The barrier being erected by Israel as a part of its security effort must be a security, rather than political, barrier. And its route should take into account, consistent with security needs, its impact on Palestinians not engaged in terrorist activities. As we make progress toward security and in accordance with the roadmap, Israeli forces should withdraw to their positions on September the 28th, 2000.

Any final status agreement must be reached between the two parties, and changes to the 1949 Armistice Lines must be mutually agreed to. A viable two-state solution must ensure contiguity on the West Bank, and a state of scattered territories will not work. There must also be meaningful linkages between the West Bank and Gaza. This is the position of the United States today; it will be the position of the United States at the time of final status negotiations.

-George W. Bush, May, 2005

The '49 Armistice Lines are the same as the '67 borders prior to the war.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 19, 2011 09:30 AM (Ccb4c)

23 I'm still in awe of the dizziyng intellect required to put forth the idea of encouraging the MENA private sector with gobs of Western government cash.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 19, 2011 09:31 AM (fsGgs)

24

Fuck the Palestinian in Chief with a pickled Pig's Foot.

Pigs foot?  Sounds a little racist to me.

Posted by: David Gregory at May 19, 2011 09:31 AM (u7MDB)

25 Maybe we should give California to the palestinians

Posted by: Sharia Jones at May 19, 2011 09:31 AM (3OCZw)

26

SO YOU WANT TO STEEL MORE LAND FROM BROWN PEOPLE?

 

NATZIES!

Posted by: kid at May 19, 2011 09:31 AM (mn3Xu)

27 ...that hasn't happened in decades.  That was a speech!

Posted by: Helen Thomas at May 19, 2011 09:31 AM (kshf2)

28 Did he grew another teeny tiny mustache that looks like dirt on his upper lip, to show the jihadis he's still on their team?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 19, 2011 09:31 AM (mWCdo)

29

be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps.”

What the hell is this even supposed to mean?

Israel gets Hebron and Palestine gets two first round picks in return.

Posted by: Ben at May 19, 2011 09:31 AM (wuv1c)

30 What, the mere power of my awesomeness can't generate peace?

Posted by: King "Sort of a God" Barry at May 19, 2011 09:31 AM (BP6Z1)

31 The Robot Devil : Previously, the arabs had the old section of Jerusalem which contained the Temple. No fucking way are they ever going to give it back.

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 19, 2011 09:32 AM (zL6Hj)

32 How much will the French give us for the Louisiana purchase?  If he can do that and return Alaska to the Russians he might just be able to fix that electoral college problem.

Posted by: AE at May 19, 2011 09:32 AM (JO2wS)

33 Hey, Jon Stewart. Your boy just sent you to the camps again. Enjoy the shower.

Posted by: m.Johnson at May 19, 2011 09:32 AM (VsJMx)

34 “I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling. Judah will be besieged as well as Jerusalem. On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all of the nations. All who Try to move it will injure themselves”  Zechariah 12: 2-4

Posted by: Chris at May 19, 2011 09:33 AM (i3V9x)

35

Israel gets Hebron and Palestine gets two first round picks in return.

Tel Aviv and Haifa! 

Posted by: Palestinean "peace" partners (for reals) at May 19, 2011 09:33 AM (9hSKh)

36

Here's a map from the Jewish virtual library, looks like Jerusalem is split...

They got Jerusalem in the 1967 war. The old city had previously been held by the Palis.

 

It ain't going back

Posted by: Ben at May 19, 2011 09:33 AM (wuv1c)

37 We agree that the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines, with mutually agreed swaps...

What's this "we" shit, Kemo-Sabe?

Posted by: ya2daup at May 19, 2011 09:33 AM (FcKXR)

38 I don't know. Both AP and FoxNews seem to believe this is new.

Ed:

Er Â… no, he didnÂ’t.  He said that the settlement should “be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps.”  ThatÂ’s been the US position for quite a while.

I've already been wrong once here so grain of salt. Is what ed saying true? Obama seems to be implying we go back to 67 borders and start negotiating. Meaning Israel would have to swap land inside it's 1967 borders. Has that been our policy? I don't think so. I think the policy was Israel needs to surrender lands it's claimed in the West Bank in a swap. Tear down settlements. That's a big difference.

Posted by: Rocks at May 19, 2011 09:33 AM (th0op)

39 AOS: watching and recapping the Presidential speeches you won't watch because Teh Won makes you want to put your fist through the tv!

Thanks Ace!

Posted by: shibumi at May 19, 2011 09:33 AM (OKZrE)

40 31 The Robot Devil : Previously, the arabs had the old section of Jerusalem which contained the Temple. No fucking way are they ever going to give it back.

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 19, 2011 01:32 PM (zL6Hj)

Yea, I was wondering about that. I agree, I doubt they give up the Wailing Wall.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 19, 2011 09:34 AM (136wp)

41 I did not have sex with that woman...Hussein Obamao

Posted by: Don Lemon's Shriveled Dick at May 19, 2011 09:34 AM (6yyVB)

42 Sometimes "stupid muthafucka" just isn't enough when talking about Dear Leader.

This scrawny little muz wannabe is gonna get lots more people killed trying to deal with his commie-Daddy / Mommy was a whore issues.

This cocksucker will try to give Texas back to Mexico next.

Posted by: sifty at May 19, 2011 09:34 AM (2dbd9)

43 Does asshole in chief really think Israel would ever give back Jerusalem? Is he on drugs???

Jerusalem is a Muslim holy city, infidel.  Muhammad once sexually assaulted a toddler outside the city walls.  It belongs to us.

Posted by: A "Moderate" Muslim at May 19, 2011 09:34 AM (FkKjr)

44 Hey Israel, it's like the Good Book says, beat your swords into Garden Weasels and your daggers into Frisbees.

C'mon, Palestinians are awesome taxi drivers.  You'll really love 'em.

Posted by: The Bidenator at May 19, 2011 09:34 AM (BP6Z1)

45 What is this "prosperity" thing he keeps speaking about?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 19, 2011 09:35 AM (d0Tfm)

46
How about the borders achieved in 1967 after they kicked aggressive Arab ass.

They never get credit for giving huge amounts of territory back.

Posted by: Valiant at May 19, 2011 09:35 AM (9/lhd)

47 He just assured himself a one term presidency.

America's ME foreign policy is now officially the laughingstock of foreign embassies everywhere. Come to think of it, with Hillery at the helm it was doomed before she got her broom off the ground.

Posted by: Gmac at May 19, 2011 09:35 AM (y7cVS)

48 Fore!!!!

Posted by: BHO at May 19, 2011 09:36 AM (6yyVB)

49 He thinks he is dealing with the Republican leadership again.

You give us the old borders, abandon Jerusalem and will let you offer some amendments.

Fuck him

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2011 09:36 AM (M9Ie6)

50 This word "borders", I don't think it means what Obama thinks it means. Personally, I am disappointed that he missed the opportunity to suggest that Israel wants moats with alligators.

Posted by: Damiano at May 19, 2011 09:36 AM (3nrx7)

51 Jimmah looks pretty good in blackface and those fake ears.

Posted by: Roy at May 19, 2011 09:36 AM (/hWRM)

52 43 Does asshole in chief really think Israel would ever give back Jerusalem? Is he on drugs???

Jerusalem is a Muslim holy city, infidel.  Muhammad once sexually assaulted a toddler outside the city walls.  It belongs to us.

Posted by: A "Moderate" Muslim at May 19, 2011 01:34 PM (FkKjr)

And I flew up to Heaven on my horse from the top of the Temple Mount. (Never mind that I died from eating poisined lamb)

Posted by: MooHummad at May 19, 2011 09:36 AM (136wp)

53 So what's the problem? Obama wants land traded for peace, so let "Palestine" give up Samaria and Judea to Israel, and Egypt give up, say, half the Sinai to "Palestine."

Presto! Instant contiguous borders for all three countries.

(I know this will never happen, but it seems to make more sense to me than anything the Obama regime is likely to ever say. About anything.


Posted by: Josef K. at May 19, 2011 09:36 AM (7+pP9)

54 This speech was for two things only.

1.  Dog whistle for terrorists to attack unitedly against Israel.  Don't worry we won't stand in the way.

2. Whatever goes wrong, its not my fault.

That's it and that's that.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 19, 2011 09:37 AM (IXLvN)

55 Fuck him. Seriously. This country's economy is going down the shitter and THIS is what he thinks is important ? And since when has there been a claim by an outside party that Israel return to its 1967 borders ? The closes anyone ever came to any agreement on this was Clinton. Was that part of his deal ? Pretty sure it wasn't. Obama is the anti-Midas - everything he touches turns to shit.

Posted by: deadrody at May 19, 2011 09:37 AM (l9UkQ)

56 President Fuckhead.

Posted by: an erection lasting more than four hours at May 19, 2011 09:37 AM (1c0W9)

57 Our policy should be a three mile line of D10 CAT tractors pushing North, South, and East. Create a 25mile DMZ around Israel.

Wall it up, mine it, watch it.


Maybe a moat full of alligators like Obama wants.

Posted by: sifty at May 19, 2011 09:38 AM (2dbd9)

58
This cocksucker will try to give Texas back to Mexico next.

Oh, hell no.

If anything, Texas will take the rest of Mexico.

Gotta live with the people, just as well have the real estate.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 19, 2011 09:38 AM (LFiVW)

59

It doesn't look like Sparky spent much time with history and stuff. The interesting thing to watch is if his demands on Israel have any effect on media support for him here at home. A large amount of media is controlled by those who feel some sort of tribal connection with Israel. I heard AIPAC was trying to prevent their members from booing teh WON.

 

Bottom line with this speech is, like always, nothing. We spend money and Barry walks to the next photo-op.

Posted by: Sub-tard at May 19, 2011 09:38 AM (Q5+Og)

60 Captain Ed's obviously a moron. This is new stuff that effectively kills most of the settlements, partitions Jerusalem, etc. It is everything that Israel has fought against for years.

Posted by: Marcus at May 19, 2011 09:38 AM (CHrmZ)

61 I know I'm older than most of those who post here, but can you honestly tell me that a substantial number of you have scant knowledge of how the state of Israel came to be and the history of its prior conflicts with the Arab states in the region? What in hell is taught in school anymore?

Posted by: ya2daup at May 19, 2011 09:39 AM (FcKXR)

62 ... in related news, US - Mexico will start talks that borders should be based on the 1847 lines, with mutually agreed swaps...

Posted by: mark x at May 19, 2011 09:39 AM (plLN9)

63

Unbelieveable, just unbelievable. So now the President of the United States has the same goals as the radical Islamist groups??

We know he lies; we know he makes things up.  America cannot afford another four years of this.

Posted by: pat at May 19, 2011 09:40 AM (CQ1Uv)

64 The United States of America should pull back to its borders of April 1861. If it's right for Israel, then it's right for the USA.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at May 19, 2011 09:40 AM (JxMoP)

65 This cocksucker will try to give Tejas back to Mexico next.

FTFY

Posted by: Tenured Professors across AmeriKKKa at May 19, 2011 09:40 AM (Klxrr)

66

I think this answers any remaining questions as to The Vapid One's© true religion.

And it ain't Christian.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 19, 2011 09:40 AM (d0Tfm)

67 I SAID; Fore!!!  Don't get pissy with me just because you didn't duck!

Posted by: BHO at May 19, 2011 09:40 AM (6yyVB)

68 61  .... What in hell is taught in school anymore?   ---------------------   Do you really, really want to know?   You can't handle the truth ...

Posted by: mark x at May 19, 2011 09:41 AM (plLN9)

69 The brain-dead jews in New Yoooooork and South Beach will still vote for Obama................

Posted by: Pippy Longstocking at May 19, 2011 09:41 AM (48wze)

70

Oh, hell no.

If anything, Texas will take the rest of Mexico.

Gotta live with the people, just as well have the real estate.

 

Well said Mpurin! 

President Perry will never stand for that shit.

Posted by: David Gregory at May 19, 2011 09:41 AM (u7MDB)

71 This cocksucker will try to give Texas back to Mexico next. ... Works for me. We'll kick Mexico's ass again and finally be a free republic again. So long suckers!

Posted by: Damiano at May 19, 2011 09:41 AM (3nrx7)

72

Obama pretty much announced that he wants Israel to return to its 1967 borders

 

In reality, Barry would like them to return to their 1947 borders

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2011 09:42 AM (1Jaio)

73 The word cloud.  Not too revealing except for the frequent use of the word 'must'.  I gather he used his supremely confident smartest-man-in-the room authoritarian voice.  That'll get everyone on board.

Posted by: Nash Rambler at May 19, 2011 09:42 AM (vmcYN)

74 This speech was for two things only.

1.  Dog whistle for terrorists to attack unitedly against Israel.  Don't worry we won't stand in the way.

2. Whatever goes wrong, its not my fault.

That's it and that's that.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes

3. I think that at worst American Jews will stay home. But they'll probably still vote for me, baecause I have the 'D'.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2011 09:42 AM (Gzv/o)

75 Just another reason to despise Obama.

Posted by: Harry at May 19, 2011 09:42 AM (3Iw3O)

76 In response, Boehner was overwhelmed and weeped for six days.


I want a bill voted on next week banning any further aid to the Phakestinians.

Posted by: sifty at May 19, 2011 09:42 AM (2dbd9)

77

I think this answers any remaining questions as to The Vapid One's© true religion.

And it ain't Christian.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 19, 2011 01:40 PM (d0Tfm)

And it sure as hell isn't Jewish...

Posted by: yinzer at May 19, 2011 09:42 AM (/Mla1)

78

Stupid sock puppet

Hi Mpurin!

Posted by: Roadking at May 19, 2011 09:43 AM (u7MDB)

79

47 He just assured himself a one term presidency.

America's ME foreign policy is now officially the laughingstock of foreign embassies everywhere. Come to think of it, with Hillery at the helm it was doomed before she got her broom off the ground.

 

Hillary is building her portfolio of achievements for 2016. Lets see, she married a pol and put up with his shit and got to be a Senator. Now she works for pol and does a lot of shit so she will be qualified to be a Pres---ent. Typical Ivy Leaguer: look at my titles and certificates - I'm a somebody.

Posted by: Sub-tard at May 19, 2011 09:43 AM (Q5+Og)

80 ... in related news, US - Mexico will start talks that borders should be based on the 1847 lines, with mutually agreed swaps... Posted by: mark x at May 19, 2011 01:39 PM

Mexican Cession and  Gadsden Purchase.  Losers don't get to draw the boundary.

Posted by: huerfano at May 19, 2011 09:43 AM (IN2A4)

81 So, tell me more about this Community Organizin' career path... In essence, I don't have to do shit?

Posted by: A Lackluster Student With Forgettable Grades at May 19, 2011 09:43 AM (FcR7P)

82 i support a return to Israel's January 1974 borders.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2011 09:43 AM (d1FhN)

83 OT, but in the top headlines, re: the Powerline $100,000 prize - the winning entry is posted just below (though it looks to be part of the next story).

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 19, 2011 09:44 AM (yKtCr)

84 72

Obama pretty much announced that he wants Israel to return to its 1967 borders

In reality, Barry would like them to return to their 1947 borders

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2011 01:42 PM (1Jaio)

In reality, he'd like the French Mandate...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 19, 2011 09:44 AM (136wp)

85 Today Michael Medved will be interesting.  I know, I know, he's what he is on many issues that irk me too but his insight into and knowledge of Israel and the ME is unequaled, IMHO.

Posted by: observer at May 19, 2011 09:44 AM (NaEGn)

86 Capt. Ed is 100% correct. Actually all in all I donÂ’t think it was all that bad for Israel. He basically only mouthed old US Policy towards Israel and the Arabs. HOWEVER he did specifically say that trying to get a Palestinian State approved in September in the UN is wrong and the US will NOT support it. I mean obama is a jerk and has no idea what he is talking about visa vie the muslims, but for Israel this speech was not so bad. Could have been alot worse. And if he ever gets re-elected well then all bets are off

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 19, 2011 09:45 AM (i6RpT)

87 81Losers don't get to draw the boundary.

 

____________________________________________

 

That's not what the Zero says ..


Posted by: mark x at May 19, 2011 09:45 AM (plLN9)

88 25 Maybe we should give California to the palestinians

i'm gonna need a lot more ammo if you do.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2011 09:45 AM (d1FhN)

89 President Awesome-O is giving a speech about the Middle East problem? What Middle East problem? Didn't the first black President, BJ Clinton solved the Middle East problem? He told us many times. There were pictures of him between Arafat and Rabin shaking hands. Or was it all for fluff? To pad his "diplomat to the world" image? President Gutsy Call wouldnt be doing the same thing would he? Nah...

Posted by: Olliander at May 19, 2011 09:45 AM (6uiF7)

90 64 The United States of America should pull back to its borders of April 1861. If it's right for Israel, then it's right for the USA.   I will accept that as long as we don't have any repatriation going on. Oh yeah, and the borders will be moats full of gators.

Posted by: Sub-tard at May 19, 2011 09:45 AM (Q5+Og)

91

Stupid sock puppet

Hi Mpurin!




*waves at RK*

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 19, 2011 09:45 AM (LFiVW)

92

1967 borders because there should never be a downside to starting and losing a war.

And the "evil" joos should always live in vulnerability. See Sudetenland.

This time, if Egypt gets taken over by savages who provoke Israel, Israel should go all the way to the Suez, and keep it for good.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at May 19, 2011 09:46 AM (ujg0T)

93 Shalom Mutherfackers.  Aren't I just the bestest precedent evah?  That's a rhetorical question commoners.

Posted by: BHO The Enlightened One at May 19, 2011 09:46 AM (6yyVB)

94 85 72

Obama pretty much announced that he wants Israel to return to its 1967 borders

In reality, Barry would like them to return to their 1947 borders

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2011 01:42 PM (1Jaio)

In reality, he'd like the French Mandate...

what he REALLY wants is for them to return to the camps.

Posted by: redc1c4 at May 19, 2011 09:46 AM (d1FhN)

95

That speech was "Gutsy"

Our Present-a-Dent is "Ballsy"

He has such "Gravitas"

 

Posted by: Jimi at May 19, 2011 09:46 AM (JMsOK)

96

I want a bill voted on next week banning any further aid to the Phakestinians.

I'll second that, not that it'd get past the asshole Reid in the Senate.

Does anyone remember the before and after pics of the greenhouses in Gaza, I think they were, that once produced food and were destroyed by the Palis?

Yeah, now imagine that done to a country.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 19, 2011 09:47 AM (d0Tfm)

97 OT:  http://www.powerlineprize.com/

Posted by: FUBAR at May 19, 2011 09:47 AM (1fanL)

98

Used to be have to recognize Israel's right to exist and eschew terror before going back to the borders, right?

(Maybe he did say that, but that would require more reading than I'm prepared to do at this time.)

Meanwhile, in the real Islamic world, they are frothing about killing all the Jews to bring on the Mahdi and all that crap.  

Posted by: Beagle at May 19, 2011 09:47 AM (sOtz/)

99 If it hasn't been said today....

Obama SUCKS!!!

Posted by: © Sponge at May 19, 2011 09:47 AM (UK9cE)

100 If we're talking give up land, it sound be Jordan doing the giving up. Hellllooooo, JORDAN SNATCHED THE "PALESTINIAN" PARTITION!!!!! But nooo, nooo one wants to talk about that.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 19, 2011 09:48 AM (mWCdo)

101

The only claim the muslims have to Jerusalem is mo's claim to have gone to the "furtherest mosque" on a mystical horse/mule (called the Barak, by the way).  His 11 year old wife said later that his body stayed put during the supposed journey.  He didn't even claim to have been to Jerusalem on the trip.  His followers decided that was where he went on his magical mystery tour, much later.  Mo met Abraham and Jesus and accepted their adoration during the journey.

What a bunch of foma.  Mo never got within 500 miles of Jerusalem. 

Posted by: Mr. Dave at May 19, 2011 09:48 AM (hJN3R)

102

It's been a while since I checked, but I remember that Israel gave back the Sinai to Egypt contingent on several issues. One that they would never close the Suez Canal, that they wouldn't move offensive military forces into the Sinai, and several other things.

I wonder if the new Egypt will honor that agreement, and I wonder if they don't, will Israel reclaim the Sinai.

Posted by: Ben at May 19, 2011 09:48 AM (wuv1c)

103 Mexican Cession and Gadsden Purchase. Losers don't get to draw the boundary. Pretty sad when we go all the way to Mexico City and say, no thanks, what say you keep about a million square miles of dirt?

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2011 09:48 AM (FcR7P)

104 He said we had to expand the control of comerce from the few to the many = redistribution of wealth. Different ribbon on that package.

Posted by: rightzilla at May 19, 2011 09:49 AM (SPVfc)

105

Obama pretty much announced that he wants Israel to return to its 1967 borders

In reality, Barry would like them to return to their 1947 borders

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2011 01:42 PM (1Jaio)

In reality, he'd like the French Mandate...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 19, 2011 01:44 PM (136wp

You guys have got me all wrong.

Posted by: The Zyklon President at May 19, 2011 09:49 AM (1fanL)

106 Texas would like to go with its pre-1845 borders, please.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 19, 2011 09:49 AM (LFiVW)

107 Bolton: 'Implicitly Threatening Israel'

John Bolton, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, tells National Review Online that he has concerns about President ObamaÂ’s speech this afternoon on U.S. policy in the Middle East.

“Despite criticism of the Palestinians, the speech is also implicitly threatening to Israel,” Bolton says. “Remarks such as the references to the 1967 borders show Obama’s continuing lack of real appreciation for Israel’s security.”

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 19, 2011 09:49 AM (CLYmB)

108 We agree that the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines And that GE should ramp up production of ovens.

Posted by: Barack of Arabia at May 19, 2011 09:50 AM (FcR7P)

109 Just imagine....we have 6 more years of this "Gutsy" Diplomacy. I'll never make it......but I hope the rest of you Morons enjoy it!

Posted by: Jimi at May 19, 2011 09:50 AM (JMsOK)

110
'obama says two leaders in the region have stepped aside and more may follow..',
2012 election slogan 'obama please step aside'

Posted by: newsy at May 19, 2011 09:50 AM (yi+Bl)

111

Here in the US - Red tape, pay to play, corrutpion, and waivers for disasterous legislation are king.

 

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at May 19, 2011 09:50 AM (0fzsA)

112 I think Israel should go back to its 2000 B.C. borders

Posted by: Ben at May 19, 2011 09:50 AM (wuv1c)

113 “be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps.”

What the hell is this even supposed to mean?

Posted by: Tough US Immigration Policies at May 19, 2011 01:27 PM (zL6Hj)



No halfzies or takebacks!!!!!

And they said the 'adults' were in charge now.

What a fucking embarrassment this admin is. 

 

Posted by: © Sponge at May 19, 2011 09:51 AM (UK9cE)

114 In addition to the No Aid for Jihad Bill, I want a bill voted on that any operational ballistic missiles in Venezuela or anywhere else in Central or South America will be considered acts of open war by both the host country and the country of origin. The bill should lay out a mechanism that automatically authorizes President Luther Heggs to use military force to destroy the missiles, support apparatus, and the crews.

Flight time on those birds is too short to allow Precedent Rick James Jr to wait 16hrs to make a decision.

Posted by: sifty at May 19, 2011 09:51 AM (2dbd9)

115 mo's claim to have gone to the "furtherest mosque" on a mystical horse/mule (called the Barak, by the way). Was it an ass?

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2011 09:51 AM (FcR7P)

116 I just went to a walk to calm down.  It didn't help.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2011 09:52 AM (UOM48)

117 97
Does anyone remember the before and after pics of the greenhouses in Gaza, I think they were, that once produced food and were destroyed by the Palis?
Yeah, now imagine that done to a country.Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 19, 2011 01:47 PM (d0Tfm)

Looters strip Gaza greenhouses
Facilities seen as key to PalestiniansÂ’ rebuilding of area vacated by Israelis

Posted by: ya2daup at May 19, 2011 09:52 AM (FcKXR)

118 Odipstick not letting 20 years of sitting in rev wrights anti-Semitic church go to waste.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 19, 2011 09:52 AM (IXLvN)

119 Ve vould like our pre-1944 borders, please.

Posted by: Germany at May 19, 2011 09:52 AM (1fanL)

120 It's been a while since I checked, but I remember that Israel gave back the Sinai to Egypt contingent on several issues. One that they would never close the Suez Canal, that they wouldn't move offensive military forces into the Sinai, and several other things. I wonder if the new Egypt will honor that agreement, and I wonder if they don't, will Israel reclaim the Sinai. Posted by: Ben at May 19, 2011 01:48 PM (wuv1c) Egypt may or may not honor it. But I doubt Israel needs the aggrevatoin of re-occypying the Sinai. They would no doubt react with force of arms if Egypt ever tried to re-militarize the Sinai, but they would not re-occupy it. Only destroy any armor, large troop concentrations, and aviation that dares cross the Canal without permission

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 19, 2011 09:52 AM (i6RpT)

121 We'd like everything to go back to pre 1776 borders.

Posted by: England at May 19, 2011 09:53 AM (3nrx7)

122 91 64 The United States of America should pull back to its borders of April 1861. If it's right for Israel, then it's right for the USA.   I will accept that as long as we don't have any repatriation going on. Oh yeah, and the borders will be moats full of gators.

Posted by: Sub-tard at May 19, 2011 01:45 PM (Q5+Og)

Nope. I claimed the right of return in the last thread. Alabama, here I come!

Posted by: Josef K. , itchin' to leave PA at May 19, 2011 09:53 AM (7+pP9)

123 108 Bolton: 'Implicitly Threatening Israel'

John Bolton, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, tells National Review Online that he has concerns about President ObamaÂ’s speech this afternoon on U.S. policy in the Middle East.

“Despite criticism of the Palestinians, the speech is also implicitly threatening to Israel,” Bolton says. “Remarks such as the references to the 1967 borders show Obama’s continuing lack of real appreciation for Israel’s security.”


Cain/West '12, Bolton Sec. of State

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2011 09:53 AM (UOM48)

124 No one can really know what happened in Israel. My Heeb friends don't, either. So I don't think we're qualified to comment on this speech.

Posted by: DazedAndConcerned at May 19, 2011 09:53 AM (FePvp)

125 We agree that the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines, with mutually agreed swaps... If one of those swaps is that you return to 1967 Indonesia, I'm all for it...

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2011 09:53 AM (FcR7P)

126 Never again? Pffffft

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 19, 2011 09:54 AM (dKCBV)

127 President Al Sharpton

Posted by: Jimi at May 19, 2011 09:54 AM (JMsOK)

128

Barry forgot to mention that he's going to put Helen Thomas in charge of sorting out the borders

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2011 09:54 AM (1Jaio)

129 117 I just went to a walk to calm down.  It didn't help.

You need to stimulate more endorphin release, Mrs. D'oh.

btw, how is your son doing?  Has he been sent off yet?

/God bless him, along with every one of our servicemen and women. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 19, 2011 09:54 AM (9hSKh)

130 The United States of America should pull back to its borders of April 1861. If it's right for Israel, then it's right for the USA.   I will accept that as long as we don't have any repatriation going on. Oh yeah, and the borders will be moats full of gators.

Posted by: Sub-tard at May 19, 2011 01:45 PM (Q5+Og)

Nope. I claimed the right of return in the last thread. Alabama, here I come!

Posted by: Josef K. , itchin' to leave PA at May 19, 2011 01:53 PM (7+pP9)

Talk about an illegitimate land grab.  Let's right the past eeevils of the US, hey lefties?

Posted by: FUBAR, UnReconstructed at May 19, 2011 09:55 AM (1fanL)

131 Obama carries a Saladin lunchbox inside his briefcase.

Posted by: sifty at May 19, 2011 09:55 AM (2dbd9)

132

SO YOU WANT TO STEEL MORE LAND FROM BROWN PEOPLE?

NATZIES!

Posted by: kid at May 19, 2011 01:31 PM (mn3Xu)



But seriously......what the FUCK are you talking about?!?

You really make sense to yourself?  They're ALL brown in the middle east, you shitstick.

Posted by: © Sponge at May 19, 2011 09:55 AM (UK9cE)

133

 Â“Remarks such as the references to the 1967 borders show ObamaÂ’s continuing lack of real appreciation for IsraelÂ’s security.”

 

Oh yeah! Well....uh....yeah, I got nuth'n.

Can you maybe break it down for me?

Posted by: Prezident Moats 'n Gators at May 19, 2011 09:55 AM (u7MDB)

134 We like to see everything go back to the 6th and 5th century BC borders.

Posted by: Spartans! at May 19, 2011 09:55 AM (9hSKh)

135 127 Never again? Pffffft

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 19, 2011 01:54 PM (dKCBV)

"Next Year In Jerusalem" our new theme song!

Posted by: MooHummad at May 19, 2011 09:55 AM (136wp)

136 For fairness, before Israel returns to its 1967 borders, I think the USA should return to its 1785 borders.

Posted by: Mark Aloha at May 19, 2011 09:55 AM (bcaTJ)

137
Did Captain Ed say, "In fairness...?"

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 19, 2011 09:56 AM (gM4zK)

138 Kratos, thanks for asking.  He leaves this winter. 

As for endorphins, sitting in the bathtub full of rubbing alcohol shaving my legs with a Brillo pad didn't help (it was to offset the pain of listening to Rush describe Teh Death to Jooos Speech).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2011 09:56 AM (UOM48)

139 125 No one can really know what happened in Israel. My Heeb friends don't, either. So I don't think we're qualified to comment on this speech. Posted by: DazedAndConcerned at May 19, 2011 01:53 PM (FePvp) Yeah, and if you can't say something nice, just don't say anything.

Posted by: Retarded Dem Cocksucker at May 19, 2011 09:56 AM (VXBR1)

140 Ed is a meme-weaver for Obama

Posted by: Cherry π at May 19, 2011 09:56 AM (+sBB4)

141

Talk about an illegitimate land grab.  Let's right the past eeevils of the US, hey lefties?

Posted by: FUBAR, UnReconstructed at May 19, 2011 01:55 PM (1fanL)

Well, there is all that BLM land sitting around doing nothing.

Posted by: ErikW at May 19, 2011 09:56 AM (X25GY)

142 From NYT;

"A senior administration official said that Mr. ObamaÂ’s advisers remained deeply divided over whether he should formally endorse IsraelÂ’s pre-1967 borders as the starting point for negotiations over a Palestinian state.

That he did so sent a strong signal that the United States expected Israel — as well as the Palestinians — to make concessions to restart peace talks that have been stalled since September."


Ed's wrong.

Posted by: Lauren at May 19, 2011 09:56 AM (U58WB)

143 My brilliant father appeared to me in a dream --  mobilize several million Obamadollars and tons of wheat to my vassal King of Jordan. In this way I will bring peace to the oppressed Palistahnian.

Posted by: Baracky and his Multicolored Coat at May 19, 2011 09:57 AM (ieMxB)

144
 Is Arab Spring a feminine douche?

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 19, 2011 09:57 AM (cwFVA)

145 The 1811 borders for us, if you don't mind.

Posted by: Napoleonic France at May 19, 2011 09:57 AM (1fanL)

146 Ed's wrong. Posted by: Lauren at May 19, 2011 01:56 PM (U58WB) No he is not. That has always been American Policy . 67 borders with modifications

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 19, 2011 09:58 AM (i6RpT)

147

Headline on Drudge tells it all. Barky has never fooled anyone as to where his allegiance was with Palestine.

Again, see his Chicago buddy, Rashid Khalidi.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at May 19, 2011 09:58 AM (FnRYN)

148 Israel, not one fucking inch. Not one. Screw Obama, screw the Palestinians, screw the Muslims. I'm going to have to up my anti depressants.

Posted by: mpfs at May 19, 2011 09:58 AM (UoPPX)

149 Sometimes the imperialists' propaganda entertainment industry strikes the nail on the head:

So long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people - greedy, barbarous, and cruel, as you are.

-- T. J. Lawrence in Lawrence of Arabia

Posted by: ya2daup at May 19, 2011 09:58 AM (FcKXR)

150
Every Palestinian should be awarded a honorary doctorate, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 19, 2011 09:58 AM (gM4zK)

151 Israel has applied for a Death Waiver

Posted by: Cherry π at May 19, 2011 09:59 AM (+sBB4)

152 Ed might not be wrong, but he IS a douchebag.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 19, 2011 09:59 AM (1fanL)

153
Newt up next on Rush after the obscene advertising break.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 19, 2011 09:59 AM (cwFVA)

154 I told you all my boy Barry would handle the Joooos.

Posted by: Reverend Wright at May 19, 2011 10:00 AM (NaEGn)

155 Drudges interpretation is wrong and I doubt the Israelis will go bat shit over it at all. In fact he said the US will NOT support any move in September for a vote on Palestinian Statehood. All in all not a bad day for ISrael

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 19, 2011 10:00 AM (i6RpT)

156 Don't be so rough on me, Ace. I'm also setting up a $1-billion Pali fund to buy Israelis these really cool yellow stars that they can sew onto their coats!

Posted by: president o'bumbles at May 19, 2011 10:00 AM (Y1DZt)

157 Mr. President, I'm ready for my Ambassadorship to Israel now.

Posted by: Jimmeh Carter at May 19, 2011 10:00 AM (AN8d5)

158 Barack Obama the Great Muslim Uniter

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2011 10:00 AM (kshf2)

159

>>> Is Arab Spring a feminine douche?

If by feminine you mean for goats and camels then yes.

Posted by: Roadking at May 19, 2011 10:00 AM (u7MDB)

160 Personally, 1765 borders for your colonies would be great. Mkay?

Posted by: King George III at May 19, 2011 10:00 AM (6uiF7)

161 Out: Return the Churchill bust
In: Return the Juice

Posted by: Cherry π at May 19, 2011 10:00 AM (+sBB4)

162 154
Newt up next on Rush after the obscene advertising break.

He'd better not go easy on the lizard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2011 10:01 AM (UOM48)

163 All Fakestinians get to edit the Harvard Law Review and play for the Bulls.

In fairness.

Posted by: Precedent 00Muzz at May 19, 2011 10:01 AM (2dbd9)

164 42
This cocksucker will try to give Texas back to Mexico next.

Posted by: sifty at May 19, 2011 01:34 PM (2dbd9)

Sounds like a perfect opportunity for me to reach around across the aisle again!

Posted by: Juan McCain at May 19, 2011 10:01 AM (MIwwh)

165 I'm going to have to up my anti depressants.

Posted by: mpfs at May 19, 2011 01:58 PM (UoPPX)

Just do what I do. Drink more!

And speaking of drinking more, Newt's next up on Rush to talk about JEF's speech, according to Rush.

Posted by: ErikW at May 19, 2011 10:01 AM (X25GY)

166

>>> Is Arab Spring a feminine douche?

If by feminine you mean for goats and camels then yes.

Posted by: Roadking at May 19, 2011 02:00 PM (u7MDB)

Ah, so it's a feminist douche.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 19, 2011 10:01 AM (1fanL)

167

I'm sure someone has mentioned this up in the comments, but I'm in a rush so I'm afraid I haven't gotten to read them.  I apologize!

The pulling back to 1967 borders thing isn't NEW new, but what's new is that it comes with no caveat related to Right of Return.  All previous calls for a withdrawal, yadda, yadda, have included the proviso that the Palis can no longer seek a Right of Return.  Without that caveat, all bets are off. 

Posted by: MWR at May 19, 2011 10:01 AM (4df7R)

168 Before 1967 Jerusalem was Jordan's. (And before that the Brits', and before the Turks'). WHY WHY WHY should the "Palestinias" get it?!

Posted by: Lea at May 19, 2011 10:01 AM (5oaMr)

169 Give the palisinians a membership to netflix and some popcorn

Posted by: Sharia Jones at May 19, 2011 10:01 AM (3OCZw)

170

War 101 in the ME, Israel version:

1. You attack me.

2. I fight back.

3. I win.

4. I keep every square inch of land that I won in step 2.

5. You want it back? You're welcome to try step 1 again, if you're so inclined.

6. Try to remember step 3.

 

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 19, 2011 10:01 AM (d0Tfm)

171 Why do all the good threads go up while I'm at lunch?  Anyway, whichever moron noted that Barry has lots of goals, but no plans had that exactly right.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 19, 2011 10:02 AM (GTbGH)

172 Posted by: Juan McCain at May 19, 2011 02:01 PM (MIwwh) LMFAO

Posted by: Olliander at May 19, 2011 10:02 AM (6uiF7)

173
He'd better not go easy on the lizard.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2011 02:01 PM (UOM4

I expect a lot of obfuscation and misdirection from Newt, without the sophomoric fart jokes necessary for a moron candidacy. 


Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 19, 2011 10:02 AM (cwFVA)

174 Um.  As long as we're rectifying borders...

Posted by: Andalusia at May 19, 2011 10:02 AM (1fanL)

175 171:

Amen.

Posted by: Precedent 00Muzz at May 19, 2011 10:03 AM (2dbd9)

176 The MSM will report this as just some "misunderstanding" from the radical right wing press, and will claim Obama means post 1967.

The Arab press and websites will report this as pre-1967 borders.

Profit!!!

Posted by: Cherry π at May 19, 2011 10:03 AM (+sBB4)

177  Typical Ivy Leaguer: look at my titles and certificates - I'm a somebody.

Posted by: Sub-tard at May 19, 2011 01:43 PM (Q5+Og)

I thought you said titties and I almost blew chunks.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 19, 2011 10:03 AM (yQWNf)

178 Sometimes the imperialists' propaganda entertainment industry strikes the nail on the head:

So long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people - greedy, barbarous, and cruel, as you are.

-- T. J. Lawrence in Lawrence of Arabia

Posted by: ya2daup at May 19, 2011 01:58 PM (FcKXR) 


It is ashame they never made Churchill's book into a movie.

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2011 10:03 AM (WkuV6)

179 land for peace!

Haven't we heard that before?

I would like to see the Israeli Prime Minister go on the news and say to Obama "I have a reply in three words, Kiss My Ass".

Posted by: Vic at May 19, 2011 10:03 AM (M9Ie6)

180

What's Next.....Everyday is something devastating with President Monkey Ears. I don't know how you all are holding up, but I have had it!

Burn it Down as far as I'm concerned!  

Posted by: Jimi at May 19, 2011 10:04 AM (JMsOK)

181 We demand a return to the borders of 2,000,000 B.C. ... and we insist that you tell 'Chelle, "No, you can't go home again".

Posted by: ZLF (Zinjanthropus Liberation Front) at May 19, 2011 10:04 AM (FcKXR)

182

Related in a metaphysical way, I guess. I just rec'd this post from my wife, toiling in the belly of the beast (Academia).

"Spent the morning with an amazing WWII vet, who told us all about landing on Utah Beach in the first wave on D-Day, being wounded three times--including being shot in the shoulder!--and then sent back to front each time, and celebrating in Czechoslovakia with cognac-drinking, dancing-in-the-street Russians when the war ended. And my students seemed profoundly moved to hear about his experiences. we'll remember his words in two weeks when we arrive in Normandy...luckily we don't have to get there by sea!"

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 19, 2011 10:04 AM (Z05lF)

183 170 Give the palisinians a membership to netflix Blockbuster and some popcorn

Posted by: Sharia Jones at May 19, 2011 02:01 PM (3OCZw)

FIFY.  Why give them a membership to anything worthwhile?  They're all still living in the Bronze Age.  They probably think a Blu-Ray player is the modern equivalent of Aladdin's lamp.

Posted by: MWR at May 19, 2011 10:04 AM (4df7R)

184 "Drudges interpretation is wrong."

It's not just Drudge. It's everyone (except you and Ed) who heard the speech's interpretation.

"1967 lines" mean the lines that existed before the war. That has never been our public policy, because it means losing Jerusalem.

Posted by: Lauren at May 19, 2011 10:04 AM (U58WB)

185 You wanna talk historical borders?

Posted by: Homo Neanderthalensis at May 19, 2011 10:05 AM (1fanL)

186 Jerusalem? Never heard of it.




Posted by: Cherry π at May 19, 2011 10:05 AM (+sBB4)

187 There are fears there will soon be a second world missile crisis after it was reported that Iran, who are fierce enemies of Israel, are due to build a mid-range rocket base in Venezuela. According to German paper Die Welt Iran have bought launch pads on the Paraguana Peninsula, and the Middle East country's engineers visited the site in February...According to the Jerusalem Post Iran will build intermediate-range missile launch pads on the Paraguana Peninsula, located roughly 120km from America's main South American ally, Columbia.

Posted by: Speaking of borders at May 19, 2011 10:05 AM (NaEGn)

188 The Crusades will be better this time. We got camera phones now and the Christians and Jews will be fighting together this time.

Do we actually need the Pope to preach the new Crusade, or can like a Baptist minister get this shit rollin'?

We're burning daylight.

Remember to dress light and bring sunscreen.

Posted by: sifty at May 19, 2011 10:06 AM (2dbd9)

189 Can we start the burning now?

Posted by: Trashcan Man at May 19, 2011 10:07 AM (3nrx7)

190
Barky assumed the role of Ali Baba when he discovered our treasure, and now doles it out to his friends the Muslims to buy acceptance as The Won.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 19, 2011 10:07 AM (cwFVA)

191 Half-pale face want to fix borders?

Posted by: American Indians at May 19, 2011 10:07 AM (1fanL)

192

Prosperity requires tearing down walls that stand in the way of progress. The corruption of the elites who steal from the people. The red tape that stops a business. The patronage that distributes wealth based on tribe or sect.

Demsoc - English translation:

"Prosperity requires that you start behaving more like Americans do, but I can't come out and say that, because that would be acting like a cowboy instead of the cool internationalist.  And don't worry about competition from America, because my policies are aimed at turning it into a nation rife with socialist lethargy, class / race envy, and political corruption, just like you are already."

Posted by: Ass. Press at May 19, 2011 10:07 AM (UeZGr)

193 someone should ask the JEF this...........   you want secure our borders, how can you tell others what todo with theirs?

Posted by: Racefan at May 19, 2011 10:07 AM (prJUt)

194 France wants Louisiana back

Posted by: Cherry π at May 19, 2011 10:07 AM (+sBB4)

195

>>> What's Next.....Everyday is something devastating with President Monkey Ears. I don't know how you all are holding up, but I have had it!

Burn it Down as far as I'm concerned!  

Posted by: Jimi at May 19, 2011 02:04 PM (JMsOK)

 

You might want to pump the brakes a couple of times there Jimi.  I'm picturing Lloyd Bridges in Airplane! when I read your comments.

 

 

Posted by: Roadking at May 19, 2011 10:07 AM (u7MDB)

196
Here's my offer:

i. No additional land. And I take away Gaza
ii. 50% off deodorant and soap
iii. Free Anger Management classes

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 19, 2011 10:08 AM (gM4zK)

197 someone should ask the JEF this...........   you want secure our borders, how can you tell others what todo with theirs?

Posted by: Racefan at May 19, 2011 02:07 PM (prJUt)

Who told you he wants to secure our borders?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 19, 2011 10:08 AM (1fanL)

198 Not to pick nits, but didn't Israel fire the first shot in the 6 Day War? In response to Arab aggression?

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 19, 2011 10:08 AM (LFiVW)

199 This cocksucker will try to give Texas back to Mexico next.

Can I have 16 hours to think it over?  We have won our independence from the Mexicans once before.

Posted by: Bob Muff Cabbage Saget at May 19, 2011 10:08 AM (F/4zf)

200 Obama to Berliners: "Rebuild that wall"

Posted by: Cherry π at May 19, 2011 10:09 AM (+sBB4)

201

War 101 in the ME, Israel version:

1. You attack me.

2. I fight back.

3. I win.

4. I keep every square inch of land that I won in step 2.

4.5  Whine like a bitch

5. You want it back? You're welcome to try step 1 again, if you're so inclined.

6. Try to remember step 3.

6.5  Ohh, thats right - step 3 sucks. We just kill women and kids going to school so we feel like proud arab warriors.

 

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 19, 2011 02:01 PM

(d0Tfm)

Posted by: Little green warrior bird at May 19, 2011 10:09 AM (WkuV6)

202

Fuck off, like your name is so great!

Posted by: Mr. Pew Poll at May 19, 2011 10:09 AM (Z05lF)

203 Rush/Newt thread up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2011 10:09 AM (UOM48)

204 HA! Fox is cataloguing all the sites that would be lost if this happens. Bet the odds are high that IF they succeed, they destroy everyone else's religious sites so that there is nothing to give back.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 19, 2011 10:09 AM (mWCdo)

205

Rush is on Newt like a fly on sugar.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 19, 2011 10:09 AM (cwFVA)

206 President Monkey Ears 

Posted by: Jimi at May 19, 2011 02:04 PM (JMsOK)

Racist.

Posted by: Chimpy McHitlerburton at May 19, 2011 10:09 AM (1fanL)

207 201 someone should ask the JEF this...........   you want secure our borders, how can you tell others what todo with theirs?

Posted by: Racefan at May 19, 2011 02:07 PM (prJUt)

Who told you he wants to secure our borders?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 19, 2011 02:08 PM (1fanL)

I think Racefan meant "won't secure our borders."

Posted by: MWR at May 19, 2011 10:10 AM (4df7R)

208 What the hell is Newt talking about.  A years old tape? huh?

Posted by: jewells45 at May 19, 2011 10:10 AM (l/N7H)

209

Hugo Chavez? Do worry Obama will go down there and help them do it. It is what our "Gutsy" President calls "Fair."

I.Swear.To.God

Posted by: Jimi at May 19, 2011 10:10 AM (JMsOK)

210 When you care enough to send the very best.

Posted by: Hallmark at May 19, 2011 10:10 AM (nBE5A)

211 All aboard, all you Jews, get into the high-speed train. Choo! Choo! Chooooo!

Posted by: joey biden at May 19, 2011 10:10 AM (Y1DZt)

212 203 This cocksucker will try to give Texas back to Mexico next.

Can I have 16 hours to think it over?  We have won our independence from the Mexicans once before.

Posted by: Bob Muff Cabbage Saget at May 19, 2011 02:08 PM (F/4zf)

I thought Texas was authorized to divide it's territory into 5 states. They've already used two slots, so - carve it up Perry!

Posted by: The Robot Devil at May 19, 2011 10:10 AM (136wp)

213 "1967 lines" mean the lines that existed before the war. That has never been our public policy, because it means losing Jerusalem. Posted by: Lauren at May 19, 2011 02:04 PM (U58WB) No it does NOT. You seem to have forgotten the term "modifications" . In ALL recent negotiations Israel retains parts of the OLD City.

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 19, 2011 10:11 AM (i6RpT)

214 202:

When confronted in an alley by six crazy muggers, I believe it is acceptable to start kicking them in the nuts.

Posted by: sifty at May 19, 2011 10:11 AM (2dbd9)

215 Not to pick nits, but didn't Israel fire the first shot in the 6 Day War? In response to Arab aggression?

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 19, 2011 02:08 PM (LFiVW)

Israel fired the first shot in response to Arab aggression.  I guess that's one way to put it.

Posted by: That Does Not Compute at May 19, 2011 10:11 AM (1fanL)

216 Am listening to Rush. Interesting that Newt has been to "Waterloo" Iowa this week. He is spinning madly.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at May 19, 2011 10:11 AM (FnRYN)

217 Michelle and I will leave immediately on a junket to Palestine to Teach [their youth] How to Dougie and eat right.

Posted by: Ambassador Jimmeh Carter at May 19, 2011 10:11 AM (AN8d5)

218 There are fears there will soon be a second world missile crisis

Fortunately, Republicans with prescient vision spent alot of R&D dollars doing the impossible.  Thank you President Reagan.

Posted by: Little green warrior bird at May 19, 2011 10:11 AM (WkuV6)

219

I think Racefan meant "won't secure our borders."

Posted by: MWR at May 19, 2011 02:10 PM (4df7R)

oic.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 19, 2011 10:12 AM (1fanL)

220 61 I know I'm older than most of those who post here, but can you honestly tell me that a substantial number of you have scant knowledge of how the state of Israel came to be and the history of its prior conflicts with the Arab states in the region? What in hell is taught in school anymore?

Posted by: ya2daup at May 19, 2011 01:39 PM (FcKXR)

I never learned a damned thing about Israel, and I'm 50, a product of a state university.  Anything I know to date has been self taught within the last 4 years, as I tried to understand this wicked muslim hatred of the infidel.  Frankly, Geller piqued my interest in the jewish situation several years ago.  I couldn't believe her wailing about the danger jews were in.  Then, it became oh, so clear.

Posted by: Derak at May 19, 2011 10:12 AM (63jmT)

221 What's hebrew for "Bite me."?

Posted by: sherlock at May 19, 2011 10:12 AM (UeZGr)

222 Some people over at Hotair are also pointing out this line "Sovereign and contiguous Palestinian state. "

How is that going to work, exactly? Obama just called for Israel to lose over half of it's landmass.

Posted by: Lauren at May 19, 2011 10:12 AM (U58WB)

223 Opps - sock off, put the Little green warrior bird away until I need to mock islam again.

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2011 10:13 AM (WkuV6)

224 Where has the use of the term "land swaps" come into play before? The position before stated  it needed to be negotiated. Negotiation does not mean land for land. Where has it been our position that land in pre-1967 Israel must be swapped for any gains in the West bank or Jerusalem?

Posted by: Rocks at May 19, 2011 10:13 AM (th0op)

225 In fact he said the US will NOT support any move in September for a vote on Palestinian Statehood.

Remember, ALWAYS, he says one thing but does another.  Do not forget.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 19, 2011 10:14 AM (IXLvN)

226

POTUS was quoting my pop sensation 10 year old daughter in that speech.

Posted by: Will Smith at May 19, 2011 10:14 AM (qITbz)

227 Bite me in Hebrew = kfotz li


Posted by: Lauren at May 19, 2011 10:15 AM (U58WB)

228 whoever keeps saying this will be no big deal to israel, bibi just politely told the jef to fuck off.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at May 19, 2011 10:15 AM (mWCdo)

229 Some people over at Hotair are also pointing out this line "Sovereign and contiguous Palestinian state. " How is that going to work, exactly? Obama just called for Israel to lose over half of it's landmass. Posted by: Lauren at May 19, 2011 02:12 PM (U58WB) NO it does not. You really should read some history first before you comment on this stuff. There has always been discussion about some highway to connect gaza and the west bank so they could be "contiguous". Do I think that is doable or a good idea? Not so much, but it is possible and has been American Policy in the past.

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 19, 2011 10:15 AM (i6RpT)

230 Mark my words: this will open Obama up to a primary challenge probably from Hillary!

Posted by: Smiley at May 19, 2011 10:16 AM (CduH2)

231 Lauren -

1.  A big tunnel?
2.  Move all of the paleos to gaza, and occupy the West Bank
3.  Split the West Bank with Jordan; ship all of the recalcitrant paleos to their new Sovereign and Contiguous state of Gaza.
4.   Move all of the paleo's to the northern Greenland; they like green and with "global warming" it should be balmy soon.

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2011 10:16 AM (WkuV6)

232 145
 Is Arab Spring a feminine douche?

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 19, 2011 01:57 PM (cwFVA)

No, but "Barack Obama" is.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 19, 2011 10:16 AM (T0NGe)

233 Obama speaks in generalizations and contradictions because he can't say what he's really working for.

Weakening us, emboldening our enemies.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 19, 2011 10:16 AM (bxiXv)

234 Israel fired the first shot in response to Arab aggression.  I guess that's one way to put it.


Arabs were massing troops on their borders, but never shot anything. Israel couldn't maintain a level or high alert waiting for an invasion, so they took preemptive action.

Technically, Israel shot first. Not that it wasn't justified, but they had yet to be attacked.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 19, 2011 10:16 AM (LFiVW)

235 These could all be good things.

How much will the French give us for the Louisiana purchase?
DC takes the money & continues pissing it away.  Giving time for the sane to flee the doomed  Some Frog Ecole-de-Boner graduate breaks bad on a sistah in Nawlins vs. a scared immigrant, gets his bonaparte, they quit back to Paris & 1/4? of the country is free.

return Alaska to the Russians
Cut off from the teat the parasites leave, District Governor (whatever the Rooskies call state level bosses) Palin takes a few of Putin's would be commisars caribou hunting & boom AK is free.

This cocksucker will try to give Texas back to Mexico next.
Texas takes Mexico, kills the Zetas, etc. becomes 2nd superpower, bonus cerveza & burritos all around.

Posted by: Always look on the bright side of life at May 19, 2011 10:18 AM (WRhh3)

236 nevergiveup - even the paleos have given up on the highway idea, why would Barry resurrect it.

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2011 10:18 AM (WkuV6)

237

Just wait til Irael strikes oil.

Posted by: Hal Lindsey at May 19, 2011 10:18 AM (nBE5A)

238 Obama sucks cock, why people like Ed ever give him the benefit of the doubt is beyond me.

Posted by: Mr Pink at May 19, 2011 10:19 AM (48U87)

239

This is unbelievable. I thought appeasement was thrown out forever as a political tactic in 1939.

I cannot fathom how ones brain can think that if we ‘give’ these lunatics half of Jerusalem, they will stop the jihad.

Its been documented over and over that when governments appease muslims.. in middle east or a better example is thailand. The muslims go MORE insane and try to take EVERYTHING.

The President is such a mental lightweight its beyond belief. HeÂ’s been told by the media that heÂ’s sooo soo smart that he assumes his random thoughts are the work of genius and any policy must be good because of his genius. Tyrrants get caught in this trap all throughout history. Napoleon is an obvious example of someone who started good, but went over the cliff as he thought his genius could not come up with a bad idea

Posted by: Billy Ruben at May 19, 2011 10:19 AM (V+aEN)

240 175 Um.  As long as we're rectifying borders...

Posted by: Andalusia at May 19, 2011 02:02 PM (1fanL)

You're next!

Posted by: Hamas Spokesgoat at May 19, 2011 10:19 AM (cv5Iw)

241

Israel fired the first shot in response to Arab aggression.  I guess that's one way to put it.

Posted by: That Does Not Compute at May 19, 2011 02:11 PM (1fanL)

The Arabs sent away the UN teams separating the two sides, in preparation for an attack. The Israelis attacked first, catching them my surprise.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 19, 2011 10:20 AM (z1N6a)

242 Where has the use of the term "land swaps" come into play before? The position before stated it needed to be negotiated. Negotiation does not mean land for land. Where has it been our position that land in pre-1967 Israel must be swapped for any gains in the West bank or Jerusalem? Posted by: Rocks at May 19, 2011 02:13 PM (th0op) In all of the past Israeli-Palestinians negotions they have had land swaps on the table and all past Israeli Gov have talked about it

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 19, 2011 10:21 AM (i6RpT)

243 "There has always been discussion about some highway to connect gaza and the west bank so they could be "contiguous""

And those conversations have gone all of nowhere.

Posted by: Lauren at May 19, 2011 10:22 AM (U58WB)

244 Hey, Jon Stewart. Your boy just sent you to the camps again. Enjoy the shower.

Posted by: m.Johnson at May 19, 2011 01:32 PM (VsJMx)


Baaaaaaaaaah  ZING!!!

Nicely played.

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at May 19, 2011 10:22 AM (XyjRQ)

245 Let's split Washington DC up. Someone else was there first anyway.

Posted by: I love everybody at May 19, 2011 10:23 AM (nBE5A)

246 While we're at it, we should split up New York City.

Posted by: I love everybody at May 19, 2011 10:24 AM (nBE5A)

247 The Israelis had the whole Arab command and comms channels compromised; they knew what was coming - they mobilized faster and struck first.  Moltke (the Elder) would have been proud.

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2011 10:24 AM (WkuV6)

248 BTW, Bibi just rejected Obama's call for 1967 borders. Looks like he took it to mean exactly the same way everyone else did.

Posted by: Lauren at May 19, 2011 10:25 AM (U58WB)

249 Heh.
Knesset member calls Odipstick the new Arafat.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 19, 2011 10:25 AM (IXLvN)

250 Hey, Jon Stewart. Your boy just sent you to the camps again. Enjoy the shower. Posted by: m.Johnson at May 19, 2011 01:32 PM (VsJMx)

That's not fair.  I love Jooos.  Especially with a side of fava beans.

Posted by: The Zyklon President at May 19, 2011 10:25 AM (1fanL)

251

I thought appeasement was thrown out forever as a political tactic in 1939.

Appeasement? 1939? Kfotz li?

Posted by: Charles K. Smith at May 19, 2011 10:26 AM (UeZGr)

252 Let's split Washington DC up. Someone else was there first anyway.

Posted by: I love everybody at May 19, 2011 02:23 PM (nBE5A)

Delaware needs to be contiguous to West Delaware: Delaware County in Ohio.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 19, 2011 10:26 AM (z1N6a)

253 My idea for land swaps - the Arabs lose 100 acres for every missile or mortar round fired; 500 acres for every suicide attack.  The first acreage would be a 1/2mi wide strip across gaza along the Egyptian border.  Then Temple Mount.

Posted by: Jean at May 19, 2011 10:28 AM (WkuV6)

254 Samantha Power, is she the one that called Hillary a "monster" during the 2008 Dem Prez primary?  If so, wouldn't replacing Hillary with her be a huge F.U. to the Clinton wing by the Obama wing.

Posted by: hughie at May 19, 2011 10:28 AM (+56Bh)

255

Eli Cohen (Israeli spy who was Assad's best friend) convinced Syria that its officers in the Golan needed shade to keep them fresh.  His idea was to import shade trees for the officers, which Syria did.  Israel then just bombed the alien trees in the war and destroyed the Syrian Golan emplacements.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 19, 2011 02:27 PM (G/MYk)

Not so good for Eli. He had been hung as a spy a few years earlier.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 19, 2011 10:29 AM (z1N6a)

256 This is beyond an undoable idea. It's just insane. Even if Gaza and the West Bank were actually contiguous, they would still never be "one nation" since the Gazans and the arabs on the West Bank are very different people and they hate each other. You will always have the situation you have today, one government over the West Bank (and a joke one, at that) and another over Gaza. The highway idea is just some idiocy to help make the plan more laughable and ridiculous than it already was and to try and preserve the insane delusion of one fakestinian state. Nobody with a brain ever took it seriously. Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 19, 2011 02:23 PM (G/MYk) A) if the Arabs can't get their act together and have one gov that is their problem and I did not address that. B) and actually they have had plans to a highway that has some tunnels and some bridges. Do I think it is a great idea-no. But that is what has been talked about and what "contiguous" means in this context. It does NOT mean that Israel would give away half of the Negev.

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 19, 2011 10:31 AM (i6RpT)

257

Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 19, 2011 02:23 PM (G/MYk)

What many fail to realize is just how small of an area we are talking about in Israel.

You can literaly shoot artillery rounds all the way across the country from that 'Palistinian' Highway.... AND they could cut Israel in half economicly any time they wished by stopping Israelis from 'crossing' the Highway...

Really really bad idea...

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 19, 2011 10:34 AM (NtXW4)

258 And high-speed boxcars!

Posted by: Barack Odachau at May 19, 2011 10:35 AM (FcR7P)

259 JERUSALEM — Israel's prime minister has rejected a key aspect of President Barack Obama's policy speech, saying that a return to his country's 1967 borders would spell disaster for the Jewish state. In a statement released late Thursday, Benjamin Netanyahu called the 1967 lines "indefensible." The tough stand could set the stage for a tense meeting Friday when Netanyahu goes to the White House. In his speech, Obama said a future Palestinian state must be based in territories captured by Israel in the 1967 Mideast war, with minor adjustments reached through negotiations. Netanyahu said such a withdrawal would jeopardize Israel's security and leave major West Bank settlements outside Israeli borders.

Posted by: Sassy at May 19, 2011 10:36 AM (Cd5ME)

260 Some people over at Hotair are also pointing out this line "Sovereign and contiguous Palestinian state. "

How is that going to work, exactly? Obama just called for Israel to lose over half of it's landmass.

Posted by: Lauren at May 19, 2011 02:12 PM (U58WB)

Obama at the UN said:

a viable, independent Palestinian state with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967, and realizes the potential of the Palestinian people

 


Bush said something similar. The contiguous part was specifically concerning the West Bank and was seperate for what was expected for the STATE. The state merely had to have a meaningful connection between Gaza and the West bank.

It's a small but significant change. IMHO

Posted by: Rocks at May 19, 2011 10:37 AM (th0op)

261

So.

Why.

Bother.


It's Obama's way of saying "Look over there, not over here!"

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 19, 2011 10:37 AM (u7MVd)

262

Been thinking about this for awhile.... so... may I suggest the Romeo13 doctrine for Economic Aid?

To get American Foreign aid, you must, in your Constitution, enshrine Freedom of Speech, Property Rights, AND FREEDOM OF RELIGION... if you do have those three? No Soup for you....

We should NOT be trying to spread Democracy... we should be spreading Freedoms guarenteed by a Republic.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 19, 2011 10:39 AM (NtXW4)

263 My fellow Amerikans, ask not what Palis can do for us, but rather ask what we can do for the Palis.

Posted by: BHO The Great at May 19, 2011 10:41 AM (6yyVB)

264 Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 19, 2011 02:37 PM (G/MYk) I NEVER said the Arabs accepted anything. As a matter of fact and the best thing Israel has going for it, is that the Arabs always end up saying no to any compromise. All I did was explain what is meant by contiguous and what the proposal ( basically an American proposal ion the Clinton Admin ) was.

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 19, 2011 10:42 AM (i6RpT)

265 may I suggest the Romeo13 doctrine for Economic Aid? Wish we could earn some foreign aid in this country...

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2011 10:43 AM (FcR7P)

266 Wish we could earn some foreign aid in this country...

Posted by: t-bird at May 19, 2011 02:43 PM (FcR7P)

As soon as we get rid of the Xtianist theocracy, maybe Obama will help us out.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 19, 2011 10:46 AM (1fanL)

267 Holy shit. Yahoo's take on Barry's speech would put PMSNBC to shame with its failing over itself praise for Dear Leader

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2011 10:46 AM (1Jaio)

268 a highway that has some tunnels


We love tunnels.

Posted by: Ham-ass at May 19, 2011 10:48 AM (ieMxB)

269 In all of the past Israeli-Palestinians negotiations they have had land swaps on the table and all past Israeli Gov have talked about it

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 19, 2011 02:21 PM (i6RpT)


Yes, it has. But the swaps concerned Israel giving up settlements in the West Bank and the Gaza strip. Not land within Israel's 1967 border. There would be other concessions from Israel, such as the highway. Which would never be part of sovereign Palestinian state as Obama suggests.

Posted by: Rocks at May 19, 2011 10:49 AM (th0op)

270 And toward the end of the hour-long address, he cautioned that "the dream of a Jewish and democratic state cannot be fulfilled with permanent occupation."

Uhm.  What do they have now, again?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 19, 2011 10:50 AM (1fanL)

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 19, 2011 10:51 AM (CLYmB)

272

113

I think Israel should go back to its 2000 B.C. borders Posted by: Ben at May 19, 2011 01:50 PM (wuv1c)

We'll be fighting the Nephilim sooner or later anyway.

Posted by: Chuck Missler at May 19, 2011 10:51 AM (nBE5A)

273 While we're at it, we should split up New York City.

Ja, goot idea! Mit tulips!

Posted by: Knickerbocker Zombie Horde at May 19, 2011 10:52 AM (XyjRQ)

274 The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state.

That is what Obama said. Sovereign AND contiguous, that is a new position. The US has never insisted that the entire state of Palestine be both contiguous and under their complete control. To do so would cut Israel in half .

Posted by: Rocks at May 19, 2011 10:53 AM (th0op)

275 I always thought the Roadmap plan was going to treat Gaza like West Berlin.

Posted by: polynikes at May 19, 2011 10:58 AM (T8iAI)

276 That is what Obama said. Sovereign AND contiguous, that is a new position. The US has never insisted that the entire state of Palestine be both contiguous and under their complete control. To do so would cut Israel in half .

Posted by: Rocks at May 19, 2011 02:53 PM (th0op)

 

That's why I'm saying Barry wants to go back to the 1947 borders. The original UN 1947 borders would accomplish that

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2011 11:01 AM (1Jaio)

277

Oh please. You all (excepting "curious" and the roaming pack of clueless humanoids who seem to inform her 24/7) know enough about the recent history of israel to know that Geography is not the issue being argued. Existence is.

If Israel were to return to the 1967 borders, they would not be surrounded by disorganized hordes of fanatics and advantage-seeking regimes, but by modern nation-states with access to 21st Century weapons. As long as the Mideast states are still avowed enemies of Israel, why should Israel give up one square yard of territory? It would just be used as a launching pad.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 19, 2011 11:02 AM (Z05lF)

278 When is the US military going to have enough of this treasonous asshole?

Posted by: BM at May 19, 2011 11:03 AM (qMymA)

279 Calm down now BM. Just focus that energy on voting Obama out.

Posted by: cherry π at May 19, 2011 11:05 AM (+sBB4)

280

Prosperity requires tearing down walls that stand in the way of progress. The corruption of the elites who steal from people. The red tape that stops a business. The patronage that distributes wealth based of tribe or sect.

 

Let's deconstruct. What does this mean to a hard-core socialist?:

 

Prosperity requires tearing down walls that stand in the way of progress.

"The walls" = capitalism.

The corruption of the elites who steal from people.

"The elites" = Corporations, and rich people in general.

The red tape that stops a business.

Probably just a symptom of "the corruption of the elites"

The patronage that distributes wealth based of tribe or sect.

Instead of redistributing wealth based on "need".

 

It's less shocking after you translate it.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 19, 2011 11:05 AM (F56VB)

281 54 This speech was for two things only.

1.  Dog whistle for terrorists to attack unitedly against Israel.  Don't worry we won't stand in the way.

2. Whatever goes wrong, its not my fault.

That's it and that's that.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 19, 2011 01:37 PM (IXLvN)


Only RethugliKKKans use dog whistles!!!

Posted by: Chris Matthews at May 19, 2011 11:07 AM (BP6Z1)

282 Nostradamus said that a man in a turban would hasten Armageddon. . .

Not sure to whom is was referring?

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at May 19, 2011 11:07 AM (FAyWo)

283

288 When is the US military going to have enough of this treasonous asshole?

I don't know how the military deals with having the last two Dem Presidents. They sign up thinking they're going to serve their country, and they find themselves putting their lives on the line for the sake of foreigners who aren't even our allies, under the command of other foreigners.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 19, 2011 11:10 AM (F56VB)

284 I'd say the land that was captured during 1967 is the spoils of war.  Israel paid for it in the blood of the IDF.  If they can stall long enough, this loser will be gone and another President will take his place.  I think we should carve out some land in Jordan and give it to the Palestinians.

Posted by: CMouse at May 19, 2011 11:12 AM (O7DCr)

285

Fucking Jew-hating communist bastard son of a whore.

That's all I have to say about that.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 19, 2011 11:16 AM (L8Let)

286 280 Netanyahu's office responds to Obama's speech

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 19, 2011 02:51 PM (CLYmB)

reading the comments of Obamas supporters on that post, you can see the anti -semites attempt to  justify Their hatred for Israels attempts to survive.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2011 11:16 AM (h+qn8)

287 @198 France wants Louisiana back

Posted by: Cherry π at May 19, 2011 02:07 PM (+sBB4)




How much do we have to pay them to take 'norlins back?????



Posted by: Mark E at May 19, 2011 11:21 AM (w5RwR)

288 Ed needs to get his huge fat ass over to Israel and see what they're up against.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 19, 2011 11:22 AM (L8Let)

289
@
202 Not to pick nits, but didn't Israel fire the first shot in the 6 Day War? In response to Arab aggression?

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 19, 2011 02:08 PM (LFiVW)



Israel fired the first shots ... after Egypt expelled the UN peacekeepers, moved their army into the DMZ created after the 1956 war, entered into an offensive alliance with Syria (who was shelling Israeli farms) and blockaded  Israel's ports.

Israel may have fired first, but it was in direct response to Egypt's acts of war.


Posted by: Mark E at May 19, 2011 11:25 AM (w5RwR)

290

Delaware needs to be contiguous to West Delaware: Delaware County in Ohio.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 19, 2011 02:26 PM (z1N6a)

 

And Delaware County PA! We declare the greater Delaware sales tax -free prosperity sphere! Of course with the politicians that we have here, they'll just fuck it up even if it was handed to them.....

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2011 11:27 AM (Gzv/o)

291 61 I know I'm older than most of those who post here, but can you honestly tell me that a substantial number of you have scant knowledge of how the state of Israel came to be and the history of its prior conflicts with the Arab states in the region? What in hell is taught in school anymore?

Posted by: ya2daup at May 19, 2011 01:39 PM (FcKXR)


LOL.  Are you serious?  Teach contemporary history of the Middle East?!?  In US public schools?!?  They're too busy dispensing condoms and ADHD drugs sedatives boy antidotes, teaching myths like Malcolm X is a historical figure on par with Lincoln and Edison and that teachers' unions actually give a f*** to bother with anything so retrograde as actual history.

Posted by: Mr. Maddow at May 19, 2011 11:29 AM (Xv7f/)

292 The land swap and return to 1967 borders has been proposed by individuals in the US government before, but even if that is smart policy (which is debatable), why give it up in advance?  You can call it US policy to the extent that was the carrot being held out in exchange for supposedly serious concessions by the Palestinians, but giving that up as the starting point for negotiations is inexplicable.  Its a crayons and finger-painting level of foreign policy sophistication.

Posted by: Dave R. at May 19, 2011 11:32 AM (mNzyJ)

293 Obama 2012 campaign internal polling must be indicating the president will not see a second term. I don't see how the largely Israel-supporting American Jews would continue to offer their support. That would be a pretty big crack in his already shaky liberal base. If that's the case, why not go out in a liberal blaze of glory....torch Israel and the US. Kind of like what Saddam did to Kuwait when he retreated. At least the hard left might still vote for him.

Posted by: BigDaddy1964 at May 19, 2011 11:34 AM (nO0Br)

294

The fucking Palis don't want land for peace; they want a Judenrein Israel that they can plunder and loot, like they did to the nice, well-maintained settlements in Gaza that Israel handed over to them.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 19, 2011 11:35 AM (L8Let)

295 More mush from the wimp.

Posted by: Brown Line at May 19, 2011 11:37 AM (VrNoa)

296 279 And toward the end of the hour-long address, Obama cautioned that: "the dream of a Jewish and democratic state cannot be fulfilled with permanent occupation."


Uh ... why not and sez who?   Ask the Scots in Glasgow or the Iroquois in New York what they think about that claim.

Obama's speech writers have a way of having him make sweeping, grand, pompous conclusions that can't stand up to even the tiniest effort at analysis.


Posted by: Ugly stick at May 19, 2011 11:40 AM (Xv7f/)

297 Well I guess I've learned that if you want something in life,  you need to strap some bombs to your kids and blow them up to get it.

Posted by: Dang at May 19, 2011 11:43 AM (TXKVh)

298 Michigan needs to be a contiguous state.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 19, 2011 11:50 AM (GTbGH)

299

Quite a few Jews are New York-pushy, think the world revolves around them, that they're God's gift to mankind and better, smarter and craftier than the goys. I'm for substantially reducing US foreign aid to Hollywood East.  If you want to fund Israel, TexasJew, go have a bagel sale Saturday at your temple.

Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2011 11:54 AM (49LlK)

300 The "67 Borders" are in actual fact the 1949 armistice lines when the fighting stopped between Israel and the Arabs; they never were formal state borders. As for "permanent occupation" then Obama should get the international resolutions of San Remo and Sevres rescinded along with UNSC res 242.

Posted by: Cynic at May 19, 2011 11:56 AM (d0v0p)

301 Jim, hey stick it in your ignorant ,ear, bastid.

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2011 11:56 AM (h+qn8)

302 Clean-up on isle 312. Quickly, please!

Posted by: BigDaddy1964 at May 19, 2011 11:57 AM (nO0Br)

303 If Ace and you can't stand dissenting comments, go ahead and ban me.  It'll just show what cowards you are.

Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2011 11:58 AM (49LlK)

304 Obama cautioned that: "the dream of a Jewish and democratic state cannot be fulfilled with permanent occupation."




Sounds rather odd coming from someone born in Hawaii with his parents. Perhaps Oahu was part of Kenya before the American annexation...

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 19, 2011 11:58 AM (M8E6y)

305

putz

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2011 12:00 PM (h+qn8)

306 If I had this blog, I'd Charles Johnson your ass.

Posted by: kansas at May 19, 2011 12:22 PM (VXVJ/)

307  If you want to fund Israel, TexasJew, go have a bagel sale Saturday at your temple.

Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2011 03:54 PM (49LlK)

Come to a meetup.

I'll be glad to liberate your teeth.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 19, 2011 12:26 PM (L8Let)

308 Right, TexasJew.  So you want to punch the crap out of anyone who disagrees with you and you think you're entitled to do that?  Seems to me you just proved that you're one of the Jews I wrote about.  (And note that I didn't say "all" or "most" Jews).

Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2011 12:28 PM (49LlK)

309 Imagine Fox News being wrong. Your post is idiotic. You really shouldn't blog about things if you DONT HAVE A FRIGGIN' CLUE what you are talking about. This is a restatement of US policy for the last 12 years. And for that matter, they should go back to 1967 borders or something close to it. Where the hell else are you going to put Palestine?

Posted by: Realist at May 19, 2011 12:29 PM (gY1VR)

310 Where the hell else are you going to put Palestine?

Posted by: Realist at May 19, 2011 04:29 PM (gY1VR)


Well here's a clue for you. Not in any part of Jerusalem and not in any part connecting the West bank and Gaza which is under Palestine's sole control.

Posted by: Rocks at May 19, 2011 12:32 PM (th0op)

311 All you idiots need to understand simple demographics. With current borders you either have a Jewish totalitarian state in perpetuity or a non-jewish democratic state. You can build as many settlements as you want. You cannot outbreed your neighbors. Unless you policy is Palestinian genocide, which I suppose is one way of dealing with the problem however reprehensible, you are going to have to accept some kind of two state solution based roughly on the 1967 borders. If you disagree, what is your plan? Obama haters need not respond.

Posted by: Realist at May 19, 2011 12:34 PM (gY1VR)

312 So, it seems Rocks' answer is two split areas, with little ability to travel between them. A concentration camp in other words. How exactly do you plan to maintain that in perpetuity?

Posted by: Realist at May 19, 2011 12:35 PM (gY1VR)

313 I want to punch you too, and I'm definitely not a Jew.  Fuck off you bigotted troll.

Posted by: buzzion at May 19, 2011 12:36 PM (oVQFe)

314 It'll just show what cowards you are.

Hahahahaha.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 19, 2011 12:38 PM (GTbGH)

315 A concentration camp in other words.

With a Mediterranean resort.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 19, 2011 12:39 PM (GTbGH)

316

Posted by: Realist

 

Nice selective use of the term genocide. Your terrorist friends are still on records as advocating genocide. But such details get in the way of the rant.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2011 12:40 PM (Gzv/o)

317

two split areas, with little ability to travel between them. A concentration camp in other words

Yeah...With a shopping mall, as all concentration camps have. There's one in the neverending nightmare that is Gaza.

 

Egad you are stupid.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2011 12:42 PM (Gzv/o)

318 Abbas getting ready to thank Obama...

“President Abbas affirms his appreciation for President Obama’s declaration regarding people’s right to self-determination, freedom and dignity, as well as ensuring freedom of worship,” Erekat added. “The Palestinians need more than any other people such issues to get rid of occupation.”

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2011 12:42 PM (Y1DZt)

319 Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2011 03:54 PM (49LlK)

We Jews will piss on your grave, you retarded nazi. We have outlived all who hate us, and we will certainly outlive you.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 19, 2011 12:42 PM (LH6ir)

320

Quite a few Jews are New York-pushy, think the world revolves around them, that they're God's gift to mankind and better, smarter and craftier than the goys. I'm for substantially reducing US foreign aid to Hollywood East. 

Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2011 03:54 PM (49LlK)

 

Interesting choice of words, douchenozzle.  

 

Posted by: garrett at May 19, 2011 12:43 PM (FN2Kk)

321 If Ace and you can't stand dissenting comments, go ahead and ban me.  It'll just show what cowards you are.

Is there anyone here who won't be able to live with the loss?

Posted by: Clueless at May 19, 2011 12:43 PM (piMMO)

322 Posted by: TexasJew at May 19, 2011 04:26 PM (L8Let)

Coin flip for the first punch?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 19, 2011 12:43 PM (LH6ir)

323 Posted by: Realist at May 19, 2011 04:34 PM (gY1VR)

I see nazis come in pairs.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 19, 2011 12:44 PM (LH6ir)

324 President Abbas affirms his appreciation for President ObamaÂ’s declaration regarding peopleÂ’s right to self-determination, freedom and dignity, as well as ensuring freedom of worship

The Copts and Kurds wept.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 19, 2011 12:46 PM (GTbGH)

325 Another Pali spokesman in my link is also looking for a final solution to the imperialist problem, Reamalist, just like you and the other Kostards.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2011 12:47 PM (Y1DZt)

326 So did the two champions of justice scurry off so soon? Apparantly they're of the same caliber of vermin that beats in the heads of kids on rocks and blows up pizza parlors in the name of peace and love.  And staging rockets amidst houses; mustn't forget that example of high-density zoning.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2011 12:47 PM (Gzv/o)

327 I see nazis come in pairs.
When they're using the Reich around move at least.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2011 12:48 PM (Y1DZt)

328 In before the nazis..............ah, shit.

Posted by: Soona at May 19, 2011 12:48 PM (V0K6Q)

329 Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2011 04:48 PM (Y1DZt)

That's pretty awful...but in a good way!

I wonder where the big tough wannabe camp guards went?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 19, 2011 12:49 PM (LH6ir)

330 so Kos kids or Ron Paul supporters ?

Posted by: willow at May 19, 2011 12:51 PM (h+qn8)

331 Or are they Illinois Nazis? I hate Illinois Nazis.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 19, 2011 12:53 PM (Y1DZt)

332 So, it seems Rocks' answer is two split areas, with little ability to travel between them. A concentration camp in other words. How exactly do you plan to maintain that in perpetuity?

Posted by: Realist at May 19, 2011 04:35 PM (gY1VR)


They can use a highway under Israel's control or create 2 Palestinian states.

Posted by: Rocks at May 19, 2011 12:55 PM (th0op)

333

Right.  Because anyone who doesn't totally fawn over Israel and want to spend at least the current amount of foreign aid (if not more) on Israel must be an anti-Semite, a terrorist and a Nazi, Blue Hen, TexasJew and CharlieBrown'sdildo. 

And, garrett, my statement is true in my experience. 

Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2011 01:00 PM (49LlK)

334

A concentration camp in other words. How exactly do you plan to maintain that in perpetuity?

Posted by: Realist

Did anyone else notice that it's fashionable to talk about so-called occupations and concentration camps when there's a chance to smear Israel, but the dreamy existence of 'palestinians' in Jordan doesn't merit so much as a belch?

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2011 01:01 PM (Gzv/o)

335

Because anyone who doesn't totally fawn over Israel

 

So making references to concentration camps and occupations is supposedly the rational, sane, dispassionate discourse to which we morons must aspire? As is ignoring the charter of Hamas, or heaving AP rockets into civilians areas. To point out things is "fawning".

 

If so, then just call me bambi you terrorist loving vermin.

Posted by: Blue Hen at May 19, 2011 01:04 PM (Gzv/o)

336 Hey Jim,

If you have time to slap your daddy's dick out of your ass and actually do some research on something other than your masturbatory fantasies about concentration camps and killing Jews, you will find that you have an insufficient grasp of the facts.

But I still would be happy to knock your teeth out.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 19, 2011 01:07 PM (LH6ir)

337 I doubt the existence of "Palestinians" anyway.  I see Jordanians, Egyptians, and Bedouins.  When was there a nation of Palestine?  Who were it's native rulers? 

Posted by: toby928™ at May 19, 2011 01:11 PM (GTbGH)

338 Aren't Jim and Realist tired of being spanked over on Weasel Zippers?  We play even rougher here, boys.

Posted by: not the droid you seek at May 19, 2011 01:13 PM (aI+Fw)

339 350 I doubt the existence of "Palestinians" anyway.  I see Jordanians, Egyptians, and Bedouins.  When was there a nation of Palestine?  Who were it's native rulers? 

Posted by: toby928™ at May 19, 2011 05:11 PM (GTbGH)

There is no such thing as a Palestinians as an ethnic group.  The only reason it got the name Palestine is because the Jews pissed off the Emperor of Rome so much that not only did he scatter them he renamed the region Palestine.

Posted by: buzzion at May 19, 2011 01:18 PM (oVQFe)

340 Don't know if this has been addressed up thread or not but what is new about this is that the demands on Israel are to return to the '67 borders without preconditions. In the past, the return to those borders were to be reciprocated by the arab countries acknowledgment of Israel's right to exist and they were not to make war on them anymore.

Posted by: Bill R. at May 19, 2011 01:32 PM (EhlQq)

341 Hey, CharlieBrown'sdildo and Blue Hen, point out where I talked about concentration camps and killing Jews.

Posted by: Jim at May 19, 2011 01:51 PM (49LlK)

342 You're not the only antisemitic bigotted douchebag commenting you antisemitic bigotted douchebag.

Posted by: buzzion at May 19, 2011 01:53 PM (oVQFe)

343 Is there anyone here who won't be able to live with the loss?

Well the lack of comedy is driving me to the next thread.

Posted by: Dave at May 19, 2011 02:00 PM (WRhh3)

344 Ron Paul!

Posted by: toby928™ at May 19, 2011 02:03 PM (GTbGH)

345 Jim and realist must have been too fucking ignorant for Stormfront. And that is pitiful.

Posted by: NotAMolly at May 19, 2011 02:42 PM (ADJFU)

346

Don Surber offers the following on Duh Once's speech:  President Obama reverses the policy of Harry Truman, Ike Eisenhower, Jack Kennedy, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Jerry Ford, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton and George W. Bush.

Such a foolish, foolish man Barack Obama is.

America has stood by Israel for the first 63 years of its existence.

Now we have a president who sides with the Muslim terrorists of Palestine — who want to wipe out Israel completely.

I cannot decide whether Barack Obama is an idiot or if he is an anti-Semite like his religious mentor, Jeremiah Wright.

Posted by: RushBabe at May 19, 2011 03:03 PM (Ew27I)

347 "...I cannot decide whether Barack Obama is an idiot or if he is an anti-Semite like his religious mentor, Jeremiah Wright...."

No decision to make.  He's both.

Posted by: H. Clinton at May 19, 2011 04:55 PM (u+8qs)

348

The speech detailed what has been the US policy towards an middle east peace agreement for decades. Most of these comments are completely unhinged. An uninformed, close minded bunch of rednecks.

 

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