1 First commenter! Woohoo!

2 Spike the football!

3 Unexpectedly...

4 All recessions are a financial crisis for someone.

And didn't we have a Savings & Loan crisis that didn't result in a recession?

5

On the plus side, Obama reads the shit out of a TelePrompTer at 8.8% increase over most presidents in a post-recession economy.

 

And Sheriff Joe....well....okay, I got nuthin'.

6 hey, remember alien3 where one of the guards was nicknamed 88? Hmm...I think we can turn ".8" into a nickname for prince telepromtus.

7 RECOVERY SUMMER!!

8 Shocking!

9 (88, for his IQ)

10 Who are the rejects (all 34%) of them that think the economy is better than when he took office?!

Oh right. You and I are paying for their food, housing, etc etc every month.

11 How about a simple number, Those that have full time employment and those who want it and don't? I am so sick of the bullshit lingo/numbers game that are just lies.

12 Way O/T, but can someone put a bag over that pic of Helen Thomas in the headlines. It's frightening me.

13

Where's the guy who doesn't read the comments but notes that The JEF is a stuttering CF of failure?

14 Mathematically, he's more like a  0.08 based on the employment and income numbers quoted.

15 That 34% are government employees who now earn 6 figures, retire at 45, for demanding jobs as angry birds players.

16 12 SEAL tem 6 will not post here until that picture is gone.

17 On the plus side, Obama reads the shit out of a TelePrompTer at 8.8% increase over most presidents in a post-recession economy.

And that's why he's the Teleprompter Jesus.

18 One of my fraternity brothers got a .8 one semester. He is more qualified than this dipshit.

19

.8 is like 2 zerOs stacked on top of each other 0 + 0 = 0

That is all

20 12 yeah good luck with that.

Oh and O/T: State Dep't taking a cue from Dear Leader - keeping priorities in check!

Now personally I'm surprised. I didn't think that Hillary cared too much for the disco stick.

21

Dear Leader is losing the argument and he knows it.  What we need to remember, though, is that he has the temperment of a 3year-old.

22 I know in my business that I now spend the majority of my time doing useless govt. paperwork. This lowers my profit. I only pay taxes on my profit. I will not hire anyone. Enjoy my lower tax payments assholes.

23 But presidential cigarette-smoking is up an unprecedented 88% during this administration!

24 This follows nicely with with your hero's low at the end of Act II when the real challenge is about to be faced as the hero's resolve is steeled by the challenge now clearly before him. Look for any growth in the next 1.5 years to be spun into a nascent victory requiring 4 more years of Obama to fully realize. He's turned around the Republican mess, now he needs 4 more years to make real progress a reality. That's how they will sell it.

25 I am second to none in my admiration for the constant teleprompter jokes, but I think that those jokes overshadow the fact that Obama is so out of touch and intellectually lazy that he doesn't understand what he is reading and doesn't double-check the text before his presentations.

We can't let anything go, not even the underlying truth of our jokes. 

26 Obama is the 2 (cuz he's a steamy pile of shit).

27 All recessions require an increase in business and consumer confidence in order to provide a recovery.

Obama's policies inspire no confidence. Businesses are nervous to invest with EPA regulations, ObamaCare mandates, and incoherent plans about tax rates. Consumers see the high unemployment rates, slow growth, and business malaise and are just waiting for a 'double-dip'.

Even other Democratic Presidents who see the economy through a recession have presided over reasonable rates of growth as the recession ended. This should be used to show how radical and inappropriate Obama's policies have been. He is completely out of the mainstream of US economic policy.

28 >>>This follows nicely with with your hero's low at the end of Act II when the real challenge is about to be faced as the hero's resolve is steeled by the challenge now clearly before him. Look for any growth in the next 1.5 years to be spun into a nascent victory requiring 4 more years of Obama to fully realize But of course! Of course this was always the plan, but now they have a dramatic arc to contextualize these incredible victories.

29 Zero point eight.  It's more than a little below par, Mr. Obama. IT STINKS! It's the lowest on campus. It's the lowest in Faber history!

30 Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 27, 2011 06:05 PM (0q2P7)

Unfortunately for the unemployed our economy may very well be heading into a stagnant or receding phase. That sucks in the short term for America, but it may just guarantee Obama's defeat in 2012.

I hate that there is a silver lining to more Americans losing their jobs or unable to find work.

31 The obamacare kid with asthma blew a .08 on the breathalizer.

32

So where is the normal snapback now? Even $4 trillion in deficits since 2009 and nearly $2 trillion of asset purchases by the Fed haven't pulled the economy from its funk.

To recap, we've spend nearly 4 trillion in dollars for a negligible effect.  Good job there, guys,  focusing like a laser on the economy! 

33
"Unchartered Depths"? Unless that's a pun, I believe it should be "Uncharted Depths."

34 Oh I see.  This survey is skewed.  It only covers 50 states.

35 doesn't matter, Obama will be re-elected, Rasmussen has him at 48% approval even w/ all these bad numbers and we'll nominate a kook like Bachmann or a bore like Romney. i'm really worried we're gonna lose the House, and the Dems look to be having a wave year!

36 ALL SIGNS POINT TO YES

37 OT: Herman Cain on Hewiit right now if anyone cares...

38 Great Depression 2.0. Only this time around, our government has contrived to buy its own debt. So, we're basically printing money right now. That's good, right? right?

39 35 doesn't matter, Obama will be re-elected, Rasmussen has him at 48% approval even w/ all these bad numbers and we'll nominate a kook like Bachmann or a bore like Romney. i'm really worried we're gonna lose the House, and the Dems look to be having a wave year! Posted by: Greg (I'm On You Guys Side, I SWEAR) at June 27, 2011 06:09 PM

That's why you're telling them that I'm the only chance they've got

40

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 27, 2011 06:08 PM (LH6ir)

I've come to find myself rooting for a bad economy and more lost jobs, I know it sounds horrible, but Obama is graded on a curve and only bad news helps defeat him.

41 The guy uses an autopen.

Honestly, does anything else even need to be said?

42

Posted by: Jon That Dog Won't Huntsman at June 27, 2011 06:11 PM (so1xa)

wait, I missed that. Greg popped up supporting Huntsman?

43 Um, no, we're not rooting against the economy. We predicted that repeating the policies of the great depression would cause at best a really bad recession. But instead, we've spent untold trillions of dollars to pay for lazy union thugs to retire and double dip in their careers as solitaire and angry birds enthusiasts. Great Depression 2.0

44 Posted by: YRM at June 27, 2011 06:11 PM (3XDPM)

Awful, isn't it?

45 Because you have to put that car in "D" not "R" ?

God I hope my business can tough it out another two years...

46 0.8?  You're giving him a lot of leeway there chief.  Obama = zerO.

47 We have to say that Obama has failed without regard to the baseline unemployment number.

He could have choose to focus on economic growth, modernizing the tax system, and making government more transparent and efficient. He instead decided to pursue government programs and policies that extended the recession and made recovery anemic.

Obama isn't just failing; he has failed. He promised change and instead produced the worst recovery from a recession in the last 60 years.

48

wait, I missed that. Greg popped up supporting Huntsman?

Posted by: YRM at June 27, 2011 06:12 PM (3XDPM)

 

I thought, in his own way, he was supporting Dear Leader. 

49 Barky doesn't understand negative numbers.

But I'm really good at imaginary ones.  Like the gajillions of jobs that I've created or saved.

Don't nothing get more imaginary than that!

50

Um, no, we're not rooting against the economy. We predicted that repeating the policies of the great depression would cause at best a really bad recession.

and yet FDR was graded on a curve and was re-elected...3 times

51 The guy uses an autopen.

Honestly, does anything else even need to be said?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 27, 2011 06:12 PM

Autotune Obama?

52 You know what's missing from this picture? 

A primary challenge.

53 .8 was my blood alcohol level when I took Zachary for a ride in my Porsche last week.

54 yeah, I got jumped on at HotAir for pointing out the whole FDR got reelected thing. Anyway, we can all feel better knowing that the Feds are on top of the whole unregulated rabbit growing thing. So, at least there won't be a double dip bounce caused by an bursting of the rabbit bubble. How great it is to be fined $92,000 for selling some varmints on the side. I wonder why everyone isn't in business for themselves.

55 Neat, huerfano! You *just know* that he put that on his iPod. 

56 Look for any growth in the next 1.5 years to be spun into a nascent victory requiring 4 more years of Obama to fully realize

I wish I had your optimism.

57

Posted by: Soona at June 27, 2011 06:15 PM (nKIq0)

I have no clue when was it last the a-hole popped up. it's obv. he's a fake conservative, true blue blooded liberal, yet he really must think he can sell us his BS

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 27, 2011 06:13 PM (LH6ir)

his worst approvals (even amongst a GOP wave) is is the low 40s, a lot of people are expecting a Carter 79 bottom fall out that has his approvals in Bush 2nd term terriritory, I don't but it. the Dem base s fully behind him and independents are uncomfortable about the fact they disapprove of someone historic.

58 Hand me one of them Slurpees.  This bitch ain't goin' nowhere.

59

I've come to find myself rooting for a bad economy and more lost jobs, I know it sounds horrible, but Obama is graded on a curve and only bad news helps defeat him.

Posted by: YRM at June 27, 2011 06:11 PM (3XDPM)

Fuck you...seriously, fuck you up the the fucking ass with a fucking rusty chainsaw, you cocksucker

60 .8 was my blood alcohol level when I took Zachary for a ride in my Porsche last week.

Hell, that's been my average BAC since January 20, 2009.

61 But think how low GDP growth would be WITHOUT Captain Bullshit's hand on the tiller.

62

Posted by: joeindc44 at June 27, 2011 06:17 PM (QxSug)

I wasn't meaning to say we're doomed and Obama is going to get re-elected, in fact I can write an article on why Obama will not have the FDR luck that he had (short story: GOP set up better then in the FDR days). but there is precedent for a guy getting a benefit of a doubt when he doesn't deserve it. for what it's worth, History points to Obama being a 1 termer.

63 55 You know what's missing from this picture? A primary challenge. Posted by: AmishDude at June 27, 2011 06:16 PM (T0NGe) Good luck with that. We'll leave you alone. We Promise.

64

Posted by: beedubya at June 27, 2011 06:19 PM (AnTyA)

why thank you

65 .8?  B+, baby!

Stocks Snap Losing Run

/Look for these type of nominal, the Good Days have Returned, stories to dominate the news cycle the next few months, as per Ace's The Hero Has Returned movie turn. 

66 I get the same payout when I leave after one term as I do after two, right?

Well, then why the fuck would I want to do a second term???

67 This 0.8 is being reported by the "Joint Economic Committee"?  What is that, Ron Paul's pot smoking staff?

68 "Stocks Snap Losing Run"

Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't there a few up days on the ride from Obama's election down to 7000 (or thereabouts)?

69 Unfortunately for the unemployed our economy may very well be heading into a stagnant or receding phase.

Unfortunately or fortunately the American economy is incredibility hard to kill. Even those doing their darnedest to burn it down couldn't keep it from modest 2% gains over the long run. If the economy starts a reliable growth at 2% they will sell it as RECOVERY!!11eleventy!! But they will also sell a barely moving 2% growth  and long term painfully high unemployment as "responsible, sustainable recovery" not so fast and strong as to "Create another bubble" but move the country toward "prosperity" in a "Thoughtful, smart, and deliberate manner"

70 Here's the thing: I think he wants a primary challenger.  Why?  Because, by far, Obama is the most leftward guy in the race.  Carter actually benefited by Teddy's little adventure because he was in the center compared to Reagan and the Oldsmobile Kid.

Obama even ran as a centrist, after a fashion.  He ran to the right of John McCain on a number of issues including taxes.

71 Posted by: YRM at June 27, 2011 06:20 PM (3XDPM)

8+ months for me and counting  you little fucking cunt.

kmow what I did this weekend, you little twat?? My Bil lost his business almost two years ago was depending on his wife's salary to keep them and their four kids above water. She lost her job in banking earlier this year. I helped them move from a 4000 sq ft house that he built himself to an 800 sq ft condo they can now barely afford.

seriously motherfucker?? Your bitch ass would get a fucking beat down

72

btw just to throw it out there, a FOX blogger who predicted Obama will be prez back in 06 and then said he'd def. win if McCain was the nominee is now predicting Perry (if he runs) will be our next prez and will beat Obama. bold prediction. but he has a good track record.

73 In a report entitled "Unchartered Depths," the Committee finds that "employment is now 5.0% below what it was at the start of the recession, 38 months ago.

Anyone who believes any numbers from this administrator is a damn fool. If you count numbers the way they used to real unemployment is at 20% and inflation is > 10%.

We ARE in Great Depression II. And Obummer is doing FDR's failure X 2.

74
It's the economy, stupid!

Ummm...duh? Hannity played a mashup of the Most Interesting Man in the Word's comments. It would be funny, if it weren't sad.

And Bachman is a "flake" and Palin "stupid"??

75

Posted by: beedubya at June 27, 2011 06:26 PM (AnTyA)

I was unemployed for 2 fucking years and was already rooting for bad news because of all the bs grade curving I saw on Obama. it wasn't until last week I got back to work and mostly thanks to a FL economic recovery under Rick Scott. sue me.

76 Now that he's relying on his gut instincts, the green shoots will be starting forthwith. 

77

Posted by: Greg (I'm On You Guys Side, I SWEAR) at June 27, 2011 06:09 PM (3XDPM)

Garcon, your finest 55 gallon drum of Valu-Rite for that table.

And a straw.

78 Posted by: YRM at June 27, 2011 06:27 PM (3XDPM)

wow...so your rooting for more unemployment?? You're a fucking idiot twat

79 He instead decided to pursue government programs and policies that extended the recession and made recovery anemic that ensures that the commiecrats will remain in power forever.

I knew what ya meant.  The last thing on Zero's mind is the economy.

80 I will only stick it .8 of the way in.

81 Put me firmly in the "I hope the economy rebounds sooner rather than later" category.  Political consequences be damned.  Too many people are suffering. 

We need to win people over to conservatism on principle, not fear. 

82

Posted by: beedubya at June 27, 2011 06:28 PM (AnTyA)

i'm rooting for bad news that hurts Obama

83 Dear lefties:

This is what happens when government sucks the air, carpet, furnishings, paint, insulation, Aunt Hilda, electrical wiring, plumbing, framing, and the Dyson vacuum itself from the room.

A trillion and a half plus of borrowing per year, an out of control anti-capitalist regulatory establishment, and the chief executive leadership style known as "Golgafrichaminian"  will not allow this bleeding to stop.  I seem to recall saying this months ago.  The economy cannot self-correct when the controls are themselves are aflame.

84

Posted by: Y-not at June 27, 2011 06:29 PM (TFxd0)

4 more years of Obama and claiming he helped the economy, followed by Dems using his coattails to get back some to a lot of power, which is then followed w/ a GOP that gets scared and starts giving into demands of more spending to help Obama continue the recovery and suddenly the economy helping Obama doesn't look good.

85 Put it in H!

86

Posted by: Minuteman at June 27, 2011 06:31 PM (B4Wbw)

as I posted in areply to Y-not in comment #91 it's not just the idea of Obama getting re-elected it's the possible things to follow that will only hurt the country more. which includes the GOP losing political capital to get real change done.

87 I have been unemployed for 15 months and I am not rooting for more unemployment.  I see unemployment as the only logical outcome from what these socialists are doing to the economy. 

88 seriously motherfucker?? Your bitch ass would get a fucking beat down

Posted by: beedubya at June 27, 2011 06:26 PM (AnTyA)

 

Why don't you just calm it down a little?  YRM just offered an opinion.  No one here is going to 'get a f*cking beat down' just because you disagree with them.  Give it a rest....

89 Obama isn't just failing; he has failed. He promised change and instead produced the worst recovery from a recession in the last 60 years.

Posted by: Paper at June 27, 2011 06:15 PM (VoSja)

He promised change, but never intended on delivering positive change.

90 YRM,

There's no guarantee that bad news will hurt him.  In fact, there's every reason to believe that bad economic news -- excuse me, continuing bad economic news -- will push people further into the arms of big government. 

The Dems and their media shills talked the economy down leading up to the 2008 election.  The shit they've done since then shows me that their intention is to get more and more people on the government teat -- either through assistance programs or via make-work unionized SEIU jobs.  People who are really drowning will grab any life line, even authoritarianism.  I think we've seen that before in history. 

91 Posted by: beedubya at June 27, 2011 06:26 PM (AnTyA)

Try to understand the sentiment. It's frustration and anger and disgust all wrapped up in one.

I wish you and your BIL's family the best of luck, and I hope everything turns out well for all of you.

I mean that. No snark or sarcasm.

92 Political consequences be damned.  Too many people are suffering.

The economy only has about 1 good rebound left in it before our monetary clock runs out and a collapse in our currency predicates a total collapse of the economy. You are saying your fine risking total collapse later in order things get better soon?

93 ....and independents are uncomfortable about the fact they disapprove of someone historic.

And how does one know this?

94 He promised change, but never intended on delivering positive change. Posted by: KG at June 27, 2011 06:33 PM (uU5fM) I'm pretty sure Obama thinks what he's doing is positive by his definition, and by those that surround and influence him. Ideology forever! Any solution to get to their ideal is moral by definition.

95

they keep calling it a "recession", my uneducated, trailer-park-dwelling-ass calls it a Depression and furthermore, it's a Kenysian-induced depression that was instigated for one purpose - bring us to our knees so that Obama and his ObamaCare can save us all.

FDR knew...

 

96

I'll be the bold one here: The Vapid One's© defeat in 2012 will make Ronaldus Magnus' landslide look like an anthill.

We won't be fooled again.

Way O/T, but thanks to whoever posted the links about Agenda 21. I might post something on that over at my blog. That right there should be enough of a reason for whoever crushes the JEF to get us out of the UN permanently.

97

Posted by: Florence Hendersons Bedsheets at June 27, 2011 06:23 PM (IhHdM)

 

Interesting observation, but, you're forgetting a very important factor.  The resurgence of the USA is not what Dear Leader and his regime have as their mindset.  I'm convinced that their sole purpose was to tear down the US and the Constitution as we've known it, and replace it with a marxist model. 

Despite what anyone thinks about the general population of this nation, the one thing that one doesn't threaten, and that's the general feeling of freedom from government bondage and intrusion.  So many people that I know who voted for Barky have told me point blank that they'll never vote for him again.

As for the independents that everyone likes to tout, they've been flowing into the conservative ranks in droves since the first six months to a year after this shitwad president was sworn in.  

98 There hasn't been a recovery.  This hasn't been a recession.  It is a depression.  The only thing that has kept the zombie economy going is printed money from the fed and banks keeping their bad loans and mortgages "off" the books. 

99

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 27, 2011 06:35 PM (kOtPb)

look at the polls, Dubya was sunk to approvals in the 20s and 30s w/ indys giving him approvals in the 20s, here's Obama pulling a Dubya on steroids and he gets approvals in the 40s by them, too many of them are giving him a benefit of a doubt. plus one little good thing and suddenly they flock back to him and his approvals go up, then the economy hits them back to reality and they have to remember why they disapproved of him to begin with.

100 Seems folks like beedubya think nothing bad ever happens. The sooner folks start realizing what an abomination Teh Won is, the sooner stories like his will be fewer and farther between.
Don't kill the fucking messenger.
Oh, and it's idiots who "needed" 4000 square foot homes than got us in this fucking mass.

101 I just hope that Obama's next big idea isn't some sort of public works project like FDR's. I don't think America can handle the giant flushing of cash down the national crap-hole that that would be. Imagine a works project with 5,000,000 no show union thugs earning $50/hr.

102 I think the dumb SOB actually thought paying off his cronies and the least productive would stimulate the economy, because like all liberals, he believes in magic.

103 This is what happens when you elect Socialists.

104 @109 or mess

105 You are saying your fine risking total collapse later in order things get better soon?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 27, 2011 06:34 PM (0q2P7)

---

?

No.  I am saying the opposite.

I want people to have jobs, real jobs (not make-work Obama jobs).  I want companies to expand and grow.  I want the economy to recover.  I want that all to happen as fast as it can because people are really suffering and the whole world is in jeopardy when the US is weakened the way we are right now. 

I do not hope that the economy continues to falter and that unemployment continues to rise just out of the -- I think, misguided -- hope that it will guarantee Obama's defeat. 

Perry can beat Obama, even if the economy starts to pick up. 

106 Sometimes I get the impression that Obama is a less-than effective president.

107 Recoveryless Recovery...

Un
Precedent
Ed...

108 Oh, and it's idiots who "needed" 4000 square foot homes than got us in this fucking mass.

Posted by: Tom at June 27, 2011 06:37 PM (nQR0p)

And a hearty "fuck you" to you!

You have no idea of the circumstances, and obviously can't even read. The guy has four kids. How large a house would you permit him to have in your world?

109 The Dems and their media shills talked the economy down leading up to the 2008 election.

They did it in 1992, too.  Everybody's neighbor was hurting, but very few actually were.  Lots of "I'm doing well, but I'm worried about my neighbor" stories back then.

Of course, what we "root for" in this blog is meaningless.  Nobody here is keeping anybody from working, no matter what they do. We're all spectators here.

Very good economic news will be out of Obama's reach.  With a GOP House, very bad economic news won't happen either.  They've shown that they aren't going to let him destroy the economy, even if it would appear to benefit Republicans in the short term.

It'll basically be ebbs and flows of more of the same except that inflation will creep up.  There are a lot of economic aspects: Unemployment, inflation, energy prices specifically, the stock market, economic growth.  None of those will improve greatly and I think inflation and the stock market have been overperforming.

A nominated Republican candidate who stays on message attacking Obama's record will weaken him considerably more than he is today.  He's buoyed by the media right now. The preference cascade hasn't started, nobody dares criticize the man in public, even though very few praise him anymore.

110 Oh, and it's idiots who "needed" 4000 square foot homes than got us in this fucking mass.

Posted by: Tom at June 27, 2011 06:37 PM (nQR0p)

----

That's bullshit.

You know nothing about the BIL's situation, except that they both lost their jobs and they have four kids. 

111

You have no idea of the circumstances, and obviously can't even read. The guy has four kids. How large a house would you permit him to have in your world?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 27, 2011 06:40 PM (LH6ir)

One he could afford?

112

Oh, and it's idiots who "needed" 4000 square foot homes than got us in this fucking mass.

Excuse me, but why shouldn't someone have as much house as they want and can afford?

113

One he could afford?

Posted by: Tom at June 27, 2011 06:42 PM (nQR0p)

Once again, because you are slow; you have no idea of the circumstances.

114 According to the National Association of Home Builders, the average home size in the United States was 2,700 square feet in 2009, up from 1,400 square feet in 1970.

115 Oh, and it's idiots who "needed" 4000 square foot homes than got us in this fucking mass.

Posted by: Tom at June 27, 2011 06:37 PM (nQR0p)

Fuck you. He took in my SiL and two kids and had two of their own....

...and his parents and her mother lived with them.

He built it. He didn't contract it out. He built it himself. He didn't owe a fucking dime on the house nor the 7 acres it sat on.

He lost his business because he got fucked when those who owed him money went belly up.

his house had nothing to do with the fuckers who contributed to the economic mess.

...and wishing for more unemployment now is the fucking height of fucking idiocy

116

One he could afford?

Posted by: Tom at June 27, 2011 06:42 PM (nQR0p)

I could afford a million dollar house 4 years ago.  I am not working now.  You tell me how big my house should be.

117 One he could afford?

Really, fuck you with a rabid porcupine, you prick. 

118

here's my final reply to everyone mad at my viewpoint, look Obama has been graded ona  curve. he has scandals, ugly moments on TV, disapproval in all his policies, an image of a guy who can't fix the problems of the country, a opposition party that just recorded a Historic landslide, unpopular laws and wars, and many are comparing the economy now to Great Depression 2.0

YET Obama is at 48% approval in the always scary right Rasmussen today. His worst approval ratings have been in the low 40s, I think ONCE he hit 39. all the problems he faces would normally lead to approvals in the high 20s (Carter, Dubya's 2nd term). yes Gallup has him at 43% and that's good news, and I do believe he's beatable unlike others who claim he's unstoppable. BUT because he's graded on a curve, any one little bit of good news and indys will run back to him wanting to re-elect the Historic president.

now i'm young and i've got lots to learn still, but to see Bush have the approvals he did and then turn around and watch his sucessor be an even bigger failure and yet he's still in "can comeback and get re-elected" territory frustrates me. so yes I believe only bad news will beat Obama.

now I understand the hurt right now. I was unemmployed for 2 years and it wasn't until a State GOV got tough that I was able to get lucky enough to find a job recently. I empathize with those losing their jobs and know it sucks to be unemployed when you need work. but again I believe only bad news can save us from a man I believe to be one of the worst Presidents we ever had.

119

Excuse me, but why shouldn't someone have as much house as they want and can afford?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at June 27, 2011 06:44 PM (d0Tfm)

Apparently he couldn't afford it.

120 Fuck you. He took in my SiL and two kids and had two of their own....

Well, there's his problem.

Breeder. 

121 Boy the Fox panel sux tonight and they are about to talk about Bachmann so after stupiding the budget debate to death they will undoubtedly go after her.

122

Oh, and it's idiots who "needed" 4000 square foot homes than got us in this fucking mass.

you might wanna step back and think about your words before you throw something like that out

123 OT: hilarious kitten versus pit bull video:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/3k59e59

(Don't worry: safe for animal lovers!)

124 Oh, and it's idiots who "needed" 4000 square foot homes than got us in this fucking mass.

Uh, no.

It was a) liberal legislation that MANDATED relaxed borrowing to people who could not afford it, b) nitwits who loaned the money to risky borrowers, c) the segment of the financial genius sector of the economy that thought bundling pieces of shit securities was a good idea, and d) the borrowers themselves.  And I can't overlook e) a breathless media that acted as if a bubble was not in the works.

So get your finger out of one group's eyes and be a little more egalitarian in your blame game.

And, just to be clear--you don't get to decide what size house I need.

125

Posted by: Tom at June 27, 2011 06:45 PM (nQR0p)

Wait until you lose a job.  Not much can be afforded when your income drops to nothing.

126 OK, I revise my position.  I hope Tom loses his job.  I hope his wife, if any woman was dumb enough to marry him, divorces him and takes his last bean.  I hope he wakes up tomorrow and finds that someone has stolen his car.  I hope his dog dies. 

127 look at the polls, Dubya was sunk to approvals in the 20s and 30s w/ indys giving him approvals in the 20s, here's Obama pulling a Dubya on steroids and he gets approvals in the 40s by them, too many of them are giving him a benefit of a doubt. plus one little good thing and suddenly they flock back to him and his approvals go up, then the economy hits them back to reality and they have to remember why they disapproved of him to begin with.

W had to contend with a non-stop media slaughter, accounting for those indies lack of support into his 2nd and very wearisome term.  King Bozo is covered for 24/7 by his media trouser-lickers.  I think that has more to do with indies' back & forth approve/disapprove with him more so than any historical aspect at this point. 

128 And, just to be clear--you don't get to decide what size house I need.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 27, 2011 06:47 PM (7utQ2)

True, but I don't gotta feel bad when you lose it either.

129 Who is this Tom who offers us opinions as though we needed them?

130 Tom, I'd suggest you heed the first rule of holes....

131 haha, but all this drama is unnecessary, don't you know that Obama's laid out a path to financial sanity in 20 years.

132 Captains of industry play golf, Obama plays alot of golf, so he is clearly an economic genius.

133

"we will have a surplus by 2012 if we keep at our current budgetary plans"

- Dubya in his last SOTU

134 he's [Barky's] graded on a curve

It doesn't matter if you're at the bottom of the class.

Curve the grades, you're still at the bottom.

135

You have no idea of the circumstances, and obviously can't even read. The guy has four kids. How large a house would you permit him to have in your world?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 27, 2011 06:40 PM (LH6ir)

 

as big as he can actually afford, not as big as he wants to be able to afford.

we lived in a 1200 sq ft. shack when i was kid, all six of us, for years.

 

136

Apparently he couldn't afford it.

According to someone in the know, he could when he built it. Still, you seem rather smug, sorta like a lefty who thinks he should be the ultimate arbiter of everyone else's life.

You should try something called empathy. It's the mental excercise where you imagine yourself in someone else's position. It's not as easy as it looks.

137 True, but I don't gotta feel bad when you lose it either.

Let's make a deal there, Monty.  I'll take what's in the box Jake is holding and you can check worrying about me off your list?  M'kay?

Jackass.

138

Posted by: YRM at June 27, 2011 06:45 PM (3XDPM)

 

I'm not paying attention to polls anymore.  Time after time it's been shown that these polls are skewed toward democrat voters, sometimes rediculously.  Even with that, his numbers are slowly going down, not up.  It's still well over a year until the next election.  The momentum of this regime is still rolling in the direction of economic destruction and most everyone now knows it. 

139 Krauthammer: If Bachmann does good after Iowa and afterwards she will be up for the VP slot.

Why am I not surprised?

140 For poll-watchers, Jimmah was actually tied or leading in polls in Oct of 1980.  His numbers fell through a trap door in the week leading up to Election Day

I think if you look at Jimmah's 1979 approval numbers, you'll find him in the 40s

141

One he could afford?

Posted by: Tom at June 27, 2011 06:42 PM (nQR0p)

They both lost their jobs because of the JEF and Democratic policies.   A hell of a lot of people that could actually afford their homes have lost them, because of those same policies.  

Take your condescending bullshit and shove it.

142 we lived in a 1200 sq ft. shack when i was kid, all six of us, for years.

Good for you!!!

Forgive me for not wanting that for Mrs. Circa and Circa munchkins.

143

I could afford a million dollar house 4 years ago. I am not working now. You tell me how big my house should be.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 27, 2011 06:44 PM (yQWNf)

Smaller than mine.  Waaaaay smaller.

144

I would just correct one little thing, here.  Barky isn't graded on a curve.  If he were, he'd still fail, since he is dumber, more inept and more incompetent than everyone else.  His scores will always be low, whether looked at by raw numbers or compared to the scores of normal people around him.  Barky is one of those people who doesn't gain anything from being graded on a curve.  Barky is the guy who helps everyone else out by lowering the curve quite a bit, all by himself.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 27, 2011 06:50 PM (G/MYk)

Methinks Barky has almost completely killed affirmative action.

145 ASK AGAIN LATER

146 It hurts to see people getting shithammered by the economy when they've done NOTHING to deserve it. I wish there were some way to cushion or protect them, until conditions improve.  The 52% who voted for Obama I couldn't care less about.

  I know people in this position,and we kinda do help, as unobtrusively as possible.  Pride can be a killer,so you MUST be careful with the assistance, I'm sure y'all realize.

147 Posted by: Shoey at June 27, 2011 06:53 PM (jdOk/)

That certainly added to the conversation.

148 YRM roots for a bad economy and for longtime democrat and stupid Texas A&M Aggot Rick Perry. Brains.

149 I empathize with those losing their jobs and know it sucks to be unemployed when you need work. but again I believe only bad news can save us from a man I believe to be one of the worst Presidents we ever had.

Posted by: YRM at June 27, 2011 06:45 PM (3XDPM)

How many kids do you have to provide for?    Where did you live while you were out of a job?   How did you support yourself?

150

Posted by: Soona at June 27, 2011 06:54 PM (nKIq0)

very true but if you follow the track records, you'll find what polls to trust. I call Rasmussen scary right for a reason.

Posted by: kbdabear at June 27, 2011 06:54 PM (so1xa)

nope, Carter's bottom fell out in 79, as for the polls on the 80 election, you're pretty right there. one thing we can always remember is that people don't pay attention until the final weeks and thus that is when races tighten up or just get out of reach.

151 39 35 doesn't matter, Obama will be re-elected, Rasmussen has him at 48% approval even w/ all these bad numbers and we'll nominate a kook like Bachmann or a bore like Romney. i'm really worried we're gonna lose the House, and the Dems look to be having a wave year! Posted by: Greg (I'm On You Guys Side, I SWEAR) at June 27, 2011 06:09 PM

IT IS DECIDEDLY SO

152

Posted by: Steph at June 27, 2011 06:57 PM (AkdC5)

I was unemployed for 2 years and lived out of a suitcase for most of those years. that's all you need to know.

153

I think all this talk about hoping the unemployment picture gets better or worse is moot because there is no way the economy is going to recover in any way, shape, or form before the next election.

How can it? As Stacy McCain says, the fundamentals suck. Even if Obama were to have a miraculous conversion to conservatism and started implementing conservative policies right the hell now, it could be years before things settle down, particularly with the gnarly debt he's burdened us with.

And that's the rosy scenario. In reality, things are going to get worse, and even a Republican victory next year will take time to turn things around. A lot of time.

154 Texas A&M Aggot Rick Perry.

And then the college bigotry showed up and things became oh so much more rational and meaningful.

155

Posted by: PR at June 27, 2011 06:56 PM (9ET5H)

I never said I rooted for Perry, I mentioned an interesting article on Perry. right now i'm leaning towards Bachmann.

156 Bill Kristol: It was great for her (Michele Bachmann) that she got called a flake.
Charles Krauthammer: Chris (Wallace) got assaulted.

157 152 Krauthammer: If Bachmann does good after Iowa and afterwards she will be up for the VP slot.

Why am I not surprised?

Posted by: Vic at June 27, 2011 06:54 PM (M9Ie6)

I don't see the problem.  She's a House member who has not been in the leadership.  She ain't gonna win the primaries.  Ain't gonna.  No way.  Not gonna happen.

158 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 27, 2011 06:59 PM (7utQ2)

It's a lurker, or more probably a troll. Who gives a shit what it thinks?

159 Methinks Barky has almost completely killed affirmative action.

Not as long as he has the DOJ and the EEOC. If you are talking about public opinion, that was lost for AA and diversity decades ago.

The only thing that keeps it in place is chickenshit Republicans afraid to be called racist.

160

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 27, 2011 06:54 PM (G/MYk)

are you seriously that ticked off with Wallace? I thought it was a horribly worded question and he's apologized for it, I wish Bachmann would just end the drama and accept the apology.

161 Yeah, a four thousand square foot that he owned free and clear two years ago. Hate me if you want but I'm not feeling all that sorry for him myself.

162 right now i'm leaning towards Bachmann.

Posted by: YRM at June 27, 2011 06:59 PM (3XDPM)

But Perry has a rockin' body! What the hell are you thinking?

163 WORST RECOVERY EVAHR!!!

164

Apparently he couldn't afford it.

Posted by: Tom at June 27, 2011 06:45 PM (nQR0p)

None of us could afford a house of any size if we had to assume a prolonged loss of income as part of the factors for determining affordability. Jackass.

165 my self loathing conservative bro has been denying a double dip, now he's saying it might happend after all. yet he gives Obama a C-. I give him a F. I wish I could go lower...

166 Don't worry. Barrack is joining up with Big Business to save your economy.

167 >>....I wish Bachmann would just end the drama and accept the apology.


Maybe Wallace should apologize to her for CBS News running the question in their evening newscast.

168

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 27, 2011 07:03 PM (LH6ir)

LMAO, best reply I've ever gotten on this blog

169

Look, let's get back to reality here for a minute. The JEF is a stuttering clusterfuck of a failure of Biblical proportions. Americans aren't all stupid, although we will lie to pollsters on occasion in order to maintain our societal expectations. He is going down, and he will drag the Dimocrat party and progressivism with him.

It's also up to us to help this along. Ace mentions the "preference cascade," which is begun as a sort of whispering campaign. If we talk to enough of our friends whom we suspect got us into this mess and ask them the right questions, like who do you personally know who is better off today, they will gradually figure things out for themselves. They'll come to understand that they aren't alone in wondering what happenend to HopenChange. sometimes subtlety is the key.

Ya gotta have a little faith...

170

I was unemployed for 2 years and lived out of a suitcase for most of those years. that's all you need to know.

Posted by: YRM at June 27, 2011 06:58 PM (3XDPM)

No problem.   I know how old you are, and I know you have nobody to support, but yourself.

171

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 27, 2011 07:05 PM (G/MYk)

Bolton for VP?! that's a leap, any details on why you think it might happen?

172

Posted by: Steph at June 27, 2011 07:05 PM (AkdC5)

ok then, then you know what you need to know.

173 According to Fox she has accepted the apology.

174 And then the college bigotry showed up and things became oh so much more rational and meaningful.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 27, 2011 06:59 PM (7utQ2)

We don't need technocrats with degrees in political science and law to run our schemes.  That's the difference between us and them.  We actually believe in this citizen-government shit.  We don't believe that the country should be run by plutocrats who regurgitate their Marxist professors' tired drivel.

I'm a research mathematician and, believe me, I'd rather have somebody with an honest ag degree running the executive branch than somebody who has a degree in political science and law from the "best" universities in the country in the wussmanities or the social-promotion sciences.

I'm not impressed with credentials or language.  My family members didn't go to college and my colleagues do not speak English as their native language, so I've learned that the pseudointellectual twaddle and creased pants that impress the likes of David Brooks is just a facade. True intellect is in what you do and the problems you can solve.

175

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 27, 2011 07:04 PM (k0TKJ)

what? how many apologies must he make? hold on, it might be proper if he called her up and apologize formally...

176 181 Don't worry. Barrack is joining up with Big Business to save your economy.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 27, 2011 07:04 PM

The Megacorporations have cut down to the bone and will hire only minimally, most of their boffo profits have come from overseas sales converted to dollars and repatriated.

The Big Dogs aren't the drivers of new hiring, it's overwhelmingly the small businesses, the same ones who can't afford the overbearing regulations Big Brother is forcing on us, and that's before we get to the taxes

177

I answered by telling them that if anyone in class could explain what grading on a curve was that I would do it (my tests were fair - even easy - and it wouldn't make much of a difference in the grades, anyway).  No one answered, of course.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 27, 2011 06:59 PM (G/MYk)

 

I was lucky with my professors in college.  When asked if tests were graded on a curve, 99% of them said "NO" (with no other explanation given).

178

Posted by: Vic at June 27, 2011 07:06 PM (M9Ie6)

news to me, I retract my statement, i'm glad she has then

179 You know why everyone gets so amped-up over this?

BECAUSE WE ARE IN A F****** DEPRESSION.

Which we are in because of a politically-driven hostile climate for business, oppressive (even beyond their goals) regulation, over-the-top litigation expenses, ham-handedly burdensome labor laws (on top of powerful unions), and most of all COMPLETELY INSANE GOVERNMENT SPENDING.

You all know this. And the hole will get deeper before we get a chance to fill it in, assuming we can be bothered to do so. And if we don't, there won't be enough left to fight over.

I would be a lot happier if no one on the left was EVER elected to ANY office EVER again, but instead we're going to have to fight them tooth and nail every day, FOREVER.

(According to the rules of blog crazy, the caps mean I'm crazy. But why am I crazy? Because we're in a DEPRESSION.)

180 Hey, "you fucked up.You trusted us".

181

Bachmann/Bolton 2012 

Mark my words.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 27, 2011 07:05 PM (G/MYk)

However much money you can afford to bet, I will take it.

No, literally, take it.  Ain't gonna happen.

182 189 According to Fox she has accepted the apology.
Posted by: Vic at June 27, 2011 07:06 PM

Did he buy her a beer first?

183

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 27, 2011 07:08 PM (G/MYk)

well i'll just have to agree to disagree. I like Wallace and will keep watching FOX News Sunday & I say that as someone who's lately leaning towards a Bachmann nom. and just to say it again, it looks like she apologized so I retract that last part.

184 152 Krauthammer: If Bachmann does good after Iowa and afterwards she will be up for the VP slot.

Why am I not surprised?

Posted by: Vic

Who knew she was running for the VP slot.  Make sure Gabe takes her off the poll next month, we only want to vote for presidential candidates.

185 I haven't been much of a fan of Wallace for a long time, but his treatment of Fred last campaign really turned me off.

You must recognize that he IS a liberal, he just tries hard to hide it. He does try to do hit jobs on conservatives at every opportunity.

I haven't watched his show in over a year and when Fox puts him on as a replacement for one of the other anchors I give him the Shep treatment.

186 When folks are finally foreclosed upon and have to start paying for housing, all that "disposable income" is going to evaporate into thin air. Let's see what that does for consumer spending numbers.

187 Did he buy her a beer first?

LOL, does she even drink? I wouldn't bet on it.

188 I give him a F. I wish I could go lower...

I'd use historical letters past Z in the alphabet like an Psi- or Omega-. Because lets face it, his administration is deserving of historic grading.

189

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 27, 2011 07:08 PM (bxiXv)

That's exactly what I was trying to say. Obama and his ilk want things to get worse, so that they can play dictator once they ahve eviscerated us.

190 Precedent D-Day - to quote Dean Wormer: "Daniel Simpson Day... HAS no grade point average. All courses incomplete."

191 This is unexpected.

192

Did he buy her a beer first?

I doubt the woman drinks, if she does color me shocked

193 Don't piss on my back and tell me it's Black Rain;


OH LOVELY: Residents Near Fukushima Are Pissing Radioactive Urine

194 Google "is Bachmann a flake" and see how many hits you get, I got 12.7 million, so the apology doesn't undo the damage, it draws more attention to it.

195

Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 27, 2011 07:13 PM (G/MYk)

I could actually buy a Bachmann/Bolton ticket, I'd be suprised if your prediction comes true though.

196 To Krauthammer's remark about VP...

She and Romney have done a great job of not attacking each other. I think each wants Obama out of office more than anything else and each feels certain that whichever of them gets the nomination, the 2nd slot might be their's for the taking. I think a ticket shared between the two of them might actually do the trick.

197

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 27, 2011 07:14 PM (k0TKJ)

what do you expect the man to do then?

198

Posted by: Clueless at June 27, 2011 07:15 PM (piMMO)

ahem

199 We don't need technocrats with degrees in political science and law to run our schemes.

See--that's the thing, the Yale and Harvard set have run the country over the cliff and they still give the nostril raise about other schools.  They insist upon themselves.  Enough.

200 Shut the fuck up.

201 OH LOVELY: Residents Near Fukushima Are Pissing Radioactive Urine

Really?! Was it absolutely necessary for them to put up a photo of a bottle of piss? I mean, if it were glowing an eery green, yeah, but otherwise we all know what piss looks like!

Blech.

202 She should be thankin' me!
Chris "Just Like My Pop" Wallace

203 Before you get too pissed off at Chris Wallace, remember that FNC sells itself as "fair and balanced", not "ALL GOP Good News All the Time" like Jon Stewart says it is. Wallace is what he is and doesn't pretend to be a conservative. He's pretty evenhanded for being a lefty.

Be more pissed off at Obama knobgobbler Bill O'Reilly, who swears he's looking out for you while he fellates the power brokers in big government

204

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 27, 2011 07:16 PM (k0TKJ)

so the lesson is, fuck up and not apologize to the person. instead, just shut up.

ok...

205

60 Minutes yesterday had the FIRST actual news report I've seen on network tv on how bad the economy is affecting people. The story was about children living in hotels with their parents and trying to manage at school.

Some of the numbers in the story were scary. One lady dealing with homeless families said she now sees about 5 people a day lose their house. The average time of homelessness, no permanent residence, is way above the old average of 3 months.

Canadian programming cut the segment short but not once was Obama mentioned. Media traitors. It's a horrible recession not involving the prez in any way.

206

Posted by: kbdabear at June 27, 2011 07:17 PM (so1xa)

plus Wallace has talked about the fact there is lefty bias in interviews and gives Sarah Palin better props then even some other conservatives could.

O'Reilly just tells everyone "Obama doesn't know what he's doing with all due respect, it's not about policies." then turns around talks about "evil big oil."

speaking of which, can we all agree that PIXAR had it's first ever fuck up w/ Cars 2?

207 Yeah, a four thousand square foot that he owned free and clear two years ago. Hate me if you want but I'm not feeling all that sorry for him myself.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 27, 2011 07:02 PM (GZitp)

Don't hate you fuckstick I just think you're a fucking moron. He had to start borrowing against it before he lost it, dumbfuck, to cover his business expenses

208

FUCK

/sock off

I screwed up, my apologies to Marco Rubio

commenter: fuck you! your apology means nothing

209 I'll one up progress's prediction:

Field + Rubio.

There's the winner.

210

ahem

Posted by: Rubio at June 27, 2011 07:15 PM (3XDPM)

Dude, I love Rubio. He's my senator (I'm not claiming Nelson as my own). Frankly, I'd rather see him in the Senate kicking ass. As a side note, if we do lose in 2012, and if the world is still turning thereafter, I would expect him to run in 2016. Then again, I would also expect to see Rand and Rick Scott running as well.

Too bad Rubio and Scott are both in Florida. I actually feel a little greedy, but not greedy enough that I'd give either one of them up.

And, I still have a serious girly hard-on for Rand Paul. I just love him.

211

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 27, 2011 07:21 PM (7utQ2)

but what if Rubio declines?

*DA-DUM-DUM!*

212

Posted by: Clueless at June 27, 2011 07:22 PM (piMMO)

he's my senator too, I voted for him and supported him when he was getting his ass kicked by Crist in the early polls. I was just refering to the idea out there that he's the 1st VP pick and it's his to decline.

and btw I can't wait to vote against that fucker Nelson next year.

213 speaking of which, can we all agree that PIXAR had it's first ever fuck up w/ Cars 2?

At least one person agrees with you, at least a little.

214

so let's recap,

Obama still sucks

Wallace's apology was app. not good enough for hardcore Bachmann supporters

Perry has been predicted the next prez by a guy known to get things right

and Cars 2 was a major fuck up

okay, got it, good

215

@30: "I hate that there is a silver lining to more Americans losing their jobs or unable to find work."

What are you talking about?  That (more Americans losing their jobs or unable to find work) IS the silver lining.

216 No the lesson is don't be suck a dick and if you're going to apologize, do it in person or over the phone, not publicly.

217 Be more pissed off at Obama knobgobbler Bill O'Reilly, who swears he's looking out for you while he fellates the power brokers in big government

When Fox News first came on O'Reilly was the man. I'd go to work and tell my co-workers about how he was catching shit from both sides of the aisle and only a few people knew what I was talking about. What?!  FNC was revolutionary. O'Reilly then faced the king-of-the-hill problem and did what many in his situation do: 1. Got the big-head and 2. started trying to appeal to a wider audience.

The dick.

218 No the lesson is don't be suck a dick and if you're going to apologize, do it in person or over the phone, not publicly.

I think you do both. If the insult was public, then a public apology is necessary as well.

219 I have never liked Chris Wallace- he always has that self-satisfied smirk of a man who is smelling his own flatulence [keeping it clean]

220 @109: "Oh, and it's idiots who "needed" 4000 square foot homes than got us in this fucking mass."

Yeah, the investment banks that knowingly packaged crap sandwiches of mortgages, the banks that lent in direct violation of their established practices, the gummint that hit the gas on pulling forward demand for the last 30 years, the assorted fraudsters and banksters thrilled at huge bonuses regardless of the cost, the devastation of our industrial base, none of that was of any consequence.  If only those greedy bastards who wanted a nice house (with Wall St., the White House, Congress, every bank, and every financial guru cheering them on) hadn't done that, we'd be fine.

221 @137: "I hope his dog dies."

Hey, screw you, pal!  What, I can't just run away? Get adopted by a loving family?  *I* have to die because you don't like Tom?  Excuse me whilst I piss on your ankles.

222

Real GDP is nominal (current dollars) GDP adjusted for inflation. The deflator used for GDP is not the CPI but a complicated mess that depends on the economic output balance itself. That is the "basket of goods" used for the deflator is not fixed, but changes with the economic output itself.

      To adjust for population, you need to look at real GDP per capita.  And bear in mind that many suspect the BEA overestimates GDP just as the BLS (Bureau of Lies and Statistics) understates inflation and unemployment.

  FRED at the St. Louis Fed is a good place to see all this economic data and chart it if you like.

223 None of us could afford a house of any size if we had to assume a prolonged loss of income as part of the factors for determining affordability. Jackass.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at June 27, 2011 07:04 PM (0q2P7

thank you Mike

224 @211: "OH LOVELY: Residents Near Fukushima Are Pissing Radioactive Urine"

Ricky Martin hardest hit.....

225

Here's some real GDP graps from Fred:

  First is Real GDP, quarterly, 3-decimal:

http://tinyurl.com/44bo4b7

     And the annualized rate of change:

http://tinyurl.com/3avu968

      And Year over Year percent change:

http://tinyurl.com/kpeakr

      You can see what the fellow Ace quoted was talking about. The Bamster and The Bernanke ain't doing so hot. You can clearly see the V-shape ain't there this time around and there is no robust snapback

226 I was pretty strident earlier (and brief) because I was In The Shit at the moment and I've got everything taped together now, so I'm slightly calmer.

I meant every word, though, and that is why some long-time folk start shouting at each other over the economy or whatever related to Herr Doktor Presidente Jefe el McGolfsalot and, more importantly, the recent Democratic congress that took us from 8.what trillion to 14.what trillion in debt in a couple of years, and tanked the economy in the process (though that process started long before).

We're mad, we're talking, and so we end up arguing. Makes me mad. We should be out organizing, TEA Partying, gathering signatures for an impeachment (even if they don't do it) or for the removal of Holder, telling people what we know about Golfsalot's commie past and buddies, whatever.

227

And finally, I did a quick comparison of GDP vs total federal debt, indexed for comparison (2007 = 100). I had to do this since the units were different and it would take. Compare the growth of GDP vs the growth of debt:

       http://tinyurl.com/3g9qmz3

  Now, here's the year over year change in the two:

       http://tinyurl.com/3g9qmz3

  See the problem? You can't keep growing debt faster than GDP. Even when debt was increasing less fast, it was still faster than GDP by a long shot.

228 Ignore the above pst 250 graphs -- I can't get the dual comparisons to parse through Tiny URL correctly. But you can do that stuff yourself at FRED.

229

 

      This should work now. This is comparison of GDP growth vs Federal debt growth. Here we have to use nominal GDP, not real for valid comparison

http://tinyurl.com/3ffwp7x

        Anyway, there's the problem right there. You can't keep growing debt faster than GDP forever. We've hit that wall now.

230 161Posted by: Shoey at June 27, 2011 06:53 PM (jdOk/)

That certainly added to the conversation.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 27, 2011 06:56 PM (LH6ir)

 

actually I've been spoiling for a fight all day, I should have kept my big mouth shut.

i apologize.

231 0.8...don't blow it.

232 My fucking balls are in a sling over this 0.8 bullshit. Fuck it. I'm going to get laid.

233 The standard response from Obama apologists is that recession of 2008 and 2009 was different because, as former Clinton administration economist Robert Shapiro puts it, "this was a financial crisis, and these take longer to recover from." ---- This is true. It also means the president has to work even harder to prevent a lost decade or two ala Japan, not just say "fuck it, I'm golfing." Only a Dem can get away with that.

234 Posted by: Shoey at June 27, 2011 08:42 PM (m6OUa)

I'll accept that apology the day I make as big an ass of myself as you did on this blog.

Oh, wait, that happened about two days after I started reading this lunatic asylum!

Dude. Much appreciated, even if it wasn't necessary.

235 Krauthammer and Wallace have both been crossed off my list of people to listen to. They are fucken flakes themselves.

236 Obama demands-- a "clean bill" just raises the debt limit without seeking a

237 "clean bill" just raises the debt limit without seeking a

238 a "clean bill," as Obama demands-- a "clean bill" just raises the debt limit without seekin