1 If Bernie Sanders is calling Obama out, wow.

2 I've been framed!

3 The Obama's 2010 federal tax return lists an account with JPMorgan

4 I'm feeling blue today.

5 I'm out of commission for a couple of days, and Ace is on FIRE, man. I'd like to say this shocks, me, but it seems to be par for the current course. When are the smelly hippies going to protest these bastards?

6 Matt Damon .. Matt Damon .. Matt Damon .. Matt Damon

7 We've all been framed!

8 This whole thing is really just different shades of grey.

9 1 If Bernie Sanders is calling Obama out, wow.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 20, 2011 03:49 PM (dZ756)

The Obamas are the 1%

10 Any allegation that the Federal Reserve is a criminal conspiracy is crazy talk. It's totally legitimate a good idea that this independent organization can print dollars at any time that it owns which it then lends to everybody else. And expects them to pay back with interest. In the form of more of its green pieces of paper with pictures of dead presidents.

11
brb, pullin us back from the brink of depression

12
A man who fishes for marlin in ponds will put his money in Etruscan bonds.

13 You idiots just need to think inside the box .

14 10-but don't you dare try to buy old vinyl records or used baby clothes with those green pieces of paper in Louisiana, you potential criminal.

15 The Justice Department will begin their investigation in 3...2...  Oh, hell, who am I kidding. Holder's name is probably on the list of people that benefited.

16 Almost makes ya wanna join Occupy Wall Street!  almost.. especially since it turned cold and rainy..

17 The republic is dying.

18
Fidelity: A virtue peculiar to those who are about to be betrayed.

19 From the moment Bernanke and Paulson said they needed $700 billion RIGHT NOW or we're all gonna die!!! was there ever any doubt this is how it was going to turn out?

20 A man who fishes for marlin in ponds will put his money in Etruscan bonds.
Posted by: Dr. Varno
...........
sounds like a Frank Zappa lyric!

21 Wait 'till get you load of me .

22 10-but don't you dare try to buy old vinyl records or used baby clothes with those green pieces of paper in Louisiana, you potential criminal.

The only greenbacks I'd use for trade in LA are gator hides.

23 So pissed I didn't scam money out of this.  So.  Pissed.

24 I was raped
- America

25 Hey,where is that asshole Phil? Still on the other thread talking to himself? He should be here defending O'jugears.

26 Wait till they figure out how much money has been funneled back for The Kenyon Overlords Reeeee- Election....I bet the media will be all over that one ....

27
brb, holdin up bridges

28 This is the last straw. I'm going to drive up to Newfoundland this weekend and #OccupyDildo. Who's in?

29 Posted by: moki at October 20, 2011 03:49 PM (dZmFh)

Moki!  How ya feeling?!  Everything go well?

30 Appalling.

31 16 Almost makes ya wanna join Occupy Wall Street!  almost.. especially since it turned cold and rainy..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 20, 2011 03:54 PM
____________________________________
....or is it " Cold and Whiny "

32 Posted by: Interest Rate Derivatives at October 20, 2011 03:56 PM (npr0X)

That reminds me of an article I saw at zerohedge earlier in the week (possibly yesterday) worrying about Bank of America using its $1 trillion of deposits to backstop $54 trillion in derivatives. Because the depositers never got a say in the matter (short of yanking their money before the bottom falls out). I see two problems with this. One, 1<54. Two B of A is one bank and it's allegedly going to cover bets that total almost 4 times our GDP. WTF?

But don't worry, the banking industry is all on the up and up.

33 Why, it's  turtles  cronies all the way down!

34
"(liberals) are always under the dominion of the superstition of government, and forgetting that a government produces nothing at all, they leave out of sight the first fact to be remembered in all social discussion -- that the state cannot get a cent for any man without taking it from some other man, and this latter must be a man who has produced and saved it. This latter is the Forgotten Man." --  William Graham Sumner

35 24, there already is one below.

36
brb, scarin 6th graders

37 Big business loves big government.  It lets them both screw the little guy. 

38 I'm going to drive up to Newfoundland this weekend and #OccupyDildo. Who's in? Don't forget the Screech .

39 OT: Oblahblah: "...and one of the world's longest serving dictators is no more" Idiot, dictators don't 'serve'. Unless of course you think they do...

40 26 Hey,where is that asshole Phil? Still on the other thread talking to himself? He should be here defending O'jugears. Posted by: ziptie at October 20, 2011 03:58 PM (N5Gqy) Naw, that's either Average Joe or navycopjoe. As to this...Goldman Sachs is in the business of making money. TARP was where the money was. Goldman Sachs people were in on TARP. It's like thinking a dog won't eat a steak you dropped on the floor.

41 The most transparent Administration EVER!

42 30 Hey Tami-C, I'd say it was a cluster#### but after the CT/Biospy yesterday, I understand why they are proceeding the way so slowly. My kidney is right up under my lung, and the tumor is growing from the kidney to the lung. So they are having to rethink what they are going to do. I will say that the biopsy was awful-I don't react to local anesthesia, and they could only use local because I had to be awake. So I was down for a couple of days recuperating. That said, my nurses and doctors were absolutely lovely, and we had a good time in spite of everything. I will know tomorrow what they are going to do. The worst part was not reading any news for a couple of days, and then seeing all the crap that is going on. Dang, I can see why ignorance is sometimes bliss.

43

Sadly, the stopped clock syndrome IS at work with the OWS people...

Wallstreet is out of control, and its a Systemic issue IMO.

Capitalism is based on the idea of accrueing Capital to MAKE things... not just gathering money... yet Traders on Wallstreet, and in the Derivitive market, and the Futures markets, are all based on Betting IF somthing will go up or down, in a short period of time.

Lots of Capital is sitting in that game, in those accounts, vice being used to actualy MAKE things...

When you find out that only about 5% of Oil Futures contracts are ever delivered?  its just a betting pool... but that betting decides the prices for US consumers.

Add in all the derivitve markets, and insurance... and you have a HUGE amount of capital just being used to protect other Piles of Capital...

Now, add in a Federal Reserve Bank, who is NOT accountable to NO ONE?  Even as it prints American Dollars?

The Bankocracy and WallStreet is out of control IMO... it does not need to be disolved, but sure needs some adult supervision...

44 brb, eating soothie's face.

45

Ah, but it's the Republicans who are in bed with big corporations and Wall Street. 

I am beyond being surprised by anything any more.  It's pointless knowing about all this corruption in the Obama aministration because nothing will ever be done about it.  All it does is make my blood pressure shoot up 100 points. 

Can you imagine if GWB did this? 

 

46 If the Obama campaign coffers are X and the amount spent on the campaign is 10X and afterwards his campaign debt is somehow 0, how much press interest will this create? Yes. That's right class. The answer is also 0.

47 3 angry men

48 Problem is, all this bullshit adds up to nothing.  Our affirmative action prez will always get a goddam pass, his campaign will continue to get paper'd up like a motherfucker, and his base will pull a lever for his lame ass until the end of time no matter what.

49 the way so slowly Ugh. I can't think well either. Proceeding so slowly.

50 I'm confused, is it worse that the Fed Directors did it?  My point is we got the entire Senate Finance Committee pulling this kind of shit, probably most of the congress critters.  My outrage meter is burned out.

51

I'd say it was a cluster#### but after the CT/Biospy yesterday, I understand why they are proceeding the way so slowly. My kidney is right up under my lung, and the tumor is growing from the kidney to the lung. So they are having to rethink what they are going to do. I will say that the biopsy was awful-I don't react to local anesthesia, and they could only use local because I had to be awake. So I was down for a couple of days recuperating.

 

Holy cow!   I'm so sorry to hear that.  You are in for some big surgery.  Are they going to radiate first and try and shrink it?  (Although, when you do that, it makes it harder to do surgery).

52 I will say that the biopsy was awful-I don't react to local anesthesia, and they could only use local because I had to be awake. So I was down for a couple of days recuperating. Holy shit, no anesthetic at all? Did they at least give you some valium?

53 As to this...Goldman Sachs is in the business of making money. TARP was where the money was. Goldman Sachs people were in on TARP. It's like thinking a dog won't eat a steak you dropped on the floor.

Pfft...only corrupt govt crony dogs get steak dropped on their floor.  Its soylent green for the rest.

54 Add in all the derivitve markets, and insurance... and you have a HUGE amount of capital just being used to protect other Piles of Capital...

You wish there were actually any big piles of capital protecting the other piles of capital.

55
Travis the DEAD Chimp

56 It's pointless knowing about all this corruption in the Obama aministration because nothing will ever be done about it.

The TARP Community Security Committee will counsel the shit out of those guys.

57 The worst part was not reading any news for a couple of days, and then seeing all the crap that is going on. Dang, I can see why ignorance is sometimes bliss.

Posted by: moki at October 20, 2011 04:04 PM (dZmFh)

Yeah, considering the news, that's probably the best part!  Glad you had good caregivers...makes a big difference.  Hang in there.

58 #41 Haven't quite got a grip on this sock thing yet.Hard to distinguish the ron's from the trolls.

59

Totally OT, but can we have a "Let's Find Out How Many Different Ways There Are To Spell 'Moumar Quadhaffi'" thread?

 

Also, has anyone else seen the A Very Harold and Kumar Christmas red band trailer over at firstshowing.net?  It is a gas, man.  I'd link it, but I can't use the link-fu thing at the top of the comment box on this computer, for some reason.

60 George Bush and the Republicans in Congress need to answer for their culture of corruption and for their failed economic policies!

61 Way O/T, but my newest hearthrob, Sheriff Babeu is at it again.  Sigh!  Just read the article in the sidebar.  Boy, he makes me hawt!  Plus he's easy on the eyes! 

62 I'm sure that crazy whackjob Herman Cain is responsible.  Somehow.

63

Undead, bitch.

 

Faaaacessss!

64

Romney's a Mormon. Cain eats pizza. Perry/rock with bad word, Bachmann/crazy eyes, Santorum goes to church (church! can you believe it?), Newt/funny name, etc.

However, your annointed sovereign killed bin Laden and Quadafi with the power of his mind.

65 Blindfold and/or cigarette?

66
The TARP Community Security Committee Phil's pre-employment psycholoical services contract...will counsel the shit out of those guys.

FIFY

67

Blindfold and/or cigarette?

 

I'll take the cigarette. 

68

>If the Obama campaign coffers are X and the amount spent on the campaign is 10X and afterwards his campaign debt is somehow 0, how much press interest will this create?

 

I was told this class was an easy A and there would be no math

69 apitalism is based on the idea of accrueing Capital to MAKE things... not just gathering money... yet Traders on Wallstreet, and in the Derivitive market, and the Futures markets, are all based on Betting IF somthing will go up or down, in a short period of time. Lots of Capital is sitting in that game, in those accounts, vice being used to actualy MAKE things... When you find out that only about 5% of Oil Futures contracts are ever delivered? its just a betting pool... but that betting decides the prices for US consumers. I understand your point, Romeo, but a large part of the problem with making things in this country are the regulations and the union demands. There was certainly a need for reforming the way workers were treated in the early part of the 20th century. But unions gained a little power, and used that to influence politicians into helping them gain more. So when a union can tell a company owner how to run his company, I don't really blame him for shutting it down and moving it overseas. I don't like it, and I wish business could stay here, but I understand that if something I thought up, poured my money and my time and my heart into was used against me by people I hired to work for me, I would be pretty pissed. As for Wall Street, most of those futures and derivative traders are from liberal ilk who don't want to dirty their hands doing "labor," they want to make money the easy way. By speculation. (Isn't that what Chelsea Clinton and her hubby do?) So that's firmly in the Dem corner as well. That said, I think the only way it can be fixed is dramatic change in labor law/company regulations, so that the burdensome taxation, regulations to save spotted minnows, or allowing drill permits to be exercised can take place to provide jobs, create new manufacturing in OUR country, and let us get back to being America.

70 Who's up for some Megan McCain pics down at OWS?

No one.

Okay, I'll spare you as they were from Gawker anyway.

71

Hey, watch it! We're kind of sensitive about the whole "Government Sachs" thing.

72

However, your annointed sovereign killed bin Laden and Quadafi with the power of his mind.

No, that's what I was trying to do to garrett earlier today *blows kisses*

You wish there were actually any big piles of capital protecting the other piles of capital.

From the itty bitty tiny bit I understand, it's pretty much all just turtles one stack of paper against another stack of turtles paper. 

Hey, remember in Pretty Woman how Julia "most believable hooker evah" Roberts shames Richard Gere by pointing out he doesn't actually make anything?  Good times, good times. 

73 The mob in the Quadhaffi kill video is reminiscent of a tea party meeting.

74

No, that's what I was trying to do to garrett earlier today *blows kisses*

 

Lower...

 

 

 

 

75

@25: "I was raped
- America"

Lie back on the pinball machine and think of worship Obama.  You think you'd be thanking him, after all, he just got you laid.

76 runningrn has just given massive hope to all the bald morons out there

;-)

77 74 The mob in the Quadhaffi kill video is reminiscent of a tea party meeting. Posted by: Main Stream Media at October 20, 2011 04:19 PM (6Cjut) Meh. I wish I had an arsenal like that. (Or was that the wrong answer?)

78

Lower...

Okay, I admit it, I kind of accidentally teed that right up. 

79 I've finally found my magic marker.  I just have to rip up a piece of card board and I'll be ready to join the OWS ers in protesting SCOAMF!  Bastards.  They can't do this to us non-racist, non-violent legitimate protesters!

80

Hmm.  The USA Chief of Mercedes Benz was axed unexpectedly.  Apparently, he allegedly paid for personal expenses (travel and home remodeling) with company money.  Didn't the Obamas do some redecorating with expensive chi-chi decorator Michael Smith when they first moved into the WH?  Doesn't Moochelle go on fancy, expensive vacas on taxpayer's dimes?  Isn't Barry using taxpayer money to do all his current campaigning?  Why is there a different standard for corporate America than for gubamint officials?

From WSJ:

"The ouster of Mr. Lieb, a well-respected exec among Mercedes dealers and within the company, came as a surprise given Mercedes healthy gains in U.S. sales and market share during his tenure."

 

Geez!  The dude was even doing a good job too!  (The same cannot be said for Obumbles).

81
remember the '90's?

Remember when we took POWER NAPS?

And ate POWER LUNCHES?

82 Will you all ignore this thread if I show you my tits?

83 I dare someone to hold their breathe till the press makes a big deal out of this.

84 and wore POWER TIES?

85 Returning the favor.

The Big Wall Street Banks Are Already Trying To Buy The 2012 Election

Goldman Sachs

Mitt Romney: $352,200
Barack Obama: $49,124
Tim Pawlenty: $25,000
Jon Huntsman: $6,750
Rick Perry: $5,500
Ron Paul: $2,500

Morgan Stanley

Mitt Romney: $184,800
Tim Pawlenty: $41,715
Barack Obama: $28,225
Rick Perry: $20,750
Jon Huntsman: $9,750
Newt Gingrich: $1,000
Ron Paul: $1,000
Herman Cain: $500

Bank of America

Mitt Romney: $112,500
Barack Obama: $46,699
Tim Pawlenty: $12,750
Jon Huntsman: $4,250
Ron Paul: $3,451
Rick Perry: $2,600
Thad McCotter: $2,000
Herman Cain: $750
Michele Bachmann: $500
Newt Gingrich: $250

JPMorgan Chase

Mitt Romney: $107,250
Barack Obama: $38,039
Rick Perry: $27,050
Tim Pawlenty: $16,750
Jon Huntsman: $7,500
Ron Paul: $5,451

Citigroup

Mitt Romney: $56,550
Barack Obama: $36,887
Tim Pawlenty: $5,300
Rick Perry: $3,000
Herman Cain: $1,465
Michele Bachmann: $1,000
Ron Paul: $702

86
brb, gettin a power bj

87 OT poll in top post at HotAir. Obama, while winning, has trouble breaking 50% against any major GOP candidate.

In Illinois!

88 Geithner was on the NY Fed when Lehman's went under and was sold to Barclay's. Wonder how much he was paid?

89 52/53 runningrn-ugh, don't tell me that!!! I was hoping they could deal with it via laparascope. They don't want to radiate because the tumor is so deep-it's mostly outside the kidney, but right up against the lung, although I don't think it has started growing into it yet. Joncelli! I got a little fentinyl-I can't take valium. So I was a little loopy, but I felt everything. The nurse held my hand so I could squeeze it when it got bad. I don't think I broke it, though.

90
Power ties?

I don't remember that.

91 And now, in addition to Wall Street demo donors, these guys go under the bus. The left truly is the scorpion of legend - if you help them, they turn on you. From the radical end of violent purges, from revolutionary France to the current day, to simple modern politics like Obama's turn on his political mentors in Chicago and turning on huge donors like Wall Street companies and banks, it is what they are. And yet people continue to flock to them, hoping to be the exception to the rule.

92 not only is the Obama Administration infested with so many Goldman Sachs people that Goldman almost is the government

Matt Taibi points this out in his book, Griftopia. It's amazing, what with the revolving doors of Goldman Sachs, The Fed, and the Obama administration. As you point out, it is truly crooked criminal.

93 Flounder where did that list come from? Daily Kos?

94 Power ties? I don't remember that. Posted by: soothsayer at October 20, 2011 04:25 PM (sqkOB) You forgot to change your nick to "Charlie Gibson."

95

Posted by: alexthechick at October 20, 2011 04:21 PM (VtjlW)

 

...why you bringing up old shit, anyway?

96 "You forgot to change your nick to "Charlie Gibson." I don't remember nick.

97
Joo Banskters

Romney: $5,000,000
Obama: $2
Perry: $1

Posted by: Flounder

98 Posted by: moki at October 20, 2011 04:04 PM

Hang in there!

99 The Big Wall Street Banks Are Already Trying To Buy The 2012 Election

Maybe it's just me, but it looks as if there's one candidate in particular they really have shown an interest in owning. But I'm sure that's just me.

100 Way O/T, but my newest hearthrob, Sheriff Babeu is at it again.  Sigh!  Just read the article in the sidebar.  Boy, he makes me hawt!  Plus he's easy on the eyes! 

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2011 04:11 PM (u/RSM)

Still OT - yeah, he's our sheriff.  Love the guy!

101 Nice. The crony capitalists are betting on Mittens to stay the course if he gets the nod.

102 92 You're kidding? Power ties were all the rage. Your tie had to be more powerful than the next guys. Yellow or Red. Bam.

103

brb, gettin a power bj

 

What is, Reggie Love's Facebook Status?

104 The Democrat party has *always* been the party of Tammany Hall.

105

Posted by: Flounder at October 20, 2011 04:23 PM (Kkt/i)

Now thats Scary! No money for the sitting Congressmen?

106

runningrn has just given massive hope to all the bald morons out there

;-)

 

Heh!  He is a good looking guy, and I love how he's expressing his mind-thoughts!

I'm a sucker for a good communicator!  I love how direct he is and how he calls a spade a spade.  (Uh oh, was that racist?  I ban myself!)

 

107 It's amazing, what with the revolving doors of Goldman Sachs, The Fed, and the Obama administration.

Insty's been flogging a version of the Goldman logo with the O changed to the Obama logo.  I'd pay money to see a bunch of people with that on a sign show up at an "Occupy" protest.  Just make sure to have multiple HD camcorders to capture the resulting cognitive dissonance and heads exploding.

108

When the whole banking mess started back in W's admin., I knew that it was nothing but a scam.  So did Rush.  So did many others.  There should have been an immediate no-holds-barred investigation before anyone gave anyone else any money. 

The attitude that something has to be done "now" has come home to roost. 

I pray for my country.  It's unraveling before my eyes and it's heartbreaking.

109

Still OT - yeah, he's our sheriff.  Love the guy!

 

 

Oh my gosh, if I lived there, he'd need a restraining order!  I'd be bringing him home made cookies and brownies every day. 

110

Yeah, that list is a little suspicious. My old friend was trying to tell me that the banks were all aligned with the Republicans. I asked her why they all gave Obama more money then and why did he bail them all out if they weren't in each other's pants?

I'd like some actual numbers.

Somebody go look those up for me. Thanks.

111
I remember when paisley ties were all the rage again.

112

I'd be bringing him home made cookies and brownies every day. 

I'd prefer Pie.

113 Way O/T, but my newest hearthrob, Sheriff Babeu is at it again.  Sigh!  Just read the article in the sidebar.  Boy, he makes me hawt!  Plus he's easy on the eyes! 

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2011 04:11 PM (u/RSM)

Oh yeah, that guy....any day, any place, any time....twice.

114

I also need some names of Goldman people who are/were in the admin to further support my argument.

 

115
paisley, a.k.a. amoeba ties

116 26 Hey,where is that asshole Phil? Still on the other thread talking to himself? He should be here defending O'jugears. Posted by: ziptie at October 20, 2011 03:58 PM

He's waiting for his tee shirt to come out of the wash so that he can take on the rich and racist machine.

He might be picking up a six pack for his new black best friend from the kitchen who agreed to give him a lift back to his dorm

117 Joncelli! I got a little fentinyl-I can't take valium. So I was a little loopy, but I felt everything. The nurse held my hand so I could squeeze it when it got bad. I don't think I broke it, though. Posted by: moki at October 20, 2011 04:25 PM (dZmFh) Oy. You're a better moron than I, moki. Hopefully they gave you good pain meds afterwards. Hang in there.

118 111-oooo, I just saw the pictures, and he is cute. And not taking crap about F&F makes him all the more attractive. Yeah, that office would be full of cookies and brownies and casseroles.

119

runningrn-ugh, don't tell me that!!! I was hoping they could deal with it via laparascope. They don't want to radiate because the tumor is so deep-it's mostly outside the kidney, but right up against the lung, although I don't think it has started growing into it yet.

 

I don't know if that can be done through a scope given it's size and all.  If that was me, I'd want them to have good exposure and be able to have good visualization. 

I wish you the best as you proceed with treatment options.  I will be keeping you in my prayers, Moki!

120 I'd prefer Pie.

Stay away from me.

121

Is Obama the Left's token you-know-what?

 

jus thinking out loud in pixels

122
My mom just made some cookies.

They're down in the kitchen.

123

Oh my gosh, if I lived there, he'd need a restraining order!  I'd be bringing him home made cookies and brownies every day. 

Posted by: runningrn at October 20, 2011 04:29 PM (u/RSM)

I'll be very careful in how I say this:  Babeu gives me at least a modicum of confidence that if the SHTF, he and his deputies will be on the "right" side (IYKWIMAITYD).

I could be wrong ...

Anyway, off to the gym ... see y'all in a few.

124 119/122 Thanks y'all (hugs and kisses)

125

I'd prefer Pie.

 

I can do pie!

126 OT:  “I didnÂ’t use, no no noÂ…LetÂ’s get it straight, guy. DonÂ’t screw around with me,” Biden lashed out.

Sounds like some kind of gay code to me.  He even lashed.  Strange fellow.  Always talking about rape and now this.  His mouth says "no no" but his wagging finger says,  "reach-around!"

127 Flawless ...

128

 Stay away from me.

I hear your pi goes on forever...

129 Flounder where did that list come from? Daily Kos?

Posted by: Mr Pink at October 20, 2011 04:25 PM (iRB4e)

You serious? What's your point? Did you follow the link? You can't be that obtuse.  Don't be a doofus.

Don't forget that TARP was signed into law by a republican president, under the guidance of Paulson and Bernanke.  In case you forget, that was a $700B slush fund for these banks.

All these guys wreak of ties to these big money interests.  If the point is that these 3 guys are Obama cronies and that's bad, then I agree. Let's not replace one (Obama) with another with another with an R behind his name (Romney).

130 I just don't buy the numbers in #86.  If you look up big WS donors whenever they come up, they give hugely to the D.  Schumer is awash in Wall Street cash.  So was Dodd, so is Frank.

131
Left Wing Comics present...


Occupy woMan!

When you need a person of indeterminate gender to squat in your house, eat your food, and defecate on your furniture, call...

Occupy woMan!

132 Suckers of Cock.

133 I'd say it was a cluster#### but after the CT/Biospy yesterday, I understand why they are proceeding the way so slowly. My kidney is right up under my lung, and the tumor is growing from the kidney to the lung. So they are having to rethink what they are going to do. I will say that the biopsy was awful-I don't react to local anesthesia, and they could only use local because I had to be awake. So I was down for a couple of days recuperating.

That said, my nurses and doctors were absolutely lovely, and we had a good time in spite of everything. I will know tomorrow what they are going to do.

The worst part was not reading any news for a couple of days, and then seeing all the crap that is going on. Dang, I can see why ignorance is sometimes bliss.

Posted by: moki at October 20, 2011 04:04 PM (dZmFh)

Prayers for you Moki, I am a cancer survivor and dealing with End Stage Renal Disease. Wow.

134 The US Government has been just like all the other corrupt regimes in the word.  It just doesn't flat out murder it's people in the streets.  It just robs them blind and makes itself the wealthiest on the planet.

135 I hear your pi goes on forever...

It goes on and on like rape at an Occupy rally

136 I wouldn't turn down a taco or two, either.

137 132 Flounder where did that list come from? Daily Kos? Posted by: Mr Pink at October 20, 2011 04:25 PM (iRB4e)

Center for Responsive Politics.  It doesn't seem as if they engaged in chicanery to arrive at the numbers but it just doesn't feel right to me.

138 my 90s power suit was 3 piece charcoal, powder blue shirt, red pin dot tie, black wingtips

139
Occupy woMan has the power to defy and twist logic, deplete the resources of others, and imitate a bullhorn.

140 No Soona the banking problems started when the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act was enacted in 1999. This removed barriers between banks, insurance companies and securities companies. It though was a Republican sponsored act that had good capitalist intentions that went awry.

141

You know damned well this story will never get any traction in the MFM or anywhere else. It's the Chicago Way writ large and injected into the last place it needs to be, Washington DC.

I've pretty much given up on even trying to keep up with all the scandals in this stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure's administration. I hope we make it until '012, I really do.

I will drink heavily, that's what I'll do.

142 More waste.  Link at insty.

Our tax dollars at workÂ… a half-billion dollar loan (actually $529 million) from the U.S. Department of Energy to develop a hybrid toy for the wealthy and/or celebri-licious (like Leonardo DiCaprio, one of the first customers) that, in real world driving, wonÂ’t get much better mileage than your average crossover utility vehicle. Not only that, but the cars are manufactured in Finland — thatÂ’s right, Finland Â– and shipped here for sale, where their purchasers will then receive a $7,500 tax credit for buying one (the “cheap” base model starts at $96,895, with the full-zoot Eco Chic model going for a bargain $108,900).  Dem donors own company.

143 136- ExEx Zonie-oh heavens, what can we do for you? My stuff is NOTHING compared to that, dear. Seriously, tell me how I can pray for you and your family.

144
In case you forget, that was a $700B slush fund for these banks.

Yet most of it, if not all, was paid back.

Weird, eh?

145 143 No Soona the banking problems started when the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act was enacted in 1999. This removed barriers between banks, insurance companies and securities companies. It though was a Republican sponsored act that had good capitalist intentions that went awry.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at October 20, 2011 04:38 PM (i9cTu)

Sorry.  It all stems from the CRA, specifically, Clinton's expansion of it.

Standard Dem trick.  It was all about touchy-feely good intentions but even then was all about corruption.

146

This should enrage the Occupy crowd. Instead, they are so stupid and ill-informed, they have no clue.

 

147 Without the ability to corruptly feed off tax payers - the left would collapse.

148 Shamelessly stolen from a cartoon: Obama: I won't allow the half of Americans who pay no taxes to bear the burden of the other half who aren't paying their fair share. That sums it up pretty well.

149 I just don't buy the numbers in #86.  If you look up big WS donors whenever they come up, they give hugely to the D.  Schumer is awash in Wall Street cash.  So was Dodd, so is Frank.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 20, 2011 04:36 PM (T0NGe)

That's a fair critique and one I have myself.  I have not verified the numbers, and do not have the time to do so.  But I have been immersed in the goings on on Wall Street and campaign finance since the 2008 crash to reliably believe that Wall Street has picked their guy and it is Romney. 

Take that for what you will.  I think it stinks.

150
hahahaha @ that asshole teacher who got fired for her anti-joo rant

151 When should I expect Mr. Raines and Mr. Dodd?

152 But I have been immersed in the goings on on Wall Street and campaign finance since the 2008 crash to reliably believe that Wall Street has picked their guy and it is Romney.

Oh, have ya now?

I heard that even the Bain Capital employees are giving more to Obama than Romney.  As to Romney being preferred by WS over other Republican candidates, that's clear and not surprising.

153

Posted by: moki at October 20, 2011 04:40 PM (dZmFh)

You stay strong. Not to get too OT but I have survived 9 years next month when they only gave me a 20% chance. What the F do they know anyway? Chemo sucked but I always visualized the cancer cells screaming in their little death throes. Seemed to help, but I'm hateful like that.

154

...why you bringing up old shit, anyway?

Because I was making fun of myself?

155
the comments at huffpo are entertaining

"Why is it ok for Jews to insult Whites, but it's not ok for a person (a Black woman teacher to boot) to simply state the truth about who controls the Federal Reserve and how many times Jews have been run out of countries for such practices?"

Yeah, why???

156 >>reliably believe that Wall Street has picked their guy and it is Romney

Yeah, I believe this.

Look, it makes sense.  He's "Republican" -- maybe not Republican Republican but so what -- and he made his money on the market under basically the current system.  He's a great status quo pick. 

People are still making money on the stock market.  Little investors may not be, but the folks in it are.  They want someone who is going to roll back the most egregious of the class warfare crap from Obama without rocking the boat too much. 

157 Moki and XXZonie, prayers for you both.

158

Prayers for you Moki, I am a cancer survivor and dealing with End Stage Renal Disease. Wow.

Posted by: ExExZonie at October 20, 2011 04:37 PM (jtM4e)

Praying for you too ExExZonie.....

159 Bush did it !

160 Yet most of it, if not all, was paid back.

Weird, eh?
Posted by: soothsayer

Sorry, conservatives need to avoid that response. Why? Because the Treasury has never released a full accounting of the plan, the recipients, and the amounts. No one outside of the Federal government knows exactly what went on. You cannot make a claim that has no evidence available.

Bloomberg and some other news co had to file a FOIA suit just to get a basic outline of the biggest recipients. Oh, and some of those were fucking foreign banks. Sorry, but fuck that noise.

This is not to mention of course that GM's finance arm hasn't repaid it's loans and has resumed auto loans to sub-prime customers!!!

161

I heard that even the Bain Capital employees are giving more to Obama than Romney. As to Romney being preferred by WS over other Republican candidates, that's clear and not surprising.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 20, 2011 04:44 PM (T0NGe)

The Wall Street guys are going to go with the guy that won't rock the boat too much.  And with Romney talking out of both sides of his mouth, back and forth, it makes for a smooth ride.

162

Posted by: alexthechick at October 20, 2011 04:45 PM (VtjlW)

 

Oh, I got that. 

That was a line from the movie 'Friday'.  Seemed perfect for today. 

163 Oh, have ya now?

I heard that even the Bain Capital employees are giving more to Obama than Romney.  As to Romney being preferred by WS over other Republican candidates, that's clear and not surprising.

Posted by: AmishDude at October 20, 2011 04:44 PM (T0NGe)

Yeah. To be clear, I think they hedge their commitments on both sides of the D/R line, especially in such as close and vital election.  My point was that for an R nominee (not necessarily president) Romney is their guy.

164 Yet most of it, if not all, was paid back.

Then loaned out again?  Like GM?

165
Did you ever blow your NOSE so hard that you blow AIR through your TEAR DUCTS?

166 Makes you think maybe the OWS folks should be OWH (Occupy White House).  But they are brain dead socialist useful idiots for these cronies.

167 Insty also has a link showing OdipO getting more money from Wall Street than all repubs combined.

168 No Soona the banking problems started when the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act was enacted in 1999. This removed barriers between banks, insurance companies and securities companies. It though was a Republican sponsored act that had good capitalist intentions that went awry.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at October 20, 2011 04:38 PM (i9cTu)

 

My understanding of the banking crisis was that the leftist control of the housing market was the spark that set off the mess we are now in.  You know, Freddy and Fanny and the congressmen and their cronies that perpetuated it.

The congressional panic fed by the MFM (October surprise?) and the complex of entities ready to bleed our economy dry, plus a plethora of unions and municipalities that could no longer afford their own mandates completed the crisis circuit.

169
The point is that it wasn't a "slush fund."

For instance, Wells Fargo paid back their loan. On the other hand, we'll never get all the money back from GM. Just like we never get paid by the airlines.

Notice anything there? GM & the airlines are both unionized. Wells Fargo, not so much.

170 Did you ever blow your NOSE so hard that you blow AIR through your TEAR DUCTS?

Of course, now your eustachian tubes are full of snot.  Decongestants, stat.

171 The Washington Post came out with a story today of how Obama recieved more Wall Street cash than all the Repub nominees put together. Sorry dont buy your "facts"

172

 Insty also has a link showing OdipO getting more money from Wall Street than all repubs combined.

 

Yeah, but that story appeared in that right wing teabagger rag, The Washington Post, so I doubt it's veracity.

173
Yeah, and check your skives for skid marks.

No incontinence yet, I'm happy to report. Maybe in a few years.

174

Mr. Pink!  We are in simpatico!

 

Are you bald, by chance?

175
pistachio tubes?

I don't have nuts in my head.

176 Nah I got hair, but my wife likes it when I shave downstairs so if that counts yes I am.

177 I don't have nuts in my head.

That's easy to fix!

178
if I'm in every other post...

it must 5-ish o'clock

179 I don't have nuts in my head.

That would be quite a pounding.

180

Nah I got hair, but my wife likes it when I shave downstairs so if that counts yes I am.

 

OK, that was a little TMI!  Heh!

181

Since this thread is on its last legs, I feel safe in saying Sanders has nothing here. Yes, this is crony capitalism at its finest and the whole thing should never have happened. But I remember exactly what happened in those days and why the Treasury co-opted even healthy banks.

In retrospect, it is easy to say we should have let the whole thing melt down--and then, of course, recapitalize the FDIC after the bank runs--but at the time, lending the money out so depositors would know they were safe seemed like the prudent thing to do.

Now that the money has been repaid with interest, it still looks to me like a good deal in financial terms. Much cheaper than it would have been to let the banks fail.

But you guys go ahead and lay some more half-assed hindsight on us, 'kay?

182 69

>If the Obama campaign coffers are X and the amount spent on the campaign is 10X and afterwards his campaign debt is somehow 0, how much press interest will this create?

 

I was told this class was an easy A and there would be no math

Posted by: Jones at October 20, 2011 04:13 PM (8sCoq)

183 184 WAY too much information ...

184
Did you take a power nap and come back to write that comment?

185 That fucking list is just more of the narrative setting the Dems have already broadcasted. They want to tie "wall street" to Romney or any other Repub nominee, so then these protestors can hate on em. They need hate, cause Obama sucks cock and noone has a reason to keep him in office.

186
Clinton's economy brought us Power Naps and Parachute Pants (you can't touch this).

187 My understanding of the banking crisis was that the leftist control of the housing market was the spark that set off the mess we are now in.  You know, Freddy and Fanny and the congressmen and their cronies that perpetuated it.

It's worse than that. Think about anything we finance. Student loans. Auto loans. Yes, mortgages. And, oh yeah, credit cards.

The bubble that must pop next is frigging everything.

188 Yet another story for the MFM to ignore

189
I just took a one minute power nap.

I feel very refreshed. Time to go buy a condo and a Madonna CD.

190 69

>If the Obama campaign coffers are X and the amount spent on the campaign is 10X and afterwards his campaign debt is somehow 0, how much press interest will this create?

 

I was told this class was an easy A and there would be no math

Posted by: Jones at October 20, 2011 04:13 PM (8sCoq)

It was an easy class...no math here...:

ZERO. The answer is ZERO because it is an inert number with innert properties which are inert to the senses and the mind. This is not math it is SCIENCE, to which I have been BLINDED! 

191 The 11s are for Power Assassinations and Power Rapes

192 The point is that it wasn't a "slush fund."

For instance, Wells Fargo paid back their loan. On the other hand, we'll never get all the money back from GM. Just like we never get paid by the airlines.

Notice anything there? GM & the airlines are both unionized. Wells Fargo, not so much.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at October 20, 2011 04:53 PM (sqkOB)

Semantics.  Wells Fargo was forced to take funds they did not need because of their prudential business practices, as part of a $700B program that was designed so not one bank was singled out as weak. No bank looks weak, then no more bank runs.

This program was sold to congress as a way to buy up illiquid assets (bad mortgages and CDOs) a la the 1980's S&L crisis.  Then, immediately it was lent to banks (presumably because, if the illiquid assets were sold, the banks would be forced to mark to market these bad assets that they had been overvaluing, some of which was regulatory required capital). 

We can argue about whether it was entirely paid back or whether it was a good taxpayer return on investment, but it sounds pretty slushy to me.  Note that these banks were then able to lend out these low interest loans at whatever rates they could achieve, while the taxpayer is on the hook to China or whomever else was lending the money to finance TARP.

193 Now that the money has been repaid with interest, it still looks to me like a good deal in financial terms. Much cheaper than it would have been to let the banks fail.

Except that none if actually addressed the fraud induced problems the banks have. Compare the market capitilization of the major banks to their alleged asset value if you don't want to take my word for it.

194

You know what my favorite movie of all time is? "I Spit on Your Grave." Especially the first half.

195 "The whole damn thing is crooked." Yes, quite so. Now, if you add in the amounts that went to Congress critters - whoa Nelly! that makes what got donated to the SCoaMF look like chimp change! - and if you then went to every recipient of TARP funds and checked out their donations THIS year ... Ace, do you really want to go there? Look, what McCain did by taking public financing for his 2008 campaign meant the only place for Wall Street to go was to the Obama campaign. Hell, most of them had already been going there since November 2006, figuring for a Dem Speaker and Dem president in November 2008 anyway - which was Bush' doing, not McCain. So when McCain did his multiple studios sit-down on TARP in September-October, it wouldn't take even an escaped orangutan with HIV to figure out where a full-panic-mode Wall Street was going to speed dial their donations. But right now we're not even up to November A Year Before and already Politico and others are reporting Wall Street having abandoned Obama for - well, let's face it, for Romney. So, what this does is presage a tsunami of news articles and pundit hand wringing over whether Romney, or Perry if we come to our senses, has been purchased as a wholly-owned by Wall Street. And if thought the recent OWS protests have been something, wait until summer 2012 - wall-to-wall OWS from San Diego to Kennebunkport.

196 Anddd .... the SCOAMF's green jobs magic touch goes on;

Truck Stop That Received Over $400,000 in Stimulus Funds Goes Bankrupt

The Tennessee Department of Transportation (TDOT) handed out the $424,000 Environmental Protection Agency stimulus grant for electrical hookups so that truckers wouldnÂ’t have to burn diesel fuel while resting. Both the state and EPA were apparently unaware that owner Rick Lewis had a history of legal and financial problems and had filed for bankruptcy.

197

The whole damn thing is crooked.

No, NO!

 

The deuce, you say!

198 Rex suck a cock.

199
nood post

200 Since this thread is getting all old and hippy smelly and I haven't had the chance yet to comment on the sidebar baby man story, I will now. WTF? That is all.

201 Our nine-member school board just passed, by 5-4, the OK for the new teachers contract.  Gave the a 4 percent raise in year one, then two more at 3.5 for years two and three.

As if, raises are necessary.

The crybabies now will have to pay for 10 percent of their health care insurance, in this new contract.  Zero to now.  Yeah, it's gold plated, with dental, health club memberships, and more.

The loudest voice from the dissenting side said he was against the raises because it would mean the schools would have to lay off teachers due to budgeting, out in future.

Pass this bill now!

I'm sick of this shit.

202 That fucking list is just more of the narrative setting the Dems have already broadcasted. They want to tie "wall street" to Romney or any other Repub nominee, so then these protestors can hate on em. They need hate, cause Obama sucks cock and noone has a reason to keep him in office.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 20, 2011 05:02 PM (B0ebt)

Different samples. Look.  You're screaming about the D's I am screaming about monied interests picking a RINO as our guy. 

I already noted that the numbers don't tell the whole story.  What they do seem to say is that these big banks want to choose Romney for us as our R nominee.  It's a different fight.

203 @ 172....Fannie and Fred were where Clinton placed all his folks including the Zelig of American Politics...Jamie Gorelick!

204 I think anyone with two brain cells to rub together realizes that the faggot wall street protestors are all Obama voting dipshits, who will vote for Obama at the same time he halls in Wall Street cash by the wheelbarrel full. Meanwhile they will call any Repub a "tool of Wall Street". I wouldnt mind so much if our press didn't hide the fact that the fucking assholes are socialist, communists, and jew hating Nazi's.

205 "I already noted that the numbers don't tell the whole story. What they do seem to say is that these big banks want to choose Romney for us as our R nominee. It's a different fight." I am saying that list is full of shit. I mean maybe I wasn't clear the first time. Fucking Washington Post came out with a story today of how Obama has raked in more Wall Street money from banks than any Repub nominee. Now your list has him pulling in bull and shit. Your list is wrong, and so are your numbers.

206 Now that the money has been repaid with interest, it still looks to me like a good deal in financial terms. Much cheaper than it would have been to let the banks fail.

Except that none if actually addressed the fraud induced problems the banks have. Compare the market capitilization of the major banks to their alleged asset value if you don't want to take my word for it.

Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2011 05:06 PM (sOXQX)

The larger picture is that in the implementation of TARP, connected interests got the taxpayer cash.  Seems that we have heard of another such instance of connected interests getting the taxpayer cash, where the government is choosing winners and losers.

Now, what was that?  I believe it started with an "S."

207 Now, what was that?  I believe it started with an "S."

Well, sure, as a political matter, the issue is friends of those in power got the easy money. Which in the latter case has now disappeared into the ether.

I just meant to respond to the incorrect assertion that TARP had practical (positive) effects.

208 209 "I already noted that the numbers don't tell the whole story. What they do seem to say is that these big banks want to choose Romney for us as our R nominee. It's a different fight."

I am saying that list is full of shit. I mean maybe I wasn't clear the first time. Fucking Washington Post came out with a story today of how Obama has raked in more Wall Street money from banks than any Repub nominee. Now your list has him pulling in bull and shit. Your list is wrong, and so are your numbers.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 20, 2011 05:14 PM (B0ebt)

They are not my numbers, and I have already acknowledge the weaknesses of the subset.

Just because some of us are able to distinguish between a list of bank donors and Wall Street as a whole (which might just include more than the banks listed), does not mean that we are pot-smoking, OWS-marching, SCOAMF-voting libtards.  

Give it a rest.  Your rage blinds you.

209 moki and exex....I'm a lurker, but will be praying for you both.

210 I just meant to respond to the incorrect assertion that TARP had practical (positive) effects.

Posted by: Methos at October 20, 2011 05:19 PM (sOXQX)

Yeah, sorry.  That response was more directed to your quote source. I am in the let it fail camp.

211 What good is rage if it doesn't blind you?

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Posted by: Mr Pink at October 20, 2011 05:41 PM (iRB4e)

Fair enough.

213 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

214 Director of the Fed? Is that some kind of unelected position? Hey!

Wasn't some 'candidate' a grand poobah somewhere in Kansas?

Audit the FED?

No.

Shut it down tear it down run it out of town on a rail still dripping tar and feathers.

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