July 25, 2011
— Ace Ugh. The timing makes me think he'll be asking networks to preempt programming for another campaign commercial. That is, a "major address." In which he says the same crap.
Although this time he'll be committing to a plan, I guess. Reid's plan, which he likes a lot, because it punts the question to January 2013, and it only costs the country a mere $2.5 trillion to placate Obama.
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BREAKING: Obama to introduce debt plan at 9pm.
CORRECTION: Obama to offer speech demonizing others' debt plans at 9pm.
Posted by: The Dude at July 25, 2011 12:39 PM (Ig1Wo)
Posted by: glowing blue meat at July 25, 2011 12:40 PM (K/USr)
Jesus Christ.
This man has been giving the same freaking speech for 2 weeks in the morning, now he's taking it to prime time.
At what point do the networks tell him know.
Is anyone willing to take bets on how many prime time speeches Obama has in September and October of 2012?
Will the media continue to give him all the free prime time he wants? Or at somepoint do they tell him to kiss off.
Posted by: Ben at July 25, 2011 12:40 PM (wuv1c)
Good thing I don't watch anything on Monday nights!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 25, 2011 12:40 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Darth Brooks at July 25, 2011 12:41 PM (FkKjr)
We are officially in Hugo Chavez territory.
I predict we will hear the following phrases:
corporate jets
school loans
some people want to (starve granny, not pay troops, cut off SS)
debt ceiling = credit rating (not true, of course)
I worked as hard as I could to reach compromise (a big, fat lie)
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 25, 2011 12:41 PM (Fo83G)
know = no.
sorry, so angry right now. We're getting stuck with a shit deal that has no real cuts and i'm also going have to listen to this asshole demonize us.
The only thing that could make my day better is if we liveblogged the speech tonight.
Posted by: Ben at July 25, 2011 12:41 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Penfold at July 25, 2011 12:42 PM (1PeEC)
Who else thinks this government will surprise us and find a way to blow through that $2.5 trillion before the 2012 election?
Posted by: Methos at July 25, 2011 12:42 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: The Dude at July 25, 2011 12:42 PM (Ig1Wo)
In fact, I blame Bush, err, the previous administration, for all this spending n'stuff.
Posted by: Barack Obama at July 25, 2011 12:42 PM (7BU4a)
Damn this is ridiculous...
Paul Ryan needs to make a major announcement demanding air time for a proposal that Congress wants to put forward. Either (A) he would get said airtime or (B) he would put pressure on the networks to stop giving Obama his free propaganda time...
Posted by: dan-O at July 25, 2011 12:42 PM (bRLuD)
Posted by: R. Budd Dwyer at July 25, 2011 12:42 PM (yZYHw)
Posted by: The Great and Secret Show at July 25, 2011 12:43 PM (PXQRF)
Posted by: Obama's Grandma at July 25, 2011 12:43 PM (GGEUV)
Scale of dragon; tooth of wolf;
Witches' mummy; maw and gulf
Of the ravin'd salt-sea shark;
Root of hemlock digg'd i the dark;
Liver of blaspheming Jew;
Gall of goat, and slips of yew
Sliver'd in the moon's eclipse;
Nose of Turk, and Tartar's lips;
Finger of birth-strangled babe
Ditch-deliver'd by a drab,—
Make the gruel thick and slab:
Add thereto a tiger's chaudron,
For the ingrediants of our caldron.
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.
Cool it with a baboon's blood,
Then the charm is firm and good.
Don't worry, 'Bammy. No man of woman born can defeat you.
Posted by: WalrusRex at July 25, 2011 12:43 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: cherry π at July 25, 2011 12:43 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 25, 2011 12:43 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Methos at July 25, 2011 04:42 PM (sOXQX)
considering the way we are going, I would be surprised if we go through it in a year as Democrats do need to ramp up buying votes
Posted by: The Dude at July 25, 2011 12:43 PM (Ig1Wo)
Posted by: The Alphabet Networks at July 25, 2011 12:43 PM (1+CnU)
Isn't there a point at which the interruptions/lectures start turning more people away from him?
Most Presidents have used the bully pulpit sparingly, since the more you use it, the less effective it gets.
Personally, I think this kind of crap is just going to harden the Republicans. Why would they want to compromise if they're being called out publically so much?
Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 25, 2011 12:44 PM (zgHLA)
Posted by: The Chicken at July 25, 2011 12:44 PM (WNzUA)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 25, 2011 12:44 PM (sVk8z)
Not as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: toby928 at July 25, 2011 12:44 PM (evdj2)
J. H. Christ on a cracker, haven't we seen and heard enough of this moron Commie piece of shit lately?
Fixed.
Posted by: ErikW at July 25, 2011 12:44 PM (uwUbR)
"The idea of doing things on my own is very tempting, I promise you, not just on immigration reform. But that's not how our system works. That's not how our democracy functions," Obama told the National Council of La Raza.
Speaking at the organization's annual conference in Washington, Obama said passing immigration reform measures will require support from both sides of the aisle in Congress.
"Let's be honest, I need a dance partner here, and the floor is empty," he said.
Audience members greeted Obama with a standing ovation, and responded to his discussion of immigration reform by chanting, "Yes you can, yes you can."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2011 12:45 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Dan at July 25, 2011 12:45 PM (mXBxH)
Posted by: The Donkey Show (will never use HTML under penalty of being hobo hunted) at July 25, 2011 12:45 PM (ijjAe)
Posted by: ChuckOH at July 25, 2011 12:46 PM (uM9Wf)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 25, 2011 12:46 PM (JqpkY)
Free Tami, '80sbaby and Chuck Z!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2011 12:46 PM (UOM48)
IOW, even a small number can be effective when they have the same principles. And the TPC's of 2010 are, thus far, keeping us in the game, even though there are only about 60 of them in the House.
Posted by: The Hammer at July 25, 2011 12:46 PM (M/OMt)
Posted by: t-bird at July 25, 2011 12:47 PM (FcR7P)
Corporate jerps!
Pay their fair sherp!
The American Peopl-erp!
Bond ownerps!
Retire-erps!
False choic-erps!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 25, 2011 12:48 PM (DEcmU)
And just imagine how much more powerful they'd be if they were backed up by the rest of their supposed allies.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 25, 2011 12:48 PM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at July 25, 2011 12:48 PM (C9YYo)
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at July 25, 2011 12:48 PM (5sCSm)
Most Presidents have used the bully pulpit sparingly, since the more you use it, the less effective it gets.
or like Reagan, the speeches are uplifting. No a daily 2 minutes of hate.
Posted by: Ben at July 25, 2011 12:48 PM (wuv1c)
"Obama speech. Is there anything it can't do?"
Based upon past history, oher than bore me to death, there does not seem to be anything it <i>can</i> do.
Posted by: West at July 25, 2011 12:49 PM (1Rgee)
I'd actually watch this on pay-per-view to see the meltdown.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2011 12:49 PM (UOM48)
- One for a douche product
- Another for penile implants
Posted by: Marcus at July 25, 2011 12:49 PM (Cw9u8)
Posted by: nevergiveup at July 25, 2011 12:49 PM (i6RpT)
Not another fucking speech! who hasn't got he message by now?
Corporate jets - bad
Balanced approach - good!
fair share - good!
let me be clear x 25 occurences minimum.
the people want compromise, like Reagan did.
Posted by: exceller at July 25, 2011 12:50 PM (jx2Td)
Stand strong, overseas traders! You have nothing to fear from this little weasel!
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 25, 2011 12:50 PM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Corporate Jet Owners at July 25, 2011 12:50 PM (n2K+4)
I just paid 3 months of late mortgage payments thanks to a loving father who is helping me get out of this mess. This shit stain makes my gut hurt. Should I watch the address for laughs or aversion therapy?
Posted by: Tommy Gunnarson at July 25, 2011 12:51 PM (ybA9f)
ughhh...so it's only Monday and I have to stop at the liquor store AGAIN ??? Good thing it's a pay week.
Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at July 25, 2011 12:51 PM (oW269)
He's BEEN losing it. His press conference on Friday is just letting the mask slip on exactly how badly he's losing it.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at July 25, 2011 12:51 PM (JqpkY)
Posted by: robviously at July 25, 2011 12:52 PM (2DD2m)
Posted by: The Great Oralator of Chicago at July 25, 2011 12:52 PM (FcR7P)
The 2.5 trillion is phony. It's not real. It's the same old shit of reduced expected outlays. It is not a REAL cut.
The House GOP better not fall for this shit. Call Boehner's office now.
Posted by: wtfci at July 25, 2011 12:52 PM (qITbz)
Posted by: left wing fluffy at July 25, 2011 12:52 PM (4Kl5M)
Posted by: History According to Obama at July 25, 2011 12:52 PM (iTHsS)
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at July 25, 2011 12:53 PM (5sCSm)
I am glad to do it, as I am sure your father was. My folks helped me when I was young. Just remember to help your own kids if they get in trouble.
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 25, 2011 12:53 PM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Rochelle, Rochelle at July 25, 2011 12:53 PM (mPxTr)
Posted by: Bosk at July 25, 2011 12:53 PM (n2K+4)
Lie back and think of the international markets.
Posted by: WalrusRex at July 25, 2011 12:53 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Dave at July 25, 2011 12:54 PM (Xm1aB)
He reached that point after the first month in office.
Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2011 12:54 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Marcus at July 25, 2011 12:54 PM (Cw9u8)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 25, 2011 12:55 PM (sVk8z)
Thus far, no one in DC seems to be giving a shit about what the ratings agencies have been saying and doing. Until one does, this is simply more of the same.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 25, 2011 12:55 PM (6rX0K)
Posted by: cherry π at July 25, 2011 12:55 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: left wing fluffy at July 25, 2011 04:52 PM (4Kl5M)
If the Chosen One is ever allowed to be make the thoughts generated by his once in a thousand generations intellect, our tiny brains will surely fail to comprehend his genius. Aneurysms will result.
Posted by: robviously at July 25, 2011 12:55 PM (2DD2m)
Obama won't stop fear mongering until there is a bad day in the world's markets. Then he'll say, "See? I told you this would happen."
Posted by: soothsayer at July 25, 2011 12:55 PM (sqkOB)
I'd actually watch this on pay-per-view to see the meltdown.
I concur.
However, we will likely get another 1/2 hour of TOTUS blathering about the usual.
/if Obama gives a lecture and doesn't blame Bush, did it really happen?
Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2011 12:55 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: tgs at July 25, 2011 12:56 PM (MV5kD)
Posted by: Jeff at July 25, 2011 12:56 PM (A3tpD)
Posted by: Waterhouse at July 25, 2011 12:56 PM (iTHsS)
Posted by: no good deed at July 25, 2011 12:56 PM (mjR67)
This calls for a drinking game. A shot for every time i hear "Now some people say..."
i will be dead by 9:07 PM
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 25, 2011 12:56 PM (M3mVf)
With the MFM willing to totally forget the other one he will recover.
Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2011 12:57 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Bosk at July 25, 2011 12:57 PM (n2K+4)
Posted by: Dave at July 25, 2011 12:58 PM (Xm1aB)
With the MFM willing to totally forget the other one he will recover.
Posted by: Vic
There's an interesting thought. Shuffle the deck and try again?
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 25, 2011 12:58 PM (6rX0K)
Posted by: 80sBaby, whose primary IP is banned at July 25, 2011 12:58 PM (fcAg8)
He's trying to copy the NFL owners.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at July 25, 2011 12:58 PM (JxMoP)
I'm not convinced anyone currently at the White House has any idea what acting Presidential is. These guys are the kings of terrible optics.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 25, 2011 12:59 PM (tqwMN)
Throw Michelle under the bus! Her big hips will stop it! And her face will kill any remaining passengers.
Posted by: Peter Pan at July 25, 2011 12:59 PM (STTZD)
Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2011 12:59 PM (QxSug)
Come on, people. When have I ever steered you wrong? Stimulus; Health Care Reform; Cash for Clunkers; Libya, all huge successes.
Posted by: Obama at July 25, 2011 12:59 PM (sqkOB)
Otherwise, I will be eating dinner and enjoying truthful conversation. Mendacity gives me indigestion.
Posted by: Marcus at July 25, 2011 12:59 PM (Cw9u8)
CSI to be preempted. Hannity to be preempted.
That third one is probably the reason for the 9:00 pm speech.
Posted by: Jack at July 25, 2011 12:59 PM (8IAHO)
Posted by: Jordan at July 25, 2011 01:00 PM (4z6KA)
It's his only hope.
Posted by: toby928™ at July 25, 2011 01:00 PM (evdj2)
Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2011 01:00 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Jack at July 25, 2011 01:00 PM (8IAHO)
Posted by: Drew in MO at July 25, 2011 01:00 PM (IB/+V)
Posted by: Dan at July 25, 2011 01:00 PM (mXBxH)
Posted by: TBinSTL at July 25, 2011 01:00 PM (1KpWh)
Posted by: God-Emperor Barky I the Munificent at July 25, 2011 01:00 PM (iTHsS)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 25, 2011 01:00 PM (sVk8z)
Posted by: nevergiveup at July 25, 2011 01:01 PM (i6RpT)
I have many leather bound books.
My office smells of rich mahogany and bean pies.
And I want to be on you.
Posted by: sifty at July 25, 2011 01:01 PM (ECjvn)
Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2011 01:01 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Alabaster Jones at July 25, 2011 01:01 PM (cNFJa)
No-no. A thousand times no. Too many Marines cause islands to capsize.
Posted by: Rep Hank Johnson at July 25, 2011 01:01 PM (84pE9)
Posted by: Rochelle, Rochelle at July 25, 2011 04:53 PM (mPxTr)
I like HGTV though, it gives me ideas for my imaginary house that I will own one day
Posted by: The Dude at July 25, 2011 01:01 PM (Ig1Wo)
Posted by: Kilista Johnson at July 25, 2011 01:01 PM (48wze)
Posted by: Jordan
Please share whatever it is you're smoking. If the 'cuts' don't take place during the current congress, then they are suggestions; nothing more. A future congress an ignore them. The smart money would bet on exactly that.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 25, 2011 01:02 PM (326rv)
Posted by: nevergiveup at July 25, 2011 01:02 PM (i6RpT)
Is your weird uncle still finding loose change in your ears?
Posted by: Buzzsaw at July 25, 2011 01:02 PM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: cherry π at July 25, 2011 01:02 PM (OhYCU)
its not even style over substance anymore, its just 24/7 bullshit
Posted by: tgs at July 25, 2011 04:56 PM (MV5kD)
This is what an 8 year old does when they don't get their way.
They run to Mom, Dad, Mama, Papa anyone who they think might say yes but they won't because they know the child is trying to get away with something.
Posted by: ErikW at July 25, 2011 01:02 PM (uwUbR)
These college kids today could sure have a drunken blast playing "Drink!" with these fun-filled favorites.
Posted by: Lady in Black at July 25, 2011 01:03 PM (EIlEQ)
Posted by: nevergiveup at July 25, 2011 01:03 PM (i6RpT)
Who else thinks this government will surprise us and find a way to blow through that $2.5 trillion before the 2012 election?
Posted by: Methos
Consider my hand raised.
Posted by: Dianna at July 25, 2011 01:03 PM (AKgx6)
I would only watch him if I knew he'd be rolling around on the floor screaming "I won, I won, I won, I won" over and over again. That would be worth seeing. Or if I knew this would be the press conference where the alien finally unzipped its human suit and stepped out to announce its plans for subjugating earth.
Posted by: ParanoidLaundryGirlinSeattle at July 25, 2011 01:03 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: no good deed at July 25, 2011 01:04 PM (mjR67)
Posted by: Jordan at July 25, 2011 05:00 PM (4z6KA)
You are a new classification entirely.
I can't describe you accurately here because some of the women reading may want to give birth at some point in the future.
Posted by: sifty at July 25, 2011 01:04 PM (ECjvn)
Posted by: not neo just conservative at July 25, 2011 01:04 PM (01RS2)
Posted by: ParanoidLaundryGirlinSeattle at July 25, 2011 05:03 PM (RZ8pf)
David Icke is amused
Posted by: The Dude at July 25, 2011 01:04 PM (Ig1Wo)
I'm not convinced anyone currently at the White House has any idea what acting Presidential is. These guys are the kings of terrible optics.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 25, 2011 04:59 PM (tqwMN)
Obama is the product of affirmative action/self-esteem education. Everything he has ever done has been praised as if it were golden because to do otherwise is to risk accusations of racism or negatively affect his self-esteem. Now he is face-to-face with reality and he doesn't like it but doesn't know what to do about it. Good thing the MBM is still in affirmative action/self-esteem mode.
Posted by: WalrusRex at July 25, 2011 01:04 PM (Hx5uv)
The budget will be the last thing on anyone's mind.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 25, 2011 01:04 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: nevergiveup at July 25, 2011 01:05 PM (i6RpT)
And we get to burn for it because not one of them has the balls to suffer a little bad press. Fuck me. Give me any one of these lying, cheating, weasel bastard's wealth and I'd be wearing out microphones going after the Dems. They couldn't get me off the floor.
But no, these fuckers, who could live the rest of their lives in relative ease on the wealth they've accumulated can't be bothered to do one damn thing right--and we, who struggle to pay our bills, who bust our ass every day, have to suffer and pay for soothing the ego of that crying bitch.
Posted by: Jimmuy at July 25, 2011 01:05 PM (sFOv5)
Posted by: Jordan at July 25, 2011 01:06 PM (4z6KA)
Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2011 01:06 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Kgeorge Donikon at July 25, 2011 01:06 PM (48wze)
Posted by: The Donkey Show (will never use HTML under penalty of being hobo hunted) at July 25, 2011 01:06 PM (ijjAe)
Posted by: Dave at July 25, 2011 01:08 PM (Xm1aB)
Oh man, I am so ready to be persuaded by the god-kings, god like oratory.
See it's because we don't understand what he's been saying because we don't possess his amazing intellect. This time he promises to use sock puppets to explain his points. And maybe a catchy tune.
Posted by: ParanoidLaundryGirlinSeattle at July 25, 2011 01:08 PM (RZ8pf)
Just want to CnP something Erickson put up. This is an e-mail he got from someone who was briefed on the Boehner deal:
On background if you would please, just left the meeting on the Boehner deal.
Some highlights:
Outlay reduction for FY 12 – $25 billion cut in discretionary spending. Debt limit increase right away – $1 trillion Does not touch Obamacare funding, Medicare or Social Security Includes the McConnell automatic increase without a vote – they tried to sell us on “your boss isn’t actually voting for a debt limit increase” Joint Select Cmte Created – 12 Members, if Commission recs pass on entitlement reform, then Pres gets another debt limit increase Budget Authority in FY 12 is $ 7 billion less than FY 11 in discretionary spendingThat, my friends, sucks.
Posted by: Rich at July 25, 2011 01:08 PM (OX4OZ)
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 25, 2011 01:09 PM (/0tpc)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at July 25, 2011 01:09 PM (wV0ZB)
This retard is going to drive us right off the cliff.
There's no escape. It was preordained when he piled the useless stimulus on top of our already unsustainable debt.
We're going to sink into a world wide depression by 2013 if not earlier.
This is the price, America. Hope your white guilt is assuaged. That's all you got out of the deal--the greatest country in the world brought low by a malevolent, narcissistic, affirmative action man-child who never did an honest day of work in his life.
A joke. A sham. A bitter racist fuck who hates you, your history, your culture, your wealth, and your success.
Tell your kids what a nice country it used to be, you fucking cretinous 52%.
Posted by: Warden at July 25, 2011 01:09 PM (RTe1i)
Posted by: sifty at July 25, 2011 01:09 PM (ECjvn)
Posted by: Soona at July 25, 2011 01:09 PM (Bbn7l)
Posted by: cherry π at July 25, 2011 01:10 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2011 01:10 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Jordan
Please disregard my earlier request; you're smokin toilet paper tubes soaked in the Ti-d-bowl man's secret sauce.
The only cuts we HAVe heard about are from the military. Closing loopholes is another way to avoid going after items 1-3: SS Medicare and Medicaid. And yes you are right in that these are tax increases. The problem is NOT that the poor federal government has been starved. it is being consumed and transformed.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 25, 2011 01:10 PM (326rv)
Paul Ryan needs to make a major announcement demanding air time for a proposal that Congress wants to put forward. Either (A) he would get said airtime or (B) he would put pressure on the networks to stop giving Obama his free propaganda time...
Posted by: dan-O at July 25, 2011 04:42 PM
And he should call it the Fairness Doctrine.
Posted by: arhooley at July 25, 2011 01:10 PM (qeaSR)
Posted by: cherry π at July 25, 2011 01:11 PM (OhYCU)
Obama can't win an argument because he's never actually had to make an argument in his entire life ... he was always surrounded by yes men/women who didn't need convincing ...
He simply doesn't have the skills to moderate his words to appeal to the other side ... he never has ...
This will be yet another "blame XYZ" speech which will sink his polls even further ... we are witnessing an man falling apart as his worldview comes apart in front of him ...
Let him go on TV everynight for the next week ... he thinks he can change peoples mind with a speech, he always has ... but reality doesn't respond to speeches ...
Posted by: Jeff at July 25, 2011 01:11 PM (A3tpD)
Posted by: Bryan Caskey at July 25, 2011 01:11 PM (RCwVo)
The guys get shirts.
Ladies? Well, you get me.
Posted by: Lone Wolf McBluffy at July 25, 2011 01:11 PM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: cherry π at July 25, 2011 01:11 PM (OhYCU)
The GOP ought to file a complaint with the FEC against the Democrats for accepting an in-kind campaign contribution from the TV networks that plan to show this speech.
Posted by: OregonMuse at July 25, 2011 01:11 PM (IRtnE)
Remember how the Tea Party was behind the Giffords shootings?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 25, 2011 01:11 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: cthulhu at July 25, 2011 01:12 PM (kaalw)
Howard Fineman just said that he sees a "slow motion succession"
That's funny because I see a slow-motion funeral procession.
btw, Fineman cracks me up. He's such a dolt but he and Matthews make an excellent pair of court jesters.
Posted by: soothsayer at July 25, 2011 01:12 PM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Southeners not at ALL curious about welcoming the NE'ers at July 25, 2011 01:12 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 25, 2011 05:09 PM (G/MYk)
I want to see a campaign commercial would be 30 seconds of different clips of the Empty Suit saying "corporate jet owners" over and over again. It's eminently mockable
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 25, 2011 01:12 PM (/0tpc)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at July 25, 2011 01:13 PM (cbyrC)
This will not go over well. Sure, the MFM is in and will get a fine rundown of talking points to transcribe, but reality hits harder than rhetoric. Obama's riding corporate jet owners harder than The Chicken, and voters, while often ignorant, are not that stupid anymore. When Obamanomics hits you or someone you know (and it's hitting everyone not a D.C. pol), then the bloom is off the rose. Obama can shovel all the sh!t he wants... the public isn't buying.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 25, 2011 01:13 PM (r4t7/)
Posted by: cherry π at July 25, 2011 01:14 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at July 25, 2011 01:14 PM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel
Sadly, this and campaigning are all he knows how to do. And in truth, he has fooled some of the people some of the time.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 25, 2011 01:14 PM (326rv)
Posted by: tsj017 at July 25, 2011 01:14 PM (4YUWF)
Posted by: a podiatrist at July 25, 2011 01:14 PM (ndlFj)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 25, 2011 01:15 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2011 01:15 PM (QxSug)
Is there a magic number of speeches he'll reach before the sound of glass shattering from TVs will roll across the nation, finally drowning out the whining and complaining? Is this how he plans to "stimulate" the economy -- by boosting sales of TVs being replaced?
Jesus Christ, I don't even need to hear him anymore; all I need to see is his "stern face" expression and I want to scream.
Posted by: Biblio at July 25, 2011 01:16 PM (LNe4F)
Tell your kids what a nice country it used to be, you fucking cretinous 52%.
Posted by: Warden at July 25, 2011 05:09 PM (RTe1i)
Epic rant, Warden. A thing of beauty.
Posted by: Ombudsman at July 25, 2011 01:16 PM (/0tpc)
157 Just want to CnP something Erickson put up. This is an e-mail he got from someone who was briefed on the Boehner deal:
[...]
What does he mean by automatic increase without a vote? If you vote for Boehner's plan, you're voting to increase the debt limit in exchange for x, y, and z, simple as that. I would also take anything Erickson and his sources say with a grain of salt. EE wants only CCB and CCB alone, and he's going to find as many discontented sources (and their slants) as possible. Though we also have the fact that the new Boehner plan isn't going to pass the Senate, so the more important issue is what the House Rs choose to do from there.
Posted by: 80sBaby, whose primary IP is banned at July 25, 2011 01:16 PM (fcAg8)
A. Petulant
B. Angry
C. Whiny
D. All of the above
You forgot sactimonius
Posted by: Donna at July 25, 2011 01:16 PM (Ls56Y)
Posted by: FDR'Obama at July 25, 2011 01:16 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: tsj017 at July 25, 2011 01:16 PM (4YUWF)
As an open-minded, responsible citizen, I very much look forward to listening to what President Obama has to say about this important issue. The result of this conflict in Washington will not only have short-term effects but will also carry far-reaching, long-term consequences that will affect our nation for several decades to come.
Posted by: FireHorse at July 25, 2011 01:16 PM (gTGz3)
It will have more depth and honesty than anything Precedent Princess Pullups will have to say.
Posted by: clp at July 25, 2011 01:17 PM (E0wHJ)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at July 25, 2011 01:17 PM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: sifty at July 25, 2011 01:17 PM (ECjvn)
202: As an open-minded, responsible citizen, I very much look forward to listening to what President Obama has to say about this important issue. The result of this conflict in Washington will not only have short-term effects but will also carry far-reaching, long-term consequences that will affect our nation for several decades to come.
Never mind. "Switched at Birth" is on tonight at 9.
Posted by: FireHorse at July 25, 2011 01:17 PM (gTGz3)
Posted by: t-bird at July 25, 2011 01:17 PM (FcR7P)
So Boner is telling us one thing speaking to the press then doing something else behind our backs???
Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2011 01:17 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: tsj017 at July 25, 2011 01:18 PM (4YUWF)
"Trichet and IMF, please report to the bus encounter point."
Posted by: cthulhu at July 25, 2011 01:18 PM (kaalw)
I'm at the point where I want August 2 to go by and call the JEF's bluff. SS checks will still go out; etc. Kind of like what's happening in WI right now. Law passed, no teachergeddon.
Do it on a national scale!
Posted by: Biblio at July 25, 2011 01:18 PM (LNe4F)
Posted by: Jordan at July 25, 2011 01:18 PM (4z6KA)
#149
Did you get your welfare check today sir? Are you getting sufficient food stamps? Is your rent subsidized house to your liking.
We at the politboro are here to distribute the wealth in accordance with your desires.
As for the evil capitalist, running dogs of wall street who cling to their guns and religion, we unfortunately need them to produce so people like you can think brillant thoughts.
I look forward to Obama speeches in the same way I look forward to a visit of my proctologist Dr. Hook.
Posted by: Molon Labe at July 25, 2011 01:18 PM (g5MrG)
I'm hoping for the Spock goatee.
Posted by: Waterhouse at July 25, 2011 01:19 PM (iTHsS)
Posted by: tsj017 at July 25, 2011 01:19 PM (4YUWF)
Posted by: Dave at July 25, 2011 01:20 PM (Xm1aB)
This is not about me. This is about 79 year old Mabel in Albuquerque. She relies on her Social Security check to make ends meet each month.
Posted by: Obama at July 25, 2011 01:20 PM (sqkOB)
You'll have to check with Vic for permission.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 25, 2011 01:20 PM (LH6ir)
I'd buy the PPV where the Undertaker tombstoned the fuck out of Pelosi and Reid. You'd clear the national debt in one quick hurry if Joe Public could see his congresscritter in a figure-four leglock once a quarter.
Posted by: clp at July 25, 2011 01:20 PM (E0wHJ)
You'd go that high?
Posted by: Ian S. at July 25, 2011 01:20 PM (tqwMN)
Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2011 01:20 PM (QxSug)
This is about Zetuni Serwhatever. Zetuni is a political refugee from Africa...and a campaign donor.
Posted by: Obama at July 25, 2011 01:21 PM (sqkOB)
What does he mean by automatic increase without a vote? If you vote for Boehner's plan, you're voting to increase the debt limit in exchange for x, y, and z, simple as that. I would also take anything Erickson and his sources say with a grain of salt. EE wants only CCB and CCB alone, and he's going to find as many discontented sources (and their slants) as possible. Though we also have the fact that the new Boehner plan isn't going to pass the Senate, so the more important issue is what the House Rs choose to do from there.
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25 billion in fiscal year 2012 cuts...now does that seem even close to worth it? After all of this, THAT'S what we get? Because, make no mistake, all of the rest of it is total BS. There will be no additional 1 trillion in cuts 10 years from now. There will be nothing grand that comes from this committee, as there never is from any of these committees. So we just fought for over a month for....25 billion. So awesome.
Posted by: Rich at July 25, 2011 01:21 PM (OX4OZ)
Posted by: Jordan at July 25, 2011 05:19 PM (4z6KA)
That's alright. Most of us can't get past how fuckin stupid you are to notice the grammar.
Posted by: sifty at July 25, 2011 01:22 PM (ECjvn)
I left for vacation a week ago and purposely didn't follow any news. I was struck by a TEEVEE comment in a bar that said "Obama smart to lead without a plan". I looked at the other guy in the bar and we both shook our heads. Not only do we need a real adult in the WH, but we absolutely need some adults in the media news rooms.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at July 25, 2011 05:17 PM (0M3AQ)
I just got back late yesterday and thought it was a joke that he's doing the Big Brother network takeover my first day back. What a dick. (And that's a quote from a liberal, so I shouldn't get admonished for saying it.)
Posted by: Biblio at July 25, 2011 01:22 PM (LNe4F)
I won't be watching. I've never watched.
Why should I subject myself to an anti American asshole spewing his anti American sewage?
I'm not going to gain any insight into his character and I sure as hell ain't going to give him the sympathy he's looking for.
Cocksucker.
Posted by: ErikW at July 25, 2011 01:22 PM (uwUbR)
Posted by: toby928™ at July 25, 2011 01:22 PM (evdj2)
Fine. We'll feed Mabel.
But Mabel's kids are out of luck. Let's not pretend that there is any other choice. If we keep thinking silly pretty thoughts, Warden's rant up-thread will be a model of optimism and Pollyanna-ish thinking.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 25, 2011 01:22 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Jordan
You're still not getting it. The Dems haven't been denied input. They didn't bother to even submit a fucking budget last year. Fuck deals. We have to change what we are doing. Drastically. All of the PIIGS were 'doing deals'. Look at where they are now.We have been kicking the can down the rood for over thirty years. We cannot sustain this, and we cannot draw still more out of what's left of our economy.
Deals exist only to give the false impression that the people in charge are 'doing something'. Again, the EU and thePIIGS have been doing these stunts for years. They're failing.
Posted by: Blue Hen at July 25, 2011 01:23 PM (326rv)
But don't forget this gem from a few days ago because it says it all.
We have had, in the past 30 years, 17 deficit commissions. After almost each one, taxes have gone up, but the spending cuts have never happened.
Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2011 01:24 PM (M9Ie6)
So Boner is telling us one thing speaking to the press then doing something else behind our backs???
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He's doing exactly what they did with the budget fight earlier in the year. Tells us he's cutting 30 whatever billion. Technically, it's true. It's just that most of it was smoke and mirrors that came from things like future budget outlays that were never going to be spent in the first place.
Posted by: Rich at July 25, 2011 01:24 PM (OX4OZ)
He is a FAR better liar than Bill Clinton.
The lesson from this is that no matter what, always appear calm and everyone will think you know what the hell you are doing. I call it the Jean Luc Picard Rule. When Beverly Crusher was able to read his mind she realized that despite Picard's cool, in-charge demeanor, he really had no idea what to do and was making it up as he went along.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at July 25, 2011 01:24 PM (uVlA4)
Posted by: mpfs at July 25, 2011 01:25 PM (pn1FS)
Oh, and lol at yet ANOTHER deficit commission. We just had one of those, remember? How'd that work out. All of these ideas and nobody adopts one. Now who here thinks this one will be any different?
Posted by: Rich at July 25, 2011 01:25 PM (OX4OZ)
Posted by: tsj017 at July 25, 2011 05:16 PM (4YUWF)
Don't worry, we'll fuck it up.
Posted by: Republican Primary Voter at July 25, 2011 01:26 PM (/0tpc)
Though we also have the fact that the new Boehner plan isn't going to pass the Senate, so the more important issue is what the House Rs choose to do from there.
Wait a few days, eight to be exact, before they do anything more.
Posted by: Soona at July 25, 2011 01:26 PM (Bbn7l)
Posted by: Dave at July 25, 2011 01:26 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 25, 2011 05:20 PM (LH6ir)
They will have to bring proof of voting record and agree to a 40 hour course in "how to think and act conservative".
That followed by another 40 hour course about "do not think about screwing us up as bad as you were".
Posted by: Vic at July 25, 2011 01:26 PM (M9Ie6)
Voting for Boehner's plan means you're voting to increase the debt limit, since it says you will raise the debt ceiling around $1T (until April) if he does x, y, and z.
Posted by: 80sBaby, whose primary IP is banned at July 25, 2011 01:27 PM (fcAg8)
Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2011 01:27 PM (QxSug)
Will he be at the altar in his wedding dress?
Posted by: The Schwalbe : © at July 25, 2011 01:28 PM (UU0OF)
Posted by: Jordan at July 25, 2011 01:28 PM (4z6KA)
Posted by: Dave at July 25, 2011 01:29 PM (Xm1aB)
the latest RedEye tweet:
NO new #REDEYE tonight. Bumped due to President Obama addressing the nation Monday night at 9. #fb
Commence bitching. I know I already have.
Posted by: rockhead at July 25, 2011 01:29 PM (ZMHGo)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at July 25, 2011 01:29 PM (0M3AQ)
And 80sbaby, I'm going to go on record (not that anyone cares) and say if Boehner's plan makes it through the House, then it will, at the very last minute, pass the Senate and be put infront of O. They'll say no right up untill August 2, though.
Posted by: Rich at July 25, 2011 01:29 PM (OX4OZ)
This is great news for Depends commercials. People will be glued to set watching them rather than having to suffer through another pathological bout of sanctimonious pouting and babbling in front of La Raza, the Russian politboro, and Hamas ruling Congress about the evils of having to follow the Constitution.
Posted by: Molon Labe at July 25, 2011 01:30 PM (g5MrG)
Both bullent points and explanations as to what the House would be doing:
Posted by: 80sBaby, whose primary IP is banned at July 25, 2011 01:30 PM (fcAg8)
WTF Fox? Like you don't have 23 other hours in which Shep et al can speculate and drone on endlessly about what it all means?
Posted by: rockhead at July 25, 2011 01:31 PM (ZMHGo)
Reid doesn't want to take another vote before the '12 elections. If he gets desperate enough, he'll do what you say, but it depends on what transpires between then and now.
Posted by: 80sBaby, whose primary IP is banned at July 25, 2011 01:32 PM (fcAg8)
Posted by: CoolCzech at July 25, 2011 01:33 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: King Barry, Jack of Shit at July 25, 2011 01:34 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Rich at July 25, 2011 01:35 PM (OX4OZ)
Posted by: H Badger at July 25, 2011 01:36 PM (U1PU6)
Posted by: sifty at July 25, 2011 01:37 PM (ECjvn)
Posted by: joeindc44 at July 25, 2011 01:39 PM (QxSug)
Let him go on TV everynight for the next week ... he thinks he can change peoples mind with a speech, he always has ... but reality doesn't respond to speeches ...
Posted by: Jeff at July 25, 2011 05:11 PM (A3tpD)
I'm not so sure. He said/did the following things and was still elected by an electrified whole bunch of people: "57 states, your utility bill will necessarily skyrocket, Spanish should be taught as not a second language, but a first, putting air in your tires will super-duperly manage all fuel woes, and giving the finger to both Hillary and McCain. And he still was elected...
Posted by: express at July 25, 2011 01:44 PM (TN7KL)
Posted by: ErikW at July 25, 2011 01:44 PM (uwUbR)
Posted by: backhoe at July 25, 2011 01:45 PM (0bk6W)
Exactly. It's part of the Incumbency Protection Act. Notice how much is done without public oversight and review. You have a handful of people in a room with phones to the Executive. Even then, should the members agree on a bill, the law will create yet another unelected, unaccountable commission that hides responsibility.
Here's the plan: Do nothing. The ceiling imposes its designed restraint and the Feds (and by extension, recipients of redistributive wealth however manifested) are forced into responsibility. Just walk away and say, "We have law already in place and we're following the law now because previous Congresses and Executives kept rewriting it irresponsibly. We're now having to be adults."
How many times do we have to be held hostage by the political class to realize the insanity of this recurring dereliction?
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 25, 2011 01:48 PM (r4t7/)
Posted by: The Schwalbe : © at July 25, 2011 01:50 PM (UU0OF)
/what do you mean Democrats aren't patriotic and won't perform for free? Michael Moore says they are!
Posted by: shibumi at July 25, 2011 01:52 PM (z63Tr)
IÂ’m going to be watching ANYTHING other than Obama at 9 p.m.
Posted by: MCPO Airdale at July 25, 2011 01:53 PM (FAyWo)
192 Will tonight's tone be:
A. Petulant
B. Angry
C. Whiny
D. All of the above
F. Douchebagadoucious
Posted by: Krazy Kat at July 25, 2011 02:00 PM (A23u6)
Posted by: Larry Dickman at July 25, 2011 02:01 PM (O0Wa5)
Posted by: CMU VET at July 25, 2011 02:02 PM (mmps/)
Posted by: Larry Dickman at July 25, 2011 02:06 PM (O0Wa5)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at July 25, 2011 02:19 PM (f8XyF)
He thinks he is THE expert. I think he's full of prunes.
I am waiting to hear what Boehner says.
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 25, 2011 02:42 PM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Cooter at July 25, 2011 02:50 PM (C06Qq)
This is so irresponsible I don't know what to say.
Posted by: Miss Marple at July 25, 2011 02:58 PM (Fo83G)
Posted by: weew at July 25, 2011 03:20 PM (7RbIF)
Not looking forward to another lecture from Professor Obama. Another preening speech about how he's above it all like Jesus, if only those nasty democrats and republicans could accede to his very reasonable position.
It's shocking to me that about 40% of the population still approves of this condescending dolt.
Posted by: Palandine at July 25, 2011 03:35 PM (g7D8V)
I would watch it but I have more pressing matters. I have to rebraid my butt hairs. We all know its going to be blah blah me I (Royal) WE. blah evil republicans blah blah blah its all W's fault. ME I Royal WE. Republicans are playing politics. I did all I can Evil rich.
Posted by: Coldwarrior57 at July 25, 2011 03:39 PM (nYTrG)
Posted by: Death by China Audiobook at July 25, 2011 05:55 PM (pCDVI)
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