August 10, 2011

Oh, say, can you see, by the DOOM's early light...
— Monty

DOOOOM

Victor Davis Hanson on the paralytic western society.

We seem able to admit that massive federal and state entitlements have created a sense of dependency, a loss of self-respect and initiative, and a breakdown of the family, yet we still seem to fear that trimming the subsidies would lead to some sort of cold-turkey hyper-reaction. We assume that society is to blame for disaffected youth and therefore are hesitant to use commensurate force to quell the violence or even to make it clear that perpetrators are responsible for their own conduct. Yet at some point — when the violence reaches middle-class communities or, in serial fashion, downtown or suburban stores — we likewise assume that sufficient force will be used. Sociological exegesis will go out the window. Reality has a way of dispelling such cognitive luxuries.
Reality always wins. Always.

The Brits are discovering the truth of Dr. Hanson's words as we speak.

The economics of riots.

Public-sector workers are slowly and painfully coming to realize that the times, they are a-changin'.

I am often accused of being overly pessimistic about our future (both financially and socially), but it's just a matter of looking at the numbers, and the attitudes and behaviors of the voters in this country. The worst-case scenario is the most likely one.

You gotta love James Galbraith -- heÂ’s an idiot in fair weather and in foul. A veritable Mount Everest made of pure stupid. This may be the best comedy bit you'll read all day.

The Japanese demographic collapse has been the talk of bond markets for almost twenty years now. Everyone keeps predicting doom for Japan has it's debt-to-GDP rises above 200%, yet somehow Japan keeps avoiding the headsman's axe. How can this happen? The answer is that the Japanese people themselves buy most Japanese debt...but Japan is greying, and all those savers are going to be drawing down their savings as they get old. When Japan has to go to the international markets to roll their debt, they are in for a world of hurt.

I've been saying it for years: Democrats will die on the entitlement hill. Harry Reid's picks for the so-called "super committee" make this abundantly clear. By picking hard-core leftist ideologues (Murray) and statist harness-bulls (Kerry), Reid is signalling that he intends no movement at all on the entitlement front. If any reforms to entitlements are to come, the GOP is going to have to force the issue. And it's not clear to me that the GOP has the will or the ability to do so.

The Euro project will fail because “Europe” is not a nation. It never has been, and it probably never will be. If political union is forced on the people by fiat, it will fail; and the denouement will be a bloody one.

Medicare vs private insurance. Predictably, medicare loses.

Fed: The economy's gonna suck for at least two more years. Embrace the suck.

The stock market recovered a lot of ground in yesterday's trading as panic-selling reversed and sheepish investors got back in.

Once again, and as usual, California screws themselves. But L.A. refuses to go quietly; the broke municipality recently approved plans for a new $1B NFL stadium. For a team they don't have yet. Budgets are for suckers!

BofA sells a bunch of shit to Fannie to go with Fannie's already-comprehensive shit-collection. And the cool thing? We get to pay for it! Yay!

UPDATE 1: Hey, it's not all DOOM up in here. The unions took a giant shot in the nuts in Wisconsin last night, so that's something to celebrate.

UPDATE 2: Spending yourself rich didn't work, after all. But...but...all the smart people said it would work!

UPDATE 3: Doubling down on zero.

This is what a central bank does when it wants to appear to do something to help the economy but has already fired most of its ammunition.

UPDATE 4: Via slublog -- Fear the Fed!
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Posted by: Monty at 04:35 AM | Comments (376)
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1
MOOD!

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 10, 2011 04:38 AM (NdWo2)

2 Oh well, at least our women still have boobs!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 04:41 AM (kUaEF)

3 That cat looks like he'd be a mean drunk.

Posted by: hobbes at August 10, 2011 04:41 AM (LmOsD)

4 I didn't know Rosie O'Donnell was orange...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 04:41 AM (kUaEF)

5 That cat looks like he'd be a mean drunk. Posted by: hobbes at August 10, 2011 08:41 AM (LmOsD) We have 3 cats and in general cats don't really like to swim. But one of our cats likes to put his head under the faucet, go figure

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 10, 2011 04:45 AM (i6RpT)

6

The economics of riots.

That is something everyone should inherently know. Poverty has nothing to do with riots. Whaether or not rioters are punished has a LOT to do with it. The Londoners know that rioters will not be punished because they have seen decades of football hooligans getting off.

We have started seeing the same thing here with the commies and anarchists whenever we have a "G" meeting here.

The corrupt Mayors of the democommie urban centers should take note of that.

Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2011 04:47 AM (M9Ie6)

7 It almost seems as if liberals have no understanding that Western institutions and culture which they endlessly deride have anything to do with social cohesion or the West's economic output. Or they do and they want to destroy it anyway.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 10, 2011 04:48 AM (zQ7FA)

8 The corrupt Mayors of the democommie urban centers should take note of that. Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2011 08:47 AM (M9Ie6) See I would not shoot to kill, but I damn well would shoot to cripple

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 10, 2011 04:49 AM (i6RpT)

9 I think the intersection of riots and economics is, Kids riot when they are bored and morally corrupt. The Welfare State is the breeding ground for Riot.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 04:49 AM (kUaEF)

10 7 It almost seems as if liberals have no understanding that Western institutions and culture which they endlessly deride have anything to do with social cohesion or the West's economic output. Or they do and they want to destroy it anyway. Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 10, 2011 08:48 AM (zQ7FA) In a nutshell, the way they see it, Western = BAD.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 04:50 AM (kUaEF)

11 LA council approves framework deal for NFL venue

Good Lord are they really that stupid? Or maybe they know something we don't know about federal bailouts.

Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2011 04:50 AM (M9Ie6)

12 Ask not for whom the DOOM tolls, it tolls for thee.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 10, 2011 04:50 AM (O/onO)

13 The irony about Lefties is that they claim to respect and tolerate and just love, love, LOVE every culture in the world... except ours.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 04:50 AM (kUaEF)

14 That is one unhappy pussycat.

Posted by: Sock Puppet Du Jour at August 10, 2011 04:51 AM (KelWf)

15 See I would not shoot to kill, but I damn well would shoot to cripple

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 10, 2011 08:49 AM (i6RpT)

First law of shooting; If you pull a gun shoot, and ALWAYS shoot to kill.

Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2011 04:52 AM (M9Ie6)

16 And that cat is not a happy camper.

Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2011 04:52 AM (M9Ie6)

17
No More Pay & Pensions For 'Public Service.'
End it now.

brb...

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 10, 2011 04:52 AM (NdWo2)

18 caltrops is the answer to riots.

Easy to spread, cheap and easy to clean up (magnets).

No one dies and it's hard to lug a lcd tv down the street with a bleeding foot (or two).

Posted by: Sock Puppet Du Jour at August 10, 2011 04:53 AM (KelWf)

19 Easy to spread, cheap and easy to clean up (magnets).

Easy to defeat also with steel inserts in the soles. Most safety shoes have these now.

Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2011 04:55 AM (M9Ie6)

20 Well our culture and institutions have been the fertile soil in which the Western worlds economic growth occurred. Once you destroy that, ie work ethic, civic responsibility, patriotism, self-reliance; where are you going to get the growth? I mean you don't see those British idiots rioting for less regulations so they can start a business do you? Or less taxation. They are rioting to steal, or to make the government take other peoples property and give it to them.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 10, 2011 04:56 AM (zQ7FA)

21
Gardner, MA

"A week ago, when only three people had taken out nomination papers for three positions on the School Committee, Mayor Mark P. Hawke suggested to the City Council it was time for a raise. Yesterday he suggested more than tripling the pay.

The current pay of the School Committee is $1,500. It is higher than in most other communities in northern Worcester County. The mayor said he has suggested it go up to $5,000.

“I suggested $5,000 as a starting point for discussion,” Mr. Hawke said.

The mayor said the six-member School Committee has not received a raise in many years, and that may be putting off people considering taking on a job that means many nights working at regular and subcommittee meetings."

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 10, 2011 04:58 AM (NdWo2)

22 When I was qualifying with the M-9 and the M-16 I rode to the range with MA in charge. He was my patient. So we all get there and he gave a long lecture on safety and also said NO HEAD SHOTS. Any one getting a head shot is gonna get kicked off the range. So after I qualified and was riding back with him, I said to him "Ta know I had a head shot". He sayed " Yeah Doc we saw, but we didn't think you meant it"

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 10, 2011 04:59 AM (i6RpT)

23 Maybe that's the real reason Alinsky dedicated his book to Satan. Everything he wanted to do would end up destroying Western civilization, or at least turning it into a cesspool of commonplace riots and an economy in the shitter. Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at August 10, 2011 05:00 AM (zQ7FA)

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:01 AM (k1rwm)

25 Easy to defeat also with steel inserts in the soles. Most safety shoes have these now.

Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2011 08:55 AM (M9Ie6)

My guess is most rioters wouldn't think of that.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 10, 2011 05:01 AM (FkKjr)

26
oh no, dow futures down more than 200

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 10, 2011 05:01 AM (NdWo2)

27
Don't fall for this sucker's rally.

the DJIA is going below 10K.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 10, 2011 05:01 AM (NdWo2)

28 Posted by: Soothsayer at August 10, 2011 08:58 AM (NdWo2)

Poor Gardner.  Even when it's mentioned on the internet it's still dull.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 10, 2011 05:03 AM (FkKjr)

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Posted by: The Accident Audio Book at August 10, 2011 05:03 AM (DhB/L)

30

" Yeah Doc we saw, but we didn't think you meant it"

You need a warning sign for your house/yard. "Armed and willing to keep shooting again and again til I get it right."

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 10, 2011 05:03 AM (XdlcF)

31 Since this is a doom thread I guess we should mention the GREAT Mariano Rivera has blown 2 saves in a row. The world is certainly about to come off it's axis. We Yankees fan know that will be the final sign that the world as we know it is ending if Rivera can't do the job anymore.

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 10, 2011 05:04 AM (i6RpT)

32 Patty Murray and John Kerry.  Not only ideologically opposed to real solutions, but also profoundly stupid.

Posted by: gp at August 10, 2011 05:04 AM (B9rV2)

33 15 See I would not shoot to kill, but I damn well would shoot to cripple Posted by: nevergiveup at August 10, 2011 08:49 AM (i6RpT) That is really so insensitive. You should shoot to differently enable.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 05:04 AM (kUaEF)

34 Hell, London merely is the appetizer for what ultimately will become the main course. When the shit doth hit the fan here in the states you'll be wise to steer very clear of the big Democrat cesspools, especially Philly, Chicago, L.A., Detroit, Seattle and Newark-Camden. When our underclasses inevitably decide to go Lord of the Flies it'll be in much larger numbers and with much more ferocity than their British counterparts. Forty-five years of race baiting, identity politics and welfare state policies is nothing but a giant social powder keg. That combined with Democrat "leadership" in the big cities and local left-wing policies on crime and punishment and self defense amount to gasoline on a smoldering fire. When it begins you won't catch me within 200 miles of a major urban center. Better to be bored and lonely but alive than to be torn to pieces. The old conventional wisdom: A nice house, a nice car, a 401(k) and a savings account. The new reality: Gold, silver, cash, food, water, guns, ammo, more ammo, one extra gun and an escape plan either to the desert or to high altitude. You think I'm being melodramatic? Well, go back and watch the tapes of Watts '65 and then factor in higher unemployment and higher inflation. Extrapolate.

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at August 10, 2011 05:05 AM (iRlbA)

35 Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2011 08:47 AM (M9Ie6)

So....people should be held accountable for their behavior?

Fascist! Nazi!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 10, 2011 05:05 AM (LH6ir)

36 Wisconsin does give us hope in this DOOM if a hippy dippy state like that can vote for people who are fiscally responsible then maybe, just maybe we can pull back on the stick. Well, except for California. They are boned.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2011 05:05 AM (mNnLy)

37 Today is the 27th anniversary of the release of Red Dawn, hand salute to Wisconsin.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 05:06 AM (HFaiC)

38 Patty Murray and John Kerry.  Not only ideologically opposed to real solutions, but also profoundly stupid.

Posted by: gp

 

They should ask to hold the first meeting aboard Kerry's $7 million yacht, the SS Deadbeat. Better yet. Have the Republican group pose in front of it. That would be frickin priceless.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 10, 2011 05:07 AM (6rX0K)

39 19 Easy to spread, cheap and easy to clean up (magnets). You dated her too, huh??

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 05:07 AM (kUaEF)

40 great it's back.....i guess i don't owe ace the $50.00....something so vile must have been raised by liberals....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 05:08 AM (eOXTH)

41 Vic--I'm always amazed by the way British "youth" are allowed to speak to their elders and authority figures in general. Somehow I doubt a US cop would permit a kid to spew a torrent of trash at him without repercussions.

Posted by: dulce at August 10, 2011 05:08 AM (ANcW5)

42 Posted by: nevergiveup at August 10, 2011 09:04 AM (i6RpT)

[I'm not listening! You are lying!]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 10, 2011 05:08 AM (LH6ir)

43 The link for S&P's worst-case scenario needs fixin'.

...and in other news... don't feed it. It's back.

Posted by: pretentious at August 10, 2011 05:08 AM (I0th/)

44 Well, except for California. They are boned. Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2011 09:05 AM (mNnLy) They're only hope is that eventually the illegal alien population outnumbers the white liberals. People working out in the orchards picking fruit for $3/hour won't put up with having their wealth redistributed forever.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 05:09 AM (kUaEF)

45 Umm, I guess I meant, "THEIR only hope..."

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 05:09 AM (kUaEF)

46

So the doom-related question I got asked the other day, for which I had no ready answer, is "who are the people behind S&P?"

As in do they have some agenda, etc. etc.

Besides being clearly racist, that is.

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 10, 2011 05:10 AM (XdlcF)

47 Ha ha ha a... he picked Patty Murray? She co-authored a piece in the WSJ today about how we need to refund the workforce investment act. Ha ha ha... can't even cut funding to a program (3.5 billion dollars annually) that has NO proof that it does shit. I've got a bit on my blog about it.   See - Michigan Works!* which has spent money on country club memberships and overpriced employee retreats.


Yea, she's a great pick for the committee.


Posted by: Car in at August 10, 2011 05:10 AM (o90mc)

48 According to Galbraith, compound interest is a fascist plot and completely false.

Wow.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 10, 2011 05:10 AM (LH6ir)

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 10, 2011 05:11 AM (o2lIv)

50 In local DOOM! our all beneficent city council decided (against majority opinion) to spend several million dollars installing bike paths on some of our most congested downtown streets.  Now they're claiming they need to raise fees for business alarm permits (yes, you have to buy an alarm permit- business or personal- so the police will actually come to your home or place of business if the alarm goes off.  Otherwise, they don't come AND they send you citation.  Charming, no?) and fines for violations, because the poor, poor police department can't afford to keep sending police out to false alarms.

Excuse me.  Since you don't know that an alarm is "false" until after you get there, should all alarms be treated as real until you know otherwise?  And if this is such a big burden on the police department (which I kind of doubt, but I don't know, so I'll take them at their word), why not redirect those extra millions we apparently had to build unwanted, unneeded bike paths and give it to the police department?

Now I'll go back and read the comments to see if anyone has said anything interesting this morning.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 10, 2011 05:12 AM (8y9MW)

51 Patty Murray and John Kerry.  Not only ideologically opposed to real solutions, but also profoundly stupid.

Posted by: gp at August 10, 2011 09:04 AM (B9rV2)

Fills me with hope and inspiration, these two (three with Baucus) chowderheads do.  Serious people going to seriously work in good faith on our serious overspending.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 10, 2011 05:13 AM (4q5tP)

52 The Mayor of Philly, Michael Nutter, is going to get screwed by the lib media but he's 100%  right.

Posted by: dagny at August 10, 2011 05:13 AM (E5UEE)

53 52 Maybe they can be distracted by a bag of oats.

Posted by: dagny at August 10, 2011 05:13 AM (E5UEE)

54 Former CBO Directors Say Spending-Cut Trigger May Fire Blanks

"All five ex- CBO chiefs said there are ways for Congress to circumvent the trigger, which wouldnÂ’t go into effect until 2013."

Indeed.

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 10, 2011 05:15 AM (o2lIv)

55 Dow Futures -250, according to FBN (folks have figured out the fed statment was "recession is here and will be here for two years.')

More roller coaster.

Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2011 05:16 AM (sOXQX)

56

RE: the UK riots.

My British-born mother - who's lived here since the 1950s - is getting very annoyed with the people at her workplace.  They keep asking her, "What's going on with London?  Why are they rioting?  What do you think about it?"  To which her (internal) response is, "Oh, I think it's fantastic.  I love to see the places I knew as a little girl going up in flames at the hands of a generation of selfish, entitlement-minded cretins.  It fills me with a special kind of joy to see how far my home country has fallen!  So much for the sun never setting on the British empire!"

What she actually says (because she's much more polite than I would be) is, "I don't really know.  I don't particularly watch the news."

Seriously, what do they expect her answer to be?  She came here with her family in 1957, before Britain had gone completely 'round the bend, and she hasn't been back since the 1960s.  She's not exactly a new immigrant fresh off the boat with her finger on the pulse of modern Britain.

I don't think I'd be able to resist saying, "I say right on!  Bring those capitalist pigs down!  No more tippin' o' the hat from me, Guvna!" just to mess with their heads.

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 05:16 AM (4df7R)

57 8 The corrupt Mayors of the democommie urban centers should take note of that.
Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2011 08:47 AM (M9Ie6)

See I would not shoot to kill, but I damn well would shoot to cripple     Pussy. Dead men don't require hospitalization, legal counsel or sympathetic TeeVee interviews. They also can't sue. They be dead. Winning.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 05:17 AM (0M3AQ)

58

I am often accused of being overly pessimistic about our future (both financially and socially), but it's just a matter of looking at the numbers, and the attitudes and behaviors of the voters in this country.  The worst-case scenario is the most likely one.

Aye, that is my opinion as well.  I no longer look for a glimmer of hope that the worst-case scenario can be avoided, I am simply bracing for it.

Posted by: KinleyArdal at August 10, 2011 05:19 AM (IMwC4)

59 "Come to think of it, the choice was between technical default and looking like a Banana Republic and technical blackmail and looking like a Banana Republic! Just different bananas perhaps?"
link


Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:19 AM (k1rwm)

60 Zerohedge reports trading on 3 Italian banks has seen halts today

Posted by: MarkC at August 10, 2011 05:19 AM (yPPVC)

61  Dow Futures -250, according to FBN (folks have figured out the fed statment was "recession is here and will be here for two years.')

More roller coaster.

Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2011 09:16 AM (sOXQX)

 

According to King Barry the market agrees that we're a AAA country. So have no fear! Barry's golden economic age is here!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2011 05:20 AM (1Jaio)

62 The text editor, it liketh me not.  It saith unto me "Nay, thou shalt not ever know the peace that italics bringeth to the soul, nor the joy that a paragraph break shall giveth unto thine readers."

Posted by: KinleyArdal at August 10, 2011 05:20 AM (IMwC4)

63 53 The Mayor of Philly, Michael Nutter, is going to get screwed by the lib media but he's 100%  right.

Posted by: dagny at August 10, 2011 09:13 AM (E5UEE)

Bingo.

I was talking about Nutter's sermon yesterday with my dad.  We both think he's spot-on, but my dad thinks he'll be able to get away with his comments because Nutter's black.  "Oh no no no," I argued.  "He'll get away with it for a few days.  Just until the national race-based establishment gets ahold of it.  Then he'll be dragged over the coals for being 'divisive' and 'exclusionary' in only calling out the 'sons and daughters' of Philly's 'black community.'  He'll end up doing a mea culpa walkback of his remarks, during which he'll have to mention that 'black kids' aren't the only ones causing trouble.  It'll happen.  Just give it time."

My dad still disagrees.  Sadly, I think my dad is wrong as wrong can be.

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 05:20 AM (4df7R)

64

The worst-case scenario is the most likely one.

Things are never as good as they look or as bad as they look.

But the smart money plans for the absolute worst-case scenario.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 10, 2011 05:20 AM (OtAYO)

65 i don't understand why looters are not shot dead...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 05:20 AM (eOXTH)

66 I'm waiting for the Left to pin blame for the London riots on the Tea Party... you just KNOW there must be a connection there, somewhere.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 05:21 AM (kUaEF)

67 Nutter is a decent mayor. He's a straight arrow, esp. compared to his predecessor. And I respect Philly cops. They are tough, which I know firsthand because of my young adult son's regrettable behavior when he lived in the city. (He deserved everything he got.) I don't see pc sh*t holding the them back.

Posted by: dulce at August 10, 2011 05:21 AM (ANcW5)

68 Well, except for California. They are boned.

I'm sure we can compete


Posted by: The state of Chicago at August 10, 2011 05:21 AM (sOXQX)

69 I put a very slight hint of a coat of WD-40 on my magz internals and ammo yesterday certainly makes them operate better. (trick learned in 'Nam).

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 05:21 AM (HFaiC)

70 Exasperated House liberals back Pelosi, point finger at President Obama

They want him to hold the line on class warfare.

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 10, 2011 05:21 AM (o2lIv)

71 See I would not shoot to kill, but I damn well would shoot to cripple     Pussy. Dead men don't require hospitalization, legal counsel or sympathetic TeeVee interviews. They also can't sue. They be dead. Winning.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 09:17 AM (0M3AQ)

The dead man might not access any of these things.  But his family sure does.

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 05:22 AM (4df7R)

72 66 i don't understand why looters are not shot dead... Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 09:20 AM (eOXTH) Can you just imagine what London would be like in the wake of a massive natural disaster? Lord of the Flies would look like a Sunday school story compared to what the animals that call themselves "youths" would be like.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 05:23 AM (kUaEF)

73 Recall the CALPERS brag of just a few days ago that they made 20% for the year and that now everything was rosy? Well, not so fast me buckos:
 
The turmoil on Wall Street has hit the nation's largest public pension fund, which lost about $18 billion off the value of its stock portfolio from July 1 until Tuesday's market rebound.

The losses for the California Public Employees' Retirement System came just three weeks after it and California's teacher pension fund each reported annual investment gains of more than 20 percent in fiscal year that ended June 30.
 
Easy come, easy go.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 10, 2011 05:23 AM (ENKCw)

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 10, 2011 05:24 AM (/JYtL)

75 Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 09:20 AM (4df7R)

Well, the local NAACP Chapter came out in support of his statement.  I don't remember the specific remarks (I heard them on the radio yesterday, I think) but it was fairly unequivocal support.  Maybe that'll keep the worst of race-baiters at bay.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 10, 2011 05:24 AM (8y9MW)

76 i don't understand why looters are not shot dead...

There aren't a lot of privately owned firearms in London and the police exist to preserve the PC order, not civil order.

Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2011 05:25 AM (sOXQX)

77 67 I'm waiting for the Left to pin blame for the London riots on the Tea Party... you just KNOW there must be a connection there, somewhere.     No. These riots were caused by Sarah Palin and the memory of Margaret Thatcher. They like Tea in England.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 05:25 AM (0M3AQ)

78

To add insult to injury, that duo right there is a huge bucket full of stoopid.

See, actually that's the good news because between those two thay can't help but look like assholes in this debate.

I think people are starting to wake up.  Well, indies and soft Ds and Rs that is.

For the hardcore left, well, they live not on food stamps alone, but upon every word that drooleth from the mouth of Patty Murray.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 10, 2011 05:25 AM (OtAYO)

79 You gotta love James Galbraith -- heÂ’s an idiot in fair weather and in foul. A veritable Mount Everest made of pure stupid. This may be the best comedy bit you'll read all day.

I always believed in the maxim that, with two exceptions, great economists were always tall: Milton Friedman and James Kenneth Galbraith.

Figure it out, M&Ms.

Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 10, 2011 05:25 AM (kqqGm)

80 Tyler at Zero Hedge just reported that they invoked Rule 48 again.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:26 AM (k1rwm)

81  66 i don't understand why looters are not shot dead...
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 09:20 AM (eOXTH)


Can you just imagine what London would be like in the wake of a massive natural disaster?

Lord of the Flies would look like a Sunday school story compared to what the animals that call themselves "youths" would be like.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 09:23 AM (kUaEF)

Yes, and then 28 weeks later it would be perfectly safe to move back into the city's core.  No worries.

 

Find and kill all the mixed eye color yobs, though.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 10, 2011 05:27 AM (4q5tP)

82 coolczech yep lord of the flies is right.......poor piggy.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 05:27 AM (eOXTH)

83 66 i don't understand why looters are not shot dead...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 09:20 AM (eOXTH)

The "utes" are largely muslim. Shoot one and they will start blowing everything, and I mean everything, up. They would make the IRA look like the teaparty.

I can't say I would be opposed since that would give the english an excuse to get rid of them.

Posted by: dagny at August 10, 2011 05:27 AM (E5UEE)

84 Taking VDH just a step further; The talking heads are consistently saying that what is happening in Europe cannot happen here - yet.  I don't agree.  These are just giant flash mobs.  With just a tiny bit more coordination, this stuff could be happening here tonight, imo.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 10, 2011 05:27 AM (jx2j9)

85 On riots: The closest I ever remember was the 1st Cowboys Superbowl win of the 90s (92, I think) when the city was completely unprepared for the victory celebration (sadly, John Wiley Price is about average for their intelligence and forethought).  There was some vandalism, and a few (low double digits, maybe?) thugs were arrested.

I wonder what would happen in Dallas, Fort Worth, and the other cities around here if something like what's going on in London, or even just what Philly has going on, started?

We really don't like people messing with our stuff, and we especially don't like bullies.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 10, 2011 05:28 AM (8y9MW)

86

The "utes" are largely muslim. Shoot one and they will start blowing everything, and I mean everything, up. They would make the IRA look like the teaparty.

I can't say I would be opposed since that would give the english an excuse to get rid of them.

Posted by: dagny at August 10, 2011 09:27 AM (E5UEE)

I don't think these rioters are muslim.  They are predominantly black and white trash.

Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2011 05:29 AM (X6akg)

87 methos a once great power reduced to this......sickening.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 05:29 AM (eOXTH)

88

With just a tiny bit more coordination, this stuff could be happening here tonight, imo.

Yup, it could.  But it wouldn't last nearly as long.  After the first night you'd have ad hoc neighborhood watch patrols and your neighbors with shotguns on the street. 

The Brits are buying Amazon out of baseball bats.  The American equivalent would be buying Wal-Mart out of 12 gauge ammo.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 10, 2011 05:29 AM (OtAYO)

89 76 What this thread needs is a SlutWalk Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 10, 2011 09:24 AM (/JYtL) "Unwanted exposure to Scortum is NEVER Okay!" Hmmm.... How about unwanted exposure to skanky g-strings? Unwanted exposure to cleavage? Unwanted exposure to tight jeans? Unwanted exposure to slutwalkers with signs that say "I Love My Cunt?" Hypocritical little bitches. They don't DESERVE no scrotum!!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 05:30 AM (kUaEF)

90 Teacher: [jabbing at a map of the world, with the British Empire lands in pink] Pink. Pink. Pink. Pink. What are all the pink bits? Rowan. Bill Rowen: They're ours, Miss. Teacher: Yes. The British Empire. Arthur... what fraction of the earth's surface is British? Arthur in Roger's Gang: Don't know, Miss. Teacher: Anyone? Jennifer Baker? Jennifer Baker: Two-fifths, Miss. Teacher: Yes, two-fifths! Ours. That's what this war is all about. Men are fighting and dying to save all the pink bits for you ungrateful little twerps. hope and glory

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 05:30 AM (eOXTH)

91 Can you just imagine what London would be like in the wake of a massive natural disaster?

Lord of the Flies would look like a Sunday school story compared to what the animals that call themselves "youths" would be like.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 09:23 AM (kUaEF)

Imagine another Great London Fire, ala 1666.   Or hell, another Blitz.  "Stay Calm and Carry On?"  Sadly, I don't think so.

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 05:31 AM (4df7R)

92 "stay clam and shoot to kill"

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 05:31 AM (eOXTH)

93 I don't think these rioters are muslim.  They are predominantly black and white trash.

Agreed.  The rioters are spoiled young British youth who want to show the "rich people that they can do what they want";  Rush played some clips from an street interview with this filth. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 10, 2011 05:32 AM (9hSKh)

94 ticker-guy has some doom

It may be too late even now, but this much is certain: The path we are on leads to CERTAIN disaster.

Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2011 05:32 AM (sOXQX)

95 spreading the wealth is like making a peanut butter sandwich then dropping your bread butter side down!

Posted by: Krazy Kat at August 10, 2011 05:32 AM (A23u6)

96 "9:29 AM Trading is halted in several Italian stocks: Intesa Sanpaolo, Fiat, Enel, Fondiaria, Eni, Monte Paschi, UBI. ItalyÂ’s FTSE MIB -3.7%, at its lows of the trading day."

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:33 AM (k1rwm)

97 Taking VDH just a step further; The talking heads are consistently saying that what is happening in Europe cannot happen here - yet.  I don't agree.  These are just giant flash mobs.  With just a tiny bit more coordination, this stuff could be happening here tonight, imo.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber

 

Agreed. Look at what happened in New Orleans after katrina. Of course such stupidity can happen.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 10, 2011 05:33 AM (326rv)

98 Imagine another Great London Fire, ala 1666. The wonderful generation of little tykes the British Welfare State has raised would be out there helping spread the fire.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 05:33 AM (kUaEF)

99 Is it too early to crack a beer? 2 racks of juicy pork ribs today.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 05:34 AM (HFaiC)

100 spreading the wealth is like making a peanut butter sandwich then dropping your bread butter side down!



Who puts butter on a PB&J?

Just askin'

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 10, 2011 05:35 AM (vuvrk)

101 linky no worky to insurance comparison - but why would private cover 80 year olds anyway?

Posted by: jeanne at August 10, 2011 05:35 AM (NW1jY)

102 102 Is it too early to crack a beer? 2 racks of juicy pork ribs today. Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 09:34 AM (HFaiC) Never to early for a nice crack and rack!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 05:35 AM (kUaEF)

103

I wonder what would happen in Dallas, Fort Worth, and the other cities around here if something like what's going on in London, or even just what Philly has going on, started?

We really don't like people messing with our stuff, and we especially don't like bullies.

I'm not sure if it would happen. The point has been made before that the crazy rioting that happened after the Lakers won doesn't seem to happen when the Spurs win.

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 10, 2011 05:35 AM (XdlcF)

104 And another thing about Japan...  With both our foray into Euro-socialism and our experiments with stimulating our way out of a slowdown, we are proving our utter ignorance of history, even recent history.  The Japanese were the first to try stimulating their way out of a slowdown and that led to the lost decade.  What do we do?  The truth is that their is such a thing as productive spending and unproductive spending.  Government spending is unproductive spending for two reasons.  One - government spending has to take from the private sector in order to spend thereby destroying the productive spending in the private sector.  Second, the vary inefficient and inherently corrupt nature of government means that a significant amount of money flowing through government processes is siphoned off and diverted to ancillary and often unknown, ends.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 10, 2011 05:36 AM (jx2j9)

105 73 See I would not shoot to kill, but I damn well would shoot to cripple     Pussy. Dead men don't require hospitalization, legal counsel or sympathetic TeeVee interviews. They also can't sue. They be dead. Winning.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 09:17 AM (0M3AQ)

The dead man might not access any of these things.  But his family sure does.

 

They can merely plead that "he was a good boy who fell in with a bad lot". The fact of his death will end the riots toot sweet. So you are facing what is known as a Cost Benefit Analysis. How much cost is the riot costing per hour versus how much possible pay outs his death would cause the state. This is England, I don't think they have a Lottery Legal System like we do. So cap a couple and advertise it.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 05:36 AM (0M3AQ)

106 Come to think of it, I really am a fucking retard.  link

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:38 AM (OITDh)

107 You should shoot to differently enable. Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 09:04 AM

Reminds me of one of my favorite WWII stories. After Japan surrendered and cease-fire orders were given, one of our Admirals (wish I remember which) was advised that some kamikaze units were still attacking ships. He replied that they should be shot down, but in a "friendly way."

Ought to work in London.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 10, 2011 05:38 AM (YjjrR)

108 DJIA at -304

Obama has saved us, once again!!
We are truly not worthy of his benevolent rule.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 10, 2011 05:38 AM (vuvrk)

109 "Give a man a fish, and he'll riot for free fish:. --Jim Treacher

Posted by: mr Jeff at August 10, 2011 05:40 AM (4nxhP)

110 Unwanted exposure to cleavage? 4 words I never thought you'd string together. Now that I think of it though, Helen Thomas....

Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 10, 2011 05:41 AM (/JYtL)

111 "stay clam and shoot to kill"

No molluscs, no peace!

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 10, 2011 05:42 AM (pdCUF)

112 "109 Come to think of it, I really am a fucking retard.  

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 09:38 AM (OITDh)"

I was under the impression that we were asked by Ace not to use the exact name of an existing poster?

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:42 AM (k1rwm)

113 Speaking of cleavage: http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/files/2011/08/IMG_1070.jpg Because I'm a Giver, gentlemen!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 05:42 AM (kUaEF)

114 Say what you will about Beck, he's been predicting a London-type scenario here.

I'm just glad we no longer live in Atlanta.  It will make Philly look like a Sunday School picnic.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 05:43 AM (UOM48)

115 I was under the impression that we were asked by Ace not to use the exact name of an existing poster?

You're a troll, not a poster. Fuck off.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 10, 2011 05:43 AM (pdCUF)

116 116 "109 Come to think of it, I really am a fucking retard.  

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 09:38 AM (OITDh)"

I was under the impression that we were asked by Ace not to use the exact name of an existing poster?

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 09:42 AM (k1rwm)


FTR, the poster at #109 is not the real "curious"

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:44 AM (k1rwm)

117 Oooh, rally, Dow only down 250 now.

Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2011 05:44 AM (sOXQX)

118 117,

Haven't seen a water buffalo in 40 years.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 05:44 AM (HFaiC)

119

I hate to sound racist, but does anybody think Europe and America are all that excited about elevating more blacks to leadership positions at this point? Does anyone want to hear more bullshit how society is responsible for the behaviors of individuals? Given these two questions, there may actually be a silver lining at the end of the tunnel for all. Or there might just be more burned out no-man lands in Western cities. Go figure.

 

BTW, why hasn't Jessie flown to London to speak against police brutality? He has been remarkably quiet these last couple of years.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 05:46 AM (0M3AQ)

120 What this thread needs is a SlutWalk

Heh. That whole "movement" started out stupid, and went downhill from there.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 10, 2011 05:47 AM (pdCUF)

121

VDH's column about the woman who was killed by the gang banger is haunting me right now.  There's a comment in there about how the police said that she was in the wrong place at the wrong time and VDH's response was that no, she wasn't.  She was at a car wash where she had every right to be.  Something about that resonates with me, especially in light of other current world events.  It's back to the point that those who are abiding by civilized rules are the ones who are being destroyed.  The implications of that are deeply, deeply worrying.

Insty's been pointing out for ages that people are taking note that the way to keep your religion from being critized is to behead people.  The incentive system that is currently in place leads to Mad Max.

Do.  Not.  Want.

 

Posted by: alexthechick at August 10, 2011 05:47 AM (VtjlW)

122 Haven't seen a water buffalo in 40 years.

But I thought everybody had a water buffalo.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 10, 2011 05:47 AM (8y9MW)

123 I'm thinking I should probably consider buying some .22 cal high velocity rounds for my Marlin semi-auto rifle... I don't usually like to keep ammo in the house, and use it all up when I go target practicing. But the way things are going all over the world under the wonderful tutelage of our Affirmative Hire President and Leader of the Free World... it's starting to look like Target Practice may be coming to ME in the not-too-distant future.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 05:47 AM (kUaEF)

124 Fuck you, poseur at #120.  I am the real curious.  You are the lie.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:47 AM (OITDh)

125 I was under the impression that we were asked by Ace not to use the exact name of an existing poster?

He also asked us to tone down the fucking cursing.

Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2011 05:48 AM (sOXQX)

126 121 Oooh, rally, Dow only down 250 now.

Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2011 09:44 AM (sOXQX)


Yesterday was a little relief that the Fed was going to stop doing things.

Today, millions of stock brokers slithered from under their rocks and saw that we're still boned.

Posted by: nickless at August 10, 2011 05:48 AM (MMC8r)

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:48 AM (k1rwm)

128 Fuck you, poseur at #120.  I am the real curious.  You are the lie.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 09:47 AM (OITDh)


It's true, I'm one of curious's's friends!

Posted by: Elie Wiesel at August 10, 2011 05:48 AM (MMC8r)

129 He only told us to tone down the cursing because all of you are nazi assholes.  If any of you people lived in NYC like I do, you'd be enlightened enough to know that.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:49 AM (OITDh)

130 The Medicare vs private insurance Link not working for me.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 10, 2011 05:49 AM (0fzsA)

131 He also asked us to tone down the fucking cursing.

Oh...poopie! 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 10, 2011 05:50 AM (9hSKh)

132 BTW, why hasn't Jessie flown to London to speak against police brutality?


You don't much her Sharpton much on it neither much. Much.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2011 05:50 AM (GZitp)

133 125 What this thread needs is a SlutWalk Heh. That whole "movement" started out stupid, and went downhill from there. Posted by: Waterhouse at August 10, 2011 09:47 AM (pdCUF) I like the resentful look on the little preteen - toddler, almost - "slutwalker." What is it about Liberals and the way they seek to spread their mental illness to little kids all the time, anyway?? Just like the Commies in Czechoslovakia always did.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 05:50 AM (kUaEF)

134 Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 09:19 AM (k1rwm)

You like bananas?

Interesting...

Posted by: Typical perverted moron at August 10, 2011 05:50 AM (LH6ir)

135 They can merely plead that "he was a good boy who fell in with a bad lot". The greatest benefit is now you don't have a challenge to your side of the story. "Oh, he was a good boy? That's not how I remember it. Why don't you ask him exactly what he was doing?" "I... I can't. You American bastard! You've killed my SON!" "Precisely."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 10, 2011 05:51 AM (lbo6/)

136 He only told us to tone down the cursing because all of you are nazi assholes. If any of you people lived in NYC like I do, you'd be enlightened enough to know that. that is the voice of an idiot right there.....throws the NAZI tag around like a true lib....my offer stands get it off the blog i donate $50.00 who will match me?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 05:51 AM (eOXTH)

137

The Brits are buying Amazon out of baseball bats.

First off, it's great that Brits are finally realizing that their government doesn't give a rat's ass about doing its duty and protecting them, and they're starting to want to protect themselves again. I consider that progress, because baby steps are still steps.  But...

...This means that those doing the purchasing either expect the riots to continue long enough for their baseball bats to be delivered before they're over, or expect more riots in the future.  If they DO expect to receive their bats before the riots are over...

... they also foolishly expect that the Royal mail will be delivered amidst mass anarchy in the streets.  This is doubly foolish given the point made above RE: the British government's attitude towards its own people. 

It's quaint, in a darkly comic kind of way.

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 05:51 AM (4df7R)

138 Your statement on Reid's picks is spot on.  The left will ride their statist horse until it's legs fall off because it is good for them.  They have a captive cadre of takers backing them up who give no thought whatsoever to where the money they take comes from, just that they get it.  They could care less that the money they get free loses value because as long as it has any value at all, it is more valuable than the money that they work for - which is zero (since they refuse to work).


Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 10, 2011 05:51 AM (jx2j9)

139
  @ 70---here;s another, Nam--try using silicone spray instead, it's dry, and doesn't have the drawback of attracting dirt.  Plus the stuff lubricates like crazy.  We use it on all our duck hunting weapons.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 10, 2011 05:52 AM (ud5dN)

140 See I would not shoot to kill, but I damn well would shoot to cripple     Pussy. Dead men don't require hospitalization, legal counsel or sympathetic TeeVee interviews. They also can't sue. They be dead. Winning.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 09:17 AM (0M3AQ)

 

The original Mayor Daley had it right when dealing with the scum in 1968.

The Mayor, obviously angry ... in his 15-minute press conference, in which he declined to discuss any other topic ... Daley opened his blast at police by saying he had given Conlisk

"instructions which I thought were the instructions on the night of the 5th, but which were not carried out. I said to him very emphatically and very definitely that an order be issued immediately under his [Conlisk's] signature to shoot to kill any arsonist or anyone with Molotov cocktails in their hand to fire a building because they are potential murderers, and to also order police to shoot to maim or cripple anyone looting any stores in the city"

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2011 05:53 AM (1Jaio)

141 that is the voice of an idiot right there.....throws the NAZI tag around like a true lib....my offer stands get it off the blog i donate $50.00 who will match me?

That comment is from a sock, PG.

Remember GAZE, kiddies?  Just a helpful reminder from your friendly Ghost of Sparta. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 10, 2011 05:53 AM (9hSKh)

142 Phoenixgirl, are you really in Phoenix?  Because I have a frined there who can find you.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:54 AM (OITDh)

143 i thought linking to porn was not to be done her.......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 05:54 AM (eOXTH)

144 142,

I'm poor but I'll kick in a 3 course dinner of ribs and beer with a wait staff of one combat Veteran.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 05:54 AM (HFaiC)

145 Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 09:51 AM (eOXTH)

are you educated at all?  Do you know how to read?  Or are you just a vicious human being who doesn't like me cause I criticized your precious presidential candidate?  Why don't you go back and read the post. 

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:54 AM (k1rwm)

146

The Brits are buying Amazon out of baseball bats.

>>First off, it's great that Brits are finally realizing that their government doesn't give a rat's ass about doing its duty and protecting them, and they're starting to want to protect themselves again. 

I assumed it was the rioters buying them.

Posted by: Mama AJ, glass half empty and broken into shards at August 10, 2011 05:54 AM (XdlcF)

147 134 Does anyone want to hear more bullshit how society is responsible for the behaviors of individuals?

You think it's just blacks doing that? Take a look at the entire Democrat Party, irrespective of skin color.
  My proposed silver lining is that everyone grows a bullshit detector and uses it. No more special classes of people, with built in excuses. Equality before the law. Do that and see how fast the demonazis desolve. Every time a dem proposes a special program for special people, just ask them why they wish to discriminate? Works for class and race.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 05:54 AM (0M3AQ)

148 It won't be the Chicagos or New Yorks where our riots start. It will be the places that are already used to rioting and have a general hatred for law enforcement. Like Oakland and Detroit.

Posted by: President Obama at August 10, 2011 05:54 AM (wnGI4)

149 To talk and stuff phoenixgirl.  that's what I meant.  And I'm not a LIB!  I was here in NYC on 9/11!  None of you can understand what that was like.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:55 AM (OITDh)

150 "148 Phoenixgirl, are you really in Phoenix?  Because I have a frined there who can find you.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 09:54 AM (OITDh)"

This is not the real "curious"....

this is a threat which I did not make 

all my friends from phoenix left, wisely

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:56 AM (k1rwm)

151 Re: 151 Better yet - why don't we stop feeding the troll?

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 05:56 AM (kUaEF)

152 Here is part of where our interest on the debt we owe China is going - aircraft carrier "research":

China launches first aircraft carrier on maiden sea trial

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 10, 2011 05:56 AM (9hSKh)

153

I assumed it was the rioters buying them.

Posted by: Mama AJ, glass half empty and broken into shards at August 10, 2011 09:54 AM (XdlcF)

I would assume the rioters would just loot them.  Probably after throwing a weaponized Shi Tzu* through a sporting goods store window.

*interthreaduality

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 05:57 AM (4df7R)

154 Fake curious trolling multiple people, including the real curious, all at once.

Posted by: President Obama at August 10, 2011 05:57 AM (wnGI4)

155 Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 09:47 AM (OITDh)

No, neither of you are the real curious.

I am the real curious, and LEAVE ME ALONE!

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:57 AM (LH6ir)

156 Posted by: alexthechick at August 10, 2011 09:47 AM (VtjlW)

That incentive system has been in place for pretty much all of human history.  What changed was that we 'outsourced' our protection (from criminals) from ourselves to the government.

Police (as in: Police Department) only really means "Civil (or City) Administration"  Original police departments were only concerned with "public order" (that is, getting drunks off the street- either home or into the drunk tank, stopping riots, etc.), they didn't do much of what we consider "police work" now- stopping and investigating crime.

They didn't do that because they weren't expected to.  Now, some very, very good things came from that change, but the "slippery slope" people- once again- turned out to be right.  By allowing all criminal enforcement to be done by the state (instead of by citizens, perhaps with some specific kind of oversight), we've gotten to the point where any victim of a crime is, in some manner, "to blame."

Now, I'm not advocating pure vigilante justice, or even a significant move from today's paradigm is good or needed, but when I give up some of my power (my Liberty) to the State, I should be able to expect the State to protect me.  However, the State, despite it's size, is not capable of protecting everyone all the time.  So the question is which is more important, keeping "vigilante justice" off the table, or letting criminals know that there's a good chance their next victim might just shoot them instead?

I will point this out, too: even in bloodiest days of the wild west (were "vigilante justice" really did kind of exist), murders in fairly big cities were counted with single digits.  Double digits meant it had been an incredibly bad year.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 10, 2011 05:58 AM (8y9MW)

157

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 09:56 AM (kUaEF)

Agreed.

And feast your eyes on this!  Better use of energy, ja? 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 10, 2011 05:59 AM (9hSKh)

158

I am not a troll.  Trolls live under bridges and ask riddles--did you know NYC has lots of bridges?

And I didn't threaten anybody.  You know who threatens people?  The queen of mean, that's who!  Of course, you people don't know who that is, because you can't read informed, well thought out journalism like Newsweek, you have to get all your information from stupid places like the constitution and history books... and those are all so old!

Get some new ideas, expand your minds.  Geeez.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 05:59 AM (OITDh)

159 Posted by: irongrampa at August 10, 2011 09:52 AM (ud5dN)

I agree. WD-40 will eventually gum up the works. There are silicone wipes that work well.

Also, I have used graphite sprays, and they seem to work well without attracting dust and gunk.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 10, 2011 06:00 AM (LH6ir)

160 wow soc gen

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 06:00 AM (k1rwm)

161 Better yet - why don't we stop feeding the troll

Yeah, it gets pretty tiresome. She's not going away on her own, she's to fucking stupid for that I guess, so it's time to just ignore her. Cause every thread she shows up on turns into the same shit.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2011 06:00 AM (GZitp)

162

Am I in time for the catfight?

Troll socks or not, they're hot in my mind.

Posted by: yinzer at August 10, 2011 06:00 AM (/Mla1)

163 Why don't you just turn on your magical commenter filter, Trolltwat? That way you don't have to read all the invitations to taste our asses, lackwit. P.S. Fuck yourself.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 10, 2011 06:01 AM (lbo6/)

164 @ 170 ditto

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Formerly YRM) At Work at August 10, 2011 06:02 AM (yAor6)

165 BTW - Dow -350

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 10, 2011 06:02 AM (jx2j9)

166 Here's some damned good news:

Fox News radio is reporting the Tolleebon leader responsible for the deaths of our SEALs and troops has been killed.

Death by lack of Obamacare and F-16, but mostly F-16.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 06:02 AM (UOM48)

167 And feast your eyes on this! Better use of energy, ja? Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 10, 2011 09:59 AM (9hSKh) I don't know, Kratos... her elbows are kind of sharp, and her legs and butt aren't as toned as they should be...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 06:02 AM (kUaEF)

168 Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 09:54 AM (OITDh)

Not funny.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 10, 2011 06:02 AM (LH6ir)

169 It won't be the Chicagos or New Yorks where our riots start

Well, sure. I just doubt that they're going to want to be left out.

Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2011 06:02 AM (sOXQX)

170 166, Yep, I love the silicone wipes.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 10, 2011 06:03 AM (ZDUD4)

171 175 Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 09:54 AM (OITDh)

Not funny.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 10, 2011 10:02 AM (LH6ir)


not the real "curious" who has always posted here.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 06:03 AM (k1rwm)

172 Jane - I wonder if the RoE changed a little?

Posted by: Jean at August 10, 2011 06:03 AM (WkuV6)

173

And feast your eyes on this!  Better use of energy, ja? 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta)

Time for bowling?
http://tinyurl.com/3etjc4s

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 10, 2011 06:04 AM (136wp)

174 177,

I'll try those but I clean my stuff so often that I never had a problem.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 06:04 AM (HFaiC)

175

  Decided we weren't moving anywhere IF TSHTF, There is enough land to make do for food, , all the preps that are practical have been made, so here I'm gonna be--20 rounds up the driveway, so bring it, sport.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 10, 2011 06:04 AM (ud5dN)

176

I think these doom posts are dumb, too.  You all thought the stock market was going to fail, but what happened yesterday?  That's right, it climbed almost 2/3 out of the hole it fell into on monday!

And speaking of troll stocks: I know all about the stock market, too.  Wall street is in New York City (where I live.)  Since none of you live here, how can you possibly understand the stock market.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 06:04 AM (OITDh)

177 Up 430 yesterday, down 362 today atm.....appears to be another dead cat bounce. This volatility is going to wipe out a bunch of traders.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 10, 2011 06:04 AM (ENKCw)

178 This is a pretty entertaining thread.

Posted by: Rich at August 10, 2011 06:05 AM (wnGI4)

179 Oops. Prognosis Negative on the stock market today.

Posted by: Jimmah at August 10, 2011 06:05 AM (TfRqk)

180 The "Pentagon" announced they killed the guy/guys who shot down the Chinook. How the fuck do they really know that? Please

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 10, 2011 06:05 AM (i6RpT)

181 154 It won't be the Chicagos or New Yorks where our riots start. It will be the places that are already used to rioting and have a general hatred for law enforcement. Like Oakland and Detroit.   I think it will start in a city that wouldn't immediately rise to the top of anyone's list of "Riot Prone" cities.  Somewhere like Atlanta or Newark.  Heck, it might even start somewhere relatively off-the-radar nationally, like Lowell, MA, or Newport News, VA.    I kind of hate that I'm writing this like it's a foregone conclusion that mass rioting WILL happen.  But... I kind of sorta think it maybe is.

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 06:05 AM (4df7R)

182 @AllenG, The Supreme Court has also ruled that the police cannot be held liable for failing to protect you. Ergo Proctor Gamble, you are responsible, at root, for your own protection.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 10, 2011 06:06 AM (lbo6/)

183 Time for bowling? http://tinyurl.com/3etjc4s Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 10, 2011 10:04 AM (136wp) She sure looks like she can ball...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 06:06 AM (kUaEF)

184

(CNN Money) The risk of double dip recession is rising.

And while economists disagree on just how likely the U.S. economy is to fall into another downturn, they generally agree on one thing -- a new recession would be worse than the last and very difficult to pull out of.

"Going back into recession now would be scary, because we don't have the resources or the will to respond, and our initial starting point is such a point of weakness," said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics. "It won't feel like a new recession. It would likely feel like a depression."

Zandi said the recent sell-off in stocks have caused him to raise the odds of a new recession to 33% from 25% only 10 days ago.

 

Only a 33% chance? No wonder why the economic "experts" see increased unemployment as "unexpected" every time it happens

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2011 06:06 AM (1Jaio)

185 Fox News radio is reporting the Tolleebon leader responsible for the deaths of our SEALs and troops has been killed.

Death by lack of Obamacare and F-16, but mostly F-16.

Hurray!  Hell welcomes another damned soul - may all the Islamists there in Afghanistan meet a swift yet painful death.

I don't know, Kratos... her elbows are kind of sharp, and her legs and butt aren't as toned as they should be...

Hmmm..

Maybe this is better?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 10, 2011 06:06 AM (9hSKh)

186 Unless the taliban give a medal shaped like a Chinook I don't see how the vermin in the Pentagon can make that claim.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 06:07 AM (HFaiC)

187 We better print some cash and build a chunnel.


NOW!!

Posted by: Jimmah at August 10, 2011 06:07 AM (TfRqk)

188 You're a troll, not a poster. Fuck off.

*nods*

Posted by: erg's bleeding anus at August 10, 2011 06:07 AM (GTbGH)

189 Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 10:04 AM (HFaiC)

Oh, if you clean regularly it won't be a problem, but I like the silicone and graphite because they seem less greasy.

OT, but I learned my lesson with cheap mags for my AR-15. I bought a bunch and they work well only when they are immaculately clean and perfectly lubed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 10, 2011 06:07 AM (LH6ir)

190 181, I have so many that I don't shoot some for months. My WWII Antiques are kept Clean and blitzkreig new with dry silicone wipes. I can't brag about that stuff enough.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 10, 2011 06:07 AM (ZDUD4)

191 No, it was the real curious, the one who has always commented here.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 06:07 AM (OITDh)

192 Aaaaaand formatting fail on my last comment.  WTH, smart military blog.  I had paragraph breaks in there and everything.

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 06:08 AM (4df7R)

193

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 10, 2011 10:04 AM (136wp)

She had especially stick to proper form while throwing the ball down the lane - one miscalculation could mean a nasty tip over! 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 10, 2011 06:08 AM (9hSKh)

194 the one using the idiot's nic please stop....the idiot will dig it's own grave......and we can all dance on it when it does.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 06:08 AM (eOXTH)

195 Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 10:04 AM (OITDh)

This is not the real "curious"

however, I made money yesterday and the day before, did you?

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 06:08 AM (k1rwm)

196 Heck, it might even start somewhere relatively off-the-radar nationally, like Lowell, MA, or Newport News, VA.

Or Peoria, IL.  They've been warming up there.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2011 06:09 AM (GZitp)

197 If you are going to sock puppet someone, you should modify the name. Like above. I'm not the real ace but I do reek of Valu-rite and flop sweat.

Posted by: Sockpuppet Ace at August 10, 2011 06:09 AM (136wp)

198 188 154 It won't be the Chicagos or New Yorks where our riots start. It will be the places that are already used to rioting and have a general hatred for law enforcement. Like Oakland and Detroit.   I think it will start in a city that wouldn't immediately rise to the top of anyone's list of "Riot Prone" cities.  Somewhere like Atlanta or Newark.

Yep.  Definitely Atlanta.  I can remember years ago when a certain segment of the population would celebrate Juneteenth, trying to get home from the airport (we lived in the Brookhaven neighborhood).  Idiots were blocking traffic, hitting car hoods, and pissing in front of folks.  And this was in Buckhead.  The police were completely unable to control the crap.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 06:09 AM (UOM48)

199 Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 10:04 AM (OITDh)

This is not the real "curious"

however, I made money yesterday and the day before, did you?

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 10:08 AM (k1rwm)

And I'm still waitin for my cut, ho.

Posted by: Downgrayedd at August 10, 2011 06:09 AM (/Mla1)

200 The Supreme Court has also ruled that the police cannot be held liable for failing to protect you.

I didn't know the Supreme's had ruled that, but I knew that was the rule.  And it's in complete contradiction of the police state (note the little 'p') we currently have.  I'm encouraged, in lots of ways, not to carry a weapon for personal defense.  I'm encouraged not to "encourage" or "provoke" an attacker/mugger/whatever.  If I get mugged, the Police will put Top. Men. on finding my assailant, but if I fight back and he gets hurt, I'll get sued (and, if there aren't enough witnesses, possibly thrown in jail).  If I'm going to give up all of that, they have a resultant obligation to protect me.

Now, a lot of that is mitigated for me, personally, because I live in Texas, and we're kind of a "shoot first, question the body" kind of State, but I do know that to be true in many other areas.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 10, 2011 06:11 AM (8y9MW)

201 FREEZE. IT. OUT. 

Please.

Yesterday was so pleasant. 


Now, onto the thread topics.  Is there a recall election for a few Democrats and what are our prospects of flipping a seat or two there? 

Posted by: Y-not at August 10, 2011 06:11 AM (5H6zj)

202 And that's yesterday's gains out the window.

Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2011 06:11 AM (sOXQX)

203 Obviously the stock market is crashing again because republicans won their recall race in Wisconsin.

Posted by: Jimmah at August 10, 2011 06:12 AM (TfRqk)

204 That bowler girl is a poser with a house ball.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2011 06:12 AM (Fw2Gg)

205 Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 10:08 AM (k1rwm)

Was that you? I have never seen triple penetration done quite that way. Very impressive. You certainly earned your money!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 10, 2011 06:12 AM (LH6ir)

206 208,

Yes two but I don't know if we can take them.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 06:12 AM (HFaiC)

207 ...This means that those doing the purchasing either expect the riots to continue long enough for their baseball bats to be delivered before they're over, or expect more riots in the future.  If they DO expect to receive their bats before the riots are over...

Ha! Amazon is for the losers!  You need  bat?  We got bats! Our suppliers in Romania, Belorussia, Hungary, and Estonia they make all the bats you need.  Connections???  We got connections!  If you have cash - we have bats!  Today!

Posted by: Ivan's Bat Emporium - We Deliver! at August 10, 2011 06:12 AM (HjPtV)

208 I expected this big drop today as I believe the people or brokers who missed dumping their stock on Monday were going to take advantage of yesterdays uptick to do it now. Tomorrow you are going to see lower volume and maybe just a very slight gain.

Posted by: polynikes at August 10, 2011 06:12 AM (ufGlD)

209

It is important to give these UK riots the correct title:

The Labour Party Riots 2011

since most of the looters and yobs are surely little Labourites.  Three cheers for the Dole!

Posted by: hughie at August 10, 2011 06:12 AM (+56Bh)

210 Thx 'Nam.

How's it hanging?  Are you in Texas?  That's one helluva a drought you guys have going down there. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 10, 2011 06:13 AM (5H6zj)

211 There is no "real" curious.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 10, 2011 06:13 AM (GTbGH)

212

Afghan clerics are trying to get suicide bombers to not use their turbans for explosives.

More evidence these people are nuts.

http://tinyurl.com/4ymo8ku

Posted by: dagny at August 10, 2011 06:13 AM (E5UEE)

213 All this cursing, and "respected commenter" socking... its...

its... fucking despicable!

Also, you do not 'shoot to wound'. That's video game bullshit. You shoot to stop the threat in the most efficient manner possible: shoot the target center of mass until it ceases to move.

Posted by: pretentious at August 10, 2011 06:14 AM (I0th/)

214

but when I give up some of my power (my Liberty) to the State, I should be able to expect the State to protect me.

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away!  That, btw, is not a slam on the police.  I do not want to live in a society where the police are only seconds away from everyone all the time. 

The issue in the UK is that the State took away the power to protect oneself without assuming the responsibility of protection.  Anyone who thought that would end well is an utter, utter idiot.

The bat thing fascinates me because I'm very certain that the use of bats for self-protection would fall within the realm of can't do that, dear boy.  The fact that the British public is saying well yeah fuck that is a minorly hopeful sign.  Of course, I am Steynlevel pessimistic about what will happen. 

It's hilarious watching my lefty friends attempt to find some way to spin this, for values of hilarious equaling making me want to slap them. 

Okay, off to don the emopants again.  I'm thinking the ones with the nice purple piping.

Posted by: alexthechick at August 10, 2011 06:14 AM (VtjlW)

215

I've used many different lubricants, and since where I am now is realtively warm and humid most of the year, I'm currently using gunzilla www . gunzilla . us

Pretty pleased with it.  Of course, CLP (Break-free) is a good go-to if you don't have to worry about sand.  MILTEC-1 is also really good stuff. 

WD-40 has several problems beyond gumming things up... it burns, really well.  No point in adding carbon.  Same goes for cooking oil--although PAM for grilling might work, as it's made for higher temps.  I prefer to stick with lube made for the equipment I'm using, though.  In the sandbox, I used remington dry lube religiously and exclusively and never had a malfunction due to lubrication issues.

Posted by: Chuck Z at August 10, 2011 06:14 AM (OITDh)

216 I posted the dylan ratigan rant that beck is discussing now.  It is worth listening to.  Beck is wrong though, saying that he himself has been saying this for 8 years and getting no where.  Ratigan has, on and off, said the same thing for years.  When he was on CNBC he and rick were the only two willing to speak up.  When he moved to MSNBC ratigan has continued to speak up.

In many ways, they remained on the main stream, they didn't have a tantrum and take their ball and go home and start their own media and make the dumb mistake for charging for it.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 06:14 AM (k1rwm)

217 217,

I moved across the state line last year to La. where my grandson lives but I can be back in 20 min.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 06:14 AM (HFaiC)

218 however, I made money yesterday and the day before

Look again.    -406.38 (3.62%)

Posted by: DJIA Death Watch at August 10, 2011 06:15 AM (GTbGH)

219

The SELFISH parasitic economy killing UNIONS LOST in WI. Fuck you, unions - ya assholes.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 10, 2011 06:15 AM (0fzsA)

220 I guess cricket bats and croquet clubs (or whatever the call them) don't work as well for pounding on some rioting yutes?

Posted by: yinzer at August 10, 2011 06:15 AM (/Mla1)

221 187 - Take a high resolution IR image of the grid square - kill everything in it - write exception to the RoE to CYA or retire.

Posted by: Jean at August 10, 2011 06:15 AM (WkuV6)

222 Really? After what she said to Jane, she's back? I thought that was the death throes.

Posted by: dagny at August 10, 2011 06:15 AM (E5UEE)

223 211 That bowler girl is a poser with a house ball.
Evaluate this set of balls, please?

http://tinyurl.com/3w83uan

Posted by: t at August 10, 2011 06:16 AM (136wp)

224 Folding shovels are big sellers on amazon.co.uk? For digging shallow graves?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 10, 2011 06:16 AM (pdCUF)

225 dagny you couldn't smell it?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 06:16 AM (eOXTH)

226 No Shit, cheap, worthless parts and ammo is abundant for AR's. I watched some guy with a pair of needle nose bending and tweeking the top edge of the magazine at the range. I ask him if I could help him with it. He said sure, give it a try. I picked it up and threw it in the garbage. I said spend the money on good stuff, it may save your life.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 10, 2011 06:16 AM (ZDUD4)

227 however, I made money yesterday and the day before, did you? I'm out-earning you right now, dumbass. And I'm taking a shit at the moment.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 10, 2011 06:16 AM (lbo6/)

228 This is not the real "curious"

however, I made money yesterday and the day before, did you?

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 10:08 AM (k1rwm)

 

Making $20 a day giving hobos $0.50 blowjobs is no way to go through life.

Posted by: Curious makes it too easy at August 10, 2011 06:17 AM (OITDh)

229 213 208,

Yes two but I don't know if we can take them.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 10:12 AM (HFaiC)

Given the fact that one of the Repub recall elections went back to the Dems, I fear you're probably right, NG.  You can demonstrate the success of Governor Walker's Republican agenda till you're blue in the face, but if the people are still so dumb they decide to go back to a Democrat in light of all that evidence, well...  So I figure two seats already held by Dems will probably stay Dem.  You can't fix stupid.

Dammit.

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 06:17 AM (4df7R)

230 The dead cat bounce is over.  The descent into madness, chaos, and despair has just begun.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 10, 2011 06:17 AM (9hSKh)

231

Over at Legal Insurection - a reminder:

"Yes, you are celebrating.  But the Wisconsin Senate recall elections are not over.

Republicans have a chance to deliver a political coup de grâce to the national union and Democratic intimidation tactics next Tuesday when there are two elections seeking to recall Democratic State Senators Robert Wirch and James Holperin.  These two were among the fleebaggers who ran away to Illinois..."

 

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 10, 2011 06:17 AM (0fzsA)

232

shoot the target center of mass until it ceases to move.

Yeah, I was gonna say, I was taught to shoot center mass.  That and anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice (at least). 

Posted by: alexthechick at August 10, 2011 06:18 AM (VtjlW)

233 I am curious

Posted by: sparticus at August 10, 2011 06:18 AM (GTbGH)

234 I'm out-earning you right now, dumbass. And I'm taking a shit at the moment.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 10, 2011 10:16 AM (lbo6/)

 

I like to shit while I wowk also.  Usualwy duwing intewviews.

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at August 10, 2011 06:18 AM (/Mla1)

235 Thatcher's bloody England. Just had to say it. Projection isn't just a slide show.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 06:18 AM (0M3AQ)

236 Look again.    -406.38 (3.62%)

It doesn't make money in the markets. It makes money opening wide for the Man with the Golden Slacks.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 10, 2011 06:18 AM (pdCUF)

237 Folding shovels are big sellers on amazon.co.uk? For digging shallow graves?

No, for sharpening the edge.

Posted by: mrp at August 10, 2011 06:18 AM (HjPtV)

238 WD40 is not a lubricant and should not be used on a gun, except maybe if your refurbishing a old piece. MILTECH 1 as above or dry lube only. Please we may need all of the support available soon.

Posted by: Jean at August 10, 2011 06:18 AM (WkuV6)

239 242 you got gravy on that one?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 06:19 AM (eOXTH)

240 231 Folding shovels are big sellers on amazon.co.uk? For digging shallow graves?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 10, 2011 10:16 AM (pdCUF)


I'd imagine they make a pleasant "whacking" sound when they connect with a thug's skull.  Then you can dispose of the body.

win-win

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 06:19 AM (UOM48)

241 66 i don't understand why looters are not shot dead...
---
Let me put my lefty goggles on:
The answer is - it makes more looters.
The logical answer would be it prevents more from being born. But who needs logic with these sparkly glasses.

Posted by: Jimmah at August 10, 2011 06:20 AM (TfRqk)

242 I moved across the state line last year to La. where my grandson lives but I can be back in 20 min.

That's great!

When we were moving down to Houston (driving from Boston) ten years ago or so we stopped in Lafayette, LA for the night.  Had dinner at Randoll's (dall's?).  It was really magical somehow.  There were bus loads of folks there from various parishes, lots of whom were speaking French or Franglais (which we kind of understand).  Grandpas dancing with their grand kids and great food.  Really wonderful. 

Hubby overheard them talking about "the redhead" (me; I gather it's something of a commodity down there) and as we were leaving for the night the folks were talking about the "grenouille de bois" (tree frogs) who were making a racket. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 10, 2011 06:21 AM (5H6zj)

243 Actually the cloth with WD-40 on it is a dry cloth so there is barely a hint and I have no problems to date.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 06:21 AM (HFaiC)

244 I don't like New Orleans at all, but Lafayette was great. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 10, 2011 06:21 AM (5H6zj)

245

WD40 is not a lubricant

Thought this was going to be a response to the Bwaney Fwank sock

Posted by: dagny at August 10, 2011 06:22 AM (E5UEE)

246

From the NYT:

"The Federal Reserve’s finding on Tuesday that there is little prospect for rapid economic growth over the next two years was the latest in a summer of bad economic news. One administration official called the atmosphere around the president’s economic team “angry and morose.”

On Tuesday afternoon, the White House announced that Mr. Obama would be taking an “economic bus tour” in the Midwest next week, with stops in Illinois, Iowa and Minnesota.

Though the trip is not a campaign event, it could help shape votersÂ’ perceptions of whether Mr. Obama is more concerned about being remembered for that one good term or whether he wants another four years in the Oval Office no matter what."

Amazing how well they shovel this shit. Not a campaign event? Good God these heathens are brazen.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 06:22 AM (0M3AQ)

247

Jean,

WD-40 is great for the OUTSIDE of a gun, if you're going to be keeping it somewhere damp. 

But it's just easier to keep all your lubricants the same.  Right now I'm considering stocking up on that orange stuff they put on movie theater popcorn to use as lubricant... because when the cops ask for your alibi, you can claim you were at the movies!

Posted by: Curious makes it too easy at August 10, 2011 06:23 AM (OITDh)

248

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 10:22 AM (0M3AQ)

...remembered for that one good term...???  WTF?  I guess the soft bigotry of low expectations is in full effect.

Posted by: yinzer at August 10, 2011 06:24 AM (/Mla1)

249 251,

I'm 100miles west of Lafayette connected to Lake Charles.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 06:24 AM (HFaiC)

250 Interesting, the TSX isn't following US markets so far.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 10, 2011 06:24 AM (pdCUF)

251 253, Do you really think that asshat is going to ride in a bus? I bet he choppers in to an airport and the bus picks him up and takes him to a rally site.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 10, 2011 06:25 AM (ZDUD4)

252 227 I guess cricket bats and croquet clubs (or whatever the call them) don't work as well for pounding on some rioting yutes?

Posted by: yinzer at August 10, 2011 10:15 AM (/Mla1)

See, I'd think cricket bats would be BETTER, since they're flat and thus cover more area for a greater spread of pain.  But then again, if you want to really HURT someone, the same amount of pressure in a more concentrated area is the way to go.  Also, you can't really cave someone's skull in with a cricket bat like you can a baseball bat.  Or so I've heard.  <_<  

As for croquet mallets, meh.  The handles would snap.  Now POLO mallets you MIGHT be able to use, provided you were taking down rioting yutes from a moving vehicle, like a bicycle.  Or a tank.

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 06:25 AM (4df7R)

253

I'm back bitchez!

Posted by: Volatility at August 10, 2011 06:25 AM (FUEui)

254 I'd imagine they make a pleasant "whacking" sound when they connect with a thug's skull.  Then you can dispose of the body. I've taken and taught more than a few classes on fighting with an entrenching tool when I was a wee grunt. It's the lovely sharp edge that's my favorite part, versus the blunt force trauma possibilities. And it's a lot easier, not to mention more productive, to stab someone in the gut or base of the throat with the point than to connect with a haymaker.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 10, 2011 06:25 AM (lbo6/)

255 London calling to the faraway towns Now that war is declared-and battle come down London calling to the underworld Come out of the cupboard, all you boys and girls London calling, now don't look at us All that phoney Beatlemania has bitten the dust London calling, see we ain't got no swing 'Cept for the ring of that truncheon thing

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2011 06:26 AM (TMB3S)

256 The problem is with what WD40 decomposes to -- and Dagny I highly recommend it for Mr. Frank, it should in time prevent untimely, on-air flatulence.

Posted by: Jean at August 10, 2011 06:26 AM (WkuV6)

257 Oh, Verizon is offering $50k rewards for catching whoever is cutting their fiber optic landlines. At last report, 12 lines had been cut. Strangely enough, 45k landline workers are on strike at Verizon.
 
I doubt there is any correlation between the cuttings and the strike though.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 10, 2011 06:27 AM (ENKCw)

258 261 I'd imagine they make a pleasant "whacking" sound when they connect with a thug's skull.  Then you can dispose of the body.

I've taken and taught more than a few classes on fighting with an entrenching tool when I was a wee grunt. It's the lovely sharp edge that's my favorite part, versus the blunt force trauma possibilities.

And it's a lot easier, not to mention more productive, to stab someone in the gut or base of the throat with the point than to connect with a haymaker.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 10, 2011 10:25 AM (lbo6/) 

I'm trying to remember if it was in the book, We Were Soldiers, where a soldier ran out of ammo and killed a bunch Vietcong with an entrenching tool? 


Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 06:28 AM (UOM48)

259 BTW some more doom on the way. Beck is doing his stand with Israel thing in a few weeks, saying Israel is being set up. He is NOT talking about the UDI (I first heard about it on Batchelor's show) -the Unilateral Declaration of Independence. Palestinians are going to just declare themselves a state and take it to the UN. You know how those fuckers will vote. It will be General Assembly so US has no veto, and I am sure we would be absent that day anyway. Andy McCarthy over a NRO on this: http://tinyurl.com/3smyect At any rate, this will not end well.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2011 06:28 AM (Fw2Gg)

260

Though the trip is not a campaign event, it could help shape votersÂ’ perceptions of whether Mr. Obama is more concerned about being remembered for that one good term or whether he wants another four years in the Oval Office no matter what."

ONE GOOD TERM!?  What good term?  The only positive term that comes to mind when I think of Obama is, "soon-to-be-former President."

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 06:29 AM (4df7R)

261 Verizon trained everyone to do the job of the union folks on strike. They had everything under control, everything running like a top.  This must have upset the folks on strike cause it seems the company barely hiccuped when they didn't show up to work.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 06:29 AM (k1rwm)

262

Roll up,

Roll up for the economic bus tour"

 

I am wondering if his bus tour will incite any social looting? He is a community organizer and all.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 06:29 AM (0M3AQ)

263 JackStraw I posted that same thing yesterday.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2011 06:30 AM (Fw2Gg)

264 ONE GOOD TERM!? I was hoping for a prison term.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 10, 2011 06:30 AM (ZDUD4)

265 265 Oh, Verizon is offering $50k rewards for catching whoever is cutting their fiber optic landlines. At last report, 12 lines had been cut. Strangely enough, 45k landline workers are on strike at Verizon.
 
I doubt there is any correlation between the cuttings and the strike though.
---
Hmmm, where is Bushitler at when this happens?

Posted by: Jimmah at August 10, 2011 06:30 AM (TfRqk)

266 I'm still trying to come up with a clever Barky Bus Tour theme.....I got nuthin' so far.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 06:30 AM (UOM48)

267 So much for the "sheepish investors" who bought back in.

They dipped a toe, found the water freezing, and ran away again.

Posted by: Monty at August 10, 2011 06:31 AM (/0a60)

268

And it's a lot easier, not to mention more productive, to stab someone in the gut or base of the throat with the point than to connect with a haymaker.

Or if you're me, to take out a knee to drop someone down to more accessible smiting range.

I keep one of the large maglights in my car.  As I've told several people, that's not really for the light. 

Back when I was still able to wear heels, I always wore the pointiest heel I could when I was going out.  A stiletto through the eye is quite effective if it ever needed to come to that. 

 

Posted by: alexthechick at August 10, 2011 06:31 AM (VtjlW)

269 Oldsailor - do you use ballistol on the older guns?

Posted by: Jean at August 10, 2011 06:31 AM (WkuV6)

270 Verizon trained everyone to do the job of the union folks on strike. They had everything under control, everything running like a top. This must have upset the folks on strike cause it seems the company barely hiccuped when they didn't show up to work. Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 10:29 AM (k1rwm) If only this were true. Since they are the CLEC for this area, I have to wait on them to complete the local loop so I can get my 100mb circuit in for the office. No one is coming to turn that up during the strike.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2011 06:31 AM (Fw2Gg)

271 274, How about Rolling Blunder?

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 10, 2011 06:31 AM (ZDUD4)

272 274 I'm still trying to come up with a clever Barky Bus Tour theme.....I got nuthin' so far.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 10:30 AM (UOM4

How about The "Republicans Aren't Going to Drive This Bus Into the Ditch" Tour?

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 06:31 AM (4df7R)

273 ONE GOOD TERM!?  What good term?

Yeah, it's insane, especially considering the fact that whichever knob-gobbling journo wrote that just conceded in the previous paragraph that El JEFe's economic team was "angry and morose".

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 10, 2011 06:32 AM (pdCUF)

274 265 out here they recently caught a pair that had stolen 50k feet of copper line at $2 a foot .... the vacant homes here are getting ransacked of everything....man hole covers are disappearing on the streets.....and these are not "people in need" these are thieves and looters..

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 06:32 AM (eOXTH)

275 279 274, How about Rolling Blunder?

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 10, 2011 10:31 AM (ZDUD4)

LOVE IT.

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 06:33 AM (4df7R)

276 Ooh, rally. Dow only down 330.

Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2011 06:33 AM (sOXQX)

277 Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2011 10:31 AM (Fw2Gg)
oh well maybe it's just here.  One of my friends works for them and she was so annoyed that she had to learn all this extra stuff and couldn't complain cause "hey at least I have a job".....said she.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 06:33 AM (k1rwm)

278 I never feel any sympathy toward striking "workers" (and I have a couple of nice-enough relatives who are in unions), but I have to say these Verizon ones really take the cake.  Even before the line-cutting the first footage I saw of them was terrible.  Big, loud, drunken-seeming jerks who look like they spend more time at sports bars than at work. 

I'm about to switch (finally) to a Utah phone number and was going to upgrade my enV to an iPhone.  Trying to decide between Verizon and AT&T (hubby is on the latter).  These jerks are making me think twice about that decision. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 10, 2011 06:33 AM (5H6zj)

279 274 I'm still trying to come up with a clever Barky Bus Tour theme.....I got nuthin' so far.

"Another One Rides the Bus" - Weird Al

http://tinyurl.com/6zvpfh

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 10, 2011 06:33 AM (136wp)

280

with stops in Illinois, Iowa and Minnesota.

Note state missing.  It starts with an upside down M.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 10, 2011 06:33 AM (B+qrE)

281 The most awesomest thing ever would be if the bus did actually get stuck in a ditch.

Oh please god. I don't ask for much.

Posted by: Jimmah at August 10, 2011 06:34 AM (TfRqk)

282 One of my friends works for them

You don't even get how much of a parody of yourself you've become, do you, you fucking imbecile?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 10, 2011 06:35 AM (pdCUF)

283 too bad there isn't a republican candidate who can complain about our tax dollars paying for the bus tour.

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 06:35 AM (k1rwm)

284 @245--Ok, you got my support, can't run as fast anymore, but I damn sure can shoot straight yet. Now back to the topic at hand.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 10, 2011 06:35 AM (ud5dN)

285 Wow: Jeb Bush Jr. will formally announce his endorsement of Jon Huntsman this morning in Miami (at NRO Primary Event - I'm too lazy to link)

Posted by: Y-not at August 10, 2011 06:35 AM (5H6zj)

286

In many ways, they remained on the main stream, they didn't have a tantrum and take their ball and go home and start their own media and make the dumb mistake for charging for it.

-----------

Do you get CNBC and MSNBC for free?

Have you seen their ratings?

Here is betting Beck will get more viewers online than any single show currently on CNBC.

Posted by: Rich at August 10, 2011 06:35 AM (wnGI4)

287 276

And it's a lot easier, not to mention more productive, to stab someone in the gut or base of the throat with the point than to connect with a haymaker.

Or if you're me, to take out a knee to drop someone down to more accessible smiting range.

I keep one of the large maglights in my car.  As I've told several people, that's not really for the light. 

Back when I was still able to wear heels, I always wore the pointiest heel I could when I was going out.  A stiletto through the eye is quite effective if it ever needed to come to that. 

 

Posted by: alexthechick at August 10, 2011 10:31 AM (VtjlW)


I want you and ChristyBlinky on my team.  The idea of the maglight in the car is a good one *makes note*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 06:35 AM (UOM48)

288 imagine...being told to learn something......the horror......typical lib

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 06:36 AM (eOXTH)

289 I use TW-25B, It's manufactured my Mil-Comm Products. I have ran several thousand rounds through my AR's without cleaning. I love the stuff. I use silicone wipes for exterior and non-moving parts.

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 10, 2011 06:36 AM (ZDUD4)

290 289 The most awesomest thing ever would be if the bus did actually get stuck in a ditch.

Oh please god. I don't ask for much.

Posted by: Jimmah at August 10, 2011 10:34 AM (TfRqk)

Are you there, God?  It's me, MWR.  Just for the record, I'd like to advocate Jimmah's request. 

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 06:37 AM (4df7R)

291

I'm trying to remember if it was in the book, We Were Soldiers, where a soldier ran out of ammo and killed a bunch Vietcong with an entrenching tool? 


Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 10:28 AM (UOM4

It was a common practice in the trenches in WWI.  In trench warfare (in the mud), a shovel was more practical than a rifle.

Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at August 10, 2011 06:37 AM (UhTsC)

292 >>JackStraw I posted that same thing yesterday. I'm slow. Besides, you can never have too much Joe Strummer.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2011 06:37 AM (TMB3S)

293 Wow: Jeb Bush Jr. will formally announce his endorsement of Jon Huntsman this morning in Miami (at NRO Primary Event - I'm too lazy to link)

Posted by: Y-not

 

What does he owe Huntsman? Or whom does he dislike enough to deny them his endorsement? Very strange.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 10, 2011 06:37 AM (6rX0K)

294 @293
Oops, so that's the son, not the dad. 

Odd that it is getting any play at all. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 10, 2011 06:37 AM (5H6zj)

295 If you want DOOM... we elected a Marxist in 2008.  A real freakin Marxist.  And he's still running the country.  And he may well be re-elected.

Posted by: cherry π at August 10, 2011 06:38 AM (OhYCU)

296 I'm still trying to come up with a clever Barky Bus Tour theme.....I got nuthin' so far.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 10:30 AM (UOM4

How about "Make sure you check your tire pressure!"

or "Look, we drive on the roads just like the proles!"

or "If this were high speed rail, I wouldn't be screwing up your traffic!"

or "I did this because I couldn't get AF-1 to land at the smaller airports, and none of my friends who own corporate jets will let me borrow one of theirs for some reason.  Probably because they are racists."

or "Riding the bus just like I did in Selma with my mom and dad in 1964"

Posted by: Chuck Z at August 10, 2011 06:38 AM (OITDh)

297 298 289 The most awesomest thing ever would be if the bus did actually get stuck in a ditch.

Oh please god. I don't ask for much.

Posted by: Jimmah at August 10, 2011 10:34 AM (TfRqk)

Are you there, God?  It's me, MWR.  Just for the record, I'd like to advocate Jimmah's request. 

 

Personally I think a bus that won't start is more representative of the whole thing. I'm guessing the bus will be a GM product.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 06:38 AM (0M3AQ)

298 293 Wow: Jeb Bush Jr. will formally announce his endorsement of Jon Huntsman this morning in Miami (at NRO Primary Event - I'm too lazy to link)

Dog always returns to eat his vomit. A Bush always returns to his progressive roots.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 10, 2011 06:38 AM (136wp)

299 Not a theme for Barky's bus tour but I got a chuckle out of this cartoon found in the comments at Don Surber's place:

http://tinyurl.com/3relqsm

Posted by: Retread at August 10, 2011 06:38 AM (BO5ap)

300 Wow: Jeb Bush Jr. will formally announce his endorsement of Jon Huntsman

Who?

Posted by: toby928™ at August 10, 2011 06:39 AM (GTbGH)

301 293 Wow: Jeb Bush Jr. will formally announce his endorsement of Jon Huntsman this morning in Miami (at NRO Primary Event - I'm too lazy to link)


I thought the Bushes liked Romney.

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 10, 2011 06:39 AM (o2lIv)

302 How about the "Lear Jet Bus Tour?" I be thinking that a Lear Jet would be cheaper for the tax payers and all.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 06:39 AM (0M3AQ)

303

Obama2012 Bus: Get In or Get Under

Tour de TOTUS

Gas Tax, Grass Tax, or Ass Tax, nobody rides for free.

Posted by: yinzer at August 10, 2011 06:40 AM (/Mla1)

304

What does he owe Huntsman? Or whom does he dislike enough to deny them his endorsement? Very strange.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 10, 2011 10:37 AM (6rX0K)

Actually, I think it's great.  There's still a lot of "Bush Hate" on both sides of the political spectrum (though not as much as there once was).  Having someone - anyone - with the surname Bush come out with an endoresement for you is a double-edged sword.  And considering Huntsman is the candidate the left would LOVE to foist on us, this is like candy.  Bush is the left's antimatter. 

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 06:40 AM (4df7R)

305 BTW, it's funny... NRO Primary Event has a double-post. 

The AoSHQ lifestyle is everywhere!

Posted by: Y-not at August 10, 2011 06:40 AM (5H6zj)

306

It was a common practice in the trenches in WWI.  In trench warfare (in the mud), a shovel was more practical than a rifle.

Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at August 10, 2011 10:37 AM (UhTsC)

My paternal grandfather was awarded the Croix de Guerre in WW I.  I've got the award and medal.  He died in his 40s, before my parents met and married.  I wish I could have known him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 06:41 AM (UOM48)

307 hmmmm bus tour?......what's the gas mileage on one of those? are the tires properly inflated?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 06:41 AM (eOXTH)

308

How about the "Lear Leer Jet Bus Tour?"

Posted by: Sub-Tard

FIFY

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 10, 2011 06:41 AM (326rv)

309 Or whom does he dislike enough to deny them his endorsement?

Rick Perry.

Think about it, though: everyone knows Huntsman is going precisely nowhere.  He's not even a blip- even the part of "Next Turn" doesn't think it's his turn, so he's not going to get the nod.  By endorsing Huntsman, what he's really saying to the rest of the field is, "Don't ask."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 10, 2011 06:41 AM (8y9MW)

310 Jeb Bush Jr. will formally announce his endorsement of Jon Huntsman

Wow, that will get Huntsman up to three votes in the primary.

Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2011 06:41 AM (sOXQX)

311 So it's the son of Jeb Bush, not Jeb himself.  I gather he's in real estate.

Kind of the perfect endorsement.  Jon Huntsman Jr, who is riding on Senior's coat tails, gets the endorsement of Jeb Bush Jr, who is nobody of note compared to his father. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 10, 2011 06:42 AM (5H6zj)

312 Instead of a bus, Barky ought to have to ride in a damned Volt.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 06:42 AM (UOM48)

313 I think JEF should fly around in a 152 with Truman Sparks as his pilot. That's about what we can afford

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 10, 2011 06:42 AM (ZDUD4)

314 Wow: Jeb Bush Jr. will formally announce his endorsement of Jon Huntsman this morning in Miami (at NRO Primary Event - I'm too lazy to link)
Posted by: Y-not at August 10, 2011 10:35 AM

One can only hope this will be the death knell for the Bush family in politics. We've had enough -- too much, really, as for all his good points Dubya was able to come up with some astonishingly stupid policies that we continue to suffer from.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 10, 2011 06:42 AM (YjjrR)

315 jane d'oh my grampa was awarded the same!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 06:42 AM (eOXTH)

316

Besides, you can never have too much Joe Strummer.

 

God rest his soul.

Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2011 06:43 AM (fbWxv)

317 320 So it's the son of Jeb Bush, not Jeb himself.  I gather he's in real estate.

Isn't he the hawt son?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 06:43 AM (UOM48)

318

What does he owe Huntsman? Or whom does he dislike enough to deny them his endorsement? Very strange.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 10, 2011 10:37 AM (6rX0K)

Actually, I think it's great.  There's still a lot of "Bush Hate" on both sides of the political spectrum (though not as much as there once was).  Having someone - anyone - with the surname Bush come out with an endoresement for you is a double-edged sword.  And considering Huntsman is the candidate the left would LOVE to foist on us, this is like candy.  Bush is the left's antimatter. 

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit

 

I had actually considered that, but dismissed it as being too machivellian. It might possibly dispell some of the Bush clone theme involving Perry.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 10, 2011 06:43 AM (326rv)

319 jane he also received the purple heart....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 06:44 AM (eOXTH)

320 320 Yep - nepots gotta nep, as it were

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2011 06:44 AM (SB0V2)

321 328 jane

he also received the purple heart....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 10:44 AM (eOXTH)


That's awesome.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 06:45 AM (UOM48)

322 About Israel:

The Next Intifada?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 10, 2011 06:45 AM (9hSKh)

323 As has been mentioned in the sidebar, and most likely other commenters, the Fed is doing nothing but punishing savers by keeping interest rates artificailly low.  I don't see any refuge for making money from any kind of investments right now.  The stock market is a sucker's folly.  Safer investments aren't paying anything.  The only people I see making money from investments right now are the market manipulators.  Soros is making a killing thanks to his humble servant Obama.  Two more years of artifically low interest rates?  I hate these SOBs.

Posted by: Havedash at August 10, 2011 06:45 AM (sFD5n)

324 The Dow is trying to lift it's head.  -322.11 (-2.87%)

Keep Barry away from the microphones.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 10, 2011 06:45 AM (GTbGH)

325 322 I think JEF should fly around in a 152 with Truman Sparks as his pilot. That's about what we can afford

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 10, 2011 10:42 AM (ZDUD4)

A 152 is too expensive.  Make it a Sopwith Camel, with the Prez strapped to the wing.  And aviator goggles are extra.

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 06:45 AM (4df7R)

326 Jeb Jr. doesn't seem that hot to me.  Dark hair, heavy eye brows.  He's ok, but nothing special. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 10, 2011 06:46 AM (5H6zj)

327 amazing what an immigrant farm boy with a sixth grade education accomplished.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 06:46 AM (eOXTH)

328 332. Not only that (and as a saver I'm totally sick of this) but it will increase inflation - the implicit tax increase levied by gov't on all US citizens, so we've got that going for us, too. Inflation on stuff you need to buy; no return on cash or MM. Awesomeness.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2011 06:47 AM (SB0V2)

329 I had a name for the bus tour but I'm sure someone's said it by now: "Magical Misery Tour"

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2011 06:48 AM (SB0V2)

330 As has been mentioned in the sidebar, and most likely other commenters, the Fed is doing nothing but punishing savers by keeping interest rates artificailly low. I have been saying for a while - the people who are doing the right things and playing by the rules are going to get boned. Inflation will tear up those savings that aren't making any interest.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2011 06:48 AM (Fw2Gg)

331

A 152 is too expensive.  Make it a Sopwith Camel, with the Prez strapped to the wing.  And aviator goggles are extra.

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 10:45 AM

Even better, and more appropriate: a hot-air balloon.

But it would be racist to call the Traitor-in-Chief "Balloon Boy...."

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 10, 2011 06:48 AM (YjjrR)

332 Even better, and more appropriate: a hot-air balloon.

But it would be racist to call the Traitor-in-Chief "Balloon Boy...."

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 10, 2011 10:48 AM (YjjrR)

HAH!

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 10, 2011 06:49 AM (4df7R)

333 Back when I was still able to wear heels, I always wore the pointiest heel I could when I was going out.  A stiletto through the eye is quite effective if it ever needed to come to that.

S
top saying stuff like that Alex, you are making me a bit hornish and my honey is half the world away. I love tough chicks that kick ass, I think of mine as a Valkyrie.

Posted by: hobbes at August 10, 2011 06:50 AM (LmOsD)

334 A 152 is too expensive.  Make it a Sopwith Camel, with the Prez strapped to the wing. 

 That reminds me of something I read about P-38s - they actually used a drop-tank-like pod to transport passengers from time to time. Not exactly the most comfortable way to fly.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 10, 2011 06:50 AM (pdCUF)

335 I guess that puts paid to all the statements that jeb is more conservative than his brother.

Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2011 06:51 AM (M9Ie6)

336 @344: this is Jeb's son, not Jeb.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2011 06:52 AM (tqwMN)

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 06:53 AM (k1rwm)

338 What is the deal with the price of silver - gold going up up up and silver just languishing.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2011 06:53 AM (Fw2Gg)

339 Jeb's son???? What kind of endorsement is that?

Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2011 06:53 AM (M9Ie6)

340 126 Insty's been pointing out for ages that people are taking note that the way to keep your religion from being critized is to behead people.  The incentive system that is currently in place leads to Mad Max.

Do.  Not.  Want.

 

Posted by: alexthechick at August 10, 2011 09:47 AM (VtjlW)

Speak for yourself..........

Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Teahadi at August 10, 2011 06:54 AM (Yv6gq)

341 BO's short bus.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 06:54 AM (HFaiC)

343 349 Jeb's son???? What kind of endorsement is that?

I dunno.  It's very odd.  I think it's mostly about trying to trick people into thinking it's the dad. 

Huntsman is a slime-ball. 

Apparently he endorsed Rudy 4 years ago, so he doesn't really have a stellar track-record. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 10, 2011 06:55 AM (5H6zj)

344 351 BO's short bus.

heh

With Slow Joe at the wheel.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 06:55 AM (UOM48)

345 http://tinyurl.com/3w83uan Posted by: t at August 10, 2011 10:16 AM (136wp) Call me paranoid, BUT... I think it's 50/50 that the one on the left is a Trannie...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 06:55 AM (kUaEF)

346 339 As has been mentioned in the sidebar, and most likely other commenters, the Fed is doing nothing but punishing savers by keeping interest rates artificailly low.


I have been saying for a while - the people who are doing the right things and playing by the rules are going to get boned. Inflation will tear up those savings that aren't making any interest.     Provided we survive Barackolypse (cats and dogs living together - end times), investments in rental real estate may be the smartest choice at this point. Insure that you finance with fixed rate interest and select proven rental locations. At that point you will be applauding every increase in inflation as your property's value will increase with it. I am thinking beach houses may be the investment given the amount of leverage that went into beach properties in the last decade and amount of distressed properties. Just a thought. Its that 70s show all over again. 

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 10, 2011 06:55 AM (0M3AQ)

347 352 Der Spiegel – I bet there was a little pain associated with them getting up off of their knees from worshiping “the receder of oceans and the healer of planets”. Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 10, 2011 10:54 AM (jx2j9) Who are these Kraut Klowns Kidding?? Der Spiegel was one of Obama's leading foreign shills back in 2008.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 06:56 AM (kUaEF)

348 354,

Oh yeah forgot about that imbecile, prolly can't drive anyway. Top o' the morn Janey girl.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 10, 2011 06:57 AM (HFaiC)

349 good news upstairs folks!!!!!!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 10, 2011 06:57 AM (eOXTH)

350 *waves to 'Nam Grunt*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2011 06:58 AM (UOM48)

351

Los Angeles' if we build it they will come strategy will, sadly, work for them. The Jags might be an easy pickup. However, the economic benefits they offer a city such a Jacksonville won't even cause a ripple in a city such as L.A. or a state such as California. The taxpayers will pay for the stadium to be built and then, when they get a team, they will have to split the parking revenue with the team and will have to foot the cost for the concessionairs. And, they will probably offer huge tax incentives to the team just to get them on-board.

Do the folks in L.A. really want to see a local NFL game that badly?

Posted by: Clueless at August 10, 2011 07:01 AM (LyOUH)

352 Are Elly May and Jethro endorsing him also?

Posted by: cherry π at August 10, 2011 07:02 AM (OhYCU)

353

351BO's short bus.
--

Coming to a ditch near you!

Posted by: Jimmah at August 10, 2011 07:03 AM (TfRqk)

354 DOW down 433... WHHHHEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 07:05 AM (kUaEF)

355 curious wept    -450.05 (-4.00%)

Posted by: DJIA Death Watch at August 10, 2011 07:08 AM (GTbGH)

356 "Kolean Stock Bloker Reaps to Death Amid Market Prunge"

Posted by: Curious at August 10, 2011 07:19 AM (OITDh)

357 Does anyone have any kind of numbers on how many people worldwide are strongly dependent upon state welfare systems of some kind?  I'm starting to become curious just what part of the human population exists because politicians are willing to buy them off...

Posted by: F--- Nevada! (I'm AoSHQ's DarkLord©, and I approve this message) at August 10, 2011 07:21 AM (GBXon)

358 FBN just announced your GOP house Supercommittee overlords: Hensarling (TX) Upton (MI) Camp (MI) Seriously? No Ryan? I lived in Upton's district for a year. I facepalmed hearing his name.

Posted by: Doc at August 10, 2011 07:21 AM (qR9y8)

359 Kyl Toomey Portman to the Supercongress from the Senate side.

Posted by: Doc at August 10, 2011 07:23 AM (qR9y8)

360 The NYT has an interesting question to ask - for a change. How much security will the Brits need to protect the London Olympics... from their own citizens?

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 10, 2011 07:24 AM (kUaEF)

361 Thomas Sowell had some pretty good snark.  Britain used to rule the waves.  Now they waive the rules.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 10, 2011 07:31 AM (Hx5uv)

362 How much security will the Brits need to protect the London Olympics... from their own citizens?

THEY'RE GOING TO LET A GUY WITH A TORCH RUN THROUGH LONDON?!!!!!

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 10, 2011 07:32 AM (Hx5uv)

363 Gibbon and Terry just have to be close by. Maybe over the next hill...

---Custer

Posted by: Iron of Naples at August 10, 2011 07:32 AM (EG/p1)

364 373
THEY'RE GOING TO LET A GUY WITH A TORCH RUN THROUGH LONDON?!!!!!

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 10, 2011 11:32 AM (Hx5uv)

That right there is some mighty good snark.

Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Teahadi at August 10, 2011 07:35 AM (Yv6gq)

365 THEY'RE GOING TO LET A GUY WITH A TORCH RUN THROUGH LONDON?!!!!!

Relax. We'll get them to use the same advanced technology as those fake fireplaces to mock up a flame.

Also, helmets and padding for the runners, in case they fall.

Posted by: British Safety Special Safety Administrative Safety Commission on Exposed Flame Safety at August 10, 2011 07:36 AM (pdCUF)

366 Hensarling (TX) Upton (MI) Camp (MI)

two RINOs out of 3.  The game is over.

Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2011 07:37 AM (M9Ie6)

367 THEY'RE GOING TO LET A GUY WITH A TORCH RUN THROUGH LONDON?!!!!!


har har har

Posted by: cherry π at August 10, 2011 07:39 AM (OhYCU)

368 Kyl Toomey Portman;

Doesn't matter.


Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2011 07:43 AM (M9Ie6)

369 I guess by the end of next month we will have "tax reform".

Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2011 07:45 AM (M9Ie6)

370 the Senate picks seem more promising then the House picks

Posted by: Authorlmendez (Formerly YRM) at August 10, 2011 07:46 AM (3XDPM)

371 Posted by: DJIA Death Watch at August 10, 2011 11:08 AM (GTbGH)

butterflies!!!

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 08:37 AM (k1rwm)

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 08:40 AM (k1rwm)

373 Are there only perma bears on this site, no bulls?

Posted by: curious at August 10, 2011 08:49 AM (k1rwm)

374

"Among those affected so far:

Tacoma, WA.Atlanta Downtown Development Authority, GA.The Board of Governors of the University of North CarolinaMiami, FL."

Posted by: . at August 10, 2011 10:31 AM (k1rwm)

375 Here is the correct link for the medicare v. private insurance story: http://tinyurl.com/4xm7qoq

Posted by: Federale at August 10, 2011 10:35 AM (7xqyd)

376 More DOOM! for you, Monty and Morons:

http://tinyurl.com/3gfm34e

"The real estate market is already in the deepest depression in modern U.S. history. If you think it can't get any worse, think again. In several cities, the real estate market is about to drop even more. Home values in many of those cities, such as Las Vegas, have already collapsed as unemployment has shot higher. And with no hope of quick recovery, housing prices are expected to continue to fall. 24/7 Wall St. identified ten housing markets that are expected to drop by at least another 10% by 2012."

Posted by: Beth at August 10, 2011 09:18 PM (5NfIh)

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