1 McCaskill Nelson Tester ND open VA open (when Webb announces) Brown in Ohio Nelson of Florida Stab Me Now in Michigan These are our targets in 2012.

2 The Democrats know the MBM will come to their rescue.

3 This should be attached to Every. Goddamn. Bill until it is passed.

I suspect the brave Republicans now consider their duty done, and can return to making empty speeches in front of TV cameras and whimpering as the Democrats continue to push us down the road to total destruction.

4

How many did we need? 60 right?

 

5 #2 Not for Nelson or McCaskill or whatever Dem runs in North Dakota. They are all very likely goners at this point. I would even say Tester and Brown and the VA seat as well which props us to 53 seats in 2013. Wide net, get rid of as many Dems as you can and not a FUCKING DIME to waste in a primary in Mass or Maine. Primary Lugar all you want but don't bitch when most of the money is aimed in Michigan, Virginia, Ohio, Missouri, Florida, Montana, North Dakota and Nebraska. Though it is likely that if the GOP has big leads in the last 3 we can free up some cash to target Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and even Wisconsin.

6

/shakes his Magic 8 Ball

And it reads.... : Predictable.

7 Brown in Ohio

These are our targets in 2012.

Posted by: CAC at February 02, 2011 06:43 PM (Gr1V1)

I've wanted that POS out since 2006.

8 This should be attached to Every. Goddamn. Bill until it is passed.

They could slip it in as a tiny little amendment to the next 2000 page bill, and just keep very quiet about it.  Nobody would know it was there, since they never read the laws they pass anyway.

9 #7 He trails DeWine in polls. He is between Tester and StabMeNow in terms of vulnerability.

10 These are our targets in 2012. Sarah Palin, is that you?

11 Even though it didn't pass, you know the Dems can feel a chill breeze up the yellow stripes where their spines should be.

If it wasn't for the Tea Party Movement last year this vote would never have happened. And we have to keep it up ad make it so damn loud they either get on board or retire.

12 How about West Virginia Mancin?

13 How many did we need? 60 right?
Posted by: Ben at February 02, 2011 06:45 PM (DKV43)

Yeah. It was a vote to waive a budgetary point of order and pass the amendment.

14 Sherrod Brown sucks, sucks, sucks, but hopefully there is someone better than DeWine to run against him.  (Not so much because he's a "RINO" but because he's a shitty candidate)

15 #12 Now he owns it. He didn't care about fighting the law at all and just exposed himself to the world for 2012. There are 23 Democrats up in 2012. I cannot wait to see the retirement rush starting in the middle of this year.

16 All we need is 50, 3 more, provided we win the White House as well. Then we can take this mother down via Reconciliation.

17 Unless the SCOTUS blows Ocare out of the water, the best we can hope for is that the repubs will keep sending this up, attached or otherwise, until we get a senate majority and a repub. president.  Sending it up time after time keeps it front and center for 2012.

18 #16 really, really looking at the 2012 senate race map you gotta wonder why ANY democrat this year wanted to end the filibuster. All the smart ones know they are likely to be in the minority in 2012.

19 Posted by: CAC at February 02, 2011 06:53 PM (Gr1V1)

One of my friends was saying that their strategy is to not retire but to resign so that the democratic governors can put in someone who can win the election, someone with no voting record on health care.  He led me to believe they will be doing this fairly soon.  He thinks it's a great strategy.

20 we really need a lot more Republican senators

If we have 130 of them, the half who'd vote against repeal if their votes might lead to repeal will be outnumbered.

We can do this!

21 Worth noting that Snowe and  Brown (Mass) voted for repeal.  We can hold Lugar's seat without him, but knocking either of these two out in a primary would be really stupid.  You don't get from 47 to 60 by subtracting. 

22 Did I hear right though, that they did pass something to get rid of the onerous 1099 requirements?

23 The vote actually was:

By a vote of 47-51, the Senate sustained an objection to the legislation on the grounds that it does not comply with congressional budget rules. Because a full repeal of the law is projected to increase the deficit, waiving that point of order would have required 60 votes.

So it was more of a technical vote, rather than a vote on the actual issue at hand.  A bit harder to use as grist in the political commercial mill.

24

I used to worry more about Obamacare than I do now.

It will never happen. We can't afford it. Obama might as well have mandated that everyone buy a unicorn as well.

We can't afford the bloated government programs we have now. Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are in a state of collapse. Obamacare will objectively never happen.

25 Posted by: curious at February 02, 2011 06:55 PM (p302b)

Only problem with that is of the states CAC listed most, if not all, have GOP governors. Even in other states, the GOP holds most of the state houses.

26 Not that it matters as they aren't supposed to be proceeding with the law anyway due to the FL judge ruling.

27

All we need is 50, 3 more, provided we win the White House as well.

Four, my friend, since I'm tanned, rested, and ready for another run.

28 16 All we need is 50, 3 more, provided we win the White House as well. Then we can take this mother down via Reconciliation.


Bwaaaahaaaa

29 How's my ass taste now bitches? Y'all thought I'd vote against Obamacare, bahahahahahahahahaah!!!!

30 We in Florida are keeping score and lining up Nelson replacements. Maybe we can find a second Rubio for 2012.

31 Snowe and Brown are out, buzz. We're not gonna get to 60...ever. So let's cut the shit and stop setting the bar so high. All we need is 51 good Republicans.

32 I'm putting my financial shoulder to the wheel in Virginia. I want Webb gone. My wife can't stand him, and she's pretty moderate. I've never liked a turncoat. He's a New Deal Democrat, pitching his upbringing as a kind of righteous Virginia "Let Us Now Praise Famous Men" populist--after he'd already made his stack on GOP coattails through the Eighties. His candidacy was based on a market analysis, not on any principles; I only hope dearly that his analysis doesn't pan out over the long term. I was stunned that we'd allowed two Democrats to represent my state in the Senate; I was speechless that Obama won here. Jim Webb, no thanks. I know you were "Born Fighting!" Hope you'll go back to whatever holler you oozed out of and spread around some of that "Fields of Fire" money. Virginia is GOP country. We lost it; we'll regain it.

33 #28 hello??

34 "Obamacare must be repealed" needs to be the "Cartage must be destroyed" of the next two years.  EVERY speech in the Senate for the next two year needs to end with those words.

35

Laura Ingraham was on O'Lufah last night and said she brought on her radio show the lead attorney that brought the FL Obamacare suit forward and he said that SCOTUS would most likely hear this Jan of 2012. Which of course would be interesting timing in terms of the primaries.

But he also said they could completely bypass the 11th Circuit and fast track it to the SCOTUS if they wanted to.

I didn't hear the interview so I'm not really sure what the pro's/con's would be for approaching it one ways over another.

36 Thank God.  You evil Rethuglicans lose again.  My friends can and will have their health care and you can't stop it.  At least the Democrats are looking out for the little guy, unlike you people who just want to make the richer rich and make the poor get poorer.  Health care is a basic right!  If the rich have to give up a Ferrari or two, who cares?  They're greedy anyway. Mind you I don't know how an economy works, the concept of supply and demand, or any of that because that would require me to think before I step in dog shit. But why bother when I want someone else to clean it up? ELEVENTY MILLION BILLION!!!

THANK YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA!

37 I just want to put this out there, I am sick of snow!

38 Priorities, in this order: 1. Keep the House 2. Take the Senate 3. Defeat Obama

39 I think the only place where that incumbent resign scam would work is Montana.  Virginia, Nebraska, Michingan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida, New Jersey all have Rs in the Governor's seat.  I guess Missouri, but McCaskill isn't going away quietly.  I think a Republican wins Montana anyway, unless the current Dem Gov runs, and even then it'll be doable.

40 #36 Pretty obvious sock at this point, or someone who cannot debate their way out of a plastic bag pulled taught across their face. Oh wait...that isn't in the spirit of the new tone.

41 Why are these idiot Republicans voting to make the bill "better"? Let them tax people, let them have the shitty aspects. These fucking Democrats voted for this shit, let em own it. The only way any provision should be changed if Obama's power to fucking grant people waivers who donate to his campaign is taken away. That is fucking bullshit, one law for him and his fucking buddies, another law for everyone else. God these fucking people are stupid.

42

McCaskill's out in Missouri. People _hate_ her here.

Of course, we ought never to have voted Jim Talent out in the first place. He was a great young conservative Republican.

43 Missed is by that much, Chief.  Oh well, back to my diet of graft and pr0k.

44

And in far less pressing matters, the White Stripes officially broke up.

Damn.

45 Shep just said the military is "firing warning shots over the crowd"

46 #36 kayinmaine, is that you??

47 Snowe and Brown are out, buzz.

We're not gonna get to 60...ever. So let's cut the shit and stop setting the bar so high.

All we need is 51 good Republicans.

Posted by: soothsayer

Ever hear of this "filibuster" thing?  51 is great in that it's gets you control of the agenda, but we're not passing much until we're in the upper 50's at least.  Knocking out Snowe in a primary is dumb, knocking out Scott Brown would be borderline insane.

48 Snowe and Brown are out, buzz.

We're not gonna get to 60...ever. So let's cut the shit and stop setting the bar so high.

All we need is 51 good Republicans.

Posted by: soothsayer deeds done dirt cheap at February 02, 2011 06:59 PM (L0wbB)

 

I'm thinking 53 - 55 is doable.  It'll cancel out any squishyness we may encounter with some of the east coast republicans.  

49 BTW - from the roll call on the 1099 repeal that passed, these were the nays:

NAYs ---17
Akaka (D-HI)
Carper (D-DE)
Durbin (D-IL)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Whitehouse (D-RI)


All from blue states by the looks of it, except for the swingers of IA and NV.

50 Stab Me Now in Michigan

These are our targets in 2012.

Posted by: CAC at February 02, 2011 06:43 PM (Gr1V1)

Don't you mean "stab a cow"?

51

How about West Virginia Mancin?

 

He lied if he voted yes.  Manchin ran like a friggin' Republican when he got elected (strong second ammendment supporter, vowed to vote against Obamacare).  I couldn't believe he got elected, even though he had been a popular governor.  He's up for re-election in 2 years.  I hope the voters in that backwoods hole of West Vagina remember this. 

52 36 Health care is a basic right!

I cannot seem to find that in my copy of the U.S. Constitution.

53 Posted by: Kelly at February 02, 2011 07:01 PM (bZ4NL)

Thief.  Too bad for you it is unconstitutional.

54 OT

I no longer view Ace from home because the page loads too slow because of all the little embed videos in the sidebar. I would like to view this site form home but I can't bring myself to wait for it to load.

55

47

Reconciliation - it's not just a sacrament.

56 Related:

Gee, Robert Rubin sounds like an AOSHQ moron....at Davos.  How many times have we made these points on this blog?

Note to leftards--read carefully, because you can't tax your way out of this situation.

57 Thank God  Gaia.  You evil Rethuglicans Americans lose again.  My idiot friends can and will have  pretend to have their health care insurance and you until the Supreme Court can't stops it.  At least the Democrats are looking out for the little guy their well connected union and acorn buddies, unlike you people who just want to make the richer rich and make the poor get poorer America better for all.  Health care is a basic right need!  If the rich have to give up a Ferrari or two, only people who feed their familes care.  They're greedy productive anyway.

THANK  F YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA!

58 I think we have enough Republican Senators, what we need are more conservative ones.

59

Did I hear right though, that they did pass something to get rid of the onerous 1099 requirements?

 

Yeah, it passed overwhelmingly 81 I think to 17.  I think even Senators Kerry and Boxer voted yes.

You can always depend on Republicans to pull something out of the jaws of victory. 

60

#36 kayinmaine, is that you??

No. She didn't *spit*

Also, pretty sure it's a sock.

61 Since when does our Constitution grant us rights? And since when did we allow the government to grant us our rights?

62 Instead of streaming Savage the station is streaming steve mahlsberg, it seems no one is streaming savage.

Anyway, mahlsberg has a guy on who is very concerned that his sources in the middle east say that it is going to be taken over by the muslim brotherhood and this will be "BO's Iran"

scary stuff.

63 The Republicans need an amendment striking ALL of the exemptions from the health care law. Then we'll see the Democrats squirm.

64 63
The Republicans need an amendment striking ALL of the exemptions from the health care law.

Then we'll see the Democrats squirm.

Posted by: Leftover Soothsayers at February 02, 2011 07:14 PM (zgaoG)

They need an amendment that says that they have to give up their cadillac health care and join this cause remember when they were saying they wanted all Americans to have what they have and they out and out lied and then opted themselves and their union buddies out.  And stuck the people with this crap.

65

The Republicans need an amendment striking ALL of the exemptions from the health care law.

Then we'll see the Democrats squirm.

 

Absolutely.  Although it'll make Kelly and her dying, pre-existing friends ecstatic.

66 The Republicans also need to reform the Congressional pension plan -- as in eliminating it.

67 Anyway, mahlsberg has a guy on who is very concerned that his sources in the middle east say that it is going to be taken over by the muslim brotherhood and this will be "BO's Iran"

scary stuff.

Posted by: curious at February 02, 2011 07:12 PM (p302b)

 

That appears to be the plan. Obama loves him some strong Islamism.

68 All we needed was 4 more RINOS. How's that ideological purity thing working out?

69 Fuck you, Chris, that's how it's working out.

70

Close enough for government work.

I deem it passed!

71 54 Yeah same shit when i try to load this page from my Droid. It fucks up unless I click on the first article I see. Maybe this is why I just sockpuppet leftists anymore. BTW Kelly is me...I'll stop.

72 #59, I don't think 1099 repeal will detract from the argument against Obamacare.  It will be extremely onerous to businesses and be a good insurance policy in case the wind is blowing the wrong direction when Justice Kennedy makes his final decision on the matter.  I'd prefer it be reversed by a republican president or through the judiciary, but killing it by 1000 cuts is our next best option.

73 Yes, the key to victory in 2012 is more moderate candidates. We'll beat the Democrats by becoming more like the Democrats. Oh, that whole 'base sitting out the election' thing? Fuck it. Who needs the base in a presidential election year, anyway?

74 O/T:  read comments other places about a press blackout and didn't believe it but then drudge has this:  "WHCA Complains: Press Shut Out at White House"

75 yeah I love the sidebar items too but they are slowing up the reload on the page.

76 O/T: Google Exec missing in Cairo.

Can't they just "Bing" his name and find him?

77 Senator Warner: As my representative in the U.S. Senate, you are expected to deliver my voice on the critical issues of the time. To have missed the vote on repeal of President Obama's controversial healthcare plan is either negligence or political cowardice; neither is acceptable. President Obama has chosen to break the fiscal back of our nation by saddling taxpayers with an unbearable, ultimately disastrous financial burden. For you to have passed on a vote on an issue that affects millions of Americans speaks volumes about your concern for the welfare of my family and my future. I'd have had more respect for you if you'd voted, even if your vote was with the President. Not even to participate is really beyond the pale. Respectfully, xx (of course I signed it; "Railwriter" didn't seem fitting, though) Alexandria, VA

78 This is how we're gonna take back the country in 2012: Blue States? Fuck 'em.

79 Thank Allah I didn't have to veto the damn thing...

80 68 All we needed was 4 more RINOS. How's that ideological purity thing working out?

Posted by: Chris R at February 02, 2011 07:21 PM (QiNmA)

Very well. Thanks for asking.

81 If Warner didn't vote for it, who is #47 ?

82 Ohh nevermind, wrong Warner I'm thinking of.

83 Mark Warner is a D from V or WV. John Warner, the R, is retired.

84

The Republicans need to nominate several Rand Paul's.  That guy's speech on "compromise" was f**king phenomenal.

I hope the good ole' boys in West Virginia like how Manchin bent 'em over, Deliverance-style. 

Nice move, Appalachia.

85 Fuck Warner that skinny carpet bagging coward.

86 Mark Warner is a developers' tool come down from Massachusetts to irritate me in Virginia. He works on being inocuous, doesn't say stupid stuff and hides behind seeming reasonable BUT he always votes straight lefty bullshit. I swear he was elected because people thought they were still pulling the lever for senile John Warner who retired that same year.

87 Railwriter, that's where I am too. City or Fairfax county? I'm in the city with all the libs.

88 I don't know what to say about this other than we really need a lot more Republican senators.
...
Posted by: Ace at 06:42 PM

----

Ehhh, but what about Milton Friedman's advice is that what we need is not more of the right people voting the right way but rather the wrong people voting the right way.  What this failure tells me is that not enough of the public has the right attitude about crap like ObamaCare. If more Democrats believed it was impossible to survive while continuing to support this awefullness, then we could get this repleaed today.   Heck, even Joe Manchin thinks he can get away with supporting this law.  Where's the pressure from his home state?  To that end, what happened to the advertising campaign against govt. healthcare?

Bottom line is that we're the problem, not the Senators in D.C.

89 Lighten up on Warner.  He has more important things to do than vote.  Such as:

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) popped into Facebook's headquarters recently to hang out with its chief executive, Mark Zuckerberg, and pop singer Katy Perry. He sent a message to his more than 16,000 followers on Twitter that the trio discussed the "need to support innovation in America."

90 Dick Pole! Dick Pole! Dick Pole! Dick Pole! Dick Pole!

91 "He sent a message to his more than 16,000 followers on Twitter that the trio discussed the "need to support innovation in America."" Like how to cover your boobies when they pop out while filming Sesame Street innovation???

92 Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) popped into Facebook's headquarters recently to hang out with its chief executive, Mark Zuckerberg, and pop singer Katy Perry. He sent a message to his more than 16,000 followers on Twitter that the trio discussed the "need to support innovation in America."

Not only is the national serious switch in the "off" position, it has apparently been ripped out the wall and thrown down the nearest sewer drain.

93 #92   Yeah.  Oh,  and don't forget Obama invited J-Lo to watch the Super Bowl!

Meanwhile,  Obama has told us we need to "make stuff."

Churchill these guys are not.

94 I'm in Ffx County, with an Alex mailing address; coin-toss, really. I live just south of Old Town. Jay McConville was our sacrificial lamb recently; good guy. Mark Warner is, as a previous commenter mentioned, a goofy carpetbagger. Jim Webb is a turncoat. Jim Moran, in the House, is a perpetual excuse to drink too much. Anyone who knows anything about the VA GOP knows that it's completely dysfunctional. What's a Virginian to do? Think up a good cocktail-party excuse for "the 'macaca' incident."

95 wicked shockah?

96 I am calling on America's medical industry to perfect accurate versions of Katy Perry's implants that can be made affordable for all women!

97 BTW - twitpic of Warner and Perry at the Facebook Lair of Evil:

twitpic.com/3rouvl

Might actually let the guy slide on this one.  Nice!

98 No sweat. Just pass it with reconciliation under President Palin in 2013 and it's history.

99 Her boobs are bigger than Zuckerberg's head.

100 >>Warner twitpic<< What a tool. I nearly thanked him in Bastille in n. Old Town for not bailing on gun owners. Glad I saved the handshake. I'm not made of 'em.

101 Perry alluded to the outing the day before it occurred, posting a photo of herself and Zuckerberg on separate magazine covers. "FACEBOOK HERE I COME!" she tweeted.

She didn't appear to mention Warner in any comments. Day-of tweets included notes to friends and a photo of an animal bed shaped like the head of a cat.


This country, she is doomed.....

102 George (gulp) Allen for Senate. Can my beloved Commonwealth have come to this?

103

Think up a good cocktail-party excuse for "the 'macaca' incident."

I actually know George and his family. They lived across the street when he was a congressman. George's mother is a piece of work and I can completely understand how she would have said that while he was growing up and he just thought it was a nonsense word. She is the cheapest human on the planet followed by George--which is fine in a politician not so much in a husband and father.

104 As Derbyshire says, "pop culture is filth."

105
Bottom line is that we're the problem, not the Senators in D.C.

Posted by: Serious Cat at February 02, 2011 07:34 PM (bAySe)

What about the MFUCKINGM?

Until it's made clear the dangers of govt controlled healthcare and why they want to control it, it's not us but the fools that think that they're getting something for free.  That's the ultimate BIG LIE.

The MFM isn't just derelict, it's treasonous.

Oh yeah, and they bent the cost curve to save money, right, another big one right there.

106

 I'm putting my financial shoulder to the wheel in Virginia. I want Webb gone.

Hopefully you won't have to work too hard.  Insty had a link that said Webb has only raised $14K this cycle.

The R candidates are going to be formidable.  Nobody I know wants George Allen back.  The three that have an interest in running are the Richmond Tea Party Founder (Jamie Radtke),  a conservative delegate (Bob Marshall),  and Prince William supervisor (Corey Stewart).  The latter was fierce and effective in ridding his county of illegals -- much to the chagrin of his detractors.  Of these three candidates, they've agreed to let the best candidate win (no 3rd-party dilutions with I's running).

107 Dagny--you be sure and tell him (if he's still in your orbit) that I'll stroke him a check when he can explain what his answer for the obvious question will be... ...and Jamie Radtke? God help us.

108 But Manchin shot the healthcare bill in his commercial! He must have voted for repeal, right?

109 George was very McCain-like in his last campaign. He didn't touch on Webb being bat-shit crazy.

110 Rushbabe: Corey Stewart is solid. The other two? Umm, not so much.

111 Sorry to interrupt,  but what in the hell is this:

From Twitter, IvanCNN:
Tahrir Square Opposition loudspeaker: "Jihad! Jihad! Your martyrdom is coming!" telling sleeping protesters to wake up, head to the museumThat announcement doesn't sound like pro-democracy types.

112 Not a SINGLE Democrat voted for repeal. Not a one. Truly, they are Socialist fanatics. We must redouble our efforts to take this abomination down. And I don't mean just Obamacare.

113

Manchin shot cap n' trade.

My son at WVU said that if Manchin had shot an effigy of Obama, he would have gotten 100% of the WV vote. They hate him up there. Manchin had better watch his Ps and Qs. They kept Sheets Byrd in there for a reason and it wasn't all pork.

114 OK,  let me fix it.  I never understand how this site's posting works.

From Twitter, IvanCNN:

Tahrir Square Opposition loudspeaker: "Jihad! Jihad! Your martyrdom is coming!" telling sleeping protesters to wake up, head to the museum.


That announcement doesn't sound like pro-democracy types.

115

I actually know George and his family. They lived across the street when he was a congressman. George's mother is a piece of work and I can completely understand how she would have said that while he was growing up and he just thought it was a nonsense word. She is the cheapest human on the planet followed by George--which is fine in a politician not so much in a husband and father.

Posted by: dagny at February 02, 2011 07:46 PM (ZuJDg)

dagny, let's dish.  I recently spoke with an old guy who used to be on Geo. Allen's security detail when he was governor.  He said he was the rudest, foul-mouthed hayseed you could imagine in private but knew how to switch it off in public.

His wife seems quite a few steps above him.

116 111 Not surprised.

117 WV. NV. DEL.

118 Dagny: Let's face it, the entire Allen "hillbilly shitkicker with a University eddication" schtick is tired. It was old years ago, and I was amazed that National Review had him as the poster-boy for 2008 prior to his meltdown. Even so, he knows a lot of long pockets, and his positions are acceptable. Bob Marshall is too far out. I've lived in Virginia for 30 years, and my folks live in PW County. He's a dud. Corey Stewart I could get behind, and I'll bet PW County thanks him for his efforts by pushing hard for him.

119

#63 is right.

Make them vote on the exemptions.

It will be hilarious to watch Patty Murray argue that McDonald's deserves to get out from under this. But every other restaurant chain (and list them one-by-one) has to comply. Funny stuff.

120 Ben Nelson is in a great deal of trouble in Nebraska.

121 Corey Stewart is solid. The other two? Umm, not so much.

Posted by: railwriter at February 02, 2011 07:53 PM (daRzV)

I saw Marshall in action last week at the General Assembly.  I was embarrassed for him.  His wife kept stage whispering while he was at the podium addressing a committee of delegates.  He came off as old and ineffectual, although he's supposed to have a solid record.

I wasn't sold on Jamie R., but a local politico told me tons of stuff about her that I didn't know -- like how she briefs some cong. critters on the Hill and is well-spoken and liked.  She used to work for the state GOP but got so disgusted that she quit and went to the Tea Party.

Stewart gave our patriot group a presentation, and he was good...maybe a little too polished.

122

Allen is tired and I was too pissed at him during the last campaign. Webb isn't that safe.

dagny, let's dish.  I recently spoke with an old guy who used to be on Geo. Allen's security detail when he was governor.  He said he was the rudest, foul-mouthed hayseed you could imagine in private but knew how to switch it off in public.

His wife seems quite a few steps above him.

Susan Allen is lovely. George is a dick. When he had little kids, 4 and 2ish, he made susan cover their plates if they didn't finish and feed it to them over and over again at every meal until they ate it. He'd leave and she'd take them to Shoney's. Bought the oldest a knock off barbie. He married Susan (second marriage) and brought her back to his cabin/house which was full of snakes. He got redistricted. I admire his cheapness for fiscal sanity reasons but he's no nice guy. Then again, neither were his parents.

123 Well that's over with!

124 the muslim excemptions...and those fucking Amish, too

125 I always suspected Mark Warner was sick with the hivs.

126 Mark Warner looks like Eunice Shriver.

127 We can't afford the bloated government programs we have now. Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid are in a state of collapse.

For Democrats, it's not the money - they want  the power to subjugate and control people.

128

Posted by: dagny at February 02, 2011 08:02 PM (ZuJDg)

George seemed almost comatose the last election, bored out of his skull.  I don't think Webb is safe at all.  I never hear dems talk about him, and repubs only beeotch about him.

The Times-Dispatch did a "truth-o-meter" article about a Radtke quote about the millions George's votes have added to the deficit and how much he has cost Virginians every day that he was in office.  I don't remember the exact figures, but it was amazing how close she was.

129 George is a dick. When he had little kids, 4 and 2ish, he made susan cover their plates if they didn't finish and feed it to them over and over again at every meal until they ate it.

I was raised to eat everything mom made for us.  If we fussed about it there were beatings and then we were forced to eat it anyway.

130 Mark Warner takes a page out of the Obama playbook and votes "present". Can we redo Blutarski's speech in Animal House? Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor? Manchin-gone; Warner-gone;McCaskill-gone:Nelson-gone; Landrieux-gone For President in 2012 ABO. Anyone But Obama

131 Damn, Dagny. I thought the whole hayseed thing was a calculated applique--had no idea the guy was serious about "I killed a squirrel at UVa and ate it!" kind of antics. >>He married Susan (second marriage) and brought her back to his cabin/house which was full of snakes.<< Well played, but the punchline always goes at the end of the joke, a la perfunctory Colonial-era diary entries: "...which was full of snakes. It was his second marriage."

132 dagny, let's dish. I recently spoke with an old guy who used to be on Geo. Allen's security detail when he was governor. He said he was the rudest, foul-mouthed hayseed you could imagine in private but knew how to switch it off in public. His wife seems quite a few steps above him. Posted by: RushBabe at February 02, 2011 07:55 PM (urYpw) Think Jamie Ratke stands a chance in the primary against him?

133 21 Worth noting that Snowe and  Brown (Mass) voted for repeal.  We can hold Lugar's seat without him, but knocking either of these two out in a primary would be really stupid.  You don't get from 47 to 60 by subtracting. 

Posted by: buzz at February 02, 2011 06:56 PM (i27M5)

Remember this next election, when you here people screeching "We can't nominate a moderate because they'll always just vote with the Democrats!"

134 The Times-Dispatch did a "truth-o-meter" article about a Radtke quote about the millions George's votes have added to the deficit and how much he has cost Virginians every day that he was in office. I don't remember the exact figures, but it was amazing how close she was. Posted by: RushBabe at February 02, 2011 08:07 PM (urYpw) nbc12.com/Global/link.asp?L=347753

135 Am I still allowed to screech "We can't nominate a moderate because they'll almost always just vote with the Democrats!" ??

136 I no longer view Ace from home because the page loads too slow because of all the little embed videos in the sidebar. I would like to view this site form home but I can't bring myself to wait for it to load.

NoScript is your friend, friend.

137

I saw Marshall in action last week at the General Assembly.  I was embarrassed for him.  His wife kept stage whispering while he was at the podium addressing a committee of delegates.  He came off as old and ineffectual, although he's supposed to have a solid record.

I wasn't sold on Jamie R., but a local politico told me tons of stuff about her that I didn't know -- like how she briefs some cong. critters on the Hill and is well-spoken and liked.  She used to work for the state GOP but got so disgusted that she quit and went to the Tea Party.

Stewart gave our patriot group a presentation, and he was good...maybe a little too polished.

It's stuff like this that makes me look at the candidates in Virginia and cry. Not only are they all terrible so far, they could help deliver the state to Obama.  Allen is a retread who really is a nasty piece of work in private ("macaca" is just the tip of the iceberg, people...just the tip), Bob Marshall is flat-out fucking insane (you thought Sharron Angle was a loser of a candidate?  Get ready for the Marshall experience!) and Radtke and Stewart will have tire treads on their backs from NoVA voters are done with them. 

We gotta find somebody who can take that seat.  Cantor could do it easy, but he'll never give up his seat.  A shame that Morgan Griffith just got elected to Congress, he would do a great job too.

138 I FUCKING HATE THE WAY THE COMMENTS WORK ON THIS MORONBLOG.  Half the time all my formatting is shot to shit from copy-pasting.

139 I moved to Nebraska late last year. 
Voting against Nelson wasn't the reason, but it'll be a pretty darn good side-benefit.

140 Stewart will have tire treads on their backs from NoVA voters are done with them.

No, I heard Stewart on a local radio show, and he was very good.  He doesn't have to win NoVa (although I think he could), just keep the margin low enough that the rest of the state can make up for it.  As to Allen, yeah, I've heard he's a real ass.

141 So, the heist is still on?

142 >>We gotta find somebody who can take that seat.<< John McConnell can take that seat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Michael_McConnell

143 No, I heard Stewart on a local radio show, and he was very good.  He doesn't have to win NoVa (although I think he could), just keep the margin low enough that the rest of the state can make up for it.  As to Allen, yeah, I've heard he's a real ass.

I've seen George Allen treat people (who did nothing but serve him faithfully) worse than the shit he scraped off of his shoe, and I've seen him using the some of the worst (and frankly racist) language you could imagine merely because he considered himself to be "among friends."  I honestly did not feel even a speck of regret when he lost in 2006 due to his own self-inflicted idiocy. At the very least it put an end to that ridiculous "Allen for President" boomlet, which I still hold against National Review when assessing their ability to judge character of conservative politicians.

He's literally Greg Stillson (from Stephen King's Dead Zone - look it up) come to life, IMO.  Not only would I never support him in the primary, I would vote for the Libertarian (or whatever third-party candidate was available) if he made it to the general election.  He's that rotten.

144 It will be hilarious to watch Patty Murray argue that McDonald's deserves to get out from under this. But every other restaurant chain (and list them one-by-one) has to comply. Funny stuff.

Maybe the next amendment should be to exempt businesses, by name.  Hundreds of them.  Just get them out of the phone book.

Personalize it.

145 railwriter -

John McConnell is exactly the sort of profile who would take the seat in a walk.  If he ran (and if his positions weren't otherwise unacceptable, like opposing O-care repeal or something crazy like that) I'd take him over any of the guys currently in the race.

146 For somw reason, the elderly and jock-sniffers in central VA love George Allen, who strikes me as an arrogant idiot. These people can't wait to get George back. No rereuns, any more than Virgil Goode was going to make a come back against SorosButtBoyPerriello.

147 I just had a devious thought.
Let's beat the left at their own game.
Let's create a fakey organization that exposes all the bullshit waivers that these companies doing, but from the point of view of "traitorous companies who are trying to subvert health care reform".

148 Think Jamie Ratke stands a chance in the primary against him?

Posted by: Dave C at February 02, 2011 08:15 PM (SSfDu)

The Times-Distress pointed out that she already has a constituency of 80K (Tea Party).  I forgot to add that she's a good speaker and quick on her feet.  She'd definitely stand a primary bid with all those TPM members and their recommendations to friends and family.  I'd prob'ly give Stewart the edge, though, seeing how many Messicans he cleared out of his county and how grateful the people are.   I'd like to see Stewart and Radtke in a debate.

149

For some reason, the elderly and jock-sniffers in central VA love George Allen, who strikes me as an arrogant idiot. These people can't wait to get George back.

I've seen that firsthand with my new neighbor.  He's in his early 60s and thinks the sun rises and sets on George.  Howevah, our Richmond talk-radio guy has tons of arrows in his (anti) Allen and (anti) Cantor quiver.  When he gets going, he decimates them both.

150 Thanks to people here for confirming what I thought from observing that "macaca" clip of Allen.

My impression at the time was that he thought he was among buddies who would appreciate his little joke,  that he was a bully,  and that he was really stupid,  because he didn't know about cell-phone cameras and YouTube.

(I consider this really stupid, as I am a 62-year old housewife and grandma and would never ignore someone pointing a phone at me,  let alone make insulting comments about them.)

It also makes me wonder if anyone who pushed him as a viable candidate really knew him at all.

151 Jon Tester. Freedom molester.

152 Getting rid of McCaskill is great, in theory, but who are the Republicans going to run in Missouri? I haven't heard any names that jump out at me, and Missouri is big on name recognition. In the mean time, she gets on the radio, doing her best impersonation of a Republican, then goes back to Washington and votes a straight Obamalove line. She's an effective campaigner, and of course she has the full support of the St. Louis Post Disgrace, as well as whatever passes for a newspaper in KC, I'm sure.

153 I still think that Webb isn't going to run again, that Perriello is, and the left would LOVE to go up against a putz like Allen. I have $10 on this bet...

154 For somw reason, the elderly and jock-sniffers in central VA love George Allen, who strikes me as an arrogant idiot.


Talked to a State Sen. (who shall remain nameless) and he is solidly in the Allen corner..

155 And BTW, retarded West Virginia voters: your boy Joe Manchin--you know, the fucking ""conservative"" Democrat who said he was going to "take aim" at Obamacare--voted with his far-Left Democrat buds against this bill. Let me make this simple for you: Manchin voted to keep Obamacare in place, basically giving his constituents the finger. Good job dumbasses. No wonder you fucktards are laughed at by the rest of the country. Inbred fucks.

156 "I don't know what to say about this other than we really need a lot more Republican senators."

You don't fuckin' say?

157 You don't fuckin' say?
Posted by: Mike Castle

Sad to say that the people who follow politics and vote in primaries didn't think so..

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