March 24, 2011

One-Woman Brain Trust of Andrea Mitchell Defines Obama Doctrine
— Ace

"It's emerging," she says.

So let's parse this. The Obama Doctrine, per Renaissance woman and executive fellatrix Andrea Mitchell, consists of four parts:

1) "When you have a catastrophe you can avert"

2) "and the benefits outweigh the costs"

3) "and you have an international or multilateral support"

4) "Go for it."

1 almost always exists in the world.

2 is just a restatement of the simple utilitarian idea of "if the good outweighs the bad," a calculation so obvious every person on the face of the planet, including the most stupid among us, does it at least six times per day, while making mundane purchases like toilet paper. (One ply? Two ply? Double sized rolls? Cottony feel? "It's like a day-spa for your ass"?!?!)

But more importantly, this is like the "???" in the Gnomes' business model. This is of course the key question -- when do the costs exceed the benefits? According to what criteria? Defined against what imperatives? In support of what goals?

That is largely unanswerable, and the whole point of a doctrine is to announce relative priorities to make this question at least ballpark answerable or subject, at least, to some kind of analysis with defined parameters. Doctor Andrea Mitchell doesn't seem aware of this, and for her, simply asking if the costs exceed the benefits is a terrificly probing question.

3 is so obvious George W. Bush used it as a criterion too. Except the French weren't on board with his coalition. So she really means France. Once again. It's what they always mean. The last time the US went to war without foreign partners was, I think, the Punitive Expedition against Pancho Villa.

Yeah. It's been a while, huh?

4 is a categorical imperative derived from the philosophy of Rocco "Rocky" Balboa in his dialogues with Clubber Lang.

And there's your Obama Doctrine. If Mickey's dead, and you're being trained by Apollo Creed (who counts as a sovereign power due to his titles of "The King of Sting" and "The Count of Monte Fisto"), and you have permission from the French foreign minister, you should, per this elaborate, sophisticated doctrine, "Go for it."

Via Greg Hengler. Thanks to Ben.

Posted by: Ace at 07:26 AM | Comments (182)
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1 It's emerging eh,Andrea?I bet it is.

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2011 07:27 AM (ibfOH)

2 Why, that doesn't sound like a real doctrine at all!

Posted by: Tom in Korea at March 24, 2011 07:29 AM (+gX1+)

3 It sounds like they're making things up as they go along.  For political expediency.

Which is understandable, but far from honest.

Posted by: Tom in Korea at March 24, 2011 07:29 AM (+gX1+)

4 Holy shit, those criteria are so loose it makes Charlie Sheen horny.

Posted by: EC at March 24, 2011 07:31 AM (GQ8sn)

5 Doesn't she mean 'Crowning'?

Posted by: Radagast the Proctologist at March 24, 2011 07:31 AM (kZ8J9)

6

and have a Russian crowd cheering you on

Ahem...

Posted by: Vladimir Putin at March 24, 2011 07:31 AM (SCcgT)

7 3 is so obvious George W. Bush used it as a criterion too. Except the French weren't on board with his coalition. So she really means France. Once again. It's what they always mean.

Actually France and Russia.

So I guess we now know - an action is only moral when Vladimir Putin and the French government approve.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 24, 2011 07:31 AM (bgcml)

8

1) "When you have a catastrophe you can avert"

2) "and the benefits outweigh the costs"

3) "and you have an international or multilateral support"

4) "Go for it."

I notice one missing piece. An actual plan.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 24, 2011 07:33 AM (bgcml)

9 The Russians don't approve.The French and Brits are getting their dirty work (mostly)done for them by this clueless fuck.

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2011 07:34 AM (ibfOH)

10 Form AT: The Lethal Dhimmitude of Our Armed Forces

But US troops are not just needlessly -- and lethally -- endangered by our misbegotten COIN strategy in Afghanistan -- they are being simultaneously humiliated as classic when their so-called military leaders-cum-deranged-social workers apply Islamic Law to "guide" the actions of our brave fighters in the irredentist Afghan Muslim morass.

Who can win with this strategy?


Posted by: sTevo at March 24, 2011 07:35 AM (dHZ/U)

11 yeah I changed the Russian thing and put in more jokes. Loose shit. The new analogy is better.

Posted by: ace at March 24, 2011 07:35 AM (nj1bB)

12
It's also evolving.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at March 24, 2011 07:35 AM (1tFVW)

13 9 Smart diplomacy on their part,even if it is unfair taking advantage of a retard.

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2011 07:35 AM (ibfOH)

14

I notice one missing piece. An actual plan.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 24, 2011 11:33 AM (bgcml)

Plans are for people who didn't go to Harvard.

Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 24, 2011 07:35 AM (WvFvd)

15 God A'mighty- I haven't witnessed so much stupid in one person in eons.

I'm going back to the Doom Loop- it's less discouraging...

Posted by: backhoe at March 24, 2011 07:36 AM (0bk6W)

16 Flipping through the channels on tv yesterday, I accidentally paused in the wrong place.  Anyone see yesterday where Andrea Mitchell was interviewing some 12 year old kid about the merits of Obamacare?  What a stupid bitch.  I can't believe my Mom watches that channel.

Posted by: NC Ref at March 24, 2011 07:36 AM (/izg2)

17 You plan, I laugh.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at March 24, 2011 07:36 AM (kZ8J9)

18 Damn, too much coffee this morning. Gotta run, "it's emerging"...

Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2011 07:37 AM (FcR7P)

19 IÂ’m convinced Sarkozy & Cameron conspired to pull O'Dipshit into this no-fly zone bullshit and then bail out as soon as we took a dominate roll, thereby dropping the whole mess into his lap. He'll pay some price for this at election time. We all know these two guys canÂ’t stand the S.O.B.

Posted by: Suike Tawdry at March 24, 2011 07:37 AM (MPtFW)

20

Have you ever driven along on the highway and passed another vehicle, who was travelling at a much lower speed only to see them in your rearview a short time later, right up on you doing the same speed  ?

That sums up his doctrine. Too much of a pussy to take the lead for fear of ridicule (or a traffic ticket) so instead, waiting for someone else to make a command decision then getting in line right behind them.

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at March 24, 2011 07:37 AM (oW269)

21 "It's emerging," she says.

That's one way of saying "I'm pulling it out of my ass", I suppose...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at March 24, 2011 07:38 AM (PMGbu)

22 Mr. President, is that your Doctrine emerging, or are you just happy to see me?

Posted by: Andrea "Cavernous" Mitchell at March 24, 2011 07:38 AM (McG46)

23 Obama Doctrine. It's emerging. We call that "Prarie Dogging" in the Midwest.

Posted by: Roy at March 24, 2011 07:39 AM (VndSC)

24 3) "and you have an international or multilateral support" Brilliant, let's bomb Israel! Plenty of support for that. Hell, let's just rent out the military to the UN.

Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2011 07:39 AM (FcR7P)

25 Hey Andrea,"got moisture"?

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2011 07:39 AM (ibfOH)

26

 Too much of a pussy to take the lead for fear of ridicule so instead, waiting for someone else to make a command decision then getting in line right behind them.

 

Don't you mean... 'In front of''?

Posted by: MO - First Pegger of the United States at March 24, 2011 07:40 AM (kZ8J9)

27 I'm sorry, but this starts to read like something Reporter Lili Von Schtupp would be saying about President Black Bart in 'Blazing Saddles 2'.

There's far too much low-hanging fruit to even start to make jokes.

Posted by: JEM at March 24, 2011 07:41 AM (o+SC1)

28
This administration does have a great plan, but members of the unwashed proletariat do not have the intelligence or ability to analyze the data to form a worthy opinion.  This analogy doesn't include members of the Ivy League, SEIU, Code Pink, or my friend Bernie Finsterwald who helped me cheat on Mr. Parker's 8th grade math exam.

Posted by: Joe "Mr Conductor" Biden at March 24, 2011 07:41 AM (ZHsNw)

29

So Alan Greenspan didn't marry her for her smarts.  Or her looks.  She must have some other talent, if you know what I mean.  Wink. 

Posted by: Matt at March 24, 2011 07:41 AM (ecpMe)

30
"Mr. Obama, what has enchanted you the most?"
--NYT Rump Swab
April, 2009

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at March 24, 2011 07:41 AM (1tFVW)

31 Who can win with this strategy?


Posted by: sTevo at March 24, 2011 11:35 AM (dHZ/U)

Made about five different introductions to my post to describe just how much that article infuriates me, but they all ended up feeling pretty hollow.  That this is being pushed onto our troops drives one nearly to madness.

Utter insanity.  How long before we recognize it?

Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 24, 2011 07:41 AM (WvFvd)

32 Emerging all right.  He is trying to pull it out his narrow ass.

Posted by: USMC Steve at March 24, 2011 07:42 AM (mqp9H)

33 "It sounds like they're making things up as they go along." That's my deepest problem with this. This administration is acting with an implied directive of "trust me" to the American people. My response to that is, "no."

Posted by: Steven Seagal at March 24, 2011 07:42 AM (Pzf4N)

34 Has the cerebral giant, Contessa Brewer, weighed in on this vexing issue?

Posted by: Fritz at March 24, 2011 07:42 AM (GwPRU)

35 Should I play golf today?

1) "When you have a catastrophe you can avert" - I get fussy if I don't play golf.

2) "and the benefits outweigh the costs" - It's pretty much free,  for me.

3) "and you have an international or multilateral support" - No one's complained so far!

4) "Go for it." - Four!


Posted by: Barry O'Bama at March 24, 2011 07:42 AM (TXKVh)

36 32 Do our troops have to bathe their feet before prayers?

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2011 07:43 AM (ibfOH)

37 When you have a catastrophe you can avert, and the benefits outweigh the costs, wait four weeks until you're on vacation in Brazil and a French PM seeking a political gain for domestic re-election purposes gins up a coalition, then hastily sign on to do all the heavy lifting without consulting or addressing Congress or the nation, because you're too busy learning how to tango (Objection).

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 24, 2011 07:43 AM (oSMOM)

38

There's far too much low-hanging fruit to even start to make jokes

There's no resemblance to fruit.

Posted by: Andrea 'Tick Tits' Mitchell at March 24, 2011 07:43 AM (kZ8J9)

39 And there's your Obama Doctrine. If Mickey's dead, and you're being trained by Apollo Creed (who counts as a sovereign power due to his titles of "The King of Sting" and "The Count of Monte Fisto"), and you have permission from the French foreign minister, you should, per this elaborate, sophisticated doctrine, "Go for it." That was sheer fuckin' poetry.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at March 24, 2011 07:43 AM (U9jjw)

40 Tweeted by reporter at LATimes:

Billboard in Hollywood

Posted by: momma at March 24, 2011 07:43 AM (penCf)

41 Sounds like a good doctrine to me.

Posted by: Chauncey Gardner at March 24, 2011 07:43 AM (bgcml)

42 Didn't he flat out state that he was "volunteering" American forces to do this for international interests?

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2011 07:44 AM (ibfOH)

43 Brilliant, let's bomb Israel! Plenty of support for that. Hell, let's just rent out the military to the UN.

Posted by: t-bird at March 24, 2011 11:39 AM (FcR7P)

Rent?  Hell..... we'll pay for it. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 24, 2011 07:44 AM (yQWNf)

44

The Obama Doctrine

It's kinetic.

Posted by: hit and run at March 24, 2011 07:44 AM (ihLiz)

45

Posted by: momma at March 24, 2011 11:43 AM (penCf)


Got a 404, ma'am.  Link error?

Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 24, 2011 07:45 AM (WvFvd)

46 Barack will pull out of Libya faster than I pull out Andrea's anal beads.

Posted by: Alan Greenspan at March 24, 2011 07:45 AM (kZ8J9)

47

This Presidentin is a piece of cake. NBC does all my splainin for me.

Now watch this drive. fore!

Posted by: Barry O at March 24, 2011 07:45 AM (K/USr)

48 44 No.We Pay, cowboy.For now.

Posted by: china at March 24, 2011 07:45 AM (ibfOH)

49 Having someone else you can blame is an integral part of the "Obama Doctrine."

Like Bush.

Posted by: huerfano at March 24, 2011 07:45 AM (2pEj7)

50 "It's emerging."

Posted by: That eloquent guy shitting a Lego® at March 24, 2011 07:46 AM (TXKVh)

51 47 You sir have gone too far.

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2011 07:46 AM (ibfOH)

52 There is no Obama Doctrine.

There's a Samantha Power/Susan Rice doctrine.   There is an Obama tee-time.

What we're seeing here is a bunch of academics trying to figure out executive authority, and it's not a pretty sight.

Posted by: JEM at March 24, 2011 07:46 AM (o+SC1)

53 "It's like a day-spa for your ass"?!?! One of the reasons I love AoS. IÂ’m convinced Sarkozy & Cameron conspired to pull O'Dipshit into this no-fly zone bullshit and then bail out as soon as we took a dominate roll, thereby dropping the whole mess into his lap. [Sarkozy and Cameron, laughing behind their hands, watch Obama walking by] SARKOZY: Hey, Barack, we have, how you say, ze offer you can't refuse! CAMERON: Yes, quite. You see Barack, there's this place called Libya, old bean, and if you bomb it you get to, what is the expression you Yanks use, drive Qaddafy's Hershey Highway, what? OBAMA: [Visibly excited] You mean I can... SARKOZY: [Nodding vigorously] Oui oui! OBAMA: And then I can... CAMERON: [Nodding vigorously] Yes yes! OBAMA: Oh boy!

Posted by: joncelli at March 24, 2011 07:46 AM (RD7QR)

54 I don't follow anyone on twitter but after reading Iowahawk, I may have to.

Ace, your twitter?

Posted by: Hedgehog at March 24, 2011 07:46 AM (Rn2kl)

55 obama is ground hogging his doctrine.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 24, 2011 07:47 AM (Cm66w)

56 "Have you ever driven along on the highway and passed another vehicle, who was travelling at a much lower speed only to see them in your rearview a short time later, right up on you doing the same speed ?" While your analogy is a perfect description of the situation, I see that shitstain, Princess Barack, more as the passive-aggressive asshole that comes up really fast behind you as you are passing a number of cars, rides your ass until you can get back out of the passing lane, and then slows down when he realizes that he's running point for speed traps but continues to hang in the passing lane because he's a fucking douchebag.

Posted by: Steven Seagal at March 24, 2011 07:48 AM (Pzf4N)

57 Obama War Doctrine Song

It's Kinetic!

You can't see it
It's kinetic!
You gotta feel it
It's kinetic!
Ooh, it's shakin'
It's kinetic!

You gotta know it

It's kinetic
Boogie woogie, woogie!
Now you can't hold it
It's kinetic
Boogie woogie, woogie!
But you know it's there,
Yeah here there everywhere


Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at March 24, 2011 07:48 AM (1tFVW)

58 Obama went to Brazil so he could arrange his massive payoff from the Kinetic Military Complex in person.

Posted by: Lincolntf at March 24, 2011 07:48 AM (xMT+4)

59 19 IÂ’m convinced Sarkozy & Cameron conspired to pull O'Dipshit into this no-fly zone bullshit and then bail out as soon as we took a dominate roll, thereby dropping the whole mess into his lap. He'll pay some price for this at election time. We all know these two guys canÂ’t stand the S.O.B.

They hate him and also don't trust him, so the above strategy saves Euro oil contracts how?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at March 24, 2011 07:48 AM (UO6+e)

60 Its emerging like the Alien in the first movie.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at March 24, 2011 07:48 AM (71LDo)

61 Andrea Mitchell...? You know it.

Posted by: Will Folks at March 24, 2011 07:48 AM (nj1bB)

62 Prez must have a buzz-word generator.

  Cross-platform  hybrid  protocol came up, could be the new word for doctrine.

Posted by: sTevo at March 24, 2011 07:48 AM (dHZ/U)

63

So...let me get this straight...

We have to weigh "catastrophes" on a cost/benefit curve, obtain multilateral support and then act.

Four factors for consideration that all exist on a continuum, NOT as dichotomies.  It's all very nuanced, allows Howard Dean to sleep at night after one of the greatest politically hypocritical statements in history, and will power the country for generations from hooking up a turbine to the near-speed-of-light revolutions the body of Harry Truman is now doing.

 

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 24, 2011 07:49 AM (B+qrE)

64
“On a scale of 1 to 10, I was a 12”

-Andrea Mitchell

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at March 24, 2011 07:49 AM (ZHsNw)

65

Let me be perfectly clear, the Obama Doctrine is to announce a unitary executive decision for kinetic military action as part of overseas contingency operations to avert man-made disasters as an investment in hope and change

Posted by: beedubya at March 24, 2011 07:49 AM (AnTyA)

66

Yeah.  "Go for it" isn't a plan. 

"Go for it" is what you do when you're eating chicken wings, and you're really full, but there's like only two left on the plate.

Posted by: Truman North at March 24, 2011 07:50 AM (8ay4x)

67 sorry, link fixed (I think)

Tweeted by reporter at LATimes:

Billboard in Hollywood

Posted by: momma at March 24, 2011 07:50 AM (penCf)

68 Andrea honey.  Stupid + butt-ugly is no way to go through life.

"Odyssey Dawn"......sigh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 24, 2011 07:51 AM (UOM48)

69

 sorry, link fixed (I think)

No.... damn you

Posted by: beedubya at March 24, 2011 07:51 AM (AnTyA)

70 Billboard (really fixed this time) UGH. Is it Friday yet?

Posted by: momma at March 24, 2011 07:51 AM (penCf)

71

1) "When you have a catastrophe you can avert"

2) "and the benefits outweigh the costs"

3) "and you have an international or multilateral support"

4) "Go for it."

I notice one missing piece. An actual plan.

This one's too short.  The health care plan is too long.  There's no pleasing you people.

Posted by: BO at March 24, 2011 07:51 AM (GMG6W)

72 Damned sock with a robot gait.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at March 24, 2011 07:51 AM (Pzf4N)

73 'going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion'

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at March 24, 2011 07:52 AM (tvs2p)

74

The last time the US went to war without foreign partners was, I think, the Punitive Expedition against Pancho Villa.

Grenada?  Panama?

Posted by: ed at March 24, 2011 07:52 AM (Y2WVW)

75
**Achtüng**

Incoming transmission from Moonbat One

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at March 24, 2011 07:52 AM (1tFVW)

76 So,you're on a desert island with Andrea Mitchell and Elenore Clift.....

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2011 07:52 AM (ibfOH)

77 We have to start pounding it into the American people's head that the democratic position on Iraq, Afghanistan, and in general is:"The GOP will never get to run a foreign policy because the DNC and France say so."

That is the double bind they are trying to get the GOP to cave to.

Fwance will never approve a GOP coalition because the GOP will never allow the Fwench to scoop up all the loot as brazenly as they like.

The Fwench give approval to the Donk led coalitions because they know the donks will defer to Fwance on executive issues and look the other way while Fwance makes contracts with the aftermath.

The Donks through their incestuous relationship with the MFM will shitstir and riot over any GOP effort no matter how needed because like Emperor Palpatine they are all about POWER UNLIMITED POWER! and they know the American people notice we're better at protecting US interests with minimal force used for maximum gain.

If we do not take control of and highlight the inherent hypocrisy in the actions of Fwance, Bury, and the MFM we will have ceded total control of the best area of our electoral battlefield.

We are backing an iranian and AQ funded coalition in toppling a dictator who has Fwench contracts.....

I've seen at least parts of this movie before only Fwance and barack o'bama had a LOT different lines in the cut of the movie I saw.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 24, 2011 07:52 AM (kq1lG)

78

"It's emerging," she says.

So is this massive shite!!!

Posted by: Fat Bastard at March 24, 2011 07:53 AM (v+QvA)

79

Posted by: Like high-compression V-8s at March 24, 2011 11:46 AM (lT0LC)

Thanks much!

I think I'll drown my frustration with that billboard in lemonade, and await more updates in the DOOM thread. ~_~ Freakin' madness.

Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 24, 2011 07:53 AM (WvFvd)

80 sorry, link fixed (I think)

No, any link with "img" or "image" in the url gets those letters automagically replaced by underscores when you post. Just tinyurl everything.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 24, 2011 07:53 AM (oSMOM)

81 74 Billboard (really fixed this time) UGH. Is it Friday yet?  

Is it 2012 yet?

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Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at March 24, 2011 07:53 AM (1tFVW)

83 80 So,you're on a desert island with Andrea Mitchell and Elenore Clift.....   Hope to run into a horny monkey, I guess.

Posted by: Truman North at March 24, 2011 07:54 AM (8ay4x)

84 Andrea Mitchell restores my confidence in my ability to assess if someone is as dumb as a bag of rocks just by looking at her/him. 

Posted by: Y-not at March 24, 2011 07:54 AM (pW2o8)

85 Hahaha, the underscores above should be the letters "i", "m" and "g", which the comment system apparently does not like even when not in urls.

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 24, 2011 07:54 AM (oSMOM)

86 Ready to lead since day one!

Posted by: Owen at March 24, 2011 07:54 AM (BsVCa)

87

The Obama Doctrine is emerging
The Obama Doctrine is emerging
Hi ho the derry-o
The Obama Doctrine is emerging
♪ ♫

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 24, 2011 07:54 AM (1KFpn)

88 I think the proper term is "turtling." 

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at March 24, 2011 07:55 AM (0IPsJ)

89 "It's kinetic."

What in the ever-loving fuck is the infatuation with liberals coming up with new bullshit terms?

My dick is kinetic.

Elizabeth Taylor?  No.  Not kinetic.

Posted by: Dang at March 24, 2011 07:56 AM (TXKVh)

90

 I think the proper term is "turtling." 

Pe-King isn't just a City in China...it's my doctrine!

Posted by: Barack al aqsa Obama at March 24, 2011 07:57 AM (kZ8J9)

91
So,you're on a desert island with Andrea Mitchell and Elenore Clift  furiously fighting to stay on the bottom of the ocean.....

Posted by: The Mega Independent at March 24, 2011 07:57 AM (1KFpn)

92 80 So,you're on a desert island with Andrea Mitchell and Elenore Clift.....

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2011 11:52 AM (ibfOH)


I manage to weave palm fronds into a rope long enough to hang them both.

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at March 24, 2011 07:57 AM (6IReR)

93 Just look at her - she's an Elf for crying out loud and they have never really been known for their coherent analysis.  It's all prancing around the forest and making cookies, but mostly making cookies.

Posted by: Roadking at March 24, 2011 07:58 AM (vcTAC)

94 Ahhh...ignore my comment #78.  It's just pedantic and nit-picky and persnickity.

Posted by: ed at March 24, 2011 07:58 AM (Y2WVW)

95

I don't care what Andrea says, here's my doctrine:

1. Define enemy as any country/entity with a stated goal of doing harm to the U.S or its allies.

2. Define allies as a short list of nations that have historically been with us (ie, England, Australia, Israel, Canada... that's about it).

3. When the U.S. and/or one of its allies (see above) decide it's in our interest to take military action against an enemy, we do it. 

4. The rest of the world (including france) can go suck eggs.

My opinion is, this action against Libya fits the above criteria because England wants us taking this action. 

Posted by: Mr. Fire at March 24, 2011 07:58 AM (TOk1P)

96 With that kind of skill in giving blow jobs to Obama, the chrome  on every trailer ball hitch in Andrea's  sight is in danger.  You know she has to keep exercising to keep those love muscle licking jaws in shape.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at March 24, 2011 07:59 AM (3ESDJ)

97

2) "and the benefits outweigh the costs"

The only situation where you can be certain that the benefits will outweigh the costs is when you take Jeff B.s girlfriend out for a drink when he's out of town on business

(Sorry, Ace...I denconce myself have do a self-imposed temporary ban)

Posted by: beedubya at March 24, 2011 07:59 AM (AnTyA)

98
Hey Rocky! Watch me pull a wabbit out of my ass!

Posted by: Prezident Bullwinkle at March 24, 2011 07:59 AM (yf5H9)

99 i think the terms are interchangeable

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 24, 2011 07:59 AM (Cm66w)

100  88 Andrea Mitchell restores my confidence in my ability to assess if someone is as dumb as a bag of rocks just by looking at her/him. 
Posted by: Y-not

She does have that wide-eyed look about her that betrays a certainty that at least 40% of her brain is constantly repeating the phrase,  "Oh fuck!  Oh fuck!  Oh fuck!"

Posted by: Dang at March 24, 2011 08:00 AM (TXKVh)

101  So,you're on a desert island with Andrea Mitchell and Elenore Clift.....

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2011 11:52 AM (ibfOH)

I would be ramming bamboo shoots into my eye sockets while they proceeded to get it on.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 24, 2011 08:00 AM (yQWNf)

102 i think someone needs a colon cleanse..............

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 24, 2011 08:00 AM (Cm66w)

103 Liberals ROE is simple. US action is justified if (and only if) there is absolutely no US interest at stake. Iraq -No; Kosovo -Yes.

Posted by: Have Blue at March 24, 2011 08:00 AM (mV+es)

104

"People question whether there's a strategy and the president tried to outline it."

 

In other words people realize that Barry has no clue on what to do but we here in the MFM will continue to cover for him even if it means making up stuff for him

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 24, 2011 08:00 AM (1Jaio)

105 OT

This could be something: (only because I do not trust this Administration because TEA partiers are considered 'homegrown terrorists' not Muslims that want to kill us)

In any event, the Obama administration took further chunks out of the Miranda recently when it passed new rules allowing investigators to hold domestic-terror suspects longer than others without giving them a Miranda warning
...
The Justice Department believes it has the authority to tinker with Miranda procedures. Making the change administratively rather than through legislation in Congress, however, presents legal risks.

Posted by: momma at March 24, 2011 08:01 AM (penCf)

106
have they said "the situation is fluid" and "we want to be a flexible as possible to adjust to the shifting paradigms?"

they will

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at March 24, 2011 08:01 AM (1tFVW)

107 Andrea, getting old is unavoidable, but the payback to getting old is that you are supposed to gain some measure of wisdom. Obviously you have rejected all tenants of age, and have chosen to remain a dumb shit.  That makes you as useful as tits on a boar hog. Dumb kids we must tolerate in the hope that someday they might know something. Dumbass old women who cling to their stupidity like it was money, not so much.

Posted by: maddogg at March 24, 2011 08:02 AM (OlN4e)

108
So,you're on a desert island with Andrea Mitchell and Elenore Clift.....

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2011 11:52 AM (ibfOH)

So,you're on a desert island with Andrea Mitchell, Eleanor Clift, and an attractive sheep named Sally..........

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at March 24, 2011 08:02 AM (ZHsNw)

109

The last time the US went to war without foreign partners was, I think, the Punitive Expedition against Pancho Villa.

Grenada?  Panama?




Actually, it's not persnickity, it's a valid question. In both those cases, the OAS was nominally involved, if I remember correctly.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 24, 2011 08:03 AM (yf5H9)

110 So TOTAL was involved in the Sudanese Civil War, Saddam's Oil vouchers, adsorbed ELF/Aquitaine which itself was riddled with scandal, and now this Libya fiasco - could we have a less corrupt partner in this, like a PLA slave labor factory or South Korean industrial group?

O'wait a familiar name pops up with scandal and TOTAL; Mr. Auchi.  Why is does his name ring a bell?

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2011 08:03 AM (WkuV6)

111 She'd have more credibility if she just said, "Here...pull my finger."

Is there NO ONE anywhere near these people that tell them, uh....you really are putz?  Ever? 

Posted by: Tami at March 24, 2011 08:03 AM (VuLos)

112 So,you're on a desert island with Andrea Mitchell and Elenore Clift..... Posted by: steevy

Ever fuck a coconut?

Posted by: That guy who got kick off Survivor without a council vote at March 24, 2011 08:03 AM (TXKVh)

113 82

"It's emerging," she says.

So is this massive shite!!!

Posted by: Fat Bastard at March 24, 2011 11:53 AM

HAHAHA!

I thought the same thing!

Obama Doctrine= Painful Bowel Movement

Posted by: shibumi at March 24, 2011 08:03 AM (OKZrE)

114 Andrea Mitchell?  Shooooooooo..... she can suck a tennis ball through a garden hose.

Posted by: B. J. Clinton at March 24, 2011 08:04 AM (yQWNf)

115 It's emerging. Oh my god it is so emerging.  Emerging...emerging....
Wait...now it's Coming...coming...coming....ack....ack....ack...

Alan...Alan...did you see that? Are you hard yet? Should I have him spank me?

Posted by: Amdrea "Kneepads" Mitchell at March 24, 2011 08:04 AM (Q1lie)

116
maddogg, did you know that President Reagan referred to Kaddafi as the "mad dog" in the Middle East? It's true.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at March 24, 2011 08:04 AM (1tFVW)

117 "When you have a catastrophe you can avert"

I might add that the "catastrophe" in the case of Libya was willfully precipitated in the form of military attacks by the "rebels" of unknown allegiance vis a vis the United States as part of some nebulous "Arab Awakening."  Gadaffi's response may be disproportionate or indiscriminate but it would not have happened if the "rebels" didn't attack him.  I don't recall the United States inducing the "rebels" to take up arms with some kind of tacit agreement to give aid and support.  They wrote the check, and now the Obama position is that it is our responsibility to guarantee that it clears. 

Posted by: Alec Leamas at March 24, 2011 08:04 AM (IVQSY)

118

What in the ever-loving fuck is the infatuation with liberals coming up with new bullshit terms?

In their defense, that is the cool kids term--I first heard it in Iraq.

However, when hearing from the mouths of this administration, it sounds like my kids spouting disjointed quantum physics terms.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 24, 2011 08:04 AM (B+qrE)

119 So Alan Greenspan didn't marry her for her smarts.  Or her looks.  She must have some other talent, if you know what I mean.  Wink.

Yeah.  The ability to get in bed with him and not throw up.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 24, 2011 08:05 AM (8y9MW)

120 Not only are we going to Libya, but we're going to Bahrain, then the UAE, and to Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, then Syria, and we're going to Yemen and Kuwait ....Yeeeeaaaarrrrrggghhhhhh

Posted by: Howard Dean at March 24, 2011 08:05 AM (AnTyA)

121 "The situation is fluid.  It's kinetic.  And it is emerging."

Yeah,  that sound like someone shitting their pants.

Posted by: Dang at March 24, 2011 08:05 AM (TXKVh)

122 Auchi, was the Iraqi businessman that financed Rezko who in turn helped out Obama,  Soothsayer, what with with the Journolist agitprop from one of the original trig truther outfits

Posted by: justin cord at March 24, 2011 08:05 AM (6UTk5)

123 momma: you need to make a tinyURL, Minx won't allow anything with the letters i-m-g in that order.

Posted by: Ian S. at March 24, 2011 08:05 AM (p05LM)

124 Seems the position of Czar of Just Makin' Shit Up hasn't been defunded yet. Chop, chop house GOP.

Posted by: Andy at March 24, 2011 08:06 AM (5Rurq)

125 "It's emerging," she says.

At some point you have to pinch the turd off.  It can't emerge forever.

Posted by: toby928™: Popular Front for the Liberation of Wisconsin at March 24, 2011 08:06 AM (GTbGH)

126 124 Yeah,the military uses it.

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2011 08:07 AM (ibfOH)

127

So,you're on a desert island with Andrea Mitchell, Eleanor Clift, and an attractive sheep named Sally..........

Can Sally cook?

Posted by: beedubya at March 24, 2011 08:07 AM (AnTyA)

128
Let me know when Obama's doctrine is to eat lightning and crap thunder.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at March 24, 2011 08:07 AM (1tFVW)

129

Obama Doctrine= Painful Bowel Movement

Barack Obama is :

The Fissure King

Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2011 08:07 AM (kZ8J9)

130 31 So, The Obama Doctrine consists mostly of having sycophants in the media invent a doctrine for you. Sounds like a fun ride.

Posted by: Like high-compression V-8s at March 24, 2011 11:41 AM (lT0LC)

FIFY

Posted by: MWR at March 24, 2011 08:07 AM (4df7R)

131
stick and move, stick and move

the new Obama Docrtine

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at March 24, 2011 08:08 AM (1tFVW)

132
Obama's gonna bob & weave

Stick 'n move.

Float like a butterfly
And sting like a bee

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at March 24, 2011 08:08 AM (1tFVW)

133 Diggitty!

Posted by: quagmire at March 24, 2011 08:09 AM (GTbGH)

134 "It's emerging," she says.

At some point you have to pinch the turd off.  It can't emerge forever.

Posted by: toby928™: Popular Front for the Liberation of Wisconsin at March 24, 2011 12:06 PM (GTbGH)

Well, when you've got a honk hole that's been, shall we say, stretched and wrecked and abused repeatedly..... and I mean repeatedly..... it gets harder and harder to 'pinch' as you say.

Posted by: Andrea Bitchell at March 24, 2011 08:09 AM (yQWNf)

135

Can Sally cook?

Posted by: beedubya at March 24, 2011 12:07 PM (AnTyA)

Sally cooks a mean mutton stew, but is so sorry because she's currently flowing and unavailable.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at March 24, 2011 08:09 AM (ZHsNw)

136

'Dulcolax'  'The Obama Doctrine' :

"It Doesn't Make You Go, It Just Makes Going Easier"

Posted by: garrett at March 24, 2011 08:09 AM (kZ8J9)

137 139 You fucked up your catchword.It's "giggity".

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2011 08:10 AM (ibfOH)

138
Next week's doctrine:

There is no tomorrow!

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at March 24, 2011 08:10 AM (1tFVW)

139 Rush is having fun with this.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 24, 2011 08:12 AM (UOM48)

140 I'm gonna need stronger kneepads.  (I wonder if I can expense those?)

Back to you, Chris

Posted by: Andrea Mitchell, spraying musky smelling dust all over the MSNBC studios at March 24, 2011 08:12 AM (RkrQu)

141 132 124 Yeah,the military uses it.

Posted by: steevy at March 24, 2011 12:07 PM (ibfOH)


Yeah, but I think the point is that the Left doesn't.  Until now.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at March 24, 2011 08:13 AM (IVQSY)

142
Next phase in Obama's world of fictional references for policy...

Obama's gonna make Kaddafi an offer he can't refuse.

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at March 24, 2011 08:13 AM (1tFVW)

143 When your base is mostly composed of sycophants, true marxist believers, tapeworms, and the rest are truly retarded, you can get away with using made up catch phrases.

Toonces could say Whisky flamingo tree biscuit, and those assholes would lap it up and hail it as the One True Wisdom.

Thanks again FiftyTwo Percenters, you retarded fucking fucks.

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at March 24, 2011 08:13 AM (6IReR)

144 Ok! I think I understand the Obama doctrine!  Obama flings poo against the wall.  Then he finger paints with it.  IF he likes what he sees on the wall he unilaterally attacks Libya.  If not, he just goes back to watching Sports Center. Thanks Andrea! You are super for explaining our super-duper-smart-President to us!

Posted by: Marie at March 24, 2011 08:13 AM (GuTKr)

145 125 So Alan Greenspan didn't marry her for her smarts.  Or her looks.  She must have some other talent, if you know what I mean.  Wink.

Yeah.  The ability to get in bed with him and not throw up.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther)

Some ladies,  I am told,  are sexually aroused by slow-talking men who look like turtles wearing goggles.

Posted by: Dang at March 24, 2011 08:14 AM (TXKVh)

146 it's emerging, a plan !...to forage , er No it's still cold out, my brain is a little sluggish yet.,i'll check back with y'all later. I still have some sleeping to catch up on after that last vacay.

Posted by: ground hog at March 24, 2011 08:15 AM (h+qn8)

147 87 80 So,you're on a desert island with Andrea Mitchell and Elenore Clift..... I'd hump a shark first. At least I wouldn't die disgusted.

Posted by: Folk songs for our time at March 24, 2011 08:17 AM (RD7QR)

148

Posted by: Soothsayer, Republican Whip at March 24, 2011 12:04 PM (1tFVW)

Infidel bastard! You've outed me! Now come and get me infidel! I will fight until the wrinkles on my face prevent me from seeing you, or until you vote that chicken turd out of office.

Posted by: maddogg at March 24, 2011 08:17 AM (OlN4e)

149 Thanks again FiftyTwo Percenters, you retarded fucking fucks.

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at March 24, 2011 12:13 PM (6IReR)

Althouse makes me laugh.

Posted by: FUBAR at March 24, 2011 08:18 AM (McG46)

150 Obama doctrine.

1. If it makes me look really really really bad if I do nothing,

2. AND the French are going to take action

3. AND The UN has issued a resolution.

4. AND At least one credible source from the Muslim world endorses action.

5. AND someone else agrees to actually lead and take responsibility for failure.

6. AND That same person agrees to give me credit for success.

7. AND Congress approves. Not Required

A. Take Military Action!

ELSE

B. Issue hedging tepidly worded statement that makes no commitment. 

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 24, 2011 08:18 AM (0q2P7)

151 dammit

Posted by: quagmire at March 24, 2011 08:18 AM (GTbGH)

152 So using the systematic,  decision-shaping process that is The Obama Doctrine,  I'll be fucking a hole in the ground for the rest of the day.

Posted by: The Honey Badger at March 24, 2011 08:19 AM (TXKVh)

153 Is there a way to send our imponderables directly to Andrea to have her enlighten us?

Like, if the commander in chief has a bowl movement, is that "kinetic military action," and does he need support from the French?

I am intrigued by the "benefits outweigh the costs" concept, does it apply to all situations? Is it something only the president should consider? How about in business, can we use the same approach to solve out business problems?

Posted by: nine coconuts at March 24, 2011 08:20 AM (DHNp4)

154

1) "When you have a catastrophe you can avert"

2) "and the benefits outweigh the costs"

3) "and you have an international or multilateral support"

4) "Go for it."

5)  "Profit?"

Posted by: beedubya at March 24, 2011 08:21 AM (AnTyA)

155 157 MtM,

nailed it

Posted by: sven10077 at March 24, 2011 08:21 AM (kq1lG)

156 Hey, golf is kinetic

Posted by: Jean at March 24, 2011 08:22 AM (WkuV6)

157 Actually, thinking about it I understand that usually barry and the left do not care if the benefits outweigh the costs. Like for AGW, or green energy, or high speed rail, or stimulus.

So this is like an exception to standard practice.

Posted by: nine coconuts at March 24, 2011 08:23 AM (DHNp4)

158 Actually, thinking about it I understand that usually barry and the left do not care if the benefits outweigh the costs. Like for AGW, or green energy, or high speed rail, or stimulus.

Posted by: nine coconuts at March 24, 2011 12:23 PM (DHNp4) 


Or health care or SS or hate crimes or WIC or affirmative action or amnesty or student loans or bailouts or gun control or...

They never care about cost-benefit.  They only care about intent.

Posted by: FUBAR at March 24, 2011 08:29 AM (McG46)

159 Doctrine emerging? In the southeast we call that "brown capping."

Posted by: Tommy Gunnarson at March 24, 2011 08:34 AM (ybA9f)

160

Well, it isn't a doctine doctrine... those are for cowboys.

Posted by: sherlock at March 24, 2011 08:38 AM (7UMow)

161 I"It's emerging?"

It seems I heard that line quite a bit from the boys when I was a teenager.

Posted by: mpfs, Go Aztecs! at March 24, 2011 08:43 AM (iYbLN)

162 So,you're on a desert island with Andrea Mitchell, Eleanor Clift, and an attractive sheep named Sally..........

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at March 24, 2011 12:02 PM (ZHsNw)


So, who invited the ugly bitches?

Posted by: Sally the Sheep at March 24, 2011 08:50 AM (/izg2)

163 "It's emerging."

Wife asked me what was taking me so long in the bathroom this morning.  That was my exact reply.

Posted by: tangonine at March 24, 2011 08:51 AM (x3YFz)

164 Why is Andrea Mitchell articulating the Obama Doctrine?  Doesn't the Obama Administration have people who are supposed to provide information to the world?  Like a Press Office?

Posted by: Mikey NTH at March 24, 2011 09:06 AM (O9Cc8)

165

The Obama Doctrine

It's kinetic.

 

 

Big whoop.  So is the Electric Slide.

Posted by: runningrn at March 24, 2011 09:09 AM (ihSHD)

166

Obama Doctrine= Painful Bowel Movement

Barack Obama is :

The Fissure King

 

Ha! Ha!  That made me LOL! 

Posted by: runningrn at March 24, 2011 09:15 AM (ihSHD)

167 Some ladies,  I am told,  are sexually aroused by slow-talking men who look like turtles wearing goggles.

Posted by: Dang at March 24, 2011 12:14 PM (TXKVh)

Yes, but we are talking about Andrea Mitchell here.

Posted by: Book Geek at March 24, 2011 09:24 AM (1+OO5)

168

These are my doctrines.

 

If you don't like them, I have others.

Posted by: Groucho Obama at March 24, 2011 09:43 AM (usS2T)

169 What?! She doesn't know what Obama Doctrine is? How could she remain in her job and not know what it is, and its not his world view

Posted by: oic at March 24, 2011 09:46 AM (B2/u4)

170

Back when New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevey was on the verge of being indicted for various crimes I predicted that his way out of the mess would be to stop denying all of the swirling rumors over his sexual orientation, because the resulting cultural panic would make people completely forget about the bribery and corruption. 

He did my prediction one better by announcing at a preference that "His truth was that he was a Gay American".  Brilliant!  The man never served a day in jail.

I gotta suspect that people are thinking along similar lines in the Obama White House right now.  Things are just going to keep on getting worse, because he has dug a hole from which there is no digging out.  Libya is the cherry on top of the sh!t sundae of his own creation.  So, what is a President to do?

Simple.  Stop denying the birther rumors.  Admit that you are not a native-born citizen.  The resulting Constitutional crisis would make everybody completely forget about everything else.  Obama can be hounded out of office with his head held high and the idiots on the Left can talk for another fifty years about how great a President he might have been...

My prediction is that somewhere in the basement of the White House, people are trying to concoct an innocent explaination of how Obama could run for President withour realizing that he was ineligible.  I'm guessing that Momma is about to go under the bus.  Of course, her deception would have come out of her earnest desire for her child to have a better life as an American citizen, so maybe she doesn't have to go under the bus at all. 

Posted by: Haiku Guy at March 24, 2011 10:00 AM (J6F73)

171 Yeah, it's "emerging". Sort of like this.

Posted by: Socratease at March 24, 2011 10:01 AM (vaIln)

172 Palin already defined Obama's doctrine early last year: In foreign policy, weÂ’ve got the makings of the Obama Doctrine: coddling our enemies while alienating allies. The administration eased sanctions on Cuba and sided with Chavez against Honduran democracy. They wonÂ’t bring up human rights with China because, quote, 'we know what they are going to say.' They offer tepid sanctions on North Korea and 'gold stars and cookies' for the Sudanese President. They send letters to Iranian mullahs but can barely muster a word of support for the Green Movement seeking freedom and womenÂ’s rights in Iran! And President Obama, with all that vast nuclear expertise he acquired as a community organizer, a part-time senator, and a candidate for president, has accomplished nothing to date with Iran or North Korea. Meanwhile, this administration alienates our friends. They treated Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai poorly and acted surprised when he reacted in kind. And they escalated a minor zoning decision into a major breach with Israel, our closest ally in the Middle East. Folks, someone needs to remind the President: Jerusalem is not a settlement. Israel is our friend. And the critical nuclear concerns of our time are North Korea, who has nuclear weapons, and Iran, who wants them. So, 'yes we can' kowtow to our enemies and publicly criticize our allies. Yes, we can. But someone ought to tell the President and the Left that just because we can doesnÂ’t mean we should.

Posted by: oic at March 24, 2011 10:06 AM (B2/u4)

173

The last time the US went to war without foreign partners was, I think, the Punitive Expedition against Pancho Villa.

Grenada.

Posted by: RickZ at March 24, 2011 10:15 AM (vGy3W)

174 The Obama Doctrine: Change and Hope

Posted by: pitythefool at March 24, 2011 10:18 AM (BjQSh)

175 Planning is for the ordinary people.  I am the State.

Posted by: Obama the Lightworker at March 24, 2011 10:43 AM (blNMI)

176 When you see Andrea Mitchell, just imagine seeing the back of her head in your lap through a blue haze.

See?  You're Alan Greenspan.  Things are all better now, right?

Posted by: JEM at March 24, 2011 11:06 AM (o+SC1)

177 @183 - I believe the expression you're looking for is 'L'etat, c'est moi'.


Posted by: JEM at March 24, 2011 11:07 AM (o+SC1)

178 She just wants to be cool. Is that so wrong?

Posted by: railwriter at March 24, 2011 01:07 PM (daRzV)

179 Little Chrisy wet pants asks the booming intellectual Andrea the doctrine question and at about 14 sec sin he is starting to wet herself with anticipation of showing her brilliance. When these progs sit around and talk the egos and narcissism in the room must as pungent as beer and brat farts during oktoberfest in Germany. I wounder do they touch each other and coo at each others brilliance?

Posted by: Buffalobob at March 24, 2011 01:36 PM (GwH6h)

180 The 4 steps are too long. It's simply, it it makes you feel good, do it.

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181

Holy shit, those criteria are so loose it makes Charlie Sheen horny.

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