1 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

2 don't enforce any law at any time ask john conyers. hoo ray for banana republic.

3 3rd!!!!

4 ricky perry: stuttering clusterf*ck that is all.

5 Whether you agree or disagree, if immigration orthodoxy is going to be the new differentiator between RINOs and True Conservatives, better that we get it all out in the open.

I cannot believe that we are actually discussing whether or not a Presidential candidate should believe that the nation's immigration laws should be enforced.

Fuck this, I'm going to Narnia. 

6 BERLUSCONI, THE GAME IS OVER..http://malgradotuttoblog.blogspot.com/

7 Face it, Barry sucks.

8

so what!

so I just saw my coworker having anal sex with a 10 year old boy in the gym showeres....

 

I did all the right things, sulked away, called my daddy and reported it the next day..

 

I'm good right??  I don't got to loose my career over it

9 Eleven sounds. Really? Oh Junior, get off that lawn.

Ten-digit dialing is a 90's abomination. Back in the day, almost all calls were seven digits. I can remember six.

You had to stand in one place to talk on the phone. If a call was "dropped" you called The Bell System to report it, and they notified Civil Defense. Some bars had five phones, but no phones had five bars.

10 Having abused y'all horribly this week to make the top ten I will now lurk in shame.

11 hi all
LOL luv the cat video video

12 Well... the Patriots don't look as shitty as they have looked lately.

13 so, according to the paper:

Noted Scientist Claims:
All Left-Handed People Come from Outer Space!


hmm, isn't Obama left-handed?  it would explain a lot

14
Well... the Patriots don't look as shitty as they have looked lately.

The night is young.

15 ..and it is the Jets

16 1 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at November 13, 2011 09:02 PM (7WJOC)

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fuck the corporate media.

17 chemjeff, in answer to your earlier work-avoidance question  - can you break it into 10-15 minute segments, and give you a 1-2 minute reward after each segment ?  (Use a timer!)

18 So apparently Tebow sucks so hard that he's won 3 of the 4 games he's started.  brb rubbing some people's noses in that

19 Why yes he does. Hmm so why can't we have have official US government cheerleaders?


It is Called NPR and well the whole media they just don't wear cheerleader uniforms.

20 I'm in a Bram Stoker kind of mood.  Been reading the original now watching Coppola's version.  I do like Gary Oldman.

21

Why yes he does. Hmm so why can't we have have official US government cheerleaders?

Because they'd be union and it'd be based on seniority.  So it would be like the unionized whorehouse joke.

22 3. Thank you for your consideration. Hope to hear from you shorty!

LMFAO!

Evening, all!  All wrung out from a great day of football. 

23 All the joking about hippie punching aside, I have a cousin whose husband works for the Portland PD, and I'm hoping that the crowd disperses peacefully.

24 I do like Gary Oldman.

Stupid Gary Oldman making stupid Commissioner Gordon all stupid hot. 

25 Helen Thomas is a cheerleader now?  WOW, need bleach for eyes.

26

so what!
so I just saw my coworker having anal sex with a 10 year old boy in the gym showeres....
I did all the right things, sulked away, called my daddy and reported it the next day..
I'm good right??  I don't got to loose my career over it

Posted by: Mike McQueary

If you witness a sexual assault DO NOT TELL THE POLICE!! It's bad PR.

27 24

I know.  Who would think I would have the hots for Commissioner Gordon??!!

28 26. If you witness sexual assualt involving a superior BE SURE TO KEEP IT QUIET or you won't have any valuable extortion material to further your career!

29 13 so, according to the paper:

Noted Scientist Claims:
All Left-Handed People Come from Outer Space!


hmm, isn't Obama left-handed?  it would explain a lot

Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2011 09:14 PM (s7mIC)

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so was Bush I, Clinton, Ford, Truman, Hoover, McCain, Perot and Reagan was an ambi -- so it explains much more than I care to think about

30 24 and 27 - Oldman ladies - do remember Rick Perry named "Immortal Beloved" as his favorite film. I'm still amazed. That was all he had to do. Immortal Beloved! Perry is a secret Goth.

31 Helluva great catch by Burris. 

32
Plaxico Burress is pretty athletic for a guy with one nut.

33 Remember when I said they didn't look as shitty as usual?  I wasn't counting on Brady looking like Chris Painter.

34 19 Why yes he does. Hmm so why can't we have have official US government cheerleaders?


It is Called NPR and well the whole media they just don't wear cheerleader uniforms.

Posted by: Tjexcite at November 13, 2011 09:18 PM (hnZq1)

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maybe not, but I bet most of them are wearing something frilly underneath while they are at work.  Oh, and I suspect some of the women do, too.

35 the Insult Comic clip is pretty good
I love how he was able to lead the OWSers with idiot chants

36 Posted by: alexthechick at November 13, 2011 09:20 PM (Gk3SS)

Heh. And he is a conservative republican.

37 Have I mentioned also?  the green peacock goes up me sideways

38

You know what would be good?  If they blocked for Sanchez

39 Also: Police Now Clearing #Occupy Portland Now I can't guarantee there'll be any hippie punching, but the odds do seem better than usual. And popcorn is never really wasted. You can watch it live here. I think there will be hippie punching, but not for hours yet. The hippies are holed up in Pioneer Square in downtown Portland (which is the designated protest locale in downtown Portland). They are having one of their interminable meetings to figure out what to do, which will take hours, of course. It seems obvious that the hippies will try to take another park, and it also seems obvious that the cops will try to stop them. Portland brought in hundreds of cops from surrounding areas as reinforcements - I wonder if they have been sent home. It's a win-win - the hippies get to be martyrs, and do you know what cops get paid for working an overtime Sunday night graveyard shift...

40 I'm perhaps more concerned about the monsters on the west coast. Were those the precursors to today's useless zombie ows'ers?

41 Phone sound kids haven't heard that I HAVE heard: "Operator, what number please?"  Man I'm old!  For calls within our first dial system, you could dial only the last four digits.  Now I gotta dial 10 freakin' numbers to call a coworker in the next office!  Progress!

42 I know. Who would think I would have the hots for Commissioner Gordon??!!

I know! He even makes that mustache work which is just not right.

Also, I consider this proof that God loves me and wants me to be happy.

43
Is Sanchez still dating high school girls?

44 36

Swooooon.

You morons can have your big boobed cheerleaders. I'll take Gary Oldman thank you.

45 Why yes he does. Hmm so why can't we have have official US government cheerleaders? Because Barry's cheerleaders would be picked by Michelle...

46 I can totally understand those who aren't confident with Perry.

But I can't understand those who reject him knowing that the alternative is going to be worse.  It makes no sense to me.

The reason for the venom from Romney's fans to Perry is that he really can seem like the real threat to Romney.  And if the GOP's answer to a battle of Romneycare vs 12 years of Balanced Budgets is Romneycare, I feel like the GOP has left me and my values.  If the party is about pizazz instead of hard proven results, I am not in the tent anymore.

Hopefully we opt for Newt or Perry and I don't have to worry too much about this, but if the GOP is represented by Romney in 2012 of all years, a time of importance over major spending reforms, it's one of those rare historic times when a political party should come to an end so that a more useful one can emerge.

Anyway, shame on Perry for making this so damn difficult.  I'm going to vote for him, but he should have worked out a way to sell his excellent record, or he shouldn't have run.  It's stupid, but it's also how America does politics.

47 44
You morons can have your big boobed cheerleaders.

Posted by: mpfs at November 13, 2011 09:28 PM (bv3B0)

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Hey, now you're talkin'

48

Posted by: Steck at November 13, 2011 09:17 PM (RL7U1)

Steck - yeah it's not as bad as I'm making it out to be, I'm just whining as usual.  But thanks.

49

I know! He even makes that mustache work which is just not right.

Also, I consider this proof that God loves me and wants me to be happy.

Posted by: alexthechick at November 13, 2011 09:28 PM (Gk3SS)

If you can keep her away from movie roles you can have her.

50 Dustin - in my mind it's not about pizzazz vs. results, it is about who is best able to beat Obama.  If Perry can best do it, then I'm pro-Perry.  If Romney can best do it, then I'm pro-Romney.

51 46 It's stupid, but it's also how America does politics.

Posted by: Dustin at November 13, 2011 09:30 PM (rQ/Ue)

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We're trying to corner the stupid market, but unfortunately, the rest of the world is working so hard on keeping all of theirs that is tough to get a leg up.

52
I believe there is in fact a cheerleader for our beloved mocha jesus.


_{relax....it's just a very clean SFW photo.}

53 42
alexthechick.

OMFG

54 Oh dear Lord - Wodeshed that's hilarious!

55 OMG, Gotta have those Manolo pumps in every color!!~!!!

56 If atc is watching the Walking Dead someone check on her, she's probably overheated.  They've got the redneck acting badass.

57 Ouch. I'm number 2 on the list and that doesn't even count my commenting from work.

I need to get a life.

58 Here's another sound kids won't hear.  Clocking in at work...

59 I think Sanchez has moved on to dating Tom Brady.

60 The only litmus test is intelligence and some basic appeal outside the South. Of which Perry has none. He's down to 4 percent repeat 4 percent in the latest poll. On the other hand we should have an immigration litmus test because more immigrants equals more democrats. Not that hard to figure out, Hispanics always vote 2 to 1 democrat. We can't all be like Texas where 70 percent of whites vote Republican no matter what.

61
Oh dear Lord - Wodeshed that's hilarious!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 13, 2011 09:37 PM (SB0V2)

Feel free to distribute.  I just made it yesterday.

62 Here is a list of my qualifications for you to overlook.
 
Not bad if you follow that up later with some point about your sense of humor. Resumes are pretty dry reading.

63 The problem with Perry is he doesn't respect the rule of law and property rights. His lack of enforcement regarding illegal immigrants is just another symptom of this fatal flaw.  He uses government power against the society he governs. That is why he is the worst GOP candidate possible for conservatives.

64 Phone sound kids haven't heard that I HAVE heard: "Operator, what number please?"  Man I'm old!  For calls within our first dial system, you could dial only the last four digits.  Now I gotta dial 10 freakin' numbers to call a coworker in the next office!  Progress!

My grandparents' phone number, when dialed locally, was just 5557 for years. Then, it was 25557 for a while thereafter before the county grew too big and added exchanges.

65 42
alexthechick.

OMFG

I KNOW RIGHT! 

Crap crap I am not watching Walking Dead, did Norman Reedus crossbow everyone?  Because omfg I want that like a wanty thing that wants stuff. 

66 18. That's cool Tebow will be visit Da Bears in a couple of weeks Peppers will fuck him like a 10yo walking through the penn state shower room (too early?)

67 Good evening.

68 Posted by: alexthechick at November 13, 2011 09:41 PM (Gk3SS)

Fell off his horse, impaled by a crossbow bolt in his side and is rescuing himself while seriously injured.

69
I think Sanchez has moved on to dating Tom Brady.

I see.  I was not aware that Sanchez had experience in lingerie modeling for Victoria's Secret.

70 67 Good evening.

Posted by: Robert at November 13, 2011 09:42 PM (F79HU)

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Yo.

71 Feel free to distribute. I just made it yesterday. You're sweet but I literally have not one friend, coworker or relation I could possibly forward that too. I mean unless I'd like to be completely blackballed which no I wouldn't

72 way to go Brady

73 Hi Robert

74 Jesus I just spelt "to" as "too." I need to start my Sunday drinking

75 Ahh, OK, I know what happened.  It's a 'freaky Sunday' type thing and Romo and Brady switched bodies! 

76 A few sounds the youngsters of today will never utter:

Oh my aching back.

My feet are killing me from standing all day.

OMG! The government is taking 38% taxes out of my paycheck!

No I will not give you a bj. I am saving myself for marriage.

77 Sonofabitch!

78

Top ten reasons Perry is no longer my guy:

1) He's for rewarding the children of illegal immigrants and calling me heartless for not believing the way he does on it.

2) His head is on a spring of some sort.

3) He began the debates by being an argumentative rude little prick with Romney, who I like even less.

4) He has been such a collosal failure at debating I think the SCOAMF would beat him.

5) He has a brain fart and goes on Letterman and makes an even bigger joke of himself.

6) His performance in New Hampshire made himlook like he had a brain aneurysm.

7, 8 & 9) Uh. Uh. Uh.

I was really hoping the guy would have been better at this national politics thing because he is still a hell of a lot better than Romney.

79 I could use a Gary Oldman/Willem Dafoe sammich with a side order of Lara Croft right now.

80 How bout them Iggles? hee hee hee hee hee Can't help but love their suckitude

81 (too early?)

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 13, 2011 09:42 PM (mlqs1)

NOT APPROPRIATE. And if it is not appropriate for the ONT, it isn't good anywhere, any time.

This is not something upon which to joke.

Sorry. Disgusting.

82 Peppers will fuck him like a 10yo walking through the penn state shower room (too early?)

yep.

83 Anyone can die at any moment...

84 Noted Scientist Claims:
All Left-Handed People Come from Outer Space!


hmm, isn't Obama left-handed?  it would explain a lot

Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2011 09:14 PM (s7mIC)

I've always said that Obamao was born on Mars.

85 76 A few sounds the youngsters of today will never utter:

Oh my aching back.

My feet are killing me from standing all day.

OMG! The government is taking 38% taxes out of my paycheck!

No I will not give you a bj. I am saving myself for marriage.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at November 13, 2011 09:44 PM (piMMO)

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You were depressing me until you got to that last one.

86 Peppers will fuck him like a 10yo walking through the penn state shower room (too early?)

Posted by: Navycopjoe at November 13, 2011 09:42 PM

 

 

nope, don't think so.

 

I plan on telling on you tomorrow though, of course I'll still work side by side with you for the next 9 years

87

Why Dems can't quit Occupy Wall Street.

Yep.

88

Yo.

Posted by: jc at November 13, 2011 09:43 PM (ufJKx)

Hi Robert

Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2011 09:43 PM (s7mIC)

Yo yo, my wiggas, how mah homies doin' t'night?

89 Hell, people still tell me it's too soon for my favorite Princess Di joke.

What's the difference between a Mercedes and a Porsche?

Lady Di would not be caught dead in a Porsche.

90 Ugggh I denounce myself

91 totally off topic but that shitbag Sandusky is still receiving monthly pension payments from Penn State..Bet now that news is out that comes to a screeching halt.

92 The Occupy "movement" is a dress rehearsal. They'll be back next summer in greater force. They'll be better-funded (thank you, uncle George!), better-organized, and the cops will be TOLD to stay the hell out of their encampments.

Presto. President Obama has a unit of Brownshirts in every major city, ready at the drop of a dime to disrupt Republican events, intimidate voters, find absentee ballots, and whatever else he asks of them.

I've never owned a weapon before, but this winter I'm going to buy a firearm. I am becoming seriously nervous about what the liberals are going to unleash. If it all turns out to be nothing, well, then I've got a firearm to play with.

(No, I don't need recommendations.)

93 Russian President Medvedev Has His Own Cheerleading Squad?

Its good to be the king, err assistant dictator.

94 The Occupy "movement" is a dress rehearsal. They'll be back next summer in greater force. They'll be better-funded (thank you, uncle George!), better-organized, and the cops will be TOLD to stay the hell out of their encampments.

They are like cockroaches.

95
Fell off his horse, impaled by a crossbow bolt in his side and is rescuing himself while seriously injured.

Of course he is because he's the only one with a freaking clue.  Unless he's dead now because of course he's going to die as he's my favorite. 

True fact, I have a friend whose favorite character in anything, book, movie, tv show, whatever, will inevitably die some horrific way.  It's hilarious. 

96 The Portland OWSers are going to move to a nice park next to a country club tonight.

97 80 How bout them Iggles? hee hee hee hee hee Can't help but love their suckitude. Andy Reid will probably be gone next year. Good riddance.

98 LOL! Old Man Herschel states the same shit we've been saying!

99

True fact, I have a friend whose favorite character in anything, book, movie, tv show, whatever, will inevitably die some horrific way. It's hilarious.

Posted by: alexthechick at November 13, 2011 09:49 PM (Gk3SS)

So what you're saying is they loved Walsh in Firefly/Serenity

100 I truly expected the occupooers to camp out until the night temps started going down into freezing, and then regroup at the start of the summer of 2012 after using the time to get money and support. 

101 And here he gives some reasons why illegal immigration is different from abortion as an issue and why it would be a mistake to make it the new deal-breaker for GOP

Well, since abortion is the the government sanctioned, and often funded, taking of innocent human life, it is the whole purpose of government to prevent. Just as the original Republican party formed because it was an outrage to our Constitution that one person could own another, the current should continue the fight against abortion.

That being said, the fight over immigration is important, though very tactical.

Eliminate the welfare state, in toto, and it becomes much less of an issue of a large number of low/no skill immigrants come in. It is still something of an issue due to the downward pressure on native born Americans with low or no skills, and the risk of going the way of classical Greece (manual work? That's for barbarians and slaves!) but not the immediate concern of another 20 million Democrat voters joining the rest at the teets of Uncle Sugar.

102 Hi Shrimps

103

Can't help but love their suckitude.

Philthy fans can't lose enough games for me.

104 98 80 How bout them Iggles?

hee hee hee hee hee

Can't help but love their suckitude.

Andy Reid will probably be gone next year. Good riddance.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 13, 2011 09:50 PM (rGszl)

But Vick won't be.  He's there at least 2 more seasons.

105 I could use a Gary Oldman/Willem Dafoe sammich with a side order of Lara Croft right now.

You and me both.  I might have to pop in The Fifth Element as a nice Oldman/Willis/Milla substitute.

106 89  Posted by: Robert at November 13, 2011 09:47 PM (F79HU)
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Homey don't play dat.

I gotta go out shoveling again.

107 I thought the Republican litmus test was deep throating Bratwurst. Except for the Black guy who can't keep his hands off da bitchez.

108 Posted by: buzzion at November 13, 2011 09:51 PM (GULKT)

Wash dying was the suckitude. Fucking Joss Whedon.

109 g'evening, 'rons

110 Fuck this, I'm going to Narnia. 

Posted by: alexthechick at November 13, 2011 09:06 PM (Gk3SS)

You might not like how it works out.

Hint, they get the universal Ummah.

111

so I just saw my coworker having anal sex with a 10 year old boy in the gym showeres....

 COME ON DOWN!

112

what up morons?  hope you all had a good weekend.

113 okay I am now going to put the computer away and grade some exams.
good night all

114 It is Called NPR and well the whole media they just don't wear cheerleader uniforms.

Posted by: Tjexcite at November 13, 2011 09:18 PM (hnZq1)

We've had regulation kneepads since the 90s though...

115 I've never owned a weapon before, but this winter I'm going to buy a firearm. I am becoming seriously nervous about what the liberals are going to unleash. If it all turns out to be nothing, well, then I've got a firearm to play with.

(No, I don't need recommendations.)

Posted by: Trimegistus at November 13, 2011 09:47 PM (whWHb)

 

buy it now, practice from now to next summer.

 

If you are that concerned start stockpiling ammo now also. 

 

a gun is no good without ammo

116

So can anyone tell me if that film projector clip from the 11 sounds your kids have never heard was from Storyland in Glen, NH?!!! 

My kids want to know why I wont' take them to Disney and I tell them it's because we go to StoryLand every summer.

awesome.

117 The Portland OWSers are going to move to a nice park next to a country club tonight. Because it is cold and damp, they are also discussing taking over a nearby high school, which is, of course, in session. It's pretty funny - I guess they think that buildings are heated by the Heating Fairy, and that the heat can't be cut off.

118 okay I am now going to put the computer away and grade some exams.
good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2011 09:56 PM (s7mIC)

Yes, "put the computer away" and then go "grade some exams" for a "good night".

*Hint* *Hint* *Wink*

You go get ya some, Jefe.

119 I believe my next band will be called " Disgusting Photo on Page 6"

120
a gun is no good without ammo

Oh, come on, man!  Everybody knows that you throw it at the bad guy when you run out of ammo.

121 Peppers will fuck him like a 10yo walking through the penn state shower room (too early?)



You don't say

122
a gun is no good without ammo

With the jawbone of an ass I will slay you.

123 114 okay I am now going to put the computer away and grade some exams.
good night all

Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2011 09:56 PM (s7mIC)

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Did you ever give your students 79.904, 83.798, 85.4678 or 92.90638 on their exams?

124 Love the guy Colme Meaney is playing on Hell on Wheels.  Its supposed to be the actual guy, and he was supposedly a completely self aware asshole.

125 It's pretty obvious illegal immigration isn't the new litmus test.

126 Except for the Black guy who can't keep his hands off da bitchez.

Posted by: Listen at November 13, 2011 09:53 PM (G6kli)

First black president represent'n. Where the chubby interns at?

127 With the jawbone of an ass I will slay you.

Posted by: King David, son of Saul at November 13, 2011 10:00 PM (LEcV+)

NOT FUNNY

128 Wow. The Walking Dead just jumped the shark in a shameless unapolgetic way. See ya, AMC.

129

NOT FUNNY

Posted by: Roger Ebert at November 13, 2011 10:04 PM (3aXbg)

Early threadwinner contender!

130 I was against deficit spending during Bush's term of office, but now I love it and want Obama to spend more to get us out of Bush's recession. I hated Reagan, but I now compare Obama to him favorably. I considered dissent patriotic, until I voted Obama into office and now dissent is racist and un-American. I am for progress, but yet don't want to drill for oil, build new power plants, or develop any land. I am against capitalism, but yet I will gladly suck start a leafblower for the newest Iphone. I was against war, but now that Obama is President war is cool and I will celebrate it.

131 131 Wow. The Walking Dead just jumped the shark in a shameless unapolgetic way. See ya, AMC.

Posted by: Hey.Wheres.Barry at November 13, 2011 10:04 PM (hyP1j)

If you're talking about what's in the barn, blame the comic book.

132 If you're talking about what's in the barn, blame the comic book.

Wait, they actually stuck with some comics canon?  Huh. 

133 G'evening y'all.  Cheers!

134 Wow. The Walking Dead just jumped the shark in a shameless unapolgetic way. See ya, AMC.

Posted by: Hey.Wheres.Barry

You mean the shitty writing wasn't the jumping the shark?

135 135 If you're talking about what's in the barn, blame the comic book.

Wait, they actually stuck with some comics canon? Huh.

Posted by: alexthechick at November 13, 2011 10:08 PM (Gk3SS)

Apparently.  I just looked at the wiki page for the comic book.  And I probably know what the CDC guy whispered to Rick as well.

136 137 Are you guys watching that new show called 'American Muslim"... Fox News is showing it right now. It takes place in Hawaii.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp batting her eyelashes at Rick Perry

Let me guess: it's the ONE reality show where everyone isn't batshit crazy?

 

137 I could use a Gary Oldman/Willem Dafoe sammich with a side order of Lara Croft right now. Ok. But Gerard Butler is allllll MINE!

138 137 Are you guys watching that new show called 'American Muslim"... Fox News is showing it right now. It takes place in Hawaii.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp batting her eyelashes at Rick Perry at November 13, 2011 10:10 PM (qjUnn)

So its about Obama?

139
Are you guys watching that new show called 'American Muslim"



I was planning to wait for the flaming underpants episode.

140

"I was the Speaker the credit card industry feared most--tonight's CBS smear not based on facts"

Just ask them

141 Ah yes, I get it now. I don't have control of my own TV.

142

...or maybe the Waterboarding Challenge.

143 The redneck "ghost" shaming his brother for joining with  "Democrats."  As if the Klan were anything but. History continues to be rewritten.

144 Ok what did the CDC guy whisper in Ricks ear?

145 HEY REF!!!!

146 151
I was planning to wait for the flaming underpants episode.

Posted by: Wodeshed at November 13, 2011 10:14 PM (LEcV+)

That episode is after the stoning episode.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp batting her eyelashes at Rick Perry at November 13, 2011 10:16 PM (qjUnn)

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the stoning episode apparently went on a few years too long.  he still can't do any math.

147 Evening, Rons and Ronettes.

Just got back in from walking 5 miles or so. Also test-rode the new bicycle after figuring out what's wrong with the brakes.

I also joined the facebook group but I don't know who everyone is. (Except Dave in Texas. I think I've figured out which one is him. But I may be wrong).

148 Ok, immigration. Romney- supported the McCain amnesty Cain- supported a path to citizenship Gingrinch- supported a path to citizenship Perry - sent border enforcement agents to the border/ allows illegal aliens already here to attend the state universities by paying full tuition/ actively opposes amnesty and oath to citizenship (supports work visas without a chance for citizenship) Yeah, good job on trying to take out Perry, immigration hawks.

149 I cannot believe I'm agreeing with Costas, but, seriously, why does anyone ever kick to Hester?

150 God is dead Yes, The Dennis has passed from this plane.

151 I FUCKING LOVE MANOLO BLAHNIKS!

152 BOOOBIES!!!! HI!!!!
I rode your pal the black colt today for HOURS!!! i think he thought he would die
 but in the end, he was also a very good boy. So hes officially useful.

153

I'm on the DOJ cheerleader squad, and I represent the Equality Opportunity Affirmative Action Group.

You go, girlfriend!

154 being eaten by by the few. I don't think you're going to find any 'ettes opposed to that.

155 The Dennis is not dead - he now sits at the right hand of Crom.

156 Yes, I'd believe that Occupyin' will become a new seasonal sport. That brings up a really disgusting notion: in the "off season," say, about now until about April, these young idealists won't be expected to do anything, being revolutionary warriors between campaigns and all. There will be massive freeloading (nothing new in that, but newly hep and institutionalized, now with more moral underpinning!), fund-raising at churches and schools, and the moral equivalent of the quartering of troops.

Some of us here may be old enough to remember a generation of beatnikish ne'er-do-wells who hung about  the university, bookstore, and art scenes, all claiming to have lost their careers due to blacklisting.

It will be like that, except moreso, and with less amusing storytelling.
I just can't wait!

157 I rode your pal the black colt today for HOURS!! So i get to ride the noodle next time i come out??????

158 Yeah, good job on trying to take out Perry, immigration hawks.

Posted by: Boone

I really don't blame Perry for some of his conciliatory remarks and past actions regarding the immigration question.  It would be political suicide to take a really harsh immigration stand in Texas.  Until the Federal Government takes a strong and decisive stand on controlling the Southern Border (which they haven't done in 40 years, Democrats and Republicans both), we are stuck.  Perry has to win elections in Texas, and he has to get SOME of the Hispanic vote.

Get real, h8ters. 

And Mitt HAS to pander to Democrats in Massachusetts because they've run the state for years, and so all the problems in Massachusetts are caused by Republicans anyways. I swear, people who think that the East Coast states are "smart" really try my patience. Jim McGeevy? Jon Corzine?  Deval Patrick?  Chuck Schumer? Bernie Sanders? Patrick Leahy?  Ted Kennedy? Ted Kennedy!

And that's when I woke up!

159
I rode your pal the black colt today for HOURS!!! i think he thought he would die

You're ahhhh....*pause*...welcome.

160 154 HEY REF!!!!

Posted by: gushie at November 13, 2011 10:17 PM (QNeKQ)

HEY GUSHKA!!!

And Hey Boobies...I mean Bebe!!!

161 Evenin' Rons and Ronettes

Anyone have an update on the hippies' DC Death March?

162 You're ahhhh....*pause*...welcome. NOOOOOOO, an actual black colt. Thanks for the warning, i almost got to taste dinner twice!

163 Litmus tests and loyalty oaths are what I want out of my candidates. Hell, punks, the whole purpose of primary contests is to weed out the undesirables. I'd rather die than have some Mexican loving RINO in office. If you don't agree to deport every illegal and to change that constitutional or whatever to eliminate the anchor baby problem then you're a fornicating RINO and you must be purged! Cain-Gingrich, '12. It's our way or the highway.

164 Anybody watching the presser, in which the adoring press are tossing him softball after softball after softball, so that he can blather on and just seem like a wonderful guy?

165 And Hey Boobies...I mean Bebe!!! Posted by: NC Ref Dude, you pony up for those manolos, and you can call me boobies all you like.

166 169 I rode your pal the black colt today for HOURS!!

So i get to ride the noodle next time i come out??????

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 13, 2011 10:27 PM (McoS/)

sure. But only if you like a horse that bucks. He barely broke and does backslide some

but give him a few months and this boy will be a CADILAC

167 Anyone ever notice the physical similarities of Michael Bloomberg and Mel Brooks?

Harumph!

168 So, when does "Occupy ... the Musical" come out?

169 only if you like a horse that bucks. Not that good a rider. I'll have to wait until he behaves.

170 Dude, you pony up for those manolos, and you can call me boobies all you like.

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 13, 2011 10:32 PM (McoS/)

Yeah gotta figure out how to send those charges to TxJew's Black Amex.  Shouldn't take long...some of those "stimulus" funds should cover it!

171 I'm still pissed because it looks like I'm going to lose a fantasy game by a hair because of Stafford's last garbage touchdown.  Fuck, it was 4th down too!  Bears let me down on that one.

172 Uh oh, Jets fumble

173 Anyone have an update on the hippies' DC Death March?

Posted by: kbdabear at November 13, 2011 10:31 PM (Y+DPZ)

Seems like they made Philly.  Hard to tell if they are at or just near the OccupyPhilly camp.  Took them about 12 hours to go 21 or so miles.

Day off of marching tomorrow.

On Tuesday, leave Philly for Wilmington, DE.

I think whomever answers the bell Tuesday morning to start marching will probably make it to DC.

174
So, when does "Occupy ... the Musical" come out?

I saw a preview today.

175 171
I rode your pal the black colt today for HOURS!!! i think he thought he would die

You're ahhhh....*pause*...welcome.

Posted by: The Black Colt at November 13, 2011 10:28 PM (LEcV+)

was it as good for you as it was for me?

You seemed a little unhappy when i ran you thru the brush and made you swim the river. I know you hated it when i squirted your sweaty bod with the cold hose. In fact i'd say you got rode hard and put away wet

well, some like it rough i suppose.

I guess next time i will take you up the hill and see how you like that.

176 Stupid question - how can the Femi-Nazis get any angerier? Gloria Steinem: 'I think we need to get much angrier' http://tinyurl.com/bo95qz3

177 191 Stupid question - how can the Femi-Nazis get any angerier?

Gloria Steinem: 'I think we need to get much angrier'

http://tinyurl.com/bo95qz3

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 13, 2011 10:38 PM (rGszl)

When people's reaction to their BS isn't an immediate cave.

178
Touchdown!

Phew...I thought they were going to get called for a hold.

179

Posted by: gushie at November 13, 2011 10:37 PM (QNeKQ)

Bwahahahaha!

180 I have totally taken leave of my senses.

181 Gloria Steinem: 'I think we need to get much angrier'

http://tinyurl.com/bo95qz3

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 13, 2011 10:38 PM (rGszl)

Funny, I thought she just needed to get laid once in a while. Or, maybe if she ever actually had children, or did something productive, or....

I know, pipe dreams, all of it.

182 i'd say you got rode hard and put away wet some of those "stimulus" funds should cover it!Posted by: NC Ref Are you sure you want to get "stimulated" round these parts? Fapping excluded of course.

183 If those are Medvedev cheerleaders, what do Putin's look like?

184 Hi Peaches. Rarely comment but here everyday.

185 I have totally taken leave of my senses Posted by: Buck Ofama ? you had sense at some point? Coulda fooled me.

186 Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! No question in my mind.

187 w00t!

Jets' butterfingers on punt return gives it back way downfield. Brady dances in the pocket, tosses another TD! Called back, player out of bounds, come back in for catch. Defense penalty goes away?!

Settle for 3 pt FG...

188 Evening, everyone!

189 Howdy Miss Tammy. How you feeling after your dance with the moonshine last night?

190 Posted by: chunky at November 13, 2011 10:44 PM (/lJ0Y)

Yep, that was certainly bizarre!  Jets are very lucky to be down by only 7.  

191 MissTammy, your favorite troll is here.

192 Hi Ms. Tammy!

193 Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! No question in my mind.  Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2011 10:43 PM (kaalw)

I feel like I've been out polled.

194 200 Evening, everyone!

Posted by: MissTammy at November 13, 2011 10:45 PM (3inkD)

====

Hey, MissT.  I see you arrived with a big round number.  That ought to make you popular with the bleary-eyed 'rons.

195 200 Evening, everyone!

Posted by: MissTammy at November 13, 2011 10:45 PM (3inkD)

hi tammy! its been a banner day at the farm! hows you?

196 Interception!!!!

197 Anyone can die at any moment...
Posted by: Holger at November 13, 2011 09:45 PM

Good point. That reminds me to change my underwear this week.

198 Bebe, your boobs will be banned soon. Bwaahahhh, yeah right. One good motorboat and the blog is mine!

199 tip interception!

Take that, Toes Ryan!

200 Trollboy's gone completely off the deep end tonight.

201
If those are Medvedev cheerleaders, what do Putin's look like?

I don't know, but Barry's aren't much to write home about.

202 206 Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! No question in my mind.  Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2011 10:43 PM (kaalw)

I feel like I've been out polled.

Posted by: Sasha Grey at November 13, 2011 10:47 PM (3aXbg)

Not a chance -- did you see the 300+ vote lead?

Hell, I'd rather have you read the State of the Union than the SCoaMF.

203 I feel like I've been out polled.

Posted by: Sasha Grey at November 13, 2011 10:47 PM (3aXbg)

Not a chance -- did you see the 300+ vote lead?

Oh, you mean votes!

204 I do not come from outer space.

205 218 I do not come from outer space.

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlinSeattle at November 13, 2011 10:53 PM (RZ8pf)

But you are out of this world!

206 Posted by: Trimegistus at November 13, 2011 09:47 PM (whWHb)

I'm not far behind you.....and thinking I might also need to do a roadtrip to pick up an alternate, in case the locals get squirrelly. What states near California are reasonable about gun sales?

207 Are Dyson vacs better because they have voiceovers with British accents?

208 Buck Whisper. Solve the box, unleash your pleasures...

209 I do not come from outer space.

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlinSeattle at November 13, 2011 10:53 PM (RZ8pf)

Prove it.

210 220 Posted by: Trimegistus at November 13, 2011 09:47 PM (whWHb)

I'm not far behind you.....and thinking I might also need to do a roadtrip to pick up an alternate, in case the locals get squirrelly. What states near California are reasonable about gun sales?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2011 10:56 PM (kaalw)

=====

buy 'em used.  stay off the lists.

211
I'm not far behind you.....and thinking I might also need to do a roadtrip to pick up an alternate, in case the locals get squirrelly. What states near California are reasonable about gun sales?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2011 10:56 PM (kaalw)

neveda?

212 Bebe, I have felt far worse after drinking than I did this morning, but I felt bad enough to remember why I don't drink. I didn't upchuck, though!

jc, all y'all Morons do love you some big round ones, don't you???? 

Are they putting words in my troll's mouth, or has he really gone off the deep end for good now?

Gush, you are the original horse whisperer!!

213  Bebe, your boobs will be banned soon.

Ace is a fascist.

Posted by: Buck Whisper

 

That's a terrible thing to say, and just this week he got an "honorable mention" as a commenter.

214 I'm having loads of fun leveling my new blood elf Priest to this cover... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_l_runP4-Q

215 Let's see how this works: Cowabunga!

216 Howdy. It is moi, your garlic breathing dragon. I have returned from the land of Gaming to recommend Italian food for all! Free, of course. Made with government cheese. OWS Portland, still in existence?

217 cthulhu, look through the NRA gun law website. http://www.nraila.org/gunlaws/

218 Should HAVE! Should HAVE! Learn to write the fucking English language, you retarded little snivelling shit!

219 How does one go about proving they are not from outer space?

220 Gush, you are the original horse whisperer!!

Posted by: MissTammy at November 13, 2011 10:59 PM (3inkD)

naw im a piker. I met a few tho. they'd tell ya im just a girl with a soft heart and a streak of stupid/stubborn, who keeps at it.

221
Girls, he should of been castrated, he bites.

YESSSSS!

222 234 How does one go about proving they are not from outer space?

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlinSeattle at November 13, 2011 11:01 PM (RZ8pf)

been trying for years, if you figure it out let me know.

223 I asked my mommy where I came from.  She told me a story about birds, bees, and then something about never going into mommy's and daddy's bedroom without knocking first, especially if I hear what sounds like someone's yelling.  I told her, "I thought I came from Cleveland." 

224

Posted by: Genetic Tunder at November 13, 2011 11:00 PM (vQfJ3)

THat's really odd, the Beastie Boys letting some retarded guy sing Benny And The Jets. But I guess he enjoyed it.

225 Please, Buck Whisper, no tears because you cannot get a girl. Those tears are a waste of good suffering!

226 PGiS is a Lefty! Who'd a thunk it???  

Every guy I ever dated including the one I married was a dark haired, blue eyed, baseball playing Catholic lefty.

I like Lefties!

227 So, how much cocaine is needed for a pair of stompy boots, and would that qualify as the footwear of the AoSHQ Lifestyle?

228
How does one go about proving they are not from outer space?

A summer trip to Pock-ee-ston worked for me.

229 How does one go about proving they are not from outer space?

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlinSeattle at November 13, 2011 11:01 PM (RZ8pf)

Showing boobs always works.

230 Hmmmmm.....didn't work the first time. Let's try that again: Cowabunga!

231 I should think it would be pretty easy to prove you're not from outer space: just call up all the people who've been to outer space and ask if they saw you there.

232 How does one go about proving they are not from outer space?

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlinSeattle at November 13, 2011 11:01 PM (RZ8pf)

I lock you in a room with a bowl of water, a cat and a glass of soured milk and see what happens.

233 Alrighty, so the violin is in tune, but I'm rusty as heck.

234

PGiS is a Lefty! Who'd a thunk it???  

It's true I'm sinister, would've been drowned as witch in earlier times.

235 234 How does one go about proving they are not from outer space?

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlinSeattle at November 13, 2011 11:01 PM (RZ8pf)

First, turn on your webcam.....

236

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2011 11:04 PM (kaalw)

Surf's...up?

237

Posted by: gushie at November 13, 2011 10:58 PM

 

the biggest problem is being a california citizen, hard to escape that, and the Gun Control Act of 1968

 

If you live in CA you are boned, just go pick out what you want in CA and wait the 10 days.

 

You can't buy a gun from someone in a diffrent state unless you go through a FFL.

 

thank Chris Dodd's daddy,  whatever his name is(fucktoid dodd) for that  

238 How does one go about proving they are not from outer space?

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlinSeattle at November 13, 2011 11:01 PM (RZ8pf)

been trying for years, if you figure it out let me know.

Posted by: gushie at November 13, 2011 11:02 PM (QNeKQ)

Me, too.  I'll give you some silver dimes.

239 Hey, GT!!

vika, all your garlic haz belong to me. I mainline the stuff.

Korean food, also full of garlicky goodness.

240

Alrighty, so the violin is in tune, but I'm rusty as heck.

Is that a sex reference? /jk but it kind of sounded like one.

241 Posted by: Alex at November 13, 2011 11:05 PM (e/SJC) Care to make a wager?

242 Mmmmm garlic.

243 252

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2011 11:04 PM (kaalw)

Surf's...up?

Posted by: Robert (spot the references!) at November 13, 2011 11:06 PM (F79HU)

Did it play? Or were you just guessing? I'm giving up on in it for now.

244
248

Alien Nation.

245  How does one go about proving they are not from outer space?

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlinSeattle at November 13, 2011 11:01 PM (RZ8pf)

been trying for years, if you figure it out let me know.

Posted by: gushie at November 13, 2011 11:02 PM (QNeKQ)

Me, too.  I'll give you some silver dimes.

Posted by: Ron Paul at November 13, 2011 11:06 PM (4q5tP)

Please keep me in mind as well when you find out.

246 Hi, everyone!

247 How does one go about proving they are not from outer space?

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlinSeattle at November 13, 2011 11:01 PM

Have a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth drawn up...

248

Alien Nation.

Posted by: Wodeshed at November 13, 2011 11:08 PM (LEcV+)

THere's one other...real easy...you can do it!

Did it play? Or were you just guessing? I'm giving up on in it for now.

Posted by: cthulhu at November 13, 2011 11:08 PM (kaalw)

It's imgur, I filled in the blanks on the url.

249

Whether you agree or disagree, if immigration orthodoxy is going to be the new differentiator between RINOs and True Conservatives, better that we get it all out in the open.

Well, no Shiite Sherlock. McCain argued that Americans are incapable of picking fuckinÂ’ lettuce, not even at $100k a year. If it wasnÂ’t for Palin I would have abstained from the POTUS election slot. That even knowing that Obama is a commie bastard (literally).

That anti-American Shiite sticks.

Perry – You have no heart if you don’t give illegal aliens a $100k – let him run into one of the Fast & Furious..

A nation that will not defend itself from an unarmed invasion has no defense.

Cain- supported a path to citizenship
Posted by: Boone at November 13, 2011 10:19 PM (Jl3Mu)

See, it says so right on his web-page...

Illegal immigration also puts a tremendous strain on AmericaÂ’s entitlement and health care systems. Illegal immigrants are typically uninsured and cannot afford to pay for their medical care, driving up costs for all Americans, even those actually insured. In fact, several hospitals in the U.S. have declared bankruptcy as a result of the costs of caring for illegal immigrants.

We must secure our borders, enforce our laws and promote the existing path to citizenship.

250 It's true I'm sinister, would've been drowned as witch in earlier times.

I think they did the same to Gingers...and I started out life as a lefty, but they smacked my hand in Kindergarten til I switched. I stuttered for quite awhile afterwards.

There is a stuttering Gingerf*ck of a lefthanded failure joke in there somewhere, but I am not clever enough to make it!

251 img

imgur

Really now?

252 Mmmmm garlic. Posted by: NC Ref Asshole!

253 Korean BBQ for the win!!!! LETS GO!!

254
Burress, you one nutted bastard.

255 i m g u r

Good gravy...

256 The first guy Joe Biden calls for football advice is Rex Ryan.

257 Korean BBQ for the win!!!! LETS GO!!

There are lots of great places up the road from me in Garden Grove!

258

Posted by: MissTammy at November 13, 2011 11:11 PM (3inkD)

You poor dear...here, let me untie your shoelaces for you.

259 Mexican immigrants do the job that Americans won't do: voting for Democrats.

260 According to Verum Serum, 3 kids were stopped by Portland police, and they had homemade 'grenades' in the car with them.  From their pictures, yep, they look like real geenyusses, all right.   

261

262 But perhaps I've said too much.

263 We must secure our borders, enforce our laws andpromote the existing path to citizenship. send those fukkers home

Posted by: Rmoney Voter at November

 

there fixed it for you

 

If they can't get jobs they will go home, simple

264 Ive never had Korean barbecue.

I always figured Koreans were tough and hard to chew.

265 I gotta go kick the kid off the other computer. I may be back to tell you a stupid union protest story if I can wrestle control of the fast computer out of the kid's hands.

266 If anyone has 8 minutes to spare tonight check out moveon.org new video explaining why this country is not broke, made by the same folks who brought the story of stuff.  I laughed so hard the wine came out my nose

267 You poor dear...here, let me untie your shoelaces for you.

Mmmmm, very nice, Robert, very nice indeed!

268 Number of rapes at Tea Parties - Zero. Number of rapes at the "occupations" - dozens and counting: Woman Raped at Occupy Philadelphia http://tinyurl.com/cpyyufc

269 There is a stuttering Gingerf*ck of a lefthanded failure joke in there somewhere, but I am not clever enough to make it!

Posted by: MissTammy at November 13, 2011 11:11 PM

Think of the money they saved you on special hammers, screwdrivers, staplers and pens. You should be thanking them....

270 Glancing at the official list of non-sexual references... hey, there's nothing on this page!

271 Mmmmm, very nice, Robert, very nice indeed!

Posted by: MissTammy at November 13, 2011 11:15 PM (3inkD)

With that done, I now examine you white cotton pantries with the little pink bowls for rice.

272 Hey, is everybody still fighting? Good, just checking.

273 There are lots of great places up the road from me in Garden Grove!

Posted by: MissTammy at November 13, 2011 11:13 PM (3inkD)

i know. been to most of them. maybe we can meetup one night. That would be AWESOME.

274 .here, let me untie your shoelaces for you. Heh? Is there going to be a foot rub?

275 Number of rapes at Tea Parties - Zero.

Number of ANYTHINGS* at Tea Parties -- Zero.

* -- Includes body odor, crack sales, etc.

276 Hey, is everybody still fighting?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2011 11:17 PM (bxiXv)

Pistols at dawn!  *Slap*

277 My apologies for not responding in a timely manner... I'm trying to play WoW and watch my fantasy foobmall game while halfway paying attention here. Not to mention enjoying some awesome music.

278 Why the hell do you think any of us care what you believe? Everything you believe is stupid, unimaginative, or just plain wrong. You've apparently got some unholy combination of Asperger's Syndrome and plain garden-variety pig stupidity, so that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about and won't shut the fuck up about it. Any amusement value your vapid little turd posts might have quickly gives way to boredom, irritation, and contempt for how fucking stupid you are.

And the final stage is embarassment. It's embarassing to watch you make such a shit of yourself in public. Don't you have any self-respect? It's insulting to have such a lame-ass ignoramus trolling here. Doesn't Ace of Spades at least rate a C-list troll?

279
If anyone has 8 minutes to spare tonight check out moveon.org new video explaining why this country is not broke, made by the same folks who brought the story of stuff.  I laughed so hard the wine came out my nose

That movie changed my life.

280 Somebody wants to fight?  What?

281 Heh? Is there going to be a foot rub?

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 13, 2011 11:17 PM (McoS/)

There is going to be compulsive knot untying and rice grain counting.

282 Hey, is everybody still fighting?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2011 11:17 PM

 

not so much, the trolls are terrible though.

DEET has no effect

283 KZ, ended up having to buy all that for the husband, lol!

Robert, just make sure you examine it slowly and deliberately. Take  your time, there's no need to rush.

284 Is that a sex reference? /jk but it kind of sounded like one.

No, I really ordered an electric violin so that I could practice without disturbing the neighbors.  We won't get into my sex life, since it would be... depressing.

285

DEET has no effect

Posted by: jake at November 13, 2011 11:19 PM (Sdl9x)

Nerve Gas. Just saying.

286

Posted by: Maetenloch

 

 

Thanks for the ONT

 

 

287 Posted by: Trimegistus at November 13, 2011 11:18 PM (whWHb) Do you mind if I copy that and send it to Bethesda?

288 Good night, all. The patterns in the tabletop are starting to turn into little faces saying "Go to bed already!"

289 Haven't read the comments, so sorry if this has been mentioned, but on a cable channel, G4, they're running a show called Afghanistan Bomb Patrol. If you haven't seen this you really should. These guys are brave as hell. Anyone who suggests that these spoiled occupier brats are in the same category, should be ashamed. Anyway, it just reminds me that I have to go to a couple of websites where you can donate money to do things for military personnel over the holidays.

290 I'm a lefty when I write, but I do most everything else with my right hand.


And yes, I know how that sounds you pervs.

291 Good night, T-meg!

292 And yes, I know how that sounds you pervs.

Posted by: Alex at November 13, 2011 11:21 PM (e/SJC)

Wheres the fun if you don't give us openings?

293

there fixed it for you

 

If they can't get jobs they will go home, simple

Posted by: jake at November 13, 2011 11:14 PM (Sdl9x)

I know it is hard to grok that shiite, Cain said that he is fine with the legal immigrants.. the rest are fuckin parasites.

294 Wheres the fun if you don't give us openings?

Jerry Sandusky told me the same thing.

Too early?

295 Night, Trim!!

Tunder, what is a blood elf Priest???

296 I'm a lefty when I write, but I do most everything else with my right hand.

You only use me for the respectable stuff, but don't think I see the disgusting way you carry on with Rightie when you think I'm not around.

297 Posted by: MissTammy at November 13, 2011 11:23 PM (3inkD)

World of Warcrack.

298 Ah, that makes sense, Holger, thanks. I am not at all fluent in Gamerspeak!

299 So, I get to drive an hour and a half tomorrow to go shopping for suits.  Thrilling.  Plus, I discovered to my dismay that I'm no longer a size 44R, but am now a 46R.  Damn I've gotten fat...

300 World of Warcrack. Posted by: Holger at November 13, 2011 11:24 PM (zaVyn) Did you say... oh, never mind.

301 #307: It's a World of Warcraft character. Blood Elf is one of the races of the Horde, and Priest is a character class (basically, your job).

302 261 rmoney voter You show me which Texas University has a $100 k difference between in-state and out of state tuition.

303 It's never too early, Alex.

304 Comments totally disappearing again.

Proof that God exists, and wants us to be happy???

Definite feature, though, not a bug. Get a clue.

305 288 Hey, is everybody still fighting?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2011 11:17 PM (bxiXv)

Pistols at dawn!  *Slap*

Posted by: Robert at November 13, 2011 11:18 PM (F79HU)

==========

Forsooth !!!

306 296 Is that a sex reference? /jk but it kind of sounded like one.

No, I really ordered an electric violin so that I could practice without disturbing the neighbors.  We won't get into my sex life, since it would be... depressing.

Posted by: Alex at November 13, 2011 11:19 PM (e/SJC)

What kind did you get? What did you consider? Why did you pick the one you got?

307

I know it is hard to grok that shiite, Cain said that he is fine with the legal immigrants.. the rest are fuckin parasites.

Posted by: Rmoney Voter at November 13, 2011 11:23 PM

 

well we do have laws here in the USA, it is illegal to work here unless you meet the proper criteria.

 

Attrition works,

workplace enforcement

any illegal caught up by th epo-po gets deported

 

this is not rocket science, just will power

308

Posted by: Alex at November 13, 2011 11:27 PM

Back in the day I had a Funeral, Court or Wedding suit.. yeah just the one!

309 310 Comments totally disappearing again.

Posted by: Buck Whisper at November 13, 2011 11:25 PM (jx1/v)

Maybe it's God telling you to lay off the shrooms.

310 Brazilian BBQ!

311 Ive never had Korean barbecue.

Bulgogi is YUMMY!

312 So, what race and class are you, Tunder, if I may be so bold as to ask? Does one get to choose?

313 I know nobody cares, but though the last few days have sucked bad I'm still doing NaNoWriMo. Up to almost 40k words. Hope tomorrow is better.

314 312 So, I get to drive an hour and a half tomorrow to go shopping for suits.  Thrilling.  Plus, I discovered to my dismay that I'm no longer a size 44R, but am now a 46R.  Damn I've gotten fat...

Posted by: Alex at November 13, 2011 11:27 PM (e/SJC)

Where are you? I can't think of a place 90+ miles from a men's clothiers.

315
Number of rapes at the "occupations" - dozens and counting:

Woman Raped at Occupy Philadelphia

http://tinyurl.com/cpyyufc

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 13, 2011 11:15 PM (rGszl)

You know, we know how to help you guys with that!

You already have some rocks and knives, right?

316 Celcilio.  Whatever was on Amazon.com.  Because the price was right and I'm not looking to spend more on a nicer instrument until I settle down more permanently somewhere.

317 Sanchez throws for another Patriots TD.

318 275 We must secure our borders, enforce our laws andpromote the existing path to citizenship. send those fukkers home

Posted by: Rmoney Voter at November

there fixed it for you

If they can't get jobs they will go home, simple

Posted by: jake at November 13, 2011 11:14 PM (Sdl9x)

Good way to work on that.  Not do business with companies that hire illegals.  And that doesn't just mean telling the company that you don't want the illegals they do hire to make sure the illegals aren't working on your land.

319 the last few days have sucked bad I'm still doing NaNoWriMo. Up to almost 40k words. Hope tomorrow is better. Posted by: Merovign, You can do it Roy!

320 I can't think of a place 90+ miles from a men's clothiers.

You're a city boy, aintcha, cthulu???

I am 40 miles from the nearest McDonald's, and 3 hours from the nearest men's clothiers. (Assuming Springfield MO even has one)

321 Welp, time to sleep. Got a long day of not working tomorrow.

Thanks JEF you SCOAMF!

322  Brazilian BBQ!

Posted by: vika ut sig at November 13, 2011 11:29 PM

I know that if we barbeque 2 Brazilian people, It will feed the worl and be totally funded by future taxes that start in 2017.

 

323 Back in the day I had a Funeral, Court or Wedding suit.. yeah just the one!

When I worked retail during college, I owned about three.  I'm looking to eventually buy five suits total, plus probably two sportcoats.  Right now, I'm looking just for the sportcoat for next weekend.

324 Where are you? I can't think of a place 90+ miles from a men's clothiers.

Leesville, LA.  It's an hour to Alexandria and about 90 minutes to Lake Charles.  The places in Alexandria didn't have a good selection, so I'm going to try my luck in Lake Charles.

325 Gushie, yes, we will meet up for sure. Y-Not, care to join us?

326 When I worked retail during college, I owned about three.  I'm looking to eventually buy five suits total, plus probably two sportcoats.  Right now, I'm looking just for the sportcoat for next weekend.

Posted by: Alex at November 13, 2011 11:34 PM

327 315 261 rmoney voter

You show me which Texas University has a $100 k difference between in-state and out of state tuition.

Posted by: Boone at November 13, 2011 11:27 PM (Jl3Mu)

Fuuucck!

You got me - $100k in state vs. out of state... or $100.00 in state vs. out of fuckin country parasites, but fine upstanding citrizens as far as the great state of texas is concerned.

Perry is right - I have no heart - and with Perry on this - eliminate not only the DoE, but all federal funding for colleges. It's easy, like raisning the state drinking age or losing all federal DoT funds (thanks Reagan)  - if your state thinks illegal aliens are legal state residents they don't DoE funds, or DoT , or whatever, not like one has anything to do with the other.

328

Posted by: Alex at November 13, 2011 11:34 PM

Get the sportcoats and go for the Breitbart look...jeans and a collared shirt and a sportcoat. works everywhere.

329 332 I can't think of a place 90+ miles from a men's clothiers.

You're a city boy, aintcha, cthulu???

I am 40 miles from the nearest McDonald's, and 3 hours from the nearest men's clothiers. (Assuming Springfield MO even has one)

Posted by: MissTammy at November 13, 2011 11:34 PM (3inkD)

I was thinking that the suit stores probably outnumbered the Mickey-D's. They're thick as flies on a turd around here.

Somewhat guilty, though -- spent a lot of time growing up in suburban horse country.

330 284 Hey, is everybody still fighting?

Good, just checking. Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2011 11:17 PM

Some scores just don't get settled amicably

331

Posted by: Rmoney Voter at November 13, 2011 11:37 PM

 

fukk bro you are confusing...

 

are you pro illegal or anti illegal?

332 342 Girls, the truth, what do you want?
Posted by: Buck Whisper at November 13, 2011 11:39 PM

A sammich and a diamond. Move your ass

333 Dang, was hoping for a better game tonight.  Didn't really care which team won, though I like the Jets, but wanted it to be closer.   

334 WTF is up with the new pedophile troll? That's some creepy shit. Somebody needs to track down the IP and find out what he's got in the basement.

335 Hey, is everybody still fighting?

Yup - Some folks just cannot distinguish between Legal Permanent Residents (LPRs) and illegal alien invaders; that it is unlawful for LPRs to take welfare but illegal aliens get the free christmas bag o goodies...

336 little ones, is that your main interest? No, no little ones. sufficient ones. Hey, that's it! it's a troll due to its tragic insufficiency! (i stole that from Gushie. the whole sufficiency thing. but it describes it all so well!)

337 Revolving bookcase for MissTammy: http://www.resourcefurniture.com/space-savers/queen-space-saving-beds/lgm Hey, y'all. Just dropping in for a minute.

338 Mindy, thank you!!!!!!!  And hello!

339   Perhaps not much interest to many, but I gotta tell this story.

   Today, oldest granddaughter and I went out hunting-she had her bow, I wasn't armed. We primarily were after a deer blind to move it to a different location. Got there, and saw 14 wild turkeys noodling around a clearing. So I told her slip into the woods, and get close as possible. She did just that and the result was her first turkey--nailed with a broadhead.

  Needless to say, I'm the planet's proudest grampa.

340

are you pro illegal or anti illegal?

Posted by: jake

PRO - LPR

Illegals who bypass customs / immigration should be in POW work camps.

341 Bunch of pussies get all butthurt about being called heartless.  Churchill's had me described like that and it doesn't bug me.

342 I bet someone beat me to this but.... "Why yes he does. Hmm so why can't we have have official US government cheerleaders?" We do...we call them the MSM/MFM.

343 Enough of racist / anti poor hurdled masses rushing for the border shiite.

344 Get the sportcoats and go for the Breitbart look...jeans and a collared shirt and a sportcoat. works everywhere.

It's good for casual occasions, but I still need a suit for job interviews and, eventually, work.  Jeans, a collared shirt and boots work well with a sportcoat for date night however. Which is kind of my plan.

345 MissTammy, hello to you. And irongrampa, you passed along some good genes to your granddaughter!

346 LAst one.

Bunch of pussies get all butthurt about being called heartless.

I do not get hurt over being called 'heartless'. Just makes it clear who supports the other side.

347 I go away for a few weeks and the place is overrun with dicktards. WTF up with that?

348 And goodnight. Hope you all have a fantastic week!

349 PRO - LPR

Illegals who bypass customs / immigration should be in POW work camps.

Posted by: Rmoney Voter at November 13, 2011 11:45 PM

 

so amnesty??

350 Congrats to your gdaughter, Irongrampa. I don't have the heart to hunt, but I sure do like to eat what the hunters bring home.

351 Back in the day when I did suits a lot, I'd get mine from K Ratan Custom Clothier, bespoke.

You'd get a flyer, show up at his hotel room when he hit town, and go through fabric swatches and styles, get measured (unless you were wearing a previous K Ratan suit), and have the thing custom made and shipped from Hong Kong -- for a price comparable to the Mens Wearhouse "good stuff" after they got done with alteration charges -- and it didn't look like it was previously made for an "average person" and tailored to you.
 
I visited the "back office" when I was in Hong Kong.....er.....they put together 90% of a suit in about 18 hours, in a little room on the 14th floor of a skyscraper with elevators that are about 2'x4'. It's Hong Kong, Jake.

352 No, no little ones. sufficient ones.

Hey, that's it! it's a troll due to its tragic insufficiency! (i stole that from Gushie. the whole sufficiency thing. but it describes it all so well!)

Posted by: bebe's boobs destroy at November 13, 2011 11:43 PM (McoS/)

i do believe you are right. Tragic insufficiency would explain a LOT with this one. Including the anger, the lashing out at sexy miss T, the inability to get a GF and move out from moms.

poor guy. Kinda feel bad for him. the only thing more tragic are the GOOD LORD GET THAT AWAY!!!!! ones. Both live live of lonely desperation.

Or get jobs with sideshows.

353 It doesn't sound too sporting to hunt blind deer.

354

I do not get hurt over being called 'heartless'. Just makes it clear who supports the other side.

Posted by: Rmoney Voter at November 13, 2011 11:49 PM (7MFxV)

Yes we all know your candidate doesn't like the thought of his lawn care crew having college degrees.

355
   Btw, oldest granddaughter is 12.

356 361 I go away for a few weeks and the place is overrun with dicktards.

WTF up with that?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at November 13, 2011 11:50 PM (bxiXv)

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you're a beacon of sanity?  you're a dicktard repellent?  you recovered enough so this place actually seems strange to you again?

357 It doesn't sound too sporting to hunt blind deer.

Posted by: andycanuck at November 13, 2011 11:51 PM

 

well, i just hunt the cripples

358

What 6 and 7 year olds know about the ocean:

4)-Sharks are ugly and mean, and have big teeth, just like Emily
Richardson. She's not my friend any more. (Kylie,age 6)

Link to Theo Spark for the rest.

359   Needless to say, I'm the planet's proudest grampa.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 13, 2011 11:45 PM (SAMxH)

congrats. Im proud for you.

looks like you doin good. I've missed seeing you out here on the ONT.

360 Needless to say, I'm the planet's proudest grampa.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 13, 2011 11:45 PM (SAMxH)

Sweeeeeeet!

361 Needless to say, I'm the planet's proudest grampa.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 13, 2011 11:45 PM (SAMxH)

As well you should be, and good for her!  Bet she was excited.   

362 There are lots of great places up the road from me in Garden Grove!

Posted by: MissTammy at November 13, 2011 11:13 PM

I am 40 miles from the nearest McDonald's, and 3 hours from the nearest men's clothiers. (Assuming Springfield MO even has one)

Posted by: MissTammy at November 13, 2011 11:34 PM

This is a paradox....if you are in Garden Grove, you're within two blocks of a tailor...and less than a mile from two McDonalds....

363

Posted by: irongrampa at November 13, 2011 11:45 PM

 

that is bad ass

364 Back in the day when I did suits a lot, I'd get mine from K Ratan Custom Clothier, bespoke.

I've thought about it.  They have an office in Dallas, so it might be something I do as part of a larger trip.  When I was deployed, I considered spending my R&R in London and visiting Saville Row.  Unfortunately, I don't have quite that amount of money to spend.

365

This is a paradox....if you are in Garden Grove, you're within two blocks of a tailor...and less than a mile from two McDonalds....

Posted by: KZnextzone at November 13, 2011 11:55 PM (ZUWaD)

thats not where she is right now!

366 you're a beacon of sanity? you're a dicktard repellent? you recovered enough so this place actually seems strange to you again? Posted by: jc at November 13, 2011 11:52 PM (ufJKx) Ehh, sounds like any of those options are better than reality.

367 353   Needless to say, I'm the planet's proudest grampa.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 13, 2011 11:45 PM (SAMxH)

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I watched a gramps perform the marriage ceremony for his grandson and a beautiful gal on Friday.  He was beaming pretty good too.

368 Mmm. Bacon of sanity.

369 So, Patriots...

370 Ehh, sounds like any of those options are better than reality. Welcome to the worst nightmare of all...reality!

371 KZ, I'm in Arkansas at the moment.....

372 Wow I just flipped on Talking Dead for the hell of it.  Talk about shitty audio.

373

I'm in Arkansas at the moment.....

Posted by: MissTammy at November 14, 2011 12:01 AM

Don't get that red mud on your suit...the judge will hold you in contempt....

374 Gushie, perhaps some music will soothe its trollish soul...

http://tinyurl.com/cstfhv

375

Its hard to believe that the OWS social experiment didn't work out. Gather people with a 99% chance of being a loser under any social system, and  unexpectedly it all goes to shit in 2 months.

 Someone should let them know that if they cant make it in a capitalist system, they pretty much have no hope of making it in any system.

376 Haha, KZ has been to Arkansas!!!!!!!!!!!! 

377

 

 

 

 

out

378 I didn't read the link but Instapundit has a report of another OWS rape in Philadelphia. That's where the D.C. marchers are tonight too IIRC.

I'm sure those two things are unrelated.

379 331 If you don't agree with the in-state tuition, that's fine (I agree that the heartless comment was dumb, but no more so than Cain's use of the race card or Newt's rightwing social engineering) but if you want someone better on immigration, that candidate isn't running. Perry has done more to secure the border than all of the other candidates combined, and every other candidate wants to not only give paltry benefits to illegal aliens, but also citizenship.

380 387   Its hard to believe that the OWS social experiment didn't work out. Gather people with a 99% chance of being a loser under any social system, and  unexpectedly it all goes to shit in 2 months.

 Someone should let them know that if they cant make it in a capitalist system, they pretty much have no hope of making it in any system.

Posted by: Jimmah at November 14, 2011 12:05 AM (fJM+V)

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I know lots of people who have lost everything at least once.  Some people have the will to get back up, and some don't.  Some people need a time to mourn after a failure before they are capable of rising again.

In other words, have a little faith.  Not everyone of those you think are doomed to drown in their own bullshit will always be so.  Some will, but not all.

381 "That is why he is the worst GOP candidate possible for conservatives.

Posted by: Quagmire at November 13, 2011 09:41 PM (wl2vr)"

What in the hell?

Because of Texas needing highways?  Taking land for highways is totally compatible with conservatism.  It's a completely legitimate use of the government's eminent domain powers. 

Anyone saying Perry is the worst conservative among the candidates is a fucking moron.  I can totally understand those who say he's not a very skilled communicator, but his record is 95% conservative.  Balancing 12 years of budgets after a stellar record as a fiscal conservative before he was even governor should count for something.

Sadly, it counts for absolutely nothing.  Every other GOP governor can see that.  They see that Romneycare style government, which is bankrupting MA, is a better career path for GOP governors, than the very hard and humble work of NOT spending, so you can keep taxes low and budgets balanced.  That's the path where you don't use government to fix every problem, so when your economy is great, nimrods claim you didn't do it because the state was prosperous when unimpeded by government.

That hard work of keeping government out of the fucking way is the entire point of conservatism.  Sure, Perry isn't 100% in tune with me on 100% of issues.  But he's the only one running with a record even approaching conservatism in practice, and largely, it's a great record.

"If Romney can best do it, then I'm pro-Romney.  Posted by: chemjeff at November 13, 2011 09:34 PM (s7mIC) "

Why?  Beating Obama... for what reason?  I have reasons for wanting Obama to be beaten.  I do not agree with a government mandate to buy health insurance.  I do not agree with allowing horrible spending to continue (Romney did this as governor, and the path he left MA on is bankruptcy).  I do not agree with 'strong' gun control.

I have answers to "why" when people say we should beat Obama.  Romney is better than Obama, sure, but he's been on the wrong side of everything that matters, aside from foreign policy, and he's been kinda crappy there in 2007-8 upon occasion.

I'm not saying there's no difference between Obama and Romney, but if you really want Obama to be beaten, of course that should mean you disagree with Romney's actual record on most issues.

Respectfully, I think that is compromising WAY too much for a marginal increase in electability.  Frankly, I don't even think Romney is more electable than Perry or Newt just because he's a much slicker politician.  He LOOKS slick.  He is the epitome of a politician, and no one trusts him on anything.  The right will have difficulty unifying. 

I didn't see Palin's few gaffes in 2008 cost a single vote.  It was Mccain's inability to be a leader that cost votes. 

I understand where you're coming from, and I think it's also very important to beat Obama, but I do not think compromising so much just for a slicker package is either justified or even smart politics.

And just my view, but if a resume of Romneycare beats a resume of 12 years of balanced budgets in the GOP, I think we need to consider the GOP a failure and move on.

382 Okay, this thought just occurred to me about 5 min. ago, as a tangent to another conversation but here goes...

Okay, fine.  Some Municipal Leaders are clearing out some camps of Occupoopers in time for Winter Weather and for "Health" reasons.

What sort of guarantee do the citizens of these municipalities have that the Occupoopers won't be welcomed back in early Summer of 2012 (when the weather is balmier) and allowed to fester until late Oct. or Early Nov. 2012 when they decide to "Occupy" polling places all over the towns and cities they have encamped in?

(Anyone remember the New Black Panther Party in Philly?  And fucking SPARE ME your internet boasts about how YOU personally would kick the ass of anybody that tried that shit in YOUR town.  I'm more worried about the nice lady who was thinking that she doesn't really understand all of the issues but thinks that she should probably cast a vote for something new that might work better than the past 4 years.  She sure as shit isn't going to brave a sea of truncheons or wade into the melee with you.  She'll just smartly turn her car around and forget that she ever wanted to cast a vote that Tuesday.)

Yes, there is a lot of sport to be had at these pathetic loser's expense...but.

Their stated goal is to disrupt civil society and commerce.

I don't think we should be so tolerant of them next iteration.

383 Back in the day when I did suits a lot, I'd get mine from K Ratan Custom Clothier, bespoke.

I've thought about it.  They have an office in Dallas, so it might be something I do as part of a larger trip.  When I was deployed, I considered spending my R&R in London and visiting Saville Row.  Unfortunately, I don't have quite that amount of money to spend.  Posted by: Alex

Indochino.com

Not as expensive as the usual bespoke stuff but made to order with free alterations. Emphasis on the slim look suits. Their entry level stuff is about $380. The one I ordered is my favorite suit though my only other bespoke was a cheap one made in Thailand.

384 Deety, I'm with you on that, and I think the reason why the authorities didn't cut this shit off earlier is, one, because they agree, and two, they or the current administration realized how this could be used. 

It wouldn't work as well in Washington State, as we are all mail-in ballot here, but of course that has it's own potential for vote fraud. 

385 Indochino.com

I've seen their site before, and heard good reviews.  My only issue is that the slim stuff doesn't look as good on me.  I don't have the body for it.

386 394 Amen, Deety.

387 Cops in Oregon pull over 3 Occupy Portland scummers for speeding, detect marijuana smoke, and find homemade grenades in the car

Marijuana and explosives. There's a brilliant combination

388 Hmmmmm, is it time to bust out the paddles and electrodes?!

389 True, despite a fairly good crop of advisors, which Romney doesn't pay attention to, (Fmr. Sec. Navy Lehman, Robert Kagan, et al) who would never tell him to go on a trade war with China, then again Cain had Rumsfeld's spokesman, and he forgot the first rule . Don't trade American for Gitmo hostages, So he helped saddle the state with cap and trade, forming the RGGI, and MassCare, I know it would have been worse, but still, plus he's a merger and acquisition guy, for every good
deal like Sealy and Clear Channel, there's an AMPAD that didn't go well.

In other news, left out of the 60 minutes piece, 'unexpectedly' Kerry trading ahead of the Prescription Drug bill, same for Moran,

390 Marijuana and explosives might resurrect the ONT, though, kbdabear!

391 401 Hmmmmm, is it time to bust out the paddles and electrodes?!

Posted by: MissTammy at November 14, 2011 12:36 AM (3inkD)

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The sense of crazy is overwhelming.

392

Deety, you scare me because it sounds so very plausible.

393 Hmmm, I really want to order a suit from Indochino now.  Perhaps I'll hunt down a tailor this week to take my measurements...

394 jc, its psycho, I have no doubt. Bi-polar, at the very least!

395

Ah, it's the old "Well, even though Perry can't debate for shit, HE WOULD HAVE LOST ANYWAY BECAUSE THE GOP HATES IMMIGRANTS!!!" line.

Yes, I exaggerate, but that's close. No, we need no club to beat Perry over the head with. He manages to do that on his own when he debates.

396 407 jc, its psycho, I have no doubt. Bi-polar, at the very least!

Posted by: MissTammy at November 14, 2011 12:41 AM (3inkD)

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hopefully it is getting some help.  Thankfully, it's also disappearing in real time, so let's just ignore and enjoy.

397 Agreed. Are you still having to shovel?

398 Good evening again.

399 So I see Firefox 8.0 is out.

Anyone try it yet?

400 Evening, Robert.

401 Alrighty, I'm off to bed.  Long day tomorrow of house hunting and driving.  Everyone have a good night.

402 401 Hmmmmm, is it time to bust out the paddles and electrodes?! Posted by: MissTammy at November 14, 2011 12:36 AM (3inkD) I think it's time to go through the pockets and look for loose change.

403 Several Obamavilles were depopulated over the weekend. Reading between the lines, I have a hunch that the worst camps are worrying the SCOAMF after his endorsement of them and Dem mayors got orders to chase the vermin off the streets

The wiped out Obamavilles also may have made the mistake of refusing union "guidance"

404 Say, how long did it take you to come around on that jazzy Sabbath album.....not liking it at all.

405 Evening, Robert.

Posted by: MissTammy at November 14, 2011 12:49 AM (3inkD)

How YOU doin'?

406 Night Alex, hello Dark Lord!!!!!!!

407 As intolerable as the current immigration situation is, nothing -- nothing -- is worse than killing little tykes who can't defend themselves.

408 Say, how long did it take you to come around on that jazzy Sabbath album.....not liking it at all.

Posted by: MissTammy at November 14, 2011 12:50 AM (3inkD)

I bought it in...2002?  Gave it a couple of spins, nothing jumped out at me immediately and basically put it away until I ripped it to my laptop a couple of weeks ago.  Gave it another chance and BAM!  I lurve.

409 410 Agreed. Are you still having to shovel?

Posted by: MissTammy at November 14, 2011 12:44 AM (3inkD)

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yeah, I have been procrastinating.  I love that word.  starts out with a "pro" like you are going to do something, and then pffffft - nothing.  talk about a head fake embedded in just a couple of syllables.

410 Sadly, conservatives are repeating the same mistakes from 2008.  We are fucked for the second time in 8 years.  David Axlerod and Totally Irrational Political Malcontent are spot on.  Conservatives=Self-Saboteurs

411 How YOU doin'?

I am doin' just fine, you shoe-lace whisperer, you! Where did you run off to? Out sampling female essences and auras, I daresay?

412 Dear Seattle Morons,

Seattle Tea Party Patriots is having it's November meeting at the Fremont (yeah, Fremont, home of the Lenin statue and the godless naked pagan summer solstice festival) public library @ 6:00 PM

731 N. 35th St.
Seattle, WA 98103

Please attend and show those Fremont Hippies we're not afraid of them!

413 I am doin' just fine, you shoe-lace whisperer, you! Where did you run off to? Out sampling female essences and auras, I daresay?

Posted by: MissTammy at November 14, 2011 12:55 AM (3inkD)

I wish!  Nah, just had to go get ready for work.

414 424 Sadly, conservatives are repeating the same mistakes from 2008.  We are fucked for the second time in 8 years.  David Axlerod and Totally Irrational Political Malcontent are spot on.  Conservatives=Self-Saboteurs

Posted by: Kiana at November 14, 2011 12:54 AM (2rHTH)

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So, are you ready for something new?  Cuz I have it, and I guarantee you it is different than anything else that is out there.  Unfortunately, it will take a while and people will actually have to put in an effort.

415 naked pagan summer solstice festival

You say this like it's a bad thing...

416 430 naked pagan summer solstice festival

You say this like it's a bad thing...

Posted by: Anya Herrick, Celebrator of Solstice at November 14, 2011 12:59 AM (3inkD)

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If the sun actually sets, it ain't solstice.  Just sayin'.

417 Have you seen Seattle's naked pagans? 

418 You know, jc, I don't think I could handle that no-nighttime summer y'all have up there. 2 hours of weak sunlight every day on the winter is more my style.

419 LOL, Greg, I can about imagine.

420 Hi, Greg in Seattle!  Long time no see!  If I lived near Seattle, I'd be there! 

421 @422, Okay, I don't feel so bad, then. I'll keep the songs in my youtube favorite thingee, and give a fresh listen now and then

422 Hi Theresa, I've been an absent Moron....  but still a Moron

423 jc at November 14, 2011 12:58 AM (ufJKx)

New movement?  Conservatives just need to unite behind the most conservative, electable candidate instead of splintering into a thousand different factions.

424 Hey morons. Just on my lunch break. Everyone having fun?

425 398 Indochino.com

I've seen their site before, and heard good reviews.  My only issue is that the slim stuff doesn't look as good on me.  I don't have the body for it.

Posted by: Alex at November 14, 2011 12:27 AM (e/SJC)

I've also heard good reviews.....from people substantially less chunky than myself.

426 433 You know, jc, I don't think I could handle that no-nighttime summer y'all have up there. 2 hours of weak sunlight every day on the winter is more my style.

Posted by: Anya Herrick, Celebrator of Solstice at November 14, 2011 01:03 AM (3inkD)

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yes and no.  without light people can get pretty depressed.  the dark also overlies the holidays, so we have to be careful about that.

427 Hey, Joffen!

428 Hey Anya how ya been? Still learning to read, I see. Keep it up! Break that Ginger handicapp you have! I keed of course

429 without light people can get pretty depressed

My dirty Scandi/black Celtic heart kinda digs the cold and dark, though. I feel much better in the winter. The heat of summer about does me in.

430 Joffen!!!!  I should have read up about this lady before I allowed berserker to name me!

Well, I did a little, and it said she liked to have breakfast for two hours every morning, then go walk in the garden, which frankly describes my Dream Life to a T, LOL!

What else should I know?

431 440 jc at November 14, 2011 12:58 AM (ufJKx)

New movement?  Conservatives just need to unite behind the most conservative, electable candidate instead of splintering into a thousand different factions.

Posted by: Kiana at November 14, 2011 01:08 AM (2rHTH)

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Don't worry, I am ABO.  Beyond that: Sorry.  Not buying it.  This blog is a constant droning of people sitting on their asses bitching because every one of our candidates isn't perfect.  We are completely accepting our situation while pretending we won't.

432 About 2/3 of our dishes are stamped with "from oven to table to dishwasher", so I tried baking a beef pinwheel on a random dish. It shattered. I ate the beef, anyway, spitting out little bits that seemed sandy.

1. Which dishes can survive thermal stress?
2. When and how will I know that I ate glass slivers?

433 Speaking of movements I've had three today.

434 1. Which dishes can survive thermal stress?
2. When and how will I know that I ate glass slivers?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 14, 2011 01:20 AM (kaalw)

1) get corningware you will never be sorry

2) stomach pain

435 We can make cases for our preferred candidate and argue back and forth which candidate we prefer. I don't agree with the ABO creed. The whole point of primaries is to debate and argue for one or another candidate. I'm a Perry guy big time. Now of we can just figure out a way to get Huntsman, Paul and Bachmann out that will be great. --- How much glass did eat Cthlulu?

436 cthulu, a little bit of glass won't hurt you, I don't think.

 I have no idea what sorts of things won't break...I have had Pyrex break on me, and the last time I got actually, seriously mad at Thor, I broke all his dishes, which were Corelle, and supposedly shatterproof.

437 Some people know Kiana as an Alaskan Native word.  It is also a village.

In some translations the word is used as a "meeting place."

438 Robert, Robert, Robert......

439 Robert, Robert, Robert......

Posted by: Anya Herrick, Celebrator of Solstice at November 14, 2011 01:29 AM (3inkD)

It's so rare that I get a woman calling my name over and over again.  I takes what I gets.

440 If I had a sex change, could I marry myself?

441 449  When and how will I know that I ate glass slivers?

Posted by: cthulhu at November 14, 2011 01:20 AM (kaalw)

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If you are not kidding, I suggest you do something to boost fiber to encapsulate the glass.  Citracel or Metamusil or something like that.  Diverticulitis can make people miserable.

442 Did anyone go to Church? Why is it so boring?

443 454  Posted by: jc at November 14, 2011 01:28 AM (ufJKx)

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jeez I must be feeling bold.

444 Robert, methinks thou doest protest too much. I bet you have a different lady every night. Three movements in one day, you all but admitted such.

I am on to your tricks, now.

445 If you've got multiple personality disorder and got a sex change operation could you marry all of you at the same time? A monopolygamous homosexual marriage.

446 jc at November 14, 2011 01:19 AM (ufJKx)

My standard has always been to pick the candidate that can best unite fiscal, social, and defense conservatives.  We can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. 

447 We can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. 

Posted by: Kiana at November 14, 2011 01:36 AM (2rHTH)

indeed. tho Romney scares me with his empty slickness.

448 Seriously, I wouldn't have swallowed if I thought I was going to die. I'm just backstopping it.

449 I am on to your tricks, now.

Posted by: Anya Herrick, Wearer of Purple Finery at November 14, 2011 01:34 AM (3inkD)

My secrets shall die with me!

*Takes vow of silence*

450 452 We can make cases for our preferred candidate and argue back and forth which candidate we prefer. I don't agree with the ABO creed. The whole point of primaries is to debate and argue for one or another candidate. I'm a Perry guy big time.
Posted by: Joffen at November 14, 2011 01:26 AM (T2cNC)

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I am actually hoping for more than any of our present candidates can do.  I am also a realist and I place no blame on them.  Our country got in this mess because our voters made it so.  Getting out of this mess will require the same.  It is not about the candidates.  It's about us.  We need to step up our game.  If we do, the candidates will adapt to the new reality.

451 Romney is my least favorite ( aside from Huntsman) but if he wins, I am holding my nose and hoping that he was just playing a very deep game in Massachusetts.

I can't imagine a Mormon being all that Liberal down deep, I just can't. Maybe he just did what he had to do to in MA; it's pretty well understood that he just moved there and ran for Gov to start his Presidential bid.

452 If you've got multiple personality disorder and got a sex change operation could you marry all of you at the same time? A monopolygamous homosexual marriage.

Posted by: Joffen at November 14, 2011 01:35 AM (T2cNC)

I may be schizophrenic, but at least I have each other.

453 "My standard has always been to pick the candidate that can best unite fiscal, social, and defense conservatives.  We can't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. 

Posted by: Kiana at November 14, 2011 01:36 AM (2rHTH)"

That sounds smart.

"I don't agree with the ABO creed."

It makes no sense.  There are reasons Obama is a poor president.  There are policies he has wrong.  Those who say ABO are saying that Obama is particularly wrong.  They are trying to say something is really deeply wrong with Obama's path.  Yet... they are also saying that path is not really so bad, so long as the person putting us on that path is not Obama.

It's like they would rather the GOP run the nation off the cliff.

At this point, simply holding steady on status quo spending levels is probably Obama's post 2012 plan.  I doubt he could get away with much more.  That's also the plan of the pandering RINO type.

We're in serious trouble, and the only solution is a real fight that most politicians do not have the stomach for.  I think Newt and Perry have the stomach, and I think Perry has the experience of leading a large government well.  I also think most of the criticisms of Perry (other than those noting he sucks in the debates) are falsehoods.  Either folks are ignorant, or they are trying to convince themselves, probably due to one of the two cults of personality in the GOP right now, one being the Romney cult which is kinda in denial about what they are.  They think Romney is fabulously brilliant, despite his record of failure.  They care way too much about how much he looks like a presidential politician, oblivious to what this really says about the man and his actual chances.

I don't mean to judge, though.  Beating Obama is important.  But it's not personal.  I don't hate Obama.  I just think his policies are wrong and his leadership has been poor in many instances.

I think had Romney win the 2008 election, we would have a very, very similar world today to what we really got.  I am for A.B.L. (anyone but liberal).  It's time for leaders who don't think government is the solution, but realize they need to get out of the way.

454 gushie at November 14, 2011 01:37 AM (QNeKQ)

Romney is not a fiscal conservative.  I wonder how much of the base will stay home if he is the nominee.  I have moderate Republican friends who are not thrilled about voting for him.  Some even say McCain has a better record as a fiscal conservative. 

455 Truman, I don't mean to be scary.

 It really was a logic bubble that popped off of my head when I was discussing another matter entirely (but not quite,obviously).

I didn't know what to make of it.

Thought I'd put it out there for the Morons to hash over.

More importantly!!!

Am I a giant douche?

Yesterday, I was in a residential neighborhood, doin' my jerb, and noticed that the right front tire car I had parked on a side street  was FLAT.

Meh!  But no problem really, I know how to change a flat!

I ended up calling the Motor Club because despite my having the tools and experience to change a simple flat tire....

I could NOT get the vinyl(?)  F*$^&*# , COVER off of the spare tire that's been riding on the back of my RAV4 for almost a decade.

So, anyway, I finally admitted defeat and called the Motor Club and sat there for 45 min. while everybody in the neighborhood, it seems, walked their dogs or went on bike-rides and laughed at me for not knowing how to change a tire.

Grrr!

Guy shows up with a Tow-Truck, wrestles with the cover (cords on his neck bulging) for 15 min. until he wins and says that since the Motor Club is paying him he might as well just change the tire for me also.

Well...

Fuck, Yeah!

I mean, I CAN change a flat tire (assuming I have reasonable access to the spare) but, who wants to?

I hate getting dirty and I loathe lifting things, so "Go for it!"

Turns out the "spare" tire is flattish.

I was thinking to get that tire put on my vehicle and limp around to the Circle-K I knew to be just 3 streets away.

Nope.  Mike would have none of it.

He put my lonely spare tire on the back of his giant rig and we maneuvered to the Circle-K and filled it up to "35lbs. Pressure Just in case it gets cold in the morning"  Uhm, Okay?.

So, long story short.

If I had had my druthers, I would have handled this myself, just on principal.

Had to involve the Motor Club when I couldn't physically get to the fucking spare tire!

Tow-Truck Mike was extra cool.

I assume he gets paid well to be on call for this sort of bullshit by his company and his company finds it worthwhile to have my Motor Club run him ragged with refferals.

I tipped him $5.

How much of a douche, am I?

I don't rightly know what sort of bill I'm going to receive for this service.  It might be nothing or it might be $300.  I had no other choice.  I couldn't take care of the problem on my own, at that time, at that place.

Any Morons here ever been a Tow-Truck driver?

I totally was not expecting to have a flat tire that day and I greatly appreciate all of the help, but honestly $5 was all I had in my wallet for a tip.

456 So I spent a good chunk of today and yesterday watching WW2 in HD. I have watched it before, but Fantastic again. What is really pissing me of (besides the usual SCoamFness), this administration doesn't want a plaque of the FDR's (not a fan) speech that he gave on D-Day. It's an amazingly inspirational speech on a day when thousands and thousands of our guys died. Fucking SCoamF. Never miss a chance to piss on this country and it's institutions. I'm seeing fucking red.

457 *Takes vow of silence*

Nyet, nyet! I will never speak of them again, those secrets....but pray thee sir, no silence from you.

( I got a fine silver dagger and I know how to use it, so don't argue with me)

458 "I am holding my nose and hoping that he was just playing a very deep game in Massachusetts."

How cool that would be, but he chose MA over Utah to begin a career in politics.  He decided to be the liberal Republican, which is kinda the family business.

BTW, Huntsman is bad, but he's better than Romney for sure.  At least Huntsman was a pretty successful governor with a more conservative record than Romney.  Huntsman sucks, sure, but aside from his worshiping Obama, he's better than Romney in any way I'm aware of.

But that dope has no chance.  I have no idea why Romney is viable and Huntsman isn't.  I guess one is simply the better behind the scenes politician. 

I see Romney and see a guy who pathetically practiced running for president for  many years, while ducking out of every single policy debate that actually needed leadership.  I wonder if Romney has a darkly dim view of America's ability to be conned like this.

459 I could support Obama.......

.....if an actual patriot stood behind him with a cocked, loaded .45 socketed in the base of his skull for every second of his term.

Otherwise, it's ABO.

460 ( I got a fine silver dagger and I know how to use it, so don't argue with me)

Posted by: Anya Herrick, Wearer of Purple Finery at November 14, 2011 01:46 AM (3inkD)

Well I can't argue I took a vow of...dammit!

461 he chose MA over Utah to begin a career in politics

Yes, for sure, it's a much bigger stage. Like Hillary moving to New York to be a Senator, you know?

I agree with everything you say, BTW. But I'd vote for the reanimated corpse of Osama bin Laden before I'd vote for Obama, and staying home is almost as bad.

We're screwed. It's just a matter of staunching the flow til the TEA Party gets going stronger.

462 I'd vote for Obama over Ron Paul, just because I think Paul could trigger enormous geopolitical disasters.

I'd vote for Obama over Pelosi or Rangel or Conyers.

It's basically 100% likely I will be voting against Obama, of course.  None of the GOP frontrunners are as bad as he is.

But I'm not ABO.  I'm opposed to liberal policies such as Romneycare and gun control and excessive spending and pandering on entitlements.  It's not some personal beef I have with Obama.  I don't care if he's an asshole or a really nice guy who happens to make terrible decisions.

463 Resistance is futile, Robert.

464 Dustin: Excellent points. This is the only blog I read where I comment as well, so I haven't had the chance to talk with HotAir or RedState readers, but reading the comments I can't find anyone who can make a strong case for Romney. Whenever Romney fans try, well, Perry's got them beat every damn time. Looks like break is over. Catch y'all later!

465 467  I don't mean to judge, though.  Beating Obama is important.  But it's not personal.  I don't hate Obama.  I just think his policies are wrong and his leadership has been poor in many instances.

Posted by: Dustin at November 14, 2011 01:44 AM (rQ/Ue)

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I think Obama is running a crime syndicate, or he is the puppet of a crime syndicate.  I have hopes that his replacement will not be so.  I also think the left is no more than a coalition of parasites that would happily return to slavery.  While they will do everything they can to change the subject, they always choose the policy closest to slavery.

I am ABO, and I do not apologize for that.  I know it is only a meager hope, but it is the hope I have.

I know what we need to do, and none of these people can do it.  I accept that, too.  I hope for more, but it is not within the mold everyone is presently locked into.

466 "We're screwed. It's just a matter of staunching the flow til the TEA Party gets going stronger.

Posted by: Anya Herrick, Wearer of Purple Finery at November 14, 2011 01:52 AM (3inkD)"

That's what burns me up.

Romney really is a bit of a repudiation of the TEA party's relevance.  Any of the other contenders wouldn't be.

That said, it's not over yet.  I shouldn't sound so hopeless about this.  There's plenty of time for this to turn around.

467
How much of a douche, am I?

I don't rightly know what sort of bill I'm going to receive for this service.  It might be nothing or it might be $300.  I had no other choice.  I couldn't take care of the problem on my own, at that time, at that place.

Any Morons here ever been a Tow-Truck driver?

I totally was not expecting to have a flat tire that day and I greatly appreciate all of the help, but honestly $5 was all I had in my wallet for a tip.

Posted by: Deety at November 14, 2011 01:46 AM (SINNR)

you are not a douche at all.

you are a tidy person who was smart enough to belong to the motor club.

Mike was a prince. you PROVED you arent a douche cuz you tipped him.

and you have the most wicked awesome hash ever.

468 Dustin, I think there are worse Dems than Obama for sure. But as crazy as Paul is, I'd still vote for him over Obama. I'd rather have an isolationist in office than someone who is obviously pandering to the Islamisist faction, if nothing else out of a head in the sand mentality.

I am a Perrywinkle, myself, but honestly, none of them are staunchly Conservative in every way, so I don't see what option there is other than the shoot-and-holler-shit one.

469 Deety, look at it this way...you gave Mike every thing you had at the time. Be glad you had the 5 bucks! He could buy lunch with that.

470 Dustin at November 14, 2011 01:57 AM (rQ/Ue)

I have been the in Perry camp since he announced.  He had a good debate performance on Sat, so don't lose faith just yet.  He can unite all factions in the Republican base, without question.  We are in such a dire situation that tinkering around the edges won't cut it anymore.  This cycle, we need someone with political courage. 

471 I am calling it a night, y'all....

Dustin, don't despair. Keep up the good fight, (your points are spot on!) but don't lose your faith. We can DO this!!!!!!!!

Sleep sweet, everyone!

472 Night MissT

473 My main concern about Romney is that if he gets elected, he proceeds to do everything Obama would have done. Then, when disaster ensues, the GOP gets the blame and the chances of an actual conservative getting elected thereafter are even more remote.

Given the choice between a blatant RINO and Obama, it might be better to have Obama and plan for it all to burn down and need to be rebuilt. The trick is make sure the statists are stuck inside during the metaphorical fire. The destruction only accomplishes something if they are suppressed for a good long while.

474 Good night Miss Tammy!

475 You people are so cute. Even I'm not kidding myself that I'm still in this thing.

476 Given the choice between a blatant RINO and Obama, it might be better to have Obama and plan for it all to burn down and need to be rebuilt. The trick is make sure the statists are stuck inside during the metaphorical fire. The destruction only accomplishes something if they are suppressed for a good long while.

Posted by: epobirs at November 14, 2011 02:24 AM (kcfmt)

youre assuming we can control how bad things get when events unfold.

477 woops, too late for the ont..again

478 Obama is a suicide bomber on his run to destroy the US, he is blocking every last fucking thing that could save us, and escalating everything that will destroy us. He didn't grow up here, has no fucking clue what that experience is even about. He floats over from indonesia as an already developed anti american marxist. Other than stalin, pol pot, or chairman fucking Mao, there is nobody on the face of this planet that would be worse. I would vote for fucking roadkill over obama.

479 The menfolk are not through playing yet, so much for sleep.

Anyone still around but belsatff jackets?

480 Im here going to get lunch, but will brb

481 He didn't grow up here, has no fucking clue what that experience is even about.

Thank you. I have said this all along; he has no true feeling for America, other than how he can turn it in to something else. He was raised by communist sympathizers and foreigners, then got in with a bunch of Black Liberation Theologists.

Roadkill over Obama works for me.....

482 Hey, Zakn, hey, Bers

483 youre assuming we can control how bad things get when events unfold. Posted by: gushie at November 14, 2011 02:25 AM (QNeKQ) Everyone assumes that, even though it has never worked that way. Kind of like "the right's" version of commies who never learn from their failures.

484 And I have killed another one.

But all alone or not, I am still going to say that that clip of Chris Rock saying how he thought Obama was gonna go all gansta in his 2nd term gave me the stone cold chills. It's my biggest fear.

We cannot let that happen. He'll  be dangerous enough in the weeks after he loses re-election.

485 Exactly, Dark Lord. Like the idiots in Congress who always, always get played by the Dems.

It's like they've never seen Lucy pull that football away. Unfreaking believable how stupid they are, time after time.

486 #490

No, I'm not. But I know which side owns most of the guns and tends more towards certain skill sets.

My only assumption is that if there is no way to restore control, the next best thing is crash the vehicle in a way that favors some preference. Barring some really dramatic change in the electorate, the train is going off the rails. Increasingly, the sole options are not to prevent the crash but how best to walk away and hope to build another train sooner than later.

We are in completely unknown territory here. The people who think they command the big picture are as much the problem as anything. They are heart of big government that makes mistakes on a far greater scale than any individual or small group can hope to equal.

487 We cannot let that happen. He'll  be dangerous enough in the weeks after he loses re-election.

Posted by: Anya Herrick, Distracter of Guards at November 14, 2011 03:01 AM (3inkD)

i agree. i had a cold feeling in the pit of my stomach

488 Newt is better than Romney.

People here focus on so much superficial bullshit.

The main issue is challgening the Gramscian narrative.

Newt has been challenging it in the debates (see Saturday nights "rule of law" question as an example); Romney has been going with the flow.

Funk dat - you don't save America by not challenging the narrative.

Romney = reaarranging chairs on the Titanic. 

People here comically miss the big picture time and time again - it's the narrative that's killing America.

489 Oh my God, that "11 sounds kids have never heard" makes me feel really, really old.

490 The people who think they command the big picture are as much the problem as anything

I think the problem is threefold; certainly the Big Government types are a problem, like you say, but I also think jc is dead right about the media being complete tools of the Left. That is scary beyond belief, too.

And honestly, the average person on the street is also to blame. We have become a nation of whiners and bleeding hearts, and our government reflects that.

I don't understand how they can all watch Europe imploding, yet still push us down the Socialist path.

491 JB, I'd vote for Newt, no problem. I do think he's the only one whose shown that he'll absolutely push back on the Left.

Perry has some fire in his belly, too, but Newt has been the most in-their-face guy, no doubt. And God knows we need that.

492 Anya,

That's kind of the weird self-destructive thing about the conservative grassroots - here's one guy - one guy -- with both the intellectual capacity and the willingness to get in the left's faces, and he gets attacked by a bunch of malcontent anklebiters.

And they complain that it's all an act.

Who gives a shit? Nobody else will do what he's doing, and without it we're sunk: conservatively, competently managed and administered right off the cliff, albeit slower.

493 I am left-handed. My mother's mother was left-handed, my son is absolutely left-handed. We don't trust right-handers because they seem so sure of themselves and secure. I hate the fact that I share this affliction with the SCFOAMF.

494 504 The people who think they command the big picture are as much the problem as anything

I think the problem is threefold; certainly the Big Government types are a problem, like you say, but I also think jc is dead right about the media being complete tools of the Left. That is scary beyond belief, too.

And honestly, the average person on the street is also to blame. We have become a nation of whiners and bleeding hearts, and our government reflects that.

I don't understand how they can all watch Europe imploding, yet still push us down the Socialist path.

Posted by: Anya Herrick, Distracter of Guards at November 14, 2011 03:17 AM (3inkD)

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502 Newt is better than Romney.

People here focus on so much superficial bullshit.

The main issue is challgening the Gramscian narrative.

Newt has been challenging it in the debates (see Saturday nights "rule of law" question as an example); Romney has been going with the flow.

Funk dat - you don't save America by not challenging the narrative.

Romney = reaarranging chairs on the Titanic. 

People here comically miss the big picture time and time again - it's the narrative that's killing America.

Posted by: JB at November 14, 2011 03:13 AM (7T+Mz)

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and there it is.  We have big changes to make in the scenery around us, and small changes to make in the actual reality of what we do.  We are drowning in our own bullshit -- for the sake of the bullshit -- and nothing but the bullshit.

It matters what is correct.  It matters what is real in the universe.  But in our system all that matters is the roadshow and the bullshit.  We guess about everything and rush into solutions without understanding the problems.  And when that doesn't work we fling some more bullshit.

Above all other things we have to change our willingness to accept bullshit.  We need to start calling a spade a fucking shovel and refuse to accept anything less.

495 Darn sock, anyway...JB, I think the malcontents might rally around Newt before Romney, but it's hard to say.....

496 We need to start calling a spade a fucking shovel and refuse to accept anything less.

Good luck with that.

497 510 We need to start calling a spade a fucking shovel and refuse to accept anything less.

Good luck with that.

Posted by: Zimriel at November 14, 2011 03:31 AM (6GvAC)

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We only have to reach one person at a time.  Pop culture is a powerful thing.  We can take it over just as well as anyone else can.  Have a little faith.

498 I do feel old. My father-in-law still uses the "flash cubes'. Where he's found them I do not know. I remember being very young, and we were hooked-up to the "party line" next door. Many, many embarrassing moments.

499 I think Newt really wants to push the progressive movement into the sea. That alone is good enough for me.

500 I think we can start by not  being afraid to speak out in day-to-day life. I have never been shy about saying what I feel (y'all are shocked, I know! ) but a lot of people are, and we need to make sure other like-minded people know they aren't alone.

501 I have had Pyrex break on me, and the last time I got actually, seriously mad at Thor, I broke all his dishes, which were Corelle, and supposedly shatterproof. Posted by: Anya Herrick

I think Pyrex changed their formula recently (last 20 years or so.) Chemjeff would know the details, I'm sure. No longer borosilicate or something.

Try thrift stores in older towns or ebay.

502 78 Top ten reasons Perry is no longer my guy:

He was never my guy for national office. He's also (like Jindal) run creationist cant through the school system. I admit that I care a little less about that now than I did before, but it's still a strike against him.

Pawlenty, on the other hand, I actively hated because of his creationist-pandering. I think this is because I had lower expectations of Perry - I thought Perry was a bit of a dullard, so I assumed that he actually believed in this tripe. Pawlenty on the other hand triggered my bullshit meter. If there's anything I hate more than a creationist, it's a panderer to creationists.

503 >>Deety, look at it this way...you gave Mike every thing you had at the time. Be glad you had the 5 bucks! He could buy lunch with that.<< Hrm... Except for the stupid arm tatoos, I might have bought him dinner! IYNWIMAITYD. He mentioned that he had been on call overnight for "6 major wrecks, and then I looked stupid when he asked where my spare tire might be, so's he could put it on to the right front hoof of my jacked up baby... Uhhm, "What are you asking?" "Where is your spare tire? Is it on the undercarriage?" "What?" "You know, where is the spare tire located on your vehicle? Either it's in the trunk or on the undercarriage." "Uhm, it's right under your hand. You know, where you just 15 minuites ago flipped off the cover and just 3 minutes ago asked me about the special key, so you could remove it?" "Oh, yeah! Jesus! Sorry! I worked all last night. I... Sorry! That was dumb!" No Problem... Be Safe, Tow-truck Guy.....

504 Also, manual or electric typewriters will become keepsakes. For one thing, it is private. Every single stroke on your key-board can be analysed along with your cell-phone pings. There is no way getting around it, only if you take the battery out of your cell-phone completely. That's what my daughter had to do with an ex-boyfriend, stalker.

505 513 I think Newt really wants to push the progressive movement into the sea. That alone is good enough for me.

Posted by: Berserker at November 14, 2011 03:37 AM (FMbng)

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Me, too.  The rest of them just eat the corporate media shit and pretend it tastes good. 

506 Bers, good enough for me, too.

Zim, this is going to sound snotty, and I hope you realize  I don't mean it to, but honestly, with everything at stake here, someone else's belief in creationism is gonna be the driving force behind your vote??

I am opposed to abortion and the death penalty, but those issues sure as hell aren't going to stop me from voting for a candidate who is willing to push back on these marxist pukes who are hellbent on destroying the country.

507 508   . . . and there it is.  We have big changes to make in the scenery around us, and small changes to make in the actual reality of what we do.  We are drowning in our own bullshit -- for the sake of the bullshit -- and nothing but the bullshit.

It matters what is correct.  It matters what is real in the universe.  But in our system all that matters is the roadshow and the bullshit.  We guess about everything and rush into solutions without understanding the problems.  And when that doesn't work we fling some more bullshit.

Above all other things we have to change our willingness to accept bullshit.  We need to start calling a spade a fucking shovel and refuse to accept anything less.

Posted by: jc


You'll probably gak at my endorsement but I completely agree with what you've said here.  If this is related to the work you mentioned awhile back, then you must finish and get it published.  We need it out there.

508 I usually say it as I see it. Condi Rice was heading to france back when the other douche tool was their leader, Jock shitrock or something, and I was on a site and a few libs were saying crap about what she should be doing, basically that she should kiss his ass. I said I hope she puts 2 bullets in him and then squats over his dead body and pisses on his dead body. The libs went ballistic. Fuck'em. I have no leftist friends so usually everybody I hang with see eye to eye. I want a madmen in the oval office, one that will take a wrecking ball to all thats bad. I want a dude that will plant a stick of dynamite into the glove box when his pos car don't start and walk away giggling.

509 #502

The American public has already been well trained by the MBM to detest Newt Gingrich. A huge number of fence straddlers would stupidly leap into Obamaland if Gingrich were the candidate. Seriously damaged goods.

This is a big part of the problem. Anybody the left doesn't think sufficiently RINO will get the full-court press from Jon Stewart and his ilk. Far too much of the electorate forms their opinion from SNL and the Daily Show. (Yet another reason I want the voting age raised to 25 or, even better, 30.)

#504

Because they think the rules don't apply. Very few people who lived through the Great Depression as adults are still around or capable of discussing it. (My 82-year-old mother was shocked by some of the things she learned from Amity Schlaes book. And she was there. ) Perhaps if America were turned into a giant classroom and everyone was required to read 'The Forgotten Man. There will be a test: the rest of your life and that of your children for generations to come.

We're replaying the Madoff Scam on the national level. Madoff offered ROI that should have made any rational person suspicious. And remember, these were generally very successful people. Almost certainly of above average intelligence to have the money to invest in the first place. The scam relied on these people believing they were special and being invited into an exclusive club just for the likes of them. That they were somehow entitled to earn well in excess of the single digit returns earned by the common folk.

The difference here is that the status of US citizen is now being held up as membership in a special club not subject to the gravity drawing the Europeans in a death spiral towards very rough terrain. Thus we have the public sector unions creating a situation guaranteed to bring ruin. But they either believe in a fantasy that will avert the debts coming due or simply don't care.

Nihilism could explain much as well. My generation (tail-end Boomer, depending on how you measure) spent our entire youths and into middle-age, for the oldest of the Boomer set, being told to fear nuclear annihilation at any moment. For a very large part of us it wasn't if but when. I wonder if this had an ongoing effect on our psyches that left us twisted in a way not known to Westerners since the Black Death.

Perhaps it's what P.J. O'Rourke suggested:  We cannot deal with serious issues because we aren't serious people. We boomer fought cultural wars for our right not to be serious people. So now we can watch 'Blazing Saddles' uncensored on basic cable but was there a cost?

510 514 I think we can start by not  being afraid to speak out in day-to-day life. I have never been shy about saying what I feel (y'all are shocked, I know! ) but a lot of people are, and we need to make sure other like-minded people know they aren't alone.

Posted by: MissTammy at November 14, 2011 03:38 AM (3inkD)

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Exactly.  And we can follow that up by actually being correct.  Not right, not moral, not conservative, or any of that other stuff that the left knows how to attack.  Just correct.

511 At this point I'll vote for whoever has fight in him - or her - and failing that, I'll just sit it out.

Not participating in an electoral sham is itself a vote. It's a withdrawal of legitimacy for this political system. It tells Obama in his second term that, should there be a military mutiny or a secession - that we might not be in the streets supporting his crackdown. General De la Rey, De la Rey . . .

As for my comment about creationism; obviously I'm not for it, but I would vote for a creationist - or better, "anti - Darwinist" - who could articulate a programme for American renewal. I will not vote for a dimwit or a panderer, who goes this way because he or she thinks it will get him votes.

512

http://tinyurl.com/77mw4tr

_{(Reuters) - Germany's Interior Minister warned on Sunday of a} "new form of far-right terrorism" _{as details emerged of a grotesque film left by members of a neo-Nazi cell in eastern Germany, in which they claimed the murder of nine immigrants between 2000 and 2006.
Prosecutors said on Sunday that police had arrested a suspected accomplice of the group, which referred to itself in the film as the} "Nationalist Socialist Underground," _{and which is also thought to be behind the murder of a policewoman in 2007 and a bomb attack on a Turkish area of Cologne in 2004.}

So what makes the National Socialist Underground right wing? Or far-right wing? You get so into personal liberty you become a... national... socialist...

 

513 #507

US Presidents are disproportionately left-handed.

Hey, both Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin are left handed. (They secretly claimed the Moon for us. Wait for the signal.)

514 Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding ding ding Ding Ding Ding!

The stupidest person on the internet, who can write a complete sentence, has now been located. Re: the recent foreign policy debate and Cain simply saying over and over he'd hire the best advisers:

I see this as a strength for Cain. No one knows all the answers. ThatÂ’s why presidents have cabinets. If they knew what to do in all situations they wouldnÂ’t need anyone elseÂ’s advice.

Rose on November 13, 2011 at 10:21 PM

515 Well, I think I'm a tail-end Boomer, too...1963....and I am generally not a very serious minded person at all, but I'll tell you one thing...when faced with the threat of everything I love being completely destroyed by a bunch of god damned communist sons of bitches, my inclination is to fight with every last breath.

I guess it's the redneck in me, but I will not back down. I got up in a few faces at some ObamaCare rallies when things were getting rolling in 2009.

I have no problem whatsoever telling people the effing emperor is nekkid as a jaybird.

516 I don;t care if they run a dude with a bundle of feathers in his ass and a latex glove on his head, he's getting my vote over obama. We can't survive another 4 years with him.

517 521 You'll probably gak at my endorsement but I completely agree with what you've said here.  If this is related to the work you mentioned awhile back, then you must finish and get it published.  We need it out there.

Posted by: viking at November 14, 2011 03:46 AM (OZymZ)

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Thanks.  It is part of my work.  Here's an example of how far down toward our root assumptions I am trying to take the discussion:

"There are 5 ways to acquire wealth:
Type 1 – can be defined as something that only one human could do with enough time  even if there were no other humans at all.  Examples:  hunting, gathering, farming, mining, logging, brick making, milling, smelting, etc. -- ie. actually gathering or creating items of wealth where none existed before.  Type 1 wealth acquisition is the only one that is truly wealth creation, and it is the only one that is fully independent.  That is, Type 1 wealth creation does not depend on any of the other four ways to acquire wealth.

All of the following forms of wealth acquisition require Type 1.  In a sense, Type 1 is wealth creation, and the other four types are wealth distribution.

Type 2 – Cooperate with others.  This form of wealth acquisition is mostly just the process of making other people happy.  Type 2 wealth acquisition overlaps extensively with Type 1.  For example, a person could make boots for miners, loggers, and farmers.  Making boots is a form of Type 1 wealth creation, but it is also a form of making other people happy.

Type 3 – Inherit wealth from others – not just your rich uncle bob, also includes lots of stuff you might not think about, such as living in any city older than you -- where some taxpayer funded the sidewalk you use, and you got it for free.

4. charity.
5. steal it, in all forms including slavery, over-taxation, con games, protection rackets, fraud, armed robbery, etc.

Note that No.s 2, 3, 4, & 5 require someone to do No. 1 before they are even possible."

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Now, I truly think we have been swimming in our own bullshit for so long that what is written above will actually be news to some people.

Further, I think one of the reasons we no longer can even talk to the left is so many of them have been brainwashed.  They actually think that Type 1 wealth is really stealing, that charity is really an entitlement, and that stealing is really cooperating.  They are not correct, and we need to say so -- to their faces -- incessantly and in as condescending of a manner as needed to let them know that we will no longer let them steal from us.

Example: Me talking to OWS -- You don't like income inequality, then go make someone happy, and you will have wealth.  Don't want to make someone else happy? -- then go make it yourself from scratch.  Don't want to work that hard?--then go fuck yourself.  You can make it, you care earn it, you can take what charity we offer, but are not going to let you steal it.

518 In other words, MY job is cancel out some progressive scumbag's vote. Period.

519 I don;t care if they run a dude with a bundle of feathers in his ass and a latex glove on his head

OMG, I am howling over here!!!!!!!!!! 



Hi, viking!

520 Looks like all the graveyard shift is here.

521 On the creationism thing, I thought Palin had a good answer. It should be OK to discuss it in some classes but Biology wasn't it.

There are certain subjects I just don't discuss with people I highly respect. They're entirely rational folks and some of them I'd gladly have in high office. I also know there are beliefs they've taken to heart because it gets them through life. The test for me is whether they remain rational in situations where a policy decision is needed and remaining true to the beliefs will clash with the rights of many.

Is there anyone here who doesn't agree that John Ashcroft was a vastly better Attorney Gerneral than Eric Holder or Janet Reno? Yet, when he was appointed, the left was up in arms that he would perform as a crazed theocrat. But it became plain that he upheld the law, whether it was to his liking or not, because that was the job he'd agreed to perform.

At this point I might take a Scientologist seriously as a candidate if they were otherwise conservative and well able to articulate why they were and why this was best for the nation. This is rather improbable but the dire future we face requires me to be open to the prospect.

522 I think one of the reasons we no longer can even talk to the left is so many of them have been brainwashed.

Sums it up in a nutshell, right here.

MY job is cancel out some progressive scumbag's vote. Period.

This needs to be tatooed on every Republican, Libertarian and Independent forearm in the nation. Also, bumper stickers, Tshirts and coffee mugs.

523 Looks like the Chinese have been dropping acid.

Or not.

I want to hear the crazies on Coast To Coast AM have fun with this.

524 "I think had Romney win the 2008 election, we would have a very, very similar world today to what we really got. "

Actually I think that it would be worse, if Romney (or McCain) had won 2008. There would probably not be bailouts or stimulus as Obama did them. This means the flashmobs would have started earlier. #ows would certainly have started earlier. And Romney - and McCain - would not have had the fortitude to face up against them. Oh, and that 2010 election? Democratic landslide, baby.

The reason to vote McCain was, frankly, the hope that Palin would be as powerful as Cheney. Romney probably would have tagged Jeb Bush as his running mate

525 532   Thanks.  It is part of my work.  Here's an example of how far down toward our root assumptions I am trying to take the discussion:

"There are 5 ways to acquire wealth:  Posted by: jc

I think the idea is great and would love to read more.

526

"Now, maybe that�s just a function of the candidates needing a club to beat Perry with and immigration being the best-available weapon."

I hope they beat the comphensive immigration bs right out of Perry and all the other wishy washy loons who want send us down river with the issue.  United States citizens have made things clear, our leaders need to concentrate on it's own.  Mexico's government needs to take responsibility for it's citizens and all will be well in the world.  Mexico brings in billions in oil dollars while shipping it's poor to our country, many living off our social system while working.

Send those here illegally back, if they have a court hearing determing residency we can perform the trial via video from Mexico.  Send the bill to the Mexican government or make the illegal pay for it.  Why pay for incarceration or monitoring them only to have them disapper.  No more anchor babies and if they are found to have stolen an identity, they are banned from the country permanently.

I will vote for Perry, but he needs to understand as President citizens and legal residents come first.

527 Hmmmmm, I no longer hear power chords coming from my house....the boys must be winding down.

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529 Darn poker players at the kitchen table are still going strong, though....sigh.

530 #532

That reminds me of my take on income inequality. Which is, nobody should care because in a free society the wealth of others doesn't make you poor.

Further, income inequality can only increase as human ingenuity creates more ways to be wealthy. OTOH, the baseline for poverty hasn't changed in the entire history of our species. Butt naked on the savannah. Assuming no gross deformities and general good health, that is as bad as it gets. Finding a good throwing rock to bring down a rabbit for some protein is a huge improvement in your status. You've gone from being flat broke to having a tool to improve your status. Yay.

Being born in a developed nation, even to the poorest parents, makes you substantially better off than almost every other human to date. If someone invents time travel should we expect the ACLU to round up the first 100,000 years worth of humans to complain about chronal wealth inequality?

Instead of comparing your life with that of a Fortune 500 CEO, compare your circumstances to the wealthiest people a century ago. What common parts of your life would be astonishing to them and simply unpurchasable for all the wealth of that era? Even more recently, say 50 years ago. Would you trade you life in 2011 for that of a multi-millionaire in 1961? For myself, I'm not sure an unlimited stream of hookers would compensate for all I'd be giving up.

When you consider all of the niceties anyone living in a developed country today enjoys, it seems to me that capitalism has done a far better job a spreading wealth around than any socialistic scheme. Because you cannot share in wealth when its creation is prevented.

531 540 532   Thanks.  It is part of my work.  Here's an example of how far down toward our root assumptions I am trying to take the discussion:

"There are 5 ways to acquire wealth:  Posted by: jc

I think the idea is great and would love to read more.
Posted by: viking at November 14, 2011 04:17 AM (OZymZ)
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Thanks for the encouragement. It really helps me keep trying.

I would love to tell you guys the best parts, but I think I can get it published and I don't want it stolen.  Here's a teaser -- it is just one of three that make up the backbone of my approach --

'Human time is channeled on earth based on:  (here comes just one of three)
a formula that is essentially chemical in nature -- a combination of atoms that form a molecule -- the atoms are opportunity, willingness, and ability -- together the molecule is OWA.  Note that if any of the atoms is missing, the molecule cannot form -- that is, it doesn't matter how much opportunity one has, or how much ability one has if they are simply unwilling.  And likewise for the other combinations of atoms -- it takes all three to form the molecule.'
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Now I will argue that this is a simple truth of the universe.  Yet, our government seems to be incapable of figuring it out.  We actually had a Department (remember Joe Califano?) called Health, Education, and Welfare -- three things that are all about ability.  An entire enterprise that completely, deliberately ignored Willingness & Opportunity.  We also have several kinds of Equal Opportunity programs -- again, entire organizations focused on just one atom while ignoring that we need the whole molecule.  So, the end result is that we don't really help people, we just play at helping people.  It makes for a great bureaucracy, but doesn't ever actually succeed at the job.  No one has ever proposed a Department of OWA, but if we did, we might actually help willing people when they need the help.
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That is one example of what I mean about when I say we can be correct, or we can drown in our own bullshit.

532 ""Hmmmmm, I no longer hear power chords coming from my house....the boys must be winding down.""



Power chords rule. lol

533 epobirs, I always say it's like thinking your own good health means you're making someone else sick. Their stupid social theories do not pass any kind of common sense test.

534 #539

Without the bailout the bloodshed happening now in the financial industry would have come a lot sooner and #OWS would be lacking for a rational to exist. There would be some other gathering of the young (and eternally adolescent cognitively) manipulated by the usual suspect but they'd need a different theme.

Especially if there were serious discussion of the education bubble, as there might have been without the parade of bad economic ideas from the Obamites.

535 548 epobirs, I always say it's like thinking your own good health means you're making someone else sick. Their stupid social theories do not pass any kind of common sense test.

Posted by: MissTammy at November 14, 2011 04:36 AM (3inkD)

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MissT, I intend to steal that.  That is the best way to present the picture I have ever seen.

536 LOL, Bers, I like 'em, too!!

537 jc, I am flattered!

538 Not sure why the rest of my post didn't show up, but jc, keep pushing to get published, I like what I'm hearing.

539 LOL, Bers, I like 'em, too!!


yeah I was blasting my ears out before too. I finished rebuilding the mechanisms on that old 1917 victrola thing. It works like a charm, but I had to listen to some of the super old records to test it. That old shit was really bad for the ears, so I had to fire up the guitar and move forward about 80 years, lol

540 The fact is the SCoaMF is the worst President I know of. Sure there are arguments for previous others, but they had not been able to use the accumulated powers that modern Presidents have assumed.
 
Saying that, even he has found that there are certain reality constraints upon him, like not being able to close Gitmo. He couldn't just yank us out of Iraq in 2010, though he is doing it a year later.
 
Certain degrees of freedom that he assumed he had just aren't there in the real world. It really must have come as a total shock to him. So then he spins these constraints as him making wise decisions.
 
The coming election is an existential one. Without him gone, we might not be able to exist as the United States of America. We could balkanize. Europe is facing this same situation, except their union is not as long, strong, and protected as ours.
 
Our creaky old system of Constitutional government is the oldest form of continuous government present in the world.
 
It causes me no shame whatsoever to stand up for it, and to call out those multiple turds trying their best to undermine it in the Congress, the SC, and the Presidency.
 
The ash-heap of history is littered with cases that failed the tests.

541 That old shit was really bad for the ears, so I had to fire up the guitar and move forward about 80 years

Hey, the newer shit is not exactly easy on the ears, as I'm sure you know! David has terrible tinitis (sp?) from his garage band days...in fact, I think he's waling away over there on the pre-CBS Twin Reverb that delivered the final blow....well, that and the fact that he always ended up playing next to the cymbal happy drummer...

542 Also, in such conversations, if the other person is equipped to understand the question, I ask where the software mines are. Don't you know that Microsoft chose Redmond after locking up the mineral rights? They hit a rich vein of Windowsium in the mid-80s and after a few rough years to hone the refining process, owned the market for goods made from Windowsium. The Officetonium strike they made in the adjoining mine only made them that much richer.

But hey, that lands is part of the U.S. so the wealth from it belongs to all of us!

But no, actually there are no software mines. It was all created out of thin air from the most personal, valuable, and intangible wealth of all: human thought. Microsoft could have stayed in New Mexico and kept working that BASIC mine. Or gone anywhere at all. Brains are portable. Treat them badly and they'll get up and walk away. But they are the source of all wealth, including the very concept of wealth. Without them, that guy on the savannah cannot look at a rock and figure out it can be used to made a rabbit hold still and be eaten.

543 553 Not sure why the rest of my post didn't show up, but jc, keep pushing to get published, I like what I'm hearing.

Posted by: MissTammy at November 14, 2011 04:42 AM (3inkD)

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I am trying to get to the lowest common denominator about human life as a non-hermit.  On this level, I don't think it matters that we live in the present -- I think the real answers about humans are timeless, because they were written by the creator of the universe --

Because these laws were written by the creator of the universe they are like gravity, themodynamics, chemistry, etc. -- laws we can discover, and teach each other, and use to our advantage -- but we can never change them, and we sure as hell cannot vote them away.

And, because they are laws like gravity, in order to use them to our advantage, we must manipulate tradeoffs and we will always have to mature enough to accept the consequences of the tradeoffs we make.

544 #555

The task is more than just defeating a man. The greater task is defeating the bad idea for which he is merely the latest avatar. Otherwise we'll only be wresting a small delay in the collapse.

545 559 #555

The task is more than just defeating a man. The greater task is defeating the bad idea for which he is merely the latest avatar. Otherwise we'll only be wresting a small delay in the collapse.

Posted by: epobirs at November 14, 2011 04:54 AM (kcfmt)

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absolutely.  that is why I resist letting any leftists off the hook for his failures.  anyone pushing the same philosophy would be tanking just as bad.

546 ""I think he's waling away over there on the pre-CBS Twin Reverb that delivered the final blow..""

yeah those amps sound like shattered glass. I have2 of my father's old fender amps here. Yikes they are bright.

547 we will always have to mature enough to accept the consequences of the tradeoffs we make.

This is a bigee. People no longer seem to understand that everything comes with a price, and that you have to take the bad with the good.

548 I finished rebuilding the mechanisms

So you didn't just refinish it??? You got some serious skill sets, young man!

549 He has had to adapt. He had a filibuster proof Senate and owned the House, yet he wasn't able to push his full agenda through. Why? Because members of his own party couldn't go quite that far. Their self preservation instincts kicked in.
 
So now he's forced after 2010 to negotiate for less than his desire for full fledged socialism. It's not flying. But he can at least try and move that damn Overton window some more.

550 >>MY job is cancel out some progressive scumbag's vote. Period.

Yeah but...but...there are more of them than us.

551 ""So you didn't just refinish it??? You got some serious skill sets, young man!""


Well the suckers are spring driven, flat springs in a drum that you wind up when you crank it over. The billion year old grease got real hard so the thing would't spin steady and it was clunking. I had to take everything apart and soak the parts in mineral spirits, then assemble it with all new grease. It works great now. Didn't plan on having to do it, but shit happens.

552 565 He has had to adapt. He had a filibuster proof Senate and owned the House, yet he wasn't able to push his full agenda through. Why? Because members of his own party couldn't go quite that far. Their self preservation instincts kicked in.
 
So now he's forced after 2010 to negotiate for less than his desire for full fledged socialism. It's not flying. But he can at least try and move that damn Overton window some more.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 14, 2011 05:05 AM (ENKCw)

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and confusion is his best friend.  he will try to create more of it at every turn.

553 566 >>MY job is cancel out some progressive scumbag's vote. Period.

Yeah but...but...there are more of them than us.

Posted by: sTevo at November 14, 2011 05:07 AM (VMcEw)

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Your wording makes me think you are pointing out BS in the narrative.  I agree with you.  They love to tell us that, but it isn't true.  What is true is there are more confused people than confident people, and that is where their power lies.  The more we can cut the confusion, the more we will cut their power.

554 Didn't plan on having to do it, but shit happens.

Being prepared for any eventuality is an excellent trait in a man. Very appealing!!!

Yeah but...but...there are more of them than us.

Not yet, sTevo, not yet!!

and confusion is his best friend.  he will try to create more of it at every turn.

Yep. OWS, anyone?

555 Gentlemen, I am so sleepy now, I think I can probably ignore the poker players...thanks for some amazing insights!!

And sleep sweet.....

556 Well that makes me feel all warm inside to know that I may be wrong but, until George Soros and Hugo Chavez are eliminated from owning the voting machine companies, there are still more of them, electronically.

557 Night, MissT

558 572 Well that makes me feel all warm inside to know that I may be wrong but, until George Soros and Hugo Chavez are eliminated from owning the voting machine companies, there are still more of them, electronically.

Posted by: sTevo at November 14, 2011 05:24 AM (VMcEw)

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point to sTevo.

559
This could be my write-in question to the repubs on debate night:

What are you doing about election fraud in this next election?

In the meantime I will be watching Killer Klowns From Outer Space so I can better understand Ron Paul.

560 good morning all

561 Goood morning Chemjeff!

562 Excuse me ? Focusing on something other than abortion - laws regarding which are never going to be changed - is a tragedy ? Is it just that, or is there a "damn xenophobes" angle to this idiotic opinion ?

563 Great article on RedState - The Perry Campaign Gets a Lifeline.

564 ugh Monday

565 oh look, some local news: the greenies don't want to pay their fair share
Wind Farm Fights Property Tax

566 *knock, knock*.... *ding-dong, KNOCK, KNOCK KNOCK!!!* Yeah, I don't know if youv'e *noticed* but a lot of your hounds have taken to baying, barking and howlng, all night every night for the last couple of months. Yeah, sure, I'm like 3 sub-divisions and almost 1.5 mile away... But it does tend to grate, over time. So, here's the deal... I made a 3AM Run and I've got yer Dawgs!!! Every loneley fucking yappie-mouth, puppeh went eagerly into my "van". Because, I paid attention to them. Go get them at the Pima Animal Shelter. If you care at all...which I doubt you do. Who the fuck leaves puppehs outside in cold weather like this? Who the fuck leaves doggehs to howl and howl and howl until someone gets into a car to figure shit out? BTW, WTF is wrong with your neighbors? They must have KNOWN something is wrong with your evil ass. Eh, the xeri-scaping in your development really IS top notch!

567 oh, it gets even better
This project was touted by Obama & Biden
it got millions in stimulus funds
it is owned by a state Dem political crony
and they are refusing to pay <$1 mil in property taxes

568 Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2011 06:24 AM (s7mIC) ---------------- Jesus. Fuck these people.

569 there was also an article on Instapundit recently, too
about how NYC Dems want the income tax to be reduced for places with a high cost of living
which, of course, would exempt them from a lot of taxes.

taxes for thee, but not for me
how shameful

570 Here is the Instapundit story
http://tinyurl.com/ctmx8af

571 So the people in these districts deserve a cost of living tax break because they impose higher cost of living on themselves through their regional, state and local governance? What should we call this tax break? The “Too stupid to govern themselves locally” adjustment? -------- Hahaha yes.

572 Well I guess I should go to the gym.
Although I am beginning to question what is even the point anymore.

573 I dunno... Everyone asks me why I don't leave Tucson for Phoenix. I'm kinda waiting to be ASKED to come to Knoxville, TN! Everyone wants me to OPERATE in PHX, TUC and NoGO but they all put it as a flitting "opportunity". Yeah, there are tons of opportunities on the border, so what?

574 Posted by: chemjeff at November 14, 2011 06:52 AM (s7mIC) ------- Sounds like someone's got a case of the mondays.

575 *Deety with the tin-foil hat screwed on tight!* Do you think that Fast and Furious was an evil plan by the DOJ to arm the Mexican Drug Cartels to ensure that no Edison light-bulbs would be smuggled into the states?

576 Posted by: Deety at November 14, 2011 06:59 AM (SINNR) My God...it all makes perfect sense!

577 Chelsea Clinton is *beyond* merit now, bitchez! Question her, you have to question Bill or Hill and THAT ain't gonna fuckin' happen. Deal with it! Whatever Chelsea Clinton does is fucking AWESOME!!! Because no matter what she does, it might reflect on her parents, sooo.... Fucking Awesome!!! Yeah, Whatever... I don't see Chelsea Clinton writing a serious book about "the polis" anytime soon. Her Dad mighta coulda... but he was distracted by more PRESSING concerns! Her Mom? Fucking intellectual lightweight! Sorry Chelsea, your Mom is a fucking idiot and your Dad is a brilliant, corrupt satyr.

578 "If the latter is the case, then this is a real tragedy for conservatism."

This gentleman could not be more incorrect. Failure to stand fast against any compromise with illegal immigration would mean the following. I leave it to the reader to determine whether or not these things would be good or bad for conservatism:

1. It would cement the idea that we will not fight for victory against what the media favors.

2. It would cement the idea that all demographics are equal, but some are more equal than others, and can thus do as they feel they need they must, especially if it regards economics.

3. It will cement the idea that if one can not get one's way via the rule of law, you can just do an end-around--that in other words, if you cheat long enough and hard enough, you can present people with a fait accompli and demand they take it.

4. It will cement the idea the idea that we have an obligation to help those in the rest of the world, not by helping them change their systems to better insure opportunity, or by giving them fair trade via the free market capitalist system so that they may grow their own nations in their own ways, but by letting them in this nation. Since we cannot take everyone in the world in, this is problematic.

5. It will cement the idea that only economic outcomes count as determining considerations in American public policy, especially in regards to those not as prosperous as they desire to be. All other considerations must yield. In that light, we should never expect to win an argument against total income redistribution.

6. It will cement in place the idea that if you don't like something in a democracy, you can import enough voters and promise them things until you have enough to make a majority. In other words, the idea that if you don't like the people as they are, you change the people, not yourself. And that you do it on the sly. 

7. It will cement in place the idea that you can move somewhere and make demands (including on the public fisc) on those who owe you nothing, and who already give you basic human rights (i.e., there are no pogroms against Hispanics in the United States. Period. If you disagree, go research what a pogrom actually was/will probably be again).

8. It will cement in place the idea that the people of the United States do not get the final say on what their country will be--that both groups within and without the nation will have vetoes.

I could go on, but I hope everyone sees the point. A surrender on illegal immigration is the creation of a mortal threat to conservatism/classic liberalism/"libertyism" that may not prove survivable; a win on this issue, on the other hand, is a death wound to one branch of leftism/fascism/socialism/progressivism, and will have  positive benefits in other areas. Surrendering means there is a chance we become Venezuela; winning means we are that much closer to being what we can be, the bright shining city on a hill governed by the people themselves in a moderate rule-of-law fashion, where the "Protestant" work ethic is the final determiner of your prosperity, not a politician acting as a patron (or a foe).

579 As a follow-up: if we are one day going to have to "compromise" on illegal immigration, then my compromise is this: take the number of illegal immigrants, increase the quota for Mexico, Guatemala, et al by that amount--and demand that only those who have never been in the U.S. illegally be eligible. In other words--sure, we'll take in 12 million Hispanics. Just not the ones here right now. Those guys--never. And I actually happen to like the culture and the people in many ways. But they are demanding where I do not feel they have a right to demand, and that I cannot abide.

580 So... What do you think is the "line in the sand" past which no Conservative Candidate shall not trod, Insert? Is this a singlular issue for you? Black and White, Yea or Nay? What if NO candidate says precisely what you want to hear on this issue? Are they all then irredemably corrupt and thus not worthy of your vote? Tell me more...