August 16, 2011
— Gabriel Malor I understand that Governor Palin has been taking fire from asshole reporters for three years now. I get that her life is basically a media circus. Part of that, of course, is that she wanted the attention. But wanting attention and wanting what the media did to her are two different things. So I understand she's a bit shell-shocked.
This, though, is not appropriate behavior.
What happened was that Alex Pappas of The Daily Caller, one of the rising stars among political scribes and a meticulously careful and wonderfully polite, fair-minded young man (an aside: I've known him since he was in junior high school), wrote a perfectly fine story about Palin's current stances vis-a-vis the presidential race. In it, one of the things she said was that if Mitt Romney is the nominee, well, of course she would endorse him over Barack Obama.Fox Nation picked up the story and, in its own headline (not Pappas', not the Daily Caller's, but its own headline completely apart from anything Pappas ever wrote) played up the "Romney endorse" angle in a way that apparently did not make it clear that the endorsement might be in the general election, rather than the primary campaign. (The headline is no longer available at Fox Nation, so I can't say exactly what the wording was.)
Anyway, the Palin team pounced. Specifically inviting over reporter Kasie Hunt from Politico so she could hear the exchange, Palin called Pappas' cell phone and began berating him in a very scolding manner for writing a headline suggesting she supports Romney. Pappas didn't even know what she was talking about. When he tried to say that neither he nor his editors had written such a headline, she said she didn't have time for this, that she needed to go back to the "real people" at the State Fair, and hung up on him.
Palin needs to get a grip. This was both sloppy staff work and rude behavior from Palin. One of our frequent gripes with the President is that he's a thin-skinned whiner who can't handle the attention that comes with national office. I get that Palin has had a hard time. It will not be any easier from the Oval Office.
She had a proper option here. If Palin honestly believed Alex had written, incorrectly, that she endorsed Romney then she should have asked for a correction and, whether she got one or not, issued a statement making her position clear. Of course, if she'd taken this level-headed approach, her misperception about Alex's piece would have been cleared right up when she asked for the correction. Yelling at someone on the phone was probably cathartic, but it wasn't presidential.
On the topic of Things Not Presidential: This? Also not very presidential. Accusing public servants of being "almost treasonous" because they have a different view of monetary policy plays well for Ronulans, but then again we expect so very little in the way of good behavior from Ronulans. Hearing it from a legitimate candidate like Perry surprised me. Particularly since, if he is elected, Perry's term will overlap with Bernanke's term.
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Posted by: the other guy who calls everyone a RINO at August 16, 2011 03:38 AM (W+Mia)
Posted by: wdk535 at August 16, 2011 03:39 AM (CPYmx)
Let's see how she responds.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 03:40 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Will at August 16, 2011 03:41 AM (Zxd7F)
Posted by: Kerry at August 16, 2011 03:44 AM (a/VXa)
Fish or cut bait, Sarah.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at August 16, 2011 03:45 AM (01dv7)
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2011 03:45 AM (houma)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 03:45 AM (EPcuy)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 03:47 AM (EPcuy)
As someone wrote on the AS comment board - when you've been ducking bullets for three years, you can't be blamed for jumping into a mud puddle when a car backfires. Yeah, Palin overreacted, but I don't blame her. It's not her job to keep track of who hasn't tried yet to destroy her family.
Posted by: chazmartel at August 16, 2011 03:47 AM (OV2xF)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 16, 2011 03:50 AM (73tyQ)
When someone acts truly "presidential" let me know.
Posted by: dagny at August 16, 2011 03:50 AM (nBOrb)
Posted by: Paris Paramus at August 16, 2011 03:50 AM (wc/Br)
Fox printed a lie in the headline and put this reporter's name under it. They called him to raise hell about it.
The only people who take issue with this are the people who already hate her.
And no, she is not on my short list. She is NOT running.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 03:51 AM (M9Ie6)
She's been prick teasing the populous her groupies since McDumbshit picked her as a running mate for 2008, - which is fine, if she can make a living at it, - but otherwise whatever, dude.
Posted by: Fritz at August 16, 2011 03:52 AM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: Hateful rino rhetoric at August 16, 2011 03:52 AM (STTZD)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 16, 2011 03:54 AM (0OJd9)
Posted by: Hateful rino rhetoric at August 16, 2011 07:52 AM (STTZD)
How can you say that about me after I have been (verbally) assaulted by an evil TEA Party tool of millionaires and billionaires?
Posted by: Barky O, and I am not a stuttering sibilant clusterfuck of a failure at August 16, 2011 03:55 AM (jVKZG)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 16, 2011 03:56 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Dogbert at August 16, 2011 03:57 AM (JWUKZ)
Posted by: mockmook at August 16, 2011 03:58 AM (ksiM3)
Posted by: JeffC at August 16, 2011 03:58 AM (daolU)
I'm not sure where you're coming from, since your comments in ace's latest swing and a miss on Palin were all over the place; but you're gonna have to give me more compelling reasons to STFU.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2011 03:59 AM (houma)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 16, 2011 04:00 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 16, 2011 04:01 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 16, 2011 04:01 AM (73tyQ)
Posted by: More Hateful rino rhetoric at August 16, 2011 04:02 AM (STTZD)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 04:04 AM (EPcuy)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 16, 2011 04:04 AM (eOXTH)
No he didn't write the headline. Fox mangled it in support of their boy Romney. Her staff should have been bitching at Fox but they had no idea that the stated author had not wrote the headline.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 04:05 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 16, 2011 04:06 AM (FkKjr)
This is a set-up folks. They're doing this shit on purpose folks. Bernanke is guilty of treason.
Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at August 16, 2011 04:06 AM (MPtFW)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 16, 2011 04:07 AM (kUaEF)
Fucking a dead economy up worse just to keep the TOTUS in office is treasonous.
Much ado about nothing regarding Perry. In fact, it's about time the GOP started going after this bunch of clowns in the Administration instead of sitting on their asses doing nothing.
As far as Palin, well, she isn't running for office. Sounds like a private matter.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 16, 2011 04:08 AM (mUUcy)
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 04:08 AM (M9Ie6)
Had CBS morning news on...for a very short time...and listened to the interviewer stumble through an interview with Capt. Sullenberger about birds and safety around airports. Asked bunch of stupid questions with obvious answers. Poorly. How do idiots like that stay employed. Back to espn. On mute.
Posted by: NC Ref at August 16, 2011 04:09 AM (/izg2)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 16, 2011 04:10 AM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 08:04 AM (EPcuy)
You might want to address that to the blog owner and his catamites since they're the ones that gleefully print every fucking thing negative about Palin; and have almost always been proven wrong. I held off from posting anything on that pile of shit that ace posted yesterday since the scrum was already in progress. But if Gabe is gonna pile on in his twatty me too manner, then fuck that shit.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2011 04:11 AM (houma)
Huh.
The outlet that blew Journolist wide open just got transformed into Pravda, and all it took was calling out the True Conservative Goddess on her failure of a press shop.
Posted by: Lou at August 16, 2011 04:11 AM (tmeLc)
No shit. Damn tea bagging terrorists!
Posted by: b+rry Obama at August 16, 2011 04:12 AM (McHnx)
Posted by: Matt at August 16, 2011 04:12 AM (c4srZ)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 04:12 AM (EPcuy)
Posted by: Minuteman at August 16, 2011 04:13 AM (hbAPu)
Posted by: tahDeetz at August 16, 2011 04:13 AM (3we9D)
Posted by: Thresher at August 16, 2011 04:14 AM (PA3G8)
Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at August 16, 2011 04:15 AM (QBQcg)
Posted by: real joe at August 16, 2011 04:17 AM (w7Lv+)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 16, 2011 04:18 AM (kUaEF)
The people who are fault in this little kerfuffle are the person who placed the headline and the editor who ok'd it at Fox.
Keep this in mind all you folks who still have the outmoded belief that Fox is our friend. They are NOT.
I will admit though that it did not stay up long before it was removed.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 04:18 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 16, 2011 04:18 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 08:04 AM (EPcuy)
Hm. Yeah, that statement might have carried a bit more weight if you hadn't just invited another commenter to STFU.
Posted by: GGE Of The Banned at August 16, 2011 04:19 AM (UAMbQ)
“If this guy prints more money between now and the election,” Perry said, “I don’t know what y’all would do to him in Iowa, but we -- we would treat him pretty ugly down in Texas. Printing more money to play politics at this particular time in American history is almost treacherous -- or treasonous in my opinion.”
Posted by: maverick muse at August 16, 2011 04:19 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 04:21 AM (EPcuy)
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C'mon dude. Why would they purposely attack Palin, a fellow conservative? Makes no sense.
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 08:12 AM (EPcuy)
I'll assume you didn't forget the sarc tag?
Posted by: dagny at August 16, 2011 04:22 AM (nBOrb)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 16, 2011 08:19 AM (eOXTH)
I thought I was in Bizarro AoS when I read that.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2011 04:22 AM (houma)
Yeah, I disagree with Gabe's take on that too. veerything this adm does is treasonous and I count helicopter Ben as part of this adm.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 04:22 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 16, 2011 04:23 AM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 16, 2011 04:23 AM (lbo6/)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 16, 2011 04:24 AM (kUaEF)
Posted by: GGE Of The Banned at August 16, 2011 04:24 AM (UAMbQ)
Perry's comment is a lot more calculated and politically intelligent than you may suspect. Perry isn't out to impress New York analysts, or the Wall Street crowd in general. He already knows that they hate him, and he refreshingly doesn't try to do anything to suck up to people who hate him. In fact, he goes out of his way to poke a sharp stick in their eye. Which is what he did with the Bernank.
Perry is looking at the Voters, not at the D.C. crowd. How popular do you think Bernanke is these days? How many voters will hear Perry and say "oh, that poor Ben Bernanke, he's always looking out for us, who would say anything bad about him?"
Perry is betting that Bernanke is even more unpopular than Obama. I think that's a pretty safe bet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 16, 2011 04:24 AM (T1boi)
Posted by: Old grizzled gym coach at August 16, 2011 04:25 AM (QBQcg)
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2011 04:25 AM (houma)
Did she make Pappas sad?
Posted by: beedubya at August 16, 2011 04:26 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 04:26 AM (EPcuy)
Posted by: Mitt Romney, reading his dog-eared copy of Battlefield Earth at August 16, 2011 04:26 AM (FkKjr)
I thought this position was an appointed position and subject to recall by the President. I suspect if Perry wins he will look at firing helicopter Ben. I'll have to do some research here.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 04:26 AM (M9Ie6)
".. I would not be caught dead with that toe nastiness."
Not even Gabe can beat that.
Posted by: franksalterego at August 16, 2011 04:27 AM (7/sDI)
Obammy's new slogan should be "Treason, it's what's for dinner". Calling them out on it is fine to me..........................but, Oh NO! is this going to offend the "let's not be extreme" bedwetter, mushy middle, wet blanket, pussy, ghey asswipey whiners who hate any conflict and would roll over for Bammy's domestic army?
Posted by: dagny at August 16, 2011 04:27 AM (nBOrb)
And I'll take a Politico reporter's version of anything when Daisy Fuentes starts returning my phone calls.
Seriously, Daisy, call me.
Posted by: nickless at August 16, 2011 04:28 AM (MMC8r)
71 Rush sure as hell has no problem seeing the Obama Administration as treasonous.
Rush doesn't have to get elected president - something he both knows and freely admits.
I agree that the furor over Perry's statement is way overblown. But you can't say stupid shit like that with a vulturous media circling overhead. That's what Democrat attack ads are made of.
Posted by: Lou at August 16, 2011 04:28 AM (tmeLc)
Posted by: It's Morning in the Pension Fund of America at August 16, 2011 04:28 AM (WexIn)
Posted by: lions at August 16, 2011 04:29 AM (6xSCS)
I agree that the furor over Perry's statement is way overblown. But you can't say stupid shit like that with a vulturous media circling overhead.
I agree with that. He's in, he's got a big following right now for comparatively little effort. He should keep his powder dry just a bit longer.
Then he should beat JEF like a rented mule.
Oh, was that racist?
I denounce myself.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 04:30 AM (sbV1u)
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Why do you even come here? To show off your pure conservatism?
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 08:26 AM (EPcuy)
He comes here to amuse me which he does. I appreciate his dependable view...it doesn't sway with the breeze or fashion.
Posted by: dagny at August 16, 2011 04:30 AM (nBOrb)
Posted by: Case at August 16, 2011 04:30 AM (FD6YW)
Way, way off topic, but the Mrs. is having surgery on her knee this morning. (Basically having some bone shaved off, then the kneecap realigned, then screwed back in place.) Not life threatening, but it should help her with her knee pain.
The weird thing is that after 14 years of marriage (with the exception of childbirth) this is the first surgery she's had, compared to the 40 or so I've had. I don't like being on this side of the waiting room.
Anyway, please pray, burn incense, put sauce on the flying spaghetti monster, or offer up a burnt offering of hobo, as is your custom, for her. I'd appreciate it.
Posted by: Chuck Z at August 16, 2011 04:31 AM (OITDh)
Posted by: ltw at August 16, 2011 04:32 AM (Cbief)
As stipulated by the Banking Act of 1935, the President appoints the seven members of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System; they must then be confirmed by the Senate and serve for 14 years. Once appointed, Governors may not be removed from office for their policy views. The chairman and vice-chairman are chosen by the President from among the sitting Governors for four-year terms; these appointments are also subject to Senate confirmation. In practice the chairman is often re-appointed, but cannot serve longer than one 14-year term as governor (or, if appointed to fill a position whose previous occupant had not served out their term, then 14 years plus the time remaining in the previous unexpired term).
So if this is accurate the President can not fire him unless he is found to be disqualified. (There are limitations on who can be appointed)Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 04:32 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 04:33 AM (EPcuy)
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 04:33 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: dagny at August 16, 2011 04:34 AM (nBOrb)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 08:04 AM (EPcuy)
Look at the two tough conservatives having a slap fight! If you cared half as much about the sorry state of the working man in this once great country as you do about the haircut of your favorite fascist running for president the country would be better off. But no, all you care about is yourselves, and how the election is going to affect you and your precious bank accounts and stock portfolio. Well, Obama is finally getting around to making this a fairer country, so you can kiss your ill-gotten gains goodbye.
Posted by: Peppermint Patty's BenWa balls at August 16, 2011 04:34 AM (LH6ir)
Because after all the bs the press has made up about Sarah Palin, I'm supposed to just accept this story as truth. Yeah, okay....
I love Palin, though she's not my first choice for a presidential candidate, I'd gladly cast a vote for her if given the opportunity. It is fascinating however to watch the never ending petty bitch fest that both sides participate in regarding all things Palin.
Posted by: mugiwara at August 16, 2011 04:34 AM (W7ffl)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 16, 2011 04:35 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: Peppermint Patty's BenWa balls at August 16, 2011 08:34 AM (LH6ir)
Ah, CBD! You crazy scamp!
I memorized your hash just for this!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 04:35 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Pavel Milyukov at August 16, 2011 04:35 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 16, 2011 04:35 AM (lbo6/)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 08:26 AM (EPcuy)
And you should see what he can do with his tongue!
Posted by: Typical perverted moron at August 16, 2011 04:36 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 16, 2011 04:36 AM (jVKZG)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 08:26 AM (EPcuy)
Word to the wise Joffen, for someone who recently showed up here during election season you sure attack a lot of people. I recommend you get the lay of the land before you indiscriminately make negative comments about anyone.Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 04:36 AM (M9Ie6)
As stipulated by the Banking Act of 1935, the President appoints the seven members of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System; they must then be confirmed by the Senate and serve for 14 years. Once appointed, Governors may not be removed from office for their policy views.
What about for incompetence?
Posted by: s☺mej☼e at August 16, 2011 04:37 AM (McHnx)
I memorized your hash just for this!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 08:35 AM (sbV1u)
I knew it looked familiar; well done though
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2011 04:38 AM (houma)
Posted by: Chuck Z at August 16, 2011 08:31 AM (OITDh)
I hate being the one in the waiting room. Just a head's up. There's a low carb diet called the "zone" by Barry Sears. It's an anti-inflammation diet. She might want to look into it as she's recuperating, it really speeds things along. It literally rids you of all your aches and pains that aren't "big mechanical" within 48 hours. Just look under zone classic at the zonediet website.
Posted by: dagny at August 16, 2011 04:38 AM (nBOrb)
That Palin chose to personally make a berating phone call before reading what a journalist actually wrote was unimpressive and inappropriate, especially if she wants us to believe her statesmanship qualities. During the '08 campaign as the VP, her (assigned?) receptionist handed her a crank phone call to take without vetting. That was unfortunate. But Palin's had plenty of time to vet and amass her own people, and if she can't do everything herself (who can?), they should be the one's researching details and making polite inquiries on her behalf before she actually gets involved slinging mud.
So charismatic candidates fly off the handle and go too far casting erroneous judgment. Nothing new there.
Yes, American voters are in fighting mode. But creating shit that wasn't already there only mires us further unless we get over it without distraction.
Posted by: maverick muse at August 16, 2011 04:38 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Chuck Z at August 16, 2011 08:36 AM (OITDh)
Roger.
Just a reminder, that Stetsons, coins, track pads from the last foray in the sandbox, shiny cal .50 rounds from your epic Table VI run and other C-DAT regalia are not appropriate recovery gifts.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 04:38 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 16, 2011 04:39 AM (lbo6/)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 08:04 AM (EPcuy)
Look at the two tough conservatives having a slap fight! If you cared half as much about the sorry state of the working man in this once great country as you do about the haircut of your favorite fascist running for president the country would be better off. But no, all you care about is yourselves, and how the election is going to affect you and your precious bank accounts and stock portfolio. Well, Obama is finally getting around to making this a fairer country, so you can kiss your ill-gotten gains goodbye.
Posted by: Peppermint Patty's BenWa balls at August 16, 2011 08:34 AM (LH6ir)
Oh! I see! Not a fool, just Charlie Brown's shit stirring Moby.
Posted by: s☺mej☼e at August 16, 2011 04:40 AM (McHnx)
That would disqualify all of the fed govs and leave no one to pick.
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 16, 2011 04:40 AM (0OJd9)
Posted by: kbdabear at August 16, 2011 04:40 AM (Y+DPZ)
Good point. I would much rather go under the knife or have some unpleasant procedure than have to stand around feeling stupid and anxious and useless while my wife has to go through it.
Good luck.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 16, 2011 04:40 AM (LH6ir)
Btw, I didn't mention it here because I was busy with other things (obviously) but I became a grandfather for the first time on Saturday.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2011 04:40 AM (houma)
Posted by: Tom In Korea at August 16, 2011 04:40 AM (OXB7R)
But hey, facts be damned!
Posted by: GMan at August 16, 2011 04:41 AM (sxq57)
Posted by: s☺mej☼e at August 16, 2011 08:37 AM (McHnx)
Evidently not. But if it was up to me I would pull a Jackson and totally eliminate the Fed. That would get rid of all of them.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 04:41 AM (M9Ie6)
Frank Sinatra knew how to handle reporters and photographers
He ate steak dinners off their naked torsos?
Oh, sorry, that was whores. Never mind, I get the two confused all the time.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 04:41 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2011 07:45 AM (houma)
I was there as well.
Posted by: Dana PeRINO at August 16, 2011 04:42 AM (EL+OC)
I'm a huge WFB fan but the misunderstanding of his rule has caused a lot of the problem we have now. The elected political body has become increasingly more liberal moving the Overton window way to the left.
The mistake is that some believe that electing any old RINO is better than the Democrat.
Buckley did not care if someone was a Republican or Democrat. He was for the more conservative. His BuckPac was the reason Lieberman won the Senate seat in CT over Lowell Weicker.
Reagan today , after seeing how far down the road to socialist hell we've gone, I believe, would change his 11th Commandment to read "Thou shalt not speak ill of any Republican" to "Thou shalt not speak ill of any Conservative".
Palin takes it to Ogabe, the media, and the entire left. I have yet to get an answer from the Palin-phobes here to the question of what policy disagreements they have with her.
Posted by: beedubya at August 16, 2011 04:42 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: It's Morning in the Pension Fund of America at August 16, 2011 04:44 AM (WexIn)
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2011 04:44 AM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 16, 2011 04:45 AM (lbo6/)
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 08:38 AM (sbV1u)
What! That's all the get well gift ideas I had!
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2011 08:40 AM (houma)
Congrats! Time to buy a new gun to commemorate. Pink or blue stock?
Posted by: Chuck Z at August 16, 2011 04:45 AM (OITDh)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 08:04 AM (EPcuy)
...and you do that by telling someone to STFU up?? Got it
Posted by: beedubya at August 16, 2011 04:45 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Bawney Fwank, behind Gabe, with a telescope at August 16, 2011 04:46 AM (A1Zmj)
Posted by: jhp2 at August 16, 2011 04:46 AM (UUHw0)
What a transparent taker you are. You talk about taking the fruits of others labor and giving it to others as if that is somehow fair. You idiotically equate punishing those who risked all to gain more, with making this country better. You are as petty and selfish as your argument and what you would make of this country. You're too stupid to look around the world at the collapse brought about by the very "fairness" you spew out of your petty selfishness. You, and your ilk, are pathetic in your envy, your laziness and your sense of entitlement to that which you have no right.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 16, 2011 04:47 AM (jx2j9)
Congrats! Time to buy a new gun to commemorate. Pink or blue stock?
Posted by: Chuck Z at August 16, 2011 08:45 AM (OITDh)
A 12 gauge with extra bluing would be nice
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2011 04:47 AM (houma)
Posted by: Peace Out! at August 16, 2011 04:47 AM (KaAC5)
This is why.
But hey, let's not take risks, let's go with overcautious and overcoached candidates who won't take chances.
Christie? Ohhhhh, way too much of a loose cannon. Let's go with Huntsman who'll sit quietly when the MBM inevitably turns on him the day after the nomination like they did McCain.
Posted by: kbdabear at August 16, 2011 04:47 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 16, 2011 04:48 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: chillin the most at August 16, 2011 04:48 AM (6IV8T)
But empty 25mm brass from my epic Table VIII run makes very pretty bud vases and candlestick holders!
Bah! 25mm. Child's toy.
Now....120mm, that's a man's gun.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 04:48 AM (sbV1u)
FIFY, and without using the teleprompter even once
Posted by: The Fixer at August 16, 2011 04:49 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 04:50 AM (HvCPS)
Posted by: beedubya at August 16, 2011 08:42 AM
You seem to be the one who's rewriting the Buckley Rule to serve your own ends. "The most rightward electable candidate." That would be Scott Brown over Martha Coakley. That would be Marco Rubio over Charlie Crist and Kendrick Meek. That would, unfortunately, have been Castle over Coons.
Buckley worked against only three major Republican candidates - John Lindsay, Charles Goodell, and Lowell Weicker. In all three cases, the non-Republican was actually more conservative than the Republican. That is not nearly true today.
Today, only Communists and organized-labor toadies win Democrat Senate primaries. Scott Brown may be a squishy moderate, but Martha Coakley made him look like Allen West by comparison. Which is why we were right to support him and help him win.
Posted by: Lou at August 16, 2011 04:50 AM (tmeLc)
Posted by: Jack at August 16, 2011 04:50 AM (8IAHO)
Posted by: dagny at August 16, 2011 04:52 AM (nBOrb)
At least Obama doesn't lash out like this; he is far too intelligent and prepared for the press.
How do you know that? Did you catch him at his last presser in our 57th state? Or did a corpse-man tell you?
Probably was speaking in Austrian so you didn't really catch his meaning.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 04:52 AM (sbV1u)
You will be hearing from our attorney. That is libel.
Posted by: Prostitutes of America (media office) at August 16, 2011 04:53 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Christine O'Donnell at August 16, 2011 04:53 AM (iRlbA)
Not a moby. I resent resemble that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 16, 2011 08:50 AM (LH6ir)
FIFY (fool)
Posted by: s☺mej☼e at August 16, 2011 04:53 AM (McHnx)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 16, 2011 04:55 AM (lbo6/)
Posted by: Tom Tancredo at August 16, 2011 04:55 AM (Cu7Ii)
We really are the party of stupid.
Posted by: MarkC at August 16, 2011 04:55 AM (yPPVC)
I've been playing nice and leaving most of the Palin threads alone, but when the HQ can flog this an item, why should I practice restraint?
Let's see, does this thread have the usual "She hasn't taken time to get informed" accusation? Hmmm. Ahh, check. Howbout the "She needs to announce already" declaration by people who's day job is not to get people elected? Several.
May as well start a "Ron Paul Is Nuts" thread. That way you get the crazy, and the hits in the high hundreds before noon.
Posted by: K~Bob at August 16, 2011 04:56 AM (9b6FB)
But hey, facts be damned!
Posted by: GMan
Facts?
1. From what you write, she vetted and hired incompetency for her staff.
2. You're preaching to the choir, GMan. I supported Sarah Palin during her initial unpopularity here with this crowd. I don't dislike Palin the person. But given her cumulative endorsements ("fusionist"?), I wouldn't "believe" in her any more than in any other politician. They're all opportunists riding the wave of their choice to corrupted power.
3. I don't follow Palin's facebook diary. I responded to what Gabe printed before this thread of comments. If Gabe's criticizing Palin for failing to research a source while Gabe himself fails to research a source, teh funny.
Posted by: maverick muse at August 16, 2011 04:57 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: changer1701 at August 16, 2011 04:57 AM (xktXL)
"Local security? Don't we have infantry for that?"
Pbbbbbbttthhhhhtt!
Yes, but you sure do loves you some M-1 exhaust when the wind chill was about -20, didn't you?
I was a scout for a while too, for a Bn Cdr who had some kind of weird obsession with seeing his scouts dismount all too frequently. Stealthy, dontcha know.
So while I felt your pain, it only confirmed that I rather enjoyed my 70-ton LBE. Or 13-ton in the case of the M-113 (yes, yes, I am that old).
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 04:59 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 16, 2011 05:00 AM (VM1tJ)
On the Perry story, I'm not sure exactly what you want here. If he says it any less forcefully it either gets completely ignored or panned as milquetoast. Of course a candidate is going to be hyperbolic and say things that are a little over the top. That said, I heard the quote, and it didn't strike me as "unpresidential." He wasn't just decrying the monetary policy, but specifically the politicization of monetary policy. You can agree or disagree that teh Bernanke is politicizing policy, but if you agree with it, wouldn't you think (in the hyperbolic terms of a presidential campaign) that it was "almost treasonous?"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 16, 2011 05:00 AM (8y9MW)
Palin is just doing a Breitbart to draw the media into her clever toenail trap.
Having not learned from the crib notes on her hand, all she has to do is paint
"H i M o m" across one set of toes and "W T F ? ?" on the other.
and then just dangle them under a desk as bait for a willing photographer.
Posted by: AE at August 16, 2011 05:00 AM (YYjeh)
Palin's employer.
Posted by: maverick muse at August 16, 2011 05:00 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 16, 2011 05:02 AM (73tyQ)
And containing Politico "witnesses"?
Is this a screenplay for Redford's next movie?
Posted by: jeannebodine at August 16, 2011 05:02 AM (nvlAW)
Since when is a Stetson not an appropriate recovery gift?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 16, 2011 05:04 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: nohype at August 16, 2011 05:05 AM (9yfLe)
The prostitute just screws people, the lawyer screws them over?
Posted by: s☺mej☼e at August 16, 2011 05:06 AM (McHnx)
Posted by: Tom Tancredo
apropos
Posted by: maverick muse at August 16, 2011 05:06 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: fire with fire at August 16, 2011 05:09 AM (lcwvr)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 16, 2011 05:10 AM (9CM5J)
Since when is a Stetson not an appropriate recovery gift?
Well, if you're a tanker or a cavalryman, it's always a gift of good taste.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 16, 2011 05:10 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: section9 at August 16, 2011 05:10 AM (H6lGz)
Lol @ "70-ton LBE." Haven't heard that in a while.
And I feel ya on the BN CDR thing. That's what sucked about being mech. One third of the time, you'd get one who thought you were some type of tanker, the next guy would say "fuck that, we're light infantry!" And the next guy would have actually read the doctrine and let us do it the way we were trained. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 16, 2011 05:10 AM (lbo6/)
Posted by: TexBob at August 16, 2011 05:11 AM (7cXE7)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 16, 2011 05:11 AM (73tyQ)
Really...on which votes..or stated policy positions would you base that?
Posted by: beedubya at August 16, 2011 05:16 AM (AnTyA)
When the Cold War was hot, this kind of stuff would have been discussed openly, at high levels, as treason. Now we just let everything go, like it's supposed to make us look better to the rest of the world.
Yeah, better soft, better slow, better weakness. Way more better.
Posted by: K~Bob at August 16, 2011 05:19 AM (9b6FB)
I posted this last night as I watched some of the liberal blogs pick it up.
"Put simply, Dominionism means that Christians have a God-given right to rule all earthly institutions. Originating among some of America’s most radical theocrats, it’s long had an influence on religious-right education and political organizing. But because it seems so outré, getting ordinary people to take it seriously can be difficult. Most writers, myself included, who explore it have been called paranoid." link
over the weekend i encountered someone who maintained that perry was "dangerously religious" and I shut him down and I realize now, this was probably the article he was using as his source. Ugh, people are just nuts.
Posted by: curious at August 16, 2011 05:21 AM (k1rwm)
Not to answer this question directly, but Scott Brown is the reason we don't have a Dream Act right now. He was the deciding vote against.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 16, 2011 05:22 AM (VM1tJ)
Posted by: chillin the most at August 16, 2011 05:24 AM (6IV8T)
Posted by: curious at August 16, 2011 05:25 AM (k1rwm)
I'm convinced it's true, and I'm a little concerned that he'll hurt the GOP brand, - of course, Ron Paul no longer being a fringe Republican from Texas, and all.
Posted by: Concerned Christian Conservative at August 16, 2011 05:26 AM (/ZZCn)
No he didn't decide to "vote against it". He decided that he would stay with the Party position on the filibuster, unlike on a lot of other bills in which he stabbed the Party in the back and were just as bad.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 05:27 AM (M9Ie6)
I mean no one could access the pappas article on the iphone for her to read before she made the call? And, sorry but what gives her the right to yell at anyone? Why cause she heard a younger voice and she can't seem to get anything across to her own kids so she's going to yell at someone else's kid.
she just looks bad, again.
Posted by: curious at August 16, 2011 05:27 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: curious at August 16, 2011 09:27 AM (k1rwm)
The Constitution
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2011 05:29 AM (houma)
Posted by: Concerned Christian Conservative at August 16, 2011 09:26 AM (/ZZCn)
Ron Paul said he wouldn't violate Pakistan's sovereignty to kill Bin Laden. He will never be anything more than a fringe nutjob and an embarassment.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 16, 2011 05:32 AM (FkKjr)
I know this has been said before, but perhaps it's a good idea to try not to piss each other off.<<<Joffen
This from the "STFU" guy?
Posted by: Kerry at August 16, 2011 05:32 AM (a/VXa)
Posted by: sybil at August 16, 2011 05:32 AM (9CM5J)
192 > I mean no one could access the pappas article on the iphone for her to read before she made the call?
Yeah, I'm sure every staff is going to do total due diligence on every story every time. Like Vic said, the error was in the Fox newsers' making the headline look like Palin was "Endorsing!!!" Romney. This is why news agencies are terrible at communications. Ironic, but all too true.
If that ticked her off a lil' bit, I'm fine with her letting someone, somewhere know it.
Posted by: K~Bob at August 16, 2011 05:33 AM (9b6FB)
Oh, and of course Pappas is an angel, coming from someone who knew him since Junior High. I'm sure we can rely on their unbiased view.
Fact is, that the Palin team invited over a 3rd party to witness the exchange - it's not like they did this on the downlow. People are who are being assholes merely to be assholes like to do it under the radar, not with witnesses (see: JEF).
Really? This is what passes as postworthy?
And by-the-by, destroying the currency by printing money like crazy - which is KNOWN to have deleterious effects: Yeah. That's treasonous. How dare anyone call Bernyankme on it.
Posted by: blindside at August 16, 2011 05:35 AM (x7g7t)
Posted by: Lou at August 16, 2011 05:38 AM (tmeLc)
Posted by: museisluse at August 16, 2011 05:38 AM (4Lj43)
It just is, OK? Don't ask why. Treasonous basterds.
Posted by: Harry Treasoner at August 16, 2011 05:38 AM (9b6FB)
Posted by: polynikes at August 16, 2011 05:40 AM (r8Vu0)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 16, 2011 05:40 AM (9CM5J)
Posted by: curious at August 16, 2011 05:40 AM (k1rwm)
>> Lol @ "70-ton LBE." Haven't heard that in a while.
Hah. I thought most treadheads would rather take their tanks with em.
Posted by: Shadowy Zionists at August 16, 2011 05:40 AM (M+59S)
Posted by: The Mike Castle Fan Club at August 16, 2011 05:41 AM (9CM5J)
Posted by: Joffen at August 16, 2011 05:42 AM (xJlZG)
Posted by: Lou at August 16, 2011 09:38 AM (tmeLc)
Hold on a second; I'm pretty much with you that Scotty Centerfold was probably the best that could be hoped for to fill the Murderer of Chappaquiddick's seat (although he's been a shameless attention hound once in office and is all over the place on individual votes for a purported Tea Party candidate); but I don't recall any RINO haters complaining about the House results. It was the likes of Rove that torpedoed GOP hopefuls so if anybody was angry it would be his ilk.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 16, 2011 05:44 AM (houma)
If Coakley was in, the Dream Act would have passed. I don't know what you're saying here. I'm on your side, by the way.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 16, 2011 05:45 AM (VM1tJ)
obviously the page hasn't been updated but I think it's safe to assume that perry would exercise his presidential discretion as regards uncle benny.
Posted by: curious at August 16, 2011 05:45 AM (k1rwm)
Hear, hear!
Posted by: Christine O'Donnell's Nonexistent Senate Staffers at August 16, 2011 05:46 AM (tmeLc)
Posted by: Apolitical, yet very concerned, citizen at August 16, 2011 05:49 AM (gTGz3)
Posted by: Harry Treasoner seems like a decent sort of sock at August 16, 2011 05:49 AM (9b6FB)
You know, I like Ace and Gabe's mostly ok, but that made me chortle. Because when they go douchey, they go full Massengill, and they need to be called on it on occasion.
Posted by: Kerry at August 16, 2011 05:50 AM (a/VXa)
/mumbles about rigging Thunderdome with explosives while he shuffles off in search of caffiene
Posted by: F--- Nevada! (I'm AoSHQ's DarkLord©, and I approve this message) at August 16, 2011 05:50 AM (GBXon)
Ha ha, good point! If only they had run moderates like us in Delaware!
Posted by: Carly Fiorina's and Linda McMahon's nonexistent Senate Staffers at August 16, 2011 05:51 AM (FkKjr)
You think the troll that is so afraid of personal information getting out and can't shut up her stupid yap is aware she's linking her e-mail address in every comment.
What was your college major troll?
Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2011 05:52 AM (GULKT)
^
This.
Especially the staff aspect. After all this time, it seems she still has not surrounded herself with professionals who add to her skill set. They appear to be great at promoting her and that's about it.
When Palin first hit the scene I was so excited. And, as I recall (someone can correct me here), fairly early on she was getting advice from some good people. I *think* I even remember Fred! being in the mix. In any event, I see no evidence that she ever takes that advice. Not a good quality in a leader.
I realize it is de rigeur to have to criticize another one of the "candidates" (Palin not being one, but whatever) in order to "balance" things, but I honestly did not see anything wrong with Perry's statement. I watched the clip and the way he delivered it, as well as the words themselves, was not unhinged. It's important to note the difference between describing actions (treasonous, traitorous) and labeling people. The former is standard, hard-hitting politics. It's the latter that poisons the well.
In any event, if I had to pull the lever in the primary today, Palin would be the second-lowest ranked candidate on my list, right above Ron Paul. That's really a sad thing to say considering I donated to the ticket based solely on her presence on it in 2008.
Posted by: Y-not at August 16, 2011 05:53 AM (5H6zj)
But, really, somebody with so much experience in the public eye should know A) that reporters often don't write their own headlines;
Apparently, sometimes reporters do write their own headlines.
What is far more instructive than the main subject of this prissy, pissy little article is that:
1. Palin's response was fast, direct (mama grizzly herself, not a staffer) and to the point.
2. The Palin POV : she said she didn't have time for this, that she needed to go back to the "real people" at the State Fair. Well, now.
3. And this: a Palin press aide called Pappas back not to apologize but to say that they now realized it was Fox and that the headline had been taken down.
She is operating at a very high level of political message management. She's running.
Posted by: mrp at August 16, 2011 05:54 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Carly Fiorina's and Linda McMahon's nonexistent Senate Staffers at August 16, 2011 09:51 AM
You're right. There's no victory like True Conservatism.
Posted by: Ken "I Hates the gays" Buck at August 16, 2011 05:55 AM (tmeLc)
Sorry. She's a loser. She's another fake. Reagan wouldn't have done that.
Then again, Reagan never acted like the only "real" Americans were the ones that adored him. He liked all Americans.
Posted by: Thea at August 16, 2011 05:56 AM (1mYui)
Anyhoo, I plan on complying with her request... unless she attacks a moron/ette again.
Posted by: Y-not at August 16, 2011 05:56 AM (5H6zj)
That ain't easy to do.
"If the Benbernank prints more money between now and the election, he ain't nothin' but Obama's stooge."
"If the Benbernank prints more money between now and the election, he ain't nothin' but Obama's butt-boy."
"If the Benbernank prints more money between now and the election, he ain't nothin' but a low-down Washington, D.C. politician."
"Treasonous treacheroid" mebbe ain't so bad after all...
Posted by: J. Moses Browning at August 16, 2011 05:57 AM (3rKjY)
You're right. There's no victory like True Conservatism.
Posted by: Ken "I Hates the gays" Buck at August 16, 2011 09:55 AM (tmeLc)
Preach it, my brother.
Posted by: Dede Scozzafava at August 16, 2011 05:58 AM (9CM5J)
Posted by: Kerry at August 16, 2011 05:58 AM (a/VXa)
Personally I'm curios why anyone should care about a reporter and how they're treated. Given how we have seen reporters treat their lessers (See Joe the Plumber as an example) I don't see why I should come up with any sympathy for the reporter.
And implying Palin treated the reporter badly instead of a staff member in the headline...So Washington Post.
Posted by: Tristan Phillips at August 16, 2011 06:01 AM (0tV1H)
Yeah, but it sounds true. So that's frankly enough for me.
Posted by: Palin Hater. Ahoy! at August 16, 2011 06:02 AM (VM1tJ)
Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2011 06:04 AM (GULKT)
So is it referring to the nail adornments or the Europeans?
Posted by: Y-not at August 16, 2011 06:07 AM (5H6zj)
He voted to uphold the filibuster was all I was saying. But yeah, I don't why anyone even brings up Brown in a Palin thread. He had his first ACU rating last year at 74. While he did stab us in the back several times in that lame duck session, a 74 is still orders of magnitude better than the ME sisters and better than a Democrat.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 06:07 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Spiker at August 16, 2011 06:08 AM (4t9J5)
Still haven't read any of Ron Paul's books or articles at Mises.org. You couldn't face the disappointment of finding out how wrong you are.
You can't legally exonerate invading a sovereign nation with the US Military in order to commit political assassinations without allowing our enemies to do likewise.
Besides, Bin Laden was already dead. He couldn't have lived this long even if he'd wanted to, even if the US wanted him to. It was medically not feasible. Top that with CIA witnesses who saw him dying years ago in an American hospital. No cure. Yet you promote invading Pakistan as what intelligent, patriotic Americans do in order to win hearts and minds of allies enemies. Whatever the mission accomplished that night, dead men tell no lies.
Expound on the "virtue" of genocide while you're at it. As if every anti-American abroad could be annihilated. Even if possible, given so many stateside, OMNIA VANITAS.
To hell with revisionism for the ignorant.
Ron Paul's platform would cut military spending but not spending on national security. He isn't the only conservative Republican who would not have begun the US aggressive invasions in the Middle East. No flip flopping like the neoconservatives whining to pull out our forces now that it's proven a political disaster and military failure. Fred Thompson warned as well against starting fights you don't have clear strategy for winning. And years ago, teh Fred advised it better to withdraw than to remain in Afghanistan given the circumstances as they are, a never-ending war. Call our Middle Eastern wars what you will. Kinetic actions are what losers fight since they aren't interested in "victory". I worried years ago of the sick irony that our bravest and most patriotic young Americans are being weeded out through loyal military service. And it was the Air Force Magazine that published reports, articles and letters referencing the massive spike in military suicides given that our all volunteer troops are being CONSTANTLY redeployed rather than allowed to reintegrate into home life to raise their families or live their private professional lives.
Of all the lies, tagging Ron Paul antisemitic because he's an Austrian Economist is dumbest. And the racist card doesn't apply to his views that honor the value of everyone's life. But since assholes will smear lies, ride their bandwagon of shit. /After all, the establishment would never lie./
Posted by: maverick muse at August 16, 2011 06:09 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Palin Hater. Ahoy! at August 16, 2011 10:02 AM (VM1tJ)
Don't you men "feels" true? RINO.
Posted by: I Control The RINO label franchise at August 16, 2011 06:11 AM (9b6FB)
You know the score.
Posted by: Joe Miller, Proof that Ideology = Electability at August 16, 2011 10:02 AM (tmeLc)
Yes, you must NEVER oppose the >Electable< moderate candidate!
Posted by: Charlie Crist at August 16, 2011 06:12 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: polynikes at August 16, 2011 06:12 AM (r8Vu0)
By the way, isn't the Daily Caller run by that scumbucket Tucker Carlson? The one who called Sarah a MILF?
Fuck him and anyone who works for him!
OK, I feel better now.
Posted by: BIG ROB at August 16, 2011 06:14 AM (hr33h)
I read the exact same thing on the inside of a bathroom stall.
Only, it was written in shit.
Posted by: tom at August 16, 2011 06:14 AM (8UlnD)
Gotcha, Vic. I actually didn't realize it never came to the floor, but I believe anything that came to the floor in that particular Congress was passed. I was just glad it got squashed. That said, I can't believe he got a 74.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 16, 2011 06:14 AM (VM1tJ)
Yeah, I'll make you one of my bundlers. You know you want some.
---
lol.
I am sad to say that I *did* have to pause before saying Ron is still at the bottom. But he is. He would be a dangerous CiC.
I guess the question is, what would it take for me to vote third party? Uncle Ron definitely flips that switch, but I'm not sure about the others. For example, I do not trust Huntsman at all, but he seems more competent than Palin. But if he's a competent Obama-Democrat... well, I don't want that. So I don't know where the line is for me in the bottom tier for third party voting. I think my bottom tier right now is Cain, Huntsman, Palin, and Paul.
Posted by: Y-not at August 16, 2011 06:14 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: ronno at August 16, 2011 06:15 AM (nQR0p)
Posted by: Charlie Crist at August 16, 2011 10:12 AM
Remember, kids, the non-RINO is automatically more electable and is sure to win in every contest they run. We should never consider that a True Conservative candidate has a history of lying, crackpottery, and confidence artistry. Ever.
Non-RINO = good.
Posted by: Sharron Angle, The Reason Dingy Harry's Still in Washington at August 16, 2011 06:18 AM (tmeLc)
Even faster than Hollowpoint and Jeff B. posting comments on a Palin thread? That fast?
Posted by: mrp at August 16, 2011 06:20 AM (HjPtV)
Anyway, I admit that the style feels a little Baptist preacher to me, which is fine but not something to which I'm accustomed. (If I were choosing purely on style, I prefer Christie's speeches.) It'll be interesting to see if Perry modifies his approach for a place like New Hampshire or for other northern states. He seems skilled at casting his message to fit the audience, but I guess we'll have to wait and see if he can pull that trick off. I am not sure the style would work that well in a lot of the western/mountain states, but that should be an easier slide for him to go less preacher and more 'rancher.'
Posted by: Y-not at August 16, 2011 06:20 AM (5H6zj)
254 I was thinking about Perry's Iowa speech (the Waterloo one) and how well I think it went. I enjoyed listening to it. It didn't sound canned -- more as if he were choosing his words based on notes rather than just reciting pre-written lines.
Did you also check out his announcement speech from Saturday? You know just as a sort of way to see how much he carries over between each speech. I did notice him talking about how he met his wife in both speeches, but they definitely weren't word-for-word repeats.
Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2011 06:24 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: Jimmah at August 16, 2011 06:26 AM (TfRqk)
I read it, but I didn't watch it. But, yeah, it seems as if he selects phraseology on the fly, which is common with folks who are used to speaking in public. (I used to do that back in the day when giving science talks, but they are easier in a way because you have slides for visual cues.)
I suppose it could just be that he's just starting out and the speeches will be more canned as he goes.
Not to start a regionalism flame war, but I do hope he can do a little less of the preacher style when he moves to the northeast and west coast. If Christie backs him (which I expect), it could be helpful if they sat down and he got some tips from him. Rubio also gives a good straight up speech.
Posted by: Y-not at August 16, 2011 06:28 AM (5H6zj)
Political assassination? Try executing a war criminal. Bin Laden killed three thousand Americans in an act of war. Any response against him is warranted, no matter where he is. Your messiah was playing footsie with the Truthers who believe Bin Laden is innocent when he made his statement.
I've listened to the rest of your stuff before. I'll just point out that Ron Paul! Believes that Bin Laden was there in Pakistan. Evidently he doesn't have access to the intel that you do.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 16, 2011 06:29 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: BillyBob at August 16, 2011 06:30 AM (F0Pf9)
Posted by: Y-not at August 16, 2011 06:30 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: mike at August 16, 2011 06:31 AM (/cyI7)
Posted by: polynikes at August 16, 2011 06:31 AM (r8Vu0)
Posted by: mike at August 16, 2011 06:33 AM (/cyI7)
There is no way to know that because Obama has not been subjected to 1/100 of the heat on Palin since '08. This is just ridiculous.
Posted by: real joe at August 16, 2011 06:36 AM (j+oeN)
Posted by: polynikes at August 16, 2011 06:37 AM (r8Vu0)
I'd be happy voting for either one, if they got the nomination.
Cain, too, if it came to it.
I'd still prefer Palin. Mostly because I know she'll do two things that I don't trust the others to do (yet). 1) Drill here, now; 2) Push hard to repeal Obamacare (not "repeal and replace" screw that).
Posted by: K~Bob at August 16, 2011 06:38 AM (9b6FB)
So the guy writes something based on someone else's work, doesn't do any research to verify, just repeats bullshit, and gets called on it? That's what you get for just copying stuff. Anybody with a brain would know that at this point in the game, no way is Palin supporting Missing Mittens. Seriously? Poor Pappas needs to get a clue and a new hankie.
As to the Perry comment - dude, who cares. Bernanke should be drawn and quartered just for his incompetence alone.
Posted by: California Curly at August 16, 2011 06:40 AM (8DdAv)
Thanks. I'll do that.
I confess I was thinking more about the economics of health care. I kept waiting for specifics from him (he used to be my top candidate when the pool was weaker) and never saw anything that satisfied me.
Yes, he said he'd grant waivers to the states. And, yes, he said he would sign a law overturning Obamacare, but I never saw what his vision was for health care on the national level. That leaves me to extrapolate what was done in Massachusetts (which he has criticized, but not specifically - and not acknowledged how health care delivery has been hurt by Masscare) to the US and I do not want that.
In terms of his economic plan. Perry was asked the classic job-interview question about what he'd do in his first thirty days and gave a good starting answer. Has Romney been asked that question?
My fantasy would be that Romney has developed a really detailed policy piece on health care that he would roll out the day after Perry selects him as his running mate. In that piece I would expect to see gory detailed analysis of the failures of Masscare. Then I'd like to see a map of what the legislative agenda would be coming from the Perry-Romney administration.
For a guy who is supposed to be an expert in this, I have been disappointed by the lack of meat coming from Romney.
Posted by: Y-not at August 16, 2011 06:44 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: polynikes at August 16, 2011 06:46 AM (r8Vu0)
1) He's a bit squirrely. Fidgety, and has that Bush-like, shoulder-blades up-and-down laugh. Also moves around just a bit too quickly. Cameras have trouble following him.
2) He has that same Bush-like tendency to pronounce the final 's' sound of a word with enough extra emphasis-ss to make it a whole 'nother syllable.
Neither of those would stop me from supporting him, but they definitely work against him in the general. Also, since he's been the Gov. for so long, these traits are not going to change before next year. So consider his podium technique cast in stone.
Posted by: K~Bob at August 16, 2011 06:47 AM (9b6FB)
Word.
RS McCain has a blogpost up at the American Spectator bleating for a comment from Palin, after disclosing his affiliations with and warm regards for Hillyer and Pappas.
Eff that.
Posted by: mrp at August 16, 2011 06:47 AM (HjPtV)
I was biased against him by what "everyone" said here before making the effort to prove him wrong by what he actually writes and fights on behalf of a consistently constitutional conservative agenda.
The difference between us is the degree of satisfaction one takes in believing rumors.
You claim to "listen" as data goes in one ear and out the other. I've stated my sources repeatedly. Steve Pieczenik initiated the CIA counter-terrorist program, and related the CIA info on bin Laden's death years ago. It is you who fail to actually research and fail to follow a point through to its logical conclusion. You failed to dispute the outcry from within the Military establishment regarding the rate of suicides, and the disillusionment of our troops being perpetually re-deployed. You don't want to read reports, easier to stay in denial remaining in ignorance. You might be criticized for advancing logic against the sway of emotionalism ruling the day.
You'd act as though you're only a smorgasbord believer in the establishment while it has you hook, line and sinker.
Posted by: maverick muse at August 16, 2011 06:48 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2011 06:48 AM (GULKT)
Paul Ryan now making noises about running.
Posted by: Vic at August 16, 2011 10:47 AM (M9Ie6)
There's a thread up on it.
Posted by: Tami at August 16, 2011 06:49 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: tahDeetz at August 16, 2011 06:55 AM (3we9D)
Anyone who's A)on the right, and B)paying attention, knows why she stepped down, poly.
Given those two qualifiers, anyone who matches them has to accept that they are comfortable with lawsuit abuse. You don't have to like it, but it's true.
Anyone who doesn't meet the qualifiers is scheduled for political defeat in 2012 anyway, so who cares what they say?
Anyone comfortable with lawsuit abuse is scheduled for political defeat by those who *do* meet the qualifiers, so again, who cares what they say?
Posted by: K~Bob at August 16, 2011 06:55 AM (9b6FB)
Posted by: blaster at August 16, 2011 06:58 AM (l5dj7)
Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2011 07:01 AM (GULKT)
Pappas has supporters???? HAHAHAHAHA...who are these "supporters" that are so desperate for a friend?
*wipes a tear
Posted by: catsaresewcute@yahoo.com at August 16, 2011 07:02 AM (XIpSR)
Pray tell, what bashing do I join, apart from that of Ace and his cobs on occasion? Since I'm the one who brought up the feminine hygiene products I assume you must mean me. Surely I don't post often enough to be accused of running to bash your pets, and certainly not with the regularity you, Y-not, and the usual suspects exercise (exorcise?) your Pavlovian 2-minute hate on Palin at every mention of the woman's name.
As someone else said above, We. Get. It. You don't like her. Ok already.
Posted by: Kerry at August 16, 2011 07:05 AM (a/VXa)
Posted by: George Soros at August 16, 2011 07:07 AM (H/Wdv)
Posted by: polynikes at August 16, 2011 07:07 AM (r8Vu0)
Posted by: polynikes at August 16, 2011 07:09 AM (r8Vu0)
Posted by: free at August 16, 2011 07:13 AM (cLLTM)
Posted by: doug at August 16, 2011 07:16 AM (gUGI6)
It was a meaningless procedural vote. even the Maine sisters voted for it
Don't even get into this, because there's no way you're objectively going to prove that Martha Coakley is more conservative than Scott Brown. It's a fool's errand even to try. All you'll do is arouse the libido of a few RINO-hunters who are still angry we won a House majority despite their best efforts.
Posted by: Lou at August 16, 2011 09:38 AM (tmeLc)
Nice straw man. I never said, or even implied that Coakley was more conservative. It was simply a waste of time and money to spend on a RINO in Mass., that would be considered a liberal anywhere else.
Posted by: beedubya at August 16, 2011 07:17 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Oh Jay Simpson at August 16, 2011 07:20 AM (/ZZCn)
Damn right, you do. Especially me, douchebag.
Posted by: Kerry at August 16, 2011 07:22 AM (a/VXa)
Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at August 16, 2011 07:23 AM (UrPTC)
Posted by: Rich at August 16, 2011 07:33 AM (SfHov)
"So you’re saying that I said that I support Mitt Romney?" she said to the reporter. "And what’s your headline? You need to be clear, otherwise people really lose faith in the state of journalists today and that is, I said ‘ABO’—anybody but Obama. And I would support the candidate who surfaces to take on Barack Obama. But no, your headline leads readers to believe that I’m supporting Mitt Romney at this time in this process, and no that’s not accurate."
Wow, she's really unhinged. /sarcasm
The Politico article doesn't say she yelled at anybody.
The Politico article doesn't say she called the Politico reporter over specifically to hear the telephone exchange.
Everybody's Favorite Eager Young Cub Reporter Pappas needs to grow a pair.
Mr. Hillyer needs to stop using his column to settle personal scores.
Posted by: Ken at August 16, 2011 07:34 AM (3ar4L)
Posted by: thescandimancan at August 16, 2011 07:42 AM (y4A+B)
Posted by: Ben (the original) at August 16, 2011 07:45 AM (SdAOt)
No, you do. Oh no, the precedent it might set, where the US goes around killing mass murderers of its citizenry willy-nilly!
You claim to "listen" as data goes in one ear and out the other. I've stated my sources repeatedly.
Your sources suck. Even Ron Paul doesn't believe in them, since he believes Bin Laden was in Pakistan and died during the nighttime raid.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 16, 2011 07:53 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: Dave at August 16, 2011 08:00 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Thresher at August 16, 2011 08:14 AM (PA3G
Because she was wrong. And when told she was wrong, refused to offer an apology.
To which you go, boo hoo, I get it, but this speaks to two things here.
1. As evidenced in this thread, there are a lot of conservatives out there who can't come to grips with the fact that yes, your beloved Mama Grizzly is not perfect and does make mistakes like this.
2. Whether you believe or accept it, there is a perception of her from some that she has a history of showing insensitivity to criticism or being thin-skinned. Not simply about the hardcore blood libel smears, I mean every perceived slight or insult, and this goes back to when she was governor of Alaska. That's a temperament that doesn't really work well for an executive. It's one of the reasons why Obama's "adult in the room" schtick is so laughable.
Posted by: Vyceroy at August 16, 2011 08:03 AM (mqy6N)
Posted by: Profiterole at August 16, 2011 08:12 AM (k4V8o)
It was not nice of Y not to post my email and it was not nice of the person who did that to the "curious" name. Most blogs have rules against posting a person's email address, I guess the haters here will stop at nothing.
That's ok though the email's being monitored and not by my friends.
Posted by: curious at August 16, 2011 08:17 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: curious at August 16, 2011 08:19 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2011 08:31 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2011 08:34 AM (GULKT)
You know what's funny? AoS contributors pontificating on proper behavior. You know what's pure comedy gold? AoS contributors pontificating on proper presidential behavior.
Posted by: Rich Fader at August 16, 2011 08:38 AM (SF/wy)
Posted by: mike at August 16, 2011 08:39 AM (/cyI7)
The attempt to smear anyone associated with this blog with the accusation that they put the email address in its signature line, when the opposite is true -- not so nice.
Posted by: Y-not at August 16, 2011 08:46 AM (5H6zj)
Second thought: somebody up there wrote that 'fellow conservatives' were bashing Palin so she probably was wrong.
'fellow conservatives' AoS = comedy gold
keep it comin
I'll stick with Sarah!
Posted by: Blacksmith8 at August 16, 2011 09:10 AM (QAP6P)
The Chitown clown brings a gun to a knife fight and Sarahcuda is gonna bring a bazooka. Good for her!
Its' gonna be a fun ride, get in, strap down and hang on cause you ain't seen nothin yet.
Just tell us when, Sarah we are ready, willing and able!
Kind a like Jon Kary "reporting for dooty"!
Posted by: Concealed Kerry or submit at August 16, 2011 09:14 AM (vXqv3)
Posted by: kansas at August 16, 2011 09:28 AM (mka2b)
Posted by: kansas at August 16, 2011 09:29 AM (mka2b)
Posted by: Vercingetorix at August 16, 2011 09:38 AM (wLl5o)
So the guy writes something based on someone else's work, doesn't do any research to verify, just repeats bullshit, and gets called on it? That's what you get for just copying stuff. Anybody with a brain would know that at this point in the game, no way is Palin supporting Missing Mittens. Seriously? Poor Pappas needs to get a clue and a new hankie.
As to the Perry comment - dude, who cares. Bernanke should be drawn and quartered just for his incompetence alone.
Posted by: California Curly at August 16, 2011 10:40 AM (8DdAv)
Just to clarify. I will in the future read all links before commenting. I feel like Toonces right about now - got the whole fucking wrong from the beginning!!
A, Palin should apologize personally, and B, does anybody else feel like they were drawn into a grade school bitch fight?
Oh, and C, he-who-has-balls-made-of-kryptonite can say whatever he wants about that ass-pokin' Bernanke. Incompetent fucker. If he was competent, he would have quit this administration a long time ago, like, on day three or something. Same with Timmy the turd.
Posted by: California Curly at August 16, 2011 09:51 AM (8DdAv)
Posted by: RJ at August 16, 2011 09:57 AM (QjrRF)
Palin should apologize personally because it's the right thing to do - whether you love her or hate her - that's the #1 rule in matureville.
I like Palin a lot, BTW, so anybody who's I'm-obsessively-in-love-with-Sarah-and-will-defend-her-no-matter-what needs to fucking chill.
This whole post is just like fucking teenage gossip. It's stoopid. Yet, here I am ... Gabe, you are an evil manipulator. Arrrrggggggghhhhhh ........
Posted by: California Curly Thinks Gabe is Eviil at August 16, 2011 10:04 AM (8DdAv)
Stupidest fucking thing I have read all day. When the media has gone out of its way for three years to label you with every smear in the universe, you are not "oversensitive", you've been conditioned. No public figure has taken the shit she has. Not ever. Grow the hell up, Gabe.
Posted by: Sgt. York at August 16, 2011 10:11 AM (qnBKy)
Well, maybe Andrew and Rachel Jackson.
Posted by: Kerry at August 16, 2011 10:15 AM (a/VXa)
I don't see Rachel being obsessively accused of faking a pregnancy.
Posted by: Sgt. York at August 16, 2011 10:24 AM (qnBKy)
Read how horrible she was:
"So you’re saying that I said that I support Mitt Romney?" she said to the reporter. "And what’s your headline? You need to be clear, otherwise people really lose faith in the state of journalists today and that is, I said ‘ABO’—anybody but Obama. And I would support the candidate who surfaces to take on Barack Obama. But no, your headline leads readers to believe that I’m supporting Mitt Romney at this time in this process, and no that’s not accurate."
Wow... I would be destroyed too... poor Alex Pappas. Once a fine young reporter with his whole life in front of him and now so totally broken down by these words from Sarah Palin that some other bloggers have come to his rescue to try to save his soul.
You know how many times I have seen the same story on The Daily Caller with edits and different headings and posted in different parts of the site? I have commented on a story in the morning and after returning a few hours later, find the same story under a different headline and in a different location.... without my comment...
so, I don't know if I would be believing The Daily Caller.... considering the fellow who wrote the original piece in The American Spectator is a full out Mitten supporter.
Me thinks they protest too much. Waaah Waaah
Posted by: PhilipJames at August 16, 2011 10:38 AM (G9AXq)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 16, 2011 10:46 AM (r4wIV)
Besides if Paul Ryan jumps on the bandwagon and christie or rubio as is rumored and rudy is willing to take VP, then it's all up for grabs. Heard rush for a short time today and he thinks the entrance of Perry signals a game changer since no one thought that mittens could be challenged. So now of course the field is going to open up and people who dared not challenge mittens and the hierarchy of the republican party all of a sudden are going to have second thoughts.
If I was Sarah, I'd take former VP nominee and media celebrity making the big bucks on speaking fees over failed presidential primary candidate any day.
Posted by: curious at August 16, 2011 11:23 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Tjexcite at August 16, 2011 11:42 AM (/QtpF)
There is nothing wrong with what Perry said. It is a bit extreme, but I fully agree with him. Assuming that Bernanke is not utterly incompetent, and that he knows what he is doing, to print more money would be just that, an act of incompetence at best, and an act of subversion at worst. Maybe not Treason, but close. Assuming he is not a fucking moron which he is from all appearances. Everyone that Prezident Urkel brought on board were left wing sycophants who would die if they had an originial idea and a cold drink of water. Of note is that when Perry says something he stands by it and defends it when called on it. Obama does not do either. He simply lies, mumbles, or ignores the entire matter. But he sure salutes pretty for publicity photos.
Posted by: USMC Steve at August 16, 2011 11:52 AM (zZae2)
Posted by: stfupalindrones at August 16, 2011 11:58 AM (g6f6y)
don't believe anything anymore.
Posted by: curious at August 16, 2011 12:00 PM (k1rwm)
See here: http://tinyurl.com/3rzlnfz
Gabriel is the one who seems to need to get a grip.
Posted by: Blake at August 16, 2011 12:20 PM (sil2X)
Posted by: stfupalindrones at August 16, 2011 03:58 PM (g6f6y)
You don't even know what my problems with Gabe's posting are idiot. Here's a hint, its not that he doesn't have a favorable view of Palin.
Posted by: buzzion at August 16, 2011 01:14 PM (GULKT)
Another Palin "controversy" completely evaporates upon further investigation.
What else is new.
You jumped too early, Gabe.
Going to correct it?
Posted by: Brian72 at August 16, 2011 01:23 PM (yhJiT)
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Posted by: Thorvald at August 16, 2011 07:07 PM (OhenJ)
Once again, the lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes...
Posted by: ChuckTX at August 17, 2011 12:59 AM (Ugob2)
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