July 27, 2011

Paul Krugman and the NYT Hate Moderates With a White-Hot Hateyness
— Dave in Texas

When a liberal tells moderates "you bastards are killing this country", you have to find a way to get his message out.

It's not the conservative knuckledraggers now, nope. It's the uncommitted, apolitical types, who think left and right are equally right (or wrong).

Sweet. (link to NYT Krugman desperation whine)

Granted he's actually pissing on the media, that's really what this is about. Some WH correspondents didn't toe the line, they had the temerity to challenge the President's spokespuke, and that just cannot be tolerated.

Because in our system, the liberal-leaning MF-media must never, ever give credit to the other side for looking reasonable, with their stupid plans, and their numbers, and facts and stuff. Not when Krugman's boyfriend comes to the podium with his, adult-looking aloofness.

via Allahpundit

Unrelated, from the sidebar: Teamsters threaten to cut off Ohio's Budweiser supply. That's not much of a threat anywhere except Ohio. [via Jay in Ames]

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 06:00 AM | Comments (162)
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1

They're all related.

As if they were reading my mindÂ…

Good luck putting legs on this story!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 27, 2011 06:03 AM (jx2j9)

2

Reminds me of the old joke:

When you think everyone else in the room is an asshole - YOU are the asshole.

Posted by: rockmom at July 27, 2011 06:07 AM (lSyyU)

3 Maybe el Jeffe needs to address the nation.. this is apparently a simple messaging problem.  Once our Dear Leader 'splains it to us properly, we can all fall in line.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at July 27, 2011 06:07 AM (f9c2L)

4 Is this like living in Alaska in the spring and you start hearing the ice crack?  I'm analogy-impaired.

Posted by: scooter at July 27, 2011 06:08 AM (aamim)

5 Fortunately for them, facts and numbers and stuff make lousy soundbites.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at July 27, 2011 06:10 AM (p+mzQ)

6 Not going to read the Krugman link,  if brain cells are to die I would prefer to do it with scotch.

Posted by: Bob Saget at July 27, 2011 06:11 AM (F/4zf)

7 Let them cut it off, its a foreign beer anyway. After which the Ohio congress should outlaw the teamsters.

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 06:13 AM (M9Ie6)

8

Bless you, Dave, for writing "toe the line" instead of "tow."

And yeah- Krugman, NYT, pineapple, sideways, etc.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at July 27, 2011 06:13 AM (SCcgT)

9 Oh also, Krugman is a communist nobody with a brain believes a single thing he says anymore.

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 06:13 AM (M9Ie6)

10 Krugman is such a useless, commie piece of shit I can't come up with anything to say about this waste of natural resources. The difference between us and krugman concearning the media, is that when his libtard media gets sick of the Presidents shit and they actually seem upset, conservatives say "look, look, the media is almost doing its job" When Rove and Kruathammer decide to destroy the GOP from the inside through their liberal light, progressive, I want to keep my invite to the cocktail party circuit games, Krugman doesn't acknowledge them at all, and that's just not fair.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at July 27, 2011 06:14 AM (ZDUD4)

11 CTRL+ALT+DEL

It's time.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 27, 2011 06:15 AM (KxyHe)

12

[4 Is this like living in Alaska in the spring and you start hearing the ice crack? ]

Yeah, except you're standing on it.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at July 27, 2011 06:15 AM (SCcgT)

13 BUDWEISER???!!!!...FUCK THAT SHIT!...PABST, BLUE, RIBBON!

Posted by: Frank Booth at July 27, 2011 06:16 AM (CLvJy)

14 BUDWEISER???!!!!...FUCK THAT SHIT!...PABST, BLUE, RIBBON!

Shiner, baby.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 27, 2011 06:16 AM (KxyHe)

15

>> Bless you, Dave, for writing "toe the line" instead of "tow."

 

Thas how I learnt it, as a kid in Alabama public schools... "puttin your toe on the line".

After school we made moonshine and fucked bears.

Posted by: Dave in Texas at July 27, 2011 06:17 AM (WvXvd)

16 Milwaukee's Best?

Posted by: EC at July 27, 2011 06:17 AM (GQ8sn)

17 Budweiser is like seltzer with a hint of beer flavor, much like other flavored seltzers. In all seriousness, Anheuser Busch should just use non-union drivers and tell the Teamsters to go piss up a rope. Yeah, dangerous, but I am sick and tired of unions being one of the leftist pillars of nation-destruction. The hell with them.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2011 06:17 AM (UlUS4)

18 Krugman is a poster child for syphilitic mania.

Posted by: Anonymoose at July 27, 2011 06:17 AM (ZgvjV)

19 Call me when I can't get my Yuengling.

Posted by: yinzer at July 27, 2011 06:18 AM (/Mla1)

20 OT but that pic of Moochelle over at Drudge is...um...shall I say, less than feminine.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 27, 2011 06:19 AM (EIlEQ)

21 Dos Equis.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at July 27, 2011 06:19 AM (ZDUD4)

22 Teamsters threaten to cut off Ohio's Budweiser supply

This means war.

Posted by: toby928™ at July 27, 2011 06:21 AM (GTbGH)

23 At least the Teamsters aren't going to shut down the flow of illegal aliens are they. After all someone's got to do the jobs that americans aren't trained to do or something. And drink all that mescal. screw budweiser, pulque sales go thru the roof, baby. And how about some RICO charges if they try this shit? Oh, sorry ... forgot ... our chief legal guy is trying too hard to stay out of the grinder on the whole "giving weapons to mexican gang thingy".

Posted by: Mephitis at July 27, 2011 06:21 AM (M5rQi)

24 Shiner, baby.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 27, 2011 10:16 AM

Shiner Bock, baby.  Also, Shiner Blonde.

Posted by: huerfano at July 27, 2011 06:22 AM (aZLY2)

25 Teamsters threaten to cut off Ohio's Budweiser supply People with no taste buds hardest hit.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at July 27, 2011 06:22 AM (ZDUD4)

26 -102.21 (-0.82%)

Ouch.

Posted by: DJIA at July 27, 2011 06:22 AM (GTbGH)

27 AllenG

Amen to the Shiner!  If it weren't for Shiner, I never would have developed a taste for beer.

Posted by: Are We Having Fun Yeti at July 27, 2011 06:22 AM (O7Q1u)

28 The Krugman piece is typical, but the comments are priceless. The typical NYT commenter might be stupider than Krugman, and that is impressively stupid indeed!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 27, 2011 06:22 AM (LH6ir)

29 18 Krugman is a poster child for syphilitic mania. Posted by: Anonymoose at July 27, 2011 10:17 AM (ZgvjV) Like the old Saturday Night Live skit with Garret Morris as Idi "V.D." Amin. Heh.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2011 06:22 AM (UlUS4)

30 I talked to my local liquor store owner the other night.  He says sales are down this year 10 to 15%.

My tenants are experiencing similar drops in gross sales.

Why can't the govt just make an across the board cut of 5%???

Is that so hard?  Why yes, it probably it, because federal, state and local govt public union salaries have to, by contract, increase 2-4% per year.  And their health care plans cost more, every year, and their pensions need to be funded, every year.

Yet, according to Obama we need to share the sacrifice.

Posted by: Jack at July 27, 2011 06:24 AM (8IAHO)

31 Fuck Budweiser

Posted by: laceyunderalls - Miller Lite Gal at July 27, 2011 06:25 AM (pLTLS)

32 Ah, see, that's how bad my analogies are; I thought I was talking about how - finally - the media are starting to discover what most people who are paying attention already know about this administration.

My analogy is apparently an even better one for a different point than the one I was trying to make.

Posted by: scooter at July 27, 2011 06:25 AM (aamim)

33 Shiner Bock is excellent. Wish we had it up here in NYC. Just have to go down to Hill country and get some bbq at Salt Lick to boot! NYC at one point had almost a dozen local breweries. Ruppert's, Knickerbocker, Rheingold, Trommer's to name a few. All are long gone.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2011 06:25 AM (UlUS4)

34

>>Because in our system, the liberal-leaning

 

Leaning?  Really?  They're just a tiny bit more liberal than an unbiased centrist?

Posted by: Terry at July 27, 2011 06:26 AM (+7Usq)

35 Hmmm, post just disappeared.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2011 06:27 AM (UOM48)

36 Don't worry, fellow Ohioans, Yuengling is finally coming to our great state.

Posted by: Rich at July 27, 2011 06:27 AM (wnGI4)

37 Yay, beer wars!

Posted by: Jay in Ames at July 27, 2011 06:27 AM (UEEex)

38 Krugman and Obama; poster children for the meaninglessness of the Nobel Prize.  From now on, people who win it will be reluctant to admit it out of embarrassment.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 27, 2011 06:27 AM (jx2j9)

39

<i>When you think everyone else in the room is an asshole - YOU are the asshole.</i>

Wow. Are you certain?

You've given me a great deal to think about. A great deal...

Posted by: spongeworthy at July 27, 2011 06:28 AM (rplL3)

40 Markets committing suicide again.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 27, 2011 06:29 AM (jx2j9)

41 CTRL+ALT+DEL

It's time.

That's CTRL+ALT+BACKSP for you linux users.

Posted by: nickless at July 27, 2011 06:30 AM (MMC8r)

42 That's CTRL+ALT+BACKSP for you linux users.

Wait.  People actually use Linux?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 27, 2011 06:31 AM (KxyHe)

43 Give me a coupla six packs of Budweiser, and  an  hour or two--then send Krugman my way and I'll recycle some of that beer in Krugman's pretty little shell like ear.  Of course that won't hold it all, so I might have to splash some extra around.   What a doofus that guy is.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at July 27, 2011 06:32 AM (3ESDJ)

44 Unrelated, from the sidebar: Teamsters threaten to cut off Ohio's Budweiser supply. Sounds like it verges on restraint of trade. I'm sure the union is being a bit more subtle than that.

Posted by: fluffy at July 27, 2011 06:32 AM (4Kl5M)

45 "When you think everyone else in the room is an asshole - YOU are the asshole." or you are visiting the DNC.

Posted by: Anonymoose at July 27, 2011 06:33 AM (ZgvjV)

46 Markets committing suicide again.

I'm completely Honey Badger about that.

Mostly because they haven't acted rational in at least 2 years- so I don't find them a good indicator of anything any more.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 27, 2011 06:33 AM (KxyHe)

47 This just in:
Beechwood aging causes cancer!

Posted by: Proudvastrightwingconspirator at July 27, 2011 06:34 AM (hyRD4)

48 Posted by: fluffy at July 27, 2011 10:32 AM (4Kl5M)

Depends on how they're doing it.  If they're just refusing to drive Budweiser trucks, I don't see how that's "restraint of trade."  Budweiser could hire someone else to drive those trucks (in theory) or get office types to do it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 27, 2011 06:34 AM (KxyHe)

49

No Bud here in Ohio?

Wouldn't miss it. Unless the rice drinkers move to real beer and run it short.  Gotta go .. need to stock up.

Posted by: John Lynch at July 27, 2011 06:36 AM (QAiBB)

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 27, 2011 06:37 AM (jx2j9)

51 So I heard that the CBO scored Reid's plan better than Boehner's..is this true?

Posted by: Rich at July 27, 2011 06:38 AM (wnGI4)

52

Bless you, Dave, for writing "toe the line" instead of "tow."

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at July 27, 2011 10:13 AM (SCcgT)

"A" to the "Men."  Rule 12: It's the simple things, that when done right, make life enjoyable, and when done incorrectly, cause stabbing pains behind the eye, cause tics to develop, and promote apoplectic conniption fits.  Well done, sir.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Grammar Patrol at July 27, 2011 06:38 AM (4q5tP)

53 Shiner Bock, baby.  Also, Shiner Blonde.

Posted by: huerfano at July 27, 2011 10:22 AM (aZLY2)

I'm a Shiner Bock fan but this weekend had a Shiner Ruby Redbird that was very disappointing in that it had almost no taste.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 27, 2011 06:39 AM (zsvKP)

54 In the future, everyone will hate Budweiser for fifteen minutes.

Posted by: Andy Warhol at July 27, 2011 06:39 AM (GGEUV)

55 When you think you are the smartest guy in the room, you are the most stupid guy in the room.

Posted by: Note to Obama at July 27, 2011 06:40 AM (8IAHO)

56 Ohio should vote in right to work if they already have it. That will take care of the teamsters.

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 06:41 AM (M9Ie6)

57 Pina Coladas.

WAY better than beer.

Posted by: Note to Obama at July 27, 2011 06:41 AM (8IAHO)

58 At this point, how does anyone view Krugman as anything more than a cartoon caricature?  The man is a wild-eyed, fire-breathing, super-genius lunatic hell-bent on world domination, - facilitated by his unnatural powers of whining and gnashing of teeth.

Posted by: Fritz at July 27, 2011 06:41 AM (/ZZCn)

59 Whoa. Buckeye morons had better start stacking some cases of brew in the basement. Baseball season heating up, football season starting -- you just can't take the chance of not having a cold one.

Posted by: joncelli at July 27, 2011 06:42 AM (RD7QR)

60

Posted by: laceyunderalls - Miller Lite Gal at July 27, 2011 10:25 AM (pLTLS)

Hello Chemjeff!

As for me, I'll be on my front porch, with my Old E 800.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at July 27, 2011 06:42 AM (3ORju)

61 Spoetzl Brewery.  God blessed Texas.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 27, 2011 06:42 AM (rRkN5)

62 If the DON'T have it dman.

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 06:43 AM (M9Ie6)

63 Hey did everyone see the hit piece yahoo did on Bachmann?

She's apparently responsible for all the suicides in her district as she doesn't dust off her pom-poms for anti-bullying legislation.

They sunk so low as to cite Mother Jones in the lead paragraph.

Parasitic 'reporters'.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at July 27, 2011 06:43 AM (pLTLS)

64

Blessed are the children for they shall inherit the debt.

 

Posted by: Meremortal at July 27, 2011 06:43 AM (7FgWm)

65 Shiner Bock is excellent. Wish we had it up here in NYC. Just have to go down to Hill country and get some bbq at Salt Lick Kreuz Market in Lockhart to boot!
 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2011 10:25 AM

Fixed.

Posted by: huerfano at July 27, 2011 06:43 AM (aZLY2)

66 By the way, do any morons make their own wine? Is it hard?

Posted by: joncelli at July 27, 2011 06:43 AM (RD7QR)

67 If the DON'T have it dman.

Posted by: Vic

 

 

hahahahahahaaa F

Posted by: Terry at July 27, 2011 06:43 AM (+7Usq)

68 Do they still drink Hudepohl in Cincinnati?  I remember going to Reds games as a kid seeing those Hudies everywhere.

Posted by: rockmom at July 27, 2011 06:44 AM (lSyyU)

69

I would pay good money to hear the spin that a dozen or so politicians would put on this.  Either party – wouldnÂ’t matter.

Pure comedy would be my bet.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 27, 2011 06:44 AM (jx2j9)

70  Root Beer

Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2011 06:44 AM (9sfYe)

71

I've made an executive decision to go fishing on the Colorado River today, as the Caddis hatch is on. Eat your livers, working stiffs. 

 

Posted by: Meremortal at July 27, 2011 06:44 AM (7FgWm)

72 Hello Chemjeff!

Nuh huh. I don't drink at Applebee's.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at July 27, 2011 06:45 AM (pLTLS)

73 NYC at one point had almost a dozen local breweries. Ruppert's, Knickerbocker, Rheingold, Trommer's to name a few. All are long gone.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 27, 2011 10:25 AM (UlUS4)

You still have Brooklyn Brewery...right?

Posted by: rabidsquirrel at July 27, 2011 06:45 AM (RuF8n)

74 Posted by: laceyunderalls at July 27, 2011 10:43 AM (pLTLS)

She is advancing in the polls so the "Palinization" will grow fierce. They will start on Perry here soon as well.

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 06:46 AM (M9Ie6)

75

47 Markets committing suicide again.

It's Michelle Bachmann's fault.

Posted by: yinzer at July 27, 2011 06:46 AM (/Mla1)

76 David Burge Yielding to congressional pressure McDonalds adds apples, David Wu's phone number to Happy Meals

Mika on AM Joe was crowing about McDonald's adding apples to their Happy Meals.  "French fries are poison!!!1111!!!!"

Here's a thought, you stupid twit.  You don't like them, don't eat them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2011 06:46 AM (UOM48)

77 This is the clearest, starkest situation one can imagine short of civil war. If this wonÂ’t do it, nothing will.

Krugman calling for civil war?

Posted by: cherry π at July 27, 2011 06:46 AM (OhYCU)

78  The man is a wild-eyed, fire-breathing, super-genius lunatic hell-bent on world domination, - facilitated by his unnatural powers of whining and gnashing of teeth.

Posted by: Fritz at July 27, 2011 10:41 AM (/ZZCn)

You forgot glittering jewel of colossal ignorance

Posted by: Red Shirt at July 27, 2011 06:46 AM (FIDMq)

79 CTRL+ALT+DEL It's time. Or if you're a Mac user, just take your machine into the Genius Bar and have one of the black tshirted soulpatch Steve Jobs balldusters do it for you, because you probably don't know what that means. I mean, what - pfft! I don't want to be a programmer! I just want to spend $2,000 (well, actually $4,500 since I'm financing it) so I can watch YouTube clips! It just works! Obviously, Apple fags are running this country.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, EXXXTREMIST at July 27, 2011 06:46 AM (lbo6/)

80 By the way, do any morons make their own wine? Is it hard?

I used to know a guy in GA who made his own scupperdine wine. It is not very hard and it is legal as well.


Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 06:47 AM (M9Ie6)

81 Krugman calling for civil war?

Posted by: cherry π at July 27, 2011 10:46 AM (OhYCU)

That bastard!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 27, 2011 06:47 AM (jx2j9)

82 81 By the way, do any morons make their own wine? Is it hard?

I used to know a guy in GA who made his own scupperdine wine. It is not very hard and it is legal as well.

Years ago, my dad actually grew his own grapes (in SC) and made wine. 

It was......awful. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2011 06:49 AM (UOM48)

83

Krugman and Friedman - the hysterical leftist loser twins.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at July 27, 2011 06:49 AM (0fzsA)

84 Mika on AM Joe was crowing about McDonald's adding apples to their Happy Meals.

YOU COULD ALWAYS GET THE FREAKIN' APPLES WITH HAPPY MEALS!  THESE DUMBASSES DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT!

Posted by: nickless at July 27, 2011 06:50 AM (MMC8r)

85 Dos Equus. Posted by: SJP at July 27, 2011 10:39 AM (LK0O9) Oh, WELL PLAYED, sir. Well. Played.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, EXXXTREMIST at July 27, 2011 06:50 AM (lbo6/)

86 Pundits and anchors on the Left have gone full retard.  Every day they dehumanize us, and soften up their fellow travelers.

Posted by: cherry π at July 27, 2011 06:51 AM (OhYCU)

87 Hehe. File under Things I Thought I'd Never See: Boehner and Cantor just walked by microphones without saying a word. CNBC hardest hit as they had a camera all set up, and got nothin'. They're now calling it Developing.

Posted by: Retread at July 27, 2011 06:52 AM (G+7cD)

88 Hehe. File under Things I Thought I'd Never See: Boehner and Cantor just walked by microphones without saying a word. CNBC hardest hit as they had a camera all set up, and got nothin'. They're now calling it Developing.

Posted by: Retread at July 27, 2011 10:52 AM (G+7cD)

Where's JEF?  He's never met a mic he doesn't like. 

Posted by: yinzer at July 27, 2011 06:53 AM (/Mla1)

89 Who let the Krugs out? Who, Who?

Posted by: MisterMoney at July 27, 2011 06:53 AM (wN82N)

90 Wait a minute.  If you want to read the lowest possible sludge from the lowest circle of Clown Hell, then check out Tom Friedman's latest column (link at HA).

Excerpt (emphasis mine):

Alas, that is the Tea Party. It is so lacking in any aspiration for American greatness, so dominated by the narrowest visions for our country and so ignorant of the fact that it was not tax cuts that made America great but our unique public-private partnerships across the generations. If sane Republicans do not stand up to this Hezbollah faction in their midst, the Tea Party will take the G.O.P. on a suicide mission.

Posted by: mrp at July 27, 2011 06:53 AM (HjPtV)

91 Geez, no mention of the atmosphere of intimidation and hate created by the presence of Sarah Palin. Krugman must be slipping. Does this mean that Krugman and his gimp Pinch have abandoned their strategy of dehumanizing the Tea Party and now are fully engaged in stripping independents of their basic humanity? Illiberal statists are so funny when revealed to be mentally slow. NY knuckledraggers. Oh yeah, knuckledraggers with Nobels. Those Norwegians really know genius when they see it.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at July 27, 2011 06:54 AM (0M3AQ)

92 Obama: We're working on gun control 'under the radar'These deserve to be famous last words.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 27, 2011 06:54 AM (jx2j9)

93 It was......awful. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2011 10:49 AM (UOM4

An awful lot depends on the soil and the type of grape. Those scupperdine grapes made some pretty good wine. If the soil and grape type is not good sometimes you can use sugar to "sweeten" it up (plus it increases the alcohol content).

The best local wines (Muscadine) that I have found for this area are not in SC. But they are close by in Duplin, NC.

Duplin Winery

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 06:54 AM (M9Ie6)

94

Where's JEF?  He's never met a mic he doesn't like. 

Posted by: yinzer at July 27, 2011 10:53 AM (/Mla1)

Isn't there a saying about Shoomer 'Never get between a camera and Chuck, likely to get trampled'

Posted by: Red Shirt at July 27, 2011 06:55 AM (FIDMq)

95 A bit of good news: Dunkin Donuts is up 35% from its' IPO price. Started trading this morning, if I heard the talking heads correctly.

Posted by: Retread at July 27, 2011 06:55 AM (G+7cD)

96

81

It is easy to make wine, anyone can do it.

It is not easy to make good wine, hardly anone can do it.  

 

Posted by: MisterMoney at July 27, 2011 06:58 AM (wN82N)

97

What's the difference between the GOP and the Taliban?

The Obama Administration is willing to negotiate in good faith with the Taliban.

Posted by: Truman North at July 27, 2011 06:59 AM (G5JPI)

98 Actual list of beers threatened by a Heidelberg Distributing strike:

Ayinger, Bass, Beck's, Boddington's, Celebrator, Corona, Duvel, Genesee, Goose Island, Guinness, Kirin, Labatt's, Lindeman's, Lone Star, Michelob, Newcastle, Old Milwaukee, Orval Trappist, Pabst, Pacifico, Paulaner, Red Hook, Rogue, Rollin Rock, Sam Adams, Samuel Smith, St Pauli Girl, Stella Artois, Stroh's, Tsingtao, Warsteiner.

I like a good Bud joke as well as the next guy (Hey! Have they replaced the Clydesdales with Belgians yet? Get it?) but allofasudden this ain't so funny atall.

Posted by: comatus at July 27, 2011 06:59 AM (W5ilH)

99 Read the comments..the kook left thinks that Obama isn't Left enough. Nothing short of complete fascism will mollify them. Funny thing is, they actually complain of the uneducated masses. As if 90% of their base isn't, ahem, doing them a favor by being that way.

Posted by: Bruceinsocal at July 27, 2011 07:00 AM (J6hTO)

100 84

Krugman and Friedman - the hysterical leftist loser twins.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at July 27, 2011 10:49 AM (0fzsA)

I've decided they are proponents of the Deus Ex Machina school of economics...

They are literaly thinking some offstage event, will solve all the problems they have gotten themselves, and us, into.....

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 27, 2011 07:00 AM (NtXW4)

101 By the way, do any morons make their own wine? Is it hard?

Wine is harder than beer.  IMO it's difficult to make a wine that is better than a $5 bottle of one of the local Texas brands but in just a few months you can acquire the skill to make beer as good or better than the best imported German beers.

Posted by: Bob Saget at July 27, 2011 07:01 AM (F/4zf)

102 Heh.  Iowahawk's been on fire:

David Burge In the last 2 years, the Democrats have produced 1 Massa, 1 Weiner, 1 Wu, and 0 budgets.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at July 27, 2011 07:01 AM (UOM48)

103 I like a good Bud joke as well as the next guy (Hey! Have they replaced the Clydesdales with Belgians yet? Get it?) but allofasudden this ain't so funny atall.

Breaker, breaker! Calling Smoking and the Bandit!

Posted by: Retread at July 27, 2011 07:01 AM (G+7cD)

104

99 Actual list of beers threatened by a Heidelberg Distributing strike:

Ayinger, Bass, Beck's, Boddington's, Celebrator, Corona, Duvel, Genesee, Goose Island, Guinness, Kirin, Labatt's, Lindeman's, Lone Star, Michelob, Newcastle, Old Milwaukee, Orval Trappist, Pabst, Pacifico, Paulaner, Red Hook, Rogue, Rollin Rock, Sam Adams, Samuel Smith, St Pauli Girl, Stella Artois, Stroh's, Tsingtao, Warsteiner.

Samuel Adams? Now that is unacceptable! This strike must be broken immediately.

Oops, wait, I live in Michigan, never mind.

Posted by: MisterMoney at July 27, 2011 07:02 AM (wN82N)

105

We morons could really make a significant impact on this debt/deficit situation if we would just collectively agree to all sell our corporate jets.

C'mon team!  Whatayasay?

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 27, 2011 07:02 AM (jx2j9)

106 "The reality, of course, is that we already have a centrist president — actually a moderate conservative president."


Posted by: Jo at July 27, 2011 07:03 AM (PIahf)

107 Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 10:54 AM (M9Ie6)

I just tasted Virginia wine for the first time. I was shocked at how good it was.

Barboursville Viognier.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 27, 2011 07:04 AM (LH6ir)

108

 Celebrator,

 

Now that's a fuckin' beer.

Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2011 07:04 AM (9sfYe)

109 Didn't Ohio vote for Obozo?

They can go o-thirsty.

Posted by: F--- Nevada! (I'm AoSHQ's DarkLord©, and I approve this message) at July 27, 2011 07:04 AM (GBXon)

110 A moderate conservative president? Give me a freaking break. Better yet, give me a nickel so I can buy you a freaking clue.

Posted by: JoeInMD at July 27, 2011 07:04 AM (PIahf)

111 Wine is harder than beer.

I don't think wine is harder than beer, but I have never made beer. I would think beer is also more expensive to make since you must buy almost all of the materials.

As for "good" wine, as I said to Jane, it depends on the soil conditions and the type of grapes used.

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 07:05 AM (M9Ie6)

112 Spoetzl Brewery.  God blessed Texas.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at July 27, 2011 10:42 AM (rRkN5)

My friends find it odd that the greatest cultural, fine arts,trade hub, residential and recreational urban pinnacle, teeming with the vibrancy of a critical mass of enlightened cool people, pulsing with more awesomeness than the universe has ever seen or ever will see, which of course is NYC, was not similarly blessed.  Ergo, there is no god.

Posted by: A Synonym For Peculiar at July 27, 2011 07:06 AM (4q5tP)

113 Screw the MSM.  Screw Unions.  Screw Obama.  That's about it.

Posted by: katya, defender of the unpretties at July 27, 2011 07:06 AM (Dc7bV)

114 99 Actual list of beers threatened by a Heidelberg Distributing strike:

Ayinger, Bass, Beck's, Boddington's, Celebrator, Corona, Duvel, Genesee, Goose Island, Guinness, Kirin, Labatt's, Lindeman's, Lone Star, Michelob, Newcastle, Old Milwaukee, Orval Trappist, Pabst, Pacifico, Paulaner, Red Hook, Rogue, Rollin Rock, Sam Adams, Samuel Smith, St Pauli Girl, Stella Artois, Stroh's, Tsingtao, Warsteiner.

I like a good Bud joke as well as the next guy (Hey! Have they replaced the Clydesdales with Belgians yet? Get it?) but allofasudden this ain't so funny atall.

Posted by: comatus at July 27, 2011 10:59 AM (W5ilH)

Now it's civil war. Krugman is getting his wish after all.

Posted by: KG at July 27, 2011 07:06 AM (LD21B)

115 We have a crisis in which the right is making insane demands, while the president and Democrats in Congress are bending over backward to be accommodating — offering plans that are all spending cuts and no taxes, plans that are far to the right of public opinion.

Paul lost me here ... what f-ing plans are those .. jack-wad ?

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at July 27, 2011 07:06 AM (e8kgV)

116 Wait.  People actually use Linux?

Only to do actual work.

Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at July 27, 2011 07:06 AM (JEvSn)

117 I just tasted Virginia wine for the first time. I was shocked at how good it was.

Barboursville Viognier.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 27, 2011 11:04 AM (LH6ir)

Early start!  WTG!  Hoisting the Moron banner high!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 27, 2011 07:06 AM (jx2j9)

118

Do they still drink Hudepohl in Cincinnati?  I remember going to Reds games as a kid seeing those Hudies everywhere.

------

They do, I'm just not sure if they still actually make Huedepohl in Cincy. Just recently a carry-out where I live started getting Hudepohl again (after a long, long time..like decades). But, not sure where it's made exactly.

Posted by: Rich at July 27, 2011 07:07 AM (wnGI4)

119 Wait a minute.  If you want to read the lowest possible sludge from the lowest circle of Clown Hell, then check out Tom Friedman's latest column (link at HA).

Posted by: mrp at July 27, 2011 10:53 AM (HjPtV)

Flathead must've guzzled a lot of laced-with-lead Chinese jizz to come up with that parody of an op-ed.  Pinch must be so proud.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 27, 2011 07:07 AM (zsvKP)

120 I just tasted Virginia wine for the first time. I was shocked at how good it was.

You can thank Thomas Jefferson for that. He convinced an Italian vintner to lcoate in VA near Monticello.

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 07:08 AM (M9Ie6)

121 67 By the way, do any morons make their own wine? Is it hard?   Yes, no, and not only is it fun, averaging it out over the long run it's cheaper and better quality. For my upcoming wedding, I am making some wine and some meade which adds a nice personal touch to boot.

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at July 27, 2011 07:08 AM (oW269)

122 109 "The reality, of course, is that we already have a centrist president — actually a moderate conservative president."


Posted by: Jo at July 27, 2011 11:03 AM (PIahf)

Hmmm... if you take the Political position of Washington as the baseline, you could be correct.... after all, even a screaming leftist fucktard thinks they are reasonable and most people HAVE to think like them... thus making them 'normal' or 'centrist'...

Its like if you are on a ruler... on the 2 inch mark... someone sitting on the ONE inch mark could think of you are more centrist than them...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 27, 2011 07:09 AM (NtXW4)

123

I have been to Kreuz Market. Stuff is good.

American Budweiser tongues donkey balls. The original stuff in Europe? Very good.

I believe that Bud isn't even the King of Beers in Missouri anymore, Boulevard rules the nest. And their new pilsner beer? Amazing.

A lot of fine beer does come from Texas though. Shiner is good, but I really enjoy a lot of the St. Arnold stuff. And I drink Lone Star simply out of principle. The cans are great, they say Remember and then have a picture of the Alamo right beneath that. Awesome!

Posted by: Lord Humungus at July 27, 2011 07:11 AM (Yv6gq)

124

Shiner Bock is excellent. Wish we had it up here in NYC. Just have to go down to Hill country and get some bbq at Salt Lick to boot!

You've just described my Saturday, JJ. Blackened brisket, beef ribs are in muh future.

Also, Shiner Smokehaus complements anything bbq'd amazingly well.

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at July 27, 2011 07:11 AM (tk5O7)

125 Scuppernongs (we call them that up here) are voluminous and foxy. That sweet lining in the skin tastes like lacquer thinner after fermentation. They make a good light, sweet ("May") wine, but are unsuitable, as are Niagaras, for drier wines. So, you stop the fermentation early and drink it the hell up. Maybe with  a little woodruff spice in it. They can be made into a sweet spumante, but my god it's dangerous. Not for the faint of heart.

There are many hybrid grapes developed in New York state that will produce a decent dry red. I grow Foch, deChaunac and Chambourcin near Lake Erie, and have had some success. Also a lot of failure.

Posted by: comatus at July 27, 2011 07:12 AM (W5ilH)

126 Paul Krugman is the definition of hate speech.  Put his picture in the dictionary.  And someone please get his medication adjusted.

Posted by: Ago Solvo at July 27, 2011 07:13 AM (k8JkR)

127 I would think beer is also more expensive

My kitchen now is too small to brew so my prices may be outdated, but I used to make 5 gallons (2 cases) of primo awesome dark beer for the cost of a 2 cases of horse piss.  Would really like to start up again but in larger, say 30 gallon batches.

Posted by: Bob Saget at July 27, 2011 07:13 AM (F/4zf)

128 Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 11:05 AM (M9Ie6)

Beer is fairly straightforward. Just follow the recipe. And with good hygiene the odds of a problem are small. But wine tends to be aged longer (exposed to bad stuff), and doesn't have the benefits of carbonation to act as a preservative, so making a good wine can be difficult. Plus the sugar, acid and tannin levels in grapes vary tremendously year to year, as opposed to beer, where the sugar content can be controlled easily.

Making a good beer just takes a bit of practice. Making good wine takes lots of practice, a bit of luck, excellent raw materials, and usually a larger investment.

But the best part of making beer is that the results are available in a few weeks, rather than having to wait for the wine for months or years!

Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy
 -- Benjamin Franklin

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 27, 2011 07:13 AM (LH6ir)

129

I love it how Krugman calls Obama a "moderate conservative president".  Does Krugman live in some bizarro version of the Star Trek mirror universe?

On the off-topic topic of Beermageddon in Ohio, it's worth noting that there's an A-B brewery in Columbus, so there's no danger of the supply running low in Ohio, it's putely a question of distribution within the state--I'm sure some enterprising private citizens can find ways to take advantage of the situation should the Teamsters strike take place.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at July 27, 2011 07:14 AM (s3JuV)

130 My favorite American beer is Yuengling. What I drink most of the time is love in a canoe beer; Coors Light. So why that? Because it is cheaper without going into to the truly awful shit. And besides, mostly when I drink beer I am driving the lawn tractor and it impossible to get drunk off of love in a canoe beer.

After the tractor I then usually move to bourbon with beer chaser. 

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 07:15 AM (M9Ie6)

131 *He convinced an Italian vintner to lcoate in VA near Monticello.*

Where the wine mostly failed because Virginia soil is shitty for the Italian method.  VA wine didn't get good until vintners began trying other grapes and patterning the French.  MA actually has some decent wines too.

Posted by: Filly at July 27, 2011 07:16 AM (1y5hA)

132 Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 11:08 AM (M9Ie6)

Yes, but he owned slaves, so everything he did is suspect...including the Declaration of Independence.

Posted by: Progressive on the short bus at July 27, 2011 07:17 AM (LH6ir)

133 Posted by: comatus at July 27, 2011 11:12 AM (W5ilH)

I have heard them called that down here as well. Why is making champagne dangerous? Exploding bottles?

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 07:17 AM (M9Ie6)

134 ... while the president and Democrats in Congress are ...

Notice anything odd ?   a lower-case "president" ?
"Democrats" and "Congress" get capital letters, but not "president".

Hey Paul, why not just call him "Pres**ent" ??

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at July 27, 2011 07:18 AM (e8kgV)

135 I find men like Krugman and Obama quite a curiosity.  Here are two famous and powerful men who have gotten that way by basically being wrong about everything.

Everything they do or suggests fails, and yet they are held out as experts and go-to-guys.

Remarkable.

The lessons to be learned here as follows:

1) It matters more how you say something than what you say.  f you say something everyone knows is not true but say it with confidence and a oratory prowess, people will believe that over something they hear which they know to be true yet isn't delivered as well.
2. No matter how badly your idea fails, behave as if it succeeded.

I think a great campaign message in 2012 to defeat Obama would be as follows:

"If Obama were a plumber and the US Economy where your pipes, would you hire him again and recommend him to your friends?"

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at July 27, 2011 07:19 AM (uVlA4)

136

"The reality, of course, is that we already have a centrist president — actually a moderate conservative president."

Ugh- if someone gave that drooling putz half a clue he'd still be 3 clues short of a quarter clue. And the new yark times is losing money in buckets- such a shockah.

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at July 27, 2011 07:19 AM (tk5O7)

137 @132, he said that about wine, not beer.

FWIW, Yuengling ("Yank-lank") purchased an unused Coors brewery in Memphis[!] and is now available in Georgia and Tennessee. Supposed to be coming to Ohio soon. Sure hope it's not via Heidelberg.

Posted by: comatus at July 27, 2011 07:20 AM (W5ilH)

138 118 We have a crisis in which the right is making insane demands, while the president and Democrats in Congress are bending over backward to be accommodating — offering plans that are all spending cuts and no taxes, plans that are far to the right of public opinion.

Paul lost me here ... what f-ing plans are those .. jack-wad ?

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at July 27, 2011 11:06 AM (e8kgV)

Wow, you made it pretty far. This is where he lost me: "And no, I donÂ’t mean the fanaticism of the right. Well, OK, that too. But my feeling about those people is that they are what they are; you might as well denounce wolves for being carnivores. Crazy is what they do and what they are."

Also, from the paragraph you cite: Democrats are offering "plans that are far to the right of public opinion." Really? You mean the public that shellacked the left in the midterms, and elected hundreds of conservatives to counter the "moderate conservative president" doing his "moderate conservative" things like "moderate conservative" healthcare, "moderate conservative" bailouts, "moderate conservative" takeovers of industires, and so on?

I guess if you're dumb and biased enough to think our president really is "moderate conservative", then anyone holding a vaguely conservative opinion must, by comparison, be "insane", "crazy", "partisan", "intransigent", "wrongheaded" "extremis[ts]". But that doesn't make it objectively true. Just subjectively possible because of your own nutjob views.

Posted by: JoeInMD at July 27, 2011 07:21 AM (PIahf)

139 136 Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 11:08 AM (M9Ie6)

Yes, but he owned slaves, so everything he did is suspect...including the Declaration of Independence.
  Yeah, and he didn't allow women to vote either. A real knuckledragger. Too bad he is the father of the Democratic Party, huh? BTW, he died in bankruptcy, foreshowdowing his Party's future.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at July 27, 2011 07:21 AM (0M3AQ)

140 Yes, but he owned slaves, so everything he did is suspect...including the Declaration of Independence.
Posted by: Progressive on the short bus at July 27, 2011 11:17 AM (LH6ir


Yeah, and he porked Sally Hemmings too when she was only 14 years old in France. (at the same time he chasing after this other French artist female who was married) (and he really did do that)

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 07:21 AM (M9Ie6)

141 Old Smokey 1968 has been compared favourably to a Welsh claret, whilst the Australian Wino Society thoroughly recommends a 1970 Coq du Rod Laver, which, believe me, has a kick on it like a mule: eight bottles of this and you're really finished. At the opening of the Sydney Bridge Club, they were fishing them out of the main sewers every half an hour.

Of the sparkling wines, the most famous is Perth Pink. This is a bottle with a message in, and the message is 'beware'. This is not a wine for drinking, this is a wine for laying down and avoiding.

Posted by: Eric Idle at July 27, 2011 07:22 AM (e8kgV)

142 Posted by: Bill Mitchell at July 27, 2011 11:19 AM (uVlA4)

And Republicans behave exactly the opposite way. When their ideas succeed, they act as if it failed.

Posted by: KG at July 27, 2011 07:22 AM (LD21B)

143

Krugman calls Obama a "moderate conservative president".

I guess that means Obama hasn't yet set into motion a plan for troopers to storm peoples' homes forcing them to pledge their allegiance to him. 

Posted by: katya, defender of the unpretties at July 27, 2011 07:23 AM (Dc7bV)

144

Republicans behave exactly the opposite way. When their ideas succeed, they act as if it failed.

This is an attitude that plagues nice people.  They feel bad that they have hurt someone's feelings or something.

Posted by: katya, defender of the unpretties at July 27, 2011 07:24 AM (Dc7bV)

145

FWIW, Yuengling ("Yank-lank") purchased an unused Coors brewery in Memphis[!] and is now available in Georgia and Tennessee. Supposed to be coming to Ohio soon. Sure hope it's not via Heidelberg.

Always preferred Penn Pilsner to Yuengling, but either are pretty phenomenal.

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at July 27, 2011 07:25 AM (tk5O7)

146 Jefferson also sent the first grapes to Ohio.  Good idea? Your call.

#137 that's right, but there's more to it. First, champagne has to be made in heavy, deep-punt bottles. With a dry wine, you just "run it flat" (til it quits working), then add a sugar to re-start the second ferment, that causes the beery bubble in the bottle. But for sweet wine, it's very hard to predict just how much fermentation will happen in there--and the bottles have to be turned as the wine works, so they can go off in your hand. People die every year in France making it the old-fashioned way. It's considered an occupational hazard.

Posted by: comatus at July 27, 2011 07:26 AM (W5ilH)

147 She is advancing in the polls so the "Palinization" will grow fierce. They will start on Perry here soon as well.

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 10:46 AM

Exactly right, was discussing this very topic yesterday- used the bogus migraine krep and the bizarre investigation into her foster children as examples.

Perry krep will probably launch in earnest starting the week of August 8, in a lame arsed try at pre-empting his announcement to run a couple weeks later.

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at July 27, 2011 07:28 AM (tk5O7)

148 Too bad he is the father of the Democratic Party, huh? BTW, he died in bankruptcy, foreshowdowing his Party's future.

I don't know if that was meant to be snark or not but the Dems claim he did found their Party. That is not true. The Dem party was more or less founded by Andrew Jackson if I am not mistaken.

As for dieing in bankruptcy that is true and there are a lot of reasons for it. Mostly due to inherited debt in the very beginning, actions of the federal government with regard to paying off war debt and tariffs, and utter collapse of the land prices in VA due to actions again precipitated by the government, and long periods of time in which his plantation was ran by "overseers" while he was away serving his country.

BTW, this also the main reason he could not free his slaves at death the way a lot of the people did who were opposed to slavery. They were then in the hands of his creditors.   

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 07:28 AM (M9Ie6)

149

Yeah, and he porked Sally Hemmings too when she was only 14 years old in France.

 

I'm willing to give him a pass on this, since the average life expectancy was about 17

Posted by: Truman North at July 27, 2011 07:28 AM (G5JPI)

150

This is an attitude that plagues nice people. They feel bad that they have hurt someone's feelings or something.

It's also why churches have a hard time getting things done sometimes.  The nice people don't like to oppose the strong willed people so they often let stupid ideas go into play rather than openly disagree with them.

Posted by: katya, defender of the unpretties at July 27, 2011 07:30 AM (Dc7bV)

151

I have been to Kreuz Market. Stuff is good.

Piffle.

Smitty's, then Black's, and then Kreuz only if the previous two are closed, burned to the ground, or out of bbq for the day.

New place to try- Lambert's in downtown Austin.

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at July 27, 2011 07:31 AM (tk5O7)

152

BTW, this also the main reason he could not free his slaves at death the way a lot of the people did who were opposed to slavery. They were then in the hands of his creditors.   

 

Like I said, he foreshadows his Party's future. Jackson inherited Jefferson's mantle. Jeffereson is considered the father of the Dem party.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at July 27, 2011 07:31 AM (0M3AQ)

153

I'm willing to give him a pass on this, since the average life expectancy was about 17

Posted by: Truman North at July 27, 2011 11:28 AM (G5JPI)

LOL, that was meant to be snark. I do not believe he porked her at all, in France or otherwise. He denied it to his children and grandchildren to his dying day. He never denied it in public because his philosophy was to NEVER respond to personal attacks in public. He stated that in a letter to his grandson.

As for the "DNA evidence" it is not conclusive contrary to media reports.  There was a legal study done by the Monticello Organization that manages Monticello Cemetery.  It found that the evidence was not conclusive enough to satisfy legal requirements for the deed covenants controlling membership in the organization and burial in the cemetery (which is still active).

(not to be confused with the foundation that runs the house and other grounds. They are liberal and PC to the max)

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 07:36 AM (M9Ie6)

154 Jeffereson is considered the father of the Dem party.

Only by Dems

Posted by: Vic at July 27, 2011 07:36 AM (M9Ie6)

155 158 Jeffereson is considered the father of the Dem party.

Only by Dems
  Are they not the font of all wisdom and light? If they say so, it must be so. Just ask Obama. He will tell you. I bet Jefferson didn't like Americans flying on private Lear jets and such too.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at July 27, 2011 07:40 AM (0M3AQ)

156
Didn't Anakin kill the Yuenglings in the last dreadful prequel?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 27, 2011 07:42 AM (71Fka)

157

Leave it to Insty to find that economic silver lining!

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at July 27, 2011 10:37 AM

Laugher from the CNBC article Insty linked to;

Economist

Annual wage in government: $94,098
Mean annual wage in private sector: $99,350

Without economists, we would have little understanding of how monetary policy affects our lives. Economists have the greatest insight into how governments impact fiscal policy, so who better to explain deficits, debt ceilings and tax increases than an economist who works for the government?

Posted by: kbdabear at July 27, 2011 08:01 AM (so1xa)

158 Paul Krugman and the NYT Hate Moderates With a White-Hot Hateyness

Paul Krugman. Now there's a vile, despicable little rodent.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at July 27, 2011 08:51 AM (1rHeD)

159 Centerists to people like Krugman are that kindly and apolitical Joe Stalin. Krugman is a deluded Marxist with a soapbox.

Posted by: MCPO Airdale at July 27, 2011 08:54 AM (FAyWo)

160 That's not much of a threat anywhere except Ohio.

Let them. It's about time the residents of the great state of Ohio found out what real beer tasted like.

Posted by: rosignol at July 27, 2011 08:57 AM (AYFF7)

161 Late at night Paul Krugman beats his evil imaginary twin named Hank into submission with his ham-like fists then sobs himself to sleep.

Posted by: Anonymoose at July 27, 2011 09:49 AM (ZgvjV)

162 Unrelated, from the sidebar: Teamsters threaten to cut off Ohio's Budweiser supply. That's not much of a threat anywhere except Ohio. [via Jay in Ames] That's not a threat to anybody who enjoys drinking a beer.

Posted by: LeStiqsue at July 27, 2011 01:33 PM (0QAJi)

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