August 09, 2011

Paul Ryan To Run Ads In... Iowa
— Ace

He's soliciting donations to run ads defending his Path to Prosperity.

In an email through his political organization, the Prosperity Project, Ryan, chairman of the House Budget Committee, also asked the GOP presidential field to support the budget. Ryan is pushing back against a campaign led this week in Iowa by the Democratic National Committee to frame GOP presidential candidates as extremists.

“The DNC is attacking all of the candidates for their support of my Path to Prosperity budget,” Ryan wrote in the email. “We have to fight back. With your support, I’m planning on launching a counter-attack to educate Iowa voters about the Path to Prosperity and how it’s the only plan currently on the table that saves Medicare.”

This doesn't signal any interest in a run, just his interest in seeing his plan be adopted as United States policy.

Meanwhile, Perry is scheduled to appear at the RedState gathering in Charleston, SC, this Saturday, and make his intentions for the future known. Which is meant to mean he won't be announcing -- he'll just be making it clear that he will announce at some point.

This is intended (it looks like) to make Perry a second headline of the day after Michele Bachmann wins in the straw poll, which annoys some Iowa Republicans:

Perry is basically going to attempt inject himself in to the national news story, but his speech and entrance into the race will not match the excitement of Ames.

The RedState gathering in Charleston, South Carolina, takes place from Friday through Sunday. Perry could have arranged his schedule to announce either before or after the Straw Poll. Iowans wonÂ’t forget this.

Eh, kind of parochial. It's annoying that these early-primary state voters get so jealously protective of their Big Time In The Spotlight.

Of course that's exactly what Perry intended, so it can't be said they're imagining things.

Posted by: Ace at 10:35 AM | Comments (206)
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1 And, I'm spent. See you tomorrow!

Posted by: New Content at August 09, 2011 10:36 AM (usXZy)

2 I'M RICK PERRY, BITCH!

Posted by: Rick Perry at August 09, 2011 10:37 AM (GQ8sn)

3 Paging William Kristol.....

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 09, 2011 10:38 AM (iT/Iy)

4 sock off

Posted by: Johnny at August 09, 2011 10:38 AM (iT/Iy)

5 The Iowa Straw Poll, what is it good for?

Posted by: L. Tolstoy at August 09, 2011 10:38 AM (1fB+3)

6 CA just approved the Popular Vote for presidential elections this week.

If the GOP doesn't get moving on a National Primary bill, the Popular vote movement may score a big coup for the 2016 election.


Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 09, 2011 10:38 AM (DEcmU)

7 I already like Perry. He's in it to win, no? So to hell with Iowa which he has obviously already written off.

Posted by: Dave at August 09, 2011 10:39 AM (Xm1aB)

8

and we're off!

Posted by: fantasy talk and circle-jerk at August 09, 2011 10:39 AM (G/zuv)

9 @6 I don't understand. States cannot unilaterally abolish the electoral college, can they?

Posted by: Dave at August 09, 2011 10:40 AM (Xm1aB)

10 OMG.  CONTENT.

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea Party Hobbit at August 09, 2011 10:41 AM (4df7R)

11 My hopes for Rick: Ignore Iowa. Aim for New Hampshire, pick up SC, then steamroll all the way to Super Tuesday.

Posted by: joncelli at August 09, 2011 10:41 AM (RD7QR)

12 Too much content.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 10:41 AM (AZGON)

13

Iowa Republicans need to shut up.

I'm sick of their entitlement. They want to be fondled by all of the GOP candidates.

Heck,  Iowa doesn't even vote Republican in the generals, so what is the point?

Large states or states with Republicans who have priorities other than ethanol subsidies should get first billing. Texas, Florida, heck even Ohio or Pennsylvania.

Why do pipsqueek states get such a big stay.

I can't wait until Iowa is no longer out in front.

Posted by: Ben at August 09, 2011 10:42 AM (wuv1c)

14 What's the content?  Ahh hell, I don't care, I'm just glad to be out of that smelly last thread.

Posted by: dogfish at August 09, 2011 10:42 AM (N2yhW)

15 Hold my drink, bitch.

Posted by: Rick Perry at August 09, 2011 10:42 AM (GQ8sn)

16 CA just approved the Popular Vote for presidential elections this week. Federalism? Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at August 09, 2011 10:42 AM (AZGON)

17 Perry feels like this year's Fred Thompson more and more.

Posted by: brak at August 09, 2011 10:42 AM (nIoiW)

18 It's a move to push entitlement reform.

Such pettiness about the Perry announcement, but it is that time of year.

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 09, 2011 10:42 AM (o2lIv)

19 Perry needs to just get in this thing,officially.

Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2011 10:42 AM (Ic6e+)

20 and we're off!
Posted by: fantasy talk

OK, Juliet Huddy and Megyn Kelly, lingerie, whipped cream ...

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 09, 2011 10:42 AM (pdCUF)

21 Too bad the GOP pissed all over Ryan. He is now marginalized as too extreme.

Posted by: blaster at August 09, 2011 10:42 AM (l5dj7)

22 Iowans wonÂ’t forget this.


Ooooooh.....scary!

Posted by: Tami at August 09, 2011 10:42 AM (X6akg)

23 Iowans wonÂ’t forget this.

Jeezus, are Iowans that petty? 

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 10:43 AM (5H6zj)

24 400+ comment open thread asking for fresh content... and we get inside baseball. Yeah. I was hoping for something meaty. Like longbows vs. General Zod.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 10:43 AM (AZGON)

25 States cannot unilaterally abolish the electoral college, can they? Posted by: Dave at August 09, 2011 02:40 PM (Xm1aB) No, but the idea is that the electoral votes will be awarded to the winner of the popular vote. Don't know if the Supremes consider that constitutional but it hasn't come up yet.

Posted by: joncelli at August 09, 2011 10:43 AM (RD7QR)

26 He's soliciting donations to run ads defending his Path to Prosperity.

Prosperity isn't very eco-friendly you know...

Posted by: Some Environmentalist at August 09, 2011 10:43 AM (7BU4a)

27 Doesn't matter.  Wheee!

Posted by: Dow Jones Index at August 09, 2011 10:43 AM (4nfy2)

28 Sell !!!

Posted by: franksalterego at August 09, 2011 10:44 AM (7/sDI)

29 Dow at negative 100.  It's been comical (in a dark way) to listen to the news updates all morning as the Dow gain 250 and that wore off.  The tone of the news coverage was we are saved the Dow is up 250.  We are saved the Dow is up 150.  We are saved the Dow is up 30.  I'm not sure if we are saved now or if it is the Hobbitesses fault that we're doomed.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 10:44 AM (Hx5uv)

30 Well the dow is down 100 + it's an obama miracle

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 09, 2011 10:44 AM (i6RpT)

31 Thanks to the commenter in the previous thread for tipping me off about this new thread.

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at August 09, 2011 10:44 AM (Xm1aB)

32 Posted by: joncelli at August 09, 2011 02:43 PM (RD7QR)

And if they get enough states to go along with it to win the electoral college, then the Presidential elections de-facto become a popular vote contest.

Posted by: Brenden at August 09, 2011 10:44 AM (wa+SP)

33 Thank God... that last place was reeking too much of Frank and beans.

Posted by: Moron from previous thread at August 09, 2011 10:44 AM (SQEEd)

34

DO NOT TAUNT HAPPY FUN ALEX!

Large states or states with Republicans who have priorities other than ethanol subsidies should get first billing. Texas, Florida, heck even Ohio or Pennsylvania.

Pennsylvania is all about the gas shale subsidies at the moment.  Before I left last year one of the gas companies had the best bribe the locals idea.  They came in and offered to pay for and fix all the roads so that the heavy equipment could make through.  Now that's the way to do some discrete bribery.

Posted by: alexthechick at August 09, 2011 10:44 AM (VtjlW)

35 Is your 401(k) better off now than it was 2, 3, 4 years ago?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 09, 2011 10:45 AM (9hSKh)

36

I propose a committee to look into forming a committee on content.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 10:46 AM (G/zuv)

37 Posted by: Dave at August 09, 2011 02:40 PM (Xm1aB)

No, they can't.  What they can do (quite within Constitutional limits) is proportion their Electors based (in various ways) on popular vote.  My guess (not in CA, so I don't know the specifics) is that they're moving to winner-takes-all based on total votes, instead of by number of districts, or whatever.

They could even (technically, I think- but I'm not exactly a constitutional scholar, and I can bet it would make even liberals scream if they thought about it for 15 seconds) tie their presidential Elector apportionment to the national popular vote.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 09, 2011 10:46 AM (8y9MW)

38 Why do pipsqueek states get such a big stay. I can't wait until Iowa is no longer out in front. Posted by: Ben at August 09, 2011 02:42 PM (wuv1c) It's all they've got, otherwise Iowa is cow farts and corn as far as the eye can see (and the nose can smell).

Posted by: joncelli at August 09, 2011 10:46 AM (RD7QR)

39

OK, Juliet Huddy and Megyn Kelly, lingerie, whipped cream ...

...and a certain Boy to, uh, referee, yeah, that's the ticket...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 09, 2011 10:46 AM (d0Tfm)

40 Too bad the GOP pissed all over Ryan. He is now marginalized as too extreme.

The GOP for when you really, really need a circular firing squad.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 10:46 AM (Hx5uv)

41 Save us, Rick Perry!   Or Paul Ryan!  Or someone.....anyone.....please.......

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2011 10:46 AM (UOM48)

42 Holy crap. DJIA down 146. Thanks, Barry and John.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 10:46 AM (AZGON)

43 @28 Thanks. If I understand correctly, then there is nothing to be concerned about relative to California. It's about as blue as blue gets.

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart at August 09, 2011 10:46 AM (Xm1aB)

44 I don't understand.

States cannot unilaterally abolish the electoral college, can they? Posted by: Dave

By amending the Const.
*   *   *
... On 2nd thought, a national primary day has nothing to do with that. <brain gas>

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 09, 2011 10:46 AM (DEcmU)

45

Pennsylvania is all about the gas shale subsidies at the moment.  Before I left last year one of the gas companies had the best bribe the locals idea.  They came in and offered to pay for and fix all the roads so that the heavy equipment could make through.  Now that's the way to do some discrete bribery.

???

What shale gas subsidies?

Let's see here. A company comes to drill oil and they pay to repair any damage they happen to make while drilling?

I do not think this word subsidy means what you think it means.

Posted by: Ben at August 09, 2011 10:46 AM (wuv1c)

46 Note to Perry: Don't fuck with Bachmann. She's got the crazy eyes.

Posted by: Newsweek at August 09, 2011 10:46 AM (pLTLS)

47 @48 sock off now

Posted by: Dave at August 09, 2011 10:46 AM (Xm1aB)

48 36 Thank God... that last place was reeking too much of Frank and beans.

Posted by: Moron from previous thread at August 09, 2011 02:44 PM (SQEEd)

It's more of a cocktail weiner than a frank. The beans part is about right, though.

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at August 09, 2011 10:47 AM (c45xH)

49 38 Is your 401(k) better off now than it was 2, 3, 4 years ago?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 09, 2011 02:45 PM (9hSKh)


You meant "minutes ago" didn't you?

Posted by: dogfish at August 09, 2011 10:47 AM (N2yhW)

50 That weird R Perry logo has gotta go.
Also the script one.


Still, they're not as bad as Mitt's logo.

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 10:47 AM (5H6zj)

51 By the way, can I borrow someone's pot? I need to piss and I lost mine in the market.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 10:47 AM (AZGON)

52

Is your 401(k) better off now than it was 2, 3, 4 years minutes ago?

FIFY

OK, Juliet Huddy and Megyn Kelly, lingerie, whipped cream ...

I'm still wishcasting Kate in cammo and an M16 as hard as I can. 

Posted by: alexthechick at August 09, 2011 10:48 AM (VtjlW)

53 What IS this strange thing called... Content??

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 09, 2011 10:48 AM (kUaEF)

54 ♫ she's got crazy Bachmann eyes ♫


Posted by: Newsweak Carnes at August 09, 2011 10:49 AM (pdCUF)

55 Abolishing the Electoral College would require a constitutional amendment, right?  Would enough small states go along with that?  I kind of doubt it.

Posted by: Johnny at August 09, 2011 10:49 AM (iT/Iy)

56 Any guesses? Will we test the 2009 market lows? I'm feeling a bit David Carradine-ish right now.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 10:49 AM (AZGON)

57 38 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 09, 2011 02:45 PM (9hSKh): Is your 401(k) better off now than it was 2, 3, 4 years minutes ago?


Posted by: scituate_tgr at August 09, 2011 10:50 AM (6V0xD)

58 That weird R Perry logo has gotta go.

Last time I checked, Perry started with a P.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 10:50 AM (Hx5uv)

59 I'm still wishcasting Kate in cammo and an M16 as hard as I can. Posted by: alexthechick at August 09, 2011 02:48 PM (VtjlW) With Pippa Middleton in a camouflage garter belt. Please please please.

Posted by: joncelli at August 09, 2011 10:50 AM (RD7QR)

60 25 Iowans wonÂ’t forget this. People from Omaha, Nebraska make fun of Iowa. It doesn't get more pathetic than that.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 09, 2011 10:50 AM (kUaEF)

61 So who does Obama fear most? Romney? Perry? Bachmann? Who?

Posted by: Dave at August 09, 2011 10:50 AM (Xm1aB)

62 Hey Paul Ryan!  What did the five fingers say to the face?

SLAP!!!

Posted by: Rick Perry at August 09, 2011 10:50 AM (GQ8sn)

63

By the way, can I borrow someone's pot? I need to piss and I lost mine in the market.

 

There's a guy in my building that can hook you up with some great Mexican Pot.

Posted by: Ralph Furley at August 09, 2011 10:50 AM (8Pc4N)

64 More Social Justice love on Wall Street.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 09, 2011 10:50 AM (0M3AQ)

65 Posted by: dogfish at August 09, 2011 02:47 PM (N2yhW)

Guess I should refresh more often.

Posted by: scituate_tgr at August 09, 2011 10:51 AM (6V0xD)

66 brb, workin' on my own plan. ...for a chip and run on the 8th hol.

Posted by: barry potus at August 09, 2011 10:51 AM (FcR7P)

67 No, but the idea is that the electoral votes will be awarded to the winner of the popular vote. Don't know if the Supremes consider that constitutional but it hasn't come up yet.

Article 2, Section 1, Paragraph 2: "Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of the Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector." (My emphasis)

Based on my reading, it would be completely Constitutional.  It would just also be stupid.  What happens when the Republican wins the popular vote?

Federalism? Never heard of it.

Actually, this would be more of an additional blow to Republicanism.  Republicanism and Democracy are always in conflict- always enemies.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 09, 2011 10:51 AM (8y9MW)

68 I'm voting for Mel Gibson because I like blow jobs.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 10:51 AM (Hx5uv)

69

I wonder if Ryan will bring up the obscure fact I read the other day that S & P wouldn't have downgraded us if his Plan ha been passed and signed.

I can understand him not wanting to toot his own horn too loudly, but at least he could say "I told you so" just once.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 09, 2011 10:52 AM (d0Tfm)

70 I'm a Maniac, Maaa-niac, on yo' couch!

Posted by: Rick Perry, Bitch! at August 09, 2011 10:52 AM (8Pc4N)

71 67 So who does Obama fear most? Romney? Perry? Bachmann? Who? Moochelle.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 09, 2011 10:52 AM (kUaEF)

72 That weird R Perry logo has gotta go.

I think (but do not know) that's the brand for a ranch.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 09, 2011 10:52 AM (bjRNS)

73

What shale gas subsidies?

Let's see here. A company comes to drill oil and they pay to repair any damage they happen to make while drilling?

I do not think this word subsidy means what you think it means.

No, I'm not talking about that.  Also, I see the confusion, what with my grammar fail.  There was, in my head, a change in topic from a general discussion of subsidies to a specific discussion of what I thought was a clever idea to shoot down the enviroweenies before they got a foothold.  Sorry, that was only clear to me.

Awhile back Fast Eddie was yammering away about how the companies needed to have the Commonwealth work with them to be partners in blah blah blah yadda yadda and tax breaks and subsidies were part of it.  I'm just incredibly cynical that this is going to turn into ethanol redux.

Posted by: alexthechick at August 09, 2011 10:52 AM (VtjlW)

74 66 25 Iowans wonÂ’t forget this.

People from Omaha, Nebraska make fun of Iowa.

It doesn't get more pathetic than that.       Don't they know that they are being sized up as colonies for Chicago?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 09, 2011 10:52 AM (0M3AQ)

75 The RedState gathering in Charleston, South Carolina, takes place from Friday through Sunday. Perry could have arranged his schedule to announce either before or after the Straw Poll. Iowans wonÂ’t forget this.


Its not about getting your butt hurt, you jackasses.  It's about SAVING THIS COUNTRY!!!! 

Posted by: © Sponge at August 09, 2011 10:52 AM (UK9cE)

76 When does Chairsatan Bernanke begin QEIII? His boss Dick is gonna need it.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 10:52 AM (AZGON)

77 Damn the content, full speed ahead.

Posted by: cherry π at August 09, 2011 10:52 AM (OhYCU)

78

With Pippa Middleton in a camouflage garter belt.

 

a bit over dressed, but I'll take it.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2011 10:53 AM (8Pc4N)

79 I remember 2000. I'm loathe to see the electoral college weakened.

Posted by: Dave at August 09, 2011 10:53 AM (Xm1aB)

80 71 Posted by: dogfish at August 09, 2011 02:47 PM (N2yhW) Guess I should refresh more often. Posted by: scituate_tgr at August 09, 2011 02:51 PM (6V0xD) And wash your neck, while you're at it.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 09, 2011 10:53 AM (kUaEF)

81 Hey Paul Ryan!  What did the five fingers say to the face?

SLAP!!!

Posted by: Rick Perry at August 09, 2011 02:50 PM (GQ8sn)

Heh, a campaign is a helluva drug.

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama, perpetual campaigner at August 09, 2011 10:53 AM (SQEEd)

82

OK, Juliet Huddy and Megyn Kelly, lingerie, whipped cream ...

All the blood just drained from my brain.

Don't to that again, man.

Well....at least not without a warning label.

Posted by: His Most Serene Highness Barack Obama the First at August 09, 2011 10:53 AM (sbV1u)

83 Jeezus, are Iowans that petty? 

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 02:43 PM (5H6zj)

It's a fundraiser.  It helps to fund all of those statehouse races as well as a few Congressional races (Peter King).

Apparently Perry's going to Iowa after this weekend, so he'll probably mend fences on his own terms when it's all said and done.

Perry should be able to easily win the Iowa caucuses.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 09, 2011 10:53 AM (73tyQ)

84 It's all they've got, otherwise Iowa is cow farts and corn as far as the eye can see (and the nose can smell).

Don't forget about the yet to be raptured evangelicals and the hand-wringing home-schoolers. You can get a taste of them here at AoS every Sunday night. FiCons all day. SoCons all evening. What a blog. There's something for everyone.

Posted by: Rick Santorum sings 'These Boots are made for Walkin' at August 09, 2011 10:54 AM (le5qc)

85 What shale gas subsidies? I thought I read "whale gas subsidies" and figured we were back to Barney Frank.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 10:54 AM (AZGON)

86

With Pippa Middleton in a camouflage garter belt. Please please please.

An acceptable addition. 

Posted by: alexthechick at August 09, 2011 10:54 AM (VtjlW)

87 OMG!  The Dow is down only 50.  It looks like we're saved again.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 10:54 AM (Hx5uv)

88 78 That weird R Perry logo has gotta go.

I think (but do not know) that's the brand for a ranch.

---

Hmmm, that would be better than my theory - that the R is for Rick.

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 10:54 AM (5H6zj)

89

Now DOW down 8. Funny world of stability we have. Thank God for Obama.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 09, 2011 10:54 AM (0M3AQ)

90 to the east, across the wide waters

He links to a picture

Posted by: Hiram Ulysses Grant at August 09, 2011 10:54 AM (UqKQV)

91 “In conjunction with Ames, the Democratic National Committee will launch a campaign today that seeks to tie the GOP candidates to the tea party, Paul Ryan and Jim DeMint. It’s called “Extreme Aims: Wrong for Seniors. Wrong for the Middle Class.”

/Politico

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 09, 2011 10:54 AM (o2lIv)

92

I'm hoping for thigh highs and a smile.

But hey, I'll take what I can get.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 09, 2011 10:54 AM (sbV1u)

93 Ames Straw Poll = Auditions for VP candidate

Posted by: The Guy Who Sees All The Angles at August 09, 2011 10:54 AM (1+CnU)

94

It's annoying that these early-primary state voters get so jealously protective of their Big Time In The Spotlight.

Well, speaking as a resident of one early-primary state (NH), a good chunk of it is about money.  Obviously.  Primary season brings a lot of revenue into our state, not just from the candidates, but from the media and political junkies who accompany them.  They all need hotels to stay in, restaurants to eat in, gas stations to fuel up at.  You know how it goes.

Plus, in NH we really ARE independent voters, so I think having candidates stop and make policy statements here is a nice opportunity to hear how they play to a mercurial audience.  Of course, a lot of the big names stay the hell away from local small businesses, because they know they'd get an EARFUL.

(When I say independent, I mean native NH-ites are.  I'm not talking about the wishy-washy Mass pansy Dems, VT granola-crunchers, and Maine's toothless cretins.  They don't count.)

PS - More rioting right now in London/UK.

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea Party Hobbit at August 09, 2011 10:55 AM (4df7R)

95 I don't think we're giving the shale drillers subsidies at all - we're just not taxing them out the ass like New York State did. That's why they're HERE now and not there. Hip hip hooray! It's good news for PA, rare I know.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 09, 2011 10:55 AM (SB0V2)

96 67 So who does Obama fear most?

Romney?

Perry?

Bachmann?

Who?

Posted by: Dave at August 09, 2011 02:50 PM (Xm1aB)

Leviathan.

(that's what Michelle calls her favorite strap-on)

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at August 09, 2011 10:56 AM (c45xH)

97

wow AOL is taking a beating!

at this rate, it might actually be worth its value -- $0.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 10:56 AM (G/zuv)

98 OT - This could be a vision of the future if we don't heed Ryan's advice and get our rampant debt under control:

city centre, eyewitness tells BBC news.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 09, 2011 10:56 AM (9hSKh)

99 Nah, that weird R is a Perry campaign logo. 

So the Perrys have a ranch? 

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 10:56 AM (5H6zj)

100

Pennsylvania is all about the gas shale subsidies at the moment.  Before I left last year one of the gas companies had the best bribe the locals idea.  They came in and offered to pay for and fix all the roads so that the heavy equipment could make through.  Now that's the way to do some discrete bribery.

Posted by: alexthechick at August 09, 2011 02:44 PM (VtjlW)

But that dumb bitch Rachel Maddow in her stupid MSNBC Lean Forward ad talks about how a private company has no incentive to do something like build a bridge!!

Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2011 10:56 AM (GULKT)

101 I love it. "The excitement of Ames." What fucking excitement? It's IOWA. It's meaningless.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 09, 2011 10:57 AM (lbo6/)

102 “In conjunction with Ames, the Democratic National Committee will launch a campaign today that seeks to tie the GOP candidates to the tea party, Paul Ryan and Jim DeMint. It’s called “Extreme Aims: Wrong for Seniors. Wrong for the Middle Class.” /Politico The GOP will go along with that crap, too, distancing themselves and writing off their own team as "extreme." Except for Bachmann.

Posted by: blaster at August 09, 2011 10:57 AM (l5dj7)

103 Y-not Don't know if they have a ranch or not. I'm not from Texas, but seems that would be a requirement for an elected official down there.

Posted by: Dave at August 09, 2011 10:57 AM (Xm1aB)

104 Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 02:56 PM (5H6zj)

I'm virtually certain they do.  He grew up a farmer (or a rancher- I can't remember which, but do not confuse the two), and it's kind of a thing for a certain class of politician here.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 09, 2011 10:58 AM (8y9MW)

105

Did anyone mention what a stuttering, miserable clusterfuck of a failure he is yet?

 

Doh! Wrong thread

Posted by: Andrew Breitbart's Secret Sock Puppet at August 09, 2011 10:58 AM (q177U)

106 97 to the east, across the wide waters He links to a picture Posted by: Hiram Ulysses Grant at August 09, 2011 02:54 PM (UqKQV) Awww, that's just Obama talking to the American taxpayer!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 09, 2011 10:58 AM (kUaEF)

107 We need to redo the primaries.  I would arrange it into five or six regionals: Northeast, Southeast, Upper Midwest, Plains, Southwest, West Coast. 

It is ludicrous to put so much power in the hands of NH and Iowa. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 10:58 AM (5H6zj)

108 PS - More rioting right now in London/UK. You know what this resembles? A spoiled child, knocking over furniture and using crayons on the wall; Mom follows behind picking up chairs and wiping the goo away. Does she stop the child and take him in hand? Heavens, no. Traumatic. It's just easier to let the little shit bugger the house and clean up his mess later.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 10:58 AM (AZGON)

109 Some story out today says Perry received about 9K from the federal government to not grow something, so he must have a ranch.

Posted by: Dave at August 09, 2011 10:59 AM (Xm1aB)

110 If Perry is anything like W, we are boned...
I will vote for whomever is nominated to insure the jig is up with nO.  But I want a freaking RIGHT WING NUT to undo all the marxist madness that That One has instituted, implemented and infested our out of control lard laden unsustainable pork bellied lying federal bloated government with, and importantly, nullify and void every single regulation written, touched, seen or signed by cass sunstein.
But Palin can't win....

Posted by: Shame The Shameless at August 09, 2011 10:59 AM (dh5Eu)

111 Just what the country needs.........another Texan with a Jesus fetish.

Posted by: I'm Chris Matthews and I'll see you in hell. at August 09, 2011 10:59 AM (E8oYF)

112 Hmmm, that would be better than my theory - that the R is for Rick.

Yeah, it is. Though it translates to "an R with HAIR" to me.

So the Perrys have a ranch?

I'm not sure. I know that his folks are out in the middle of nowhere, and into agriculture, and Perry went to A&M ... so I'm just guessing.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 09, 2011 10:59 AM (bjRNS)

113

56That weird R Perry logo has gotta go.

 

He's from Texas - I'm betting that's his family's cattle brand (see 'em all the time around here.....)

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth at August 09, 2011 10:59 AM (MXC7a)

114 Perry gets a gold star for giving Iowa the back side of his pimp hand.  The optimist in me thinks that voting for him might not be all that horribly unpleasant.

Posted by: Bob Saget, crossbreeding honey badgers with hobbits. at August 09, 2011 10:59 AM (F/4zf)

115 But is his dick going to be in the ad?

Please,  stop talking about the pics of my dick.  Let's talk about my dick.

Posted by: Anthony Weiner at August 09, 2011 11:00 AM (TXKVh)

116
Sucker's rally.

The DJIA will go below 10K, to 9800 or so, and then the bleeding will stop.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 11:00 AM (G/zuv)

117 Snark from HA:  Barney Frank Signals Support for Natural Gas.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 11:00 AM (Hx5uv)

118 We need to redo the primaries. I would arrange it into five or six regionals: Northeast, Southeast, Upper Midwest, Plains, Southwest, West Coast. With a play-in for the military vote to get the 57th spot.

Posted by: t-bird at August 09, 2011 11:00 AM (FcR7P)

119 If the Iowa polls are accurate Bachmann should walk away with that straw poll. However, keep in mind that it is a straw poll and The Paulbots will be out in force.

As for that Red State gathering there is going to be some real conservative heavies there. If you can attend do sign up over at Red State.

I will not be able to go though.

Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2011 11:00 AM (M9Ie6)

120 Rick Perry burned down the Governor's Mansion because he's a self-hating gay!

Posted by: average HuffPo reader at August 09, 2011 11:00 AM (AZGON)

121 I'm not from Texas, but seems that would be a requirement for an elected official down there.

I think all of our Governors for the last couple of decades have been ranchers.  The things is, until very, very recently, land purchase in Texas meant mineral rights as well (it still does if you buy it from the state or get lucky with the seller), and we have oil and natural gas that means people with lots of land make lots of money.  So it's very, very easy for the ranchers (and, to a lesser extent, the farmers) to make a lot of money for leasing their mineral rights.

Money is one of the essential ingredients for politics above the local level.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 09, 2011 11:00 AM (8y9MW)

122 @117 That's what I think Rick Perry is, the closest thing I've seen to an electable rightwing nut on our side.

Posted by: Dave at August 09, 2011 11:01 AM (Xm1aB)

123 It is ludicrous to put so much power in the hands of NH and Iowa. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 02:58 PM (5H6zj)

It needs to rotate among small states.  Otherwise: Presidential nominee Donald Trump.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 09, 2011 11:01 AM (73tyQ)

124 111 I'm virtually certain they do.  He grew up a farmer (or a rancher- I can't remember which, but do not confuse the two), and it's kind of a thing for a certain class of politician here.

Rancher

Posted by: 80sBaby at August 09, 2011 11:02 AM (o2lIv)

125
Rick Perry's logo should be a big C to mark his average grades.

Posted by: kos troll at August 09, 2011 11:02 AM (G/zuv)

126 Seriously, what is going on in Britain??


He links to a picture

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 09, 2011 11:02 AM (UqKQV)

127 Rick Perry, if you pull a Fred Thompson, I will personally smash your blow dryer. Don't call my bluff.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 11:02 AM (AZGON)

128 Ben, we've only got $2.4 trillion left- minus whatever I need for my buddies. I need you to wait until September or so of next year...

Posted by: Barry O'Douche at August 09, 2011 11:04 AM (FcR7P)

129 5 The Iowa Straw Poll, what is it good for?

absolutely nothing

Posted by: elspeth at August 09, 2011 11:04 AM (0AkWH)

130 @133 This is coming here. Give it five years, it's coming here.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 11:04 AM (AZGON)

131 Britain has lost the will to defend itself.  They are talking about water hoses and plastic bullets for a new tough approach.  they should be talking about machine guns armed with dum dums.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 11:04 AM (Hx5uv)

132 This is a cease and desist order.  No one will reference "Free Fallin" and the DJIA.  Thank you for your cooperation.

Posted by: Tom Petty at August 09, 2011 11:04 AM (mjR67)

133

This thread is so dry that it's actually more fun to fake troll it.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 11:04 AM (G/zuv)

134

Rick Perry, if you pull a Fred Thompson, I will personally smash your blow dryer.

I've been on the threads too long.  I read that and to my eyes it came out looking like "Rick Perry, if you pull a Fred Thompson, I will personally blow your dryer."

Bartender!

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 09, 2011 11:04 AM (sbV1u)

135 It needs to rotate among small states.  Otherwise: Presidential nominee Donald Trump

Well, I think you'd have to divide up the regions so there was a balance of big electoral vote states and small ones.  Ideally, the small ones would have > or = the number of electoral votes as the biggest state in any given region. 

I don't know if the city vs rural factor is as big a deal in the GOP primary, but I guess I'd also try to distribute the big metro areas as evenly as possible amongst the 5 or 6 regions. 

And maybe you could rotate who goes first so it's not always one of the coasts. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 11:04 AM (5H6zj)

136 135 Rick Perry, if you pull a Fred Thompson, I will personally smash your blow dryer. Don't call my bluff. Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:02 PM (AZGON) Yeah, I've got to admit that this Announcing Intentions to Announce Intentions At A Date Yet To Be Determined shit is getting annoying. Run already, give us somebody to back!

Posted by: joncelli at August 09, 2011 11:04 AM (RD7QR)

137 132
Rick Perry's logo should be a big C to mark his average grades.

Posted by: kos troll at August 09, 2011 03:02 PM (G/zuv)

That explains the "D" logo for the Dems.

And the gas or genetic material flowing from the Obama's "O" logo....

Posted by: Logorama at August 09, 2011 11:04 AM (c45xH)

138 This is coming here. Give it five years, it's coming here.

I'm thinking November, 2012.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 11:05 AM (Hx5uv)

139 He links to a picture Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 09, 2011 03:02 PM (UqKQV) Well... I'm glad you didn't link to what came NEXT...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 09, 2011 11:05 AM (kUaEF)

140 Every indicator I've seen tells me that investors should divest in gold and take advantage of the deep discounts available in the stock market.

Posted by: Christine Roemer at August 09, 2011 11:05 AM (E8oYF)

141 Seriously, what is going on in Britain??


He links to a picture


This may end up being an iconic photo like this one

Vietnam

Posted by: cherry π at August 09, 2011 11:05 AM (OhYCU)

142 Rick Perry's logo should be... An O with a non-violent slash thru it.

Posted by: t-bird at August 09, 2011 11:05 AM (FcR7P)

143 Big women + Saturday night = wrestling chops, Iowa-style

Posted by: Fritz at August 09, 2011 11:06 AM (p2IBw)

144 The order of the Primaries should be based on the percentage of Republican vote in the last election. But that will never happen as long as the Party is controlled by the Rockefeller wing.

They did change the rules though this time. The first three are proportional delegates with the rest being all to the plurality.

In short, the screwed it up even worse.

Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2011 11:06 AM (M9Ie6)

145 Apropos of nothing, the D.B. Cooper DNA Test Doesn't Pan Out [Ben] sidebar link is broken.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 09, 2011 11:06 AM (GTbGH)

146 It needs to rotate among small states.  Otherwise: Presidential nominee Donald Trump. Posted by: AmishDude

There's only one logical solution; national primary day. Just trying to overcome the small-state gaming thing with more gaming is pointless.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 09, 2011 11:06 AM (DEcmU)

147  This is big,  people!  BIG!

Bigger than the corn for which we're famous!

It is corn,  isn't it?

Nebraska?!


Are you sure?

Fine,  but does Nebraska have a water park?  We do.

Posted by: The State of Iowa at August 09, 2011 11:06 AM (TXKVh)

148 141 This thread is so dry that it's actually more fun to fake troll it. Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 03:04 PM (G/zuv) This thread is drier than Barbara Walters' twat on Bingo night at the retirement home.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 09, 2011 11:07 AM (kUaEF)

149 We need to redo the primaries.  I would arrange it into five or six regionals: Northeast, Southeast, Upper Midwest, Plains, Southwest, West Coast. 

It is ludicrous to put so much power in the hands of NH and Iowa. 

Posted by: Y-not

 

And we need to add a wild card Round! That would boost TV revenues.

Posted by: the lack of footbal affects some morons more than others at August 09, 2011 11:07 AM (326rv)

150
Obama just released a statement:

Hello, everybody. No matter what some street says, the DJIA has always been and always will be thirteen-thousand.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 11:07 AM (G/zuv)

151 Seriously, what is going on in Britain??

Obviously it's racist to engage in such hyperbole...

,,wait, that actually happened?
DOES NOT COMPUTE frzzle..

Posted by: PC worldview shattering messily at August 09, 2011 11:07 AM (sOXQX)

152 Yeah, I've got to admit that this Announcing Intentions to Announce Intentions At A Date Yet To Be Determined shit is getting annoying.

Maybe it's just because I want him to run, but it doesn't feel that long to me.  I mean, when was it really a serious possibility?  It only feels like it's been maybe three months.  And for me the clock didn't start ticking until after the legislative session ended and he had his surgery, so that's not very long at all. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 11:08 AM (5H6zj)

153 Bingo!

Posted by: Alan Greenspan at August 09, 2011 11:08 AM (p2IBw)

154 Fuck Iowa. They've got what 3 electoral votes, and the whole state is dependent on farm subsidies. I don't have a lot of faith in a small state full of social cons who are firmly entrenched at the public trough.

Posted by: Bannor at August 09, 2011 11:08 AM (6AXh/)

155 Paul Ryan to run ads in Iowa...



Showing a bit of the ol' prospective VP ankle, eh Paul?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 09, 2011 11:09 AM (EeYDk)

156 Posted by: Shame The Shameless at August 09, 2011 02:59 PM (dh5Eu)

About the only things Rick Perry and George W Bush have in common are their Republican registrations and the fact they've both been Governors of the State of Texas.  Oh, and the fact they are completely comfortable with, and unafraid of, their religious proclivities.

Rick Perry is much more small government than GW (I know, low bar, but true) with only two major gaffes in the last decade.

Rick Perry is bigger on border enforcement than GW (not enough for many, but about infinity percent better than anyone on the Left).

Rick Perry just lead the legislature through their first required budget cuts in... forever and did so in a way that did not raise taxes (not sure about fees, but taxes didn't go up).

Rick Perry and Karl Rove do not get along.  At all.  Period.  Full stop.

Rick Perry is a bare-knuckles kind of politician when he needs to be- and is willing to resort to unconventional tactics to make his point.  In the last election, against Bill White, political observers thought it was a major mistake not to debate Mr. White.  Perry had a precondition that Mr. White release some tax returns from when Clinton was the President, and Mr. White didn't do so.  So, no debate.  So, Perry won by double-digits.

Rick Perry is very, very big on Federalism.  Note his comment that he's fine with States (in the abstract) legalizing gay marriage- because he thinks that's a States' Rights issue, not a Federal one.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 09, 2011 11:09 AM (8y9MW)

157
This thread is drier than Al Gore's hotel masseuse.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 11:09 AM (G/zuv)

158 That weird R Perry logo has gotta go.

He's from Texas - I'm betting that's his family's cattle brand (see 'em all the time around here.....)

Rancher. I'm guessing from the brand it means something like "the Hanging R" from the bar on the top, but I'm no expert.

And yeah, don't ever confuse a rancher and a farmer. It does tend to piss us off. (Well, ranchers anyway...)

Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 09, 2011 11:09 AM (h1p5V)

159

Posted by: Christine Roemer at August 09, 2011 03:05 PM (E8oYF)

 

Then why did you put everything you have into Nutter Butter Blizzards?

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2011 11:10 AM (8Pc4N)

160 Actually this is a win-win for Perry. Yes, it will irk Iowa Republicans, but it also sets Perry up for the Iowa caucus in 2012.

Bachman will likely still be in the race at that point, so she will be the heavy favorite to do well as the "girl next door." That would normally be a huge boost to her campaign, but Romney is skipping Iowa and Perry theoretically just made them mad. This will diminish any boost she would otherwise have gotten by beating either of them straight-up. Both campaigns will be able to point to legitimate excuses for why they didn't win there.

My guess is that Perry's strategy is to come in with strong second place showings in both Iowa (where Bachmann will be strongest) and New Hampshire (where Romney will be strongest) and then take the lead in South Carolina which, SHOCKER! is where he will be announcing his intention to declare for the presidency.

Posted by: Jim B at August 09, 2011 11:10 AM (QD3//)

161 So you want to start with Utah and Montana? Hell, why not just pull states out of a hat.

I'm getting that wasn't intentional, but I still got a chuckle. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 11:11 AM (5H6zj)

162 may end up being an iconic photo like this one

Vietnam

Posted by: cherry π at August 09, 2011 03:05 PM (OhYCU)

yeah, pie, but an icon of what ??   Icons are... iconic, yes?

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 09, 2011 11:11 AM (UqKQV)

163 It is long past time for a National Primary Day and for Iowa, NH, and SC to all go take a flying leap.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 09, 2011 11:11 AM (/8/iw)

164 This thread is drier than Barney Frank's anus at a Playboy slumber party.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 09, 2011 11:11 AM (kUaEF)

165

"Meanwhile, Perry is scheduled to appear at the RedState gathering in Charleston, SC, this Saturday, and make his intentions for the future known. Which is meant to mean he won't be announcing -- he'll just be making it clear that he will announce at some point. "

 

maybe in iowa on sunday. see the other mccain

 

Posted by: newrouter at August 09, 2011 11:12 AM (j748o)

166 73 may end up being an iconic photo like this one Vietnam Posted by: cherry π at August 09, 2011 03:05 PM (OhYCU) No, that photo will disappear and never see the light of day again. The Mainstream Media will see to it.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 09, 2011 11:12 AM (kUaEF)

167 @172
or "guessing"

time for lunch, I guess

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 11:12 AM (5H6zj)

168 The linky has disappeared from the home page, but regarding the disorder in London, this mp3 of Mark Steyn is chilling. He describes how the decay of order and law might look After America. Very apropos of London today and the link @133 sorry no tinyurl http://www.steynonline.com/images/stories/books/aa%20question%206.mp3

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 11:12 AM (AZGON)

169 Drudge/AP:  Germany recommends a balanced budget for EU members as a requirement for solving the bloc's sovereign debt crisis.

Damn that extremest Ryan!

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 09, 2011 11:12 AM (yrGif)

170 Barney Frank farted.  That's the news of the day?  If it is, I don't want to know anything about content.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 09, 2011 11:12 AM (pcFc3)

171 Posted by: joncelli at August 09, 2011 03:04 PM (RD7QR)

If it helps, the man who knows the most about Texas Politics (other, perhaps, than God), Dr. Alan Saxe of UTA, says Perry is in.

I will point out, Dr. Saxe has never been wrong in a political prediction that I've ever known him to make (which is not the same as never, but it's still a relatively large number).  The closest he came, actually, was in November- he though Perry would only win by about 4 or 5 points.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 09, 2011 11:12 AM (8y9MW)

172 elect me again!!  I'll do better this time............

Posted by: Grant ( on the fitty-dollar dill ) at August 09, 2011 11:12 AM (UqKQV)

173 When I suggested that Britain would use water can, I was apparently being wildly optimistic.  This from Home Secretary Theresa May:

"The Home Secretary appeared to rule out sending water cannon or the Army onto the streets of the capital, despite a third night of violence. Speaking on Sky News, she said that police intelligence and the support of local communities would help quell the disturbances. “The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon,” she said. “The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities.”

Yeah, consent of communities, that's the ticket.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 11:12 AM (Hx5uv)

174 This thread is drier than Barbara Walters' twat on Bingo night at the retirement home. Posted by: CoolCzech

Are you kidding?!  I'm wetter than a sweat sock in a gym bag.  I haven't seen this many balls bouncing around since that three-way and Ted Kennedy's compound.  And I do mean POUND!  My cooter's still numb!

Posted by: Barbara Walters at August 09, 2011 11:13 AM (TXKVh)

175 Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 09, 2011 03:09 PM (h1p5V)

Being bred from Farmers, let me say it ticks them off, too.  Farmers may have won the Range wars in Texas, but the acrimony is still there.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 09, 2011 11:13 AM (8y9MW)

176

We need to redo the primaries.  I would arrange it into five or six regionals: Northeast, Southeast, Upper Midwest, Plains, Southwest, West Coast. 

I'd make a lottery. Draw ping pong balls, like they do for the NBA draft. Each party gets one primary the first week, one the second week, two the third week -- someone else can work out the details. Just pick the states at random.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 09, 2011 11:14 AM (gTGz3)

177   Then why did you put everything you have into Nutter Butter Blizzards? Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2011 03:10 PM (8Pc4N) --------------------------------------------------- My dimples are the only thing I get complimented on. I'm not giving them up!

Posted by: Christine Roemer at August 09, 2011 11:15 AM (E8oYF)

178

So the Perrys have a ranch? - Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 02:56 PM (5H6zj)

 

Whether he still has one, his FAMILY had one at one time. Those "logos" are actually brands that were used to identify a family's property in case a fence came down - they were instantly recognizable; "Oh, the Brown's cows got out again, better go see if they need help puttin' their fences back up."

It also helped know if someone was a rustler or not - get caught taking livestock to auction that you weren't authorized to sell, and you'd find yourself on the long end of a short rope in the old days.

Many families don't have the ranches/livestock any more, but they still retain rights to the brand; many of those families still use them with fond memories of times gone by.....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth at August 09, 2011 11:15 AM (MXC7a)

179 I am not a racist person by any stretch, but it's getting more and more difficult to not comment on the, let's say, chromaticity of the majority of rioters and flash mobs on both sides of the pond.

Posted by: Johnny at August 09, 2011 11:15 AM (iT/Iy)

180 One of the worlds financial capitols literally burning up; police with no plan to meaningfully use force to abate the riot.

The DOW, imitating a deep sea diver.

And were talking about.....Iowa.

OK.

Let's pretend we'll still have a Republic next year.

Perry may not be asked to guest lecture at Harvard in the new future, but a talented politician he is. This race will be Romney and !Romney with !Romney favored to win if it can be consolidated into one candidate. So with Palin not officially in, MB represents the greatest !Romney threat to Perry. In order to make a path to victory Perry has to convert a lot of potential MB support to Perry support. So the underhanded undermining of her public exposure is sure to follow.

Make no mistake. In order for Perry to beat Romney, he has to decimate MB first to take her poll share.

As far as Iowa. F* em. Their "time in the spotlight" isn't until they caucus. Their poll is just a indicator of what might happen in the Iowa Caucus, which an early indicator of what might happen in the early states, which is an early indicator of what might happen in the primary. I'm 4th generation "don't give a f*" at this point.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 09, 2011 11:15 AM (0q2P7)

181 #145 - Better to wait and do a proper campaign roll-out with a prepared candidate than to pull a Gingrich and kill yourself right out of the gate.

Remember that Perry has to get up and running with an infrastructure, line up donors and endorsements, put together a platform, get up to speed on all the national issues and do all of the hundred other things that running a presidential campaign entails.

He's not really "teasing" this: everybody knows he's running. What he's doing is delaying the OFFICIAL date so that he can enter with the biggest splash and the highest impact possible.

I'd rather have someone take the time to do it right than rush something and do it wrong. Haven't we had enough of that already?

Posted by: Jim B at August 09, 2011 11:17 AM (QD3//)

182

the pool's closed

everyone out

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 11:17 AM (G/zuv)

183

I am not a racist person by any stretch, but it's getting more and more difficult to not comment on the, let's say, chromaticity of the majority of rioters and flash mobs on both sides of the pond.

Posted by: Johnny at August 09, 2011 03:15 PM (iT/Iy)

I think the vast majority of Americans who would never point that out will probably be pointing it out more often in the future as we decide we can no longer afford to prop up anyone, let alone the welfare state.

Oh, and you're a racist.

</sarc off>

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 09, 2011 11:17 AM (sbV1u)

184 the Daily Mail online has 'the photo' and other amazing stuff

Britain sorts starts to wake up  --- link at hotair / headlines

Posted by: SantaRosaStan, , last of the Mochicans at August 09, 2011 11:18 AM (UqKQV)

185 There's an 80-point rally! After only a 2,000-point cliffdive since July 21! Summer of Obama!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 09, 2011 11:18 AM (lbo6/)

186 Herman Cain is doing the bus tour thingy in Iowa.

To kick it off, he got hotel accommodations in Nebraska.
(In my home town SOUTH Sioux City)

FIRST! Candidate to visit Nebraska, as The Other McCain pointed out.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 09, 2011 11:18 AM (+KHIt)

187 O/T, but it is even more depressing to think about the Seal Team6 now that we are being shown their faces and families. Pray for everybody they left behind.

Posted by: chillin the most at August 09, 2011 11:18 AM (6IV8T)

188 There is no reason why a state like Texas has to take a back seat to a state like Iowa, and I think our primary system invites a lot of soft-corruption such as ethanol subsidies.

We need a better way to pick our candidate. 

Posted by: Dustin at August 09, 2011 11:19 AM (519+h)

189 Dow up 150.  We're saved!

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 11:20 AM (Hx5uv)

190 In order to make a path to victory Perry has to convert a lot of potential MB support to Perry support. So the underhanded undermining of her public exposure is sure to follow.

That doesn't follow from your premise that Perry needs to consolidate the not Romney support and attract Bachmann's supporters. 

Look, when Bachmann first entered the race everyone thought it was a test run and really more about her raising her profile and garnering political power.  She did better than expected in the second debate and that's great, but I don't really think that changes anything.  I still think this is not a serious run by her - that her goal is more about being a player than it is about winning.  Not that she's unserious, just that she must realize she is not the optimal candidate for POTUS right now because of her lack of executive experience and still relatively low profile outside her base of support. 

I don't think Perry needs to run a negative campaign.  I think he can run a positive campaign and win, especially if Palin endorses him. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 11:22 AM (5H6zj)

191 There's only one logical solution; national primary day. Just trying to overcome the small-state gaming thing with more gaming is pointless.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 09, 2011 03:06 PM (DEcmU)

There would be nothing worse than a national primary day.  You'd get a Trump-like TV candidate.

Even Obama was going to lose the Democrat primaries, if it weren't for the superdelegates.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 09, 2011 11:23 AM (73tyQ)

192 to not comment on the, let's say, chromaticity of the majority of rioters and flash mobs on both sides of the pond. Non-achromatopist.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 11:23 AM (AZGON)

193 Dow up 150.  We're saved!

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 03:20 PM (Hx5uv)

 

Remember yesterday.  It dropped almost 60-100 points in the last 5 minutes.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 09, 2011 11:24 AM (pcFc3)

194 We need to redo the primaries. I would arrange it into five or six regionals: Northeast, Southeast, Upper Midwest, Plains, Southwest, West Coast. I'd make a lottery. Draw ping pong balls, like they do for the NBA draft. Each party gets one primary the first week, one the second week, two the third week -- someone else can work out the details. Just pick the states at random. Posted by: FireHorse at August 09, 2011 03:14 PM (gTGz3) Regionals based on economics and demographics, schedule and weight by Republican performance.

Posted by: Jean at August 09, 2011 11:26 AM (WkuV6)

195 What I like about a regional system is that it helps to streamline the campaigning.  It would be cheaper and more efficient if the candidates were working in regions, imho. 

And greener.  We're all about saving the planet, after all!

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 11:28 AM (5H6zj)

196 Can the Dow climb back over 11000?

Posted by: Jean at August 09, 2011 11:39 AM (WkuV6)

197 164Fuck Iowa. They've got what 3 electoral votes, and the whole state is dependent on farm subsidies. I don't have a lot of faith in a small state full of social cons who are firmly entrenched at the public trough.

Posted by: Bannor at August 09, 2011 03:08 PM (6AXh/)

Social cons who are firmly entrenched at the public trough are not conservatives.  They're Socialists.

Jesus didn't say to Peter "Make others feed my sheep through the coercive power of the government."

 

Posted by: Minuteman at August 09, 2011 11:40 AM (hbAPu)

198
  What would make this a win-win is Palin AND Perry both running. I still need to vet Perry, but if he proves out, then there would be no nose holding to vote for either.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 09, 2011 11:57 AM (ud5dN)

199 I still need to vet Perry, but if he proves out, then there would be no nose holding to vote for either.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 09, 2011 03:57 PM (ud5dN)

Rick Perry eval



http://is.gd/dRZAZq

Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2011 12:23 PM (M9Ie6)

200 Follow Vic's link if you want to learn more about Rick Perry. 

He's not perfect.  We shouldn't reject him unless someone with a better resume or more electability comes along, or he really screwed up, which I find unlikely.

Obama will blast him with as much negativity as Palin has suffered, but Perry's been under attack for a decade.

Posted by: Dustin at August 09, 2011 12:34 PM (519+h)

201 Jay In Ames posted all of the evals on his blog. If you page down they are all pretty much in one spot.

http://is.gd/FjTsPg

Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2011 12:41 PM (M9Ie6)

202 But no, Rick is not perfect, but none of them are. Out of the top tier candidates Bachmann is probably the most conservative. And it is a race between Romney and Huntsman for the most liberal.

Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2011 12:42 PM (M9Ie6)

203 For all the Palin supporters I have not done an eval on her because I don't think she is going to run.

Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2011 12:43 PM (M9Ie6)

204 This whole "Rick Perry hasn't really been vetted" thing that the left started and that some on the right have just taken as fact is a little ridiculous. Kay Bailey Hutchinsen dug up everything she could find on Perry as did his last opponent Bill White, they just didn't get to far beyond him redecorating a burned out Mansion (thanks for the arson, Libs!!), mandatory HPV vaccines, and the D's in College. Oh, and Liberals think it's a scandal to shoot a Coyote and not bury it. Really.

Posted by: ktgreat at August 09, 2011 12:45 PM (tZkcR)

205

Ryan is another country club RINO, who spent his time ramming through the debt bill abomination.  He can go to hell.

 

I want to see true conservatives, not Obama Lites.

 

No more McCains, Bushes, Romneys, Perrys, Pawlentys, and Specters.

Posted by: Molon Labe at August 09, 2011 01:26 PM (g5MrG)

206 Wow this is soo helpful I have been trying to figure this out on my own for a long time now. Hopefully making this change will help encourage discussion on my blog.

Posted by: Domestic Violets Audio Book at August 09, 2011 03:22 PM (rmJsH)

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