July 29, 2011

Peggy Noonan: Obama's Not A Revolutionary, He's Just A Loser
— Ace

I'm not sure if I think much of this column. Not that I object to name-calling Obama. I think that's fine. I just think her line of attack is wrong.

The line of attack that he's not a leader is an accurate one. Or that he is cowardly.

But a "loser"? I suppose, yes, but that's not the main problem.

And her assertion that "no one loves Obama"? Are you quite sure, Peggy?

Anyway, here are some excerpts.

The secret of Mr. Obama is that he isn't really very good at politics, and he isn't good at politics because he doesn't really get people....


Mr. Obama seemed brilliant at politics when he first emerged in 2004. He understood the nation's longing for unity. We're not divided into red states and blue, he said, we're Big Purple, we can solve our problems together. Four years later he read the lay of the land perfectly—really, perfectly....

The fact is, he's good at dismantling. He's good at critiquing. He's good at not being the last guy, the one you didn't like. But he's not good at building, creating, calling into being. He was good at summoning hope, but he's not good at directing it and turning it into something concrete that answers a broad public desire.

And so his failures in the debt ceiling fight. He wasn't serious, he was only shrewd—and shrewdness wasn't enough. He demagogued the issue—no Social Security checks—until he was called out, and then went on the hustings spouting inanities. He left conservatives scratching their heads: They could have made a better, more moving case for the liberal ideal as translated into the modern moment, than he did. He never offered a plan. In a crisis he was merely sly. And no one likes sly, no one respects it.

So he is losing a battle in which he had superior forces—the presidency, the U.S. Senate. In the process he revealed that his foes have given him too much mystique. He is not a devil, an alien, a socialist. He is a loser. And this is America, where nobody loves a loser.

If you care, Mediaite has video of Noonan talking about this column on Scarborough.

I'm amused that Tommy Christopher tut-tuts her for her childishness...

In a Wall Street Journal op-ed Friday morning, conservative columnist Peggy Noonan channeled her inner middle-schooler, calling President Obama a “loser,” and likening White House Press Secretary Jay Carney to a “ferret with flop sweat.”

... right before attempting to make a lame joke about that idiotic "Republicans watched The Town!" scandal that liberals apparently think is a pretty damn good talking point.

Tommy, if you want to play the grown up, act the grown up.


Posted by: Ace at 01:38 PM | Comments (146)
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1

I seem to recall Harry Reid calling W a loser at one point, and we all mocked him for that.

This is weaksauce compared to that.  Why is Noonan still employed?

Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 29, 2011 01:40 PM (zgHLA)

2 In theory, Peggy's still on our side, but I never find much evidence of intelligence in her writing.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2011 01:40 PM (XIXhw)

3 Friday news dump am I right?

Posted by: E.M. August at July 29, 2011 01:41 PM (zeBNm)

4 WHOA!!!  Fox showing Boehner on house floor.  He is FIRED up.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 29, 2011 01:42 PM (EIlEQ)

5 whoa, boner is rocking on the floor of the house.

Posted by: robtr at July 29, 2011 01:42 PM (MtwBb)

6 Boner's goin nuts, gettem a hanky stat!!

Posted by: CaptainCarbon at July 29, 2011 01:42 PM (D8vUP)

7 Peggy Noonan, Tommy Christopher, John Stewart aka as three people I usually forget are even alive until someone tweets or blogs about them.

Posted by: Nora at July 29, 2011 01:42 PM (VxqUc)

8 Wait... wait... now I can't figure out which clique is the cool clique. It used to be on the right, but then I thought it was on the left, and now maybe it's on the right again. I had better give this some time to sink in.

Posted by: Peggy Noonan at July 29, 2011 01:42 PM (AZGON)

9 I'm not sure if I think much of this column. Not that I object to name-calling Obama. I think that's fine. I just think her line of attack is wrong.   she's a fucking idiot. Fuck her, fuck them , fuck them all.

Posted by: dr kill at July 29, 2011 01:43 PM (le5qc)

10 Boehner showing some passion. It's about time!

Posted by: Your Sissy Congress at July 29, 2011 01:43 PM (piMMO)

11 Political theater sure, but fun to watch non the less.

Posted by: CaptainCarbon at July 29, 2011 01:43 PM (D8vUP)

12

fuck Boehner! he's a lair.. out there acting all puffed up like he's doing something important, when he's done NOTHING!

strutting, caterwauling buffon...

 

 

Posted by: Shoey at July 29, 2011 01:44 PM (SPX0c)

13

But a "loser"? I suppose, yes, but that's not the main problem.

Women have a finely tuned nose for a man flailing around, getting beat, acting out, and most importantly, looking weak and impotent.

I agree it wasn't her finest column (she hasn't had many in years), but I'm not surprised she went with the loser tag.

Especially from a gal who couldn't help getting "excited" for Owaffle back in 07-08.

She's trying to reconcile her....emotions.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at July 29, 2011 01:44 PM (aVGMa)

14 Watching this footage from the floor is brutal. It's like some weird alien dance.

Posted by: E.M. August at July 29, 2011 01:44 PM (zeBNm)

15 "It's time for this administration to put something on the table."

-John Boehner
Fox News

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at July 29, 2011 05:42 PM (Lt/Za)

 

You know, it's a damn shame decorum prevented him from phrasing that as, "It's time for this administration to nut up or shut up!"

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 29, 2011 01:44 PM (4q5tP)

16 Human Weathervane Noonan Moves With Breeze, film at 11

Posted by: three sifty moon at July 29, 2011 01:45 PM (ECjvn)

17

WOW!  first time i've ever seen Boner yelling......

Posted by: Racefan at July 29, 2011 01:45 PM (Vuxel)

18 sounds like Peggy finally fell off of Obama's dick. 

Posted by: Bannor at July 29, 2011 01:45 PM (l8Ytm)

19

Women have a finely tuned nose for a man flailing around, getting beat, acting out, and most importantly, looking weak and impotent.

I agree it wasn't her finest column (she hasn't had many in years), but I'm not surprised she went with the loser tag.


True. He does not appear manly by any measure.

I am perfectly and completely fine with the "loser" label

Posted by: Your Sissy Congress at July 29, 2011 01:46 PM (piMMO)

20 >> The fact is, he's good at dismantling. He's good at critiquing. He's good at not being the last guy, the one you didn't like. But he's not good at building, creating, calling into being. Sounds like the resume of a community organizer. Who could have possibly predicted this outcome back in '07/'08?

Posted by: Andy at July 29, 2011 01:46 PM (bGzQc)

21 Peggy would know. She sees one in the mirror every day.

I would rather burn my eyes out with a hot ember than read her screeds.

Now, all of a sudden- he's a loser.

Posted by: Marcus at July 29, 2011 01:46 PM (CHrmZ)

22 One of you assholes just made me watch 18 seconds of  Fox Force Five. What a great idea for a show!11!! Replace Uma Thurman with Blob Belchtel. Hahahahahaha.
Next?

Posted by: dr kill at July 29, 2011 01:46 PM (le5qc)

23 19 WOW!  first time i've ever seen Boner yelling......


He yells a lot, but not like that.

I also noted some of the no votes were enthusiastically clapping during the standing ovation.



Posted by: 80sBaby at July 29, 2011 01:47 PM (o2lIv)

24 Boehner showing some passion. It's about time!

I sure hope he doesn't break a nail and miss drinks with Pelosi and Reid tonight.

He was going to wear his best new Judge Smails outfit.

I kid. I hope he gives them hell.

Posted by: three sifty moon at July 29, 2011 01:47 PM (ECjvn)

25 damn italics!

Posted by: Your Sissy Congress at July 29, 2011 01:48 PM (piMMO)

26 At least Noonan spelled "loser" correctly.  She's got that going for her.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 29, 2011 01:48 PM (4q5tP)

27

why did he push this bill?

why this bill?

 

why not CCB?

 

fuck Boehner and the horse he rode in on, acting all tough when the ONLY reason he pushed this bill was for his own inflated ego and re-election prospects.

 

it's dumb shit like this that gets people primaried.

 

 

Posted by: Shoey at July 29, 2011 01:48 PM (SPX0c)

28 So, once Obama is gone, what next for the Dems? Is it going to be all Hilary, all the time? Can't see anything else.

Posted by: Ambrose at July 29, 2011 01:48 PM (r5VU5)

29 He is not a devil, an alien, a socialist. He is a loser. And this is America, where nobody loves a loser. Yeah. But unfortunately, he is a loser that managed to increase the size of government in America by 50% , not to mention the socialization and destruction of our healthcare system. And destruction of our space program. And assault on our system of international alliances. NONE of which may be reversible.

Posted by: CoolCzech at July 29, 2011 01:49 PM (kUaEF)

30 Sssssshhhh, quiet. They're just getting to the part about his steely nerve and law professor intellect. Ssssshhhhh. Down in front

Posted by: This Old Althouse at July 29, 2011 01:50 PM (le5qc)

31  sounds like Peggy finally fellslid off of Obama's dick. 

Posted by: Bannor at July 29, 2011 05:45 PM (l8Ytm)

FTFY

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 29, 2011 01:50 PM (yQWNf)

32 peggy is simply brooks with a vagina

Posted by: tgs at July 29, 2011 01:50 PM (+80jP)

33 I would love for someone to yell at Hochul, "You lie!"

Posted by: 80sBaby at July 29, 2011 01:50 PM (o2lIv)

34 Mr. Obama seemed brilliant at politics when he first emerged in 2004. He understood the nation's longing for unity. We're not divided into red states and blue, he said, we're Big Purple, we can solve our problems together. Four years later he read the lay of the land perfectly—really, perfectly.... Uh... "Big Purple" seemed like political brilliance to Peggy Noonan? Sorry, Peggy, but you're still a total douche.

Posted by: CoolCzech at July 29, 2011 01:51 PM (kUaEF)

35 31 So, once Obama is gone, what next for the Dems? Is it going to be all Hilary, all the time? Can't see anything else.
_______

You wish.

Posted by: Debby Wasserman-Schultz, the Anti-JAP at July 29, 2011 01:51 PM (EG/p1)

36 ARE WE GOING TO TELL THE GREATEST GENERATION THAT WE DROPPED THE BALL? Well baby boomers.... you damn well oughtta. Speaking as a millennial, fuck all of you old folks. My generation hasn't ruined anything... yet.

Posted by: E.M. August at July 29, 2011 01:52 PM (zeBNm)

37 "All ye House-headers have before now heard me give orders about a wide vote. Look ye! d'ye see this Federal note of Reserve?"--holding up a broad bright bill to the sun--"it is a seven-week T-note, men. D'ye see it? Mr. Upton, hand me yon top-maul." While Upton was getting the hammer, Boehner, without speaking, was slowly rubbing the T-note against the lapels of his jacket, as if to heighten its lustre, and without using any words was meanwhile lowly smoking to himself, producing a sound so strangely muffled and inarticulate that it seemed the mechanical humming of the wheels of his vitality in him. Receiving the top-maul from Upton, he advanced towards the podium with the hammer uplifted in one hand, exhibiting the note with the other, and with a high raised voice exclaiming: "Whosoever of ye raises me a wide yea vote with a wrinkled brow and a crooked jaw; whosoever of ye raises me that wide-headed mandate, he shall have this T-note, my boys!" "Huzza! huzza!" cried the Congressmen, as with swinging Federal Registers they hailed the act of nailing the note to the podium. "Captain Ahab," said Upton, "that wide vote must be the same that some call Monstrous Debt." "Monstrous Debt?" shouted Boehner. "Do ye know the wide vote then, Uppie?"

Posted by: Herman Melville at July 29, 2011 01:52 PM (AZGON)

38 The problem with the the stupid 5 show is it somehow comes across as the Bob Beckel show. Maybe cause he's just the physically biggest.

And the Red Eye dude, Gutfeld, looks a kid at the kiddie table sitting there on the edge.

And then the dude in the center is just all sorts of infomercial dork.

Don't make the left-wing dude the coolest guy on the show.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at July 29, 2011 01:52 PM (QcFbt)

39 Jeebus, Ace. Are you mainlining 5-Hour Energy?

Posted by: Congressional Boodjay Orifice at July 29, 2011 01:52 PM (HmCnI)

40 BTW, The Five stinks.

Fox is attempting to create a chemistry that simply does not exist.

Posted by: As IF... at July 29, 2011 01:52 PM (piMMO)

41 I demand the we pass the O super-secret double probation plan.

Posted by: #compromise at July 29, 2011 01:52 PM (mf8Ua)

42

Noonan?  Peggy Noonan?  There was a time when I thought a lot of little Peggy, but not since the '90's.

Human weathervane is right.  I think she is the  metaphysical  aunt of "curious", and just about as profound. They both live in New York, New York, right??

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at July 29, 2011 01:52 PM (sJTmU)

43

Welcome to the party, pal!

Screw you Peggy. You slobbered this guy's knob every bit as much as Brooks and Mathews. We tried telling you, but you were so much smarter than us rubes.

F you, you silly tired old bint.

Posted by: The Schwalbe : © at July 29, 2011 01:52 PM (UU0OF)

44

Is Boehner gonna still be able to carry the drink tray at OBlahBLahs birthday bash or is that contingent on compromise passing.

Did he get so bold as to screw up the waitress at the birthday bash gig?

Posted by: Tea Party Proud and Gonna Stay Loud at July 29, 2011 01:53 PM (vXqv3)

45 32 Kimberly Guilfoyle has great lips for skull fucking! Posted by: Fish the Impaler at July 29, 2011 05:49 PM (Lt/Za) Is it just me, or does Kimberly look a tad... Horsey?

Posted by: CoolCzech at July 29, 2011 01:53 PM (kUaEF)

46 The faculty lounge doesn't think he's a loser. They think he's sensitive. And visionary. And moral. And darkly handsome. (They also like the crease of his pants.) Conservatives are so mean.

Posted by: Cricket at July 29, 2011 01:53 PM (DrC22)

47 Scarborough tore Paul Krugman a new one this morning as well although he did it by comparing Krugman to those out of touch bloggers who post from their mom's basement.  Present company excepted, of course.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 29, 2011 01:53 PM (Hx5uv)

48 Peggy Noonan, Tommy Christopher, John Stewart aka as three people I usually forget are even alive until someone tweets or blogs about them.

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: That Bitch Kathleen Parker at July 29, 2011 01:54 PM (kqqGm)

49 Speaking as a millennial, fuck all of you old folks. My generation hasn't ruined anything... yet.

Really? Just who the fuck came out in droves to vote for that clown?

Posted by: As IF... at July 29, 2011 01:55 PM (piMMO)

50

Re: "peggy is simply brooks with a vagina"

Wait, that's two vaginas then.

 

Posted by: Walsingham at July 29, 2011 01:55 PM (dCigj)

51 Is it just me, or does Kimberly look a tad... Horsey? I don't know what you mean.

Posted by: Sarah Jessica Palomino at July 29, 2011 01:56 PM (AZGON)

52 Speaking as a millennial, fuck all of you old folks. My generation hasn't ruined anything... yet. Really? Have you listened to music radio lately?

Posted by: CoolCzech at July 29, 2011 01:56 PM (kUaEF)

53 Re: "peggy is simply brooks with a vagina" Wait, that's two vaginas then. One woman, four cups.

Posted by: George Orwell at July 29, 2011 01:56 PM (AZGON)

54 55 Re: "peggy is simply brooks with a vagina" Wait, that's two vaginas then. Posted by: Walsingham at July 29, 2011 05:55 PM (dCigj) Two vajajays make a scrunt, tis true...

Posted by: CoolCzech at July 29, 2011 01:57 PM (kUaEF)

55 36peggy is simply brooks with a vagina

Posted by: tgs at July 29, 2011 05:50 PM (+80jP)

 

I thought Brooks was Brooks with a vagina?  does this mean Peggy has 2?

Posted by: Bannor at July 29, 2011 01:57 PM (l8Ytm)

56 O-bah-muhh The Destroyer? No, no,no he's like God.

Posted by: Evan Thomas at July 29, 2011 01:58 PM (GgHd2)

57 Boehner should be careful, all that yelling could cause his vaginal mesh implant to re-prolapse. That hurts.
Believe me, I know.

Posted by: This Old Althouse at July 29, 2011 01:58 PM (le5qc)

58 Speaking as a millennial, fuck all of you old folks. My generation hasn't ruined anything... yet.

You mills voted Doofus in. As a result, we will be fucking you. Look for me in your withholding tax.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 29, 2011 01:58 PM (Hx5uv)

59

I thought Brooks was Brooks with a vagina?  does this mean Peggy has 2?

Posted by: Bannor at July 29, 2011 05:57 PM (l8Ytm)

Yes.  The once on her face talks!

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 29, 2011 01:59 PM (yQWNf)

60 Have you listened to music radio lately?

Oh dear, CC.

You are old now.  At least you didn't refer to it as the Victrola or that damned new-fangled gadget.

Posted by: As IF... at July 29, 2011 01:59 PM (piMMO)

61 They're trotting out Press Secretary Jay Carney, who stands there looking like a ferret with flop sweat as he insists President Obama is still at the table, still manning the phones and calling shots.

The best line ... "meh" for the rest.

Posted by: No Whining at July 29, 2011 01:59 PM (HmCnI)

62 I kind of miss Corn-Mitt.

Posted by: George Orwell at July 29, 2011 01:59 PM (AZGON)

63 Wasn't she at that special super sekret dinner with Larry Kudlow?  The one for conservatives hosted by BO?  That Kudlow didn't realize he had to remain quiet about? 

Yeah that's when I stopped reading her column.

Posted by: curious at July 29, 2011 01:59 PM (k1rwm)

64 Uh. Fabio has bigger boobs than I do.

Posted by: As IF... at July 29, 2011 01:59 PM (piMMO)

65 What color IS Gutfeld's sweater? Pubic? --still love'm

Posted by: rightwingva at July 29, 2011 01:59 PM (btDMH)

66 But he could have a good malpractice case if he calls Steinberg.

Posted by: This Old Althouse at July 29, 2011 02:00 PM (le5qc)

67 AZGON@9,

Exactly.

Reagan did her best work.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 29, 2011 02:01 PM (r4t7/)

68 "What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: That Bitch Kathleen Parker at July 29, 2011 05:54 PM"

No, chopped liver has a use.

Posted by: Nora at July 29, 2011 02:02 PM (VxqUc)

69 Speaking of Scarborough, what the hell happened to that guy? He used to be an OK dude, now he just seems like a dumbass.

Exhibit A: http://tinyurl.com/3ps2tdl

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at July 29, 2011 02:03 PM (+lsX1)

70 Ahhhhh.  Sweet, sweet progressive tears.  Mmmmmm. So good.

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 29, 2011 02:04 PM (Hx5uv)

71 It's times like this when I'd love to motorboat Peggy Noonan.  But my friends, someone will have to help me to my feet when I'm finished.

Posted by: Jonny McMaverick at July 29, 2011 02:04 PM (p2IBw)

72 64 Speaking as a millennial, fuck all of you old folks. My generation hasn't ruined anything... yet.

You mills voted Doofus in. As a result, we will be fucking you. Look for me in your withholding tax.

I look forward to swilling at the entitlement trough that the millenials will be providing for me.

Suckers.

Posted by: Jack at July 29, 2011 02:05 PM (8IAHO)

73 He only wins for himself.  For America, he loses.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 29, 2011 02:05 PM (pdRb1)

74 Posted by: Fish the Impaler at July 29, 2011 05:53 PM (Lt/Za)

Only if she did it pant-less.

Posted by: Marcus at July 29, 2011 02:05 PM (fLiRs)

75

Despite the hating (well deserved) on Noonan, she used to put out some damn good stuff.

Yeah, she has always been more feelings based, not analytical at all, but she was good at it.  A nice change of pace from Sowell, Hanson, and other top notch right of center types.

Unfortunately, she acquired an unhealthy, irrational loathing of Bush, and for an emotions based writer, it led her down a pretty unfortunate path. 

Posted by: Delta Smelt at July 29, 2011 02:06 PM (ayzM7)

76 A great many people loved the Obama narrative but I've long suspected few even like the man himself.   I include a lot

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at July 29, 2011 02:06 PM (YcRhS)

77 Noonan: In a crisis he was merely sly. And no one likes sly, no one respects it. Orwell: Return your mind to November 2008 and look in the mirror. You balding turkey buzzard.

Posted by: George Orwell at July 29, 2011 02:07 PM (AZGON)

78 O-bah-muhh's not a loser. He is kind of a Dick though.

Posted by: Mark Halperin at July 29, 2011 02:07 PM (GgHd2)

79 True. He does not appear manly by any measure.

Nope, never did.  So why did so many women faint with ecstasy when he came on TV and then vote for him?  Because he's fragile and sensitive?  Christ.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at July 29, 2011 02:08 PM (btzPD)

80

Posted by: WalrusRex at July 29, 2011 06:04 PM (Hx5uv)

That was fun, thanks!

Kind of makes you want to see the debt ceiling stay the same just for the entertainment value. And the optics of the President celebrating his 50th with the country in turmoil.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at July 29, 2011 02:08 PM (GKQDR)

81 I'm will be calling my senior senator about Reid's bill:

"Right now, Democrats are looking to about 11 gettable GOP votes: Sens. Olympia Snowe (R-ME), Susan Collins (R-ME), Bob Corker (R-TN), Mark Kirk (R-IL), Scott Brown (R-MA), Lamar Alexander (R-TN), Lisa Murkowski (R-AK), Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), Mike Crapo (R-ID), and Tom Coburn (R-OK). The last three were the Republican members of the Gang of Six deficit reduction group. (TPM)"

Posted by: 80sBaby at July 29, 2011 02:08 PM (o2lIv)

82

Speaking as a millennial, fuck all of you old folks. My generation hasn't ruined anything... yet.

Why don't you just skip the government and send your paycheck (fully endorsed, of course) directly to my vacation fund.  After all, it was your generation who elected Dick and made all of this possible.  Thank you so much.

Posted by: Soona at July 29, 2011 02:08 PM (lEA+Q)

83 Ace,

I think that the tack she took is less important than the idea that PEGGY NOONAN, the one adult among the Republicans, has finally been pushed away from Obama, and criticized him in terms not of the Beltway, but of America.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 29, 2011 02:08 PM (LH6ir)

84 Voting now

Posted by: 80sBaby at July 29, 2011 02:09 PM (o2lIv)

85 I understand all the hate for Noonan because she wrote nice things about Barack Obama back in 2008 and this is an unforgivable sin blah blah blah...but if nothing more she's a useful barometer and this is a fucking vicious indictment.

By the way, you people accusing her of just recently jumping onto the anti-Obama bandwagon are wide off the mark...she's been ripping a hole into his side for quite a long time now, since 2009 at least.  I'm totally open to criticizing her for any number of reasons, but she's been pretty eloquent about how pathetic Obama's seemed for quite some time now.

Oh, and anybody who says Kimberly Guilfoyle is ugly is presumptively gay. 

Posted by: Jeff B. at July 29, 2011 02:09 PM (hIWe1)

86 These dopes on Fox are talking about a possible double dip recession.  Why are they afraid to call it a depression?  That's what it is.  There has never been a recovery.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 29, 2011 02:10 PM (yQWNf)

87 This is rich coming from somebody who supported Obama in '08

I remember Al Rantel, who was a very popular radio host here in los angeles and was a very conservative gay man.  Suddenly, he went Chucky J, and started supporting Obama because he was 'uniting' or something.

Yeah, his ratings fell by 90% and his many years of hard work supporting the conservative cause is forgotten.. and it really makes you wonder if he meant what he was saying the whole time.  Thats where Peggy comes in.  She's a professional republican.  She doesn't believe anything she says.

The only reason she has a voice is because she wrote the challenger disaster speech for Regan. 

A conservative could never support anybody like Obama.  NEVER.  Anyone who has, should be ignored forever.  Goodbye Peggy.  YOU are a loser

Posted by: Reid and Pelosi's Xanax dealer at July 29, 2011 02:11 PM (eXQfZ)

88

Oh, and anybody who says Kimberly Guilfoyle is ugly is presumptively gay. 

This.

Damn, Jeff B, I'm agreeing with you on Noonan and KG....you are going to get people thinkin I'm a RINO. 

Heh.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at July 29, 2011 02:12 PM (24Jxj)

89 You old timers should consider cutting the kids some slack. They be learning a valuable lesson right about now, the same sort of lessons that lead to Reagan's victory.
We all were raised to tell the truth and love our country. It is a hard lesson to learn that you can never ever vote Democrat, and that voting for the GOP requires holding your nose.
Just pull the big handle Jr, you will be fine.

Posted by: dr kill at July 29, 2011 02:12 PM (le5qc)

90 Oh, and anybody who says Kimberly Guilfoyle is ugly is presumptively gay. NTTAWWT, of course.

Posted by: George Orwell at July 29, 2011 02:12 PM (AZGON)

91 Posted by: WalrusRex at July 29, 2011 06:04 PM (Hx5uv)

Great stuff!

My vote for stupidest, most ignorant comment goes to Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

“This is almost like dictatorship.”

Wow. The Republicans control one house of congress, and apparently that confers dictatorial powers.

I think that the mayonnaise she uses in her hair has leaked into her brain and damaged the three functioning synapses.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 29, 2011 02:13 PM (LH6ir)

92 Funny she's just figuring this out when a lot of us knew this back in 2008.

Posted by: Kevin_Thompson at July 29, 2011 02:13 PM (tuRe2)

93 These dopes on Fox are talking about a possible double dip recession.  Why are they afraid to call it a depression?  That's what it is.  There has never been a recovery.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 29, 2011 06:10 PM (yQWNf)

 

Well, depression is such a depressing term..........

Posted by: Soona at July 29, 2011 02:13 PM (lEA+Q)

94 In theory, Peggy's still on our side, but I never find much evidence of intelligence in her writing. Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2011 05:40 PM (XIXhw) I actually have always liked her writing. The trick is to understand that she doesn't write about conservative politics. She writes about the American zeitgeist, and her strength is that she understands probably better than any other writer how the American voting public will react to political maneuvers. Her assessment of Obama's success in 2008 is often attributed to some sort of "admiration" or "excitement" on her part, but all she ever did was explain what made him attractive to voters. And she was right.

Posted by: Caiwyn at July 29, 2011 02:14 PM (IxBYN)

95 Speaking as a millennial, fuck all of you old folks. My generation hasn't ruined anything... yet. Posted by: E.M. August at July 29, 2011 05:52 PM

Didn't Barry win your demographic by more than 30 percent?

Posted by: huerfano at July 29, 2011 02:15 PM (aZLY2)

96 House voting now.

Posted by: Soona at July 29, 2011 02:15 PM (lEA+Q)

97 Nope, never did.  So why did so many women faint with ecstasy when he came on TV and then vote for him?  Because he's fragile and sensitive?  Christ.

Because they were paid?

Posted by: As IF... at July 29, 2011 02:15 PM (piMMO)

98 Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. “This is almost like dictatorship.” Wow. The Republicans control one house of congress Little known DWS quote: "A gummi bear... it's almost like an orgasm. Or so I've heard. I've only had gummi bears."

Posted by: George Orwell at July 29, 2011 02:15 PM (AZGON)

99 Oh, and anybody who says Kimberly Guilfoyle is ugly is presumptively gay.

If that's what ugly looks like, then what do you call the ugly chicks from high school?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 29, 2011 02:16 PM (LH6ir)

100 Jeff B.: "Oh, and anybody who says Kimberly Guilfoyle is ugly is presumptively gay."

At least we can agree on that. Unity!

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 29, 2011 02:16 PM (r4t7/)

101 4 WHOA!!!  Fox showing Boehner on house floor.  He is FIRED up.

Posted by: Lady in Black at July 29, 2011 05:42 PM (EIlEQ)


Sounded drunk and desperate to me.

Posted by: alexthedude at July 29, 2011 02:16 PM (sUnsW)

102 We don't have to love O-bah-muhh, but we do have to vote for him.

Posted by: The Black Population at July 29, 2011 02:17 PM (GgHd2)

103 --He understood the nation's longing for unity.

Longing for unity?  No, that was an invention of the press.  When Democrats are in charge it's "shut up we won", and when Republicans are in charge it's "you don't have a mandate and should make sure everything is bipartisan".  If people were really longing for unity there would have been a whole hell of a lot less vitiol aimed at Bush.  The left wasn't longing for unity - they were longing for total victory.

They got it, too, and it only took them two years to turn us into Argentina.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2011 02:17 PM (XIXhw)

104 Fox showing Boehner on house floor. He is FIRED up. ------ Sounded drunk and desperate to me. Sometimes they look the same.

Posted by: guys after 12AM at the bar at July 29, 2011 02:18 PM (AZGON)

105 He's not a loser, he's a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Jimmuy at July 29, 2011 02:18 PM (W789i)

106 105 Speaking as a millennial, fuck all of you old folks. My generation hasn't ruined anything... yet. Posted by: E.M. August at July 29, 2011 05:52 PM

Didn't Barry win your demographic by more than 30 percent?

Posted by: huerfano at July 29, 2011 06:15 PM (aZLY2)

Yep.  I don't feel sorry for them - they're going to get what they deserve, good and hard.

Posted by: Ace's liver at July 29, 2011 02:19 PM (XIXhw)

107

Peggy was for it, before she was against it....

She should right a column on what EFF she was thinking when she fell head over heels for this guy

Posted by: JoeNYC at July 29, 2011 02:20 PM (J5JOi)

108 Boehner bill passed.

Posted by: Soona at July 29, 2011 02:20 PM (lEA+Q)

109 I don't feel sorry for them - they're going to get what they deserve, good and hard. Unfortunately many of them will never make the connection between their vote and their fate. Many of the people who hire me are mid 20s to late 30s and to this day they see no flaws in Lord Dick Soetero's reign of benevolence. Of course, I'm in a large city... so blue voters.

Posted by: George Orwell at July 29, 2011 02:21 PM (AZGON)

110 Boehner bill passed.

Posted by: Soona at July 29, 2011 06:20 PM (lEA+Q)

The Republic is saved.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 29, 2011 02:22 PM (yQWNf)

111 Bill passed.

Now all sorts of REALLY GOOD SHIT IS GONNA HAPPEN.

Posted by: sifty at July 29, 2011 02:24 PM (ECjvn)

112

The Republic is saved.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at July 29, 2011 06:22 PM (yQWNf)

 

It'll be voted down in the senate by this time tomorrow, if not tonight. 

Posted by: Soona at July 29, 2011 02:26 PM (lEA+Q)

113 The fact is, he's good at dismantling. He's good at critiquing. He's good at not being the last guy, the one you didn't like. But he's not good at building, creating, calling into being. He was good at summoning hope, but he's not good at directing it and turning it into something concrete that answers a broad public desire.reading something prepared for him from a teleprompter, but not thinking, not leading.

FIFH.

He's an empty-suit with people behind him to tell him what to say.

Posted by: nickless at July 29, 2011 02:26 PM (MMC8r)

114

Peggy has had a good ride.  I read "What I Saw at the Revolution" some 20 years ago, and it was interesting, but not nearly as profound as I thought it would be.  Re-examining a lot of the book now, she clearly had a lot of the qualities of a "centrist" Republican (called by some a RINO!), in that she styled herself a conservative (a social con in some ways, being a traditional Catholic), but still somewhat sympathetic to "Big Government". This is the weakness of the modern centrist Republicans from Rockefeller, through Nixon, Bush the Elder and Younger, Giuliani, and a host of others.  They aren't bad people, but they helped enable the growth of the Welfare State Fiscal Disaster which has finally (as promised years ago) overtaken us.

What has happened to the Republicans, starting with the 1994 election, is a growing group that is finally willing to say "STOP" to the Leviathan, and really cut it, and mean it.  We aren't there yet (people thought we were in 2010), but we are getting closer.  I just hope it isn't too late.

Peggy is beginning to "sense" something is amiss with Obama. As Delta Smelt indicates, she is an emotional writer, but she will never profoundly or intellectually change her "centrist" outlook.  She is what she is.  She, like many "intelligent" women, were seduced by the apparent youth and charm of Obama (the exotic  "Other") in 2008.  But he is indeed an empty suit, as others discerned about him in 2008.  There is no exotic intellect, nor profound insights or special gifts. He is a glib  and shallow man, who is inculcated with all the trite liberal - leftist  ideologies, with no profound character or personality.

Loser? Just profoundly unqualified to ever be President. Thanks Peggy, just 3 years too late.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at July 29, 2011 02:28 PM (sJTmU)

115 So why can't he be a revolutionary AND a loser?  Are revolutionaries on the left ever anything but failures?

Posted by: Voluble at July 29, 2011 02:29 PM (JKX4x)

116

Well, depression is such a depressing term..........

Posted by: Soona at July 29, 2011 06:13 PM (lEA+Q)


Yup,  and recession has the word recess in it which is synonymous with play time.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 29, 2011 02:29 PM (pdRb1)

117

The odds that Boehner submits another bill to the House floor for voting before Monday stand at 3:2.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at July 29, 2011 06:25 PM (G/MYk)

 

Watching the congressmen while the voting was happening.  I think for most of them, it's all just a grand game.  Sad. 

Posted by: Soona at July 29, 2011 02:30 PM (lEA+Q)

118 I tried to post a list of definite no votes but it keeps marking it as spam.

Whip List

Posted by: 80sBaby at July 29, 2011 02:30 PM (o2lIv)

119 If you missed the insight of what Obama was and wasn't back in 2008, you probably shouldn't talk about it much less put your thoughts to paper. You kinda out yourself as incompetent.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 29, 2011 02:33 PM (r4t7/)

120 128 So why can't he be a revolutionary AND a loser?  Are revolutionaries on the left ever anything but failures?

Posted by: Voluble at July 29, 2011 06:29 PM (JKX4x)


His revolution is straight out of 1917

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 29, 2011 02:33 PM (pdRb1)

121 Shut up Peggy, just STFFU.  You supported Obama in '08.  You drank the Kool-Aid.  You're the worst kind of Obama critic -- the person who not only should have known better, but actually did.  You wanted to be hip.  GFY

Posted by: SFGoth at July 29, 2011 02:33 PM (dZ756)

122 yea, good old peggy... gushing effusively when obama won the election and now gushing effusively that he's crashing and burning...lisa murkowski has more principles

Posted by: infidelphia at July 29, 2011 02:34 PM (kKWmw)

123 The sad thing is, wasn't Noonan pretty hot back in the day?

Posted by: SFGoth at July 29, 2011 02:35 PM (dZ756)

124 I wonder if she tilts her head after punctuating a sentence...

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at July 29, 2011 02:37 PM (r4t7/)

125 You have to hand it to her, she built a career out of writing a couple of speeches for Reagan.

Posted by: curious at July 29, 2011 02:45 PM (k1rwm)

126 Noonan is objectively wrong about at least one thing in her essay. Maybe among the people she knows there's not much love left for Obama, but I doubt she spends much time in the lefty fever swamps.

The sad, depressing truth is that there are still a lot of people who genuinely love Obama. They still believe he's the smartest President ever. They still believe he's going to give them everything on a silver platter and pay for it by taxing corporate jets and the Koch brothers. They still believe he is the only thing saving America from a pack of evil racist Teabaggers who want to murder gay people and start nuclear wars. They really believe all that shit.

And in November of 2012 they'll be out in force, voting for him, urging others to do the same, scrabbling in the sofa cushions to find some scrap of money they haven't yet donated to his campaign, and (of course) trolling every blog they can find.

Conservatives have won a narrow tactical victory here. We kept the Germans from taking Verdun and cost them some blood and treasure. But the trench lines haven't budged at all and they're still training stormtroopers for the big push next year. We need to be ready to volunteer, pound the pavement, write letters, donate money, hold signs, and VOTE.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 29, 2011 02:56 PM (vlBcS)

127 Obama's Not A Revolutionary, He's Just A Loser

Maybe Barry is our Erg Loughner.

Posted by: toby928™ at July 29, 2011 02:57 PM (GTbGH)

128 Noonan just can't cope with reality and is regressing. Sometimes, it's malice and not incompetence.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at July 29, 2011 02:59 PM (bxiXv)

129 Yeah, its no big deal. Peg read about me in Mr. Sammler's Planet and wanted to hook up. She loves her some Big Purple.

Posted by: Big Purple at July 29, 2011 03:07 PM (qwK3S)

130 Kimberly Guilfoyle could stand to dial back the eyeliner by about 94%.
If that makes you call me gay, so be it.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at July 29, 2011 03:09 PM (a5ljo)

131 Noonan makes her living writing about politics but somehow missed all of the troubling signals in the mysteriously incomplete personal history of this affirmative action, cult of personality, community organizing Alinsky acolyte?

C'mon now.

Posted by: ontherocks at July 29, 2011 03:10 PM (HBqDo)

132

I read the WSJ and Peggy was all over him in 2008, what happened to her, did she lose her sanity?  Once you lose it, you've lost it and she cannot regain her creditibility. If I see a column by her, I don't even look at it.

Another I was for it before I was against him!

Posted by: CarolT at July 29, 2011 03:10 PM (+wNWT)

133

Obama is not a revolutionary.  He is even worse, a faux revolutionary.  I don't think he has ever been smart enough to even understand the leftist nonsense that comes out of his mouth; it sounds cool and a lot of cool people like him for saying it.  It helped him climb the ladder in Chicago where everyone is an aging 60s radical.  And it helped him get elected President when the country was exhausted and Democrats were sick of the Clintons.

A real revolutionary would not have sat back and contracted out the two most important issues of his presidency to the likes of Nancy Pelosi.  He would have had his own bills and rammed them through, and he would have made sure the benefits started right away so people could see them before the costs kicked in.  But Obama did not know how to do that.

Ace actually ran a comment of mine on Obama during the 2008 primaries, in response to his question about why the Hillaryites, especially the middle-aged women, hated Obama and became the "PUMAs".  I said Obama reminds all of us of the guy at our office who was nothing but a bullshit artist and talked his way into the promotion ahead of the hard working woman who thought she could get ahead by actually being effective at her job.  And then he fucked up, but kept getting promoted even more.  He's the guy who always fails upward.  He's the guy who always whines that he can't succeed because he doesn't have enough support around him, or the company just doesn't want change, or he wasn't given enough resources to do the job.  He's the guy who neds to be stroked, adored, given the big corner office and the parking space, but still whines that nobody appreciates him enough.

Companies all over America are full of people like this.  Their bullshit usually works for a long time, until they get promoted into a job where they really do fuck up catastrophically, and they can't bullshit their way out of it anymore, and then they get fired.  And let me tell you, women HATE guys like this.

I think Obama has hit this point.  It's obvious to all but the most crazy fanboys that he is in over his head, doesn't really care, and isn't capable of doing any better than he is right now. 

 

Posted by: rockmom at July 29, 2011 03:36 PM (lSyyU)

134

Right there with you, CarolT. If she had the decency to apologize and examine why she was wrong, okay. But no more of this condensing talk from Granny, for all of us Red Staters who "Don't get it."

Posted by: William at July 29, 2011 03:49 PM (77TeU)

135 143 Kimberly Guilfoyle could stand to dial back the eyeliner by about 94%.
If that makes you call me gay, so be it.

Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at July 29, 2011 07:09 PM (a5ljo)

That's ex-Mrs. Mayor Gavin Newsome to you!

Posted by: SFGoth at July 29, 2011 04:09 PM (dZ756)

136

 

 

Look up Paul Bethel, The Losers.

It's about Barry, a third auto-biography, in a sense, written prior to when the Douche-Hawaiian was born...

"

...the coterie of Castro and Soviet apologists in the U.S. whose efforts have so greatly aided the Communist advances into a free Latin America. In a manner of speaking they could be called the "winners" (so far) in the conflict. But I refer to personal qualities common to their breed--they are the misfits, malcontents and "losers" of a free society, who, unable to achieve the status or power their "intellectual" gifts entitle them to, and frustrated in their efforts to "reform" their fellow men, retreat to safe havens such as the universities and the bureaucracy to air their sour resentment of democracy. It is worth noting that, lacking manliness, the "losers" are attracted to those, like Castro or "Che" Guevara, of virile image. I trust the reader knows the breed."

 

 

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Miller at July 29, 2011 04:45 PM (s5aNX)

137 Excellent blog, thanks for the share. I'll be a regular viewer.

Posted by: Just Kids Audiobook at July 29, 2011 06:10 PM (qKLlr)

138 Obama's adoring fans thought Obama was aloof because he was cool, and that they were cooler than you because they knew he was cool. Now they're beginning to realize that his coolness was just because he was an asshole, and an incompetent asshole, at that.

Posted by: Grand Dragon Papa Smurf at July 29, 2011 09:33 PM (+/VZz)

139

I seem to recall Noonan adoring the Indonesian Muslims shadow and sacrificing to his image.

 

What a brainless fool.  She probably voted for the Big Zero and is afraid that it'll come out.

 

 

Posted by: Molon Labe at July 29, 2011 10:58 PM (g5MrG)

140 Onama's leadership skills=delegate leadership

Posted by: oic at July 29, 2011 11:14 PM (djYCO)

141 Obama is the ultimate result of political correctness and white guilt.(and the republican party's stupid nomination of McCain) The good news is, if Peggy no longer thinks he is pizza in a cup, maybe other sheeple could be lead in another direction We were told we loved Odrama, and many actually believed it. After the 2004 Democrat convention, it was announced he was gonna be the next president. So the dumbasses just said "derrr, o.k." and pulled the lever. Remember, by definition, half the people are below average!!!! So he only had to fool 3%, which was easy because we have some jerk whispering in our ear " what if someone finds out you voted against the black man?" this jerk is known as political correctness, the same jerk who says " what if people find out that you searched that 20 year old middle eastern male, you better search that 6 year old girl and the 90 year old granny instead!"

Posted by: Sumdumguy at July 30, 2011 08:49 AM (fuzot)

142 146

Obama is not a revolutionary.  He is even worse, a faux revolutionary.  I don't think he has ever been smart enough to even understand the leftist nonsense that comes out of his mouth; it sounds cool and a lot of cool people like him for saying it.  It helped him climb the ladder in Chicago where everyone is an aging 60s radical.  And it helped him get elected President when the country was exhausted and Democrats were sick of the Clintons.

A real revolutionary would not have sat back and contracted out the two most important issues of his presidency to the likes of Nancy Pelosi.  He would have had his own bills and rammed them through, and he would have made sure the benefits started right away so people could see them before the costs kicked in.  But Obama did not know how to do that.

Posted by: rockmom at July 29, 2011 07:36 PM (lSyyU)

 

Rock on, Rockmom. He's an actor. He's not a president, he just plays one on TV.

Posted by: Average Jen at July 30, 2011 10:03 AM (GVKgJ)

143

Peggy Noonan has never gotten beyond the superficial. She's one of those writers who thinks breathless substitutes for profound.

And even now, two and a half years into this nightmare of an administration that she helped bring about by getting everything wrong, she's still getting it wrong.

She thinks nobody loves Obama? The KoolAid drinkers are more entrenched than ever. She thinks "conservatives are scratching their heads?" No, unlike her, we had him figured out two and a half years ago. She thinks Obama is sly and shrewd? He's an empty suit who can't even deliver lines to sixth graders without a Teleprompter. But she saw Ivy League on his diploma--never mind that no actual grades were provided--and never looked further.

Posted by: Average Jen at July 30, 2011 10:24 AM (GVKgJ)

144 GHDS UK DingYaoKang sent to attracted by granted them amnesty, false xuyu woe to eastern. And all the cable, the amount of the difficult to lament. The water of the east China sea, difficult to poor real LouZhi!!!!! In the DingYaoKang think of care, ancient art project have leave, MBT Sale then, he JiaChen march in one night escape. GHD Dark The DingYaoKang fled to ZhiXian weeks, in a strange feeling of anger, they can for a lamb, then will case directly to the qing imperial Beijing tong go up. However, for some reason, ZhiXian weeks in a this recruit also did not work, because court has not made sent to bite of criticism only a cover, wait for Beijing to sin by. MBT

Posted by: GHD Straighteners at July 30, 2011 11:06 PM (aLmvz)

145 Obama is definitely not a loser.  Peggy got it all wrong.  Obama is more of an asshole than he is a loser.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at July 31, 2011 04:15 PM (3ESDJ)

146 Peggy Noonan has been anti Bush since Bush the elder stopped using her as a speech writer. The whole thing was spite on her part. And since Peggy always goes with feelings first, I think her Palin hatred was due to plain old jealousy. I haven't read anything of hers since the election.

Posted by: daisy at August 01, 2011 10:53 AM (Ry4R2)

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