August 11, 2011
— Ace Interesting interview.
There's not really what you'd call a campaign theme here, but you can see bits and pieces that will shape that. It's not very specific, but it does show his emphasis, which will be economic.
He drops bits of his biography into his answers, about Texas and his wife. Part of his burden, of course, is convincing the country that it's okay to vote for a Texas governor again.
Halperin: Tell me what being a Texan means to you.Perry: (Laughs.) Man, the history of the state is a very compelling story—a place that was carved out of rather hard, harsh geography and climate. I think it was General Sheridan who said, “If I owned Hell and Texas, I would rent out Texas and live in Hell.” This is a harsh place originally, and still can be. [It was] 107 degrees yesterday. I talked to my folks and [there’s a] very dry, very brutal drought going on—but we always have a rather cheery optimism about ourselves as my father is prone to say. It’ll rain, it always does. That’s the classic faith of a dry-land cotton farmer..... So, for me, the essence of being a Texan is, these are people who can sustain through hard times, but they’re people who always think that better days are ahead.
On his agenda, his first 100 days:
That is obviously an issue that is always in conversation or in your mind. At lunch today, [South Carolina Rep.] Tim Scott and I were talking about, “What do you do in the first 100 days?” So, yes, it’s not a, as we go through the appropriate thought process of making a decision about whether or not we’re going to run for the presidency—there’s certainly a parallel track that is ongoing about what do you do when you get there. What [are] America’s needs? And I’ve boiled it down pretty quickly to the four principles that we put in place in Texas that have worked rather well while the rest of the country has been going through some—most certainly the big states—pretty rough times. Texas has—I won’t say we’ve somehow totally missed this recession—but we’ve weathered it better than any other state from the standpoint of job creation. I think that is inarguable. But, don’t spend all the money. I mean, in Washington D.C. if you want to just get down to the pure epicenter, the nucleus of the problem in Washington D.C., is they’re spending too much money. Have a tax structure that’s fair, and as low as you can have it, and still deliver the services that the people require. Have a regulatory climate that is fair, predictable. Predictability is so important. Today in Washington D.C. the idea of predictability in the regulatory climate—it’s not there. That’s the reason there are so many people sitting on their money rather than investing it and taking the entrepreneurial risk. Then obviously, the fourth is to have a legal system that doesn’t allow for over-suing. And then government needs to step back and get out of the way. Stepping back and getting out of the way at the federal level is about allowing the states to compete against each other, the idea that Washington knows best how to educate our children, or knows best how to deliver health care our citizens, or for that matter knows best how to clean up the air. There are examples of each of those that I could go into, but I don’t want to filibuster here.
Here he manages to discuss his decision to run, his wife's support and counsel, and repealing ObamaCare:
Did you [and your wife] say, let’s sit down and figure this out today?That is a good description. We sat down. My wife, who is a nurse, whose father practiced medicine in that little hometown [that] she grew [in] 52 years is greatly concerned about what’s going to happen to the ability to access health care, the innovation that goes with. I mean we’ve got one of the finest, if not the best, health care systems in the world. She sees Obamacare as destroying that. Obviously as a CEO of a state, the cost associated with this is going to just going to be monstrous—$2.7 billion dollars a year for taxes. And then the secondary, and just as important reason, but I’ll just say the second reason we had this conversation is a 27-year-old and a 24-year-old who are our children. And this monstrous debt that’s been created that’s going to be on their back. They’re going to have to be the generation that doesn’t have the same opportunities that we had because of this out-of-control spending in Washington D.C. Basically, this experiment that this President has sent this country through has been an absolute disaster. So her concerns about the profession that she has spent her lifetime in and loves, being destroyed, and the impact on her children, and the conversation, if I can paraphrase was, “I know you love what you do. I know you think it’s the greatest job in the country. But our country is in trouble, and you need to do your duty.” And at that particular point in time, a person that I greatly love who I’ve been either dating or married to for I think 45 years now, made me realize that I couldn’t sit on the sidelines if my country’s future truly is at stake. And I believe our country truly is at stake, and the future of what we’re going to look like is a problem.
Don't shoot the messenger on this, but I think maybe he makes a big error in his foreign policy question:
I know if you run, you would have foreign policy positions—you give speeches on that. But what are sort of the basic tenets of Rick Perry’s view of America in the world?Our friends need to know that we’re their friends. The Latvian Prime Minister was in my office three weeks ago and we were having this conversation about the current administration and the almost aimless or wavering position that he takes from a foreign policy standpoint relative to eastern Europe and those counties who are abutted by folks who might not be their friends. Might have thoughts of impacting their country. The idea that the President would make this statement about going back to the ’67 borders sent a chill down all of my friends’ back and certainly mine. Israel is our friend. Israel is a democracy in the middle of a part of the world where having a democracy is really important. Our friends, if I am blessed to become the President of the United States, will know that we will be there day in and day out. I think the most important thing that we can do from a foreign policy standpoint is to be strong economically. Because if we’re not strong economically, we cannot have the resources to be strong militarily. And if we’re not strong militarily than our foreign policy becomes haphazard at best, because countries look at the United States and go, “Well we’ll do what we please because you don’t have the for with all to sent a message that we’re going to be strong militarily. It’s funny how all these things point back to one thing. And that one thing is putting policies in place in the United States to create an environment where job creators have the confidence and can risk their capital and have a good return on the investment.
Unless the Latvian PM gave him permission to float that, that's a diplomatic error. The claim will be made (and it's a fair point) that in an effort to name-drop some foreign policy credentials, he outed a confidential discussion with the Prime Minister of a foreign country.
It is possible, though, that Obama has so alienated Latvia that the PM didn't even say it in confidence. But I doubt that. Few heads of state outside Venezuela or Iran or North Korea are comfortable publicly running down the flaws of whatever President sits in the Oval Office.
Over at Hot Air, Perry is in a virtual tie with Romney as he gears up to officially enter the race. 17/15, with Bachmann at 12.
Ben and Caleb Howe have been kind enough to invite me down to Charleston, SC, for RedState's gathering, where Perry will give a speech making his intentions known, he says.
So I'll be heading down there tomorrow and staying through Sunday for that. (Perry's speech is on Saturday.) I've never actually seen Perry speak before, and I'm curious to see if he's actually good (as people say).
I might be able to get a short interview.
They've asked me to do a live podcast on Saturday, after Perry's announcement (and the other speakers at the event). That's at 9 PM Eastern. So I'll be doing that, too.
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If Sarah throws her support towards Perry it is over for the rest. That is what I am hopin' for. Heaven knows what will happen.
Something needs to shake up the inertia of the GOP. I don't even listen to any of them on the news it is so bland and been there/ done that yada yada. I hope Perry shows up with coyotes he shot tied to the bus, with an enlarged photo of the dead Mexican rapist he executed on a target board.
Shake, rattle and roll 'em Rick.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 11, 2011 08:07 AM (FnRYN)
Posted by: ...---... at August 11, 2011 08:21 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 11, 2011 08:22 AM (eOXTH)
In the debate tonight. How often do you think Romney and Bachmann are going to take shots at Perry?
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 08:23 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 11, 2011 08:24 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 11, 2011 08:25 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: F--- Nevada! (I'm AoSHQ's DarkLord©, and I approve this message) at August 11, 2011 08:26 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Lord God Zero at August 11, 2011 08:26 AM (YmPwQ)
This could be a great weekend for the GOP.
The people are desperate for leadership. Failure is enveloping Obama at a time when he is giving speeches about jobs and going on vacation.
Now is the time to attack, GOP candidates, and make your mark.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 11, 2011 08:26 AM (G/zuv)
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 08:26 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: B to the O, campaigning in Berlin at August 11, 2011 08:27 AM (4Kl5M)
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 08:27 AM (5H6zj)
Yeah, he's that good. Better, actually. The cool thing is he can fire up a crowd by stating specifics, not just platitudes that are forgotten as soon as they're spoken.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 11, 2011 08:27 AM (h1p5V)
I'd have loved to met up with you and bought you dinner.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 08:27 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 11, 2011 08:27 AM (VZ10+)
Posted by: soothsayer at August 11, 2011 12:24 PM (G/zuv)
Perry is a ruthless political animal, which is why he gets bonus points over Pawlenty who might actually be better, policy for policy.
As to the Latvian Prime Minister, it's not the Latvian Ambassador, so statements made that break diplomatic protocol are not necessarily impossible. Frankly, I think the Latvian PM is happy to stir up a little controversy so that people remember that Latvia isn't a made-up country from the Fantastic Four comics.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 11, 2011 08:28 AM (73tyQ)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 11, 2011 08:29 AM (pLTLS)
I think they won't. Bachmann seems to be running a positive campaign (except for the occasional counter-jab to Pawlenty) and Romney issued a respectful statement about Perry. I think they'll point out what they think are their selling points, but not go hard-negative against Rick.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 08:29 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 11, 2011 08:30 AM (jx2j9)
And completely innappropriate to have a State Governor speak with a foriegn Head of State, in a conversation that maligns US foriegn policy. Perhaps Perry needs to review Art 1 Sect 10 again.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 11, 2011 08:30 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at August 11, 2011 08:31 AM (epBek)
Posted by: Bob Saget, half hobbit, half honey badger, half teabag at August 11, 2011 08:31 AM (F/4zf)
I've never actually seen Perry speak before, and I'm curious to see if he's actually good (as people say
This is my main concern. I've been reading over his record, and with a few exceptions, he seems like a great candidate.
Obviously we all can't find someone we agree with 100%, and I'm not big into the evangelical politicians(but at the same time it doesn't bother me a whole ton either).
My only concern, or unanswered question, is how good of a speaker is he? In terms of speeches, on the campaign trail and in debates.
I'm extremely hopeful he's good because I don't particularly care for any of the other candidates, and let's face it, if we move forward with the current crop, we're going to end up with Romney.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 08:31 AM (wuv1c)
We know that the classless liberals did this kind of thing any chance they got to Bush. As far as I'm concerned, they changed the old rules, so they have to live under the new ones. Good on Perry.
Posted by: Rod Rescueman at August 11, 2011 08:31 AM (HwE/1)
Posted by: H. Spirit, esq. at August 11, 2011 08:31 AM (xSAyA)
I was beginning to worry that Perry was '12's Fred Thompson.
The reason it has taken so long for Rick Perry to decide whether or not to get into the race is because Rick Perry needed to formulate a plan. Rick Perry doesn't take a dump without a plan.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 08:32 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 08:32 AM (yKLpM)
Posted by: izoneguy at August 11, 2011 08:32 AM (i6Neb)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 11, 2011 08:33 AM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Fritz at August 11, 2011 08:33 AM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: Bomber at August 11, 2011 08:33 AM (qzoN5)
I'll write you one now...
Return to Solvency. Return to Principles.
Perry/Bachmann 2012 - Return to Sanity
Posted by: F--- Nevada! (I'm AoSHQ's DarkLord©, and I approve this message) at August 11, 2011 08:33 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 08:34 AM (yKLpM)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Formerly YRM) at August 11, 2011 08:34 AM (3XDPM)
Posted by: Jeff at August 11, 2011 08:34 AM (nhpQX)
You say that now. When the DOW is pushing 8000 and we have wasted 4 years of our lives, the US might surprise you.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 11, 2011 08:34 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Mandy P., Southern Tea Party Terrorist bitterly clinging to her gun and her Bible at August 11, 2011 08:35 AM (qFpRI)
Van Hollen is a professional bullshit-artist posing as an economics guru.
Becerra is just another Dem hack.
And Clyburn is a racist hack.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 11, 2011 08:35 AM (G/zuv)
I'm thinking Dombrovskis is cool with the name-dropping. Dude seems to be a Tea Partier, though they don't call them that in Latvia.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 11, 2011 08:35 AM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 11, 2011 08:35 AM (lbo6/)
Posted by: Jeff at August 11, 2011 12:34 PM (nhpQX)
Is it a rehash of what Gabe talked about in the thread below?
Posted by: AmishDude at August 11, 2011 08:35 AM (73tyQ)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 11, 2011 08:35 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 11, 2011 08:36 AM (FnRYN)
Posted by: Jeff at August 11, 2011 12:34 PM (nhpQX)
it looks like the narrative on Perry will be southern, white, racists who LOVES himself some confederate tendencies and hates minorities and wants homos killed.
btw for a guy who hasn't announced, isn't known nationwide, he's polling pretty damn well against Obama
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Formerly YRM) at August 11, 2011 08:36 AM (3XDPM)
I think they won't. Bachmann seems to be running a positive campaign (except for the occasional counter-jab to Pawlenty) and Romney issued a respectful statement about Perry. I think they'll point out what they think are their selling points, but not go hard-negative against Rick.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 12:29 PM (5H6zj)
I guess I'm more cynical than you. Though I do expect the moderator(s) to ask a question concerning "possible candidates not here" or something along those lines.
All I'm really looking for tonight is for Ron Paul to be an idiot and to hear John Hunstman so I can laugh as all the liberals orgasm over him.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 08:37 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 12:27 PM (5H6zj)
+100000000
+200000000
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 08:37 AM (UOM48)
That's fine. Tancredo is. But after waiting for Tancredo to shit or get off the pot in terms of running, I'll take Perry. At least Perry's doing something.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 11, 2011 08:37 AM (h1p5V)
Romney/West 2012.
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 11, 2011 08:38 AM (wc/Br)
Posted by: Conspicuously male tour guide at August 11, 2011 08:38 AM (GBXon)
A current post over Andrew Sullivan's blog accuses the Texas Governor of close ties to neo-Confederate organizations that should disqualify him from the Presidency, or even running for office.
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No, there are no ties that can now disqualify someone from running for President. We elected a guy who was best pals with a terrorist. End of story.
Posted by: Rich at August 11, 2011 08:38 AM (wnGI4)
Let me be the 1st to welcome you to Charleston, SC ace.
Glad you are coming down.
I will be at the Perry speech and some of the other events, and would love to meet ya. If you have time, I'll buy you a drink.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 11, 2011 08:38 AM (dWPyO)
"This guy ace is the head Ewok of a bunch of morons and he would like to interview you."
Perry -- "I never read him. But he has some great commenters."
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 11, 2011 08:38 AM (ENKCw)
60 A current post over Andrew Sullivan's blog accuses the Texas Governor of close ties to neo-Confederate organizations that should disqualify him from the Presidency, or even running for office.
Posted by: Jeff at August 11, 2011 12:34 PM (nhpQX)
PowerGlutes probably thinks that the fact Perry's had his dick inside a vagina disqualifies him from being a candidate.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 08:39 AM (GULKT)
I honestly don't give a shit. Ted Kennedy went over to the Soviet Union and stabbed Reagan in the back. Dick Durbin criticized the war in Iraq while standing on Iraqi soil.
Fuck the left. Fuck this illegitimate, America-hating president. Perry owes him no loyalty or allegiance because Obama is an enemy of the state.
Posted by: Warden at August 11, 2011 08:39 AM (KulgD)
Tancredo took a shot a Perry earlier this week. Said he's not a true conservative.
yeah Tancredo choose our noms, the guy who cost us the Gov race in CO
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Formerly YRM) at August 11, 2011 08:39 AM (3XDPM)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 08:39 AM (yKLpM)
I guess I'm more cynical than you. Though I do expect the moderator(s) to ask a question concerning "possible candidates not here" or something along those lines.
Who is moderating tonight's debate?
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 08:39 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Jeff at August 11, 2011 12:34 PM (nhpQX)
PowerGlutes probably thinks that the fact Perry's had his dick inside a vagina disqualifies him from being a candidate.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 12:39 PM (GULKT)
*iced tea spew*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 08:40 AM (UOM48)
Perry will be a month-long flash, and then recede in the polls. Perry = an Obama win.
Romney/West 2012.
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Really? REALLY?
It's fine if you think Perry is a flash in the pan and then opine for someone more conservative. But..Romney? You go the other way? You might as well make Huntsman your candidate then.
Posted by: Rich at August 11, 2011 08:40 AM (wnGI4)
Posted by: Y-not
I certainly hope so!
Posted by: Retread at August 11, 2011 08:40 AM (BO5ap)
Posted by: cherry π at August 11, 2011 08:40 AM (OhYCU)
Fuck the left. Fuck this illegitimate, America-hating president. Perry owes him no loyalty or allegiance because Obama is an enemy of the state.
Indeed.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 08:40 AM (wuv1c)
He's a quite excellent speaker- and very, very good at judging his audience- on the fly (which is very, very hard to do). What I mean is this: if you know you're talking to a bunch of West Texas Ranchers, you're going to have certain topics and certain things you want to say. If you go in and those are falling flat, you have to adjust- and he's very, very good at making those adjustments.
More, he's very good at "candid" interviews. Listening to his radio interviews should be required for every candidate we have- he's a master at them. If he wants to avoid an issue, he'll usually just say "I'm not going to address that" instead of giving some non-answer. If you push him on the issue, he'll usually respond (with poise, from the interviews I've heard)
straight on- even though he didn't want to address it. He's never been afraid to defend his positions- at least, not in any interview I've heard.
Also- Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure. Rick Perry would not be.
And, Ace, can we please have a thread about the family of the murdered Border Patrol Agent being denied crime victim status by the US Attorney? Please? This needs daylight.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 08:41 AM (8y9MW)
Yea, I second the concern about doing interviews with Time. It shows a lack of judgment. It's too early, though.
Well let's face it, he's running for the presidency. He's going to have to give interviews with left wing media(read all media, including some fox personalities).
He can't avoid media and win the presidency.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 08:41 AM (wuv1c)
Because that's EXACTLY what I'm looking for--someone who'll kick Obama in the nuts until he vomits.
Posted by: Warden at August 11, 2011 08:41 AM (KulgD)
Posted by: Rich at August 11, 2011 08:43 AM (wnGI4)
Posted by: helen thomas at August 11, 2011 08:43 AM (oUG6f)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 08:43 AM (UOM48)
Well let's face it, he's running for the presidency. He's going to have to give interviews with left wing media(read all media, including some fox personalities).
He can't avoid media and win the presidency.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 12:41 PM (wuv1c)
Yeah, but he can be wary of print media. Live interviews are fine.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 11, 2011 08:43 AM (73tyQ)
Romney/West 2012.
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 11, 2011 12:38 PM (wc/Br)
You forgot to throw you average joe sock on.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 08:44 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 11, 2011 08:44 AM (73tyQ)
This makes no sense. Did FDR speak to Tojo?
Posted by: cherry π at August 11, 2011 08:44 AM (OhYCU)
how good of a speaker is he? In terms of speeches, on the campaign trail and in debates.
He is very, very good.
Posted by: Lauren at August 11, 2011 08:44 AM (cVIY5)
Really? You may not love Romney for healthcare or something else, but it's absurd to compare him to an also ran's also ran. I question your judgment even more than I question anyone who thinks a Texas Governor is going to defeat Obamao.
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 11, 2011 08:44 AM (wc/Br)
Posted by: cherry ð at August 11, 2011 12:44 PM (OhYCU)
Probably...
Posted by: Havedash at August 11, 2011 08:44 AM (sFD5n)
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 12:41 PM (wuv1c)
oh noes! according to some Palin folks i've talked to, you can win the presidency w/o talking to the MSM
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Full Discretion: I'm A Perry Guy) at August 11, 2011 08:44 AM (3XDPM)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 11, 2011 08:45 AM (dWPyO)
Yeah, but he can be wary of print media. Live interviews are fine.
I guess. But we all know the print media is going to write whatever they want and take things out of context.
Obviously interviews are a better idea, but he willl have to engage all media.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 08:45 AM (wuv1c)
If Sarah throws her support towards Perry it is over for the rest. That is what I am hopin' for. Heaven knows what will happen.
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Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 11, 2011 12:07 PM (FnRYN)
There was at least one, maybe a couple, of meetings within the last year between Palin and Perry in Tyler, TX (not generally thought of as a place to me, at least to me). I don't think they were that well publicized but that was when I decided a) they were running together or b) one was going to support the other.
Posted by: dogfish at August 11, 2011 08:45 AM (NuPNl)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 08:45 AM (AZGON)
You hear a lot of things about Grafenberg from it's one hell of a party spot, better than Disney Land, Hooters, and the Super Bowl all rolled into one, to it doesn't even exist at all. It's hard to get a good idea unless you go there. If you can find it; It's location on maps is very ambiguous and there certainly aren't any landmarks to help you find it.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 11, 2011 08:45 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 11, 2011 08:45 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 11, 2011 12:44 PM (wc/Br)
Perry gets 45-46% of the vote in polls and the guy hasn't even run yet
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Full Discretion: I'm A Perry Guy) at August 11, 2011 08:45 AM (3XDPM)
Hmmm [taps chin]... Perry vs GOP retreads... a guy who shoots and kills a coyote while running vs the corn sombrero dude and/or other background fillers... running on the economic success of Texas vs Prez. Downgrade's stuttering clusterfuck of miserable failures.
Me likey.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 11, 2011 08:46 AM (4q5tP)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 11, 2011 08:46 AM (73tyQ)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 08:46 AM (yKLpM)
Just the visual of a tall, skinny, effete douche with his nose in the air, vs. a manly Texan who shoots coyotes while on a run is tingle-inducing.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 08:46 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 08:46 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 08:46 AM (M9Ie6)
Tancredo is striving for relevancy.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 08:46 AM (5H6zj)
I guess I'm more cynical than you. Though I do expect the moderator(s) to ask a question concerning "possible candidates not here" or something along those lines.
Who is moderating tonight's debate?
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 12:39 PM (wuv1c)
Brett Baier maybe? I don't know. Fox has had the worst promotion of this I've ever seen. I heard and saw several commercials for it and they never once said or showed the date and time it begins.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 08:46 AM (GULKT)
This makes no sense. Did FDR speak to Tojo?
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FIrst of all, most likely.
Second of all, nice straw man
Posted by: Rich at August 11, 2011 08:47 AM (wnGI4)
I got the impression that he thinks Tancredo is the best true conservative. But I didn't read the whole thing.
Posted by: Bomber at August 11, 2011 08:47 AM (qzoN5)
Posted by: Mallamutt
You are correct. I would have liked him to run this time, but he never made any overtures that he was considering it. I stand corrected.
Posted by: Hobbitopoly at August 11, 2011 08:47 AM (h1p5V)
And then try to convince you to post a 10,000 word love letter to the virtue and electability of Buddy Roemer.
I've got it in the hopper my man. I just need to convince ace to let me post it. Maybe a podcast on his virtues as well.
I'm just glad Perry might offer Roemer a bit of competition. It will help him in the General.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 11, 2011 08:47 AM (dWPyO)
Posted by: Bomber at August 11, 2011 12:47 PM (qzoN5)
Yeah, I assumed that. Well, America just isn't good enough for President Tancredo yet.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 11, 2011 08:48 AM (73tyQ)
Posted by: Jean at August 11, 2011 08:48 AM (JjNG+)
Damn I wish I could make it down there to Charleston this weekend.
Cmon Vic. Get down here. I'll buy you a drink.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 11, 2011 08:48 AM (dWPyO)
Example from 2010 race:
After Bill White won the Democrat nomination for governor, they started talks about debates. Rick Perry (knowing that, when you're the front-runner, a debate doesn't help you, but that the incumbent is expected to engage in a debate) said, something along the lines of, "Fine, Mr. Friends with Bill Clinton. As soon as you release your Tax information from the Bill Clinton years." Now, I don't know what was in there that Bill White didn't want people to know, but he refused. Rick Perry said, "No Tax information. No debate. The People of Texas already know what I stand for. How about you?" And stuck by that for the entire campaign. I don't think they ever debated. Rick Perry won by double digits.
Rick Perry is bare knuckles when he needs to be, but he'd rather draw your attention elsewhere and then stab you while you're not paying attention.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 08:48 AM (8y9MW)
If Nikki Haley endorses him he will have SC sewed up. And I say that about her "endorsing him" because they have been palling around writing editorials together.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 08:49 AM (M9Ie6)
There was at least one, maybe a couple, of meetings within the last year between Palin and Perry in Tyler, TX (not generally thought of as a place to me, at least to me). I don't think they were that well publicized but that was when I decided a) they were running together or b) one was going to support the other.
Posted by: dogfish at August 11, 2011 12:45 PM (NuPNl)
Earl Campbell's hometown?? Blasphemer!
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 11, 2011 08:49 AM (4q5tP)
Really? You may not love Romney for healthcare or something else, but it's absurd to compare him to an also ran's also ran. I question your judgment even more than I question anyone who thinks a Texas Governor is going to defeat Obamao.
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That's ok, because I pretty much discount anyone's opinion who thinks highly of Romney.
Posted by: Rich at August 11, 2011 08:49 AM (wnGI4)
Posted by: TendStl at August 11, 2011 08:49 AM (0gKao)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 08:49 AM (AZGON)
Cmon Vic. Get down here. I'll buy you a drink.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 11, 2011 12:48 PM (dWPyO)
Gonna be doing some Dr stuff this weekend and at the end of next week.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 08:49 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 11, 2011 08:49 AM (dWPyO)
Now , who's Perry gonna' pick for a running mate ?
Posted by: awkward davies at August 11, 2011 08:50 AM (YCW1b)
Uhhh.... no...?
Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at August 11, 2011 08:50 AM (Jbj03)
Rick Perry is bare knuckles when he needs to be, but he'd rather draw your attention elsewhere and then stab you while you're not paying attention.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 12:48 PM (8y9MW)
Excellent.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 08:50 AM (UOM48)
Perry gets 45-46% of the vote in polls and the guy hasn't even run yet
So does Generic Republican. Why do you assume his numbers will go up once he's in? Right now, he's the unRomney. In a month, he will be seen as a so-so debater, a so-so speaker with a Texas twang, and not that conservative.
I'm obviously a Romney guy, but the Texas/Bush angle is one, and maybe two strikes for him. I'm sorry, but that's simply true.
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 11, 2011 08:50 AM (wc/Br)
We support Al Gore for Democratic nominee!
"It is understandable that those who worked the hardest for the great dream of 2008 are depressed. It is time for us to regroup, reassemble and renew the battle for what Ted Kennedy brilliantly called the causes that endure and the dreams that never die."
The dream of free stuff stolen from others will never die!
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 11, 2011 08:50 AM (jUZRg)
Posted by: Neal Marks - Washington Correspondent at August 11, 2011 08:50 AM (ZgvjV)
Latvia is sending a signal that they want Obama out. Obama has completely screwed over Eastern Europe, so a president from Texas with a military background is great with them. The pm is just getting to know the next president. It happens all the time.
BTW, I want Obama out too.
Posted by: Harry at August 11, 2011 08:50 AM (Jchcf)
Posted by: t-bird at August 11, 2011 08:50 AM (FcR7P)
Something tells me that Obama will try something similar.
And Perry will have a counter-move.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 11, 2011 08:50 AM (73tyQ)
Brett Baier maybe? I don't know. Fox has had the worst promotion of this I've ever seen. I heard and saw several commercials for it and they never once said or showed the date and time it begins.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 12:46 PM (GULKT)
Its going to be the same group of slugs they had last time.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 08:50 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: cherry π at August 11, 2011 08:51 AM (OhYCU)
Which is why Romney immediately fell to third place behind Pawlenty Bachmann once these true conservatives got into the race.
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 11, 2011 08:52 AM (wc/Br)
Perry gets 45-46% of the vote in polls and the guy hasn't even run yet
So does Generic Republican. Why do you assume his numbers will go up once he's in? Right now, he's the unRomney. In a month, he will be seen as a so-so debater, a so-so speaker with a Texas twang, and not that conservative.
I'm obviously a Romney guy, but the Texas/Bush angle is one, and maybe two strikes for him. I'm sorry, but that's simply true.
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Yes, and the guy who implimented Romneycare is the bastion of conservatism. That one act should be worth 8 strikes.
Posted by: Rich at August 11, 2011 08:52 AM (wnGI4)
Can someone explain to me how giving an interview with Chrissy on MSNBC would ever gain you votes.
It's unlikely, but certanly interviews with CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, and other networks will in fact get you votes, despite their heavily left wing audience.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 08:52 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 08:52 AM (yKLpM)
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 12:49 PM (M9Ie6)
Isn't the SC primary proportional delegates? "Sewn up" doesn't really mean much, it's more about media and beating expectations.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 11, 2011 08:53 AM (73tyQ)
Posted by: Concern Troll at August 11, 2011 08:53 AM (YmPwQ)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 12:34 PM (yKLpM)
As I expected, 5 hard left commies and 1 social justice commie. The paper here has been hinting around that Clyburn would be on there.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 08:53 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2011 08:53 AM (l5dj7)
It is a class act the whole way. There is a bar on the roof where you cab enjoy a smoke too.
Posted by: sTevo at August 11, 2011 08:53 AM (dMZwu)
Posted by: Mr Pink at August 11, 2011 08:53 AM (/RReS)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 11, 2011 12:49 PM (dWPyO)
I'd give anything to be up there this weekend. We've postponed our trip till next weekend because of obligations here.
See if you can take Ace to dinner, and get him to get a pic with Rick Perry holding a pudding cup.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 08:53 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Havedash at August 11, 2011 08:53 AM (sFD5n)
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 11, 2011 12:50 PM (wc/Br)
so you're going by southern guy from most succesful big state right now can't beat Obama because he's a southerner. the same argument my bro uses as to why to back Romney. okay, i'm not a bot you can go and back Romney and it's cool with me because in the end I'm voting against Obama. But Perry is my nom all the way from now on and my plan B might be decided tonight after the debate
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Full Discretion: I'm A Perry Guy) at August 11, 2011 08:53 AM (3XDPM)
1 What he thinks about the role of govt.
or
2 How much balls he has.
He is either a spineless twerp who would let the state he governed be financially ruined by one of the most destructive and expensive concepts man has come up with, rather than take a principled conservative stand against it
OR
He thought it was a good idea.
To be fair I don't know which is worse. Both means he is unlike to do what is necessary to save this country.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 11, 2011 08:53 AM (0q2P7)
Yes, and the guy who implimented Romneycare is the bastion of conservatism. That one act should be worth 8 strikes.
You'll see. Perry will be below Romney in the polls by Rosh Hashanah.
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 11, 2011 08:53 AM (wc/Br)
Which is why Romney immediately fell to third place behind Pawlenty Bachmann once these true conservatives got into the race.
Well to be fair, the race right now is Romney vs. 6-7 Not Romneys.
When the number on the right decline to 1 Not Romney, we'll see how the primaries shake out.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 08:53 AM (wuv1c)
I'm about sick of cheery optimism.
Me too. This weekend better not be a jerkoff fest. I don't need to hear esoteric speeches about freedom and the founding fathers.
I want to know one thing: how you're gonna defeat Obama and the socialists.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 11, 2011 08:54 AM (G/zuv)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 11, 2011 08:55 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 11, 2011 08:55 AM (326rv)
Posted by: Concern Troll at August 11, 2011 12:53 PM (YmPwQ)
Seemed like a perfectly lucid statement to me.
Posted by: Havedash at August 11, 2011 08:55 AM (sFD5n)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 08:55 AM (yKLpM)
Yeah, well the only "chemistry" lab Barry's been near is his dealer's bathroom.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 08:55 AM (5H6zj)
As I expected, 5 hard left commies and 1 social justice commie. The paper here has been hinting around that Clyburn would be on there.
Baucus has already announced ANY deal MUST raise Taxes (Revenue).
Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2011 08:55 AM (wzNfo)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 08:56 AM (AZGON)
You'll see. Perry will be below Romney in the polls by Rosh Hashanah.
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And what exactly does a poll have to do with a candidate being good or not? If this is your argument, then start supporting Rudolph, because he's the closest out there to beating Obama.
Posted by: Rich at August 11, 2011 08:56 AM (wnGI4)
Posted by: t-bird at August 11, 2011 08:56 AM (FcR7P)
That's easy! Gut EPA regulations, OSHA regulations, etc, and revenue will go through the roof.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 11, 2011 08:57 AM (LH6ir)
I was there for that. I can't watch the video at work, so I don't know if I can be seen in the crowd or not- but that was one awesome day.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 08:57 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: cherry ð at August 11, 2011 12:51 PM (OhYCU)
yes, yes we know Palin or die and all of that. but you're comparing apples and oranges now. Saying what you read to that clown Couric and having a shouting battle with Tingles at MSNBC is a diff set of circumstances. Squishy moderates can be swung by interviews w/ the network news, dueling w/ Crissy is just red meat fun.
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Full Discretion: I'm A Perry Guy) at August 11, 2011 08:57 AM (3XDPM)
Here we are again with the "Do the grind" talk.
Grind
Grind
Grind
Year after year. Election after election.
It never occurs to you that we are genuinely out of time does it?
That 2012, may be to late, let alone midway through 2013 when a new President might get something done.
Polls, sure they are important. The reality of our economic position is more important. We either figure out a way to win with someone who *can* and has the fortitude and *will* fix this. Or we lose. Electing Romney counts as category 2.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 11, 2011 08:58 AM (0q2P7)
Oh, and that wasn't a ringing endorsement of Romney. You claim Perry is not all that conservative, and when someone brings up that Romney clearly isn't all that conservative, instead of defending your initial statement, you run to the poll numbers.
No, tell me, in what ways is Romney more conservative than Perry?
Posted by: Rich at August 11, 2011 08:58 AM (wnGI4)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 11, 2011 08:58 AM (eOXTH)
Baucus has already announced ANY deal MUST raise Taxes (Revenue).
Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2011 12:55 PM (wzNfo)
I vote for the Glenn Reynolds tax package: Hollywood, trial lawyers, etc.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 11, 2011 08:59 AM (73tyQ)
Posted by: garrett at August 11, 2011 12:55 PM (wzNfo)
Baucus is a wimp moderate fake who should be voted out
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Full Discretion: I'm A Perry Guy) at August 11, 2011 08:59 AM (3XDPM)
Maybe in his blue jean selection criteria?
Posted by: Bomber at August 11, 2011 08:59 AM (qzoN5)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 08:59 AM (AZGON)
You know at some point the poles are gonna tell our miserable clusterf*ck of a President that he's boned.....and I'm becoming more than just a little concerned on what he's gonna consider on his way "out the door". I mean if you remember what Billary did (executive pardons and taking Air Force One memorabial and White House furniture/silverware)....this man has NO conscience and NO limits. He's already lame duck but he can and will try to continue to hurt us on the way out the door.
Count on it.
Posted by: MrObvious at August 11, 2011 08:59 AM (H87Hu)
Baucus has already announced ANY deal MUST raise Taxes (Revenue).
With these picks to the SuperFriendsCommittee, there won't be any deal (in a just world). At least not until one of McConnell's fluffers caves to make a 7-5 vote.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 11, 2011 09:00 AM (4q5tP)
Baucus has already announced ANY deal MUST raise Taxes (Revenue).
I know 48% who could have their taxes raised.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 11, 2011 09:00 AM (jUZRg)
Yes, the GOP elite have managed to screw up the primary rules even worse than before. The first 3 States are now nothing more than "momentum". But I can guarantee you if Haley endorses him he will be up around high double digits with the rest in singles.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 09:00 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 09:01 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 09:01 AM (yKLpM)
I saw this video the other day on Corner National Review Online discussing Rick Perry. Someone described Rick as a honey badger and linked the video (*warning if you are squeamish or eating you may want to pass, otherwise it is hilarious. Also language your Mama won't like).
I do imagine Rick can be a honey badger with whining doubters, RINO's, people freaked out about Texas, the liberal media, liberal pundits, and, last, but not least, JEF. Perry does not seem to be someone who will give a hoot with whatever is throw at him.
Unfortunately I cannot seem to create a shorter tinyurl thingie to work, as YouTube is weird, but if you have time to search it is on YouTube as:
The Crazy Nastyass Honey Badger (original narration by Randall)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 11, 2011 09:01 AM (FnRYN)
I don't hate Romney, but he is really low on my list.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 09:01 AM (5H6zj)
I don't get this. People bitch that IA, NH and SC have too much influence.
So the RNC says, "Fine, the states that go first have to proportionally allocate their delegates so it isn't about delegate count, thus diluting the influence of early primary states."
And now you're bitching about that, too.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 11, 2011 09:02 AM (73tyQ)
Posted by: dananjcon at August 11, 2011 09:02 AM (8ieXv)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 12:48 PM (8y9MW)
I'd say that is apt.
Posted by: dogfish at August 11, 2011 09:02 AM (NuPNl)
It is clear that Mitt Romney is the one conservative in the raceÂ…. the one we must get behind and supportÂ…..the only one who can save us. All conservatives should rally to Mitt Romney
Well to be fair, I think given the other options, McCain and Huckabee, that wasn't an unfair statement.
But now we have real options.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 09:03 AM (wuv1c)
I will be at the Perry speech and some of the other events, and would love to meet ya. If you have time, I'll buy you a drink.
And then try to convince you to post a 10,000 word love letter to the virtue and electability of Buddy Roemer.
The only reason I don't find this funny is that I actually lived through Buddy's time as governor and saw the results.
This guy could fuck up a cup of coffee.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 11, 2011 09:03 AM (VZ10+)
Posted by: Paladin at August 11, 2011 09:03 AM (bxc5w)
Don't be a jerk. At the time of the Florida primary, Rush et al. were dealing with a McCain/Huck/Romney race. Romney was clearly the most conservative.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 11, 2011 09:04 AM (73tyQ)
Posted by: TendStl at August 11, 2011 09:05 AM (0gKao)
heh, video of the Palin presidential announcement
Palin can't announce at this point. Her biggest draw is the "will she or won't she" schtick. Once she gets in the race, the bloom is off the rose, and she's a mere mortal again.
She should keep doing what she's doing and making money.
She has too much to lose if she gets in the race. If she gets in, chances are very high she won't win(as we already have a poor man's Palin in the race with Bachmann).
So she would be just another GOP primary loser and not some sort of mysterious conservative firebrand.
She's not running.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 09:05 AM (wuv1c)
I hope not ... Perry/Bachmann 2012 works for me.
Posted by: Paladin at August 11, 2011 09:06 AM (bxc5w)
Posted by: Conservative Mitt Romney at August 11, 2011 09:06 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2011 09:06 AM (l5dj7)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 09:06 AM (AZGON)
ParisParamus has been pushing Romney on here ever since 2008. He is a hard core Romeny-bot.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 09:06 AM (M9Ie6)
Every candidate should just acknowledge that MSNBC just doesn't have the coverage. Plain and simple. Nobody watched HardBall, why go on it.
Is someone here even making a counter argument?
Find, ignore MSNBC, no biggie. But you can't ignore the rest of the MSM for the entire campaign and win.
You need to make them your bitch like Reagan did. Just ask Sam Donaldson and that creature he keeps on top of his head
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 09:07 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 11, 2011 09:07 AM (lbo6/)
Yes, as a matter of fact, I am suggesting that Tancredo's "border security" obsession isn't just about economics and homeland defense. I don't call out racists lightly, but Tancredo has a real personal problem with certain kinds of people.
Posted by: Rod Rescueman at August 11, 2011 09:07 AM (HwE/1)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 09:07 AM (yKLpM)
ParisParamus has been pushing Romney on here ever since 2008. He is a hard core Romeny-bot.
Yeah, he's been here a while and is entitled to his opinion(or choice),even if most people here disagree.
He's by no means a troll. He just happens to prefer a different candidate for different reasons.
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 09:08 AM (wuv1c)
NO WAY a Perry president does anything REMOTELY close to that.
Posted by: © Sponge at August 11, 2011 09:08 AM (UK9cE)
It'd still be an improvement over what we got now.
It was so bad that, when he came up for re-election, he missed the runoff by coming in behind a three-time governor who had been federally indicted and was one of the most hated men in the state and a guy who had once been the head of the KKK in the state.
It takes talent to fuck up that badly.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 11, 2011 09:09 AM (VZ10+)
And now you're bitching about that, too.
What "people" would that be. A few I've seen here and there, every few. Most people bitch about Blue states going first, and the next biggest load are like me and raised hell about the "winner take all" rules. Those rules that allowed a candidate who 70% of the base hated to win.
So what did they do? They made 3 proportional and left the rest the same winner take all. They should have either made them all proportional or left them the fk alone.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 09:09 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: t-bird at August 11, 2011 09:11 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 09:12 AM (AZGON)
Piss off. You know full well the only reason they were saying that was to try to keep John McCain from winning -- which, if you hadn't noticed, worked out just marvelously for us.
Posted by: blue star at August 11, 2011 09:12 AM (MLZxF)
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 09:12 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 09:13 AM (yKLpM)
Executive experience is a nice talking point for the stupid.
Posted by: cherry π at August 11, 2011 09:13 AM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 01:09 PM (M9Ie6)
Making them all proportional is stupid, the primary season would last forever. As for IA, NH, SC, it's the price of going first.
Though I would support any state that has open primaries (or same-day party registration) has to go proportional.
Posted by: AmishDude at August 11, 2011 09:13 AM (73tyQ)
The only reason I don't find this funny is that I actually lived through Buddy's time as governor and saw the results.
This guy could fuck up a cup of coffee.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 11, 2011 01:03 PM (VZ10+)
Pfft...you have no idea.
Posted by: James McGreevy at August 11, 2011 09:13 AM (8ieXv)
Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2011 09:14 AM (l5dj7)
OK, since we're bringing in hypotheticals... what about Mitt's Mormon problem? The polls I've seen show clearly that Democrats are even more bigoted against Mormons that the right is. Do you think the gay lobby is going to allow Mitt's candidacy to go anywhere?
BTW, have there been polls done on voting for another Texan? I haven't seen that data.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 09:14 AM (5H6zj)
A Texas Governor or a Chicago Community Organizer? Decisions - decisions - decisions.
Teh media is pretty funny in what they think is a hard choice. All the hard choices are Governors, Senators and Congresscritters from deep blue states. Their policy in a nutshell is to nationalize all their state, district and municipal budget problems. Pretty much the nexus of their compassion.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 11, 2011 09:15 AM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 09:15 AM (yKLpM)
2008 we had a 500B deficit, a AAA bond rating, and a reasonable chance of resolving the recession and getting the economy on track with some scaling back on regulation and taxes.
Romney when compared with McCain and Huck, wasn't too bad. As long as you didn't know much about Romney Care.
Today none of that is true. We know about Romneycare because it went national. The other stuff you know about. Romney was first stage cancer treatment, and might have been OK had he realized what a miserable mistake he made.
We need third stage treatment now, and he ain't it. He won't buck polls and move the window. He will just go along and get along. Which if he modestly attacks this problem like he modestly did anything while governor will only prolong the misery a little bit.
That and he has a penchant for government intervention in free markets and private lives. Not a selling point.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 11, 2011 09:17 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 11, 2011 09:17 AM (AZGON)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 09:18 AM (yKLpM)
Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2011 01:14 PM (l5dj7)
Yeah, he won SC with 30% of the vote.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 09:19 AM (M9Ie6)
You need to make them your bitch like Reagan did. Just ask Sam Donaldson and that creature he keeps on top of his head
Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 01:07 PM (wuv1c)
This! The ability to leave the MFM and associated leftists stammering and stuttering is high on my list. We need someone who can verbally bitch-slap and cut like a knife. No more playing damn patty-cake. No more taking a knife to a gun fight. We haven't had anyone with a steel set, character, and resolve since Mr. Reagan. I wonder how many votes he ultimately got from his "I'm paying for this microphone" smack-down in the Carter debate. Old Rawhide, we do surely miss ya!
Posted by: Havedash at August 11, 2011 09:19 AM (sFD5n)
245 Who is moderating tonight's debate?
Al Sharpton, Fox is going out of its way to be fair and balanced. They want a sharpwitted-articulate moderater who thinks quickly on his feet.
Posted by: dananjcon at August 11, 2011 09:19 AM (8ieXv)
Posted by: Conspicuously male tour guide at August 11, 2011 09:19 AM (GBXon)
She doesn't run her "relevancy" starts going into rapid decay. Pretty much ending her time in the political spotlight, and her ability to do tours and give talks. If she wants to maintain her influence she will run.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 11, 2011 09:21 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2011 09:21 AM (l5dj7)
BTW, have there been polls done on voting for another Texan? I haven't seen that data.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 01:14 PM (5H6zj)
Well you know ...---... really thinks Ron Paul should be the candidate. All her liberal friends in a certain city told her so. And there have been some silly polls of him being even with Obama. 
So you know, go Ron Paul!! But definitely not Perry, because he's from Texas and he's icky.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 09:22 AM (GULKT)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 09:23 AM (yKLpM)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 09:26 AM (yKLpM)
She doesn't run her "relevancy" starts going into rapid decay. Pretty much ending her time in the political spotlight, and her ability to do tours and give talks. If she wants to maintain her influence she will run.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose
First, I disagree. Second, she will be out campaigning, but it will be for Perry. She may wind up being his Patton, freewheeling and hitting red states and fundraising. And Obama is stupid enough to run against her. Perry meanwhile can keep pointing to that, noting that the chances this bozo is concentrating on the economy are poor, since he dosen't even know who the candidates are. Add to that Dems running away from him for their lives, a shitty economy and free parking for your volt at the theaters playing Obama's "I loved a seal once and I'm not ashamed" movie and you have a recipe for a blowout.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 11, 2011 09:26 AM (326rv)
I grew up in South Carolina. But let's not forget - South Carolina gave us John McCain in 2008. WellÂ…Â…Â…Â…in fairness to South Carolina, the real tipping point for McCain was Florida. After winning Florida, McCain was off to the races. He was able to secure enough support to win the large states in Super Tuesday (New York, Illinois, California, New Jersey) to build enough of a delegate lead (and yes, California was proportional, and Romney won 1Â…Â…Â….1 delegate) to make it inevitable. Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 11, 2011 01:17 PM (OWjjx)
Yep...at the moment Orange Gov. Crist endorsed McCain, Charlie was a dead leathery corpse walking in Florida. He ranks second in my hate rays under JEF.
Rick Perry can beat Obama. He has a strong fiscal record. He has executive experience. He saddles a horse. Barry? The only saddle he has come close to are his sissy black/white saddle shoes he golfs in.
I like Perry. He comes from humble beginnings, unlike Bush (who I love, other than the mess of his second term). May the force be with Perry.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 11, 2011 09:26 AM (FnRYN)
Posted by: mrp at August 11, 2011 09:26 AM (HjPtV)
Wish I could make the short drive up there but the kids have been out of town all week so we'll probably spend Saturday at the beach.
Nuts.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at August 11, 2011 09:27 AM (JxMoP)
LOL, imagine if BOTH Palin and Haley endorse him.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 09:27 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Bosk at August 11, 2011 09:28 AM (n2K+4)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 11, 2011 09:28 AM (0M3AQ)
One thing I don't understand about Mitt's campaign is why he doesn't talk more about the 2002 Olympics in SLC. Romney came in a saved the entire event from scandal and bankruptcy. He is well thought of in Utah, and not just because he's Mormon.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 11, 2011 09:29 AM (ignDe)
I kinda disagree. I guess I give her a little more credit for being sincerely concerned for the country's interests and for having enough gravitas to do some heavy lifting in the public arena.
If she sticks to the (paraphrasing) 'I'll run if no one conservative enough runs' plan that she expressed quite a long time ago, then I think she is off the hook in terms of needing to run... because it sure does seem like she likes Perry, both personally and policy-wise.
In terms of policy, where does Palin distinguish herself from Perry? Honestly, I'm not sure I know of a position where they are that different.
Does backing the likely future nominee and, let's face it, future POTUS make her irrelevant? Why go through the exercise of beating up on Perry in a primary only to lose to him (or, worse, Romney if Palin and Perry split the vote)?
It seems as though with the Arizona home purchase she really is positioning herself to become more versed in national issues and, I hope, run for office in the Lower 48. Alternatively, she gets a cabinet slot, although I think she'd be better served by winning another election, say for Senate.
So maybe she loses a bit of "star power" in the short term, but she has the ability to be a serious politician and leader, if she puts the time in and accomplishes some more things that the bulk of the country can appreciate.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 09:29 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: t-bird at August 11, 2011 09:30 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: mrp at August 11, 2011 09:31 AM (HjPtV)
I kinda disagree. I guess I give her a little more credit for being sincerely concerned for the country's interests and for having enough gravitas to do some heavy lifting in the public arena.
Got to remember though Y-not, a lot of the ones (on here even) have pretty much accused Palin of being little more than a media whore for money. So to them its all about the money for her and that's it.
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 09:32 AM (GULKT)
Barry is not fit to shine Perry's spurs (although he does want to know where Rick buys his chaps).
It won't hurt, either, to have the mighty Rush Limbaugh endorsing you.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 11, 2011 09:34 AM (FnRYN)
Posted by: bill at August 11, 2011 09:34 AM (91VSr)
Yeah.
I may also be wish-casting. I believe Palin cannot win the general election -- this time around. I know her supporters are enthusiastic, but I hope that she is more realistic.
I think she should work on adding to her accomplishments, continue to try to overcome the negatives she picked up from the MSM smears, and help us get rid of Obama.
I guess we'll find out soon.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 09:35 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: bill at August 11, 2011 09:36 AM (91VSr)
Posted by: mrp at August 11, 2011 09:37 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: mrp
Why? And give some asshole in the MFM the chance to talk about competing crowds and fervor level in the same state? Or to make an easy side by side comparison? It doesn't make sense. And if she was the media whore so many like to make her out to be, she wouldn't risk losing to him. So it doesn't make sense from that angle either. If/when he announces in SC and she cheers it on in Iowa, they are covering two states in one day.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 11, 2011 09:38 AM (326rv)
That's what I was going to say.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 09:39 AM (5H6zj)
It could be a good ticket in some ways.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 09:40 AM (5H6zj)
Uh, it's August 2011, not 2012. The campaign, arguably, is like in the top of the first inning still.
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 11, 2011 09:42 AM (wc/Br)
Look, Palin made a personal campaign appearance with Perry during the Texas 2010 Republican gubernatorial campaign. He needed her to beat KBH and to establish his Tea Party credentials, such as they were.
The crowd went wild when Palin made her appearance.
Posted by: mrp at August 11, 2011 09:43 AM (HjPtV)
It could be a good ticket in some ways.
Rubio is a much better attack dog. I don't see Romney doing that as a VP candidate. Plus I don't see Mitt willingly playing second chair to anyone.
I'm still pushing for Rubio to give the keynote speech at the RNC. Let the entire nation bask in his awesomeness for a few minutes.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 11, 2011 09:44 AM (ignDe)
Because he's sufficiently conservative and free-market on the issues, and on competence and accomplishment he is like 50x more impressive than anyone else.
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 11, 2011 09:44 AM (wc/Br)
That would be interesting. On a personal level, I like Rudy and IIRC he gave a great speech at the convention. But he seems a little feeble or something in interviews. He has a bit of a speech impediment or flaw, as if he has bad dentures. I dunno how well he plays.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 09:45 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 09:47 AM (EPcuy)
I seem to recall a big ol' hairy thread about that.....
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 11, 2011 09:48 AM (ignDe)
Posted by: mrp at August 11, 2011 09:48 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: t-bird at August 11, 2011 09:49 AM (FcR7P)
No. He didn't. He was beating KBH quite handily on his own. He and Gov. Palin are (purportedly) actually friends, and she was on her Kingmaker tour, so it made sense for both of them, but he didn't need her there.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 11, 2011 09:49 AM (8y9MW)
Have none of you read Going Rogue? Palin talks about working with Perry through the Governor's association and considers him to be a close friend.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 11, 2011 09:52 AM (ignDe)
I'm at the point where anybody we run against the JEF gets my vote, I have my fingers-crossed candidates I hope aren't the ones, but I think Perry has lots of potential.
Posted by: Theresa D., your favorite TPT, and you know it! at August 11, 2011 09:52 AM (Zgfnd)
Really? To me, even when Mitt was my front-runner (which he was for quite a few months), I have felt for a long time that Mitt's resume is getting dustier by the minute. On the one hand, that could have worked to his advantage -- he could have used that to distance himself from MassCare. Instead, he doubled-down. Then he doubled-down on ethanol.
So how does a one-term governor of a mid-range importance state from four years ago who implemented the precursor for the worst piece of domestic legislation to hit our country in decades stack up favorably against a two and a half term governor of one of the most important and diverse states in the union.... who has successful navigated that state through the current economic crisis?
I just don't see it.
I can't recall where you are, PP, but all I can tell you is that despite the polling numbers, the enthusiasm level for Romney amongst the (conservative) LDS community is not high. He's lost support. My hubby works with upper echelon LDS folks and politicos from that group and they are not excited about Mitt.
IF Perry has no skeletons pertaining to anti-LDS sentiment, I think he will pull some support from that community, even in the primary.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 09:52 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 11, 2011 09:54 AM (wc/Br)
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 11, 2011 09:55 AM (kaOJx)
The man's a former US Attorney who successfully took on the mob. It would also be a huge plus to have someone with integrity like him in that job after the parade of fucking losers like Holder and Reno who have had the job the last few administrations.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at August 11, 2011 09:56 AM (VZ10+)
Posted by: mrp at August 11, 2011 09:56 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 09:57 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 09:58 AM (EPcuy)
Posted by: t-bird at August 11, 2011 09:58 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: The Mega Indepedent at August 11, 2011 09:59 AM (ZLU0o)
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 11, 2011 10:00 AM (wc/Br)
Posted by: buzzion at August 11, 2011 10:04 AM (GULKT)
I don't think he needs to be on a ticket with Romney or Rudy. Maybe T-Paw after he drops out of the primaries.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 10:05 AM (M9Ie6)
Even with the usual biased moderators out the wazoo, this is a guy who will clean Obama's clock and put it back together for him during a debate.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at August 11, 2011 10:05 AM (N5zTl)
Look, Palin made a personal campaign appearance with Perry during the Texas 2010 Republican gubernatorial campaign. He needed her to beat KBH and to establish his Tea Party credentials, such as they were.
The crowd went wild when Palin made her appearance.
Posted by: mrp
You are comparing a gubernatorial race in Texas of all places with an announcement for President. Again, I made reference to the MFM, not the crowds. An announcement by Perry has to be about him and his candidacy, not "and the crowds showed wild-eyed drooling enthusiam when Sarah Palin showed up with her fake breasts, and oh yeah, Perry was here." brought to you by Newsweak.
Instead, I bet that we'll hear, "And now reporting from Iowa, Palin cheered Perry's announcement and shared it with a crowd here who seemed pleased with the news".
Yes, I'm wishing here.
Think it through.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 11, 2011 10:06 AM (6rX0K)
My support for Palin is strictly because of her positions on the issues - life and 2nd amendment rights, and her willingness, against a fiercely hostile MSM/Dem assault to destroy her, to promote those issues. Her executive experience, her background in the private sector, her "normal" life impresses me.
I have not met her, talked to her, nor have I purchased or read either of her books. I have not attended a Palin appearance. I have not donated to her PAC
But I support Sarah Palin 100%. If she endorses Perry, it would be the first time she miscalculated on a national level. Perry is an Establishment guy, a consummate deal-maker. In a "normal" election year, like 1996, that might be enough to win. But 2012 will be a political revolutionary year and Perry isn't a revolutionary leader.
Posted by: mrp at August 11, 2011 10:07 AM (HjPtV)
Oh, I agree. One of the appeals Perry holds for me is that he seems the most well-rounded of the candidates. In some ways his VP doesn't matter.
I'm just thinking that Romney has such great fundraising chops it would be very useful to combine those with Perry's own abilities for the general.
All I care about is the general. The Rubio idea holds some appeal, but a lot of that is from a feel-good perspective. On a practical level, Romney may actually bring more to the table.
I don't see that Pawlenty would bring anything. And I'm not sure I'd trust Rudy to campaign hard enough, even though he *can* be great, he's inconsistent. And NY is not in play anyway.
Christie is staying put.
So maybe there's a wild card person out there, but if not, I think it'll be Rubio or Romney and somehow I think it really might be Romney. Mitt can't really run for anything else (he has no home base imho) so if/when he loses, he's back into the private sector.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 10:09 AM (5H6zj)
Cap & Trade
His web site currently says
he is totally against it and he “unsure” of the facts in AGW. But checking his record as governor he was
for it before he was against it.
He has flip-flopped. http://tinyurl.com/4x24a8z
Neutral change to Negative
Gun ControlHe said he supports the 2nd amendment and the
assault weapons ban.
That statement is not compatible. The 2nd amendment does not say “may not be infringed except for ugly weapons”.
Fail - Negative
Small GovernmentThe Club for Growth gives him a mixed record
for tax and spend.
However, the real kicker is Romneycare. Although he didnÂ’t push it he approved it and then took credit for it. This was a massive increase in the size of government and State spending.
We also have this actually now during the campaign related to partisan debate over the debt limit and tax increases. This is the real killer here folks.
Los Angeles Times June 28, 2011
As Democratic and Republican leaders in Washington struggled to find agreement
on spending cuts and extending the debt limit, Mitt Romney struck a
conciliatory note in New Hampshire on Monday by lamenting partisan feuding
while touting his record of working with Democrats -- even the Senate's onetime
liberal lion Edward M. Kennedy.
...
By way of contrast, Romney said, during his early years as governor he held
weekly meetings with Democratic legislators after realizing that to get
something done he "had to be friendly."
Collaboration in Massachusetts was possible, Romney told business leaders in
Salem, because he didn't attack lawmakers from the other party as "a bunch
of Neanderthals."
Utter fail – Negative
Socialized healthcareUtter fail
Border ControlHis web site says he is against amnesty and is for border control. So what is his past record? Well, in 2005 he was all for McCainÂ’s Amnesty plan. SO this is another flip-flop.
Negative
AbortionWhile governor he was all for right to chose, now he is right to life. Another flip-flop.
Negative
SUMMARY
So in summary, out of the 6 major conservative issues he has flip-flopped on 3, and after reconsidering the weight of his record against his flip flops and the fact that I punished T-Paw for these I have changed his neutrals there to negatives. Also factored in his outrageous statement about working with Democrats on the budget and taxes on the small government category changing that from mixed to massive negative.
So out of 6 he gets massive liberal fail 6 negatives. He is worse than Huntsman who had at least a positive on abortion with 4 negatives and a neutral.
Posted by: Vic at August 11, 2011 10:11 AM (M9Ie6)
Fair enough.
I think Perry has a terrific record on both life issues and guns, but obviously there is more that comes into play when looking at a candidate. I could never (?) vote for Huntsman because he seems wanting in character, even though he was a decent conservative governor.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 10:11 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 10:12 AM (EPcuy)
Yeah, in a way her being Iowa helps Perry a lot. He's not even on the ballot (neither is she), so really she's stealing the thunder of the straw poll winner.
One thing that surprises me is that I thought Palin would be more of a Bachmann backer. Maybe she will be, but it doesn't look like that right now.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 10:13 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Pro-bombney at August 11, 2011 10:15 AM (EPcuy)
Posted by: True_Grits at August 11, 2011 10:16 AM (S5shW)
Posted by: ParisParamus at August 11, 2011 02:00 PM (wc/Br)
Hey, I like Palin. Don't make me take it back.
Posted by: The Mega Indepedent at August 11, 2011 10:20 AM (ZLU0o)
Posted by: Natasha at August 11, 2011 10:27 AM (jU5uf)
Yeah, in a way her being Iowa helps Perry a lot. He's not even on the ballot (neither is she), so really she's stealing the thunder of the straw poll winner.
One thing that surprises me is that I thought Palin would be more of a Bachmann backer. Maybe she will be, but it doesn't look like that right now.
Posted by: Y-not
It gets better. That crowd I'm alluding to? She drew that crowd. When she gets them to cheer for Perry, that's sending a signal. Palin backers will be encouraged to back Perry. Everyone else in the field now knows that they are running against the two of them. That's going to narrow the field fast.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 11, 2011 10:27 AM (326rv)
Ok, I know it's not PC around here, but I don't like Bachmann as a candidate. Her positions are great, but overall, for me, something just isn't right.
Like it or not, she does have the crazy eyes. I went and looked at some of the photos on her site after the Newsweek cover photo, and the crazy eyes are in a lot of the photos on her site. She's not particularly photogenic.
And, yes, image has a lot to do with winning presidential elections, right or wrong.
Sarah's not stupid. It may be that she's not backing Bachmann because she knows it's a losing proposition.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 11, 2011 10:34 AM (ignDe)
Posted by: Laura Castellano at August 11, 2011 10:39 AM (fuw6p)
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch
Palin would be doing just what the 'realists' here advocate; support the most electable conservative candidate. Perry appears to be most conservative guy with a winning resume and polling numbers.
Add to that the fact that the MFM is making nice with Romney and you know know whom they fear.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 11, 2011 10:41 AM (326rv)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 10:45 AM (+Tgsi)
Posted by: lone chicago conservative at August 11, 2011 10:51 AM (2sgnB)
Drudge headline up: "Perry Cocked To Run." Me likey.
He is also loaded for bear and his bear market. Fire away, Rick.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 11, 2011 10:56 AM (FnRYN)
Posted by: mpurinTexas - Evil Conservanatrix at August 11, 2011 10:59 AM (ignDe)
Posted by: Molon Labe at August 11, 2011 11:10 AM (g5MrG)
I mean, seriously, wasn't former IRS stormtrooper Michelle Bachmann bad enough? Yeah, I guess somebody who made money abusing taxpayers probably knows something about the tax code.
Or Mitt "I invented Obamacare and I stand by it!" Romney?
Or Nancy Pelosi's favorite candiate, Hermann "I don't know what my position will be until I'm elected" Cain (you have to vote for him to see what you'll get).
Posted by: Evil Red Scandi at August 11, 2011 11:13 AM (M+Vm5)
Vote for Perry he's much better than Obama. For example he didn't attend Wright's church.
He doesn't think the Muslim call to pray is the greatest thing he has ever heard.
He's clean and doesn't semell (oops the same thing was said about Obama),
BUSH hates him.
Can't think of any reason I'd vote for him. But I like my presidents like Reagan and not like McCain, unlike some of the people here.
Posted by: Molon Labe at August 11, 2011 11:17 AM (g5MrG)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 11:17 AM (EPcuy)
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 11:21 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: lone chicago conservative at August 11, 2011 11:22 AM (2sgnB)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 11:23 AM (EPcuy)
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 11:23 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 11:29 AM (EPcuy)
1) Texas is the 2nd-largest state in the country, both by geographical size and by population.
2) Houston is the 4th-largest urban area in the U.S.
3) Texas has been growing steadily over the past 10 years, which is why they've added jobs and FOUR new congressional districts. (NY lost 2 of theirs.)
4) A large % of the Texas population is of Mexican descent.
My point? After 10 years of running this large, diverse state successfully, who is better qualified to deal with all the problems we're facing as a nation? What amazes me is that he actually wants to do it. He could just pull Texas out of the Union and watch the rest of us sink.
Another "Texas Governor?" HELL YES!!
Posted by: WildWillyC at August 11, 2011 11:37 AM (TjOL+)
I think her point is that there is a very vocal, if tiny, minority of "conservatives" who claim that being born in the U.S. is not sufficient (even for someone who is not the child of a diplomat) if the parent(s) were not citizens at the time. That's the comparison, I believe, to Obama whose daddy was not a U.S. citizen.
There's no evidence that I can find in any U.S. code to support their claim and there's mountains of precedence to suggest otherwise, but that doesn't shake their faith, I guess, that they can get rid of Obama under that supposed ineligibility.
Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 11:40 AM (5H6zj)
Tancredo is not my favorite but he knows the immigration issue. Perry has some good points but being "open borders" isn't one of them.
Posted by: lone chicago conservative at August 11, 2011 11:48 AM (2sgnB)
Posted by: lone chicago conservative at August 11, 2011 11:49 AM (2sgnB)
Posted by: Joffen at August 11, 2011 11:52 AM (EPcuy)
If he turns out to be the best shot at defeating Obama then he deserves our full support, which means real support, not hold-your-nose-and-vote-for-McCain type support. I'm just pointing out that it might be too early to annoint him our savior. I'd also like to see how well he can take a beating. With Obama's record the only thing he can run on is making the other guy look even worse. With the MSM still fully invested in Obama the next Repub candidate is going to get tarred like never before.
Posted by: lone chicago conservative at August 11, 2011 12:03 PM (2sgnB)
Posted by: Molon Labe at August 11, 2011 01:26 PM (g5MrG)
Perry in 2012, because McCain was too macho for you!
Posted by: Molon Labe at August 11, 2011 01:27 PM (g5MrG)
Posted by: Molon Labe at August 11, 2011 01:30 PM (g5MrG)
Posted by: Al Gore's Second Chokra at August 11, 2011 01:33 PM (f3GW1)
#341
Wow Mutt you again dazzle with your wit and intellect. We all know you can fund the mount. Barnet Frank will attest to that.
No wonder you describe yourself as a RINO for life. Who am I to dispute your self description.
My Reagan beat the commies and faced down commies the world over and fought big government.
I can understand why you support open borders Perry.
Posted by: Molon Labe at August 11, 2011 01:39 PM (g5MrG)
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Posted by: Laura Castellano at August 11, 2011 02:59 PM (fuw6p)
Posted by: The Magicians AudioBook at August 11, 2011 04:04 PM (LnWQ1)
I was in San Fran at Pier 39 a month ago with my bro and family when PM Dombrovskis and his escort walked right past us on the sidewalk and got into their modest motorcade of one limo, one SUV one sedan 2 chp & 4 motorcycles.
He was in town at the end of a US tour that took him all over the place including Texas where presumably he talked with Gov. Perry. 40-ish steely-eyed computer nerd in a $3000 suit and crewcut who was hard not to notice.
when i saw them i thot, "small-to-mid sized euro head of state." They had 6 agents 3 Euro & 3 state dept. Americans. One was an attractive mid-40's california blond who nodded when i said "head of state" to my bro who was arguing that it was only diplomatic. she told us, "I can tell you what i just cant tell you who."
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