August 30, 2011
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Supported... HillaryCare in 1993? Perry says no, but that's the claim.
In a letter to Clinton, who is now U.S. Secretary of State, Perry wrote: “I think your efforts in trying to reform the nation’s health care system are most commendable.”“I would like to request that the task force give particular consideration to the needs of the nation’s farmers, ranchers, and agriculture workers, and other members of rural communities,” Perry continued, noting his administration’s focus on economic development for rural Texans. “Rural populations have a high proportion of uninsured people, rising health care costs, and often experience lack of services.”
“Again, your efforts are worthy,” Perry concluded, ”and I hope you will remember this constituency as the task force progresses.”
Perry's response is that this was written early in the process, before the extent of Hillary's proposed "reforms" were made public. He claims that as Commissioner of Agriculture, it was his duty to remind Washington about his constituency (farmers).
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Posted by: © Sponge at August 30, 2011 12:01 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Dan at August 30, 2011 12:02 PM (mXBxH)
Posted by: Name: * at August 30, 2011 12:02 PM (H3X4e)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2011 12:02 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: lu at August 30, 2011 12:02 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 30, 2011 12:03 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: SomeSay the Strawmarian at August 30, 2011 12:04 PM (B0ebt)
Posted by: Pamela Gellar at August 30, 2011 12:05 PM (fj/P0)
Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at August 30, 2011 12:05 PM (nRTou)
Posted by: Sharkman at August 30, 2011 12:05 PM (wMsKw)
Posted by: Chaz at August 30, 2011 12:06 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 30, 2011 12:07 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 30, 2011 12:07 PM (IpiZb)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2011 12:08 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 30, 2011 12:08 PM (IpiZb)
Posted by: lu at August 30, 2011 12:08 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Pamela Gellar at August 30, 2011 12:09 PM (fj/P0)
Posted by: SomeSay the Strawmarian at August 30, 2011 12:09 PM (B0ebt)
I'm just an analyst doing my job!
Posted by: Karl Rove at August 30, 2011 12:10 PM (Y+DPZ)
Get better DNA, Daryl.
Posted by: lu at August 30, 2011 12:11 PM (pLTLS)
Disaster in the '30's???
But FDR inherited a depression!
FDR made everything better.
Oh wait, no he didn't. FDR made everything worse. And then things slowly got better.
Posted by: soothie at August 30, 2011 12:11 PM (sqkOB)
Posted by: trainer at August 30, 2011 12:12 PM (Rojyk)
Darryl Hannah arrested at the WH?
Park Police required seventeen officers to subdue and handcuff the fifty-foot woman.
Posted by: FireHorse at August 30, 2011 12:12 PM (RZRz9)
Posted by: Libtard Douche at August 30, 2011 12:13 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Pamela's Bra Clasp at August 30, 2011 12:13 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: lu at August 30, 2011 12:13 PM (pLTLS)
Hannah was arrested protesting a new oil pipeline between Canada and the US.
Another job killing regulation Obama will embrace enthusiastically!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 30, 2011 12:13 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Libtard Douche at August 30, 2011 04:13 PM
His pants look awfully wrinkled to me
Posted by: David Brooks at August 30, 2011 12:14 PM (Y+DPZ)
Oh wait, no he didn't. FDR made everything worse.
Hitler wasn't involved in Pearl Harbor. Hitler wasn't involved in Pearl Harbor!!
Posted by: FireHorse at August 30, 2011 12:14 PM (RZRz9)
Posted by: SomeSay the Strawmarian at August 30, 2011 12:14 PM (B0ebt)
Posted by: lu at August 30, 2011 04:13 PM (pLTLS)
Noooooooooooo!
Posted by: Darth Geller at August 30, 2011 12:14 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 30, 2011 12:14 PM (f9c2L)
Here's a link.
There were something like twelve people at this giant protest. Including senile fuckwit and government employee James Hansen.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 30, 2011 12:15 PM (OK/vv)
Vilify these bastards.
Call out Plouffe and Jarrett.
Tell people that Valerie Jarret is a gremlin and she eats feces.
Posted by: soothie at August 30, 2011 12:16 PM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2011 12:16 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: Rick Perry at August 30, 2011 12:16 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: Waterhouse
.........
They were talking this up over at Daily Kooks.. one the the diarists promoting it seemed to consider it a success of they could get arrested. Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 30, 2011 12:16 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Perky Pam Geller at August 30, 2011 12:17 PM (fj/P0)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2011 12:17 PM (UOM48)
Iran says won't stop uranium enrichment program
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 30, 2011 12:17 PM (9hSKh)
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at August 30, 2011 12:17 PM (zpqa2)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 12:18 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2011 12:18 PM (UOM48)
Under the belief that conservative Democrats could save the Democratic party.
I think this is the weakest attack against him but it is out there. Can't backtrack from the record. Fairly decent answer.
Posted by: lu at August 30, 2011 12:18 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2011 12:19 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at August 30, 2011 12:19 PM (zpqa2)
Posted by: Ellen at August 30, 2011 12:20 PM (B1FXc)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 30, 2011 12:20 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: blaster at August 30, 2011 12:21 PM (l5dj7)
Posted by: lu at August 30, 2011 12:21 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: mike at August 30, 2011 12:21 PM (8JD1f)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 30, 2011 12:22 PM (UlUS4)
Discuss.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Will Chaz lead or follow???? Yes, I have issues.
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 30, 2011 12:22 PM (iYbLN)
Under the belief that conservative Democrats could save the Democratic party.
I think this is the weakest attack against him but it is out there. Can't backtrack from the record. Fairly decent answer.
I like how he followed that up by saying he was talking to Michael Reagan and said to him that he became a Republican at a younger age than his dad did.
Oh and about Healthcare:
"Sign an Executive Order to wipe out as much of Obamacare as he can on the first day"
That's decent. And damn sure better than I will issue waivers to everyone. Still don't think that's far enough
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 12:22 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Dick Cheney at August 30, 2011 12:23 PM (8tXBM)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 30, 2011 12:23 PM (fNdyx)
Ok, guv, tell me your plan, seriously I would like to know.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 30, 2011 12:24 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: Rick Fucking Perry at August 30, 2011 12:24 PM (fj/P0)
Buzz, +1 to what you said.
Posted by: lu at August 30, 2011 12:24 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Mike Gallagher at August 30, 2011 12:25 PM (s1vtf)
I think that should be a new feature (the AoS Love Advisor), people could post questions and we could give our comments.
Posted by: Penfold at August 30, 2011 12:25 PM (1PeEC)
Unfortunately, they'll be decorating my desk lest my car get keyed.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2011 12:26 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at August 30, 2011 12:26 PM (zpqa2)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 30, 2011 12:26 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 30, 2011 04:22 PM (iYbLN)
That question entered my mind in the last thread, I just didn't get the chance to type it.
Posted by: © Sponge at August 30, 2011 12:26 PM (UK9cE)
Discuss.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2011 04:21 PM (UOM4
Who is Chaz Bono and what is Dancing with the Stars?
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 30, 2011 12:26 PM (0N5pL)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 30, 2011 12:27 PM (FkKjr)
Gov Perry's problem is that he doesn't know how to double-speak.
He needs to learn how to say "I'm gonna cut taxes" and "I'm gonna increase spending programs" in the same sentence.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2011 12:27 PM (sqkOB)
I loved it that he brought up the concept of.......Wisdom.
Yeah, what a concept...wisdom. It would be great to have someone in the White House that had some of that, and wasn't afraid to use it.
Do they teach 'wisdom' at ivy league schools?
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at August 30, 2011 12:28 PM (8kT0g)
Posted by: lu at August 30, 2011 12:28 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: The O at August 30, 2011 12:28 PM (8tXBM)
I'll take "Signs of the Apocalypse for $1600", Alex.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 30, 2011 12:29 PM (OK/vv)
I think that should be a new feature (the AoS Love Advisor), people could post questions and we could give our comments.
Posted by: Penfold at August 30, 2011 04:25 PM (1PeEC)
That happens a lot on the ONT. I think you can imagine the level of 90% of the "advice" that comes from it.
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 12:29 PM (GULKT)
I missed that. Got a link? TIA.
Posted by: Retread at August 30, 2011 12:29 PM (BO5ap)
He chuckled and said he wasn't sure where the Vineyard even was.
Heh.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2011 12:29 PM (UOM48)
I think that should be a new feature (the AoS Love Advisor), people could post questions and we could give our comments.
Posted by: Penfold at August 30, 2011 04:25 PM (1PeEC)
That happens a lot on the ONT. I think you can imagine the level of 90% of the "advice" that comes from it.
Posted by: buzzionThe usual moron answer: Show me your boobies.
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 30, 2011 12:30 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: LP at August 30, 2011 12:30 PM (8tXBM)
oh thanks for reminding me about boobs...
Anyone watching Camelot?
the chick, Eva Green, who plays Morgan has a spectacular pair
Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2011 12:31 PM (sqkOB)
Posted by: blaster at August 30, 2011 12:31 PM (l5dj7)
Posted by: lu at August 30, 2011 12:32 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Pamela Gellar
Pam has jabbering Juggs? Who knew? No wonder she's a little wacky.
Posted by: backhoe, Hobbit tea-roar-ist of Doom at August 30, 2011 12:34 PM (rFdqZ)
TV and movie boobs always look good.
You automatically know they're gonna be good otherwise they wouldn't be showing them.
Kathy Bates excepted.
I heard Diane Keaton's still looked okay in the recent movie she was in.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2011 12:34 PM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Whoopie Goldberg at August 30, 2011 12:35 PM (48wze)
Posted by: Whoopie Goldberg at August 30, 2011 04:35 PM (48wze)
Just think, Whoopie, some poor bastard married Joy Behar this summer.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2011 12:36 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: polynikes at August 30, 2011 12:38 PM (s0uvO)
Posted by: Spiker at August 30, 2011 12:39 PM (tcQsM)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 30, 2011 12:39 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: blaster at August 30, 2011 12:40 PM (l5dj7)
Yesssss!
Can't stream right now as I'm working. Appreciate the comments here filling me in.
Posted by: Theresa D., TPT--SCOaMF is one and done! at August 30, 2011 12:40 PM (Zgfnd)
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at August 30, 2011 12:42 PM (zpqa2)
Still watching Cavuto. I'm cringing to the thought that the taxpayers of the rest of the nation are going to have to choke up some more money for an "Irene stimulus". IMHO, the unions should pay to have this region repaired, since they've done more damage to this region than "Irene" could ever do, even if it was a cat 4 hurricane.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 12:42 PM (qOTYB)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 30, 2011 12:42 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Honey Badger at August 30, 2011 12:42 PM (GvYeG)
nevermind. I denounce myself.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2011 04:35 PM
One of the Dead Kennedys?
Posted by: huerfano at August 30, 2011 12:43 PM (kD+se)
Posted by: billhedrick at August 30, 2011 12:43 PM (xQApV)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 30, 2011 12:45 PM (ZDUD4)
He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it feels.
Posted by: ugknown at August 30, 2011 12:48 PM (fOPv7)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 12:49 PM (qOTYB)
Darryl Hannah,
I'd hit it.
Posted by: Jackson Browne at August 30, 2011 04:31 PM (bPbwB)
Me too!
Posted by: Zombie John-John at August 30, 2011 12:51 PM (3AuGS)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 30, 2011 12:52 PM (ZDUD4)
Iran says won't stop uranium enrichment program
Arab Spring!
Posted by: soothie at August 30, 2011 04:18 PM
Drudge posted a link to a story that Iran was backing the "rebels" against Gaddafi. More than few Arab regimes are hoping that Israel or America (well, after SCOAMF is out) takes out Iran so they won't have to
Posted by: kbdabear at August 30, 2011 01:00 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: billhedrick at August 30, 2011 04:43 PM
I can too! Corpse-man! Corpse-man! 57 states!
Watch this toss!
Posted by: HANNITY!!! at August 30, 2011 01:01 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: toby928™ at August 30, 2011 01:03 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 30, 2011 01:04 PM (0M3AQ)
Sounds like a winner to me. Seriously -- confident, NOT DUMB, and I didn't even mind the accent. Not too twangy at all.
Posted by: Jeff B. at August 30, 2011 01:05 PM (D9z3D)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 30, 2011 01:06 PM (0M3AQ)
156 Just listened to Rick Perry as I was assembling a chest of drawers (ah, vacation!).
Sounds like a winner to me. Seriously -- confident, NOT DUMB, and I didn't even mind the accent. Not too twangy at all.
You know what accent bothers me? A NY accent. Fuckers sound like ducks.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 30, 2011 01:07 PM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 01:09 PM (ZxiLK)
Posted by: hannitys_hybrid at August 30, 2011 01:13 PM (zpqa2)
Posted by: newt at August 30, 2011 01:14 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 01:18 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Sean Hannity at August 30, 2011 01:20 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: KOW at August 30, 2011 01:22 PM (TbM8N)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 01:25 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 01:27 PM (niZvt)
Perry wrote: “I think your efforts in trying to reform the nation’s health care system are most commendable...” ”and I hope you will remember this constituency as the task force progresses.”
I remain un-"concerned." Who's "against" reforming health care ? The question is how they propose to do it.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame, Perpetual Cynic/Pessimist at August 30, 2011 01:28 PM (yK8YH)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 01:29 PM (QxSug)
I'm not a big gung-ho Perry person, but I just can't read the above sentence as "support" for Hillarycare.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 30, 2011 01:32 PM (1rHeD)
"Hey! Commie Bitch! In your eagerness to dump billions if not trillions of dollars into nationalized health care for minorities and other protected pedestal classes to buy votes, please don't forget to cover some people that actually have jobs and help make America function. Like the people who grow the fucking food.
Now blow me."
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 01:37 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: 7HEAVENS at August 30, 2011 01:37 PM (tuCVl)
Posted by: PR at August 30, 2011 01:39 PM (XmJZ7)
Rick was trying to be nice to a senile old hippy broad.
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 01:43 PM (4CSeG)
Parry is a liar. He wrote the letter in early April, 1993. Here's what Bill Clinton said about Hillarycare in January, 2003. It was clear in April that this was meant to be universal health care coverage.
STATEMENT OF PRESIDENT CLINTON THE WHITE HOUSE JANUARY 25, 1993
Good afternoon.
As I travelled across our country this past year, no stories moved me more than the stories of those families struggling to pay for health care. I listened to Marie Kostos, a working mother in Columbus, Ohio who had to quit work in order to get Medicaid coverage for her infant, who is stricken with spina bifida....To Mary Annie and Edward Davis, a New Hampshire couple who faced the terrible choice of having only enough money to buy the food they needed or the prescription drugs they had to have....And I listened to a group of coal miners in Beckley, West Virginia -- some of whom had worked the mines for more than 30 years but were at risk of losing their health benefits.
Their message to me -- and to the Congress -- was simple: it's time to make America's health care system make sense. It's time to bring costs under control -- so that every family can be secure in the thought that a medical emergency or a long illness will not mean bankruptcy. And it's time to bring quality coverage to every American -- to cut back on the paperwork and the excuses and make health care a right, not a privilege.
As a first step in responding to the demands of millions of Americans, today I am announcing the formation of the President's Task Force on National Health Care Reform. Although the issue is complex, the task force's mission is simple: to build on the work of the campaign and transition, to listen to all parties, and to prepare health care reform legislation that I will submit to Congress this spring.
Posted by: Jim at August 30, 2011 01:43 PM (YwDKF)
Posted by: Jim at August 30, 2011 01:44 PM (YwDKF)
He would, however, argue heatedly with a fire hydrant about whether 9/11 was an inside job.
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 01:45 PM (4CSeG)
Hey, fucknugget, who you backing this go-round?
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 01:47 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 01:50 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 05:47 PM (4CSeG)
--Not Perry, Bachman or Palin.
Posted by: Jim at August 30, 2011 01:51 PM (YwDKF)
--Not Perry, Bachman or Palin.
Posted by: Jim at August 30, 2011 05:51 PM (YwDKF)
Then go suck Ron Paul's shriveled old crank at a rest stop and quit stinking the place up with your bullshit.
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 01:53 PM (4CSeG)
Then go suck Ron Paul's shriveled old crank at a rest stop and quit stinking the place up with your bullshit.
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 05:53 PM (4CSeG)
I'd tell you to come blow me, but you would.
Posted by: Jim at August 30, 2011 01:57 PM (YwDKF)
Jim, why did you highlight this?
It is so vague. It means almost nothing. I am cool with bringing costs under control and preparing for emergencies and less red tape. I'm not cool with mandates, etc, but the vague goals are usually reasonable sounding.
Nice try, but Perry looks fine to me. He had a job to do in representing farmers. What's the big deal?
Posted by: Dustin at August 30, 2011 01:59 PM (fF625)
Jim may be a mittens fan, what with his knowledge of socialized medicine.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 30, 2011 01:59 PM (kaOJx)
Perry comes from farm stock, and he knows what a shitty lot in life it is for the people who don't own the farms.
He knows that farmers can't afford to pay benefits to a tractor driver or irrigater because the farm down the road hires illegals for $4.00 a fuckin hour cash.
“Rural populations have a high proportion of uninsured people, rising health care costs, and often experience lack of services.”
He knew that Hillary's transparent attempt to buy the slacker vote would typically forget all about the working people in Perry's constituency in their rush to pour out the Social Justice.
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 02:00 PM (4CSeG)
California morons. Perry will be at a meet and greet in the OC next week. Info about how to get tickets is here.
Excerpt from OC Register article:
Texas Gov. Rick Perry committed Monday to holding what they’re calling an “old-fashioned meet-and-greet” rally for the Republican faithful at Roger’s Gardens in Newport Beach next week, which is significant for several reasons. He becomes the first challenger for the GOP nomination to hold a large public event in Orange County; it will signal to Republicans in O.C. how some of their party leaders are leaning (that is, away from Mitt Romney); and it signals to the rest of the state’s Republicans which way the wind is blowing in the most important conservative county in the U.S.
Tickets for the rally, scheduled for 10:30 a.m. Sept. 8, are free but limited because of the size of the venue (contact ocgop.org for info), so it might be more appropriate to call it a semipublic rally. Nonetheless, it will be sufficient in size, 400-500 souls, that its political purposes will be served.
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 02:01 PM (5H6zj)
I'd tell you to come blow me, but you would.
Posted by: Jim at August 30, 2011 05:57 PM (YwDKF)
I'm not a microbiologist, you skid mark in a looter's track suit.
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 02:01 PM (4CSeG)
Jim, why did you highlight this?
It is so vague. It means almost nothing. I am cool with bringing costs under control and preparing for emergencies and less red tape. I'm not cool with mandates, etc, but the vague goals are usually reasonable sounding.
Nice try, but Perry looks fine to me. He had a job to do in representing farmers. What's the big deal?
Posted by: Dustin at August 30, 2011 05:59 PM (fF625)
--It was clearly about "universal health care" when Perry wrote the letter saying he appreciated her efforts.
Posted by: Jim at August 30, 2011 02:06 PM (YwDKF)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 30, 2011 02:10 PM (dZ756)
sooooo I guess you shouldn't vote for Perry then.
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 02:10 PM (4CSeG)
sooooo I guess you shouldn't vote for Perry then.
--I won't vote for Perry anyways (too socially conservative). But he's a liar if he says it was the later details that changed his mind. It was universal coverage from the start.
Posted by: Jim at August 30, 2011 02:14 PM (YwDKF)
Tickets for the rally, scheduled for 10:30 a.m. Sept. 8, are free but limited because of the size of the venue (contact ocgop.org for info), so it might be more appropriate to call it a semipublic rally. Nonetheless, it will be sufficient in size, 400-500 souls, that its political purposes will be served.
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 06:01 PM (5H6zj)
--That does sound like a Perry or Bachmann rally. Is Perry baptizing them at the end of the rally?
Posted by: Jim at August 30, 2011 02:16 PM (YwDKF)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 30, 2011 02:18 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: PR at August 30, 2011 02:19 PM (XmJZ7)
Posted by: PR at August 30, 2011 02:21 PM (XmJZ7)
--That does sound like a Perry or Bachmann rally. Is Perry baptizing them at the end of the rally?
Posted by: Jim at August 30, 2011 06:16 PM (YwDKF)
It's ok that God scares you, Jim, and makes you feel icky.
Maybe Jeremiah Wright can show up and curse America and whitey for a few minutes.
Maybe Bill Ayers can give a bomb-making demonstration.
Maybe Ron Paul can commune with the Mothership and share insight into 9/11 being an inside job.
Maybe Obama can lead the call to prayer.
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 02:22 PM (4CSeG)
It's ok that God scares you, Jim, and makes you feel icky.
Maybe Jeremiah Wright can show up and curse America and whitey for a few minutes.
Maybe Bill Ayers can give a bomb-making demonstration.
Maybe Ron Paul can commune with the Mothership and share insight into 9/11 being an inside job.
Maybe Obama can lead the call to prayer.
--It was really f*cking stupid to use the words "souls" in the Orange County article (which I assume came from a Perry press release).
Posted by: Jim at August 30, 2011 02:26 PM (YwDKF)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 30, 2011 02:26 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: PR at August 30, 2011 02:38 PM (XmJZ7)
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 02:50 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 30, 2011 02:53 PM (dZ756)
Dumbfuck, they use the word "souls" on commercial airliners too. Does that mean all the pilots are scarey Christian snake handlers who want you to stop cornholing your sister?
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 03:03 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Penfold at August 30, 2011 04:25 PM (1PeEC)
We already do that. Have you met our dear Chemjeff yet?
Posted by: As If! at August 30, 2011 03:09 PM (piMMO)
Jim Jim is a Romney fan. So you know, government controlled healthcare is just a horrible thought to him and that's why he needed to bring it up.
Isn't it interesting that he's talked about liking Romney before but when he wanted to attack Perry on a view of Healthcare from 1993 he didn't want to reveal who his preferred candidate was and only say who it wasn't. What a little shit you are Jim.
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 03:22 PM (GULKT)
I thought conservatives were all for vetting of candidates before getting down on their knees for those candidates. Got a lot of Obama-2008-worship-style stuff going on up in here.
This dude has 25 years in public office in TX to dig through and he's only been in the race officially for a couple of weeks. Way too damn soon to be dropping trou on his behalf, I would think.
Bush released thousands of documents from his time in the gov'r mansion when he declared. Palin's been vetted from here to kingdom come and back. Romney's had the rectal exam for a few years now, too.
Let's just wait and see how this man's background plays out before we start measuring the drapes, eh?
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 30, 2011 03:33 PM (dcoFe)
Posted by: ginaswo at August 30, 2011 03:38 PM (Zdomu)
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 30, 2011 07:33 PM (dcoFe)
Sooo, none of Perry's previous opponents ever did opposition research on him?
He's won several elections before this one.
All they can come up with is he is both gay and a skirt chasing ladies' man.
yawn.
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 04:06 PM (4CSeG)
"Palin's been vetted from here to kingdom come and back." [~trumpetdaddy]
-------
Not by conservatives. .....She's been vetted by liberals, liberals looking for scandals. But she has never been vetted by conservatives.
By holding back, she is conveniently staying out of the debates and avoiding the scrutiny on her real positions on the issues.......the scrutiny that conservatives would give her. She is playing us.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at August 30, 2011 04:18 PM (8kT0g)
I've not seen anything that is a deal-breaker on Perry, yet. But there is a whole lot of iffy, he-took-shortcuts kind of crap that might be worrisome.
Texas isn't the rest of the country. Lots of shit is taken for granted there that doesn't play well in the midwest or in the mountain west. We aren't going to win the west coast or the northeast, so I'm not too concerned about their precious feelings, but where the election will actually be decided, Texas is an open question.
Good ole boy back-slappin' deal-makin' bullshit may be kosher in Texas but a lot of folks find that kind of corporatist, insider, crony capitalist way of doing business to be off-putting. Sounds a lot like the "Chicago way" with a twang.
It's a talking point in Perry's behalf that he's never lost an election. True, but he's never run anywhere but in Texas. Ronald Reagan ran in a national election for the nomination in 1976. He knew the lay of the land. Romney, Palin, and God love him, Ron Paul, have all run in national nomination elections. So has Obama.
Just sayin'...
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 30, 2011 04:27 PM (dcoFe)
"Not by conservatives. .....She's been vetted by liberals, liberals looking for scandals. But she has never been vetted by conservatives.
"By holding back, she is conveniently staying out of the debates and avoiding the scrutiny on her real positions on the issues.......the scrutiny that conservatives would give her. She is playing us."
Really? Really!?
Anybody who doesn't know Palin's positions on any issue of import is willfully being ignorant. She hasn't exactly kept a low profile personally, or on issues.
Try again, Skippy.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 30, 2011 04:31 PM (dcoFe)
Posted by: Acceptable Loss AudioBook at August 30, 2011 05:04 PM (TiSe5)
I think it will lead till the fat foot steps on someone.
Posted by: Elton John at August 30, 2011 05:36 PM (YBKn9)
Yeah, I remember that press conference half way through her first term as Governor.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 30, 2011 06:33 PM (hqurE)
Dumbfuck, they use the word "souls" on commercial airliners too. Does that mean all the pilots are scarey Christian snake handlers who want you to stop cornholing your sister?
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 07:03 PM (4CSeG)
They use the words "souls" when they're asking you to assume the crash position. Will Perry soon be in the same place?
Posted by: Jim at August 30, 2011 06:42 PM (49LlK)
No more room. Romney, Gingrich, Pawlenty, and Cain are already there.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 30, 2011 06:49 PM (hqurE)
There is plenty of stuff there that will give conservatives pause, all right, but much of that isn't even harmful with moderates and independents. However, Perry needs the conservative vote in the early primaries, so that is the key constituency which will be judging his record.
But again, this is just lame. Nothing in the letter supports the sort of government-centric system that ended up being proposed - remember even the negotiation sessions and planning meetings were kept secret.
Posted by: Adjoran at August 30, 2011 10:44 PM (VfmLu)
What in the fuck are you talking about? Is this the best you can do?
Trash a state that is run pretty damn well, with minimal drama?
Posted by: Dustin at August 30, 2011 11:51 PM (fF625)
You know, annoying assholes like Bostonians, New Yorkers, and Texans.
There is a certain stain of conservative (just as there is liberal) who wants to "stick it to the other side" and gets all "hell yeah!" when certain types of candidates make assholish statements about the other side. Perry is playing to that peanut gallery right now. He's also benefiting from Bachmann's collapse, Palin's absence (thus far), and the general distaste for Romney.
When you dig into Perry's record you find he is a general conservative with some corporatist tendencies who talks a big game. Talking a big game is admired in Texas. All I'm saying is that the record doesn't quite match up to the talk and it is still way too soon to see if Perry can finesse that disconnect over the long haul outside of Texas.
We'll find out soon enough. Everybody just needs to to keep their pants on and see what happens. The first actual voting doesn't take place for five months.
Posted by: trumpetdaddy at August 31, 2011 06:09 AM (dcoFe)
I wanted to like Perry. But I don't. And he was encouraging Nationalized healthcare when he wrote that about Hillarycare. No one thought there was a reason for the national government to be involved in healthcare at all other than to nationalize it.
This was before the European examples could be examined. Lot's of people, including Rick Perry, it seems, thought it was a very good idea.
Was he a Democrat at that time or had he flipped to Republican by then.
I get the feeling Perry would flip to anything as long as he can get power and money for it.
At least his motivations are easy to understand. Not easy to like, but pretty easy to understand.
Posted by: petunia at August 31, 2011 07:34 AM (hgrmi)
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