November 22, 2011
— Ace Matthew Boyle at the Daily Caller had written a piece suggesting that Perry was approaching this issue in a too-tentative manner.
Well, Perry now publishes an Op-Ed calling for Holder to step down. The reason he waited for the Op-Ed to make this demand, I understand, was that he didn't want to seem flippant about it, and just mention it in a stump speech as a bit of red-meat rah-rah. He wanted to make sure that if he was calling for the resignation of a cabinet officer, he had laid out the case for that in a serious manner.
The op-ed was published in the Washington Times yesterday.
Ever since the Department of JusticeÂ’s gun-running operation known as Fast and Furious became public, the Obama administrationÂ’s response has been slow and infuriating. Of particular concern is Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.Â’s lack of candor concerning what he knew and when he knew it.This is not a typical case of bureaucratic bungling. A 40-year-old Border Patrol agent, Brian Terry, and possibly a U.S. immigration agent, are dead because of a horribly ill-conceived Justice Department operation that went tragically wrong.
Looks like the "bureaucratic bungling" line has been rejiggered into "This is not a typical case of bureaucratic bungling," a subtle change in wording designed to not preculde something more than "bungling."
Perry turns to the evidence that Holder was lying when he claimed, earlier, to have only heard of Fast and Furious a few weeks before, an answer seemingly concocted to forestall questions about it -- after all, if he doesn't know anything about it, what can you ask him?
I'm skipping that recap, as it's widely available, and there's a Fair Use thing.
Mr. HolderÂ’s proclaimed ignorance leaves Americans to draw one of two conclusions: Either he is guilty of extraordinary bureaucratic incompetence or he is guilty of a cover-up meant to shield him from the consequences of an operation that has left at least one federal agent dead and continues to imperil many more.Either way, it is high time for Mr. Holder to step down. If he refuses to resign, Mr. Obama must fire him immediately.
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America simply cannot tolerate an attorney general who arms the very criminals he is supposed to protect us from and then refuses to comfort the grieving parents of a slain Border Patrol agent. Nor can we tolerate a president who lacks the courage to take decisive action in restoring justice to the Department of Justice.
It is time for Mr. Holder to go.
Perry was in the Center Seat on Bret Bair's Special Report last night. As usual, he sounded prepared and fluent in an interview setting, even with several questioners. He also apologized again -- and castigated himself -- for that "you don't have a heart" line.
It does seem that Perry has a particular problem with debates, not a general problem with speaking.
Yeah, I know, the polls show him out of it. But I think that's partly due to preference falsification, as people don't support him because they guess that most other people don't support him.
All I know is that, despite Newt Gingrich's verbal agility, if he's our nominee, we cannot talk about the central role that the Democratic client-organizations Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae played in the destruction of our economy. We can't point out that it was not a lack of government intervention that caused the meltdown, but rather it was government intervention itself which created, and then overfilled, the bubble, with all sorts of ridiculous mortgages.
We also can't talk too much about Obama's individual mandate, as Gingrich was an early champion of it. (As Mitt Romney claimed in one debate -- "I got it from you.")
And if we nominate Romney, of course we cannot talk about ObamaCare at all.
I think these are central issues. If our nominee has to soft-pedal them due to the fact he's compromised on them as well, we're ceding an awful lot to Obama.
My belief is that while it's possible, albeit unlikely, that Perry will become better in debates, it is not possible for Gingrich to go back in time and refuse to consult with Freddie Mac (consult? okay), and it is not possible for Romney to go back in time and undo RomneyCare.
I gotta admit I'd really like a candidate whom the media cannot brand "dumb." I gotta admit that -- I'll be happy with Gingrich or Romney, if only for that reason.
Let's face it, Obama's not particularly smart and both Gingrich and Romney are. What a wonderful change of pace for the Republican to be demonstrably more intelligent than his Democratic opponent.
But still, as nice as that is (and it is pretty sweet, I admit), I think I'd rather have the issues.
I'd also like to have that tiny little apparently-inconsequential point that Perry's Texas has created half the country's jobs in the past two years.
I sort of think the election will be fought and won on that issue. And not so much on anything else.
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Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 11:47 AM (Xm1aB)
Link, please? My despair needs a little more than platitudes.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at November 22, 2011 11:47 AM (bjRNS)
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at November 22, 2011 11:47 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 11:49 AM (i6RpT)
Jobs, jobs, jobs. We don't need to complicate this stuff with Fannie and Freddy - we need a simple message we can ram down their throats. The problem is when you start getting into too many details about financial stuff the "independents" wander away and find something else to watch.
Posted by: Ace's liver at November 22, 2011 11:49 AM (1+XRG)
Posted by: dick parry at November 22, 2011 11:50 AM (/VGq8)
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at November 22, 2011 03:47 PM (GTbGH)
I don't know. I don't want to see the DREAM act resurrected.
Posted by: Ace's liver at November 22, 2011 11:50 AM (1+XRG)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at November 22, 2011 03:47 PM (bjRNS)
Real Clear Politics is the best place to go for polls but I posted one of the latest this morning on the news thread at the top.
Posted by: Vic at November 22, 2011 11:50 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 11:50 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Vic at November 22, 2011 11:52 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Jimmuy at November 22, 2011 11:52 AM (nJEja)
Posted by: Havedash at November 22, 2011 11:54 AM (sFD5n)
Posted by: Vic at November 22, 2011 03:45 PM (YdQQY)
in what poll? his average polling had gone from 11% to 7% in the last week
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 11:54 AM (yAor6)
No, no, no! Perry can't be our nominee because he's too unpolished, too plain spoken and he doesn't even own a yacht! What kind of yokels are you people who might support such a rube?
Posted by: Upper Crust Inside the Beltway Republican at November 22, 2011 11:54 AM (fYOZx)
Posted by: Vic at November 22, 2011 03:45 PM (YdQQY)
Perry seems to have a lot more support from political junkies in the blogoshere than he does at large. Hope that changes, he's still my guy
Posted by: Max Power at November 22, 2011 11:54 AM (q177U)
Posted by: A. Fufkin at November 22, 2011 11:55 AM (0coon)
you folks are still hoping for that Perry comeback, you guys wont believe its over until he's dropped out it seems
*sighs*
well I guess one "good thing" (extreme sarcasm there) is that after days w/o them the Romneybots will show up to tell us how Perry is the devil and Romney is the savior
perticularly a guy polishing nikes in Texas for Romney 
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 11:55 AM (yAor6)
I don't know. I don't want to see the DREAM act resurrected.
Posted by: Ace's liver at November 22, 2011 03:50 PM (1+XRG)
Too late. We're squeezing that shit through the back door bitches.
Posted by: Barack Obama, backdoor man at November 22, 2011 11:56 AM (fYOZx)
Perry seems to have a lot more support from political junkies in the blogoshere than he does at large.
I think that's his entire 7% support
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 11:56 AM (yAor6)
America simply cannot tolerate an attorney general who arms the very criminals he is supposed to protect us from and then refuses to comfort the grieving parents of a slain Border Patrol agent. Nor can we tolerate a president who lacks the courage to take decisive action in restoring justice to the Department of Justice.
It is time for Mr. Holder to go.
Drop the other shoe, Rick! Drop the other shoe!
It is time for Mr. Starts With O & Ends in Bama to go.
Posted by: No Whining at November 22, 2011 11:57 AM (UzjcV)
Not "ill-conceived." Death and destruction was part of the plan. It did what it was supposed to do and accomplished the goal except for a botched cover-up (which isn't going as planned) because a dedicated agent became a whistle-blower.
I'm glad Perry's making this charge but he's still holding back a bit. I understand hedging just a bit now, but there's room for even more pointed charges that I hope he, among others, will take. Hell, bring up DoJ stonewalling and personnel shifting.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 22, 2011 11:57 AM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at November 22, 2011 11:57 AM (QKKT0)
Every Republican branded as dumb by the media was at least as smart as Obama or Gore; most were more intelligent. You'll never get your wish because the media will brand ANY conservative as dumb. If you think Gingrich or Romney is immune to that, wait until one of them (perhaps) becomes the nominee. All it takes is one slip of the tongue to be endlessly repeated and mocked on SNL and Letterman.
Posted by: Ken Begg at November 22, 2011 11:58 AM (0pNdu)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 03:56 PM (i6RpT)
yep and by spring 2013 the 2016 campaign for Prez will begin!
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 11:58 AM (yAor6)
I hope it is Perry and Romney as the last men standing.. I would like to see them duke it out.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 22, 2011 12:00 PM (f9c2L)
Soothie's Ratings pre 11/22 debate
Knüte: Sell
Mitt: Neutral/Hold
Perry: Buy
Cain: Strong Sell
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 22, 2011 03:58 PM (sqkOB)
We're running a freakin' Scandi now? We are so lutefisk boned!
Posted by: No Whining at November 22, 2011 12:00 PM (UzjcV)
Now, now, Newt has disowned it, but Romney still gives it tacit approval thru defense of romneycare. If you don't allow Newt to take that back, then Perry can't take back the heartless comment.
That said, I like what Perry has been doing lately, not playing the standard take no positions campaigning of Romney or as Obama did for years up to his election.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2011 12:01 PM (JYheX)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 22, 2011 04:00 PM (f9c2L)
yeah keep wishing folks
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:01 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 12:01 PM (Xm1aB)
Personally, I think that if Perry is opposed to subsidizing mass murder on the border by withholding the weapons and means of drug gang operation, well, he is just heartless.
(no, he ain't never gonna live that down)
Posted by: maddogg at November 22, 2011 12:01 PM (OlN4e)
I cannot grasp why some on the Right cannot grasp that concept. State's Rights really have nothing to do with it as that was a bullet point rebuttal brought belatedly to the argument to assuage the Tea Party.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 22, 2011 12:02 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 12:02 PM (nj1bB)
What I don't understand is why Congress, BOTH sides of the aisle... are not all over this.
THEY pass the law, which is supposed to be enforced. If the Justice Dept. can pick and choose which laws they enforce, they are taking away Congress's Power.
Its interesting that the Government seems to decide Which laws it will enforce... yet we Citizens are expected to follow EVERY law...
Which prooves who is the Noble, and who the Peasent... as in the Middle Ages there was High Law, for the Nobles, and Common Law, for the rest.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2011 12:02 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: Vic at November 22, 2011 03:45 PM (YdQQY)
Yessir, I'm puttin' this race away.
Posted by: Rickus Perrius at November 22, 2011 12:02 PM (w3vHi)
Figures.
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 04:01 PM (Xm1aB)
LINK ASAP if you can get it
there's no way I can believe that until I see it with my own eyes
I fully expected him to endorse Romney
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:02 PM (yAor6)
you folks are still hoping for that Perry comeback, you guys wont believe its over until he's dropped out it seems
Posted by: AuthorLMendez.........
He's still running ads here in Chicago (might have been Fox News and not area specific, though)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 22, 2011 12:03 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 12:03 PM (Xm1aB)
Are these two and perry the only ones calling for holder's resignation? Have the others even said anything about it?
Posted by: dazed and confused at November 22, 2011 12:04 PM (oZfic)
...and then refuses to comfort the grieving parents of a slain Border Patrol agent.
I wish he'd left this out. You're either making a legal or political case or you're making an emotional one. Don't confuse them.
We haven't heard the last of Perry, but there are problems with his Texas record and we may as well get them out there right away.
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 22, 2011 12:04 PM (puy4B)
Lutefisk are essentially boneless (the bones are limp) after soaking in lye. So it would be hard to get boned with one.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 22, 2011 12:04 PM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: dazed and confused at November 22, 2011 04:04 PM (oZfic)
i'm suprised Hunstman would demand that such a thing
shows what I think about him...
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:05 PM (yAor6)
This guy is solid...not doing him a bit of good, but he's the one guy runnign who would make a good president.
Goddamn stupid ass Republican candidates and the stupid ass GOP for agreeing to debates run by leftwing extremists, and to hell with dumbass voters who are so stupid that they think being a sucessful president mostly involves being slick at debating. Jesus H. Christ in a sidecar, you might as well vote for a guy based on his damn hairstyle.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at November 22, 2011 12:05 PM (haFNK)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 22, 2011 12:05 PM (niZvt)
I wish he'd left this out. You're either making a legal or political case or you're making an emotional one. Don't confuse them.
Posted by: spongeworthy.......
Well, I guess you just don't have a heart...
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 22, 2011 12:05 PM (f9c2L)
I cannot agree with you more, Ace.
I'm a MA denizen, and while it was good to have Romney as governor at least when the alternatives were considered, he was distinctly lacking in courage where taking on bloat and malfeasance in state government was concerned. Yes, he did take down the (absolutely appalling) MA Turnpike Authority chief Matt Amorello -- but it was a forcing-out that Romney should have done much, much earlier, instead of waiting for the tragedy (woman motorist killed by falling ceiling-fixture in a MA Turnpike-run tunnel) that made Amorello easy prey.
I mention this as just an example; there's something to be said for deft seizing of political opportunities to do the right thing -- but there's also something to be said for executing an imaginative and pragmatically beneficial common-sense program of public-governance change that is grounded in courage and handled with pluck.
I think we can get the latter with Rick Perry -- good luck trying to cadge it out of Mitt Romney.
Posted by: RamonAllones at November 22, 2011 12:05 PM (ha+6S)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 03:56 PM (i6RpT)
Yeah, but only because the SCOAMF and his regime are in power. The journey to having a repub nominee will be a long one, and I still contend that it will be decided by the delegates at the repub convention. Plenty of time for events to cycle.
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2011 12:05 PM (CpbKk)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 12:05 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 12:06 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: IreneFingIrene at November 22, 2011 12:06 PM (JNqU9)
Posted by: SGT Dan at November 22, 2011 12:06 PM (O0YsD)
Posted by: dazed and confused at November 22, 2011 12:06 PM (oZfic)
Lutefisk are essentially boneless (the bones are limp) after soaking in lye. So it would be hard to get boned with one.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 22, 2011 04:04 PM (tf9Ne)
So their bones might be categorized as... squishy. Which was my culturally obscure point.
Posted by: No Whining at November 22, 2011 12:06 PM (UzjcV)
But still, as nice as that is (and it is pretty sweet, I admit), I think I'd rather have the issues.
Ace you're right on. Very good analysis on Gingrich and Romney. Pretty much says it for me. There's only one candidate with the goods and the gonads to take it to Obama no holds barred. And that's the luscious Rick Perry, coyote killer extraordinaire ...
Posted by: The Ghost of Kim Novak Dedicated Perrywinkle at November 22, 2011 12:07 PM (8DdAv)
It seems he's too busy constantly fidgeting to string three words together to express a clear concept. And when it comes to questions about foreign policy, he's maybe - maybe - one notch above Cain on the "I thought foreign affairs involve hawt Scandi blondes scale of knowledge.
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 22, 2011 04:05 PM (niZvt)
well to be fair Perry has been getting more articulate and better as the debates go and the more media he does. It seems his waken up a good bit since his first couple debates but it seems that it's too little, too late.
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:07 PM (yAor6)
He will subsequently be the recipient of one of those late-night Jan 19th pardons he was so good at crafting under Clinton, courtesy of the departing Obama regime.
Deal is already done.
Posted by: Joe Mama at November 22, 2011 12:07 PM (CYoZS)
Well podner, by that logic, if you nominate me then none of you can talk about anything at all.
'Cause I sure can't.
Hey, look! Squirrel!
Posted by: Prick Rarey at November 22, 2011 12:08 PM (w3vHi)
IMO Newt is a Progresive. He is now advocting for smaller Government, but has always advocated for a Government which can tell us what to do, and how to live.
He just wants to be the one in charge of the 'tellin'...
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 22, 2011 12:08 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 12:08 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: palerider at November 22, 2011 12:08 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 12:09 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: No Whining at November 22, 2011 04:06 PM (UzjcV)
Hmmmm... is that what she said?
Posted by: Bad Joke Dept. at November 22, 2011 12:09 PM (NtXW4)
You mean we haven't already gotten Perry's Texas-record-problems out there and hashed and rehashed them?
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 04:05 PM (Xm1aB)
TARDISIL! (lather, rinse, repeat)
Posted by: No Whining at November 22, 2011 12:09 PM (UzjcV)
Add to it all Michelle Malkin who was in a frenzy over the-
Gardasil-a mandate-one that is crushing our very freedoms...the humanity!!!1
what isn't Malkin in a frenzy over?
i'm not a fan...
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:10 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: © Sponge at November 22, 2011 12:10 PM (UK9cE)
he can take it back, but Obama's going to mention it a few times, don't you think?
Which, to me, would give both of them a great excuse to remind that stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure that they did, indeed, retract their statements and have apologized to America. Especially Perry.
Hopefully by shoving it up his anal cavity at every opportunity.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 22, 2011 12:10 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 12:10 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Vic at November 22, 2011 12:11 PM (YdQQY)
Let's face it, Obama's not particularly smart
I think you are making progress, Ace, from "just asking questions" to finding the unavoidable answers.
Posted by: Randy M at November 22, 2011 12:11 PM (vI8R6)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 12:12 PM (rJVPU)
I saw somewhere today that Jeb Bush is endorsing Huntsman.
Figures.
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 04:01 PM (Xm1aB)
It was Jeb Bush, Jr
Posted by: Ms Choksondik, hoping for a Rick Perry miracle at November 22, 2011 12:12 PM (fYOZx)
Posted by: Vic at November 22, 2011 04:11 PM (YdQQY)
more proof of Vic's election strategy gravitas!/sarc
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:12 PM (yAor6)
If you don't allow Newt to take that back, then Perry can't take back the heartless comment.
I think this is how the guy keps getting elected--he makes emotional appeals to the half of the electorate that doesn't think but does vote. Not a bad plan.
I've said before that the reason I condemned Perry for a statement I agree with, basically, on immigration is why he made it. I always thought he was playing up to bleeding heart political insiders and self-considered elitists. But it may be he's playing to women here.
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 22, 2011 12:13 PM (puy4B)
The problem with Newt is he's had a lot of ideas over the years, some of them conservative, some very much not conservative. Hey, I'm all for having idea guys around, but I don't want a president who'll wake up one day and decide every state name should begin with "#".
Posted by: Ace's liver at November 22, 2011 12:13 PM (1+XRG)
shows what I think about him...
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 04:05 PMI mentioned this in Headline Comments today: Warren Huntsman is running some powerful ads here in MA right now, presumably because NH gets most of it TV from here. The ads slap Mutt Romney and Osama Obama, and tout whatever record Ernie Huntsman may have.
If I thought they were indicative of the man, I might give Lloyd Huntsman a look. As it is, I put him behind Perry -- who should be the choice, IMO -- and Cain.
The Mutt and The Newt are both slimy, say-anything POSes, if you ask me. Neither one would make a good antidote to the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure, and that's what we need most.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 22, 2011 12:13 PM (HkOAc)
I predicted that this election would be issues-centered and Perry has laid them out better than anyone else has so far.
Somebody needs to wake this country out of its stupor.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 22, 2011 12:13 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 12:13 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 22, 2011 04:04 PM (tf9Ne)
Space docking!!!!
Posted by: © Sponge at November 22, 2011 12:14 PM (UK9cE)
I swore I would support the first GOP primary candidate who was not Ron Paul and who publicly addressed Fast & Furious. Well, I'm committed now--which kinda sorta sucks, in a way, because now I'll actually have to do things, like send money to his campaign, knock on doors and make phone calls before the primary in my state.
Are Perry's chances good? No, but I was a Cubs fan for years. I know what heartache feels like. But please God no more awkward pauses on national television while he tries to come up with a coherent response to a straightforward policy question.
Posted by: troyriser at November 22, 2011 12:14 PM (vtiE6)
Yeah, I know, the polls show him out of it. But I think that's partly due to preference falsification, as people don't support him because they guess that most other people don't support him.
I think so too, Ace. ....And pollsters get the majority of their income from....where? From the media and establishment pols, don't they? The people who would least like to see reforms happen in Washington.
I gotta admit I'd really like a candidate whom the media cannot brand "dumb."
Yeah, I know they will try to do that....but if Perry is so dumb, then how come he was able to do so many smart things in Texas that resulted in a boom in the economy there. ....Mr. Harvard law degree Obama, is supposed to be sooo smart and yet everything he's done so far has hurt the economy.
I'm still rooting for Perry.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at November 22, 2011 12:14 PM (+oUuS)
Posted by: Bob Saget at November 22, 2011 12:15 PM (SDkq3)
I predicted that this election would be issues-centered and Perry has laid them out better than anyone else has so far.
*looks at polls*
what are you smoking because I sure want some of it!
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:15 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 12:16 PM (Xm1aB)
You'll never get one. Anybody exposed to round-the-clock scrutiny will eventually say something dumb, no matter how smart they are.
Posted by: Ace's liver at November 22, 2011 12:16 PM (1+XRG)
Posted by: joeindc44 at November 22, 2011 12:16 PM (QxSug)
Well, Obama is going to mention all kinds of things about whoever the candidate is, many won't even be true. So who will be the best to articulate our side is going to be the predominate thing. In any event, most of us are ABR early and ABO later.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2011 12:16 PM (JYheX)
Obama is a AA baby for Harvard and is dumber than a creosote post. He has an election team though and plenty of communist money behind him.
Posted by: Vic at November 22, 2011 12:16 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: No Whining at November 22, 2011 12:16 PM (UzjcV)
And this is kind of a problem isn't it? Sigh.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 22, 2011 12:16 PM (pLTLS)
But please God no more awkward pauses on national television while he tries to come up with a coherent response to a straightforward policy question.
bro, I can't promise stuff like that
Posted by: God, Voting Republican In 2012 at November 22, 2011 12:17 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at November 22, 2011 12:17 PM (qndXR)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 12:17 PM (i6RpT)
That's OK. Just as long as he doesn't try to pretend that he doesn't have a dog in this hunt. (Not saying he ever did. Just that he doesn't. Then he'd just be an mbm blogger).
Hey. At this point I wouldn't mind seeing him come back. His apology for the "heart" comment goes down well with me as that's where he lost me. Some of the other stuff never bothered me much.
Yea Perry!
Now we know he can adapt and overcome but can he win?
Posted by: Fight the nattering nabobs of negativism at November 22, 2011 12:17 PM (xqpQL)
I can only recommend "watch his interviews" so many times. I linked one above.
I watched it last night. He was okay, nothing more. He is likeable, an underrated quality. Almost can't be overrated.
Perry's Texas record looks good, and the knocks on "Texas jobs" are largely bullshit. But the state has a huge deficit, really indefensible as I have not seen it defended so far.
He really needs to get out in front of that as soon as he can afford to.
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 22, 2011 12:17 PM (puy4B)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 12:18 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2011 04:17 PM (CpbKk)
lucky, it's 3.30-3.50 in parts of FL
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:18 PM (yAor6)
You got it, mister. Everything that makes me look halfway lucid is golden, and everything that makes me look like a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure is illegitimate. 'Cause when I trip over my own dick and forget my own policy proposals and have that glassy expression in my eyes that makes me look like somebody who just dropped down here from planet Neptune, that's phony.
Also phony are all them polls showing me in single digits in South Carolina, that state I keep hearin' is do-or-die for any GOP candidate. Media polls. Don't trust 'em. In reality I'm tearin' this race up.
Spare a few bucks?
Posted by: Prick Rarey at November 22, 2011 12:19 PM (+IQVP)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 12:19 PM (nj1bB)
It was Jeb Bush, Jr
Posted by: Ms Choksondik, hoping for a Rick Perry miracle at November 22, 2011 04:12 PM (fYOZx)
And once I, throw my jinormous, ta-tas behind Hunts Ketchup, er, Huntsman, he'll be at, the head of a Young Conservatives', Electoral Juggernaut!
Posted by: Meggers McCans at November 22, 2011 12:19 PM (UzjcV)
Is there any State in the country that doesn't have a huge deficit? We were running one here BEFORE 2008 and the great collapse.
Posted by: Vic at November 22, 2011 12:19 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: stace at November 22, 2011 12:20 PM (LnEdR)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 12:20 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 12:21 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: Fight the nattering nabobs of negativism at November 22, 2011 12:21 PM (xqpQL)
I don't think that's really true. You really can't call Gingrich or Romney dumb without looking dumb yourself, and very hackish.
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 04:19 PM (nj1bB)
You could have said the same thing about Quayle before 1998.
Posted by: Ace's liver at November 22, 2011 12:21 PM (1+XRG)
I think we need to wait and see.. and let people take a second look at him.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 22, 2011 12:22 PM (f9c2L)
I would like to say
This article has been artifically sweetened. Well done, Ace. I hope Perry sees fit to hire you!
(btw, I'd be thrilled to vote for Perry and I love Ace. But this is class-A rumpswabbery. Just saying.)
without sounding catty and mean. But I can't think of a way to do it. Please don't take it as a personal attack. I kind of mean it as a compliment.
Posted by: Truman North at November 22, 2011 12:22 PM (I2LwF)
There is a persistent narrative that if it were not for Perry's disastrous debate performances, he would be a virtually flawless and ideal candidate with zilch baggage.
This narrative would of course be untrue.
The Trans Texas Corridor and at the very least the appearance of corporate cronyism are issues that Rick Perry has not been challenged with, I'm assuming because it hasn't been necessary for his opponents to use them against him.
It's all almost certainly moot at this point. Perry's support has hovered around ten percent for weeks now. It's pretty strident and determined support, but it's not gaining any ground. It appears that a majority of the Republican electorate has determined that he isn't ready for primetime.
It's between Romney & Gingrich now.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 22, 2011 12:22 PM (b68Df)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at November 22, 2011 12:22 PM (B0ebt)
Posted by: maddogg at November 22, 2011 12:22 PM (OlN4e)
I predicted that this election would be issues-centered and Perry has laid them out better than anyone else has so far.
Somebody needs to wake this country out of its stupor.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 22, 2011 04:13 PM (d0Tfm)
Working on it.
Posted by: Jihadi Event Committee at November 22, 2011 12:22 PM (CpbKk)
Posted by: Vic at November 22, 2011 04:19 PM (YdQQY)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:22 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Bob Saget at November 22, 2011 04:15 PM (SDkq3)
It's Scandi, you smother it in melted butter, it's authentic working class! What's not to like?
Posted by: 'Chelle - order me up another round of butter shooters - O'Barkin'Mad at November 22, 2011 12:22 PM (UzjcV)
Posted by: stace at November 22, 2011 12:23 PM (LnEdR)
it is not possible for Gingrich to go back in time and refuse to consult with Freddie Mac (consult? okay), and it is not possible for Romney to go back in time and undo RomneyCare.
Is it possible for then-Democrat Perry to go back in time and unsupport Al Gore as a Republican?
Posted by: Way Back Machine at November 22, 2011 12:23 PM (WaeGZ)
I'm leaning back towards Perry. I jumped on the Cain bandwagon because I liked the idea of a Conservative non-politician businessman type running the show and although I believe Cain is what he says he is, he or his handler's are, well, not handling it well.
Perry also seems to be a pretty solid Conservative. Yes, I know there is immigration issues and no, I don't give a shit that he doesn't speak very well. Those are very minor points with me.
Posted by: ErikW at November 22, 2011 12:24 PM (vH+hB)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 22, 2011 12:24 PM (pLTLS)
There is a persistent narrative that if it were not for Perry's disastrous debate performances, he would be a virtually flawless and ideal candidate with zilch baggage.
This narrative would of course be untrue.
ummm, bs. It's Perry's debate perfomances where all his gaffes have happened.
It's all almost certainly moot at this point. Perry's support has hovered around ten percent for weeks now. It's pretty strident and determined support, but it's not gaining any ground. It appears that a majority of the Republican electorate has determined that he isn't ready for primetime.
It's between Romney & Gingrich now.
yes it's Romney or Newt now, and btw it's not 10%...it's 7%
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:25 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: dagny at November 22, 2011 12:25 PM (NqIqx)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 12:25 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Barney Frank at November 22, 2011 12:25 PM (B0ebt)
Posted by: PugBoo TeaPug Jihadist Level Two Escroter at November 22, 2011 12:25 PM (20jXV)
It's between Romney & Gingrich now.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 22, 2011 04:22 PMSo you're saying it's time to step back and let the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure cruise to a second term?
Jeebus, what a pair of polished turds you're picking from!
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 22, 2011 12:25 PM (HkOAc)
Posted by: stace at November 22, 2011 12:26 PM (LnEdR)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 12:26 PM (i6RpT)
It's not the size of the man in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the man. He's a fighter.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 22, 2011 12:26 PM (ENKCw)
Posted by: ejo at November 22, 2011 12:26 PM (qI9Eb)
Posted by: dagny at November 22, 2011 12:26 PM (NqIqx)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 12:26 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: a box of rocks at November 22, 2011 12:27 PM (2jQGY)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 22, 2011 12:27 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 04:26 PM (i6RpT)
+1
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:27 PM (yAor6)
Don't taunt them. I've seen them try to articulate some reasons and it's painful to watch.
Posted by: Bob Saget at November 22, 2011 12:27 PM (SDkq3)
Perry didn’t call for “sudden and relentless reform”, did he?
Posted by: jwest at November 22, 2011 12:28 PM (qeYI9)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 22, 2011 04:24 PM
Pretty hard to pick one of The Mutt's policies to tout, since he'll change 'em at the drop of a potential vote.
I think the Romneybots are being seduced by that natty coiffure, just as some of the Palinoids had their vision affected by her well-formed...assets.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 22, 2011 12:28 PM (HkOAc)
Perry is sorry that he Made the heartless remark in a venue where it was impossible to explain. The truth is that our immigration polices are every bit as fucked up and stupid as the policies, rules, regulations and bloody bureaucratic government agency hoops that government has ever created.
Posted by: Pecos, All Perry, all the time at November 22, 2011 12:28 PM (2Gb0y)
What a wonderful change of pace for the Republican to be demonstrably more intelligent than his Democratic opponent.
WHAT?
What lib tool is posting under Ace's nick? Frum is that you?
Posted by: dagny at November 22, 2011 12:28 PM (NqIqx)
Posted by: The Dude at November 22, 2011 12:28 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: Miss'80s at November 22, 2011 12:28 PM (d6QMz)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 04:26 PM (Xm1aB)
what polls are you people watching? Real Clear Politics clearly shows he's dropped down to a new low of 7% in the last week, what right moves do you guys see that the rest of the GOP primary voters dont see?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:29 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 12:29 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: twoslaps at November 22, 2011 12:29 PM (S51NE)
Jeebus, what a pair of polished turds you're picking from!
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 22, 2011 04:25 PM (HkOAc)
Who do you suggest otherwise, and why?
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 22, 2011 12:30 PM (b68Df)
Is it possible for then-Democrat Perry to go back in time and unsupport Al Gore as a Republican?
Posted by: Way Back Machine at November 22, 2011 04:23 PM (WaeGZ)
Hmmm.... how did that go?
“If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”
Someone smart said it....
Posted by: Winston Churchill at November 22, 2011 12:30 PM (NtXW4)
Because this is all I can get out of them. Pretty pathetic.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 22, 2011 04:24 PM
*sorry couldn't change the italics
the only reason I see to support Romney at all right now is that he polls the best VS Obama, other then that? it gets hard since he's flip-flopping all the time
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:30 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 12:30 PM (Xm1aB)
it is not possible for Gingrich to go back in time and refuse to consult with Freddie Mac (consult? okay), and it is not possible for Romney to go back in time and undo RomneyCare.
Is it possible for then-Democrat Perry to go back in time and unsupport Al Gore as a Republican?
Posted by: Way Back Machine at November 22, 2011 04:23 PM (WaeGZ)
I got this. And that's why I'm your best choice for president.
Posted by: Rick McPerry at November 22, 2011 12:31 PM (+IQVP)
Ditto. I'd happily vote for Gingrich if he were the nominee, and I'd reluctantly vote for Gingrich in the primary if he was the not-Romney around whom most conservatives were coalescing. (I don't want to see the conservative vote split in the primary, paving the way for Mittens.) But if it were my choice alone and I had to pick from the existing crop, I'd go with Perry.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at November 22, 2011 12:31 PM (QKKT0)
You know, this is a really heartening thought:
Nobody here, at any point, has seriously considered or advocated for Ron Paul.
Ron Paul. Not here, he's not.
Posted by: Truman North at November 22, 2011 12:31 PM (I2LwF)
Dennis Miller has been the only tv personality that I have seen that has said OdipO is not too bright.
Otherwise, I think its a throw away line for many so they don't get called racist.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 22, 2011 12:31 PM (JYheX)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:32 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: dagny at November 22, 2011 12:32 PM (NqIqx)
You've obviously never had that dorsal fin pierce your hand.
All the f*cking way through.
Posted by: jwb7605 at November 22, 2011 12:33 PM (+KHIt)
ummm, bs. It's Perry's debate perfomances where all his gaffes have happened.
I'm not merely referring to "gaffes". There are things in his record that he hasn't been challenged on because it hasn't been necessary for his opponents to do so.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 22, 2011 12:33 PM (b68Df)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 12:33 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: dagny at November 22, 2011 04:32 PM (NqIqx)
THIS, the acusser crap was bs but the way he handled it screamed "election loser"
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:34 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 04:33 PM (rJVPU)
yet he polls the best VS Obama, I call bs
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:34 PM (yAor6)
I'd also like to have that tiny little apparently-inconsequential point that Perry's Texas has created half the country's jobs in the past two years. I sort of think the election will be fought and won on that issue. And not so much on anything else.
"Eighty percent of the net new jobs created in the state of Texas since 2009 went to the foreign-born. Today, the FedÂ’s pushing down interest rates in hopes of igniting economic growth is close to treason, according to Governor Rick Perry, coyly seconded by The Wall Street Journal. In 2000, the same policy qualified Alan Greenspan as the 'greatest central banker in the history of the world,' according to PerryÂ’s mentor, Senator Phil Gramm."
Perry Op-Ed: Eric Holder Must Resign
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, an extremely gross miscarriage of justice via Perry's judicial appointment. Perry has not asked for Ken Anderson to resign. The non-apology that Judge Anderson issued accepted no responsibility or blame for having prosecuted and earned the conviction of an innocent man while DA, for ignoring/withholding DNA evidence and the son's testimony that proved the man's innocence and would have allowed him to raise his son rather than spend 20 years in prison for not murdering his wife, convicted on the prosecutor's claim the murder motive was that the wife denied her husband sex on his birthday.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mom Feared at November 22, 2011 12:35 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 12:35 PM (i6RpT)
I'm not merely referring to "gaffes". There are things in his record that he hasn't been challenged on because it hasn't been necessary for his opponents to do so.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 22, 2011 04:33 PM (b68Df)
ha! the Romney supporter wants to go off about someone's record, that's gold
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:35 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 12:35 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 04:35 PM (i6RpT)
CNN, maybe one more Perry gaffe will finally open some eyes
...ah shit who am I kidding...
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:36 PM (yAor6)
Matthews seeming questions of Obama's motives?
What's next? Some old frat photos of him snorting coke and f'n white women at Harvard Law?
What's their motive for the release? Pre-emption? Redemption? or Exemption?
Who are They?
Inquiring minds want to know. This stuff doesn't just magically happen. (well except for the Climategate 1.0 and 2.0 emails).
Posted by: Fight the nattering nabobs of negativism at November 22, 2011 12:36 PM (xqpQL)
Sure we can talk about it. But will also have to talk about what a whore Gingrich was to take their money.
But it's still a far cry from accepting money as private citizen/former official to advise your patron and try to influence government, to taking money as a current government official, sworn to uphold the interests of the general public, and then using the raw power of government to repay your patrons and screw the citizenry you've sworn to serve.
Posted by: Arms Merchant at November 22, 2011 12:37 PM (+XVQe)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 12:37 PM (rJVPU)
All the f*cking way through.
Posted by: jwb7605 at November 22, 2011 04:33 PM (+KHIt)
Yup. It's the "right of passage" for every catfisherman.
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2011 12:37 PM (CpbKk)
where's polynikes to call me a troll and behmoan the fact I wont get behind his boy?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:37 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 04:37 PM (rJVPU)
*facepalm*
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:38 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: laceyunderalls
.................
Oh hogwash..
You're just not listening..
Yes, he's been a flip flopper.. but if you look at his current policy platform, it's pretty solid.
Other than that, Romney is a known item. We know he will do well against Obama in a debate.
Obama's record makes it almost easy for any GOP candidate who can stand toe-to-toe with him in a debate to defeat him.
Every other GOP candidate has been an unknown until they get well into the campaign.. then we've seen them drop off for one reason or another.
I like Perry a lot.. but whether he can stick it to Obama is still unknown.
I want to win next year.. period.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 22, 2011 12:38 PM (f9c2L)
Posted by: doug at November 22, 2011 12:38 PM (gUGI6)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 04:26 PM (i6RpT)
Perhaps but I'd rather stand for principle than hold my nose. Sorry but I can't support a RINO.
Posted by: ErikW at November 22, 2011 12:39 PM (vH+hB)
Some old frat photos of him snorting coke and f'n white women at Harvard Law?
1. Marxists don't join Frats 2. fucking women? Are you serious?
Posted by: dagny at November 22, 2011 12:39 PM (NqIqx)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 12:39 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 12:39 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 12:39 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Havedash at November 22, 2011 12:40 PM (sFD5n)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 12:40 PM (nj1bB)
Perhaps but I'd rather stand for principle than hold my nose. Sorry but I can't support a RINO.
Posted by: ErikW at November 22, 2011 04:39 PM (vH+hB)
*facepalm*
*sighs*
and this is how we'll end up servants to the state more and more
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:40 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: dagny at November 22, 2011 12:40 PM (NqIqx)
You're a Romney supporter-
explain to me how we get around RomneyCare?
How we ignore the stagnating effect on the economy that ObamaCare has had?
How most of the Republican base doesn't end up looking like a pack of fools for protesting in Washington DC-not only the passage of ObamaCare but the way in which it was passed? Actually I'm with Team Gingrich now, though Romney is running a close second. Should Romney be the nominee, the response to the healthcare issue in the most basic sense is that his Massachussetts plan was allowed by the Tenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, and their own state Constitution. Additionally, it was not designed to be used as a Federal plan, nor did Romney ever advocate such a system be imposed on all the states.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 22, 2011 12:41 PM (b68Df)
Posted by: Yip in Texas at November 22, 2011 12:41 PM (FLFli)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 04:39 PM (i6RpT)
lol I believe it will stay on TV
Rush reported Blitzer has been trying to prepare for w/e beatdown Newt has for him tonight...
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:41 PM (yAor6)
He cannot win Iowa, Big Corn is too strong, so I'm pretty much disregarding that. Newt might take NH, to make things interesting, and Cain may still take SC. Florida is starting to loom gigantic.
I still say Perry just has to avoid becoming a fringe candidate before the other fringe candidates drop out.
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at November 22, 2011 12:42 PM (GTbGH)
and this is how we'll end up servants to the state more and more
Yeah, the "principle" they stand on is to elect the farthest leftist democrat. They are full of shit and worse than any liberal POS.
Posted by: dagny at November 22, 2011 12:42 PM (NqIqx)
Actually I'm with Team Gingrich now, though Romney is running a close second.
HOLY SHIT!!!!
a Romneybot flips!
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:42 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 12:42 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 12:42 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mom Feared at November 22, 2011 12:43 PM (lpWVn)
What's next? Some old frat photos of him snorting coke and f'n white women at Harvard Law?
What's their motive for the release? Pre-emption? Redemption? or Exemption?
Who are They?
Inquiring minds want to know. This stuff doesn't just magically happen. (well except for the Climategate 1.0 and 2.0 emails).
Posted by: Fight the nattering nabobs of negativism at November 22, 2011 04:36 PM (xqpQL)
Ummmm, Her Thighness warming up in the bullpen?
Posted by: Havedash at November 22, 2011 12:43 PM (sFD5n)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:43 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 12:43 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 22, 2011 12:43 PM (puy4B)
and this is how we'll end up servants to the state more and more
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 04:40 PM (yAor6)
So I'm guessing you're calling me stupid?
It's fine if you are, just as long as I know where we stand.
Posted by: ErikW at November 22, 2011 12:43 PM (vH+hB)
Posted by: twoslaps at November 22, 2011 12:43 PM (S51NE)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 12:44 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: dazed and confused at November 22, 2011 12:44 PM (oZfic)
Some old frat photos of him snorting coke and f'n white women at Harvard Law?
1. Marxists don't join Frats 2. fucking women? Are you serious?
Posted by: dagny at November 22, 2011 04:39 PM (NqIqx)
The only pics I've seen of the SCOAMF in his college years was the snapshot of him and his little friend in a sparsely furnished living room. It had ghey smeared all over it.
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2011 12:44 PM (CpbKk)
IÂ’ll vote for whoever the Republican nominee is, but in the primaries IÂ’ll go with Gary Johnson.
My real hope is that the serious players convince Marco Rubio that he could unify the right by jumping in late.
Posted by: jwest at November 22, 2011 12:44 PM (qeYI9)
"Explain to me how we get around RomneyCare?"
Dude....this is easy and you should already know this.
#1.) Romney's original plan for the legislation was modified before it was passed by an overwhlemingly Leftist State Congress.
#2.) Romney veto'ed those changes
#3.) Romney's veto's were overridden by the same overwhleming Leftist State Congress
#4.) Romney was a governor of a Leftists State. The people of the state demanded a State run Health Care System. Romney offered his plan, but that plan was never implemented, only certian aspects of it that both sides agreed upon made it through.
#5.) There is no sense in being upset that Romney was associated with a State Government run Health Care Plan, because the people of that State demanded it, and if he wasn't there, it would have been somebody else anyway. He was voted out shortly afterwards. That is the point of being a leader of a State, when they make demands, it is your responsiblity to see them thru, even if you Ideologically disagree, not saying Romeny does disagree, but placing the blame and calling it RomneyCare is childish at best. I believe Romney doesn't through Mass. under the bus for what happend, because he is the adult in the room, and I feel that is a good sign!
Posted by: Spicoli at November 22, 2011 12:45 PM (JMsOK)
So I'm guessing you're calling me stupid?
It's fine if you are, just as long as I know where we stand.
Posted by: ErikW at November 22, 2011 04:43 PM (vH+hB)
I dont know you as a person but when it comes to political strategies to advance the conservative/liberterian cause, yes I am
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:45 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Throat Wobbler Mangrove at November 22, 2011 12:45 PM (ic4Xf)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 12:45 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 12:46 PM (rJVPU)
Wrongful conviction and personal ruination by associates of Rick Perry?
No way.
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 22, 2011 12:46 PM (+IQVP)
I'm not asking you to support anyone, just pointing out what I think is a weakness in Perry, unfortunetally.
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 22, 2011 04:43 PM (i6RpT)
Sure, I understand that. All of the candidates have flaws and weaknesses to one degree or another. I just happen to think that Perry has the strongest character of the bunch.
Posted by: ErikW at November 22, 2011 12:46 PM (vH+hB)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 12:46 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: dazed and confused at November 22, 2011 04:44 PM (oZfic)
in the OLD days primaries were merely reccomendations by a party's base beforethe convention when the nominee was chosen by party bosses. Technically the GOP can ignore the primaries and chose someone else at the convention. Of course that's all as fantasy as the Electoral College ignoring the results of the prez election...
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:47 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: dagny at November 22, 2011 12:47 PM (NqIqx)
My real hope is that the serious players convince Marco Rubio that he could unify the right by jumping in late.
Posted by: jwest at November 22, 2011 04:44 PM (qeYI9)
You know that old expression about wishes in one hand and shit in the other?
Well..........
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2011 12:47 PM (CpbKk)
I dont know you as a person but when it comes to political strategies to advance the conservative/liberterian cause, yes I am
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 04:45 PM (yAor6)
So be it, then.
Posted by: ErikW at November 22, 2011 12:47 PM (vH+hB)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 12:47 PM (rJVPU)
I hear that. And I will wear the Romney pom-poms, should it come down to that.
*Groans in perversion*
Posted by: A Pervert Somewhere at November 22, 2011 12:48 PM (yAor6)
Sarah Palin Got Scolded by Roger Ailes for Not Announcing Her Non-Candidacy on Fox News
By Gabriel Sherman, NYmag.com
A Palin adviser told me that she is planning to make an endorsement for a candidate in 2012. Palin, being Palin, is keeping it tightly held. "I have an idea of who it is," the adviser said, "but I'm not telling." What's clear is that Palin would be smart to make that announcement on Fox News.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mom Feared at November 22, 2011 12:49 PM (lpWVn)
@221
Ace,
Cmon man....your missing the overall point. It was his job to see it thru. That is the job of the being the Governor. It doesn't matter whether Romeny is a closet Government Run Health Care supporter...The people demanded it, and if he didn't put his two cents in, they would have either booted him, or just waited till he was gone.
Posted by: Spicoli at November 22, 2011 12:49 PM (JMsOK)
But he still won't denounce it. It's the strangest thing I've seen in five decades of politics. We could have easily walked it back two or three years ago and I would be finding him much more palatable now. But no. He's doubled down instead.
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at November 22, 2011 12:49 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 12:49 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 04:47 PM (rJVPU)
Thank God i'm not the only one who notices that...
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:50 PM (yAor6)
He's likely wearing contacts at his age, since he doesn't wear glasses.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mom Feared at November 22, 2011 12:50 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 22, 2011 12:51 PM (b68Df)
Posted by: That Chicken at November 22, 2011 12:51 PM (gVqQ3)
Although I assume that most will support him if it's him,
What makes you say that? (dusts off McCain nose plugs from last election).
Posted by: Mr. Obvious at November 22, 2011 12:51 PM (WaeGZ)
Ace, you noted in your comment that Romney hasn't suffered from the slings and arrows front-runners usually do and that he has run a near-flawless campaign. I realize that running a strong campaign says less than everything about how you'd run the Executive branch, but it does speak to competence. If it isn't, competence ought to be a huge issue going forward.
Fortunately, Perry has little to apologize for on that count as his Texas record is considered to be a strong one.
Posted by: spongeworthy at November 22, 2011 12:52 PM (puy4B)
New Hampshire is Romney's summer palace- is Newt out polling the Romster in New Hampshire?!
no, but he's doing much better then Cain or Perry where when they were the anti-Romneys. there won't be no Buchanan type upset there, Romney has that primary locked up.
Gingrich leads in IA, SC, possibly close 2nd in FL, and a recent poll showed him winning in PA
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:52 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 12:52 PM (Xm1aB)
Democrats who claim they are for the smart candidate are liars. Democrats will vote for the dirt-dumb Dem over the smart GOP every time. Witness: Trollface Racist Raul Grijalva ("everybody should boycott my district!") over Actual Rocket Scientist Ruth McClung in 2010.
Posted by: Sterling Archer at November 22, 2011 12:53 PM (1H47k)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 12:53 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 04:52 PM (Xm1aB)
actually I think it shows how horrible the anti-Romneys have been
Mike Huckabee must be kicking himself for not jumping in
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:54 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Havedash at November 22, 2011 12:54 PM (sFD5n)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 12:55 PM (rJVPU)
We're already too far down in the swirly white bowl for any "wins" to happen.
Best to hope for is that the newly elected President:
1. repeals or cuts funding for, Obamacare.
2. Voids all of Obama's executive orders
3. Stops the "Justice" dept from further litigation with states that have attempted to control their borders.
4. Implements Border control.
5. Repairs our foreign relations with our allies. Particularly with Israel
6. Puts Pakistan, Afghanistan, AQ, Hamas, PlO, Iran, Syria on notice re: Islamist revolution and terrorism.
7. Submits conservative judges for the Courts.
8. Demands cuts in ALL depts and ALL programs
9. Presents a simple tax reformation plan
10. Doesn't go golfing at any time during first 180 days.
Posted by: Fight the nattering nabobs of negativism at November 22, 2011 12:55 PM (xqpQL)
@230
Toby,
Saying he doubled down is a little strong....but look.....real leaders take responsiblity for their actions. Romney governed a crazy Leftist State....it is what they wanted, I doubt that was what he wanted.
From the beginning the entire plan was proposed as an "experiment." Romney is part of the history, good or bad, it was a first, and from what I can tell Romney did the best he could with the hand he was dealt.
Posted by: Spicoli at November 22, 2011 12:55 PM (JMsOK)
Well, I'm still a Perry fan. I think he's not so good at debates-that-aren't-really-debates, but he seems to have a good mix of "masculine drive" and "Heart". That he can create jobs isn't a small thing. We gotta get Gov't out of the way. I think Perry can do it.
Susan Lee
Posted by: Susan Lee at November 22, 2011 12:56 PM (mkaw0)
I scoff every time a person claims that it's the job of legislators to pass more laws in order to prove they are doing a good job representing their constituents, or that the President must NOT use the veto because it's his job to see legislation signed into law, regardless of good or bad consequences or RESPONSIBLE respect for the Constitution.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mom Feared at November 22, 2011 12:56 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Havedash at November 22, 2011 04:54 PM (sFD5n)
wish Kemp was top of the ticket
Posted by: The Dude at November 22, 2011 12:56 PM (M8yfa)
South Carolina and Florida is going to be huge this year...
particularly Florida.
Jesus guys you're really gonna do this to me down here?!
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:56 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: twoslaps at November 22, 2011 12:56 PM (S51NE)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 04:49 PM (rJVPU)
A brokered convention seems like much higher probability than Perry winning the nomination, so apparently IÂ’m the reasonable one here.
As far as who the candidate would be coming out of that convention, I just stated that Rubio would be my pick. Although Palin would be much more qualified, Rubio could unite the party and generate the enthusiasm needed to bury the democrats.
Posted by: jwest at November 22, 2011 12:57 PM (qeYI9)
wish Kemp was top of the ticket
Posted by: The Dude at November 22, 2011 04:56 PM (M8yfa)
Kemp would have lost in 96
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:57 PM (yAor6)
Kemp would have lost in 96
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 04:57 PM (yAor6)
I know, no one was going to beat Bubba
Posted by: The Dude at November 22, 2011 12:58 PM (M8yfa)
I think Perry would be a good President -- except for that whole explaining himself to America part.
The fact that he sounds like he's doing a bad Bush impression also doesn't help things.
I wish we could combine Perry's policy ideas with Romney's style and tone (ie sedate, midwestern, articulate).
Posted by: Clubber Lang at November 22, 2011 12:58 PM (QcFbt)
A brokered convention seems like much higher probability than Perry winning the nomination, so apparently IÂ’m the reasonable one here.
Ouch!
Although Palin would be much more qualified, Rubio could unite the party and generate the enthusiasm needed to bury the democrats.
and there went that talk of being reasonable
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:58 PM (yAor6)
No, Massachusetts' mandated health care was not the first. Tennessee already made that mistake and withdrew it when bankruptcy of the system resulted along with less quality medical treatments resulting from socialized healthcare. And Britain's shining example's been touted for decades by Teddy Kennedy back since the late 1960s.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mom Feared at November 22, 2011 12:59 PM (lpWVn)
I know, no one was going to beat Bubba
Posted by: The Dude at November 22, 2011 04:58 PM (M8yfa)
Bubba in 92 though should have lost
damn Perot...
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 12:59 PM (yAor6)
The fact that he sounds like he's doing a bad Bush impression also doesn't help things.
I wish we could combine Perry's policy ideas with Romney's style and tone (ie sedate, midwestern, articulate).
Posted by: Clubber Lang at November 22, 2011 04:58 PM (QcFbt)
DITTO
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 01:00 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 01:00 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 01:01 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 01:01 PM (yAor6)
After Gates warning against such (no more Middle East take downs, Libya then : Syria now) being ignored, you'd think a conservative would have noticed not to repeat the Palin facebook no-fly zone "solution" that inevitably presents more problems than it could possibly solve. The Air Force Magazine has issued editorials and articles on the subject, btw.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mom Feared at November 22, 2011 01:03 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Dave at November 22, 2011 05:00 PM (Xm1aB)
very true and he was a subpar prez frankly but he still could have won in 92 had Perot not stuck his nose into seomthing he never cared for in the first place...
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 01:03 PM (yAor6)
Well, George H. didn't help himself by breaking his "No New Taxes" pledge.
What I said was "know new taxes", you ignorant hick!
Posted by: George H. at November 22, 2011 01:04 PM (WaeGZ)
Although I assume that most will support him if it's him, I really think that is an awful lot of antagonism from the base, and it will have some consequences.
Posted by: ace
...........
I won't argue against anything you said too vigorously..
I may disagree with the personality assessment..
But what I really disagree with is this common notion that 75% of the party doesn't want him.
That's not really true. It's more that they will take him, but would prefer someone that grabs them more.. and by that I mean someone that speaks more directly to their qualities they are looking for in a candidate.
My point, however, is that cockroach could beat Obama. All we need is someone who can expertly lay out the facts.. the Obama promises.. the failures.. someone competent.. who looks like a leader and who has lay out sensible ideas to get this economy rolling.
I know Romney can do that, even if I don't like him 100%. I don't know if Perry can.. and I sure know the others can't.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 22, 2011 01:04 PM (f9c2L)
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs;
Energy, Energy, Energy;
Corruption, Corruption, Corruption!
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 22, 2011 01:04 PM (i3+c5)
Posted by: Steve C. at November 22, 2011 01:06 PM (V3oL8)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 01:06 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 22, 2011 01:06 PM (niZvt)
My argument is how you think "the Establishment" would appoint Sarah Palin...that's not going to happen.
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 05:01 PM (rJVPU)
Could someone give me a technical check? On my keyboard, I keep typing “Rubio” and it appears that way on screen when I post the comment. Apparently when it shows on other people’s equipment, the word comes out as “Palin”.
Is anyone else experiencing this glitch?
Posted by: jwest at November 22, 2011 01:07 PM (qeYI9)
Jobs, Jobs, Jobs;
Energy, Energy, Energy;
Corruption, Corruption, Corruption!
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 22, 2011 05:04 PM (i3+c5)
We need more corruption????
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2011 01:07 PM (CpbKk)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 01:07 PM (nj1bB)
The problem I have with the Romeny bashers is this:
#1.) I will vote for Romney in the general, but I don't want him as the Nominee. But.....saying that, I also recognize that in reality, he is probably the only one that can win the general. Gingrich can win, but he must traverse the Swamp Lands first.....and there is a lot of gators in those swamps just waiting for him, and he can't manuver very quickly carring all that luggage.
#2.) It is obvious that we Conservatives are not going to get what we want. So the issue for me really becomes "Boot Obama the Hell out at all cost, and if we Conservatives have to take even a little more medicine to accomplish that...then so be it,"
#3.) Odds! Odds are that Romney has a way better chance of not only beating Obama, but helping the Conservative cause. Of Course, I think Gingrich would be better, but he has a long road to hoe in the general. The Left is pretty pissed off with Obama, and they will give up on the election, unless we put Bachman, Perry, and Gingrich in front of them, when that happends they will run to the polls to ensure an Obama victory regardless of how bad things are. Romney makes them feel warm and fuzzy....that is not a bad thing!
Posted by: Spicoli at November 22, 2011 01:08 PM (JMsOK)
So there's a chance my comments will get promoted. Sweet!
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at November 22, 2011 01:08 PM (GTbGH)
Next time -Allahpundit try google....when you are trying to infer Perry isn't so smart....
Allahpussy ain't the smartest guy on the block
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 01:09 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 01:09 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 01:09 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: dazed and confused at November 22, 2011 01:10 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at November 22, 2011 01:11 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 01:12 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 01:12 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 01:13 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: dazed and confused at November 22, 2011 05:10 PM (oZfic)
282 I smell cat pee.Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at November 22, 2011 05:11 PM (GTbGH)
ah shit, cat lady is here
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans oZfic at November 22, 2011 01:13 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: dazed and confused at November 22, 2011 05:10 PM (oZfic)
They and Them are a bunch of wicked bastards.
Posted by: Soona at November 22, 2011 01:13 PM (CpbKk)
Tasker,
Primary delegates are only committed to cast their first ballot for their candidate. If no one garners enough votes to take the nomination in the first round, the convention is wide open. They could nominate Mickey Fuckin Mouse if thatÂ’s what the deal came down to.
This is politics. There is no rulebook.
Posted by: jwest at November 22, 2011 01:13 PM (qeYI9)
Guess this one was already used:
Herman Cain Says Eric Holder Must Go by Ulstermanon November 3, 2011
Posted by: Rmoney at November 22, 2011 01:13 PM (7MFxV)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 05:13 PM (rJVPU)
hey at least since Townhall took over the blog we don't get stuck with anymore "atheists vs christians" blog posts
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans oZfic at November 22, 2011 01:14 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 01:14 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 01:15 PM (rJVPU)
You could have said the same thing about Quayle before 1998.
Posted by: Ace's liver at November 22, 2011 04:21 PM (1+XRG)
116 Eh... 1988.Posted by: Ace's liver at November 22, 2011 04:22 PM
Eh...potato, potatoe. Whatever
Posted by: J. Biden at November 22, 2011 01:16 PM (ay6+/)
Posted by: tasker at November 22, 2011 01:18 PM (rJVPU)
Perry says same thing weeks - GET OUT THE 72 POINT HEADLINE
Posted by: Rmoney at November 22, 2011 01:18 PM (7MFxV)
I'd rather Holder serve eight more years as general attorney and then get nominated by Obama to the supreme court for the rest of his life than to support this Mexican loving, vaccine pimping, death penalty mongering RINO Perry.
Hell's bells, this latest puff piece by your left-wing commendant of Taxes is nothing but a pony and dog show. We're not talking about real reform here. It would be one thing if RINO Perry starting calling for impeachment. Shit, Holmes, I'm all about impeaching everyone, especially RINOs. But noooo, RINO Perry is too busy giving handouts to Mexicans to support the true and pure conservative patriot call for impeachment of Boehner, McConnell, Bernanke, Snowe and Collins, Specter, Bloomberg and everyone else that needs to get gone.
Wake me up out of my reality coma when a real and true conservative shows up and throws me some real red meat. Until then we're just losing slower and pandering to Mexicans.
Cain-Gingrich-Gingrich-Cain, '12. Put out or shut up!
Posted by: Totally Irrational Political Malcontent at November 22, 2011 01:18 PM (f8XyF)
Looks like Treent Perry made a decision and that alone is the reason for the headline?
Posted by: Rmoney at November 22, 2011 01:21 PM (7MFxV)
I agree. Opposition to me and my policies is racist.
But then I tried to tell you heartless suckers that from the get-go.
Posted by: Rick Perry at November 22, 2011 01:23 PM (+IQVP)
The beauty of Gary Johnson as the nominee would be the inability of the networks to play “The American President” in an endless loop throughout 2012.
(JohnsonÂ’s wife died of cancer a few years ago and heÂ’s living with his girlfriend)
Posted by: jwest at November 22, 2011 01:25 PM (qeYI9)
Posted by: ace at November 22, 2011 04:18 PM (nj1bB)
Okay then. I seem to remember you saying things like "He's above average but not genius" and "let's see his transcripts if he's so smart."
I think 'Obama's not smart' is blunter than you've been.
Posted by: Randy M at November 22, 2011 01:25 PM (vI8R6)
)))'s.First they came for the Atheist and Christian fights . . .
Ed Morrissey got all pissy with me one day when I was bitchin about my comments being moderated. (they don't tell you that do they?)
I hadn't commented in a while so I hadn't had the experience of my comment taking 2 hrs to be listed.
Anyhoo in my rant, I jokingly referred to flouncing since they seemed to be headed into the LGF swamp. Ed got all high and mighty and banned me before I could respond to HIS more childish name calling. (me I didn't name call anyone or use bad language. Believe it or don't)
Well I wasn't commenting there much anyway. Didn't like the reformat don't like Townhall always shoving popup and popdowns and other crap in your face. So no big loss.
Amusing as hell though; got censored because i said I was going to quit due to censorship. No curses, threats of violence or personal attacks. Ed saw fit to attack me when I couldn't respond.
[I know why he didn't want me able to comment back: he'd look like the fool/tool that he was acting like. I think I hit a nerve though. Too bad. He's in too far to start over somewhere else}
Posted by: Fight the nattering nabobs of negativism at November 22, 2011 01:26 PM (xqpQL)
Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at November 22, 2011 01:36 PM (6IV8T)
"Newt is a stupid man's idea of what a smart man sounds like." Paul Krugman on Sunday morning TV this weekend. Yes, maybe he sounds hackerish to us, but this is how the process always starts. I find it difficult to believe that you really think Gingrich or Romney would be immune to the regular piling on process they always employ. Hell, Reagan was tarred as simple minded, and he was probably the smartest President we've had in half a century.
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Posted by: BK at November 22, 2011 01:57 PM (R2Yh0)
http://www.texastribune.org/library/ data/texas-shrinking-state-government/
Posted by: Farmer62 at November 22, 2011 01:59 PM (88tLT)
@88: "Mr. Harvard law degree Obama, is supposed to be sooo smart and yet everything he's done so far has hurt the economy."
Your statement presumes that Obama was actively trying not to hurt the economy. Not the case - he has been very successful at what he's doing, and he's been able to keep at least 40% of the American public sold on the fact that he's: (1) working hard at fixing stuff; (2) had some success in repairing the damage wrought by Bush; (3) to the extent he has been unsuccessful, it is because the Republicans are actively thwarting his brilliant plans; (4) and if the Republicans hadn't been a bunch of obstructionist criminals, life would be perfect.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at November 22, 2011 02:00 PM (jAqTK)
@130: "Virginia has a nice surplus under McDonnell. The libs are in the streets howling and rending their garmets moaning that "education is taking the brunt of the cuts" howl. All this while more businesses move here."
Of course, Virginia also benefits from having all of the new government-employee wealth. Businesses go where the money is.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at November 22, 2011 02:05 PM (jAqTK)
Former Capt in Air Force
Rides Harley
Close friend to Marcus Luttrell
Loves his family and puppies
Very purdy in chaps
Case closed
Posted by: redneck hippie at November 22, 2011 02:09 PM (6dSm9)
I fooled you all. I am really an Obama supporter.
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Posted by: dazed and confused at November 22, 2011 04:44 PM (oZfic)
in the OLD days primaries were merely reccomendations by a party's base beforethe convention when the nominee was chosen by party bosses. Technically the GOP can ignore the primaries and chose someone else at the convention. Of course that's all as fantasy as the Electoral College ignoring the results of the prez election...
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 22, 2011 04:47 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: jem at November 22, 2011 02:28 PM (spEu4)
"Newt is a stupid man's idea of what a smart man sounds like." Paul Krugman on Sunday morning TV this weekend.
Yeah I heard that despicable left wing elitist munchkin say that last Sunday.
Who cares. It's like saying Gale Sayers really wasn't that good of a running back.
For the record, when Bill Clinton was interviewed not too long ago and asked what he thought of Newt, he said "he's a very smart man".
When Christopher Hitchens was asked about Newt Gingrich in an interview he described him as a "smart guy" and noted the occasion he met him. He went on an interview show and all he knew about Newt at the time was that he was a Republican from Georgia, and assumed he would be a dumb yokel. Hitchens said that he walked out of the interview in a daze. He intended that as a compliment.
So by Krugman's logic, both Clinton and Hitchens are stupid men.
Krugman is a smear merchant that is respected by an inner circle of left wing elitists who jerk off to the New York Times. He has no real crediblity.
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192
>>>obligatory Perry puff piece from ace of spades, the only difference
this time is that it takes a jab at Gingrich, the new threat to the chosen one.
Correct. Shall I support your candidate instead? And who might that be? Cain,
I'm guessing?
That wasn't so hard was it?
Posted by: Rmoney at November 22, 2011 05:12 PM (7MFxV)
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Excellent pick! Yeah You!
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That is useful information and its quite easy to come a croper if you are not vigilant.
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