1 But stalwart conservative Morning Joe Scarborough says everything Perry is a joke with every breath! Who to believe?

2 Wait a minute! The prediction is that Perry's tax plan will raise almost $24 trillion for the gubmint in six years?

That's way too friggin' high.

What will pressure the slimeballs in Congress to cut/end their money-pissing ways?

3 The debates are killing him. But after it's all said and done and (hopefully) forgotten... 5th (6th) look at Perry??

4

 

This sounds racist, because it is just too positive.

It can only work if it is not as good as anything our Dear President has done or proposes, or tihnks long and really hard about possibly doing, maybe.

But at first cut, this is obviously racist.

 

5 ...But will there be beer?

6 Posted by: MrScribbler at October 26, 2011 07:35 AM (YjjrR) Here's the rub: the "revenues" raised for the leviathan should be used to pay down the debt and to fund what is only absolutely necessary. It should not (in a real and sane world) be used to justify more spending on more programs for more graft. We need someone who is willing to take an axe to this beast tat is eating us alive.

7 I really hope he finds himself a good debate coach. The more I read about this guy, the more I like him (which is good because I would hate to think I was supporting him just because he is so smoking hot.) Mr Scribbler, one of the things that I find attractive about the Perry plan is this: ...capping federal spending at 18% of our gross domestic product, banning earmarks and future bailouts, and passing a Balanced Budget Amendment to the Constitution...freezes federal civilian hiring and salaries until the budget is balanced....immediate moratorium on pending federal regulations and provides a full audit of all regulations passed since 2008 to determine their need, impact and effect on job creation.

8 ^{But stalwart conservative Morning Joe Scarborough says everything Perry is a joke with every breath! Who to believe?}

Well, one's not currently a politician while the other is. I think it's clear who to believe.

9 There's this super consistent fellow, a real go-getter from the Northeast not named Matt Ramsey but Mitt Romney. You good people should check me, I mean him out. I, er he has a plan too.

10 Lots of effort for little return.

11 This is a loser of a political issue.

12 Like taxes and revenue are what keep people awake at night. Is that a branch rustling against a window, or is something trying to get in and attack you, your family?

When the undead arise, who do you think will have the guts to personally kill the flesh eating hordes? Romney?? If he'll shoot and kill a damn coyote, would Rick Perry hesitate putting lead into the skull of a zombie? I think not.

13 Its the best plan I see better than Ryan or 999 or Mittens 1265 pointer. I hope that now that he has something to talk about at the debates he will do better. I know I suck at party's unless I have a job to do, now his job is to sell that plan. I think his problem before was all he had to sell was Texas, and that doesn't really play well to the rest of the country.

14 Guv, you're from Texas. Tell people your plan for lower gas prices.

15 You are all in the tank for Perry!  How dare you discuss him positively?

16 Make a post about something interesting and juicy such as thedelicious stupidity of Elizabeth Warren.

17 Wow pretty impressive numbers. Has the CBO scored the 999 plan and Romney plan as well?

18 Guv, you're from Texas. Tell people your plan for lower gas prices.

Hasn't it been said? Start telling the world that we are going to be drilling everywhere and building power plants and possibly new refineries and that will drop the prices. It worked for awhile when Bush said it at the end of his term.

19 I can't wait for the primaries to be over and the electoral massacre of Teh Won to commence.

20 We have a mostly partisan taxing problem, but we also have a bipartisan SPENDING problem.  We need to throw a LOT of these entrenched bums out.

At least Perry is talking about a plan to address both.  None of Perry's concepts will ever be placed before the Congress for serious consideration unless the many RINO pocket-lining scum and all Dem corruptocrats are sent packing.

21 17, the Perry plan was scored by a company called John Dunham and Associates.

22 Perry's plan (so far): looks better, the closer you look at it.

Cain's "plan": looks worse, the closer you look at it.

Romney's novella: no one will look at something that damn long.

23 Wait, I thought you had to tax more and collect more revenue to raise GDP? Unless... wait, do we have a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure in the White House?

24 21 Posted by: MDH3 Thx!

25 My energy plan is to drill baby drill Obama's ass out of DC.

26 Romney's novella: no one will look at something that damn long.

Posted by: davidinvirginia at October 26, 2011 08:01 AM (haFNK)

Mr Oromney, can you discuss the meaning of point 57, section A, paragraph 2, subsection iii?

27 AOL-HuffPo now running fluff pieces on Hilary's style. Are they preparing to dump SCOAMF?????

28 Mr Oromney, can you discuss the meaning of point 57, section A, paragraph 2, subsection iii?

You can't possibly hold that section against him.  He changed his position at point 63, Section D, paragraph 4.

29 Nice chicken, honey!

30

 

We don't have a spending problem.

We have a Commie problem.

 

31 My problem with this plan is that it doesn't contribute to the destruction of America.

32 We need someone who is willing to take an axe to this beast tat is eating us alive. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 26, 2011 07:40 AM

I'm not criticizing Perry for this. If the federal budget is treated to major liposuction -- or, better, stomach surgery so's it can't eat more -- and the remaining revenue is used to pay down the debt, I'm good with it.

But I can see the lefties in Congress breathing a sigh of relief that they'll still have the big bucks rolling in.

What I want to see is Perry reversing his message, so it reads: first, we kill all the bloated, useless and wasteful spending by law. Then we set up a tax system that works.

33

>>  Tell people your plan for lower gas prices.

He already has.  1.2 million new jobs too.

34 Who cares what the CBO projects anyway?  Their scoring systems are, in a word, broken. 

35 We just need Cain and Perry to cut a deal, send Mittens home, and let liberal lamentations begin

36

I don't trust a tax plan that doesn't account for the intricacies of defining every detail of everyone's life so that the IRS will ensure everyone's well-being and/or compliance with the way Congress thinks we should live.

 

37

I can write all the details of my 54 points on a post card. In teeny, tiny, itsy-bitsy font.

38 Well look.  Yes the government has to raise a lot of money.  Because we have a tremendous debt to pay off.

39
the Perry plan was scored by a company called John Dunham and Associates.
Posted by: MDH3




Judging by their news blog, they're apparently the preeminent firm in feral cat population analysis.

40 Now if he could just sell his idea to the American people without having mini-strokes just as he's about to make his point...

41 Wonder how Romney is going to respond.

42 "Romney's novella: no one will look at something that damn long." Which is, I think, the point.

43 Wonder how Romney is going to respond.

Posted by: macintx at October 26, 2011 08:26 AM (ucs8Y)

We can't afford to let our tax system to become a Perry Scheme.

44 Perry's plan looks Asian to me.

45 35 We just need Cain and Perry to cut a deal, send Mittens home, and let liberal lamentations begin Posted by: Jean at October 26, 2011 08:21 AM (ilc7b) I WISH! Unfortunately Cain seems to have a real grudge against Perry and has said he wouldn't support Perry if he were the nominee. I keep waiting from him to walk that back but he's said it more than once. Heartache.

46

 

 

This plan is just not bipartisan enough.

We need both sides to work on this and come up with a solution that benefits Democrats so they don't lose their jobs.

You wouldn't want them to be thrown out on the street?

If you do, you're racist.

 

47 Posted by: MrScribbler
............
It's seven years.

48 Under Perry's plan, the economy would be $3.5 trillion bigger than under the CBO's estimate of current growth.

Another tax plan based on hope as a method, the criticism used against Cain's 999?

49 We will never pass a balanced budget amendment.  And, even if we did, I don't think it's a good idea.

Once you do so, you involve the courts in the budgeting process.  You will have every special interest group known to man petitioning the Supreme Court to force Congress to fully fund their programs.  Defense will end up being at the bottom of the heap and get cut the most.

What happens during a recession like we are in right now when you have a balanced budget amendment?

We are down in revenue by almost $400 Billion per year.  We can never run a deficit again?

50 39, that's funny right there.

51

I WISH! Unfortunately Cain seems to have a real grudge against Perry and has said he wouldn't support Perry if he were the nominee. I keep waiting from him to walk that back but he's said it more than once. Heartache.

Strike II.

Cain pissed me off with being phoney offended at a pretend past-tense pseudo-racist rock.

Now he's digging in with this crap.

 

52 Posted by: dagny at October 26, 2011 08:39 AM (rmDVL)
Herman had a chance to be gracious and on point, but decided to be irresponsible instead.
Maybe in another 300 years, this will all go away?

53 Judging by their news blog, they're apparently the preeminent firm in feral cat population analysis.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at October 26, 2011 08:25 AM (oBrVT)

 

From Wikipedia: The Feral Cat Population Analysis was a Rockabilly band that change their name to The Feral Cats Experience and then to The Feral Cats.  They were taken to court by Country Western artist (and guitarist for Porter Wagoner) Ferroll Katz for brand infringement. Losing that court case The Feral Cats changed the name of their band to the name it found its greatest success, Spandau Ballet. 

54 Michael Medved kept saying yesterday that Perry's plan wouldn't produce enough revenue.

55

Rich people/job creators look at the massive hole we're in and can't figure out how we're going to fill it without huge tax increases, and not just on them. That's not bullish for consumers or business.

Toonces thinks, "They should be thanking me!" for not raising taxes, but his fecklessness (Weber-ian word?) in dealing with spending just telegraphs higher taxes. So you can see the same effect as a planned tax increase when you don't deal with spending.

Perry needs to lean on the spending side when pushing this plan and also emphasize stability in the code going forward.

56 I"m hoping Cain will implode and his supporters will come back to Perry.  They will either go to Perry or Newt, and I can't see many of them picking Newt over Perry.  But at this point, I have to say that not Perry, I'd rather see Newt over Romney.  For me it's looking more and more like anyone but Romney. 

57 Plan sounds solid, especially the big ticket stuff like cutting the corporate tax to 20%, but will it be enough to pull the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserabl;e birther back into double digits?

58 Unfortunately Cain seems to have a real grudge against Perry and has said he wouldn't support Perry if he were the nominee. I keep waiting from him to walk that back but he's said it more than once.
Heartache. Posted by Ms Choksondik

Prior to this campaign, how well did Cain/Perry know each other? Probably not at all. So whatever grudges exist from the campaigning, Perry's "offense". I wouldn't ask Cain to walk back, but rather, require Perry to make whatever amends over lines drawn.

If either candidate wants to prove they can work in DC, then they'd have to prove it now, resolving whatever differences for the betterment of our Constitutional Republic. If they care, they will. Otherwise, it's all about another "me-me-me, I-I-I" hopey-potus regardless of brand. Aside from "can't afford another", I don't want another and won't pay/vote to get another.

59 55Michael Medved kept saying yesterday that Perry's plan wouldn't produce enough revenue.

Posted by: learflyer at October 26, 2011 08:50 AM (9vscO)

Medved's a nice guy but he's often malinformed.

60 the Perry plan was scored by a company called John Dunham and Associates.
Posted by: MDH3

/no relation of Dunbar Associates

61 55 Michael Medved kept saying yesterday that Perry's plan wouldn't produce enough revenue.

Posted by: learflyer at October 26, 2011 08:50 AM (9vscO)

Enough revenue to do what exactly?  Keep growing at > 7% per year? 

Maybe we should try cutting spending so it matches revenue--nah that will never work.

62

The public needs to know that tax increases go to unions and then to democrats.

 

63 6255Michael Medved kept saying yesterday that Perry's plan wouldn't produce enough revenue.

Posted by: learflyer at October 26, 2011 08:50 AM (9vscO)

Medved's a nice guy but he's often malinformed.

 

 

 

I hope so.  Perry's plan sounds good to me.

64 Ron Paul and Bill Still (bill2012 dot com) both want to abolish the IRS and the income tax. That sounds much better to me..any other takers?

65 Perry.org hires John Durham to do an analysis. The analysis is positive. Really? It may or may not be but once again your standard of what's acceptable or not when evaluating a position is so inconsistent it's laughable.

66 58 Havedash

Newt (gnashing of teeth). I need to KNOW that the POTUS is internationally capable to lead the USA, at least knowing in advance precisely into what shit he's leading us.

Given, he's an opportunist. No surprise, so is Perry and so is Cain. Who's smarter? Newt. Who's more politically networked? Newt. Who has proven delivery of "Contract" with voters? hm. Who can face off Putin, China/NKorea, and the Muslim Brotherhood? Now ask, who will face down the Muslim Brotherhood by withdrawing all US tax-funds from its sponsorship. If it's smaller governance within constitutional restraints on powers un-abused that Americans want and expect for our obedience to law and taxation, don't expect that from them.

Has Bachmann officially withdrawn her potus candidacy--is Politico preempting her announcement like they did Teh Fred's? (fuck Carl Cameron, the fabricator of his own quoted insider unnamed source being himself, lording his own opinions and wishes through media broadcast.) Michele managed to play America's Tea Party heartstrings while proving her legislative leadership as the next House Speaker candidate in the running for GOP neoconservative leadership.

67 Prior to this campaign, how well did Cain/Perry know each other? Probably not at all. So whatever grudges exist from the campaigning, Perry's "offense". I wouldn't ask Cain to walk back, but rather, require Perry to make whatever amends over lines drawn.

If either candidate wants to prove they can work in DC, then they'd have to prove it now, resolving whatever differences for the betterment of our Constitutional Republic. If they care, they will. Otherwise, it's all about another "me-me-me, I-I-I" hopey-potus regardless of brand. Aside from "can't afford another", I don't want another and won't pay/vote to get another.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 26, 2011 08:54 AM (lpWVn)

 

From what I can tell, Cain started it with going after Perry on immigration (not unwarranted) and saying he wouldn't support Perry for that reason.  That hurts me to say because I really like Cain- a lot.  My guess is he assumed early that Mitt INEVITABLE!!11!! Romney would get the nom and he was positioning for VP.  Up until Cain introduced 999 it was a veritable lovefest between the two at the debates.

I just found an article from The Hill where Cain kinda walked back the comments by saying he'd support any other GOP candidate who got the nom 100% EXCEPT for Perry who would only get 80% support. It seems personal to me and I honestly find that surprising as Cain doesn't seem like a petty guy.  Politics brings out the worst in everyone.  I used to listen to Cain's radio show and he's really fabulous and seems so genuine.  I hope those two kids can work this out.  I'd be delighted with Perry/Cain or Perry/Newt or Newt/Cain.

68 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
(mandatory first statement by me in any thread)

I'd be delighted with Perry/Cain or Perry/Newt or Newt/Cain.

Really, though, when was the last time someone running for Pres got the VP nod?  Was it Bush41 in 80?  I don't expect anyone running for the nomination to get the VP slot.

69 @69. that is THE ONLY talking point that has been pushed by anyone who seeks to discredit Dr. Paul's stance on foreign policy. The problem is people cannot address the right and wrong of being the world's police force. Don't like it? change the law. Until then..

70 Really, though, when was the last time someone running for Pres got the VP nod?  Was it Bush41 in 80?  I don't expect anyone running for the nomination to get the VP slot.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at October 26, 2011 09:41 AM (8y9MW)

Didn't Biden run for Pres. in 2008?  Or did you mean on the GOP side?

71 "foreign policy views are enough to disqualify from holding any office"

The War Against the Nation State

Today’s attack on Libya comes in the context of a broad attack on the institution of the sovereign nation state itself, as it has existed since the Treaty of Westphalia in 1648. The United States and the British are deeply concerned by the large number of nations which are seeking to escape from Anglo-American hegemony by actively pursuing large-scale cooperation with Russia on security, with China on economic questions, and with Iran for geopolitical considerations. The CIA/MI-6 response has been a wild orgy of destabilizations, people power coups, color revolutions, and palace putsches, signaled by the document dumps by the CIA limited hangout operation known as Wikileaks, which has targeted names of the CIA hit mist from Ben Ali to Qaddafi. The Obama strategy would have preferred an exclusive reliance and the illusion that the Arab Spring was really a matter of youthful visionary idealists gathering in the public square to praise democracy, the rule of law, and human rights. This was never the reality: the actual decisions were being made by brutal cliques of generals and top officials bribed or blackmailed by the CIA who were moving behind the scenes to oust such figures as Ben Ali or Mubarak. Whatever else Qaddafi has done, he has undoubtedly forced the CIA and NATO to drop the pleasant mask of youthful idealism and human rights, revealing a hideous visage of Predator drones, terror bombing, widespread slaughter, and colonialist arrogance underneath. Qaddafi has also ripped the mask of “Yes We Can” off Obama, revealing a cynical warmonger intent on the continuation of Bush’s infamous “Dead or Alive” and “Bring it on” policies, although by other means.

The Recycling of Bin Laden's Men: Once NATO enemies in Iraq and Afghanistan, now NATO allies in Libya [May 24, 2011]

72 I love how the left has convinced themselves that the majority of the problem (and hence the means for correction) lies in the Bush tax cuts.

The truth is that revenues went up dramatically (not down) after those rate reductions, just as was the case after the Kennedy and Reagan cuts.

Moreover, having now strangled the economy of nearly all its vigor over the past five years, the notion that you can get our budget projections back on track by overtaxing the few remaining people with significant income is beyond folly.

Either the Administration simply doesn't understand basic economics (highly improbable), or they have no intention of ever facilitating meaningful repayment of our debt, because the current approach and all presently contemplated "tweaks" are unserious and insufficient on their face.

73

 polynikes - Texan for Romney at October 26, 2011 09:30 AM

Thank you my son. I knew I could count on you to try and spin Perry's superior plan into something less than my awesome Obamalite stuff.

Keep up the good fight. I'll FedEx you a new pair of Temple Underwear for your usage in times of trouble.

74

32....What I want to see is Perry reversing his message, so it reads: first, we kill all the bloated, useless and wasteful spending by law. Then we set up a tax system that works.

Perry's message of "Cut, Balance & Grow" has the word 'cut' in the first position, which indicates his commitment to reigning in Fedzilla. ....He also has a history of making budget cuts, even back when he was a Democrat.

75 Dick Nixon you have to be one of the least funny people on this site but that doesnt keep you from trying. Keep going with the bigoted angle. It's a winner.

76

But  dude who's staffer was mysteriously found dead in his office and there was never much of an investigation stalwart conservative Morning Joe Scarborough...

FIFY.

77

Polynikes you have to be the biggest Romney koolaid guzzler on the internet.

I am a bigot. I hate people like the SCOAMF. I merely despise Romney, who is Obama Jr with his tax increases, socialized medicine, constantly evolving positions and lack of testicles. Not to mention that stunt he pulled in Ohio yesterday.

Sucks to support a person Romney doesn't it Polynikes? Of course, you probably have only looked at Romney at waist level with your fanatical support and slavish drooling over everything Mittens.

Obama Lite. It suits you.

78 And by bigot, I mean I am not a Romney supporter. That is the slur of the day from Mittens Land.

79 What Nixon no underwear jokes this time?You're slipping.

80

Perry:  My economic plan will dramatically INCREASE government revenues.

Other Republican hopefulls:  Dude, you are in the wrong fukin party, we are the party of trying to decrease the size of the government.

81 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

82  (69) Mallamutt

Quick! Paultard tinfoil whatever. Argue that knowledge isn't power.

There's no reason to assume so much (erroneously) when every candidates' platform/agenda is available. In order to credibly critique, due diligence, please.

Whatever Paul would "like" to do, there's ever constitutional efficacy. When the propaganda is anti-Paul, it requires as much scrutiny as any other propaganda, particularly given established insider prejudice regardless of party. "Paultard!" has no logic.

I took the public opinion stance, but was curious enough to figure why on earth Paul would be so "crazy" and studied him. Not surprisingly, the propaganda isn't simply biased against him, it's twisted. Whatever so-called quotes leveraged against him inevitably ignore the broader context. For instance, remember that Ron Paul voted with Congress' initial authorization for the Military to kill bin Laden. But there was a legitimate process authorized. It failed in execution because the potus was fucking fucker wagging dogs. Now, skipping ahead, ignoring rule of law, issuing assassination orders willy-nilly from the Oval Office, is as illegitimate as ever, authoritarianism gone bestial. And where is the public outcry? Neoconservatives ignoring rule of law call constitutional conservatives "crazy" and outdated. Whose party is the Republican Party that labels the constitution crazy and outmoded?

A) Of the GOP POTUS candidates, Ron Paul is a better economist than the others. He is the renaissance American to counter Newt's neoconservative claim to brilliance. ...documentary evidence that Paul is not only a master of the topic; he has provided a coherent explanation of nearly everything the government has done wrong in this area since he first entered public office. He also provides a way out, as implied by the subtitle: free market, honest money, and private property. Dr. Paul has consistently battled for all three. Economics is topic about which most politicians are abysmally ignorant. As this books shows, Ron Paul is a master of the topic and the nation's teacher on a vast range of economic issues.

Knowing what Ron Paul would "like" to do defines what Ron Paul would veto in turn: abuses of authority. Without massive spending cuts, no tax cuts or tax reform will avert America's economic DOOM. Without termination of parasitic bureaucrats abusing unconstitutional authorities through government, there won't be any spending cuts. Without clipping back the abuses, nothing will change.

B) I've never been so appalled with our government as recent events resulting from our nation's leadership have shamed America. Our government isn't simply treacherous, but barbarous. #76. US Sec./State Hillary authorized a truce with Gaddafi whose white flagged convoy was annihilated by NATO while Gaddafi sodomized, mutilated and executed as Americans cheer on the genocide of blacks and the mutilation of females kept in slavery.

And Mallamutt, you believe Ron Paul's wrong and without a shred of credibility. Wishing it won't make a lie true.  "Paultard!" certainly tags neoconservative prejudice and ignorance. There is no way in hell that Ron Paul would veto a Congressional Declaration of War.

Congress has been rendered virtually irrelevant in foreign policy decisions and regularly cedes authority to an executive branch that refuses to be held accountable for its actions.

As Commander-in-Chief, Dr. Paul will lead the fight to:

* Make securing our borders the top national security priority.

* Revitalize the military for the 21st century by eliminating waste in a trillion-dollar military budget.

* Follow the Constitution by asking Congress to declare war before one is waged.

* Only send our military into conflict with a clear mission and all the tools they need to complete the job – and then bring them home.

* Guarantee our intelligence communityÂ’s efforts are directed toward legitimate threats and not spying on innocent Americans through unconstitutional power grabs like the Patriot Act.

* Avoid long and expensive land wars that bankrupt our country. Use constitutional means to capture or kill terrorist leaders who helped attack the U.S. and continue to plot further attacks.

* End the nation-building that is draining troop morale, increasing our debt, and sacrificing lives with no end in sight.

* Ensure our veterans receive the care, benefits, and honors they have earned when they return.

As President, Ron PaulÂ’s national defense policy will ensure that the greatest nation in human history is strong, secure, and respected.

So Ron Paul's potus campaign serves what good? To rejuvenate American memory of chronology and love for our Constitutional Republic. In God We Trust? I trust in the divided and limited government powers, powers doomed for abuse, requiring vigilance to restrict. I absolutely distrust authoritarian abuses of globalist-corporatist elitism.

Whether Ron Paul is "electable" being "Anyone But Obama (Romney)"?  Whether Ron Paul's platform implements constitutional integrity and practical solutions? Don't lynch based on prejudice before a proper hearing to disclose and argue the facts of the case.

I have no reason to expect logic to prevail. Athen's democracy voted to kill their gadfly Socrates. Ignorance didn't provide their bliss, either. That won't hamper those loyal to logic and our constitutional integrity from arguing the case for voter epiphany given DOOM at hand. AT LEAST vote '12 on behalf of a valuable US dollar. No nation or empire survives without economic security.

83

Perry:  My economic plan will dramatically INCREASE government revenues.

Other Republican hopefulls:  Dude, you are in the wrong fukin party, we are the party of trying to decrease the size of the government.

---

He is going to reduce expenditures, jackass.  The revenue can be used to bring down the debt. 

84 Perpetual candidate sock off

85 Has anyone here run the numbers on personal taxes if/when employer-provide health insurance benefits are taxed?  I read yesterday that Perry's plan includes phasing in taxation of that benefit. 


(No, I am not a fan of that.  I do not buy the argument that by taxing it people are more confronted with efficient vs inefficient/expensive health insurance plans, simply because we are already confronted with that now and it doesn't help.  Every time husband or I have switched jobs we have to make that decision about whether or not to do with expensive or cheap coverage.  I don't know what those folks who assert otherwise are talking about.) 

86  (87) According to former potus administration's computer science intelligence consultant (Navy/NSA) Wayne Madsen (Report) witnesses in Libya, US Sec./State Hillary authorized a truce with Gaddafi whose white flagged convoy was annihilated by NATO while Gaddafi sodomized, mutilated and finally executed, and then hung in a meat locker for public gawking before a secret desert burial was proclaimed.

87 No mas.

88

Posted by: didn't take long at October 26, 2011 11:19 AM (lpWVn)

That's right, brother! Lay some Truth on those Big-Government Statist Pseudo-Conservatives!

There's only One True Conservative in this race!! He's a Texan with the initials R.P., but his name ain't Rick Perry!!

RAWN PAWL!!!1! America's Greatest Patriot!

I loved your summary of the miracles his defense policies will work to secure our Great Nation, but you left out an important part:

* DAWKTOR PAWL!!!1! will keep America from meddling in the affairs of other sovereign nations! Under his watch, America will make no effort to keep terrorist nation-states led by theocratic madmen from aquiring nuclear weapons they intend to use on America or her allies! There's no article in the Holy Constitution that addresses nuclear proliferation! PWNED, BILL KRISTOL!

* The One True Conservative will end the senseless, unconstitutional hemorrage of foreign aid to countries that hate us because we meddle in their affairs by preventing them from attaining nuclear ICBMs! RAWN PAWL!!!1! will also end the senseless, unconstitutional flow of foreign aid to stalwart allies such as Isreal! Why should America expend its precious treasure assisting an allied democratic state which is threatened on all sides? SUCK IT, JONAH GOLDBERG!

Keep spreading the Truth, brother!! RAWN PAWL!!!1! stands for Liberty! Particularly Liberty from foreign-aid slavery to Zionists!

89 Heard George Bush II on OReally last night. Made Bush sound articulate!
This guy is toast, no amount of debate prep will help and his planned attacks on everyone not him will further drive him  from the herd.

Go back to Texas and do good there, please.

90

Conceakled Kerry or Submit at October 26, 2011 12:08

Blatant Lie. But, that is expected from the Romney Clan.

Heard Mittens was flipping this morning from yesterday's stupidity in Ohio. Imagine that.

91 When a candidate funds an analysis of his own proposal, the result can't be trusted. Recall the 2001 tax cuts, and the doubling of the debt over the next seven years. Even if we trust Perry's 4.7T number, that would still be a ~40% increase in the national debt. Instead of pie-in-the-sky projections, Perry should make hard promises on spending cuts. Also, according to Perry's numbers, he would need to slash the military and other discretionary spending by about 40% to balance the budget. I think that is unrealistic, given his record in Texas and the tremendous inertia in Washington that resists spending cuts. Bottom line: give me a tax plan that reduces debt, not increases it. Pair it with specific promises of spending cuts. We don't need another Bush.

92 Perry did great on O'Reilly.  He called Mitt an opportunistic liar without smearing the conservative movement in the process, unlike Romney's slanderous attacks on anyone serious about Social Security reform. 

93 96 When a candidate funds an analysis of his own proposal, the result can't be trusted.

Apparently you have never hired a consulting firm in your entire life. 

94 @98 Not w/r/t political promises, no. Never will. They say what they're hired to say.

95 Wow, are you naive, Jordan. 

96 Because the flat tax would be optional it does nothing to fix the current tax system which is overly complicated and favors the few with the ability to play the numbers game.

Worst of all the flat tax will create huge budget deficits because its implementation is not a revenue-neutral. Because many households would see a reduction in their taxes there would be a dramatic decrease in the amount of revenue the government was able to collect. (http://eng.am/umgl7J)

While reducing taxes isn't itself a bad thing it becomes one when it puts the government deeper in debt. Yes we have to address our current level of spending, but there are serious questions as to whether this flat tax will be able to raise the amount of revenue that the government needs to help bring us out of this recession.  

A flat tax might work in the future but with the economy in the shape it is Congress is better of simplifying the current tax system by reducing tax rates and eliminating tax expenditures.

97
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