June 14, 2011
— DrewM While we wait for Ace's debate opus, some news from two guys who weren't there.
First, via Major Garrett, Texas Governor Rick Perry starts to make the rounds.
PerryÂ’s recent out-of-state trips, including his appearance tonight in the Big Apple, have heightened interest, and scrutiny, about Perry jumping into the GOP presidential primary. Perry bashed Barack Obama in Los Angeles on Sunday and his speech scheduled at the Grand Hyatt near Grand Central Station this evening had originally been a slot reserved for businessman Donald Trump, who is now out of the running.Perry also will head to North Carolina for a meeting of the Republican GovernorÂ’s Association, and this coming weekend he will hit New Orleans for a GOP event that looks a lot like a cattle call for White House hopefuls.
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“I have a lot of out-of-state travel that some might analyze that ‘Oh he’s got a game plan and they’re implementing it.’ That’s not correct. There’s not a game plan,” Perry said. “I’m giving it some thought. There are a lot of people calling and saying, 'Hey, we would like you to consider getting into the race.'”
I know a lot of people are excited about Perry but I think a lot of it is based on 2nd and 3rd hand accounts. I'm not saying he won't be great, I just don't too many of us who aren't in Texas have seen him in action. He seems to have a strong story to tell, so I'm looking forward to him getting in the mix.
Jon Huntsman on the other hand, not so much.
I watched last night's debate and had many thoughts on it, none of them however were, "You know what this field really needs? A candidate like Jon Huntsman who wanted a bigger stimulus and who called Barack Obama "a remarkable leader" in a non-ironic way."
But run he will.
On his Facebook page Monday, Mr. Huntsman posted: “I’m getting into this because we’re about to hand over a country with $14.2 trillion in debt, $100 billion in spending per month, 9.1% unemployment, and no relief in sight… for the first time in history we’re facing the prospect that the next generation are going to get a country… that’s less good, less capable, less competitive than the one we got. And I say that’s totally unacceptable.”Mr. Huntsman joins the field after a two-year stint serving as the U.S. ambassador to China, a post Mr. Obama tapped him for at the outset of his presidency. In order to win the nomination, the former Utah governor will have to convince Republican primary voters that his service in the Obama administration shouldn’t disqualify him as a candidate.
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Mr. Huntsman has said he will stake his prospects on a strong showing in New HampshireÂ’s first-in-the-nation primary and forego IowaÂ’s first-in-the-nation caucuses where social-issues conservatives hold more sway. He attributed the decision to his opposition ethanol subsidies, a stance Iowa corn farmers may oppose but wouldnÂ’t necessarily disqualify him to the rest of the electorate.
Mr. Huntsman supports same-sex civil unions and has advocated for legislation to curb carbon pollution, two positions that could put him at odds with conservative Republican primary voters.
Want some more Huntsman goodness? He won't attack Obama by name. Yeah, what could wrong with that plan?
Jon Huntsman '12: Because Tim Pawlenty Isn't Nice Enough!
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Not the Northeast version, the Southwest version.
He ain't perfick, but he's good enuff.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 14, 2011 10:27 AM (XyjRQ)
I've lost count. Am I the only Repuvlican who isn't running?
Posted by: maddogg at June 14, 2011 10:27 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: Rich Lowry's Combover at June 14, 2011 10:27 AM (/COcn)
He's got his negatives (who doesn't?) but his positives are better. Here's a link to a ThinkProgress piece on Perry (they say "10 things he doesn't want you to know") that may as well have been written by a Perry staffer. http://bit.ly/ju4Tvs
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 14, 2011 10:28 AM (8y9MW)
Huntsman? It is to laugh.
Posted by: real joe at June 14, 2011 10:28 AM (SlSoO)
Posted by: VillageIdiot at June 14, 2011 10:28 AM (utXSy)
JEF appointed you a paycheck and this is how you pay him back? By trashing him? You should expect something in your bed soon.
Watch your back.....watch your back.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 14, 2011 10:29 AM (UK9cE)
I just don't too many of us who aren't in Texas have seen him in action.
I'm concerned about that, too.
Posted by: arhooley at June 14, 2011 10:29 AM (elBGR)
Time will tell.
Except where Huntsman is concerned, time has told.
If you're a noted squish even while governing Utah, quite possibly the most Republican place on earth, what would you do in DC?
Posted by: Emperor of Icecream at June 14, 2011 10:32 AM (epBek)
Posted by: John King at June 14, 2011 10:32 AM (ltq3F)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 14, 2011 10:33 AM (fDFtP)
Perry and Romney -- the battle of the hairlines. Jay Cost says NE Republicans are out, Southern/Westerners are in.
Geography and Fructis are indicating Perry.
Posted by: arhooley at June 14, 2011 10:33 AM (elBGR)
That "deal maker" non-candidate with all the lost property bankruptcy experience in league with Obama. Anything for a pay-off.
Posted by: maverick muse at June 14, 2011 10:33 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Dr. Hidaka at June 14, 2011 10:33 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Ben at June 14, 2011 10:33 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Rich Lowry's Combover at June 14, 2011 10:33 AM (/COcn)
While I think he'd be a good take-no-shit candidate, I worry about a President Perry.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 14, 2011 10:33 AM (pLTLS)
let's fast forward to the convention
It should be quite interesting. George Bush gonna be there? Dick Cheney? John McCain?
Posted by: Soothsayer T-Shirt Corp at June 14, 2011 10:34 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Huntsman! at June 14, 2011 10:34 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 14, 2011 10:35 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Ben at June 14, 2011 02:33 PM (wuv1c)
Not even for a Klondike bar?
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 14, 2011 10:35 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Cicero at June 14, 2011 10:35 AM (QKKT0)
I don't understand why Huntsman would get in? There are already a glut of second tier candidates.
Is he some amazing speaker or debater or something? Does he really think he's going to stand out amongst the second tier players, especially considering some of them are fairly good speakers and debaters?
What's his path to winning the primaries?
Does he have appeal in Iowa, New Hampshire, or South Carolina?
Does he think he can sell himself as Romney but without Romneycare and AGW?
Posted by: Ben at June 14, 2011 10:36 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 14, 2011 02:35 PM (pLTLS)
Reminds me of Lindsey Graham... so, same thing.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 14, 2011 10:36 AM (136wp)
Not even for a Klondike bar?
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 14, 2011 02:35 PM (136wp)
Y'know, I really want one now.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 14, 2011 10:36 AM (FkKjr)
A quite cromulent candidate like that really embiggens the quality of our contenders.
Posted by: Jimmuy at June 14, 2011 10:36 AM (7O94D)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 14, 2011 10:37 AM (lbo6/)
Posted by: arhooley at June 14, 2011 10:37 AM (elBGR)
You're pretty generous with the complements there, guy.
Posted by: © Sponge at June 14, 2011 10:37 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Ducasti at June 14, 2011 10:38 AM (KYE7u)
Posted by: Gary Johnson at June 14, 2011 10:38 AM (e2VMT)
Huntsman is playing the part of Chuck Hagel.
Santorum is playing Mike Huckabee.
And John McCain will be played by...?
Posted by: Soothsayer T-Shirt Corp at June 14, 2011 10:38 AM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Mittens at June 14, 2011 10:39 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: str8 outta the basement at June 14, 2011 10:39 AM (1fB+3)
Posted by: Rich Lowry's Combover at June 14, 2011 10:39 AM (/COcn)
I have a big announcement coming up soon too. With some nice pictures. Please refer all inquiries to my legal counsel.
And Jim DeMint caused the recession.
Posted by: Alvin Greene at June 14, 2011 10:40 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: MC Doof at June 14, 2011 10:40 AM (jQykz)
He was always fairly conservative (on today's scale). Indeed, that's why he left the Democrat party however many years ago (16? he's not a Johnny-come-lately, exactly).
Former Aggie, former Ag Commissioner (his last post as a Dem, I believe). Certainly by the time he was W's Lt. Governor he was pretty solidly conservative across the board.
His position on the border isn't as strong as mine, but it's fairly solid (he's on the "Criminal Justice/National Security" side of that argument, and doesn't care too much about illegal immigration beyond those two concerns). He's good with business and taxes- he has repeatedly resisted raising taxes, and fought just about as hard to avoid tapping into the State's "Rainy Day" fund.
Again, he's got his issues: he'll need to come up with answers that sell (that is, that both explain his position and salve conservatives' concerns) about his over-reach with Guardisil and attempted over-reach with the Trans Texas Corridor, and he'll need to be ready to fight allegations of "cronyism" as laughable as that is with the current President.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 14, 2011 10:41 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Cherry π at June 14, 2011 10:41 AM (+sBB4)
Posted by: Soothsayer T-Shirt Corp at June 14, 2011 02:38 PM (sqkOB)
That guy with the crazy eyes what played the hugely fat guy who ended up having lung cancer on House.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at June 14, 2011 10:41 AM (6IReR)
I don't understand why Huntsman would get in? There are already a glut of second tier candidates.
Don't have a clue. Huntsman has been branded as McCain "without the war record and without the bona fides on national security". Just wonderful. Could he be in to sandbag somebody?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 14, 2011 10:41 AM (9hSKh)
Ben Breakthebank's speech today. Recap: It's all a process.
1. Raise debt ceiling.
2. Print more money.
3. Repeat until country is destroyed.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 14, 2011 10:41 AM (jx2j9)
I don't understand why Huntsman would get in?
He's running for something else. Cabinet post 2012, methinks.
Posted by: arhooley at June 14, 2011 10:41 AM (elBGR)
You're pretty generous with the complements there, guy.
Ha, fair enough.
For me it's essentially clear that Santorum, Cain, Paul, Johnson, and Gingrich are not going to win.
I think Bachmann(assuming Palin doesn't get in), Romney and maybe Pawlenty are the three on top. T-Paw only because there is a large contingent of anti-romney people who won't vote for Palin/Bachmann.
Posted by: Ben at June 14, 2011 10:42 AM (wuv1c)
It's all coming together!
Posted by: oblig. at June 14, 2011 10:42 AM (xvZW9)
Posted by: John Gruntsman (Moderator) at June 14, 2011 10:43 AM (fDFtP)
Posted by: Cherry π at June 14, 2011 02:41 PM (+sBB4)
May your platform shoes fail you in a camel pasture.Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 14, 2011 10:43 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Br'er Obama at June 14, 2011 10:43 AM (+lsX1)
but LulzSec, douche bags going around hacking anything and everything just opened a can of worms, they hacked EVE. Goonsquad and ze russians are gonna fuck their shit up
Posted by: The Dude at June 14, 2011 10:44 AM (Ig1Wo)
Posted by: The rents too damn high!!! at June 14, 2011 10:44 AM (UK9cE)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 14, 2011 10:44 AM (/U/Mr)
let's fast forward to the convention
It should be quite interesting. George Bush gonna be there? Dick Cheney? John McCain?
Posted by: Soothsayer T-Shirt Corp at June 14, 2011 02:34 PM
McCain will definitely be there. Oh wait, you meant the Republican convention?
Posted by: arhooley at June 14, 2011 10:44 AM (elBGR)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 14, 2011 02:44 PM (/U/Mr)
May you wake up to find you're the test fixture in a buttplug factory.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at June 14, 2011 10:45 AM (6IReR)
Posted by: lan sing at June 14, 2011 10:45 AM (YHrQZ)
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 14, 2011 10:45 AM (1fB+3)
Posted by: Ducasti at June 14, 2011 02:38 PM
Dick Cheney!
Posted by: DICK CHENEY! at June 14, 2011 10:46 AM (so1xa)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 14, 2011 10:46 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Zimriel at June 14, 2011 10:46 AM (5eXw4)
Posted by: Gary Johnson at June 14, 2011 10:46 AM (e2VMT)
Actually he was heavy into the AGW bandwagon. He doesn't even have support in his home State so one wonders what he is doing.
The recent PPP poll in SC had him dead last. In fact all of the polls have him dead last. On the write up ion PPP they said that as more and more people got "familiar" with him they did not like what they saw.
Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2011 10:46 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: No Whining at June 14, 2011 10:46 AM (FcKXR)
Wow! I live here and I didn't know he was that awesome. Dig past the stupidity, the confusion and the half-truths and it does read like a "Perry for Prez" press release.
Also, the hate--pure, unquestioning and ignorant--from the comments makes Perry look even better. Like Palin, when scum like that hates you, you're doing something right.
Posted by: Jimmuy at June 14, 2011 10:47 AM (7O94D)
Skipping Iowa altogether is a bad idea because it means he'll be out of the spotlight for the entire beginning of the primary season. I guess there's a chance Huntsman could break into the top three in New Hampshire (though at this point I don't see it) but he'll get crushed in South Carolina, at which point he'll drop out.
Huntsman will make Romney look like an arch-conservative.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 14, 2011 10:47 AM (JxMoP)
Posted by: maverick muse at June 14, 2011 10:47 AM (lpWVn)
Three way dance for the nomination: Romney, Bachman, and probably Perry.
All sorts of weird combinations can be assembled.
Posted by: Dick_Nixon at June 14, 2011 10:47 AM (kaOJx)
Posted by: Peasant living under Emperor Jeff's Iron Boot at June 14, 2011 10:48 AM (/COcn)
Posted by: Huntsman Campaign Slogan Evaluation Committee at June 14, 2011 10:48 AM (QKKT0)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 14, 2011 10:48 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2011 10:49 AM (M9Ie6)
So I hear on the radio this morning that the Texas state legislature has passed a bill allowing incandescent lightbulbs manufactured in Texas to be sold in Texas. It's going to Rick Perry to be signed.
Awesome.
Posted by: dagny at June 14, 2011 10:49 AM (K4aIT)
I know. I read that yesterday and thought, "What do you mean 10 things he doesn't want me to know? This reads like a press release. From his office."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 14, 2011 10:49 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Ducasti at June 14, 2011 02:38 PM
Dick Cheney!
Posted by: DICK CHENEY! at June 14, 2011 02:46 PM (so1xa)
I wouldn't rate lawyers as high as varmints.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 14, 2011 10:49 AM (/U/Mr)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at June 14, 2011 10:49 AM (fDFtP)
He's got his negatives (who doesn't?) but his positives are better. Here's a link to a ThinkProgress piece on Perry (they say "10 things he doesn't want you to know") that may as well have been written by a Perry staffer. http://bit.ly/ju4Tvs
The ThinkCommunism piece constitutes a ringing endorsement in my book.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 14, 2011 10:49 AM (svoa5)
Wow! I live here and I didn't know he was that awesome. Dig past the stupidity, the confusion and the half-truths and it does read like a "Perry for Prez" press release.
Also, the hate--pure, unquestioning and ignorant--from the comments makes Perry look even better. Like Palin, when scum like that hates you, you're doing something right.
If that's the worst they've got, Perry will skate in.
Not a thing on that list that is not explained by State law and/or the truth.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 14, 2011 10:49 AM (5d6vv)
“I’m getting into this because we’re about to hand over a country with $14.2 trillion in debt, $100 billion in spending per month, 9.1% unemployment, and no relief in sight… for the first time in history we’re facing the prospect that the next generation are going to get a country… that’s less good, less capable, less competitive than the one we got. And I say that’s totally unacceptable.”
Another shitbag Rhino that will say anything to sound like he's conservative. The fact that he thinks Toonces is a "remarkable leader" is all that you need to know about the guy.
Posted by: Cheri at June 14, 2011 10:50 AM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Grim at June 14, 2011 10:50 AM (gyNYk)
Posted by: Ahnold Shwartzenstooper at June 14, 2011 10:50 AM (1fB+3)
Other than Huntsman, that is?
Posted by: sifty at June 14, 2011 10:51 AM (2dbd9)
Huntsman will make Romney look like an arch-conservative.
maybe that's the plan. It's the old Mormon Salt Lake City Shuffle
Posted by: Ben at June 14, 2011 10:51 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at June 14, 2011 10:51 AM (6IReR)
Yes, I will be taking orders shortly for all your incandescent light bulb needs.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 14, 2011 10:51 AM (5d6vv)
So I hear on the radio this morning that the Texas state legislature has passed a bill allowing incandescent lightbulbs manufactured in Texas to be sold in Texas. It's going to Rick Perry to be signed.
Love it. I think they were trying that in Nevada or Utah or one of those tumbleweed states that doesn't have an Ivy League U in it.
Posted by: arhooley at June 14, 2011 10:52 AM (elBGR)
Am I right in this?
Posted by: toby928™ at June 14, 2011 10:52 AM (GTbGH)
I guess they're both scared of the anti-Mormon vote, but that was pretty unique to Huck, who ran on a "I'm evangelical and you are too, so I'm your guy." Perry might be able to make that case implicitly, but I don't see that from him from what I've seen. No other candidate will play the Christian identity politics like Huck did.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 14, 2011 10:53 AM (T0NGe)
Stupid work. I must have missed another meme.
Why are we using strange curses?
And, in the spirit of things:
May you mistake dog-vomit for your creamy gazpacho.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 14, 2011 10:54 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at June 14, 2011 10:54 AM (+lsX1)
maybe that's the plan. It's the old Mormon Salt Lake City Shuffle
Posted by: Ben at June 14, 2011 02:51 PM (wuv1c)
Except that I have read that those two have no love lost for each other. Maybe Huntsman's getting in to kneecap Romney by peeling off the RINOs, the country clubbers, and the northeastern types and thereby ensure that someone else wins the nomination.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 14, 2011 10:54 AM (JxMoP)
Aquaman was a host on AirAmerica for a while. I think he may work for one of those free newspapers in LA with the "massage therapists" now.
Posted by: sifty at June 14, 2011 10:54 AM (2dbd9)
Although the fact that that he was 40 at the time is more worrisome than being a Johnny-come-lately I suppose. The Guardisil and TTC issues aren't as big in my book as the 2001 student immigrant bill.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 14, 2011 10:54 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 14, 2011 10:54 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: nevergiveup at June 14, 2011 10:55 AM (i6RpT)
Except that I have read that those two have no love lost for each other. Maybe Huntsman's getting in to kneecap Romney by peeling off the RINOs, the country clubbers, and the northeastern types and thereby ensure that someone else wins the nomination.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 14, 2011 02:54 PM (JxMoP)
I suddenly love Jon Huntsman!
Posted by: AmishDude at June 14, 2011 10:55 AM (T0NGe)
SC introduced that bill in March. And yes we still have a factory that makes them here.
Posted by: Vic at June 14, 2011 10:55 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: lan sing at June 14, 2011 10:55 AM (YHrQZ)
Am I right in this?
Posted by: toby928™ at June 14, 2011 02:52 PM (GTbGH)
Yes, you are 100% correct. I He does not have a alternative identity.
Posted by: Arthur Joseph Curry at June 14, 2011 10:55 AM (136wp)
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 14, 2011 02:51 PM
Here's how you do it. Sell "toothpicks" for $1.50 each plus shipping. With each purchase get a free lightbulb.
Posted by: Blue Laws walkin' away whistlin' at June 14, 2011 10:55 AM (elBGR)
Posted by: John P. Squibob at June 14, 2011 02:49 PM (/U/Mr)
That is not a sock, I just want everyone to know.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 14, 2011 10:56 AM (T0NGe)
I can see Perry having a fairly clear path to the nomination.
He can win Iowa, Romney will win NH, Perry then can win South Carolina as they'll vote for a fellow southerner, and then they'll duke it out in Florida.
If Perry can win Florida, then he just needs to contest Romney is some of the northern states like PA, Ohio, Indiana, Montana, the Dakotas, and maybe California.
Posted by: Ben at June 14, 2011 10:56 AM (wuv1c)
Posted by: Drumming at June 14, 2011 10:57 AM (DW1Gs)
Sea-man.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 14, 2011 10:57 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Eugene V. Debs at June 14, 2011 10:57 AM (e2VMT)
Talking to carp doesn't really bring in the arch villains.
Posted by: sifty at June 14, 2011 10:57 AM (2dbd9)
Texas is just different. I'd guess that any Dem who switch to R in OK would be very similar. Until the last few years, our Liberals just haven't been as crazy as other states'. And, when he did switch, Texas (despite going R in every Presidential election for decades) was internally very Democrat. We had Democrat majorities in the State Legislature for most of Bush's term, IIRC. My parents, in fact, used to make a habit of voting in the Democrat primary even though they were going to vote R in the general. As my mom put it, "The Democrat is going to win, so I might as well help select one I can live with. And then I vote R just in case he somehow wins."
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 14, 2011 10:57 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Narhaci of the Jurchen at June 14, 2011 10:57 AM (5eXw4)
I can, now, confidently say that Ace is working WAY too hard on this upcoming post.
Posted by: garrett, now one hour and forty minutes older at June 14, 2011 10:58 AM (x5W3N)
Frank & Dodd?
More like Frankendodd, as in a monster created a bunch of maniacal fools who think their role in life is to play god.
Posted by: Soothsayer T-Shirt Corp at June 14, 2011 10:59 AM (sqkOB)
Also, Aquaman started out as a Villain. For Superman, I believe.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 14, 2011 10:59 AM (8y9MW)
Nobody is going to read past the headline anyway. Bring it on.
Posted by: Cherry π at June 14, 2011 11:00 AM (+sBB4)
Wonder if they called him C*ntsman in grade school. If the word even exists in Utah.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 14, 2011 11:00 AM (n2Voo)
Posted by: Aquaman at June 14, 2011 11:01 AM (1fB+3)
Posted by: t-bird at June 14, 2011 11:01 AM (FcR7P)
They claim their goal was to get 900 (he got 980 in attendance). Yes, they were aiming to fill 900 seats... in a 2,200 seat venue.
Because empty chairs are a great sign of confidence!
Posted by: laceyunderalls at June 14, 2011 11:02 AM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 14, 2011 11:02 AM (lbo6/)
Posted by: Breitbart at June 14, 2011 11:03 AM (fDFtP)
Snorting cocaine off of Britney Spears' back, or catching quaaludes popped out of Lindsay Lohan's crevice?
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at June 14, 2011 11:03 AM (n2Voo)
1) eminent domain [financial kickbacks];
2) sanctity of the family unit, rights of parents and children to communicate vs. government forcibly removing all children and sequestering based on false and fabricated charges -- aside from the State producing the false witness, the constitutionally protected freedom for religious practice predates the law [flaunting his West Texas Perry voter base favoritism]; and
3) in order to attend public school, executive order for the arbitrary STD vaccinations of all girls despite dangerous side effects including death and despite the student's sexual inactivity [financial kickbacks].
Think hard about Perry's unprecedented authoritarian and illegal exercise of executive experience as Governor of Texas.
Posted by: maverick muse at June 14, 2011 11:07 AM (lpWVn)
lacey, all that did was establish residency requirements. If a child of illegals was brought over when they were young and attended public school (as the SCOTUS ruled we must educate them), then, in order to receive in-state tuition fees, the student must have resided with an adult for a minimum of 3 years, graduated from HS or obtained a GED in Texas and must sign anaffidavit to obtain legal residence status. They don't get free college, just in state rates. And, in 2005, the law was changed to apply those residency requirements to anyone, regardless of legal status. (except for the affidavit to become legal residents.)
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 14, 2011 11:07 AM (5d6vv)
Care to back any of those up with, like, facts?
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 14, 2011 11:09 AM (5d6vv)
Not a thing on that list that is not explained by State law and/or the truth.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 14, 2011 02:49 PM (5d6vv)
Yup.
As for #1, I'll get excited about that when the left finally rouses themselves to get excited about the Border Patrol agents wrongfully in prison or any of the Americans killed by illegal aliens. Also known as, never.
Posted by: Jimmuy at June 14, 2011 11:10 AM (7O94D)
1: Which case of eminent domain? Find me one that was actually out-of-bounds (as eminent domain is really understood, not some rosy, NIMBY, version). No. TTC doesn't count, because he backed down on that one.
2: ??? What? Linky, please.
3: As has been beaten to death, the only thing required to get out of having your daughter vaccinated for HPV was to fill out a (relatively speaking: this is the government, after all) short form that said, "Thanks, but no thanks" and you're done.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 14, 2011 11:14 AM (8y9MW)
So I hear on the radio this morning that the Texas state legislature has passed a bill allowing incandescent lightbulbs manufactured in Texas to be sold in Texas. It's going to Rick Perry to be signed.
HAH.
Reason 2,347 why moving to Texas from craptarded Illinois was the smart play. And I offer to help out mpurin if he falls behind on the light bulb orders from those of you in other states less enlightened.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 14, 2011 11:20 AM (XyjRQ)
Posted by: The Schwalbe: © at June 14, 2011 11:22 AM (UU0OF)
People like him, but no one is excited about him.
Posted by: Soothsayer T-Shirt Corp at June 14, 2011 02:28 PM (sqkOB)
Au contraire, I am excited about Perry but I don't like him. This is what happens when we are stuck with an announced field of candidates who completely suck.
Posted by: Damiano at June 14, 2011 11:25 AM (3nrx7)
I completely understand the reasons for not having the vaccination. However, having had teenagers, I would still have them vaccinated for everything you can. If they had a vaccination for "stupid risk taking" and "stupid stupidness" and "it won't happen to me" then you might be safe with not vaccinating for sexually transmitted disease. As is, you may think she's safe, but she's not. Hell, I'd have them vaccinated for bora-bora fever since at any given time they might decide to use the same beer bong as some random tribesman right off the boat. You just don't know.
It's a stupid thing to get worked up about.
Posted by: dagny at June 14, 2011 11:26 AM (K4aIT)
Posted by: polynikes - undecided at June 14, 2011 11:30 AM (xECRb)
Posted by: Ryan Carbon at June 14, 2011 11:34 AM (QUtrB)
Well, that's the problem, innit? If he's seen as far more liberal (see comments on this thread, for instance) then he's the one who needs to set about changing them. So far, I haven't seen that.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at June 14, 2011 11:36 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Ken at June 14, 2011 11:37 AM (fFh95)
Posted by: Ryan Carbon at June 14, 2011 11:45 AM (QUtrB)
It seems that Palin narrates her ideas better than Perry does.
Preaching balanced budget "why we won't spend the rainy day fund now" rubs salt in wounds of overspending social justice program proponents as the proverbial line is drawn in the sand.
We're voting against the tide of today's commercially addicted American consumerism.
I'd mention a slight contradiction within Perry's memory.
In the Bible story explaining why "the chosen people" seed of Abraham emigrated to Egypt, Jacob/Israel's favorite son, Joseph the interpreter of dreams was sold into slavery by his jealous older brothers, but eventually worked up in rank to serve in the Pharaoh's administration as the one discriminating and doling out stored grain/food to everyone in exchange for things of value (money, tools and property including human slaves).
A moral of that story was to never sell your means for livelihood in exchange for nanny care. Or never sell your legal rights like Esau did for a bowl of porridge.
Biblical Values /God loves the ant more than the grasshopper/sarc off.
Plan ahead for a rainy day (like Noah) since it's either feast, famine or flood. And don't spend all of your money at once, especially don't squander your inheritance on Protecting Prestige or "deserved" vanity like the prodigal son.
Posted by: maverick muse at June 14, 2011 11:48 AM (lpWVn)
'12 particularly with our back against the wall and facing the final battle for America's survival, there's always Luke 12:20,
"But God said to him, 'You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you. Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?'"
Posted by: maverick muse at June 14, 2011 11:53 AM (lpWVn)
I'm a moronette. Do I need to stuff my bra more or what?
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 14, 2011 12:06 PM (5d6vv)
Unless his strategy is to siphon off Democrat crossover votes from Romney in states with open primaries, he might actually split the Democrats three ways ... Obama or Huntsman or Romney. I have to think about this some more. I doubt Huntsman would get much of the Republican vote but he would stand to dilute the influence of crossover Democrats and Independents in open primary states so maybe his running isn't such a bad idea. It might allow a real Republican to actually win the primary.
Posted by: crosspatch at June 14, 2011 12:07 PM (ZbLJZ)
It has to do with perry but I've read the same thing about pawlenty too.
Posted by: curious at June 14, 2011 12:09 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: booger at June 14, 2011 12:16 PM (9RFH1)
Ryan Carbon, I'll link over to read Huntsman's site.
Meanwhile outside of Utah, the only thing that Huntsman has made news with is since governing Utah is being Obama's man in China.
That line of progression brings up relative politically affiliated economic questions. How did the property deals go down and the permissive arrangement for the Mormon temple built in Hong Kong, 1996, and Mormon missionary proselytizing in Red China as English Teachers?
From 2002 quote:
From a financial standpoint, BYU and the Mormon Church are certainly in a position to provide very substantial support to the Chinese universities it chooses to partner with. Time Magazine has described the Church's "extraordinary financial vibrancy":
Its current assets total a minimum of $30 billion. If it were a corporation, its estimated $5.9 billion in annual gross income would place it midway through the FORTUNE 500, a little below Union Carbide and the Paine Webber Group but bigger than Nike and the Gap.
The Church's wealth comes from the "tithe" that it imposes on members — a compulsory contribution of 10% of each Mormon's income. Time reports that in 1996, "$5.2 billion in tithes flowed into Salt Lake City, $4.9 billion of which came from American Mormons."
The Church is clearly very interested in continuing the outstanding growth it has achieved outside the U.S. One reason for its phenomenal rate of increase is its missionary work.
/end quotePosted by: maverick muse at June 14, 2011 12:17 PM (lpWVn)
Unless his strategy is to siphon off Democrat crossover votes from Romney in states with open primaries,
Trump's flirtation to discredit serious scrutiny played Republicans and Michael Savage like a cheap violin for an NBC financial kickback on behalf of Obama's team.
Posted by: maverick muse at June 14, 2011 12:23 PM (lpWVn)
It has to do with perry but I've read the same thing about pawlenty too.
It was 2007. Perry announced he was going. He gave a speech. He went home.
Not smelling much of a conspiracy.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 14, 2011 12:23 PM (5d6vv)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 14, 2011 04:39 PM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 14, 2011 04:42 PM (mHQ7T)
Ah, a Perry fan. Welcome sister.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 14, 2011 05:09 PM (GTbGH)
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