September 02, 2011
— Ace Perry's previous debate hits are discussed at NRO.
Perry shouldn't do this:
In 2002, for instance, Perry faced businessman Tony Sanchez in the general election. At the start of their debate, the governor played it safe: He mostly ignored Sanchez’s swipes and listed his accomplishments with a pleasant, steady smile.When a panelist queried Sanchez about a bank of his that was under investigation, Sanchez asserted, “There were two federal judges and three federal agencies who said management and directors weren’t involved [in the wrongdoing]. . . . So I feel very good.”
“Mr. Sanchez, you shouldn’t feel good,” a solemn Perry replied, shaking his head. “You shouldn’t feel good when the federal authorities tell you that there is drug money that came into your bank in cash in suitcases. And then you sent the money to Panama at the request of those drug dealers. . . . You failed the test of leadership.”
Later, Perry lightened up. After Sanchez criticized Perry’s environmental policies, the governor noted, “What Mr. Sanchez didn’t tell you is that he recently told a Corpus Christi newspaper that he would copy Europe and allow Texans only two ice cubes per drink.” As chuckles rippled through the audience, Perry held up two fingers — and half-heartedly suppressed a grin — to illustrate his point. “That’s his conservation plan.” He then shot a glance at his opponent and quipped, “Mr. Sanchez, you’ve been spending too much time in Europe.”
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Further into the program, Perry questioned Hutchison about her support for the Troubled Asset Relief Program. As she explained the intricacies of her decision process — just as he had planned — Perry played to the crowd, staring off into the distance with raised eyebrows as if to ask, “Is she done yet?”
It's one thing for him to do that in Texas, where people tended to know him. In that situation he can show a little personality, and a little arrogance.
In a debut on a national stage, with millions of people tuning in to see who he is, that's exactly the wrong thing to do. The first goal should to be to let people you're a serious guy, on top of things, smart, in command, not easily rattled.
The joking must wait. Particularly because the last president who had been a governor in Texas loved to tease and had a lot of confidence and charm. Perry's goal is to convince people he's actually not George W. Bush, and he can do that by restraining the personality and just projecting a smooth fluency with policy and principle.
I think he understands that, though. In this interview with Mark Levin, he just explains himself (including his support of the Texas Dream Act, which is not the federal one) and winds up actually getting a blessing from Levin -- not an endorsement, Levin stresses, but Levin calls him one of the several candidates he could support enthusiastically.
If Perry gets cute, jokesy, or swagger-y in the debate, he'll halt his momentum and lose some of it. If he stays on policy, he wins.
I think as a general matter that people have to shore up their weaknesses, not play to their strengths. Strengths are a comfort zone, and people like to stay in comfort zones; but strengths show themselves naturally, without having to emphasize them.
It's weaknesses that people are looking at. Address the weaknesses and the strengths will take care of themselves.
Clarification: I'm talking about the September 7 Republican debate at the Reagan Library, which is Perry's national debut.
Whether he can go after Obama hard, to his face, depends on how much credibility and authority he's amassed at that point (assuming he's the nominee). That's a different question.
Basically my thought on that is by the time the public is that much on your side that you can trash-talk your challenger, you've already pretty much won.
Further Clarification: I see where people are missing my point-- I didn't write it clearly.
I don't want Perry roughing up the other candidates with swagger and jokes. Of course, attack Obama -- but Perry's main goal in attacking Obama is to do so in a way that suggests that Perry knows what he's talking about and Obama doesn't.
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Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 02, 2011 12:53 PM (Y4pHE)
Posted by: fluffy, larger than life at September 02, 2011 12:54 PM (4Kl5M)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik channeling Willy Wonka at September 02, 2011 12:54 PM (nxptv)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 02, 2011 12:54 PM (+gfwN)
I think ace is talking about the primary debates coming up... or maybe I'm wrong. It's been known to happen!
Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2011 12:55 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: SCOAMF at September 02, 2011 12:56 PM (nVLlM)
However, in the general (and I'd hedge my bets again that Perry will be the GOP nominee), he'll need to be a bit arrogant and draw some blood from The One just to show him bleed. Not browbeat, but be assertive with some timely snark. And if we know Obama, he'll have but one debate if any at all. The last thing Obama wants is to share the stage with someone while defending his record. Perry (or whomever) would have a target rich environment.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 02, 2011 12:56 PM (r4t7/)
Sanchez was a prick
I know I consulted for his company, Sanchez-O'Brien out of Laredo.
I finally sent in a bill to them, labelled "SOB Oil Company"
They were not amused, the fuckers.
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 12:56 PM (+cOEs)
Posted by: ArcadeHero at September 02, 2011 12:56 PM (mmHDH)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at September 02, 2011 12:57 PM (nxptv)
Posted by: Jornolist at September 02, 2011 12:57 PM (975ga)
Ace was never heard from again.
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 12:57 PM (+cOEs)
Posted by: rdbrewer at September 02, 2011 12:58 PM (fNlmA)
All voters are ready for someone who has a "Presidential" look and feel. No more atoning quota hires. Sadly for them, this urge for a leader-y candidate works against Palin and Bachman, too.
Rick F'ing Perry feels presidential.
Posted by: Luke Duke at September 02, 2011 12:58 PM (C9AkW)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 02, 2011 12:58 PM (Y4pHE)
Posted by: ArcadeHero at September 02, 2011 04:56 PM (mmHDH)
He mistook the ewok suit for a coyote.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at September 02, 2011 12:58 PM (nxptv)
Respectfully disagree. Strongly.
At some point, fer fook's sek, *somebody* has to go after OBungle hammer-and-tongs. No more of this pussyfooting.
It's been shown - again and again - that OBungle's greatest weakness is his arrogance and thin skin. Light him right the frakk up, along the lines of pointing right at him and saying:
"This clown is a total loser. An incompetent boob. He's proven this again and again with his idiot policies and boneheaded moves. At every juncture, he's guessed wrong, and his inexperience and leftist ideology is ruining the country. Let's toss him out on his misshapen ear(s)."
Posted by: sanssoucy at September 02, 2011 12:59 PM (1jzfl)
Posted by: SCOAMF at September 02, 2011 12:59 PM (nVLlM)
Isn't Perry 9-0 in elections? I'm not concerned about his political instincts.
Posted by: toby928™ at September 02, 2011 12:59 PM (GTbGH)
In a debut on a national stage, with millions of people tuning in to see who he is, that's exactly the wrong thing to do. The first goal should to be to let people you're a serious guy, on top of things, smart, in command, not easily rattled.
The joking must wait. Particularly because the last president who had been a governor in Texas loved to tease and had a lot of confidence and charm. Perry's goal is to convince people he's actually not George W. Bush, and he can do that by restraining the personality and just projecting a smooth fluency with policy and principle.
Isn't this saying that's exactly what he did though ace? Granted he kind of did in the course of just one debate, but the quoted text says he started out serious and talked more about his record, and only later on in the debate did he "loosen his tie"
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2011 01:01 PM (GULKT)
Respectfully disagree. Strongly.
At some point, fer fook's sek, *somebody* has to go after OBungle hammer-and-tongs. No more of this pussyfooting.
It's been shown - again and again - that OBungle's greatest weakness is his arrogance and thin skin. Light him right the frakk up, along the lines of pointing right at him and saying:
"This clown is a total loser. An incompetent boob. He's proven this again and again with his idiot policies and boneheaded moves. At every juncture, he's guessed wrong, and his inexperience and leftist ideology is ruining the country. Let's toss him out on his misshapen ear(s)."
Posted by: sanssoucy at September 02, 2011 04:59 PM (1jzfl)
I like your way of thinking
Posted by: The Jackhole at September 02, 2011 01:01 PM (+qHxi)
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:02 PM (+cOEs)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 02, 2011 01:03 PM (+gfwN)
I wonder how many Solyndras will be in the new package? At this point the incumbency protection plan surely must be to grab as much taxpayer money as possible, subsidize all political friends, and get a kickback for the election campaign... you know, the Chicago Way.
The Federal Family needs to raid the children's money since they're not nearly as inclined to give it to the Capos voluntarily.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at September 02, 2011 01:03 PM (r4t7/)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at September 02, 2011 04:57 PM (nxptv)
I liked Palin. She was new, she talked a good game, she had charisma.
I wan't sure about the experience part. She then quit as governor of Alaska (pop. 500,000). I thought this was problematic. Her efforts afterward have not filled me with a great confidence she's up to the task.
If she wants in fine, awesome. Get in and criticize away (I don't know at what, Perry has the same ideology except he's actually been doing it). But her staying on the outside of the tent pissing in is beginning to fray any attachment I had for her. I can see the campaign commercial Obama will run against Perry with Sarah criticizing him before the "TOO EXTREME FOR PALIN" in block quotes. Frankly, what she's doing now with the soap opra drama is counterproductive not only to the party, but to the conservative movement itself.
Posted by: Jollyroger at September 02, 2011 01:03 PM (NCw5u)
That way when he lashes back, as he inevitably will, it makes it that much harder for the O-spinners. And leaves the SCOAMF looking like the whiny, petulant punk he really is.
Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada! at September 02, 2011 01:04 PM (GBXon)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2011 01:04 PM (UOM48)
Nope... Perry should go after him hard... but with humor.
With the things going on, we either need to approach this with Anger, sadness, or amusment.
Anger does not play well long term... sadness? becomes a negative... Humor? if not overdone can be very effective...
And besides, if you LAUGH at Obama? He's going to melt down onstage...
Remember, he is a Beta Male Narcicist... his ego is his way of coping with his own insecurities.... Laugh at him??? He'll blow, IMO.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 02, 2011 01:04 PM (NtXW4)
At some point, fer fook's sek, *somebody* has to go after OBungle hammer-and-tongs. No more of this pussyfooting.
But that's going to happen anyway.
JEF has no record, and when you point that out, he throws a Presidential hissy fit.
Perry isn't going to have to try very hard to rattle JEF.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 02, 2011 01:04 PM (2Mpi7)
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2011 01:04 PM (0N5pL)
You've got to call it like it is. There still is a rather strong social pressure to refrain from open criticism of Obama. Blame is to be laid at the feet of Congress, or the economy, or the always popular BOOOSHHH!!!11. Make him own it, make him shoulder the burden of leadership here and now, for the first time in his life.
Posted by: Britt at September 02, 2011 01:05 PM (8VTeN)
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Posted by: willow at September 02, 2011 01:06 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 02, 2011 01:06 PM (+gfwN)
Wait tll shit-for-brains pulls that middle finger routine during the debate.
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:06 PM (+cOEs)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 02, 2011 01:06 PM (Y4pHE)
Posted by: tsj017 at September 02, 2011 01:06 PM (4YUWF)
Posted by: Hill Country Texan at September 02, 2011 01:06 PM (iBG44)
If he does become our guy, then go all pit bull on Barky.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2011 01:06 PM (UOM48)
Government requires private banks to give out bad loans --> Fannie/Freddie guarantee these same loans --> Market collapses --> Government bails out private banks and Fannie/Freddie --> Government rewrites regulations with rolling bailout fund for private banks --> Government sues banks over Fannie/Freddie losses.
I'm just left shaking my head. None of this makes sense.
Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at September 02, 2011 01:07 PM (nRTou)
Posted by: fluffy at September 02, 2011 01:07 PM (4Kl5M)
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:07 PM (+cOEs)
It is still a free country, right?
....arright, hold him by one of his Dumbo's and make a fist then...
Posted by: ontherocks at September 02, 2011 01:08 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 02, 2011 01:08 PM (ijjAe)
I don't see how perry doesn't win the nom. He can hold back in the debates and save the good stuff for the general.
Or he can be a badass. Or a joker. Whatever.
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 02, 2011 01:09 PM (+gfwN)
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2011 01:09 PM (1Nzoh)
Posted by: izoneguy at September 02, 2011 01:09 PM (i6Neb)
Posted by: ace at September 02, 2011 01:09 PM (nj1bB)
/Rick Perry at the debates, throws a stack of paperwork onto the podium...
Mr. President, here are all my School Transcripts, Soc Sec Number, School records, shot records, dirvers license records, and Passport records of all my travels...
Well you let the American people see yours???
Posted by: CSPAN Epic Moments we'd Like to see at September 02, 2011 01:09 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: Kawfy at September 02, 2011 01:10 PM (2trrN)
Perhaps it will help when I bash him tomorrow. After all I'm all about Country First.As long as it all centers around me. I'm not reading any of the polling out there and only listening to the yes men and women out at my PAC but I *really* think it's my turn. You should probably listen to what I have to say. How's my hair look?
Posted by: Cuda at September 02, 2011 01:10 PM (pLTLS)
So Perry should reject Ace's advice, and spent the debate cracking jokes and looking right at the camera. Plus he should nominate Bobcat Goldthwait as his VP.
Posted by: Zombie John Cusack at September 02, 2011 01:10 PM (vjyZP)
Posted by: Phoenixgirl at September 02, 2011 01:11 PM (xhzx8)
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:11 PM (+cOEs)
he can attack Obama harshly once people know him.
With the caveat that he has to let Obama open that door first.
The race card will still be in play.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 02, 2011 01:11 PM (2Mpi7)
In the primary, at least initially (while folks are still getting to know him), start out straight. However, if it gets down to Perry v Romney (v the malignant dwarf Ron Paul), then I think Rick can use his swaggering style.
Posted by: Y-not at September 02, 2011 01:11 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:12 PM (+cOEs)
Posted by: erp at September 02, 2011 01:12 PM (Yjhpm)
I will find you. No matter how long it takes, no matter how far, I will find you.
Posted by: Hawkeye at September 02, 2011 01:12 PM (UqKQV)
he can attack Obama harshly once people know him.
I sit corrected and/or clarified. Just not ready for the 3-D chess.
Posted by: fluffy at September 02, 2011 01:13 PM (4Kl5M)
Yeah, it is. I mentioned this last night and I still think it's a possibility: We've heard some whispers about Barry's "Hail Mary Pass" for reelection by creating some sort of mortgage forgiveness program. I have an weird feeling this might be related and he'll mention something about it in his little speech.
Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at September 02, 2011 01:13 PM (nRTou)
Posted by: Kawfy at September 02, 2011 01:14 PM (2trrN)
On the other hand, people respond well to humor; funny lines are often the most memorable.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 02, 2011 01:14 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: fluffy, large and in-charge at September 02, 2011 01:14 PM (4Kl5M)
Posted by: Bob Beckel at September 02, 2011 01:14 PM (SjdO4)
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:14 PM (+cOEs)
Remember when one month ago the US, to much pomp and circumstance, not to mention one downgrade, announced a grand bargain raising the debt ceiling from $14.294 trillion to something much higher, with a stop gap intermediate ceiling of $14.694 trillion, or $400 billion more. Well, as of today, or less than a month since the expansion, total US debt is at $14.697 trillion. Yep - the total debt is again over the ceiling, which means the US debt increased by $400 billion in one month. Score one for fiscal prudence. And while the total debt subject to the limit is still slightly less, at $14.652, one week of Treasury auctions and will be time for Moody's to justify again why the US is a quadruple A credit.
(stolen from ZH)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 02, 2011 01:15 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:15 PM (+cOEs)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at September 02, 2011 01:15 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: ace at September 02, 2011 01:16 PM (nj1bB)
Rick Perry is no racist. He has a black horse named Millie.
Does he make her work the fields?
Jus' askin'
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 02, 2011 01:16 PM (2Mpi7)
Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at September 02, 2011 05:13 PM (nRTou)
Unless he's paying for it out of his own pocket, I can't see that flying at all. Another bailout, and everyone knows who foots the final bill for that.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 02, 2011 01:16 PM (z1N6a)
he walks on the wind, seen by no man, a legend in his own time
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 02, 2011 01:17 PM (UqKQV)
The race card has been so OVER-played it has no value anymore.
Posted by: Kawfy at September 02, 2011 05:14 PM (2trrN)
That's racist.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 02, 2011 01:18 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:18 PM (+cOEs)
What if he's going after the banks to fund it?
Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at September 02, 2011 01:18 PM (nRTou)
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 05:18 PM (+cOEs)
I hate that pina colada song, too
Posted by: Oldcat at September 02, 2011 01:18 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at September 02, 2011 05:18 PM (nRTou)
The banks with my money in them?
Posted by: Oldcat at September 02, 2011 01:19 PM (z1N6a)
I hate that pina colada song, too
Posted by: Oldcat at September 02, 2011 05:18 PM (z1N6a)
You're thinking of Warren Zevon.
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:19 PM (+cOEs)
Jimmy Buffett could play that volcano song. I'd go. And I hate that song.
Posted by: Dang at September 02, 2011 01:19 PM (TXKVh)
Unless he's paying for it out of his own pocket, I can't see that flying at all. Another bailout, and everyone knows who foots the final bill for that.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 02, 2011 05:16 PM (z1N6a)
Yup. The American people are definitely more knowledgable about this shit now. This would be epic fail.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 02, 2011 01:20 PM (Y4pHE)
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2011 05:19 PM (1Nzoh)
I even hate Buffet restaurants.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 02, 2011 01:20 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Rick Perry, bitches! at September 02, 2011 01:20 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2011 05:19 PM (1Nzoh)
What do you have against Luby's?
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:20 PM (+cOEs)
Posted by: toby928™ at September 02, 2011 01:20 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Rick Perry is...just asking questions. at September 02, 2011 01:21 PM (9CM5J)
The banks with my money in them?
Posted by: Oldcat at September 02, 2011 05:19 PM (z1N6a)
Ha! The banks your money used to be in . Now it's in a SEIU vault
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 02, 2011 01:21 PM (UqKQV)
I'm sure Obama's superior intellect and grace under fire will undermine any attempt by Perry to ridicule him with sarcastic humor. Besides, Perry is just another stupid cowboy from Texas. No way he can match up with the dreamy awesomeness that is President Obama.
Now, I'm off to fellate my girlfriend.
Posted by: Proudtobedonkeypunched at September 02, 2011 01:21 PM (zxrQh)
Posted by: ArcadeHero at September 02, 2011 01:21 PM (mmHDH)
Dude, get out more. You're kidding, right?
Posted by: cherry pi at September 02, 2011 01:22 PM (OhYCU)
There's a snarky comment there, but I won't touch it.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2011 01:22 PM (UOM48)
From what I read, he seems to get that- against a single opponent one can afford to be more aggressive. When it was a multiple-candidate race, he was more "sober" according to the article.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 02, 2011 01:22 PM (SY2Kh)
I'll need extra virgins to wash him down. Or else.
Posted by: the volcano at September 02, 2011 01:22 PM (4Kl5M)
I met Jimmy Buffet at the Parrot Bar in Margaritaville.
Posted by: Bi-Curious at September 02, 2011 05:21 PM (Lt/Za)
Rick Perry shoots parrots from choppers. He says they give him a headache with all that "polly wants a cracker" shit..
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:23 PM (+cOEs)
"Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure."
Posted by: cherry pi at September 02, 2011 01:23 PM (OhYCU)
Also, I have to agree with some of the other posts up the thread - I'm not sure if Barky will agree to any debates. Especially if he doesn't see any advantage in doing so. And given his poor debate style, I don't think there would be any advantage unless he's so far down in the polls that a hail mary would be needed.
Posted by: ugknown at September 02, 2011 01:24 PM (YUwuZ)
You think that, and I think that.
But there are millions of Americans, some black, some guilt-ridden whites, who will respond to cries of "racism!" like firehouse dogs to the alarm bell. Because of them, the race-baiters will continue to play their games -- and make Big Bucks at it -- and the rest of us will live with the very real fear that we're approaching a SHTF moment as the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure gets increasingly desperate.
As for Ace's contention that Perry take the Ed "Poppin' Fresh" Morrissey road to the election, I can't buy that. If ever the country needed plain truths presented bluntly, and to hell with the "optics," "civility" and "collegiality" some squishes want to see (and will never get from the liberals, even though they whine loudest about it) this is the time.
Posted by: MrScribbler at September 02, 2011 01:25 PM (YjjrR)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2011 01:25 PM (UOM48)
That's her complaint. No one will touch it.
Would you?
I wouldn't touch that with a robotic arm.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 02, 2011 01:25 PM (2Mpi7)
Buddy Roemer wasn't invited either, and he's not pleased about it.
I mean- how could we have a debate without the juggernaut that is Buddy Roemer?
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 02, 2011 01:26 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: ace at September 02, 2011 01:26 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Possible Perry Lines at September 02, 2011 01:27 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Dang at September 02, 2011 01:27 PM (TXKVh)
Ah. OK, that I can get on board with.
Even with Ron Paul. Drives the Paulbots nuts without looking like a douche if you just smother him kindly.
Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada! at September 02, 2011 01:27 PM (GBXon)
I liked the one with the ducks being blown around. There's a metaphor for the 2010 elections there somewhere.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 02, 2011 01:27 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2011 01:27 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2011 01:28 PM (1Nzoh)
That's her complaint. No one will touch it.
Would you?
I wouldn't touch that with a robotic arm.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at September 02, 2011 05:25 PM (2Mpi7)
Me either!
Posted by: Bender at September 02, 2011 01:28 PM (NtXW4)
Posted by: joeindc44 at September 02, 2011 01:29 PM (QxSug)
Rick Perry was good friends with Judge Roy Bean of Sanderson, TX.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at September 02, 2011 05:24 PM (Lt/Za)
Langtry, Texas.
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:29 PM (+cOEs)
Posted by: ace at September 02, 2011 05:26 PM
You've redeemed yourself, Ace.
Romney can shit in his own messkit...doesn't need Big Rick to do that for him. Remember how weenie-ish T-Paw looked when he tried to dip Bachmann's pigtails in the inkwell?
By the time the primaries are over, the SCoaMF may have generate enough digust that Perry can sit back on his porch in Austin, sippin' tall cool ones and watching 300 million people to beg him to get sworn in early.
Posted by: MrScribbler at September 02, 2011 01:30 PM (YjjrR)
A poor performance might not kill his candidacy, but it would wound him significantly. Expectations are high and it's the first time the public will have gotten a good look at him.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 02, 2011 01:30 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: quint at September 02, 2011 01:30 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2011 05:27 PM (UOM4
The Chicago thugs are back in Chicago living off the fruits of thuggery. Barry's left in DC holding the bag.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 02, 2011 01:30 PM (z1N6a)
What doesn't?
Yeah, I know, short trip, but I have a side bet on the over/under for major strokes inflicted.
Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada! at September 02, 2011 01:31 PM (GBXon)
Memory failed me. Thanks, and I trust the mesquite tree still stands.
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at September 02, 2011 05:30 PM (Lt/Za)
The only tree in miles.
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:31 PM (+cOEs)
Posted by: Kawfy at September 02, 2011 01:32 PM (2trrN)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 02, 2011 01:32 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 02, 2011 05:26 PM (SY2Kh)
And he was so good in "Barnaby Jones" too.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 02, 2011 01:32 PM (z1N6a)
What doesn't?
Posted by: Dang at September 02, 2011 05:29 PM (TXKVh)
Hmmm.... Kind of a Zen thing, but...
Can you drive someone someplace they already are?
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 02, 2011 01:32 PM (NtXW4)
Hammer Obama. Hammer him hard. Ignore your opponents. Act like you are in the race only against Obama.
Posted by: cherry pi at September 02, 2011 01:32 PM (OhYCU)
Perry needs to concentrate on jobs, he is going to get hit by NBC and Politico with things he said in his book. I saw them on Morning Joe salivating to nail him on that. He needs to give a 15 second response and then change back to jobs and what a failure Obama has been.
He needs to ignore Bachman and Romney the same way, 15 seconds on whatever he was asked and then on to jobs.
NBC and Politico are going to be out for blood though.
Posted by: robtr at September 02, 2011 01:33 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 02, 2011 01:33 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: ArcadeHero at September 02, 2011 01:34 PM (mmHDH)
Posted by: ugknown at September 02, 2011 01:34 PM (YUwuZ)
Posted by: Fish the Impaler
Google image search says... no. Appreciate it, but no.
Posted by: Dang at September 02, 2011 01:34 PM (TXKVh)
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2011 01:34 PM (1Nzoh)
A little self deprecation plays well in debate formats, since policy positions tend to be vague overall. Do something that shakes up the audience. Say something highly quotable. Don't try fitting your foot in your mouth though.
Crap, I just want this phase over so Perry can start taking it to the SCoaMF. I can just see him now, saying 'there he goes again'.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 02, 2011 01:34 PM (ENKCw)
Posted by: cherry pi at September 02, 2011 01:34 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 02, 2011 01:35 PM (UqKQV)
Coulter said on Hnannity that the administration said that it was giving NBC "permission" to change the debate. She loved the "permission" lime, and said that really clarified things about Obama and NBC..
Classic Coulter observation.
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:35 PM (+cOEs)
I imagine they are, but if they don't go after him someone else will, be it the other Republican candidates or the Dems. He's going to have to address the criticisms over what he wrote sooner or later, and it's important that we see that he has a plan for dealing with them.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 02, 2011 01:37 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Kawfy at September 02, 2011 01:37 PM (2trrN)
Posted by: Dave at September 02, 2011 01:38 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: quint at September 02, 2011 01:38 PM (GTbGH)
but there's nothing a crack whore won't do for......crack.
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at September 02, 2011 01:38 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Dave at September 02, 2011 05:38 PM (Xm1aB)
Or shoot a reporter. That will give him the election hands down.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 02, 2011 01:38 PM (z1N6a)
Tip for Perry:
LBJ used to pull out his shlong to impress reporters.
His nickname for it was "Jumbo".
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:39 PM (+cOEs)
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2011 01:39 PM (1Nzoh)
She's 52 years old, and humping a
grandma is a real plus if you're keeping score. She's worth a solid 6
points in the fuckability scale.
Maybe if I saw her in a pair of French cut Depends® with garters.
Posted by: Dang at September 02, 2011 01:40 PM (TXKVh)
Classic Coulter observation.
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 05:35 PM (+cOEs)
Plus it goads NBC to prove they aren't in the tank, if they dare.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 02, 2011 01:40 PM (z1N6a)
LBJ used to pull out his shlong to impress reporters.
His nickname for it was "Jumbo".
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 05:39 PM (+cOEs)
Link??
Posted by: Will Folks, esq. at September 02, 2011 01:40 PM (UqKQV)
My first thought was "Crap. I'm going to have to call Ace an idiot".
Fortunately, about a hundred of you seem to have hardened him for this eventuality.
Posted by: jwb7605 at September 02, 2011 01:40 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: H.L. Mencken's Ghost at September 02, 2011 01:40 PM (k5Tih)
Posted by: NBC/Politico at September 02, 2011 01:40 PM (r4t7/)
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2011 05:39 PM (1Nzoh)\
Sure you weren't reading "Casper the friendly Ghost" by mistake?
Posted by: Oldcat at September 02, 2011 01:40 PM (z1N6a)
Alpha male front runners, ahead in every GOP poll in the last two weeks, look weak punching down. No reason for it at this point.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at September 02, 2011 01:41 PM (dWPyO)
Her astroturf PAC already did take a shot at him in the form of a (badly done) TV ad. There's a good chance that she'll be asked about it and forced to defend it.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 02, 2011 01:41 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at September 02, 2011 05:37 PM (SY2Kh)
Yeah I know, I am just saying spend 15 seconds addressing it and then move on. It's written in his book, it isn't going anywhere, he owns it.
Posted by: robtr at September 02, 2011 01:41 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: H.L. Mencken's Ghost at September 02, 2011 05:40 PM (k5Tih)
But in the most polite way possible.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 02, 2011 01:41 PM (z1N6a)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 02, 2011 01:42 PM (Y4pHE)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 02, 2011 01:42 PM (UOM48)
This will be predicated on how the candidates are questioned by this particular Sept. 7 moderators....who, no doubt, want to get them to poke at and attack each other, and keep the focus away from Bozo's economic failures.
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 02, 2011 01:42 PM (ycuSb)
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at September 02, 2011 01:43 PM (fNdyx)
Clarification: I'm talking about the September 7 Republican debate at the Reagan Library, which is Perry's national debut.
Ok, I can buy that. He doesn't want to come across like Bachmann on his first outing.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2011 01:44 PM (0N5pL)
There's a good chance that she'll be asked about it and forced to defend it.
And despite the inevitable baiting from the moderators, Perry should deflect and not engage her.
Well except for a straight forward record correction. No need to go all "TPaw" on her ass though.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at September 02, 2011 01:44 PM (dWPyO)
I'm in the camp of: let Perry be Perry.
Posted by: Max Power at September 02, 2011 01:44 PM (q177U)
Posted by: mockmook at September 02, 2011 01:44 PM (bsydj)
TS Lee is supposed to miss my little corner of Louisiana, but it will make it windy, which increases the chance of wildfires!
The rest of the state will be underwater and we'll be crispy.
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 02, 2011 01:44 PM (XdlcF)
Perry, however is not going to get the vote of Texas's 2.3 million feral hogs, since he wants them shot from helicopters.
The Five should add that to their Romney juggernaut shit.
Posted by: Philbert Desenex at September 02, 2011 01:46 PM (+cOEs)
From what I read, he seems to get that- against a single opponent one can afford to be more aggressive. When it was a multiple-candidate race, he was more "sober" according to the article.
He knows how to be both somber and aggressive, too, as he was in that 2nd primary debate last year.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 02, 2011 01:46 PM (o2lIv)
Ace,
There are two points you've missed in Perry's debating style. The first is it's his style. Americans love boxing, Ultimate Fight Club, and seeing heads crunched on football. Perry being an unPerry will send them voting for Obama because he has no qualms leaving blood on the floor.
The second point you've missed is Perry's debating style. It's his style, not the NRO's. Nobody at NRO, G-d bless 'em all, has ever been governor; with a successful economic track record in a depression, and with all guns trained on them. They screw up, sales may slip - the work that happens is they end up working for Tina Brown.
I'm looking to see whom Perry dominates at that debate, and whom he destroys as a reflex of power. Obama and his cronies have already announced that they will do no less, no matter the price, no matter the method.
Posted by: DaveO at September 02, 2011 01:46 PM (6Xx4j)
GOP insider's poll
If you can't count on the support of Fred Barnes and Dana Perino, you might as well drop out and avoid the obvious outcome.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at September 02, 2011 01:46 PM (dWPyO)
Posted by: Fritz at September 02, 2011 01:46 PM (YhI7X)
Rick Perry’s latest fundraising appeal looks to raise some money off President Obama’s golf game. In an email to supporters Thursday, Rob Johnson, Perry’s campaign manager, asked potential donors to open their pocketbooks to the amount of $76 — exactly the number of rounds of golf Obama has played since entering the White House.
“In honor of his prodigious golf habit, I ask you to donate $76 today – a dollar for each round of golf Obama has played since becoming president,” Johnson wrote.
A golfing theme exists throughout the donation request email, tying ObamaÂ’s handling of the economy to a round of golf.
“31 months, 12 days and 76 rounds of golf later, we still await the president’s plan to create jobs. Or, more precisely, his next plan following the failed stimulus that spent our children’s inheritance, exploded the debt and led to greater unemployment. Now the president wants a mulligan,” Johnson wrote in the email.
“Help us yell a pre-emptive ‘fore’ before the president takes a three-iron to the economy and makes matters worse.”
Well played, governor.
Posted by: ugknown at September 02, 2011 01:46 PM (YUwuZ)
Plus Rats and flies in the white house. Coincidence? I think not.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 02, 2011 01:46 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, POWER RACIST at September 02, 2011 01:47 PM (0yt4x)
Posted by: Kawfy at September 02, 2011 01:49 PM (2trrN)
Posted by: steevy at September 02, 2011 01:49 PM (1Nzoh)
Posted by: muffy a oddington III at September 02, 2011 01:51 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 02, 2011 05:46 PM (4nfy2)
They smell carrion.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 02, 2011 01:51 PM (Y4pHE)
Yep. At this point I vote for Putin over Obama. They both have the same corrupt ethics but at least Putin does cool shit like harpoon whales and stand around shirtless. (Although that Harley tricycle was super-phag.)
Posted by: Dang at September 02, 2011 01:52 PM (TXKVh)
restraining the personality and just projecting a smooth fluency with policy and principle.
Yeah. That sounds like Perry.
Shorter Ace: Rick Perry should pretend to be Tim Pawlenty.
Whatevs, we'll see... I doubt he listens to you, however it breaks down. He can't win by pretending to be the reverse of everything that's ever worked for him.
Posted by: Entropy at September 02, 2011 01:52 PM (KeJbA)
Posted by: cherry pi at September 02, 2011 01:52 PM (OhYCU)
Insurgent candidates are viewed as scrappy/ novelties when they go all bombastic/pointed and off the cuff.
Front runners, (which Perry is at the moment) look threatened or like a bully.
Alpha dogs play it cool and don't sweat the small stuff...... stuff like Mittens and especially Bachmann.
Perry I hope has a few good, solid one liners in mind, and other than that plays it close to the vest and dare I say, conservative.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at September 02, 2011 01:52 PM (dWPyO)
Posted by: muffy a oddington III at September 02, 2011 01:53 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: cherry pi at September 02, 2011 01:55 PM (OhYCU)
I think that you might be looking at this wrong, Ace.
What? You want Perry to model his candidacy after Tim Pawlenty's?
Why?
C. Krauthammer recently opined similarly and suggested that Reagan won the middle by communicating policy and not relying on charisma.
I was only 8 years old in 1980, but I think that that K-Hammers take on Reagan, is absolute, pundit hindsight 20/20, bullshit.
I understand that we need the low-info, actually watches The Real House Whores of Wherever and Jesey Shore mushy middle.
Suddenly these super geniuses are all policy wonks and will be turned off by some confidence and charm?
These are the same Luntz dunces that needed "more information" in September 2008?
Bite me.
Most of those idiots were, in fact, actually charmed by the most reptillian political figure to come along since Nixon.
I'm not saying I want to see Rick Perry chopper in whilst gunning down a feral hog but if HE, as a big Governor, can't raise an eybrow about Big Government and it's folly, then who can?
Posted by: Deety at September 02, 2011 01:56 PM (tydO9)
Posted by: Beefy Meatball at September 02, 2011 05:53 PM (bZ8J6)
I've got one: Say knock knock.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 02, 2011 01:56 PM (0N5pL)
Posted by: cherry pi at September 02, 2011 01:56 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Kawfy at September 02, 2011 01:56 PM (2trrN)
Posted by: muffy a oddington III at September 02, 2011 01:56 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, POWER RACIST at September 02, 2011 01:57 PM (p/mfs)
Posted by: Vercingetorix at September 02, 2011 01:57 PM (psCad)
Maybe?
Posted by: Dang at September 02, 2011 01:57 PM (TXKVh)
You want Perry to model his candidacy after Tim Pawlenty's?
TPaw was/is viewed fairly or not, as a milquetoast.
Perry is decidedly not. Iow, Perry can play down his obvious strengths and not lose anything.
This is called campaign strategy. Really they all do it.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at September 02, 2011 01:59 PM (dWPyO)
Posted by: Rick Fucking Perry at September 02, 2011 01:59 PM (fj/P0)
I didn't buy gold, there were alternatives.
Posted by: muffy a oddington III at September 02, 2011 02:01 PM (k1rwm)
You didn't heed my advice my dear. You're a walking party faux pas. You do realize you didn't get an invitation to this party? Why do you insist on staying? Mind your manners young lady. You're really acting in poor form right now.
ps...your lasagna? Just terrible. Awful stuff.
pss...ladies don't post porn.
Posted by: Emily Post at September 02, 2011 02:01 PM (pLTLS)
Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and listen to the lamentation of their hairy-armpitted women.
But wait until the election is over and the hall is cleaned up before you draw dicks on his forehead with a Sharpie.
Posted by: sifty at September 02, 2011 02:02 PM (4CSeG)
Putin reminds me of that old spice commercial guy...waiting to see Putin shirtless on the white horse next Posted by: Kawfy
It ain't white, but I knew he'd done something close enough.
Posted by: Dang at September 02, 2011 02:02 PM (TXKVh)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, POWER RACIST at September 02, 2011 02:03 PM (p/mfs)
I partied with him, along with the owner of the nightclub I was managing and a half dozen cocktail waitresses, one night after closing up the club.
He seemed to have use the head a lot...but then he pissed off the stern.
Confusing, isn't it?
Posted by: beedubya at September 02, 2011 02:03 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Rick Perry is...just making a point at September 02, 2011 02:03 PM (9CM5J)
Obama : Knock, knock
Rick Fucking Perry : Who's there?
Obama : It's me, your president.
Rick Fucking Perry : Release the hounds!
Posted by: Rick Fucking Perry at September 02, 2011 02:04 PM (fj/P0)
Posted by: muffy a oddington III at September 02, 2011 06:01 PM (k1rwm)
You mean like cheap liquor?
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 02, 2011 02:04 PM (Y4pHE)
I guess I'm not seeing what we should be afraid of.
Does Perry seem likely to have a Howard Dean (YEARGHHH!) scream moment?
If so I need to be appraised.
As for playing down his obvious strenghts, I would submit that what is obvious to you and I, are not so clear to others.
SCOAMF
Posted by: Deety at September 02, 2011 02:11 PM (tydO9)
If this is how he is (swaggering and joking and such) then I would prefer he act that way now, rather than waiting to do so when we cannot do anything about it.
Posted by: Miss Marple at September 02, 2011 02:11 PM (Fo83G)
Wow..srsly??
I have to say he was a pretty cool, down to Earth guy
Posted by: beedubya at September 02, 2011 02:12 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Chicken Soup for the Homely Spinster Soul epub at September 02, 2011 02:12 PM (p/mfs)
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2011 02:12 PM (GULKT)
Dirty Sanchez really WAS a drug money launderer from Laredo, and it was a disgrace that the Dems let him buy the nomination. He spent a HUGE amount of money trying to win the governor's race - in the end, not only did he lose badly, he spent $19 for every vote he DID get!
So that's where all your drug money went, ya cokeheads.
Posted by: tom servo at September 02, 2011 02:16 PM (T1boi)
Posted by: John Elway at September 02, 2011 06:16 PM (bZ8J6)
I like the cut of your jib John.
(Elway is a Republican btw.)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at September 02, 2011 02:18 PM (dWPyO)
Posted by: Lying Troll Twats of New York Audiobook at September 02, 2011 02:19 PM (p/mfs)
Rick Fucking Perry: Knock knock
Odrama: Who's there?
Rick Fucking Perry: Fuck.
Odrama: Fuck who?
Rick Fucking Perry: FUCK YOU!
Posted by: Dang at September 02, 2011 02:19 PM (TXKVh)
Let Rick be Rick.
Ace is probably right that this poses a serious threat because people tend to make up their minds really fast about people, and the MSM will spin whatever way possible to help. But over the long haul, if Rick can beat Obama, he's probably going to do it on his authentic personality.
Mitt's been running for Prez for 5-6 years now, and it really shows. That perfect poise, voice, mannerism... that's all focus grouped and perfected. I imagine he's practiced debates hundreds of times while Rick was actually... doing something productive.
Rick has no hope of out-acting romney. He can only out-be him.
Posted by: Dustin at September 02, 2011 02:20 PM (fF625)
Posted by: CaveJohnson at September 02, 2011 02:24 PM (qZD43)
Ace I don't agree with you, this time.
Example-
There ya go again...
Ronnie slapped Jimmy right on the pecker, the best!
Posted by: gdonovan at September 02, 2011 02:29 PM (BVvbR)
Posted by: Keating Willcox at September 02, 2011 02:33 PM (zsyG/)
Posted by: snowcrash at September 02, 2011 02:43 PM (T/g1q)
I think Rick Perry will do just fine.... Really.
Romney could have little pissy fits and call him ridiculous names.... And Perry would just blow him a kiss, like he did in Iowa.
Bachmann could have a meltdown and call Perry a gay devil from hell.... And Perry would just blink, and smile, and shake it off.
Ron Paul could start spewing every Alex Jones one-liner that pops into his little brain.... And Perry would just shoot him with an air bullet out of his index finger.
Perry will be fine.
Don't sweat it.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at September 02, 2011 02:46 PM (nn45z)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at September 02, 2011 04:57 PM (nxptv)
I liked Palin. She was new, she talked a good game, she had charisma.
I wan't sure about the experience part. She then quit as governor of Alaska (pop. 500,000). I thought this was problematic. Her efforts afterward have not filled me with a great confidence she's up to the task.
If she wants in fine, awesome. Get in and criticize away (I don't know at what, Perry has the same ideology except he's actually been doing it). But her staying on the outside of the tent pissing in is beginning to fray any attachment I had for her. I can see the campaign commercial Obama will run against Perry with Sarah criticizing him before the "TOO EXTREME FOR PALIN" in block quotes. Frankly, what she's doing now with the soap opra drama is counterproductive not only to the party, but to the conservative movement itself....... Posted by: Jollyroger at September 02, 2011 05:03 PM (NCw5u)
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Yeah, Jollyroger. You have nailed it nicely right there.
All this full out carnage towards Perry coming from the Palin camp is really disgusting. The stink is splashing back all over her too.
She never should have started it. It is backfiring on her now, and only making people dig deeper into what Perry is all about.......and people are liking what they find!
Palin cannot run from this bad behavior either. It is all on...*her*.... Her operatives are doing her bidding. And doing the work of the 'lamestream media' for them. Palin of all people should remember how her poll numbers went up when she was relentlessly attacked. But apparently she has forgotten that.
If Palin attacks Perry tomorrow...it will only make her look worse. If she continues with this worn-thin meme of hers that she is "waiting for a good solid conservative to get in this race".....then she fails some more, because Rick Perry is that person.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at September 02, 2011 03:01 PM (nn45z)
I agree with Ace. Perry needs to look serious and presidential, not like one of the boys at a tailgate.
If he hits his Repub opponents the hits should be on widely known misteps, like Romneycare. Don't go after Bachman since he's already taken half of her supporters. Ignore Ron Paul except to agree that the Fed has been politicized.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Ghost at September 02, 2011 03:37 PM (2RAUv)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at September 02, 2011 03:51 PM (f8XyF)
Posted by: steve poling at September 02, 2011 03:55 PM (zJs4Y)
Who sez?
Posted by: Deety at September 02, 2011 03:59 PM (tydO9)
You've seen them - headless - just holds up the suit and pants.
Get it... Empty Suit
Conduct a debate with important issues and pan over to the Empty Suit for his opinion.
Put a teleprompter in front of it, flash PRESENT every now and then.
Let me eat my waffle
On Vacation
etc etc.
Posted by: Noble at September 02, 2011 04:10 PM (XhMRT)
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at September 02, 2011 05:24 PM (Lt/Za)
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The Vinegarroon? LOL!
Posted by: Pecos at September 02, 2011 04:31 PM (2Gb0y)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at September 02, 2011 04:48 PM (dbYHP)
297:
Shhh, be quiet! You might wake them. Yes, to all of the Palin trolls, she quit halfway through her first term. Like it or not that is her record; Period! Deal with it, end of story. If Governor Palin starts sniping at Governor Perry like her cultists then she becomes about as serious a contender for POTUS as Ron Paul. She should back a candidate or step up to the plate and throw some skin into the game. I think that she missed her chance and were she to get on board now and attack Governor Perry she would be seen as shrill and bitter. Hey look at me! Hey, hey I'm over here! Do you see me? Look at me! I think it's too late for her anyway, but hey; Think of the entertainment value we'ld get from her supporters on this blog and others attacking Governor Perry. I can hear it now: Governor Perry conspired with the establishment elitists to keep Governor palin out of the the debates.
Posted by: Ron at September 02, 2011 04:52 PM (g+yPx)
I have seen some posters who purport to be Palin supporters making snarky comments, but since the dems like to stir up disinformation, I figure at least half of those are democrat concern trolls and/or disruptors.
I have seen lots of "crony capitalism" charges from the MSM who SAY that this is from Palin, but why anyone believes them I don't know.
Why not wait and see what she says tomorrow?
Posted by: Miss Marple at September 02, 2011 05:08 PM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at September 02, 2011 05:17 PM (dbYHP)
307:
Well said. I can't help but be defensive when I hear some of the crap coming from this blog and others. I hear the same thing coming from SarahPac and Atlas. I still stand by my assertion that she is better off as a pundit than a candidate. She can play a role in the shaping of the future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement. But as a candidate she's had her chance and her time has passed.
Posted by: Ron at September 02, 2011 05:20 PM (g+yPx)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at September 02, 2011 05:23 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Palin Fan at September 02, 2011 09:21 PM (hKi42)
Why aren't you banned yet?
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2011 05:23 PM (GULKT)
There is a forum in Columbia South Carolina on Labor Day (3-5:30 Eastern) that will be televised on CNN where Perry (+ Romney, Bachmann, Paul, Cain, & Gingrich) will be answering questions (on primarily social issues) from Senator DeMint, Congressman King, & Prof. Robert George.
Full disclosure: my wife works for American Principles Project which is helping put together said forum.
Posted by: Simon Oliver Lockwood at September 02, 2011 05:24 PM (23iM4)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at September 02, 2011 09:23 PM (dbYHP)
She won't. That troll is a dumbass. The invites were already sent out to all those that were invited to attend, and even if she qualified for an invitation, there was likely a time to respond by for it.
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2011 05:25 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at September 02, 2011 05:25 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at September 02, 2011 05:28 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: buzzion at September 02, 2011 05:30 PM (GULKT)
Either they are candidates or not. Either she will run and we will see if she is good, or she won't
Perry wil either do fine in the debate or he won't.
Why people feel the need to insult one or the other is mysterious to me. Direct that anger towards the source of the country's misery: Obama!
For goodness sakes, you gripers are really self-defeating as far as the GOP goes. Assuming, of course, that you are actually Republicans and not pot-stirrers from the left.
Posted by: Miss Marple at September 02, 2011 05:33 PM (Fo83G)
324 Miss Marple:
The vitriole coming from the Palinistas and Paulbots has been so outrageous that one has to wonder if it's for real or not. I happen to think a lot of it is coming from those two camps because I see a lot of those same comments on SarahPac, Atlas and MM and we all know that MM and PG are big on Governor Palin and her potential run and have made plainly their feelings about Governor Perry.
Posted by: Ron at September 02, 2011 05:42 PM (g+yPx)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at September 02, 2011 05:43 PM (dbYHP)
Iy's become DUKE and DUKE HQ.all that's missing is the gorilla and the cage. Different strategy for a primary than a general. Look at the primary against Hutchinson, or the run against Strayhorn of the crazy McClellan clan (we were warned) Adios Mofo doesn't really work as an answer, try 'Bless their heart' which has the same connotation.
Posted by: captain smith at September 02, 2011 05:54 PM (1kwr2)
Posted by: CMU VET at September 02, 2011 06:20 PM (m+0Zk)
Posted by: Unmeasured Strength AudioBook at September 02, 2011 06:34 PM (5VWTg)
That's just it. We know for a fact that Obama's people conduct astroturf. It's not wild eyed or anything. they really do that. Furthermore, we know a ton of loser lefties with no real coordination also play moby, posing as a conservative to stir trouble. Some are probably kinda slick, and some are just going for broke nasty.
Then there's the potential one of the Republican candidates has supporters who are passive aggressive enough to take out two birds with one stone. Slander Candidate A posing as affiliated with Candidate B, and Candidate C looks clean.
The only lesson is simply to not take anybody at face value. If someone has a good argument, with good basis, great. But even then you can't hold them to be on the 'side' they claim to be on until you know them over a long period of time.
One thing about liberals is they are too stupid, 99% of the time, to pose as a thoughtful conservative. If they understood our POV they would agree we're right. That's why 'palin fan' sounds so stupid.
Posted by: Dustin at September 02, 2011 09:42 PM (fF625)
Posted by: Ken Royall at September 02, 2011 11:00 PM (9zzk+)
This is unlikely to require any special approach or effort.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at September 03, 2011 12:40 AM (dr4y0)
Posted by: Jordan at September 03, 2011 01:04 AM (4z6KA)
Posted by: Mac Gootbone at September 03, 2011 04:38 AM (XCSw/)
Don't tell your grandma how to suck eggs.
Posted by: J. Moses Browning at September 03, 2011 08:10 AM (qONFT)
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Why is he getting snotty when he supported TARP himself? Most of the candidates up there did at the time. And the truth is TARP is not what is driving the deficit today anyway, it is paid back. Perry does not need to get cute when his own record is spotty.
He needs to worry about his immigration record..which Romney is already hitting him on..and some of the stuff he said in his book about medicaid and medicare and social security. I do think people want to see smaller government, but by that they mean fewer rules and regs and bureaucrats, they don't necessarily mean an end to entitlements. He needs to flesh out his ideas in a coherent way and stop with the cracks and the one liners and the off hand remarks.
And this style has not only served Perry all that well in Texas either, last I heard his approval rating was 42%. There are real divisions among Republicans there and Democrats hate the guy.
Posted by: Terrye at September 03, 2011 09:29 AM (SkhDW)
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Posted by: NIKE SNEAKERS at September 04, 2011 07:02 PM (JuOdO)
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