March 30, 2011
— Ace In Delaware, where they'd once fought such horrible burdens, they now support them.
In Delaware, where Gosnell was also known to perform his gruesome practices, even Democrats have introduced such legislation. Shockingly, they insist that the primary purpose of their bill is to regulate podiatrists and dentists. There should be little doubt in peopleÂ’s minds that more human beings are killed by abortionists than foot doctors!Planned Parenthood in Delaware supports the legislation, which is a good indication they are on the ropes. While the legislation is part of GosnellÂ’s legacy, Kermit Gosnell himself is a legacy of Planned Parenthood, which fought against this type of legislation in Pennsylvania and other states. Had such legislation been enacted, Gosnell would have been behind bars years ago.
It's useful to compare the Democrats' position here to their general position on regulation of any other industry.
No matter what the regulation is, they generally support it (except in one case). They always seem to think that government regulations, inspections, and paperwork-compliance creates a better, more hygienic, and more moral industry.
Except here. In this one case, they find regulation, inspection, and paperwork-compliance unduly burdensome.
In the case of one industry and one industry only, they accept the general GOP brief that government interference is burdensome and saps the vitality of an industry.
With abortion, they support the sort of hardcore "Wild West" strong-form libertarian laissez-faire let-people-work-it-out-and-let-the-market-decide regime they decry as "extremist" in any other context.
It seems that there's only one industry where they are comfortable pursuing this growth-at-all-costs strategy.
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Posted by: EC at March 30, 2011 07:58 AM (GQ8sn)
Posted by: nickless at March 30, 2011 07:59 AM (ZHZdZ)
Posted by: Evil libertarian at March 30, 2011 07:59 AM (XV/Eq)
There should be little doubt in peopleÂ’s minds that more human beings are killed by abortionists than foot doctors!
... and Rug Doctors!
Posted by: FireHorse at March 30, 2011 08:00 AM (k3RPu)
Posted by: Evil libertarian at March 30, 2011 08:00 AM (XV/Eq)
I think part of the reason the Dems couldn't even defend Gosnell in any way is because he was making a freaking fortune off of the abortions.
I think they said he was making 1.8 million a year. So they couldn't play the oh-our-abortion-mills-are-underfunded card in this case.
It was clear that this guy was cutting all costs and acting illegally which resulting in the deaths of at least 7 women and countless babies.
Posted by: Ben at March 30, 2011 08:03 AM (wuv1c)
This is completely false. Let me be clear, we need to put a stop to all those doctors who will amputate your feet and take out your tonsils, just to pad the insurance bill.
Posted by: Teh Won at March 30, 2011 08:03 AM (3nrx7)
This is what I gleaned from the article.
Posted by: Liberal douchebag at March 30, 2011 08:03 AM (pdRb1)
You lie! You lie! Diabetes feet amputations go horribly wrong!
Posted by: president o'bumbles at March 30, 2011 08:04 AM (/wCSE)
Posted by: Michelle (O) at March 30, 2011 08:05 AM (kb0wl)
Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama, moderate at March 30, 2011 08:05 AM (ZHZdZ)
Actually, you are giving them too much credit.
They support abortion because they personally don't want to be "burdened" with children and because they believe the untermenschen are having too many children and hurting baby Gaia.
Posted by: 18-1 at March 30, 2011 08:07 AM (7BU4a)
That doesn't sound very convincing, I think we need a different argument. How about abortion, it's for the chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiildren!!!!
Posted by: Liberal douchebag at March 30, 2011 08:10 AM (pdRb1)
"A pro-life group that monitors the use of cells from babies victimized by abortions is today highlighting a biotech company, Senomyx, which it says produces artificial flavor enhancers using aborted fetal cell lines to test their
The group Children of God for Life is calling for a public boycott of major food companies partnering with Senomyx.
Debi Vinnedge, the director of the pro-life organization, tells LifeNews.com today that, in 2010, her group wrote to Senomyx CEO Kent Snyder and pointed out that moral options for testing their food additives could and should be used. But when Senomyx ignored her letter, the group wrote to the companies Senomyx listed on their website as “collaborators” warning them of public backlash and threatened boycott. They included food giants PepsiCo, Kraft Foods, Campbell Soup, Solae and Nestlé. (See update below.)
“The company’s key flavor programs focus on the discovery and development of savory, sweet and salt flavor ingredients that are intended to allow for the reduction of MSG, sugar and salt in food and beverage products,” the Senomyx web site says. “Using isolated human taste receptors, we created proprietary taste receptor-based assay systems that provide a biochemical or electronic readout when a flavor ingredient interacts with the receptor.”
My understanding is that Campbell has now severed ties with Senomyx but the others have not.
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 30, 2011 08:11 AM (LfDQC)
And in Canada (specifically Ontario) private, for-profit abortion clinics that charge twice as much for an abortion as the provincially-mandated fee that they're supposed to charge are allowed to operate even though it is a 'service' available in hospitals, but if you wanted to open a private, for-profit dialysis clinic that only bills the same fee that a hospital charges "Medicare" for dialysis (and not twice as much), your dialysis clinic will be closed down because that's a "bad" private clinic.
Posted by: andycanuck at March 30, 2011 08:13 AM (/wCSE)
Posted by: Kang at March 30, 2011 08:14 AM (gMAsu)
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Posted by: Unf-ingbelievable at March 30, 2011 08:15 AM (EXsuU)
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Posted by: Liberal with a contradiction-caused headache at March 30, 2011 08:17 AM (ZHZdZ)
In the case of one industry and one industry only, they accept the general GOP brief that government interference is burdensome and saps the vitality of an industry.
With abortion, they support the sort of hardcore "Wild West" strong-form libertarian laissez-faire let-people-work-it-out-and-let-the-market-decide regime they decry as "extremist" in any other context.
Contrast with their general position vis a vis other medical matters. Take, for example, their support for the FDA as against the drug companies. Abortion is both a mundane, unexceptional medical procedure, or extraordinary and sui generis, depending upon the rhetorical or legal situation.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at March 30, 2011 08:17 AM (IVQSY)
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Posted by: sven at March 30, 2011 08:18 AM (c8oxP)
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Posted by: nickless at March 30, 2011 08:19 AM (ZHZdZ)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 30, 2011 08:20 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Margaret Sanger at March 30, 2011 08:21 AM (yQWNf)
Great post. That should leave a mark. But it won't because the ends justify any means or hypocrisy to the know-it-all for-your-own-good Left.
@32 FBIT (funny because it's true)
Posted by: Beagle at March 30, 2011 08:21 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff al-Amriki at March 30, 2011 08:22 AM (TATbF)
I think part of the reason the Dems couldn't even defend Gosnell in any way is because he was making a freaking fortune off of the abortions.
My local lib radio host compared Gosnell to one of those sicko nurses who kills patients. He ignored the fact, of course, that the sicko nurses are sick while Gosnell was totally sane and killed for profit.
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 30, 2011 08:22 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff al-Amriki at March 30, 2011 12:22 PM (TATbF)
Not to mention the affects on Plate Techtonics!
Posted by: Iranian Imam at March 30, 2011 08:23 AM (gMAsu)
Frakking. Seriously?
Link or I call BS. And even then I need to read this thing. The very concept of something that creeps so near, well, cannibalism could go into such wide use is mind-boggling, even by current standards.
Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at March 30, 2011 08:24 AM (GBXon)
It is an evil the likes of which this country has never seen before and hopefully will never see again.
Posted by: tcn at March 30, 2011 08:25 AM (QuGK2)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff al-Amriki at March 30, 2011 12:22 PM (TATbF)
And a big ol' hair flip to you, sahib.
Posted by: Museisluse at March 30, 2011 08:26 AM (xrmna)
you forgot their earthquake causing tits.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at March 30, 2011 08:26 AM (6IReR)
I don't think we're eating aborted baby cells. It sounds like they use them for product testing. Not that I think that is OK, but I was a bit freaked out when I started reading that they were using aborted baby cells for flavoring.
And I am seriously puzzled how they can get what they need from aborted babies to create the artificial taste receptors, at what age in the womb do those form?
So, I'm going to go with mostly a ginned up outrage unless I see more facts.
Posted by: ParanoidAnxietyGirlInSeattle at March 30, 2011 08:28 AM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at March 30, 2011 08:28 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff al-Amriki at March 30, 2011 08:28 AM (+61wI)
you forgot their earthquake causing tits.
Can I get me some Federal Grant Monies to study these earthquake causing boobies???
Posted by: lemmiwinks at March 30, 2011 08:29 AM (pdRb1)
Frakking. Seriously?
Link or I call BS. And even then I need to read this thing. The very concept of something that creeps so near, well, cannibalism could go into such wide use is mind-boggling, even by current standards.
Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at March 30, 2011 12:24 PM (GBXon)
I'm too lazy to tinyurl it, but go to National Review Online The Corner and they have a short story with links to better stories.
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 30, 2011 08:30 AM (LfDQC)
Posted by: Holdfast at March 30, 2011 08:30 AM (Gzb30)
Can I get me some Federal Grant Monies to study these earthquake causing boobies???
I propose a vigorous, hands-on examination of this issue. Understand that this is a complex subject and numerous studies may be needed. We shouldn't let that deter us in any way.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at March 30, 2011 08:33 AM (d0Tfm)
cannibalism
Already there. What else do we call consuming parts of another human (fetal stem cell "therapy") in order to live.
Posted by: kdny at March 30, 2011 08:33 AM (3j6OS)
"KEEP YOUR LAWS OFF OF MY BODY!!!"
Posted by: Planned Sodomy at March 30, 2011 08:33 AM (pdRb1)
Posted by: WalrusRex at March 30, 2011 12:11 PM (LfDQC)
Cursory reading reveals they are using the cells to 'test' not 'flavor'.
Besides, everyone knows stem cells taste like synthetic watermelon...nobody likes that.
Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2011 08:34 AM (gMAsu)
Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at March 30, 2011 12:28 PM (GBXon)
well, he's not eating. "I will not be eating" but he's " Fired up!
and Ready to go!"
Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 08:34 AM (k1rwm)
I don't think we're eating aborted baby cells. It sounds like they use them for product testing. Not that I think that is OK, but I was a bit freaked out when I started reading that they were using aborted baby cells for flavoring.
And I am seriously puzzled how they can get what they need from aborted babies to create the artificial taste receptors, at what age in the womb do those form?
So, I'm going to go with mostly a ginned up outrage unless I see more facts.
Posted by: ParanoidAnxietyGirlInSeattle at March 30, 2011 12:28 PM (RZ8pf)
Yeah, to me it sounded like they were taking taste receptors, seeing how they react to certain tastes, and then testing other products to get the same signal reaction off them.
Posted by: buzzion at March 30, 2011 08:35 AM (oVQFe)
OT-
I need someone to follow me around 24/7 and stop me from ever seeing Obama talk about energy ever again. 'Cause O...M...G...
He starts off, by talking about how there were all there ideas being put forward during his presidential election, like "Drill, Baby, Drill" - and then derisively points out how none of that happened. (When he and his political allies were in charge!!!!) Then he talks about how proud he is about the progress HIS administration has made toward energy independence!! (Huh?) Without actually outlining what any of this progress actually consisted of. Then pointed fingers at government "inertia" for why not much has happened (after just claiming he was proud of the progress).
THEN, he talks about how our greatest energy resource is "in our own back yard" (wait for it...) - "our ingenuity!" I expected that to lead into a call for "green energy", but it really didn't. Instead, he actually proclaimed the inevitability of using more oil, and that we would have to produce more domestically. (Huh? This is after making fun of "Drill, Baby, Drill", remember!!!)
He said these new ingenious methods of producing more oil domestically would take a long time (beyond even the president after him), but then proclaimed the goal of reducing our dependence by 1/3 in ten years (the time-period he just said that we wouldn't have the answer in yet). All while lamenting about how every persident since Nixon claims that they're going to do something, but don't.
He gave no actual plan for accomplishing the new goal, and - to a degree that shocked even me - and I have real low expectations - lied his f-ing ass off about how he hadn't essentially shut down offshore drilling in the Gulf. For cryin' out loud, I've seen the unemployed oil workers interviewed, and heard about the irreplacable deep water rigs that have left - permanently.
Posted by: Optimizer at March 30, 2011 08:36 AM (2lTU+)
Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 08:37 AM (k1rwm)
OT-
Can't get it to link (Tinyurl is hating me), but the Palin just destroyed the Daily Caller on her FB page.
Posted by: Lincolntf at March 30, 2011 08:37 AM (xMT+4)
Posted by: Bill Maher at March 30, 2011 08:37 AM (tvs2p)
OK, went to the NRO links, I guess I can believe the company is doing this, but I still don't understand why. If you are creating artificial taste receptors, once you've figured out how, why would you need the cells anymore?
I guess I don't want to think about it too much because then it makes me wonder just how many other products use this kind of thing (skin care lines come to mind). Which then leads me to think, have there been people getting rich off abortions all these years because they sell the aborted tissue?
Posted by: ParanoidAnxietyGirlInSeattle at March 30, 2011 08:38 AM (RZ8pf)
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Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 30, 2011 08:38 AM (0q2P7)
hey hey hey we're fired up, and ready to go!!! come on don't be a party pooper get with he program bro!!!
All the networks realized at the same time that they were airing him at a campaign stop and pulled him cause I guess they are fearful that some dumb republican might come along and ask for equal time for the libya speech and this one. And really they would have no choice but to give it.
Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 08:39 AM (k1rwm)
Still following Sarah Pailin's lead.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 30, 2011 08:40 AM (pdRb1)
Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 08:41 AM (k1rwm)
Don't give a shit. Abortion is a moral evil and I refuse to take part in it in any way, shape or form.
Posted by: Holger at March 30, 2011 08:43 AM (YxGud)
Answer: YES
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 30, 2011 08:43 AM (pdRb1)
Which then leads me to think, have there been people getting rich off abortions all these years because they sell the aborted tissue?
"You're breaking my balls, here, Ma'am."
"These are quality aborted Fetuses I am offering you, hyah."
Posted by: Eric Cartman at March 30, 2011 08:43 AM (gMAsu)
Posted by: ParanoidAnxietyGirlInSeattle at March 30, 2011 12:38 PM (RZ8pf)
Short answer, yes. Is it not mind-numbing to think of what is being done with the corpses of these children? And it is defended all day long, because the Leftists have managed to convince enough brain-dead citizens that abortion is tied to the sexual liberation of women, and is nothing more than a wart removal process.
It's vital to the interest of the Left to keep abortion going strong. Same as with the 10-10 people; the only way for them to reach their goals is to exterminate a massive amount of the population. They have not yet been able to do this in the United States due to the populace being armed to the teeth, but they have devised other methods for putting a dent in the damage being dealt to Mother Gaia.
Fifty million in America alone since '73.
Reality is infinitely darker than fiction.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 30, 2011 08:44 AM (NzSVi)
maybe james can find out who planned parenthood cells their dead babies to, now that would be some expose.
Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 08:45 AM (k1rwm)
so is "using taste rectors to test flavors" not gruesome? Cause I'm thinking that we could all go down to the morgue and use the fat from the dead to make soap. Why waste it, right?
Posted by: kdny at March 30, 2011 08:45 AM (3j6OS)
<blockquote>I think part of the reason the Dems couldn't even defend Gosnell in any way is because he was making a freaking fortune off of the abortions.</blockquote>
To be fair, the oversight of Gosnell was relaxed under both Governors Ridge (Republican) and Rendell (Democrat) after Casey (ardent pro-life Democrat). They’re not defending Gosnell because defending him and their true moral views would keep the horror in the public eye to the extent that it has been in the public eye. They’re also not defending him –stating that it was ‘not abortion’ – to avoid the rather obvious fact that there is a mere legal distinction but no moral difference between what Gosnell did and procedures that they support as a matter of Constitutional right. The facts are that Gosnell held himself out to be a Doctor performing abortions, and he performed legal abortions routinely, and the women whose babies were murdered sought Gosnell to provide an abortion. Gosnell simply performed a kind of abortion procedure that lacked legal sanction among others which were quite legal, and the legal prohibitions for the kind of prohibited abortions performed by Gosnell are through no efforts of the feminists and Left. It was the very efforts of the Left and feminists and the implicit political threats that they wielded in Pennsylvania that made Gosnell possible under an umbrella of purposeful neglect.
If you read a feminist blog discussing abortion in any context not related to Gosnell, it is abundantly clear that the only moral question to be asked is whether the “host” currently welcomes her “parasite.” Once that question is answered, the matter has been definitively resolved. Their faux outrage at Gosnell is a simple, collective act of bad faith to the extent that he was mentioned at all.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at March 30, 2011 08:45 AM (IVQSY)
How does Rush attract some of these really stupid robot like callers?
Read the comments section of any Hot Air thread.
Stupid people are everywhere. The Dems don't have the market cornered on them, even if they have more than their fair share.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at March 30, 2011 08:45 AM (SY2Kh)
Is it not mind-numbing to think of what is being done with the corpses of these children?
I know.
Why buy when you can find perfectly good ones in the dumpster behind the bowling alley?
Posted by: garrett at March 30, 2011 08:47 AM (gMAsu)
Posted by: Berserker Probe 6794-233-156 at March 30, 2011 08:47 AM (Klxrr)
the sad part is that they ordered the bill board removed from times square and it was nothing but the truth.
I guess if people were actually to face the truth then it would make them very uncomfortable and we don't want them to be uncomfortable or to think actions have consequences and they have responsibility to their fellow citizens or anything cause well, that would just be messy and not pleasant and you know, they want to be pleasant.
Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 08:47 AM (k1rwm)
Seminar Callers? The radio equivalent of trolls? They actually have troll schools where they teach zombies to get past a call screener, get on the air, and then robotically repeat talking points at the host. Rush is pretty patient with them most of the time. Tries to get them out of their robot mode. Levin is not so patient with them. Rush has a whole parody made up for them.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at March 30, 2011 08:48 AM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Holger at March 30, 2011 08:48 AM (YxGud)
Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 12:41 PM (k1rwm)
Idiocy abounds.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at March 30, 2011 08:48 AM (6IReR)
That's Texas, New York, and Louisiana, with a million left over.
That's how many lives the "sexual revolution" has claimed.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 30, 2011 08:48 AM (NzSVi)
I understand Virginia was trying to do the same things and liberal heads were exploding. Is anybody here from VA and can give us an update?
Posted by: Ed Anger at March 30, 2011 08:49 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff al-Amriki at March 30, 2011 08:49 AM (g6nyw)
This is why I'm writing in "Empire of Jeff" in 2012.
Posted by: Ian S. at March 30, 2011 08:49 AM (cd11S)
"You're breaking my balls, here, Ma'am."
Posted by: Eric Cartman at March 30, 2011 12:43 PM (gMAsu)
Why yes, yes I am. However, I am doing it in such a manner that you will thanking me for providing you with such an incredible learning experience. Cheers!
Posted by: Woman who enjoys breaking your balls at March 30, 2011 08:50 AM (YVZlY)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 30, 2011 08:51 AM (pdRb1)
so is "using taste rectors to test flavors" not gruesome? Cause I'm thinking that we could all go down to the morgue and use the fat from the dead to make soap. Why waste it, right?
I'm not sciency, but it seems to me that taste receptors in humans develop and change over time. It's proven that the older you are the less you taste certain things. And why would cells from a dead person (baby or otherwise) still fire when stimulated? But, if they do, why would you want baby cells anyway? I would imagine, especially if you are testing products like soft drinks and sweets, that you'd want cells from around 18 years old. At that point, just get them from the dead who donate their organs, surely a tongue would be included in that list.
The whole thing strikes me as more of a "because we can." Assholes.
Posted by: ParanoidAnxietyGirlInSeattle at March 30, 2011 08:51 AM (RZ8pf)
Unless you're in Texas, even Jeff might want you to re-think that one.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at March 30, 2011 08:51 AM (IVQSY)
the sad part is that they ordered the bill board removed from times square and it was nothing but the truth.
I guess if people were actually to face the truth then it would make them very uncomfortable and we don't want them to be uncomfortable or to think actions have consequences and they have responsibility to their fellow citizens or anything cause well, that would just be messy and not pleasant and you know, they want to be pleasant.
Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 12:47 PM (k1rwm)
Indeed. As an acquaintance of mine once said, "it isn't murder because I can't see it," vis-a-vis abortion.
Out of sight, out of mind, and no responsibility. That's the American way in this era, and why I don't believe we will bounce back from the economic cliff. We haven't even the moral fortitude to stand up and scream "STOP!!!" over a literal mountain of infant corpses. How the flaming hell are we going to convince a majority of the population to sacrifice their government largesse?
Terminally boned.
Terminally.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 30, 2011 08:52 AM (NzSVi)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff al-Amriki at March 30, 2011 12:49 PM (g6nyw)
I want a front row ticket to watch that unfold.
Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at March 30, 2011 08:53 AM (YVZlY)
They said if I voted for McCain, women would be having unsafe, back-alley abortions--and they were right!
Posted by: DarkLord© channels RSM at March 30, 2011 08:53 AM (GBXon)
Civility is indeed dead. We're still flogging the horse, though.
Bring on the Apocalypse! It can only be an improvement over this slow death by degrees.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 30, 2011 08:54 AM (NzSVi)
Don't give a shit. Abortion is a moral evil and I refuse to take part in it in any way, shape or form.
Posted by: Holger at March 30, 2011 12:43 PM (YxGud)
Oh absolutely. I see no fucking reason stuff like this needs to be done with any human parts for testing. You know beside the fact that it would be "unethical" for them to utilize animals parts. Just remember that. There are people out there that would throw a major shit-fit if stuff like this was being done in the same manner with animals in place of aborted baby tissue.
Posted by: buzzion at March 30, 2011 08:54 AM (oVQFe)
There are times I think that this nation is beyond hope and the best course of action is to make it worse. That the only way to get a country we can call home is to burn our current one to the ground and rebuild.
Posted by: Holger at March 30, 2011 08:55 AM (YxGud)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 30, 2011 08:55 AM (SB0V2)
She said that about Joy??!?!?!?!?! Joy Behar????
Doesn't she know that she is only allowed to use that word when talking about Sarah???
/sarc
Could you imagine the outrage of someone actually called any of the women on the View, besides Hassleback, a c*nt? Ya know, women who actually are deserving of that sobriquet?
Posted by: wiserbud at March 30, 2011 08:56 AM (RkrQu)
Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 08:57 AM (k1rwm)
Just shore up what you can, build strong people and networks as seeds for the future. And pray we can rebuild our way, fast and strong enough, that the abominations they'll try to set up won't be able to carry the day.
Stage five. It may be time.
Posted by: DarkLord© channels RSM at March 30, 2011 08:57 AM (GBXon)
OMG momma was right, you watched the whole speech didn't you and now, now you are demoralized and ready to throw in the towel.
Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 08:59 AM (k1rwm)
Just shore up what you can, build strong people and networks as seeds for the future. And pray we can rebuild our way, fast and strong enough, that the abominations they'll try to set up won't be able to carry the day.
Stage five. It may be time.
Wow, and people call me pessimistic when I say that in the end, there will be only chaos.
/I agree more and more with this sentiment as the days progress.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 30, 2011 09:00 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 30, 2011 12:54 PM (NzSVi)
Saw this ex-CIA guy on TV who is always interesting even if you disagree with him. Bob Baer is not a political talking points spewer for the most part. He said exactly what a lot of us secular, skeptical people have been thinking, almost exactly quoting, "It looks like the end times out there."
NEW! IMPROVED! The End Times: not just for religious people any more!
Posted by: Beagle at March 30, 2011 09:00 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff al-Amriki at March 30, 2011 09:01 AM (g6nyw)
Sounds like my parents' sentiments back in 1978.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 30, 2011 09:01 AM (pdRb1)
Posted by: ya2daup at March 30, 2011 09:01 AM (o5Jcy)
There are times I think that this nation is beyond hope and the best course of action is to make it worse. That the only way to get a country we can call home is to burn our current one to the ground and rebuild.
Posted by: Holger at March 30, 2011 12:55 PM (YxGud)
I tried a variety of prefaces to this post, but nothing I wrote down seemed to correctly communicate how I feel.
In the end, all I can really say is that's how I feel, too. It pains me greatly - it frustrates the hell out of me, but I have stopped praying for mercy for the nation, and rather, have begun praying for it all to just happen already, so we can put things back together, and get it right.
It grieves me to realize that we've arrived at such a point in history. But watch; we will see still more madness when all of this comes apart.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 30, 2011 09:01 AM (NzSVi)
I was thinking about this the other day. All legalizing abortion did was take the back-alley guys, give them white coats, and legitimize them. I think most legitimate doctors, even pro-choice ones, personally do not ever want to be involved in this field.
I would guess that a lot of these guys either were flunkies out of med schools, graduated from dubious med schools, or have very mixed records in medical practice which lead them to go into this field.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 30, 2011 09:04 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: MJH at March 30, 2011 09:04 AM (kBLec)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff al-Amriki at March 30, 2011 09:04 AM (g6nyw)
Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 09:05 AM (k1rwm)
OK, for everyone feeling depressed right now, go watch the babies having a conversation that's linked in the sidebar. It will make you laugh. They really are having a conversation and their hand movements show just how much babies learn through imitating the adults around them.
Posted by: ParanoidAnxietyGirlInSeattle at March 30, 2011 09:05 AM (RZ8pf)
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Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 09:07 AM (k1rwm)
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Posted by: polynikes at March 30, 2011 09:08 AM (iRWGZ)
Posted by: ya2daup: an iMpeded iPost courtesy of an iPhone at March 30, 2011 09:09 AM (o5Jcy)
I feel sorry for all our brave young men and women who died in Iraq and Afghanistan. They went because their country told them to, they paid the price for Freedom and the country they did it for isn't worth two fistfuls of shit.
Why should anyone fight and die for a Country that looks more and more like Rome as she spiraled down the toilet bowl of debauchery, decadence and depravity?
Posted by: Holger at March 30, 2011 09:09 AM (YxGud)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 30, 2011 09:10 AM (SB0V2)
Posted by: DarkLord© channels RSM at March 30, 2011 12:57 PM (GBXon)
I'm right there with you, sir.
@ Empire of Jeff @ 109, it would be, because it would be a vivid image for them. All men know right from wrong; this is why they scream and screech and threaten whenever the matter is brought up, because they know, whether or not they admit it, that they are soaked in the blood of innocents. I daresay such an action might destroy a liberal brain.
Saw this ex-CIA guy on TV who is always interesting even if you disagree with him. Bob Baer is not a political talking points spewer for the most part. He said exactly what a lot of us secular, skeptical people have been thinking, almost exactly quoting, "It looks like the end times out there."
NEW! IMPROVED! The End Times: not just for religious people any more!
Posted by: Beagle at March 30, 2011 01:00 PM (sOtz/)
I'm not sure if it is indeed the End Times, but damn, that would be an even bigger improvement.
I mean, hell, I know it sounds grim, but when you wake up in the morning and think, "Fuck, I live in a country where we have slain fifty million of our own, then stand with our chin uplifted about how bloody humanitarian we are. Why the hell does no one see the hypocrisy?"
I just can't... I mean, i don't even know how to feel about it all anymore. Is it even worth fighting what we all know is essentially inevitable, this ruination of America's wealth and power? The way this country is heading, it will only get worse, and worse, until we have adopted every facet of Communism, as they said decades ago, under the banner of socialism.
Better to get it over with, isn't it, and rebuild?
Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 30, 2011 09:10 AM (NzSVi)
@21
"...Using isolated human taste receptors, we created proprietary taste receptor-based assay systems that provide a biochemical or electronic readout when a flavor ingredient interacts with the receptor..."
Skynet will be able to taste us.
Posted by: Beagle at March 30, 2011 09:11 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 30, 2011 09:12 AM (yQWNf)
So if a mother tries to drown her five year old, we should let her, because she's a bad mother?
As for the second part...you can't say what an unborn person's views would be, and at any rate, we shouldn't sanction murder because of people's political views. I personally believe African Americans (and Americans in general) would be better off if such large numbers of babies weren't being unceremoniously killed.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 30, 2011 09:12 AM (TpXEI)
THEN, he talks about how our greatest energy resource is "in our own back yard" (wait for it...) - "our ingenuity!"
Actually, President Obama is right about this.
I have an entire computer set up with none of the components electrical requiring outlets. While at work, I keep one window open on this blog because Empire of Jeff's comments (and the ingenuity contained therein) literally power my monitor. My CPU runs on Obama's ideas, such as the one about making oil and other resources cheaper by not importing them anymore, but I have to retype their essence as DOS commands (it's an old computer). The printer derives its power from a pair of nickel-alloy plates I set up midway through a simple maze I devised for mice as they go after some leftover Halloween candy I leave for them. The plates collect energy from each mouse's ingenuity and a simple transformer boosts it to the voltage I need. The printer's toner comes from the same source, making use of the mice that don't make it out of the maze.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 30, 2011 09:12 AM (k3RPu)
indeed....
I don't get why everyone is so depressed....Bury lies the sky rains, teachers try to indoctrinate your kids but they ARE YOUR kids......
moonbats forgot to have babies in great numbers....the current malaise is self-correcting.....
it's why the moonbats are trying to import south america wholesale.
Posted by: sven at March 30, 2011 09:13 AM (c8oxP)
Posted by: MJH at March 30, 2011 09:13 AM (kBLec)
from your lips to god's ears.
Posted by: Berserker at March 30, 2011 09:13 AM (gWHrG)
I feel sorry for all our brave young men and women who died in Iraq and Afghanistan. They went because their country told them to, they paid the price for Freedom and the country they did it for isn't worth two fistfuls of shit.
Why should anyone fight and die for a Country that looks more and more like Rome as she spiraled down the toilet bowl of debauchery, decadence and depravity?
Posted by: Holger at March 30, 2011 01:09 PM (YxGud)
I don't have a good answer for that. I feel that way, too, and it makes me scream sometimes.
Bring on the Apocalypse. It can't be any worse than what we have now. Maybe we can fix things when it all goes to hell.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 30, 2011 09:14 AM (VMkqN)
Better to get it over with, isn't it, and rebuild?
Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 30, 2011 01:10 PM (NzSVi)
Not sure what that could mean or how it will happen. Right now I'm concerned about food prices, gas prices, whether kindergarten will go smoothly, ongoing Middle East civil wars, creeping sharia, the destruction on non-Muslim populations throughout the Muslim LandsTM and disturbingly uncontrolled fission in Japan.
Things don't really end and start over. Even the fall of the Roman Empire was just another barbarian humiliation in the overall scheme of things. That day it seemed like just another day.
Posted by: Beagle at March 30, 2011 09:16 AM (sOtz/)
Posted by: MJH at March 30, 2011 09:18 AM (kBLec)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 30, 2011 09:18 AM (eOXTH)
You are not born liberal. You are taught liberalism in high school and college. Most of my friends are very conservative but we were stupid liberals in college.
Here is one way to make a conservative: take one liberal college grad, give him a job that pays enough that he actually has to pay taxes, build credit score, buy a house (without government assistance), have kids, go to PTA meeting an realize how crazy your kids' teachers are, spend 2-3 hours per day teaching your kids what they should have learned in school but they couldn't because the teachers spend too much time on the kids who don't speak English........The list goes on but I was already conservative by the time I bought my house. I never really was liberal, I just thought I was because it was branded as the cool way to be in school.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 30, 2011 09:19 AM (pdRb1)
The important issue in any election is, which candidate supports the human right of womyn having full control over their basic bodily functions, such as diet, excercise, and fetal deadness.
All that other stuff, like the economy, foreign policy, government debt? Meh.
Posted by: Our Bodies, Ourselves at March 30, 2011 09:19 AM (w41GQ)
And I am seriously puzzled how they can get what they need from aborted babies to create the artificial taste receptors, at what age in the womb do those form?
So, I'm going to go with mostly a ginned up outrage unless I see more facts.
Posted by: ParanoidAnxietyGirlInSeattle at March 30, 2011 12:28 PM (RZ8pf)
Actually the whole story came out by accident. A former employee/researcher at Senomyx posted on Linkedn and happened to mention their use of HEK293(Human embryonic kidney cell line.) None of this would have come out if the guy hadn't matter of factly given himself and the company the credit. Just look up Alexey Pronin and follow the trail.
And Senomyx has come under fire for other issues too concerning their food additives. Senomyx has identified the receptors in the mouth responsible for sensing bitter taste (natureÂ’s way of warning us against ingesting poison) and developed a chemical additive to knock out these receptors..."
Posted by: Deanna at March 30, 2011 09:19 AM (VjcXC)
Posted by: Margaret Sanger at March 30, 2011 09:19 AM (yQWNf)
1. Not much for surrendering. Say what you will about the Japanese during WWII, I loved the fact that on the battlefield they'd rather die than surrender or loose.
2. The thought of EoJ's Day of the Rope scenario gives me a hard-on with an inescapable gravity well.
Posted by: Holger at March 30, 2011 09:19 AM (YxGud)
I have been thinking that for years. The whole fucking freedon thing is an illusion. We haven't been free for fucking years. There is not one area of life that is not regulated, taxed, or controlled.
Posted by: Berserker at March 30, 2011 09:24 AM (gWHrG)
Posted by: . at March 30, 2011 09:26 AM (k1rwm)
Better to get it over with, isn't it, and rebuild?
That sounds too close to those lefties who sound utopian one minute, then nihilist the next.
Remember what Bill Whittle said about The Remnant.
(can anyone find a link?)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 30, 2011 09:26 AM (QMtmy)
Actually, having strict standards for abortion clinics is a good idea.
(As long as they issue waivers to the right people.)
Posted by: FireHorse at March 30, 2011 09:28 AM (k3RPu)
The important issue in any election is, which candidate supports the human right of womyn having full control over their basic bodily functions, such as diet, excercise, and fetal deadness.
All that other stuff, like the economy, foreign policy, government debt? Meh.
Posted by: Our Bodies, Ourselves at March 30, 2011 01:19 PM (w41GQ)
You are so right. Does anyone here think Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer would have ever been elected if not for their abortion stance. Abortion has totally fucked up this country. This one issue has decided who a lot of our representatives are and probably 100% of who we have in the courts.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at March 30, 2011 09:29 AM (pdRb1)
Well then, let's make up a ceremony.
Posted by: ProblemSolved at March 30, 2011 09:32 AM (AtjNL)
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 30, 2011 09:33 AM (e11O8)
So your point is these children are better off dead than alive, but only if they aren't born yet and are outside their mother. If they were born, then we have a duty to protect them.
I could understand the position if you didn't believe a baby was alive until it magically exited the birth canal, but that isn't really your argument.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at March 30, 2011 09:35 AM (TpXEI)
Posted by: kdny at March 30, 2011 12:45 PM (3j6OS)
FIF the starving chillrun
Posted by: Josef K. at March 30, 2011 09:36 AM (7+pP9)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 30, 2011 01:26 PM (QMtmy)
I hear you, I'm just saying it's frustrating, and the odds actually do look insurmountable.
I don't know if it's defeatist to start planning for what happens when things go belly up, but that's where my thoughts linger these days.
Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 30, 2011 09:38 AM (VMkqN)
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 30, 2011 09:39 AM (e11O8)
Posted by: nerdygirl at March 30, 2011 09:41 AM (e11O8)
Posted by: KinleyArdal at March 30, 2011 01:38 PM (VMkqN)
I don't disagree. And I'm not normally an optimist.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 30, 2011 09:42 AM (QMtmy)
Because that is their strategy.
Don't let it work. Please.
The commie leftist bastids are doing Cloward/Piven on steroids.
We have the irritating, infuriating, unique obligation to get out of our comfort zones and actually DO THINGS with our TIME and MONEY that we DON'T LIKE because evil bastards are attempting to usurp our country and our way of life. I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't see any other place on the planet that is better, and therefore, worth fighting to change.
Does it piss me off? Yes.
But, is there really any other choice but to find ways to TAKE ACTION to combat the attempted coup? I have a few young kids in my extended family that are going to ask questions one day. I want to have some plausible, responsible reply to the inevitable question: what did you guys DO about it when all this was happening?
Posted by: NO NO NO at March 30, 2011 09:47 AM (dh5Eu)
It's useful to compare the Democrats' position here to their general position on regulation of any other industry.
No matter what the regulation is, they generally support it (except in one case). They always seem to think that government regulations, inspections, and paperwork-compliance creates a better, more hygienic, and more moral industry.
Except here. In this one case, they find regulation, inspection, and paperwork-compliance unduly burdensome.
--
*COUGH*
Immigration from Mexico.
*COUGH*
Posted by: logprof at March 30, 2011 09:50 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: logprof at March 30, 2011 09:51 AM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: logprof
It's big business. Millions of dollars are riding on it. Drugs, people, it's all up for grabs.
And you are a radical and extremist for pointing this out, as am I.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes... at March 30, 2011 10:04 AM (usS2T)
Posted by: dagny at March 30, 2011 10:34 AM (66JDx)
Think of it as finally learning to play the long game. Instead of wasting our energy and resources saving something that can't be saved, we accept the national DNR order and focus on building our own seeds and roots. Then, when they try to spread their 'replacement' around, we wait for the inevitable failure...and re-emerge later as a viable, superior alternative.
It may take a while, and it will come at great cost. But it's what our opposition has been doing for generations, and it's well past time we adapted accordingly.
Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at March 30, 2011 10:39 AM (GBXon)
I've been an activist since Goldwater- essays, phone calls, letters to editors. Bumper stickers. I really thought that with the InterToobs we were going places- like more education and enlightenment.
Turns out we just got to go to Hell faster...
Posted by: backhoe at March 30, 2011 10:39 AM (0bk6W)
1. abortion
2. voter ID
3. immigration status (documentation)
regulation and paperwork are burdensome; everything else regulated!
Posted by: Saxon at March 30, 2011 11:46 AM (WDySP)
Posted by: 40 million dead babies at March 30, 2011 12:20 PM (RD/KP)
Posted by: not the droid you seek at March 30, 2011 01:29 PM (zQTMd)
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Well, two. But good luck getting them on board with tort and legal reform.
Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at March 30, 2011 07:58 AM (GBXon)