1 With the way the economy is headed... the Dems are deadmeat come 2012. Blather about cuts that may or may not happen a decade later really won't change that.

2 Silly Ace, only those with plans can be attacked. Rule #1, never have a plan. Rule #2, attack all plans as being heartless. Rule #3, never forget Rule # 1.

3 As has been said before, the majority of voters get the government they deserve.

4 Real guts would demolish the EPA so energy and farmers can do what they do best, fuel and feed a populace.

5 I think a fair amount of the public is still unaware of how thoroughly boned we actually are; they're only aware the GOP wants to make "drastic cuts". Once they come around to economic reality, I think this will all even out. It takes time to cut through the MSM bullshit.

6 Kerry on the 'bipartisan' commission.  What a lying, demagoguing, asshole.  That pos will be in front of the cameras every day.  I'll be like having two shithead presidents.

7 "First of all, this is a poll of adults, and is then not really predictive of electoral results." Well, we know what you mean; but it works either way.

8 Ace.  You're first clue to the inaccuracy of this poll should have been when you read CNN/Opinion Research Corp.

9 Now you're finally getting to the nut of the thing.

A substantial percentage of the population receives some kind of government "assistance," watches the major TV networks, buys People and probably thinks that Obama guy is doing okay. He sounds so reasonable when he talks about taking it to the Man wealthy and making them cough up their "fair share."

If Limbaugh, for example, has 4 million daily listeners (a number I just pulled out of my posterior; I don't know), that leaves 300 million people not listening.

I'm convinced the majority of Americans don't and can't follow the arguments for and against getting the government under control. They know the Chicago Jesus still has his stash, and live in hope of getting more of it.

In short, morons are way the hell ahead of the curve in all this stuff. That's good, but is also sad.

10 Is the Republican message all that painful? Really? Guaranteeing old people their benefits, and telling everyone else the gravy train will be bone dry by the time you retire is really that painful? Good gosh we have become a soft, despicable people. London may in fact be our future.

11 There's a vid at The Blaze of McLame at a town hall in AZ, and a tea partier asks him about the "hobbit" comment and if he would like to apologize. 

The jackweasel arrogantly said he wouldn't back off what he said, and pissed off quite a few people in the room.

The MFM will continue to demonize the tea party right up to 2012.

I say, "Bring it."

12 Fer cryin' out loud. According to Drudge, the donk half of the Super Committee consists of Kerry, Murray, and Baucus. Unless the pubbies plant a squish on ther side, it looks like deadlock city.

13 Well we are NOT making out case to that 20% who matter. We can't wait for Sept of 2012. The FIGHT starts NOW!

14

I got a pretty good feel for how stupid the average American is down at the DMV today.

I'm really having trouble loving my fellow man as of late.

I'm not proud of it, but it's true. There's sinply no excuse for people to be as ignorant as they are--information has never been cheaper or more accessible than it is today.

15

Add in the +30% or so Dims in that poll and it sounds about right.

What we have here, is another failure to communicate from teh Pubbies. When will they learn? There was enough low hanging fruit during the debt debate to feed an army of presstitues, yet what did we hear besides crickets?

They didn't even use quotes from The Vapid One®, enough to turn him into even more of a laughingstock than he already is. They could have shoved every one of his campaign statements about his promises right up his ass, but they refused to do it.

Sorry for the rant, but my exasperation level is at an all time high (again). Teh Pubbies should be riding a wave that would sweep over Washington in 2012. I'm to the point where I want the Tea Party to take over the GOP right fuckin' now.

16 I've got a plan.....it's around here somewhere....in my underpants, maybe....

17 You say they polled "adults." Who refuse to act like adults. Fuck them. I'll be collecting their thumbs in the Battlelands after the collapse. Take your cuts now, or Jeff cuts you later.

18 i think republicans just havent given in enough to the liberals, obviously.

apparently there was still something we could have given in on so that we wouldnt get blamed for this and then just sail into having all 3 branches in 2012.

guess we have to agree to tax increases now...  go boehner, i know you can do it.  long game®!!!

19 17 You say they polled "adults." I say, Obama has "polled" us all.

20 "At some point the Democrats will be compelled by circumstance to offer their actual agenda -- and we'll see how that fares when the public understands what they mean by "a balanced approach.""

No, ace, they won't ever be compelled.  That is just wishful thinking.

21 According to Drudge, the donk half of the Super Committee consists of Kerry, Murray, and Baucus. Unless the pubbies plant a squish on ther side, it looks like deadlock city. Posted by: long toss at August 09, 2011 05:33 PM (Im2q3) Kerry? So this is another thing he did nothing to earn. He has either married it or inherited it

22 ugh, we're caput. The only solution is for obama to seize all of america's wealth and transfer it to various union thugs and community organizers. Right?

23 I think that for the most part, people know the country is in a heap of trouble.  The problem is that there are a boat load of people who think that the Tea Party is responsible for the fix we are in now.  It's like the entire left side of the political spectrum can't remember anything beyond a year ago at the most. 

24 At least as a state senator he had to actually push a button that said "Present!". Now he just deems himself and his plan present.

25 Posted by: Dave at August 09, 2011 05:32 PM (Xm1aB)

It is when compared to the Democrat message of "We can do all that, and we won't make you or your kids take fewer benefits in SS and Medicare in your old age!"

Remember- the Democrats don't have a plan.  They have not published a plan.  They have not leaked details of a plan.  They have not even leaked that there are details to be leaked from a plan.

Every answer to every question to a Republican should be "Where is the Democrats' budget proposal?"

And, Ace, I'm going to quibble with you here- I doubt the Democrats will ever "be compelled by circumstance to offer their actual agenda," until and unless the Republicans grow a pair and quit worrying about the Media calling them mean names and start requiring that the Democrats produce their plan- written, and posted on the appropriate congressional committee's website.

26 CNN is still in business??

27 I mean, there's not an ounce of fat left in the federal budget, well except for toilet paper for navy ships, apparently. And no republican can intelligently argue otherwise.

28 The choice before the voters must be made in stark terms. It would be immoral to offer anything but the most clear and differentiated paths before us.

Either we continue down the socialist democrat path over a cliff or we pull back and shrink the Federal government. Any attempt to find a third path or alternatives will lead the worst of both options.

I like Ryan's plan but the ultimate choice here is whether or not people want to submit to a leviathan state or not.

29 -information has never been cheaper or more accessible than it is today.

Which may be part of the problem since things we don't have to work for are seldom respected/cared for.

30 I know Barry's done a bang up job keeping his numbers somewhat propped up by continuing to issue vague generalities instead of a concrete plan, but I refuse to believe (even with our MSM) that he will be allowed to sail through the next election without offering anything on paper.

31 Things could have changed but I'm not buying this one.  The poll I believe is the last election, that's the poll I believe.  I don't see what has happened since then has really helped the Downgrade Democrats.

32 14

I got a pretty good feel for how stupid the average American is down at the DMV today.

Obama voters, all.

33 Why didn't the Dems name Chucky Schumer to the "Super Committee" and get it over with? What a waste of time.

34

At some point the Democrats will be compelled by circumstance to offer their actual agenda

I don't know. When is that point going to come? They've gotten by pretty well so far by offering no plan at all and attacking the only people who did offer plans.

35

Is the Republican message all that painful?

Considering their recent budget clusterfuck, yes.  The Tea Party message is gaining favor.  The 2010 elections proved that.  And, BTW, that's the poll I pay more attention to.  Fuck CNN.

36 oops.  dirty sock.

37 Ace, you missed the takeaway point of the poll. The reason the GOP is so disliked is because conservatives, libertarians, & tea partiers WITHIN the Republican party hate what the establishment leaders do in congress. they are weak, ineffective leaders w/o a real message or plan for small government. Liberals may hate the Democratic party & Obama at times, but when push comes to shove, most of the liberals still support their side. But there are a ton of ppl who support the GOP or at least side w/ it on fiscal issues, who are completely fed up with the establishment wing of the GOP. People are sick of the status quo, and are about ready to quit the party completely if the GOP doesn't get its act together. The poll doesn't say liberals are winning. They may win by default, but only because the Republican party is 1 more debt ceiling increase away from losing half its membership to some 3rd party. People who hate both parties are about to quit the system. They're not going to stick w/ the GOP if Boehner is renominated as speaker, or if Romney wins the nomination. There was hope for the GOP after 2010, but most of the goodwill is gone. People are disenchanted once more, & that's the main reason you see GOP support dropping so low. It's not a messaging problem. It's a lack of spine by the GOP to force real cuts in govt. And sooner or later, if the party doesn't get its act together, half the GOP voters are going to bolt from the party completely, in favor of someone who actually wants to balance the budget instead of just talk about it.

38 Well Jane, we warned Arizona voters that McCain would revert to his RINO status as soon as he was reelected. I guess they're okay with it. If not, too freaking bad.

39 That shit head Beckel is defending the "protesters" in London.

40 Ok, did you say Murry? Patty Murry? ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,

41 According the Beckel, the austerity cuts made in England are "hurting" the poor protesters.

Coming soon, here.

42 Another thing to bear in mind - some people on the GOP side aren't pleased with their performance in the debt debate, because they didn't go far enough.

43

I'm not proud of it, but it's true. There's sinply no excuse for people to be as ignorant as they are--information has never been cheaper or more accessible than it is today.

I give my new boss (a raging lefty, as are most of my musical-type friends) and you should hear his rants. He told me this morning that I needed to abandon my conservatism and move to the middle.

There was a really nice song on the radio at that time that I listened to while he ranted. I was smiling and nodding all the while.

I don't waste my time on him. I just let him talk, and understand that his MSM brainwashing is working well. All he does is repeat lefty talking points. He might wake up one of these days, who knows?

44 Apparently, I can be denied.

45 Why didn't the Dems name Chucky Schumer to the "Super Committee" and get it over with? What a waste of time. Posted by: CoolCzech at August 09, 2011 05:38 PM (kUaEF) Kerry is the mouth piece of the far left.

46 Meh I for one am tired of worrying about the freaking indies. I'm confused I mean what do they want? What do they stand for? This is gut check time and we need to craet a voting block that is consistant with core values. What core values do indies have besides wanting to stay out of the fray and a paassive approach. Those days are gone my friend we must get proactive and remain that way indefinitely.

47 http://tinyurl.com/3kgbnrh Posted on insty, it seems the MIA's message has gotten out.

48 About that super committee: As suspected the dems will put their most hard-core tax and spenders on the committee.  What will the stupid party do?  My guess is Snowe, Blutarski and Collins.

49 So the riots continue in Britian? You have got to be kidding? Aren't they even the least bit embarrassed exhibiting their utter impotence day after day after day? Good grief, it's a damn good thing I'm not the PM. There would be blood in the streets, and they'd be empty right now except for a few stray looter-carcasses.

50

The choice before the voters must be made in stark terms. It would be immoral to offer anything but the most clear and differentiated paths before us.

Immoral-shimmoral. So long as I make my tee time. 

51

re: riotous mobs -

I like the black LaFours behind Mayor Nutter at the news conference today.  Lends a certain something to the proceedings.

52 What will the stupid party do?  My guess is Snowe, Blutarski and Collins.


shhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

53

No one ever went bankrupt betting on the gullibility of the American people, as (I think) P.T. Barnum said.

Pretty sure that's also been attributed to H.L. Mencken and Mark Twain, but it was actually Thomas Jefferson.  (Stuff Jefferson Said, Special Holiday Edition.)

 

 

54 Wow, I would hope that conservative disappointment with Boehner's idiotic deal would be the cause of any bad polls. BTW, how're things in Wisconsin?

55 How much of that GOP disapproval is due to Boehner and McConnell being establishment asshats?  How much is due to a large number of Republicans voting to raise the debt ceiling? 

56 41According the Beckel, the austerity cuts made in England are "hurting" the poor protesters.

Coming soon, here.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2011 05:41 PM (UOM48

The MFM is picking up that story line and running with it. This riot is about a policeman shooting and killing a black man.

57 The other party, on the other hand, offers up pablum and non-solutions that sound good -- "balanced approach," "investments," "modest reforms," etc. -- but are in fact unworkable, and are not really plans at all.

That's a plan, right? To not have a plan? It's like some of those wacky Canadians say, "If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice."

So, I'm thinker than you smart I am.

58 This riot is about a policeman shooting and killing a black man. Posted by: Krazy Kat at August 09, 2011 05:45 PM (A23u6) We can arrange that here

59

The MFM is picking up that story line and running with it. This riot is about a policeman shooting and killing a black man.

Posted by: Krazy Kat at August 09, 2011 05:45 PM (A23u6)

They leave out the part where he was firing at them.

And given that the police over there don't want to use water hoses on the rioters, are we really to believe they behave like Vic Mackey?

60 If the economy is still in the toilet, I don't see how Obama wins the election.  They can demonize the GOP candidate all they want, but at the end of the day, this election is about Obama and his track record, or lack thereof.

61

Apparently, I can be denied.

Tell me about it.

62 Still, it's dicey for 2012. No one ever went bankrupt betting on the gullibility of the American people, as (I think) P.T. Barnum said. No, that was me.

63 later- got to finish a root canal

64 First, what moron answers their phone ( a land line ) and then answers a pollsters questions?????

A fat, toothless, welfare idiot that has their phone paid for by the state.

When will pollsters realise they are interviewing the dregs of society????

65 Posted by: Krazy Kat at August 09, 2011 05:45 PM (A23u6)

A black man who, it should be noticed, happened to be in a cab from which police were taking fire.  As one of the British columnists pointed out (don't remember where I found the link, sorry) either his death was tragic (wrong place, wrong time) or fully justified.  What is specifically wasn't was some kind of cold-blooded murder.

66

The MFM is picking up that story line and running with it. This riot is about a policeman shooting and killing a black man.

Posted by: Krazy Kat at August 09, 2011 05:45 PM (A23u6)

Well, it was about that....for about 10 mins.  Now it's about getting free shit and burning the rest 'rich people's' stuff.

67 _{This riot is about a policeman shooting and killing a black man.}

These riots are about lowlife wanting free shit and violence without consequences.

Lord of the Flies.

68 I owe you a coke Tami.

69 These riots are about lowlife wanting free shit and violence without consequences.

Lord of the Flies.

Posted by: sifty at August 09, 2011 05:49 PM (ECjvn)

Ultimately yes!

70 Throw some rum in it, k sifty?

71 The other party, on the other hand, offers up pablum and non-solutions that sound good -- "balanced approach," "investments," "modest reforms," etc. -- but are in fact unworkable, and are not really plans at all.

I'm not normally one to pimp my own statements, but I think this comment from the previous thread fits nicely with this excerpt.

-----------------------------

I sometimes don't think we think about this enough.

However wrong it is; however (yes, I'll say it) evil it is.  However unworkable it is when viewed through any realistic world-view, Marxism is comforting.

It enables the cognitive dissonance with which most people live daily.  It is what the Christian writers (from Paul in the 1st cent., to people like CS Lewis, and even modern writers) called "the man of flesh and the man of spirit" or "duality" or whatever you want to call it.  No matter it's name, we all know it exists (if we admit it to ourselves): that desire to get "ours," no matter who it hurts- and the knowledge that such selfishness is wrong.

Most people (I believe) try to listen more to the latter voice than the former.  We try to be good people (even though we aren't).

So, along comes Marxism.  A philosophy which says: Yes! You can have everything that's "yours," and you no longer have to worry about being your brother's keeper- because the all beneficent government will keep him for you.  You don't have to worry about your greed- we'll help you keep it in line, and you don't have to sacrifice what is yours for the good of others.  Each man and woman will contribute, as they are able, to the all powerful, all beneficent government, and that government will return to each man and woman, according to their needs.

That's a sweet siren's call, and many sailors have been dashed to death on frothy rocks of reality that surround the island on which those sirens live.

72

Well, it was about that....for about 10 mins. Now it's about getting free shit and burning the rest 'rich people's' stuff.

Posted by: Tami at August 09, 2011 05:48 PM (X6akg

Yep. I wonder it this is a flash mob dealio

73 OT but still listening to BBC online about the riots... You know what is odd, nearly every person who comments on "how they feel" offers a variation on "it's so useless, we don't deserve this, it's tragic." I haven't heard anyone say "Lock everyone up who is rioting. Throw away the key." A nation of pussies.

74 What cannot continue, won't.

75

I could live with a few British cities being entirely torched. I wonder if anyone there would start to think maybe they're in a war of which they're not aware?

 

76 12 Fer cryin' out loud. According to Drudge, the donk half of the Super Committee consists of Kerry, Murray, and Baucus. Unless the pubbies plant a squish on ther side, it looks like deadlock city.

Posted by: long toss at August 09, 2011 05:33 PM (Im2q3)

This is a dumb committee.  Literally.

I would have been less surprised with Schumer on it.  Kerry is lazy and a blowhard, he won't do anything.  Murray is a dimwit and, again, will preen.  Baucus might be set up to be the designated compromiser.  Maybe they don't trust Tester directly not to give away the store.

But this is their "A" team on budget matters? Really? Again, Baucus I'd expect, but the other two are like Larry and Curly.

77 This riot ( in London ) is about thousands of people--mostly Black--looting and burning.   They're thieves, not 'protestors'

  The 'father of four' who was killed was in a criminal gang which used guns ( a huge Deal in Britain )

78 What would Winston Churchill think? David Cameron is a disgrace.

79 What cannot continue, won't.

"It's not the fall that kills you.  It's the sudden stop at the end."

80

So what you're saying is that they should have asked who's plan do you prefer:  The Democrats or the Republicans?

 

Who's budget is better?

 

Who has  better football team: Detroit of Los Angeles?

81 He's EATING THAT FUCKING APPLE AGAIN!!

82
A black man who, it should be noticed, happened to be in a cab from which police were taking fire. As one of the British columnists pointed out (don't remember where I found the link, sorry) either his death was tragic (wrong place, wrong time) or fully justified. What is specifically wasn't was some kind of cold-blooded murder.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 09, 2011 05:48 PM (8y9MW)

Ah any excuse to steal stuff. This is a first for GB no? Must be taking

tips from the US.

83 The repubes need to make the dems put something down in writing.   They keep trying to joust with the wind, but you can't pin down a constant, warm, feel-good breeze of hopey changey.   Every plan 'our' side puts out gets twisted and slammed as cruel; even this last Boner joke that gave government another 2.4 trillion in walking around money and didn't cut a damn thing.   It is time to make the democraps put something in writing.

Oh yeah, and did anyone mention that most of the tea party voted against the latest steaming pile?  But, I suppose it didn't help much pointing out fiscal conservatives mostly went against tarp, which is still hung around Bush's neck (not undeservedly) to this day.

84 But even the English yobs haven't stooped to stealing golf clubs. So there's that.

85 He's EATING THAT FUCKING APPLE AGAIN!!

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 09, 2011 05:53 PM (99iL6)

The same one?  Does he chew a cud?

86

The MFM is picking up that story line and running with it. This riot is about a policeman shooting and killing a black man being used as an excuse to getting back at evil capitalists

Posted by: Krazy Kat at August 09, 2011 05:45 PM (A23u6)

 

Just to finish a thought. 

87 Funny stuff. A police big wig in London was gassing about the Full Weight of the Law and Criminality will not be tolerated... he said more or less "we have their pictures, and we want people to help us identify them... and we will come and arrest them, in the coming days, weeks... and months." In a big hurry, they are.

88

I haven't heard anyone say "Lock everyone up who is rioting. Throw away the key."

 

"Rioters and Looters will be shot.  In related news, Rubber Bullets have been outlawed."

89 "we have their pictures, and we want people to help us identify them... and we will come and arrest them, in the coming days, weeks... and months." Just in time for Obama's coming economic plans!!

90 So, a CNN poll fifteen months out is a Big Deal?

A poll of likely voters?  No.  A poll of registered voters?  No

all this is, is a fart in the wind;  breaking bad wind;  wind in the........

91

Anyone who believes this poll is clueless.  I will not point out the many flaws with this poll or the way they can be manipluated, but lets face it the Congress's phone boards weren't put out of commission by people asking for their taxes to raised or asking for more spending.

This is the kind of analysis that makes long for the wit and wisdom one sees in the Washington Post or NY Slimes.

 

92 That pos will be in front of the cameras every day.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 09, 2011 05:31 PM (jx2j9)

you've seen through our cunninly concealed plan. We will need a frontrunner in 2013 and beyond.

93 The police will crack down after  the public starts fighting back. Not before.

The "right people" are being victimized and punished right now. Some British subjects are being sacrificed to the mob in an effort to satisfy the mob.

It's like a person feeding their least favorite dog to an alligator so they can run away safely.

94 Gawd Almighty, David Cameron sounds like a complete pussy. He just warned the rioters that "you're not only hurting other people, you're hurting yourselves." These are the words of a slave.

95 What will the stupid party do? My guess is Snowe, Blutarski McCaine, and Collins. FTFY! Though I think they should also send along Graham, just in case Collins has to queef.

96 BTW that police mook with the fruit salad on his jacket in London was a Tim Godwin, Commissioner.

97

Who did they poll? The White House press pool? Obama's golf buddies? I have no doubt the GOP is unpopular. However, from what I am reading, so is O'Barky, Congress and Wall Street. Hate and Change under Obama!

Re: London...the real citizens are being led by buffoons who won't bring in the military or even use water hoses in Parliment! I feel badly for the police and private citizens who are ordering bats from Amazon. I'd be perched in front of my second story front window with a vat of hot oil for these jerks. I saw a photo in the London Times with people holding BROOMS. I kid you not.

What are they robbing people with? Tweezers? There are no guns, right? One photo had a white guy stripping to his boxers with a thug standing over him. I can assure you that would not happen here except, maybe, in San Francisco. I read that in Notting Hill, which is pretty ritzy, restaurant patrons were robbed of their rings, etc. by a mob with waiters "protecting" them with rolling pins. Do they not know how to knee in groins or poke keys in eyeballs, throw glasses of drinks, use dinner forks/knives to protect themselves or is that something us Southern belles learned at SEC football tailgates? I feel badly for London, but come on: fight back.

98 Obama and the Dems have already decided their best strategy is to do nothing and with the help of the media, just run against what the Repubs with 1/2 of 1/3rd of the government want to do. Obama will propose jack and shit, sit back and wait for the Repubs to propose shit, demonize whatever they propose, turn it down, and say he wants compromise the entire time. Compromise and sweet taxes.

99 Here is why discount the poll:

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey

All polls are limited in utility. News polls are worse than useless.

100 AllenG (Dedicated Tenther): "No matter it's name, we all know it exists (if we admit it to ourselves): that desire to get 'ours,' no matter who it hurts- and the knowledge that such selfishness is wrong."

Hence, one premise of The Box.

101 94 Gawd Almighty, David Cameron sounds like a complete pussy. He just warned the rioters that "you're not only hurting other people, you're hurting yourselves." These are the words of a slave Liberal during the height of the Cold War. Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 05:57 PM (AZGON) Cameron must have been bitten by a Killer Rabbit as a child.

102 _{Do they not know how to knee in groins or poke keys in eyeballs, throw glasses of drinks, use dinner forks/knives to protect themselves}

All the good genes died in the trenches.

103 Kinda related:  John Kerry and Patty Murray are two of the three Dems assigned to the super committee on debt.  Oh yeah, we can work with these people.  From Drudge.

104 You know what would make The Five better?  If Dana Perino pulled off a stiletto heel and rammed it right between Beckel's eyes.  And as his head fell toward the table, she casually slid it back on, and everyone continued speaking as if nothing happened.

But that's just me.

105 or is that something us Southern belles learned at SEC football tailgates

Good times, good times ...

106 94 Gawd Almighty, David Cameron sounds like a complete pussy. He just warned the rioters that "you're not only hurting other people, you're hurting yourselves."

These are the words of a slave.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 05:57 PM (AZGON)

He has a liberal's mentality.  When there's a crime, the first person he thinks about is the criminal.

107

A black man who, it should be noticed, happened to be in a cab from which police were taking fire. As one of the British columnists pointed out (don't remember where I found the link, sorry) either his death was tragic (wrong place, wrong time) or fully justified. What is specifically wasn't was some kind of cold-blooded murder.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 09, 2011 05:48 PM (8y9MW)

I was just talking with someone I know in England, who luckily isn't in London and she said that forensics said the gun the guy had was not fired.  Is she getting bad info or something?

108 Cameron is John Major's baby; they went to the same School of Mealy-Mouthed Mush-Faced Faux-Conservatism for Tory Prats

Like Major, he gets a few things right but talks like a Euro-weeny.  At least he's not a Scottish Labour Turn like Gorgeous Georgie Brown

109 1/2 of 1/3rd

DRINK!

110 But one thing is certain EVERY news organization in the country blamed Republicans. Also, all of them except Fox blamed the Tea party.

That had to have some impact on people.

111 'Labour-TurD.   not that it matters.....

112 the gun the guy had
the gun the guy had
the gun the guy had
the gun the guy had

= criminal

113 1/2 of 1/3rd DRINK! I'm running out of hooch.

114 What's funny is that England came up with the phrase "Reading the Riot Act," which was a real thing where one could land in jail for life for failing to disperse. Things are so much more civilized now, eh?

115 http://tinyurl.com/3hfbczy

116 Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2011 06:00 PM (GULKT)

Fog of ( race ) war:  No one story has emerged, but the coppers say they were fired at from where Duggan was.  Wrong place, at least

117 I'm running out of cooch. Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 06:01 PM (AZGON) eHarmony cut you off???

118 80- Detriot OR Los Angeles

119 In the years ahead, you know what I'm really in the mood for?  More primary blood-letting.  Ultimately, we are in this mess because of the corrupt dysfunctional GOP, who did nothing of value when they completely controlled the government.

Market-based health care reform?  Naw; Senators have great health care, so no need to rush.  Entitlement reform?  Eh, we tried, and it was too hard.  Earmarks reform?  Crazy talk; we have votes to buy, after all.

I want to drive the pigs out.  More Marco Rubio, less Charlie Crist.  More Chris Christie, less John McCain.

Hey guys, guess what?  I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more primary.

120

This clarifies things in my mind: Americans will squeal like a stuck pig about having their benefits trifled with, but they wonÂ’t say shit about having to pay through the nose because of policies like this.

He said it.  Loudly.  His own follows didnÂ’t believe him.  They still donÂ’t.

How is it even remotely possible that the right is losing the information war with ammunition like this?

121 RCP Average Direction of the Country   6/24 - 8/4   

Remains unchanged at     Right Track  23.8%   Wrong Track  68.6%

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122 Online Jeebus in a router, sorry about the threadjacking, but listening to these horses' asses representing the British government is surreal. Wholly surreal. They are gabbling about "helping families" and "we cannot allow disorder!" and "we must provide resources" and "stories of heroism in The Community..." Sickening. What about a minimum of "heroism" from the fucking police... instead they are discussing "extreme" measures like curfews and water cannon. Oh, yeah. Therapeutic, welfare state Britain.

123 I thought Britain BNPers were the violent thugs.  You'd think they'd love a target like these rioters for a little of the old ultra-violence.

124 112 the gun the guy had
the gun the guy had
the gun the guy had
the gun the guy had

= criminal

Posted by: sifty at August 09, 2011 06:01 PM (ECjvn)

Oh yeah of course.  And like I said to her unless the gun was holstered I have zero issue with him getting shot.  If it was holstered I may have issue or I may not depending on other circumstances.  I was just wondering if she was wrong on it not being fired.

125 113 117 That's HOOCH, ya rat bastahd!

126 What is being offered is pure horseshit.
"Finest quality manure, from racehorses" - local smalltown paper 30 yrs ago.

 At some point the Democrats will be compelled by circumstance to offer their actual agenda

Horseshit & major stagflation is their actual agenda.

127 How is it even remotely possible that the right is losing the information war with ammunition like this?

It's inexplicable!

128

I was just talking with someone I know in England, who luckily isn't in London and she said that forensics said the gun the guy had was not fired.  Is she getting bad info or something?

I read that as well...original reporting was a bullet lodged in radio (it was from another police gun, I guess). Regardless, the cops pulled this thug over in a black neighborhood, and he didn't cooperate (I guess) and they saw the gun, the bobby panicked or whatever. Then it was Watt's Riot in LA all over again.Now they are just rioting for the sport of it with Mooslems involved and Robin Hood's Merry Men.

For heaven's sake, don't the private home owners own large hedge clippers or something? Bug spray? I don't think tea cosies are gonna work so well. I love London and this sucks, but it has been coming for awhile as Mark Steyn's books have said. I take comfort in that if it continues here it will be brief and in pockets without redneck gun owners.

 

129 Remains unchanged at     Right Track  23.8%   Wrong Track  68.6%

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Posted by: toby928™ at August 09, 2011 06:05 PM (GTbGH)

That's a wide stance.

130  I feel badly for London, but come on: fight back.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 09, 2011 05:58 PM (FnRYN)

 

Why people aren't fighting the rioters in London is the same reason people won't fight rioters here when it happens.  Political correctness.  It has cowed the majority of people of both countries into submission. 

131 Sure wish the British were like this about 100 years ago or so.

132 So the riots continue in Britian?

According to Drudge, there are or recently have been riots or violent protests in Britain, Israel, Spain, Portugal, Greece, the Philippines, Syria, and China.  The link, CNBC, blames it all on economic unrest and I'm sure that is a major part of it.  I can't help wondering if civilization itself is failing.  People may want to destroy more than they want to cooperate not caring or perhaps not understanding that they are fighting against their own best interest.

133 Hussein the Plumber@120,

"Energy costs will necessarily skyrocket."

That SOB-in-Chief really works overtime to sabotage this country. How the fuck does he have approval ratings above zero? Seriously, WTFF?

134 Maybe the Brits deserve to just die out. They seem to have utterly lost their survival instincts as a people.

135
But Intrade has Obama up by 20%!!!!!!!!


Oh, wait a minute....

136 I was just wondering if she was wrong on it not being fired.

Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2011 06:06 PM (GULKT)

Regardless, the cops pulled this thug over in a black neighborhood, and he didn't cooperate (I guess) and they saw the gun, the bobby panicked or whatever.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 09, 2011 06:08 PM (FnRYN)

Well, it's past 48 hours, so since we don't know major parts of the story, I assume that it's media suppression.

The other possibility is that, yes, one of the guns that he had was not fired.

137 Listening to the tone and delivery of the leftards at the BBC, you notice a recurrent trait in their voices. When they describe the violence and rioting, it is as if they are describing a natural disaster, like a hurricane or a flood. The same low, slow tone, dropping in pitch at the end of a sentence. As if this is a mere tragedy devoid of any ethical or moral component. Oh, are the Brits fucked. Good and hard.

138 What we need is justice. Enfield  .303 justice.

139 well, the race war in england not so surprising what with the left using mass, unassimilated immigration to create a stable base of new, presumably pliable voters. If only the crimes of the left stopped at voting themselves $, they decided to start farming voters.

140

What will it take for the British to man up and fight back?

141 Why people aren't fighting the rioters in London is the same reason people won't fight rioters here when it happens.  Political correctness.  It has cowed the majority of people of both countries into submission.

Absolutely correct.  We are the oppressors of history and deserve to be exterminated.  As the MBM has shown by their lack of coverage of the Wisconsin racial attacks, we are expected to go ignorant into that good night.  We are to embrace our richly deserved deaths not with a bang, but with a whimper.

142 I guess the lame ass response of the English shows that the envisioned great awakening of non-Islamic europe will not be happening.

143

Why people aren't fighting the rioters in London is the same reason people won't fight rioters here when it happens.  Political correctness.  It has cowed the majority of people of both countries into submission. 

Then they are fools. I can assure you I will fight back and I am a lady most of the time. I know how to use my hand to break a nose with a jab, turn my car-key as an eyeball poker,etc. I may be dead but I will take pieces of whoever kills me for DNA. A cop taught us nurses what to do a long time ago if we were confronted in a dark parking lot. I can assure you that Southern women will fight back, so it must be something in the water here.

144 140 What will it take for the British to man up and fight back? Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 09, 2011 06:14 PM (GKQDR) I would, I really would... but the Mean Big Black Man took my pants and it's hard fighting back in just my Spiderman undies!

145 I say, old chap, would you mind massaging the left side of my noggin with that fist for a bit? The right side is getting a bit sore, wot?

146 What was in Marcellus Wallace's briefcase in Pulp Fiction? How would Obama answer that question?

147

Regardless, the cops pulled this thug over in a black neighborhood, and he didn't cooperate (I guess) and they saw the gun, the bobby panicked or whatever.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 09, 2011 06:08 PM (FnRYN)

That is not what was initially reported. The initial reports were that he was being followed by a special unit and that he opened fire on them from the vehicle.

148 I'm pretty sure these riots are one of those topics that Ace hesitates to put up because he's afraid of the racist trolls showing up.

149 You know what this now-off-topic thread really needs?

A Bill Murray and Betty White mash-up.

150 142 I guess the lame ass response of the English shows that the envisioned great awakening of non-Islamic europe will not be happening. Posted by: joeindc44 at August 09, 2011 06:14 PM (QxSug) As soon as that Big Bully gives me my pants back, it will!!!

151 I feel badly for London, but come on: fight back.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 09, 2011 05:58 PM (FnRYN)

I agree with the other commenters here; eventually the yobbo's will get bored and go back home. But the underlying infection of Leftist stupidity will only produce more excuses and hand-wringing guilt.

These things will happen again and keep reoccurring until it becomes taboo or distasteful to appease the multi-culti bullshit artists. And that won't happen for a long time, and not before there is a big schism in Western society.

152

Hey I served vietnam ! http://tinyurl.com/3lm25bd

let the festivities begin

153 ...riots or violent protests in Britain, Israel, Spain, Portugal, Greece, the Philippines, Syria, and China. The link, CNBC, blames it all on economic unrest and I'm sure that is a major part of it. Just reminded me of another bit of cognitive dissonance and denial in the BBC coverage of the riots. Have you seen who is rioting? Have you observed their ilk? One jackass BBC reporter asked a gubmint official about "causes," was it the cuts in programs? Looking at the rioters, it's clear these people have barely brains to fill out a lottery ticket, much less become involved in and aware of the multitude of gubmint programs for The Poor™ in the UK. Refusing to look reality in the face. The UK has raised a generation full of animals posing as humans, and denies doing it.

154 What will it take for the British to man up and fight back?

Rush today mentioned that he had been contacted by members of the Republican party asking him to attack Obama for them.  You see, they want to play nice with Obama for ear of being called racists but they want somebody to bear a backbone for them.  I haven't noticed Rush being any too soft on Obama and I don't know whether he will attempt to comply with their wishes but i do know that you can't transplant your backbone into someone else.  The Brits will either have to stand up or lie down. 

155 Precisely who gives a shit!  Polls will deceive in our graves, and we keep worrying about them.  Fuck 'em.

156 The Brits will either have to stand up or lie down. Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 06:17 PM (Hx5uv) Really? I thought that bully just wanted me to bend over!

157 Posted by: buzzion at August 09, 2011 06:00 PM (GULKT)

As someone already pointed out- simply having the gun was criminal.  But that was part of my post- either he was (relatively) innocent- but still in a car where someone was (as I understand it) shooting at police (one policeman was wounded, and a bullet was found lodged into a police radio), or he was actively shooting at police.  In neither case can the police reasonably be blamed for his death.  In the latter case, it was simple self defense, in the former: tragedy of coincidence.

158 Reminds me of the end of Harry Brown.

In fact, it is exactly like Harry Brown.

http://tinyurl.com/ykupv3e

159

Then they are fools. I can assure you I will fight back and I am a lady most of the time. I know how to use my hand to break a nose with a jab, turn my car-key as an eyeball poker,etc. I may be dead but I will take pieces of whoever kills me for DNA. A cop taught us nurses what to do a long time ago if we were confronted in a dark parking lot. I can assure you that Southern women will fight back, so it must be something in the water here.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 09, 2011 06:14 PM (FnRYN)

 

Will you marry me?

160
Rush today mentioned that he had been contacted by members of the Republican party asking him to attack Obama for them.  You see, they want to play nice with Obama for ear of being called racists but they want somebody to bear a backbone for them.  I haven't noticed Rush being any too soft on Obama and I don't know whether he will attempt to comply with their wishes but i do know that you can't transplant your backbone into someone else.  The Brits will either have to stand up or lie down. 

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 06:17 PM (Hx5uv)

...

Primaries. Need. Now.

161

I'll never forget the image of those Korean store owners on the roofs of thier buildings during the Rodney King riots. Fully armed with automatic weapons. And guess whose property wasn't touched?

That was the embodiment of the 2nd amendment.

162 What will it take for the British to man up and fight back? Men? We eliminated those smelly things after the Second World War.

163 12 Fer cryin' out loud. According to Drudge, the donk half of the Super Committee consists of Kerry, Murray, and Baucus. Unless the pubbies plant a squish on ther side, it looks like deadlock city.
Posted by: long toss at August 09, 2011 05:33 PM (Im2q3)

Oh, don't worry. The Dems appointed three commited Marxist ideologues, so that means the fucking genius Mitch McConnell will appoint Susan Collins, Skeezah McCokewhore, and Dick Lugar to the committee so we can all get along and be all "bipartisan" and compromise-y 'n shit. So we'll get whatever the Dims want and then some.

Seriously, why the fuck do we even bother?

164 http://is.gd/HFKUKw

Duggan, 29, was the target of an organised police sting on Thursday. He was killed when the operation turned violent. A police officer was also shot and injured during an exchange of gunfire.

There were reports at the time that Duggan fired at the police first.

165 What was in Marcellus Wallace's briefcase in Pulp Fiction? How would Obama answer that question?

We know it wasn't Obama's soul because, hell, he hasn't got one.

P.S.  Apparently Team Obama has decided that if Romney is the candidate, they are going to attack him on character grounds.  I'd say that Obama's jaw is hanging way out on that.

166 Refusing to look reality in the face. The UK has raised a generation full of animals posing as humans, and denies doing it. Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 06:17 PM (AZGON) Bob Beckel thinks the animals are justified... they were "hurt" by proposed government cutbacks.

167

The MFM is picking up that story line and running with it. This riot is about a policeman shooting and killing a black man.

Are they calling him African American?

168

I would have been less surprised with Schumer on it.  Kerry is lazy and a blowhard, he won't do anything.  Murray is a dimwit and, again, will preen.  Baucus might be set up to be the designated compromiser.  Maybe they don't trust Tester directly not to give away the store.

But this is their "A" team on budget matters? Really? Again, Baucus I'd expect, but the other two are like Larry and Curly.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 09, 2011 05:53 PM (73tyQ)

I just know Orrin Hatch is going to be one of ours.(puke) Maybe he and Baucus  will be the dealmakers?

169

This link is to a great article by Paul Rahe about Obama's failed presidency.

"Chickens Coming Home to Roost"

http://tinyurl.com/3b3pnxc

 

170 Vic, it was a banner with no story in the London Times which charges a British pound for the article and I am not paying them a shilling for it. It was up this afternoon, so guess it is the media's angle of saying the poor innocent lad did not fire first. The original story I saw was that he was carrying a gun. Don't know details. If he had a gun and did not put it down,etc. he deserved it. The original story, when not pimping him being a "father of four" also said a bullet was in a police radio, but the media bleated today that that was from another police gun. So, poor-poopie thug did not, supposedly, return fire. I say he probably deserved it, but I am in the Tealibon and considered a Tearrorist.

171 Men? We eliminated those smelly things after the Second World War. Posted by: Great Britain

Oh, WWI took a whole bucketful of the best and brightest before that.

172 "According the Beckel, the austerity cuts made in England are 'hurting' the poor protesters. "Coming soon, here." It's here already.

173 You know who has been silent in all this global urest? Hillary! or has she been lighting fires of unrest world wide? hmm arab spring my ass!!!!

174 12 Fer cryin' out loud. According to Drudge, the donk half of the Super Committee consists of Kerry, Murray, and Baucus. Unless the pubbies plant a squish on ther side, it looks like deadlock city.

Posted by: long toss at August 09, 2011 05:33 PM (Im2q3)

That is what I said would happen when this "deal" was made. 6 commies from the Dems and all it will take is one RINO. There will be no "deadlock".

175 But this is their "A" team on budget matters? Really? Again, Baucus I'd expect, but the other two are like Larry and Curly. Hmm. Perhaps this suggests the Super Friends Committee will in fact be nothing more than a fig leaf.

176 I first thought that Obama was a competent Socialist.  Now, I see that he is an incompetent boob.  The only thing that matters is: Do the Independents see it this way?  They determine the outcome of all presidential elections.

btw 39% is the liberal base, including those that claim to be Independent but always vote for the Dem.

177

The Brits will either have to stand up or lie down.

Yeah, Canadians are like that too. After everything collapses, I imagine Muslims being chased out of Europe and into the welcoming arms of my suicidal little state. Oh well, I've already ceased caring about Western civ except for conservative America.

178 Oh, WWI took a whole bucketful of the best and brightest before that. Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 09, 2011 06:22 PM (DEcmU) Too bad Vietnam failed to do the same for us in the 1960's. (That's a snarky reference to the Libs calling themselves the Best and the Brightest back then, as they laid the foundation for our current DOOM)

179 MFM is picking up that story line and running with it. This riot is about a policeman shooting and killing a black man.

Are they calling him African American?

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 09, 2011 06:21 PM (XdlcF)

No they're saying its all due to socio economic reasons and give tham a pass

180 Well, the BBC is just looping the same ten minutes of stuff online now. Late over there, and them carbecues is a-burnin'.

181 "According the Beckel, the austerity cuts made in England are 'hurting' the poor protesters.

"Coming soon, here."

It's here already.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 09, 2011 06:23 PM (cbyrC)

Isn't that corpulent bastard overdue for a stroke or something?

182 Britain is a colorblind society, which explains all of their black Prime Ministers throughout history.

183 The only thing that matters is: Do the Independents see it this way?  They determine the outcome of all presidential elections.

Repeat from previous post:

Actually the so-called "mushy middle" is very small. I figure it is less than 5%. Everyone who votes either votes for one Party or the other.

The key to winning the election isn't trying to win that 5% of clueless shittards. It is energizing your base and getting them down to the polls to do the voting.

184 How can any rational human being look at the events of the last two weeks and STILL be a supporter of the democratic party?  They're fucking insane, is the answer.

185

I just know Orrin Hatch is going to be one of ours.(puke) Maybe he and Baucus  will be the dealmakers?

Posted by: long toss at August 09, 2011 06:21 PM (Im2q3)

I'm not worried about Orrin Hatch between now and November 2012.  I think he's going to be drinking a lot of tea until then.

186

Will you marry me?

Honey, I am happily married, old and mean. But thanks anyway. If you are looking, however, I hear any college in the South has a good choice of crazy women at footbawl games. They are the ones to look for as we watch the games on teevee with spouses. I often am sent from the room as my personality can change from sweet to pitbull depending on the amount of booze and/or who is winning. I am worse with college basketball and can go Pavlov's dog at the sight of Coach K. That is why if there are riots like this here I have a lady shotgun and know how to shoot it.

187 We're about a week away from the Peter Pan plea to revive Tinkerbelle moment: "Clap if you believe in fairies, Dimbulbs! Clap harder! Harder! Harder, damn you!"

188

@162

 

Hell, that was the embodiment of Americanism.

 

Demostrated by Koreans.

189 _{Isn't that corpulent bastard overdue for a stroke or something?}

That might actually rate tuning into that show one time.

190 >> No one ever went bankrupt betting on the gullibility of the American people, as (I think) P.T. Barnum said.

What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public.

191 Too bad Vietnam failed to do the same for us in the 1960's.

(That's a snarky reference to the Libs calling themselves the Best and the Brightest back then, as they laid the foundation for our current DOOM)

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 09, 2011 06:24 PM (kUaEF)

 

Perhaps you need to re-word that first sentence a bit. 

192 183 Britain is a colorblind society, which explains all of their black Prime Ministers throughout history.

Posted by: sifty at August 09, 2011 06:27 PM (ECjvn

Hmm and don't forget France!

193 183 Britain is a colorblind society, which explains all of their black Prime Ministers throughout history.

Posted by: sifty at August 09, 2011 06:27 PM (ECjvn)

Affirmative action and welfare really only took hold here because of the "legacy of slavery". Most blacks in the UK are of Caribbean descent.

194
You gotta remember that the vast majority of British cops don't carry firearms. They only break out the guns on someone when they suspect them of being dangerous criminals, and it's just certain armed response units that do that sort of work. This wasn't just a beat cop trying to give the dead miscreant a fixit ticket for a busted tail light.

195 **"According the Beckel, the austerity cuts made in England are 'hurting' the poor protesters.** my heart bleeds. The failure of the welfare state includes not only the financial disaster it breeds, but also the breed of feral humans it produces, it destroys the soul. And, it makes the politicians and intellectuals lazy. Everything is soupline living cut it and people suffer, any responsibility is a burden. Of course, being a bunch of crime-enabling pussies doesn't help either.

196 Ironically, Britain does not have 'castle doctrine.'

197 @192: read the second sentence...

198 First the media came for Palin and I said nothing because she was such a ditz and deserved it.  And then the media came for the Tea Partiers and I said nothing because they were extremists and terrorists.

And then... hey who is that at the door?

199 From the sidebar:  2001 CBO report predicted that we would have our debt paid off by now.  As Maxwell Smart would say, "Missed it by this much."

I assume that they failed to foresee 9/11 and the Coming of the Won.

200 195
You gotta remember that the vast majority of British cops don't carry firearms. They only break out the guns on someone when they suspect them of being dangerous criminals, and it's just certain armed response units that do that sort of work. This wasn't just a beat cop trying to give the dead miscreant a fixit ticket for a busted tail light.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2011 06:30 PM (YUYZd)

I said it last night, I'll say it again tonight:  that shit would never happen here.  A solid 10% of our civilians have concealed carry permits.  We have 3 AF bases and 1 army base. 

Any riot would be met with extreme force from the poplace, forget the police.

201 *populace

202  @192: read the second sentence...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 09, 2011 06:33 PM (kUaEF)

 

Maybe you need to read the comments you were referencing.  They were talking about two world wars that killed off so many good men. 

203 England fifteenth century:  Wars of the Roses

England Twenty-First Century:  Wars of the Posers

204 The riots in London did not start as race based issue and morph into screw the rich mentality. Those two ideas were intertwined from the very beginning in that they are just different facets of the same movement. At least that is how I see it.   However, on  the scale of the individual rioter, some will obviously have differing  motivations, but the general undercurrent is quite obvious and has been brewing for a while.

205
BOO!

206 It may happen at the mall down the street a mile. It may happen in the next town over.

But once it gets close enough where my family and I can smell the smoke, it's game on.

207 We have 3 AF bases and 1 army base.

If the shit really hits the fan, you don't know which way the enlisted will jump.

208 Wonder how long before the French name some street after the armed 'father of four'?

Rue de la Duggan

  Well, he is being portrayed as the poor innocent victim. Stories claiming he never shot his gun etc.Even if he didn't fire, he aimed it at the cops. Here ,that is a  one way ticket to the ever after.

209 It needs to be framed in terms of spending. 

There's no evidence that anyone outside of the middle class is tightening their belts, and that certainly includes the political class. 

210 I need to get a handgun....I have the permit.  Just never got around to getting a gun.  It's time.

211

Boo!

Right back at ya'.

212
Days Since Obama Re-Re-Re-Re-Re-Re-Focused On Jobs: 6

Proposals/Ideas Submitted By Obama: 0

213 Poll: Debt Debate Hurts Republicans (I'm not criticizing you for posting about the poll.) So 'effin What? If you have two choices and one leads to doom and the other to some pain and the painful one isn't as popular as the doomy one - you choose the painful one! Yes, it hurts in the polls. You know what else hurts in the polls? Doom! What the poll tells us is that the struggle to fix America's economic problem is going to be hard. Yeah, well we've seen hard before. Let's Do This Thing. We're not Democrats - we don't govern by poll results.

214 Maybe you need to read the comments you were referencing. They were talking about two world wars that killed off so many good men. Posted by: Soona - Vietnam vet at August 09, 2011 06:35 PM (pcFc3) ...and I sarcastically said it's too bad that the liberals that either avoided the war in Vietnam altogether or BS-ed their role in it like Sen. Kerry had the nads to call themselves the "Best and the Brightest" of the Vietnam generation weren't the ones that were lost. The true "best and the brightest" were the real men that went to fight there. And I really would NOT regret if Kerry bit the Big One in Vietnam, rather than come back and slander honorable men like YOU.

215 OT

Probably has been posted already but Reid just appointed Kerry, Murry and Baucus to the committee.  Now you'll see some cutting.

216

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 06:36 PM (Hx5uv)

good one

217 Sorry but I call bullshit on this post I'm a democrat, I am running for office, and I am an agenda making mofo!! Granted it all is in a quest for money and power...

218 2001 CBO report predicted that we would have our debt paid off by now.  As Maxwell Smart would say, "Missed it by this much."

I assume that they failed to foresee 9/11 and the Coming of the Won.

They also failed to foresee the Japanese tsunami.  If not for that, we'd all be farting through silk now. 

219 217 OT Probably has been posted already but Reid just appointed Kerry, Murry and Baucus to the committee. Now you'll see some cutting. Posted by: lowandslow Toss 3 cutting remarks at Kerry. He'll take his 3 purple hearts and quit.

220 "Isn't that corpulent bastard overdue for a stroke or something?" Why yes! Yes, I am. Why do you ask? Seriously: Humoring the violence veto has no place in civilized society. We have it here in abundance, and it is not confined only to the left and their "Why do they hate us?" There are people of the right who have told me that maintaining the cap on the public debt is irresponsible because laying so much as a speed bump in front of the redistributionist machine would result in our cities' erupting in riots. I confronted one such conservative person (close to me IRL) over that and even invoked his code-of-conduct training WRT fixing responsibility for actions on the actors. His response was that so long as the resulting chaos is avoidable, we should take whatever pains we can to avoid it. The end. This is the blueprint for the other side's victory, and I am awaiting Amnesty International's taking my side against me when they learn of how tight an us/them line I live within.

221 ¿Dondé esta los trancripts?

222 If the shit really hits the fan, you don't know which way the enlisted will jump.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 06:37 PM (Hx5uv)

 

Well, if unions are involved in the riots, we know where the police are going to jump.  I.E. Wisconson.

223 The poor and the rich are protected.  Only the middle class worker ants pay the bills.  The middle class will be the only ones to get hit with the "tax the rich" mantra.  The middle class should just quit.  Let the poor and the rich pay the bills for a change.

224
a tax cheating gigolo, a ninny, and a fool in a room together

/rips envelope

Who are John Kerry, Patty Murray, and Max Baucus?

225

Well, he is being portrayed as the poor innocent victim. Stories claiming he never shot his gun etc.

yes the police commission released a report saying the "poor innocent victim's" weapon hadn't been fired. Though at this point I am suspicious of anything the government says about the incident.

226 I wonder if they've suspended those Visit London radio commercials they always play on WCBS in New York? I never DID understand why someone living in the Greatest City in The World, the City that Never Sleeps, would waste time visiting another big city.

227 From the sidebar link about California Doomin' on a  (Economic) Winter's Day:

"Gov. Jerry Brown and state lawmakers patched up the final $4 billion of CaliforniaÂ’s budget shortfall this year by hoping for a windfall economic recovery." 

Yeah, I've got a similar plan regarding losing weight.  I'm going to hope that it magically falls off.

228

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 09, 2011 06:40 PM (kUaEF)

 

I thank you for expanding your remarks.

 

 

229 @230: no problem. I really WAS trying to aim the snark at Libs that in the 1960's laid so much of the groundwork for the present mess we find ourselves in.

230 If that's the way Reid want's to play it McConnell should counter with Rubio, Paul and DeMint. Yet why do I think it'll be McCain, Snowe and Graham?

231 Joan, Patty, and Max.  Imagine the possibilities.

232 You lost me at "CNN Poll".

CNN wouldn't know an accurate sample if it bit them on the ass.  The fact they don't state the party affiliation breakdown in the poll tells me they are hiding it.

If CNN holds true to form, there are probably 14 to 20% more democrats than republicans in the poll.  Add that to the fact they polled only adults and the actual results probably should have been the opposite of these.

233
Don't hold your breath, Guvnah Moonbeam.

hahahahaha you old fool

Fuck you and your state.

234

England Twenty-First Century:  Wars of the Posers

Entire Rest of the World Right Now: The Fallacious Period

235 Well, Czech, for all of New York's greatness, they don't have the Tower of Lonon, the Vatican, the Eiffel Tower, or the Vagina Rock.

236 228. Because they are 'curious'? ******Runs away*******

237 Yeah, I've got a similar plan regarding losing weight.  I'm going to hope that it magically falls off.

I call it my strategic calorie reserve.

238 _{Well, if unions are involved in the riots, we know where the police are going to jump.  I.E. Wisconsin.}

The police will not be our friends if this kind of rioting and violence becomes wider spread here.

The fuckin lazy ass union cops are not going to bother tracking down 900 individual armed thug maggots in hoodies when they can just arrest me at home for shooting at the maggots. They have my address and phone number in the phone book.

Especially in LA where we have the La Raza Mecha Aztlan Mayor and city council.

239 So which is it... the GOP in Congress wisely adopted Boehner Plan v17.0, in order to avoid MFM blame. But now polls say the GOP is unpopular with CNN's hand-picked adults. Almost as if the advice to pass The Best Deal Available in order to avoid blame was... bad advice. Debt debate hurts GOP? Even after giving in? Anyone think if the GOP had agreed to tax increases, they wouldn't be getting blame for the stingy size of revenue enhancements? Like everything, the GOP gives you cancer. Building a strategy based on appeasing the MFM is not a likely route to success. One must consider their overarching spin, but nevertheless politics is not entirely perception. It's also actual policy, which changes the direction of real events, which changes perceptions. We heard something like the following from conservatives during the debt hysteria. We can't afford to keep spending so much, so cut a few billlion. But we can't cut entire departments, we cannot possible cut hundreds of billions in a single year; even if we had the votes, it would create Economic Turmoil! Thousands of government workers unemployed! A drag on the economy because now they earn no money yet receive unemployment benefits! A cry of "we must cut, but we can't cut!" As if there is a Goldilocks number out there that will be just right to cut, if only the GOP had the power and votes. Bollocks. The massive coercive intrusion of gubmint into the economy distorts and misallocates resources. Any reallocation will cause pain to some, but if you think a free market allocates scarce resources better than a government that puts a gun to your head and takes your stuff, then the gun-mugging must stop. That means the beneficiaries of the muggers (government) will lose, but the rest of us will be more free to manage our lives and property. Is this upheaval? You bet. Is government the size we have now a fully erect chrome-plated ass-raping? Absolutely. But if you want the mugger-love to stop, you can't expect to keep getting little caresses. The trouble is we have so metastasized government into our lives that extricating it will be like a long, painful oncology treatment, peeling out tendrils of cancer. Don't think it can be done slowly to avoid the pain; it still grows while you try to remove it. But pain doesn't sell, hence the notion that our dilemma is not susceptible to political solution in the long run. We may not be able to finish government, but government will finish us, parasite killing the host.

240
Snowe would be okay because she's pretending to be conservative until her next election in '12.

Graham is a possibility, but not McCain. More likely Scott Brown.

241

i'm with Ace on this one, i don't think this poll says as much as the MFM would like it to, the polls presented to the public are mostly intended to lead public opinion rather than report it.

 

242 Fuck you and your state.

Thanks ass.

243

Because they are 'curious'?

******Runs away*******

Don't get that shit started so early tonight Joe.  The night is too young for that.

244 Or even the Tower of London. But NYC does have the Ewok and that curious troll.

245
Any news on the picks for the 3 Dems from the House?

246 Obama made it through Harvard without writing a paper.

Obama voted present in the Senate.

He won't bother with any budget plan.

247 209 We have 3 AF bases and 1 army base.

If the shit really hits the fan, you don't know which way the enlisted will jump.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 09, 2011 06:37 PM (Hx5uv)

After 10 years at war.  Yes, I know exactly how it would go down.

248

You know this will not end well.

Don't you?

249

Big Boo!

uh huh thats right

250 Any news on the picks for the 3 Dems from the House?

  Probably Barney Frank,Maxine Waters, and  Debbie Washerwoman Schultz...

251
Thanks ass.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose

oh sorry, did you take that personally?

In that case let me extend my fuck you to you, too.

252 240 _{Well, if unions are involved in the riots, we know where the police are going to jump.  I.E. Wisconsin.}

The police will not be our friends if this kind of rioting and violence becomes wider spread here.

The fuckin lazy ass union cops are not going to bother tracking down 900 individual armed thug maggots in hoodies when they can just arrest me at home for shooting at the maggots. They have my address and phone number in the phone book.

Especially in LA where we have the La Raza Mecha Aztlan Mayor and city council.

Posted by: sifty at August 09, 2011 06:51 PM (ECjvn)

I'm lucky.  I live outside Colorado Springs and the El Paso County sheriff's dept is solid.  Very very good men and women.  CSPD, I can't speak for, however.

253 Any news on the picks for the 3 Dems from the House?

Posted by: soothsayer carnak the magnificent at August 09, 2011 06:52 PM (LmrWy)

Hank Johnson, Shiela Jackson Lee and Dennis Kucinich.

254 CNN wouldn't know an accurate sample if it bit them on the ass.  The fact they don't state the party affiliation breakdown in the poll tells me they are hiding it.

If CNN holds true to form, there are probably 14 to 20% more democrats than republicans in the poll.  Add that to the fact they polled only adults and the actual results probably should have been the opposite of these.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at August 09, 2011 06:48 PM (uVlA4)

 

CNN got called on their biased mix last year so they fixed it. They quit publishing the mix. It is whatever they want it to be.

255 Any news on the picks for the 3 Dems from the House?

Look through the ethics committee list

256 "The fuckin lazy ass union cops are not going to bother tracking down 900 individual armed thug maggots in hoodies when they can just arrest me at home for shooting at the maggots." Heh. I lost my keys over there, but I'm looking over here because the light's better.

257 255 Any news on the picks for the 3 Dems from the House?

Posted by: soothsayer carnak the magnificent at August 09, 2011 06:52 PM (LmrWy)

Hank Johnson, Shiela Jackson Lee and Dennis Kucinich.

Posted by: Osama bin Truck Monkey, TEArrorist at August 09, 2011 06:57 PM (jucos)

Too bad William "Cold Cash" Jefferson got indicted...he'd have been PERFECT

258 Any news on the picks for the 3 Dems from the House? ========== Hank Johnson, Shiela Jackson Lee and Dennis Kucinich. That roster might qualify the SuperFriends Committee as a lighter-than-air vehicle.

259 Boner and Mcgobbler were saying  last week that only staunch fiscal hawks will be considered for the Super Duper Committee

260

 I live outside Colorado Springs and the El Paso County sheriff's dept is solid

We could be neighbors.

261

The fuckin lazy ass union cops are not going to bother tracking down 900 individual armed thug maggots in hoodies when they can just arrest me at home for shooting at the maggots.

Posted by: sifty


Buy a hoody.  Go walking in the crowd.

262 _{I'm lucky.  I live outside Colorado Springs and the El Paso County sheriff's dept is solid.  Very very good men and women.  CSPD, I can't speak for, however.}

Cops in California are pretty good. Unless they happen to feel like beating you to death on that day.

263 Re: John Kerry

Harry made that decision in consultation with his pomegranates.

264 Buy a hoody.  Go walking in the crowd.

I like the way you think

265 I wonder if Greg is going to show up on any threads tonight to explain how he his a conservative but they are going to lose in wisconsin because of blah blah blah bullshit.

266
If Reid is picking tax evaders, Pelosi should choose Rangle.

267 Where is curious, by the way.  I guess she didn't get banned yesterday.  (Oops.  Was that the third mention of her name?)

268 oh sorry, did you take that personally?

In that case let me extend my fuck you to you, too.

Yeah, I figured you didn't give a F* about anyone still living in the State who are F*ing chained to this sinking ship like slaves on a galley.

269 “Unless things change and Obama can run on accomplishments, he will have to kill Romney,” said a prominent Democratic strategist aligned with the White House according to Ben Smith and Jonathan Martin @ Politico.

"Kill."

Violently Radical Obama Administration

270 215

We're not Democrats - we don't govern by poll results.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 09, 2011 06:39 PM (AEA92)

Well, perhaps we could swing more independent votes our way if we did. Ever think of that?

271 Any news on the picks for the 3 Dems from the House?

I can see Pelosi appoint herself. She's ready for her closeup.

272 _{Buy a hoody.  Go walking in the crowd.}

I think certain aspects of the crime scene would be too readily apparent to the arriving law enforcement personnel and the remaining rioters to allow my rapid integration into the collective.

273 Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 06:51 PM (AZGON)

THIS!

274
Right, dummy. You gonna cry? I call my friend Japan Tsunami and have him wipe CA off the map.

Cryin over comments at AoS...

275 @271 Yet another exhibit for Ace's extensive Collection of Civility.

276 264 _{I'm lucky.  I live outside Colorado Springs and the El Paso County sheriff's dept is solid.  Very very good men and women.  CSPD, I can't speak for, however.}

Cops in California are pretty good. Unless they happen to feel like beating you to death on that day.

Posted by: sifty at August 09, 2011 07:00 PM (ECjvn)

Last encounter I had with an El Paso County deputy... first thing I always do is inform them that I'm armed.  He waved his hands and rolled his eyes and said "yeah... everyone out here is.  We actually appreciate it."

277

CURIOUS CURIOUS CURIOUS!

*Like Beetle Juice..... Is she here?*

278 Regarding all the reports of riots around the world: I suspect it also has as a component that there is a growing lack of trust in the governing institutions--from the parasites who feed on the body public fearful that the easy life is about to end to the producers who've been bleed dry with no benefit.

Why fight for your property when you know that you've been barely hanging on, paying more and more taxes all the while seeing those taxes go to those who are now looting? And what have you gotten for your troubles? Did the people who  you've paid thousands and thousands over the years help? Did their promises that if they just took a little more from you to give to "them" and then "them" would become more like you work out?

It's a form of going Galt.

Where do you think the why so many on the right are saying "let it burn?" Because it's a sort of honesty to self: "I didn't quit, my shop was burned to the ground, the economic collapse took everything, etc."

They want to quit feeding the alligator, they just need a push.

So, yeah: Let it burn.

279 Sen. John F'n Kerry will find the Waste, Fraud & Abuse (Still the Undisputed Hide & Seek Champion Of the U.S. budget) like he found POW/MIAs in Viet Nam.

280 Uh-oh.  Things are heating up in Israel:

A final cause for the surge in Israeli discontent is a diffuse but widespread sense that the state is falling under the sway of small but powerful interest groups: IsraelÂ’s clique of business tycoons is one such group. The fast-growing ultra-Orthodox community and IsraelÂ’s West Bank settlers are other examples.

The ultra-Orthodox have long drawn the ire of IsraelÂ’s more secular middle class. Not only do they depend on generous state handouts to support their large families, but most also refuse to serve in the Israeli army. The settlers, meanwhile, enjoy cheap, subsidised housing and benefit from public services that are far superior to those available to Israelis living inside the Green Line.

281 OT -

BREAKING: @JohnKingUSA reporting Obama admin to call for #Syria president al-Assad to step down. New sanctions planned.

The chinless ophthalmologist must be shaking in his 1,000 dollar loafers.

282 Colorado may be a good place to go after we get out of the sunny toilet.

Depends on how you all vote in this next election. We have already agreed not to move to any state that goes for Obama in 2012.

283

but most also refuse to serve in the Israeli army

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2011 07:05 PM (UOM4

I thought you had to serve in the Israeli army. I didn't think one could refuse.

284 A final cause for the surge in Israeli discontent is a diffuse but widespread sense that the state is falling under the sway of small but powerful interest groups:

I've heard Michael Savage mention Israel's Russian mafia problem as one reason Israel today isn't the Israel your parents knew.

285 BREAKING: @JohnKingUSA reporting Obama admin to call for #Syria president al-Assad to step down. New sanctions planned.

The chinless ophthalmologist must be shaking in his 1,000 dollar loafers.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 09, 2011 07:06 PM (c0A3e)

I'd pay money to see Assad call for Obama to step down.

286 LEAVE CURIOUS ALONE!!!

287 <sub>BREAKING: @JohnKingUSA reporting Obama admin to call for #Syria president al-Assad to step down. New sanctions planned.

The chinless ophthalmologist must be shaking in his 1,000 dollar loafers.</sub>

Alternate headline:

Candy-Ass Tries To Butch Up As Distraction From Economy

288 287 Colorado may be a good place to go after we get out of the sunny toilet.

Depends on how you all vote in this next election. We have already agreed not to move to any state that goes for Obama in 2012.

Posted by: sifty at August 09, 2011 07:07 PM (ECjvn)

Just stay south of Denver.  Fkn hippies galore up there.  It's like the DMZ 15 miles south of Denver.  Southern and Eastern colorado:  ranchers, cowboys... it's kinda like Texas but not as hot.

289 BREAKING: @JohnKingUSA reporting Obama admin to call for #Syria president al-Assad to step down. New sanctions planned. Thirty months late and several thousand Syrian lives short. That Barry, she's always out in front. Focused like a laser beam. A champion of the fierce urgency of sometime in the future, down the road, later on, when he has time and the green is being resodded.

290 _{I thought you had to serve in the Israeli army. I didn't think one could refuse.}

I think it is like the draft was here. If you know the right people you can get out of it.

291 My G-d.  The headline and photo at Drudge is.....terrifying.

292

Posted by: sifty at August 09, 2011 07:07 PM (ECjvn)

Texas!  And remember you're always welcome on whatever plot of land I happen to land up on in Texas once my exodus is complete. 

293 Watching the entire 63 episodes of Friday Night Lights on Netflix. 

Tyra is the hottest 6 feet of woman I've ever seen.

294

I think a  self-proclaimed Mensa applicant like her should know better then to come back.

Posted by: Downrated Upscale at August 09, 2011 07:05 PM (IhHdM)

 

Don't worry.  We have many others to take curious' place.

 

 

295
298 That would be your Texodus

296 Lol.  Go to Drudge and scroll down a bit to the cover of the Sun.

They're onto us!

297 The headline and photo at Drudge is.....terrifying. Calm down. That's just a breakout session.

298 We've got horses, cattle, elk, rifles and water.  Colorado:  where you want to be when the shit hits the fan.

299 Lol.  Go to Drudge and scroll down a bit to the cover of the Sun.

They're onto us!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2011 07:12 PM (UOM4

I just saw that! LOL!

300 No way would we move to Denver. Everyone I ever met from Denver was an asshole and a lib. I can have that here.

The American Dream is out there somewhere. We just have to look.

I want to live somewhere nice where my son be free and love America and can marry a good Christian country girl with big titties who can bake a good apple pie.

301 Fox reporting a British "far-right group leader" says 1,000 members are going to take to the streets against the protesters.

Things are getting very interesting now.

302 298 That would be your Texodus

lol, indeed.  The lack of water and extreme heat will be a challenge at first, but people adapt. 

303 A British Tea party?

304 Fox reporting a British "far-right group leader" says 1,000 members are going to take to the streets against the protesters. Suddenly the Met cops will find sufficient reason to use water cannon and bullets, about 1,000 of them.

305
_{lol, indeed.  The lack of water and extreme heat will be a challenge at first, but people adapt.}

Remember, I grew up in Blythe, California. I know from hot and dry.

306

Posted by: sifty at August 09, 2011 07:10 PM (ECjvn)

Ok. Thanks.

307 I'm wanting to put on AC/DC's Thunderstruck, crank it to 10 and raise the Gadsden flag.

308 _{Suddenly the Met cops will find sufficient reason to use water cannon and bullets, about 1,000 of them.}

Yup.

309  _{I thought you had to serve in the Israeli army. I didn't think one could refuse.}

I think it is like the draft was here. If you know the right people you can get out of it.

Posted by: sifty at August 09, 2011 07:10 PM (ECjvn)

Not true.  They can refuse to serve based on their religious convictions (Haredi and Hassidic).  It has been that way since the founding of the state.  My father in law hated hassids in part because of this.

310 Drudge:

Zone 40 camera is racist.

311 Hey, Tami.  If you're still here, I want to buy a gun, too.  We never did get around to it when the kid was home on leave. 

I want something that will kill, not piss off, a thug.  But I want it to be cute, too.

312

I'm wanting to put on AC/DC's Thunderstruck, crank it to 10 and raise the Gadsden flag.

Cut.  Jib.  Newsletter?

313 The American Dream is out there somewhere. We just have to look.

I want to live somewhere nice where my son be free and love America and can marry a good Christian country girl with big titties who can bake a good apple pie.

Posted by: sifty the tearorist at August 09, 2011 07:14 PM (ECjvn)

And really, is that too much to ask?

314 There is only one way to deal with a mob. Smash it. Ruthlessly.

315 Not true.

Glad to hear it. I am glad to hear that rumor is bullshit.

But didn't some retarded supermodel just refuse to do her enlistment because she was too busy?

316

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 09, 2011 07:18 PM (G/MYk)

Posted by: Osama bin Truck Monkey, TEArrorist at August 09, 2011 07:19 PM (jucos)

Thank you both for the clarifications.

317 314 I'm wanting to put on AC/DC's Thunderstruck, crank it to 10 and raise the Gadsden flag.

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:19 PM (x3YFz)

Go for it.  But crank it to eleven.

318 Posted by: sifty at August 09, 2011 07:03 PM (ECjvn)

What? A nice tightly grouped double-tap?

319

I want to live somewhere nice where my daughter son be free and love America and can marry a good Catholic Christian country girl with a cute little apple shaped bottom. big titties who can bake a good pecan apple pie.
Posted by: sifty the tearorist at August 09, 2011 07:14 PM (ECjvn)

Sorry, I had to change the recipe according to taste

320 Keep in mind that "far right" in Europe means neo-Nazi.

321

I'm wanting to put on AC/DC's Thunderstruck, crank it to 10 and raise the Gadsden flag.

Cut.  Jib.  Newsletter?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 09, 2011 07:20 PM (HUZDZ)

YouTube something along the lines of AC/DC Thunderstuck Live at Donington.

The crowd literally extends to the horizon.

322 I want something that will kill, not piss off, a thug.  But I want it to be cute, too.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2011 07:19 PM (UOM4

 

I'd love to follow you around in a gun show just to see the faces of the dealers. 

323

I'd love to follow you around in a gun show just to see the faces of the dealers. 

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 09, 2011 07:24 PM (pcFc3)

Heh.  I love to tell my son that just to piss him off.

324 Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 09, 2011 07:08 PM (GKQDR)

The Hasidim (ultra-orthodox) may opt out of national service. Most of the other orthodox (modern orthodox) serve, and often with distinction. In many communities it is a point of pride to serve, and serve well.

325 _{YouTube something along the lines of AC/DC Thunderstuck Live at Donington.}

I like the Battle Hymn of the Republic and Dixie as much as anybody but CWII would have a kick-ass rock and roll soundtrack.

326 Hey, Tami.  If you're still here, I want to buy a gun, too.  We never did get around to it when the kid was home on leave. 

I want something that will kill, not piss off, a thug.  But I want it to be cute, too.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2011 07:19 PM (UOM4

I'm going to go fire some and see which ones I like and can handle accurately.

327 Another difference in the British rioting news. The man killed - ostensibly the cause of the rioting - has yet to be declared a former honor student. That seems to be de rigeur over here. Everybody's a fucking honor student. Disproportionately so among gang bangers to boot. Or so it seems.

328 Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2011 07:23 PM (M9Ie6)

You haven't been listening to Obama's minions. It means the same thing here.

329 The American Dream is out there somewhere. We just have to look.

I want to live somewhere nice where my son be free and love America and can marry a good Christian country girl with big titties who can bake a good apple pie.

Posted by: sifty the tearorist at August 09, 2011 07:14 PM (ECjvn)

find a place, dig in.  As long as it's not Kalifornia.  I lived there for 3 years and doubled the speed limit when we crossed the state line on the way out.

330 Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:11 PM (x3YFz)

I approve of your taste. Well done.

331 When Israel gets really attacked nobody has a choice but to fight back. There ain't a lot of room for pussies to hide. They are better off taking the training and doing their part now. It might save their lives later.

332 Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2011 07:19 PM (UOM4

You can get a pistol hard-anodized in different colors. I have sen them in blue and pink.

333 334 Hey, Tami.  If you're still here, I want to buy a gun, too.  We never did get around to it when the kid was home on leave. 

I want something that will kill, not piss off, a thug.  But I want it to be cute, too.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2011 07:19 PM (UOM4

I'm going to go fire some and see which ones I like and can handle accurately.

Posted by: Tami at August 09, 2011 07:26 PM (X6akg)

Sig P229.  My wife is five foot 0, weighs 91lbs.  she loves that pistol and it's Tier One kit gear.

334 I want something that will kill, not piss off, a thug.  But I want it to be cute, too.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2011 07:19 PM (UOM4

I think bazookas are cute. Paint it pink.

 

335 My wife found a nice place in Tennessee for $129,000 last night on the internet with a good 200yds of land on every side.

You can't buy a vacant lot for that here.

If I had the money we'd be packing today.

336 I'm wagging that dog, Syria. Everyone watch!

And ignore Libya. Bitch set me up!

337

Sig P229.  My wife is five foot 0, weighs 91lbs.  she loves that pistol and it's Tier One kit gear.

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:30 PM (x3YFz)

That gun is mentioned often so I'm definitely checking it out.  Thanks Tango.

338 Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:11 PM (x3YFz)

But...don't let your wife see Tim Riggins. My wife is still drooling.

339 Excellent blog, thanks for the share. I'll be a regular viewer.

340 The world is rioting.  You know, I've really got to admit that, in my own twisted sense, I'm kind of enjoying the spectacle.  Oops.  Time for my counseling session.

341 Oh and let me add something more: Here in the US we all know that the only way out of our mess is for the bad debt to be cleansed from the system. We tried to paper it over with trillions stolen from the middle class in the form of bailouts. We tried to paper it over by allowing trillions more to be stolen from the middle class through high-frequency trading and other unethical and illegal acts never brought to heal by the SEC.

Who holds all the bad debt? Your neighbor? You? Your church friends?

NO!

It's in the form of banks, Wall Street firms, investment houses, and a big chunk through investments made by retirement funds (the biggest players here being public pensions).

So: What happens if the debt is forced to be flushed from the system? Real life, real time, right now? You can't get credit. That's about it as far as a personal effect. That's all I see. Some of you are going to take a big hit in your retirement.* But, the days of credit are dead. Because the vast majority of the money in this country is not in the physical form.

Think about it: Bank of America goes down, wiped out, billions and billions lost on paper. How is that going to affect you? Your money is insured by your tax dollars--if you're stupid enough to bank there (and if you are banking with BoA, Wells, or Citi--you're a dumbass). Who is going to lose money? The very self-same sons-a-bitches who caused this whole mess! Who've been getting bailed out and stealing from us to try to fend off their day of reckoning!

Here's the thing: The people who ought to suffer, the people who caused this, the people who are still riding high will not--can not--suffer until their firms, their entities are wiped out. It's an ugly truth but the stock market must be destroyed. While some Americans have over the years been able to build wealth through such investing, on balance, it is nothing now but a game rigged by the connected. It's original purpose, allowing companies to raise capital, has been dead and buried for near on several decades. No more does a company need to sell stock on Wall Street to raise capital. That myth is a polite fiction, a facade over the real purpose: It is a gambling house for gambling houses playing with your money--they all win, we all lose.

Now, don't get me wrong here, thinking I'm advocating a bash-the-rich or some such. Poor people don't hire and poor people don't build companies. But, its getting down to crunch-time and there will be winners and losers, who do you want to win? The guys who played by the rules or the guys who cheated and burned us all?

*so, you want to protect your retirement investments in the stock market? And what leads you to believe any of the current paths and proposals are going to do that?

342 _{You know, I've really got to admit that, in my own twisted sense, I'm kind of enjoying the spectacle.}

It's the morbid, sick fascination to see what exactly is going to come out when a boil is finally lanced.

It's human nature.

343 I want something that will kill, not piss off, a thug.  But I want it to be cute, too.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2011 07:19 PM (UOM4

Sig P232.  .380 auto, called 9mm kurz (for "short") by the Germans that initiated the cartridge.  In Jennifer Lopez's breakout movie, Out of Sight, she plays a federal marshal, and she carries one.  Her dad, a retired Miami cop, gave it to her as a present.

A great-looking weapon to be found in the folds of a purse.

344 It's the 60s all over again. Yippeee

345

Soona - Tearorrist at August 09, 2011 07:32 PM (pcFc3)

As I said yesterday, I am oddly ok with what is going on in the world.  Going Galt I guess. 

346 Posted by: Jimmuy at August 09, 2011 07:33 PM (QY0N1)

Do we all become "agrarian reformers" then?

347 347 Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:11 PM (x3YFz)

But...don't let your wife see Tim Riggins. My wife is still drooling.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2011 07:32 PM (LH6ir)

I caught her ass oogling Riggins.  S'ok.  Mamma gets to enjoy the eye candy as much as daddy does.  She's human, and it lets me know she's still got that motor running.

Don't even make me tell the batman story.  She loves Christian Bale.

348

Do we all become "agrarian reformers" then?

That worked out really well for Mao and Stalin too.

349 Sig P232.  .380 auto, called 9mm kurz (for "short") by the Germans that initiated the cartridge.  In Jennifer Lopez's breakout movie, Out of Sight, she plays a federal marshal, and she carries one.  Her dad, a retired Miami cop, gave it to her as a present.

A great-looking weapon to be found in the folds of a purse.

Posted by: Typical low-info voter who actually votes at August 09, 2011 07:34 PM (4sQwu)

Thanks!

350 Sifty. What state do you live in now?

351 352 I want something that will kill, not piss off, a thug.  But I want it to be cute, too.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2011 07:19 PM (UOM4

Sig P232.  .380 auto, called 9mm kurz (for "short") by the Germans that initiated the cartridge.  In Jennifer Lopez's breakout movie, Out of Sight, she plays a federal marshal, and she carries one.  Her dad, a retired Miami cop, gave it to her as a present.

A great-looking weapon to be found in the folds of a purse.

Posted by: Typical low-info voter who actually votes at August 09, 2011 07:34 PM (4sQwu)

In general I disagree.  No one should carry a caliber below .40, especially if they're not highly trained in close combat.  They'll get of 2 maybe 3 rounds at most, 1 of which will hit and it needs to count.

A 9mm to the lower abdomen isn't going to stop a meth head.  a .45 hollow point will.  First round is the most important round.

352 We get the weirdest spam here.  Srsly.

353

In general I disagree.  No one should carry a caliber below .40, especially if they're not highly trained in close combat.  They'll get of 2 maybe 3 rounds at most, 1 of which will hit and it needs to count.

A 9mm to the lower abdomen isn't going to stop a meth head.  a .45 hollow point will.  First round is the most important round.

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:40 PM (x3YFz)

*feverishly taking notes*  And my kid told me, "Aim for the head, Mom.  Don't piss 'em off."

354 _{Sifty. What state do you live in now?}

The People's Revolutionary Open Air Special Education Class of California

355 and if you carry, spend $300 on a close combat pistol course.  You'll learn enough to make you confident when the shit hits the fan.

356

*feverishly taking notes* And my kid told me, "Aim for the head, Mom. Don't piss 'em off."

Pros can go for the head.  Everyone else needs to hit center mass.

Hence the reason for a larger caliber

357 I don't know about any of you other combat vets, but the first time someone shot at ME with the intent of killing me, I was shaking like a tuning fork.  Training kept my crap wired.  Training and repetition.

358

The People's Revolutionary Open Air Special Education Class of California

Oh, I can see why you would want to leave.

359

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:44 PM (x3YFz)

Me too bud.  Me too

360 and then I threw up.

361

I didn't hurl.

But I did notice some moisture

362 370

I didn't hurl.

But I did notice some moisture

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 09, 2011 07:47 PM (HUZDZ)

I had just come from chow.  scrambled eggs, 2 sausages and biscuits and gravy.  glass of OJ and a bottle of water.  What a waste.

363 tangonine, I assume you live in El Paso County. Which part?

364 I don't know about any of you other combat vets, but the first time someone shot at ME with the intent of killing me, I was shaking like a tuning fork.  Training kept my crap wired.  Training and repetition.

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:44 PM (x3YFz)

 

Heh.  That's the brick wall of reality we hit.  I know the feeling. 

365 372 tangonine, I assume you live in El Paso County. Which part?

Posted by: Ronster at August 09, 2011 07:50 PM (Oz+gx)

Just east of Peterson AFB, about halfway to Schriever.

366 _{Oh, I can see why you would want to leave.}

Leave? That's putting it mildly.

Collect all the Morons and nuke it from orbit more like.

367 357

Do we all become "agrarian reformers" then?

That worked out really well for Mao and Stalin too.

Hell no. I'm just saying we have a huge problem that will knock us right back down until we deal with it in our financial institutions. We can solve the problems of government spending, we can solve the problems of public unions. But until we root out the driving force behind the boom-and-bust bubble economies, we will never recover. The massive accumulation of power in the too-big-to-fail is a drag on the economy. Monopoly stifles innovation and freedom and it's time we looked at these firms through the lens of anti-trust law. The financial monopoly currently enjoyed by these firms today is no different than the communication, transportation or energy monopolies of yesterday--the difference is, they have "invested" far more in their regulators and politicians, partnered far more with the government than those monopolies thought possible.

I'm saying we ought be looking at their contribution to this shared sacrifice that keeps being tossed around.

368 The world is rioting.  You know, I've really got to admit that, in my own twisted sense, I'm kind of enjoying the spectacle.  Oops.  Time for my counseling session.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 09, 2011 07:32 PM (pcFc3)

 

It has to happen to wake everybody up. These rioters are parasitic losers who are a minority in most free places. I hope the cocksuckers burn a few more city blocks and piss regular folk off enough to fight back.

Their government sure doesn't seem to give a fuck.

 

369

Just east of Peterson AFB, about halfway to Schriever.

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:51 PM (x3YFz)

I'm not too far away. East of Falcon.

370 Let me be clear:  I'm not infantry, and I was shot at ONE time in my life during ONE deployment.  I do not want to give the impression "I've been in the shit" because I haven't.

Was just offering my 1 time underwear-changing experience.

371 I was in a couple of knife fights, does that count?

372 378

Just east of Peterson AFB, about halfway to Schriever.

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:51 PM (x3YFz)

I'm not too far away. East of Falcon.

Posted by: Ronster at August 09, 2011 07:54 PM (Oz+gx)

Heh.  so you also have to deal with internet from El Paso County Telephone

373 380 I was in a couple of knife fights, does that count?

Posted by: cherry π at August 09, 2011 07:55 PM (OhYCU)

absolutely.

374 The public is in 'tax the rich' mode.

Fine.  Give 'em a big tax on Hollywood.  Give 'em 'carried interest' taxation.

We can live with that. 

Tax the rich...Democrats.

375

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:54 PM (x3YFz)

The qualification was not required. You've already done more than 98% of your countrymen.

376 @360 In general I disagree.  No one should carry a caliber below .40, especially if they're not highly trained in close combat.  They'll get of 2 maybe 3 rounds at most, 1 of which will hit and it needs to count.

A 9mm to the lower abdomen isn't going to stop a meth head.  a .45 hollow point will.  First round is the most important round.

My recommendation of the Sig was for Jane D'oh, who wanted a good looking gun.

My stopper is an HK 45, which has its own kind of prettiness.

377 Let me be clear:  I'm not infantry, and I was shot at ONE time in my life during ONE deployment.  I do not want to give the impression "I've been in the shit" because I haven't.

Was just offering my 1 time underwear-changing experience.

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:54 PM (x3YFz)

 

My first time was a mortar attack.  Just hide and hope.

378 Elementary school was tough around here.

379

Heh.  so you also have to deal with internet from El Paso County Telephone

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:55 PM (x3YFz)

No. El Paso Telephone doesn't come this far north. I have qwest DSL, which is pretty good.

380 385

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:54 PM (x3YFz)

The qualification was not required. You've already done more than 98% of your countrymen.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 09, 2011 07:57 PM (HUZDZ)

I appreciate it.  I'm just hyper sensitive to people that... well... you get the idea.  I have too much respect for my brothers to do that.

381 389

Heh.  so you also have to deal with internet from El Paso County Telephone

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:55 PM (x3YFz)

No. El Paso Telephone doesn't come this far north. I have qwest DSL, which is pretty good.

Posted by: Ronster at August 09, 2011 07:59 PM (Oz+gx)

Oh, well lucky you!  I'm out here with the cows.  Near the Sheriff's stables off Bradley.

382 387 Let me be clear:  I'm not infantry, and I was shot at ONE time in my life during ONE deployment.  I do not want to give the impression "I've been in the shit" because I haven't.

Was just offering my 1 time underwear-changing experience.

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:54 PM (x3YFz)

 

My first time was a mortar attack.  Just hide and hope.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 09, 2011 07:58 PM (pcFc3)

full battle rattle and stare at your toes.  THAT I've done lol.

383

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:59 PM (x3YFz)

I understand.  For the record, between indirect and direct, it was 9 times for me.

That's my joke with my wife, I used up my nine lives so now she wants to wrap me in bubble wrap.

384 393

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 07:59 PM (x3YFz)

I understand.  For the record, between indirect and direct, it was 9 times for me.

That's my joke with my wife, I used up my nine lives so now she wants to wrap me in bubble wrap.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 09, 2011 08:02 PM (HUZDZ)

sounds kinky! lol

385

CNN poll?? surely it cant be skewed at all can it ? What are the numbers who was asked ? They dont give you that data will they ? So its caca.

 

386 396 I donÂ’t usually add my comments, but I will in this case. Nice work. I look forward to reading more.

Posted byt August 09, 2011 08:05 PM (t2slK)

the chinese spammers are upping their game.

387 The spammers here creep me the hell out. 

And I just want to say, I love each and every one of you guys who served, infantry or not.

388

Oh, well lucky you!  I'm out here with the cows.  Near the Sheriff's stables off Bradley.

I have cows and horses near me also. Not mine. Maybe we should meet up somewhere sometime. I'm not trying to be pushy.

389 Yeah. Thanks guys for doing the thing.

We appreciate it.

390 Maybe somebody can help me out here. (?)
Whenever a certain poll cites 'Adults' as the core of its respondents...
Does that also include Juveniles who have been or are currently being tried as 'Adults'?

391 Wow, results looking good so far.

392 Ace, I think you're on the nose about Dems' unwillingness to offer their own budget.  That's actually a brilliant move on their part, because it means that if there is to be any reduction in spending, it'll have to come from Republicans.

That puts the GOP in the position of having to be the mean parent who enforces a grounding on a rebellious kid.  Fully half the electorate will think, "Why should I vote for those pricks who want to cut my 'freebies' when I can vote for the Democrat, who's promised to keep 'em coming and then some?"

You concluded, "The GOP is therefore offering tough medicine. This tough medicine is not polling well, but also not catastrophically. The GOP is actually offering its agenda, and that agenda is full of tough, unpopular stuff."

Bingo.  But then you conclude, "At some point the Democrats will be compelled by circumstance to offer their actual agenda -- and we'll see how that fares when the public understands what they mean by a 'balanced approach.'"

Gotta disagree there.  The 50 percent of the public who don't pay federal income taxes will be delighted by a Democrat promise to increase spending and raise taxes--and whether on "the rich" or on everyone making over $30K a year doesn't matter to them one bit.

Add the five percent of rich, tax-paying but guilty liberals and there's a Dem majority.

Finally, you note that Obama, Reid and Pelosi have implied that closing tax loopholes on corporate jets and taxing the wealthiest one percent will solve all problems, and that this is pure horseshit.  Of course, but to reach that conclusion one must be numerate, literate and well informed.

Fully 52% of the electorate fails one or more of those tests.