September 23, 2011
— Ace Here.
I would quote it, but it's all technical details, and those who want technical details are probably going to want all the technical details.
JohnE sent it to me, to which I replied, "lies, the jews did it"
Since then, we've continued in that vein:
300 Jews were called night before crash and told to go to the dog track instead.
air can't shear steel
Plane fell faster than gravity.
The FBI had an office in the rear of the plane
Larry Silverstein insured plane for $1 billion.
There are probably other important Truth-y objections to this so-called "Popular" "Mechanics" "report."
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Posted by: Truther at September 23, 2011 02:48 PM (vjyZP)
Husband and I have a policy of never going to those things. They just seem like a death wish. We did accidentally see the Chicago Air & Water Show on Lake Michigan one year. We were having brunch at the 95th and the building got buzzed by some sort of jet. Pretty cool, but not something I'd care to repeat.
Posted by: Y-not at September 23, 2011 02:50 PM (5H6zj)
Just how popular is this magazine really? I've never seen any unbiased polls regarding it.
The biggest lie may be up front!
Just sayin'
Posted by: Dadof3 at September 23, 2011 02:52 PM (umKhw)
Posted by: Y-not
...........
Being over water, the Chicago air show is pretty "safe".
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 23, 2011 02:52 PM (UTq/I)
Posted by: Potato Bandit at September 23, 2011 02:53 PM (vj3id)
Posted by: C*ntessa Brewer's Yeast Infection at September 23, 2011 02:54 PM (Ulyg2)
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 02:54 PM (TXKVh)
Posted by: ontherocks at September 23, 2011 02:54 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Tea Party SOB at September 23, 2011 02:54 PM (d0Tfm)
Yeah, but iirc the jet seemed to be pretty darned close to the John Hancock Center (that houses the 95th), which is only a couple of blocks from the lake. Scared the poo out of us until we realized what the heck was happening.
Good brunch, too.
Posted by: Y-not at September 23, 2011 02:54 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Phoenixgirl at September 23, 2011 02:54 PM (+DZLk)
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 02:57 PM (TXKVh)
Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at September 23, 2011 02:57 PM (nRTou)
There were other planes nearby that weren't affected.
There's your proof!
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Tea Party SOB at September 23, 2011 06:54 PM (d0Tfm)
However, at the adjacent field for radio controlled craft, an otherwise intact and undamaged plane plummeted to the earth several hours later ...
Posted by: C*ntessa Brewer's Yeast Infection at September 23, 2011 02:57 PM (Ulyg2)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 02:57 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Benedick at September 23, 2011 02:58 PM (szw2T)
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 02:59 PM (MtwBb)
Husband and I have a policy of never going to those things. They just seem like a death wish.
Posted by: Y-not at September 23, 2011 06:50 PM (5H6zj)
Yeah, I went to my first air show in Dayton two years ago and watched the Thunderbirds perform, among others.
It was badass covered in awesome sauce and the action is right on top of you.
F-16s approaching the speed of sound just a couple hundred feet above your head, one wrong mechanical failure or stress fracture in an aileron and bad news follows.
Posted by: ErikW at September 23, 2011 03:00 PM (CB4n3)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 23, 2011 03:00 PM (F5OMl)
Posted by: Frank and Joe Hardy at September 23, 2011 03:00 PM (BeCiC)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 03:00 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: JB at September 23, 2011 03:01 PM (M28er)
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 03:01 PM (TXKVh)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 03:02 PM (AZGON)
Is it just coincidence that a WAR plane kills people not long after the President proposed scaling down the WAR in Iraq?
Isn't it obvious that someone wired up the plane with explosives in advance, and they just happened to go off when the plane hit the ground?
I'm just asking questions.
Posted by: Splunge at September 23, 2011 03:03 PM (2IW5Q)
With a mosque on the top.
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 03:03 PM (TXKVh)
Posted by: ace at September 23, 2011 03:03 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2011 03:04 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: FireHorse at September 23, 2011 03:04 PM (F5OMl)
Posted by: ace at September 23, 2011 03:04 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: RAUL PON! at September 23, 2011 03:04 PM (11p2u)
Posted by: JB at September 23, 2011 03:04 PM (M28er)
Posted by: ace at September 23, 2011 03:05 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Frank and Joe Hardy at September 23, 2011 03:06 PM (BeCiC)
Posted by: C*ntessa Brewer's Yeast Infection at September 23, 2011 06:57 PM (Ulyg2)
Thankfully for my nose and laptop, I wasn't having a drink of Guinness when I read your nic.
I vote it the thread winner even though it's not technically a comment.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Tea Party SOB at September 23, 2011 03:06 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 03:06 PM (AZGON)
Clearly racism.
Posted by: sifty at September 23, 2011 03:06 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 03:07 PM (TXKVh)
Posted by: No Whining at September 23, 2011 03:07 PM (Ulyg2)
Posted by: Little Morgan Freeman at September 23, 2011 07:03 PM (IhHdM)
I once got busy in a Burger King bathroom!
Posted by: Humpty Hump at September 23, 2011 03:08 PM (CB4n3)
Risky? Absolutely.
But have we become so fearful of death we cannot celebrate or understand the courting of risk?
Posted by: ace at September 23, 2011 07:05 PM (nj1bB)
She did that after a tardisil shot
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 03:08 PM (MtwBb)
So in an incoherent way I wanted to say something like "Let's not overlook the joy and courage here, as we grieve the dead."
That's reasonable, to one part of me. The other part is an engineer, and when I read Popular Mechanics analysis of what that trim tab was subjected to in this situation, I have to say "damn, that shouldn't have happened; one of my tribe should have seen it coming, and done something."
Posted by: Splunge at September 23, 2011 03:08 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: sifty at September 23, 2011 03:09 PM (4CSeG)
The bystanders on the ground did not exactly die doing what they loved, but they were at an air show, and wanted to be there"
Great points, Ace. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Posted by: Zombie David Carradine at September 23, 2011 03:10 PM (TXKVh)
Hell, this is AoSHQ after all. Just spit on your hands and have at it.
I know the proprietor. He's heavily into graphic novel flicks, prolly won't even read this.
Posted by: ontherocks at September 23, 2011 03:10 PM (HBqDo)
This is the predictable outcome of our foreign airplane policy. Chickens coming home on turbo-boost. The Little Curtis LeMays sitting in the stands, taking their photographs and videos, braying into their cell phones and arranging their power lunches, were complicit in that policy.
The hot dog vendors and janitors were of course innocent.
Posted by: Ward Churchill at September 23, 2011 03:10 PM (w41GQ)
Posted by: steevy at September 23, 2011 03:10 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 03:10 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Mahmoud Ahmidinnerjacket at September 23, 2011 03:10 PM (CJIam)
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 03:10 PM (MtwBb)
So in an incoherent way I wanted to say something like "Let's not overlook the joy and courage here, as we grieve the dead."
Seems plenty coherent to me. And isn't that kind of what we're doing here (which, you know, you started) getting a few laughs out of what we all know was a tragedy? So there's not much inherent risk in commenting on your blog, but there is a measure of joy. As for courage, it's unlikely but possible that my next job interview might be with Empire of Jeff.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 23, 2011 03:11 PM (F5OMl)
Posted by: JB at September 23, 2011 03:11 PM (M28er)
One thing that occurred to me when this happened is that the pilot died doing what he loved.
Don't feel bad. You're quite correct in my estimation, my furry friend.
That's what struck me about the Challeger tragedy: we don't often get to witness noble death, although in this case, it's a bit different. Somewhat related, but different nonetheless.
I can think of worse ways to go....
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Tea Party SOB at September 23, 2011 03:11 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Michelle Bachmann at September 23, 2011 03:12 PM (BcpOa)
One of the flight paths for the San Diego Air Show goes right over my house.
All the Blue Angels, less than 1000 feet away. My camera conked out, or I'd have posted pictures.
(The Canadian team went by at about double the distance.)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 23, 2011 03:12 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 03:12 PM (AZGON)
Sounds fishy. I'll bet an intrepid youtuber will blow the lid on this fake-sounding "metal fatigue" business.
Posted by: Waterhouse at September 23, 2011 03:12 PM (11p2u)
Posted by: Phoenixgirl at September 23, 2011 03:12 PM (+DZLk)
This is the work of the IDF. Those bastards piloted that drone all the way from Tel Aviv.
Posted by: Sgt Ed Shultz at September 23, 2011 03:12 PM (I/MzF)
Posted by: Joffen at September 23, 2011 03:12 PM (EPcuy)
(The Canadian team went by at about double the distance.)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 23, 2011 07:12 PM (bjRNS)
They fly over my house during sea fair too, it's pretty cool
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 03:13 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: huerfano at September 23, 2011 03:13 PM (263hv)
Posted by: Phoenixgirl at September 23, 2011 07:12 PM (+DZLk
Aww sorry to hear that. Prayers going up for sure.
Posted by: Sgt Ed Shultz at September 23, 2011 03:13 PM (I/MzF)
Seriously though the daughter of my husbands' friend was seriously cut up and burned in this accident please keep her in your thoughts and prayers
I hope she's doing well.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 23, 2011 03:14 PM (F5OMl)
Posted by: Blaster at September 23, 2011 03:14 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Buzz Killington at September 23, 2011 03:14 PM (BcpOa)
This is the work of the IDF. Those bastards piloted that drone all the way from Tel Aviv.
Isn't Teva Pharmaceuticals from that neck of the woods? First they try to inundate Vanuatu with their asthma "medicine" ....
Posted by: FireHorse at September 23, 2011 03:15 PM (F5OMl)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 03:16 PM (AZGON)
And since Murphy hates you with a righteous burning passion, it will happen when you want it the least. But that's the price paid when you want to push the envelope, only because it's there. I think ace is dead on for this one.
Posted by: GeoSTI at September 23, 2011 03:17 PM (Pm5JB)
Posted by: Joffen at September 23, 2011 03:17 PM (EPcuy)
I can think of worse ways to go....
Me, too. One involves a bottle of Diet Coke, some Mentos, and a certain facility in Morocco.
Posted by: FireHorse at September 23, 2011 03:18 PM (F5OMl)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 03:19 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 07:10 PM (MtwBb
Sounds like me Christmas Day 1964
Posted by: sonnyspats at September 23, 2011 03:19 PM (I/MzF)
Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at September 23, 2011 03:23 PM (nRTou)
Shit! That was mine! I'm tellin' mom!
Posted by: That fat kid popping a zit on his forearm at the mall food court at September 23, 2011 03:23 PM (TXKVh)
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 03:23 PM (MtwBb)
Yeah, marrying a liberal scrunt and dying a slow death...
...of alcohol poisoning. Consider yourself grokked.
And prayers goint out for your friend, Phoenixgirl.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Tea Party SOB at September 23, 2011 03:23 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Rod Serling at September 23, 2011 03:24 PM (AZGON)
O/T - An atty just told Levin there's a 13-year-old federal statute that says if you give in-state tuition to illegals, you have to give it to everyone. I caught the call halfway through, but this guy filed it in CA and lost, which he attributes to liberal judges. Filing in a conservative state like TX is getting ML's blood pumping.
The next hot call asks, "How can Obama grant (ObamaCare) waivers on federal statutes? Levin is quite excited and it's not from any little blue pills.
Because...Barack Hussein Obama is a stuttering clusterfark of a miserable failure.
Posted by: RushBabe at September 23, 2011 03:27 PM (tQHzJ)
Posted by: Barack Obama at September 23, 2011 03:27 PM (3ESDJ)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Tea Party SOB at September 23, 2011 03:27 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of Conspiracy Unicorns at September 23, 2011 03:27 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 23, 2011 03:28 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 03:29 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Dial "S" for Stuttering Clusterf*ck of a Miserable Failure at September 23, 2011 03:30 PM (Ulyg2)
Posted by: Ronster at September 23, 2011 03:30 PM (/ej8I)
lucianne
Posted by: willow at September 23, 2011 03:30 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at September 23, 2011 03:31 PM (k4bdL)
Obama must have visited this plane in the hangar a couple days earlier touting how his stimulus plan saved or created thousands of pilot jobs.
Boom!
Posted by: wth at September 23, 2011 03:32 PM (wAQA5)
I sent Ace a note proposing essentially the same scenario about 24 hours after the accient, based on loss of trim tab, resulting g's, and pilot incapacitation. I further speculated that maybe he unfastened his harness to jump before becoming incapacitated, and that was why he was not visible in the final pictures, but if he pulled 22 g's he wasn't doing anything, he was out cold if not asphyxiated.
Popular Mechanics says the tailplane generates terrific downward force at high speed. Well, yes, but most pilots would say it like the wing generates terrific upward force, and the elevators have to be held down hard to keep the plane from climbing, and the trim tab helps you do that. Technically the same, but worded bass-ackwards from the way a pilot would think about it. Weird.
Posted by: sherlock at September 23, 2011 03:32 PM (bxc5w)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 03:32 PM (AZGON)
Last time around I wound up with QUeef, For Pete's Sake!
Nothing wrong with that, nor with my somewhat musical nic of doTfm, like an underground FM station.
Far out, man. Pixy is awesome sometimes.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Tea Party SOB at September 23, 2011 03:33 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Guy with Crazy Hair on the History Channel...now with 100% more less history at September 23, 2011 03:33 PM (k4bdL)
Last time around I wound up with QUeef, For Pete's Sake!
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 23, 2011 07:28 PM (niZvt)
How long have you been here?
Mine sucks too because it changes every time I log on. Let's see what it is this time.
Posted by: ErikW at September 23, 2011 03:33 PM (CB4n3)
Posted by: ErikW at September 23, 2011 07:33 PM (CB4n3)
Breaker, breaker one-nine. What's you're 20, Ghost Rider?
Posted by: ErikW at September 23, 2011 03:35 PM (CB4n3)
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 03:36 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: T. Boone Pickens at September 23, 2011 03:38 PM (k4bdL)
Has anyone noticed that ace has been quiet about the neutrino moving faster than the speed of light enabling time travel?
he's a member of Big Light
Posted by: dudeformerlyinsantacruz at September 23, 2011 03:38 PM (iinSd)
Posted by: sherlock at September 23, 2011 03:38 PM (bxc5w)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 03:38 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: Mr Fever Head at September 23, 2011 03:39 PM (ZgvjV)
Well, yeah...because he's busy in the future, hunting the hobos of tomorrow, today...
Posted by: Chainsaw Chimp at September 23, 2011 03:40 PM (k4bdL)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 03:40 PM (AZGON)
Hate to break it to you, kid. But Ace's bloated corpse will be found next week in a Holiday Inn with three dead trannies and a midget porn star who looks just like Gordon Ramsay tied to a mechanical bull. You should go to the funeral. A cool fight breaks out. Anyway, I gotta run. Gonna try to go backwards now.
Posted by: The Amazing Neutrino at September 23, 2011 03:42 PM (TXKVh)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 03:43 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: sherlock at September 23, 2011 03:45 PM (JYBAr)
Posted by: The Amazing Neutrino at September 23, 2011 07:42 PM (TXKVh)
While you're back there vote for McCain along with 10 Million of your friends ok?
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 03:46 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Robert Reich at September 23, 2011 03:50 PM (niZvt)
While you're back there vote for McCain along with 10 Million of your friends ok?
Posted by: robtrI'm going back 3 years to bitch slap every talking head that bitched about 5% unemployment.
Posted by: The Amazing Neutrino at September 23, 2011 03:51 PM (TXKVh)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 23, 2011 03:53 PM (niZvt)
Anyone have a guesstimate as to the speed of the UARS parts when they hit the ground?
I'm fucking with a concerned relative in Florida because I'm a dick like that.
Posted by: ErikW at September 23, 2011 03:53 PM (CB4n3)
Anyone have a guesstimate as to the speed of the UARS parts when they hit the ground?
I'm fucking with a concerned relative in Florida because I'm a dick like that.
Posted by: ErikW at September 23, 2011 07:53 PM (CB4n3)
Not as fast as the world trade center
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 03:55 PM (MtwBb)
Anyone have a guesstimate as to the speed of the UARS parts when they hit the ground?
I'm fucking with a concerned relative in Florida because I'm a dick like that.
Posted by: ErikWPretty damn fast from what I hear.
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 03:56 PM (TXKVh)
Posted by: Diamond studded Linebackers for first lady at September 23, 2011 03:56 PM (XcxSD)
Posted by: the observer at September 23, 2011 03:56 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 23, 2011 03:57 PM (niZvt)
Anyone have a guesstimate as to the speed of the UARS parts when they hit the ground?
I'm fucking with a concerned relative in Florida because I'm a dick like that.
Posted by: ErikWLooks like maybe 17,500 mph? That fast enough to break something. If it takes more than just a glancing blow.
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 04:00 PM (TXKVh)
This was just a warm up for the Apocalyptic DeathStar Crashing Satellite of Doom.
Posted by: the Apocalyptic DeathStar Crashing Satellite of Doom at September 23, 2011 04:00 PM (LQYyd)
It was Cheney, on the grassy knoll, with a shotgun.
Posted by: Bosk at September 23, 2011 04:01 PM (n2K+4)
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 04:02 PM (TXKVh)
Anyone have a guesstimate as to the speed of the UARS parts when they hit the ground?
I'm fucking with a concerned relative in Florida because I'm a dick like that.
- - -
Terminal velocity? Sounds scary enough.
Posted by: Flounder at September 23, 2011 04:03 PM (Kkt/i)
Luckily, true to the AoSHQ Lifestyle™, they were drinking it up in the hotel when it happened.
Still sad about the people who weren't so lucky though.
Posted by: stace, teahadi extremist bitch at September 23, 2011 04:03 PM (lYlx9)
This week on A Thousand Ways to Die...
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 23, 2011 04:04 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 08:00 PM (TXKVh)
I'm talking how fast it's going after most of it burns up and the bigger pieces start coming down. I'm wondering about actual impact.
Posted by: ErikW at September 23, 2011 04:05 PM (CB4n3)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 23, 2011 04:05 PM (niZvt)
I was thinking that, but haven't had a chance to run the numbers. Worst case, probably just under the speed of sound.
That's assuming that there's enough drag to slow it to terminal velocity. If it's shaped like a bullet coming down, drag might not slow it down enough.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 23, 2011 04:07 PM (bjRNS)
I'm talking how fast it's going after most of it burns up and the bigger pieces start coming down. I'm wondering about actual impact.
Posted by: ErikWShit, man. Okay!
From a Guardian article...
"Depending on their size and shape, the components will strike at speeds of between 55mph (90kph) and 240mph (385kph)."
Total buzz kill. Whoopdie-Fucking-Do.
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 04:09 PM (TXKVh)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 23, 2011 04:10 PM (niZvt)
Total buzz kill. Whoopdie-Fucking-Do.
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 08:09 PM (TXKVh)
What does that tell you about building 7 and the p 51? This thing is falling from fucking space and can barely make the speed limit.
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 04:12 PM (MtwBb)
55 to 240 mph? I've seen Chris Christie move faster than that - if there's a funnel cake involved.
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 04:13 PM (TXKVh)
At least, regarding the difference between UARS and the P-51, the Mustang's engine was running.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 23, 2011 04:14 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 23, 2011 08:07 PM (bjRNS)
I don't know anything about that and I'm guessing that the pieces are odd shaped mechanical parts that would create huge drag and they must have a lot of solid mass if NASA thinks the parts will make it to the ground.
Posted by: ErikW at September 23, 2011 04:15 PM (CB4n3)
Posted by: Helen Thomas at September 23, 2011 04:16 PM (Ulyg2)
No kidding. How long's this dip been sitting out. I don't feel so good. *brp*
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 04:16 PM (TXKVh)
They look like bad, bad girls... and they need a spanking. Real hard. And long. In depth. Posted by: CoolCzech
Do you think anyone would get the joke of having a Heterosexual Male Walk?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 23, 2011 04:17 PM (s1vtf)
He was looking for a reasonable number to scare someone with.
But you're probably right. I fully expect the satellite to heat up and blow apart, leaving the pieces to flutter down to the ground.
For relative values of "flutter".
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 23, 2011 04:19 PM (bjRNS)
did anyone know of this from GayPatriots site
The conversations were recorded by Andre Howard who ran the Lone Wolf Trading Company. Howard’s gun dealership had been cooperating with the ATF in “Fast and Furious.” At least two of his weapons were sold to a straw buyer before turning up later at the murder scene of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry. Hope MacAllister, the ATF agent heard in the conversations, was the lead case agent.
Dealer: Â…Holder has to respond to this tomorrow.
Agent: Yeah heÂ’s gonna respond.
Dealer: I know he is. And I can assure you the media isnÂ’t gonna like his response because basically itÂ’s gonna mirror what heÂ’s told Grassley.
Agent: Yeah.
Dealer: He canÂ’t deviate.
Agent: Well if, I mean I’ve seen a rough copy at least of what our US Attorney here has sent up. Whether or not he has the b—s to actually use it or not, I doubt it. But I mean it’s pretty aggressive. Um. The way I see it our local US Attorney is extremely aggressive. When it gets to DC…
Â…
Dealer: WhatÂ’s HoldersÂ’ office got to say about this?
Agent: Well like I said they’re supposed to come out with little more um b—-y statement than they have in the past, so…
Dealer: God theyÂ’re (intell)
Agent: I mean at some point they’re gonna say have to say Grassley you’re just gonna have to sit your a– down. I mean that or they’re gonna have to (unintell). I mean like I said my understanding is he can’t call a hearing. Somebody from the majority party has got to call a congressional hearing and as of right now…
Dealer: Patrick Leahy’s an a—-e, you know that. He gets ahold of something he’s like a dog with a bone.
Agent: As of right now we donÂ’t have any info thatÂ’s occurred. SoÂ…
Â…
Agent: ThatÂ’s kind of what my suggestion but nobody thought that was funny like if I were a P.I. IÂ’d put him on Grassley, IÂ’m sure thereÂ’s a lot would go away. Actually my one suggestion was just tell him in a registered Republican. IÂ’m sure if he knew that everything would be fine, they didnÂ’t like that either.
So, we apparently have an ATF agent suggesting the use of blackmail against a United States Senator for the purpose of interfering with a lawful investigation.
Posted by: willow at September 23, 2011 04:19 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Ronster at September 23, 2011 08:11 PM (/ej8I)
I don't do math, dude. It's complete gibberish to me!
Posted by: ErikW at September 23, 2011 04:20 PM (CB4n3)
Posted by: ErikW
It's been NASA's policy to place "shitloads" of bullets and other "exploding stuff" in all their satellites as ballast. Or as the boys at NASA call it "show stoppers" or "dirt poppers." Sounds crazy, but it's true. Look it up.
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 04:21 PM (TXKVh)
He was You were looking for a reasonable number to scare someone with.
Sorry. I lost track of the thread.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 23, 2011 04:21 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: The Fat Lady at September 23, 2011 04:23 PM (niZvt)
... whoop, whoop, whoop, whoopie!
Posted by: No Whining
The Smurfs like it.
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 04:24 PM (TXKVh)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 23, 2011 04:24 PM (niZvt)
heh, Kieth Ellison just said on O' Rielly that Lincoln built the INTER Continental railroad. Jeeebus
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 04:25 PM (MtwBb)
-- Keith Ellison, ("Jeaneous D", MN) on BOR
Posted by: No Whining at September 23, 2011 04:26 PM (Ulyg2)
O/T: "Universal Logo for Human Rights" revealed ...
Is that supposed to be a bird or a defected hand?
Posted by: Ronster at September 23, 2011 04:26 PM (/ej8I)
Posted by: lowandslow at September 23, 2011 04:27 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 23, 2011 04:27 PM (niZvt)
It's been NASA's policy to place "shitloads" of bullets and other "exploding stuff" in all their satellites as ballast. Or as the boys at NASA call it "show stoppers" or "dirt poppers." Sounds crazy, but it's true. Look it up.
Posted by: Dang at September 23, 2011 08:21 PM (TXKVh)
Why would a satellite need ballast?
Okay, I'll look it up.
Posted by: ErikW at September 23, 2011 04:30 PM (CB4n3)
September 23, 2011 — MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. (AP) — Nine-time Olympic gold medalist Carl Lewis gave up on his race for New Jersey state Senate on Friday, a day after a federal appeals panel removed him from the ballot because he didn't meet a four-year residency requirement.
Posted by: No Whining at September 23, 2011 04:33 PM (Ulyg2)
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at September 23, 2011 04:34 PM (eKfEG)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 23, 2011 04:34 PM (niZvt)
September 23, 2011 — CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) — A 6-ton NASA satellite on a collision course with Earth clung to space Friday, apparently flipping position in its ever-lower orbit and stalling its death plunge.
The old research spacecraft was targeted to crash through the atmosphere sometime Friday night or early Saturday, putting Canada, Africa and Australia in the potential crosshairs, although most of the satellite should burn up during re-entry. The United States wasn't entirely out of the woods; the possible strike zone skirted Washington state.
Posted by: No Whining at September 23, 2011 04:35 PM (Ulyg2)
Why would a satellite need ballast?
Because they have extra rocket fuel they need to get rid of. Do you want them to poor it on the ground?
Posted by: Ronster at September 23, 2011 04:35 PM (/ej8I)
Posted by: No Whining at September 23, 2011 08:35 PM (Ulyg2)
Damn....I got all excited until I read 'state'.
Posted by: Tami at September 23, 2011 04:37 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: No Whining at September 23, 2011 08:35 PM (Ulyg2)
Awww fuck, I was just relaxing drinking a beer. Now I have to go put up the sattelite sheild.
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 04:37 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: No Whining at September 23, 2011 08:35 PM (Ulyg2)
Damn....I got all excited until I read 'state'.
Posted by: Tami at September 23, 2011 08:37 PM (X6akg)
Gotta go drive to the beach, but someone ought to give ParanoidGirlInSeattle a "heads up" ...
Posted by: No Whining at September 23, 2011 04:39 PM (Ulyg2)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 23, 2011 04:40 PM (niZvt)
September 23, 2011 — CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) — A 6-ton NASA satellite on a collision course with Earth clung to space Friday, apparently flipping position in its ever-lower orbit and stalling its death plunge.
The old research spacecraft was targeted to crash through the atmosphere sometime Friday night or early Saturday, putting Canada, Africa and Australia in the potential crosshairs, although most of the satellite should burn up during re-entry. The United States wasn't entirely out of the woods; the possible strike zone skirted Washington state.
Posted by: No Whining at September 23, 2011 08:35 PM (Ulyg2)
So does anyone besides me understand that we, as human beings, are NOT as smart as we thhink we are?
Posted by: ErikW at September 23, 2011 04:41 PM (CB4n3)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 23, 2011 04:42 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 04:42 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 23, 2011 04:43 PM (niZvt)
I know squat about beer outside of Coors Light, but I believe wholeheartedly in self-education, so to that goal I bought Shiner Family Reunion. What other beer should I try?
What does this have to do with stunt planes? Let me get back to you on that...
Posted by: Marybel at September 23, 2011 04:43 PM (Hic+o)
Posted by: CoolCzech at September 23, 2011 08:40 PM (niZvt)
I can tell you are not from here. Just what did you think a sattelite shield was anyways, an umbrella?
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 04:47 PM (MtwBb)
I know squat about beer outside of Coors Light, but I believe wholeheartedly in self-education, so to that goal I bought Shiner Family Reunion. What other beer should I try?
I've tried them all, I always come back to budwieser.
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 04:49 PM (MtwBb)
O/T: "Universal Logo for Human Rights" revealed ...
Is that supposed to be a bird or a defected hand?
Posted by: Ronster at September 23, 2011 08:26 PM (/ej8I
Oh how nice a tribute to Bob Hope.
Posted by: sonnyspats at September 23, 2011 04:50 PM (I/MzF)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at September 23, 2011 04:51 PM (AZGON)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 23, 2011 04:52 PM (UlUS4)
Posted by: Another Bob at September 23, 2011 04:53 PM (RJMcc)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 23, 2011 04:53 PM (UlUS4)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at September 23, 2011 04:56 PM (Dc9Uy)
O/T: "Universal Logo for Human Rights" revealed ...
Is that supposed to be a bird or a defected hand?
New this fall! The twisted remake of the Partridge Family: and you thought the first Danny had problems!
Posted by: NBC Network at September 23, 2011 04:56 PM (mue7s)
Orbital Bombardment!
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 23, 2011 04:57 PM (c0A3e)
I had a delightful Sam Adams Oktoberfest earlier this evening and a Shiner Black Lager. Take that, Morgan Freeman.
Posted by: no good deed at September 23, 2011 05:00 PM (mjR67)
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 05:00 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: USA at September 23, 2011 05:03 PM (6Cjut)
Posted by: AlecBaldwinsTwit at September 23, 2011 05:03 PM (wwZVW)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at September 23, 2011 05:05 PM (Dc9Uy)
Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at September 23, 2011 05:06 PM (Z6fyp)
What?!?! If that damn satellite showers me with debris I am going to be soooo mad.
Posted by: ParanoidMeltingGirlinSeattle at September 23, 2011 05:07 PM (RZ8pf)
What?!?! If that damn satellite showers me with debris I am going to be soooo mad.
Posted by: ParanoidMeltingGirlinSeattle at September 23, 2011 09:07 PM (RZ8pf)
heh, hot isn't it?
Posted by: robtr at September 23, 2011 05:08 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Y-not at September 23, 2011 06:50 PM (5H6zj)
I have been at air shows in germany and all over the USA. The likelyhood of getting hit by a plane at one of those shows? I would say astronomical. Now you getting hit by another car going to the brunch, or chocking on a piece of food at said brunch - more likely
Posted by: Ma Bell at September 23, 2011 05:11 PM (H/MnC)
Hopefully, it never comes to pass, at least if you're referring to a potential God of War 4 (GoW3 - Gears of War 3 just came out; dunno if there will be a 4th game in that franchise).
Kratos is over-exposed, appearing in a Mortal Kombat game of all things!
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 23, 2011 05:11 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Jean at September 23, 2011 05:12 PM (wwZVW)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at September 23, 2011 05:14 PM (Dc9Uy)
Posted by: huerfano at September 23, 2011 07:13 PM (263hv)
Remember the Hindenberg? I sure do. You won't catch me near those death traps.
Also, the P51 is a WW2 aircraft, do you know who else flew a WW2 aircraft? Bush, Sr. I blame the Skull and Bones.
Posted by: MrCaniac, conspiracy theorist at September 23, 2011 05:17 PM (eKuOw)
heh, hot isn't it?
Yes, yes it is. And if that damn satellite hits me I bet it will be even hotter.
Posted by: ParanoidMeltingGirlinSeattle at September 23, 2011 05:17 PM (RZ8pf)
Do I smell a rotting corpse or is it this thread?
Posted by: Ronster at September 23, 2011 05:17 PM (/ej8I)
Posted by: Brandwashed ePub at September 23, 2011 09:12 PM (+9cXo)
You do know that nobody reads the articles, everyone comes for the comments. Hi Andrew!
Posted by: MrCaniac, at September 23, 2011 05:20 PM (eKuOw)
Do I smell a rotting corpse or is it this thread?
The Most Holy God-Emperor does get a bit ripe every now and again.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 23, 2011 05:21 PM (c0A3e)
Do I smell a rotting corpse or is it this thread?
Posted by: Ronster at September 23, 2011 09:17 PM (/ej8I)
Nope, that's just the smell of thermite.
Posted by: MrCaniac for loose nickels at September 23, 2011 05:21 PM (eKuOw)
The bleachers were felled by Jewish termites.
What? No termites were found at the scene? Well.....that's because they were the undetectable NANO-termites!!1
Thought you had me, didn't you?
Posted by: Dylan Avery at September 23, 2011 05:38 PM (M77Mx)
My son and I were supposed to be at the Air Races that day, but because he had to work an extra shift, we decided our only race day would be Sunday. We would not have been sitting in the VIP boxes that were hit, and likely would have emerged unharmed, though shaken. Having said that, I will never stop going to Air Shows and will continue going to the Reno Air Races (been going since '92) should they be allowed to continue.
People who are afraid something might happen shouldn't walk out their own front doors...ever.
Posted by: Sgt. York at September 23, 2011 05:59 PM (B6nJc)
Flutter is a great word for something vibrating madly tell it tears off.
Posted by: DaveA at September 23, 2011 06:12 PM (jWTOk)
Wow - a few days after the crash we know exactly how the plane went down! Super! I really like the authoratative article you linked to! Pop Science is my go-to mag for hard aerospace science. Those "flaps" on the tail can really screw you up at high speeds that's for sure!
Don't be so damn guilible. Just last night you posted this:
Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect works as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward-reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them.
In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story-and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read with renewed interest as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about far-off Palestine than it was about the story you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.
As an aerospace professional I gotta tell you - that article, while much of it may be probable, is also full of errors.
Posted by: ig at September 23, 2011 06:18 PM (5Cwv4)
Posted by: Sobek at September 23, 2011 06:43 PM (XcGDC)
Huh ? faster implies speed which is measure in units like m/sec, while gravity is acceleration in units like m/sec/sec.
QED this statement as no meaning
Posted by: Albert Einstein at September 23, 2011 07:47 PM (e8kgV)
Gadzooks !! 22.5 G's .. most jet fighter pilots train to 10 G's but a usually only functional to about 5 G's
Posted by: Albert Einstein at September 23, 2011 07:52 PM (e8kgV)
Everything has its limits.
I know, I'm still alive.
Posted by: NortonPete at September 23, 2011 09:10 PM (8zxoH)
Posted by: Doug at September 23, 2011 11:00 PM (q/08r)
Posted by: Major Kong at September 24, 2011 03:18 AM (TJjTX)
Posted by: moon maiden at September 24, 2011 05:35 AM (a5F9g)
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