April 15, 2011

Preference Cascades And Forbidden Thoughts
— Ace

Kaus talks about Jay Cost's article on Obama's incompetence at politics.

I'm not sure if Cost is quite right about that; Obama is good at some things in politics. The thematic stuff. And he successfully diagnosed the reason people had such irrational faith in him -- he actually called himself an empty screen on to which people may project their hopes.

That's a weird thing about Obama -- he sometimes just sort of says stuff like that. Maybe he's got an honest streak somewhere? Or maybe he's just been so coddled and endlessly promoted beyond his abilities that he doesn't realize people should keep things like that to themselves?

That is, if you're hoodwinking the public because they're gullible and have a general preference for Symbolic Ciphers over genuine accomplishment and qualification, maybe you should keep quiet and not draw attention to that, rather than confess out loud that your supporters are self-deluded naifs.

On the policy stuff, and on reading the mood of the electorate -- I don't know if he's a bad politician so much as a radical true-believing red-diaper baby lefty who is simply convinced that Socialism = Prosperity.

I think it's just that he's a true believer. This guy was part of the expressly socialist New Party, after all. Not that your media will tell you that.

At any rate, back to the point I actually wanted to make.

AmishDude brought up preference cascades. If you don't know what they are, read this archived Glenn Reynolds piece.

Now, Mickey Kaus is a neoliberal. Don't be fooled by the fact that he says a lot of conservative-sounding things. He does do that. But he identifies as a neoliberal and I think his self-identification is basically accurate (although I also think he's more of a conservative-tilting neoliberal than he thinks).

Point is, he's a neoliberal. The company he keeps is braying jackasses like Robert Wright and the rest of the crew from Slate.

Even though he usually gets a pass from these folks on his typical Devil's Argument/blasphemous truths style of criticism of liberal doctrine, there are some lines you don't cross if you want to keep your good standing among fire-breathing liberals. And not even neoliberals, but just plain old liberals, paleoliberals, and lefties.

And, this is one of those things you don't say:

Cost doesnÂ’t go into why Obama managed to get to the top of politics without being all that good at it. The answer is distressingly obvious: ObamaÂ’s the biggest affirmative action baby in history. When other pols are trying, failing, learning, while climbing up the middle rungs of the ladder, he got a pass[.]

Yeah, Cost didn't go into that, Kaus, because we often don't say what's obvious because of social stigma.

But you're right, it is obvious.

Kaus wasn't the first to say it; others have said it.

But he wasn't even close to have been the first to think it.

A lot of people have been thinking this.

This gets into my point about Obama and polling. Race undeniably helped Obama. This is also obvious.

But as people begin leaving wait-and-see mode and entering evaluate-and-judge, are they going to keep thinking "Well, he's black, so I should studiously scour any and all negative thoughts from my mind, even though he's brought my family and my business little but misery for three years" or are they going to think, "Gee, maybe I shouldn't have voted for him last time just because he was black. Maybe this time I should ask about his actual accomplishments and qualifications, apart from his general resemblance to a mash-up of a Heroic Young Crusader played by Will Smith and a Gentle Older Sage played by Morgan Freeman."

Preference cascade -- when once-falsified (falsified even to oneself)suppressed ideas are suddenly too glaringly obvious to be falsified any further and break, unexpectedly and tectonically, from the repressed subconscious to the conscious mind.

Thanks: To RD, for finding a link to the archived Reynolds article.


Posted by: Ace at 01:34 PM | Comments (136)
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1 He's Chauncey Gardener.

Posted by: profligatewaste at April 15, 2011 01:38 PM (b3rrc)

2

1 He's Chauncey Gardener.

Posted by: profligatewaste at April 15, 2011 05:38 PM (b3rrc)

Nah, Chance at least had one useful lifeskill, gardening. 0 is nothing more than an affirmative action Marxist.

Posted by: mugiwara at April 15, 2011 01:41 PM (KI/Ch)

3 Wait, I thought affirmative action disappeared down the memory hole and replaced by the outright racism of "diversity." Nonetheless, it was good knowing Kaus. I think that his treasonous uttering will be too much to bear for his smug friends and employers.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 15, 2011 01:42 PM (QxSug)

4 I haven't read all the comments but, has anyone noted that Barry is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure yet?

Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at April 15, 2011 01:45 PM (GTbGH)

5 It would be nice if that actually happens, but the libs and independents that I know, the ones who should be starting to get it by now, have the Raiders fan view of politics. "My team, right or wrong" They would rather go down with the ship than admit they were wrong. It would take big name libs openly questioning jugears for them to even think it - I just don't see it happening

Posted by: michelles mustache at April 15, 2011 01:46 PM (X99/a)

6 Related:  I think Trump is breaking through an Abilene Paradox w/r/t restricting Obama criticism and starting a preference cascade.  Obama is no longer immune to several criticisms, like consideration of his grades and course work in college, for example.

Only Nixon Trump could go to China there.

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 15, 2011 01:46 PM (SAcyG)

7 I don't know, guys. Here we are, sneering at Obama's incompetence, all the time ready to nominate freaking Donald Trump? I thought WE were the grownup party. Heaven help us. Is Trump a closet Democrat?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 15, 2011 01:46 PM (kUaEF)

8 My hyper-liberal uncle once said to me, "Hey, I just wanted to say I voted for a black man for President once in my life".

So, there it is.  Affirmative Action has invaded the general voting public.

I suspect it will be out of a lot of people's systems by the time 2012 rolls around, though.

Posted by: Johnny at April 15, 2011 01:46 PM (mhmc7)

9 I've noticed that he's lazy and boring. And, I've also notice that I was correct on id'ing him as an athiest true believer that is "a radical true-believing red-diaper baby lefty who is simply convinced that Socialism = Prosperity," type who will simply say ANYTHING at any time to sound good.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 15, 2011 01:47 PM (QxSug)

10 1 He's Chauncey Gardener. Posted by: profligatewaste at April 15, 2011 05:38 PM (b3rrc) Chauncey liked to watched. Barry likes to ride taxpayers like a Big Red Dog.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 15, 2011 01:48 PM (kUaEF)

11

Something else that should be glaringly obvious to the 52%'ers is that they were set up by a media that is no longer worthy of being called anything but The Progressive Pravda.

I wonder how many of us Morons have lib friends who are openly expressing regret at their vote for the JEF? That would be as good a preference cascade as anything that could be printed by any of the tongue-bathers.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 15, 2011 01:48 PM (d0Tfm)

12 My hyper-liberal uncle once said to me, "Hey, I just wanted to say I voted for a black man for President once in my life".

So, there it is.  Affirmative Action has invaded the general voting public.

I suspect it will be out of a lot of people's systems by the time 2012 rolls around, though.

Posted by: Johnny at April 15, 2011 05:46 PM (mhmc7)

If he's hyper-liberal he would have voted for any D.....white, black, pink, purple.

Posted by: Tami at April 15, 2011 01:48 PM (VuLos)

13 From the previous dead thread. 

We have had more than enough time to take BO's measure.  He is a fixed quantity now, and an irritant.  Sort of luck a partially chewed bolus you can't quite swallow.  You might have liked the taste at one point, but now you just want it to go away.

Posted by: pep at April 15, 2011 01:48 PM (gmlb7)

14

Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at April 15, 2011 05:45 PM (GTbGH)

One thing in life I appreciate is consistency and discipline. You sir (or lady), are a star to set my compass by.

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at April 15, 2011 01:49 PM (EFot6)

15
he actually called himself an empty screen on to which people may project their hopes.




Yeah, yeah Ace. I get it. Empty screen - Plato's Parable of the Cave - Cavemen - Monkeys.

And monkeys has two of the letters in "boy". You racist wingnuts sure are clever with your dog whistle codewords.....*snort*.

Posted by: Maureen Dowd at April 15, 2011 01:50 PM (sBoN3)

16 BHO is not a true-true believer (you know... like rape-rape?).

He's a believer who's been in the believer game all his life, literally, and who's recognized HOW to get the true-true believers to do what he needs them to do to validate his narcissistic control issues stemming from unwarranted high self-esteem (which he's never actually validated with any level of, you know, self-respect). Seligman explains precisely why he lashes out when that self-esteem is threatened, like he did the other day

So he plays the part of a true-true believer for those whom he knows will convey unto him the power he needs to fill his narcissistic need to rule. This need is evident in every interaction where his unwarranted high self-esteem is pointed out - like when Ryan demonstrated what an ignoramus he is, back during the health care summit. This little show we saw the other day was little more than retaliation for that. There's really not much else that explains the utterly irrational rhetoric he spewed.

Posted by: goy at April 15, 2011 01:51 PM (AfU1B)

17

 

His mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 15, 2011 01:51 PM (QMtmy)

18 That's a weird thing about Obama -- he sometimes just sort of says stuff like that. Maybe he's got an honest streak somewhere? Or maybe he's just been so coddled and endlessly promoted beyond his abilities that he doesn't realize people should keep things like that to themselves?

I honestly think it's more that he knows what a sham and a joke he is and wants to be exposed so the anxiety of wondering when it will happen will go away.  Sort of like how people feel better when they confess to a crime, even though it means they'll be going away for awhile.

Posted by: pep at April 15, 2011 01:51 PM (gmlb7)

19 That's a weird thing about Obama -- he sometimes just sort of says stuff like that. Maybe he's got an honest streak somewhere? No, dear boy. Arrogance! Have you never conned a mark before on something? If one is a particularly arrogant gritted, it is not merely enough to pull off the con. You also have a burning desire to expose the con to them, knowing they will still buy in like suckers. Well, some might be turned off - there is risk involved - but many, even most, will not be dissuaded. And that's the sweetest of all. But generally, you are not wrong - he IS a true-believing liberal.

Posted by: Vyceroy at April 15, 2011 01:51 PM (D0uZE)

20 ace. you ever read Taleb's black swan? the concept of preference cascades reminds me of that

Posted by: A.G. at April 15, 2011 01:52 PM (r1N2K)

21 ok, and his peacenik appeal. Why'd he bomb libya again? Oh right, he got rolled by some smooth talking eurotrash.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 15, 2011 01:53 PM (QxSug)

22

His mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

I can relate.

Posted by: Dr. Hannibal Lecter at April 15, 2011 01:53 PM (d0Tfm)

23  I don't know if the public will like Nasty Obama.

Posted by: ace at April 15, 2011 05:06 PM (nj1bB)  

(On a previous thread) 

Ask the 52% now!  

Twenty - Thirty percent woke up. 

Where's The Free stuff???

 

Posted by: CatLady at April 15, 2011 01:54 PM (CyPWX)

24 >>ace. you ever read Taleb's black swan? You must be new here. Pretty interesting segment on Hardball. Jimmy Breslin was just on talking about Jackie Robinson. He said that during the '10 election he was interviewing some black people on their feelings about Obama. One woman said to him that she just voted for Jackie Robinson. You only get to be the first once.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2011 01:55 PM (TMB3S)

25 "Well, he's black, so I should studiously scour any and all negative thoughts from my mind, even though he's brought my family and my business little but misery for three years"

Under the language I grew up with, if you're treating the black guy differently than the white guy, you're a racist.

Under the new proggressive re-definition, if you're NOT treating the black guy differently than the white guy, you're a racist.

Words don't go back to their original meanings (try telling someone you feel gay today).  We're fucked.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 15, 2011 01:55 PM (0vDuM)

26 16 BHO is not a true-true believer (you know... like rape-rape?). I thought rape rape was when you absentmindedly call her by your old girlfriend's name as you're ploughing her doggy style?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 15, 2011 01:55 PM (kUaEF)

27 and plowing, too...

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 15, 2011 01:55 PM (kUaEF)

28

Raiders Fans x 2.  Good call there, cause I see that with the O supporters I work around and my family, who are lefties.

The family leftys still don't understand the criticism of Carter as fair!  WTH?

I think the lefty progressives will double-down.  They just don't care if it's staring them in the face.  It's all about winning and evil corporations and evil Tea Baggers and gun lovers and ignorant southeners and stupid Texans.

It's class warefare where I'm sitting.  They see themselves as the smartest in the room.  They have it all figured out.  Those that are "conservatives" are ignorant boobs who must be told what to think.

Posted by: Yip at April 15, 2011 01:55 PM (SyLEU)

29 His mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives. Yeah! Like building stuff & inventing stuff.

Posted by: Barry O'Teleprompter at April 15, 2011 01:56 PM (4Kl5M)

Posted by: The Replacements at April 15, 2011 01:56 PM (p0R89)

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 15, 2011 01:56 PM (SAcyG)

32 >>>ce. you ever read Taleb's black swan? the concept of preference cascades reminds me of that Yes I read it and have written about it. They're not really related ideas except that they're both meta-ideas about sudden change. Well, they are related in that preference cascades will often seem like Black Swans, or a Black Swan (like 9/11) can trigger a preference cascasde. And when I say "I've read it" I of course mean I read three or four reviews/synopses of it. Reading books is for the weak.

Posted by: ace at April 15, 2011 01:56 PM (nj1bB)

33

 

uh. figs and grottos and uh, apes eating figs, uh, and that.

 

Posted by: obama at April 15, 2011 01:57 PM (YswEx)

34

 ace. you ever read Taleb's black swan? the concept of preference cascades reminds me of that

This is hysterical.

Posted by: garrett at April 15, 2011 01:57 PM (p0R89)

35
the place is full of 'rara avises'


Posted by: leftover soothsayers at April 15, 2011 01:57 PM (WmBF6)

36 But as people begin leaving wait-and-see mode and entering evaluate-and-judge, are they going to keep thinking "Well, he's black, so I should studiously scour any and all negative thoughts from my mind, even though he's brought my family and my business little but misery for three years" or are they going to think, "Gee, maybe I shouldn't have voted for him last time just because he was black. Maybe this time I should ask about his actual accomplishments and qualifications, apart from his general resemblance to a mash-up of a Heroic Young Crusader played by Will Smith and a Gentle Older Sage played by Morgan Freeman."

Most Americans are rational enough to be at the "Reverse Otter" position now: "We fucked up -- we trusted you."

Also known as Scotty's Rule of Starship Command: "Fool me once, shame on you -- fool me twice, shame on me."

Also known as Duke Mantee's* Dictum: "I let that mug make a mug outta me but I won't let it happen again!"

* Humphrey Bogart's character in The Petrified Forest

Posted by: stuiec at April 15, 2011 01:58 PM (ELpjS)

37
Reading books is for the weak.

Reading is fundamental for the mentally retahhded.

Posted by: leftover soothsayers at April 15, 2011 01:59 PM (WmBF6)

38 Reading books is for the weak.

Ah, that's why you are always absent from the Sunday Book Thread.

I though it was just the hangovers.

Posted by: toby928™ at April 15, 2011 01:59 PM (GTbGH)

39 Preference cascade, isn't that when you run across a bunch of Southern Baptist coworkers out at the still?

Posted by: sTevo at April 15, 2011 01:59 PM (VMcEw)

Posted by: BIG BLACK at April 15, 2011 02:00 PM (p0R89)

41 You shovel sixteen tons, whaddya git?
any future hope of prosperity covered in shit.

Posted by: Can't let it go. at April 15, 2011 02:00 PM (ngf4R)

42
You know what reminds me of preference cascades?

That scene from Requiem of a Dream.

And Brian Dennehy.

Posted by: leftover soothsayers at April 15, 2011 02:00 PM (WmBF6)

43

WE NEED TO FIELD A CANDIDATE THAT CAN BEAT HIM. Carter had Regan, we have fucking Mitt Romney?  Hahah, yeah right. We are fucked.

Posted by: Max Power at April 15, 2011 02:01 PM (q177U)

44

Me and my old man were putting up some "lectric" fence one time and his bird dog (which was a damn genius by dog standards) raised his leg and pissed on the wire. Well, he was being shocked and was whining but he kept pissing on that fence, unable to make the connection to his actions and the pain he was feeling.

The JEF supporters remind me of that dog. I wish I could remember his name.

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at April 15, 2011 02:01 PM (EFot6)

Posted by: Barry O at April 15, 2011 02:02 PM (4Kl5M)

46

Me and my old man were putting up some "lectric" fence one time and his bird dog (which was a damn genius by dog standards) raised his leg and pissed on the wire.

I have seen clients do this on the side of the river.  Funny shit.

Posted by: garrett at April 15, 2011 02:03 PM (p0R89)

47 That's a weird thing about Obama -- he sometimes just sort of says stuff like that. Maybe he's got an honest streak somewhere? Or maybe he's just been so coddled and endlessly promoted beyond his abilities that he doesn't realize people should keep things like that to themselves?

Obama understands one interesting fact about the new media age: people can filter out news they don't want to hear much more easily.  Once upon a time, if Walter Cronkite said it, everyone in America heard it.  Nowadays, it's possible for a sound bite to be put up on a web site where everyone in the world has the ability to hear it, yet never be heard by more than a few people.  Unlike the push model that used to apply when TV and newspapers could force news stories on the public, we live in much more of a pull world in which the public chooses what news and information to consume.

So Obama can tell the truth in unguarded moments and tell different audiences diametrically different things (e.g., what he told the Israeli Knesset and the Palestinians about the status of Jerusalem) and know that there won't necessarily be widespread fallout.  People nowadays can hear pretty much only what they want to hear.

Posted by: stuiec at April 15, 2011 02:03 PM (ELpjS)

48 45 WE NEED TO FIELD A CANDIDATE THAT CAN BEAT HIM. I bet Sarah Jessica Parker could put him through his paces!

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 15, 2011 02:03 PM (kUaEF)

49 My hyper-liberal uncle once said to me, "Hey, I just wanted to say I voted for a black man for President once in my life".

I voted for one in 2000.  So this makes me better than him, since he never voted for any of the black men in the primaries, right?

(Iowa Caucus. No one impressed me that year. I don't know if I'd do it again, but it makes a good story.)

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 15, 2011 02:03 PM (0vDuM)

50

The JEF supporters remind me of that dog. I wish I could remember his name.

52?

Joe Biden?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 15, 2011 02:04 PM (d0Tfm)

51

 

When I first started reading about Taleb's black swan it reminded me of the "Mule" character from the Foundation trilogy.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 15, 2011 02:04 PM (QMtmy)

52 Preference cascade shmeference cascade.  Wake me up when it becomes 'okay' for people to mock Michelle Obama's physical appearance.  Laura Bush looked like the joker, GWB looked like a chimp, and that was all well and good for laughs.  Michelle looks like a gigantic assed version of a certain space-chess champion.

When the MSM finally takes off the affirmative action goggles and stops pretending she's glamorous and beautiful, only then will they be ready to acknowledge BHO's not the smartest man alive.

Posted by: wooga at April 15, 2011 02:05 PM (2p0e3)

53
I thought rape rape was when you absentmindedly call her by your old girlfriend's name as you're ploughing her doggy style?

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 15, 2011 05:55 PM (kUaEF)

No, that's bedroom rodeo.  You gotta hang on for the full eight seconds, though.

Posted by: stuiec at April 15, 2011 02:05 PM (ELpjS)

54

What's eating Barry?  Lack of cool phone in Oval Office.

He wanted the job for the cool phone.

Posted by: Truman North at April 15, 2011 02:06 PM (8ay4x)

55 You know what reminds me of preference cascades?
That scene from Requiem of a Dream.
And Brian Dennehy.

Or the casino in Havana when Michael realizes that Fredo has sold him out.

The Kiss of Death.




Also, Brian Dennehy was brilliant in the role of the Casino.

Posted by: toby928™ at April 15, 2011 02:06 PM (GTbGH)

56 >>No, that's bedroom rodeo. You gotta hang on for the full eight seconds, though. What am I, Superman?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2011 02:07 PM (TMB3S)

57

Hey, don't we get a "COUNT COMPLETE - PROSSER TELLS KLOPPY TO SUCK IT" thread?   I want to gloat and talk shit to ignorant, moonbat, union thug fucksticks.

Posted by: Steph at April 15, 2011 02:08 PM (AkdC5)

58

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 15, 2011 06:04 PM (d0Tfm)

Well this dog was much smarter than Biden. He was a German Shorthair and no shit, he was the f'n Einstein of dogs. He might have been smarter than all 52%

I think his name might have been Timber.

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at April 15, 2011 02:08 PM (EFot6)

59

WE NEED TO FIELD A CANDIDATE THAT CAN BEAT HIM. Carter had Regan, we have fucking Mitt Romney?  Hahah, yeah right. We are fucked.

 

or  Huckabee.... yeah we are fucked !

 

Posted by: Jackhole at April 15, 2011 02:09 PM (+qHxi)

60 When the MSM finally takes off the affirmative action goggles and stops pretending she's glamorous and beautiful, only then will they be ready to acknowledge BHO's not the smartest man alive.

Never happen, ever.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 15, 2011 02:09 PM (0vDuM)

61 The Bacon Lady has a red light story up.

Posted by: sTevo at April 15, 2011 02:09 PM (VMcEw)

62 I'm beginning to think the the "Affirmative Action Socialist" label is giving him too much credit. Seriously. We're talking about someone who hasn't a single, legitimate accomplishment or coherent thought to his credit in his entire life. I think that he's nothing more than the world's most fabulously successful marketing gimmick. The only one who has been duped more than his raving fans around the world is he himself. He's what the New Kid's on the Block, Britney Spears, and American Idol type marketing campaigns have evolved into. He's not even a Manchurian Candidate, since that would require intent and organization that is clearly not present. He's simply a byproduct of decades of people who wanted to see how much personal gain they could get out of foisting a talentless imbecile on the public. He cannot even claim the intelligence of Britney Spears or the boy bands that came before him, since even they knew enough to occasionally doubt or at least be awed by their press clippings. No, Obama is the perfect imbecile, who's entire self image has been shaped by fallacy and who has no potential whatsoever of understanding that he is a worthless, talentless, fraud who is incapable of even understanding what he claims as his own core beliefs.

Posted by: Damiano at April 15, 2011 02:10 PM (3nrx7)

63

Preference cascade shmeference cascade.  Wake me up when it becomes 'okay' for people to mock Michelle Obama's physical appearance.  Laura Bush looked like the joker, GWB looked like a chimp, and that was all well and good for laughs.  Michelle looks like a gigantic assed version of a certain space-chess champion.

When the MSM finally takes off the affirmative action goggles and stops pretending she's glamorous and beautiful, only then will they be ready to acknowledge BHO's not the smartest man alive.

Meeshel is a dead ringer for bigbird when she wears yellow

Posted by: Jackhole at April 15, 2011 02:12 PM (+qHxi)

64 President Peter Principle is more swallowable for my indy and lefty friends than President Affirmative Action. His whole life has been an exercise in failing UP.

Posted by: mic_mcn at April 15, 2011 02:12 PM (DqxDC)

65 That guy from the Weekly Standard who appears on the Brett Baier show, steven hayward? is that it? sort of hinted that Paul Ryan may run for president. I took it that way, anyway. I don't know if he's just speculating or wischasting or he's hearing things.

Posted by: ace at April 15, 2011 02:13 PM (nj1bB)

66 How many of you suckers feel good about getting some of your money back?

Yeah, me too.

Posted by: Fritz, shaken not stirred at April 15, 2011 02:14 PM (ngf4R)

67

This, in my opinion, is another aspect of Obama's success that is and, has been to me, utterly baffling.

Everything that is Obama might as well have been posted on every billboard on the country.  His past, is friendships, his affiliations, his ideologies, even the emptiness of his character - and nobody chose to believe any of it.  He even declared before in his life and even during the campaign that, in so many words, he was a radical. 

The very iconography of the campaign screamed "no more America!" 
And nobody believed that he meant it.  It was as if he went face to face with each individual American and told them to their faces, "I will bring this country down," and they said in turn, "Nah.  That's not you.  That's just what you want me to believe!"

Nobody should be surprised by the revelation that Obama is who he is.

He told us.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 15, 2011 02:15 PM (jx2j9)

68 Ace es en fuego. 

I sent you 20 bucks.  Drink up.

Posted by: toby928™ at April 15, 2011 02:15 PM (GTbGH)

69 @69: the problem with Ryan is, not enough experience. Sure I think he'll be president - in about 12 years maybe. The leadership of the GOP needs to find some able bodied serious candidates ASAP. This crap with Trump is handing over the election to Obama.

Posted by: CoolCzech at April 15, 2011 02:16 PM (kUaEF)

70 He's what the New Kid's on the Block, Britney Spears, and American Idol type marketing campaigns have evolved into. He's not even a Manchurian Candidate, since that would require intent and organization that is clearly not present.

Soros? ACORN? Putin? DNC? GE?

Someone staged and funded the mass marketing campaign...why do that if you're not getting something out of it?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 15, 2011 02:16 PM (0vDuM)

71 I couldn't care less what the lefties think of him, its that middle-middle piece of indies that I care about, that 5% in enough electoral vote states, the ones with scales over their eyes.  When will those scales drop, have they already?  Based on last Nov, I think they may have.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 15, 2011 02:16 PM (Z1jiu)

72 yeah, we need that fired CNN reporter to come on here and lecture us how much obama is doing for us by borrowing money to give to us via public sector union thugs.

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 15, 2011 02:16 PM (QxSug)

73 56 - yes, that is why I have always said he should have just gone for video rap star like JayZ.  I think this is why they take so many vacations so they can be treated like royalty.  I don't believe he cares about America at all - it is always just about him.

Posted by: gesc at April 15, 2011 02:17 PM (4nDwE)

74 Hooked on Affirmative Action worked for me!

Posted by: Barry Obirthcertificate at April 15, 2011 02:18 PM (zgZzy)

75

@69: the problem with Ryan is, not enough experience. Sure I think he'll be president - in about 12 years maybe.

The leadership of the GOP needs to find some able bodied serious candidates ASAP. This crap with Trump is handing over the election to Obama.

 

yeah because up against Obama he is really inexperienced WTF ?

Posted by: Jackhole at April 15, 2011 02:19 PM (+qHxi)

76 >>That guy from the Weekly Standard who appears on the Brett Baier show, steven hayward? is that it? sort of hinted that Paul Ryan may run for president. Hayes. I sure as hell hope not. I want him working 8 days a week 25 hours a day getting that budget passed.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 15, 2011 02:19 PM (TMB3S)

77 This gets into my point about Obama and polling. Race undeniably helped Obama. This is also obvious.

This probably also has a lot to do with there being no questions about his background along the way.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at April 15, 2011 02:19 PM (9eDbm)

78

Hayes. I sure as hell hope not. I want him working 8 days a week 25 hours a day getting that budget passed.

 

 

Screw that!  I'm not inheriting this clusterfuck!

Posted by: Paul Ryan at April 15, 2011 02:20 PM (zgZzy)

79 I'm an excellent Teleprompter reader.

Posted by: Barack Rainman Obama at April 15, 2011 02:21 PM (bvXGR)

80 His past, is friendships, his affiliations, his ideologies, even the emptiness of his character - and nobody chose to believe any of it.

A lot of people found that stuff attractive. Especially since he was promising to give them free shit.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 15, 2011 02:21 PM (0vDuM)

81

I think his name might have been Timber.

A good friend of mine lost his trained attack dog, Jabba the Mutt, last summer. Half German shepherd, half Rottie, weighed more than me. Smartest dog I've ever had the privelege to know. He could lock and unlock a deadbolt whenever he wanted to.

He almost killed an ex-girlfriend whom I stupidly brought over to help me feed him while his owner was out of town. She worked in a vet's office, but had never been around any police dogs, so she was a little bit, shall I say, overconfident. She had not been properly introduced to the aforementioned attack dog, (did I mention he was a trained attack dog?) who proceeded to run me over to go after her throat. I yelled at him and he stopped cold, and sat with a look on his face like, "What did I do?"

She tinkled herself, just a little bit.

I miss Jabba.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 15, 2011 02:22 PM (d0Tfm)

82

people told me around election time that I wouldn't vote for the zerO because he was black. I would then tell them the only reason they were voting for himis because he was black. They would then get their skivies all in a twist

 

Posted by: Jackhole at April 15, 2011 02:22 PM (+qHxi)

83 >>>Ace es en fuego. thanks, toby, for both the $20 and the compliment. I thought I was writing good stuff but only one other guy said something. I appreciate it.

Posted by: ace at April 15, 2011 02:22 PM (nj1bB)

84

A lot of people found that stuff attractive. Especially since he was promising to give them free shit.

 

Where mah gas money!

Posted by: Obama Girl at April 15, 2011 02:22 PM (zgZzy)

85  

WE NEED TO FIELD A CANDIDATE THAT CAN BEAT HIM. Carter had Regan, we have fucking Mitt Romney?  Hahah, yeah right. We are fucked.

 

or  Huckabee.... yeah we are fucked !

 

Posted by: Jackhole at April 15, 2011 06:09 PM (+qHxi)

RON PAUL!

Posted by: The Guy What Scream Types RON PAUL at April 15, 2011 02:23 PM (yQWNf)

86 sometimes things are what they seem to be

There's a town in Wales called Mold; guess what they have a lot of?

British Army post nearby, but mostly they got a lotta mold.

Obama sounds and acts and looks like a scumbag hard-left 'community organizer' narcissistic America-hating POS

and that's exactly what he is.   Move along, no surprises here......

Posted by: SantaRosaStan , ArgenKongPretoria at April 15, 2011 02:24 PM (UqKQV)

87

Posted by: HeatherRadish at April 15, 2011 06:21 PM (0vDuM)

You said a mouthful, HR.  All of the takers in this country equated Obama being elected with hitting the lottery.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 15, 2011 02:24 PM (jx2j9)

88

I would then tell them the only reason they were voting for him is because he was black.

 

Actually, he's black-ish.

Posted by: Sterling Archer at April 15, 2011 02:24 PM (zgZzy)

89 I don't know if he's just speculating or wischasting or he's hearing things.

I have seen him say that before, he believes if nobody catches fire by the fall, a late candidate can come in and capture it, and he wishcasts that it would be Ryan.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at April 15, 2011 02:25 PM (Z1jiu)

90

Who's stopping you?

Posted by: Papa Editor at April 15, 2011 06:11 PM (Zs83Q)

Nobody.   I just thought it would be nice, if we had a thread that had something we could be happy about.   It's been a damn depressing week.

Posted by: Steph at April 15, 2011 02:25 PM (AkdC5)

91 I want to gloat and talk shit to ignorant, moonbat, union thug fucksticks.

Posted by: Steph at April 15, 2011 06:08 PM (AkdC5)

Who's stopping you?

Posted by: Papa Editor at April 15, 2011 06:11 PM (Zs83Q)

I'm guessing the ignorant, moonbat, union thug fucksticks. They're psychotic and prone to violence and I wouldn't tangle with them either unless I had a stun gun in each hand.

Posted by: ErikW at April 15, 2011 02:25 PM (90peF)

92 @HeatherRadish Oh, I agree with you. Each of the organizations you listed, and more, have moved their agendas along and gotten A LOT out of it. I think that they've actually gotten more than expected, alas why I made a distinction between him and a Manchurian Candidate. Would you pick a goofy, drug addict, failure who's only work history is community organizing as your lynchpin to global domination? I wouldn't. No, I think the success of President Boyband is a surprise, even to the agencies that created that created this Frankenstein Monster.

Posted by: Damiano at April 15, 2011 02:26 PM (3nrx7)

93 ace or coblogblogblogerrrrrs, ya'll should do a flea dip drive on Monday. ppl are getting refunds (well some are) and they may just be willing to support the site. just sayin'

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 15, 2011 02:26 PM (pLTLS)

94 It's been a damn depressing week.

thank god. I thought it was just me.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 15, 2011 02:26 PM (pLTLS)

95

I would then tell them the only reason they were voting for him is because he was black.

 

Actually, he's black-ish.

He always appears a weird shade of green on my TV, only him

Posted by: Jackhole at April 15, 2011 02:26 PM (+qHxi)

96 I loathe Huckabee but he'd be better than Commie Jesus by a country mile.

Posted by: nickless at April 15, 2011 02:26 PM (MMC8r)

97 You usually write Good Stuff, ace -- on a daily basis.  Very good stuff....

and when you don't, Pains in The Ass like me get on your case.


Posted by: SantaRosaStan , ArgenKongPretoria at April 15, 2011 02:27 PM (UqKQV)

98

I'm guessing the ignorant, moonbat, union thug fucksticks. They're psychotic and prone to violence and I wouldn't tangle with them either unless I had a stun gun in each hand.

Posted by: ErikW at April 15, 2011 06:25 PM (90peF)

Actually, I don't know any, and have no moonbat or even slightly leaning left firends or aquaintances.   Kind of hard to gloat when you have nobody you can laugh and point at.

Posted by: Steph at April 15, 2011 02:28 PM (AkdC5)

99

You usually write Good Stuff, ace -- on a daily basis.  Very good stuff....

and when you don't, Pains in The Ass like me get on your case.

I come here for the comments, but I read Ace's stuff sometimes !

Posted by: Jackhole at April 15, 2011 02:29 PM (+qHxi)

100 Paul Ryan, good God man! Surely there's some dour, lumpy, old man in the Senate whose turn it is for 2012? Why would we nominate someone who's got ideas and youth?

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 15, 2011 02:30 PM (QxSug)

101 105 Paul Ryan, good God man! Surely there's some dour, lumpy, old man in the Senate whose turn it is for 2012? Why would we nominate someone who's got ideas and youth?         I hereby accept the nomination, my friends!

Posted by: Juan McLame at April 15, 2011 02:30 PM (zgZzy)

102

 

Kuato Is My Wingman.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 15, 2011 02:31 PM (QMtmy)

103

ace or coblogblogblogerrrrrs, ya'll should do a flea dip drive on Monday. ppl are getting refunds (well some are) and they may just be willing to support the site.

My plan is to donate to Iowahawk in the hopes of more trickle-down comedy.

Posted by: garrett at April 15, 2011 02:32 PM (p0R89)

104

I'm with #72

30 bucks headed your way Ace good stuff all week

{Tips pretentious micro-brew in Ace's general direction.}

Posted by: kehoe at April 15, 2011 02:32 PM (IQi6f)

105 So, how many federal court orders has the current administration defied to date?

The courts can't/won't restrain him.  Obama and his allies routinely dehumanize their opponents both in public and in the dark alleyways of political warfare.

He's a shape-shifter, and a brilliant one - both savior and destroyer, depending on the topic du jour.  All for one purpose, and that purpose has nothing to do with the best interests of the people of the United States of America.

As an example, the Obamites were so concerned with the propriety of Obama's oath of office that they demanded that Chief Justice Roberts  administer it twice, yet any request for proof of birth in the United States is ridiculed as nonsense.

As far as I'm concerned, Obama was born in Hawaii.  If the bona fides are good enough for the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, etc., etc,.  But it is still fascinating as to what lengths (and for what purposes) the current president will insist on precise adherence to law, while using the regulatory steamroller to crush the life out of the Constitution.

Posted by: mrp at April 15, 2011 02:35 PM (HjPtV)

106

Ace, you always write good stuff. Insightful, and usually with an angle that I, being the great objectivist that I am, usually miss.

Keep it up.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 15, 2011 02:35 PM (d0Tfm)

107

Or maybe he's just been so coddled and endlessly promoted beyond his abilities that he doesn't realize people should keep things like that to themselves?

He keeps doing this. Like complaining about not being able to take a walk, while skipping Camp David and going to Hawaii and Brazil.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 15, 2011 02:37 PM (XdlcF)

108
Rich and compelling.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 15, 2011 02:37 PM (QMtmy)

109 ...or Preference Defilades And Forbidden Panzerfausts.

...or It Really Sucks When You Sneak Up Behind Him And Your Rocket Bounces Off Of That Supposedly Critically Weak Rear Armor.

Posted by: Think strategically act tactically at April 15, 2011 02:37 PM (5i4r9)

110 yeah, it would be funny to run Ryan against Obama in 2012 just for the debate where Ryan does his thing and Obama does his death stare of stupidity. "Mr. President, in your April 13th speech where you said I wanted to kill grandma, you sort of misled the audience when you said ..."

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 15, 2011 02:38 PM (QxSug)

111 me @116, think about such a debate. Listening to Ryan's response on Levin, slicing like a hammer. "we put out a plan...and it's looking like he wasn't leading."

Posted by: joeindc44 at April 15, 2011 02:40 PM (QxSug)

112 The day anybody takes the presidential oath of office for the first time, he is by definition inexperienced.  That's because he's never done this job before.  You can argue that somebody with 20 years of Congressional experience is more qualified, and you can argue that someone with almost no political experience is qualified.

In my view, Obama, Biden, McCain, and Palin were all equally inexperienced in that area with respect to being president.

To address (maybe buttress) Ace's point, I think the best candidate is the one whose philosophical approach is the most sensible overall.  I suspect that's why the founding fathers required the president to be at least 35 years old.

I could be wrong, but since Ronald Reagan is the only example I can think of in my lifetime to prove or disprove that, I doubt that I'm that far off.

Posted by: jwb7605 at April 15, 2011 02:47 PM (Qxe/p)

113 odd total-no cc-balance pp ; )
Without AOS I wouldn't just be alone Mon-Fri, I'd be lonely, too.
and,not nearly as educated.

Posted by: Carolyn at April 15, 2011 02:49 PM (NYjsM)

114 OK, so if I've got this right.....

The conclusion to be drawn  is that Liberals/Progressives are getting mugged by reality........the emperor has no clothes! 

It's a process argument, but fuck me raw, it made me laugh!

This provides an intellectual argument for the progressive intelligentsia to throw Obama under the bus.  Obama is one step from political implosion. 

(Everyone should follow the links if they aren't intimately familiar with the terms.)

Ace:  I read this post twice!!!   You Rock.

Posted by: Jack at April 15, 2011 02:55 PM (kCT7A)

115 I'm in.. I haven't tipped you in awhile Ace.. $35 on the way.  Good work... and everyone else too

Posted by: Yip at April 15, 2011 03:06 PM (SyLEU)

116 I had said this back in 2007: This guy wouldn't be elected dogcatcher if he was white.

Posted by: Tushar at April 15, 2011 03:23 PM (PGSXB)

117

AWW its an Ace A Palooza

 I came here by mistake one year from a Michelle Malkan link. That was 2005/6? anyway at that time I was considering dropping out of society and hitting the rails! Land O the Free for me it would be! I was gonna hobo all over this great contry summer in the north and winter in the south. Hells yeah campfire cooking and homemade hooch yeah buddy. No showers or clean clothes for weeks hell yeah who cares . Running out of food and eating road kill whoopee. No womens only me and Rosie palm or an occaisional hobo reunion hooker Whoop De Doo hobos! After reading comments here at AoSpHq I came to see the light I didn't drop out and I resurected my remodeling business. Its spring time and the work is coming in .  Yeah buddy I still have a bit of road fever but when I go it will be on a new Harley instead of  riding under a train car. Woo Woo all aboard

Posted by: Krazy Kat at April 15, 2011 03:28 PM (oNphh)

118

anyway at that time I was considering dropping out of society and hitting the rails!




Heh. Reading about us hobo slaughterers cured you of that notion, didn't it.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 15, 2011 03:30 PM (sBoN3)

119 Trump actually is the most qualified person to run the United States in these trying times. He has successfully bankrupted several companies while keeping his personal money and brand intact. He lets the suckers that lent him money be the dupe holding the bag. Who would you want to deal with our bankers, i.e. the Chinese? You think Sarkozy and Cameron could roll Trump to get him to bomb Libya?

Posted by: sexypig at April 15, 2011 03:32 PM (UmEOs)

120 Dark have been my dreams of late.

Posted by: King Theodon at April 15, 2011 03:39 PM (qwK3S)

121 Don't listen to them Master. Their words are but seething deceit.

Posted by: Grima Wormtongue at April 15, 2011 03:41 PM (qwK3S)

122 There's an explanation as to why his misses being anonymous. Yeah dipshit, we've notice how you fuck up a lot and are no longer willing to let it ride.

Posted by: kansas at April 15, 2011 04:45 PM (srmf8)

123 noticed. It is so annoying to post, see you fucked up, and try to make a correction but you can't take it back.

Posted by: kansas at April 15, 2011 04:46 PM (srmf8)

124 Obama is living an insulated life that appears to be entirely managed by the "Make A Wish Foundation".  I was sorta surprised last week, that he didn't crash the Master's ceremony for ice cream, and a coveted "Green Jacket" ...for his golfing awesomeness, of course.

Posted by: Colt at April 15, 2011 05:11 PM (bbofQ)

125 Ace, you could'a found the link by searching your own blog. That's how I always find it.  It's here: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/070415.php

Preference cascades are exactly why I've shifted from the panting, "we have to win, even if we don't like our candidate" column, to the "Not me, not anymore. I'm voting for someone who will turn this ship around" column.

The simple math on preference cascades is that if everyone said the same damn thing, we'd get a candidate WORTH voting for.

Going in that booth and pressing the "screw me some more" lever, hoping for a different result is truly insane.

Posted by: K~Bob at April 15, 2011 05:23 PM (L6o2V)

126 I'm not one to join in on the game of ragging on Obama for the sake of ragging on Obama.  That is the kind of crap the leftards and their puppets played with Bush.

That being said, the man is (as someone else mentioned already) a true-believing red diaper baby.  But what is worse, he's and INCOMPETENT true believing red diaper baby.

I don't think this is a coincidence though.  To actually believe in Marxism requires cognitive deficits that preclude competence, except perhaps as an idiot savant of some sort ala Pablo Picasso.

People who are possessed of common sense and well-rounded competence aren't leftists.  Some of them might think they are and even claim that they are as they strive to find in leftist ideology some semblance of truth that they can work with, but that isn't the same thing.

To be a leftist is to be incompetent because it is a world view and an ideology that is founded on intellectual dishonesty and an inability to understand the world as it actually is and people as we actually are.

Leftists are particularly blind to the concept of cause and effect.  They get lost when trying to track a course of events from cause to one or more effects.  They just can't do it.  They think that a change in one area won't have any carry on effects in other areas.  More than that, they want to make proclamations of how things should be and expect the universe to alter itself in compliance.  Wishcasting is one of their primary pastimes.  This is the behavior of infants and young children, not competent adults.

They are also ignorant of human nature, both good and bad, and ascribe motivations to people that are rarely accurate.  This is why they are always first to cede authority to those who personify the worst of human nature simply because they say the right things at the right time. 

The only thing that men and women who would live free can do is work each day to reveal their folly and resist their nonsense, unfazed by their name calling and verbal harassment. 

Don't be afraid to be called a racist.  For a leftist to brand you as such is a high honor because it means you represent a truth they cannot refute.

Posted by: Lee Reynolds at April 15, 2011 06:30 PM (/gY4D)

127 From the previous dead thread. 

We have had more than enough time to take BO's measure.  He is a fixed quantity now, and an irritant.  Sort of luck a partially chewed bolus you can't quite swallow.  You might have liked the taste at one point, but now you just want it to go away.

Posted by: pep at April 15, 2011 05:48 PM (gmlb7)

Turd Sandwich

His mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 15, 2011 05:51 PM (QMtmy)

Giant Douche

Posted by: Dave at April 15, 2011 07:33 PM (Se6fN)

128 Ace, very good post.  He's a college socialist who rode his "diversity" of appearance and values all the way to Mecca, baby!

But its really not about him, is it? Its about the folks who promoted him--all  69.4mm of them. Suggestions?

Posted by: Louis Tully at April 15, 2011 07:37 PM (BZEkR)

129 Yes, taking his diversity credit and pushing as much wealth redistribution as he thinks he can possibly get away with.  He believes this is right for America.  I don't doubt that. 

Posted by: Mark in Portland at April 15, 2011 07:50 PM (09YAd)

130 There's also this -- I voted for David Dinkins for mayor of New York a number of years ago. He was the first black mayor the city's ever had. I looked at the guy, and he seemed like a gentleman, not a thug like Sharpe James, and I thought, "Well, the blacks should have a turn at the wheel. Maybe they'll be less resentful if we deal them in more. This guy seems okay."

Dinkins ran a fairly moderate campaign, but as soon as he was in office, he started pandering to the most rancid elements of the black community, and was too afraid of pissing them off to enforce the law. Crime skyrocketed.

New Yorkers were pissed off, and didn't re-elect him. I bet a lot of people were like me: once in the voting booth for the second election, we thought, "Well, I made my demonstration and did my bit for racial harmony. I don't have to prove how broadminded I am any more. And boy, did he suck as mayor."

I'll lay you odds that a lot of Americans are going to be thinking that in 2012. Especially if we can get a good Republican candidate out there, one who will take the fight to the enemy.

Donald Trump right now is playing the harassing, flanking role of cavalryman Jubal Early in the War Between the States. What we need is a good General Lee.

Posted by: Beverly at April 15, 2011 10:32 PM (3n1Ib)

131 If affirmative action is so great, how in the hell did we wind up with Obama?

Posted by: Fat Bald & Sassy at April 16, 2011 02:19 AM (uPJN8)

132 CODDELED He is the poster child for social promotion.

Posted by: William Jackson at April 16, 2011 06:59 AM (OMDm/)

133 The light worker becomes the lite worker. 

Seriously, Al Sharpton could probably do the job better, and I'm damn sure wily old Charlie Rangel could.  Charlie maybe crooked as a cork screw, but stupid he ain't.

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