May 07, 2011

President Bush's Speech Upon the Capture of Saddam Hussein
— rdbrewer

Commenter "Crusty" had a good idea. He went back and looked at George W. Bush's speech after the capture of Saddam Hussein in order to compare it with Obama's self-aggrandizing "I was practically there, man" speech last Sunday. You know, the one where he used the word "I" like a carpenter uses tenpenny nails. Victor Davis Hanson pulled all the first person references:

“Tonight, I can report . . . And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta . . . I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden . . . I met repeatedly with my national security team . . . I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action. . . . Today, at my direction . . . I’ve made clear . . . Over the years, I’ve repeatedly made clear . . . Tonight, I called President Zardari . . . and my team has also spoken. . .These efforts weigh on me every time I, as Commander-in-Chief . . . Finally, let me say to the families . . . I know that it has, at times, frayed. . . .”

Compare that with the speech given by George W. Bush on December 14, 2003:

Good afternoon. Yesterday, December the 13th, at around 8:30 p.m. Baghdad time, United States military forces captured Saddam Hussein alive. He was found near a farmhouse outside the city of Tikrit, in a swift raid conducted without casualties. And now the former dictator of Iraq will face the justice he denied to millions.

The capture of this man was crucial to the rise of a free Iraq. It marks the end of the road for him, and for all who bullied and killed in his name. For the Baathist holdouts largely responsible for the current violence, there will be no return to the corrupt power and privilege they once held. For the vast majority of Iraqi citizens who wish to live as free men and women, this event brings further assurance that the torture chambers and the secret police are gone forever.

And this afternoon, I have a message for the Iraqi people: You will not have to fear the rule of Saddam Hussein ever again. All Iraqis who take the side of freedom have taken the winning side. The goals of our coalition are the same as your goals -- sovereignty for your country, dignity for your great culture, and for every Iraqi citizen, the opportunity for a better life.

In the history of Iraq, a dark and painful era is over. A hopeful day has arrived. All Iraqis can now come together and reject violence and build a new Iraq.

The success of yesterday's mission is a tribute to our men and women now serving in Iraq. The operation was based on the superb work of intelligence analysts who found the dictator's footprints in a vast country. The operation was carried out with skill and precision by a brave fighting force. Our servicemen and women and our coalition allies have faced many dangers in the hunt for members of the fallen regime, and in their effort to bring hope and freedom to the Iraqi people. Their work continues, and so do the risks. Today, on behalf of the nation, I thank the members of our Armed Forces and I congratulate 'em.

I also have a message for all Americans: The capture of Saddam Hussein does not mean the end of violence in Iraq. We still face terrorists who would rather go on killing the innocent than accept the rise of liberty in the heart of the Middle East. Such men are a direct threat to the American people, and they will be defeated.

We've come to this moment through patience and resolve and focused action. And that is our strategy moving forward. The war on terror is a different kind of war, waged capture by capture, cell by cell, and victory by victory. Our security is assured by our perseverance and by our sure belief in the success of liberty. And the United States of America will not relent until this war is won.

May God bless the people of Iraq, and may God bless America.

Thank you.

President Bush's speech is completely outwardly directed. He speaks of the momentous occasion and gives all credit to the military and the intelligence community. There is no attempt to highlight his part in the story. Quite a contrast.

Posted by: rdbrewer at 09:38 AM | Comments (527)
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1
President This Is About Me

Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 09:39 AM (uFokq)

2 rdbrewer , bless you ! new thread.

Posted by: willow at May 07, 2011 09:39 AM (h+qn8)

3
thanks to Obama, we now get to see Osama bin Laden watching television.

Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 09:39 AM (uFokq)

4 Yeah, but Obama is awesome!

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at May 07, 2011 09:41 AM (mGq5S)

5 With Bush, it was never all about him. I still believe he would have rather been Commissioner of Major League Baseball than President, but he felt his party and his country needed him to run, so he did. I'm sure he had the healthy ego and political ambitions that it takes to run for President, but he never saw the office as a chance for taxpayer funded perks and endless rounds of golf.

Posted by: UGAdawg at May 07, 2011 09:42 AM (/VjHB)

6 I keep saying it and it bears repeating often; Bush had class while this Obama guy is a supreme asshole.

http://tinyurl.com/68gw7sp

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 09:42 AM (M9Ie6)

7 He was a better and sincere speaker, miss him and Karen Hues was His speech writer at that time?  a good team. Mature speech nice credit to our fighting soldiers .

Posted by: willow at May 07, 2011 09:42 AM (h+qn8)

8 I think this is bullshit.

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 07, 2011 09:43 AM (th0op)

9 Bush didn't use "me" or "I" because he was doing bad, stupid things that he knew was wrong. Obama's is still cleaning up Bush's messes, so of course he should take credit!!!!

Posted by: Typical Lefty Kneepad User at May 07, 2011 09:44 AM (DXa7u)

10 The right ammount of Bush is tasteful and assures a modicum of maturity.

Posted by: garrett at May 07, 2011 09:44 AM (0vtyz)

11 Commenter "Crusty" had a good idea in comments. S/he went back

Well I hope commenter 'Crusty' isn't a broad. Yikes!

But that is one stellar comparison. Not at all surprising of course, but a fun read nonetheless.


Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 07, 2011 09:45 AM (MIfkS)

12 Who knew rdbrewer was a damnable racist?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 07, 2011 09:45 AM (1fanL)

13 I'm so sick of Democrats with daddy issues and their NPD outlooks.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 07, 2011 09:46 AM (BLd0J)

14 11 Commenter "Crusty" had a good idea in comments. S/he went back

Well I hope commenter 'Crusty' isn't a broad. Yikes!

But that is one stellar comparison. Not at all surprising of course, but a fun read nonetheless.


Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 07, 2011 01:45 PM (MIfkS)

I don't have a problem with the name "Crusty"

Posted by: Curly at May 07, 2011 09:47 AM (NELJT)

15 Um, uh, let me be clear, some say I am a narcissistic asshole, but as I have always said, Bush was too stupid to take credit.

Posted by: Barry Obama at May 07, 2011 09:47 AM (6zFxS)

16 The operation was based on the superb work of intelligence analysts who found the dictator's footprints in a vast country. The operation was carried out with skill and precision by a brave fighting force. Our servicemen and women and our coalition allies have faced many dangers in the hunt for members of the fallen regime, and in their effort to bring hope and freedom to the Iraqi people. Their work continues, and so do the risks. Today, on behalf of the nation, I thank the members of our Armed Forces and I congratulate 'em.

Now here is how you give credit where credit is due, not "I gave the order". 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 09:48 AM (c0A3e)

17 I wonder, though, how I'd ever communicate my greatness to you if I couldn't refer to myself and my greatness by not using the magic "I" word. I do.

Posted by: Barack OGreatness at May 07, 2011 09:49 AM (FcR7P)

18 Obama uses the word "I" like a SEAL uses 9mm rounds. 

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 07, 2011 09:49 AM (BLd0J)

19 Well I hope commenter 'Crusty' isn't a broad. Yikes!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 07, 2011 01:45 PM (MIfkS)

I'd kill for a sexy name like 'Crusty.'

Posted by: Pus Puss at May 07, 2011 09:50 AM (1fanL)

20 Obama spits out the the word "I" like an MP5 spits out lead.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 07, 2011 09:50 AM (BLd0J)

21 I wonder, though, how I'd ever communicate my greatness to you if I couldn't refer to myself and my greatness by not using the magic "I" word. I do.

Posted by: Barack OGreatness at May 07, 2011 01:49 PM (FcR7P)

Two words:  Golden Shower

I'm ready to listen.

Posted by: Paul Krugman at May 07, 2011 09:51 AM (6neGz)

22 A good gas/grocery store post-it would be something like, 'Obama just loves to take credit - make sure he gets it for this ----> [insert arrow to price sign here]'

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 07, 2011 09:52 AM (MIfkS)

23 CLass vs. CRass


Posted by: California Version of Team 6 at May 07, 2011 09:52 AM (jkZYN)

24 GWB: Leader Obama: Reader

Posted by: Andy at May 07, 2011 09:52 AM (z2eEZ)

25 Obama uses the word "I" more often than Michelle chokes down greaseburgers.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 07, 2011 09:52 AM (BLd0J)

26

Any freshman/sophomore HS English student should know that you never, ever, ever use too many first-person references in any paper/speech/etc. - even an autobiography.  You ALWAYS find different ways to express actions, because too much I/me/mine becomes boring very quickly.

Of course, Bamster's speechwriters are juveniles themselves, so I'm not too surprised.  And they do know the mindset of Teh One for whom they are composing these speeches, so I guess they want to keep their jobs....

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at May 07, 2011 09:53 AM (5QW3T)

27 Did Obama ever say "Thanks/Thank you" in his speech? No, he was too busy with "You're Welcome".

Posted by: t-bird at May 07, 2011 09:53 AM (FcR7P)

28 16 Now here is how you give credit where credit is due, not "I gave the order".

Obama actually worked-in two paragraphs about the intelligence community and the troops but it almost sounds like it was lifted from one of President Bush's speeches:

"Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who've worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice.

"We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country. And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day.

It sounds like a mixture of quotes from the Bush Administration. 

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 09:54 AM (P+zzG)

29 The one thing I take away from your comparison is that it appears Obie has no speechwriters, and must write his own. How else to explain the constant references to himself?

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at May 07, 2011 09:54 AM (gvBdW)

30 Sour vag brine

Level 5 yeast infection

as Gertrude Stein said of Oakland, "There's no THERE there."

( read the sentence several times for the full effect )

Posted by: California Version of Team 6 at May 07, 2011 09:54 AM (jkZYN)

31 Dammit!  Bush had better writers.  All I've got is Bill Ayers, that pandagon bitch and Douglas Brinkley. You bastards try working with that.

Posted by: BHO at May 07, 2011 09:55 AM (Sos7/)

32 I'd just like to extend a sincere and heartfelt 'Thank you' to the military and all Americans who were smart enough to vote for me.

Happy, wingnuts?

Posted by: King Barry at May 07, 2011 09:55 AM (1fanL)

33 Interestingly, the media now loves them some military men

( others have realized this but I wanted to say it again )


Posted by: California Version of Team 6 at May 07, 2011 09:56 AM (jkZYN)

34

The more stuff like this comes out the more my retroactive respect for Bush goes up.  I never knew how good we had it under his administration.

Crusty's a he, BTW.

Posted by: Crusty at May 07, 2011 09:57 AM (qzgbP)

35 Somehow I don't think W would've had his admin decide on FEMA assistance by using the governor's political affiliation.  Add Virginia to the Ebola hit list, after Texas.

Posted by: RushBabe at May 07, 2011 09:59 AM (Ew27I)

36 How else to explain the constant references to himself?

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at May 07, 2011 01:54 PM (gvBdW)


Are you trying to say I've never had an original thought?  That's what I thought.

Posted by: BHO at May 07, 2011 09:59 AM (Sos7/)

37 The God who watches Survivor.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 09:59 AM (qIHlG)

38

Did Obama ever say "Thanks/Thank you" in his speech?

No, he was too busy with "You're Welcome".

You think they'd be saying thank you!

Posted by: Barry Obysmal at May 07, 2011 10:01 AM (Ew27I)

39

I'd kill for a sexy name like 'Crusty.'

Posted by: Pus Puss at May 07, 2011 01:50 PM (1fanL)

I hear ya...

Posted by: scabby at May 07, 2011 10:01 AM (Rwudm)

40 Also note the difference in the way the news was announced:

Paul Bremer: "Ladies and gentlemenÂ… we got him! ...The tyrant is a prisoner."

Video

He only spoke for 2min.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 10:03 AM (P+zzG)

41

Somebody else had this observation in comments, which bears repeating:

Obama got bin Laden in the same way that Nixon put a man on the moon

Posted by: Jones at May 07, 2011 10:03 AM (cUNcx)

42

This talk about Crusty...anybody here ever play Battletoads?

The main character's names were Rash, Zitz, and Pimple.  'nuff said.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 10:04 AM (c0A3e)

43

I'd kill for a sexy name like 'Crusty.'

Posted by: Pus Puss at May 07, 2011 01:50 PM (1fanL)

I hear ya...

Posted by: scabby at May 07, 2011 02:01 PM (Rwudm)

Amen, brother.

 

Posted by: Oozer at May 07, 2011 10:05 AM (Ew27I)

44

The main character's names were Rash, Zitz, and Pimple.  'nuff said.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 02:04 PM (c0A3e)

Sounds like a list of my ex-husband's brothers...

Posted by: antisocialist at May 07, 2011 10:05 AM (Rwudm)

45 41

I'd kill for a sexy name like 'Crusty.'

Posted by: Pus Puss at May 07, 2011 01:50 PM (1fanL)

I hear ya...

Posted by: scabby

Dudes, I get so much ass with this name...

Posted by: Crusty at May 07, 2011 10:05 AM (qzgbP)

46

Dudes, I get so much ass with this name...

Posted by: Crusty at May 07, 2011 02:05 PM (qzgbP)

Shiksas!!!!

Posted by: Krusty at May 07, 2011 10:07 AM (6neGz)

47

The very symbol of Affirmative Action bullshit.

All that crap needs to go away for good.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 07, 2011 10:07 AM (uR5Zf)

48 Crusty's a he, BTW.

Got it.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 07, 2011 10:07 AM (BLd0J)

49
W had four uses of "I", all of them outward directed, giving messages of hope to the Iraqis and the American People, and giving his personal congratulations and gratitude to the US Armed Forces.

Class personified.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 07, 2011 10:08 AM (7YzRS)

50

Interestingly, the media now loves them some military men

( others have realized this but I wanted to say it again )

Did anyone else see the Kneepad Express on 20/20 last nite? The young'un's were over and they turned it on. It was a breathless recount of the raid that was obviously meant to convey to an otherwise clueless populace the magnificence of The Vapid One™ and his daring order after many hours of agonizing deliberation to allow ST6 to take out bin Leaden.

I raised some questions about what they were reporting to said young'uns. Maybe they'll think about a few things now when it comes to reporting they hear from the Progressive Pravda.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 07, 2011 10:08 AM (d0Tfm)

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Posted by: ParisParamus at May 07, 2011 10:08 AM (bgSjf)

52

You think they'd be saying thank you!

Posted by: Barry Obysmal at May 07, 2011 02:01 PM (Ew27I)

Oh, man, I'd forgotten that doozy. Not only was it insulting and self-superior, the premise was a lie.

I'll have to add that to my "Obama Screw-Ups List."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 07, 2011 10:09 AM (bxiXv)

53 On a completely unrelated matter I downloaded FF4. Ick. I couldn't stand it. Went back to 3.6.17. Unfortunately it seems like they're retiring that version sometime this year so I'll eventually have to upgrade to V4.

V4 is horrible. The layout is teh suck.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 07, 2011 10:09 AM (MIfkS)

54 Wait, wait, wait...
Fox is showing video of bin Ladin watching television in his high-end hut...and they're saying that it was an "active center for Al Qaeda.
But........I thought he didn't even have cable or satellite or television or any technological wonders of the modern world...wasn't that Dear Leader's administration's original word?
Jeebus, if they can't settle on one damn story, why can't they STFU???

Posted by: antisocialist at May 07, 2011 10:10 AM (Rwudm)

55

Confident, humble servant-leaders are the best kind of leaders.  Not ego-maniacs with image insecurities.

Posted by: HotinNC at May 07, 2011 10:11 AM (SQvIY)

56 60 He had his own fiber optics line.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:12 AM (qIHlG)

57 V4 is horrible. The layout is teh suck.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 07, 2011 02:09 PM (MIfkS)


I keep getting the nag window and I keep telling it later.

Thanks for the heads up. Shit.

OH, and Barky wouldn't even rate shining Bush's shoes.

I denounce myself.


Posted by: Barbarian at May 07, 2011 10:12 AM (EL+OC)

58 V4 is horrible. The layout is teh suck.

After you get used to it it is OK. It does allow you to click on an address in the comments here and open it in a new panel even if the poster did not put it in as a link.

That is handy.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 10:13 AM (M9Ie6)

59 25 GWB: Leader Obama: Reader Perfect!

Posted by: smb at May 07, 2011 10:13 AM (XuiJf)

60

Now here is how you give credit where credit is due, not "I gave the order". 

Well, technically Bammy did give the order...

Petraeus just had the foresight to set up the right go-code: "FORE!"

Posted by: sherlock at May 07, 2011 10:13 AM (thr9V)

61 Comparing President Obama's speech with President Bush's speech for self-centeredness is racist. Stop it now, or you will be arrested for a hate crime.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 07, 2011 10:13 AM (seRb5)

62 I want to share my favorite song.

Bask in my awesome sauce.

Posted by: Barry Obama at May 07, 2011 10:13 AM (6zFxS)

63 V4 is horrible. The layout is teh suck.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 07, 2011 02:09 PM (MIfkS)

To a certain extent you can fix the layout, but what is the compulsion of software designers to screw with the interface? I don't want to go shopping for a car and then find out the pedals are in a different order and the steering wheel turns the opposite way to the wheels.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 07, 2011 10:13 AM (bxiXv)

64
Even then, "on behalf of America".




Good point, I missed that. That's what I get for scanning too quickly.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 07, 2011 10:13 AM (7YzRS)

65 It's how we roll -- we're here for ya.
I'm the only thing between you and the pitchforks.  The Government will provide.  It's not narsa... narco...  (*&^%& ego, it's PR.

MPA is the new MBA, baby.

Posted by: BHO at May 07, 2011 10:14 AM (Sos7/)

66 60 ...Jeebus, if they can't settle on one damn story, why can't they STFU???

They need this moment to distract us from the economy, so we're going to keep hearing about the greatest Warrior in Chief in our history! until they realize they completely oversold this.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 10:14 AM (P+zzG)

67 57 Looks more like Chromes blank piece of paper layout.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:14 AM (qIHlG)

68

The very symbol of Affirmative Action bullshit.

All that crap needs to go away for good.

Posted by: TexasJew at May 07, 2011 02:07 PM (uR5Zf)

This.

Obama is such a collossal fail, it's difficult to describe how this incompetent, arrogant jackass not only was elected President by a 52% majority of fools, he's also the Commander-in-Chief who has the gall to take credit for something he had nothing to do with besides saying, "Okay."

I asked a friend of mine who is in the AF Reserve what he thought about having the JEF as his boss. His reply, "I try not to think about it."

Posted by: ErikW at May 07, 2011 10:16 AM (uZPG8)

69 That is handy.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 02:13 PM (M9Ie6)

But the URL preview popup (as opposed to the old status bar) was not reliable for me, and when I removed it they still had not fixed the security info missing.

Why simply remove the status bar from the design? Not as an option, just remove it completely? Because, um, er, "design philosophy."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 07, 2011 10:16 AM (bxiXv)

70 Fox is teh suck.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:16 AM (qIHlG)

71

Obama is a marxist elitest who believes that the oligarchy or dictator rules. Bush is an american who believes the people rule through their duely elected representative.

That's why you see even a difference in their speech pattern.

Posted by: dagny at May 07, 2011 10:16 AM (sZJTK)

72

Yes, I do miss Bush. All he needed to do was secure the Mexican border and call out the liars in the media and he would have secured a place in history as one of our better presidents.

His failure to do those two things is the reason why we have the JEF in the White House today. Bush played into the hands of the media by not stating the facts when he had the opportunity. Still, he's head and shoulders above the idiot with his hooves on the Resolute Desk whom we have to suffer and this comparison proves it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 07, 2011 10:16 AM (d0Tfm)

73 After you get used to it it is OK...To a certain extent you can fix the layout...

Hmm, maybe I didn't spend enough time on it. I just found it way too stripped down. I'm happy with what I have now and really hate being forced to upgrade when it works for me as is.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 07, 2011 10:17 AM (MIfkS)

74

DIE! Speeder Bike Levels!!!!!

Try playing those in 2-player mode. 

By the Gods, the game designers were sadistic when they thought that scheme up. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 10:17 AM (c0A3e)

75

I asked a friend of mine who is in the AF Reserve what he thought about having the JEF as his boss. His reply, "I try not to think about it."

Posted by: ErikW at May 07, 2011 02:16 PM (uZPG

That's what we always said when Carter was prez.

Posted by: lurker at May 07, 2011 10:17 AM (lI99B)

76 Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 07, 2011 02:08 PM (d0Tfm)

Even by media standards, that 20/20 last night was Vomit-inducing bullshit propaganda.

Everything was about Him, of course, with Him reacting to an op that he had no part in planning and only reluctantly and belatedly approved.

I knew it would be bad, but it was bad-bad

Posted by: California Version of Team 6 at May 07, 2011 10:18 AM (jkZYN)

77 What's the difference if I talk about me or you talk about me?

Posted by: Thoughtful Barry at May 07, 2011 10:18 AM (FcR7P)

78 Status bar is the one on the bottom? I still have it.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:19 AM (qIHlG)

79 Carter was my C-in-C for 6 1/2 months.  That was bad, but having Obom must be much worse.  Worse-worse

only now it's All Good, as Obama is the New Warrior, in the moment while being above it all.

Posted by: California Version of Team 6 at May 07, 2011 10:20 AM (jkZYN)

80 I found the new FireFox annoying at first. You get used to it. It is customizable. Some things can be restored.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:21 AM (qIHlG)

81 There are not enough adjectives to describe Obam's boorish, rude, narcissistic, megalomaniac, power-hungry, power-crazy, self-important, dictatorial, tyrannical, despotic, totalitarian, autocratic, self-centered, intellectually challenged,  personality. But these are a few that come to mind.

Posted by: Buffalobob at May 07, 2011 10:21 AM (QPgXF)

82

Ha! Ha!  Noted Linguist, Noam Chomsky had this to say about the whole sordid affair.  (From Hotair):

It’s increasingly clear that the operation was a planned assassination, multiply violating elementary norms of international law. There appears to have been no attempt to apprehend the unarmed victim, as presumably could have been done by 80 commandos facing virtually no opposition—except, they claim, from his wife, who lunged towards them. In societies that profess some respect for law, suspects are apprehended and brought to fair trial. I stress “suspects.” In April 2002, the head of the FBI, Robert Mueller, informed the press that after the most intensive investigation in history, the FBI could say no more than that it “believed” that the plot was hatched in Afghanistan, though implemented in the UAE and Germany. What they only believed in April 2002, they obviously didn’t know 8 months earlier, when Washington dismissed tentative offers by the Taliban (how serious, we do not know, because they were instantly dismissed) to extradite bin Laden if they were presented with evidence—which, as we soon learned, Washington didn’t have. Thus Obama was simply lying when he said, in his White House statement, that “we quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda.”…

Same with the name, Operation Geronimo. The imperial mentality is so profound, throughout western society, that no one can perceive that they are glorifying bin Laden by identifying him with courageous resistance against genocidal invaders. It’s like naming our murder weapons after victims of our crimes: Apache, Tomahawk… It’s as if the Luftwaffe were to call its fighter planes “Jew” and “Gypsy.”

 

Bwhahaha!  If I was a man, I'd be sporting wood right now!

Posted by: runningrn at May 07, 2011 10:21 AM (ihSHD)

83 What's the difference if I talk about me or you talk about me?

But enough about you..

If Bush was POTUS, headline would read "high gas prices kill Iowa teen"

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 10:22 AM (0vDuM)

84 WTF is with the Bin Laden home videos? Everyone is linking to news reports of them. I'm not interested in news reports. Where are the videos?

Posted by: Rocks at May 07, 2011 10:22 AM (th0op)

85

Obama is a marxist elitest who believes that the oligarchy or dictator rules. Bush is an american who believes the people rule through their duely elected representative.

Posted by: dagny at May 07, 2011 02:16 PM (sZJTK)

Dubya always had a "regular person" vibe, and he seemed to have a life outside politics. He was frequently remarked on by others on that subject.

Obama does not seem to have ever had such a life, and the closest thing we have to an indication of his "normal life" is the dope-smoking teenage picture and a few childhood snapshots. He keeps his personal life, if any, so obscure, I suspect, because it would look/smell strange to others.

I'm guessing his teen years would have looked like Red Dwarf's "Lister" in his teens, annoying everyone by always calling things "crypto-fascist" and singing dissonant songs consisting entirely of the word "om."

Even when he does seem to do "outside stuff," it always looks posed or fake, i.e. beer summit and ice cream shop visits.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 07, 2011 10:23 AM (bxiXv)

86 Just wait until you hear my next escapade! Leon, why don't you tell m- I mean, them- what it's going to be...

Posted by: Adventure Barry at May 07, 2011 10:23 AM (FcR7P)

87 See addon bar.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:23 AM (qIHlG)

88
Remember, I won.

Posted by: President 16 Hours at May 07, 2011 10:24 AM (auR3B)

89 Wow - OBL looks like a serious candidate for being a patient at any of our local state mental institutions, in the videos. 

LOL!

Posted by: Papa Editor at May 07, 2011 10:24 AM (6neGz)

90 And yeah, I really miss having the adults in charge.  It's just painful.

Posted by: runningrn at May 07, 2011 10:24 AM (ihSHD)

91

I'd kill for a sexy name like 'Crusty.'

Posted by: Pus Puss at May 07, 2011 01:50 PM (1fanL)

I hear ya...

Posted by: scabby at May 07, 2011 02:01 PM (Rwudm)

Word

Posted by: Pussy at May 07, 2011 10:24 AM (yQWNf)

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:25 AM (qIHlG)

93 MIKE JONES!

Posted by: Douglas at May 07, 2011 10:25 AM (YKOnu)

94 85 Status bar is the one on the bottom? I still have it.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 02:19 PM (qIHlG)

They must have put it back in after all the complaints.

Did they change the context menus back? The open-in-new-tab and open-in-new-window options had been reversed, I started it up and promptly opened up about 7 windows accidentally.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 07, 2011 10:25 AM (bxiXv)

95

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 02:22 PM (0vDuM)

 

True dat!  With Obama, the media is bending themselves into a pretzel to pontificate on the hidden joys and benefits of high gas prices. 

Posted by: runningrn at May 07, 2011 10:26 AM (ihSHD)

96
Biff McLargehuge!

Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 10:26 AM (uFokq)

97 91 Here.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 02:25 PM (qIHlG)


No, that's MSNBC and Al Jazeera talkin over bits of the videos.

Posted by: Rocks at May 07, 2011 10:27 AM (th0op)

98 Someone needs to put together a video containing both speeches, including an "I/Me/Mine" count, a "We/Us" count, and a "They/Them" count.

Posted by: davidr at May 07, 2011 10:27 AM (ONqbz)

99

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 02:25 PM (qIHlG)

 

Oh the humanity!  The dude doesn't even have a 19" flatscreen!  Geez, all the welfare queens in America have at least a 43" plasma or LCD.  It makes me feel kind of badly for him.

Posted by: runningrn at May 07, 2011 10:27 AM (ihSHD)

100

Ha! Ha! Noted Linguist, Noam Chomsky had this to say about the whole sordid affair. (From Hotair):

Posted by: runningrn at May 07, 2011 02:21 PM (ihSHD)

Talk about someone who deserves a punch in his cakehole on an epic level.

Somebody needs to tell him that "semantics" doesn't *actually* mean changing the meaning of words to suit you at any given time.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 07, 2011 10:28 AM (bxiXv)

101 only now it's All Good, as Obama is the New Warrior, in the moment while being above it all.

Posted by: California Version of Team 6 at May 07, 2011 02:20 PM (jkZYN)

Wasn't there a bit of a kerfuffle about when Obama took office, he replaced the Stars and Stripes with the gold fringed military standard, as if to position himself as a military leader?

Posted by: ErikW at May 07, 2011 10:28 AM (uZPG8)

102 I'm not really into blogarama but I know some of you enjoy watching the trainwreck that is Chuck Johnson. He's inflating his stats as per Zip.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 07, 2011 10:28 AM (MIfkS)

103

It's increasingly clear the operation was a planned assasination, multiply violating norms of international law.

Note the absence of any such concern when bin Leaden murdered 3,000 innocent Americans, which he later took credit for IIRC. Where's his sanctimony over that little violation of international law, hmm?

Chuck Fomsky.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 07, 2011 10:28 AM (d0Tfm)

104 Dubya always had a "regular person" vibe, and he seemed to have a life outside politics.

I recall the media giving him all sorts of shit about taking some time each day to exercise.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 10:29 AM (0vDuM)

105

 Wow - OBL looks like a serious candidate for being a patient at any of our local state mental institutions, in the videos. 

 

He looks just  like any one of the genteel denziens living under the Auroura Bridge. 

Posted by: runningrn at May 07, 2011 10:29 AM (ihSHD)

106

In the Oval Office, I mean.

 

Posted by: ErikW at May 07, 2011 10:29 AM (uZPG8)

107

He looks just  like any one of the genteel denziens living under the Auroura Bridge. 

Posted by: runningrn at May 07, 2011 02:29 PM (ihSHD)

Oh, I don't think he looks that good.  I was thinking more like the crowd that hangs out in White Center.

Posted by: Papa Editor at May 07, 2011 10:30 AM (6neGz)

108

I recall the media giving him all sorts of shit about taking some time each day to exercise.

 

Yeah as they breathlessly reported how Obama and Moochelle fly in their personal trainer from Chi-town to work out with them 3 or 4 times a week and ignore all the golfing and basketball that Obama purportedly plays.  I bet if you had a bike race, golf match or running race, GWB could easily kick Barry's skinny butt any day of the week.


Posted by: runningrn at May 07, 2011 10:31 AM (ihSHD)

109 Awwww, just heard the news about Seve Ballesteros.  Bummer. 

God speed.

Posted by: Papa Editor at May 07, 2011 10:31 AM (6neGz)

110 The status bar I get at the bottom comes from McAfee so I don't know what it would do if I didn't have that. I also get a status bar at the top from no script.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 10:32 AM (M9Ie6)

111 104 Oops. Here.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:33 AM (qIHlG)

112 If y'all really want to see liberals pissing themselves, read the comments on Victor Hanson's more complete exposition on this very topic on NRO.  Every one of them whines about how we're picking on the JEF over insignificant stuff like pronouns while at the same time, they all completely ignore the context Hanson provides over Barry's Earth-sized hypocrisy in the matter...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at May 07, 2011 10:33 AM (uehxp)

113 Awwww, just heard the news about Seve Ballesteros.  Bummer. 

God speed.

Posted by: Papa Editor at May 07, 2011 02:31 PM (6neGz)

I heard that on the way to work this morning. Really good guy, died way too young.

Posted by: ErikW at May 07, 2011 10:34 AM (uZPG8)

114 117 The status bar I get at the bottom comes from McAfee so I don't know what it would do if I didn't have that. I also get a status bar at the top from no script.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 02:32 PM (M9Ie6)

Those are really app plugins. The "status bar" is part of Firefox and displays a few critical pieces of information about links, page errors, and page security.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 07, 2011 10:34 AM (bxiXv)

115 118 You can grab them in MP4 if you have download helper.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:34 AM (qIHlG)

116 "Did Obama ever say "Thanks/Thank you" in his speech?" He didn't thank Debra Burlingame, that's for sure.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 07, 2011 10:35 AM (seRb5)

117

On a completely unrelated matter I downloaded FF4. Ick. I couldn't stand it. Went back to 3.6.17. Unfortunately it seems like they're retiring that version sometime this year so I'll eventually have to upgrade to V4.

V4 is horrible. The layout is teh suck.

Our new 'puter came with IE 9.  You can't use the text attributes on Ace with IE 9.  I have to use FF all the damn time just because of that one stupid glitch.  Thanks for putting us the knowledge of teh suck that's V4.  I'll stick with 3.

 

Posted by: RushBabe at May 07, 2011 10:35 AM (Ew27I)

118 There is an add on bar. Much is customizable also.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:36 AM (qIHlG)

119 I bet if you had a bike race, golf match or running race, GWB could easily kick Barry's skinny butt any day of the week.

GWB has already beaten Barry in the Presidential pitching contest.

Although there's a different type of "pitching" that Barry excels at vs GWB...   Ask Kal Penn. 

/I'm sorry, that joke just doesn't get old! 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 10:36 AM (c0A3e)

120 We are not amused. Happy, wingnuts?

Posted by: HRH Barry at May 07, 2011 10:37 AM (FcR7P)

121 104 Oops. Here.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 02:33 PM (qIHlG)

LOL, million dollar house with jury-rigged electrical outlet. Epic fail.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 10:37 AM (M9Ie6)

122

Awwww, just heard the news about Seve Ballesteros.  Bummer. 

Quickest Dead Pool evah.  Better luck next Friday.

 

Posted by: RushBabe at May 07, 2011 10:37 AM (Ew27I)

123 Obama at Allison Transmission yesterday:

"'I just had a chance to see the hybrid systems that youÂ’re working on at the plant. I love to see high-tech machinery like this,' the president said in remarks to workers.

'I stand there and people explain it to me and I pretend like I know what theyÂ’re talking about,' he continued to laughter. 'But it looked outstanding.'"


Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 10:37 AM (P+zzG)

124

Hmmm, just saw the Osama Home Video on Drudge.

Since there is no sound, I would suggest Springsteens "Glory Days".

Posted by: HH at May 07, 2011 10:37 AM (6oDXl)

125 Status-4-Evar will give you a status bar.  I found that about 5 minutes after installing 4.0.  If I hadn't, I'd have gone back.

Posted by: Gen. Sir Harry Paget Flashman, VC at May 07, 2011 10:37 AM (faA7d)

126 He didn't thank Debra Burlingame, that's for sure.

Posted by: nerdygirl at May 07, 2011 02:35 PM (seRb5)

Evidently she held her tongue. I would let loose on the cocksucker.

Posted by: ErikW at May 07, 2011 10:37 AM (uZPG8)

127 ABC News has the Obama Bin Biden videos toward the bottom.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:38 AM (qIHlG)

128 91 Here.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 02:25 PM (qIHlG)

Four wives and the place is a dump!

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 10:39 AM (VuLos)

129 What do you think of President Obama's performance in handling the killing of OBL?

a) It was Super-Awesome and historic

b) It was Super-Aweome

c) It was Awesome

d) Decline to answer/I'm a racist

Posted by: lLibtard Public Polling, Inc. at May 07, 2011 10:41 AM (wb/Km)

130 125 There is an add on bar. Much is customizable also.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 02:36 PM (qIHlG)

What I don't get is they said they got rid of the status bar to save screen real estate and then made the top bars like 9 feet tall by default.

Also, Flashman, Status-4-Ever doesn't have site security info, and it didn't even install properly for me.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 07, 2011 10:43 AM (bxiXv)

131 136 Goats don't do housework.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:43 AM (qIHlG)

132 Norton Tool Bar was not compatible for me in FireFox.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:44 AM (qIHlG)

133

'I stand there and people explain it to me and I pretend like I know what theyÂ’re talking about,'

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 02:37 PM (P+zzG)

That is about the least surprising thing Obama has ever said.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 07, 2011 10:45 AM (bxiXv)

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 10:46 AM (M9Ie6)

135

 I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action. . . . Today, at my direction . . . IÂ’ve made clear . . . Over the years, IÂ’ve repeatedly made clear .

I'd really hoped y'all were exaggerating about this, but no, not at all. That first sentence would not have been stated that way by most people, probably because it was not really true...

 insignificant stuff like pronouns while at the same time, they all completely ignore the context Hanson provides over Barry's Earth-sized hypocrisy in the matter...

Right. It's all about Pronoun Fear. Sure sign of a racist, you know.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 07, 2011 10:46 AM (XdlcF)

136 You wingnuts always--but always--take it too far. I detest Barack Obama's stupidity and narcissism as much as anyone else, but you people have got to chill out. Until Barry lands a fucking fighter jet on the deck of a motherfuckin' aircraft carrier or something, he's on reasonable ground. For Christ's sake, 2003 wasn't that long ago.


Posted by: Jack Landsman at May 07, 2011 10:47 AM (PYIcY)

137 65 V4 is horrible. The layout is teh suck.

After you get used to it it is OK. It does allow you to click on an address in the comments here and open it in a new panel even if the poster did not put it in as a link.

That is handy.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 02:13 PM (M9Ie6)

--Yeah, I caught that quick.  It does not seem like V4 will save a session when closing tabs though.   Yes, I can go to the History menu and select "Restore last session" but it only restores one window of the last session, not all of them if more than one was open.

Posted by: logprof at May 07, 2011 10:47 AM (wb/Km)

138 Politico on the bin Laden videos:

"The videos, a colleague notes, serve as both the trophy President Obama had suggested we didn't need and an admission of a sort that the Administration still needs to make the case that yes, they really got bin Laden.  An intelligence official today argued that videos of a living bin Laden, which only he would have, in fact prove that he's dead."

No! I never would have known that if you hadn't mentioned it.
/


Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 10:48 AM (P+zzG)

139 May I tell you sir, to get fucked?

I think you will agree, I have fucked a lot of Americans.

I hope you will be one of them.

Posted by: Barry at May 07, 2011 10:49 AM (JpFM9)

140 Until Barry lands a fucking fighter jet on the deck of a motherfuckin' aircraft carrier or something, he's on reasonable ground.

Barry couldn't land a turd on the deck of an aircraft carrier if he was squatting on the number 3 wire.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 10:49 AM (M9Ie6)

141 Well Obama sucks cock so what can you expect.

Posted by: Mr. Pink at May 07, 2011 10:50 AM (VidfH)

142 Firefox is handy if you want to copy a link that is still text because some moron can't post it as a link. Highlight  Right click open in a new tab.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:52 AM (qIHlG)

143 An intelligence official today argued that videos of a living bin Laden, which only he would have, in fact prove that he's dead.

WTF?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 10:53 AM (0vDuM)

144
that is a nice feature

Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 10:53 AM (uFokq)

145

147

An intelligence official today argued that videos of a living bin Laden, which only he would have, in fact prove that he's dead

I never thought the death of Bin Laden would be such a fantastic source of accidental humor of the PR disaster variety.   It sounds like something from Dr Stangelove or Catch-22.  

Posted by: Beagle at May 07, 2011 10:53 AM (sOtz/)

146 145 You wingnuts always--but always--take it too far. I detest Barack Obama's stupidity and narcissism as much as anyone else, but you people have got to chill out. Until Barry lands a fucking fighter jet on the deck of a motherfuckin' aircraft carrier or something, he's on reasonable ground. For Christ's sake, 2003 wasn't that long ago.


Posted by: Jack Landsman at May 07, 2011 02:47 PM (PYIcY)

--The Assclown in Chief is the one taking it too far, 'tard.  Check your stupid before posting here.

Posted by: logprof at May 07, 2011 10:54 AM (wb/Km)

147
I also like "paste & go"

Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 10:54 AM (uFokq)

148

An intelligence official today argued that videos of a living bin Laden, which only he would have, in fact prove that he's dead

I have videos of myself...oh no!!!!

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 07, 2011 10:54 AM (XdlcF)

149
reviews on the Obama Osama vids?


Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 10:55 AM (uFokq)

150 One wonders why they didn't have a cell phone?

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 02:46 PM (M9Ie6)

There are plenty of places in Nevada where cellphones don't work.

But seven fucking weeks? Hell, Nevada ain't but 275 miles across. I can't but walk 4-5 miles a day (maybe could double that in an emergency) because of a health condition, and I bet I could be rescued from any point on even a logging road in Nevada in 3-4 days.

I mean, how far had they driven down that logging road from a highway? I bet it wasn't more than 20 miles.

I'm just gobsmacked at seven weeks. Holy crap. Also, don't split up.

Now, the article did not *say* that she couldn't walk, in fact it said she was walking at the end, but if she was disabled that might explain it.

Also, cut down some branches and make a ramp to get out of the mud.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 07, 2011 10:56 AM (bxiXv)

151

rd- excellent post brother. sent you a message on twitter.

Posted by: journolist at May 07, 2011 10:56 AM (iHfo1)

152 An intelligence official today argued that videos of a living bin Laden, which only he would have, in fact prove that he's dead.

WTF?

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 02:53 PM (0vDuM)

Again, how does one respond?

It's so nonsensical that it renders a rational response impossible.

Posted by: ErikW at May 07, 2011 10:56 AM (uZPG8)

153 I don't care ,Obama is awesome!

Posted by: typical lefty voter at May 07, 2011 10:57 AM (oy/Du)

154 Norm Chomsky, self discribed Ghetto Jooo, now anarchist Jooo hater.

Fuck him.

Posted by: Kemp at May 07, 2011 10:58 AM (JpFM9)

155 erik w. word.   

Posted by: journolist at May 07, 2011 10:58 AM (iHfo1)

156

I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it...

But if you notice in the video...

No, I'm not going to say it.

Posted by: HH at May 07, 2011 10:59 AM (6oDXl)

157 Remember that time when someone spliced audio from various Bush speeches together such that final result contained the lyrics to "Sunday Bloody Sunday?"  I'm thinking that the same should be done with Jug Hussein Ears's speeches but, instead, have them spliced into "I, Me, Mine."

Posted by: Herr Blücher at May 07, 2011 10:59 AM (CzAkh)

158

Posted by: Jack Landsman at May 07, 2011 02:47 PM (PYIcY)

AT this point I would like to quote the great statesman and improvised military leader, Private Leonard Church, who once said:

"Tucker, what the fuck are you babbling about?"

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 07, 2011 10:59 AM (bxiXv)

159 Cell phones work real well in Reno. Even networks like Sprint that suck. Don't know about the hinterlands in Nevada. I liked Reno. Casinos, yet quiet, clean, and most of the bastard people prefer Las Vegas so you don't see them.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 10:59 AM (qIHlG)

160 152 WTF?

His argument is that Osama closely guarded tapes of himself because he was that narcissistic. My comment was because there's really no other reason they would claim they're releasing the tapes.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 11:00 AM (P+zzG)

161 i predict the subject matter of this post will drive minimum 450 comments...unless breaking news comes of Obama renting out Shea Stadium for a "I led the mission" summit.

Posted by: journolist at May 07, 2011 11:00 AM (iHfo1)

162 Osama's lair is a candidate for Pimp My Crib

Posted by: USA at May 07, 2011 11:00 AM (YZISw)

163 Osama's lair. So many wives and not one can keep house? (ducks)

Posted by: USA at May 07, 2011 11:02 AM (YZISw)

164
I don't like hockey but I love some of the names of the players. Out of all sports, hockey has fun names to say.

Za-day-no Chara

Mee-lahn Loo-chitch



Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 11:02 AM (uFokq)

165 So basically, Obama was able to pull this off all on his own because it takes one to know one.  UBL--malignant narcissist.  BHO--malignant narcissist.  Barry just needed to sit down and think for a few moments, "If I was Osama, what would I do?  Where would I hide?"  And presto!  The rest is continuously revised history. 

Posted by: runningrn at May 07, 2011 11:02 AM (ihSHD)

166 161 Again, how does one respond?

It's so nonsensical that it renders a rational response impossible.

But did you expect them to say anything else? I didn't. That's kind of scary.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 11:03 AM (P+zzG)

167 My huge nuts wouldn't be comfortable in a flight suit. A self-reverential speech will have to do.

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 07, 2011 11:03 AM (PYIcY)

168 173 Probably can't make sammiches either.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 11:03 AM (qIHlG)

169

Obama is selfish and arrogant, but I also think he is a sign of a new generation.

He is the first Facebook/Twitter President. Every single damn thing that happens has to be expressed through personal narrative and emotion. No history, no context, no shared culture, just whatever some dumb fuck happens to be feeling at the time.

We say it all the time here, but Obama is a reflection of a large segment of the country (liberals). Self-centered, non-productive, and dangerous.

Posted by: Paper at May 07, 2011 11:03 AM (VoSja)

170 Anyone else see the new Jello Pudding commercials?  They are disturbing yet oddly satisfying.  I can imagine my face looking like that after dipping my balls in their product.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at May 07, 2011 11:03 AM (yQWNf)

171 Obama Bin Laden looks like a hobo.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 11:04 AM (qIHlG)

172 Talk about someone who deserves a punch in his cakehole on an epic level.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith

Somehow, that really sums up my feelings about Noam Chomsky.

Why is academia so full of these arrogant dipshits?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at May 07, 2011 11:05 AM (sJTmU)

173 Could somebody explain how they are getting so much info from Bin Ladens e-mails when he did not have internet service???

Posted by: chillin the most at May 07, 2011 11:05 AM (6IV8T)

174 Drats, hate to run, but I have to go to my one bank and switch some accounts around (so I don't get dinged on my free checking because of Dodd Frank!)  Seriously, as of the 15th of this month, you need to have a $1500 dollar balance in your checking account in order not to pay a monthly fee.  We had opened that checking account with the minimum needed so we could open a money market savings account a few years ago.  (At the time, the interest rates were significantly better--now everything is crappy) for our emergency fund.  Thanks a lot Chris and Barney!  And you dumbass NE RINO's!

Posted by: runningrn at May 07, 2011 11:05 AM (ihSHD)

175 169 Cell phones work real well in Reno. Even networks like Sprint that suck. Don't know about the hinterlands in Nevada. I liked Reno. Casinos, yet quiet, clean, and most of the bastard people prefer Las Vegas so you don't see them.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 02:59 PM (qIHlG)

Instead of some long, drawn-out snarky response, I'll just say that a lot of Nevada doesn't have cell coverage.

It's like Arizona, almost all the population is in a couple of small areas.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 07, 2011 11:05 AM (bxiXv)

176 The story didn't say exactly where they found the van, only that it was in a remote area on a logging road. Elko straddles I-80 so I would expect cell coverage for a ways around the town. But, the area is mountainous which would limit coverage unless you had a satellite phone.

One also questions the "wisdom" of sight-seeing on remote dirt logging roads in the mountains during late winter.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 11:06 AM (M9Ie6)

177 183 He had his own hard wired fiber optics connection.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 11:06 AM (qIHlG)

178

How long will it take for stuff found in the UBL compound to leak out? My guess it that this will continue until about November.

By about July 2012 though, Fox, CNN, and MSNBC are going to have 'Breaking News' updates about the amount of times the interior of the compound was painted.

Posted by: Paper at May 07, 2011 11:06 AM (VoSja)

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 11:06 AM (P+zzG)

180
Gotta love how Fannie Mae was "fixed"

Fannie Mae = Amtrak on steroids.

Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 11:07 AM (uFokq)

181 How about instead of "I" I just say "Barack Obama"?

Posted by: President Barry McFucknull at May 07, 2011 11:07 AM (wb/Km)

182 Smart Military Bloggers: What is the likelihood OBL put a 9mm in his mouth? Would explain why no picture is being released.

Posted by: USA at May 07, 2011 11:07 AM (YZISw)

183 #143

One wonders why fat out of shape people, try to walk out?

She lost 20-30 pounds, but still had enough food in the van to live for six weeks? 

Something about this doesn't smell right.

Posted by: Kemp at May 07, 2011 11:07 AM (JpFM9)

184

Why is academia so full of these arrogant dipshits?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at May 07, 2011 03:05 PM (sJTmU)

Who else would have them?

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 11:08 AM (VuLos)

185 150 Well Obama sucks cock so what can you expect. He said he would do me after I was finished his off but I am still waiting. Maybe we can meet up at the bath house when he gets back to Chicago ... sigh ... in the meantime all I get is Rham.

Posted by: Larry Sinclair at May 07, 2011 11:08 AM (SL1xT)

186 The newest version of FF is great if you love reading "not responding".  Using IE (any version) was the reason for switching. Previous versions of FF seldom hung on me, and the normal fixes (clear cache, defrag, etc) do nothing for this version.

  But  I LOVE the "digital age".

Posted by: irongrampa at May 07, 2011 11:08 AM (ud5dN)

187 118 You can grab them in MP4 if you have download helper.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 02:34 PM (qIHlG)


Got it Flav, thanks.

Posted by: Rocks at May 07, 2011 11:08 AM (th0op)

188

#189

Miss'80s, do you know what is going on with Huntsman? I'm hearing a lot of talk about him, and people I know are starting to really push him rather than Daniels or Pawlenty.

They are disappointed in Pawlenty's ability to gain any traction and are starting to think that Daniels isn't going to be a serious candidate for a while.

Posted by: Paper at May 07, 2011 11:09 AM (VoSja)

189

Why is academia so full of these arrogant dipshits?

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at May 07, 2011 03:05 PM (sJTmU)

Because it's a place where an arrogant dipshit can be a great success. If he had to sell things or build things or solve real problems in his work, he'd be in an alley digging through dumpsters for recyclables.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 07, 2011 11:09 AM (bxiXv)

190 192 Could be, or maybe he wasn't there.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 11:09 AM (qIHlG)

191

We say it all the time here, but Obama is a reflection of a large segment of the country (liberals). Self-centered, non-productive, and dangerous.

Posted by: Paper

What makes them dangerous is not some pre-meidtated evil or malevolence, it's their incredible carelessness and  obliviousness to reality. 

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at May 07, 2011 11:10 AM (sJTmU)

192 191 How about instead of "I" I just say "Barack Obama"? Now you're talkin.'

Posted by: Bob Dole at May 07, 2011 11:10 AM (VXBR1)

193 I have a rich daddy!

Posted by: John Huntsman at May 07, 2011 11:11 AM (BLd0J)

194 Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 03:06 PM (P+zzG)

LOL, he is wasting his time giving a speech in SC. He'll be lucky to get 0.01% of the primary.

As I posted this morning, "on The Issues" puts him to the left of Olympia Snowe.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 11:11 AM (M9Ie6)

195 My new FireFox hangs frequently as well but not as reliably as IE's 100% hang rate.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 11:11 AM (qIHlG)

196

#191

Give it time. I wouldn't be surpised if Obama doesn't start talking about himself in the third person if he wins a second term.

Posted by: Paper at May 07, 2011 11:11 AM (VoSja)

197 While we're all being treated to pics of Binny watching his last TV show or pulling bugs out of his beard, all of the top targets are skeedadlin' to some safe locale.

And instead of acting like the drum majorette of a national masterbation parade he should have kept a tight lid on everything and closed all "family business" in one felled swoop like Michael Corleone.

Now we get nonstop Preznit Preener. Fucking sickening.  

Posted by: ontherocks at May 07, 2011 11:11 AM (HBqDo)

198 Bush was and remains a class act. Obama can never hope to measure up to him in any manner of form and I can only imagine what a condescending shit he must have been during that call.

We immediately offered the gracious Well, that was a class act, calling George W. Bush like that. That's because it isn't reflexive to us to imagine someone being a total prick at a moment such as that. However, in retrospect, wanna bet the call went something like this:

W:  Hello
WH Operator:  Please hold for the President of the United States
W:  Uh, sure
11 minute pause
WH Operator:  I'm now connecting the President of the United States
W:  Okay
Obama:  Uh, yeah, It's President Obama. Yeah, I got him.
W:  Thank you for calling. You got who?
Obama:  I got HIM. And it only took me two years to do it.
W:  Zawhiri? (covers mouthpiece and snickers to Laura, Can you believe this asshole?)
Obama:  No! I got Bin Laden!
W:  Well, congratulations. Where'd you find him?
Obama:  Hiding in plain site where anyone should have been able to find him.
W:  Then that really is quite an accomplishment! Congratulations!
Obama:  Uh, I mean, where he has been for the last six years.
W:  Well, I always knew you'd get 'em.
Obama:  That's right. I got him.
W:  Where are you taking him for questioning?
Obama:  Well, I found him and then he died.
W:  He died? Did his kidneys shut down on him?
Obama:  No. Uh, he pulled a gun and the Seals had to kill him.
W:  Well, dead or alive, either way I'm glad he can no longer inflict pain and suffering on the American people.
Obama:  So, yeah, I just wanted you to know that you can sleep better tonight, because I got him.
W:  Well, thank you for calling Mr. President.
Obama:  Now pardon me. I have to go and tell the world what I have done.

Posted by: Clueless at May 07, 2011 11:12 AM (piMMO)

199 Obama is without a doubt the epitome of narcissism. In fact, he's just a little man riding on the accomplishments of others.

Posted by: rplat at May 07, 2011 11:12 AM (4vq8i)

200

#204

I'm hearing that all of the establishment candidates are going to basically write off SC. The goal for Romney, Huntsman, Daniels, and Pawlenty is to stay close enough to a potential emergent 'populist' candidate (which includes Huck and Palin), and then win the big delegate states like NY and California on Super Monday.

Posted by: Paper at May 07, 2011 11:13 AM (VoSja)

201 She lost 20-30 pounds, but still had enough food in the van to live for six weeks?

Well they did say that she ate a small amount of trail mix each day.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 11:13 AM (M9Ie6)

202 #143
One more thought on the Canadians. 

Want to bet the dumb SOB was never a Boy Scout?

Site seeing on log roads in a foreign country with no map, compass or GPS?

Fucking stupid is being polite.

Posted by: Kemp at May 07, 2011 11:13 AM (JpFM9)

203 Just got this in a Michael Yon e-mail.

Bin Laden's last will

Dated 12/24/2001


Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 11:14 AM (VuLos)

204 You know what word has the letter i in it? Pie.

Posted by: Michael Moore at May 07, 2011 11:17 AM (mGq5S)

205
Dear Barack,

You are truly a magnificent man with superior intellect that towers over all others, especially the naysayers, doom and gloom neer-do-wells, and the rest of America that have yet to recognize your brilliance and invincibility. 

Very Truly Yours,

BHO

Posted by: Barky the Beautiful at May 07, 2011 11:17 AM (ndqJC)

206 213 - I know this may sound stupid but is that real?

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 11:18 AM (SL1xT)

207 I'm hearing that all of the establishment candidates are going to basically write off SC.

I'm only hearing that for Romney. But, as I said a few days ago, the change in the rules made that possible as a strategy because SC is the last of the "proportional primaries" and then it is back to winner take all.

If the primary goes down like it did in 2008 with the top 2 tied at around 30% and the 3rd and 4th at 16% they will be a 4-way split of 47 delegates. So Romney would only be losing a few delegates before moving on to another State with winner take all.

He could then win the same way McLame won, 70% of the base hates him but he wins.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 11:18 AM (M9Ie6)

208 I think the reason they are releasing the videos of Bin Laden is that some people are wondering how "in the loop" Bin Laden was anymore.  So, to show what a good job (and important job) Barry di-not the SEAL's-they have to prove Osama was involved.

Posted by: chillin the most at May 07, 2011 11:18 AM (6IV8T)

209 49

The very symbol of Affirmative Action bullshit.

All that crap needs to go away for good.


It is racist to say that a beneficiary of affirmative action is a beneficiary of affirmative action.


Posted by: Bakkegrutz at May 07, 2011 11:20 AM (Xv7f/)

210 213 - I know this may sound stupid but is that real?

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 03:18 PM (SL1xT)

Yon has it up like it is.

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 11:20 AM (VuLos)

211 Site seeing on log roads in a foreign country with no map, compass or GPS?

LOL, when I first started reading the story I thought it was going to be another one of those "confused elderly couple blindly follows GPS into the desert" stories.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 11:20 AM (M9Ie6)

212

#217

I've heard that for Romney, Hunstman, and Daniels. The only candidate's team who didn't say that was Pawlenty, but they were very disappointed with the debate results and the straw poll results. I heard that they are going to spend more time in Iowa from now on.

Also, I keep hearing that people are concerned about 'wasting' time in SC if Huckabee comes in the race because he will really shift votes around, and it might be worth 'less' if people are not really trying much there.

Posted by: Paper at May 07, 2011 11:20 AM (VoSja)

213 The WaPo is reporting that the idea that Ayman al-Zawahiri is the "brains" behind al-Qaeda is a myth. That's a whole new low in an effort to help Dear Leader.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 11:20 AM (P+zzG)

214 214

You know what word has the letter i in it?

Pie.


Ice cream.  (Where the "I" comes first!)

Posted by: Good Humor at May 07, 2011 11:21 AM (Xv7f/)

215 211 She lost 20-30 pounds, but still had enough food in the van to live for six weeks?

Well they did say that she ate a small amount of trail mix each day.

And as long she remained hydrated and wasn't too active, I'd say this part of the story is believable. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 11:22 AM (c0A3e)

216 jeeze Louise people !!! put your knickers back on fergawdsake... morons sheesh

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at May 07, 2011 11:22 AM (08Pe8)

217
Obama's term will be known in the future history books as "the Man Behind the Curtain Presidency."

the Obama admin is just a little man with a booming voice behind the curtain pulling levers and creating smoke.


Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 11:22 AM (uFokq)

218

I was thinking along the same lines. I remembered the difference.

I am getting tired of the assholes referencing the mission accomplished banner thing. Instead of the common knowledge being that THAT SHIP'S mission was accomplished, The Narrative became "Bush is an idiot". The funny thing is that so many assholes now think Obama should have the banner, cuz, uknow, the war on terror is over nstuff.

The Narrative is that Obama is a genius. He is courageous, etc etc. What a decsion maker. Ironically, we had KSM, so we already "got those responsible for 9/11". obl simply approved the 9/11 attacks, not much more. Obama simply approved (cuz he really had no choice) the mission that killed obl. But, wow, he has sure fucked up everything about it other than the mission itself! 

Posted by: someone please end the axioms & The Narrative at May 07, 2011 11:22 AM (Epj2t)

219
Before I spelled my last name Greene with the extra E, but after Presnit Obama's success running the SEAL team and after action statement, I'm going to begin spelling my name Alvin GreenI with an extra I.  Vote for me for Presnit.

Posted by: Alvin GreenI at May 07, 2011 11:24 AM (ndqJC)

220 223 The WaPo is reporting that the idea that Ayman al-Zawahiri is the "brains" behind al-Qaeda is a myth. That's a whole new low in an effort to help Dear Leader.

That is fucking nonsense.  al-Zawahiri was part of the MB at the tender age of 14;  He was an Islamist before it was "cool" to be one. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 11:25 AM (c0A3e)

221 Bob Dole's balls are hangin' low.

Posted by: Bob Dole at May 07, 2011 11:25 AM (VXBR1)

222 223 The WaPo is reporting that the idea that Ayman al-Zawahiri is the "brains" behind al-Qaeda is a myth. That's a whole new low in an effort to help Dear Leader.

But if Al Zawahiri is really the "brains" behind al-Qaeda, then why've we been celebrating all week? And if Osama was really the brains behind al-Qaeda, then why are TSA parolees fondling my friends  family  constituents   people I heard about   at the airport yesterday?  Its all so confusing.

Posted by: Hillary at May 07, 2011 11:26 AM (Xv7f/)

223
Does anyone on this thread speak Muslim?

Posted by: Joe Biden, VP at May 07, 2011 11:27 AM (ndqJC)

224

You know what the best way to show that Bin Laden was still involved with Al Qaeda?  Use the intelligence gained to take a huge chunk out of their operations.  Once the intelligence is exhausted announce what was taken out that originated from intelligence acqured at Bin Ladens home.

Too bad this great idea isn't an option anymore, thanks to Obama's grandstanding. 


Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 11:27 AM (c0A3e)

225 @234
You all die pig-dogs!

Posted by: Y-not gives it a shot at May 07, 2011 11:28 AM (pW2o8)

226 ynot... you forgot the "Ahola Admarket" at the end .

Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at May 07, 2011 11:29 AM (08Pe8)

227
Did the SEAL's bomb Guam, and was Ben Ladle hiding at the Kit Kat Club?

Posted by: Hank Johnson, D-GA at May 07, 2011 11:29 AM (ndqJC)

228 Posted by: Paper at May 07, 2011 03:20 PM (VoSja)

Huntsman did do the debate and gave this speech so I don't think he intends to skip SC. However, I have heard that Huck is probably not going to run at all.

He came in 2nd here last time but he got a LOT of the religious vote based on the preachers here actually telling their flocks to vote for him. I think they are wised up now as to his record. The rumor mill has Bachmann and T-paw doing well here. I expect a poll to come out soon though after that debate.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 11:30 AM (M9Ie6)

229 Spike the Football

Sounds like a shitty FKOTUS' Fat Kids Suck cartoon. Spike the Football, Jabirah Jump-Rope, and Hernando Hackysack star in "Don't Read that Book, Do Calisthenics Instead!"

Kids! Your mother/grandmother/two dads feed you tasty and affordable food that makes you fat because they're too stupid to know any better! Mommy Government loves you!

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 11:30 AM (0vDuM)

230 You rang?

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 07, 2011 11:30 AM (qIHlG)

231 204 LOL, he is wasting his time giving a speech in SC. He'll be lucky to get 0.01% of the primary.

As I posted this morning, "on The Issues" puts him to the left of Olympia Snowe.

From what I've read, he was apparently more conservative once, especially on fiscal issues. Wonder why he changed?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 11:30 AM (P+zzG)

232 Yep. Regressives love their Moonbat Messiah cuz he's just as self-obsessed as the last one was.

Posted by: Spectre at May 07, 2011 11:30 AM (CsBe1)

233 I think this is my best comment in years;[dog years] Liberals are easier to manufacture than those pleasure model androids in Blade Runner.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2011 11:30 AM (EiH7n)

234 Do you think THIS woman would have had any problems in NV?

http://tinyurl.com/6awjj22

Posted by: Kemp at May 07, 2011 11:31 AM (JpFM9)

235 Too bad they didn't have video of OBL watching Team America.

Posted by: rdbrewer at May 07, 2011 11:31 AM (BLd0J)

236 Indonesian Imbecile has 4 i's in it.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 11:32 AM (qIHlG)

237

Too bad this great idea isn't an option anymore, thanks to Obama's grandstanding. 

Hell yes!!!

I really can't believe all tthis intel leak. I mean I really can't.

What kind of idiots?...

 

Posted by: HH at May 07, 2011 11:32 AM (6oDXl)

238 Next up on flip this shanty.....

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 11:33 AM (qIHlG)

239 From what I've read, he was apparently more conservative once, especially on fiscal issues. Wonder why he changed?

According to on the issues he is in favor of a more "progressive" income tax so I wouldn't call him a "fiscal conservative".

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 11:33 AM (M9Ie6)

240 Huntsman and kiss my ass for that letter he wrote praising Obama. “You are a remarkable leader and it has been a great honor getting to know you,” Huntsman allegedly wrote to Obama in a note written in August 2009 on what appears to be Huntsman’s letterhead while the Republican was serving as governor of Utah. Of Clinton, Huntsman apparently wrote in letter that same month to former President Bill Clinton: his wife ““I must report that Sec. Clinton has won the hearts and minds of the State Dept. bureaucracy—no easy task. And after watching her in action, I can see why. She is well-read, hard working, personable and has even more charisma than her husband! It’s an honor to work with her.” / I have not read the actual letter (if anyone has it please post) but if this is what he thinks about Obama he is pathetic.

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 11:33 AM (SL1xT)

241 Helicopters thwarting no fly zone in Labia.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 11:34 AM (qIHlG)

242 234
Does anyone on this thread speak Muslim?

Posted by: Joe Biden, VP at May 07, 2011 03:27 PM (ndqJC)

Yeah, hair plugs, you want another BLT, extra bacon like last time. 

Hold the spit.

Posted by: AoSHQ Diner's head waitress at May 07, 2011 11:34 AM (JpFM9)

243 I'm not sure it was a wise move for the Obama administration to release video of Osama watching himself on TV.  Seems like something that Obama would do, and I'm sure has done ... many times.

Posted by: Jim Schute at May 07, 2011 11:34 AM (l4hix)

244 From what I've read, he was apparently more conservative once, especially on fiscal issues. Wonder why he changed?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 03:30 PM (P+zzG)

He matured in office.

Posted by: NY Times at May 07, 2011 11:35 AM (1fanL)

245 Mr. Rdbrewer, i bet South Park will have another decade and or more movies if the Chinese rulers here allow it to be so.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2011 11:35 AM (EiH7n)

246 The weirdest part of all this circus surrounding bin Laden is watching some Truthers swoon over his death.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 11:36 AM (P+zzG)

247

Yeah, hair plugs, you want another BLT, extra bacon like last time. 

Posted by: AoSHQ Diner's head waitress at May 07, 2011 03:34 PM (JpFM9)

My last trip to Katie's I ate the Moon pie.  Moon's a waitress at Katie's.

Posted by: Joe Biden, VP at May 07, 2011 11:37 AM (ndqJC)

248 I thought mooselimps were forbidden from wearing silk?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 07, 2011 11:38 AM (qIHlG)

249 I just got beeeautiful flowers delivered from my son!

Yeah, I cried.....

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 11:39 AM (VuLos)

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 07, 2011 11:40 AM (MIfkS)

251

The article in the sidebar on Bin Laden's sympathy brigades. 

I think a lot of the Europeans criticizing those American twentysomethings who went out to celebrate Bin Laden's death are forgetting that Bin Laden ruined the childhoods of all those young adults to one degree or another.  I was older and in tune with the increase in jihadi terror, especially Bin Laden (Khobar, embassies, Cole).  But remember all those news stories about traumtized kids after 9/11?

So in a nutshell, fuck you Eurotrash pundits -- especially the Archdhimmi of Canterbury and Ken Livingston -- two men who vie for most contemptible every time it's up for grabs. 

 Why does international law never apply in places like North Korea or Syria, where it could actually make things better.

Ugh, they literally make me sick to my stomach. 

Posted by: Beagle at May 07, 2011 11:40 AM (sOtz/)

252 262 Aw, Happy (early) Mother's Day!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at May 07, 2011 11:41 AM (MIfkS)

253

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 03:39 PM (VuLos)

Awww....

Posted by: HH at May 07, 2011 11:41 AM (6oDXl)

254 252 According to on the issues he is in favor of a more "progressive" income tax so I wouldn't call him a "fiscal conservative".

The Cato Institute was once one of his bigger fans on tax policy, but that was before he became an ambassador. Though he was always more liberal on social issues, so there's that. He's not an impressive figure.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 11:41 AM (P+zzG)

255

It is amazing that Obama's speechwriters haven't learned the first lesson of Presidential rhetoric.   It's found, most notably, in the Gettysburg Address:

Four score and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent, a new nation, conceived in Liberty, and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are met on a great battlefield of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field, as a final resting place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate—we cannot consecrate—we cannot hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it, far above our poor power to add or detract. The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. It is for us the living, rather, to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom— and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Presidential speeches, especially in times of national crisis or moments where national security is at stake, should always be in the first person plural, not the first person singular.  It's always about "us"; it should never be about "me."   The narcisissm of President Obama is on full display in this truly poor speech. 

Posted by: The Right Curmudgeon at May 07, 2011 11:41 AM (nov+8)

256 I just got beeeautiful flowers delivered from my son!

Yeah, I cried.....

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 03:39 PM (VuLos)

Reason #356 why there are more male than female animals in kids' books.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 07, 2011 11:41 AM (1fanL)

257 I'm not a fan of Huntsman at all, but I think it is part of a bigger push that Republican insiders are making to have a 'moderate' candidate. Romney is taking extreme care to not run to the right this time, Daniels was very popular in establishment circles for talking about the social issues 'truce', and Huntsman is already there in his stated policy positions.

Posted by: Paper at May 07, 2011 11:44 AM (VoSja)

258 Was GW Bush dumb or what?

He didn't take all the credit of others hard work and sacrifice.

I see what SMART Power is now.

Posted by: jukin at May 07, 2011 11:45 AM (vkkNZ)

259 262 - Tami is that your son that is in the military? ... so sweet .. Happy Mothers Day! ... my son is bringing some friends over tomorrow who are musicians and they are having a bbq at my place and it will be fun. I don't know what I would do without him. But, wish he would give me some grandkids soon .. sigh ...

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 11:45 AM (SL1xT)

260
My mom will receive flowers tomorrow, and go to my favorite Mexican food restaurant.  When visiting Texas, act like a Texacan and love it.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 07, 2011 11:46 AM (ndqJC)

261 I posted this at HotAir a few days ago. Big contrast.

Also, Bush was not the first to announce it. He let Bremer announce it

Posted by: KOW at May 07, 2011 11:47 AM (TbM8N)

262 Thanks everyone.  Yeah, gesc....he's in Afghanistan. 

Mmmm...bbq?  I'll need a time and address.

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 11:49 AM (VuLos)

263 If you think it's dangerous getting between Moochelle and a tamale, try blocking Barky's access to a mirror, microphone, video camera, or a teleprompter.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 07, 2011 11:50 AM (bvXGR)

264 Obama dyes and hair...and Osama dyed his hair...hmmmmmmm

Posted by: beedubya at May 07, 2011 11:50 AM (AnTyA)

265 Here's Barky having a romantic (or erotic) dream conversation:
 
"I love me."
 
"I love me too."

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 07, 2011 11:55 AM (bvXGR)

266 275 - yep real southern bbq. perfect! ... I wish my mother was alive. She was the rock for my father and thankfully she passed after him. He was an original SEAL one of the first frogmen. She went thru many nights and days of wondering. I loved his whole crew. They were a tight group and a lot of fun as we had parties at our house all the time growing up. They drank massive amounts of wine! Good guys all of them and I bet they would spit on Obama at the same time doing what he needed to do for their country. I miss my parents.

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 11:55 AM (SL1xT)

267 The other night Larry Johnson from No Quarter blog was on the John Batchelor show.  He said the "burial at sea" story was a myth, and was making the SEAL's angry.  He suggested that the body had been dropped over the mountains.

Posted by: chillin the most at May 07, 2011 11:56 AM (6IV8T)

268

This may be part-way off-topic, but something occurred to me today about the Republican debate that I wonder if everybody noticed.

Specifically, about the focus group. There were two "shows of hands" that really speak volumes, if you put them together:

At one point, Luntz asked, "Do you believe Obama is a socialist?" Practically all of them raised their hands, and Luntz seemed kind of taken aback. He asked them why they thought that, and the result was both encouraging and discouraging at the same time. Mostly they mentioned "Joe the Plumber", which was encouraging, because apparently at least somebody noticed that "the king is naked" moment. But I was disappointed that nobody tied it to Obama's actions while in office.

Now, keep in mind that Alinsky-fied narrative that calling Obama a socialist makes you a racist.

Which brings us to the second "show of hands" of interest, where they were asked which candidate they liked best. As you all know, this entirely white (IIRC) focus group selected the only black candidate as their favorite. (Maybe they're just racist against biracial people!)

"Myth Busted!" (As if it was ever credible to begin with).

Posted by: Optimizer at May 07, 2011 11:56 AM (F56VB)

269 Can I just eat my falafel?

Posted by: Osama at May 07, 2011 11:56 AM (AnTyA)

270 He was an original SEAL one of the first frogmen. She went thru many nights and days of wondering. I loved his whole crew.

Original SEAL!? Wow! I bet you heard a lot of great stories.

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 11:59 AM (VuLos)

271

#281

We talked about this the other day. I think that many primary voters are tired of the race-baiting by liberals, think that is the reason why Republicans won't attack Obama, and look at Cain or West as a way out.

I think Republicans in office just aren't messaging well at all and just aren't very conservative. The (R)s in office don't call him a socialist because they are to the left of their base voters. The base thinks the (R)s are scared of being labeled a racist, but they are really scared of not being re-elected and they are sure that being too conservative is a negative.

Primary voters are more than a bit naive if they think the liberal smear machine skips a beat with a Black (R) candidate. See Blackwell, Steele, Keyes.

Posted by: Paper at May 07, 2011 12:03 PM (VoSja)

272 On that SEAL Team we cannot learn present history for xamount of years because of terrorism and retributions. As though we were fighting the mafia we can not learn about fighting, about heroes. Same on the border concerning accurate and timely news. Reporters are afraid. People are afraid many times cause of US or Mexican gangs and in turn withhold info to cops. On top of these layers of shit and pretentiousnesses is the regular socialistic slant of most news. Our heroes are taken away for security reasons you understand.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2011 12:04 PM (EiH7n)

273 283 - Tami - actually those guys did not talk about their missions and things they did ... my father only told my mother about one thing that happened during a mission ... she shared it with me after he passed and it was not pretty ... people do not know what they do and they do not tell ... so when people say they know ... I bet they do not.

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 12:05 PM (SL1xT)

274 I really think Huntsman is a non-starter.  It's one thing for Utahns to vote for the son of one of their beloved business leaders (and philanthropists) for governor; it's quite another to vote for that guy after he's spent time disavowing his religion and not following through on things he promised.  Gov. Herbert is not endorsing Huntsman.  I have yet to meet anyone here who speaks highly of Huntsman.  Hubby has yet to encounter any major donor (prospects) for Huntsman. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:07 PM (pW2o8)

275

29 ..."Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who've worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice." ...

Er, didn't he mean to say "But tonight, they feel the fear of being prosecuted by my Justice Dept"?

 

Posted by: Optimizer at May 07, 2011 12:07 PM (F56VB)

276 283 - one thing about the SEALS that I mentioned the other day is that they definitely give credit to the men and women behind the scenes. Because, if not for the regular military they could not do what they do and I know for a fact that they are grateful. Unlike our CiC, they do not do the "I" thing.

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 12:08 PM (SL1xT)

277 ...and that my friends it the difference between a child and a MAN....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 07, 2011 12:10 PM (eOXTH)

278 The best part about this job is watching tapes of myself to make sure I gave myself enough credit.

Posted by: Studious Barry at May 07, 2011 12:10 PM (FcR7P)

279 Gov. Herbert is not endorsing Huntsman.  I have yet to meet anyone here who speaks highly of Huntsman.  Hubby has yet to encounter any major donor (prospects) for Huntsman. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 04:07 PM (pW2o

Not good when native son status is not even supported.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 12:11 PM (M9Ie6)

280 yep....they don't tell...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 07, 2011 12:11 PM (eOXTH)

281 Does this narcissm make my ass look big?

Posted by: Barry "The Fuckin' Hammer" Obama at May 07, 2011 12:12 PM (Txl/u)

282 I completely agree Obama is not right in the head.  Does any one in the MSM get the same feeling?

Posted by: pat at May 07, 2011 12:12 PM (Jmn++)

283

How long will it take for stuff found in the UBL compound to leak out? My guess it that this will continue until about November.

By about July 2012 though, Fox, CNN, and MSNBC are going to have 'Breaking News' updates about the amount of times the interior of the compound was painted.

Posted by: Paper at May 07, 2011 03:06 PM (VoSja)

Or more likely for sale on Ebay

Posted by: Jackhole at May 07, 2011 12:14 PM (+qHxi)

284 What the hell could possibly go wrong here?!
Posted by: laceyunderalls

I don't think this one will be a big hit on the Sunday book thread.


Posted by: Retread at May 07, 2011 12:14 PM (+QRP2)

285 @292
Yeah, the dad is really wealthy and by all accounts a really wonderful guy, but I just don't see him spending his entire fortune on a losing proposition.  People really love Mitt here and a lot of it has to do with how he saved the Olympics. 

I'm just a little surprised that someone in the LDS church hasn't talked him out of running.  But maybe he wouldn't listen to them since he's not really serious about his faith.  Still, you'd think he'd listen to his dad and his dad is high up in the church. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:14 PM (pW2o8)

286 pat....no...the msm LOVES him.....honestly.....reporters could make a real name for themselves if they would just exposed him

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 07, 2011 12:14 PM (eOXTH)

Posted by: Zombie George Harrison at May 07, 2011 12:15 PM (GfhFm)

288 294 barry no, but it makes you look like an ass......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 07, 2011 12:15 PM (eOXTH)

289 I snorted a massive line of coke off of Larry's crank.

Posted by: B+rry The Magnificent at May 07, 2011 12:16 PM (1A70x)

290 PG, hi! And so far you are right. but there must be some creeping doubt.

Posted by: pat at May 07, 2011 12:17 PM (Jmn++)

291

298@292
Yeah, the dad is really wealthy and by all accounts a really wonderful guy, but I just don't see him spending his entire fortune on a losing proposition.  People really love Mitt here and a lot of it has to do with how he saved the Olympics. 

I'm just a little surprised that someone in the LDS church hasn't talked him out of running.  But maybe he wouldn't listen to them since he's not really serious about his faith.  Still, you'd think he'd listen to his dad and his dad is high up in the church. 

 

I am freaked out about the LDS after reading "Under the Banner of Heaven"

Posted by: Jackhole at May 07, 2011 12:17 PM (+qHxi)

292 301 - did you use to post at another blog? I kinda sorta remember your posting style?

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 12:17 PM (SL1xT)

293

Merkel was charged with a crime for saying something positive about Bin Laden being killed.  The charge: endorsing a crime. 

Europe is mostly insane.  A hundred crazed Bin Laden "supporters" are opposed by "right-wing extremists" in England.  Merkel is charged with a crime for saying something amazingly bland and noncontroversial.  Wilders needs 24-7 protection to stay alive and he's the one on trial...  The examples go on and on.   

 

Posted by: Beagle at May 07, 2011 12:17 PM (sOtz/)

294 Hey, phoenixgirl, how's the temp down there?  Hubby has to go down there sometime soon.  The last time I was in Tempe in May I almost melted!

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:17 PM (pW2o8)

295 302 - LOL.

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 12:18 PM (SL1xT)

296
I have the funny feeling that the next bit of spin to come out of the White House will be about how a member of Seal Team 6 is a homosexual.

Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 12:21 PM (uFokq)

297 I am freaked out about the LDS after reading "Under the Banner of Heaven"

I'm Roman Catholic so although a lot of the origins of their faith are completely foreign to me (and not something I could ever accept), the structure of their church in terms of having a lot of hierarchy and "rules" feels familiar to me. 

I think you can look into any religious sect and find something weird or objectionable (including my own).  I figure it's for God to judge which of us - if any! - have it "right."  So I judge people by how they treat me, others, and each other and what they contribute to society.  By that standard, Mormons are a.o.k. by me.  This has honestly been the quickest adjustment we've ever made in a move (and we've moved quite a bit) and a lot of that is because the folks in the Wards (their parishes) make an effort to be neighborly. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:21 PM (pW2o8)

298 My speech...

Praise Jesus, We Capped Bin Laden

Posted by: Cherry π at May 07, 2011 12:21 PM (+sBB4)

299 If you hooked up Obama Sinatra to a lie detector it would create a black hole just full of itself. [black hole=those willy dilly things in space]

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2011 12:21 PM (EiH7n)

300 Was this posted? Osama's burial at sea. http://tinyurl.com/3oy36lx

Posted by: madamex at May 07, 2011 12:22 PM (ice9D)

301 Afternoon, all.  Just returned from my own personal crack house, Lowe's.  Managed to leave with only two items that weren't on my list.

And the weather here is beautiful, which makes me feel sad and guilty for those suffering with the floods, and trying so hard to recover from the tornadoes. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 12:24 PM (UOM48)

302 What is really funny right now is the polls. Before idiot Trump they were bouncing back and forth between Romney and Huck based on nothing but name recognition.

Trump took a couple of them and drug both Romney and Huck numbers down. So it is odd that we hear Huck may not run at all.  Note that at RCP Hunstman is not even listed on the polls.

I think the polls currently reflect a lack of satisfaction with ANY of the candidates that are in the polls. That could be a bad thing for Republicans since we are not that far away from the Iowa caucuses.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 12:26 PM (M9Ie6)

303 314 Afternoon, all.  Just returned from my own personal crack house, Lowe's.

heh. 

I find Lowe's a bit overwhelming, so I usually dress cute so that I get good service! 


Speaking of home improvement-y things, has anyone ever used one of those self-contained drum style composters?  I saw one listed at Costco for $150 (I think it held 55 gals).  I don't want to have to set up a corner of the yard for a compost pile so this looked like a nice way to get one going. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:27 PM (pW2o8)

304 It's hard to find a man/woman that can govern, command and be an effective killer like G. W..

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2011 12:29 PM (EiH7n)

305 Petey is the product of 70's psychology but still manages to warp even that.  IE:  Instead of "I'm okay, you're okay", it's "I'm okay, I'm okay.  Who the fuck are you?".

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 12:30 PM (O55hK)

306 Speaking of home improvement-y things, has anyone ever used one of those self-contained drum style composters?

Nope but what I have found if I am looking to buy something like that I go to Amazon and do a search on them and read the reviews. People are very good about writing those things there.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 12:30 PM (M9Ie6)

307 Dang it, forgot telegenic.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2011 12:30 PM (EiH7n)

308 Speaking of speeches:

ATLANTA — Recent college graduates will soon be getting advice from an ex-president.

Former President Jimmy Carter is set to deliver Georgia State University's spring commencement address.

The Georgia Democrat is scheduled to deliver the address at 2 p.m. Saturday at the Georgia Dome. The event is open to the public.

Darn, missed it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 12:31 PM (UOM48)

309 286 283 - Tami - actually those guys did not talk about their missions and things they did ... my father only told my mother about one thing that happened during a mission ... she shared it with me after he passed and it was not pretty ... people do not know what they do and they do not tell ... so when people say they know ... I bet they do not.

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 04:05 PM (SL1xT)

Well, not necessarily his 'mission' stories....more after mission stories. ;o)

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 12:32 PM (VuLos)

310 86F and partly cloudy in Houston right now.

Side note: My sister graduated from college today.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 12:32 PM (P+zzG)

311 I find Lowe's a bit overwhelming, so I usually dress cute so that I get good service!

This is the one thing I like about Wally-World - that gambit doesn't work, all us dregs are equal!     Ah, I'm just kidding.

btw, the screams from CAIR and the ACLU are forthcoming:

Muslim group: 2 imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina - CNN

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 12:33 PM (c0A3e)

312 When I die and IF I go to heaven, my first question is going be "Why the hell can't the AOSHQ comment software keep italics?

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 12:34 PM (VuLos)

313 Side note: My sister graduated from college today.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 04:32 PM (P+zzG)


Congratulations! 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 12:35 PM (UOM48)

314 323 86F and partly cloudy in Houston right now.

81 and mostly sunny here.

Congrats to your sister.  Does she have a job lined up? 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:35 PM (pW2o8)

315 I saw one listed at Costco for $150 (I think it held 55 gals).

Look like they are cheaper at Amazon.

http://tinyurl.com/6emxtqp

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 12:35 PM (M9Ie6)

316 Dear Tami, please don't say that in the mirror 3 times.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2011 12:36 PM (EiH7n)

317 This is the one thing I like about Wally-World - that gambit doesn't work, all us dregs are equal!

I must be hotter than I realized.    I got really attentive service from the guys in the Christmas department when I was looking for lights at Wal-Mart this year. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:37 PM (pW2o8)

318 Thanks, Vic.

I'm reading up at gardening forums. 

I don't want anything too major.  Just something to get me started for my Victory Garden. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:37 PM (pW2o8)

319 Muslim group: 2 imams pulled from plane bound for North Carolina - CNN

Yeah, I saw that one.

I wonder if a passenger complained and the pilot took the heat to protect the passenger.  If so, god bless him.

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:39 PM (pW2o8)

320 When I die and go to hell, I will say "Oh, so you are ace"

/

Posted by: Cherry π at May 07, 2011 12:39 PM (+sBB4)

321 Had something happen to me today that surprised me (pleasantly).  I had finished putting a few groceries in the car, and a guy offered to take my cart to the cart corral.  I thanked him, and as I turned to get in my car, he saw the "My son is a U. S. Marine" sticker on my car, and said, "So, your son is a Marine?"  I said, "yes", and he shook my hand and thanked me and wished me a happy Mother's Day.

I got in the car and had to fight back tears. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 12:39 PM (UOM48)

322 326 Congratulations!

Thanks-- we're all proud of her. She received her BA in Math and already has a job lined-up right outside her college town.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 12:39 PM (P+zzG)

323 {{pat}}

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 07, 2011 12:40 PM (eOXTH)

324 Dear Tami, please don't say that in the mirror 3 times.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2011 04:36 PM (EiH7n)

Now ya tell me....

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 12:40 PM (VuLos)

325
Quick, somebody get this trademarked before Steve Jobs does...

iPres

Posted by: BHO at May 07, 2011 12:41 PM (RvW28)

326 336 {{pat}}


That hot, huh? 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:42 PM (pW2o8)

327 "I got really attentive service from the guys in the Christmas department when I was looking for lights at Wal-Mart this year. "

ummm... sorry but I don't really work at Wal-Mart

Posted by: Cherry π at May 07, 2011 12:42 PM (+sBB4)

328 Did anyone hear else Orin Hatch this morning ripping the second-guessers and pity-Obama crowd?

Posted by: toby928™ at May 07, 2011 12:42 PM (GTbGH)

329 or Orrin

either or

Posted by: toby928™ at May 07, 2011 12:43 PM (GTbGH)

330 She received her BA in Math and already has a job lined-up

OMG, AmishDude would be so jazzed to hear that!


@338

Yep. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:43 PM (pW2o8)

331 Quick, somebody get this trademarked before Steve Jobs does...

iPres

Posted by: BHO at May 07, 2011 04:41 PM (RvW2

Speaking of that.. bid lObamba send his iReggie on the raid to report ?

 

Posted by: Jackhole at May 07, 2011 12:44 PM (+qHxi)

332 Noam Chomsky reacts to Osama's killin' (notice he doesn't go after Barry):

From HA:

We might ask ourselves how we would be reacting if Iraqi commandos landed at George W. Bush’s compound, assassinated him, and dumped his body in the Atlantic. Uncontroversially, his crimes vastly exceed bin Laden’s, and he is not a “suspect” but uncontroversially the “decider” who gave the orders to commit the “supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole” (quoting the Nuremberg Tribunal) for which Nazi criminals were hanged: the hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of refugees, destruction of much of the country, the bitter sectarian conflict that has now spread to the rest of the region.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 12:44 PM (UOM48)

333 >>"Why the hell can't the AOSHQ comment software keep italics?
Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 04:34 PM (VuLos)

Just use the arrows as a back up just in case.

congrats on flowers and mothers day tomorrow btw

Posted by: ontherocks at May 07, 2011 12:44 PM (HBqDo)

334 Obama Administration: OBL living in luxury in a $1 million compound. Video Evidence: OBL living in a trash-strewn shit hole not fit for a goat. I'd like to know why I was lied to.

Posted by: Carnoustie at May 07, 2011 12:45 PM (CDtZU)

335 These lefties all disgust me.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 12:45 PM (P+zzG)

336 Would you like to have some of the flesh of your savior and drink some of his blood for lunch tomorrow?

Infidelicious!   

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 12:45 PM (c0A3e)

337 342 Did anyone hear else Orin Hatch this morning ripping the second-guessers and pity-Obama crowd?

Well, I'm sure he's sincere. 

He still needs to retire, though.

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:45 PM (pW2o8)

338 ynot yes, that hot!

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 07, 2011 12:46 PM (eOXTH)

339 why is hatch still a senator and why does pakistan still exist?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 07, 2011 12:46 PM (eOXTH)

340 yes, that hot!

I almost took a job at ASU (this would've been around 2000).  I needed to test some equipment to see if it would work for my expts, so I had to go back there in May (my interview was in March or April, I think, when the weather was simply stellar).  'Made the mistake of walking back from campus to my hotel in the afternoon without a hat.  I almost died. 

I really love Tempe and also Scottsdale, but boy is it scary-hot there.  Still, it's a great place for Spring training.  'Hope we can get out there next year. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:49 PM (pW2o8)

341 If I'm going to get a sales call, can they at least do it in English?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 12:49 PM (P+zzG)

342 Obama Administration: OBL living in luxury in a $1 million compound.

Video Evidence: OBL living in a trash-strewn shit hole not fit for a goat.

I'd like to know why I was lied to.

Posted by: Carnoustie at May 07, 2011 04:45 PM (CDtZU)

 

Yeah.  I've seen restrooms at run-down gas stations that look much better than that.  I can't even imagine the smell in that shithole. 

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 12:50 PM (O55hK)

343
Speaking of home improvement-y things, has anyone ever used one of those self-contained drum style composters?  I saw one listed at Costco for $150 (I think it held 55 gals).  I don't want to have to set up a corner of the yard for a compost pile so this looked like a nice way to get one going. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 04:27 PM (pW2o

If you don't turn them, check the moisture and watch the green/brown mix religiously, they compost pretty slowly. And 55 gallons will have problems keeping up with the clippings from anything larger than a half acre lot.

We got one and don't use it anymore.

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 07, 2011 12:50 PM (7+pP9)

344

This just in:

The Obumbler administration in cooperation with Time Life Books will be offerring a full Commemorative set of  DVDs of the Osama home videos, narrated by "Teh One"

They will be released in time for the 2012 election.

Posted by: Jackhole at May 07, 2011 12:50 PM (+qHxi)

345 We might ask ourselves how we would be reacting if Iraqi commandos landed at George W. BushÂ’s compound, assassinated him, and dumped his body in the Atlantic.

Chomsky would be celebratin' way more than we are about OBL.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 12:50 PM (0vDuM)

346 Obama Administration: OBL ran global Al Queda out of Pakistan compound. Video Evidence: OBL a sad, pathetic shadow of himself reduced to watching "The Greatest Hits Of OBL" on video and playing Atari Pong on 70's era tv. Hey, that just doesn't add up.

Posted by: Carnoustie at May 07, 2011 12:51 PM (CDtZU)

347 Thx, Ed.

Reading the reviews at costco it sounds like everyone liked the idea behind the design, but the execution was flawed.  The lid is hard to take off. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:52 PM (pW2o8)

348 Right. We need some dead heads shot in Pakistan with an explanation on why we murderfied them.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 07, 2011 12:52 PM (EiH7n)

349 355 If I'm going to get a sales call, can they at least do it in English?

¿Usted tiene gusto de comprar algunos episodios de NCIS?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 12:53 PM (c0A3e)

350

This just in:

The Obumbler administration in cooperation with Time Life Books will be offerring a full Commemorative set of  DVDs of the Osama home videos, narrated by "Teh One"

They will be released in time for the 2012 election.

Posted by: Jackhole at May 07, 2011 04:50 PM (+qHxi)

 

Order now and get a free copy of "How I played golf and still got him"

Posted by: Jackhole at May 07, 2011 12:54 PM (+qHxi)

351 Speaking of home improvement-y things, has anyone ever used one of those self-contained drum style composters?  I saw one listed at Costco for $150 (I think it held 55 gals).

I bought 65gal one today from Sam's Club for $98.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 07, 2011 12:54 PM (GTbGH)

352 ynot spring training is the best...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 07, 2011 12:54 PM (eOXTH)

353 Thanks-- we're all proud of her. She received her BA in Math and already has a job lined-up right outside her college town.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 04:39 PM (P+zzG)

That's what I'm talkin' 'bout!

All good things come from math.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 07, 2011 12:55 PM (73tyQ)

354 Obama Administration: 40-minute intense fire fight all up and down that compound. Video Evidence: One goat herder/ trash burner taken out after offering armed resistance. I could go on and on but I won't. You get the idea.

Posted by: Carnoustie at May 07, 2011 12:56 PM (CDtZU)

355 spring training is the best...

Yeah, really it's great.  We time our trips to Scottsdale for when there's that arts festival, so we catch some games and go to the festival.  We like the Scottsdale stadium the best.  We tried Tucson one year, but we weren't nearly as happy with it. 

I am envious of your access to AJ's which I consider to be the best grocery store on the planet.  The last time we were there we stayed at a B&B in North Scottsdale that had a kitchen and did a lot of our own cooking. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:57 PM (pW2o8)

356 366- are you talking baseball? If so, AAA is the best ... great guys, kids, families, cheap tickets, not so many egos ... just great baseball!

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 12:58 PM (SL1xT)

357 So since many of you are familiar with composting,  is there any special trick to getting a hobo to compost effectively? 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 12:59 PM (pW2o8)

358 I really love Tempe and also Scottsdale, but boy is it scary-hot there.

I had a friend and co-worker who went out to the Palo Verde station in AZ (Wintersburg, Arizona) to work. He sent me an e-mail back and said that it got so hot there they could not mount their heat pumps on the ground.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 12:59 PM (M9Ie6)

359

congrats on flowers and mothers day tomorrow btw

Posted by: ontherocks at May 07, 2011 04:44 PM (HBqDo)

Thanks...it was really sweet and a surprise to get them.

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 01:00 PM (VuLos)

360 Its 5 o:clock someone kick the can over and wake up one of the co-bloggers. Time for a new thread.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 01:01 PM (M9Ie6)

361 GM recalling all 150,000 Cruze's over steering, transmission, and other problems. Hubby points out that GM tripled their profits this year (or quarter, not sure which). 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 01:01 PM (pW2o8)

362 So since many of you are familiar with composting,  is there any special trick to getting a hobo to compost effectively? 

Meat and fats in your compost pile is bad.  It slows the composting and attracts vermin.  Leftover hobo parts should be disposed of in your crawl space or rural logging road.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 07, 2011 01:01 PM (GTbGH)

363 Hubby points out that GM tripled their profits this year (or quarter, not sure which).

Its easy to increase profits when the previous years had huge losses and bankruptcy.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 01:03 PM (M9Ie6)

364 Besides which, if you have too much left over your wasting your transient bounty.  Look into home rendered soap and bone meal for the garden.

Use everything but the squeal.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 07, 2011 01:03 PM (GTbGH)

365 363 355 ¿Usted tiene gusto de comprar algunos episodios de NCIS?

It's usually someone from India pretending to have a Midwestern dialect and reading from a script. If they ask anyway questions, it's hard to tell what they mean.

/Gör dig behöver fråga?

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 01:03 PM (P+zzG)

366 If so, AAA is the best ... great guys, kids, families, cheap tickets, not so many egos ... just great baseball!

+1 to that.  And hardly anyone ever gets beaten to a bloody pulp for wearing the wrong hat.  

We have rookie league out here (Orem Owlz).  'Looking forward to the start of their season. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 01:04 PM (pW2o8)

367 So since many of you are familiar with composting,  is there any special trick to getting a hobo to compost effectively? 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 04:59 PM (pW2o

Dump it in the ocean with a muslim ceremony

 

Posted by: Jackhole at May 07, 2011 01:04 PM (+qHxi)

368 Leftover hobo parts should be disposed of in your crawl space or rural logging road.

Just make sure that rural logging road is not in the remote mountains near Elko, NV in the Winter and you take more than trail mix and water with you.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 01:04 PM (M9Ie6)

369 From the sidebar: Pakistan Outs One of Our CIA Station Chiefs. It's getting bad. [Ben] Really now, this Paki-bashing is getting out of hand. They're wonderful people--just terribly misunderstood.

Posted by: John Wayne Gacey at May 07, 2011 01:04 PM (VXBR1)

370 It's usually someone from India pretending to have a Midwestern dialect and reading from a script.

And calling themselves "Michael" or "Paul."

Seems kinda racist to me, assuming Americans can't handle taking a call from Sandeep.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 01:05 PM (0vDuM)

371 379 363 355 That should be "any".

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 01:06 PM (P+zzG)

372 Pakistan Outs One of Our CIA Station Chiefs.
It's getting bad. [Ben]

Sounds like good fodder for a new thread.

Ben????

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 01:06 PM (M9Ie6)

373 A-men to minor league b-ball.  AAA is the best bang for the buck, though.

Posted by: AmishDude at May 07, 2011 01:07 PM (73tyQ)

374 The double posting tradition continues in the sidebar.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 07, 2011 01:07 PM (GTbGH)

375 The Paki's really love their children.

Posted by: John Wayne Gacey at May 07, 2011 01:07 PM (VXBR1)

376 Dump it in the ocean with a muslim ceremony

You know, the Obama admin lied about everything else associated with the raid, why would anyone believe the "Muslim ceremony" bit?


Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 01:08 PM (0vDuM)

377 The Paki's really love their children.

They're not bad with curry.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 07, 2011 01:08 PM (GTbGH)

378  GM recalling all 150,000 Cruze's over steering, transmission, and other problems. Hubby points out that GM tripled their profits this year (or quarter, not sure which). 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 05:01 PM (pW2o

That was this quarter, besides the accounting tricks they use and the fact that their debt mysteriously dissappeared most of their profits were in the US and caused by the earthquake in Japan. They had less competition. Their profit in China actually dropped.

 Their stock is still below issued price.

Posted by: robtr at May 07, 2011 01:08 PM (MtwBb)

379 Besides which, if you have too much left over your wasting your transient bounty.  Look into home rendered soap and bone meal for the garden.

Use everything but the squeal.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 07, 2011 05:03 PM (GTbGH)

 

Either that or keep them alive in the basement and bring 'em up periodically to bleed them out around the rose bushes. 

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 01:10 PM (O55hK)

380 Everything but the squeal.  I love that.  You guys are so helpful! 

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 01:11 PM (pW2o8)

381 377 >>Hubby points out that GM tripled their profits this year (or quarter, not sure which).
Its easy to increase profits when the previous years had huge losses and bankruptcy.
Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 05:03 PM (M9Ie6)

I bet if you looked at the income statement it would indicate that they did really well with their fudge.

Posted by: ontherocks at May 07, 2011 01:11 PM (HBqDo)

382 Obama the I Me My president. Let me be clear... I am great!

Posted by: lions at May 07, 2011 01:11 PM (BUnJ9)

383 You know, the Obama admin lied about everything else associated with the raid, why would anyone believe the "Muslim ceremony" bit?


Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 05:08 PM (0vDuM)

Are you kidding? With this asshat's history of licking Mooslime booty, that's about the only thing you can believe.

Posted by: antisocialist at May 07, 2011 01:11 PM (Rwudm)

384 384 And calling themselves "Michael" or "Paul."

Seems kinda racist to me, assuming Americans can't handle taking a call from Sandeep.

What concerns me is when you have to make a payment or ask an important question and they send the call half-way around the world. You can't always be sure it's gone through or that the individual can properly answer your question.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 01:11 PM (P+zzG)

385 Nice to see the sndGorn making a comeback.

Posted by: garrett at May 07, 2011 01:12 PM (L6Wx+)

386 BTW, sulfuric acid will dissolve pretty much any body part but gall stones.

Word to the wise.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 07, 2011 01:13 PM (GTbGH)

387 OK, time to rouse myself from my pizza and beer induced stupor and enjoy the great outdoors for a bit.  Have fun, folks!

Posted by: Y-not at May 07, 2011 01:13 PM (pW2o8)

388 So Osama watches himself on TV.

Huh.  Much like Dear Leader.

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 01:13 PM (penCf)

389 348 Obama Administration: OBL living in luxury in a $1 million compound.

Video Evidence: OBL living in a trash-strewn shit hole not fit for a goat.

I'd like to know why I was lied to.
  Well now, in all fairness, some really rude people did throw him a little "surprise party" shortly before he left the premises, and trashed the place.   ;-)

Posted by: Optimizer at May 07, 2011 01:14 PM (F56VB)

390 Speaking of the sidebar how about this:

The supercarrier is dead. Long live the supercarrier.

LOL, I heard that the entire time I was on the Enterprise. The sub guys called us targets, the AF said we were dead meat with 30 min of a Soviet missile launch and it went on and on and on.

The problem was that there was always more missions for carriers then than we had carriers. It is the same way now and they are talking about taking down the carrier groups by two!

As for the Soviet missile launch they have to find you first. We played games with them one year and proved that if we want to hide from them we can. Its a big ocean out there.

The sub guys also have to get inside the destroyer escort screen and evade the fast attack as well (I don't think that info is classified).

The problem is the Democrat ALWAYS want to increase socialism and decrease defense. They figure killing a super carrier is a good way to do that. Besides, who gives a shit if the sailors are stuck at sea for 9 months instead of 6.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 01:14 PM (M9Ie6)

391 Roses are red Violets are blue. This thread is dead And so am I.

Posted by: Rip Torn at May 07, 2011 01:15 PM (VXBR1)

392 Seems kinda racist to me, assuming Americans can't handle taking a call from Sandeep.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 05:05 PM (0vDuM)

I have trouble having them get over my name.

Posted by: Manmeet at May 07, 2011 01:15 PM (73tyQ)

393 Well now, in all fairness, some really rude people did throw him a little "surprise party" shortly before he left the premises, and trashed the place.   ;-)

Posted by: Optimizer at May 07, 2011 05:14 PM (F56VB)

...and now it's fit for me to live in!!

Posted by: a goat at May 07, 2011 01:16 PM (Rwudm)

394 Is it possible to start a new thread within a thread?

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 01:16 PM (SL1xT)

395 >>You know, the Obama admin lied about everything else associated with the raid, why would anyone believe the "Muslim ceremony" bit?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 05:08 PM (0vDuM)

I've read that the ceremony fell through when the Navy couldn't get any volunteers to step forward for the goat butt sex.

....researching for link now 

Posted by: ontherocks at May 07, 2011 01:17 PM (HBqDo)

396 Which of you morons got to name some of the Kentucky Derby runners? Stay Thirsty and Pants On Fire have to be moron horses.

Posted by: Retread at May 07, 2011 01:17 PM (+QRP2)

397 So Osama watches himself on TV.

Huh.  Much like Dear Leader.

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 05:13 PM (penCf)

 

I would also say that watching the Osama videos is much more attention-grabbing than any of Dear Leader's tv appearances.

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 01:18 PM (O55hK)

398 Um.. to Obama .. I mean Usama ... watching tv .. was he munching Cheetos? ... the whole thing is pathetic.

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 01:19 PM (SL1xT)

399 408 Is it possible to start a new thread within a thread?

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 05:16 PM (SL1xT)

Let's see

Posted by: toby928™ at May 07, 2011 01:19 PM (GTbGH)

400 Speaking of the sidebar how about this:

The supercarrier is dead. Long live the supercarrier.

LOL, I heard that the entire time I was on the Enterprise. The sub guys called us targets, the AF said we were dead meat with 30 min of a Soviet missile launch and it went on and on and on.

The problem was that there was always more missions for carriers then than we had carriers. It is the same way now and they are talking about taking down the carrier groups by two!

As for the Soviet missile launch they have to find you first. We played games with them one year and proved that if we want to hide from them we can. Its a big ocean out there.

The sub guys also have to get inside the destroyer escort screen and evade the fast attack as well (I don't think that info is classified).

The problem is the Democrat ALWAYS want to increase socialism and decrease defense. They figure killing a super carrier is a good way to do that. Besides, who gives a shit if the sailors are stuck at sea for 9 months instead of 6.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 05:14 PM (M9Ie6)

They still bust out the B52s sometimes and they haven't made those things in decades. I love those things. Look at the F4s. Everytime someone declares something is dead the battlefield finds use for it. The death of the supercarrier has been greatly exagerrated.  

 

Posted by: Jackhole at May 07, 2011 01:20 PM (+qHxi)

401

407  ...and now it's fit for me to live in!! [by a goat]

See how they are? The US improves the neighborhood, and all the Pakis do is complain, complain, complain!

Posted by: Optimizer at May 07, 2011 01:21 PM (F56VB)

402 Watching "Live Free or Die Hard" and just realized Timothy Oliphant plays the villian in that movie.

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 01:22 PM (O55hK)

403 413 408 Is it possible to start a new thread within a thread? Infidel sorcery! You'll be sorry you made connections to unknown worlds.

Posted by: Mullah Goatass at May 07, 2011 01:22 PM (VXBR1)

404 410 Which of you morons got to name some of the Kentucky Derby runners? Stay Thirsty and Pants On Fire have to be moron horses.

Either of those horses will do.  However, I haven't really rooted for a horse since Smarty Jones blew it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 01:23 PM (UOM48)

405 They still bust out the B52s sometimes and they haven't made those things in decades.

My father worked on the avionics for those things. My older brother worked on upgrading them at the same base decades later.

They were still sitting on alert pads the last time I saw any news of them.

For a really good read on the old BUFs read Flight of The Old Dog by Dale Brown

http://tinyurl.com/3mh3yko

(early jump on Sunday book thread)

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 01:25 PM (M9Ie6)

406 417 - Sir! my genie raises your genie two rubs! ...

Posted by: Usame previously known as Obama at May 07, 2011 01:25 PM (SL1xT)

407

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 05:16 PM (SL1xT)

Let's see

Posted by: toby928™ at May 07, 2011 05:19 PM (GTbGH)

 

I think Sarah Palin is very much electable and would be a great president.

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 01:27 PM (O55hK)

408 421 - a maltov cocktail would have been better.

Posted by: gesc at May 07, 2011 01:28 PM (SL1xT)

409 That constant "I, me, my" thing must be a verbal tic. No one with a healthy balance could be that self absorbed.

Posted by: Pigilito at May 07, 2011 01:29 PM (CU+o0)

410 Smarty Jones blew it.

That was a heartbreaker, wasn't it?

Posted by: Retread at May 07, 2011 01:29 PM (+QRP2)

411 Which one of you moronettes is this?  (It darn sure isn't me.):


DEAR ABBY: My wife likes to sunbathe in the nude in our side yard. Anyone walking by on the sidewalk, or riding by on a bike or in a car can easily see her over our 3-foot-tall picket fence.

She is a beautiful woman and has nothing to be ashamed of, but knowing strangers can see her in the buff makes me uncomfortable. She says I should get over it. Should I?-- EMBARRASSED ON ELM STREET

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 01:29 PM (UOM48)

412

They still bust out the B52s sometimes and they haven't made those things in decades. I love those things. Look at the F4s. Everytime someone declares something is dead the battlefield finds use for it. The death of the supercarrier has been greatly exagerrated.  

 

Posted by: Jackhole at May 07, 2011 05:20 PM (+qHxi)

I don't think they are flying the f 4 anymore are they? They used them as wild weasles in the 80's but I think they have been replaced by f 18's

Posted by: robtr at May 07, 2011 01:29 PM (MtwBb)

413 No one with a healthy balance could be that self absorbed.
Posted by: Pigilito at May 07, 2011 05:29 PM (CU+o0)

Ah, asked and answered Your Honor.

Posted by: Perry Mason at May 07, 2011 01:31 PM (HBqDo)

414

Mucho Macho Man has a cool ring to it AAAAAND that's all I know about horse racing.

Which is nothing. I don't care.

Posted by: ErikW at May 07, 2011 01:32 PM (uZPG8)

415 They still bust out the B52s sometimes and they haven't made those things in decades.

My father worked on the avionics for those things. My older brother worked on upgrading them at the same base decades later.

They were still sitting on alert pads the last time I saw any news of them.

For a really good read on the old BUFs read Flight of The Old Dog by Dale Brown

http://tinyurl.com/3mh3yko

(early jump on Sunday book thread)

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 05:25 PM (M9Ie6)

Sounds like a good read. Nothing says I love you like a good old fashioned carpet bombing.

 

Posted by: Jackhole at May 07, 2011 01:33 PM (+qHxi)

416 Mmmmmmm.  Horse steak.

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 01:33 PM (O55hK)

417 This comparison should go viral!      Reckon it will be included in Barry's 60 Minute interview?

Posted by: Soetoro Zero at May 07, 2011 01:33 PM (eDKGZ)

418 431 Mmmmmmm.  Horse steak.

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 05:33 PM (O55hK)


I take it you're Fwench?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 01:34 PM (UOM48)

419 Which one of you moronettes is this?

Not me. My skin hurts just looking out the window at the sun.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 01:35 PM (0vDuM)

420 Anyone walking by on the sidewalk, or riding by on a bike or in a car can easily see her over our 3-foot-tall picket fence.

That's a really big rack

Posted by: Cherry π at May 07, 2011 01:35 PM (+sBB4)

421 Smarty Jones blew it. Who's It?

Posted by: madamex at May 07, 2011 01:36 PM (ice9D)

422

I take it you're Fwench?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 05:34 PM (UOM4

 

Nope.  Stalingrad-German.

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 01:37 PM (O55hK)

423

Chad Connely elected SC GOP Chairman today

This will be viewed as a defeat for Nikki Haley who supported someone else.

However, he is more conservative than the previous wonk and is not located in the area of the Graham power base. Hopefully he will steer SC Republicans in a more conservative direction.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 01:37 PM (M9Ie6)

424

They still bust out the B52s sometimes and they haven't made those things in decades. I love those things. Look at the F4s. Everytime someone declares something is dead the battlefield finds use for it. The death of the supercarrier has been greatly exagerrated.  

 

Posted by: Jackhole at May 07, 2011 05:20 PM (+qHxi)

I don't think they are flying the f 4 anymore are they? They used them as wild weasles in the 80's but I think they have been replaced by f 18's

Posted by: robtr at May 07, 2011 05:29 PM (MtwBb)

Seems like they retired them in 96 from what I could find out. The did participate in the Gulf war extensively. They were ancient then.

 

Posted by: Jackhole at May 07, 2011 01:38 PM (+qHxi)

425 Anyone walking by on the sidewalk, or riding by on a bike or in a car can easily see her over our 3-foot-tall picket fence.

Do they give an address? I need a new "more scenic" location for my morning Dr. Detroit walks. 

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 01:38 PM (M9Ie6)

426 Anyone walking by on the sidewalk, or riding by on a bike or in a car can easily see her over our 3-foot-tall picket fence.

That's a really big rack

Posted by: Cherry ð at May 07, 2011 05:35 PM (+sBB4)

 

That's one nifty hose carrier that guy's got.

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 01:39 PM (O55hK)

427 DEAR ABBY: My wife likes to sunbathe in the nude in our side yard. Anyone walking by on the sidewalk, or riding by on a bike or in a car can easily see her over our 3-foot-tall picket fence.

She is a beautiful woman and has nothing to be ashamed of, but knowing strangers can see her in the buff makes me uncomfortable. She says I should get over it. Should I?-- EMBARRASSED ON ELM STREET

uh, you know my standard answer to a question such as this, but this couple has bigger problems than gawking passer-by;  They live on freaking ELM STREET!  One, two, Freddy's coming for you...


Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 01:39 PM (c0A3e)

428 Smarty Jones blew it.

Who's It?

I may be crazy, but not that crazy.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at May 07, 2011 01:43 PM (DCSiq)

429 uh, you know my standard answer to a question such as this, but this couple has bigger problems than gawking passer-by;  They live on freaking ELM STREET!  One, two, Freddy's coming for you...


Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 05:39 PM (c0A3e)

heh

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 01:43 PM (UOM48)

430 Photo of AQ's Situation Room on Drudge

Posted by: USA at May 07, 2011 01:44 PM (YZISw)

431 445 Photo of AQ's Situation Room on Drudge

VH 1 missed one hell of an opportunity for an ep of Pimp My Crib.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 01:46 PM (UOM48)

432 Gotta say, I am going with Mucho Macho Moron #13 in the Kentucky Derby, just seemed right.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 07, 2011 01:46 PM (IXLvN)

433 From the sidebar, Pockiston outs CIA station chief. I didn't even know we had gay CIA station chiefs.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 07, 2011 01:46 PM (1fanL)

434 Pelosi leads delegation of 7 Ds and 1 R to Iraq
Rather lopsided politically but it's hard to tell why that is.

Also, The Hill has been carrying a headline about how Boehner has nominated a Jesuit to be the new chaplain of the House. The article sounds like they're trying to promote controversy in spite of the fact that there are more Catholics in high places than Protestants. It's not like they can hire a chaplain for every religious group or denomination in Congress.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 01:46 PM (P+zzG)

435 More evidence that Huntsman is doomed:

http://tinyurl.com/6xulj2c

While Huntsman was finishing up in China, his campaign was taking shape under the direction of John Weaver, a veteran strategist who once was a top adviser to Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.). Weaver has recruited others from past McCain campaigns and elsewhere to staff HuntsmanÂ’s possible run.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 01:46 PM (M9Ie6)

436 uh, you know my standard answer to a question such as this, but this couple has bigger problems than gawking passer-by;  They live on freaking ELM STREET!  One, two, Freddy's coming for you...

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 05:39 PM (c0A3e)


Your standard answer would have been just fine spoilsport.

Posted by: F Krueger biking on Elm Street at May 07, 2011 01:46 PM (HBqDo)

437 My wife likes to sunbathe in the nude in our side yard


Not me.  I always wear a bunny sticker above my please cave.

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 01:47 PM (penCf)

438 uh, you know my standard answer to a question such as this, but this couple has bigger problems than gawking passer-by;  They live on freaking ELM STREET!  One, two, Freddy's coming for you...

mmmmmmmm naked sunbather...

fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap fap slice slice snip slice fap fap fap fap

Posted by: Freddy Kruger at May 07, 2011 01:47 PM (DCSiq)

439

For a really good read on the old BUFs read Flight of The Old Dog by Dale Brown

Linky no workie, Vic. But I found it anyway.

Posted by: Mama AJ, who sees (and hears!) B-52s almost every day at May 07, 2011 01:47 PM (XdlcF)

440

I don't think they are flying the f 4 anymore are they? They used them as wild weasles in the 80's but I think they have been replaced by f 18's

Heck, Eglin is running low on QF-4s (target drones) that they are heading to the boneyard to create QF-16s.  Other Air Forces still fly the F-4 though.

Posted by: DSkinner at May 07, 2011 01:48 PM (cbIC/)

441 Fried chicken or ribs?

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 01:48 PM (O55hK)

442 Not me.  I always wear a bunny sticker above my please cave.

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 05:47 PM (penCf)


dammit momma....cleaning up iced tea off keyboard

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 01:49 PM (UOM48)

443

dammit momma....cleaning up iced tea off keyboard

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 05:49 PM (UOM4



It has been raining for 2 straight months in OH.  I really needed a good laugh.

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 01:50 PM (penCf)

444 Linky no workie, Vic. But I found it anyway.

Sorry I'll repost in case someone else wanted it.

http://tinyurl.com/3ty4vz4

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 01:51 PM (M9Ie6)

445
Q: When do you know a Republican president has committed impeachable offenses?
A: At the moment he takes the oath of office.


Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 01:51 PM (WmBF6)

446 Always a tear-jerker story before the Running of the Roses.

I had a friend in Atlanta who was from Kentucky (she was the unfortunate friend who dated lefty loon Mike Malloy briefly).  She used to throw great Derby parties.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 01:52 PM (UOM48)

447 Fried chicken or ribs?

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 05:48 PM (O55hK)

What's with the OR?

Posted by: Tami at May 07, 2011 01:52 PM (VuLos)

448

JWF:

Not only did the Pakistanis let a mass murderer live right under their noses -- they also looked the other way on zoning-code violations!

They didn't even go after him for unpaid property taxes

I'm starting a rumor that Osama isn't dead but has become a member of Obama's cabinet.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 07, 2011 01:53 PM (XdlcF)

449
Q: When do you know, uncontroversially, that a Republican preisdent is guilty of war crimes?

A: The moment he orders a military action.




Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 01:53 PM (WmBF6)

450 This was probably mentioned yesterday, but I missed it somehow:

The First-Person Presidency

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 01:53 PM (penCf)

451

Posted by: Freddy Kruger at May 07, 2011 05:47 PM (DCSiq)

Freddy Kruger has always struck me as the Roman Polanski of slasher-murderers as he always goes after teenagers. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 07, 2011 01:53 PM (c0A3e)

452 As a former horse owner, and someone who has been riding since the age of five, I get misty-eyed over those magnificent animals. 

Now back to our regularly scheduled snark.  heh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 01:55 PM (UOM48)

453

 She used to throw great Derby parties.

I've always wanted to throw a combo Cinco de Mayo/Derby party.

I picture people getting really drunk and racing horse piñatas around the yard.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 07, 2011 01:55 PM (XdlcF)

454
If George Bush is uncontroversially guilty of war crimes, then Barack Hussein Obama, mmmm mmmm mmmm is equally and uncontroversially guilty of war crimes in Libya and against Somali smelly-pirate-hooker-citizens.


Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 01:55 PM (NwOSU)

455

It has been raining for 2 straight months in OH.  I really needed a good laugh.

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 05:50 PM (penCf)

Get ready for another month of rain, it ain't over yet.

 

and what's a bunny sticker?

 

Posted by: ErikW at May 07, 2011 01:55 PM (uZPG8)

456 Pants on Fire's jockey is a ginger!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 01:56 PM (UOM48)

457 When do you know there's a D in the WH?

When the NYSlimes has to carry stories/pics from 2005.

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 01:56 PM (penCf)

458

I'm starting a rumor that Osama isn't dead but has become a member of Obama's cabinet.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 07, 2011 05:53 PM (XdlcF)

 

Terrorist Czar.

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 01:57 PM (O55hK)

459 468

 She used to throw great Derby parties.

I've always wanted to throw a combo Cinco de Mayo/Derby party.

I picture people getting really drunk and racing horse piñatas around the yard.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 07, 2011 05:55 PM (XdlcF)

You didn't get your invite to the WH this year? 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 01:57 PM (UOM48)

460 Barack Hussein iBama

Posted by: OxyCon at May 07, 2011 01:58 PM (mSI0a)

461
More evidence that Huntsman is doomed:

heh

How Not Be Elected President

page 1: Hire McCain's 2008 advisers and campaign organizers.


Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 01:58 PM (NwOSU)

462

Get ready for another month of rain, it ain't over yet.

 

and what's a bunny sticker?

 

Posted by: ErikW at May 07, 2011 05:55 PM (uZPG


Seriously?!  Another freaking month?  I am so sick of being inside!!11!!11!


A playboy bunny sticker. So when you take it off you can see how tan you are.


PS:  I used to call it my pleasure cave but hubby thought I meant 'for his pleasure'.  Now it is my please cave because he has to ask very, very nicely (and I want pleased)

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 01:59 PM (penCf)

463 472 When do you know there's a D in the WH?

When the NYSlimes has to carry stories/pics from 2005.


Yeah, wouldn't want to incite violence against our military by showing Osama now, would we?

Screw the Slimes.  We know who they're rooting for.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 02:00 PM (UOM48)

464

442 DEAR ABBY...

 

Er, um... what city did you say that was?

Posted by: Optimizer at May 07, 2011 02:00 PM (F56VB)

465 Bacon and eggs.  That's it.

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 02:00 PM (O55hK)

466 Always a tear-jerker story before the Running of the Roses.

They do the same stuff nearly every big sporting event, the Olympics sob stuff is really OTT. I guess they think they're doing a story about perseverance in the face of adversity but it comes across as though we should give them the win out of pity. Sports media is as bad as the rest of the MBM.

Oh, and get off my lawn!

Posted by: Retread at May 07, 2011 02:00 PM (+QRP2)

467 The Village People just chose Mucho Macho Man.  Surprise!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 02:02 PM (UOM48)

468 WOW: What could this note be?

Video Catches Obama Passing Secret Note to Air Force General

What is RAI News?

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 02:03 PM (penCf)

469 Politico is running some articles that make it sound like OBL was still completely in-charge, in-control, and had his hands in everything. They also have some pieces which should be titled "He Won, You Stupid Wingnuts".

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 02:04 PM (P+zzG)

470 483 WOW: What could this note be?

Video Catches Obama Passing Secret Note to Air Force General

What is RAI News?

Italian state TV.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 02:04 PM (P+zzG)

471 WOW: What could this note be?

Video Catches Obama Passing Secret Note to Air Force General

What is RAI News?

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 06:03 PM (penCf)

 

It read:  Your uniform is just so hawt!

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 02:06 PM (O55hK)

472 Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 06:04 PM (P+zzG)

Thanks.

What do you think the notes said?

Plus, I wonder if this has happened before.

Plus, plus why did it take the Italian state TV to catch this?  Wonder if our media caught it and ignored it/didn't show it.

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 02:07 PM (penCf)

473

Mrs. North just rolled back the computer a couple weeks during a routine troubleshooting adventure precipitated by a superfluous and unnecessary hardware "upgrade" that cost me $197.

Would it kill you to send me all your porn already?

Posted by: Truman North at May 07, 2011 02:07 PM (K2wpv)

474

I know Cahrles Jhonson is now officially an irrelevant clown...but this is fun anyway.

He's been busted by Weasel Zippers for inflating his hit count by 400%

Posted by: beedubya at May 07, 2011 02:07 PM (AnTyA)

475 WOW: What could this note be?

Video Catches Obama Passing Secret Note to Air Force General

What is RAI News?
Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 06:03 PM

Coin exchange, probably.

Posted by: huerfano at May 07, 2011 02:09 PM (6zFxS)

476

Say, has anybody noticed yet how the people who are genuinely the happiest about Barry's Big Day are his biggest political foes, and how his greatest political allies seem kinda conflicted about the whole thing.

I wonder if it has also been forgotten how King Barry the Intelligence Analyst spared us from the endless Royal wedding coverage that had been going on. (IQTT!?!) Maybe he really does have a soft spot for the country, after all.

Really, the Bin Ladin thing has been like a reality TV show all week. Every day there's a different, dramatic story, and the best part is that the good guys always come out of it without a scratch, and the evil arch-villian always gets his comeupance in the end. Someday maybe we'll hear the full, real, story, but as long as the ending is the same, I'll be good with it. Til then, I'll be looking forward to the re-makes and sequels.

Posted by: Optimizer at May 07, 2011 02:09 PM (F56VB)

477 Fox just reported that Obama will NOT release audio of last Osama video.

And PAB is looking hawt with all that cleavage right now.

Posted by: Vic at May 07, 2011 02:09 PM (M9Ie6)

478

What is RAI news?

If as in  Priya Rai He doesn't what to play Golf today.

Posted by: Catlady at May 07, 2011 02:09 PM (CyPWX)

479 This rain is ridiculous in ohio.  Farmers can't do jack shit because when it finally does stop raining, its raining the next day.

Posted by: buzzion at May 07, 2011 06:05 PM (oVQFe)

Every time the kids and I get ready to go outside it is raining again.

When we do get an hour or two without rain, the ground is too muddy to play on.

The farms look more like ponds.  Last year at this time corn was already growing strong.  This year, they haven't even plowed it yet.

I feel really bad for the people with smaller farm.  They don't have expensive crop insurance like the big farms do.

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 02:09 PM (penCf)

480

My life is becoming a "two trains leave their stations..." math problem. I'm trying to fit in different types of summer camps/classes for the kids. Some of them are offered multiple times, some are only one week. Swimming lessons are for a two week period. I'm trying to figure out the different ways this will all work out without me having to be in two places at once and it's giving me a headache.

Pretty sure tequila and mint julips are required to figure it out.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 07, 2011 02:10 PM (XdlcF)

481 Can't wait for this race to be over so I can hurry back out and catch a few nekkid rays in the side yard.  On Elm Street.  Through my three-foot-tall picket fence. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 02:10 PM (UOM48)

482

491 WOW: What could this note be?

I'm putting my money on "I have to do a #2."

 

Posted by: Optimizer at May 07, 2011 02:10 PM (F56VB)

483 Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 06:03 PM (penCf)


Ooh, maybe he is putting in his order for gold!

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 02:11 PM (penCf)

484 My wife likes to sunbathe in the nude in our side yard


Go on.

Posted by: google street view at May 07, 2011 02:11 PM (GTbGH)

485 that mother fucker stole my lines.

Posted by: The Frito Bandito at May 07, 2011 02:11 PM (VMcEw)

486

Posted by: Catlady at May 07, 2011 06:09 PM (CyPWX)

I denounce myself, don't look.

Posted by: Catlady at May 07, 2011 02:11 PM (CyPWX)

487 Through my three-foot-tall picket fence. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 06:10 PM (UOM4


That's why you had to go to LOWE'S!

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 02:11 PM (penCf)

488  Pants on Fire's jockey is a ginger!

She's cute.  I wonder if she has trouble finding a guy who can keep up.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 02:13 PM (0vDuM)

489

When we do get an hour or two without rain, the ground is too muddy to play on.

Oh, that is no fun. I've had that here and in Maryland. I hate looking out the windows and seeing puddles on the lawn.

 

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 07, 2011 02:14 PM (XdlcF)

490
is Civil Unrest running?

Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 02:15 PM (WmBF6)

491 OK, what's the result? I know you guys are doing searches on how many cities have both a Lowe's and an Elm St...

Posted by: Optimizer at May 07, 2011 02:15 PM (F56VB)

492

IIRC, Frito Bandito caught a lot a flak about being racist and got banned.

 

Posted by: Catlady at May 07, 2011 02:16 PM (CyPWX)

493 Capturing Osama bin-Laden: priceless. Conservatives nitpicking grammar: pathetic.

Posted by: JEA at May 07, 2011 02:19 PM (nzmLZ)

494 JEA making a coherent point:  Unknown

Posted by: toby928™ at May 07, 2011 02:20 PM (GTbGH)

495

A playboy bunny sticker. So when you take it off you can see how tan you are.


PS:  I used to call it my pleasure cave but hubby thought I meant 'for his pleasure'.  Now it is my please cave because he has to ask very, very nicely (and I want pleased)

Posted by: momma at May 07, 2011 05:59 PM (penCf)

Ah! Got me some larnin' that I didn't expect. Thanks, momma!

Posted by: ErikW at May 07, 2011 02:21 PM (uZPG8)

496
JEA, I have you running in the KY Derby today.

The horse is called STFU Dunce.

Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 02:22 PM (NwOSU)

497 Please.  Someone go yell in the dumpster out back tell ace or a cobblogger that we need a new thread.

Posted by: Soona at May 07, 2011 02:23 PM (O55hK)

498
JEA = Bybil

We never found out why JEA and Paladin share the same hash, did we?


Posted by: Soothsayer, AoS Team 6 at May 07, 2011 02:23 PM (NwOSU)

499 488 What do you think the notes said?

It would make sense if he was carrying a note for somebody, though who knows if it had to do with the raid.

Plus, I wonder if this has happened before.

President Bush and Tony Blair exchanged some notes when certain events occurred during the Iraq War.* He would also exchange notes with other members of his Cabinet, some of which became media fodder.

*Such as this

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 07, 2011 02:24 PM (P+zzG)

500 514 Please.  Someone go yell in the dumpster out back tell ace or a cobblogger that we need a new thread

New thread up, but they're just talkin' about fightin' and shit..

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 02:25 PM (UOM48)

501 Pants on Fire's jockey is a ginger!

She's cute.  I wonder if she has trouble finding a guy who can keep up.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at May 07, 2011 06:13 PM (0vDuM)

Leave the fire pie alone.

 

Posted by: Jackhole at May 07, 2011 02:25 PM (+qHxi)

502

>>My life is becoming a "two trains leave their stations..." math problem. I'm trying to fit in different types of summer camps/classes for the kids. Some of them are offered multiple times, some are only one week. Swimming lessons are for a two week period. I'm trying to figure out the different ways this will all work out without me having to be in two places at once and it's giving me a headache.

Pretty sure tequila and mint julips are required to figure it out.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 07, 2011 06:10 PM (XdlcF)

Car pooling is your friend, as is one of those big desk calendars hanging on your kitchen wall probably. I used to go crazy with setting up summer camps with my three kids, who are a single with twins one year younger, but all had different "wants" for summer camp.

Posted by: Museisluse at May 07, 2011 02:30 PM (a8aqn)

503 New thread up, but they're just talkin' about fightin' and shit..

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 07, 2011 06:25 PM (UOM4

I've never understood why hand to hand combat is cool.

Boxing, wrestling, MMA, all that shit is supposed to be cool but it's half gay and mostly barbaric. That's why we have advanced weapons techniques so the baddies get capped before we get close enough to smell them.

Posted by: ErikW at May 07, 2011 02:33 PM (uZPG8)

Posted by: Foole In The Rain at May 07, 2011 02:54 PM (yPTcS)

505
The pass from O'Dingo to the Officer was a photo of Pippa Middleton's magnificent ass.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at May 07, 2011 03:02 PM (ndqJC)

506

But there is always the chance you might run out of ammo.

Posted by: buzzion at May 07, 2011 06:37 PM (oVQFe)

Good point.

I can't see that happening nowadays but you never know. As the Boy Scout motto goes, "Be Prepared."

Posted by: ErikW at May 07, 2011 03:06 PM (uZPG8)

507 But Bush didn't fly into Sadam's palace on a stealth unicorn and single handedly take him out with lightning bolts from his arse ... isn't that what Obama did to Osama?

Posted by: gm at May 07, 2011 03:31 PM (VhCkG)

508 JEA - you evidently didn't learn what "grammar" is ... must have had a lot of Ayers-trained teachers.

Posted by: gm at May 07, 2011 03:36 PM (VhCkG)

509 … and here I thought “we got Osama”
Now we find out that not only did Obama make the decision to raid Pakistan, but he flew the helicopter, shot everybody in the compound, personally ripped the heart of of bin Laden with his bare hands, carried the dead body of bin Laden in one arm while he first ran then swam to the USS Carl Vinson, and finally personally prepared the body for burial at sea drawing on his boyhood experience in a Muslim country.  And all of this while getting in 9 holes of golf.
Obviously, there are just too damn many folks drawing a paycheck from the federal government who are doing nothing, while Obama is doing it all.  I suggest that we layoff 20% of all federal employees while doubling .. no .. quadrupling the ObamaÂ’s paycheck .. because obviously he is worth it all.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at May 07, 2011 07:10 PM (tvs2p)

510 Thank you for this post.

Posted by: Liz at May 08, 2011 02:21 AM (ChmTC)

511 Well the difference is that Americans don't give two hoots about the capture of Saddam giving that he had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11. Why are we in Iraq again?

Posted by: Mel at May 08, 2011 04:13 AM (a0mPp)

512 Ron Paul 2012

Posted by: Mel at May 08, 2011 04:13 AM (a0mPp)

513 Soothsayer, I have you cleaning up after all the horses.

Posted by: JEA at May 08, 2011 04:24 AM (nzmLZ)

514 Another point of comparison - Saddam Hussein was captured alive. When it comes to UBL, we missed an opportunity - imagine the intelligence that could have been gathered. It is sickening to watch Obama strut. However, once the dust settles, there will be many questions on many levels to answer. Let's hope it all pans out.

Posted by: KBS at May 08, 2011 05:14 AM (JtWqw)

515

Here is the speech that Richard Nixon gave on the night Apollo Eight made the moon landing:

“And so shortly after taking office, I directed Rocco Petrone, Apollo Program Director, to make landing on the Moon the top priority of our space program, even as we continued our broader efforts to explore space with satellites and probes.

Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our aerospace community, I was briefed on a possible launch to the Moon. It was far from certain, and it took many months to study the options. I met repeatedly with my NASA team as we developed more information about the possibility. And finally, last month, I determined that we had enough confidence to take action, and authorized an operation to go to the Moon.

Today, at my direction, the Lunar Module separated from the Command Module, and began itÂ’s descent to the Sea of Tranquility. Then, I gave orders to land the craft to Flight Director, Gene Kranz. A small, three-man team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed.  After a soft landing, they set foot on the surface of the Moon and raised the Stars and Stripes.”

 

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517

Just to so we're all referring to the same speach:

"Good evening. Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world that the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of Al-Qaeda, and a terrorist who's responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women, and children.

"It was nearly 10 years ago that a bright September day was darkened by the worst attack on the American people in our history. The images of 9/11 are seared into our national memory - hijacked planes cutting through a cloudless September sky; the Twin Towers collapsing to the ground; black smoke billowing up from the Pentagon; the wreckage of Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, where the actions of heroic citizens saved even more heartbreak and destruction.

"And yet we know that the worst images are those that were unseen to the world. The empty seat at the dinner table. Children who were forced to grow up without their mother or their father. Parents who would never know the feeling of their child's embrace. Nearly 3,000 citizens taken from us, leaving a gaping hole in our hearts.

"On September 11, 2001, in our time of grief, the American people came together. We offered our neighbors a hand, and we offered the wounded our blood. We reaffirmed our ties to each other, and our love of community and country. On that day, no matter where we came from, what God  we prayed to, or what race or ethnicity we were, we were united as one American family.

"We were also united in our resolve to protect our nation and to bring those who committed this vicious attack to justice. We quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by Al-Qaeda - an organization headed by Osama bin Laden, which had openly declared war on the United States and was committed to killing innocents in our country and around the globe. And so we went to war against Al-Qaeda to protect our citizens, our friends, and our allies.

"Over the last 10 years, thanks to the tireless and heroic work of our military and our counterterrorism professionals, we've made great strides in that effort. We've disrupted terrorist attacks and strengthened our homeland defense. In Afghanistan, we removed the Taliban government, which had given bin Laden and Al-Qaeda safe haven and support. And around the globe, we worked with our friends and allies to capture or kill scores of Al-Qaeda terrorists, including several who were a part of the 9/11 plot.

"Yet Osama bin Laden avoided capture and escaped across the Afghan border into Pakistan. Meanwhile, Al-Qaeda continued to operate from along that border and operate through its affiliates across the world.

"And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against Al-Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.

"Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

"Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.

"For over two decades, bin Laden has been Al-Qaeda's leader and symbol, and has continued to plot attacks against our country and our friends and allies. The death of bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date in our nation's effort to defeat Al-Qaeda.

"Yet his death does not mark the end of our effort. There's no doubt that Al-Qaeda will continue to pursue attacks against us. We must - and we will - remain vigilant at home and abroad.

"As we do, we must also reaffirm that the United States is not - and never will be - at war with Islam. I've made clear, just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader; he was a mass murderer of Muslims. Indeed, Al-Qaeda has slaughtered scores of Muslims in many countries, including our own. So his demise should be welcomed by all who believe in peace and human dignity.

"Over the years, I've repeatedly made clear that we would take action within Pakistan if we knew where bin Laden was. That is what we've done. But it's important to note that our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding. Indeed, bin Laden had declared war against Pakistan as well, and ordered attacks against the Pakistani people.

"Tonight, I called President Zardari, and my team has also spoken with their Pakistani counterparts. They agree that this is a good and historic day for both of our nations. And going forward, it is essential that Pakistan continue to join us in the fight against al Qaeda and its affiliates.

"The American people did not choose this fight. It came to our shores, and started with the senseless slaughter of our citizens. After nearly 10 years of service, struggle, and sacrifice, we know well the costs of war. These efforts weigh on me every time I, as Commander-in-Chief, have to sign a letter to a family that has lost a loved one, or look into the eyes of a service member who's been gravely wounded.

"So Americans understand the costs of war. Yet as a country, we will never tolerate our security being threatened, nor stand idly by when our people have been killed. We will be relentless in defence of our citizens and our friends and allies. We will be true to the values that make us who we are. And on nights like this one, we can say to those families who have lost loved ones to Al-Qaeda's terror: Justice has been done.

"Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who've worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice.

"We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country. And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day.

"Finally, let me say to the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 that we have never forgotten your loss, nor wavered in our commitment to see that we do whatever it takes to prevent another attack on our shores.

"And tonight, let us think back to the sense of unity that prevailed on 9/11. I know that it has, at times, frayed. Yet today's achievement is a testament to the greatness of our country and the determination of the American people.

"The cause of securing our country is not complete. But tonight, we are once again reminded that America can do whatever we set our mind to. That is the story of our history, whether it's the pursuit of prosperity for our people, or the struggle for equality for all our citizens; our commitment to stand up for our values abroad, and our sacrifices to make the world a safer place.

"Let us remember that we can do these things not just because of wealth or power, but because of who we are: one nation, under God , indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

"Thank you. May God  bless you. And may God  bless the United States of America."

 

The word we is used 57 times.

The word our is used 51 times.

American: 10

America: 14

God: 4

“I” is used 7 times

 

And, I believe he did thank a few people

Posted by: Bill at May 24, 2011 05:00 PM (QOadm)

518

While the speech is a good comparison of different stances there really was a difference in the two captures.  The capture of Saddam was just a lucky day in a war that Bush was no longer looking to draw attention to his personal involvment. On the Bin Ladin operation,  the President could claim some credit, because he was personally involved in the operation.

If you want to read some "I, me, and my" all you need to read is Bush's Decision Point.  He gives very little credit to the people who told him what he should do.  It's always I decided.  Never, I was convinced by ...

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Posted by: ÎÞΪÈËÉú at June 07, 2011 02:08 AM (P0U26)

520 Now we know Bush didn't write his speach. Obama kind of went with the flow. He wasn't reading word for word. Besides we had evidence that Bin bombed the towers. We never had evidence the Sudam was involved in 911. We never did find weapons of mass destruction, Bush just wanted Sudam at any expense. Obama is doing a grest.

Posted by: Big B at June 09, 2011 01:26 PM (nNiHC)

521 First off Obama is an egotistical self absorbed person, what doesn't benefit him will never benefit the country. He wants to cut military pay, he has created new jobs like he promised but what he did to create those jobs was to take jobs from other people. He's gone on more vacations, half with his entire staff, then Bush ever did. Bush went to camp david and worked while there or to his home in texas, how many times has obama been to Hawaii in his first 2 years in office alone? He spent how many millions of dollars changing the bowling alley in the white house into a basketball court? Bailed out failing businesses instead of helping the people. I honestly believe if john mccain had been black he would be in office, don't kid yourselves into thinking that it was anything else that pushed him into office. I'm not racist but let's be realistic, the numbers and demography done on this past vote showed areas that had never voted before and the majority of those areas were african american and latino. He has done nothing to help the people and everything to help himself. You can clearly see that in his taking credit for everyone elses hard work for the capture of Osama Bin Laden

Posted by: Leprechaun at June 11, 2011 05:12 PM (nZdIp)

522 And as far as obama cleanin up after bush, we all know or should know that the deficit exsisted long before bush. Saddam may not have been directly responsible for 9/11 but its funny cuz here I see contributing money being just as guilty as contributing weapons. President Clinton had 4 opportunities to rid the world of Osama Bin Laden well before 9/11 but he didn't seize those opportunities, yet no one is bashing him for not helping prevent 9/11 but everyone seems to be bashing bush for taking action after 9/11 when the majority of the american people were calling for blood and justice

Posted by: Leprechaun at June 11, 2011 05:23 PM (nZdIp)

523 He thanked a few people at the end of the speech after taking the credit and stealing the thunder and puting the spotlight on himself first. Its like saying this is all thanks to me I did everything and oh by the way great job you guys who actually did the work and risked your lives sorry I almost left you out thinking about myself

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Posted by: haomai at June 21, 2011 01:35 AM (fOq3O)

525 Just wanted to point out a little context. Obama's full speech was 1390 words. He used the word "I" nine times. That comes out to 0.64% of his speech was that word. Meanwhile GWB's speech was 500 words and he used "I" four times. That comes out to 0.8% of his speech using the word "I". A slightly higher percentage than Obama.

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