November 18, 2011

President Clocking Persistent 9% Unemployment Rate Kills Another 200,000 Jobs
— Ace

From Hot Air -- just kidding, Truman, I know it's in the sidebar; I just wanted to see the vein in your forehead -- the Obama Job Slaughter continues.

President Obama's United States Department of Agriculture has delayed shale gas drilling in Ohio for up to six months by cancelling a mineral lease auction for Wayne National Forest (WNF). The move was taken in deference to environmentalists, on the pretext of studying the effects of hydraulic fracturing.

“Conditions have changed since the 2006 Forest Plan was developed," announced WNF Supervisor Anne Carey on Tuesday. "The technology used in the Utica & Marcellus Shale formations need to be studied to see if potential effects to the surface are significantly different than those identified in the Forest Plan." The study will take up to six months to complete.

Apart from the obvious -- another 200,000 jobs delayed, and probably delayed for longer than six months; plus the general signal to business that Obama will attempt to make every endeavor your attempt extremely costly, so don't even bother -- this reinforces my belief that liberals celebrate the abstract over the concrete.

When you think about jobs liberals like, versus jobs conservatives like, you will generally find the that the more abstract a job is -- and here I mean "abstract" to mean "removed from the physical, the concrete, and the dirty by one or more steps" -- you'll find that they tend to be soft jobs. Media advisor, writer, designer. One of the more concrete jobs they favor is the law, but that itself is far removed from actual production of goods -- law does intersect with business, but far away from the actual production of goods. Where law intersects with business it does so in a paper way -- businesses are referred to in court filings, but of course the businesses are abstracted, as the law just deals with them as legal actors. Not as real companies, with real workers and real management, producing real goods.

This is why liberals with something of a pragmatic streak go into politics. On one hand, politics does intersect with people's lives in tangible ways. On the other hand, what makes politics attractive to this psychological type is that it's a no-dirty-hands occupation. Everything is position papers and talking and media-type stuff.

As I've noted before, this all goes back to the Victorian fiction that a carpenter, who actually did a great deal of mental work, including creativity, in his job, was just a "hand worker" and therefore lower class while a drudge at the Bank of England, who merely did third-grade-level summing of accounts all day, was a "mind worker" and therefore middle class.

The liberal mindset is bewitched by this fiction -- this daft, stupid fiction -- and declares that everyone working in liberal-type fields must be of a different intellectual class than those lowly businessmen who merely manufacture goods that people wish to voluntarily buy.

And ergo, only they can make the proper decisions about whether these mentally-lower-class individuals can ply their dirty working class trades.

You don't have to be a liberal to recognize that any time you take oil or coal or shale out of the ground, it's going to have an adverse impact on the immediate environment. Not so much as the hysterical environmental lobby claims, of course, but some.

But liberals seem to live in a fantasy world in which, ideally, all of us would just be passing around pieces of paper to each other. That is, they seem to believe the world, if they got it all set up properly, would consist of only work in the soft, abstract, "clean" fields liberals prefer (clean, because they tend to be pushing paper back and forth, rather than digging and building and sweating), so, that being the ideal State of Man, there's really no problem trying to hurry that along and penalize those dirty hand-workers who want pump some oil out of the ground.

But because they are, mentally, so removed from the concrete, they are free to believe in magic. The magic in this immediate case is the magic of electricity. They seem to want a steady power supply for their MacBooks and their editing software and their Media Centers with Bose speakers, but they don't really want to think much about how that vital spark actually makes it into their homes' copper wires.

In their own minds, they've neatly cleaved the real, vital, vigorous, and dirty from their own existences, which they have endeavored to make as abstract, sedentary, and "clean" (except for those trees) as possible, so they just don't see the connection between energy production and their own energy consumption.

The electricity is magic. It will always be there, as it has always been there before, right? So, no problem killing every industry that actually tries to make some electricity.

Solar power is the perfect Magic Beans Solution for this problem with reality. It's technically not magic; it actually exists. Sort of. So it's the perfect Pretend Energy Source. Just pretend that it's an efficient source of energy, just pretend it doesn't cost far more than any other source, just pretend there's not a whole lot of environmental impact caused by the production of all those exotic chemicals required to produce the cells -- just pretend enough, and you've got your Magic Power Source, where your iPad works but not a puff of smoke rises into the air.

There's a real childish mentality here. Kids like burgers, but they will get very emotionally upset when they see a cow being butchered. I can't blame them. They're kids. And I think even I'd be shaken to see a cow pulled up by its hind legs and electrocuted, or killed by a hammer-blow to skull.

And yet, I know that my burger relies on just this process. There are no magic burgers. If I want to eat a burger -- and I do -- I have to accept that there are going to be some cows killed and butchers.

The liberal mentality has a very powerful capacity to deny reality, to escape uncomfortable facts like this through a combination of training -- they teach themselves to pretend -- and a lack of a real, hard intersection with the real, hard world.

It causes all sorts of problems. Currently we have one of them in the White House.


Posted by: Ace at 08:48 AM | Comments (229)
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1 More Frakking scare tactics!

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at November 18, 2011 08:50 AM (4Lpf3)

2 Obama is a Rambling Random-Copulator of a Deplorable Loser.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 18, 2011 08:50 AM (2YIVk)

3 "The liberal mentality has a very powerful capacity to deny reality, " And when the cost of electricity and gasoline go up, it is the low income people that the liberals pretend to care about that will be hardest hit. Solution: more gubmint handouts.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 18, 2011 08:52 AM (VW1e8)

4 There's a real childish mentality here. Kids like burgers, but they will get very emotionally upset when they see a cow being butchered. I can't blame them. They're kids. And I think even I'd be shaken to see a cow pulled up by its hind legs and electrocuted, or killed by a hammer-blow to skull.

Some of the best meat I ever had was my first deer (but I didn't hunt until my 20's).

Killed it, cleaned it, cooked it.

Some of the best fish I had recently was still flopping as I filleted it. My kids watched me do this and raved at how good it was.

Posted by: Scott J at November 18, 2011 08:52 AM (KC2BE)

5 If you just went vegan like we've been telling you, then you wouldn't have to support any oil drilling.  Problem solved!

Posted by: Truman North (putting thumb on temple to tamp down the vein) at November 18, 2011 08:53 AM (I2LwF)

6 The liberal mentality is very costly for real.

Ask Buffett, Jobs, Gates, Ellison, the Google guys, Soros, Allen, Bezos, and those other fantasy world abstract thinkers.

Posted by: Buck Hayek at November 18, 2011 08:53 AM (z0HdK)

7 And since I have your attn, I put a post in draft last night for your edits.  Please take a look.  It's moderately timely, as in, it won't be any good past tomorrow latest.

Posted by: Truman North (putting thumb on temple to tamp down the vein) at November 18, 2011 08:54 AM (I2LwF)

8 There comes a time when you've made enough money.

Posted by: Teh SCOAMF at November 18, 2011 08:54 AM (tQHzJ)

9 WWPD

What Would Putin Do

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 18, 2011 08:55 AM (OhYCU)

10 Focused like a laser!  Or at least like 25 watt bulb.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 18, 2011 08:55 AM (TVvXc)

11 And I think even I'd be shaken salivating to see a cow pulled up by its hind legs and electrocuted, or killed by a hammer-blow to skull.

I Fixy

Posted by: Bob Saget at November 18, 2011 08:55 AM (SDkq3)

12 >>>Ask Buffett, Jobs, Gates, Ellison, the Google guys, Soros, Allen, Bezos, and those other fantasy world abstract thinkers. They're all in the fields I described as abstract. In what way does this undermine my point? You seem to have invented a premise that I never wrote or intended -- that these fields SHOULD NOT EXIST!!11! That's stupid. I named "writer" as among the liberal fields. I am a writer. Obviously I like the profession, having sought it out. Obviously I respect it. That doesn't mean I think the world should be run by writers.

Posted by: ace at November 18, 2011 08:56 AM (nj1bB)

13 Obama can make me happen!

Posted by: Magic Burger at November 18, 2011 08:56 AM (rJVPU)

14 There comes a time when you've made enough jobs.

Posted by: EC at November 18, 2011 08:57 AM (GQ8sn)

15 You just have to believe!

Posted by: Magic Burger at November 18, 2011 08:57 AM (rJVPU)

16 And my real point is that people must not cleave hard, tangible reality out of their thinking.

Posted by: ace at November 18, 2011 08:57 AM (nj1bB)

17
You'd Think the stupid House Republicans would use their power to bargain for passage of their jobs bills stuck in Reid's do-nothing Senate.

But no, they passed a big bloated Continuing Resolution that 90% of the House Democrats voted for.

Posted by: soothie at November 18, 2011 08:57 AM (sqkOB)

18 Focused like a laser! Or at least like 25 watt bulb. Posted by: WalrusRex at November 18, 2011 12:55 PM (TVvXc) ================================ Or an EZ Bake Oven light ball.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at November 18, 2011 08:57 AM (jucos)

19 How does this hurt Herman Cain?

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 18, 2011 08:58 AM (OhYCU)

20 What are you talking about?  I know where electricity comes from.  It comes out of the wall through the socket.  There are sockets in every room in my house and office.  We obviously have enough so there's no need to go impacting the environment.  Think of the children!!

Posted by: Typical Lib at November 18, 2011 08:58 AM (bj+Nc)

21 This was one of your greatest posts ever Ace.

Posted by: Big T Party at November 18, 2011 08:58 AM (hC5jI)

22 Magic Burger! Magic Burger! We want the Magic Burger!

Posted by: OWS Protesters at November 18, 2011 08:58 AM (rJVPU)

23 Ace @17. Exactly.

It's kind of like stressing about getting old. Not a thing you can do to stop it.

Posted by: Scott J at November 18, 2011 08:58 AM (KC2BE)

24
Truman, the phrase you're looking for is "time sensitive."

Glad to help.

Posted by: soothie at November 18, 2011 08:58 AM (sqkOB)

25 Where law intersects with business it does so in a paper way -- businesses are referred to in court filings, but of course the businesses are abstracted, as the law just deals with them as legal actors. Not as real companies, with real workers and real management, producing real goods.

Law intersects with business in the way that a tapeworm intersects with a digestion system.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 18, 2011 08:59 AM (T0NGe)

26 19 How does this hurt Herman Cain?
Herm's doing enough self-inflicted damage. He needs no help.

Posted by: Barbarian at November 18, 2011 08:59 AM (EL+OC)

27 I see what you're doing there, ace. So much delicious primary infight material out there today and you take the gingrichian high road....

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at November 18, 2011 08:59 AM (/TSnh)

28 Karl Denninger has made some great posts along these lines.

He doesn't want to live downwind from a nuke plant but realizes it's something that must be dealt with if we're to have energy.

Too bad he doesn't have such common sense about OWS.

Posted by: Scott J at November 18, 2011 09:00 AM (KC2BE)

29 Ask Buffett, Jobs, Gates, Ellison, the Google guys, Soros, Allen, Bezos, and those other fantasy world abstract thinkers.

None of them do jack shit without energy, you fucking retard.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 18, 2011 09:00 AM (SPC42)

30 Hey guys, I promised change, not jobs. And funployment is a whole lot of change...right?

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 18, 2011 09:00 AM (7BU4a)

31 >>>This was one of your greatest posts ever Ace. Thank you, but nah, this is just the One Big Idea I've been re-writing about since 2005. Although it's repetitive (this is the tenth time noodling around in this basic area), hey, I think there's something to this. And I don't have a lot of big insights. So this one gets a bit ridden to death.

Posted by: ace at November 18, 2011 09:00 AM (nj1bB)

32
The liberal mentality is very costly for real.
Ask Buffett, Jobs, Gates, Ellison, the Google guys, Soros

Dunce, are you for real?

All those people listed above talk the liberal talk, but they are ruthless businessmen.

Posted by: soothie at November 18, 2011 09:00 AM (sqkOB)

33 There comes a time when you've made enough money.

And enjoyed electric lighting and indoor plumbing enough.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 18, 2011 09:01 AM (TVvXc)

34 time-sensititve, check.  dammit, that's what I meant.

Posted by: Truman North (putting thumb on temple to tamp down the vein) at November 18, 2011 09:01 AM (I2LwF)

35 We're working on a national child care program to help, just like we did with health care!

Posted by: Princess Nancy at November 18, 2011 09:01 AM (fYOZx)

36 Just so long as Obama's capitalist cronies like GE, GM, bankrupt Solyndra, Berkshire Hathaway, Jon Corzine Inc., etc - get away with NOT paying taxes. Just so long as taxes are jacked up for the rest of us so we can pay for Obama's corrupt and wasteful ecnomics. Just so long - it's all OK. We are screwd, thanks to our caring teleprompter king. That's all that matters. Do it for teh king and his cronies. Obey.

Posted by: juji fruit at November 18, 2011 09:01 AM (O7ksG)

37 Ace, sorry to go off topic but you need to read Ann Barnhardt's letter to her clients, it's here.

And you need to look at the video of Gerald Celente, it's here.

Posted by: sky at November 18, 2011 09:01 AM (oZfic)

38 ace, a guy with one Big Insight who can communicate it well can move mountains.  Your ten Big Ideas make you a smart blogger.

Posted by: Truman North (putting thumb on temple to tamp down the vein) at November 18, 2011 09:02 AM (I2LwF)

39

That's what mypost is bout Sky! lol

Posted by: Truman North (putting thumb on temple to tamp down the vein) at November 18, 2011 09:02 AM (I2LwF)

40
Posted by: Buck Hayek

You fucking clown, you.

Soros' "liberal mentality" is horseshit. He's a megalomaniac who uses the Left to manipulate governments.

Posted by: soothie at November 18, 2011 09:02 AM (sqkOB)

41

I still think there is a better explanation.  Liberals do love and still romanticize blue-collar workers - otherwise why the UAW bailouts at General Motors?  But they despise fossil fuels even more.  It is dogma with them - Mother Earth is ruined when fossil fuels are extracted and again when they are burned, either to produce electricity or as gasoline in cars.  They believe use of fossil fuels is a crime against Earth.  Their fantasy Utopia is a world where there are lots of blue-collar, union-dues-paying workers, but they are making electric cars or solar panels or wind turbines, and most of us are either driving electric cars or riding in electric trains.  And all of that electricity will be produced by wind and solar power.

These assholes thought they had it made when Obama was elected and they had 60 votes in the Senate.  They were going to pass Cap and Trade to cap all carbon emissions while making their liberal friends like Al Gore rich in the trading of carbon credits.  This would then increase prices for fossil-fuel-produced electricity so much that private utilities would be forced to invest their own dollars in wind and solar and biofuels, and would increase gasoline prices so much that people would demand electric cars.

They did not count on Cap and Trade being defeated, nor did they count on the massive development of the Marcellus shale which has caused natural gas prices to plummet.  This is why they have clamored to stop the fracking and oppose the keystone pipeline.  They do not care about those jobs being lost; to liberals they are bad jobs because they help sustain a viable market for fossil fuels. 

Posted by: rockmom at November 18, 2011 09:02 AM (NYnoe)

42

 If I want to eat a burger -- and I do --

 

we've been through this...invite her over for coffee and offer her pancakes.

 

 

 

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2011 09:02 AM (pXSf+)

43 I got the Magic Pizza... I am the Magic Republican black vote getter!

Posted by: Herman Cain at November 18, 2011 09:02 AM (rJVPU)

44 Under my plan, energy prices would necessarily skyrocket!

Posted by: Barry Obama at November 18, 2011 09:03 AM (fecOD)

45 It is not exactly a new narrative, but you can't really belabor the point. Progressives are child-like in their beliefs.  Emotion trumps logic every time.  

Posted by: Alamo at November 18, 2011 09:03 AM (m/tN9)

46 And yet, I know that my burger relies on just this process. There are no magic burgers. If I want to eat a burger -- and I do -- I have to accept that there are going to be some cows killed and butchers.

I'm always amazed by the common liberal displeasure with eating meat. For a group of people that claim to be purely naturalistic, is there anything more natural then one animal eating another?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 18, 2011 09:03 AM (7BU4a)

47 Thank you, but nah, this is just the One Big Idea I've been re-writing about since 2005.

Don't sell yourself short.  This is the entire basis of modern technocratic liberalism, and it's almost never explained this clearly.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 18, 2011 09:03 AM (tqwMN)

48 Republicans would be wise to point out that GE pays no tax ,even after making billions in profit, thanks to loopholes. There's a loophole Obama won't close; because GE in part of the Democrat corruption machine.

Posted by: juji fruit at November 18, 2011 09:03 AM (O7ksG)

49 ...Oh, and along with that childish demeanor they are HUGE pussies....

Posted by: Alamo at November 18, 2011 09:03 AM (m/tN9)

50 This is win-win for Obama.  If he can keep unemployment high and energy prices high, the Media will blame the Republicans for their "partisan refusal to act on Obama's jobs bill" and he'll be re-elected by the ninnies who believe what their Television tells them. 

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 18, 2011 09:04 AM (i0App)

51
another example: Progressive Insurance Co

This muthafucka is a big Obama supporter. But he ain't running his insurance company like a commune. You dope, you.

Posted by: soothie at November 18, 2011 09:04 AM (sqkOB)

52 10 Focused like a laser!  Or at least like 25 watt bulb.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 18, 2011 12:55 PM (TVvXc)

 

He's focused like one of those pen lasers that you entertain your cat with by zooming it all over the room.

Posted by: Princess Nancy at November 18, 2011 09:04 AM (fYOZx)

53 It's even worse, Ace.  To them, even "mind work" is magic.

How do you get science?
(1) Pay scientists
(2) ???
(3) Science!

You're so right about the magic thinking.  It's the city-dweller who thinks his arugula grew right there in the Whole Foods.

Remember that time when Palin was interviewed in front of a slaughterhouse?

Posted by: AmishDude at November 18, 2011 09:05 AM (T0NGe)

54 this is the tenth time noodling around Magic Noodles! Magic Noodles for Everyone!!!1!

Posted by: OWS Protesters at November 18, 2011 09:05 AM (rJVPU)

55 Are those jobs delayed and saved?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 18, 2011 09:05 AM (1Jaio)

56
Show me ONE successful private enterprise or entrepreneur based on the progressive business model.


Posted by: soothie at November 18, 2011 09:05 AM (sqkOB)

57 Posted by: Herman Cain at November 18, 2011 01:02 PM (rJVPU)

Ace, could you push the Magic Button and nuke the troll?

Posted by: kbdabear at November 18, 2011 09:06 AM (Y+DPZ)

58 There comes a time when you've made enough money.

And enjoyed electric lighting and indoor plumbing enough.

The endgame of liberalism is feudalism.  The elites get electricity and running water and medicine, everyone else is an organic farmer.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 18, 2011 09:06 AM (tqwMN)

59 This is what happens when you let flower children run the show

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 18, 2011 09:06 AM (i6RpT)

60 51

I despise Flo with a red hot passion.  I want to go all medieval on her and burn that bitch at the stake.

Posted by: mpfs, I'll Save a Horse & Ride Rick Perry at November 18, 2011 09:06 AM (iYbLN)

61
.... piss of you wingers.  Those 200,000 jobs can EASILY be transferred over to caulking and shrink plastic'ing  inner city windows. 

Posted by: Barack Obama at November 18, 2011 09:06 AM (C8hzL)

62 Stan Lee explained why almost every comic book issue recounts the hero's origin story. "Every comic," he said, "is *someone's* first comic." Anyway, I used to feel stupid about writing the same crap over and over. However, every day of blogging is the first day on the site for someone.

Posted by: ace at November 18, 2011 09:06 AM (nj1bB)

63 33 There comes a time when you've made enough money.

And enjoyed electric lighting and indoor plumbing enough.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 18, 2011 01:01 PM (TVvXc)

Even "money" is abstract.  I don't think they have an idea of the value of money.  If energy costs go through the roof, your dollar doesn't buy nearly as much, but you have lots of dollars.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 18, 2011 09:06 AM (T0NGe)

64 Sorry.

Posted by: tasker at November 18, 2011 09:06 AM (rJVPU)

65 Currently we have one of them in the White House.

ace, I'll have to disagree with you.  The magic beans crowd are idiots.  Obama is no idiot.  He is a full-on Marxist.

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 18, 2011 09:07 AM (OhYCU)

66 >>>Ask Buffett, Jobs, Gates, Ellison, the Google guys, Soros, Allen, Bezos, and those other fantasy world abstract thinkers. Bunch of hypocritical fuckers who want to lock the door for everybody else now that they inhabit the master suite.

Posted by: 1/1027th of a Janitor at November 18, 2011 09:07 AM (tazG1)

67 I want to give Flo the donky punch.

Posted by: Truman North (putting thumb on temple to tamp down the vein) at November 18, 2011 09:07 AM (I2LwF)

68 20 What are you talking about?  I know where electricity comes from.  It comes out of the wall through the socket.  There are sockets in every room in my house and office.  We obviously have enough so there's no need to go impacting the environment.  Think of the children!!

I wish they would do something about the leakage, though.  I have to stuff rags in the little holes to keep all the lectrons from falling out and getting in my carpets.

Posted by: peplib at November 18, 2011 09:07 AM (YXmuI)

69 It's kind of like stressing about getting old. Not a thing you can do to stop it.

Posted by: Scott J at November 18, 2011 12:58 PM (KC2BE)

 

Actually there is one way to stop it but it's got a certain...finality to it.

Posted by: Dr Kevorkian at November 18, 2011 09:07 AM (fYOZx)

70 It's berry, berry nice when the MSM covers for your anti-American ass.  You're free to destroy at will and never be held to account.  President Pants Crease has carte blanche to our destruction.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Still Voting for Perry (I like his hair best.) at November 18, 2011 09:07 AM (ycuSb)

71 58 There comes a time when you've made enough money.

And enjoyed electric lighting and indoor plumbing enough.

Well I for one and really tired of being able to flush human waste down this thing called a toilet.  Give me a two-holer every time.

Posted by: mpfs, I'll Save a Horse & Ride Rick Perry at November 18, 2011 09:07 AM (iYbLN)

72 >>>You're so right about the magic thinking. It's the city-dweller who thinks his arugula grew right there in the Whole Foods. Right. And gets attitude about, say, farmers creating too much dust (!!!!!) while working the earth. Because in their jobs -- pushing buttons on a computer -- they don't *directly* create any dust. Ergo, no one should.

Posted by: ace at November 18, 2011 09:07 AM (nj1bB)

73 It has nothing to do with cleanliness. The main difference between paper-pushing and manufacturing, is that the abstract former is ripe for corruption.

In manufacturing, you actually have to produce something. Exchanges are grounded in the scientific realities of chemistry and physics.

In lib world, you get rich by kissing ass and trading favors. It's a game where whoever has the power makes and remakes and remakes the rules at will.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at November 18, 2011 09:08 AM (QILo6)

74 However.... My Herman Cain comment-sometimes one side is just the flip side of the other.

Posted by: tasker at November 18, 2011 09:08 AM (rJVPU)

75 another example: Progressive Insurance Co

This muthafucka is a big Obama supporter. But he ain't running his insurance company like a commune. You dope, you.
Posted by: soothie at November 18, 2011 01:04 PM

Flo isn't prepared for Mayhem ... like me

Posted by: Allstate Mayhem Guy at November 18, 2011 09:08 AM (Y+DPZ)

76 The endgame of liberalism is feudalism.  The elites get electricity and running water and medicine, everyone else is an organic farmer.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 18, 2011 01:06 PM (tqwMN)

Yes, I've noticed that they aren't very progressive, really.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 18, 2011 09:08 AM (T0NGe)

77  @ 6 The liberal mentality is very costly for real.

Ask Buffett, Jobs, Gates, Ellison, the Google guys, Soros, Allen, Bezos, and those other fantasy world abstract thinkers.

yep just like Ace said, pretend. Here we have a lib pretending Ace made up a premise that was never the point. This is however much easier for the lib to debate and argue over because the lib has no clue how to actually understand the REAL point that was made, again reality eludes the lib.

Fucking Moron, way to miss the point and go on imagining how you think things are instead of addressing what the really are.

Posted by: Fire with Fire at November 18, 2011 09:09 AM (lcwvr)

78

ace, I'll have to disagree with you.  The magic beans crowd are idiots.  Obama is no idiot.  He is a full-on Marxist.

 

Actually, people who have gone on the record after speaking with him about green energy say he believes we will be able to totally eliminate fossil fuels within five years.

So he's both an idiot and a-- not a Marxist, but a pan-Leninist.  Marx believed in an organic proletariat revolution, whereas Lenin believed you needed an organized elite to lead one.

Posted by: Truman North (putting thumb on temple to tamp down the vein) at November 18, 2011 09:09 AM (I2LwF)

79

You don't have to be a liberal to recognize that any time you take oil or coal or shale out of the ground, it's going to have an adverse impact on the immediate environment. Not so much as the hysterical environmental lobby claims, of course, but some.

I've got more than 40 wells within a mile of my house.  If you didn't know what to look for, you wouldn't even know they were there.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 18, 2011 09:09 AM (ZDP2l)

80 And I think even I'd be shaken to see a cow pulled up by its hind legs and electrocuted, or killed by a hammer-blow to skull.

My very first "real" job was in 1967 at Iowa Beef Packers (Dakota City, Nebraska), before they unionized.

I can only imagine your horror at the kidney fights we used to have on the kill floor.

Posted by: jwb7605 at November 18, 2011 09:09 AM (Qxe/p)

81

Well I for one and really tired of being able to flush human waste down this thing called a toilet.  Give me a two-holer every time.

 

Pipe the Shit right outta your house!

Posted by: Roman Street Vendor at November 18, 2011 09:09 AM (pXSf+)

82 Ace, you know what people do with "one big idea"?  They write a book.

You should write a book.  Or maybe one of those Encounter Books "broadsides".  God knows you have enough examples over the past few years in blog posts.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 18, 2011 09:10 AM (T0NGe)

83 That SCOAMF is going to need a good fracking next November. Where do we stand in line?

Posted by: Roy at November 18, 2011 09:10 AM (bm4vI)

84
Capitalism & commerce built the park upon which socialists build their tent-cities.




Posted by: soothie at November 18, 2011 09:10 AM (sqkOB)

85 This is win-win for Obama.  If he can keep unemployment high and energy prices high, the Media will blame the Republicans for their "partisan refusal to act on Obama's jobs bill" and he'll be re-elected by the ninnies who believe what their Television tells them. 

Really? I'm thinking this is the stuff excellent TV ads are made of.

Sample voiceover:
"The SCoaMF pretends that it is Republicans stopping the creation of jobs. But the jug-eared shithead shut down the Keystone XL pipeline, which would have resulted in 20,000 high-paying jobs, and injected $8 billion into the economy. The preening jackass then delayed drilling for shale gas in Ohio, costing another 200,000 jobs. If that Marxist dipshit wants to look at the causes of the 9% unemployment the country's plateaued at, he should look no further than the nearest mirror."

Maybe clean it up a little  for the kids.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 18, 2011 09:10 AM (SPC42)

86 18-1 at November 18, 2011 01:03 PM

More direct evidence of the progressive-child mentality, and the concomitant complete lack of logical thought.  Lib Vegans (all libs are not vegans, but all vegans are libs) decry the consumption of meat and utilizing leather or fur for clothing.  These are all completely 100% natural products, and yet these are the same people who clamor for a more "natural" world.  They will screech about how easily you can replace fur with synthetic substitutes that are manufactured from......petroleum based fibers!  They are children.  Retarded children.

Posted by: Alamo at November 18, 2011 09:11 AM (m/tN9)

87 As I've noted before, this all goes back to the Victorian fiction that a carpenter, who actually did a great deal of mental work, including creativity, in his job, was just a "hand worker" and therefore lower class while a drudge at the Bank of England, who merely did third-grade-level summing of accounts all day, was a "mind worker" and therefore middle class. ***** And, actually this is at the root of why the Liberals have nothing but "sympathy" for the military. Plus some Herman Cain supporter with the persuasive ability of a yak told me here that Herman Cain did the "smart" work at DOD while they were unimpressed with Perry's service. Blow that smoke out your own portholes...

Posted by: tasker at November 18, 2011 09:11 AM (rJVPU)

88 In manufacturing, you actually have to produce something. Exchanges are grounded in the scientific realities of chemistry and physics.

Hence the ongoing effort by the left to "un-solidify" the sciences and claim that e.g. physics lacks the insights of women and minorities.  (It may, but everything those white guys discovered actually works).

Posted by: Ian S. at November 18, 2011 09:12 AM (tqwMN)

89 Magical Thinking- it's just not for South American novelists!

Posted by: shibumi at November 18, 2011 09:13 AM (z63Tr)

90 You don't have to be a liberal to recognize that any time you take oil or coal or shale out of the ground, it's going to have an adverse impact on the immediate environment. Not so much as the hysterical environmental lobby claims, of course, but some.


The adverse impact is when it's 20 fucking degrees below zero and you have no fucking heat because of the bleeding heart liberals.

Posted by: mpfs, I'll Save a Horse & Ride Rick Perry at November 18, 2011 09:13 AM (iYbLN)

91 We don't have anything because no one will speak up with any gusto. We really are in mob rule, the land of chant.

Posted by: The Greys at November 18, 2011 09:13 AM (NRygI)

92

That SCOAMF is going to need a good fracking next November. Where do we stand in line?

 

The line starts behind me.

Posted by: Reggie Love at November 18, 2011 09:13 AM (pXSf+)

93 Posted by: Waterhouse at November 18, 2011 01:10 PM (SPC42)

Yeah, OH, PA, MI may love their unions, but they know what makes a job and what sends it overseas.  This kind of thing does not play well in the midwest.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 18, 2011 09:13 AM (T0NGe)

94 >> I know it's in the sidebar ...

To do that you'd have had to read the blog.

Who is this imposter, and what has he done with Ace?

Posted by: Andy at November 18, 2011 09:14 AM (5Rurq)

95 You must believe that Obama is either:

1. An idiot, with no executive experience, that is destroying the country by accident.

2. A confirmed Marxist, intent on destroying our capitalist system, in hopes of completing the Socialist revolution. (see Alinsky)

Since Obama taught Alinsky as a "constitutional lawyer", and he was a community organizer for Acorn, and he aligned with Marxist professors and student radicals, I'm going with #2.

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 18, 2011 09:14 AM (OhYCU)

96 Cain-Gingrich, '12.  We create jobs by hiring divorce and employment lawyers!

Posted by: Totally Irrational Political Malcontent at November 18, 2011 09:14 AM (f8XyF)

97 In lib world, you get rich by kissing ass and trading favors. It's a game where whoever has the power makes and remakes and remakes the rules at will.

I don't remember who I saw say it first, but liberalism is Calvinball.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 18, 2011 09:14 AM (tqwMN)

98 >>>I can only imagine your horror at the kidney fights we used to have on the kill floor. Well in any profession like that, people get inured to the ugly stuff and it eventually becomes grist for black humor. That black humor always seems shocking to people outside the profession. And I guess it is shocking. Or is if you're not in that field, seeing that stuff every day. There's a joke that doctors have -- you're not a real doctor until you've killed your first patient. A bit of black humor about the fact that doctors screw up and people die. Nature of things. It's shocking to hear a doctor say that, but when you think about his life -- seeing death day in, day out, some of them he could have prevented, but, being human and fallible, did not -- you understand completely why that happens. So yeah I'd probably be grossed out by the kidney fights but upon reflection I'd realize that if I were working in a slaughterhouse I'd eventually be wearing a cow's hear as a necklace and stuff.

Posted by: ace at November 18, 2011 09:14 AM (nj1bB)

99 You know, I am starting to wonder if this isn't actual malice on the SCOAMF's part. Usually incompetence swings a bit wildly and occasionally gets something right. Here we have a fairly consistent record of doing everything wrong to promote job creation. To keep assuming incomptitance as the root cuase is starting to challenge the odds.

Posted by: Fire with Fire at November 18, 2011 09:15 AM (lcwvr)

Posted by: inyourheadZOMBIE at November 18, 2011 09:15 AM (f/ryA)

101 The magic beans crowd are idiots.  Obama is no idiot.  He is a full-on Marxist.

I don't see a conflict-can't he (mustn't he) be both?

Posted by: pep at November 18, 2011 09:16 AM (YXmuI)

102 Liberals can get plenty of scientists to tell you that there is no correlation between energy production and a waste product.

You conservatives are uneducated/ill-informed/irresponsible because you haven't been sufficiently "educated" enough to understand that the laws of physics have been repealed, because they say so.

Posted by: KirkCameronLeftMeBehind at November 18, 2011 09:16 AM (iZ6fL)

103 Hey Ace, is okay with you if we describe pulling up Dianne Sawyer by her hind legs and electrocuting, or giving her a hammer-blow to skull? I could tolerate MSM much better if I knew this is what happens to them when they get too old to shake their money maker to the suits. Just askin.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at November 18, 2011 09:16 AM (0M3AQ)

104
No one likes to imagine morticians playing around with your dearly departed loved ones -- but it happens.

Posted by: soothie at November 18, 2011 09:16 AM (sqkOB)

105 You know, I am starting to wonder if this isn't actual malice on the SCOAMF's part

"I think we can say that the Constitution reflected an enormous blind spot in this culture that carries
on until this day, and that the framers had that same blind spot.
[Â…The Constitution] reflected the fundamental flaw of this country that continues to this day." --SCOAMF, 2004

Stop wondering.

Posted by: Scott J at November 18, 2011 09:17 AM (KC2BE)

106 I still think there is a better explanation.  Liberals do love and still romanticize blue-collar workers - otherwise why the UAW bailouts at General Motors?  Posted by: rockmom

For some lefties, sure. However, for others it's not that they are blue collar workers. The important thing is that they are unionized and willing to agitate on behalf of socialism.

Blue collar workers are only as valuable as they are politicized.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 18, 2011 09:17 AM (HZbzj)

107 I can only imagine your horror at the kidney fights we used to have on the kill floor.

Any cow puppetry? In my sick and twisted mind, I envision y'all chopping off a head and makin' it talk.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at November 18, 2011 09:17 AM (bjRNS)

108 If we don't get rid of this Marxist bastard in 2012 we are in deep shit.

Posted by: nevergiveup at November 18, 2011 09:17 AM (i6RpT)

109

Posted by: ace at November 18, 2011 01:14 PM (nj1bB)

 

This is why there's always a good dose of humor on every jobsite that can kill you. 

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2011 09:18 AM (pXSf+)

110

on the pretext pretense of studying the effects of hydraulic fracturing

TFIFY

Posted by: chuck in st paul at November 18, 2011 09:18 AM (EhYdw)

111 I do read the sidebar stuff. But I don't have something to say about most stories. I often just post a link and a quote -- just grist for commenters to offer up something to say, I having failed to come up with anything -- but a lot of times I just view it as "It's in the sidebar, people have read it, they are informed." It depends on whether or not I really need to fill a hole (because I have nothing to write about) or if something is so big it needs to have a post so that people can comment on it. Some stuff is hard to comment on. Like stuff where we all agree. If I post something about Obama being stupid and corrupt, look, all of the comments are going to be similar (including mine). I don't really know. I don't have a real system going here.

Posted by: ace at November 18, 2011 09:18 AM (nj1bB)

112

A couple of points.

1) Much of this line of liberal thinking also can slide very, very easily into anti-Semitism. Historically in Europe, when Jews owned various means of production and were responsible for stuff getting made and put up for sale (i.e., engaging in commerce), they were reviled for their base pragmatism, for what surely must be their innate lack of ability to live for loftier purposes. 

See Jerry Muller's incredible book "The Mind and the Market" (a history of modern Europe's thinking about capitalist development) for detailed exposition.

2) Disturbingly enough, a flip-side version of this thinking, prevalent on both the arch-conservative (in the old European sense) and leftist sides of the political divide *also* targeted the Jews (in Europe) for excoriation.  The flip-side being the view that financial-market speculation (a form of paper-passing, if you will) had absolutely no place in a virtuous society whose economy was defined strictly as the physical production of tangible goods.  Those excoriating the Jews (both "paleo"-rightists and leftists) had no concept of the pricing mechanism in economics nor of how speculation actually serves as a handmaiden of price-signalling.  Instead, conveniently (so to speak), the speculators frequently were the already-long-maligned Jews, so economic parasitism could be added to the rap-sheet.  Marx took this charge to a whole new level of viciousness, and you know the rest -- most recently thanks to Marx's heirs in Zuccotti and their, ahem, conversations with hard-working religious Jews.

Again, see Jerry Muller's tome "The Mind and the Market" for the story.

And no I'm not on commission!...

 

Posted by: RamonAllones at November 18, 2011 09:18 AM (ha+6S)

113 The SCOAMF is fully aware of the need for oil, and the need for those big campaign bucks. He's planning on eliminating the need for domestic production

To the Brazilian President on oil production;

"We plan on being your biggest customer"

Who owns more than 50 percent of Brazilian oil company Petrobas?

George $oros

Posted by: kbdabear at November 18, 2011 09:18 AM (Y+DPZ)

114 Related: Actors. Some of the worst offenders in the category of deluding one's self with delusions of intellectual superiority. Adam Baldwin is a good example. Mark Ruffalo, whom I WILL drive to thumb-sucking depression via Twitter, is another. And now, Anne Hathaway. You may remember how bitterly, bitterly disappointed we were to find that the interview in which she extolled the virtues of Teh Butt Secks was debunked. Many of us were, quite literally, de-bunked. Now this ignorant scrunt is marching with the OWS Occutards holding signs reading "Blackboards, not Bullets." What?! $58 million net worth, and this bitch is the 99%, right? Just who CAN you safely fap to these days? There's Candace Kita, I suppose, but who's in the mood for Japanese every day? Troubling.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 18, 2011 09:18 AM (0yt4x)

115 IMHO, this is the best post I have ever read. Clear. Concise. To the point. Point on. My 11-year old daughter will read this to me TWICE later this evening. Double post worthy!

Posted by: Cicerokid at November 18, 2011 09:19 AM (m0MfE)

116 Remember, President Downgrade is laser focused on jobs.

He just forgot to specify "destroying" in that statement.

Posted by: shibumi at November 18, 2011 09:19 AM (z63Tr)

117 96 You must believe that Obama is either:

1. An idiot, with no executive experience, that is destroying the country by accident.

2. A confirmed Marxist, intent on destroying our capitalist system, in hopes of completing the Socialist revolution. (see Alinsky)

Since Obama taught Alinsky as a "constitutional lawyer", and he was a community organizer for Acorn, and he aligned with Marxist professors and student radicals, I'm going with #2.

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 18, 2011 01:14 PM (OhYCU)

I argue this with my husband daily. He thinks he's a bummbler, I think he's a marxist.

Posted by: dagny at November 18, 2011 09:19 AM (LVDiz)

118 Maybe GM can make cars out of recycled paper? I'm sure you could get an cool half a billion from the Government to take this idea to production. Anyone want in on my plan?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at November 18, 2011 09:19 AM (0M3AQ)

119 OT: Ace, you've got mail about big Gunwalker stuff.

Posted by: Scott J at November 18, 2011 09:20 AM (KC2BE)

120

It depends on whether or not I really need to fill a hole

 

brb, gotta hit the showers.

 

Posted by: Jerry Sandusky at November 18, 2011 09:20 AM (pXSf+)

121
Red meat is like our lifeblood, though.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 18, 2011 09:20 AM (sqkOB)

122 What I don't understand is whether a porn star is a hand worker or a mind worker.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 18, 2011 09:20 AM (TVvXc)

123
It keeps us focused.

Posted by: soothsayer at November 18, 2011 09:20 AM (sqkOB)

124 I argue this with my husband daily. He thinks he's a bummbler, I think he's a marxist.

He could be both.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at November 18, 2011 09:21 AM (bjRNS)

125 "They believe use of fossil fuels is a crime against Earth.  Their fantasy Utopia is a world where there are lots of blue-collar, union-dues-paying workers, but they are making electric cars or solar panels or wind turbines, and most of us are either driving electric cars or riding in electric trains.  And all of that electricity will be produced by wind and solar power." The funny thing about that is that even if those magic solutions were technologically sound right now, we'd still have to burn fossil fuels to make them. And their own policies make it harder and more expensive to do so.

Posted by: Mandy P. refuses to watch the SCOAMF at November 18, 2011 09:21 AM (qFpRI)

126 ...I'd eventually be wearing a cow's hear as a necklace and stuff.

It would be a nice change from the hobo scrotum pendant.....

Posted by: Alamo at November 18, 2011 09:21 AM (m/tN9)

127 I hear you on the burger ace. Just stay away from the bun.

Oh, but on topic. This is what drives the prius phenomenon.  The batteries are full of horribly toxic chemicals mined in awful conditions in China. The whole process destroys the environment and the lives of the Chinese serfs.

And on top of all that the economics just isn't there. The batteries are worthless in ten years, the cost of the cars far outstrips the mph gain (despite the subsidy), and they just end up driving more since the gas money goes a little longer in the short term.

Sure, they could by one of the super efficient European diesel cars, save the destruction caused by the battery production, save money on the MPG, and get more horsepower to boot.

They could, but diesel engines are dirty.

Posted by: runninrebel at November 18, 2011 09:21 AM (i3PJU)

128 Also the radical environmentalists want to crush capitalism and send us all back to feudal levels of technology, the better to set themselves up as lords and ladies. But, yeah, as far as garden variety leftists, ace nailed it.

Posted by: joncelli, reluctant Perry supporter at November 18, 2011 09:21 AM (RD7QR)

129 another 200,000 jobs delayed You're welcome! Another 200,000 jobs created, you just can't fill them yet, thanks to Bush' environmental policies.

Posted by: barry potus at November 18, 2011 09:21 AM (FcR7P)

130 Actors. Some of the worst offenders in the category of deluding one's self with delusions of intellectual superiority. Adam Baldwin is a good example.

Surely you mean Alec Baldwin (no relation to Adam)?

Posted by: Ian S. at November 18, 2011 09:22 AM (tqwMN)

131

Troubling.

 

Have you seen that show 'Webster'?

Hot.

Posted by: Jerry Sandusky at November 18, 2011 09:22 AM (pXSf+)

132 @ 125 What I don't understand is whether a porn star is a hand worker or a mind worker. WalrusRex

For 5 dollars she is a hand worker, for 50 two hands, for 500 it's all about fetishes and the mind

Posted by: Fire with Fire at November 18, 2011 09:22 AM (lcwvr)

133 If you want to capture leftist childlike thinking of Magic Scales of Economy, the OWS movement has displayed it for us in a 2 month capsule

Remember the retard who said we could produce everything we needed by digging it out of the ground ourselves in the woods?

Posted by: kbdabear at November 18, 2011 09:22 AM (Y+DPZ)

134 So yeah I'd probably be grossed out by the kidney fights but upon reflection I'd realize that if I were working in a slaughterhouse I'd eventually be wearing a cow's hear as a necklace and stuff.

Soon after I left home my parents bought a farmette and started raising chickens. My younger brother tells stories: chore he was assigned: taking care of poultry; chore he volunteered for: chicken killing.

Posted by: Retread at November 18, 2011 09:23 AM (XOMQv)

135 Anne Hathaway.

She's getting to that age where she isn't going to get work the way she used to -- looking cute.  She's got to do the age-old Hollywood trick of appealing to producers by taking on radical left-wing politics.

How do you think Rosie O'Donnell got her own show again?  If I'm producing a talk show, I don't say, "Rosie O'Donnell!  She'll bring in the viewers!"  She keeps herself in the news by spouting off and so she's on the minds of producers and casting agents.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 18, 2011 09:23 AM (T0NGe)

136 When you think about jobs liberals like Government regulator, inspector, administrator, bureaucrat. Management thereof and assistants thereto.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2011 09:23 AM (FcR7P)

137 Obama taught Alinsky.

One of Obama's early mentors in the Alinsky method, Mike Kruglik, would later say the following about Obama:

    "He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation,

For several years, Obama himself taught workshops on the Alinsky method. Also, beginning in the mid-1980s, Obama worked with ACORN, the Alinskyite grassroots political organization that grew out of George Wiley's National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO). 

Alinsky:
"organizers must be entirely unpredictable and unmistakably willing -- for the sake of the moral principles in whose name they claim to act -- to watch society descend into utter chaos and anarchy"

OWS? "One way in which organizers and their disciples can broadcast their preparedness for this possibility is by staging loud, defiant, massive protest rallies expressing deep rage and discontent over one particular injustice or another. Such demonstrations can give onlookers the impression that a mass movement is preparing to shift into high gear, and that its present (already formidable) size is but a fraction of what it eventually will become."


Posted by: Cherry pi at November 18, 2011 09:23 AM (OhYCU)

138 I keep throwing stories like this into my lib brother's face. He's in the local electricians union but has been laid off since July. He insists on drinking the Obama Kool-Aid to the end. Which is maddening.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 18, 2011 09:23 AM (YmPwQ)

139 There are no magic burgers. If I want to eat a burger -- and I do -- I have to accept that there are going to be some cows killed and butchers.

Everyone should kill, clean, and eat something, at least once.  Preferably a mammal.

Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at November 18, 2011 09:24 AM (GTbGH)

140 For some lefties, sure. However, for others it's not that they are blue collar workers. The important thing is that they are unionized and willing to agitate on behalf of socialism.

Blue collar workers are only as valuable as they are politicized.
Posted by: weft cut-loop
.............
Exactly.. it is not so much the individual worker, as it is the idea borne out of the 1930's union movements.. the socialist struggle.. and those struggles were real back then.

But what happens when you've achieved your goals of 40 hr works weeks and 8 hour work days? 

The libtard dopes cannot understand unions have lost their usefullness - to workers, that is.. but they are still mighty useful as political tools of the Democrats.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 18, 2011 09:25 AM (f9c2L)

141 The deal with the rich Hollywood types is that they made a lot of money very young by...looking good.

Wouldn't you feel guilty if you were filthy rich for no other reason than you were born pretty and you didn't do anything consequential other than look pretty?

And, of course, they think every other rich person got there the same way.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 18, 2011 09:25 AM (T0NGe)

142 Much of this line of liberal thinking also can slide very, very easily into anti-Semitism.

Jews can't win.  Half hate them because they are such commies and half hate them because they are such capitalists.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 18, 2011 09:25 AM (TVvXc)

143


Everyone should kill, clean, and eat something, at least once.  Preferably a mammal.

 

This.  It teaches you a lot about life.

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2011 09:25 AM (pXSf+)

144 Maybe clean it up a little  for the kids.

Posted by: Waterhouse at November 18, 2011 01:10 PM (SPC42)

Looks exactly like one of those "ED" ads. I would go with it.

Electile Dysfunction.

Posted by: Cicerokid at November 18, 2011 09:26 AM (m0MfE)

145
Government regulator, inspector, administrator, bureaucrat. Management thereof and assistants thereto.....

Camp Tower Marksman,  Cell Block Supervisor, Liquidation Verification Technician, Re-Education Curriculum Development Director....


Posted by: fixerupper at November 18, 2011 09:26 AM (C8hzL)

146 Flo isn't prepared for Mayhem ... like me

I'd would take out a second mortgage to fund a parody commercial featuring those two actors.  I'd have Mayhem show up at Flo's Matrix-like blankworld and start wrecking the shit out of the place.  Then have her blow him while he winks into the camera like he always does at the end of the commerical.

"You're good!"
*winks*

Posted by: EC at November 18, 2011 09:27 AM (GQ8sn)

147 151
Government regulator, inspector, administrator, bureaucrat. Management thereof and assistants thereto.....

Camp Tower Marksman,  Cell Block Supervisor, Liquidation Verification Technician, Re-Education Curriculum Development Director....

You forgot Oven Capo. Just sayin.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at November 18, 2011 09:27 AM (0M3AQ)

148 Ian S. You're right. I meant Alec Baldwin. Adam is actually a very sharp guy. And the only thing I want to put in Hathaway's squeakhole these days is my boot.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 18, 2011 09:28 AM (0yt4x)

149

I don't understand why we can't agree it's both. It's both. Dumb and Commie. Pepper in delusional with cognitive dissonance and we have the perfect storm. We've really done it this time.

Posted by: Papa Editor at November 18, 2011 01:23 PM (Zs83Q)

All commies are dumb.  They believe in communism, which is by definition dumb.

Posted by: buzzion at November 18, 2011 09:28 AM (GULKT)

150 Solar power is the perfect Magic Beans Solution What do you get from solar power used correctly and efficiently? Grass, topsoil, trees, birds, insects, small animals, and tasty, tasty beef.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2011 09:28 AM (FcR7P)

151 He could be both.

He can't be both.  It's either intentional, or it's not.

He went to Harvard, so it's hard to argue that he's stupid.  Sarah Palin is stupid, right?

His background screams Marxist.

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 18, 2011 09:28 AM (OhYCU)

152 Nice riff Ace.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at November 18, 2011 09:28 AM (kTTUz)

153 So yeah I'd probably be grossed out by the kidney fights but upon reflection I'd realize that if I were working in a slaughterhouse I'd eventually be wearing a cow's hear as a necklace and stuff.

So true.  I've worked in healthcare for the last 20 years and it is a suvival technique for getting through some tough days.

Posted by: Cheri at November 18, 2011 09:28 AM (G+Wff)

154 Bravo, Ace, on a true piece of insight. There was a scene in the HBO John Adams series that I deeply appreciated. It showed Adams, Franklin, and Jefferson all admiring a rolling chair Jefferson had created. This reinforced a motif throughout: that the Founding Fathers all were not only men of great abstract ability, but they all had their hands thrust into the manure (actual scene where Adams did).

Posted by: MaxMBJ at November 18, 2011 09:28 AM (deaac)

155 Actors. Some of the worst offenders in the category of deluding one's self with delusions of intellectual superiority. Adam Baldwin is a good example.

EoJ, do you mean Alec Baldwin?

Posted by: EC at November 18, 2011 09:28 AM (GQ8sn)

156 I do not watch or listen to "news". Do any of them mention the price of gas, sitting at 3-4 dollars a gallon? Or the price of food, which is now re-packaged to dwarf-sized and the costs have gone out the window? I'm guessing "No". Because what is more important to the American people than what celebrity couple broke up or what they wear?

Posted by: The Greys at November 18, 2011 09:29 AM (NRygI)

157
Someone call me?

Posted by: Alice Baldwin at November 18, 2011 09:29 AM (sqkOB)

158 When you think about jobs liberals like, versus jobs conservatives like, you will generally find the that the more abstract a job is -- and here I mean "abstract" to mean "removed from the physical, the concrete, and the dirty by one or more steps" -- you'll find that they tend to be soft jobs.

Which is why the OWS crowd can't seem to find their dream jobs. To them it's more dignified to pour coffee in a Starbucks than to drive the truck that brings the coffee

There always seem to be employers looking for machinists and mechanics, but the OWS brats and their helicopter parents can't fathom that there seems to be an oversupply of environmental analyst or art history professors


Posted by: kbdabear at November 18, 2011 09:30 AM (Y+DPZ)

159

Posted by: AmishDude at November 18, 2011 01:25 PM (T0NGe)

Good point.  They got where they are by also reading scripts that other people have written.  Since the Hollyweird people figure that's essentially how everybody procures their wealth (either that or via inheritance), it isn't really that big of a deal to obtain more wealth.

This misconception wouldn't be so big a deal if these idiots weren't given such a public microphone and even invited to speak to Congress about such things.  What fool in their right mind would believe that the likes of Sissy Spacek and Co would know more about farming (for example) than an actual farmer who works the fields 70+ hours a week? 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 18, 2011 09:30 AM (9hSKh)

160
Incisors and mandibles.  Many animals have them.  Use them to eat and everything.

Now opposable thumbs, thats the key to evolution.  Oh, and building things.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 18, 2011 09:30 AM (JYheX)

161 MOAR FAIR

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama 2 x 4 at November 18, 2011 09:30 AM (pXSf+)

162 Wouldn't you feel guilty if you were filthy rich for no other reason than you were born pretty and you didn't do anything consequential other than look pretty?

And, of course, they think every other rich person got there the same way.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 18, 2011 01:25 PM (T0NGe)

Same goes for those with inherited wealth - they may not be pretty, but they sure feel guilty.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 18, 2011 09:30 AM (ZDP2l)

163

BTW, here is a list of reasons to love Obama complied by Rabbi Dov Fischer. Can anyone think of extra reasons:

1. Obamacare — Attempting to federalize local state rights, extending federal control over massive components of the national bourse, extending federal control over individuals’ lives in violation of the Constitution’s Commerce Clause. Cynically lining up supporters in white doctors’ robes, while refusing to consult with much more prominent and predominant medical groups who oppose. Lying about the program’s cost and tax burden by subterfuging it with exorbitant taxes that begin several years into its anticipated roll-out. Robbing $500 billion from Medicare that will destroy access for seniors, while lying about the Ryan proposal that would not affect people over 55.

2. The catastrophic $850 billion stimulus. $700,000 to develop a robot that tells jokes. $3.4 million for an underground tunnel for turtles to cross the road in Florida. $1 million to help smokers kick the habit by giving them Blackberry “smartphones.” $2.6 million for Chinese prostitutes in China to drink responsibly. Lying to Americans by claiming the money was going to “shovel-ready jobs” — and then joking about the falsehood. Lying by hiding the amounts transferred to favored liberal projects unrelated to job growth or economic stimulation.

3. Chronically high, persistent unemployment — His own staff said that he would bring it under 8% ; yet it remains over 9% thirty months into his one term, with real unemployment actually exceeding 15% as huge numbers of unemployed Americans withdraw from searching hopelessly for jobs. Lying about a Summer of Recovery (2010).

4. Gas prices — Now exceeding $4.50 a gallon in California, while he bars exploration in ANWR, restricts licenses to explore along the Atlantic coast or in the Gulf, but exports American dollars to help Brazil explore for oil in the Gulf even as Obama promises that America then will buy that oil from Brazil. (See also #82.)

5. Failure to pass a budget. The abject failure by the Chief Executive to get any kind of budget adopted for 2010.

6. Multi-trillion debt free-fall. Turning the disastrous Bush deficits into a multi-trillion-dollar economic free-fall, now leaving the nation with a debt exceeding $14.3 trillion . . . and pressing for authorization to increase the free-fall. His own latest mad deficit proposal was demolished in a House vote 97-318, as his own Democrats abandoned him in droves.

7. The seizure of GM and Chrysler. The illegal transfer of bondholder wealth to unions, imposing his views on parts of the American auto industry, artificially trying to jump-start his favored companies with “Cash for Clunkers,” only to find that American tax dollars were used instead by people buying preferred Japanese cars to acquire them cheaper while being forced to destroy throughly sound used cars.

8. Dodd-Frank.

9. Unremitting hostility to Israel. Destroying the Mideast process by imposing unilateral burdens on Israel, forcing Israel to cease construction of Jewish homes, even in Jerusalem, thus compelling Abbas to harden several positions, all while publicly snubbing Prime Minister Netanyahu in the basement of the White House (the first visit) and trying to snub him on the second visit with a horrible policy speech as Netanyahu was flying en route to America.

10. Failure to support IranÂ’s Green Revolution. A complete silence and abandonment of leadership when Iranians risked their lives for freedom, while backing the Moslem Brotherhood uprising in Egypt.

11. Failure to support the Syrian peopleÂ’s revolution against Assad. Utter failure to lead until it was impossible to overlook the massacres by a dictator who actively finances and supports Iran and Hezbollah, AmericaÂ’s sworn enemies in Iraq and South Lebanon.

12. The Libyan Fiasco. Entering Libya while failing to consult Congress. No sense of whether we are supporting people just as bad as Qaddafi. Remaining in the war more than 90 days without obtaining Congressional approval. Lying about violating the War Powers Act by claiming there are no “hostilities” in Libya.

13. The Gulf oil disaster. Bumbling in handling the Gulf oil disaster — refusing aid from countries with oil-cleaning vessels, failing to accept offers of boom to corral the spill, bringing in underwater filmmaker James Cameron as an expert.

14. Closing down oil exploration. The unnecessary moritorium on permitting oil exploration in the aftermath of the Gulf oil disaster, contributing to a massive explosion of oil prices, even leading a federal court to overturn him.

15. EPA interference. The shutdown of ShellÂ’s Arctic oil exploration by EPA

16. Cap-and-Trade Fiasco. The push in Congress for a disastrous “cap-and-trade” plan that would stymie the coal, electric, and natural gas industries, while enormously raising Americans’ home fuel prices, leading even his own party’s U.S. Senator from West Virginia to film a TV promise to voters that he will shoot the proposal full of holes.

17. Use of federal agencies to bypass Congressional oversight. The attempt, after Congress refused to adopt his cap-and-trade nonsense, to bypass Congressional opposition and impose cap-and-trade undemocratically via the EPA.

18. Use of FCC initially to restrict free speech. The push for unconstitutional restrictions on free speech on his political enemies on Talk Radio while assuring protections for unions to spend money on campaigns via The Disclose Act.

19. The Disclose Act and cherry-picking. The attempt to unconstitutionally impose The Disclose Act on his political opponents but not unions via Executive Order.

20. Czars to bypass Congressional oversight. The use of unaccountable “czars” who effectively run huge segments of the American Government without being accountable to Congress and who are protected from Congressional subpoena power.

21. Boorish shaming of Supreme Court justices. The embarrassing and arrogant verbal assault on the Supreme Court while Court Justices courteously attended the first State of the Union address, sitting in front of him, leading most to boycott the subsequent State of Union addresses.

22. Boorish attempt to shame Paul Ryan. The similarly embarrassing and arrogant verbal assault on Rep. Paul Ryan when addressing the federal budget, with Ryan having been invited personally by Obama to attend the speech and sit in front of him.

23. Boorish attempt to shame John McCain. The insulting, embarrassing, and arrogant gloating at John McCain during the televised sham negotiation over Obamacare, when he responded to McCain not substantively but by saying that Obama had won and McCain had lost the election — so there!

24. Refusal to prosecute Black Panthers for Voter Intimidation. ObamaÂ’s and Attorney-General Eric HolderÂ’s politicization of the Department of Justice, including refusing to prosecute the Black Panther voter-intimidation case in Philadelphia.

25. Marriage Act. ObamaÂ’s and HolderÂ’s refusal to defend the Federal Defense of Marriage Act, an act of Congress.

26. Lies, Lies, Lies. The regular use of straw-man demonizations to try winning support for his unpopular legislation, like accusing doctors of performing unnecessary surgery so that they can enrich themselves by imposing misery on their patients.

27. Throwing his grandmother under the bus. Using his grandmother as a foil to win points, calling her a racist like “typical white people.”

28. Bowing to the Saudi King and the Japanese emperor. Literally.

29. Treating our British alliance contemptuously. Shamefully returning to Great Britain the bust of Winston Churchill that they had given us and that had reposed in the White House, while insulting the Queen and the Prime Minister with inane gifts like DVDs. The subsequent fiasco while toasting the Queen, continuing to talk during the playing of the British National Anthem.

30. Violating and abrogating long-standing promises to our allies. Removing the missile shield from Poland and the Czech Republic to placate Putin.

31. Standing with the aspiring Honduran dictator. Backing the would-be dictator of Honduras when that nationÂ’s duly convoked Supreme Court had removed him from office in careful compliance with law.

32. FTAs with allies. Failure to push for quick ratification of free trade agreements with Columbia, Panama and South Korea.

33. Amateurish handling of Afghanistan military effort. The painfully over-extended indecision, for months, whether to authorize a military surge into Afghanistan, then exacerbating the indecision by announcing to our enemies a date-certain withdrawal timeline — a time coordinated with his reelection bid.

34. Incoherence on how to handle the anti-Mubarak uprising in Egypt. Dispatching Frank Wizner as his emissary, then rejecting WiznerÂ’s advice.

35. Radicalizing the NLRB outside Congressional purview. Appointing [Harold] Craig Becker, a radical unionist, to the NLRB through a recess appointment that otherwise never would have passed Congress.

36. Radicalizing FCC outside Congressional purview. Appointing FCC commissioners who are pursuing “net neutrality” without Congressional authorization.

37. Ecology gone wild in California. Wiping out much of the agricultural economy of CaliforniaÂ’s Central Valley by restricting full water deliveries to protect a small Delta Smelt fish

38. Gitmo debacles. Promising to close the Guantanamo Bay facility that interns terrorists, trying to close it, failing to close it, refusing to concede his error or assure that “Gitmo” will remain open.

39. Civil trials for terrorists debacles. Promising to move terrorist trials to civilian courts, then trying to prosecute Khalid Sheik Mohammed in Downtown New York, only to be opposed even by the two ultra-liberal Democrat U.S. Senators of New York, then pressing to try another terrorist, Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, in civilian court, resulting in the terrorist being acquitted on 284 of 285 counts.

40. Napolitano out of touch. The shameful failure of Obama’s Homeland Security chief, Janet Napolitano, to appreciate the Obama Administration’s security failures in the face of the near-catastrophe of the “underwear bomber” in the skies over Detroit, as she insisted “the system worked.”

41. Student loans. Government takeover of the student loan program

42. Border security. Cancellation of the “virtual border fence” project with no replacement, while deploying National Guard troops to do paper work at desk jobs and provide office assistance rather than stand armed along the border.

43. The “Beer Summit.” In the aftermath of wrongly castigating and erroneously pre-judging fault regarding the Cambridge Police Department, tying up the country with a foolish spectacle on the White House lawn.

44. Immigration and Arizona. The Department of JusticeÂ’s attack on Arizona for that stateÂ’s exercise of its sovereign legislative authority on the issue of citizen identification rules. Failure of his own federal government to execute the law on immigration.

45. The attack on Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker. Attacking the Wisconsin governor and his state legislature for exercising their sovereign legislative authority on public employment issues, while Obama failed to acknowledge that the new Wisconsin rules are comparable to those that always have applied to federal employees.

46. Lying to McCain on their deal over campaign fundraising. Violating his pledge to John McCain to abide by McCain-Feingold limits for funding his Presidential campaign.

47. Downplaying American exceptionalism. Apology tours.

48. Implying that the Minnesota bridge collapse was the result of lack of infrastructure funding

49. Chicago Olympics fiasco. Shamefully inserting himself into a botched campaign to bring Olympic Games to Chicago, thereby exposing the Presidency of the United States to ridicule and formal rejection, and demonstrating early-on his overconfident sense of himself and his unpreparedness for the seriousness of his office.

50. Hypocritical attack on D.C. public school voucher effort. The attack on a voucher program for Washington, D.C. schools, even as his own children are protected from the educational failures that curse the Washington populace.

51. Associating with the murky. Associations with convicted unrepentant domestic terrorists and eccentric haters of America: the Reverend Wright, William Ayres, Van Jones.

52. Anita Dunn. Her war against Fox News and her boastfulness that the Obama White House has the “courage to speak truth to Power” — when it is the White House, not a cable TV station, that is “Power”; and her speech to schoolchildren, as a White House representative, sharing with the young and impressionable her idolization and admiration of mass-murderer Mao Tse-Tung.

53. ACORN.

54. SEIU. Having Andrew Stern, President of SEIU, as the man who has visited the White House more than any other person during the Obama term.

55. Teleprompters / White House for Dummies. A reliance on teleprompters to protect him from stumbling and bumbling speeches when, without scripting, he has spoken of his visits to America’s “57 states,” has denigrated the handicapped, could not pronounce “corpsman,” moronically said that Austrians speak “Austrian,” referred to deceased war heroes adding that many were in the audience he was addressing, and has made more gaffes than Dan Quayle.

56. Arrogance and Haughtiness. An extreme level of personal nose-in-the-air arrogance and lack of graciousness, from physical comportment to the way he addresses others. The Roman columns. The arrogant temerity to tell Americans, God-like, that history will record his coronation as the moment that the rivers stopped rising and the planet healed.

57. Chicago Corruption. The house he corruptly acquired through Tony Rezko.

58. The artificial shifting dialects. Affecting an artificial accent when speaking to unions, and to others with whom he allies in his “class wars,” that belies his having grown up in Hawaii, reared by a Caucasian grandmother, his having spent years being schooled in Indonesia, and later attending school at Occidental College in California, Columbia University, and Harvard Law School.

59. Lack of transparency. Refusing to share his academic records or the sources through which he paid for private college and law school, despite his pre-election calls for transparency.
60. Failure to lead on immigration. Not confronting the immigration issue when he dominantly controlled both the House and a filibuster-proof Senate, then mocking the GOP on immigration, saying they would not be happy with “alligators and moats” — when all they want is secure borders.
61. Fiscal irresponsibility on foreign relations with Egypt. Forgiving billions of dollars in Egyptian and related Mideast debt when we are past the 14.3 trillion debt line.

62. Wasting billions on corrupt “Palestine” agencies. Pumping billions more into the discredited United Nations Relief & Works Agency (UNRWA) and the Palestinian Authority that merged with the terrorist Hamas.
63. Radical judicial appointments. Nominating a radical leftist, Professor Goodwin Liu, for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit despite LiuÂ’s contempt for constitutional imperatives towards limited government.

64. Acceding to political bribery by cherry-picking waivers to Obamacare for favored donors. Forcing Obamacare down the throats of small businesses across America that cannot afford it . . . then approving politically correct and electoral pay-off waivers for his friends, donors, and rich boutique businesses. Granting 20% of all the countryÂ’s Obamacare waivers in PelosiÂ’s San Francisco district. Buying off votes from Ben Nelson of Nebraska (the Cornhusker Deal), Mary Landrieu (the Louisiana Purchase) to pass Obamacare.

65. Using the White House to crush political opposition. Trying to force donors to his political opponents to reveal their contributions. Using the White House official website asking supporters to report to the Government instances of people criticizing Government policies.

66. Attempting to crush media opposition. Punishing a Boston newspaper whose editorial attacked him, having his White House conduct a war against Fox News, claiming they are an entertainment, not a news organization, and then boycotting Fox until that strategy backfired.

67. Encouraging cultural decline. Inviting “Common,” a “poet” with disgusting lyrics of hate, to entertain at the White House

68. The Louis XVI Factor. Vacations and high-profile golf during the Gulf oil crisis, prompting even Democrat strategist and Presidential advisor James Carville to erupt in fury. More high-profile golf at Cape Cod while the country was losing its AAA credit rating for the first time.

69. The Marie Antoinette Factor. Michelle high-profile huge trips abroad, a la Eva Peron, with family friends and their children partying on the public payroll, at 5-star hotels in places like Spain.

70. Al Sharpton. Launching his national presidential reelection campaign with a speech to Al SharptonÂ’s base.

71. Secrecy in Legislation. Failing to honor his pledge to conduct transparent governance, crafting Obamacare with Democrats behind closed doors barred to Republicans, leaving Obamacare as a massive document so convoluted that Nancy Pelosi had to tell the media: “But we have to pass the bill so that you can find out what is in it.”

72. A philosophy of redistributing other people’s money. Trying to persuade “Joe the Plumber” that it is a beneficial national economic goal to “redistribute the wealth.”

73. Cynically blaming Republicans and Talk Radio for the shooting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. Blaming their rhetoric, while failing to address Democrat use of vile and violent language to describe Republicans and the Tea Party.

74. Lying about a family connection to the Holocaust. Lying and falsely telling Americans that his grandfather was among those who liberated Auschwitz when, in fact, no American troops liberated Auschwitz.

75. Failing to grasp the Israel narrative. Describing IsraelÂ’s right to exist as premised on the Holocaust, thus missing the entire point of a Jewish country built on the land where Jews have lived since Biblical times.

76. Lying about a family connection to the Civil Rights movement. Telling Americans that his birth happened because his parents became amorous as a result of the 1965 Selma Civil Rights March — even though he was born in 1961.

77. Collapse of the housing market. American housing prices lowest since 2002.

78. Manipulating legislation by forcing votes on massive documents. Racing massive thousand-page legislation packages through Congress without allowing Congress or the American People time to read, comprehend, and absorb the bill — and thus breaking a major campaign promise.

79. The Credit Rating downgrade. Presiding over the first credit-rating downgrade in American history.

80. Timing military campaigns to coincide with election campaigns. Manipulating and sacrificing the lives of American soldiers, basing a withdrawal from Afghanistan not on strategic national security considerations but timed instead to coincide with the start of the 2012 Democrat Presidential Convention.

81. NLRB. Stacking the National Labor Relations Board with left-focused political hacks who are attempting to prevent AmericaÂ’s leading exporter, Boeing, from building a $1 billion manufacturing plant in South Carolina because that state permits employment of non-union labor.

82. Cynically manipulating the national Strategic Oil Reserve. Releasing 30 million barrels of oil from the United States Strategic Petroleum Reserve in order to obtain the temporary political goal of lowering gasoline prices that have skyrocketed in the face of his severe restrictions on permitting exploration in the Gulf of Mexico, along the Atlantic coast, and in Alaska in his obsessive pursuit of “green jobs.”

83. “Operation Fast and Furious” debacle. Allowing Mexican drug lords to access illegal firearms, then losing track of the firearms while the drug cartels used the illegal firearms for crime including murdering Americans.

84. Lying, lying, and more lying to voters. Trying to create class warfare by telling people that RepublicansÂ’ refusal to raise taxes will cause youngsters to be unable to finance their college educations, while causing seniors to lose health care and social security payments. Failing to admit honestly that Congress extended the Bush tax cuts and refused to increase taxes even when Democrats had a filibuster-proof Senate and veto-proof control of both Congressional chambers.

85. Investigating CIA patriots. The Holder investigation into CIA operativesÂ’ interrogations of suspected Al Qaeda terrorists and their use of methods that had been approved in advance by the Justice Department.

Here are some my additions:

86. the Solyndra scandal.

87. Noncompliance by Eric Holder and the White House for information relating to various investigations.

88. Requesting help from an anti-American terrorist group, PakistanÂ’s ISI to negotiate with the Al-Qaeda supporting Haqqani network.

89. Bankrolling failed green manufacturing schemes in Finland and Spain, to the tune of hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars.

90. having an Islamist Turkish government, that openly engaged in a terrorist attack on Israel, join an anti-terrorism task force.

91. Moving the decision for the Keystone XL pipeline until after the elections, even though there have been numerous studies proving its safety, and costing thousands of US jobs.

92. Delaying shale gas drilling in Wayne National forest over fracking concerns even though are already known to be fallacious.

Posted by: Bob from Virginia at November 18, 2011 09:30 AM (SBjsJ)

164

157 Speaking of work, any update to this?

279 263 My wife just threatened me with sex tonight. Posted by: Truman North at November 18, 2011 12:07 PM (I2LwF)



What were you hoping for? A plat-by-play?  All I can say is, it will be the most unpleasant 45 seconds of my day.

Posted by: Truman North (putting thumb on temple to tamp down the vein) at November 18, 2011 09:31 AM (I2LwF)

165 He went to Harvard, so it's hard to argue that he's stupid.

I know people who graduated from Harvard. They make me look like a freakin' genius.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at November 18, 2011 09:31 AM (bjRNS)

166 Thank you, but nah, this is just the One Big Idea I've been re-writing about since 2005.

We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men.

Posted by: the other George Orwell at November 18, 2011 09:31 AM (GTbGH)

167 Wouldn't you feel guilty if you were filthy rich for no other reason than you were born pretty and you didn't do anything consequential other than look pretty?

Not really. Maybe it's just my 43 years talking but if I were a multimillionaire I would fade off into the sunset and spend lots of time fishing, traveling and with my wife & kids.

Posted by: Scott J at November 18, 2011 09:32 AM (KC2BE)

168

He went to Harvard, so it's hard to argue that he's stupid.

 

Matt Damon!

Posted by: Matt Damon at November 18, 2011 09:32 AM (pXSf+)

169 My parents grew up in the 1930s and they were damn poor.  Some of the houses they lived in had electricity but most did not.  Some had wooden floors and some had dirt floors.  None had running water except for maybe a pump in the kitchen, which had a wood or coal or coal oil stove to cook on and supply all the heat to the house, even on days when it was 100 degrees outside.  Air conditioning was only in movie theaters, sometimes.  They had to use an outhouse, situated well away from the house, as a toilet during the day and chamber pots at night, which they then emptied and washed every morning with water they had carried to the house and heated on the stove.  Let these people who want to live a green life live like my parents did when they were growing up.  I don't think they will like it very much.  I don't think they are capable of getting through a week without their Ipads.

Posted by: huerfano at November 18, 2011 09:33 AM (fecOD)

170 0bama is an intentional Stuttering Clusterf*ck of a Miserable Failure.

Posted by: observer at November 18, 2011 09:33 AM (BAmQu)

171

Posted by: Bob from Virginia at November 18, 2011 01:30 PM (SBjsJ)

Have you considered writing movie reviews?

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 18, 2011 09:33 AM (ZDP2l)

172 All I can say is, it will be the most unpleasant 45 seconds of my day.

Buy her a vibrator?

Posted by: EC at November 18, 2011 09:34 AM (GQ8sn)

173 "Ask Buffett, Jobs, Gates, Ellison, the Google guys, Soros, Allen, Bezos, and those other fantasy world abstract thinkers." They're human beings, and as such, just as capable offantasy, self delusion, or hypocrisy as anyone else. Buffett as an example, if he really did feel badly about the fact that he pays a lower tax rate than his secretary, all he has to do is figure out his yearly income, and pay a 35% tax to the IRS. Same with the liberal millionaires demanding higher taxes, all they have to do is put their money where their mouths are and pay, not just the top rate of 35%, but whatever they consider appropriate. 50% sounds good. Yes, they're living in a self-congratulatory fantasy world where they can pretend to be unselfish, while continuing to manipulate the tax code to their advantage. It's the liberal claptrap about it being really important to SAY all the right things.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 18, 2011 09:34 AM (VW1e8)

174
The market: We would like to create 200,000 energy jobs.

Obama:  We won't let you.  Oh and you're lazy.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 18, 2011 09:34 AM (JYheX)

175 Wall Street Journal reporting Newt and Willard in dead heat in NH. Jeebus, I do believe we have found our nominee. Now lets all support him and encourage him to embarass the press repeatedly.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at November 18, 2011 09:34 AM (0M3AQ)

176
That's a helluva list, Bob.

It's all right there.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 18, 2011 09:34 AM (sqkOB)

177

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 18, 2011 01:33 PM (ZDP2l)

 

Weapons Grade, that snark.

Posted by: garrett at November 18, 2011 09:34 AM (pXSf+)

178 0bama is an intentional Stuttering Clusterf*ck of a Miserable Failure.

iSCOAMF

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 18, 2011 09:35 AM (OhYCU)

179

The electricity is magic. It will always be there, as it has always been there before, right? So, no problem killing every industry that actually tries to make some electricity.

This describes a moderate liberal. More extreme liberals are willing to deprive others of electricity, as long as their access is maintained more or less.

Posted by: Max Power at November 18, 2011 09:35 AM (q177U)

180

Wisdom. .....This is what is missing in the Liberal mindset.

They keep trying to 'redefine' it, keep trying to replace simple wisdom with their 'enlightened view'.......and keep failing.

Liberals want to turn this country into a big Bedroom City, like the ones that spring up around large metro areas.....where people can live removed from the dirt and grime of industrialization and commerce.

But they ignore the fact that those bedroom cities can only survive because of the industrialization and commerce that is going on in the cities that they are near.

And yes......the JEF is a marxist who is doing it to us on purpose.

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at November 18, 2011 09:36 AM (H/0mM)

181 "The libtard dopes cannot understand unions have lost their usefullness - to workers, that is.. but they are still mighty useful as political tools of the Democrats." My mom is a former teacher and we discuss the union thing all the time. She haaaaaates the union and when I talk to her teacher friends, they aren't exactly fond of it either. They resent that they get a bad rap because the union insists on fighting tooth and nail to protect the shittiest teachers and routinely give their dues away to causes they don't support. But they're all terrified to can the union because they are convinced that operating under normal business circumstances results in cronyism and that they won't be protected from bad bosses, etc. It's silly because most of these folks are married to people who work in the private sector and get along just fine.

Posted by: Mandy P. refuses to watch the SCOAMF at November 18, 2011 09:36 AM (qFpRI)

182 He went to Harvard, so it's hard to argue that he's stupid.

George W. Bush went to Yale and people argued he was stupid all the time.  And last I checked, it's Harvard that has their very own gated community of occutards.  They're sad because Elizabeth Warren wants nothing to do with them.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 18, 2011 09:37 AM (tqwMN)

183

190 184 Wall Street Journal reporting Newt and Willard in dead heat in NH. Jeebus, I do believe we have found our nominee. Now lets all support him and encourage him to embarass the press repeatedly.

Not a fucking chance. He's a loser.

Well Zombie Jackie, I guess you are a Willard gal?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at November 18, 2011 09:37 AM (0M3AQ)

184 Slicing like an effin' hammer, Ace.  Nice piece.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at November 18, 2011 09:38 AM (QKKT0)

185 I'd like to try it for myself, 187. I have enough hobbies that I think I could easily handle money of the size that would simply breed off interest.

Paid off house and interest income of about 50K a year? Yeah, I think I could do that.

Posted by: Scott J at November 18, 2011 09:38 AM (KC2BE)

186 He went to Harvard, so it's hard to argue that he's stupid.

When are we going to learn to stop equating college intelligence or the ability to reason. There is enough empirical DATA to totally destroy that myth.

Going to college simply means you found a way to pay for it and hang out 4 years hiding from real life. There is NO correlation between college and critical thinking skills, that ship sailed a long time ago.

Enough of the credential-ism we need to start determining a person's real abilities via observations through performance and behaviors, not some costly piece of paper.

Posted by: Fire with Fire at November 18, 2011 09:38 AM (lcwvr)

187 Posted by: Bob from Virginia at November 18, 2011 01:30 PM (SBjsJ)

There are three things I like about Obama.  1)  He was born in the USA.  2)  He killed Osama.  3)  And, uhhhhhhh . . . . . . . . . .

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 18, 2011 09:38 AM (TVvXc)

188

The move was taken in deference to environmentalists, on the pretext of studying the effects of hydraulic fracturing.

70 years with not one documented case of water table contamination  = "more study is needed".

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 18, 2011 09:39 AM (ZDP2l)

189 Whatsa, whosa Willard?

Personal curiosity.  It's the "w" between the "j" and the "b".

Posted by: jwb7605 at November 18, 2011 09:39 AM (Qxe/p)

190

As a teenager, for entertainment I would occasionally put explosives in the ground and blow big honking craters.  I regret nothing.  Gaia will kill us all eventually. Have to even the score any way we can.

 

(Practical note: Anticipate the shower of rocks and soil. Neglect that once, and you will be highly motivated to remember in the future.)

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 18, 2011 09:39 AM (w41GQ)

191 .the JEF is a marxist who is doing it to us on purpose.

Having gone through the exercise of deciding whether he's destroying the country intentionally or idiotically, our only line of attack strategically is to attack him as an idiot.

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 18, 2011 09:39 AM (OhYCU)

192 You must believe that Obama is either:

Dumb and evil are not mutually exclusive.  I don't think calling him out on it is a winning strategy though.

Posted by: DaveA at November 18, 2011 09:40 AM (u70JJ)

193 "45 It is not exactly a new narrative, but you can't really belabor the point. Progressives are child-like in their beliefs. Emotion trumps logic every time. " Down With WallStreet! Wait, what about my parents' retirement fund? What about my grandfather's pension?

Posted by: OccupyIdiocy at November 18, 2011 09:41 AM (VW1e8)

194 I don't remember who I saw say it first, but liberalism is Calvinball.

That's an insult to Calvinball.  At least it's fun.

Posted by: DaveA at November 18, 2011 09:41 AM (u70JJ)

195

70 years with not one documented case of water table contamination  = "more study is needed".

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 18, 2011 01:39 PM (ZDP2l)

One of the great unsolved problems in environmental science. The need for increased funding is obvious.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at November 18, 2011 09:43 AM (w41GQ)

196 Bob from Virginia, that's a great list. What movie are you reviewing? Just kidding, that would make a nice post.

Posted by: t-bird at November 18, 2011 09:45 AM (FcR7P)

197

>>92. Delaying shale gas drilling in Wayne National forest over fracking concerns even though are already known to be fallacious.

Posted by: Bob from Virginia at November 18, 2011 01:30 PM (SBjsJ)

So I take it that you're starting to have some creeping doubts about the "Hope" part of Hope and Change?

Posted by: ontherocks at November 18, 2011 09:47 AM (HBqDo)

198 this is beginning to have an lgf kind of feel to it...

Posted by: socrates krebs at November 18, 2011 09:47 AM (lB/5N)

199 "I can only imagine your horror at the kidney fights we used to have on the kill floor." Horror is right, those kidneys make great pie. Stop wasting them, you savage.

Posted by: Brit at November 18, 2011 09:48 AM (VW1e8)

200 I know a lot of folks who went to Harvard. Like everywhere else there are smart and dumb people there.

Posted by: Big T Party at November 18, 2011 09:49 AM (hC5jI)

201 I'm still alive, you know.

Posted by: Jackie Gingrich at November 18, 2011 09:51 AM (GTbGH)

202 Let these people who want to live a green life live like my parents did when they were growing up.  I don't think they will like it very much.

They couldn't camp out in the middle of the city without spreading pestilence and getting their lunch money stolen by bums.

Posted by: DaveA at November 18, 2011 09:55 AM (u70JJ)

203

Obama hates you.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at November 18, 2011 09:55 AM (8ieXv)

204 When Civilization is gone and the survivors are turning these clowns on a spit in Wayne National Forest do you think they'll say oops?

Posted by: DaveA at November 18, 2011 10:00 AM (u70JJ)

205

Haven't read all the comments yet, as I just got back from the heart doctors' office with another clean bill of health (which means I'm free to throw what few dietary restrictions I have out the window for the Holidays, whee!), but I can weigh in on this with a bit of authority.

The make-believe that is evidenced by our elite betters concerning those of us on the "lower" end of the job spectrum is now so entrenched in popular culture as to be qualified as insanity. Yeah, I spent my adulthood getting filthy at work, breathing grinding dust as a toolmaker and getting grease underneath my fingernails that no soap could remove (molybdenum disulphide grease is the best stuff going for die set pins, not that many of y'all would know what those are unless you've been in manufacturing, and that's not a dig against you if you don't), but our betters take great pride in their ignorance of such things.

I loved every greasy, grimy, sweaty minute of it. I busted my ass on my own time to learn everything I could about my craft, so I could be more valuable to my employer, and ultimately, to myself and my family.

The parts I've made have enabled many heart disease victims to lead better lives after their arteries were cleared with that little doohickey I worked on that their surgeons used on them. I made extra sure that the defense parts I made were to the proper specification, because I knew that a soldier in the field's life depended on it. The Shuttle flight hardware I worked on was a difficult job, but watching it fly was but one of the many rewarding moments. The people I came into contact with while I was doing this work were some of the finest, most intelligent and dedicated folk you'd ever want to meet.

They still are.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 18, 2011 10:00 AM (d0Tfm)

206 It causes all sorts of problems. Currently we have one of them in the White House.

Writer (ace) vs. internet smart-ass commenter (me) - Exhibit #1324552

Posted by: DaveA at November 18, 2011 10:02 AM (u70JJ)

207

>>>>>>I think even I'd be shaken to see a cow pulled up by its hind legs and electrocuted, or killed by a hammer-blow to skull.

"Okay, Ace let's move on to the killing floor."


"Killing floor?"


"Don't let the name fool you--it's really more of a grate that allows scraps and fluids to sluice through."

Posted by: Troy McClure at November 18, 2011 10:05 AM (BrQrN)

208 "145 The deal with the rich Hollywood types is that they made a lot of money very young by...looking good." Yeah, and when the public thinks about "obscenely overpaid" they are likely to think Wall Street, CEO's. They tend to not apply that term to some semi-literate actor who gets $20million for one movie. I'm looking at you, Will Ferrell.

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 18, 2011 10:07 AM (VW1e8)

209 Oooh, so Mother Nature needs a favor?! Well maybe she should have thought of that when she was besetting us with droughts and floods and poison monkeys! Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing. Well I say, hard cheese.

Posted by: Montgomery Burns at November 18, 2011 10:09 AM (GTbGH)

210
Bali Barack move,  "signing a massive aircraft deal between Boeing and Indonesia's Lion Air."  "Obama's Bush moment" -- tell us that Boeing is building the fleet stateside, that Made in America fleets are to be sold to Lion Air. Otherwise, the news squats considering how many jobs Obama delivers ABROAD with rising US unemployment--"lazy Americans" he says.

/btw, BackwardsBoy, glad to hear your beater's ticking in time.

Posted by: The Pirates Your Mom Feared at November 18, 2011 10:12 AM (lpWVn)

211 Great: "Newt nips Mitt". Swear that's a title of one of the "Bob" books.

Posted by: dagny at November 18, 2011 10:12 AM (LVDiz)

212

219.....Great post, Backwardsboy.

Do you watch that new show "Rocket City Rednecks"? ....It's on NatGeo.

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at November 18, 2011 10:15 AM (H/0mM)

213 As a teenager, for entertainment I would occasionally put explosives in the ground and blow big honking craters.  I regret nothing.  Gaia will kill us all eventually. Have to even the score any way we can.

I bought cans of spray paint and shoot them with a twelve gauge.  I'd get explosions of blue or red or whatever.  Good times, good times.

Posted by: WalrusRex at November 18, 2011 10:17 AM (TVvXc)

214 I think that ace is spot on with this. It's also why I think that they so many liberals have one or two areas (like vegetarianism, driving a Prius, etc.) wherein they sort of recognize this with a bit of piety toward the sacrificed. It's like "I know that somewhere dirty stuff is happening, so this token of behavior I'm enacting will assuage my abstract, directionless guilt."

Posted by: mr.frakypants at November 18, 2011 10:34 AM (2B4de)

215 Bob @ 170...that was beautiful. The RNC, if they had any balls, could run that list on a slow crawl over photos of Lord Zero saying or doing all those things. Maybe break it down into a series. I like it.

Posted by: Damn Sockpuppet at November 18, 2011 10:34 AM (YmPwQ)

216

It's like "I know that somewhere dirty stuff is happening, so this token of behavior I'm enacting will assuage my abstract, directionless guilt."

 

Kind of like my subscription to Netflix that I never use, but which assuages my guilt about bittorrenting like a mofo.

Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at November 18, 2011 10:40 AM (GTbGH)

217  
    A society governed by liberals can have no logical conclusion but to become nasty, brutal and short.  Even for the elite.

   Reality will ensure that outcome.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 18, 2011 10:56 AM (SAMxH)

218 I bought cans of spray paint and shoot them with a twelve gauge.

Shooting a capped milk jug filled with water with a M1 Garand is strangely satisfying as well.

Posted by: Jay in Ames at November 18, 2011 11:08 AM (UEEex)

219 Excellent post, Ace.

Posted by: Randy M at November 18, 2011 11:23 AM (vI8R6)

220 Bob, add to the Marie Antoinette item in your list: Moochelle taking a whole fuggin plane and security detail on vacation because she couldn't wait 4 hours to fly with hubby.

Posted by: Schwalbe : The Me-262© at November 18, 2011 12:42 PM (UU0OF)

221 “We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality”

Posted by: aynrand at November 18, 2011 12:58 PM (28xU3)

222 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at November 18, 2011 01:02 PM (7WJOC)

223 Very interesting take on the Liberal mind.  Particularly the Liberal Environmentalist mind.  It's what leads them to say that illegal immigration is necessary to do the jobs that Americans won't do.

Part of the magic beans theory is that they will regulate and sue the shit out of anybody trying to extract resources out of Gaia's green Earth with no repercussions or unintended consequences.

The same goes for gun control.  What do they care if people are being robbed, raped and murdered if it offends their magic thinking that everything is fine and dandy as long as they take guns away from evil Conservatives.

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