August 29, 2011
— Ace Is there a word -- maybe a German word, because they have a word for everything -- meaning "the pleasure experienced from hearing again something you already knew?"
If not, there should be.
I used to watch the same three documentaries on Boston's Big Dig, a few times each. It didn't bother me that I'd already heard it all before. That actually became the good thing -- it was nice that I'd heard it all before.
Take Shark Week. I'm thinking most guys who watch Shark Week know most of the shark trivia they're going to hear. But they love it just the same. Or maybe because it's the same.
This might be more common with men, who are known to watch the same movies or TV episodes repeatedly. Why is awesome the hundredth time John McClane shoots Hans Gruber? I don't know, it just is. It's comforting, maybe.
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oh, and Sir Golfalot is a SCOAMF!
I like German words... it would be cool if you get a response, no? I agree with what you say about we morons liking what we like and we're willing to experience it over and over again...
Posted by: Yip in Texas at August 29, 2011 08:21 PM (SyLEU)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 08:23 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 29, 2011 08:23 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 29, 2011 08:23 PM (UTq/I)
Posted by: Army of Darkness at August 29, 2011 08:24 PM (5I0Yr)
Posted by: Kaptain Amerika at August 29, 2011 08:25 PM (01VOE)
Posted by: Cicero at August 29, 2011 08:26 PM (ehEyA)
Posted by: Google Translate at August 29, 2011 08:26 PM (5I0Yr)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 29, 2011 08:28 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 08:30 PM (ZDUD4)
Spelling correction Yip. Look at the differences.
Damn Moron (BIRM).
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 29, 2011 08:30 PM (jDrNI)
Fail. Couldn't make it through halfway. Either I've grown too much since then or this movie was kinda dreckinhouzen. I'll take the hit... I've just lost the shine for the Excaliber... Anyone want to buy my blu ray version?
Posted by: Yip in Texas at August 29, 2011 08:31 PM (SyLEU)
Posted by: mike at August 29, 2011 08:32 PM (8JD1f)
Or why is it enjoyable to reread a book, or replay Final Fantasy II (Yes I know it was 4, that's not the point)? Because unlike life, we know what's coming next and if it was something we didn't want any part of, we wouldn't be watching that movie in the first place.
Posted by: Methos at August 29, 2011 08:33 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 29, 2011 08:33 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 08:36 PM (ZDUD4)
Obamasprekenagain
Posted by: dutchcedar at August 29, 2011 08:37 PM (+zdUU)
Budweiser.
Seriously Ace, if this is related to the Pam Geller fisaco, relax. Everyone supports you, and many go to bat for you as best they can, even at other blogs. Reading a few links, it looks like the incident goes way back, and does not really involve you. Pam is ... IDK, emotional ... Spencer is disappointing me (perhaps he had an off day when he posted, or something). You do excellent work. Relax and have the cold beverage of your choice, as a reward.
Posted by: Arbalest at August 29, 2011 08:38 PM (9Cr0a)
forgivenhouzen miez for not seezing und zpelling diffserenxzenhauzens. peace brother moron ..
ACE!
Posted by: Yip in Texas at August 29, 2011 08:41 PM (SyLEU)
Enjoyable for anytime viewing:
Braveheart
Diehard
Diehard 2 (to some extent)
Forrest Gump
Wizard of Oz (OK, call me gay)
The Great Escape
and many more . . .
Posted by: Sphynx at August 29, 2011 08:41 PM (M0c4a)
Posted by: BumperStickerist at August 29, 2011 08:41 PM (h6mPj)
Posted by: Moron watching Apocaypse now for the millionth time at August 29, 2011 08:44 PM (ZUWaD)
Posted by: Sheep #113 at August 29, 2011 08:45 PM (h6mPj)
Or, how many times can a guy watch Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, Godfather, Terminator, insert shoot em/action/war/western movie here?
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at August 29, 2011 08:45 PM (PK7oq)
Only the Extended Version of that movie is OK. The one where the Martin Sheen character gets to bang the Cynthia Wood character.
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 29, 2011 08:47 PM (jDrNI)
Oh, wait... that was a euphemism, wasn't it?
You kinky Ewok.
Posted by: Randy M at August 29, 2011 08:47 PM (GtTYq)
Posted by: ace at August 29, 2011 08:48 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: Walter Sobchak at August 29, 2011 08:49 PM (RTsI9)
Posted by: The English language is fun. at August 29, 2011 08:49 PM (CNlH+)
Posted by: KZnextzone at August 29, 2011 08:49 PM (ZUWaD)
Posted by: GATOR at August 29, 2011 08:50 PM (1fB+3)
Diehard
Diehard 2 (to some extent)
Forrest Gump
Wizard of Oz (OK, call me gay)
The Great Escape
Saving Private Ryan
Band of Brothers
Godfather
Terminator
adds --
Animal House
Apocalypse Now
add to you list boys
Posted by: Topsecretk9 at August 29, 2011 08:50 PM (PK7oq)
It sounded like it and the recent trolls were grating on you. Unnecessary crap.
JEF is about to melt (he wants a guy who likes the VAT?), and that's worth spending effort on. Stock up on energy drinks.
Posted by: Arbalest at August 29, 2011 08:52 PM (9Cr0a)
Posted by: Still watching and speaking along.. at August 29, 2011 08:52 PM (ZUWaD)
"Belated mastery" is the standard term psychology-talkin' guys (used to) use for that sort of feeling. Seeking it is usually a sign of some really bad shit in your head—shit you're compulsively re-living or re-repressing—but it can also just be a thing you like to do because it's a thing you like to do.
Basically, you experience things better when you're more sure of what you're experiencing, so to feel that betterness ("mastery"), you repeat things. It relieves anxiety. Or it makes it worse. Or it avoids it, which makes it worse, unless it doesn't.
The gigantic German word for it is probably in Beyond the Pleasure Principle, but that's like eighty feet away, so pffft.
Posted by: oblig.mund at August 29, 2011 08:52 PM (xvZW9)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 29, 2011 08:53 PM (nzRGp)
Diehard
Diehard 2 (to some extent)
Forrest Gump
Wizard of Oz (OK, call me gay)
The Great Escape
Saving Private Ryan
Band of Brothers
Godfather
Terminator
adds --
Animal House
Apocalypse Now
add to you list boys
Isn't this list nothing more than the list of the movies that make you stop and watch them, and screw everything else? Didn't we do this already sometime ago? WADR why are we doing this again?
Posted by: John P. Squibob at August 29, 2011 08:54 PM (jDrNI)
Posted by: Yip in Texas at August 29, 2011 08:55 PM (SyLEU)
Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 30, 2011 12:53 AM
If we bid it then Yes...Yes it is.
Posted by: Bechtel at August 29, 2011 08:55 PM (ZUWaD)
Posted by: stace at August 29, 2011 08:55 PM (LC5WQ)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 29, 2011 08:55 PM (O7FDX)
Posted by: Belated Masterer at August 29, 2011 08:56 PM (5I0Yr)
Indiana Jones vs. the Big Muzzie with the scimitar. That scene makes me laugh every time.
Fave movies: Any movie with Humphrey Bogart, Blazing Saddles, Band of Brothers, Princess Bride, Star Wars IV and VI originals (NOT the "edits/remakes/whatevers"), M*A*S*H, most of the classic musicals, Winds of War, QBVII, Mr. Roberts, Caine Mutiny.
Posted by: Taxpayer at August 29, 2011 08:58 PM (NpmCe)
Diehard
Diehard 2 (to some extent)
Forrest Gump
Wizard of Oz (OK, call me gay)
The Great Escape
Saving Private Ryan
Band of Brothers
Godfather
Terminator
adds --
Animal House
Apocalypse Now
adds . . .
Better Off Dead
Raising Arizona
add to you list boys
Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at August 29, 2011 08:59 PM (+iwM3)
Posted by: Heinz Doofenschmirtz at August 29, 2011 09:00 PM (JOXDV)
Posted by: Cicero at August 29, 2011 09:00 PM (ehEyA)
76 It probably is more of a guy thing, but I'm a girl, and I like to watch some things over and over. For example, for some odd reason I find Deadliest Catch rerun marathons to be soothing to fall asleep to.
Posted by: stace at August 30, 2011 12:55 AM (LC5WQ)
I love Deadliest Catch, but it's just not the same without Captain Phil.
Posted by: Taxpayer at August 29, 2011 09:01 PM (NpmCe)
Tin Men
Michael Clayton
Lost Treasure of the Sierra Madre
Patton
War of the Roses
Yellowbeard
Citizen Caine
Buckaroo Banzai
Posted by: KZnextzone at August 29, 2011 09:01 PM (ZUWaD)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at August 29, 2011 09:05 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Verbil Kint at August 29, 2011 09:06 PM (FZZ94)
for some reason I'm also a sucker for Reindeer Games
Charlize Theron could tell me she's going to kill me after sex and I'd still do it
Not the "Monster" Charlize or of course she would...
Posted by: KZnextzone at August 29, 2011 09:07 PM (ZUWaD)
Posted by: Damn Dirty RINO at August 29, 2011 09:08 PM (+iwM3)
-Shit Tolkein Wrote Chapter 2: Hobbits N Shit
Posted by: sifty at August 29, 2011 09:10 PM (4CSeG)
Especially Titanic. Over and over. With the volume turned up.
(call for help, now!)
Me, I like reruns of the SCOAMF's greatest fuckups. There are hours of good clean fun in watching those.
(call help for me, now!)
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 29, 2011 09:14 PM (ENKCw)
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Posted by: Spiker at August 29, 2011 09:23 PM (4t9J5)
Me?
I crave very new snippet of film about WWII. Especially if it pertains to ETO.
Have to do this because Tom Hanks so blistered my butt with his revisionist BULL-SHIT right after the Putt-King got elected. Seems the Hollyfreaks thought they did not have to hide their true feelings anymore. Kinda like Jane Fonda with a new open mike or something.
Posted by: Richard at August 29, 2011 09:24 PM (c9wTL)
I watched a news program about the Big Dig. They were saying how much overbudget it was. Then they showed a bunch of workers who spent a work day at a pub instead of being on the job. Then they went on to say how common that was. Then they were telling that since the Big Dig was mostly funded by federal tax dollars it was costing all of us an ungodly amount of money while union workers were screwing off and taking as long as they could to complete the thing so the money train would keep on rolling. So the whole thing was nothing but a make work program for an area of the country that had political influence (Ted Kennedy) to help a sagging Boston economy.
Was Obama up there when this crap was going on? It might explain where he gets some of his bright ideas from.
Posted by: Case at August 29, 2011 09:42 PM (DYR2Q)
I would add,
Night of the Living Dead
Star Wars Episode IV
And Empire Strikes back.
Robocop
Blowout
Dressed to Kill (all three great movies, but I hate Nancy Allen.)
Hudson Hawk.
Posted by: Douglas at August 29, 2011 09:46 PM (YKOnu)
I've seen every episode of Bones several times, It's still one of my favorite shows, used to be the same with L&O used to be the same, but it's dead to me now. They basically abandoned the story for politics.
Posted by: Douglas at August 29, 2011 09:49 PM (YKOnu)
Starship Troopers
"Fleet Action" (by William R. Forschtein)
"The Deeds of Paksinarion"
The first three Black Company Books by Glenn Cook
and the taltos novels, though the most recent one left me a little disappointed.
Posted by: Douglas at August 29, 2011 09:51 PM (YKOnu)
Case at August 30, 2011 01:42 AM
I don't know a lot about it but what I've heard is this: The Big Dig had to be dug through mud and Bechtel figured out that it could adapt a method they had used on the Hoover Dam to insert tubing into the pipes and cool the setting concrete so it would not form cracks, into a method to freeze the mud and allow for forward progress on the Big Dig. This was of course brilliant, but it came with a change order. Bing or Google the change order and the original contract. You'll see a couple of boats. The job costs went up and even a penalty would not have finished the gig as it was obvious it just needed to be completed...
Posted by: KZnextzone at August 29, 2011 09:52 PM (ZUWaD)
Posted by: Wolf Blitzer at August 29, 2011 09:53 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: GMB at August 29, 2011 09:54 PM (wY55N)
Posted by: Sports nut at August 29, 2011 09:58 PM (jeLTI)
The last 4 were also well written, though "She is the Darkness" that's the one with the Seige right? or is that "Bleak Seasons?"
Still good books, but one person described it, and is correct, and why I didn't list them as the over and over again type is because it's "Agony as Opera."
Posted by: Douglas at August 29, 2011 09:59 PM (YKOnu)
Just wondering. Overall I think GC did an excellent job on the whole series. Bleak Seasons was a bit difficult to get through the fist time but got easier to understand after more than one reading.
Incestuous relationship with Darling? Darling was not his daughter. She was a child rescued in a village after the limper and some of his soldiers destroyed it.
Posted by: GMB at August 29, 2011 10:09 PM (wY55N)
Posted by: Douglas at August 29, 2011 10:11 PM (YKOnu)
Posted by: Volk at August 29, 2011 10:12 PM (y3lsZ)
http://tinyurl.com/3mayw9m
Posted by: LeeBorg at August 29, 2011 10:13 PM (h6XiD)
Not to belabor the point Douglas. Nowhere in the Silver Spike is there any hint of a relationship between Raven and Darling. Go back to The White Rose when Darling is speaking to Croaker about Raven being alive. That is the only time Darling ever made Her interest known. Raven faked his death again the next day.
Darling and Case end up together at the end of that book.
Posted by: GMB at August 29, 2011 10:17 PM (wY55N)
Posted by: The Atom Bomb of Loving Kindness at August 29, 2011 10:18 PM (jqHOY)
Posted by: Douglas at August 29, 2011 10:18 PM (YKOnu)
Posted by: saltmarsh at August 29, 2011 10:22 PM (/+/fT)
So, Ace...
I love your skepticism and your willingness to examine your own and others' (so far as you can suss them) human motivations.
I'm not sure if you are 100% correct in some of your estimations but you do, many times, focus my attention on the bones of any argument.
You are far more sensitive and connected than I could ever be, plus you are very gifted at communicating.
I wouldn't worry too much about becoming a "Shark Week" type reporter unawares.
Sure, follow the stories!!
You have no idea how true the "people who count" post rang for many friends and relatives of mine all over the world.
Posted by: Deety at August 29, 2011 10:39 PM (tydO9)
How does that rise to the level of incest?
I am sorry. This is a silly subject to argue about I am not trying to score any points or make a "got ya" moment.
It would seem though that we have read two different books.
Posted by: GMB at August 29, 2011 10:42 PM (wY55N)
Posted by: Deety at August 29, 2011 10:45 PM (tydO9)
Posted by: theCork at August 29, 2011 10:48 PM (kK07X)
I like what Perry is saying, but the whole GREEN energy thing is grating on me and I'd really like to see Perry stand out in front of this more before I become his BFF. The wind and solar thing has been a taxpayer rip off and it needs to stop immediately..............
and I'm spent...
Posted by: Yip in Texas at August 29, 2011 10:52 PM (SyLEU)
That's just one example that certainly doesn't apply to all women, but I'm sure most women have something comparable.
Posted by: calamity at August 29, 2011 10:59 PM (Te3kW)
Posted by: theCork at August 29, 2011 11:00 PM (kK07X)
Posted by: Taxpayer at August 30, 2011 12:58 AM (NpmCe)
Um, I (new) hope that you meant SW: IV and V!?!
How could you leave out the genius of Kurts, Kasdan, and Kirshner!?!
Thanks.
Posted by: Staying on target!! at August 29, 2011 11:01 PM (8yPsP)
John Carpenter's The Thing...it never gets old.
Stargate SG-1 Series
Sherlock Holmes series with Jeremy Brett
Red Dwarf, still makes me laugh
Alien 2
Posted by: CanaDave at August 29, 2011 11:03 PM (UlfCH)
Posted by: Jonathan at August 29, 2011 11:04 PM (4lZeW)
I giggle at the students from UNT that were on the news complaining about all the carnage they were seeing at their OWN wind farm outside of town!!
Posted by: JarvisW at August 29, 2011 11:05 PM (8yPsP)
But, on the other hand, they are deeply worried that the rules of the game are changing for only the second time in American history and that they are unliked, targeted and to be punished for being successful. The result is not that the private sector is fleeing the US (where would one go?). Nor are entrepreneurs and go-getters shutting down their businesses that they have built from the ground up.
Instead, what we are witnessing is a sort of shrug, a pause, best summarized millions of times over as something like “I’m hoarding cash, hunkering down, and am going to wait this bad bunch out.”
Posted by: Barney Frank at August 29, 2011 11:11 PM (e8kgV)
To quote the hubby "Damn straight." It must be a man thing... I mean, just how many times can you watch Independence Day? If you're the hubby, ever frickin' time it comes on TV.
Posted by: Chinese Liver at August 29, 2011 11:28 PM (p6m0g)
Posted by: No Whining at August 29, 2011 11:44 PM (vM/sb)
Everyone has favorite story stimuli that gives comfort. It might be books or movies (or both), but experiencing these things that you know makes things seem alright for a while because it is not unknown.
Posted by: soulpile is... expendable, gop b., s.a. at August 29, 2011 11:45 PM (afWhQ)
Posted by: No Whining at August 29, 2011 11:45 PM (vM/sb)
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) — Astronauts may need to take the unprecedented step of temporarily abandoning the International Space Station if last week's Russian launch accident prevents new crews from flying there this fall.
Until officials figure out what went wrong with Russia's essential Soyuz rockets, there will be no way to launch any more astronauts before the current residents have to leave in mid-November.
The unsettling predicament comes just weeks after NASA's final space shuttle flight.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 29, 2011 11:51 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Herr Gotterdammerung at August 30, 2011 12:25 AM (C8hzL)
I am just an ignorant American that has lived in Germany many years, and this was defiantly the funniest. It almost sounds German.Congratulations sir, your prize will be sent in 4 to 6 weeks (or maybe not at all)
Posted by: TaiwanJoe at August 30, 2011 12:03 AM (L9hEP)
If COTS contracts can be filled on a cost per basis, then SpaceX will ramp their Launch abort system, and their Falcon heavy. They don't say that, but that's how I read it.
Posted by: Douglas at August 30, 2011 12:14 AM (YKOnu)
Posted by: Douglas at August 30, 2011 12:15 AM (YKOnu)
I don't know the "safety" argument is dead right now for russia. If russia has a problem with everyone elses agreement. disconnect and change orbit, OH YOU CAN'T Cuz All of the nations that could supply a low declination orbit were CONQUESTS THAT TURNED ON YOU!
EFF YOU RUSSIA, Seperate and keep up your bullshit.
Posted by: Douglas at August 30, 2011 12:27 AM (YKOnu)
I'm not upset by the Geller/Spencer thing
Good.
Ace not to butter you up, but after opening the mail program "Ace of Spades" is the second button to be pressed in the morning. The info here is thoughtful, commentors sharp with razor wit.
Geller? Been there once or twice, the woman is shrill like my ex.
She's broken somehow, don't lose any sleep over the matter.
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Posted by: Douglas at August 30, 2011 01:30 AM (YKOnu)
Posted by: Douglas at August 30, 2011 01:33 AM (YKOnu)
Also too...Wilford Brimley's movie stealing scene in Absence of Malice.
I avoid watching some flicks because of stuff I find disturbing, I cannot watch Schindler's list because of the scene where Ralph Fiennes shoots Jews for sport
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Posted by: Optimizer at August 30, 2011 04:22 AM (As94z)
I don't know the German for deja vu amnesia, which means "I think I have forgotten this before".
Dejavuamnesieplotzen?
Yeah, it has plotzen on the end of it
Posted by: Dave in Texas at August 30, 2011 04:52 AM (WvXvd)
Nah. I'm big on re-reading books and re-watching movies. I have to make a conscious effort to pick a new movie for me and the mister to watch. Back in the day there were maybe a dozen albums (remember them?!) I'd listen to over and over.
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 04:54 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Jeffrey Quick at August 30, 2011 05:03 AM (g9neE)
This might be more common with men, who are known to watch the same movies or TV episodes repeatedly. Why is awesome the hundredth time John McClane shoots Hans Gruber? I don't know, it just is. It's comforting, maybe.
Posted by: Ace at 12:13 AM I agree with Y-not. My friends, the female ones, and I all re-read certain books over and over. We also watch some movies over and over, although my choices are more eclectic than most of theirs(T2, Adventures in Baby-sittting, Pride and Prejudice for example.) I think this isn't male or female but as you said a sort of comforting re-live that good or exciting moment thing. After all why are the re-reuns every year of The Ten Commandments, Gone With the Wind,The Wizard of Oz so popular? For that matter why are re-runs popular at all? Maybe for the reasons you stated?
Posted by: Deanna at August 30, 2011 05:07 AM (GUMna)
Posted by: Acceptable Loss AudioBook at August 30, 2011 05:38 AM (A1vu2)
I don't know if there's a word for it, but since it's the exact opposite of cognitive dissonance (the displeasure/discomfort caused by learning things contrary to what you thought you knew), I like to call it cognitive resonance.
I think it fits pretty well.
Posted by: Entropy at August 30, 2011 05:55 AM (IsLT6)
Kinda like reading political and economic blogs, Ace. Left, right, center, Keynesian or Austrian, Elliot Wave or Fan charts, the arguments are always the same. Change the nouns and verbs, cut and paste from boilerplate, and viola! Steal someone else's inept photoshop. Add Kittens and Puppies! The Insight of the Day! The Drama!
Hell, Transhumanists, relgious, science and tech blogs do it, too.
The outcome is always the same. Nothing gets resolved. The plot and storyline get lost in the details. Loose threads are left dangling all over the place. Brain-dead, zombie sophistries overpower the heros and heroines of reason and logic. Good is defeated by evil...
But...I read it all, very day, none-the-less.
I don't have to watch a movie.
The Zombie Apocalypse is already here, in real life, each and every day. ...and I can't turn my eyes away from it.
Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at August 30, 2011 05:56 AM (E7Z1r)
Damnation upon TNT channel and the Lord of the Rings trilogy.....
Just......can't ..........stop the.....remote...from....going..there.......ahhhhhhhhh yes
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Is there a word -- maybe a German word, because they have a word for everything -- meaning "the pleasure experienced from hearing again something you already knew?"
"Validationheit" ... is ein guter deutscher wort ... Jezt, Ace, shall ve talk?
Posted by: Counselor Deanna Troi, wondering about Ace at August 29, 2011 08:16 PM (9Cr0a)