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August 09, 2011

Reid Appoints First 3 Members Of Debt Super Committee
— DrewM

Patty Murray, head of the Democratic Senate Campaign Committee? The woman charged with Mediscaring every GOP Senate candidate next year? Alrighty then.

Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) has selected Sen. Patty Murray of Washington to serve as co-chair of a new congressional committee charged with reducing the debt, ReidÂ’s office announced Tuesday.
Reid has also chosen Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) to serve on the panel, which was created under the terms of the recent deal to raise the nationÂ’s debt ceiling, the statement said.
...
ReidÂ’s selections include none of the senators who served on the so-called Gang of Six, a bipartisan group that met for months to devise a plan to dramatically reduce the debt through spending cuts and entitlement and tax reforms.

Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell talks about his appointees to the committee but doesn't say very much.

"I asked our colleagues, our Republican colleagues, who would like to be on it," McConnell said. "And I basically sat down in person with the people who wanted to be on it, talked to them about it, and have done follow-up calls to several of them that IÂ’m leaning toward appointing."
McConnell also said that he was looking for legislators who were ready to receive a great deal of pressure about the committee.
"IÂ’m putting people on there that I think have high character, great integrity, and can deal with the fact that they are going to be pushed and pulled and lobbied by everyone in this town, including our own colleagues in the Senate," McConnell said.

Remember, it only takes one of the six to side with the 6 members from the other party to get a plan to the floor of both houses. I think McConnell should appoint two hardcore members like Toomey and Rubio and then for the "RINO" member....Orrin Hatch. He has a reputation as a deal maker but he is in full on "Please don't dump me like you did Bob Bennett last year" mode. He'll look moderate but he's scared...in a good way.

I'm not too worried about the House. There are plenty of solid conservatives and Boehner isn't about to come this far only to blow it up by appointing the one vote that screws over the GOP.

I'm guessing nothing comes of this "super committee" and they simply find a way to waive the second half of cuts while releasing the rest of the debt ceiling increase.

Posted by: DrewM at 03:11 PM | Comments (176)
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1
it's all academic

it's gonna result in a 6-6 tie

Posted by: soothsayer carnak the magnificent at August 09, 2011 03:13 PM (gb1X2)

2 Rand Paul would be a fun choice too.

Posted by: Ann NY at August 09, 2011 03:14 PM (TPZrx)

3 I'm guessing nothing comes of this "super committee" and they simply find a way to waive the second half of cuts while releasing the rest of the debt ceiling increase. Many of us knew this would happen... and you may even see "revenue enhancements." Wanna take bets on that?

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:16 PM (AZGON)

4 Rand Paul or GTFO.

Posted by: Portnoy at August 09, 2011 03:16 PM (KROfR)

5 BTW, the debt ceiling will hit us much faster now that the market crash will depress revenues, is this not so?

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:16 PM (AZGON)

6 Rubio, Toomey, & DeMint

Posted by: TexBob at August 09, 2011 03:16 PM (WeedA)

7 For the GOP we select Darth Vader, Big Jake McCandles & of course Dick Cheney.

Posted by: Paladin at August 09, 2011 03:17 PM (ycm4Q)

8
The Democrats will propose: the balance of Obama's debt limit increase and tax increases.

The Republicans will propose: the balance of Obama's debt limit increase and spending cuts.

Then they'll meet in the middle a debt limit increase, tax increases, and puny spending cuts. In other words another shitty deal.

The Republicans need to BEGIN with proposing: tax cuts, huge spending cuts, and a moderate increase in the debt limit. And then let the Democrats meet them half way.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 03:18 PM (Qh31g)

9 There are plenty of solid conservatives and Boehner isn't about to come this far only to blow it up by appointing the one vote that screws over the GOP.

I don't have that degree of confidence. This whole "deal" was a bad idea.

Posted by: Vic at August 09, 2011 03:18 PM (M9Ie6)

10 Toomey and Rubio are alright but screw Hatch. He's a big reason we're in the mess we're in, don't give him a chance for re-election. The guys been there thirty five years fucking things up.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 09, 2011 03:19 PM (GZitp)

11 Boehner isn't about to come this far only to blow it up by appointing the one vote that screws over the GOP. It's always five o'clock somewhere.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:19 PM (AZGON)

12 I think it's an interesting comment about the politics in the Dem Senate.

Clearly Patty Murray has sway and power that I don't understand.

And Kerry? On the other thread, people joked about why not Schumer? Why not Schumer? He's just as much of a preening ass as Kerry but far more intelligent and shrewd. Baucus is their budget guy, so that at least makes sense. He might try to hammer out an actual deal. It's quite clear that the R members of the committee are to ignore Murray and Kerry and deal directly with Baucus.

As for the Senate Rs, I'm fine with Hatch for now for the reasons you point out, DrewM. I'd love to have DeMint there, but he's made it clear that he and McConnell don't play well together and the same with Rand Paul. (Although I loathe his father, I think Rand actually wants to do responsible things.)

Toomey's an excellent choice. He's low-key but smart and wears the green eyeshade. Rubio'd be good, but again I'd rather have DeMint or Paul. Rubio shouldn't have this boondoggle on his resume. He's destined for better things.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 09, 2011 03:20 PM (73tyQ)

13 House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., and House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Dave Camp, R-Mich., are among the names most frequently mentioned by congressional aides and lobbyists as Boehner's likely picks.

Political activists and lobbyists said other likely picks include Reps. James E. Clyburn, D-S.C., a member of the House Democratic leadership, and Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., top Democrat on the House Budget Committee.

Sens. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., the No. 2 Senate Republican; Rob Portman, R-Ohio, a Bush administration budget director; and Mike Johanns, R-Neb., his state's former governor, also are possibilities.

Wapo

Sen. Brown as a dark horse.....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 09, 2011 03:20 PM (EeYDk)

14 Yeah, what is the deal with Patty Murray? Come again?

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:21 PM (AZGON)

15 Lindsey Graham, Scott Brown, Susan Collins.

Posted by: Spiker at August 09, 2011 03:22 PM (E8oYF)

16 Jon Kyl? We're screwed...

Posted by: Donna at August 09, 2011 03:22 PM (OVCfn)

17 Superfriends. That's who should be on the super dooper committee. But not the Superfriends with Zan and Jana and that fucking monkey. The older Superfriends with those teenagers who had no powers. Those two kids are the key to saving this god damn country. Find them. And I'll reward you by putting on a cardigan and letting you sit on my lap while we feed each other and anally toy our pleasure zones with Wearthers original toffee. But yeah, mostly anally toy.

Posted by: Grandpa's wisdom at August 09, 2011 03:22 PM (STTZD)

18 13 Toomey and Rubio are alright but screw Hatch. He's a big reason we're in the mess we're in, don't give him a chance for re-election. The guys been there thirty five years fucking things up.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 09, 2011 07:19 PM (GZitp)

Oh, no. Hatch is the least likely to compromise now. I would not be surprised at all to see him being the voice of budget-slashing and holding the line on taxes. He'll out-Ryan Ryan.

Hatch'll be a very good boy from now until November 2012.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 09, 2011 03:22 PM (73tyQ)

19 Sen. Brown as a dark horse..... Cordovan but with some very blue undertones.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:22 PM (AZGON)

20 Why not Schumer?
Posted by: AmishDude at August 09, 2011 07:20 PM (73tyQ)

No need to have him out front on this. It seems like he's basically running the Democratic Caucus anyway. Besides, sticking his hand up Reid's ass and moving his mouth takes up most of his time anyway.

Posted by: DrewM. at August 09, 2011 03:22 PM (WnQJ3)

21 " Boehner isn't about to come this far only to blow it"

Too Late.

Boo-Hoo already blew it.

That's how we ended up were we are today

Posted by: Mark E at August 09, 2011 03:23 PM (9NYw4)

22
Even if this silly committee submits a proposal, Obama will reject it. And then lie about it.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 03:23 PM (7lPnF)

23 The guys been there thirty five years fucking things up.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 09, 2011 07:19 PM (GZitp)

Amusingly enough, he actually first ran against his opponent on the platform that three terms was too long for anyone to hold the office, because they lose touch with their constituents.

Posted by: blue star at August 09, 2011 03:24 PM (MLZxF)

Hatch'll be a very good boy from now until November 2012.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 09, 2011 07:22 PM (73tyQ)

That just proves what a dog and pony show this is. Why do we keep rewarding people that got us in this mess?

Posted by: lowandslow at August 09, 2011 03:24 PM (GZitp)

25 Don't be so sure the Repubs don't put a scapegoat in there. One guy, who's retiring anyway, to take the fall when taxes get raised and the depression sets in for two or three more years.

Think about it. It makes sense to give the Dems a little more rope.

Posted by: Cooter at August 09, 2011 03:25 PM (C06Qq)

26 No need to have him out front on this. It seems like he's basically running the Democratic Caucus anyway. Besides, sticking his hand up Reid's ass and moving his mouth takes up most of his time anyway.

He must know that he looks like a vampire and people generally hate his guts. But I agree, Schumer runs the Senate Dems in a fundamental way.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 09, 2011 03:25 PM (73tyQ)

27 I imagine consulting Empire of Jeff for his SuperFriends Committee picks. 1. Soup Nazi 2. General Zod 3. Senator Palpatine 4. Scrooge McDuck 5. General Jack Ripper 6. Vlad Tepes

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:25 PM (AZGON)

28 I hope Harry doesn't miss his pomegranate trees blooming. Because that would be a shame.

/

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2011 03:27 PM (UOM48)

WooHoo, we're gonna clean up in Washington, Patty Murray will make sure the gravy train keeps running for us! For sure she'd never do anything stupid that would harm our state!

It is a relief to know this super committee will have top minds solving our economic problems. Top. Minds.

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at August 09, 2011 03:27 PM (RZ8pf)

30
Question:

Is the voting of the 12 members secret or public?

Posted by: dan-O at August 09, 2011 03:27 PM (BAjNF)

31
"Making these reforms doesnÂ’t require any radical steps. What it does require is common sense and compromise. There are plenty of good ideas about how to achieve long-term deficit reduction that doesnÂ’t hamper economic growth right now."

In other words: no spending cuts.

"Republicans and Democrats on the bipartisan fiscal commission that I set up put forth good proposals."

Which Obama ignored! Obama ignored his own silly commission's proposal.

"Republicans and Democrats in the SenateÂ’s Gang of Six came up with some good proposals."

Which never materialized. Only chatter from a bunch of harumphing senators.

"John Boehner and I came up with some good proposals when we came close to agreeing on a grand bargain."

Which Obama reneged on and then walked away.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 03:27 PM (ubj4j)

32 Would that be the drunk Max or sober Max?

Posted by: Ingemar Johansson at August 09, 2011 03:28 PM (FnIuw)

33 The Repubs are scared to death to be blamed by the MSM. One guy takes the blame instead of the entire brand. Sure, it hurts the economy, but who gets blamed for a bad economy? The president. I just hope they don't dig too deep a hole.

Posted by: Cooter at August 09, 2011 03:28 PM (C06Qq)

34 Heh! We can get Baucus on our side by getting him drunk as hell.

Posted by: beedubya at August 09, 2011 03:28 PM (AnTyA)

35 Can someone tell me what was cut from the first round of this deal?

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 09, 2011 03:29 PM (bAySe)

36 I absolutely have lost faith in the ability of our so-called government of the people, by the people and for the people. Both sides are padding their bunkers and you and me are gonna be eating the shit when it starts flying. We've been sold out by the ruling class. It's not even fun snarking assholes like Orrin Hatch anymore. Teaching him political knife fighting would be like trying to teach a dog a magic trick. (I think PJ O'Rourke said that)

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 09, 2011 03:29 PM (KbEJl)

37 Im worried its going to be the same old tune before... its tails we lose heads they win. Guess I expected the music on the USS Titanic and Neros fiddle to at least play good music on the way down. Should of known better. How about a rousing chorus of "were not gonna take it" or "fuck you twats thats my paycheck."

Posted by: Shiggz at August 09, 2011 03:29 PM (v8Pb8)

38 Question:
Is the voting of the 12 members secret or public?
Posted by: dan-O at August 09, 2011 07:27 PM (BAjNF)

Who the hell knows? I don't remember having a voice in any of this super-committee shit. That's what we elect congressmen and Senators for.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 09, 2011 03:30 PM (GZitp)

39
Zan and Jana and that fucking monkey
Grandpa's wisdom

"WonderTwin powers activate!"

"Shape of a Rhino!"

"Form of a pail of lukewarm water!"

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 09, 2011 03:30 PM (EeYDk)

40 Ah, Patty "Osama was building roads and schools while we bomb people" Murray, John "Censor my opponents" Kerry, and Max "Drunken Shouter" Baucus. This can't *possibly* go wrong. Also, we're boned.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 09, 2011 03:30 PM (bxiXv)

41 If only there was someone both parties respected, someone great, someone knowledgeable in the ways of DC, someone of renown who could head this committee.
Snarlin' Arlen doin anything this fall?

Posted by: Milton J Shapp at August 09, 2011 03:30 PM (le5qc)

42 'Kay, everyone understands all three appointees are going to be RINOs, right?

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 09, 2011 03:31 PM (LE4fl)

43 OT - from BBC, a list of the draconian lengths to which the violent Met police have reached: 0024: The Metropolitan Police say 685 arrests have been made in connection with disorder across London in recent days. Of those, 111 people have been charged. Here's the breakdown of charges: Burglary - 69 Public Order Act offences - 13 Assault on police - 2 Robbery - 3 Possession of offensive weapons - 5 Handling stolen goods - 6 Criminal damage - 1 Going equipped - 1 Drug offences - 3 Miscellaneous other offences - 8 An entire 111 charges. The CHP gives more tickets on a Monday night on the 405.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:31 PM (AZGON)

"IÂ’m putting people on there that I think have high character, great integrity, and can deal with the fact that they are going to be pushed and pulled and lobbied by everyone in this town, including our own colleagues in the Senate," McConnell said.

Translation: There will be no Pubbies on this panel, because there is no one who fits that description inside Washington.

Sorry.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 09, 2011 03:31 PM (d0Tfm)

45 Patty Murray --biggest dingbat on the King County tree i n the Northwest--only contender for the title is Jim McDermott in the House. You "balance her out" with Jean Fraud Kerry? Where's the Preparation H?

Posted by: Comanche Voter at August 09, 2011 03:31 PM (3ESDJ)

46 40 I absolutely have lost faith in the ability of our so-called government of the people, by the people and for the people. Posted by: USS Diversity at August 09, 2011 07:29 PM (KbEJl) Government to the people, on the people, and in the people!

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 09, 2011 03:32 PM (bxiXv)

47
Can someone tell me what was cut from the first round of this deal?

$2T in spending cuts...beginning when all the sitting politicians in Washington are either dead or retired.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 03:32 PM (Xs7AG)

48 That is useful information and its quite easy to come a croper if you are not vigilant.

Posted by: Domestic Violets Audio Book at August 09, 2011 03:33 PM (rmJsH)

49 No, like what programs, specifically, got cancelled?

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 09, 2011 03:34 PM (bAySe)

50 Posted by: Domestic Violets Audio Book Domestic Violets... didn't they open for Black Flag at the Palladium in the eighties?

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:34 PM (AZGON)

51 Posted by: Domestic Violets Audio Book at August 09, 2011 07:33 PM (rmJsH) It's "cropper" you ignorant slut.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 09, 2011 03:34 PM (bxiXv)

52
No, like what programs, specifically, got cancelled?

And you call yourself 'serious'....

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 03:35 PM (S2LZH)

53 Het spam, what the hell does "croper" mean?

Posted by: lowandslow at August 09, 2011 03:35 PM (GZitp)

54 Ok either we go with hawks, or it is a waste of time.

Say
DeMint, Paul, Rubio;

DeMint will be the establishment conservative guy.
Paul will be the libertarian "The federal government needs to be all but abolished guy."
Rubio will be the "good cop"

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 09, 2011 03:36 PM (0q2P7)

55 Well, she is pretty hot for a senator.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2011 03:36 PM (LH6ir)

56 No, like what programs, specifically, got canceled?
Posted by: Serious Cat

We got $17 billion in additional Pell Grant spending.

Wait, did you say canceled? Uhhh......

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 09, 2011 03:37 PM (EeYDk)

57 Yep, Hatch is scared shitless. Good pick.

Put Chaffetz on the House committee so Hatch will have to match him in every move.

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 03:38 PM (5H6zj)

58 Well if I ran the Senate we'd get a hard-core group of conservatives on this panel, like Joe Miller and Christine O'Donnell and Joe DioGuardi. And me. Oh, right, never mind.

Posted by: Sharron Angle at August 09, 2011 03:38 PM (f8XyF)

59 I'm guessing nothing comes of this "super committee" and they simply find a way to waive the second half of cuts while releasing the rest of the debt ceiling increase. Yup- that's where my money is. Well what's left of my money.

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 09, 2011 03:38 PM (i6RpT)

60 60 Well, she is pretty hot for a senator. What is that in her mouth? Teeth? Or broken keys from a dirty toy piano?

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:38 PM (AZGON)

61
Canceled programs?

You Can't Be Serious, Cat???

Posted by: John McEnroe at August 09, 2011 03:39 PM (utELx)

62 Thank god/gaia/allah that Mike Castle isnt on the committee

Posted by: cherry π at August 09, 2011 03:39 PM (OhYCU)

63 Thank god/gaia/allah that Mike Castle isnt on the committee He's there in spirit, my friend. Always in spirit.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:40 PM (AZGON)

64 Breaking: France just surrendered to the UK rioters

Posted by: cherry π at August 09, 2011 03:40 PM (OhYCU)

everyone understands all three appointees are going to be RINOs, right?

If that turns out to be the case, I think I'll need a bottle of Old English, and some Valium.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 09, 2011 03:40 PM (dWPyO)

66 Put Chaffetz on the House committee so Hatch will have to match him in every move.

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 07:38 PM (5H6zj)

I like the way you think.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 09, 2011 03:40 PM (73tyQ)

Well, she is pretty hot for a senator.

Gee whiz, how about a little warning next time, m'kay? I can't pour Valu-Rite directly in my eyes for obvious reasons.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 09, 2011 03:41 PM (d0Tfm)

68 McConnell wanted tax increases and to massage Obama's sac from the get-go.

Expect Graham, McCain, and assorted squishes/camera whores to be named later.

I could be wrong. It happened before in '79.

Posted by: sifty the tearorist at August 09, 2011 03:41 PM (ECjvn)

69 Orrin "Escape" Hatch.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:41 PM (AZGON)

Government to the people, on the people, and in the people!

Suh-Weet. That's T-Shirt material sir.

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 09, 2011 03:41 PM (KbEJl)

71 Posted by: Shiggz at August 09, 2011 07:29 PM (v8Pb

This is how you talk about the men and women who have been elected to lead this country? I knew Republicans were selfish, but more and more I am learning that they are nasty and mean too. That explains why they would rather keep their money than help the poor and the sick and the undocumented among us -- people whose only "crime" is not being a fat-cat who clips coupons and plays golf and was born white. But Obama has played this well. The debt committee will see to it that you will begin to pay more of your fair share. You can't keep what you have made on the backs of the people who built this country -- the working men and women!

You should be ashamed!

Posted by: Peppermint Patty's BenWa balls at August 09, 2011 03:41 PM (LH6ir)

72 If that turns out to be the case, I think I'll need a bottle of Old English, and some Valium.

Hands off my private stash!

Posted by: Lucy Hayes at August 09, 2011 03:42 PM (LE4fl)

73 Is Patty Murray the stupid twat who praised Osama for building Day Care Centers in Asscrackistan?

Posted by: sifty the tearorist at August 09, 2011 03:44 PM (ECjvn)

74 Expect Graham, McCain, and assorted squishes/camera whores to be named later. I could be wrong. It happened before in '79. Posted by: sifty the tearorist at August 09, 2011 07:41 PM (ECjvn Graham/McCain? Shit I hope not.

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 09, 2011 03:44 PM (i6RpT)

75
You should be ashamed!

Maybe we could request trolls from the WH. This self trolling, is just getting ho hum.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 09, 2011 03:44 PM (0q2P7)

76 I dunno, guys. I find it pretty depressing that 10 months after such a large wave election, we can't seem to cite a single example of a cancelled gov program. Not even public broadcasting? Some stupid climate change program out of NASA or NOAA? Anything? How about that lightbulb ban repeal? How's that coming along?

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 09, 2011 03:44 PM (bAySe)

77
still no news from WI?

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 03:45 PM (7+Mqs)

78 O/T Good grief. Again with the tornado sirens tonight.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2011 03:45 PM (UOM48)

79 This is how you talk about the men and women who have been elected to lead this country?

You racist! You forgot the transgenders and transsexuals!

Posted by: Woodstock's AA+ batteries at August 09, 2011 03:45 PM (73tyQ)

80 @80 Yes. From December 2002: WASHINGTON Â— Sen. Patty Murray intended to be provocative when she told a group of high school students terrorist leader Osama bin Laden is popular in poor countries because he helped pay for schools, roads and even day care centers. Â“We havenÂ’t done that,Â” Murray said. Â“How would they look at us today if we had been there helping them with some of that rather than just being the people who are going to bomb in Iraq and go to Afghanistan?Â”

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:45 PM (AZGON)

81 Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 09, 2011 07:44 PM (0q2P7)

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 09, 2011 03:46 PM (LH6ir)

82 This self trolling, is just getting ho hum.

Don't worry, I'll be around during the Wisconsin recall thread.

Posted by: Greg at August 09, 2011 03:46 PM (LE4fl)

83
Have you been in a coma for the last 7 months, Serious Cat?

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 03:46 PM (jldxi)

84 I find it pretty depressing that 10 months after such a large wave election, we can't seem to cite a single example of a cancelled gov program. Not even public broadcasting?

Yeah, the NPR thing really pisses me off. We had them dead to rights ON VIDEOTAPE and noone had the spine to unload that thing.

And whatever became of the PBS video that we were hearing about?

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 03:46 PM (5H6zj)

85 _{I dunno, guys. I find it pretty depressing that 10 months after such a
large wave election, we can't seem to cite a single example of a
cancelled gov program. Not even public broadcasting? Some stupid
climate change program out of NASA or NOAA? Anything? How about that
lightbulb ban repeal? How's that coming along?}

Or a single government employee getting fired because of Issa's much-hyped investigations.

Posted by: sifty the tearorist at August 09, 2011 03:47 PM (ECjvn)

86 How about that lightbulb ban repeal? How's that coming along?

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 09, 2011 07:44 PM (bAySe)

That legislation was truly disgraceful, and they think they can make the case against Obamacare's individual mandate? *sigh*

Posted by: KG at August 09, 2011 03:47 PM (LD21B)

87
Serious Cat, you need to sit down; I have something to tell you.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 03:47 PM (i+piv)

88 I can't wait for the pictures of the super-committee with their sleeves rolled up. Because if you have your sleeves rolled up you're really doing something.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 09, 2011 03:47 PM (GZitp)

89 84
still no news from WI?

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 07:45 PM (7+Mqs)

Polls close 8pm central, that's 1 and a quarter hours from now.

And even then, don't trust much of the early reporting. Accurate results are bound to be slow in coming.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 09, 2011 03:48 PM (73tyQ)

90
Brace yourself, SC.

Republicans only control 1/2 of...oh fuckit I can't do this...somebody else tell him...

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 03:48 PM (/vkdW)

And even then, don't trust much of the early reporting. Accurate results are bound to be slow in coming.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 09, 2011 07:48 PM (73tyQ)

Gotta wait for the car trunks to be filled, ya know.

Posted by: KG at August 09, 2011 03:48 PM (LD21B)

92 10 months after such a large wave election, we can't seem to cite a single example of a cancelled gov program. Not even public broadcasting? That is not the hill to die on. Not that hill. We only have the power of the purse but we can't defund that. No. Wait for something bigger, like 2012. Or maybe 2014, after the mid-terms are over, if they go well. 2016 isn't out of the question. But definitely we will do something by 2018 at the latest.

Posted by: Mature Republicans wielding the levers of power at August 09, 2011 03:49 PM (AZGON)

93 Can we put Elizabeth Lambert on the Committee? (errr, on our side)

Posted by: cherry π at August 09, 2011 03:49 PM (OhYCU)

94 _{And even then, don't trust much of the early reporting. Accurate results are bound to be slow in coming.}

The dead are notoriously slow in voting.

Posted by: sifty the tearorist at August 09, 2011 03:49 PM (ECjvn)

95 Is Patty Murray the stupid twat who praised Osama for building Day Care Centers in Asscrackistan?

Posted by: sifty the tearorist at August 09, 2011 07:44 PM (ECjvn)

Yes.

Posted by: Osama bin Truck Monkey, TEArrorist at August 09, 2011 03:49 PM (jucos)

96 What?

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 09, 2011 03:49 PM (bAySe)

97 I'm kinda glad I didn't die on that last hill.

Posted by: cherry π at August 09, 2011 03:49 PM (OhYCU)

Posted by: Lucy Hayes at August 09, 2011 07:42 PM (LE4fl)

Fair enough. You certainly have the moral authority to speak on such issues.

How bout horse tranquilizers?

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 09, 2011 03:49 PM (A0VTZ)

99
No reports of voter intimidation (because people were asked for ID)? Nothing?

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 03:49 PM (Po8Ix)

100 1/2 of...oh fuckit

close enough

DRINK!

Posted by: sifty the tearorist at August 09, 2011 03:49 PM (ECjvn)

101 The dead are notoriously slow in voting. Posted by: sifty the tearorist at August 09, 2011 07:49 PM (ECjvn) Maybe, but i bet they faster than most of the old people I sometimes get stuck behind

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 09, 2011 03:50 PM (i6RpT)

102 O/T, but iowahawk is perpetually funny:

@iowahawkblog

Day 4: Tea Party riots spread across UK

Posted by: AmishDude at August 09, 2011 03:50 PM (73tyQ)

103

I am pleased to announce the three GOP Senators: Philippe Petain, Vidkun Quisling, and Benedict Arnold. And let me tell you, brother, they are gonna fight like tigers!

It is my understanding that the GOP House members will be Jonathan Wainright, Arthur Percival, and Freddie von Paulus. Victory is assured!

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at August 09, 2011 03:51 PM (xy9wk)

104 100 Can we put Elizabeth Lambert on the Committee?

I'd pay good money to see her take one of those Democrat women politicians down, or even Murray.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 09, 2011 03:51 PM (GZitp)

105

Just thought I'd throw this out there...

Anyone going to the Perry speech in Charleston on Saturday?

I may be going, and it might be fun to meet up with a Moe Ron or two. I'm on the yahoo group.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 09, 2011 03:51 PM (A0VTZ)

106 Brace yourself, SC.

Republicans only control 1/2 of...oh fuckit I can't do this...somebody else tell him...

The majority of Republicans are still invertebrates which limits what you can expect them to be able to do: Stand on their own two feet without being propped up for instance.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose at August 09, 2011 03:52 PM (0q2P7)

107 That legislation was truly disgraceful, and they think they can make the case against Obamacare's individual mandate? *sigh* No freaking kidding. The GOP cannot defund tiny programs (NPR) because the prize isn't big enough and it makes liberals cry, which makes the GOP look insensitive and racist. Light bulb mandate? No, too big a bite. And we have only one tenth of one fiftieth of a House of Pain or something. Just wait. Because they fully intend to gut Obamacare, from asshole to beak. Pinky swear. In a few years. Or so.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:52 PM (AZGON)

108 That debt ceiling deal looks worse every day.

Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2011 03:52 PM (IfDqm)

109 Pffffffftttttt.

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at August 09, 2011 03:52 PM (n2K+4)

110 Clearly McConnell will put on Sen. Murdecowsky, Voinovich and Kyl or Coburn, people who will sell out under pressure.

Posted by: eaglewingz08 at August 09, 2011 03:52 PM (ktkHk)

111 Reid Appoints First 3 Ass Sucking Numb Nuts Socialist Members Of Debt Super Committee

oops.... did I say that out loud?

Posted by: Berserker at August 09, 2011 03:53 PM (FMbng)

112

Just thought I'd throw this out there...

Anyone going to the Perry speech in Charleston on Saturday?

Perry the Platypus?

Posted by: H. Doofensmirtz at August 09, 2011 03:53 PM (jucos)

113 It was all in the wrist.. in case anyone is wondering.

It always is.

Posted by: toby928™'s cheetos stained cod at August 09, 2011 03:53 PM (GTbGH)

114 I'm kinda glad I didn't die on that last hill. It's okay. You wouldn't have, and neither would anyone else.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:54 PM (AZGON)

115 It's in my wrist, right now

Posted by: cherry π at August 09, 2011 03:54 PM (OhYCU)

116 Will Senator Murray be overseeing the Al Qaeda Daycare spending?

I think that might be a conflict of interests.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 09, 2011 03:54 PM (oUG6f)

117 It is my understanding that the GOP House members will be Jonathan Wainright, Arthur Percival, and Freddie von Paulus. Victory is assured! Posted by: Mitch McConnell at August 09, 2011 07:51 PM (xy9wk) Well Wainright got dealt a pretty shitty hand by MacArthur

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 09, 2011 03:54 PM (i6RpT)

118
Stand on their own two feet without being propped up for instance.

Yes. Or to put it another way...

Do you like Jell-O, Serious Cat?

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 03:55 PM (q19mL)

119 The membership of the super committee is important, but what is especially crucial is the makeup of the super-select subcommittee of the super committee.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 09, 2011 03:55 PM (+lsX1)

120 10 months after such a large wave election, we can't seem to cite a single example of a cancelled gov program. Not even public broadcasting?

Two words -- Overton Window.

Now, don't you feel better?

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 09, 2011 03:55 PM (EeYDk)

121 I don't think Senator Murray has to worry about the polygamy policies of the Taliban. I do wish she would adopt the abaya, though.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:55 PM (AZGON)

122 The good news is that if it comes down to battle of wits, the Dem side is down one member. In a Senate full of dim bulbs, Murray manages to out-stupid them all.

Thank you, State of Washington, for gifting us with the intellectual equivalent of a test pattern every six years.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate at August 09, 2011 03:57 PM (B0893)

123
The GOP cannot defund tiny programs (NPR) because the prize isn't big enough and it makes liberals cry, which makes the GOP look insensitive and racist. Light bulb mandate? No, too big a bite.

GO just discovered something new!

The GOP's Goldilocks Paradox.

Posted by: soothsayer at August 09, 2011 03:57 PM (J/h7H)

124

Perry the Platypus?

Rick "a 1998 Honda Civic in every driveway" Perry.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 09, 2011 03:58 PM (A0VTZ)

125 The Super Committee has Super Powers, I guess?

Posted by: cherry π at August 09, 2011 03:58 PM (OhYCU)

126 In a Senate full of dim bulbs, Murray manages to out-stupid them all. Low-wattage, hence very green.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 03:58 PM (AZGON)

127

How bout horse tranquilizers?

Bitch better not be bogarting the tranks.

Posted by: Ida McKinley at August 09, 2011 03:58 PM (LE4fl)

128

@48: "OT - from BBC, a list of the draconian lengths to which the violent Met police have reached:

0024: The Metropolitan Police say 685 arrests have been made in connection with disorder across London in recent days. Of those, 111 people have been charged.
Here's the breakdown of charges:
Burglary - 69
Public Order Act offences - 13
Assault on police - 2
Robbery - 3
Possession of offensive weapons - 5
Handling stolen goods - 6
Criminal damage - 1
Going equipped - 1
Drug offences - 3
Miscellaneous other offences - 8

An entire 111 charges. The CHP gives more tickets on a Monday night on the 405."

--------------------------

Let me roight off, they did. Didn't want me muckin' about wif all these lowlives.

Posted by: Ponsonby Bandersnatch, briefly detained for buggering a Cooper mini at August 09, 2011 03:58 PM (xy9wk)

129 How is Kerry suppose to serve on this committee during Yachting Season?

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 09, 2011 03:59 PM (i6RpT)

130 Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) has selected Sen. Patty Murray of Washington to serve as co-chair...Reid has also chosen Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.)

Three points, Slytherin!

Posted by: Gay-ass Sorting Hat Union Anthem at August 09, 2011 04:00 PM (AQQ8J)

131 Covering that nation with surveillance cameras has really paid off, I see.

Union cameras turned out to be too fuzzy to make out the faces.

Posted by: cherry π at August 09, 2011 04:00 PM (OhYCU)

132 72

Well, she is pretty hot for a senator.

Still.

Ace would hit that.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at August 09, 2011 04:01 PM (qiOph)

133 The BBC News, bringing the irrelevancy fresh to your browser, 24/7. Check out a featured story on their home page; what can you say when you want both parties to fail? Keeping It Real: The last Palestinian keffiyeh factory uses social media in the war against cheap Chinese competition.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 04:01 PM (AZGON)

134

Bitch better not be bogarting the tranks

A rubber room may be more your speed, Ida.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 09, 2011 04:01 PM (A0VTZ)

135 62 Yep, Hatch is scared shitless. Good pick. Put Chaffetz on the House committee so Hatch will have to match him in every move. OMG Y-Not, that would by hysterical. If that happened I'd beg for the committee talks to be broadcasted on C-Span (most unprecedentedly transparent gov't EVAH!) and watch, eyes glued to the TV; it would be almost as good as Shark Week. I have a soft spot for Hatch, for personal reasons. But I'm willing to admit he's made some ridic decisions and I like him better running scared. If he was our one "moderate" on the committee we'd be in good shape. The rest need to be squish-proof fisc conservatives and excellent communicators, so when talks break down they can clearly explain to the ppl why the Dems are full of it and prevent "incivility" from being pinned on our side. So Rubio, Paul, and Hatch all the way!

Posted by: LizLem at August 09, 2011 04:02 PM (lSuMX)

136 Government all up in the People's mix.

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 09, 2011 04:02 PM (KbEJl)

137 I'm guessing nothing comes of this "super committee" and they simply find a way to waive the second half of cuts while releasing the rest of the debt ceiling increase.

I'm thinking this is pretty spot-on, but it could get embarrassing based on who Mitch sends up there.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 09, 2011 04:02 PM (uhAkr)

138 The only thing that's likely to come out of this is tax increases, not spending decreases (real or fake).

Posted by: MlR at August 09, 2011 04:03 PM (Qsfvj)

139 I'm thinking this is pretty spot-on, but it could get embarrassing based on who Mitch sends up there. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 09, 2011 08:02 PM (uhAkr) Send up Kyle.

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 09, 2011 04:03 PM (i6RpT)

140 A rubber room may be more your speed, Ida.

NO MORE ROOM! NO MORE ROOM!!

Posted by: Mary Batshit Todd Lincoln at August 09, 2011 04:03 PM (LE4fl)

141 The UK is a lameass police state.Cameras everywhere,citizens unarmed,everyone's DNA on file yet they can't stop rioters.

Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2011 04:04 PM (IfDqm)

142

@139: "Covering that nation with surveillance cameras has really paid off, I see. LOL.

What a bunch of idiots."

Now see here, my good fellow; when we installed the motion-picture cameras, we expected that our fellow Britons would never stoop to bemasking themselves to conceal their identities. Simply not cricket, you see.

Posted by: Lord Nobby Dorrington-Smythe at August 09, 2011 04:06 PM (xy9wk)

143 Kerrey.

the walking talking epitome of fail. What a worthless c**t.

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 04:08 PM (x3YFz)

144

NO MORE ROOM! NO MORE ROOM!!

Cmon, Mary. Have a sense of proportion! Abe deserved a medal of honor for putting up with you.

Oh, and other speakers this weekend, include Haley, Tim Scott, Florida Gov Scott, Demint and...i think I'm blanking on someone.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 09, 2011 04:08 PM (A0VTZ)

145 George Orwell picks six alternates for the SuperDuper Committee on Debt: 1. Daddy Warbucks 2. Ritchie Rich 3. Charles Ponzi 4. Kreskin 5. A piggy bank 6. A hammer

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 04:08 PM (AZGON)

146 153 This web site is my breathing in, really fantastic pattern and perfect subject matter.

Posted by: at August 09, 2011 08:06 PM (t2slK)

ffs ban this IP

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 04:08 PM (x3YFz)

147 Is CAC going to give us a hope&fear Wisconsin thread? I've started drinking.

Posted by: toby928™'s cheetos stained cod at August 09, 2011 04:08 PM (GTbGH)

148 The UK is a lameass police state.Cameras everywhere,citizens unarmed,everyone's DNA on file yet they can't stop rioters.

Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2011 08:04 PM (IfDqm)

The government wants to bully the nonviolent. If you think about it (and are an autocrat), it makes sense - it's hard to track down criminals and stop rioters. But you can piss all over some poor working slob for not recycling. You get to feel like a big man and you don't risk getting hit by a spastic thug as he flails his arms.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 09, 2011 04:08 PM (uhAkr)

149 the walking talking epitome of fail. What a worthless c**t. Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 08:08 PM (x3YFz) Well if he has a c**t, that would explain alot

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 09, 2011 04:09 PM (i6RpT)

150 and...i think I'm blanking on someone.

Graham?

Posted by: toby928™ at August 09, 2011 04:09 PM (GTbGH)

151 Cmon, Mary. Have a sense of proportion! Abe deserved a medal of honor for putting up with you.

Nah, if Dad had had any brains he'd have locked her up a long time ago.

Posted by: Robert Not-Batshit Todd Lincoln at August 09, 2011 04:10 PM (LE4fl)

152

Posted by: George Orwell at August 09, 2011 08:08 PM (AZGON)

Where is Mr. Pyramid Scheme?

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 09, 2011 04:10 PM (A0VTZ)

153 If great (lol) Britain was sucked into the sea overnight, I'd wake up, yawn, throw an ironic grin toward whatever news source informed me, then get back to ending Obama's reign.

They're irrelevant. They made themselves so some 15 years ago. Tough shit, whatever.

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 09, 2011 04:12 PM (x3YFz)

154 You know, they say politics is show business for ugly people. I probably would have been safer on that stage than in the booth.

Posted by: Abe Lincoln at August 09, 2011 04:12 PM (AZGON)

155 Is CAC going to give us a hope&fear Wisconsin thread? I've started drinking.

Posted by: toby928Â™'s cheetos stained cod at August 09, 2011 08:08 PM (GTbGH)

Perhaps, but I am working.

Posted by: CAC at August 09, 2011 04:15 PM (U14+T)

156 I have a soft spot for Hatch, for personal reasons. But I'm willing to admit he's made some ridic decisions and I like him better running scared.

He seems really nice in person. But when I met him at the Lincoln Day dinner he just seemed very frail and it's clear it's more important to him to be a gentleman than it is to be a fighter. We need a fighter.

I'm not 100% convinced by Chaffetz, although I know people who really like him, but I think he'd be an upgrade over Hatch.

Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 04:16 PM (5H6zj)

157 Meanwhile, I just ordered a new chest rig from BDS Tactical.

Your Barackalypse Mileage May Vary! (YBMMV)

Posted by: Harry Tuttle at August 09, 2011 04:16 PM (I0th/)

158 _{Meanwhile, I just ordered a new chest rig from BDS Tactical.

Your Barackalypse Mileage May Vary! (YBMMV)}

Heh. I'm sure some BATF guy would love to have that laying on a table at his press conference.

Posted by: sifty the tearorist at August 09, 2011 04:20 PM (ECjvn)

159

Well, she is pretty hot for a senator.

Still.

Ace would hit that.

Posted by: eastvalleyphx at August 09, 2011 08:01 PM (qiOph)

Holy shit, and I thought I had dental problems.

Posted by: KG at August 09, 2011 04:24 PM (LD21B)

160 Heh. I'm sure some BATF guy would love to have that laying on a table at his press conference.

...and then he'd take it to use hisself for his next kitten stomping, Mexican arms-smuggling mission. Better that the issue gear, uh ...so I've heard.

Posted by: Harry Tuttle at August 09, 2011 04:24 PM (I0th/)

161 Why would the Repubs put a fall-guy onto the Super Committee? To save defense spending. The Dems get their economy destroying tax increases without hurting discretionary defense spending. We may even get rid of the TSA in the bargain. (But I don't think the Repubs are that smart).

Posted by: Cooter at August 09, 2011 04:24 PM (C06Qq)

162 151 The UK is a lameass police state.Cameras everywhere,citizens unarmed,everyone's DNA on file yet they can't stop rioters. Posted by: steevy at August 09, 2011 08:04 PM (IfDqm) Well, unless the rioters actually overthrow the government (unlikely), I think it's a perfectly serviceable police state. The money flows in, the citizens are frightened, the power players behind gates and guards - what's not to like? Most tyrants get it wrong,a nd are thus eventually overthrown and/or gibbeted. Don't *look* like a police state - cycle in and out figureheads loosely connected with votes, propagandize about how much you love everyone, etc. People should be scared but not terrified. Scared people cower, terrified people lash out. Mind you, I think they *should* be kicked out and replaced with a free state, but as police states go they're a *success*, at least until they let the useful idiots rioting and/or plotting Islamic takeover get out of hand.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 09, 2011 04:28 PM (bxiXv)

163 DeMint, Rubio, Rand Paul.

Posted by: Ken at August 09, 2011 04:36 PM (fFh95)

164 Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 09, 2011 08:28 PM (bxiXv)

If you look at the comments to the Daily Mail or Telegraph articles on the riots, the Brits are defending their gun bans. One guy even said, "You have to remember that if the good guys have guns, so do the bad guys!" I guess he doesn't thin bad guys have guns even when the bad guys don't.

Someone cited gun death stats for the US vs the UK (with the hysterical "look how many Americans die by guns!") and somehow left out statistics for other types of violent deaths that skyrocketed in the UK after the ban: stabbings, beatings, etc.

England has died and the Left has one. They are a nation of sheep.

Posted by: Rum, High Functioning Sociopath at August 09, 2011 04:38 PM (YxBuk)

165 Good grief, Reid picked Murray, Baucus and Kerry? That sounds like an insult.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 09, 2011 04:38 PM (/zYUh)

166 Goddammit I'm incoherent. The posts need an edit feature.

one = won

I guess he doesn't think bad guys have guns even when the bad good guys don't.

Posted by: Rum, High Functioning Sociopath at August 09, 2011 04:39 PM (YxBuk)

167
125 Well Wainright got dealt a pretty shitty hand by MacArthur

You said it, brother, although the proper reference is Dugout Doug, followed by a string of expletives.

Posted by: Ken at August 09, 2011 04:39 PM (fFh95)

168 Patti Murray is an excellent choice by Harry Reid. He can depend on her to follow orders explicitly. She always has and always will. There is no hint of an independent logical thought in her head.

Posted by: Arnonerik at August 09, 2011 04:42 PM (mmI0p)

169 Patty Murray? I'd hit that.

Posted by: Tommy at August 09, 2011 04:42 PM (GkYyh)

170 He seems really nice in person. But when I met him at the Lincoln Day dinner he just seemed very frail and it's clear it's more important to him to be a gentleman than it is to be a fighter. We need a fighter. I'm not 100% convinced by Chaffetz, although I know people who really like him, but I think he'd be an upgrade over Hatch. Posted by: Y-not at August 09, 2011 08:16 PM (5H6zj) He is; my mom worked for him in DC as a staffer when I was growing up, and so I got to know him firsthand. Love the man personally. (And lol do I have stories about him and Teddy Kennedy.) In his personal life he is pretty much beyond reproach; while that's important to me, especially in the age of tweetgates and tigger pics, I do have some concerns about his voting record. I think he'll toe his constituents' line now, but it might be too late to keep him in Washington; we'll see. It depends on how riled up the Tea Party is here. Personally I want Hatch to stick around a while longer; he is ten times better than Bennett was as far as being in tune with his constituents (though that's a really, REALLY low bar to set for anyone), and the idea of having two really green senators from our state makes me nervous. Forgive me, but I do like the idea of one of our senators being on big committees and having some seniority. Plus like you I'm still out on Chaffetz; he seems nice enough and hasn't flaked out yet, but I have no clue what his actual strengths are. If he really was for the people in his district he'd stay there and get experience, IMO; if he runs against Hatch I only see it as political posturing, which I'm not a fan of. So I'm basically sitting tight in my corner of the state and waiting to see how the races shape out; should be interesting.

Posted by: LizLem at August 09, 2011 04:46 PM (lSuMX)

171

Commisions, committees, what difference does it make? If the committtee makes a recommendation that is perceived to be contrary to the interests of the political class, it will be ignored.

Remember the Deficit Commission? Brushed off just like you knew it would be. Nothing but a delaying and obfuscation tactic. A really obvious one, an insult.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at August 09, 2011 04:51 PM (w41GQ)

172 What did we need a RINO for?

Posted by: bernverdnardo at August 09, 2011 04:51 PM (xXhWA)

173 England has died and the Left has one. They are a nation of sheep. Posted by: Rum, High Functioning Sociopath at August 09, 2011 08:38 PM (YxBuk) Have you seen their sideburns? They have been interbreeding with sheep for centuries.

"When guns are illegal, only criminals will have guns" is a concept lost on the left, and pretty much all of Europe is dominated by the left, in some places to a greater extent than in others.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 09, 2011 04:53 PM (bxiXv)

174 I'm most amused that so many commenters above believe the committee will deadlock 6-6. Your naivete is touching.

What y'all overlook--because it seems so outrageous, so illegal as to be almost unbelievable--is the likelihood of an outright bribe by the Dems.

See, this is too outrageous to even occur to the Republicans. Plus they know they'd probably get caught, and that would be the end of the GOP for another decade, as the Lying Media would be beating that horse forever.

But the Dems have no such qualms. They already used special, unconstitutional incentives to win the needed votes to pass Obamacare (the Nebraska deal?), so the precedent's been set for open "rewards" to a cooperative Republican.

If an open reward isn't attractive enough, there's always $20 million from Soros, funneled thru several cutouts so as to be all but untraceable. And of course even if provable, if the MFM ignores it, most Americans will believe it didn't happen.

Hey, I'd love to be wrong but I've seen this play too damn many times before.

Posted by: sf at August 09, 2011 06:46 PM (bJsQe)

175

I suspect Lisa Murderkowski will be selected. Or Olympia Snowe or Susan Collins.

Posted by: The Long Viewers at August 09, 2011 07:28 PM (XwXh6)

176

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