May 25, 2011
— DrewM The Senate Democrats don't have a budget yet they are trashing the Ryan budget. That means the only Democratic budget on the table is the one Obama submitted. It was not well revived.
Behold the beauty of bipartisanship!
No senators voted for President Obama's 2012 budget when it came up for a vote in the Senate Wednesday.A procedural vote to move forward on the president's plan failed 0-97.
Just minutes earlier, the Senate failed to advance Rep. Paul Ryan's (R-Wis.) budget plan by a vote of 40-57, a vote on which five Republicans voted against their party.
Democrats sought to put Republicans on the defensive over the Ryan budget, which they have described as extreme. But Republicans, who demanded a vote on Obama's plan, sought to flip the script after the later vote.
Mitch McConnell (who voted for the Ryan budget) gloated in an emailed statement.
“The President identified the problem more than a year ago when he said that ‘almost all of the long-term deficit and debt we face relates to the costs of Medicare and Medicaid.’ But Democrats in the Senate showed today that don't even want to talk about it. They rejected every single proposal to deal with it. They've chosen to ignore this crisis just like they ignored the last crisis. They're so focused on an election that's nearly two years away that they can't see the crisis in front of us.”
Of course the only news coming out of this is what a disaster the Ryan plan is and what a huge setback it is for the GOP who will never win another election or something. Meanwhile, President Dreamy's budget not garnering a single vote? Not a big deal or anything.
I don't know who Ace was talking about going on offensive over Medicare in the wake of NY-26 but it wasn't me. Still, I was talking to some folks about the same thing on Twtitter. We need to understand that Democrats are going to lie about the Republican plan no matter what it is. While it's important we sell our plan, we simply can't fight such demagoguery simply with calm, rationale appeals and math. We need to blend in a little fire and brimstone of our own. If it's remotely true, so much the better.
I'm thinking something like, "Democrats lied and Medicare died". Or, "The Democrats plan bankrupts Medicare in about 10 years. Then you'll have nothing".
We need to attack on a gut level in addition to appealing to the brain. If it involves scaring seniors and those nearing that age, fine. They, like the rest of us should be scared.
In case you're wondering, here are the Republicans who voted no on Ryan.
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AL), Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA), Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) and Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) voted against the proposal. Two other Republicans, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) and Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KY) did not vote.
Rand Paul voted no because he didn't think it went far enough. I think that's kind of weak tea since it's the most far reaching plan on the table. Vote yes and try and get more later. Voting no is just a vanity play.
Added: In addition to the Ryan and Obama budgets, there were two other options put up for a vote. These totals were sent out by Mitch McConnell's office.
· President Obama’s budget (S. Con. Res. 1: No senator voted for it. It lost 0-97. Leader McConnell voted against President Obama’s budget.
· House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) budget (H. Con. Res. 34): 40-57, 40 more votes than Obama’s budget. Leader McConnell voted for Paul Ryan’s budget.
· Sen. Pat Toomey’s (R-PA) budget (S. Con. Res. 21): 42-55, 42 more votes than Obama’s budget. Leader McConnell voted for Pat Toomey’s budget.
· Sen. Rand Paul’s (R-KY) budget (S. Con. Res. 20): 7-90, 7 more votes than Obama’s budget. Leader McConnell voted for Rand Paul’s budget.
Interesting thing about the Paul budget vote? Orren "Please Don't Dump Me Like You Did Bennett" Hatch was one of the 7 yes votes. Heh.
Still, it's pretty clear one party is serious about this stuff and one not so much.
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Scott, stop calling me. We had a nice fling last winter, but it is so over.
Posted by: wistfully fluffy at May 25, 2011 04:13 PM (SwkdU)
His last name is Paul. Just what were you expecting from that clan?
Posted by: Rod Rescueman at May 25, 2011 04:13 PM (HwE/1)
Posted by: Ace Tomato at May 25, 2011 04:15 PM (23p1u)
Posted by: Navin R Johnson at May 25, 2011 04:15 PM (HpT9p)
Posted by: ace at May 25, 2011 04:15 PM (nj1bB)
Posted by: ace at May 25, 2011 04:16 PM (nj1bB)
It's unimaginable that that woman went back to the Senate.
Posted by: JEM at May 25, 2011 04:17 PM (o+SC1)
Rand Paul voted no because he didn't think it went far enough. I think that's kind of weak tea since it's the most far reaching plan on the table. Vote yes and try and get more later. Voting no is just a vanity play.
Rand Paul is showing shades of his father a bit too much there I think. I hope he doesn't end up pulling that when its actually possible for us to get something like this passed.
Posted by: buzzion at May 25, 2011 04:17 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 25, 2011 04:19 PM (U9jjw)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 04:21 PM (CLYmB)
Posted by: AmishDude at May 25, 2011 04:21 PM (73tyQ)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 25, 2011 04:22 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2011 04:22 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 04:22 PM (Z+RJc)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at May 25, 2011 04:22 PM (u8JAM)
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AL)
Yuck, just........yuck. The outcome of that race still puts an ache in my balls since what happened was basically a kick to them.
Posted by: landofskybluewater at May 25, 2011 04:24 PM (XthHy)
"Democrats voting against the Obama budget argued the president had essentially abandoned it when he presented new proposals for reducing the deficit in March."
The Senate needs to consult the White House on this, because Obama hasn't dropped it. When the House Rs contacted Obama after his GWU speech, they were told to look at his old budget, as the CBO can't score a speech.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 04:24 PM (CLYmB)
Posted by: buzzion at May 25, 2011 04:24 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Cooter at May 25, 2011 04:25 PM (7aowq)
Just think we get to listen to Rand debate in about (6) Presidential election starting in 2016......
Good Times!
Wake me up when this country decides to grow a Pair!
Posted by: Jimi at May 25, 2011 04:25 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 04:26 PM (Z+RJc)
Posted by: palerider at May 25, 2011 04:27 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: alabama_y'all at May 25, 2011 04:27 PM (4XPEu)
'Cause that shit is taking up serious room in my garage. It looks like I'm going to start a farm or something.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 25, 2011 04:27 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Caiwyn at May 25, 2011 04:28 PM (IxBYN)
Posted by: Barack Obama (who makes Bush the Elder's puking on Japan's PM look good) at May 25, 2011 04:28 PM (XthHy)
Posted by: Dustin at May 25, 2011 04:28 PM (Q3nWV)
Posted by: CAC at May 25, 2011 04:28 PM (JEVge)
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AL)
she shouldn't even be in our caucus
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY)
the Ron Paul of the Senate
Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA)
officially a RINO to not count on
Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) and Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME)
typical
Sen. Pat Roberts (R-KY)
who the fuck is this?! *confused*
Posted by: YRM at May 25, 2011 04:29 PM (UzBwz)
"I know we haven't reached that point yet, but at what point do we actually get the pitchforks and torches out?"
Soon.....Be patient young GrassHopper!
Posted by: Jimi at May 25, 2011 04:29 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 04:29 PM (Z+RJc)
And how is that going to work if he can't get a bill like that signed?
He should support Paul Ryan's plan, because it's much better than the status quo. Simple as that. America is at the crisis level, and anyone who opposes fixing it is part of the problem. Rand Paul is part of the problem, even if he has a 'I am the best' plan with no chance.
This is important.
Posted by: Dustin at May 25, 2011 04:30 PM (Q3nWV)
Also, useless, since it failed.
It's what Sylvester McCoy once called a "gloriously futile gesture."
(maintaining my geek cred)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 25, 2011 04:30 PM (bxiXv)
Why not? Just because it doesn't go far enough doesn't mean it prevents more cuts down the road. If anything, that's what usually happens with these things. We didn't dig this deficit hole overnight, and we're not going to fix it in one election cycle with one piece of legislation.
If Ryan has a plan that starts getting Washington "used" to cutting entitlement spending, it will be that much easier to pass the next needed set of cuts. To vote against starting the ball rolling simply because it's not everything you wanted out of the gate is not good use of a legislative seat.
Posted by: Rod Rescueman at May 25, 2011 04:30 PM (HwE/1)
Posted by: Caiwyn at May 25, 2011 04:31 PM (IxBYN)
We are setting ourselves up for a lot of grief in 2012 and beyond if we tolerate what she did. And lo and behold, there is no functional point to Murkowski being a Republican on a matter of any controversy anyway. She's a democrat. Kick her out.
Posted by: Dustin at May 25, 2011 04:31 PM (Q3nWV)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 04:31 PM (Z+RJc)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 04:33 PM (Z+RJc)
Posted by: palerider at May 25, 2011 04:33 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 25, 2011 04:33 PM (U9jjw)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 08:30 PM (CLYmB)
Subtle sarcasm needs neon around here.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 25, 2011 04:34 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 04:36 PM (Z+RJc)
Even though it will be very painful, I have to accept and embrace that this kind of stupidity is self-correcting. Once we get past QE-infinity anyway.
Posted by: Meremortal at May 25, 2011 04:36 PM (Usk3+)
Posted by: t-bird at May 25, 2011 04:36 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 08:31 PM (Z+RJc)
I'm calling it right now, they will trot out Giffords at the 2012 DNC and she'll tell us to re-elect Obama, GURAN-FUCKING-TE IT, mark it down
nice woman, horrible what happend to her, THANK GOD she recovered, but look up her record she'd do it for them.
Posted by: YRM at May 25, 2011 04:37 PM (UzBwz)
He might have balanced the discretionary side in five years, but that's it. Few in the MFM will note his difference on this other than to potentially attack Ryan from the right. Otherwise he just joins the other 5 who "jumped ship".
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 04:37 PM (CLYmB)
Posted by: palerider
She's running for Senate in 2012. Bank on it.
Hey look, it's the Democrats favorite vegetable! (ok, that was tastless and pathetic, but it was a joke from the days after Jim Brady got shot).
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes... at May 25, 2011 04:38 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: YRM at May 25, 2011 04:38 PM (UzBwz)
Oh, come on, look at them...
Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2011 04:38 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 08:31 PM (Z+RJc)
If I was in her district... I'd be raising a ruckus.
They are not being Represented, and yet she's pulling a paycheck... try that in any other Job and see how fast you'd be put on Disability, and replaced.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 25, 2011 04:38 PM (NtXW4)
Every state has their own laws for handling this.
Posted by: Rod Rescueman at May 25, 2011 04:38 PM (HwE/1)
@51
You make a really solid point here! Something I'm always on about, and that is:
If the idiot seniors of this country want to allow themselves to be scared over something that doesn't really effect them, they should be shouted down. The GOP should be putting out ads pointing out how if you beleive what Democrats ads say then you are unpatriotic and stupid.
Anybody that votes based on how big their handout is should be exposed and ridiculed. The GOP are a bunch of Sissy's!
Posted by: Jimi at May 25, 2011 04:39 PM (JMsOK)
Posted by: Meremortal at May 25, 2011 04:40 PM (Usk3+)
Posted by: Prof. Heinz Doofensmirtz at May 25, 2011 04:41 PM (tukYc)
I was thinking the same thing. lol
Posted by: Berserker at May 25, 2011 04:41 PM (FMbng)
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) took Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) to task in a Twitter hashtag Wednesday over the GOP budget proposal that she contends will “end” Medicare.
On Tuesday, Ryan sent out a tweet in defense of his budget proposal:
"Path to Prosperity PRESERVES the Medicare guarantee; Partisan attacks & inaction guarantee Medicare's collapse"
And on Wednesday, Pelosi responded:
"#GOP 'message' on their bill to end Medicare may change, but the facts don't #EVENWHENYOUUSECAPS
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 04:41 PM (CLYmB)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2011 04:42 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 08:36 PM (Z+RJc)
Republican or Democrat?
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 25, 2011 04:43 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 04:43 PM (Z+RJc)
Posted by: The chicken at May 25, 2011 04:44 PM (ENKCw)
I'd raise my voice too. Pelosi rammed entitlements down America's throat, against our wishes, while boasting she hadn't read it yet, and we'd find out what was in it after.
I bet she hasn't read Ryan's plan either. She has no interest in really doing her job. She sees herself as ruler. But even then, she knows the plan is not to "end medicare". It's to make it sustainable. Her plan is to ignore the problem, but I suspect she hasn't read enough to understand just how serious the problem is. I wonder what she will say when the whole system collapses?
It's frustrating, even though that's what I expect from jokes like Pelosi.
Posted by: Dustin at May 25, 2011 04:44 PM (Q3nWV)
Posted by: CAC at May 25, 2011 04:45 PM (JEVge)
Posted by: Berserker at May 25, 2011 04:45 PM (FMbng)
No way an R would get away with this.
True, and I've never quite figured out where or when the American public internalized the double standard.
Some Jedi mid trick I guess.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 04:45 PM (JphsW)
Sorry. Unfortunately yes, and a number of people don't seem to realize it.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 04:46 PM (CLYmB)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 04:46 PM (Z+RJc)
Also how long will they give Gabby Giffords to recover?Forever???
Didn't you get the memo? It's Senator Gabby Giffords now. Stupid wingers!
Posted by: runningrn at May 25, 2011 04:46 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: Hammer at May 25, 2011 04:47 PM (hVGDL)
Posted by: Diehard Libertarian Whackjobs at May 25, 2011 04:47 PM (bCxgV)
Posted by: Prof. Heinz Doofensmirtz at May 25, 2011 08:41 PM (tukYc)
And Murkowski is from AK not AL. So its multiple fails. The Fail though belongs to Forbes, though since they have it in their article. Pathetic on their part.
Posted by: buzzion at May 25, 2011 04:47 PM (oVQFe)
Is there any kind of rule on how long a congresscritter can be incapable before they are replaced?
The rules are what they say they are. Expect some Weekend at Gabby's shit to go down at the Democrat convention where they trot her up on stage in and load up a pre-packaged script into one of those Roger Ebert Vagina-Mouth 3000 translator things. While she stares blankly into the audience, you'll get an earful of thinly veiled, "Don't let the Republican Teabaggers shoot Medicare in the skull like they shot me."
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 25, 2011 04:47 PM (lGFXF)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 04:48 PM (Z+RJc)
Didn't you get the memo? It's Senator Gabby Giffords now. Stupid wingers!
Posted by: runningrn at May 25, 2011 08:46 PM (ihSHD)
runningrn, QFC has the lobster tails on sale again for $5 and copper river salmon for $12. I bought both.
Posted by: robtr at May 25, 2011 04:48 PM (MtwBb)
@80,
"Some Jedi mid trick I guess."
I don't want Obama to have a second term, but after the collapse, it may turn out to be the best that could have happend to us, becuase we will have finally been able to force Democrats to take responsiblity for their Ideology.
Posted by: Jimi at May 25, 2011 04:48 PM (JMsOK)
Is there any kind of rule on how long a congresscritter can be incapable before they are replaced?
We don't need no stinkin' rulz!
Posted by: Democrat Demagogues at May 25, 2011 04:49 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 04:50 PM (Z+RJc)
runningrn, QFC has the lobster tails on sale again for $5 and copper river salmon for $12. I bought both.
Thanks, robtr! That's a new sale! We bought the Dungeness crab last Sat. for 5.99/lb.
Copper River Salmon for $12.00/lb--that's crazy good! I'll have to head over there!
Posted by: Democrat Demagogues at May 25, 2011 04:51 PM (ihSHD)
Voting NO shows he's TRUE to his PRINCIPLES!!!!
Well that's some bullshit right there.
It's disappointing actually, I was never a Rand Paul fanboy, but I thought he was going to turn out to be more of a Rand Paul: Senate Linebacker.
Boy was I wrong.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 04:51 PM (JphsW)
Posted by: Hank Johnson at May 25, 2011 04:51 PM (ENKCw)
Some Jedi mid trick I guess.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 08:45 PM (JphsW)
Evil, evil Jedi...
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 25, 2011 04:51 PM (bxiXv)
--I agree, but I think Rand is serious enough that if the Ryan plan was close to being approved by the Senate he would vote yes on it with reworking.
Posted by: logprof at May 25, 2011 04:52 PM (BP6Z1)
Posted by: runningrn at May 25, 2011 04:52 PM (ihSHD)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 25, 2011 04:53 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: logprof at May 25, 2011 08:52 PM (BP6Z1)
Rand Paul had is own plan that was also voted down, that may be why he voted no.
Posted by: robtr at May 25, 2011 04:53 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Marcellus Barackus at May 25, 2011 08:53 PM (6Lx5N)
Yes, yes you do.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at May 25, 2011 04:54 PM (bxiXv)
Copper River Salmon for $12.00/lb--that's crazy good! I'll have to head over there!
Posted by: Democrat Demagogues at May 25, 2011 08:51 PM (ihSHD)
Better go quick it was flying out of there.
Posted by: robtr at May 25, 2011 04:54 PM (MtwBb)
I don't see him on the "nay" list on either The Hill or Politico.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 04:54 PM (CLYmB)
We need to attack on a gut level in addition to appealing to the brain. If it involves scaring seniors and those nearing that age, fine. They, like the rest of us should be scared.
I don't need to scare seniors. I just want to know why the Democrats are pushing our kids over that cliff. FUCKERS.
My daughter is 12 and politically aware. She's going to remember these evil cocksuckers, I'll make damn sure of it - and she won't likely need much reminding when she's forking over her whole paycheck to Uncle Sam some day. Paul Ryan has the actual numbers for what this shit is going to do to our KIDS, and the Democrats lie like crazy while they do nothing about it because it's easier to do nothing to save their own jobs since they won't ever have to worry about this shit affecting them personally in any other way. They are evil, and they are pushing our kids over that Granny cliff.
Posted by: Beth at May 25, 2011 04:55 PM (5NfIh)
I don't see him on the "nay" list on either The Hill or Politico.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 08:54 PM (CLYmB)
He's not on the Nay list. He's on the Did Not Vote list
Posted by: buzzion at May 25, 2011 04:56 PM (oVQFe)
Congratulations to the Republicans of Alaska for electing a Democrat. But we already knew that about her cokeness.
And you heard it hear first...if you thought this year's budget silliness was bad...I have seen the future and it is one of clown cars as far as the eye can see.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 04:56 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: Beth at May 25, 2011 04:57 PM (5NfIh)
It's disappointing actually, I was never a Rand Paul fanboy, but I thought he was going to turn out to be more of a Rand Paul: Senate Linebacker.
2 words: AQUA BUDDAH!!1111!!
Posted by: runningrn at May 25, 2011 04:57 PM (ihSHD)
Rand Paul had is own plan that was also voted down, that may be why he voted no
I would hope that's NOT the reason he voted no. Otherwise Kentucky sent just sent a whiny four-year old to the Seante for 6 years.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 04:57 PM (JphsW)
Even Johnny McAmnesty regularly used the phrase "generational theft". What's it gonna take?
Posted by: Mediscare! at May 25, 2011 04:57 PM (D+phB)
Excuse me, Alabama would NEVER elect a perfidious bitch like that. That would be Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK).
Posted by: Beth at May 25, 2011 04:58 PM (5NfIh)
Posted by: CAC at May 25, 2011 04:59 PM (JEVge)
The House Republican budget reforms Medicaid and repeals and defunds ObamaCare. It contains trigger mechanisms for SS but it doesn't contain an actual plan. Even the Medicare reforms in that document aren't fully-fleshed, as they duty was* left to Ways & Means. That's the way the process works.
* "Was" since Camp decided not to write a bill until an agreement is reached, if ever.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 04:59 PM (CLYmB)
Impact at the bottom of the canyon.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 04:59 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 05:00 PM (Z+RJc)
Posted by: t-bird at May 25, 2011 05:00 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Marcellus Barackus at May 25, 2011 08:53 PM (6Lx5N)
Yes, yes you do.
Definitely a bitch.
Posted by: The Gimp at May 25, 2011 05:00 PM (SwkdU)
Posted by: rockhead at May 25, 2011 05:00 PM (ZMHGo)
An ad with a Reid look-alike pushing a cute little hopscotching kid over a cliff, perhaps?
Posted by: Beth at May 25, 2011 05:01 PM (5NfIh)
It's going to take a commercial with a bunch of cute kids working hard labor jobs to pay off the democrats and Obamas debt.
Posted by: robtr at May 25, 2011 05:01 PM (MtwBb)
That would be less raycess than a Barry...perhaps we could get a dingy Harry lookalike to steal candy from a baby.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at May 25, 2011 05:02 PM (D+phB)
Posted by: christopher pike at May 25, 2011 08:58 PM (GTbGH)
egshackly, Captain Pike. And thash why we're joining with Represhenanive Gabby Gifforsssh to re-elect Pressshhitdentssh Obaaahhhma.
Posted by: Mary Jo Buttafuoco at May 25, 2011 05:03 PM (lGFXF)
You may be approaching me.
Posted by: The Line at May 25, 2011 05:04 PM (D+phB)
I really need to read more closely.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 05:05 PM (CLYmB)
Fuck. Him.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 25, 2011 05:05 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 25, 2011 05:06 PM (1fB+3)
If true, that will be all. I don't want to hear another word about how he is different from the elder loon.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 05:07 PM (7utQ2)
Fuck. Him.
Surely he was saving Kentucky from some imminent problem...either that or busy writing his (inevitable) book.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at May 25, 2011 05:07 PM (D+phB)
Posted by: Socratease at May 25, 2011 05:07 PM (vaIln)
Posted by: AkRonin at May 25, 2011 05:08 PM (ZBHFC)
Of the republicans who voted no, why is everyone attacking Paul, the actual, you know, fiscal conservative of that group?
Because we expect to be buttfucked by RINOs
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 05:08 PM (JphsW)
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at May 25, 2011 05:08 PM (H+LJc)
Because, if one divines the signs, the nattering ineffectual stupidity of his father becomes more and more apparent.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 05:08 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at May 25, 2011 05:08 PM (dbYHP)
And, it ain't the first time he's shit on Israel.
http://tinyurl.com/3wqmb5j
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 25, 2011 05:09 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: tangonine at May 25, 2011 05:09 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 25, 2011 05:09 PM (kUaEF)
I don't think you know what "buttfucked" actually means.
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 25, 2011 05:09 PM (1fB+3)
I don't think you know what "buttfucked" actually means.
Sure I do, I spent 20 years in the Army.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 05:10 PM (JphsW)
Posted by: Cherry π at May 25, 2011 05:11 PM (+sBB4)
Fuck. Him.
What is RP's problem? He was at Bibi's AIPAC speech AFAIK, so I'm guessing he doesn't have a problem with Bibi and Israel per se. His problems with the Patriot Act and such could have been protested in other ways than boycotting Bibi's speech before Congress.
Does abject stupidity and poor PR run rampant in the Paul family?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 25, 2011 05:11 PM (c0A3e)
I believe the marketable term would be "out of control."
What do we know? On Sunday talk shows, they'll have the female senator from South Carolina calling for compromise.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 05:11 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 05:11 PM (Z+RJc)
reid really stabbed obama in the back. be a nice campaign ad pointing out obama is out of touch that even his own party soundly rejected his budget.
Posted by: chas at May 25, 2011 05:12 PM (m1nDy)
Seriously?
I'm telling you, Ryan's plan would 50%+ in all the polls if the GOP would stop being such gheyed up fucksticks and go balls deep supporting it or a plan similar to one.
We're 10 senators (or less) and a President away from initiating the only plan that has a fuckmonkey's chance of keeping the country from being flushed down a Chinese toilet. We can do this, dammit.
Posted by: Captain Blowme at May 25, 2011 05:12 PM (TCyyS)
I have no idea what the hell he was thinking on this one. I mean fucking democrats were cheering Bibi ffs, he should have been there, whether he agrees with Bibi or not. This was just stupid.
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 25, 2011 05:13 PM (6IReR)
I don't think you know what "buttfucked" actually means.
Sure I do, I spent 20 years in the Army.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 09:10 PM (JphsW)
You have to give it to him (no pun intended)... 20 years in the Army and you definitely know what BOHICA means.
Posted by: tangonine at May 25, 2011 05:13 PM (x3YFz)
Throw in a 'Sarah Palin made Amy Fischer do it' and you've got my vote.
Posted by: nickless at May 25, 2011 05:14 PM (MMC8r)
A combination of his pappy's "vanity vote" style continued via the 2nd generation, and the simple fact that his plan had no chance of passing the Senate either. The Senate is not a place to have the "100% all principles all the time" Republican - there has to be room for accomodation. The House handles the imaginable for us. The Senate is purely about what is possible. With the balance of power as-is, or even as it might be going forward, his vote is going to matter quite a bit in getting to 60 on legislation that we might all like.
Think of him as the anti-Collins, Snowe, Graham, et al. He might be the one vote that kills legislation that the base favors for purity / ideological reasons.
Hell, if Demint and Coburn are Yes votes, you have to wonder why Rand won't come along.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at May 25, 2011 05:15 PM (D+phB)
he should have been there, whether he agrees with Bibi or not. This was just stupid.
Yup, if for no other reason than to correct the perception in some quarters that the entire Paul clan are charter members of the Aryan Nation.
This was a self-inflicted wound for no plausible reason.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 05:16 PM (JphsW)
Posted by: chas at May 25, 2011 09:12 PM (m1nDy)
Well they still harbor resentment against people as Irish as he.
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at May 25, 2011 05:16 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: chas at May 25, 2011 09:12 PM (m1nDy)
Meh.
Barky did the same to himself when he took a mulligan on his budget
right after Ryan came out with his. No one seems to really care how
utterly inept and incompetent Barky is. His hate of America doesn't
bother too many, either.
America had a good run.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at May 25, 2011 09:14 PM (G/MYk)
It ain't over yet.
Posted by: tangonine at May 25, 2011 05:16 PM (x3YFz)
The Dems changed their minds about block grants once they discovered they could get more mileage out of going on the attack. As for accomplishing something on both issues, I'd love for it to happen but I'm not seeing it. Obama will keep pushing his "signature accomplishment" while handing out waivers to his friends.
And it's strange that I have not heard a single person talk about Ryan's budget and its repeal of ObamaCare and cuts to MediCAID. Not even Ryan talks about this. This shows that none of them really know what the serious problems are that have to dealt with.
The Dems attack Medicaid reform on and off but they prefer to talk about Medicare. Ryan has talked about it in speeches but he rarely gets asked about it anymore. But I'm sure the Dems will eventually get to those ads of starving women and children lying dead in the snow because he somehow killed Medicaid.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 05:16 PM (CLYmB)
I hope we can do well enough next year to make the votes of those other four dipshits academic.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at May 25, 2011 05:17 PM (GEPoZ)
It's the Welsh that I have always considered shifty. One has only to examine the lives of David Lloyd George and Catherine Zeta Jones to see what I am talking about.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 05:18 PM (7utQ2)
Agreed. I like Rand Paul, but when he does blatantly stupid shit like this, he makes it very hard for people to support him.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 25, 2011 05:18 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Ken at May 25, 2011 05:18 PM (dvQqE)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 05:19 PM (Z+RJc)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 25, 2011 05:20 PM (kUaEF)
We really do have nothing, don't we?
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 25, 2011 09:16 PM (RPYjQ)
Kinda sums up the last 4 years. You'd think the party of guns, cars, hot chicks, dangerous special operators, football (not that pussy soccer shit), NASCAR, beer and barbeque could come up with something better, but.... Nope. We get some asshole named Pawlenty.
Fucking hell.
Posted by: tangonine at May 25, 2011 05:20 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Ken at May 25, 2011 05:20 PM (dvQqE)
Posted by: izoneguy at May 25, 2011 05:20 PM (i6Neb)
No, I'm not going to let it go....You fuckin' A go sit and listen to allies, progress.
You have this ridiculous habit of pretending the rest of world doesn't exist.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 05:20 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 25, 2011 05:21 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 05:21 PM (Z+RJc)
Nope. We get some asshole named Pawlenty.
I was really, REALLY hoping for Pence. But if Perry's in, I'll take a look.
But no, we have nothing right now.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 05:21 PM (JphsW)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 05:22 PM (Z+RJc)
Seven years of college. Down the Drain.
Bonus points for catching the reference. Although, it is the quintessential Moron Lifestyle movie.
So maybe only a half point bonus.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 05:23 PM (JphsW)
Posted by: tangonine at May 25, 2011 05:23 PM (x3YFz)
What an Asshat.
You know whom I'm talking about.
Posted by: CatLady at May 25, 2011 09:23 PM (CyPWX)
*who. Never use "whom" without adult supervision.
Posted by: tangonine at May 25, 2011 05:24 PM (x3YFz)
If Ace is a Senator in twenty years, it will be downright biographical.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 05:24 PM (7utQ2)
Hell, I'd run, but I'm poor, ugly, and really pretty fucking mean.
Well, if you're also heavily armed, then you're my kinda guy.
You got my vote.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 05:25 PM (JphsW)
http://tinyurl.com/25jwm8l
Posted by: Lemmenkainen at May 25, 2011 05:25 PM (Iw4dM)
Fucking hell.
I'm with you on all of the above, but as I have stated before, and will reiterate: I will vote for stagnant stumpwater over the JEF.
We do this every 4 years, and it's the same dance. Perfect v. Good, ad infinitum. I'm not ready to support any candidate, but eating our own isn't the answer...except for Huntsman. He's not ours.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at May 25, 2011 05:25 PM (D+phB)
Sorry, I just don't have time to cover the 0-97 defeat of some silly budget and give round-the-clock coverage of upstate New York's stunning rebuke of everything (and I mean everything, I tell you...) the Rethuglicans Republicans stand for.
Tough choices, you know how it is. By the way... about budgets, do we even need budgets anymore? Won't Czars work even better with less muss and fuss?
And this "War Powers" shit - who came up with that?
Posted by: NPR's Mara Liasson at May 25, 2011 05:25 PM (thr9V)
Posted by: Horny Sailor at May 25, 2011 05:26 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 25, 2011 05:26 PM (U9jjw)
Oh stop,everyone despairs sometimes.If we really have given up we wouldn't give a shit about anything anymore.
What the hale we suPOZe to do, ya mo-ron?
Posted by: Stork at May 25, 2011 05:26 PM (RPYjQ)
Posted by: curious at May 25, 2011 05:26 PM (k1rwm)
I'm very sure he would rather be the gynecologist.
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at May 25, 2011 05:26 PM (H+LJc)
Seven years of college. Down the Drain.
Bonus points for catching the reference. Although, it is the quintessential Moron Lifestyle movie.
So maybe only a half point bonus.
I'm 71. Do me, Big Boy.
Posted by: Verna Bloom at May 25, 2011 05:27 PM (SwkdU)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 25, 2011 05:28 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 05:29 PM (Z+RJc)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 25, 2011 05:30 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: NPR's Mara Liasson at May 25, 2011 09:25 PM (thr9V)
Cross Eyed Mary finds it hard to get along/She's a rich man's poor girl and she'll do it for a song
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 25, 2011 05:30 PM (RPYjQ)
Posted by: tangonine at May 25, 2011 05:30 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 25, 2011 05:31 PM (kUaEF)
it really takes the starch out of your sails. Unless you're a psychopath.
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at May 25, 2011 05:31 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: yakima canutt at May 25, 2011 05:31 PM (plmW1)
It's called "principle," Drew. You should try some. If my vote had been the deciding vote, I'd've voted for it. Happy?
Now draft me, dammit.
Posted by: Rand Paul! at May 25, 2011 05:32 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at May 25, 2011 05:32 PM (H+LJc)
And now we have crossed the Animal House and Seinfeld streams.
Gozer comin' through....
[Choose Monty Python, Caddyshack, or Star Wars for next ref.]
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 05:32 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 25, 2011 05:33 PM (kUaEF)
He said after you see a few dozen sick ones
it really takes the starch out of your sails. Unless you're a psychopath
Yeah, for every, say, Jen Aniston, there are a few dozen Rosie O'Donnells.
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 25, 2011 05:33 PM (RPYjQ)
CHART OF THE DAY: Have You Seen The Spike In US CDS?
I'm sure Monty will lead with that tomorrow.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 05:33 PM (JphsW)
If you're gonna tangle with that girl, take a bat. She's meaner than she looks, and that is saying something.
Posted by: Rosie's 8th Grade Classmates at May 25, 2011 05:33 PM (D+phB)
Posted by: gm at May 25, 2011 05:33 PM (VhCkG)
I built a house for a gynecologist. He said after you see a few dozen sick ones
it really takes the starch out of your sails. Unless you're a psychopath.
I could tell a really disgusting story....
Posted by: jewells45 at May 25, 2011 05:33 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: Biden Talks 2012 at May 25, 2011 05:34 PM (CyPWX)
[Choose Monty Python, Caddyshack, or Star Wars for next ref.]
Caddyshack!
I'm sure Verna Bloom was something before electricity!
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 05:34 PM (JphsW)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 25, 2011 05:35 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Silky Johnson at May 25, 2011 05:35 PM (dbYHP)
Am I going to need a beer for this? Or perhaps should I just run screaming from the room like a Wisconsin democrat?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 05:35 PM (7utQ2)
What can I say? I just didn't think it was a big deal.
I don't either. Rand Paul just needs some better advice/handlers on approaching issues like this where he can get his point across but not look like a semi-jackass about it.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 25, 2011 05:35 PM (c0A3e)
Rosie sees the elephant specialist at the Bronx Zoo. He still hasn't caught on.
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at May 25, 2011 05:36 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 05:36 PM (Z+RJc)
I'm 71. Do me, Big Boy.
Ummm., thanks anyway. I'd rather stick needles in my eyes.
Admit it, you were intrigued by the idea when the movie came out.
Posted by: Mrs Wormer at May 25, 2011 05:36 PM (SwkdU)
I'm thinking more Plutoey, but whatever....
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 05:36 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: Ken at May 25, 2011 05:37 PM (dvQqE)
Wouldn't it be kind of goofy if he came into the exam room dressed as Mickey?
Hmmmm, I see a whole new fetish genre for my friends in the Valley.
'Scuse me, I need to call my banker.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 05:37 PM (JphsW)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 25, 2011 05:37 PM (kUaEF)
If you're gonna tangle with that girl, take a bat cheeseburger. She's meaner than she looks, and that is saying something.
Posted by: Rosie's 8th Grade Classmates at May 25, 2011 09:33 PM (D+phB)
FTFY
Posted by: tangonine at May 25, 2011 05:37 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 25, 2011 05:38 PM (U9jjw)
Meh. Happens all the time.
Posted by: West Virginia at May 25, 2011 05:38 PM (D+phB)
I think he would have an uphill battle for the nomination but it could be done if he follows the George Costanza plan and does everything exactly the opposite of what he did in 2008.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at May 25, 2011 05:38 PM (GEPoZ)
Admit it, you were intrigued by the idea when the movie came out.
No, I'm more of a "naughty librarian" kinda guy.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 05:38 PM (JphsW)
And what point is to be made by sitting out of Netanyahu's speech other than the "I look like an anti-Israeli nitwit" point?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 05:38 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 25, 2011 05:38 PM (RPYjQ)
Posted by: Ken at May 25, 2011 09:37 PM (dvQqE)
Especially ones that like to do sex to women.
Posted by: FUBAR at May 25, 2011 05:39 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: Ken at May 25, 2011 05:39 PM (dvQqE)
Posted by: Silky Johnson at May 25, 2011 05:39 PM (dbYHP)
This hurts the GOP more than most people realize. When we claim to be the national security party, people expect tough guys. Instead, they see Jonah Goldberg and Tucker Carlson.
For the POTUS candidate, they see Romney, whose first instinct when Sarah Palin is attacked is to side with her attackers. Big man there.
And I shouldn't have to say this, but no, getting bodybuilders to run doesn't help.
Posted by: Ken at May 25, 2011 09:37 PM (dvQqE)
You couldn't possibly have missed the point more even if you were blindfolded and locked in a closet.
Posted by: tangonine at May 25, 2011 05:40 PM (x3YFz)
Do you think if we agreed to call curious "Scoop," she'd shut the fuck up?
No, but it would be easier to take if she'd just change her name to "bi-curious"
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 05:40 PM (JphsW)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at May 25, 2011 05:40 PM (dbYHP)
Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 25, 2011 05:40 PM (6IReR)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 25, 2011 05:41 PM (kUaEF)
With $88.6T and rising in unfunded liabilities, I see no reason why the GOP should have avoided the question. Medicare and Medicaid will become the two primary divers of the debt before long. We also know from the Trustees' report that the date Medicare goes insolvent jumped from 2029 to 2024. Ignoring this issue isn't going to make it go away, and it's too bad that the Dems have decided to follow Obama's lead in giving no real solutions.
Ryan shouldn't need to be asked about it to talk about it. And Dems won't bother with MediCAID while they're working on MediCare and SS horror stories - which the fuckhead GOPers didn't bother to address, anyway.
He doesn't, and he talks about it voluntarily. If the other GOP members have forgotten about it, then it's there problem. As it is, they were all trained as to how to answer these questions and play offense and a majority of them decided to cower under their desks. As for Social Security, I really haven't heard the Dems cover it that much because it's not actually in the Republican proposal. From what I've heard, they're sticking to Medicare.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 25, 2011 05:41 PM (CLYmB)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2011 05:41 PM (TMB3S)
He has teh Joo powers: Krav Maga
Saturday nights in mid-town look like the opening scene in Big Trouble in Little China. It's crazy.
Posted by: toby928™ at May 25, 2011 05:41 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 09:38 PM (7utQ2)
How about: Screw this Kabuki theater, I'm going to do some of the Peoples' work instead.
Is there no one else in DC you can savage? No one more deserving than a libertarian who actually wants to reduce the size of government? Damn, the silly season has hit AoSHQ like Fat Man hit Hiroshima.
Posted by: Rand Paul! at May 25, 2011 05:42 PM (1fanL)
Posted by: Ken at May 25, 2011 05:43 PM (dvQqE)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 25, 2011 05:43 PM (kUaEF)
Am I going to need a beer for this? Or perhaps should I just run screaming from the room like a Wisconsin democrat?
Depends... okay so... many years ago I was a Red Cross volunteer at an Air Force hospital. I worked in the ob/gyn department. My job was to escort the patients to the room and get her chart set up for the doctor. So... I take this one lady back and set her up and go back for the next patient. About 15 minutes later the entire area was filled with the worst odor I have ever smelled with maybe the exception of a rotting dead animal. The nurse and doctor had left the room it was so bad. I asked around what happened and they said the lady I had taken back smelled horrible and even the doctor (who was no youngster) couldn't stand it. She ended up having a very advanced pelvic infection and was literally oozing stuff from her vagina and the smell was just rancid.
Posted by: jewells45 at May 25, 2011 05:43 PM (Z71Vg)
Since he had his own budget, I think it's petty.
Posted by: AmishDude at May 25, 2011 05:43 PM (73tyQ)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at May 25, 2011 05:44 PM (dbYHP)
I'm still waiting for proof that she has a big rack.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at May 25, 2011 05:44 PM (GEPoZ)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 25, 2011 05:44 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: motionview at May 25, 2011 05:45 PM (i+DU3)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 05:45 PM (Z+RJc)
Why doesn't he get this?: Senator Rudy Giuliani.
Posted by: AmishDude at May 25, 2011 05:45 PM (73tyQ)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 25, 2011 09:38 PM (U9jjw)
I know I'm probably going to be attacked for this, but no I unfortunately do not think so.
Posted by: buzzion at May 25, 2011 05:45 PM (oVQFe)
I'm still waiting for proof that she has a big rack.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at May 25, 2011 09:44 PM (GEPoZ)
Wait. What?
Posted by: AmishDude at May 25, 2011 05:46 PM (73tyQ)
Since he had his own budget, I think it's petty.
Posted by: AmishDude at May 25, 2011 09:43 PM (73tyQ)
So no way I could be calling attention to the fact that we're screwed, and we need to be doing more than even Ryan's plan calls for.
Nope. Just "my budget or nothing, cuz I'm teh awesome!"
Silly season.
Posted by: Rand Paul! at May 25, 2011 05:46 PM (1fanL)
Since he had his own budget, I think it's petty.
That was my thought upthread. He's being a four-year old if the reason he voted no was that his budget didn't pass.
That would be well beyond inmature if that was the reason.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 05:46 PM (JphsW)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 25, 2011 05:46 PM (kUaEF)
That will be you know who's scare anecdote in next year's SOTU about the evils of the Ryan Plan.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 05:46 PM (7utQ2)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 05:46 PM (Z+RJc)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 25, 2011 05:47 PM (U9jjw)
Wait. What?
Posted by: AmishDude at May 25, 2011 09:46 PM (73tyQ)
I'm guessing you missed the Christina Hendricks post yesterday.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at May 25, 2011 05:47 PM (GEPoZ)
Posted by: Ken at May 25, 2011 05:47 PM (dvQqE)
But what did she look like?I'm sure she is all better now....
Hell, I don't remember. My big question was, why in the hell did she wait so long? I have had pelvic infections and knew it right away. For Gods sake you would think her husband would have noticed the smell.
Posted by: jewells45 at May 25, 2011 05:48 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 09:46 PM (Z+RJc)
Thank you. Every time I see a post of hers, I will demand proof.
I'm somewhat a fan of the big racks. I guess that's unusual.
Posted by: AmishDude at May 25, 2011 05:48 PM (73tyQ)
Posted by: CoolCzech at May 25, 2011 05:48 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: CAC at May 25, 2011 05:49 PM (JEVge)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 05:49 PM (Z+RJc)
Sooooo was she hot, or....
Posted by: USS Diversity at May 25, 2011 05:49 PM (RPYjQ)
Posted by: Ken at May 25, 2011 09:47 PM (dvQqE)
Huh? I know Giuliani has done sex to several women, so he's out. But Petraeus? Isn't he married and faithful?
Posted by: FUBAR at May 25, 2011 05:50 PM (1fanL)
Uh, no thanks. He kinda cleared up whatever uncertainty remained about that after the reaction to the Koran barbeque.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 05:50 PM (7utQ2)
That reminds me...
Posted by: Lindsay Lohan at May 25, 2011 05:50 PM (73tyQ)
I put more stock in his transforming NYC from total shithole to decent place while holding public workers accountable and having to deal with an adversarial city council.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at May 25, 2011 05:51 PM (GEPoZ)
Remember Rule 1 (?): "there are no whimmen on the internet".
/But I do like the moniker of bi-curious, heh. She must have a few friends of that type,
. Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 25, 2011 05:51 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 25, 2011 05:51 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: AmishDude at May 25, 2011 09:48 PM (73tyQ)
Freak.
Posted by: CAC at May 25, 2011 09:49 PM (JEVge)
Perverted freak actually.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 25, 2011 05:51 PM (7utQ2)
Went to check on an old man down the street when I was fifteen because no one had seen him for a few days. He had cut his leg while boning fish and it was gangrenous. shudder
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at May 25, 2011 05:51 PM (H+LJc)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 05:52 PM (Z+RJc)
Posted by: steevy at May 25, 2011 09:52 PM (Z+RJc)
That reminds me...
Posted by: Lindsay Lohan at May 25, 2011 05:52 PM (73tyQ)
Went to check on an old man down the street when I was fifteen because no one had seen him for a few days. He had cut his leg while boning fish and it was gangrenous. shudder
Oh God... poor guy.
Posted by: jewells45 at May 25, 2011 05:53 PM (Z71Vg)
You name it,she has a friend to bring up.
Proof! I demand proof! Of the nekkid variety, of course.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 05:53 PM (JphsW)
My entire life has been centered around gynecology le taco, and except for all the required fluffing and shaving I'm forced to endure, the tips are very small for looking at that beast.
Posted by: Garson the Taco Master, Paris, France at May 25, 2011 05:54 PM (cwFVA)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 25, 2011 05:54 PM (U9jjw)
Posted by: buzzion at May 25, 2011 05:55 PM (oVQFe)
Nope, no friends this time, all her own experience. Going back to 7th grade, if I'm not mistaken.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at May 25, 2011 05:56 PM (GEPoZ)
Posted by: CAC at May 25, 2011 05:57 PM (JEVge)
Nope, no friends this time, all her own experience. Going back to 7th grade, if I'm not mistaken.
Hmmm, that's what I need. The obligatory 80s junior high yearbook pic. Big hair...big rack.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 05:58 PM (JphsW)
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 25, 2011 06:00 PM (90H1N)
I am guessing you might be off by about twenty years with this one.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at May 25, 2011 06:00 PM (GEPoZ)
I am guessing you might be off by about twenty years with this one.
Ah, then she's my wife's age.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 06:01 PM (JphsW)
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at May 25, 2011 06:02 PM (dbYHP)
No, you have to use a 2X4 or Metal...
Someone here taught Me that.
Posted by: Patio Furniture at May 25, 2011 06:02 PM (CyPWX)
I used to work for his wife. Now there is a dull and useless piece of shit.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at May 25, 2011 06:03 PM (JphsW)
That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
Posted by: Wooderson at May 25, 2011 06:06 PM (GEPoZ)
Posted by: Me, myself and irene at May 25, 2011 06:07 PM (5BENw)
As far as the Odip budget, I haven't seen a score like that since the Cornhuskers opened up last season against the Girls of St. Mary's. 97 -0 kick butt.
Speaking of which, why don't we get surprise off-season cheerleader picks, huh? I said HUH.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at May 25, 2011 06:11 PM (ldUCK)
Posted by: 8starsnorth at May 25, 2011 06:15 PM (trUjb)
Have you read the great piece of reportage, the book Force of Nature: The Unlikely Story of WalMart's Green Revolution? It describes how WalMart went from defending itself from attacks from every quarter, to the world's largest company in absolutely rabid pursuit of sustainability in every aspect of its operations. Greener than green.
It took a mindset makeover, and it happened from the top down. A fascinating read.
The Republicans seem to be in the same mode as WalMart was when it was under attack for stuff like sweatshop sourcing, locking night workers in stores, hollowing out small town main streets, making their cashiers go on Medicaid, and worse.
It is a great story about how WalMart came to see the green light, but suffice it to say that it has transformed the company is ways unimaginable at the start.
Republicans need some kind of a transformation like this, so that each and every one of them can shout from the hilltops, proclaiming most compelling good news in America today, that of how we as a society can be sustainable economically, by doing the right things, and swearing off the wrong things.
They need to be in lock-step on this. There is no other story to sell. To not be on this bandwagon is to be on a wagon going over the cliff.
Let the dems throw their brickbats. Let 'em dream up even more nightmarish campaign commercials. Let them get nasty, nasty, and nastier. Fuck 'em.
The script needs to be written so tightly, so compellingly, that the execution of the campaign is crystal clear and cannot be misunderstood. The campaign, the selling of the story, needs to equal the way the fiery spread of Islam rolled across the deserts of Arabia in the eighth and ninth centuries. All need to be brought on board as believers.
The Maine sisters and Scott Brown should be waterboarded until they get aboard. Fuck their reelection chances, what matters is the country's future, and if we just squish our way down the entitlements yellow-brick road, we will end up in a very dark place. And there will be, as they say, weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Posted by: Stormy Weather at May 25, 2011 06:24 PM (4sQwu)
Posted by: WeAreLegion at May 25, 2011 07:37 PM (yhY0H)
All our conservative heroes seem to have expiration dates. It makes me feel very sad and hopeless.
Posted by: 5th Level Fighter at May 25, 2011 08:40 PM (hfWKa)
267 - uh, that was Little Boy that hit Hiroshima; Fat Man was Nagasaki
Real science (and engineering): Little Boy wasn't even tested before its first use - that's how confident they were in the design (compare and contrast climate change "models" that can't even explain known, past weather patterns - yet suffice to justify the absolute regulation of all human activity on Earth).
And the story of how screwed up the Nagasaki raid was is very interesting. Technical malfunction (fuel line problem - on a plane that was serviced and inspected more than the Kentucky Derby winner), bad breaks with visibility at primary target, and Sweeney's decision in the end to defy orders and do a radar drop
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Posted by: Case at May 26, 2011 02:48 AM (0K+Kw)
I'm not seeing the benefit.
Drew, please point out to me when voting yes on something and then 'trying to get more later' has actually worked. What you vote 'yes' on becomes the baseline and is only reduced from that point. Sort of like 100 billion turned into 57 billion turned into a couple-hundred million.
Posted by: blindside at May 26, 2011 05:31 AM (3Uns6)
Now draft me, dammit.
Posted by: Rand Paul! at May 25, 2011 09:32 PM (1fanL)
^^^This. There is such a thing, you know. It's rare in politicians, but it does happen.
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