September 11, 2011
— Maetenloch Rather than putting up a long, maudlin post on 9/11 I thought I'd let these collections of photos do the talking for me.
Iconic 9/11 Pictures from Life Magazine




How the media has tried to sanitize 9/11 in the years since
Within a few weeks after 9/11 the media stopped showing any video or images deemed 'too raw'. Some of this was well-meaning but I think much of it came from a condescending view that this kind of imagery would only inflame the innate troglodyte nature of the American people and make us run out and attack the nearest random Muslim.
The 9/11 victims America wants to forget: The jumpers
Okay I have to quibble with the title - it's the American media that would prefer we forget about the people who jumped from the burning towers on 9/11. That's why you'll pretty much only see photos of the jumpers on blogs and non-MSM outlets. But otherwise this Daily Mail article is a very good one on who the jumpers were, why they jumped (many may have been unintentional), and what it was like for them on that day.

And never let us forget that nearly 3,000 innocent people were brutally and horrifically murdered. The media agreed among themselves to not show any corpses or body parts but here is a bit of the gruesome reality of what happened on 9/11/2001 [warning: disturbing photo]:
Now multiply this by 2,997 to get an idea of the horror.
Update: One of the best personal accounts of 9/11 I've ever read was Allahpundit's free-form rememberings on Twitter two years ago. Luckily Andy Levy captured it here: Remembering 9/11
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Posted by: Andy at September 11, 2011 12:45 PM (z6jMn)
Posted by: phoenixgirl if you are not angry you have forgotten at September 11, 2011 12:51 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2011 12:52 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: Y-not at September 11, 2011 12:53 PM (5H6zj)
I composed this on the first anniversary of 9-11, with the intention of creating a video to accompany it. I have never really gone past the initial stages for the video, as I still react so viscerally to the images — my somber mood returns to white-hot rage at what this 7th century cult of death wrought that day. So this song remains as tribute to all who lost their lives on that horrific day, and especially for those who ran towards the catastrophe and showed how selfless sacrifice will always ring eternally over death’s empty sting.
Posted by: goozer at September 11, 2011 12:54 PM (vQcKN)
Posted by: Y-not at September 11, 2011 12:54 PM (5H6zj)
And may the innocent victims, both alive and dead, find peace.
That is all.
Posted by: tcn at September 11, 2011 12:55 PM (hQX3k)
Posted by: Holger at September 11, 2011 12:55 PM (zaVyn)
Posted by: Y-not at September 11, 2011 12:55 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2011 12:56 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: stace at September 11, 2011 12:59 PM (lYlx9)
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2011 12:59 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: Osama bin Truck Monkey, TEArrorist Son of a Bitch at September 11, 2011 01:01 PM (jucos)
Posted by: someguy at September 11, 2011 01:02 PM (+VKKu)
It's too unimaginably horrible to question their actions
Posted by: kbdabear at September 11, 2011 01:04 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: stace at September 11, 2011 04:59 PM (lYlx9)
I doubt that was the media's plan to begin with, because I think they're too damn stupid to foresee a result like the formation of the Truthers just from not showing more pictures. Even so, they're more than happy to play along.
Posted by: blue star at September 11, 2011 01:04 PM (11cwq)
Posted by: someguy at September 11, 2011 01:05 PM (+VKKu)
Posted by: phoenixgirl if you are not angry you have forgotten at September 11, 2011 01:06 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: stace
The man from the NTSB who recovered the flight recorder from the plane that struck the Pentagon vividly describes walking over the carnage and bodyparts from the people on that plane. The "missile strike" story fabricated by that French guy is just more nonsense created to obscure the truth.
Popular Science, of all places, ran an extensive story debunking a lot of the Truther myths perpetrated to confuse the simple minded.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at September 11, 2011 01:06 PM (sJTmU)
But it is imperative that we publish pictures of every military coffin returning from overseas and harrass the family members with rude questions.
Posted by: MFM at September 11, 2011 01:07 PM (DUW4W)
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2011 01:08 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: someguy at September 11, 2011 01:08 PM (+VKKu)
Posted by: harrison at September 11, 2011 01:09 PM (MtuBU)
Posted by: mike at September 11, 2011 01:10 PM (uVOkf)
Posted by: mike at September 11, 2011 01:12 PM (uVOkf)
They take a side, you just take pictures
Posted by: kbdabear at September 11, 2011 01:13 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2011 01:15 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 01:16 PM (xdOL4)
Posted by: ontherocks at September 11, 2011 01:16 PM (HBqDo)
Goddammit.
Fucking Goddammit.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 05:12 PM (xdOL4)
Amen. I realized today that I may have this 9/11 memorializing thing backwards. Some people use this day to mourn and remember. I find that I mourn and remember during the other 364 days of the year. On 9/11, I tend to get pissed. Oh well...
Posted by: joejm65 at September 11, 2011 01:16 PM (UZuc4)
Posted by: someguy at September 11, 2011 05:08 PM (+VKKu)
Wow! Doesn't that just say it all......
Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2011 01:17 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Tjexcite at September 11, 2011 01:17 PM (/QtpF)
Posted by: mike at September 11, 2011 01:17 PM (uVOkf)
Posted by: phoenixgirl if you are not angry you have forgotten at September 11, 2011 01:18 PM (eOXTH)
That's understandable. I don't think they should be called "jumpers" (as they are in that article), because we really don't know if they jumped. We only know that they fell. God bless those poor people and all of the victims and their families.
Posted by: Y-not at September 11, 2011 01:20 PM (5H6zj)
I had not seen it, either. But, I'm one of those people who think that all of this visual record should have been front and center these last 10 years. We must never, ever forget. And those who are politicizing this are far worse than those who simply choose to forget, or make it fuzzy.
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 01:20 PM (/ybwc)
Posted by: someguy at September 11, 2011 05:08 PM (+VKKu)
Oh, my. I hope Drudge puts it up front & center, maybe tonight or tomorrow.
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 01:21 PM (/ybwc)
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2011 01:22 PM (fyOgS)
I don't think of it as suicide. They were leaping into God's arms and hoping for a miracle.
Posted by: Y-not at September 11, 2011 01:22 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at September 11, 2011 01:23 PM (08Pe8)
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2011 05:22 PM (fyOgS)
I would think there is something specific done at Pearl Harbor every December 7.
Posted by: buzzion at September 11, 2011 01:26 PM (GULKT)
I hope that when my day comes, that I'll go down swinging like these guys did.
It would also make one hell of a Mythbuster's show, just to see if it could be done.
Posted by: RayJ at September 11, 2011 01:26 PM (LYiL5)
Again, it's brutal to watch but incredibly important.
Posted by: alexthechick at September 11, 2011 01:26 PM (Gk3SS)
We have overwhelming evidence-- including the newly-released tapes from the F.A.A. and A.A. and museum displays which feature parts of the planes. A few of the survivors from in and around the impact zone in the South Tower had pieces of the plane in their offices and there are scores of people who saw and/or felt the planes hit. If they don't believe in spite of all that, that's on them.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 11, 2011 01:26 PM (o2lIv)
Steevy, not soon enough for me.
Mecca should already be glass.
Posted by: goozer at September 11, 2011 01:27 PM (vQcKN)
Posted by: Racefan at September 11, 2011 01:29 PM (VJBDN)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 11, 2011 01:30 PM (0fzsA)
Amen. I realized today that I may have this 9/11 memorializing thing backwards. Some people use this day to mourn and remember. I find that I mourn and remember during the other 364 days of the year. On 9/11, I tend to get pissed. Oh well...
Posted by: joejm65 at September 11, 2011 05:16 PM (UZuc4)
I'm pissed beyond white hot rage and trying not to cry. At some point soon I will mean mug a Muslim.
I'm not stupid enough to get physical but I want them to know that they are unwelcome.
They are complicit in their silence and they can all burn in hell.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 01:31 PM (xdOL4)
Yeah, I can't do that. It's too hard. Those poor people. I don't know how their survivors can go on day to day with that memory.
Posted by: Y-not at September 11, 2011 01:34 PM (5H6zj)
Flag's out front. Bright sunny Seattle day.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 11, 2011 01:36 PM (btzPD)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 11, 2011 01:37 PM (o2lIv)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 11, 2011 05:30 PM (0fzsA)
Hell, I'm still mad about Munich, and all the other atrocities in the subsequent decades. I've always made sure my kid knows about this stuff too.
Posted by: stace at September 11, 2011 01:37 PM (lYlx9)
Yeah, I can't do that. It's too hard. Those poor people. I don't know how their survivors can go on day to day with that memory.
Posted by: Y-not at September 11, 2011 05:34 PM (5H6zj)
I also remember hearing the recordings of people calling home from the hijacked airplanes and leaving farewell messages to loved ones on their answering machines. I was struck by how calm and almost soothing their words were as they said their goodbyes. I wonder if Krugman thinks they're fake heroes, too?
Posted by: joejm65 at September 11, 2011 01:39 PM (UZuc4)
Short version: though they weren't dancing and handing out candy, the French were every bit as giddy as the Palestinians about the blow made against the Great Satan. The whole notion that the Chimpy McBushHitlerBurton squandered international goodwill is a crock of shit.
Fuck Europe.
Posted by: Herr Blücher at September 11, 2011 01:39 PM (uLX+x)
Posted by: joejm65 at September 11, 2011 05:39 PM (UZuc4)
Krugman is a fake human, so I don't give a shit what he has to say.
Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2011 01:42 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 11, 2011 01:42 PM (lNGfM)
I'm not here to defend Islam. But go back and read what you just wrote.
Posted by: fiatboomer at September 11, 2011 01:43 PM (4Nrdo)
When I look at those pictures, I don't think to myself, "We need a mosque to really spruce the place up."
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at September 11, 2011 05:42 PM (lNGfM)
We are living in truly fucked up times.
Goddamned muslims.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 01:47 PM (xdOL4)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 11, 2011 01:47 PM (o2lIv)
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 11, 2011 05:47 PM (o2lIv)
I just finished watching that and came back to find your post.
Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2011 01:49 PM (X6akg)
This is an excellent article about the sanitizing of 9-11. The link is in my name. I can't do tinyurl.
Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at September 11, 2011 01:51 PM (6IV8T)
I'm not here to defend Islam. But go back and read what you just wrote.
Posted by: fiatboomer at September 11, 2011 05:43 PM (4Nrdo)
Blow me. If you have a problem with me be up front about it now.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 01:52 PM (xdOL4)
Posted by: moki at September 11, 2011 01:54 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2011 01:55 PM (PqyOZ)
Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at September 11, 2011 01:57 PM (6IV8T)
Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2011 01:59 PM (lh7Yc)
Posted by: Paul Krugman's Mangy Cat at September 11, 2011 02:02 PM (xXvOQ)
Brian Clark and Stanley Praimnath
Lt. Col. Ted Anderson and others
Todd Beamer and fellow passengers
Ladder Co. 6
FDNY Battalion Chief Orio Palmer
Rick Rescorla
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 11, 2011 02:04 PM (o2lIv)
protests and american flag burning for 9-11-11
but also protesting the flag burning is a group of muslims actually saying Stop it , it is disrespectful etc.
a little helpful to my soul.
some
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 02:07 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Paul Krugman's Mangy Cat at September 11, 2011 06:02 PM (xXvOQ)
Is that you Average Joe?
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 02:07 PM (xdOL4)
Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2011 02:08 PM (lh7Yc)
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 02:08 PM (h+qn8)
I have been angry all day, it helped to see that their are a handful of muslim moderates that really exist and don't like the terrorist.
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 02:11 PM (h+qn8)
Sorry, too little, too late, imo. If I had lived in Torquemada's time, I would have turned my back on the Catholic church in a very emphatic way. The fact that these folks don't do more is completely unacceptable to me. Calling these lunatics disrespectful is like asking a cockroach to please leave. 100% ineffectual.
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 02:12 PM (/ybwc)
Posted by: Steph at September 11, 2011 02:13 PM (C7YP+)
this morning my eyes were filled with tears while they were reading the names and telling what the names meant to them, later i was filled with rage at what happened to our great Nation....... i just listened to the most peaceful and laid back song of all time. Bougainvillea,
well, my heart is still filled with rage and i want ever get over it......
Posted by: Racefan at September 11, 2011 02:14 PM (VJBDN)
as this is something i have asked for for 10 years i cannot just ignore it when it actually occurs.
He said: 'I'm a Muslim. What they're doing is bringing shame on all Muslims.This is not part of the teachings of Islam.
'Islam is all about peace, but what they want to do is hate other people
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 02:15 PM (h+qn8)
but heck any chance for someone to stand up and try is at least a start.
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 02:17 PM (h+qn8)
If you want to get pissed off more . . .
So, in the ruins of a building reduced to rubble in the name of Islam, a temple to Islam will arise.
Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2011 02:17 PM (lh7Yc)
that;s not on me but their own behavior across the globe!
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 02:18 PM (h+qn8)
Yeah, I'd say if that's their intent, they're doing it wrong. Islam seems to be first and foremost about oppression.
Posted by: Y-not at September 11, 2011 02:19 PM (5H6zj)
He said: 'I'm a Muslim. What they're doing is bringing shame on all Muslims.This is not part of the teachings of Islam.
'Islam is all about peace, but what they want to do is hate other people
Well, yeah, willow, and I do understand what you are saying. Living in LA, I know Muslims who are decent people raising decent families. But that canard "Islam is all about peace" can only be spoken either as an outright lie or by someone who has never read the Quran and the teachings of Muhammed. It is simply NOT true.
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 02:20 PM (/ybwc)
Charles Spirochete JohnNoStones has the little green footballs (a scatological reference that he won't admit to) bouncing between the twin towers. What could be more solemn then that?
Posted by: Public Service Message at September 11, 2011 06:16 PM (IhHdM)
--Ugh. LGF used to have that cool reeeeeeaaaaalllllllllly long Cox and Forkum cartoon every 9/11. Much better than what you mentioned. . . .
Posted by: logprof at September 11, 2011 02:20 PM (lh7Yc)
Posted by: Marybel at September 11, 2011 02:21 PM (Hic+o)
Posted by: EROWMER at September 11, 2011 02:22 PM (KJDwX)
I've pretty much been avoiding the 9/11 threads because I don't trust myself to keep an even keel. It still generates an unholy fury in me all these years later, so I'll just stick with my standard 9/11 prayer.
Prayers for the fallen
Ammo for the warriors
Never forget
Never forgive
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 11, 2011 02:22 PM (wPbwV)
yeah a huge issue.
as it is written in such a way to deny it's basic murderous intent is to not be a good Muslim.
quite a quandry and ?? what is the answer to that
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 02:24 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 06:12 PM (/ybwc)
well said....... sometimes ya gotta put your foot down and say enough is enough...........
Posted by: Racefan at September 11, 2011 02:25 PM (VJBDN)
Posted by: NotAMolly Hobbitton resident at September 11, 2011 02:26 PM (ADJFU)
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 02:26 PM (/ybwc)
However, I do not see how we can eliminate Islam. I think the best we can do is counter it and contain it.
Posted by: Y-not at September 11, 2011 02:27 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: NotAMolly Hobbitton resident at September 11, 2011 02:28 PM (ADJFU)
Posted by: Bill at September 11, 2011 02:29 PM (cQ6oO)
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 02:31 PM (/ybwc)
I mean what hate at whom? those that died>?
their constant excuse of our support of Israel.
what's their excuse then for africa? Indonesia, Beslan?
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 02:34 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: EROWMER at September 11, 2011 06:22 PM (KJDwX)
Bombs. Lots and lots of bombs.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 02:36 PM (xdOL4)
I think most of the objections are to invading the privacy of fallen soldiers' families while they are grieving. I haven't heard many complaints about photos of combat casualties, although of course one could easily make the case that focusing on those could demoralize our troops and make them ineffective, risking lives.
As for the 9/11 imagery, the images of people falling are not gruesome, nor would be images of the airplane seats and wreckage, properly framed. Listening to the 9/11 re-broadcast on MSNBC (of Couric et al), I was amazed by how detached they were, especially at first, as if it never occurred to them that there were people in those planes.
Posted by: Y-not at September 11, 2011 02:37 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Peaches
It is the peace of the slave. It is the peace of submission.
In Christianity, submission to Christ is not the submission to slavery, but the recognition that the pride of worldliness is a false shadow of the true Glory of God. A perfect example of this "pride" today is the haughty vulgarity of the columns written by Pauly Krugnuts and Kathleen Park-whore. There is no humility or seeking of reconciliation among their fellow citizens, but only hateful disdain.
Submission or acceptance is the effort to live a Life in Christ, and to witness for Him in this world, to be charitable and kind, to friends and strangers both. For a Christian, to wear the crown of peace can also mean to wear the the crown of thorns. It can be a very rough personal road.
For a Muslim, submission means to become an obedient servant to a religion and worldly leaders that demands total adherence to its beliefs. In the strictest Islamic countries (such as Saudi Arabia), there are religious police dedicated to policing Muslim virtue, mainly by bullying women. This is not freedom or charity or an expression of conscious virtue, but a religion controlled by fear. It is the religion of the angry mob, or as our betters have described it recently, the "Arab Spring". Islam at its most naked - an angry surly mob looking for a fight.
In the times of Saladin, he was for a time a held as a hostage in the Christian Crusader held parts of present day Israel. He was astounded that Christian women would speak on their own and sometimes linger and talk after their husbands went elsewhere.
It is always comically appalling to me that modern Western women, of all people, would knowingly give any aknowledgement or comfort to Islam, because it is and always has been slavery for women. It speaks broadly of their ignorance of culture and history. There is a significant Muslim community in my town (Columbus), mainly Somalis, and it appalls me when I see their women in public in the full burkha, covered from head to foot. It is repellant and frankly un-American to treat anyone this badly in public - and it is certainly NOT freedom.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at September 11, 2011 02:42 PM (sJTmU)
I'm trying to fight my own rage.
I should do that by myself . not make everyone here come along for the ride.
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 02:43 PM (h+qn8)
I was a teenager during the Viet Nam War. Every night, America ate its dinner while watching b&w footage of the unbelievable carnage over there. I truly believe that had a lot to do with all the anti-war protests and activity that went on. And I think it was "lesson learned" for politicians of every stripe. If they don't show it, most Americans will not seek it out and continue to stoke their outrage.
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 02:44 PM (/ybwc)
I should do that by myself . not make everyone here come along for the ride.
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 06:43 PM (h+qn
Sweetie, don't apologize here. You're one of the good guys and much treasured, willow. Work it out right here with those who love you. And don't take my push-back as criticism of you, because it is most definitely not. We have this little community for a reason. I, personally, would be lost without it.
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 02:46 PM (/ybwc)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 11, 2011 02:53 PM (btzPD)
Dude,
Genocide and war are two different things. Most people here are supportive of a much more aggressive war against Islamic militancy, but a vanishingly small number agree with calls for genocide.
Grow up.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative)) at September 11, 2011 02:54 PM (LH6ir)
That is a damn good question, Skook.
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 02:59 PM (/ybwc)
Posted by: NotAMolly Hobbitton resident at September 11, 2011 06:26 PM (ADJFU)
Speaking of which, did anyone notice that his wife was wearing a crescent shaped brooch of stars on her cocktail dress at the ceremonies this morning? This crew is all about symbolism, so this was no "I wasn't thinking about any such thing". Who wears a gaudy piece of jewelry to a memorial service anyway?
Posted by: museisluse at September 11, 2011 03:03 PM (4Lj43)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at September 11, 2011 03:03 PM (btzPD)
Posted by: cantankerous at September 11, 2011 03:12 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Fritz at September 11, 2011 03:46 PM (FabC8)
#31 "The New York City Coroner's Office has classified all killed at the World Trade Center as murder. "
And rightly too. Which is why I wish the media would stop referring to those 3,000 people who "lost their lives" on 9/11. We don't use that pansy formulation for any other murder victims, no matter how many. Matthew Shephard didn't "lose his life" on that barbed-wire fence; Ted Bundy's victims didn't "lose their lives" when he turned his attention to them; they were all MURDERED, and we say it with confidence. With 9/11, though, it's all soft-focussed, as if these people were just in the way when a tornado blew through town. Nobody's fault, just as you can't blame a storm or a tidal wave - they were just "lost" somehow, nobody can quite say how. Makes me mad as hell.
Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at September 11, 2011 04:41 PM (jgkJo)
Posted by: Kathysaysso at September 11, 2011 04:48 PM (7nu1g)
Posted by: rich at September 11, 2011 04:53 PM (yC+Oc)
Posted by: rich at September 11, 2011 04:54 PM (yC+Oc)
The image of the WTC jumper in a superman dive is especially unnerving - he's wearing a business suit instead of a cape and he's not flying, he's falling to his death.
Posted by: 13times at September 11, 2011 05:32 PM (h6XiD)
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Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2011 12:44 PM (fyOgS)