1 Can we get the Democrats to flee CA to IL?

2 >>This is the second state cleared of Democrats. If we can get all state Democratic legislators to flee to Illinois, the other 49 states will be in a lot better shape.

Funny.

3 When the Republicans are in the minority why do they never cut and run to kill a quorum?

This shit needs to be stopped hard.

Governors, grow some balls and find a honey badger

4

seal off the borders to Illinois, after all the state dems flee there.

I would think that Republicans should probably post police at the parking lot exits outside of each state capitol.

Remember when we were called sore losers after 2008 for not supporting every obama initiative?

5 Not one set of balls among the whole.

6

Flight of the Fleebaggers Part Deux!

7 Okay, it's getting close to the time for that "nuclear option" where the Repubs break up the budget into budget and non-budgetary pieces, so they can vote without Demotard presence. This is a hill upon which to die, for Walker.

8 Sounds like a good time to bomb Illinois.  Not that there ever isn't one.

9 What's the bag limit on a fleebagger in Indiana and Wisconsin?

10 If we can get them all to run to Canada, then we'd have something to talk about!

11

This is democracy at work.*

 

_{*As taught in public schools}

12 Hmm. Maybe the rest of the states should lock up their Dems right now before they get away.

13 8 Sounds like a good time to bomb Illinois.  Not that there ever isn't one.

Nuke 'em from space.  Just to be sure.

14 Look, Rush is usually full of himself, but he's right when he says that the Democrats are showing what is really important to them. The collective bargaining and mandatory union dues are the lynchpins that keep the whole runaway train connected.

15 If Illinois' governor had an ounce of integrity he'd extradite, but he doesn't so he won't.

16 Can you people come get these scumbags and take them home we don't like them fouling our state.

17 Ok, what does IN law say about legislators that are absent? Are they removed/replaced after a certain period of time?

18

I hate Illinois Nazis Democrats.

^{Apropos to nothing, just seemed a good time for the quote.}

19 Give me some knowledge, how many times has this occured in the history of the Republic?

20 Can they manage to find a way to get the Democrats - starting with our idiot Governor-tard - to flee Massachusetts as well?

"Remember when we were called sore losers after 2008 for not supporting every obama initiative?"

Yep - vividly.  Funny how the media ain't screaming that meme now, eh?

21 Round them all up and execute them.

22 Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2011 12:30 PM (AZGON)

I think there's a lesson here for all Republican controlled (but short of a quorum) legislatures:  Break your bills down as small as possible (it's a roll-call vote, you can have more than one in a day), so that your controversial bills don't need quorum.

If you think you can shame them into staying by attaching those things to budgets, you're sadly mistaken.  Our FEDERAL congress hasn't passed a budget for two years, why would State Dems feel any remorse?

23 They call themselves "Democrats" but refusing to debate and vote is fundamentally un-democratic.

Democrats are to democracy as global warming is to the scientific method.

24

Funny that if you look at that inflow/outflow map from the recent ONT you'd see lots of people leaving Illinois, I guess the only  people moving there are Democrat state legislators. Kasich should just go ahead and put the Ohio Democrats under house arrest.

25 How you know we're winning: When the "temper tantrum" form of government is all the libs have left.

26 1 Can we get the Democrats to flee CA to IL?

Excellent idea.  Send all the Dems to IL, then nuke it from space. 

27

Okay, it's getting close to the time for that "nuclear option" where the Repubs break up the budget into budget and non-budgetary pieces, so they can vote without Demotard presence.

This is a hill upon which to die, for Walker.

no, he doesn't need to. Instead he can just have the state legislature vote on other bills that don't need quorum. Like ID needed to vote, etc. Other bills that dems hate and will have to show up for if they want to prevent them from passing.

Time is on walker's side. If they remain out of the state, he will begin layoffs, if they come back the cuts and collective bargaining limitations will be voted on and passed.

He doesn't need to resort to trickery. He's gonna win either way.

28 We need to shell their boats and ports.

29 Just put Rush on.  He was talking about this and I almost thought he was talking about Wisconsin.  He said they have to go to a state with a democratic governor or they will be arrested?

30 he's right when he says that the Democrats are showing what is really important to them.

This. I hope more Dems pull this shit and that the MFM keep sounding the trumpet like they're heroes. That would backfire nicely!

31 They're shitbags but they're not afraid to stand by their convictions. If only the Republicans, who are on the right side of issues, had half the balls the Democrats have...

32 Erg wept.

33

Un-fucking-real. 

This is the only bad thing to come out of Texas (other than the Cowboys) - that time their Dems fled to OK.  Or was that just because OK sucks?

34 If this is the way they want to play it, where and if possible, quorum rules ought to be changed. If you want to take your ball and leave, fine. Don't expect that you can get your way by that route. And here they're always telling us being a legislator is public service, at least on par with military service according to one of the scrunts whose name escapes me. /I know rule changes probably fall under the same rules, but damn!

35 Couldn't the governor hire bount hunters. Kinda like Darth Vader did to get Han Solo. I had to use that analogy.

36 Don't reload...retreat

37 They need to go to a state with a Democratic governor... This says a lot to me. Does Libya have a Democratic governor? I'll buy their plane tickets personally.

38 Of course the Democrats are going to do whatever it takes to stop the Republicans. Why shouldn't they? They're hardly ever held accountable; they having nothing to lose.

39 To democrats, representative democracy is fine, as long as their side wins elections.  If not, thuggery is the alternative.

40

M. Daniels won't f*ck around with this pigfilth.

He's puny but he's also mighty and has a backbone when push comes to shove.

41

When Mitch Daniels was elected here in Indiana, the State was in such a fiscal mess from the previous 4 democratic administrations (IE: Bayh, O'Bannon) that it was said by the Indianapolis Star "Whoever wins this Gov. race will lose because of the fiscal mess they will inherit and the choices they'll have to make." Daniels navigeted that mess very adroitly and if he hadn't Indiana would be in a worse financial deficit than Wisc. is now. By comparison Indiana looks fiscally sound when compared to almost any other midwestern state. The cost? The ire of Democrats and Unions, especially the teacher's union. The rest of the State taxpayers pretty much remember what he inherited and are grateful for his skill as a politician that has kept Indiana from the bankruptcy it was headed for.

42

Look, Rush is usually full of himself, but he's right when he says that the Democrats are showing what is really important to them. The collective bargaining and mandatory union dues are the lynchpins that keep the whole runaway train connected.

To use a popular parallel. This is like the Dark Knight movie, Republicans are going after their money, in comparison to Batman going after the mobs money.

It's going to get really bad. If Walker succeeds in WI, it will be all over for public unions in the long run.

I would not be suprised if they resort to violence, and i mean real violence, not just getting arrested at protests.

Too many people, not just democrats, depend on union money if you get my drift.

This is huge and is probably going to get worse as the unions begin mobilization across the us.

43 I was in Illinois too.

44 Can we get the Democrats to flee CA to IL?

Winner, winner.  Chicken dinner.

At least for the CA Morons.

45 been to a lot of sites this morning.  Comments have a lot of "the republicans are selling the states down the river" posts.  Like it is a concerted effort or something.

anyone remember, like two years before the election, nannyp came out and was practically in tears saying she didn't have the money to fund all the upcoming campaigns.  I remember wondering where she got the money.  Maybe we are seeing them protect the money for their campaigns which is why they are so irrational.

46 Great. I think all this is gonna backfire big time on the dems and the liberal wienies.

47 Give em a whiff of Democrat, and release the bloodhound Honey Badgers in IL.
 
^{(gonna need a lot of Honey Badgers for this job)}
 
fleebaggers.......gotta love it.

48

All I ask is that you please relent from bombing Illinois until I depart next week.   

49

Vote the Democrat Party

The Courage to run away.

50 Hey, lets not talk too much shit about IL here. Don't you realize what's going on? The governor is simply trying to stimulate the states fledgling economy by appealing to the deposed dictator types (a growing demographic) to bring in extra tax revenue and business to the hospitality industry. We should applaud his efforts. 

51 Americans watch Col Bug Fuck Nuts runaway and give speeches from undisclosed locations and laugh. Libyans watch Democrats runaway and give speeches from undisclosed locations and laugh.

52 If we can get them all to run to Canada, then we'd have something to talk about!

We tried to, back in the 1860s, but some stupid Michigander let Vallandingham back in.

53 They aren't even voting "Present" - they are worse than Obama!

54  The collective bargaining and mandatory union dues are the lynchpins that keep the whole runaway train connected.

Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2011 12:32 PM (AZGON)

These are the only things keeping the democrat party alive.  The public unions fund the democrats, who allow the unions to rent-seek, who take a portion of their overpayment and kick it back to the dems, and the cycle continues until default.

55

35 Couldn't the governor hire bount hunters. Kinda like Darth Vader did to get Han Solo. I had to use that analogy.


Why, because it's a wrong analogy?  Vader didn't use bounty hunters for Solo.  He wanted Luke.  Boba Fett wanted Solo for Jabba. 

56 Give me some knowledge, how many times has this occured in the history of the Republic?

Three that I know of.

57 If Walker succeeds in WI, it will be all over for public unions in the long run.

And if public-sector unions are ended in enough states, that does serious damage to the Democrat Party as a whole.

58 If only we could get every state to do this, then all the democrats would be forced to go to Canada.

59 "You know who this benefits? Mitch Daniels."

haha ha ha yea right

60 Give me some knowledge, how many times has this occured in the history of the Republic?

Reportedly Lincoln did once when he was in the IL state legislature.  He jumped out the window to prevent a quorum.  I don't think he crossed state lines.

61

Kasich should just go ahead and put the Ohio Democrats under house arrest.

I was with someome over the weekend who is pretty close to Kasich and he said that if anyone illegally walked off their jobs to strike that Kasich said he would fire them if they were under his purview

62 There is no law on the books to deal with MIA legislators?

63 One of my students thinks he's proved my arguments about the cost of teaching wrong. He just sent this to me, hold onto your hats folks: "To some parents, school is just a baby sitter or a place to keep their children out of trouble. This shows how cheap it is for teachers to do exactly that. Teachers' hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or10 months a year! It's time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do - babysit! We can get that for less than minimum wage. That's right. Let's give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan-- that equals 6 1/2 hours). Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day...maybe 30? So that's $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day. However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations. LET'S SEE.... That's $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master's degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year. Wait a minute -- there's something wrong here! There sure is! The average teacher's salary (nation wide) is $50,000. $50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student--a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!) WHAT A DEAL!!!!" Why do I have the feeling one of my libtard colleagues did this equation in class to prove the point?

64 Give me some knowledge, how many times has this occured in the history of the Republic? Three that I know of. Posted by: Rob Crawford at February 22, 2011 12:39 PM (IuKAf) And counting, because ya know the dems/liberals are not very imaginative but are basically one trick ponies.

65 If they were in the Army, they'd be AWOL.

66

A new Fox reality show for Dog the Bounty hunter!

He captures wayward state senators and returns them to their capitals!

67 We would like to announce today that all our problems were created by George W. Bush........... Well it worked for Obama why not try it again.......

68 Notice how the press is covering for the fleeing Wisconsin Dems in Illinois and not releasing where they're staying.  There was an ABC reporter on GMA chuckling over how the senators wouldn't let him photograph their cars.

69 58 If only we could get every state to do this, then all the democrats would be forced to go to Canada.

The Canucks aren't that bad.  Let the Fleebaggers go to Mexico. 

70 Great...even more revolutionaries to the People's Republic of Illinois.

71 been to a lot of sites this morning.  Comments have a lot of "the republicans are selling the states down the river" posts.  Like it is a concerted effort or something.

Because it is.

72 This is a hill upon which to die, for Walker. no, he doesn't need to. Instead he can just have the state legislature vote on other bills that don't need quorum. Like ID needed to vote, etc. Other bills that dems hate and will have to show up for if they want to prevent them from passing. Yes, that is certainly where he needs to begin. He may have to pare up the budget eventually. But as you say, one step at a time.

73 I hereby declare Illinois a sanctuary state for Democrats.
 
Be sure and bring cash. No checks accepted. Including ours.

74

If Walker succeeds in WI, it will be all over for public unions in the long run.

And if public-sector unions are ended in enough states, that does serious damage to the Democrat Party as a whole.

Specifcially in the states who will now have "right to work" laws.

The dems can't afford to lose Wisconsin, New Jersey and Ohio.

There's always talk of the Republican party being at risk of becoming a regionally party, but it's looking more and more like it will be the Democrats who are a bi coastal regional party. Especially if they lose their number one source of funding.

On the other hand. This is definately going to mobilize them for 2012. It's gunna be ruuuul bad.

75 Opps, I meant "hate" not "had".

76 I feel bad for democrats in state legislatures that don't border illinois.

77

>>This is the second state cleared of Democrats. If we can get all state Democratic legislators to flee to Illinois, the other 49 states will be in a lot better shape.

Don't you mean the other 56 states?

78 Posted by: Ben at February 22, 2011 12:34 PM (wuv1c)

I actually think of it differently: I think he should do it, but not as any form of "trickery."  One policy, one bill.  It's that simple.

To your point, breaking the bills down small won't get the Dems to come back anyway.  They've already fled quorum because they can't stop this stuff, why would they come back to be present to vote for other things they hate that they can't stop?

What does need to happen is that, in states where such rules exist or can be created according to the State constitution, any member who avoids a quorum call should be expelled from the Legislature, and a new senator/representative should be appointed by the Governor until such time as a special election can be held.

And all states should start adding language that will allow this to their constitutions immediately.

79 and they even EDUCATE your kids!

Apparently not.

80 I meant "prove" the point at the end of my student's little argument in #63. I sent him a reply saying his equation is missing a few variables in cost. Let alone the political process and budget problems.

81 Time for the nuclear option.

Divest the fuckers of their seats, hold special elections to replace them. Lifetime ban on anyone who pulls this shit from holding public office again.

82

"the other 55 states will be in a lot better shape"

 

FIFY

83
This is when I wish we had machines like the ones in War of the Worlds, to hunt down and capture fleebaggers. 

84 Can't the remaining republicans pass a bill to oust the cowardly MIA democratic representatives? 

OMG someone said they were "conscientious objectors"

85 I saw a recent post where someone in support of Wisc. teachers claimed they "ONLY" made $78K/year with benefits. My first thought was "I wonder what the average taxpayer thats supports this system lists as income on his 1040? Pretty sure it's WAY below $78K/year".

86 can't a simple majority change the rules?

87

Maybe we are seeing them protect the money for their campaigns which is why they are so irrational.

Of course it's a cycle. Government worker unions fund Democrat campaigns. Democrat politicians turn back around and create government worker jobs and pay them more than what they would earn in the private sector. The government worker unions then turn around and fund Democrat campaigns. The private sector unions are also involved in this scheme but not to the same extent.

If you end the mandatory union membership for government workers and make them write a check for their dues instead of having it withheld from their pay you will break the cycle.

88 79 and they even EDUCATE your kids!

Apparently not.

Posted by: toby928™ at February 22, 2011 12:44 PM (GTbGH)

seriously 2/3 of the state's 8th graders are not at a good reading level. 2/3's?

89 What's funny about the same tactic used here in Texas back in 2003, ever since then the Demonrats have been losing seats in the state.  So much that now the Republicans now have a supermajority.

90 Democrat politicians?

Oh, HELLS no!

91 "They're shitbags but they're not afraid to stand by their convictions."

No, their convictions would require them to do their jobs as state legislators, carrying about the legislative business of all the people -- not just the ones they happen to agree with.

All they're are now are whiny, petulant fools, running away from their sworn duties to ineptly sabotage the democratic legislative process that is the whole reason for their existence.

92 My favorite pic from Wisconsin.  Swiped from Jawa:

http://tinyurl.com/46jfqxu

93 When the going gets tough, the democrats run away.  Like scared little bunnies mice.

94 I sent him a reply saying his equation is missing a few variables in cost. Let alone the political process and budget problems.

And daycare workers don't get paid by the kid, just like autoworkers don't get paid by the car.

95 Video: The NEA's General Counsel admitting they don't give a rat's behind about better schools or children's achievement, it's all about money and power. Note the teachers in the audience give him a standing O.

96

no, he doesn't need to. Instead he can just have the state legislature vote on other bills that don't need quorum. Like ID needed to vote, etc. Other bills that dems hate and will have to show up for if they want to prevent them from passing.

THIS!

97 There was s filibuster procedure in the US House until just before the Civil War. The House procedures allowed legislators to not respond when a call for a quorom was taken. If insufficient congressmen acknowledged that they were actually present the motion would die for lack of a quorom. Then one day the quorom call failed. The Speaker (IIRC) took the rostrom and basically said, "I see the Honorable gentleman from South Carolina is present, let the record show he is present for the quorom." He went down through the list while his opponents screamed and threw things until enough people were found for the quorom. (I think he had the Sergeant at Arms seal the chamber.) The fight over the matter took three days to settle but that was the end of the House filibuster.

98 Just put Rush on.  He was talking about this and I almost thought he was talking about Wisconsin.  He said they have to go to a state with a democratic governor or they will be arrested?

Posted by: curious at February 22, 2011 12:34 PM (p302b)

Basically, if they flee to a state with a Republican Governor, their respective Governors (Walker, Daniels) will request that the AWOL legislators be arrested and extradited (effectively, anyway) back to their State where they will then be forced to the Capitol Building (or wherever).

As long as they go a Dem controlled state, the Dem Governor is likely to deny that request.

Of course, if too many of them go that way, even IL may not have a choice but to round them up and send them back.  I'm sure IL thinks they have a high enough crime rate as it is.  (Low?  Yeah.  But fun.)

99 The Demoncrats in Indiana our doing its for us. We be educamuncated vary well to the point thats when I be grandualating I can gets a joobs at McDonalds. So lay off of tham!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

100
Democrat theme

101 They've already fled quorum because they can't stop this stuff, why would they come back to be present to vote for other things they hate that they can't stop? Yes, you may be right. However there is a benefit to getting some laws passed right now that do not require a quorum but are opposed by the Democrat minority. The WI Democrats will suffer from charges of being absent while Evil Republicans Sow Chaos and Discord. Even Democrat voters will look askance at their chosen officials when they learn that merely standing-by is too hard for these Democrat officials; they had to flee like frightened children.

102 Our for Are. Teach it moron.

103 --House Democrats are leaving the state rather than vote on anti-union legislation, The Indianapolis Star has learned.

It's just an isolated event.  Just one lunatic group of dem legislatures.  It is not that dems are on a jihad against the republic.  No.  Just an isolated group of lunatics ...

104 Run Away... Run Away...

105

"... but primarily a so-called right to work bill that would give members of private-sector unions the right to opt out of unions."

Democrats think people should be forced to join unions.  that's why the want card check.  It's also why everyone should be afraid that democrats will take away everyone's right to any type of private vote.  The democrats want a goon standing over your shoulder while you vote.

106

70 Perhaps we could offer to be their "coyotes"...too bad there aren't any barren, waterless deserts in Illinois...

Oh well, we should improvise: shake them down at the border, promise to sneak them over in the back of a livestock trailer,  and then drive them to West Terre Haute or Evansville (going the backroads way of course -- for authenticity and to disorient them).

107

I say we replace them with illegal immigrants undocumented workers.

Aren't they supposed to work harder, longer and for less money? And do the work that Americans won't do?

108

I'm not finding any laws in IN similar to WI's misconduct law. Yet.

109

People often debate whether a state can secede from the union, but I've always wondered whether the other 49 states can agree to kick the 50th out. If all the Dem legislators end up in IL let's give it a try.

(Or we can do a trial run and agree to kick MA-4 out of the union for returning Barney Frank to Congress after boyfriend runs prostitution ring out of apartment, he sleeps with senior exec of company he regulates, helps implode the entire world economy, etc. etc.)

110 You know who this benefits....

Mitch Daniels... 

He gets one shot for the brass ring...

111

1 Can we get the Democrats to flee CA to IL?

Dick Cheney and Karl Rove are down in the basement of Cheney's house wiping the dust off The Machine.  The lats and longs for Illinois are being dialed in, and they are trying to confirm that Rahm is indeed "at home".  They are waiting for Sarah to show up and do the honors as the next President.  The darn selector knob was left set at "Hurricane" for so long, they are having trouble changing it to "Asteroid", but nothing a little WD-40 won't fix.

Dick hasn't told anyone, but he plans to hit the "twin-turbo" button on his heart pump as Sarah bends waaaay over to flip the switch, and go out in style.

The doorbell rings...

112 If we can get all state Democratic legislators to flee to Illinois, the other 49 states will be in a lot better shape.

Hah!! +1000 Nobel Prizes

113 How about we hire VD infected hookers and send them Illinios where these clowns are. Then they can bring home some gifts for their families.

114 To put it another way, Democrat voters must be saying to themselves, more and more: "Hey, we skip our occasional phony work to demonstrate amid smelly crowds in Madison. Why aren't you here demonstrating with us?"

115 Oh wait....

116 Did it ever occur to anyone hear that the Indiana reps are not fleeing the State but simply going to vote in the Chicago Mayor Election with all the other dead people?

117

106  Ooooh, and perhaps collect a bounty on them to boot!

(hey, times are hard here; some bounty money would be nice -- is a little damage to the pelts ok?)

118 What this thread needs is a photoshop by Slublog of the fleebaggers' short bus with Barry behind the wheel. 

119 One of my students thinks he's proved my arguments about the cost of teaching wrong. He just sent this to me, hold onto your hats folks:

Ask him to do the equation again but ad a private party willing to compete for those same students.  Without a monopoly his shit don't fly

120 SANCTUARY!  SANCTUARY!

121 Why they scared? I'm not scared.

122 Posted by: George Orwell at February 22, 2011 12:51 PM (AZGON)

I agree.  I just think we need to be clear on why we're doing it. 

And, if the WI and IN legislatures start doing this, they need to be prepared to say, "I have supported X for a long time.  Since the Democrats have absented themselves from the state, and we can't proceed on the budget, we're moving to things we can tackle until they return."

123 I'm so proud of our brave democrat legislators. This is what our forefathers meant by democracy; vote with your legs!

124 O/T

This blog is nothing if not innovative. we used to get double posts. Now we get double headlines. We are truly blessed.

125 Behold! Our enemies are driven before us! Listen to the lamentations of their women.

126 Mitch Daniels... 

He gets one shot for the brass ring...

Posted by: phreshone at February 22, 2011 12:54 PM (T3vCe)

I heard Daniels was trying to squash this bill behind the scenes. He wants it killed on the floor because he knows he dare not veto it.

127 111

1 Can we get the Democrats to flee CA to IL?

Dick Cheney and Karl Rove are down in the basement of Cheney's house wiping the dust off The Machine.  The lats and longs for Illinois are being dialed in, and they are trying to confirm that Rahm is indeed "at home".  They are waiting for Sarah to show up and do the honors as the next President.  The darn selector knob was left set at "Hurricane" for so long, they are having trouble changing it to "Asteroid", but nothing a little WD-40 won't fix.

Dick hasn't told anyone, but he plans to hit the "twin-turbo" button on his heart pump as Sarah bends waaaay over to flip the switch, and go out in style.

The doorbell rings...

Posted by: sherlock at February 22, 2011 12:54 PM (U+goV)

thread winner

128

Wisconsin has voted Democrat in every election since 1988.

Do you think its possible it could flip in 2012?

If so, that would make up for our loss of Colorado as a red state

129 Mitch: now is your time to break your truce.

Pass everything the Democrats hate!

130 >>Did it ever occur to anyone hear that the Indiana reps are not fleeing the State but simply going to vote in the Chicago Mayor Election with all the other dead people? Yea, it occurred to me but then I cam to my senses. I mean Dems acting illegally in the pursuit of money and power? Crazy talk.

131 @122 Yes. While time is on Walker's side, it's not infinite. They ought to start passing some legislation; "See? We're doing our jobs. If Democrats don't do theirs, you have the ballot box at your disposal."

132

OT

BNI has a couple of entertaining videos posted the Moronettes might want to take in. The ROP spoils it's women, you know. But not in a good way.

133

I'm not finding any laws in IN similar to WI's misconduct law. Yet.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at February 22, 2011 12:53 PM (pLTLS)

Actually, this is a federal issue.  The US Constitutions to each state a Republican form of government.  Legislators refusing to do their jobs - jobs they ran for and wanted - in these sorts of conspiracies most definitely deny the state the right of its Republican government.  The federal government is supposed to step in and arrest and deliver enough legislators in order to get the legislatures back up and running normally.

That's how it's supposed to work - without an Indonesian leading the federal Executive branch who is actively helping to shut down those legislatures (which is another impeacheable act by Barky) ...

134 You Democrats fleeing Illinios make sure that you are compliant with the new Health Care Legislation !!!!!!!!!!

135

By the way -- I really appreciate the comments concerning nuking my family from space.

Really classy -- because, like, everyone in IL is a lefty and deserves to die, right?

136 IC 5-8-1-35
Verification of accusation; citing party; hearing; judgment
     Sec. 35. (a) When an accusation in writing, verified by the oath of any person, is presented to a circuit court, alleging that any officer within the jurisdiction of the court has been guilty of:
  ....(2) refusing or neglecting to perform the official duties pertaining to his office; or

137

Profiles in Courage for the 21st Century.  In the end, I think this is going to backfire on the Dems very, very badly.

Mental exercise:  Again, just think what the reaction from the idiot media would be if Republicans did this.

 

138 "anti-union legislation" This is what happens when you allow the Left to frame the narrative. Instead it should be "anti-deficit legislation" or "pro-balanced budget legislation" or "sustainable fiscal policy" legislation.

139 "I wonder what the average taxpayer thats supports this system lists as income on his 1040? Pretty sure it's WAY below $78K/year".

Depends how you calculate it. But—as of about five years ago, 50% of Americans with incomes reported earnings of below $30k. So it's probably about $30k.

If you exclude "taxpayers" who work for the government (and so really only pretend to pay taxes), it's more like $20k.

Americans in non-patronage jobs are fuckin' broke. Plus, across income quintiles, total taxation is almost perfectly flat, so they're broke good and hard.

140 Pull !11!!1!!111!

141

Greta (yeah, I know) interviewed one of the prodigal WI Dem lawmakers from her "undisclosed location" last night. The lawmaker said she had left because of how quickly the bill was being shoved through and that, by leaving, she was providing more time for the public to find out what was in the bill and debate it.

Greta did not follow up by asking how she felt about ObamaCare and how it was pushed through congress.

Laura Ingraham also didn't comment on that chunk when it was played for her on Fox&Friends this morning.

 

142

The FLEEBAGGERS are are part of a new movement called "Democrats Against Democracy"

143

UN-presidented.

 

144 Posted by: unknown jane at February 22, 2011 01:00 PM (5/yRG)

Yep, 'cause we're serious about it.

Though, you know, if y'all wanted to move somewhere sane, and we COULD get them all in one location... well, I'll just say it costs less, and leave it at that.

(see? still kidding)

145 The US Constitutions to each state a Republican form of government

Oy.  "The Constitution GUARANTEES to each state ..."

146 On the other hand, if this is correct: The House was came into session this morning, with only two of the 40 Democrats present. Those two were needed to make a motion, and a seconding motion, for any procedural steps Democrats would want to take to ensure Republicans donÂ’t do anything official without quorum. Does this mean the legislature cannot pass anything now? If this is the case, Walker may need to become more... creative. Of course, there might be no real consequences to WI if the legislature just sits idle. If our own federal legislature did nothing for a year, we would probably be better off.

147

Wisconsin has voted Democrat in every election since 1988.

Do you think its possible it could flip in 2012?

Ohio and Wisconsin were absolute disasters for Democrats in 2010.  So, yes, there is a great deal of hope.

148 Is anyone else finding this and what happening in WI to be comedy gold?  I'm laughing my ass off.  I reading all of this and keep coming back to a mental image of IN Democrats as Count Rugen from "The Princess Bride" when he's challenged by Inigo Montoya to a duel to the death.


For those morons who've never seen this movie, Count Rugen immediately turns tail and bolts, denying Montoya revenge for the murder of his father.


"My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!"

149 When the Republicans are in the minority why do they never cut and run to kill a quorum?

This shit needs to be stopped hard.

Governors, grow some balls and find a your inner honey badger

Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2011 12:29 PM (M9Ie6)

FIFM

150 SEIU/OFA/Acorn/Union demonstrations in 16 states.  I think they are starting to realize that the jig is almost up.  They are making a coordinated last gasp.  And a last grasp for the golden ring of taxpayer money.

May they be pounded, and pounded well.

151 Remove them. Shame them. Bar them from ever serving in any capacity again

Well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad, but "shame them" is an impossible goal.  They have no shame.

152 the republicans are the party of no

the democrats are the party of taking the ball and going home, even when it isn't their freaking ball to begin with

153 Fleebaggers!

154 Just heard on the radio that (I think) the unions are threatening to go to the voters if this collective bargaining bill passes in Ohio and put a pro-union initiative on the ballot.

Is that possible?

If so, I don't think they will like the result, unless they already have the votes (wink, wink)

155 Just hold the vote anyway...
... and refuse to check the ID of the voters.

"Looks like 132 in favor, the bill passes."

156 Stupid me, I'm conflating Indiana and Wisconsin.

157

Okay:

1. I really think the Dems live in their own bubble or somehow think that if they rile up their base things will get better. After the biggest House landslide in 70+ years, and an above normal Senate pickup (+6, when +3 is the normal), they still don't get it. While Obama's trying (and failing) to look centrist, his party seems to want to go the other direction. The DLC is gone, the blue dogs are worthless (and don't stand up for their own values), the party is losing the affiliation and ballot battle they always tend to have a lock on, and they are losing electoral votes and power among the big states they have destroyed. 2010 would have been worse had bad candidates and a Steele chairmanship not gotten in the way. Somehow they think what happen in Nov didn't happen and they will pay the price for doing so even if Obama finds a way to a fluke re-election.

2. Someone mentioned WI going blue since 88 in Presidential races, that's very true. There's a strong German anti-war, Democrat liberterian attitude there, however we haven't lost the state in landslides. Yes we lost it easily to Clinton twice and to Obama in 08 but in 88, 00, and 04 we barely lost the state and in 04 some say we won it but it was stolen from us (lots of suspicious activity involving Dem groups) and of course Dubya was a horrible campaigner. So yes we have room and chance to make WI red in 2012, and it will hurt big time if Dems lose it because no Dem since JFK in 1960 has won the White House w/o winning Wisconsin

158 Could all the democrats just flee the whole country? Please?

159 May they be pounded, and pounded well.

Did fomeone call me?

160

Col Gaddafi stated today that Libya's image was being distorted by Western media and denounced those instigating the protests as "rats" who had been "seduced" into demonstrations with money and drugs, adding that Libyans were "defying the tyranny of the US and those powerful countries" instead of rebelling against their own regime. I guess he did not get the memo from Obama. But, wait Obama is America...Hmmmmm looks like the speech in Cairo sucked moose dick and he didn't buy the same crap 52% of the US population did. Thus Gaddafi  is smarter than 52% of Americans taught by the best teachers in the world???

161 Does this mean the legislature cannot pass anything now? If this is the case, Walker may need to become more... creative.

The 2 dems showing up is in Ohio.  Walker is WI.

162

We need to start eminent domain proceedings against these guys. Declare them dead and refuse to accept an proof otherwise until they are physically present in a court room. Charge their family members with murder because they have disappeared under suspicious circumstances.

We need to take a page out of the lefties playbook and start protesting outside of their families homes.

We need to treat the left just like they treat us.

163 40 M. Daniels won't f*ck around with this pigfilth. He's puny but he's also mighty and has a backbone when push comes to shove. He's wiry. Heh!

164 Just hold the vote anyway... ... and refuse to check the ID of the voters. Niiiice.

165 Hey, Dick?  You know those mind-control implants we had embedded in democrats' skulls?

Heh, heh, they're working perfectly.

166

159 Could all the democrats just flee the whole country? Please?

They prefer to flea the country.

167 @162 yeah, just caught that, skimming too quickly.

168 The Wisconsin fleebaggers were found hiding in Harvard? I was found hiding at Harvard, too!

169 92 My favorite pic from Wisconsin.  Swiped from Jawa:

http://tinyurl.com/46jfqxu

Posted by: Tami at February 22, 2011 12:49 PM (VuLos)

Good lord I hope she's not a teacher.  But sadly I wouldn't be surprised if she is.

170

Funny!  What can we do to get the rest of the socialists to fleebag to Illinoise?

Agree w 10--then bomb it.

171 O/T..I just filled up the SUV with gas and when I went in to pay, the mgr said I was lucky to fill it up when I did because she was just going out to raise the price per gallon 30 cts

172 Here is the question no one is asking: Who is paying the travel expenses for these morons?

173

Posted by: Anachronda at February 22, 2011 01:02 PM (NmR1a)

meh Greta is a Dem who appereantly has switched sides while still fawning over her buddies that claim to be moderate Dems, not suprised she gave softballs (though she's had her moments like defending Palin and going after Gloria Alrett)

Ingraham too is all talk and no bite, she has a funny and great radio show but when she debates she just smirks and gives a sarcastic "yeah" while not counterattacking the Dems' BS

174 The Wisconsin fleebaggers 

Posted by: Barry0 at February 22, 2011 01:08 PM (FcR7P)

LOL.

175 Lol.  Unreal.  Fox just showed a so-called nurse at the WI protests, who claims the fake doctors' notes are actually not fake, 'cause the protesters could be "sick" from stress.

You can't make this stuff up.

176 Jesus. Looking at leftard women, ugly must have been free.

177 Why do I have the feeling one of my libtard colleagues did this equation in class to prove the point? Posted by: Doc

Doc, it's a comment copied and pasted on a number of leftie forums. Google a sentence from the drivel, using quotation marks, and you will see a number of links.

If businesses used this line of reasoning to determine pay, no job would ever be had. 

That letter's method of calculation would be akin to a retail store paying each clerk a wage multiplied by each customer the clerk helps each day.

It ignores marginal cost and economy of scale, the two elements of a free-market that induce employment and industry. But, of course, education is not a free-market, and there in lies the problem.

178

At least our President has the guts to vote "Present".

bwah-ha-ha...I knew I couldn't say that with a straight face.

179

meh Greta is a Dem who appereantly has switched sides while still fawning over her buddies that claim to be moderate Dems, not suprised she gave softballs (though she's had her moments like defending Palin and going after Gloria Alrett)

she was a hillary clinton dem, who i think was extremely pissed at what happened to hillary. She's clearly pro-woman to the point of being anti-man

She's actually one of the better hosts on fox news.

180 When do the firings start in WISC?

181

meh Greta is a Dem who appereantly has switched sides while still fawning over her buddies that claim to be moderate Dems, not suprised she gave softballs (though she's had her moments like defending Palin and going after Gloria Alrett)

Posted by: YRM (Really Pissed Of W/ Dopes) at February 22, 2011 01:09 PM (UzBwz)

Greta is very good, actually, but her problem is that she always goes with the woman.  If there's no woman involved,  or the woman is on the right side, Greta's usually on point.

182 Why do I have the feeling one of my libtard colleagues did this equation in class to prove the point?

I remember seeing that stupid thing back when I was in high school in the 90's.  It's a staple of teachers when they recite their 'we're underpaid' canard.

They forget the costs of running the building, feeding the children, buying their materials, etc.  If teachers could do all that and we only paid 100K/year for 30 students, THAT would be a bargain.

But um, they can't.  They think standing in front of a class and screaming at people to stop talking for eight hours is worth 100K a year.  Unfortunately, some of them actually get that.

183 I disagree about the need for the "nuclear option". The donks have no endgame. They cannot win. They can delay the process, maybe for a long time, but they can't end it in their favor. Right now Walker looks like the adult next to the child holding his breath and stomping his feet.

184

145 Hey jackwagon, some of us are not moving right now a variety of reasons.  And if did you perchance take a look at the electoral maps from the last election?  Doesn't look as though the majority of IL is "insane".

Hmmm, wonder how it would go down if I started saying similar things about other states?  Yours for instance.  Boy, that would be a real funny wouldn't it Allen?  Your family wiped out in a cataclyismic event -- but it'd just be a joke, and after all, you're from a "bad" area of the country, so you have to be "bad" too.

Just kidding.

185 I have made a decision about the situation in Egypt. I support Gaddafi ...

186

A source said Democrats are headed to Illinois

 

We've got enough corrupt Democrats in this state we don't need any more

187 If the Dems are in Harvard, Ill there is bascially only one hotel there. The Hertiage Inn and Suites.

188

Dear God.....it's a nightmare here! It's as if Ted Kennedy came back from the grave...With an expense account!!

 

Please..someone.....help us...help...........

189 "anti-union legislation"

This is what happens when you allow the Left to frame the narrative.

Was at the doctors office this morning and was subjected to over an hour of CNN.  That was some of the most retarded shit I've heard in a very long time.  Then they had the gall to ask me why my blood pressure was high. 

190 And I repeat, once these legislators crossed state lines it became a federal issue.  Barky ought to be impeached for his actions - in the opposite direction of the Constitutional prescriptions (and just for helping to organize protests in Wisconsin) - yet, once again.

191 O/T..I just filled up the SUV with gas and when I went in to pay, the mgr said I was lucky to fill it up when I did because she was just going out to raise the price per gallon 30 cts

Posted by: beedubya at February 22, 2011 01:08 PM (AnTyA)

Where are you beedubya?

192 Indiana Democrats Flee Statehouse To Avoid Having To Vote

Profiles in Cowardice.

193

The CEO of one car company is about to investigate another one...again.

Really, these fucking fucks aren't even trying to be discreet anymore.  Brazen lawlessness and fascism.

194 There is no law on the books to deal with MIA legislators?

Posted by: plain ol soothsayer at February 22, 2011 12:40 PM (uFokq)

No time like the present, heh, heh, heh.

*looks toward Wisconsin, Indiana*

195 135

By the way -- I really appreciate the comments concerning nuking my family from space.

Really classy -- because, like, everyone in IL is a lefty and deserves to die, right?

Posted by: unknown jane at February 22, 2011 01:00 PM (5/yRG)

Just like for California, we'll send out a coded message so the Morons can get their families to safety.  You can move back after it stops glowing.

CT won't need to be nuked from orbit, our legislature is going to do it for us from Hartford.

196 And I repeat, once these legislators crossed state lines it became a federal issue Since their fleas carry the financial plague, I'm surprised states don't seal their borders.

197 114 To put it another way, Democrat voters must be saying to themselves, more and more: "Hey, we skip our occasional phony work to demonstrate amid smelly crowds in Madison. Why aren't you here demonstrating with us?"

Sorry, but you've made a fatal mistake here.

Democrats are not logical. I'm guessing the Democrat voters are more than likely applauding the resourcefulness of their reps and standing behind them in the way that only people who have no logic center in the brain can do.

198 What is expected in Ohio?

199 Nice find, laceyunderalls!  I like the result if the bastards are found guilty:

    (b) If after the hearing under subsection (a) it appears that the charge is sustained, the court must do the following:
        (1) Enter a decree that the party accused be deprived of his office...

200

Posted by: Ben at February 22, 2011 01:11 PM (wuv1c)

Oh I don't mean to say she isn't a good hosts, she is; i'm just saying she's allowed a lot of BS to go unchallenged and yes I know of her History as  ahillary backer turned anti-men Republican, she's Hillbuzz w/o the conspiracies

201

I remember last year when the fillibuster was scrutinized.  "How can we allow Republicans to stall or prevent voting on our Liberal agenda" was popular sentiment on the left side of Capitol Hill.

So what do Liberals have to say for themselves now?  They should all be relieved of duty and replaced by the governor.

202 Ask not what you can do for your country, RUN AWAY!

203

just what I need, more socialists and unionistas...

204 Ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what your Union demands of you. Courage. Run bravely away.

205

What is expected in Ohio?

they can't feel to PA. Tom Corbett would send their asses packing, Did Michigan elect a republican governor?

206 85 I saw a recent post where someone in support of Wisc. teachers claimed they "ONLY" made $78K/year with benefits. My first thought was "I wonder what the average taxpayer thats supports this system lists as income on his 1040? Pretty sure it's WAY below $78K/year".

Don't forget that teachers get fantastic benefits including massively subsidized health and retirement plans, which substantively act as quite a bit of additional salary.  (IE anyone who isn't a teacher would be paying for those things out of pocket).

Plus, teachers only work 9 months a year!

207 Question:  How are the Republicans going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Discuss.

208

Actually, this is a federal issue.  The US Constitutions to each state a Republican form of government.  Posted by: iknowtheleft

Sorry, WI has a republican form of government. They had elections, they have representatives. It's not a Federal issue.

If it were, Congress could outlaw part-time legislatures and regulate every detail regarding their sessions.

209 Is this an example of chickens going home to roost or are they crossing the road? 

210 Posted by: unknown jane at February 22, 2011 01:12 PM (5/yRG)

For those of us able to view such things as funny, yes, it would be just kidding.  This is the same argument we have with Dems RE: "violent imagery" and other such things.

I'll say to you the same things I say to them:  Chill.

I take shots at Oklahoma fairly regularly (and Soona always disappoints me by not responding.  Darn him.)  And Okies quite frequently take shots at Texas.

In most of these cases, it is some combination of a) venting frustration, b) tongue-in-cheek, and c) "colorful" commentary. 

So, no, I don't particularly feel bad that you're unable to take this particular joke.  I don't recall seeing you get worked up when the "Let Cali slide into the ocean" type comments are raised, so a) I missed those responses, b) you somehow missed the original comments, or c) you are hypocritically hyperventilating because these jibes happen to be aimed at Illinois instead of some other State.

Now, I'm not sure which of those it is, or if there is some other option, but I'm not going to pretend to be sorry for making a joke, even if it offends your sensibilities.

211

By the way -- I really appreciate the comments concerning nuking my family from space.

Really classy -- because, like, everyone in IL is a lefty and deserves to die, right?

Posted by: unknown jane at February 22, 2011 01:00 PM (5/yRG)

Just like for California, we'll send out a coded message so the Morons can get their families to safety.  You can move back after it stops glowing.

CT won't need to be nuked from orbit, our legislature is going to do it for us from Hartford.

Posted by: brian

 

After the year we had? Bring it. Nuke this pissant little state. I'll be standing by the statue of Caesar Rodney, who was the first, and perhaps last Delawarean to have courage and integrity. With Luck Mike Castle will get first, due to his (physical) stature.

212

Did Michigan elect a republican governor?

Yes, Rick Snyder.

213

Posted by: unknown jane at February 22, 2011 01:00 PM (5/yRG)

I gotta take your side here jane, IL is a blue state in big trouble, it has been since the 80s but it's shown promises of hope compared to CA & NY the other 2 big lefty states. While it idiotically voted to keep the Gov office blue as well as it's state house and state senate; it is now represented by more Reps then Dems in the House of Representatives and did elect a Rep to the senate; yes most of these folks are squishy RINO Reps but it's a start

214

People often debate whether a state can secede from the union, but I've always wondered whether the other 49 states can agree to kick the 50th out. If all the Dem legislators end up in IL let's give it a try.

This must be some of that newfangled "thinkin' out of the box" I been hearing so much about.

cut, jib, newsletter, etc.

215 Democrats flee Wis. and Ind. and go to Illinois. Just in time to help vote for the new mayor of Chicago.

216

Where are you beedubya?

Posted by: Tami at February 22, 2011 01:15 PM (VuLos)

SW Ohio

217 Wait....WTF?

Madison -- The Senate is now scheduled for Wednesday morning to take up a bill on the gathering of racial data by law enforcement during traffic stops.

The Senate's scheduling committee voted unanimously to take up the bill, with the panel's two Democrats voting by teleconference from an undisclosed location in Illinois.

The traffic stop bill, which was passed by Democrats in the last legislative session, aims to gather information on whether law enforcement engages in racial profiling in traffic stops. Republicans have criticized it as a burden on police.

The Senate will also take up a resolution honoring the UW Badgers football team on its recent season and Rose Bowl appearance. That's a dig at Sen. Fred Risser (D-Madison), the author of the resolution and one of the Democratic senators currently hiding out in Illinois.

Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) warned Democrats he might stop extending the courtesy of allowing them to vote by teleconference if they remain in Illinois much longer.

"They're trying to shut down government," he fumed after the committee vote.

Fitzgerald said the Senate will also be in session on Thursday and might take up then a bill to require voters to show photo ID at the polls.

218 Is this an example of chickens going home to roost or are they crossing the road? 

Posted by: Y-not

 

No, I'm still right here, by the statue.

219 So when Bush was POTUS and gas was close to $4 a gallon it was because Bush/Chaney were helping their oil buddied. So, what is it now the Obama is POTUS ???  His evil Muslim brothers causing gas to rise. Well purple lipped commie boy Obama, what is the excuse this time. And by the way to all those minimum wage idiots that voted for Obama...How is that Hope and change working out.....HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA...

220 Illinois is kinda like the bug zapper of states...........a bright shining light that holds an irresistable attraction for bugs of all the other states. 

221

OK, so the Ohio legilators can't flee to PA, Indiana, Michigan,

 

so post state police on the main roads heading into kentucky and west virginia, to catch them when they try to flee

222 @218

The Senate's scheduling committee voted unanimously to take up the bill, with the panel's two Democrats voting by teleconference from an undisclosed location in Illinois.

The hell?

223

 If Illinois' governor had an ounce of integrity he'd extradite, but he doesn't so he won't.

 

Now that's some funny right there......if Illinois' governor had any integrity he couldn't have gotten elected in the first place.

224 oh, so the Democrats can vote...by telephone...on their stupid pet-projects...while in hiding. Something stinks in Denmark. Why was that allowed, WI Republicans in the Senate?

225 Vote by teleconference!?!?!?!? There  is no effin way that is legal.

226 The Senate's scheduling committee voted unanimously to take up the bill, with the panel's two Democrats voting by teleconference from an undisclosed location in Illinois.

The hell?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2011 01:25 PM (UOM4

What?  I know if I was beating the shit out of my opponent, I'd bend over backward to accomodate him.

We're Republicans.  It's what we do.

227

once these legislators crossed state lines it became a federal issue. 

I don't know about that.

228 Democrats are not logical. I'm guessing the Democrat voters are more than likely applauding the resourcefulness of their reps and standing behind them in the way that only people who have no logic center in the brain can do. Not from the polling. The only poll I've seen that makes Democrats profit from this was sponsored by the AFL-CIO. And we have the example of Texas. While a different electorate, their walk-out tactic reduced their statehouse presence to a superminority.

229 oh, so the Democrats can vote...by telephone...on their stupid pet-projects...while in hiding.

Something stinks in Denmark.

Why was that allowed, WI Republicans in the Senate?

Posted by: plain ol soothsayer

 

Good question. Is this a make nice PR thing to counter the eeeeevvvviiill Rethuglican theme? Trying to drive a wedge in the Dems? Or Vichy France with cheddar cheese?

230 Stupid Fleebaggers are ruining this nation.

231 "This is the second state cleared of Democrats. If we can get all state Democratic legislators to flee to Illinois, the other 49 states will be in a lot better shape"



Wait... don't you mean the other 56 states?

232 Question:  How are the Republicans going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Discuss.

The Senate's scheduling committee voted unanimously to take up the bill, with the panel's two Democrats voting by teleconference from an undisclosed location in Illinois.

Well that's a damn good start.

233 Megyn is taking on a union idiot.  Wish her pregnancy hormones would kick in to overdrive right now.

234 have the state legislature vote on other bills that don't need quorum. Like ID needed to vote, etc. Other bills that dems hate and will have to show up for if they want to prevent them from passing.


This has been talked about for days. Why it isn't happening is beyond me.

235 Question: How are the Republicans going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The Senate's scheduling committee voted unanimously to take up the bill, with the panel's two Democrats voting by teleconference from an undisclosed location in Illinois. Well that's a damn good start. My thought exactly when I saw that.

236 Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker warned Tuesday that state employees could start receiving layoff notices as early as next week if a bill eliminating most collective bargaining rights isn't passed soon.

Walker said in a statement to The Associated Press that the layoffs wouldn't take effect immediately. He didn't say which workers would be targeted but he has repeatedly warned that up to 1,500 workers could lose their jobs by July if his proposal isn't passed.

"Hopefully we don't get to that point," Walker said.

It could take weeks or even months to lay off workers under the terms of their current union contracts.

237

Good question. Is this a make nice PR thing to counter the eeeeevvvviiill Rethuglican theme? Trying to drive a wedge in the Dems? Or Vichy France with cheddar cheese?

Posted by: Blue Hen © at February 22, 2011 01:28 PM (R2fpr)

Well, look what he said:

Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) warned Democrats he might stop extending the courtesy of allowing them to vote by teleconference if they remain in Illinois much longer.

-------

I say if one of them is on the phone, there's a quorum. 

238 Not a lawyer, but if bandito dems are allowed to vote via phone, doesn't their presence telephonically create a legal quorum? Inquiring minds and all.

239
I take shots at Oklahoma fairly regularly


I hope you hit. It's quite a large target, after all.

240

Sorry, WI has a republican form of government. They had elections, they have representatives. It's not a Federal issue. 

No, they don't.  That's the problem, right now.  It isn't a matter of legislation being bogged down in session by the use (or even possible abuse) of legislative rules and procedures.  This is the legislators intentionally shutting down the legislature (for full operation, and in particular, to stop one specific bill) by refusing to show up.  When they crossed the state line, it became a federal issue, without any doubt.

If it were, Congress could outlaw part-time legislatures and regulate every detail regarding their sessions.

Posted by: goldbricker esq at February 22, 2011 01:21 PM (S59+B)

No.  This is not a part-time legislature.  This is the legislatire being stopped from functioning when it is supposed to be functioning, by state law and legislative rule.

241 >>>"Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) warned Democrats he might stop extending the courtesy of allowing them to vote by teleconference if they remain in Illinois much longer." OH NO, A WARNING!!!

242 The Senate's scheduling committee voted unanimously to take up the bill, with the panel's two Democrats voting by teleconference from an undisclosed location in Illinois.

The hell?

--------------
Well, look at the bill. It allows profiling during crime stops. Maybe the Repubs can say it passed with bipartisan support.

243 Not a lawyer, but if bandito dems are allowed to vote via phone, doesn't their presence telephonically create a legal quorum?

Not a lawyer either but I think it does. Here in CA a telephonic appearance in court is considered a real appearance, why not in the legislature?

Dare we hope that they are lulling the fleebaggers into a false sense of security?

244
"anti-union legislation"

This is what happens when you allow the Left to frame the narrative.

Instead it should be "anti-deficit legislation" or "pro-balanced budget legislation" or "sustainable fiscal policy" legislation.



I'm okay with calling it "anti-union legislation". In fact, I'd be okay with some other variations on the theme like "give the unions a wedgie legislation", "unions-are-the-chicken legislation", "Mama Said Knock You Out Anti-Union Act of 2011", "What Is Best In Life Right-to-Work Act of 2011".

245 Not a lawyer, but if bandito dems are allowed to vote via phone, doesn't their presence telephonically create a legal quorum? Inquiring minds and all.

Posted by: Not A Lawyer at February 22, 2011 01:31 PM (Q5+Og)

Depends on the wording of the law/rule.  I'm guessing no, or they wouldn't have done it.

I effing hate collegiality.  How better to prove you're a lying politician, one way or the other.

246 I just want these fleeing Democrats to know that the hard-working, tax-paying American voter has received the message loud and clear! We must Democrat-proof our state legislatures in the next election cycle. Job well done.

247 >>>"Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) warned Democrats he might stop extending the courtesy of allowing them to vote by teleconference if they remain in Illinois much longer."

Hey, can I run for a Wisconsin Democrat seat? Just work from my kitchen in San Diego and carry on my work For The Children?

248 Not-Present!

249 "What Is Best In Life Right-to-Work Act of 2011".

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 22, 2011 01:33 PM (yf5H9)

"The Lamentations of the Liberals Union-Killing Act of 2011"

250 242 242
>>>"Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) warned Democrats he might stop extending the courtesy of allowing them to vote by teleconference if they remain in Illinois much longer."

And if they don't return after that, I shall issue and even more strongly worded warning, and perhaps even taunt them!  

251 While the Democrats are calling Scott Fitzerald and Gov Walker Nazis, Fitzgerald is making nice-nice with the Democrats and allowing them to vote from another state via the telephone on stuff of their choosing. Great leadership, Scott!

252

OH NO, A WARNING!!!

<faints at the harshness>

253

The 'pubs need to change the dialog. If they are accused of "busting the union" they need to reply that government workers are not in a union but in a massive kickback scheme in which employees vote their managers in and their managers reward them with raises and perks at the taxpayer's expense. This legislation is the equivalent of RICO. 

And the Governor's need to cancel the credit cards of all wayward legislators and pass every bit of legislation that will drive Dems nuts. 

254

"Depends on the wording of the law/rule.  I'm guessing no, or they wouldn't have done it."

Strikes me if a telephonic vote can be registered as taken, then the Senate has recognized the presence of a Dem Senator and thus had a quorum. Maybe the Pubbies need to call their vote and then call one the dem banditos and ask him how he would vote. Once he answers, viola, you have a quorum.

255

211 Oh, I see -- other people are allowed to get pissed at whatever trifling thing from time to time around here...but I have to "take a joke"...all the time.

Not today; I'm just not feeling it.  I want to be pissed off, ok?  Can you dig it Allen?  Can you find it in your heart to give a little lenience here?  Sometimes a person just needs to feel pissy about little things. 

And if you can't, well, frak you.

256 Completely OT but watching Rumsfeld slap Andrea Mitchell around is very pleasurable.

257 And if they don't return after that, I shall issue and even more strongly worded warning, and perhaps even taunt them!  

Posted by: GOP Committee Chair in Wisconsin at February 22, 2011 01:36 PM (K/USr)

Followed by a fart in their general direction! Hmpf!

258 No.  This is not a part-time legislature.  This is the legislatire being stopped from functioning when it is supposed to be functioning, by state law and legislative rule.
Posted by: iknowtheleft

My point was that if the Federal government can interfere with the how and when of States legislative bodies, then they would have the power to change even small details of every legislature included forbidding (AGAIN, example coming) part-time legislatures.

You're wrong. The Fed does not have to power to interfere with the how and when of a State deliberation.

Hey, either we're for a strict interpretation of the USC or we're not. No need to invent powers for the Beast of DC.

259 Posted by: arhooley at February 22, 2011 01:29 PM (QgJdL)

If I had to guess, it's because those bills would have to start from scratch.  Each "broken up" bill would have to be written and submitted, taken up by committee, presented to the floor, etc.  Even if they're moving forward on that, it can take some time to do, and if there are enough Democrats on the respective committees, they may be able to shut those down by not attending as well (I don't know about that, though).

260 What this thread needs is a photoshop by Slublog of the fleebaggers' short bus with Barry behind the wheel. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2011 12:55 PM (UOM4

Capital idea!  He could get lots of use out of it by just changing the destination sign on the front of the bus depending on which state dems are fleeing to.

261 #255 Strikes me if a telephonic vote can be registered as taken, then the Senate has recognized the presence of a Dem Senator and thus had a quorum. Maybe the Pubbies need to call their vote and then call one the dem banditos and ask him how he would vote. Once he answers, viola, you have a quorum.

Your logic is sound, which is why it probably won't work in the WI Senate. 

The Dems wouldn't have done the teleconference if they even suspected it could constitute a de facto quorum. 

262

While the Democrats are calling Scott Fitzerald and Gov Walker Nazis, Fitzgerald is making nice-nice with the Democrats and allowing them to vote from another state via the telephone on stuff of their choosing.

Great leadership, Scott!

You gotta be joking!  What is wrong with these brain dead Repubicans?

263 Oddly enough it is not comforting to know that elected Republicans *everywhere* are fools. ...a warning...that he *might* stop extending them voting privileges from their hideaway across state lines...

264

265 The real story is Illinois being a haven for these assholes.

266 Send Duane Chapman.

267 Megyn is taking on a union idiot.  Wish her pregnancy hormones would kick in to overdrive right now.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

 

Dateline: the clean-up of the sickening carnage continues here on set and for a three block radious of a TV studio where Fox anchor Megyn Kelly allegedly committed violence upon an interview subject. Authorities are loathe to cite motives, but concede that her pregnancy may have played a part. "naturally we can't make any definitive conclusions as of yet, but, speaking from personal experience, making snide comments about weight gain never sits well with any woman, particularly one which is pregnant". The officer then commented upon the nature of the attack; " I've seen people accosted or ambushed before. But to think that she reached through the TV monitor as he taunted her with chocolate and dragged him through it and into the studio there, I've never seen that in my 27 years in law enforcement".

268 I know how Ill can solve their budget crisis.  Start charging Dem state lawmakers (from other farking states) for using their state to hide in.

269 BTW, is there a possibility in Indiana for a "nuclear| option like in WI?

270 Is there any way I can transfer this hobo hunting permit to an out-of-state Democratic politician permit?  (including in-state Dems would be a plus)

271

If it were, Congress could outlaw part-time legislatures and regulate every detail regarding their sessions.

Posted by: goldbricker esq at February 22, 2011 01:21 PM (S59+B)

Of course, a lawyer would think this way, just as lawyers like to think that anything that causes one cent to move in another state qualifies every single action surrounding that to fall under the Commerce Clause and to allow the strict regulation of every single activity that each action might possibly represent. Normal people understand that this is not sane thinking.

The federal Constitution guarantees to every state a Republican form of government. A part-time legislature is part of a Republican form of government. A legislature that is stopped from operation by the people populating it refusing to work - not being sick and unable to work, not being unable to get to work ... but the representatives REFUSING to work, denies that state a Republican form of government. That is un-Constitutional, clearly.

In state, the state, itself, has the power and responsibility to right the problem. When those AWOL legislators go across state lines, it falls under the federal government's responsibility to correct, as Art IV, Sec 4 clearly states:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

272 Posted by: unknown jane at February 22, 2011 01:38 PM (5/yRG)

Feel free.  No skin of my nose.  But I'll call you on it just like I do those in CA.

Posted by: Not A Lawyer at February 22, 2011 01:38 PM (Q5+Og)

I kind of doubt that.  The Committees are (probably) not a full meeting of the senate, so appearing in committee does not (again: probably) constitute appearing in the senate itself.

But I'm on the same page as those saying: no more comity.  They can either play by the real rules as written, or go home.

273 I don't know exactly how the Democrats in WI are gonna do it, but by the end of the week the public union employees in WI will have a raise in pay.

274
Another candidate for Democrat Fleebagger Anthem

275 FYI, it can't happen in Ohio, because except for emergency legislation (which takes effect immediately, and not the usual 90 days, iirc) a quorum of both state house and state senate is a majority, and we're WELL past a simple majority in both cases.

Well, I suppose it can happen (the fleeing like little bunnies), but it won't slow things down any.

276 Listen, this could work to our advantage.  Get every Demoncrat official to flee to the same state then nuke the fucker from orbit.

It's perfect.  Bwahahahahaah!

277 Brave Sir Robin Democrats.

278 273 Thank you, but I already had a daddy -- and I don't need to be "called" on anything; besides, I don't see you "calling" on anybody, so I guess you aren't doing your self appointed job very well after all.

279
Will the new season of Dog the Bounty Hunter have close-up footage of tased and pepper sprayed Democrat lawmakers?

Preferably in HD.

280 They should start printing these guys' pictures on milk cartons.

281 O/T

Will someone please explain this to me?  My brother (yes Kemp, the idiot brother) sent this to me, but I haven't a clue as to what this is about.

Supreme Court hears soap opera story of interest to the tea party

282 The American fighters against tyranny in the 1760's and 1770's had the Liberty Tree. We have the Maple Tree -- full of sappy Republicans being led around by the Democrats by their noses.

283 I don't know exactly how the Democrats in WI are gonna do it, but by the end of the week the public union employees in WI will have a raise in pay. The pessimist in me keeps nagging about that. Well, if so we might as well pack it in and just wait for the Fed to print money.

284 "High Crimes and Misdemeanors?"  Impeach them all.

It's like the Dem's are saying "We Dem's Cannot Govorn!"

285 And, dammit, if those Democrats don't get back to Madison soon, Senator Fitzgerald might not pay for their hotel mini-bar tabs.

286 If they run from a Northern state to Kentucky, does that make them carpet fleebaggers?

287 65
If they were in the Army, they'd be AWOL conservative and patriotic. And they would show up for work.

FIFY

288 Kemperman is your brother, momma?

289 277 Listen, this could work to our advantage.  Get every Demoncrat official to flee to the same state then nuke the fucker from orbit.

'Rat trapping!  I love it!

Gaddafi has more courage than IN and WI Dems:

An eyewitness in Tripoli says she heard gunfire in the city during Gadhafi's speech - BBC http://bbc.in/gsjWCQ

290 277 Listen, this could work to our advantage.  Get every Demoncrat official to flee to the same state then nuke the fucker from orbit.

It's perfect.  Bwahahahahaah!
Posted by: mpfs

Sure there will be collateral damage but is Illinois all that important anyway?

291

Tonight on the Factor, disgusting comments from the right on this State Budget battle, showing how vicious these hate merchants on the right wing blogs can be:

Listen, this could work to our advantage.  Get every Demoncrat official to flee to the same state then nuke the fucker from orbit.

It's perfect.  Bwahahahahaah!

that was posted on a blog called Ace Of Spades, why comments like this go uncheck is something that should be stopped

another reason why we need an internet skillswitch

next on the Factor, the Legal team on a hobo suing cops!

292 yeah, I knew what you meant, momma

293 Could all the democrats just flee the whole country? Please?

They prefer to flea  fleece the country.

Posted by: maddogg at February 22, 2011 01:08 PM (OlN4e)

FIFM

294 Sure there will be collateral damage but is Illinois all that important anyway?

Posted by: mpfs at February 22, 2011 01:51 PM (iYbLN)

Rut roh..........

295 seriously 2/3 of the state's 8th graders are not at a good reading level. 2/3's?


So???  That's less than half of them!!!

296

The Dems wouldn't have done the teleconference if they even suspected it could constitute a de facto quorum.

How could the vote be possibly registered then?

297

I am sure the states of Wisconsin and Indiana are happy to trade thier Democratic lawmakers for Illinois business folks fleeing thier states.

298 Will someone please explain this to me?  My brother (yes Kemp, the idiot brother) sent this to me, but I haven't a clue as to what this is about.

Supreme Court hears soap opera story of interest to the tea party

Posted by: momma at February 22, 2011 01:48 PM (penCf)

I think they just mentioned the tea party to draw eyeballs.  Woman claims the federal prosecution violates the 10th amendment, one the tea party's favorite amendments.

299 So???  That's less than half of them!!!

Posted by: WI union math teacher at February 22, 2011 01:53 PM (/izg2)

Water on keyboard!!!  Too funny.......

300 How are the Republicans going to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

It's not a matter of how, but when.

301 beedub, Alcee Hastings just called and wants to answer your question: "Rules? We have no rules. We make this shit up as we go along, heheheheh."

302

How could the vote be possibly registered then?

Posted by: beedubya at February 22, 2011 01:54 PM (AnTyA)

Maybe a conference or committee vote?  Maybe the Chairman can waive the procedural requirements?

303

This is the second state cleared of Democrats. If we can get all state Democratic legislators to flee to Illinois, the other 49 states will be in a lot better shape.

 

Uh, 57 states.

304

How could the vote be possibly registered then?

I haven't a blessed clue.  I'm just a moron, and nuances of State Senate Parliamentary procedures escapes me. 

305 How long will it be beforte some intrepid Democrat governor declares his state a "sanctuary state" for runaway democrats?
They could start an "underground railroad" and everything! Make an adventure out of it. 

306 seriously 2/3 of the state's 8th graders are not at a good reading level. 2/3's?


So???  That's less than half of them!!!

Posted by: WI union math teacher at February 22, 2011 01:53 PM (/izg2)

That's right, WI.  And my genius moves in education will reduce that figure by 3000%, in addition, if we can just stop these tea-baggers and not let this crisis go to waste.

307 Dude!  Waaay o/t, but Rush just played a clip of Obama giving a speech in 2008 as he was running for President talking about how he was a Community Organizer for SEIU and how they were worthy of trusting to lead the fight--he said "I got my purple windbreaker, SEIU I'm glad you're with me, let's change the country together."--and led a chant of SEIU, SEIU, SEIU, SEIU"

308

I can predict how the R's will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory:

"The last time a prolonged walk-out happened in the Indiana legislature was in the mid-1990s, when Republicans were in control and tried to draw new legislative district maps, eliminating a district that likely would have been a Democrat one, in the middle of the decade. Democrats won that standoff, staying away several days until Republicans dropped the plan."

309 On the underpaid teachers calc thingy -- I paid $10k/year (50 weeks) for full time daycare, 7 am to 6 pm, 2 children. It costs, what, around $15k/year per student to have them in public school for 9 months, 8 am to 3 pm, plus I still have to help provide the building for it.
 
Looks more like we are overpaying by 4x plus for 'school daycare', aka public schooling. Leftard math sucks like they do. Hard.
 

310 A bus full of Dems At the bottom of a cliff A good start for sure

311

O/T:  This Food is Disgusting.  First Sasquatch's lunch recommendations result in Chicago Public Schools' drop in sales.

312 We corral all democrats in Illinois. Then we build a wall 500 feet high.

313 How could the vote be possibly registered then? I haven't a blessed clue. I'm just a moron, and nuances of State Senate Parliamentary procedures escapes me. It seems to be like sales tax laws. Infinitely malleable. Ever had a sales tax audit or dealings with a sales tax entity? You quickly learn the rules mean next to nothing. Every person gives you a different answer. The distressing thing is it seems Demotards play "bend the rules" constantly while Republicans tread like frightened sheep. Remember when everyone thought the Scott Brown victory killed Obastardcare? "They can only pass it in the dead of night, with reconciliation. It'll never happen." Fast forward to today.

314 Posted by: plain ol soothsayer at February 22, 2011 01:50 PM (uFokq)


My brother is a Rachel MadCow-regurgitater libidiot that doesn't think the same 'standards' that he 'applies' to Republicans should also be 'applied' to Dems.

I a Dem and a Pub were dipping their balls in puddin', my brother would say the Pub was wasting food, making a mess, not sharing, etc.

He's say the Dem was doing it for the good of the Country, cleaning up the Repub.'s mess, and if the Dem then had one of his young female staffers crawl under his Congressional desk to clean off the puddin', my (idiot) brother would say, 'See, Sharing is a good thing.' or 'Dems are always trying to help out.  See, she must have been hungry and couldn't afford dinner.'

So Kemp loves to point out that brother is an idiot. 

315 Great!  Now if a couple more states' Democrats will only do the same, they will be all set for 2012!

What a bunch of fools . . . but I guess when your union leg-breakers say "GO!" you don't hang around packing up your dainties . . .

316 Posted by: Downscaled Upscale at February 22, 2011 01:59 PM (IhHdM)

So you're saying they're sort of like 17th and 18th century doctors.  Bleed the patient (real blood and money), and if the desired result doesn't occur, throw your hands up, say "God's will" and leave.

317 They call themselves "Democrats" but refusing to debate and vote is fundamentally un-democratic. But not allowing people to opt out of unions is fundamentally Ⓓemocratic.

318 237 Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker warned Tuesday that state employees could start receiving layoff notices as early as next week if a bill eliminating most collective bargaining rights isn't passed soon.

Walker said in a statement to The Associated Press that the layoffs wouldn't take effect immediately. He didn't say which workers would be targeted but he has repeatedly warned that up to 1,500 workers could lose their jobs by July if his proposal isn't passed.

"Hopefully we don't get to that point," Walker said.

It could take weeks or even months to lay off workers under the terms of their current union contracts.

Posted by: momma at February 22, 2011 01:30 PM (penCf)

You know what?? It should get to this point. No matter how much you negotiate with the beast that is state and federal government/unions the longer they stay. They are like a bad case of poison ivy the more you scratch the worse it gets. Does a state the size of WI. realy need 300,000+ employees and their 300,000+ pension plans. This is the Rupubes chance to REALLY cut the fat and largess that is killing the states.  

 

319 scorecard:

Wisconsin democrat legislators have run away to Illinois
Indiana democrat legislators have run away to Illinois

Seems Illinois is the haven for runaway teens legislators

320

From RushBabe's link:

 

“If they’re going to feed us healthy, they need to feed us something good that’s healthy,” said Mijoy Roussell, a Claremont Academy sixth-grader who replaced lunch with a candy packet. “This food is disgusting, which is why I’m not eating lunch.”

 

So how many of these low-income, free lunch kids are going without a mid-day meal?  It would be interesting to know.  And how much food is being thrown away and wasted at the end of the day?  Ah, liberals.  The road to Hell is paved with Nanny State Intentions, replete with all kinds of unintended consequences.  I predict a precipitous drop in already low test scores and school performance as hungry children can't focus because they didn't eat Moochelle's crappy lunch.

 

 

321

This is a stunning capitulation of democracy. Jamming the system by refusing to show up for work seems to be the common denominator here.

 

322 So how many of these low-income, free lunch kids are going without a mid-day meal?  It would be interesting to know.  And how much food is being thrown away and wasted at the end of the day?  Ah, liberals.  The road to Hell is paved with Nanny State Intentions, replete with all kinds of unintended consequences.  I predict a precipitous drop in already low test scores and school performance as hungry children can't focus because they didn't eat Moochelle's crappy lunch.

Read the comments.  There's one from a janitor who says he throws the stuff away 'by the barrel full' and the kids leave hungry.

323

This is a stunning capitulation of democracy. Jamming the system by refusing to show up for work seems to be the common denominator here.

 

These guys need to be fired (just like they would be in the private sector).  When are people going to start filing some recall petitions?  I also say the governors should start laying off their staff and pulling back their benefits.  Think of the thousands of dollars that all this is going to cost state governments.

324

You know what?? It should get to this point. No matter how much you negotiate with the beast that is state and federal government/unions the longer they stay. They are like a bad case of poison ivy the more you scratch the worse it gets. Does a state the size of WI. realy need 300,000+ employees and their 300,000+ pension plans. This is the Rupubes chance to REALLY cut the fat and largess that is killing the states.  

Posted by: dananjcon at February 22, 2011 02:03 PM (pr+up)

This Is My Truth.  And if I had ever seen Republicans strategerize before, I might say this is what they're angling for.  As it is, they'll somehow think that laying off 1500 Democrats and reducing the cost of government will hurt them among their constituents opposition.

I'm still waiting to meet my first eeevil, ruthless, cutthroat Republican. 

325 So does Indiana have a recall provision?

326 So how long before the US House Dems say 'Hey, this is a great idea! Canada, here we come!'

327 RushBabe@213

Louise Esaian, who oversees the school districtÂ’s food service program, said it is challenging to introduce new concepts to students.

“We are thrilled that 70 percent of CPS students choose to eat lunch at school,” she said. “While there has been a slight decline in participation, it does not reflect the measurable and positive gains we have made as a school district in making improvements to the nutritional quality of our school breakfast and lunch programs.” 

....sez Moochelle's minion.

328 And how much food is being thrown away and wasted at the end of the day?

Doesn't matter.  It's not about feeding kids, it's about another revenue stream.

And dependency, which gets votes.

329

Read the comments.  There's one from a janitor who says he throws the stuff away 'by the barrel full' and the kids leave hungry.

 

Si!  Jus throwing away the lunches the keeds refuse to eat. 

330

321 It's because of our damn governor (who, I might add, did not win the majority of counties in IL...but I forgot, we're all lefty parasite scum here and of no importance, not like people in other states, who are wonderful).

Of course, WI and IN aren't playing an important card:  make an announcement, requesting the state of IL cooperate in getting these runaway legislators back home and doing their job...and keep doing so until it becomes a PR nightmare for not only the runaway legislators, but for the legislators (especially Quinn) here in IL.  The Republicans outnumber the Dems here, so it is possible to put the PR pressure on Quinn.

But what do I know?  I'm just one of those troglodyte Illinoisians who lives in an insane state.

331 The collective bargaining and mandatory union dues are the lynchpins that keep the whole runaway train connected. I saw what you did there.

332 Wonder how much the catering comp donated to Dem campaigns the last few years?

333 I'm sure Moochelle's girls eat peas, carrots and broccoli for lunch everyday. 

334

Si!  Jus throwing away the lunches the keeds refuse to eat. 

Posted by: Juan Valdez, School Janitor at February 22, 2011 02:09 PM (ihSHD)

Thank you for doing the hard work American citizens refuse to do.

335

My brother is a Rachel MadCow-regurgitater libidiot that doesn't think the same 'standards' that he 'applies' to Republicans should also be 'applied' to Dems.

  Posted by: momma

 

Invite him to come on over to play. We haven't ripped anyone apart since...yesterday.

336

Progressive Lawmakers Union Approved Motto:

"We're Haulin Ass for the Working Class."

337 332

321 It's because of our damn governor (who, I might add, did not win the majority of counties in IL...but I forgot, we're all lefty parasite scum here and of no importance, not like people in other states, who are wonderful).

Please.  I have family and friends living in Illinois, and our son's oldest, best friend lives there.

When Georgia (who gave the world Jimmuh and Cynthia McKinney) acts stupid, I'll be the first to suggest we nuke us from space.  (Just give me a few days head start to get out!)

338 Posted by: runningrn at February 22, 2011 02:05 PM (ihSHD)

could see this coming a mile away. someone show me a single example of liberal nannyhood that ever improved the situation of those it was foisted on.

339 334 Wonder how much the catering comp donated to Dem campaigns the last few years?
Posted by: momma at February 22, 2011 02:11 PM (penCf)

I'm sure its written into the state law somehow.

340 Aren't these Dems in violation of the Mann Act?  Something about prostitutes crossing state lines?

341

339 Jane, considering events in the past, you should not be trying to talk me out of being pissed off.

Which I am -- because I can and today's the day.

342

And in spite of my snarky ass mood, I still believe I came out with a good idea:

put PR pressure on Quinn; he's a sneaky pussyass chump mofo and one dealing with a Republican majority in the state legislature as well as an increasingly angry electorate; get his aiding and abetting ass out there in the spotlight (right around the Chicago mayoral elections too...); paint these runaway Dems as being cozy with him and the Chicago Machine wouldn't hurt either

343 Let's fast forward about 15 months into an alternative universe, one in which the goals of conservative Republican lawmakers in WI, OH, and IN have been achieved, and the dust has settled.

Hard into all the varying spin of the 2012 presidential campaign, comes news and followup of fiscal matters in these states, all fairly good.

How does this play in the polling?

344

328 So how long before the US House Dems say 'Hey, this is a great idea! Canada, here we come!'

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid will do all the dirty work for them, so they don't need to leave.

345 Yeah, my nephew posted that "let's pay teachers like babysitters!!1!" screed on Facebook.

He recently graduated from college with a journalism degree.  Now he's working as a teacher in Wisconsin on some government program that's going to pay off his $35,000+ in student loans in exchange for two years of work (plus full salary and benefits).

346 My nephew was a good, level-headed kid before he went to college.

Now he's a Leftist.

347 Wow 6.6 million dollars will be paid out in sick time if all the teachers that didn't come to school in WI the last several days get paid, as per Rush.  Unbelievable.

348 Oh look as the demacratic donkey morphs into a chicken and runs away

349 He recently graduated from college with a journalism degree.  Now he's working as a teacher in Wisconsin on some government program that's going to pay off his $35,000+ in student loans in exchange for two years of work (plus full salary and benefits).

Posted by: Kensington at February 22, 2011 02:31 PM (mEyVv)

Oh no.  Journalism school is where my lib sis went off the deep end. 

350 When Georgia (who gave the world Jimmuh and Cynthia McKinney) acts stupid, I'll be the first to suggest we nuke us from space.

They can start with Atlanta, just let my Aunt and Uncle get out of Austell first.

Target ground zero at the CNN building.

351 on some government program that's going to pay off his $35,000+ in student loans in exchange for two years of work (plus full salary and benefits).


Is that a state or federal program?  Either way, it needs to be killed.

352 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2011 02:42 PM (UOM4

It's even worse; my nephew is a committed Catholic, so they fused liberal indoctrination with "social justice" dogma and made him an evangelical Leftist.

I can't see how he'll ever be able to come back from that.  I'd hoped that getting a job after college might help, but he went and got a job working for the government providing an obscenely unrealistic benefit (the student loan forgiveness for two years work).

I don't even think he'll notice that Obama's been a miserable failure so far.

353 They can start with Atlanta, just let my Aunt and Uncle get out of Austell first.

Only if they also move the Coca-Cola Corporate Offices.  Nothing is worth nuking Coca-Cola.  Even Honey Badgers care about Coke.  Especially the stuff you can still get from Mexico that has real sugar in it.

354 Kensington, I'm really sorry.  My sister was a sweet, level-headed, conservative, Christian girl when she went off to J-school at Univ. of SC.

Within a year, she had totally changed.  Would come home and get into terrible arguments with our dad, who seemed at first mildly amused, but later kept his opinions and feelings to himself.

She is an admitted Socialist now, and atheist.  You cannot have a conversation with her about anything except her dog without wanted to kill yourself. 

Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.

355 Posted by: HeatherRadish at February 22, 2011 02:46 PM (nAOMZ)

I'm not sure about that specific example, but Texas has one, too.  It requires that you teach in an "underprivileged" school district for X years (2 as well, maybe?) and you do have to keep up your loan payments, but then the Government (State or Fed, I'm not sure) will pay of the remainder.

356 @356

wanted = wanting

357 Liberalism truly is a mental disorder.

Apparently a contagious one, at that.  Who knew you could contract Stupid just from going to school?

That's it: the next crusade: Safe Education ("We know you're all going to go to college.  Here's how to go to college and not get stupid.")

358 HeatherRadish@353:
"Is that a state or federal program?  Either way, it needs to be killed."

Whoops!  I'm wrong.  It's called "Teach for America," and apparently it's a nonprofit, not a government, organization.

359 they fused liberal indoctrination with "social justice" dogma and made him an evangelical Leftist.

That's pretty much every leftist in the SF bay area. It never fails - any time I admit to being a Republican or conservative someone offers to "help me get over it." The next one is going to hear, "Great! And I'd like to talk to you about Jesus!"

360 AllenG, maybe it has something to do with J-school?  Look at all the libs in the media.

361 Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 22, 2011 02:55 PM (UOM4

Could be, except that my fairly conservative Brothers both went and got degrees and now are fairly liberal (not as bad as some siblings, apparently, but I still roll my eyes a lot).  Maybe the common denominator there is they all got Liberal Arts type degrees.  One was an English Major, the other was fine with his original degree (Bible: Youth and Family Ministry) but then got his Alternative Teaching Certification and went nuts.

362

What is that word Democrats call the House Republicans when they don't go along with Obammy's agenda?  Oh yeah - obstructionists.  Why don't I see that word used to describe the fleebaggers that are running away to stymie the political proces?

Oh crap, never mind.  The MBM would never consider anything like that because the obstructionist fleebaggers are really heroes fighting against the union-busting policies of the evil Republicans.  That is the lefty angle, and that is what the MBM will spew.

363 We've got balls, and we got cars, fuck you peoples that votes us out!

This is not going to work, we going to put a dick up your ass.

Got that? 

364 Welcome to Illinois, the Brazil of the Rust Belt...

365 This is really a stupid play.  Leave them alone and let them fuck up.

God Bless stupid fucking democrats!

366 342 Aren't these Dems in violation of the Mann Act?  Something about prostitutes crossing state lines?

Posted by: glide at February 22, 2011 02:17 PM (Z2aee)

WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER!!

367 Welcome to Illinois, the Brazil of the Rust Belt...

Posted by: richard mcenroe

 

I kinda like this entry.

368 Per Eric Zorn of the Chicago Tribune, these brave souls are carrying on in the fine legacy of no less than Abraham Lincoln as Lincoln once hid in a tavern across from the State House to avoid a quorum. 

369 WI legislature should IMMEDIATELY pass voter ID and registration at least 30 days prior to election. 

Next?  Redistrict these bastards out of office.  GET this done, ASAP. 

I swear a redistricting vote will get these bastards back to Madison in counting, 5,4,3,2,....

370 OK, this should be a thread!  Any co bloggers awake.

Piss you off??

http://tinyurl.com/48dvtno

371 OK, I know STATE representatives are wholly distinct from NATIONAL representatives, but still...   Don't you remember a couple of years ago (right after Mr. OhBummer acceded to office) when the Repubs of both houses at the national level wanted to have a voice, be able to debate, submit amendments etc, and were told in essence "We won.  We're running the show.  You can stay and watch or you can go home.  We're going to do things OUR way.  Shut up and get used to it."

So here we are at the state level, and now that the Demo-wimps don't have a guaranteed win, they aren't willing to abide by the democratic process.  The shiftless SOBs figure they'll just skip out and prevent business from being conducted.  If they were stand-up guys, they would BE THERE in the state house, arguing passionately against the bill, being sure their constituents KNEW they were fighting the good fight on their behalf, maybe even getting some amendment or modification adopted.  But, noooo. 

Is this the first step in the total breakdown of our political process?  We've been patting ourselves on the back for our Constitution and our method of providing "orderly, peaceful change in government" via elections (after all, for over 200 years --up till now-- the losers have stepped aside and gamely congratulated the victors and everybody keeps working together for the good of the country and its citizens).  But now -- is that over?   Is the Union-vs-Management mentality now infecting government?  "If you don't make concessions, we'll go on strike and your business (ie, government processes) will grind to a halt.  HA!"

At some point, the missing legislators need to be fired for dereliction of duty.  Just like the air traffic controllers of however-many decades ago: "You don't want to show up for work? -- OK, we'll find other people who will be happy to do those jobs.  Don't let the door hit ya on the way out - buh-bye!!"

372 #29 posted by curious at February 22, 2011 12:34 PM

" ... Rush ... said they have to go to a state with a democratic governor or they will be arrested ... "?
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So, this is another reason for the Soros-backed "Secretary of State Project", eh?  Not just to rule against any investigations into "voting irregularities", but to provide safe havens for Democrat state legislators who skip town to avoid playing by the rules.

We "Tea Party Conservatives" have a long, hard slog ahead of us if we ever hope to re-establish "rule of law which applies equally to all", don't we?   =[sigh]=

373 Lincoln once hid in a tavern across from the State House to avoid a quorum.

Actually according to that book I reviewed last Sunday he and his cohorts jumped out a window and fled to break the quorum needed to pass a law forbidding public money from being spent on private "improvement projects".

374 Why is this not a "GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN" with all the weeping and gnashing of teeth that attends that term?

375

My brother is a Rachel MadCow-regurgitater libidiot that doesn't think the same 'standards' that he 'applies' to Republicans should also be 'applied' to Dems.

Posted by: momma

Invite him to come on over to play. We haven't ripped anyone apart since...yesterday.

Posted by: Blue Hen © at February 22, 2011 02:13 PM (R2fpr)

Yeah, Momma. Have him sign up, get into the conversation.

I haven't made anybody cry since Saturday.

376 376 Why is this not a "GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN" with all the weeping and gnashing of teeth that attends that term?

Posted by: kidney at February 22, 2011 03:33 PM (3j6OS)

Hello? Democrats?

You have to remember the MBM and the Democrats are not separate entities, and neither one of them have a sense of honesty or honor.

And they prove that every day.

377 Is this the first step in the total breakdown of our political process? We've been patting ourselves on the back for our Constitution and our method of providing "orderly, peaceful change in government" via elections (after all, for over 200 years --up till now-- the losers have stepped aside and gamely congratulated the victors and everybody keeps working together for the good of the country and its citizens). But now -- is that over?

Posted by: A_Nonny_Mouse at February 22, 2011 03:22 PM (hq0VE)

It's been over for a long time, the left has been underhandedly enacting illegal policies, throwing temper tantrums, interfering with the election process from one end to the other and generally ignoring the law and the people for decades.

They used to just get away with it because the papers didn't report it or lied about it (still do), but now we can talk about it on teh intarwebs.

Oh, yeah, it's worse than it was, but the idea's not new. How famous are the left for the "recount until we win" thing? That's not new, neither is gerrymandering, neither is voter fraud (Hello? Chicago?).

We just used to live with the polite fiction that they were unruly partners instead of saboteurs.

378 Gov. Mitch Daniels signaled this afternoon that Republicans should to drop the right-to-work bill that has brought the Indiana House to a standstill for two days and imperiled other measures.

He was on my list of potential candidates to support. He is history now. This is BS.

379

Posted by: Vic at February 22, 2011 04:08 PM (M9Ie6)

Yep.  Daniels is done.

380

Indiana wants me, Lord I can't go back there.  1970 = 2011

Youtube song w/ video

381 Running to Illinois?  No, dammit!  This state needs more Democrats like Michelle Obama needs another bucket of ribs!

382 I read that the legislature in Florida is looking to pass a bill involving Unions... so that may be the next state to shed all Democratic politicians in a mass exodus out of state...

I'm not sure I understand how this works... if all the Democratic politicians run away from their jobs is that really a bad thing?  Two states down, 48 to go; then maybe we can get D.C. to follow suit.

383 #380  Vic, Daniels told the legislature that he didn't want them to bring this up until after the rest of his bills had been passed.  Two of the bills are state-wide vouchers for all (which will completely upend the educational establishment) and a bill to automatically refund any surplus tax revenue after the budget has been met (which will keep the democrats,  if they ever regain power,   from spending all extra revenue and starting new programs,  which they always insist should be funded in perpetuity).

The legislature,  overreaching and under pressure from the Chamber of Commerce (not the sharpest knives n the drawer) started this bill through.  It is a Right to Work bill.  Daniels already got collective bargaining for state employees banned through an executive order (since the original bill allowing collective bargaining had been done through executive order by Evan Bayh).

Indiana,   unlike Wisconsin,  requires a quorum on every bill passed,  not just on financial issues.  As long as the democrats are missing,  no legislation will pass (including the vouchers and the automatic tax refund).  And we are half-way though our very short (90 days) legislative session.

Daniels was right in what he said,  because RTW is not a priority compared to the other bills which could be passed if the democrats were in town.

384 385 Thanks for the knowledge; if that's the case, then he's acting sensibly and shouldn't be pilloried for it. (you might want to cut and paste this on some of the other threads up top).

385 unknown jane,  I have been explaining this all day to bloggers,  pundits,  and posters everywhere I see a discussion.  It's maddening,  because no one has bothered to see what our legislature's requirements are,  nor what bills are being stopped due to the democrats leaving in response to this bill being brought out.

I will cut and paste.  Thanks for the suggestions.

386

99% percent of you are pure idiots. I do like the quote at the top of the page though.  maybe you can all line up while I go and get my knife.

387 while I go and get my knife.

Heh.  As if.

388 Here is sit broken hearted, came to vote but they departed.

389

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