November 16, 2011

Resumes and work experience... (tmi3rd)
— Open Blogger

Good afternoon, folks. As Ace runs an errand, I thought I'd toss something past you. And don't worry, it's not the usual marathon-length stuff I throw out.

Something interesting came across my desk in the past couple of days. It was an impressive entry-level rèsumè, with a bunch of big schools on it. Check this out…

B.A. in history with honors, Stanford University

Master of Philosophy in International Relations, Oxford

Master of Public Health, Columbia University

Currently pursuing a doctorate in public administration at NYU

What kind of gig do you suppose this person would be looking for?


Well, if you guessed this person wanted to be a politician, youÂ’d be right. If you guessed this person comes from major-league money, youÂ’d also be right. And if you guessed this person just landed a gig completely unrelated to any of the education listed above, congratulations, you just hit the trifecta.

This person just landed a gig on the NBC Nightly News. Her name is Chelsea Clinton.

Her Wikipedia page notes that she started off in pre-medicine, with a chemistry major, then switched over to history. (LetÂ’s not throw too many stones there- science degrees, particularly chemistry and physics, run off a lot of good students.) The resume is impressive. HereÂ’s where I start getting unhappy.

First of all, IÂ’d take the masterÂ’s in public health seriously if sheÂ’d done any clinical work of consequence. Instead, she wound up working for a think tank called McKinsey and Company- theyÂ’re officially a consulting group for public administration- and then wound up with Avenue Capital Group, a hedge fund. She wound up on the board of the School of American Ballet (sheÂ’s got a ballet background), and is now on the board of directors of IAC (a significant Internet company).

Now, IÂ’m living proof that you can do really well in journalism without a degree in it, but the contrast is that I started in a small market (Lake Charles, LA), then made a jump to market #30 (Nashville), and had a chance to move on to a top-ten market (Dallas/Fort Worth) before deciding to get out. Clinton, on the other hand, abruptly has a key feature reporter gig with the NBC Nightly News with zero experience in journalism.

Digging a little bit further into the work experience- the hedge fund management (and I canÂ’t find any details on how much real work she actually did on it) sets her up financially quite well. The ballet gig gives her a tax shelter- she can make big contributions and use them for tax deductions. SheÂ’s on the board of directors at the Internet company- is there a qualification IÂ’m not aware of that made her the right person for that gig?

Some folks in the industry are taking note, as well.
Brian Stelter at the New York Times notes some serious discomfort in the industry about someone devoid of experience jumping right into the national stuff.

So what are we seeing? Simply put, NBC is helping groom Chelsea to run for office. They may teach her to write for television a bit, but she'll have a whole production crew all to herself, and that includes writers. Combine that with the fact that she has a history of being very media-hostile, and thereÂ’s very little indication thus far that sheÂ’s inherited her fatherÂ’s charisma. If she doesnÂ’t improve her dealings with the media, it wonÂ’t matter how good she looks in the public eye- she wonÂ’t be able to get much higher than the low rungs of national office.

Long-term, however, make no mistake- if Chelsea Clinton grows some charisma and ease with the media, a Congressional run is the lowest level sheÂ’ll take a shot at. There are already mumbles of a Senate run, and if she has her motherÂ’s ambition, then yeah, here comes the presidential run.

This is an effective use of the liberal infrastructure- four degrees from a whoÂ’s who list of Ivy League schools, a Wall Street gig, a gig at a liberal think tank, and now charm school at NBC. I say this with no bitterness- the Clintons are using the assets they have at their disposal to build a potent political weapon (and that includes the facial work Chelsea had done in her late teens and early 20s). Take note of this- this is what it currently takes to be part of the aristocracy. This, ultimately, is why you see kids of otherwise conservative politicos going to ivy League schools. Is the education any better than they'd get at State U? Debatable. But it's still the ticket into the big club.

More on the aristocracy to come...

-tmi3rd

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1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 12:12 PM (8y9MW)

2 Good afternoon, folks. As Ace runs an errand


Is that l33t speak for "dumps the hobo bodies?"

Posted by: © Sponge at November 16, 2011 12:13 PM (UK9cE)

3 I wouldn't consider that resume to be shit. A bunch of degrees in fluff courses just means she had the wherewithal to attend a lot of classes.

I wouldn't hire her for a real job,but then news is not a real job.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 12:13 PM (YdQQY)

4 OccuTard?

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 16, 2011 12:13 PM (OhYCU)

5 If I can do it, anybody can.

Posted by: Scott Pelley at November 16, 2011 12:14 PM (QKKT0)

6 B.A. in history with honors, Stanford University

Master of Philosophy in International Relations, Oxford

Master of Public Health, Columbia University

Currently pursuing a doctorate in public administration at NYU


And likely paid for with YOUR TAX DOLLARS!!!!!

YAY!!!!  WE need MORE Clinton's in our lives.

Posted by: © Sponge at November 16, 2011 12:14 PM (UK9cE)

7 Did she list her time with that 1% hedge fund?

Posted by: Cherry pi at November 16, 2011 12:14 PM (OhYCU)

8 What the hell is Philosophy in International Relations?

Posted by: Rich at November 16, 2011 12:14 PM (ldOlo)

9 It ain't the way I wanted it! I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!

Posted by: Chelsea Clinton at November 16, 2011 12:15 PM (QKKT0)

10 If I can do it, anybody can.

Posted by: Scott Pelley at November 16, 2011 04:14 PM (QKKT0)

THREAD WINNER

Posted by: AuthorLMendez Is Offering $ To ace If He Bans Curious/Sky at November 16, 2011 12:15 PM (yAor6)

11 McKinsey and Company is NOT a think tank. They are a very successful consulting firm that happens to have a public sector practice. She made a lot of money as an associate consultant at McKinsey.

Posted by: Ricki at November 16, 2011 12:15 PM (xHKos)

12 Nausea

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 16, 2011 12:15 PM (ennG6)

13 What the hell is Philosophy in International Relations?

Posted by: Rich at November 16, 2011 04:14 PM (ldOlo)


I hired those guys by the shitload.

Posted by: Genghis Khan at November 16, 2011 12:15 PM (QKKT0)

14 Oh, and lets not forget this little tart REFUSES to talk to the media, always has and STILL DOES.

Epic hypocrisy.  I hope everyone she interviews or attempt to talk to tells her to pound sand.

Posted by: © Sponge at November 16, 2011 12:16 PM (UK9cE)

15 tmi3rd did you know Hector San Miguel in Lake Charles?

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at November 16, 2011 12:16 PM (uzJmj)

16 How does her resume stack up versus other American "royalty" such as the junior Kennedys and Bushes?

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at November 16, 2011 12:16 PM (1+CnU)

17 Someone the other day noted that NBC News has a tendency to hire "lucky sperm" (they also hired Megan McCain recently).  I'm hoping for the comedy bonus of Chelsea and Megs debating something.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 16, 2011 12:16 PM (tqwMN)

18 Rush was talking about this yesterday.  I have to say, I really give it a "meh."  Either she'll do well- in which case it was a pretty good gamble, or she'll tank. 

I do agree that this was probably NBC doing the Clintons a solid, but if she doesn't do well, I don't expect they'll just keep her on forever.

And, quite frankly, I couldn't care less about Chelsey Clinton if I tried.

Of course, it would have been nice if the media had considered the resume of one Barack Obama (who is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure) even this deeply (which is to say: not very) back in 2008.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 12:17 PM (8y9MW)

19
Buddy the Dog.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at November 16, 2011 12:17 PM (QMtmy)

20 it's a phd in international relations...

Posted by: so glad i wasn't born a lefty puke at November 16, 2011 12:17 PM (nvxtD)

21 Like, you really do, ya know, have to have a special talent for this kind of work.  You can't just, like, waltz into it and stuff.

Posted by: Meghan McCain at November 16, 2011 12:17 PM (QKKT0)

22 polynikes- Yeah, I worked with his wife at KPLC.

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 12:17 PM (WRtsc)

23
There is currently a placeholder in Hillary's old senate seat just waiting for her.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 16, 2011 12:18 PM (JYheX)

24 I'm hoping for the comedy bonus of Chelsea and Megs debating something.

Put that on pay-per-view.  Is it possible for both parties to lose a debate?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 12:18 PM (8y9MW)

25 Maybe she uh, um, can like be uh, like New uh York's um next uh great um white hope. Uh.

Posted by: Caroline Uh Um Kennedy at November 16, 2011 12:19 PM (3bLrJ)

26 I'm hoping for the comedy bonus of Chelsea and Megs debating something.

Not much of a debate, unless Chelsea is as much a Democrat as Megs is a Republican.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at November 16, 2011 12:19 PM (bjRNS)

27 Can Chessie Walk any better than Caroline?
I seem to remember her running/ not running, maybe wanting a Senate seat. 

Posted by: Pecos at November 16, 2011 12:19 PM (2Gb0y)

28 AllenG- This isn't a gig for her to become a good reporter, this is a gig to teach her how to talk to reporters and make friendly media contacts. Jenna Bush has a once-a-month gig with NBC to do a package on education, but her degrees are in education and there's no indication she plans to run for office. Clinton, on the other hand, has every intention of running for office.

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 12:20 PM (WRtsc)

29 Chelsea had facial work done? Really?

Posted by: magnolia at November 16, 2011 12:20 PM (qi2/V)

30 It looks like they learned their lesson with Princess Caroline Kennedy.  You can't just have the name anymore.  Someone will have to train the entitlement off of her surface.

Posted by: mark reardon at November 16, 2011 12:21 PM (PvHWv)

31 What movie had President Chelsea Clinton?

Posted by: Lauren at November 16, 2011 12:21 PM (VKD8C)

32 Chelsea had facial work done? Really?

Posted by: magnolia at November 16, 2011 04:20 PM (qi2/V)


It comes with the job.

Posted by: Monica Lewinski at November 16, 2011 12:21 PM (QKKT0)

33 Yes, it's an unofficial aristocracy. She doesn't have to have talent or brains, she just has to have money, connections, and a name people respect/fear. She's got all of the above, so she goes to the front of the line. To cool the fires of my rage I just keep repeating to myself "Her mom is Hillary Clinton" and I start to feel pity for her.

Posted by: joncelli, reluctant Perry supporter at November 16, 2011 12:22 PM (RD7QR)

34
She seems to be missing the West Point or Annapolis education. I'd give her a lot more credit if she had even joined the reserve.  Or hell worked as a candy striper.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 16, 2011 12:22 PM (JYheX)

35 2 Good afternoon, folks. As Ace runs an errand


Is that l33t speak for "dumps the hobo bodies?"

Posted by: © Sponge at November 16, 2011 04:13 PM (UK9cE)

 

Ace is returning some video tapes.

Posted by: wooga at November 16, 2011 12:22 PM (vjyZP)

36

Some things never change - it's not what you know, but who you know. The first is irrelevant, the second crucial.

 

 

Posted by: West at November 16, 2011 12:22 PM (1Rgee)

37 #22 he was one of those really good investigative journalist with no college degree. I miss my friend. F cancer.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at November 16, 2011 12:23 PM (uzJmj)

38 I liked her when she looked like the Cowardly Lion.  She was a cute child.

Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at November 16, 2011 12:23 PM (GTbGH)

39 Magnolia, Chelsea had a significant septoplasty/rhinoplasty (in other words, a major-league nose job) and they reshaped her chin. If you go back and look at her teenage pics to now, the difference is striking... and handmade.

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 12:23 PM (WRtsc)

40 Didn't her new husband try to dump her, like days after they were married? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Posted by: Dave at November 16, 2011 12:23 PM (Xm1aB)

41 Getting to the "top" has always been a factor of who you know, and in the case of some women, who you blow. Also through in a little bit of luck with the right place at the right time syndrome.

But yes, knowledge and a hard work ethic will get you ahead and to a mid-level position. Just not to the "top".

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 12:23 PM (YdQQY)

42 This isn't a gig for her to become a good reporter, this is a gig to teach her how to talk to reporters and make friendly media contacts.

And?

My point was- either she'll get good at it (which, if so, she would have eventually anyway) or she won't (in which case she'll get let go).

If she was going to get good at it, she could certainly have started as a mayor or member of a city council, speaking to that media (out of necessity) and getting better at it as she moved up the rung.  The same is true here, and at least taxpayer dollars aren't going to pay for her to learn those skills- she'll sink or swim on her own merits.

Really, I don't have a problem with it.  Is it irksome since it is so obviously nepotism and privilege?  Yeah.  But I don't watch NBC much (except for Sunday Night Football) anyway.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 12:23 PM (8y9MW)

43 tmi3rd, I always read your name as "timid"

Posted by: Truman North at November 16, 2011 12:23 PM (I2LwF)

44 I think they gave one of the Bush girls a job, too.

Posted by: Tim at November 16, 2011 12:24 PM (xq7pr)

45 Well, NBC also has Jenna Bush doing little fluff pieces for them (and probably making a shit-ton of money). Whatever you think of Dubya, he sired a perky little airhead there....

Chelsea Clinton appears to be operating the good ol' Clinton Way: hooking up with connected people who intervene so you never have to do any real work and can still live high on the hog.

hope by the time she reaches Age 35 Congress has already passed the No More Clintons or Bushes in Public Office Act.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 16, 2011 12:24 PM (HkOAc)

46 Polynikes, he and Teresa was and are good friends of ours. He was a treasured colleague, a damn good (and honest) reporter, and I know what you mean on both fronts.

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 12:24 PM (WRtsc)

47 As Ace runs an errand,
He's getting Perry some water?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 16, 2011 12:24 PM (/VGq8)

48 @37 This is a hard thing to teach your children, but I think you abdicate your parental responsibilities if you fail to discuss this with them. Sucks having to explain to your kids how fucked up the world is.

Posted by: Dave at November 16, 2011 12:25 PM (Xm1aB)

49 18 I do agree that this was probably NBC doing the Clintons a solid, but if she doesn't do well, I don't expect they'll just keep her on forever.
_________

You're one of them "glass half full" guys, aren't you?

Posted by: Anachronda at November 16, 2011 12:25 PM (FzhYM)

50 Good afternoon, folks. As Ace runs an errand

Ace runs an influential blog like this and he doesn't have minions for this sort of thing?  Every important person should have some minions.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at November 16, 2011 12:25 PM (QKKT0)

51 There is a picture of Obama on Drudge. He looks like an idiot and the appropriate caption would be "Yea I pumped the neighbor's dog...What of it man" !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Wall-E at November 16, 2011 12:25 PM (48wze)

52 If I can do it, anybody can.

Posted by: Scott Pelley at November 16, 2011 04:14 PM (QKKT0)

I'm such a loser! *runs off sobbing... and to find a drink...

..and probably drive...

... and probably run someone over*

Posted by: Rick "Dirty" Sanchez at November 16, 2011 12:25 PM (J+4F0)

53 If Chelsea Clinton is as liberal as Megaton McCain is conservative then she might be the rising star of the Tea Party.

Posted by: Bob Saget at November 16, 2011 12:25 PM (SDkq3)

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 16, 2011 12:26 PM (3bLrJ)

55 But yes, knowledge and a hard work ethic will get you ahead and to a mid-level position. Just not to the "top".

I disagree.

Posted by: Genghis Khan at November 16, 2011 12:26 PM (QKKT0)

56
What the hell is Philosophy in International Relations?

.... advanced steepage in Marxist theory.....

Posted by: fixerupper at November 16, 2011 12:27 PM (C8hzL)

57 Dave, the indications are that he got pretty unhappy when the Clintons asked him to cut off his ties with his father (a former Iowa politician who went to federal prison). Talk about politically-motivated...

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 12:27 PM (WRtsc)

58 Someone gave Chelsea a facial in her early twenties?

Posted by: andycanuck at November 16, 2011 12:27 PM (/VGq8)

59 You're one of them "glass half full" guys, aren't you?

Compared to, say, soothsayer or vic?  I'm downright sunshine and rose-tinted goggles.  Compared to most "average" people, I'm a cynic of the highest (lowest?) order.

This just doesn't really bug me, though.  I guess I'd get more mad if someone famous had landed a sweet developer gig because of nepotism- but, again, getting the gig and keeping it are two different things.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 12:27 PM (8y9MW)

60
Do they have nachos in Cuba?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at November 16, 2011 12:27 PM (QMtmy)

61 How do you say delicious in Cuban?

Same way you say it in Austrian.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at November 16, 2011 12:27 PM (bjRNS)

62 And then there's Jenna over at Fox news. Who would you vote for, if they were running against each other?

Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at November 16, 2011 12:27 PM (ybkwK)

63 This is an effective use of the liberal infrastructure- four degrees from a whoÂ’s who list of Ivy League schools, a Wall Street gig, a gig at a liberal think tank, and now charm school at NBC.

--Kind of a nitpick, but only one school on her résumé is Ivy League.

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 12:27 PM (QaKuj)

64 Ace is returning some video tapes.

Betamax to be precise.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at November 16, 2011 12:27 PM (tf9Ne)

65

I gave up on the idea that hard work would justly be rewarded over say, being a whore who sucks on an ocean of dicks on her way to the top.

One of the best lines in a movie ever:

What kind of executive would I be if I fucked my way to the bottom?



Posted by: boned to the bone at November 16, 2011 12:28 PM (BHM5V)

66 Do they have nachos in Cuba?

You need connections to get the nachos.

Posted by: Raul Castro at November 16, 2011 12:28 PM (QKKT0)

67 Compared to, say, soothsayer or vic?

Mwa? Surely you jest. But yes, you tend to get a little cynical when you have your nose rubbed in shit for 60 years or more.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 12:28 PM (YdQQY)

68 Logprof, I'd always heard Stanford referred to as Ivy League, and the same for NYU. Oxford might as well be, no?

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 12:29 PM (WRtsc)

69 Sounds like a professional student was finally told to go get a job.

Posted by: Lojack at November 16, 2011 12:29 PM (oASlp)

70 Do they have nachos in Cuba?

No, they were invented by some capitalist running dog in South Padre Island.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at November 16, 2011 12:29 PM (bjRNS)

71 Lojack, I'll promise you that the hedge fund management thing plus the other stuff has her set for life.

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 12:30 PM (WRtsc)

72 What the hell is Philosophy in International Relations?


They sit in a comfortable chair with a snifter of brandy ( a la Monty) and think about other countries.

Posted by: mpfs, Perry Gal at November 16, 2011 12:31 PM (iYbLN)

73 65 And then there's Jenna over at Fox news. Who would you vote for, if they were running against each other? Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at November 16, 2011 04:27 PM (ybkwK) Jenna got that gig because of connections but at least she has the good taste to be smokin' hot. So, no contest.

Posted by: joncelli, reluctant Perry supporter at November 16, 2011 12:31 PM (RD7QR)

74 Depends on what you mean by “her father’s charisma”, but I’ve seen some accounts that indicate she does have charisma.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at November 16, 2011 12:32 PM (QF8uk)

75 I do agree that this was probably NBC doing the Clintons a solid, but if she doesn't do well, I don't expect they'll just keep her on forever.

And why not? They've kept Brian friggin' Williams, and have even given him his own show to continue his Osama-Obama-sucking and lefty ways.

Posted by: MrScribbler at November 16, 2011 12:32 PM (HkOAc)

76 Great. Now I'm in the mood for nachos

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 16, 2011 12:32 PM (3bLrJ)

77 Rush Limbaugh was really going off on Chelsea Clinton yesterday.  I'm happy about it.  Years ago, someone with connections in the White House said Chelsea was a little me-first princess-snot.  She considered herself a cut-above everyone else in the administration.  

And now that she's growing a little board, the princess needs a new distraction.  How about starting at the top with NBC in New York?  Daddy, can you give NBC a call?   Like you have everyone else?

The thing that bothers me most about this story is all the other people trying to make a name in media, paying their dues, hoping against hope they can land any job at NBC.  And Chelsea gets to start at the top. 

This makes Meggie Mac look like a skilled, seasoned veteran.

Well.  I guess an entitled princess needs something for the ennui.  Now that summer's over.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 16, 2011 12:33 PM (DGb0F)

78 If I was locked in a room with Chelsea Clinton, Zooey Deschanel and a revolver with one bullet, and told that I would have to have sex with one and kill the other, I'd shoot Chelsea then bludgeon myself unconscious with the butt of the revolver.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 16, 2011 12:33 PM (0yt4x)

79 I had a PhD in international relations. I earned it in multiple trips to Olongapo City. 

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 12:33 PM (YdQQY)

80 Great. Now I'm in the mood for nachos

I'm in the mood for a Cuban.

The food, you pervs..

Posted by: Dr. Varno at November 16, 2011 12:33 PM (QMtmy)

81 >>If you go back and look at her teenage pics to now, the difference is striking... and handmade.
Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 04:23 PM (WRtsc)

Didn't she pretty much do a face plant off of her wedding cake too?

What happened with that anyway? It was kind of a political insider marriage too IIRC.

Posted by: ontherocks at November 16, 2011 12:33 PM (HBqDo)

82
I think Roger Clinton needs his own TV show.


Posted by: Dr. Varno at November 16, 2011 12:34 PM (QMtmy)

83 Chelsea Hotel Clinton

You just can't buy class.

Posted by: kathysaysso at November 16, 2011 12:35 PM (ZtwUX)

84 So Vic...... Take any special medication for the continious cold sore on your lip and genitals ?????

Posted by: Wall-E at November 16, 2011 12:35 PM (48wze)

85

Old NBC networks PSAs: "The More You Know"

New NBC networks PSAs: "It's Who You Know"

Posted by: Rich Fader at November 16, 2011 12:35 PM (9vFNw)

86 What the hell is Philosophy in International Relations? Posted by: Rich

Reading The Prince more than once?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 16, 2011 12:35 PM (HZbzj)

87 I would love to see if she had to pay for one class. I bet she was scholar-shipped through each degree. We are in the phase of becoming an aristocracy. The connected get everything and pretend to care about the rest of us.

Posted by: Locus Ceruleus at November 16, 2011 12:35 PM (GMzH2)

88 "Philosophy in International Relations" is fancy language for "Line up here for the free stuff from the good old USA!"

Posted by: navybrat at November 16, 2011 12:35 PM (TXH80)

89 Is there a color tag for green?

Posted by: Jean at November 16, 2011 12:35 PM (WkuV6)

90 College?

Who needs that to get ahead?

Posted by: Snooki at November 16, 2011 12:36 PM (QaKuj)

91 @92

An M.Phil. is Brit-talk for M.A.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at November 16, 2011 12:36 PM (vA8Rg)

92 But yes, you tend to get a little cynical when you have your nose rubbed in shit for 60 years or more.

I was just picking the two who stood out the most in my mind.

Frankly, I prefer cynics to optimists.  They're disappointed less often, and less annoying when they are.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at November 16, 2011 12:37 PM (8y9MW)

93 I was so impressed by the feat of Sir Edmund Hillary that I named our only child Chelsea.  That's in England, where Sir Edmund's grandparents were from.

Posted by: Raul Castro at November 16, 2011 12:37 PM (QKKT0)

94 Hey GI Vic...You got girlfriend Manila? Fifty Pesos Vic.....Me love you long time Vic...........

Posted by: Cecilia Marcos at November 16, 2011 12:37 PM (48wze)

95 This is no different, really, than Mr. Pelosi's magical windfalls.

They is the 1%!

Posted by: nickless, back with the banned (99.174.64.43) at November 16, 2011 12:37 PM (cBVAS)

96 Sock fail

I was so impressed by the feat of Sir Edmund Hillary that I named our only child Chelsea.  That's in England, where Sir Edmund's grandparents were from.

Posted by: Hillary! at November 16, 2011 12:38 PM (QKKT0)

97
When's the last time you had a Triscuit?

It's been years for me. Maybe decades.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 12:38 PM (sqkOB)

98 OT listening to Rubio on Ed's show right now.....jeebus talk about a forceful conservative that just does nothing but make complete futten sense...on everything he speaks on. 

Posted by: kehoe at November 16, 2011 12:39 PM (My+PZ)

99 LOL, never made it to Manila. 50 pesos was cheap, you wouldn't want one of those.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 12:39 PM (YdQQY)

100 71 Logprof, I'd always heard Stanford referred to as Ivy League, and the same for NYU. Oxford might as well be, no?

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 04:29 PM (WRtsc)


--The only Ivies (the Ivy League is not a vague term, but is a real athletic conference as well) are Harvard, Yale, Penn, Dartmouth, Brown, Columbia, Princeton and Cornell.

There are schools that are referred to as "Public Ivies" (e.g., UVA, Cal, UNC, and William and Mary) but that has no formality to it other than all are public.

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 12:39 PM (QaKuj)

101
Sorta like how the Commies do stuff.

Lovely girl.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz Racism Identifier at November 16, 2011 12:40 PM (tcSZb)

102 Again, guys, this isn't a job, this is charm school. She gets tossed out into the field, she gets to know the big national reporters, and they say nice things about her when she runs for office. That's the strategy behind this. Why mention it, then? Because this is a future political adversary. I read the Stacy McCain post about her, and I believe him, but the stories of her high-handedness with the media (and, by the way, she did not give any interviews about the new gig) and certain traits about her that ring of her mother are pretty well-documented.

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 12:40 PM (WRtsc)

103

" And if you guessed this person just landed a gig completely unrelated to any of the education listed above, congratulations, you just hit the trifecta."

Actually, I think her academic record makes her fairly well qualified to serve as a newsperson, particlary with the degree in History.  As I understand it, Newt Gingrich is primarily a historian by education, and I consider him to be a pretty smart fellow (which doesn't mean he doesn't have unfortunate baggage elsewhere, but that's a different story).

We have plenty of talking heads on TV who have apparently earned a degree in 'Talking Head' somewhere, but don't know a damn thing otherwise.  I'll reserve judgment on Chelsea, who obviously got her job based on her family rather than her qualifications, until I see how she performs. 

If she's up to the job, good for her.  If she turns out to be another Meghan McCain, I hope she gets fired.

Posted by: Owain at November 16, 2011 12:40 PM (48wze)

104 Wait a minute, tmi3rd. The implications just set in. She had work done on her face? So what we're looking at is the maximum beauty that could be extracted from Chelsea Clinton's flesh and the culmination of decades of advances in cosmetic surgery? DAMN, dude. Just... DAMN.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 16, 2011 12:40 PM (XE2Oo)

105 84I had a PhD in international relations. I earned it in multiple trips to Olongapo City.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 04:33 PM (YdQQY)

Ahhh.... The good old days on Magsaysay Boulevard

Posted by: Johnnyreb at November 16, 2011 12:40 PM (NNrYJ)

106 Logprof, I stand corrected, then.

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 12:41 PM (WRtsc)

107 When's the last time you had a Triscuit?

I can't buy them. I'd eat the entire box in one sitting. Such sweet salty goodness right there

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 16, 2011 12:41 PM (3bLrJ)

108 Reminds me of Maria Shriver's rapid ascent to the National News. Funny thing was she was so slow that her film crew had to write her news bites and rehearse a couple of dozen times before rolling the cameras. Even with that prep it still took numerous takes to get the 30 second shot. Its good to be born rich and privledged. Even with that pedigree she looks like skeletor. Just sayin.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at November 16, 2011 12:41 PM (0M3AQ)

109 The new chin and nose helps her looks if she is going to be a TV newsbabe. I always thought she looked like a combination of both Bill and Hill. The bad parts. You can't help who your parents are.

Posted by: magnolia at November 16, 2011 12:41 PM (qi2/V)

110 There are schools that are referred to as "Public Ivies"...

There are also, I am told, "Potted Ivies" -- they include Wellesley (where Hillary went).

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at November 16, 2011 12:41 PM (bjRNS)

111 "rèsumè" Dude, if you're going to use those accent thingies, you should figure out which direction they point. Otherwise, you look like an idiot.

Posted by: Vlàd thè Ìmpàlèr at November 16, 2011 12:41 PM (c22rM)

112 Scott Brown's daughter does fluff pieces for the morning show on CBS..

But I think that is also her background too..  Media relations..

Plus she's smoking hot so that helps getting her on TV.


Posted by: Dave C at November 16, 2011 12:41 PM (KnGgu)

113 Let's not forget about all the pictures of Chelsea's drunken escapades being dutifully scrubbed from the Internet.  (I have never even seen them, except a foggy recollection of seeing one pic on the cover of a tabloid at the time.)

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 12:42 PM (QaKuj)

114 111 84I had a PhD in international relations. I earned it in multiple trips to Olongapo City.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 04:33 PM (YdQQY)

Ahhh.... The good old days on Magsaysay Boulevard

 

Good times. "I know you, you somebody!"

Posted by: Sub-Tard at November 16, 2011 12:42 PM (0M3AQ)

115 Master of Public Health, Columbia University Well, if you guessed this person wanted to be a politician, youÂ’d be right. If you guessed this person comes from major-league money, youÂ’d also be right. And if you guessed this person just landed a gig completely unrelated to any of the education listed above, I don't know. Considering how much of the govt. health takes up in the countries the left elite want us to emulate, a degree in health stuff seems reasonable for an aspiring politician.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at November 16, 2011 12:42 PM (mGnwL)

116 What? No masters in puppetry? How the hell can this person think she's employable without a masters in puppetry?

Posted by: nerdygirl at November 16, 2011 12:43 PM (ydsB6)

117 Ayla Brown

Had to google it.

Posted by: Dave C at November 16, 2011 12:43 PM (KnGgu)

118 I think the Clinton strategic planning is lacking here. Chelsea's duty is to produce the ruling class of the later half of this century. I mean, who do we worshIp in 2065?

Posted by: Paulkitt at November 16, 2011 12:44 PM (nda2C)

119 Chelsea reminds me of a young Eleanor Roosevelt who was breathtakingly
Breathtaking.
Like gagging, suffocatingly breathtaking. 

Posted by: ontherocks at November 16, 2011 12:44 PM (HBqDo)

120 124 I think the Clinton strategic planning is lacking here. Chelsea's duty is to produce the ruling class of the later half of this century. I mean, who do we worshIp in 2065?   What, lie back and think of Arkansas?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at November 16, 2011 12:44 PM (0M3AQ)

121 Arthur, exactly my point. Everything she's done is in preparation for politics, and teaching her to handle the news is part of that. It's about as subtle as a thrown knife, and even the reporters who will be fluffing her are crying bullshit over it. I just figure we'd better keep an eye on her, as we'll be trying to figure out how to keep her from making a return trip to the White House in the foreseeable future.

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 12:45 PM (WRtsc)

122 122 What? No masters in puppetry? How the hell can this person think she's employable without a masters in puppetry? Posted by: nerdygirl

If she can't fashion a paper maché head of Bush that looks like Hitler what good is she?

Posted by: mpfs, Perry Gal at November 16, 2011 12:45 PM (iYbLN)

123 This is such a good argument against credentialism.

Being a great journalist has nothing to do with whether you went to J-School, just like great teachers rarely have Ed.D. degrees from Ed Schools. Both typically have depth in a real subject that grapples with great ideas, like History, Philosophy, Math, or the hard sciences, but their excellence comes from the value they bring to their craft.

I like Mark Hovind's formulation for the ideal value proposition to present to a prospective employer:

"I turn lead into gold at $50,000 per day. If you must know, I can't read or write, I dropped out of 5th grade, and I learned how to do it last week. Plus, I am old, fat, ugly and take a nap every day from noon to three. However, I do turn lead into gold at $50,000 per day - would you like some?"

Not a single credential in that. Except maybe fourth grade.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at November 16, 2011 12:45 PM (vA8Rg)

124  "Brian Stelter at the New York Times notes some serious discomfort in the industry about someone devoid of experience jumping right into the national stuff."

Yeah.  Now he's nervous.  Has he heard of this Obama fellow?

Posted by: Dang at November 16, 2011 12:46 PM (BbX1b)

125 I notice no education in economics.   An economics degree should be absolutely required for politics.


Posted by: crosspatch at November 16, 2011 12:46 PM (ZbLJZ)

126

@3: "I wouldn't hire her for a real job,but then news is not a real job."

Please don't take this as an insult, peasant, but I would *never* being applying for any job where anyone who was not a member of the modern nobility would even be allowed to touch the very vellum ponst which My resume was inscribed.  What you would or would not do simply does not enter into the equation.

By the way, shouldn't you be out laboring? My nation needs tax revenues, you know.

Posted by: HRH Chelsea Clinton at November 16, 2011 12:47 PM (jAqTK)

127 The one point I sympathized with LBJ on was his desire to create a parallel infrastructure to the Ivies.  Unfortunately, his efforts only reinforced their power.

Posted by: Schaeffer at November 16, 2011 12:48 PM (ZN0re)

128 112 Logprof, I stand corrected, then.

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 04:41 PM (WRtsc)

--I get the point, though, since Stanford and NYU exceed the Ivies in certain fields (e.g., both have better business schools than most Ivies).

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 12:48 PM (QaKuj)

129 I went to Cornell.

Ever heard of it?

Posted by: Andrew Bernard at November 16, 2011 12:48 PM (QaKuj)

130 I'm damn jealous

Posted by: Meggie Mac at November 16, 2011 12:48 PM (vA8Rg)

131

When she was going to Sidwell Friends, I was working as a server at a local establishment.  She and a "friend" (boyfriend? idk) came in late night, sat at a 2 top and ordered fries, two cokes, and chicken strips.  They didn't talk much, but her SS detail was pretty cool.  He sat at the bar, a few feet away but close enough to keep an eye, and ordered ribs. 

The guy who owned the restaurant used to be college floormates/suitesmates with Bubba when they were at Georgetown, and he was bemused by the fact that I was a conservative so much so that when Bubba and his entourage came to the restaurant one night I got to wait on him.  It was weird... and yes, he hit on me.  And no, I didn't.  But he did leave a fat tip. 

Posted by: Hidajunshin at November 16, 2011 12:49 PM (MVVJU)

132 Re: credentialism- I did just fine in journalism with no degree in it, either. What I did do, however, was work my way up through the ranks and learn to do it. Clinton has the connections to jump up to the top of the ladder, and that's fine. But let nobody kid you- if she writes more than a paragraph or two in any of these pieces, I'd be shocked. She'll be the voice of this stuff, and that's going to be the extent of it.

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 12:50 PM (WRtsc)

133 If my dog had a face like Chelsea Clinton, I would shave its ass and teach it to walk backwards......................

Posted by: Wall-E at November 16, 2011 12:50 PM (48wze)

134

Methinks Chelsea will live a very privledged empty life. She will never know what are her earned versus gifted successes. Just sayin. She may never know any earned success.  

Posted by: Sub-Tard at November 16, 2011 12:50 PM (0M3AQ)

135 This is stupid.   Her new job has nothing to do with her resume or her elite schooling.   She's Chelsea Freakin' Clinton!   Her dad was President.   Her mom is Secretary of State and was a Senator from New York and was a Presidential candidate and might still be a Presidential candidate.   No other thirty-something candidate for a job at NBC has those assets.   She immediately can bring to the table access to powerful people that no other candidate can bring.   She can get her phone calls answered immediately by literally anyone in the world.   Get over this.   It's just life.   I'm pretty sure the Bush girls get better jobs than their resumes would qualify them for too.   So what?   Is this news?   Life ain't fair, pal.

Posted by: The Regular Guy at November 16, 2011 12:50 PM (qHCyt)

136
Knüte 2012

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 16, 2011 12:51 PM (sqkOB)

137 More on the aristocracy to come...

That reminds me - Vote Romney

Posted by: Rmoney Voter at November 16, 2011 12:51 PM (7MFxV)

138 ^^^^THIS

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 12:51 PM (WRtsc)

139 I just figure we'd better keep an eye on her, as we'll be trying to figure out how to keep her from making a return trip to the White House in the foreseeable future.

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 04:45 PM (WRtsc)

Damn, dude. You must be privileged to some serious inside info to be that concerned about Ol' Horsetoof, I mean Chelsea.

Posted by: ErikW at November 16, 2011 12:51 PM (rDNKr)

140 117 "rèsumè"

Dude, if you're going to use those accent thingies, you should figure out which direction they point. Otherwise, you look like an idiot.

Posted by: Vlàd thè Ìmpàlèr at November 16, 2011 04:41 PM (c22rM)

--No, they do go the other way.  I don't even thing the spell-checker thingy here had the red squiggly line under it.

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 12:52 PM (QaKuj)

141 But he did leave a fat tip.  And where did he leave it, honey? BOOYAH.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at November 16, 2011 12:52 PM (XE2Oo)

142 118 Scott Brown's daughter does fluff pieces for the morning show on CBS..

But I think that is also her background too..  Media relations..

Plus she's smoking hot so that helps getting her on TV.


Posted by: Dave C at November 16, 2011 04:41 PM (KnGgu)


--The daughter who was on some dance competition show on TV?

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 12:52 PM (QaKuj)

143

@8: "What the hell is Philosophy in International Relations?"

I fully addressed this query in Part I of my epic meisterwerk History of the World.

A description of the philosophy -

Clerk: Occupation?
Comicus: Stand-up philosopher.
Clerk: What?
Comicus: Stand-up philosopher. I coalesce the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful comprehension.
Clerk: Oh, a *bullshit* artist!

And an exemplar of the philosophy at work -

Leader of Senate: All fellow members of the Roman senate hear me. Shall we continue to build palace after palace for the rich? Or shall we aspire to a more noble purpose and build decent housing for the poor? How does the senate vote?
Entire Senate: FUCK THE POOR!

Posted by: Mel Brooks at November 16, 2011 12:54 PM (jAqTK)

144 Does this mean Chaz Bono will be hired by CBS? Just askin.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at November 16, 2011 12:55 PM (0M3AQ)

145 Dang, with all those degrees she could be a thermometer.

(rimshot)

Posted by: Arms Merchant at November 16, 2011 12:55 PM (vA8Rg)

146 Its the same way that Hillary got the Senate and SOS gigs, close proximity to power.
Though the State Dept job was also a payoff for getting her big bucket out of the way for another Leftist imposter to assume a role for which he had Zero credentials. 

Posted by: ontherocks at November 16, 2011 12:57 PM (HBqDo)

147 Today my bosses threatened to fire me for being late too much.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 16, 2011 12:58 PM (rpryp)

148

@60: "Someone gave Chelsea a facial in her early twenties?"

I'm not proud of that one, but hey, I am who I am.

Posted by: William Jefferson Clittin' at November 16, 2011 01:00 PM (jAqTK)

149

Stuff like this unreasonably pisses me off.  Submarine duty in the navy, MS in engineering, years of 50+ hour work weeks, and 15 countries in ten years, all for the joy of (maybe) retiring at 75.

Some no-nothing, accomplish-nothing politician's kid skates through college with degrees in fluff and is set for life.

Posted by: Grim at November 16, 2011 01:01 PM (gyNYk)

150 119 Let's not forget about all the pictures of Chelsea's drunken escapades being dutifully scrubbed from the Internet.  (I have never even seen them, except a foggy recollection of seeing one pic on the cover of a tabloid at the time.)

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 04:42 PM (QaKuj)


See #89 above.  You are welcome.

Posted by: kathysaysso at November 16, 2011 01:02 PM (ZtwUX)

151 The daughter who was on some dance competition show on TV?
That's son, asshole!!!

Posted by: chas bono at November 16, 2011 01:03 PM (/VGq8)

152 LetÂ’s not throw too many stones there- science degrees, particularly chemistry and physics, run off a lot of good students.

Yep, Chelsea O-Chem is a bitch.  Take this one with the labs in a ten week summer session right before your MCAT.  And get an A.   http://tiny.cc/ss4ki 

Posted by: Proud Dad Of Two MD's That Were Not Run Off Into Liberal Politics at November 16, 2011 01:06 PM (BkQvr)

153

I haven't read any of the comments, but with that much education, that person screams to me that they don't ever want to work.  They just want to be a professional student and avoid ever having a real job. 

Now that I know it's Chelsea, I'm not surprised.  She isn't ever suppose to really get her hands dirty.  She is just suppose to win her first election in a walk.

Funny too, she is the 1%!

Posted by: Michael More More More at November 16, 2011 01:08 PM (u/RSM)

154 155 Today my bosses threatened to fire me for being late too much.

Posted by: Serious Cat at November 16, 2011 04:58 PM (rpryp)


I hated getting bitched at for being a few minutes late for work.  OK twenty or so.  But if I'm going to work twelve hours, does it really matter whether I start right at a certain time.  For me it was 9am.  I'm not a morning person.


Obama already proved that you can advance to the very top without any actual achievements.  Chelsea is just following his example.

Posted by: NC Ref at November 16, 2011 01:08 PM (/izg2)

155

Aack!  Sock!

 

Posted by: runningrn at November 16, 2011 01:08 PM (u/RSM)

156

@141: "Methinks Chelsea will live a very privledged empty life. She will never know what are her earned versus gifted successes. Just sayin. She may never know any earned success."

And when I'm drifting off to sleep each night atop a pile of money in my manor house, tired from a long day of ruling you pathetic insects, I promise you, I'll be really broken up about for at least one (1) picosecond.

Posted by: HRH Chelsea Clinton at November 16, 2011 01:10 PM (jAqTK)

157 Let's face it.  The Clintons have an empire.  Much bigger than the SCOAMF could ever dream.  They think long-term and legacy.  Yes, Chelsea will be a presidential candidate someday, whether she succeeds in the national news or not.

Posted by: Soona at November 16, 2011 01:14 PM (X/0mk)

158 Chelsea will never run for President. The country will no longer exist when she gets to the point where she thinks she is ready. It is already on the verge of collapse now.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 01:15 PM (YdQQY)

159 And Chelsea gets to start at the top. 

This makes Meggie Mac look like a skilled, seasoned veteran.

Well.  I guess an entitled princess needs something for the ennui.  Now that summer's over.

Posted by: rdbrewer at November 16, 2011 04:33 PM (DGb0F)



Coming soon to a network near you:


The 2016 Presidential Debates hosted by Chelsea Clinton and Megan McCain.

Posted by: NC Ref at November 16, 2011 01:18 PM (/izg2)

160  Chelsea will never run for President. The country will no longer exist when she gets to the point where she thinks she is ready. It is already on the verge of collapse now.

Posted by: Vic at November 16, 2011 05:15 PM (YdQQY)

 

Okay, then, she'll be the premier.  She'll rule with soft kindness, with her mother at her side.  ////

Posted by: Soona at November 16, 2011 01:22 PM (X/0mk)

161 I always thought she looked like a combination of both Bill and Hill.

*cough*

Posted by: webb hubbell at November 16, 2011 01:26 PM (GTbGH)

162

--The daughter who was on some dance competition show on TV?

 

Ayla Brown was actually a contestant on American Idol and really can sing.

 

Here's the 411 on Chelsea's MIL:

 

Marjorie Margolies-Mezvinsky also had a short-lived political career, and owes her failure to both her husband, Ed, and her future in-law, then-President Bill Clinton.

Elected to Congress in 1992, she was the deciding vote in the House that ensured the passage of ClintonÂ’s 1993 budget, which included a tax increase for the wealthy. Her willingness to vote for the bill was used against her in the following election cycle, leading to her defeat. She later tried running for Senate, but dropped out of the race when forced restitution payments related to her husbandÂ’s fraud conviction forced the family into bankruptcy.



Posted by: runningrn at November 16, 2011 01:27 PM (u/RSM)

163

She can't be any worse than that over-acting scrunt Christianne Amapoorjournalist.

Bet it galls a few of the underlings that have worked up from doing dog shows and drug store grand openings.

Posted by: Schwalbe : The © at November 16, 2011 01:28 PM (UU0OF)

164 Watching the Chelsea grooming process is interesting - especially in real time - compared to years-old newspaper articles dredged from the bowels of some regional newspaper's microfiche.

But prep school grooming is nothing new, especially for children of very wealthy families.

The premise of the original Godfather film was primarily about power and the application of that power [puppetmasters] and how Micheal would someday become a top tier politician.

Posted by: 13times at November 16, 2011 01:29 PM (h6XiD)

165 I say this with no bitterness- the Clintons are using the assets they have at their disposal...

Do you think that a professor at any one of those schools would have given her marks that were less than outstanding (so long as she was marginally competent)?  In short, it is most definitely someone else's assets and not her abilities.  Who puts a 20 something on their board?  I don't care how smart you may be, your experience is lacking.

Posted by: dogfish at November 16, 2011 01:30 PM (NuPNl)

166 mckinsey is a big consulting company, pretty much the most-respected if not the best in the world, but it didn't hire chelsea clinton for her resume, experience, or even education.

Posted by: matt at November 16, 2011 01:32 PM (X69df)

167

I get the part about Ivy League being the ticket to the party, but without the front-end connections, you are still a wallflower at the end.  The prestige of the degree puts you ahead of the A&M (Cornell A&M notwithstanding), but connections still matter the most.

Does being able to casually afford multiple Ivy League degrees put you in the 1%?

Posted by: Advo at November 16, 2011 01:37 PM (8Zjaw)

168 Dogfish, that almost goes without saying. Nobody's going to bring that heat upon themselves. Without seeing her lab work in chemistry and in o-chem, I have no idea what kind of student she was or is, but you'll notice she left science behind. As far as it all goes- I don't begrudge the Clintons trying to set up their kid. I know that I as a parent want my kids to have a better life than I've had (and mine hasn't been bad by any stretch). They're holding a lot of cards and they're using them. However, buying one's way into the presidency hasn't been done yet, to the best of my knowledge. I'd prefer that we not see another Clinton, or any other family of the aristocracy, in the White House.

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 01:38 PM (WRtsc)

169 Any resume that I see that includes currently working on a graduate degree - particularly in a field outside the job description - gets tossed in the circular file. 

Posted by: Y-not at November 16, 2011 01:38 PM (5H6zj)

170 Advo, I'd think you have to be pretty bad with people to not make some significant connections while there. Money does give you a certain amount of clout, and the Ivy kids I've known parlayed their connections via school much more than they did their education. I could be wrong.

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 01:40 PM (WRtsc)

171 B.A. in history with honors, Stanford University

Master of Philosophy in International Relations, Oxford

Master of Public Health, Columbia University

Currently pursuing a doctorate in public administration at NYU

Honestly, you have to stop being impressed by school names and start looking at the degrees. These are "attendance" degrees.

The big-name schools are getting worse and worse.  Between legacies and affirmative action, any degree that is its own certification is where you go if you aren't very bright and they send you through.

Who evaluates the quality of her Stanford history education other than Stanford?  And that is BY FAR the most impressive part of this list.  Columbia is notorious for being the king of the wussy subjects (education, journalism). "Public administration" and "international relations" are pathetic, even at Oxford.  It's the elitist nepotist version of a jock degree.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 16, 2011 01:41 PM (T0NGe)

172 Yep, Chelsea O-Chem is a bitch.  Take this one with the labs in a ten week summer session right before your MCAT.  And get an A.   http://tiny.cc/ss4ki 

Posted by: Proud Dad Of Two MD's That Were Not Run Off Into Liberal Politics at November 16, 2011 05:06 PM (BkQvr)

Damn right.  But some of us didn't wimp out and go to history.

Posted by: Rick Perry at November 16, 2011 01:44 PM (T0NGe)

173 Amish, I agree with you- but it's not us she's trying to impress. I know plenty of dipshits who managed to get degrees from upper-tier schools, and I'm quite aware of what's really involved. Unfortunately, there are a lot of folks out there who will assume that going to an Ivy or equivalent "upper-tier" school means you're smart and motivated. John Q. Public will be impressed by it. From a hiring perspective, I've been challenged by my bosses when I put a couple of Ivy-educated resumes in the discard list.

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 01:45 PM (WRtsc)

174 I suspect that's going to work out for the US just as well as the Kennedy sperm bank did.

Posted by: Gmac at November 16, 2011 01:45 PM (k2Fyd)

175 Put that on pay-per-view.  Is it possible for both parties to lose a debate?

The people who watch that would be the losers

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 16, 2011 01:51 PM (pdRb1)

176 I wonder if she attached a picture of her drunk ass falling out of a London cab to the resume.

Posted by: Schwalbe : The © at November 16, 2011 01:56 PM (UU0OF)

177 106 71 Logprof, I'd always heard Stanford referred to as Ivy League, and the same for NYU. Oxford might as well be, no?

Posted by: tmi3rd at November 16, 2011 04:29 PM (WRtsc)


--The only Ivies (the Ivy League is not a vague term, but is a real athletic conference as well) are Harvard, Yale, Penn, Dartmouth, Brown, Columbia, Princeton and Cornell.

There are schools that are referred to as "Public Ivies" (e.g., UVA, Cal, UNC, and William and Mary) but that has no formality to it other than all are public.

Posted by: logprof at November 16, 2011 04:39 PM (QaKuj)

There are also the "Southern Ivies" that went as far as trying to start up the Magnolia Conference. Those schools being Duke, Tulane, Rice, SMU, Emory, Vanderbilt,  and Miami (Fla).

While Stanford and NYU are not Ivies, they are AAU schools which are the upper echelon of universities in the US and Canada.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 16, 2011 02:02 PM (GomcF)

178
She wound up on the board of the School of American Ballet (sheÂ’s got a ballet background)






With her mom's cankles? I call shenanigans.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 16, 2011 02:06 PM (G+B5p)

179 165 You forgot to mention her joo father in law is a felon, so she's got that going for her too.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at November 16, 2011 05:10 PM (hXJOG)

Well, Chelsea's daddy served 21 months for mail fraud and tax evasion.

I will have to say, having a mother who was a US Senator and a father who was the Chief Justice of the Arkansas Supreme Court opens a lot of doors.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 16, 2011 02:07 PM (GomcF)

180 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at November 16, 2011 02:10 PM (7WJOC)

181
However, buying one's way into the presidency hasn't been done yet, to the best of my knowledge.




*whistles absently*

Posted by: Zombie John F. Kennedy at November 16, 2011 02:11 PM (G+B5p)

182

Please.

A board member of ANY organization should have SOME experience in the real world, especially in the field relating to the board they're serving on...I can't understand how she got these gigs...Did she know someone?

Posted by: Uncle Jefe at November 16, 2011 02:14 PM (+3fAP)

183 (LetÂ’s not throw too many stones there- science degrees, particularly chemistry and physics, run off a lot of good students.)

Damn skippy, baby! We only want the best of the best of the best... sir!

Posted by: No Whining at November 16, 2011 02:15 PM (0AClR)

184 I for one am not happy with this turn of events.  I'd love to be on network and I'm stuck here at cable.

Posted by: luke russert at November 16, 2011 02:16 PM (oZfic)

185 Wasn't she a Rhodes Scholar like her dad.  Everyone says the Clintons called in "their markers' but could it have been the in laws?

Posted by: sky at November 16, 2011 02:18 PM (oZfic)

186 This person just landed a gig on the NBC Nightly News. Her name is Chelsea Clinton.

Good thing I don't watch NBC Nightly News. I'm not exactly hankering to see Hillary Jr's mug.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 16, 2011 02:21 PM (1rHeD)

187 A second-generation Clinton, Kofi Annan's kid making mad bank off Oil For Food loot, Meggie Mac essentially being a fat blonde Kim Kardassian, all of this reinforces the increasingly hereditary nature of wealth and power in the modern world.

Tom Kratman really worked that theme in A Desert Called Peace and Carnifex regarding the political breakdown of what then was "Old Earth", but there's a line in his new one, Countdown: M-Day, that sums it up well:

"The consensus for civilization, among those who ought most to be defending it, is breaking down. It wasn’t perfect, so the elites have lost interest in it. Gangs rule. Borders are either superfluous or are fast becoming so. Citizenship means less and less with each passing day and with each passing day, and each further breakdown in civilization, people look out for what matters, their families. Power is devolving to an unelected and unutterably corrupt elite who wrap themselves in some pretty damned thin shrouds of cosmopolitan holiness but who really watch out for their own gene pools. This used to be true only in the Third World. Increasingly, it’s everywhere.”

So as civilization crumbles, welcome to an age of new tribalism with the consequential rise of feudal lords. Like the House of Clinton.

Posted by: SGT Dan at November 16, 2011 02:45 PM (+PoXK)

188 I knew the Clinton disease would live on through Chelsea years ago.  Bad genes always surface eventually.  G-d help us if she's successful.

Posted by: nraendowment at November 16, 2011 02:56 PM (KQVeV)

189 197 Wasn't she a Rhodes Scholar like her dad.  Everyone says the Clintons called in "their markers' but could it have been the in laws?

Posted by: sky at November 16, 2011 06:18 PM (oZfic)

Web Hubbell wasn't a Rhodes Scholar.

Posted by: MrCaniac at November 16, 2011 03:05 PM (GomcF)

190 It would probably take a Constitutional Amendment, but I'd really like to see a law that once a person is elected a President, Vice-President, Governor, Senator, Congressman, or Rep, their immediate family members are barred from seeking any of those offices.  I'd suggest it include father, mother, son, daughter, wife, husband at least.  Let's face it: we're supposed to believe that out of the millions living there, the best person to be the governor of Alaska just happened to be the daughter of a previous governor?  I'd be willing to take the chance we'd lose out on some possibly excellent politicians in order to do something about these obscene political dynasties (the Kennedys alone show how badly such a law is needed).

Posted by: Nemo from Erewhon at November 16, 2011 03:18 PM (SiLUT)

191 If Chelsea Clinton had facial work done she really needs to sue her plastic surgeon. 

Posted by: imtoast at November 16, 2011 03:45 PM (ujhPx)

192 So, Webb Hubbell's daughter finally got a job?

Posted by: Doom am I, full-ripe, dealing death to the worlds, engaged in devouring mankind. at November 16, 2011 03:45 PM (0ywtY)

193 My son got his first ornamental degree on me and now is taking out mega loans to get a second, even more gilded, ornamental degree.

Posted by: GandalfGoneBad at November 16, 2011 04:16 PM (1Ap7+)

194 I read all these "how to get a job" and "best way to write a resume" and job searching horror stories with amusement.

I'll tell ya: I make an $84k base salary, my wife is in nursing college (so doesn't work) and I have 2 young children, and my company pays for all 4 of our medical- I don't even have to contribute. I left high-school in the 11th grade and self-taught myself server-side IT management starting in the early 90's.

I worked construction in those days and ran a recording studio, back and forth, but learned more programming, web design and now development and during the early '00s freelanced, competing against kids to do websites for local businesses, doing as much spec work as actual 'getting paid' work, and had to cut my prices to nothing just to get work.

But in the last 3-4 years, something broke, websites became more dependent on server-side features that amateur coders couldn't fathom, I guess. Since then, I make unimaginable (for me) salary and don't work very hard at all.

These days, I telecommute (worth at least a couple hundred a week, gas, wear and tear on auto, business clothes, travel time, I never have had an office job in my life) and haven't seen my boss since he hired me last spring. I sometimes work a 12 hour day, but some days I don't work at all. I'd guess I do 30-50 hours a week, it varies.

It's been nice because for the first 3 years of my daughter's life I've been able to stay home with her every day and not have to send her out to strangers in Day Care, plus I spend a lot of time with my son as well. I don't know how we'd do it if I had to go into an office, because full-time college takes all my wife's time.

My present boss hired me away from my previous job doing the same work from home by offering me 12k a year over what I previously made. Talking to friends and peers, I expect I'd be able to land a job making over $100k if I were willing to actually look around or go in to an office. I'm holding out for a telecommuting job paying over $100k, and I think I'll end up getting one, and without looking, just by waiting. I get 2-3 serious offers a week, but nothing high enough to shift me, as I like my boss and company right now, so I need at least $10-15k more to make a move.

I didn't look for the job I have now, my present boss found me from my old company's Staff page (which I had always thought was a dumb idea, listing the staff, anyway, turns out it was good for me but bad for them).

I watch people commuting sometimes, or doing some suck-ass job like retail, or working out in the hot sun, or read about people lining up 500 deep to apply for a job or about unemployment benefits running out and I just shake my head.

I did have to change jobs last year due to a company I was working for going under (it was an internet startup, high mortality rate on those, but new ones born daily) but I was immediately inundated with offers.

Out of inertia I just stayed in the city I was in and took a telecommuting job, but companies offered to relocate me and my family, retrain me if necessary, supply housing and a car, etc.

The so-called economic downturn and financial crisis has not affected me a whit. In fact, every year and every job change, I've made more money (and added to my portfolio and experience and skills).

Have I just planned my life well, am I just a lucky son-of-a-bitch, or are all these other people just fuck-ups?

I just share this to give all you sad-sacks out there looking for a job hope. Or really piss you off.

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Posted by: Lightbringer ePub at November 16, 2011 04:44 PM (Y2u5k)

196 Ah, whatever. If NBC thinks they can make a buck by showing off BJ's spawn then more power to them. They need to do something to get people to tune in to their worthless "news" programming. I think the novelty will wear off pretty quickly though. BTW, I count just one Ivy League degree.

Posted by: RickS at November 16, 2011 05:10 PM (MR3QJ)

197 What do Massachusetts and the Clintons have in common? Scroll down.... They both have an ugly Chelsea!

Posted by: bikeguy at November 16, 2011 05:24 PM (S1pi0)

198

@14:  "Oh, and lets not forget this little tart REFUSES to talk to the media, always has and STILL DOES."

That earns her some points for knowing how it's done.  No MSM median talks to the media, and nobody in the media asks a fellow MSM median about anything.  It's obvious that she belongs in the game.  Those who can't follow The Rules wind up on "The View".  Although she needs to be aware that the hazing will likely include the unexpected shoving of Monica Lewinsky into her wheelhouse.

Looking to the future, I can't wait to see the career arcs that Big Momma and Barry Hellafonte extort for Sasha and Malia.

Posted by: 66chevelle at November 16, 2011 05:38 PM (QjSgY)

199

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Posted by: Throw Them All Out ePub at November 16, 2011 06:14 PM (lKE+U)

201 i don't begrudge her good fortune.  The attitude that she, or her ilk, deserve it more than any other lottery winner grates.

I can't prove it, but I suspect that this cost Kerry the presidency.  A lot of people didn't much care for W, but couldn't stand the Masshole phony.




Posted by: MarkD at November 16, 2011 07:07 PM (iYBP2)

202 No More Clintons or in Bushes in Public Office Act Fixed.

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Posted by: Pilgrimage ePub at November 16, 2011 11:13 PM (SITKB)

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