June 18, 2011
— Dave in Texas Rick Perry's speech in New Orleans.
Some bites.
"This administration in Washington clearly believes that government is not only the answer to every need but it's the most qualified to make essential decision in every area.. " It's arrogant. Check.
"EPA, killing jobs in Louisiana. They think they know best. I disagree." Check.
Gray hair that I recall seeing a month or so ago. Gone. Check.
"Bail out money for businesses 'too big to fail'. Bad" Check.
Points to the future, and ponders our present actions. Check.
"Revive the American dream". Check.
And now the Texas story. Job creation. 47.8% of all jobs created in the nation in the last 2 years. Total check. Balanced budget. Check check.
1. Don't spend all the money.
2. Keep the taxes low.
3. Have regulations that are fair and predictable.
4. Tort reform. (well, ok, we did recently pass some, which includes "hey, you bring a stupid lawsuit and lose, you pay for all this crap). I'm ok with this. LOSER PAYS.
He's touting the Texas economic story. When 1500 Americans a day are coming to Texas, that's a pretty good story to run on.
"Our loudest opponents on the left are never going to like us, so let's stop trying to curry favor with them". <-- oh yes. That will resonate.
Talks about state house results, and how conservatives want to return power to the people. And how DC pols won't do that until it's demanded.
These aren't specific points at all. One of my friends here wanted to hear more of that, and I appreciate that he did, cause he's waaay ahead of the curve when it comes to what the voters want to hear.
But this is the kind of speech the voters want to hear. Even if he flubbed "of the people by the people for the people." (the order)
He's running. He's going on the economy.
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Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 18, 2011 06:23 PM (qaU+h)
Perry's Rain Prayers must have worked because it is raining out here in West Texas right now.
Even Michelle Bachmann could only get some fluffy clouds.
Witness the Awesome Power of Aggie-ness!
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 06:25 PM (UZOuI)
Good evening ladies and gentlemen
265,000 jobs have been created in Texas in the last two years.
Thank you and good night.
Posted by: Rick Perry's Stump Speech at June 18, 2011 06:26 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Surprised leftard at June 18, 2011 06:26 PM (Fw2Gg)
Dave, would I be correct in assuming if he gets in, he would be your guy, considering the field?
I'm beginning to lean that way. I think he satisfies the most people within the Republican tent, and is probably good enough for Tea Party purposes. We ain't getting Ryan/Christie etc.
A compromise between Mittens and Bachmann iow.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 18, 2011 06:26 PM (l6k/F)
I want somebody who can win and send BO back to the bush leagues.
Posted by: Mike in FL at June 18, 2011 06:28 PM (motsG)
Unfortunately, he reminds me of the last governor of Texas.
Posted by: Valiant at June 18, 2011 06:28 PM (9/lhd)
Posted by: steevy at June 18, 2011 06:28 PM (HwAS5)
It's time for an Aggie in the White House. And no tea-sips will be appointed to anything whatsoever. In fact, I'm hoping for EO to move U.T. to Bakersfield, California, where it belongs.
Posted by: SlaveDog at June 18, 2011 06:29 PM (PidTa)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 18, 2011 06:29 PM (qaU+h)
Delta, I'm leaning that way.
He's been a reasonably reliable conservative here. Some knocks, none rise up to "oh no fucking way, no how nuh uh". He has less blemishes than GWB.
I do wonder how the rest of the country will react to another Texan. Put that in my "is he electable?" list of concerns.
But yeah, I'd vote for him.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 18, 2011 06:30 PM (Wh0W+)
I'll revise and extend.. primary fight.
In a general, Perry against Obama, he would stomp Obama silly.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 18, 2011 06:32 PM (Wh0W+)
Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at June 18, 2011 06:32 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 18, 2011 06:33 PM (VidfH)
Posted by: moki at June 18, 2011 06:33 PM (dZmFh)
Perry's ability to garner female votes (my assumption) breaks any ties (should their be one) between TPaw, Mittens and the like.
I still need to know/learn a bit more.
I've never seen him debate for one thing. How quick is he on his feet? I already assume him to be the consummate politician, which can be both good and bad.
I do like the fact that he seems to be a fighter/ willing to go to war for his own benefit.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 18, 2011 06:33 PM (l6k/F)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 06:34 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Frank G at June 18, 2011 06:34 PM (1rPxL)
It's time for an Aggie in the White House. And no tea-sips will be appointed to anything whatsoever.
THAT'S the kind of litmus test I could get behind!
Posted by: Less at June 18, 2011 06:34 PM (PGXeZ)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 18, 2011 06:34 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: moki at June 18, 2011 06:35 PM (dZmFh)
I'm very impressed, and he's right, its so much easier to build and expand a business in TX than pretty much any other state.
The fraud will no doubt, say "another Texan"?!?
well Obama is from IL, well many of those IL companies are moving to Texas, so would people vote for the person whose state is losing jobs or a state getting those jobs? My vote goes to the latter.
I've never heard the man give a speech, very direct and simple, I like that. Plus no teleprompter, my vote's going to him. Forget Romney, Perry's got my vote for the primaries.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EXdem at June 18, 2011 06:35 PM (ACkhT)
I don't know if the 2 are related but I'm thinking maybe.
Posted by: Stark at June 18, 2011 06:36 PM (6Lx5N)
Doesn't he have some skeletons in his closet with respect to a TX death penalty case? I seem to recall some scandal with him trying to cover up a case where someone was executed, with some later doubt about guilt.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 06:36 PM (KNy97)
He's at the top of my fav list right now. He's not wart free, but who is? ABO
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 18, 2011 06:36 PM (bvXGR)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at June 18, 2011 06:36 PM (VidfH)
He's been a reasonably reliable conservative here. Some knocks, none rise up to "oh no fucking way, no how nuh uh". He has less blemishes than GWB.
I haven't been made aware of anything in his recent record to scare me off, however, he was Gore's campaign manager in TX in 1988.....anything embarrassing about his Democrat past?
(yes I know TX dems are a bit of a different breed than other states/national party)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 18, 2011 06:37 PM (kXVgG)
Perry is a very skilled pol, and by skilled, I mean JFK-like ability to skin his opponents before they even know they're bleedin.
He is not GWB. He'll shoot you in the face as soon as look at you.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 18, 2011 06:37 PM (Wh0W+)
Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at June 18, 2011 06:37 PM (RZ8pf)
Posted by: Jack Bauer's Dad at June 18, 2011 06:37 PM (YulS3)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 06:38 PM (iGZkF)
/Cap'n Ed
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 18, 2011 06:38 PM (qaU+h)
JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, that's what people are concerned about. Of course, the MBM says Sheriff Joe is working on that same 3 letter word
I see the "if you knew Rick Perry you'd never vote for him" insinuations coming out of the woodwork, so he's scaring lots of people who need to be scared.
Posted by: kbdabear at June 18, 2011 06:38 PM (so1xa)
Posted by: moki at June 18, 2011 06:39 PM (dZmFh)
I agree with many who've asked, are there skeltons?he's been elected TX for 3 terms, right?
Is he electable? anything in the past to come to derail him?
Posted by: johnc_recent_EXdem at June 18, 2011 06:39 PM (ACkhT)
Posted by: Gary Johnson at June 18, 2011 06:39 PM (YnaBl)
Posted by: The Guy Who Hates it When People Post Dream Tickets at June 18, 2011 06:40 PM (YulS3)
Posted by: moki at June 18, 2011 06:41 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 06:41 PM (iGZkF)
He killed one of his aides for bringing him a light beer.
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 18, 2011 06:41 PM (1fB+3)
Having watched his evolution over the years - he started out plastic, fake-y, really politician-like. Like Mitt. Over the last few years as age has mellowed him and he's discovered that he doesn't NEED the Bushies in order to win, he's gotten more Tea Party guy and seems to be comfortable with himself and having a ball.
Of the "two Rick's", I think the current one is the real deal.
He changed a lot after he kicked Kay Bailey's ass to hell and back. I think he had wondered if maybe the Bush/RINO/money machine might be too strong to anger, but Rick went for it, and he won. His confidence has been kinda charming.
Posted by: Less at June 18, 2011 06:41 PM (PGXeZ)
He is not GWB. He'll shoot you in the face as soon as look at you.
This is one thing I like to hear. Something that worries me about TPaw for instance. I want someone fearless.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 18, 2011 06:41 PM (x/9BF)
Posted by: sloganmaker 2000 at June 18, 2011 06:42 PM (GTbGH)
THISinfinity.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 06:44 PM (AwN6x)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 06:44 PM (iGZkF)
Rick Perry is a bad ass mofaku. He fights dirty, and he fights to win. He doesn't give a shit. He eats cobras.
His political baggage is pretty light. I've watched him for 15 years, and he is not a nancy-boy in the ring.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 18, 2011 06:44 PM (Wh0W+)
http://is.gd/N921Qd
It can help clear up some of the confusion about earlier Rick versus current Rick.
Posted by: Less at June 18, 2011 06:45 PM (PGXeZ)
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 18, 2011 06:45 PM (yrGif)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 18, 2011 06:45 PM (qaU+h)
And ruthless, when necessary
Yeah.
This is something that has nothing to do with positions or rhetoric either.
It's in some one's DNA. You either have a fighting, killer instinct, or you don't.
From what I know about Perry, he seems to possess this. Again, a good politician (said in a non judgemental way for the purposes of this post).
Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 18, 2011 06:46 PM (dEtCk)
That link to Kevin Williamson's article again, this time perhaps clickable.
http://is.gd/N921Qd
Posted by: Less at June 18, 2011 06:46 PM (PGXeZ)
Posted by: Texan Economist at June 18, 2011 06:47 PM (TC/9F)
Posted by: Robin Munn at June 18, 2011 06:49 PM (rbz1A)
I'm glad we can't speak of the Dem women. We are better, or something.
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 06:49 PM (OhYCU)
You seem concerned. Are you Christian as well?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 18, 2011 06:49 PM (qaU+h)
Posted by: Bosk at June 18, 2011 06:49 PM (WCsll)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 18, 2011 06:49 PM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 18, 2011 06:50 PM (yrGif)
Posted by: Robert (tongue planted firmly in cheek so don't fecking start) at June 18, 2011 06:50 PM (4q6A5)
I do like the fact that he is traditionally handsome, seems to be charming...
A mans man.
I wish this didn't matter. I wish Calvin "super beta" Coolidge could be elected in this day and age, but he can't. Superficial traits, like looks and charm play a big role.
Especially with female voters.
If Perry runs, we have the alpha slickster/club going cool kid(no I don't think Obama is an alpha except in status/arrogance) vs the alpha protector/provider.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 18, 2011 06:51 PM (t2Zxt)
And now the Texas story. Job creation. 47.8% of all jobs created in the nation in the last 2 years.
Does that mean that the remaining 52.8% are the Governmen jobs created by 0bama?
Posted by: rabidfox at June 18, 2011 06:52 PM (Rmfxy)
Posted by: johnc_recent_EXdem at June 18, 2011 06:52 PM (ACkhT)
Thinkin' you might get some movement on the whole secure borders issue with this ticket.
Don't think I'm gonna get my wolf killer, so I'll take the coyote killer for the win.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 06:53 PM (XyjRQ)
Posted by: Alamo at June 18, 2011 06:55 PM (3KVcx)
Stats without context are very convenient things to throw around. This number (47.8% of all jobs) seems awfully high to me but more data would help.
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 18, 2011 06:55 PM (yrGif)
I have it from an unnamed source that what he's actually planning on doing is Annexing the rest of the 57 + 2 more States.
And then he's gonna dig up Santa Ana's leg and use that for a pedestal for that bust of Churchill that Obama sent back.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 18, 2011 06:56 PM (zx/b9)
He's a definite no.
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 18, 2011 06:57 PM (ITYRW)
Posted by: maybe the dems can play hide and go fuck themselves at June 18, 2011 06:57 PM (gEjgw)
I'd take either, though in the interest of building a deep bench would hold Rubio off for 4 or 8 years so he could step in when Perry's done.And that's assuming Bachman is cool with it.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 06:57 PM (XyjRQ)
brb bunking.
Posted by: alexthechick at June 18, 2011 06:57 PM (sf+iw)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 18, 2011 10:51 PM (Wh0W+)
GWB = Judas Priest
Rick Perry = Iron Maiden
Posted by: Robert (tongue planted firmly in cheek so don't fecking start) at June 18, 2011 06:57 PM (4q6A5)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 18, 2011 06:58 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 06:58 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: The ghost of Anthony Weiner's penis at June 18, 2011 06:59 PM (GfYt/)
I miss the late recently-deceased Bill Clements, my favorite Texas Governor.
That was a seriously hard-assed motherfucker!
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 06:59 PM (UZOuI)
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 18, 2011 10:50 PM
He didn't use the salad fork at a Governor's meeting in Washington. Therefore he's not worthy like Huntsman
Don't give me any shit, I'm just an analyst doing my job
Posted by: Karl Rove at June 18, 2011 06:59 PM (so1xa)
Yeah, because we're going to need that to confront Biden.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 07:00 PM (JVE2g)
A Palin endorsement is the key for Perry to neutralize Bachmann and cruise to victory in the primaries.
Yeah. For all the battles this place has about Palin, I think we can probably all agree that her endorsement of him would be huge as far as the primaries go/separating him from other candidates.
Ask Nikki Haley.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 18, 2011 07:00 PM (jeBXD)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:01 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 18, 2011 10:50 PM
Rove is such a backstabbing motherfucker I actually wish that he had been frogmarched
Posted by: kbdabear at June 18, 2011 07:01 PM (so1xa)
miss the late recently-deceased Bill Clements, my favorite Texas Governor.
Was that the former president of SMU? Good Ole boy supreme if I've got the right guy.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 18, 2011 07:02 PM (meepu)
I seem to recall Obama getting his dick sucked by a male escort named Larry Sinclair. No doubt about it.
Posted by: Ghost of TUCC Choir Director Donald Young at June 18, 2011 07:02 PM (qdI7N)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 18, 2011 07:03 PM (GTbGH)
Yeah, well- if confronting sloJoe is the issue, Perry should put the CEO of Blue Bell ice cream on the ticket.
Or someone who could shake a shiny keychain in Joe's direction.
Either way is good.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 07:03 PM (XyjRQ)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:03 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: D K Davis at June 18, 2011 07:03 PM (GOIQH)
Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at June 18, 2011 07:03 PM (08Pe8)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 07:04 PM (JVE2g)
Save the "Stache for Secretary of State. Now THAT'S a fuckin' reset button!
Posted by: Alamo at June 18, 2011 07:04 PM (3KVcx)
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at June 18, 2011 07:04 PM (ITYRW)
Posted by: beedubya at June 18, 2011 07:05 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: robtr at June 18, 2011 07:05 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:05 PM (OhYCU)
No no no I want the 'Stache to be head of the War Department.
Posted by: alexthechick at June 18, 2011 07:05 PM (sf+iw)
Where is the LET'S DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION ON THIS ONE RICK OLD BUDDY. Talking out of both sides of his mouth.
Posted by: MRMIKE at June 18, 2011 07:06 PM (U5TT1)
also it would be hilarious to have an Aggie president
(in the car today:
Me: I'm just saying, it would be awesome to have an Aggie president. It would drive the Longhorns nuts, and we would gloat insufferably.
My hubby, a Sun Devil: ...
Me: Ok, so we already do that about everything, but now we would have a REALLY good reason.)
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at June 18, 2011 07:06 PM (9JOC+)
Posted by: robtr at June 18, 2011 11:05 PM (MtwBb)
But it's cool if I elected to include a dicpic right??
Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 18, 2011 07:06 PM (AtFuo)
>> Doesn't he have some skeletons in his closet with respect to a TX death penalty case?
You may be thinkin about Karla Faye Tucker.
That was George Bush.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 18, 2011 07:07 PM (Wh0W+)
miss the late recently-deceased Bill Clements, my favorite Texas Governor.
Was that the former president of SMU? Good Ole boy supreme if I've got the right guy.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 18, 2011 11:02 PM (meepu)
He was tougher than shit. Literally rebuilt the Texas republican party. Firsy Republican Gov since Reconstruction. Came back and kicked Mark White's wimpy ass.
Former roughneck, oilfield all the way.
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 07:07 PM (UZOuI)
Posted by: rabidfox at June 18, 2011 07:07 PM (Rmfxy)
Posted by: Mindy at June 18, 2011 07:07 PM (AH01R)
That's the beauty of it. With Bolton at the helm, the Department of State becomes the War Department by default.
Posted by: Alamo at June 18, 2011 07:08 PM (3KVcx)
Governor Rick would have to don an SS uniform, shoot the Pope on live television, and give Florida back to Spain for me not to vote for him over Obama. And even then, I would have to think about it.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 07:09 PM (JVE2g)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 18, 2011 07:09 PM (Wh0W+)
No need to pull Rubio from the Senate... he has a lot work to do in straightening up the shit hole place when we get back the majority...
Posted by: phreshone at June 18, 2011 07:09 PM (T3vCe)
Former roughneck, oilfield all the way.
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 11:07 PM (UZOuI)
Oh ok. Thanks. I thought I was thinking of the right guy. Preceded Ann Richards.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at June 18, 2011 07:09 PM (coVpK)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:09 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:10 PM (OhYCU)
I need a 8bit CAC chart.
Posted by: The Ghosts at June 18, 2011 07:11 PM (GTbGH)
I feel very old and sad suddenly. RIP Big Man.
Posted by: dot at June 18, 2011 07:12 PM (hyP1j)
Honestly, I don't really care if Perry personally pulled the lever.
I'm just asking about this "scandal" to hear more about it. I guarantee it will get dragged up again if Perry makes any kind of headway against Romney, et all.
For any that are interested, here's a link to the Perry coyote shooting incident from April of last year:
And here's the relevant Democrat comparison:
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 07:12 PM (KNy97)
Meh.
She's damaged goods now. So is he.
No need to pull Rubio from the Senate... he has a lot work to do in straightening up the shit hole place when we get back the majority...
That's easy. Senator Allen West.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 07:12 PM (JVE2g)
Dunno if I'm seeing that- a lot of bad blood, and a shit ton of egos in that one- how long you think Hillary would stand for stutters golfing 12 weeks in a row while she did the work and he took the credit? Agree it'd be a game changer but nope, I ain't seein' it.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 07:12 PM (XyjRQ)
Posted by: rabidfox at June 18, 2011 07:12 PM (Rmfxy)
So it's agreed upon.....
The Morons want a Roemer/ Perry ticket.
Finally, something all of us can rally around.
Posted by: Delta Smelt the annoying Roemer guy at June 18, 2011 07:13 PM (AtFuo)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 07:14 PM (ExKx3)
We'll let you immigrate to Lower Georgia first. Also we get to keep the manatees because manatees are awesome.
Posted by: alexthechick at June 18, 2011 07:14 PM (sf+iw)
Yep nice.
...then why does he smell like just another politician to me. If he got the nod, I'd vote for Gov. Notobama. Yes, I would. I'm nice that way.
I'm just burnt out with these guys. All hat, no cattle...and conservatives haven't made a step forward in over two decades.
Posted by: trainer at June 18, 2011 07:14 PM (yCWYQ)
Hillary ain't that stupid.
If she wants to be president, she has a better chance of running in 16 against a "failed" Perry regime.
Posted by: Delta Smelt the annoying Roemer guy at June 18, 2011 07:14 PM (+3d8E)
Posted by: packsoldier at June 18, 2011 07:15 PM (FJeFB)
Posted by: davidt at June 18, 2011 07:15 PM (GfhFm)
Posted by: Hopeful Moron at June 18, 2011 07:15 PM (qdI7N)
His political baggage is pretty light. I've watched him for 15 years, and he is not a nancy-boy in the ring.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 18, 2011 10:44 PM
That is reassuring. I hope he isn't another big gubmint Bushie.
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 18, 2011 07:15 PM (c/khY)
Posted by: beedubya at June 18, 2011 07:16 PM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:16 PM (OhYCU)
And your point would be....?
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 07:16 PM (XyjRQ)
Governor Rick would have to don an SS uniform, shoot the Pope on live television, and give Florida back to Spain for me not to vote for him over Obama. And even then, I would have to think about it.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 11:09 PM (JVE2g)
Circa I agree with you . I am just saying that even though Perry has better (by a long shot) qualities than Barry, He is not as pure as the driven snow. Yes Texas is nowhere near as bad off as the rest of the country, there are some major policy flaws that will need to be addressed and this is one of them
Posted by: MRMIKE at June 18, 2011 07:16 PM (U5TT1)
I will take toll roads over deficits to build high speed rail any day.
Next argument, please.
P.S.: If you have a problem with Hep B vaccinations, you're an idiot.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 07:16 PM (JVE2g)
I just found out some important news... Bristol Palin lost her virginity while drunk.
Posted by: Cherry ð the unbanned at June 18, 2011 10:49 PM (OhYCU)
So did I!
Posted by: Truck Monkey at June 18, 2011 07:17 PM (yQWNf)
No, not Bush.
Its pretty much a given that every TX governor will have some death penalty hangover, since TX is one of the only states still actually executing people, and that riles up many anti-death penalty sorts.
IIRC, the story with Perry was that he fired some subordinate to stonewall an investigation into a possible execution of an innocent man.
Its probably this, though the account on this page is fairly weak.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 07:17 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: rdbrewer at June 18, 2011 07:18 PM (c/khY)
Posted by: MRMIKE at June 18, 2011 11:06 PM (U5TT1)
Paulbot horseshit.
Fuck off.
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 07:18 PM (UZOuI)
...and stop it, you're scaring me
Posted by: Tim Pawlenty at June 18, 2011 07:18 PM (AnTyA)
I miss the late recently-deceased Bill Clements, my favorite Texas Governor.
That was a seriously hard-assed motherfucker!
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 10:59 PM (UZOuI)
Bill Clements killed a man in Waco
Just to watch him die
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, only occasionally wrong at June 18, 2011 07:19 PM (UqKQV)
We have officially worried some "concerned conservative". HAH.
Obama/Biden = Chevy Volt
Perry/Rubio = 67 Camaro, 4 barrel v8 350, Hurst floor shifter.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 18, 2011 07:19 PM (Wh0W+)
Around here Sheriff Joe is one of the good guys that helps protect our national boarders by doing what the feds won't. Had to step back to figure out that you were talking about Bumbling Joe, the Jokers top henchman.
Thanks for the update on Ryan, but he might still get asked and he might rise to the occasion. I think that it probably would be better for him to stay in the House and fix this government.
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 07:19 PM (iGZkF)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 11:14 PM (ExKx3)
Let me guess, Ron Paul!!!!!!!! right?
Posted by: robtr at June 18, 2011 07:19 PM (MtwBb)
Bill Clements killed a man in Waco
Just to watch him die
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, only occasionally wrong at June 18, 2011 11:19 PM (UqKQV)
I thought that was Janet Reno?
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 18, 2011 07:19 PM (yrGif)
" I just found out some important news... Bristol Palin lost her virginity while drunk."
Whoa..That's never happened before.
Posted by: Bosk at June 18, 2011 07:20 PM (WCsll)
Bill Clements killed a man in Waco
Just to watch him die
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, only occasionally wrong at June 18, 2011 11:19 PM (UqKQV)
Well, he did kill quite a few in Huntsville..
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 07:20 PM (UZOuI)
hmmm..
Perry/ Rubio - 69 Z28 RS, tunnel ram, 4W disk brakes, Miss Hurst in the back
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:21 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: rabidfox at June 18, 2011 07:21 PM (Rmfxy)
I thought that was Janet Reno?
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 18, 2011 11:19 PM (yrGif)
Reno ( the original wookie ) killed 82 people in Waco
Just because she could
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, only occasionally wrong at June 18, 2011 07:21 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 18, 2011 07:22 PM (GTbGH)
GWB = Yes
Rick Perry = Pantera
Posted by: Bosk at June 18, 2011 11:12 PM (WCsll)
Barack Obama = Wham
Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2011 07:22 PM (bgcml)
As Ron White says, "If you commit murder in Texas we will kill you back..."
The anti-death penalty sorts are 95% liberal pansies, we don't need their votes, and any Republican worth electing wouldn't get their support anyway.
Posted by: Alamo at June 18, 2011 07:23 PM (3KVcx)
Reno ( the original wookie ) killed 82 people in Waco
Just because she could
No no no no....it was for the cheel rins. Wingnutz.
Posted by: typical pretzel logic lefty at June 18, 2011 07:23 PM (XyjRQ)
Paultard denouncing Washington's actions in the Whiskey Rebellion in 3...2...1....
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 07:23 PM (JVE2g)
"Governor Rick would have to don an SS uniform, shoot the Pope on live television, and give Florida back to Spain for me not to vote for him over Obama. And even then, I would have to think about it."
None of those things would be a deal breaker for me.
Posted by: gebrauchshund at June 18, 2011 07:24 PM (iYwUw)
Oh, I forgot. Apparently the Republican Party plans to run on the ever-popular pro-secession platform. So Perry will fit right in. Never mind.
Posted by: packsoldier at June 18, 2011 07:25 PM (FJeFB)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 18, 2011 11:09 PM (Wh0W+)
Just tell him to blow you
Posted by: Tim Pawlenty at June 18, 2011 07:25 PM (AnTyA)
Hillary isn't going to run for VP she would be almost 70 when she got her turn and president. I don't see her spending 4 years doing Obama's clean up work just to lose a general election.
I also don't agree she would be that much of an asset if she did run.
Posted by: robtr at June 18, 2011 07:26 PM (MtwBb)
Does Hillary get Obama many votes that he doesn't already have soon up? Remember all the Pumas that were going to ditch Obama in the general....and then nothing of the sort happened?
Of course I don't see who Obama could pick that would help him. A "moderate" democrat points out Obama is a hard lefty. Another lefty democrat focuses attention on Obama's myriad policy failures.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2011 07:26 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: phreshone at June 18, 2011 07:26 PM (T3vCe)
No no no no....it was for the cheel rins. Wingnutz.
Posted by: typical pretzel logic lefty at June 18, 2011 11:23 PM (XyjRQ)
We had to kill the children to save them.
Posted by: Janet Reno at June 18, 2011 07:27 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 07:27 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: rabidfox at June 18, 2011 07:27 PM (Rmfxy)
===
Despite her current popularity, I seem to recall last time Hillary not being able to win the Democrat nomination over Obama.
She's already part of his cabinet, and bluntly, not exactly doing a bang-up job on foreign policy. Is displacing Biden for her really going to help his ticket?
More to the point, I just don't think she wants to stand behind Obama being a "cheerleader" during his campaign or for the four years afterwards.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 07:27 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: phreshone at June 18, 2011 11:26 PM (T3vCe)
I will, right after I get finished reading The Nation
Posted by: robtr at June 18, 2011 07:28 PM (MtwBb)
( one event did not cause the other; rather, their occurances were fortuitous )
Clements swept crap-weasels like Dolph Briscoe and John Hill clean out of town
good times.......
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, only occasionally wrong at June 18, 2011 07:28 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:28 PM (OhYCU)
You decided not to opt-out?
Posted by: toby928™ at June 18, 2011 07:28 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: brak at June 18, 2011 07:29 PM (nIoiW)
Yes.
Also, killing grandmothers, racism, war with Iran, tax breaks for the rich, mandatory sodomy for head start programs, polar bear extinction, and super secret chemical/genetic/radiological experiments that will go horribly wrong.
Next.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 07:29 PM (JVE2g)
Of course I don't see who Obama could pick that would help him.
I'd say a younger dynamic progressive type. It would have to be a personality play.
It won't matter much if the conditions we are seeing now persist in to 12.
Posted by: Delta Smelt the annoying Roemer guy at June 18, 2011 07:29 PM (cwQ4k)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 07:29 PM (iGZkF)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 07:29 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:30 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 11:27 PM (ExKx3)
That's weird, it is my understanding that you can opt out of taking that vaccine in Texas.
Posted by: robtr at June 18, 2011 07:30 PM (MtwBb)
Yes. Very good, sir. Here's your monocle and top hat, sir. Shall I summon the Bentley?
Posted by: toby928™ at June 18, 2011 07:31 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 07:32 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 11:29 PM (ExKx3)
WTF?
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 07:32 PM (UZOuI)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:32 PM (OhYCU)
Why didn't anyone tell me this thread was here?
I watched the video over at hot air, and I'm worried.
Perry sounds exactly like George W. Bush. It's uncanny.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 07:32 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: Prof. Heinz Doofensmirtz at June 18, 2011 07:33 PM (laiup)
The guy endorsed Giuliani in '08. As others mentioned, he was originally a Democrat and was the chairman for Al Gore's campaign in Texas in '88.
Now, in the big scheme of things, that really doesn't bother me that much. Being a Democrat in Texas didn't signify a lot about your politics, even as late as the 80s and, people forget this, but there was a time when Al Gore was a lot more conservative than he is now. In fact, there was a time when he was pro-life (I don't remember if he still was by '8
. I do not think Perry is some sort of closet lib. I'm sure his inclinations are conservative. What makes me wary is that's all I'm sure of. Bush was an ideologue when it came to social issues. It wasn't just just politics, he could speak deeply and in a heart-felt manner about it. Perry...again, I'm sure his inclinations are conservative, but everybody's talking like he's an ideologue. I just think there's a lot of room for skepticism there.Posted by: AD at June 18, 2011 07:33 PM (G6N+V)
Polish it up with the whale-skin chamois first. There's a good chap.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 07:33 PM (JVE2g)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 07:33 PM (ExKx3)
Inquiring minds want to know.......
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, only occasionally wrong at June 18, 2011 07:35 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:35 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 07:36 PM (iGZkF)
Big mistake.
And I say this as someone who, at present, would be likely to vote for Romney.
Perry is going to be someone to watch.
Posted by: Clueless at June 18, 2011 07:36 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: AD at June 18, 2011 11:33 PM (G6N+V)
Skepticism is any SCIENCE! And you do love science don't you?
Posted by: Some Warmist at June 18, 2011 07:36 PM (bgcml)
GONZOTX,
I wasn't comparing their positions. I know nothing about Perry, I'm simply talking about the way they sound.
Go watch a speech from early in Bush's presidency and then watch the Perry video above.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 07:36 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 11:33 PM (ExKx3)
If there is anything lower than a Texas Democrat, I don't know what the fuck that it. Buttsucking crapweasels. They ran this state for 100 years like a crooked fiefdom.
Lying about your own daughter is lower than shit, but not unexpected for a Texas Dim.
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 07:37 PM (UZOuI)
Hilary Clinton is already part of the Obama administration, and a vote for him is already a vote for her.
Is moving her to the VP slot really going to be a "game changer"? Specifically, who is going to vote for Obama specifically because she is on the ticket that wouldn't have otherwise voted for him?
He didn't pick her as VP last time, and I know there was quite a bit of bad blood between the Clinton camp and his. Its not clear that he'd be willing to ask her, and I'd say its an open question whether she'd even agree to be his VP if asked.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 07:37 PM (KNy97)
Totally O/T but frilliant: Debbie Wasserman Test, Alligator Barbie.
Check the P-shop in the second comment.
Posted by: RushBabe at June 18, 2011 07:37 PM (Ew27I)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:37 PM (OhYCU)
Ooooh, BIG BUSINESS.
Are there JEWS AMONG THEM?
How about PROPONENTS OF INTERVENTION?
The scary ghost thread is below.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 07:37 PM (JVE2g)
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 07:38 PM (XyjRQ)
Perry is in the pocket of big business. If you want things unchanged, vote for him
Ooooh, BIG BUSINESS.
Are there JEWS AMONG THEM?
How about PROPONENTS OF INTERVENTION?
The scary ghost thread is below.
There are jews there too. I think I saw Elijah in that thread, somebody drank my bottle of wine
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 07:39 PM (DKV43)
GWB = Foreigner
Rick Perry = Foghat
Barack Obama = Devo Captain and Tenille.Posted by: 2cents Moron at June 1
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at June 18, 2011 07:39 PM (uO1x1)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at June 18, 2011 07:40 PM (uO1x1)
Hummm, Circa, I like that one! Any chance? or are you just a tease?
It makes sense. Gives the ticket two heavy hitters on the executive experience front, plus Kasich has long Washington experience and knows the ins and outs of budgets.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 07:41 PM (JVE2g)
Posted by: robtr at June 18, 2011 07:41 PM (MtwBb)
Trust said Bentley features a baby harp seal skin interior. And the monocle was etched with the tears of the indigent.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 07:41 PM (XyjRQ)
Perry/Kasich
Hummm, Circa, I like that one! Any chance? or are you just a tease?
Uh no.
GOP candidate/ Rubio.
Rubio is a star(the closest thing to Reagan we've seen) and will be President of the United States someday. Just a matter of time.
Rock Stars don't sit in the Senate debating bills with Charles Grassley.
Oh and Kasich has bad hair and has a weak short game.
Posted by: Delta Smelt the annoying Roemer guy at June 18, 2011 07:41 PM (PZOQu)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 07:42 PM (ExKx3)
@216 Ben- are you a concerned Christian conservative or something?
Not quite. It's just that I've never heard Perry speak before. Maybe once on the radio or something. I'm suprised how similar he is to W in mannerisms and speaking style.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 07:42 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, only occasionally wrong at June 18, 2011 07:43 PM (UqKQV)
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Come again?
So you're saying there is no difference between Obama and Perry?
Which Republican candidate is NOT "pro-business"?
As far as I can tell, with the current administration shitting on business in every way possible (ie pro-tax, pro-regulation, pro-union, pro-healthcare mandate, etc), I think a little "pro-business" administration is a GOOD thing.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 07:43 PM (KNy97)
I worry about the Bush mannerisms giving credibility to the "RETURN OF BUSH" argument Dems will use. He seems pretty sharp, though.
Posted by: Crazee at June 18, 2011 07:43 PM (H3ujh)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 07:43 PM (iGZkF)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:43 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: robtr at June 18, 2011 11:41 PM (MtwBb)
The people have seized this website!
Posted by: The Noodles Popular Front at June 18, 2011 07:43 PM (bgcml)
I will say a Perry/ Kasich ticket balances out regions, and helps with a swing state so it makes sense.
Wasn't trying to denigrate your thought process.
Posted by: Delta Smelt the annoying Roemer guy at June 18, 2011 07:44 PM (epI4L)
Jeebers. Every time someone posts something about a potential candidate we get people here nobody's ever seen before.
Perry has fought Obama every damn chance he's had. It would be an epic campaign/election cycle. For one thing Obama hates him so much, you'd finally get to see Obama lose his shit on camera.
Most people know I support Palin, but if she doesn't get in and Perry does he's got my vote with no hesitation. He's the only one with the balls to bring it to Obama the way it should be done. Well, except Sarah. 
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 07:44 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 11:42 PM (ExKx3)
I will not punch down; I will not punch down; I will not punch down.....
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, only occasionally wrong at June 18, 2011 07:44 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:44 PM (OhYCU)
GOP candidate/ Rubio.
Rubio is a star(the closest thing to Reagan we've seen) and will be President of the United States someday. Just a matter of time.
Rock Stars don't sit in the Senate debating bills with Charles Grassley.
Oh and Kasich has bad hair and has a weak short game.
Indeed, Rubio is the VP candidate, it's practically written in stone.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 07:44 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 07:45 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 07:45 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 07:46 PM (ExKx3)
Recombinant Hep B vaccine is totally harmless, or about as close to it as a vaccine can physically be.
I've had it myself multiple times, I'd have it again, if necessary.
I'd give it to my kids. . .and have. . . multiple times.
Its also mandatory in EVERY State but Alabama, Montana, and South Dakota, and has been in most states for many years.
So what's your beef against Governor Perry again?
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 07:47 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: rabidfox at June 18, 2011 07:47 PM (Rmfxy)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 18, 2011 07:47 PM (OhYCU)
>> I am a Puma and believe me, I voted McCain. Go to Hillaryis44.org sometime, your eyes will be opened. It has is a great ADMINISTRATOR. Excellent insights, incredible posts.
HAHAHAHA..
Ok honey. Thanks so.
There is an opt out. Which you know.
Opt.
Out.
Case closed.
*god I love you though. Tigers!
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 18, 2011 07:48 PM (Wh0W+)
Profits, Not Science, Drive Vaccine Mandates
The other hepatitis B vaccine manufacturer, SmithKline Beecham, ... collecting between $50000-$100000 from vaccine maker Wyeth for Texas lobbying activities
enough!
I hear Herr Krupp made three marks per German soldier killed by selling his Kpz fuse to the English!
And don't get me started on DuPont.
Posted by: Ben Spinner of Post WW 1 News at June 18, 2011 07:48 PM (DKV43)
My two kids are doing fine and don't have to ever worry about it--because they have been vaccinated, dolt.
And you might want to check the logic string on that last clause.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 07:48 PM (xGuqw)
I suggest people stick to arguing issues. This crap about who backs who is boring.
So far the three main hits you'll see against Perry are related to illegal aliens (or for Republicans who constantly allow Dems to control the framing of issues, "immigration"),
His involvement with the Gardasil thingy. No, I do not care if I spelled it right.
The toll road thingy.
Will any of those things keep you from voting for the man, or not?
Posted by: K~Bob at June 18, 2011 07:49 PM (zx/b9)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 07:49 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: this is GONZO on drugs at June 18, 2011 07:49 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 18, 2011 11:48 PM (Wh0W+)
Thanks Dave.
I was going to have to take a Hep B vaccine myself from being too close to that troll.
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 07:50 PM (UZOuI)
Posted by: Dick_Nixon at June 18, 2011 07:50 PM (2gjBQ)
No, no, and no.
Plus, he ain't Stutters the economy killing clown. So there's that.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 07:50 PM (XyjRQ)
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 07:51 PM (DKV43)
The stupidest political "position" anyone has ever stated, and unfortunately you hear it frequently, from stupid people. If you are not voting for a person who will best represent your political views, you probably have none. And you probably blame a governor for a decision you made.
Posted by: Alamo at June 18, 2011 07:51 PM (3KVcx)
Yes. That difference is called Communism.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 18, 2011 07:51 PM (5Xf3c)
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 11:51 PM (DKV43)
Tell me that's snarc...come on fess up.
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 07:51 PM (AkdC5)
I know this is not what you all want to hear, because like most conservatives, you are all optimists. But trust me, Perry will let you down. The only thing he has going for him is the right ideology, which makes him a universe better than Obama, but some bad decisions and lack of depth make him a less desirable nominee.
Posted by: Brisco_County at June 18, 2011 07:51 PM (XnIt1)
Posted by: this is GONZO on drugs at June 18, 2011 07:51 PM (UqKQV)
If Perry is in then he is immediately top tier and soon putting Romney out of the race. With Romney gone and Perry rolling the others will also quickly drop out. Then it will be just the VP dance and who knows how that will go, but there are a lot of good choices.
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 07:52 PM (iGZkF)
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 11:51 PM (DKV43)
I hear he rapes puppies and sucks Obama's ass at stag parties.
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 07:52 PM (UZOuI)
But his mannerisms and voice sound just like Mitt Romney....it's creepy I tell ya.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 07:53 PM (XyjRQ)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not totally there yet at June 18, 2011 07:53 PM (UqKQV)
Tell me that's snarc...come on fess up.
tis, tis. I cannot lie. He's a douche of mormanic proportions
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 07:53 PM (DKV43)
Thanks for stopping by. Devote the same amount of time to an Econ 101 text that you devote to vaccination rants and maybe you will be on to something. THE WORKERS is a trademark tell of the union tool.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 07:53 PM (xGuqw)
Ok, don't kill the messenger as I only tells it likes I sees it....but I live in a very conservative area and I haven't seen or heard one single person that likes Palin. It's kind of scary that there is such a void of support for her here.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at June 18, 2011 07:54 PM (uO1x1)
FDR loved his country, and was willing to fight. I grant him that. And big spending to fix a depression was a novel concept, and may have been worth a try. But in terms of long lasting deficits, most of our problems are the fault of FDR and LBJ.
And maybe Carter...
Posted by: Crazee at June 18, 2011 07:54 PM (H3ujh)
Then boobie pix are in order. It's just common decency......
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 18, 2011 07:54 PM (5Xf3c)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 07:54 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 11:51 PM (DKV43)
I hear he rapes puppies and sucks Obama's ass at stag parties.
I hear he helped Lawrence O'Donnell dodge the Vietnam draft.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 07:54 PM (DKV43)
The National Vaccine Information Center is a collection of cranks and loons. It is not a scientific or governmental organization.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 07:55 PM (xGuqw)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 11:54 PM (ExKx3)
Thanks for dropping by, dickbreath.
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 07:56 PM (UZOuI)
Hands down I would vote for Hillary.
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 11:54 PM (ExKx3)
Do you have a newsletter?
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not Punching Down yet at June 18, 2011 07:56 PM (UqKQV)
This is the first time i've seen Perry, I'll admit I like the content of the speech, I just didn't realize that all you Texan Governors sounded like that.
I'm gonna wait to see him in a debate, or give a few more speeches before I enthusiastically jump on his bandwagon.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 07:56 PM (DKV43)
Hands down I would vote for Hillary.
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 11:54 PM (ExKx3)
2 things. You are starting to bug the fuck out of me and you should see a shrink.
Posted by: Jackhole at June 18, 2011 07:57 PM (DU15A)
>> Perry will never support the worker, he always sides with business, always.
DING DING DING DING DING. HAHAHAHAHA.
homo.
>> I'm a Texas conservative that has never voted for a Democrat in his life-- until the day I voted against Rick Perry.
Are you "concerned??"
also homo
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 18, 2011 07:57 PM (Wh0W+)
sucks Obama's ass at stag parties.
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 11:52 PM (UZOuI)
Is that bad? Should I not have done that?
Posted by: David Brooks at June 18, 2011 07:57 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 18, 2011 07:57 PM (i6Neb)
Workers of the world unite! Folks, we have ourselves a Marxist....
Posted by: Alamo at June 18, 2011 07:58 PM (3KVcx)
But trust me, Perry will let you down. The only thing he has going for him is the right ideology, which makes him a universe better than Obama, but some bad decisions and lack of depth make him a less desirable nominee.
Brisco: If that's the case, we'll find out soon enough. In the mean time we have a candidate who likes the idea of socalized medicine and cap & trade and another who is willing to take pot shots as rivals from a distance but backs down when face to face (there is a name for that kind of behavior) or a candidate who is certifiably nuts. Lets see what Perry has to offer on the campaign trail.
Posted by: rabidfox at June 18, 2011 07:58 PM (Rmfxy)
"Dickbreath"was awfully coarse, my Hebrew friend.
You meant to say "retard", of course.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 18, 2011 07:58 PM (5Xf3c)
I'm hearing good things about this Jon Huntsman fellow..
Huntsman/ That midget from Fantasy Island 2012!!!!!
Posted by: Delta Smelt the annoying Roemer guy at June 18, 2011 07:58 PM (/UvCX)
If my dog is the nominee but has an R after his name I am voting for him!
Obama is killing us small business owners!!
Posted by: TypicalWhitey at June 18, 2011 07:58 PM (xeVap)
Hands down I would vote solve the ATM problem with for Hillary.
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 11:54 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 07:58 PM (DKV43)
Posted by: davidt at June 18, 2011 07:58 PM (GfhFm)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 11:54 PM (ExKx3)
I am not sure we have much in common. Do you like fishing? I like to fish.
Posted by: robtr at June 18, 2011 07:59 PM (MtwBb)
Helping business is good, helping one business crush another is not.
That said, I don't see any proof Perry has done that. That IS what Obama does.
ALL.THE,TIME.
Posted by: Crazee at June 18, 2011 07:59 PM (H3ujh)
This might be the only reason I would vote for Perry in the primaries.
Posted by: Brisco_County at June 18, 2011 07:59 PM (XnIt1)
I hear he helped Lawrence O'Donnell dodge the Vietnam draft.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 11:54 PM (DKV43)
I once killed a draft dodger just to use his spleen to polish my many medals from VIET-fucking-NAM
Posted by: Sen Dick Blumenthal at June 18, 2011 07:59 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 08:00 PM (iGZkF)
Obama = Girl's Bike
Perry = '52 Shovelhead bobber
Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 18, 2011 11:59 PM (pwMmq)
Hey, does that bicycle need a seat Mr President?
Posted by: Anderson Cooper at June 18, 2011 08:00 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 08:00 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 18, 2011 08:01 PM (i6Neb)
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 08:01 PM (DKV43)
I once killed a draft dodger just to use his spleen to polish my many medals from VIET-fucking-NAM
Posted by: Sen Dick Blumenthal at June 18, 2011 11:59 PM (bgcml)
Ooooh , Ooooh. Tell the the part about when you used a dead Charlie to replace your face. Great story.
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz at June 18, 2011 08:01 PM (5Xf3c)
Fucked up the scooter analogy. '52 Panhead.
Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 18, 2011 08:01 PM (pwMmq)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at June 18, 2011 08:02 PM (uO1x1)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 08:02 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: davidt at June 18, 2011 11:58 PM (GfhFm)
The skill and girth of their tongues?
Posted by: Huma Abedin at June 18, 2011 08:02 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: Karl Marx at June 18, 2011 08:03 PM (5Xf3c)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:00 AM (ExKx3)
There are laws against all of that now. Please consult your local mental health professional.
Posted by: Jackhole at June 18, 2011 08:03 PM (DU15A)
@325.
Thanks for the info. I literally know nothing about Perry other than what I've read here. This is the first time i've seen him speak.
I am totally open to him getting in as I am looking for not-Romney as much as anyone else here, and T-Paw seems to be tanking.
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 08:03 PM (DKV43)
He is getting close, ever so close to doing just that. Thinking an "obie loses his shit on camera" pool might be in order.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 08:03 PM (XyjRQ)
Love at midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil, with concern
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not Punching Down yet at June 18, 2011 08:03 PM (UqKQV)
The other thing I want to see from a candidate is a plan for structural impediments to be put in place to prevent the government from doing nearly everything it has done over the past couple of years. The courts have to be reined in so that we can return to some sort of rational reading of the Constitution for one thing.
Posted by: Voluble at June 18, 2011 08:03 PM (JKX4x)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:00 AM (ExKx3)
Thank god the union got rid of those children stealing machines. Now they are all chained to their I phone
Posted by: robtr at June 18, 2011 08:04 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: ParisParamusInBrooklyn at June 18, 2011 08:05 PM (uTcBM)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 18, 2011 08:05 PM (i6Neb)
Yes, let's get real here. Tell me the chances of child labor making a comeback in the U.S. in 2011 because corporations are TEH EVILE and unions are all fairy dust and unicorn farts and then maybe I'll allow the idiotic historical non-seq.
Modern unions are poison. Don't believe me...go visit Detroit.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 08:05 PM (MqZWe)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at June 18, 2011 11:54 PM (uO1x1)
My rfirst sentence again. Most people know I like Sarah. Didn't say or ask about anyone else.
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 08:05 PM (AkdC5)
The problem is, how do you contain a fire with more fire?
Not that I disagree, but this is not a simple task, even for a President with a friendly congress...
Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2011 08:06 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 08:06 PM (ExKx3)
Wait, why have I been hiring skilled developers all these years when i can chain children to a computer for 12 hours a day!?!
Posted by: Bill Gates at June 18, 2011 08:07 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 18, 2011 08:07 PM (i6Neb)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:06 AM (ExKx3)
Do you like gladiator movies??
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not Punching Down yet at June 18, 2011 08:07 PM (UqKQV)
I went through this in 2007-2008, because I was a registered Democrat and hated both Obama AND Hillary. Eventually, I realized that a lot of what I had been told about what Democrats work for is a lie. It has been since the New Left era.
I'd go into more depth, but I'm posting while barely awake. I'd go to bed, but my neighbors are throwing a fucking party at 11 at night.
Posted by: Crazee at June 18, 2011 08:07 PM (H3ujh)
Circa, I have rows of textile machines in my basement that are just waiting for small, nimble childrens fingers to bring them back to life once more.
Soon...
Posted by: Ben at June 18, 2011 08:08 PM (DKV43)
Rick Perry is the longest serving Governor in Texas' History.
Barack Obama is the longest serving Worst President of the United States.
The choice is clear. Have a beer.
Posted by: The Dead Coyote Society at June 18, 2011 08:08 PM (qdI7N)
Posted by: Michael Savage at June 18, 2011 08:08 PM (60TKB)
Then move to France.
Not incidentally, here is a recent study from France debunking one of the bigger claims about Hep B vaccine. They attribute almost all adverse effects to one particular brand of vaccine.
But more to the point, the question isn't about Hep B vaccines, its about Perry.
The fact is, Hepatitis B vaccination became mandatory in Texas in 1998. That was when George Bush (not Perry) was Governor. Blaming Perry for this makes ZERO sense. .. he had nothing to do with it.
Further, and also going against your thesis, Texas isn't some weird outlier here. Hepatitis B vaccination is mandatory in 47/50 states right now. Texas wasn't an early adopter, nor is it some sort of outlier.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 08:09 PM (KNy97)
I know, it's maddening. Pawlenty showed he's not ready for primetime politics, and Romney... Ugh. Even Dems voted against ethanol subsidies! But I'm still more comfortable with Romney than Perry. Yeah, it's crazy, but I feel like what Romney has at his core is better for than country than what Perry offers on the surface.
Posted by: Brisco_County at June 18, 2011 08:09 PM (XnIt1)
I think I have a better idea. Hey...could you spare the chains though?
Posted by: Safe Schools Czar Jennings at June 18, 2011 08:09 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: Karl Marx at June 18, 2011 08:09 PM (5Xf3c)
Posted by: Steph at June 19, 2011 12:05 AM (AkdC5)
Not sure what that's supposed to mean, but I was just making an observation about the local political atmosphere here. If you're insinuating that I'm new here, I've been on this blog since Ace was in diapers. I just don't comment much.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at June 18, 2011 08:09 PM (uO1x1)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:00 AM (ExKx3)
Okay, now, the only thing I have to say to you is STFU.
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 08:09 PM (AkdC5)
" I actually do my research and look at their record. "
Your girl Hillary went on the Today Show and blatantly lied about her husband and the intern. Yet you support her.
She got her Senate Seat due to said husband. In a state neither had lived in before. Big accomplishment.
You remind me of a cross between a moby, a liar, and a dipshit.
Just saying.
Posted by: Dick_Nixon at June 18, 2011 08:10 PM (2gjBQ)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 08:10 PM (iGZkF)
Yes that is so.
Have you tried the "Texas Bammy hater" flavor yet? Delicious- takes like banned school cafeteria food.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 08:10 PM (XyjRQ)
Really? Because my kids are starting to piss me off and could use some "structure".
Posted by: Herr Morgenholz, Conservative Parent at June 18, 2011 08:11 PM (5Xf3c)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 18, 2011 08:12 PM (i6Neb)
Another plank for my platform at #204 above.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 08:12 PM (MqZWe)
Posted by: Larry Dickman at June 18, 2011 08:13 PM (4t9J5)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 08:13 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: XBradTC at June 18, 2011 08:13 PM (X0Ona)
Posted by: Dick_Nixon at June 18, 2011 08:14 PM (2gjBQ)
Posted by: Larry Dickman at June 19, 2011 12:13 AM (4t9J5)
Heh. I saw her in Des Moines -- she looked like a shar pei.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at June 18, 2011 08:14 PM (uO1x1)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 18, 2011 08:15 PM (i6Neb)
But seriously, not all partisans are corrupt party hacks. I agree with some liberals about the threat of corporatism, but the solution is Government taking a SMALLER role in the marketplace. Liberalism sounds like a remedy, but it's the cause. When Government controls the marketplace, larger companies have a much larger say in legislation and therefore influence legislation that destroys up and coming competition.
Some conservatives get so tired of anti-business socialist rhetoric, that they defend all companies. This isn't necessary. Some businesses should fail. But that failure should be a result of being beaten in a fair marketplace, not because Government regulates them out of existence.
Posted by: Crazee at June 18, 2011 08:16 PM (H3ujh)
Posted by: davidt at June 18, 2011 08:16 PM (GfhFm)
Posted by: rabidfox at June 18, 2011 08:16 PM (Rmfxy)
Nevermind.
Posted by: Tom at June 18, 2011 08:16 PM (nQR0p)
If you don't think Business isn't taking advantage of the situation now you are smoking something. I work 50 hour weeks minimum and if I want to keep my job there are to be no questions about it. The workload has literally doubled.
How many businesses have cut their jobs,benefits, but given huge bonus's at the top? This is only going to get worse.
I understand that in this climate I should be grateful for my job and I am, but they get a high level product in my work also.
Detroit, really, that's the best you have?
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:13 AM (ExKx3)
Yeah me too and I make good money and survived 3 rounds of layoffs in the last 3 years. That's why it's called work.
Posted by: Jackhole at June 18, 2011 08:16 PM (DU15A)
Comfortable with:
Anthropogenic Global Warming? Romney is.
Romneycare? He won't disavow it.
Ethanol subsidies? Yeah even as the tide is turning, Romney supports them.
Obviously if he's the nominee I'll support Mitt like my life depends on it. But I'll be sick about it.
Posted by: Alamo at June 18, 2011 08:16 PM (3KVcx)
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Stupid troll.
OK, let's get "real".
Historically, unions wanted to ban child labor not for altruistic reasons, but simply to protect dues-paying union jobs.
Meanwhile, child labor has been restricted by Federal law in this country for over 70 years.
So would you care to explain why we still need unions to prevent this from coming back? Other than the voices in your head, who is asking to stick kids back in factories nowadays?
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 08:17 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 08:17 PM (ExKx3)
Grandkids? Haven't Chelsea and her hubby already started having problems?
Posted by: Alec Baldwin at June 18, 2011 08:17 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: booger at June 18, 2011 08:17 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 08:18 PM (iGZkF)
Posted by: Rick Perry at June 18, 2011 08:18 PM (agD4m)
be real, man -- don't forget the E
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not Punching Down yet at June 18, 2011 08:19 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: booger at June 18, 2011 08:19 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at June 19, 2011 12:02 AM (uO1x1)
I made the statement I made because I knew your first reply to what I said was because of the thinking you espoused above.
My comment was mainly about Perry, although I did reference that I liked Sarah. None of the comments on this thread even had the appearance of what you call cultist or bots of any kind. You brought that here.
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 08:19 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 18, 2011 08:19 PM (i6Neb)
Nice refutation of the most visible example of the impact of predatory unionism.
Let me get this straight--your kid got sick from a vaccine AND you work 50 hour weeks for an ungrateful BUSINESStm?
Do you happen to have a gay brother that wants to marry a gay Marine, a mother who simply cannot afford her daily dialysis treatments, and first, second, and third mortgages on your house that roving bands of bankers forced upon you?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 08:20 PM (MqZWe)
How many businesses have cut their jobs,benefits, but given huge bonus's at the top? This is only going to get worse.
I understand that in this climate I should be grateful for my job and I am, but they get a high level product in my work also.
Detroit, really, that's the best you have?
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:13 AM (ExKx3)
You probably don't know this but liberal talking points don't sell well here. Jusy sayin.
Posted by: robtr at June 18, 2011 08:20 PM (MtwBb)
This includes prarie dogs, parrots, and hookers.
We always give the black folk grief for voting for the black candidate, not matter how corrupt and decrepit that candidate may be, but at this point, I'd vote for the homeless guy that has the "I'm a Vet" sign right outside the gate of Peterson AFB I saw today.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 08:20 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 18, 2011 08:20 PM (i6Neb)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 19, 2011 12:19 AM (i6Neb)
I think I could still beat him. Well, part of him.
Posted by: David Brooks at June 18, 2011 08:22 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 08:22 PM (ExKx3)
That would be "yourselves". Apparently the research you claim to undertake doesn't include perusing books on the subject of grammar, spelling, etc.
And the arguing amongst ourselves you speak of- feature, not bug on this blog.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 08:22 PM (XyjRQ)
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The way the economy is sputtering along now, I'd say ANY of the top tier Republican candidates could potentially beat Obama.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 08:23 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: XBradTC at June 18, 2011 08:23 PM (X0Ona)
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 19, 2011 12:22 AM (XyjRQ)
One of the core differences between left and right. We debate issues, they debates no more then tactics.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 18, 2011 08:23 PM (bgcml)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 18, 2011 08:24 PM (i6Neb)
I was saying that initially there was an honorable reason for workers to unite because of the abuses, but instead of holding true to that original concept it got high jacked, abused and in the end chocked on it's corruption.
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:22 AM (ExKx3)
Then you said we need them to support the workers. You are a troll or mentally unstable.
Posted by: Jackhole at June 18, 2011 08:24 PM (DU15A)
Only RINOs highlight arguments amongst ourselves.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 08:24 PM (MqZWe)
Posted by: looking closely at June 19, 2011 12:17 AM (KNy97)
We do
Posted by: Big ATM at June 18, 2011 08:24 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: looking closely at June 19, 2011 12:23 AM (KNy97)
Well, since you asked so nicely
Posted by: John "Tanned, Rested, and Ready" McCain at June 18, 2011 08:24 PM (bgcml)
While it bugs me that Romney pays lip service to the environmentalist religion, it is not my understanding that he supports cap and trade. If you have proof of this, please forward it to me so I'll have justification for killing the second half of this bottle of tequila. What I do believe is that Romney is going the same route as Bush by acknowledging AGW existence in order to fend off media while not committing to doing anything about it.
Posted by: Brisco_County at June 18, 2011 08:25 PM (XnIt1)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 18, 2011 08:27 PM (i6Neb)
You know if we'd just offered them some Obamacare and a Democrat Voter Guide, that movies would have ended on a much happier note.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at June 18, 2011 08:27 PM (bgcml)
And Empire Strikes Back on Spike
Posted by: booger at June 19, 2011 12:25 AM (9RFH1)
Thanks booger I was lookin for somethin to watch
Posted by: Jackhole at June 18, 2011 08:27 PM (DU15A)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:22 AM (ExKx3)
You know why jobs went overseas, right? It might have to do with over regulation and high corporate taxes.
Posted by: Crazee at June 18, 2011 08:27 PM (H3ujh)
GWB = Foreigner (meh)
Rick Perry = Foghat Sex Pistols
Posted by: 2cents Moron at June 18, 2011 11:35 PM (qdI7N)
My 2 peso
Posted by: YIKES! at June 18, 2011 08:27 PM (6B+2e)
Being OK with AGW is exactly the same as believing the world is flat and being proud of it. I'm not voting for someone who thinks the world is flat.
P.S.: Yes, Paultards, your guy probably thinks the world is flat.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 08:27 PM (MqZWe)
Rick Perry = Helmet
Barack Obama = Rihanna
Posted by: izoneguy at June 19, 2011 12:27 AM (i6Neb)
Helmet rocks !
Posted by: Jackhole at June 18, 2011 08:28 PM (DU15A)
Where the fuck do you people get that Perry is for Cap & Tradde or pays lip service to the enviromentalists? Jeebers on a fucking white bread sammich.
He's fought that shit from Obama from day fucking one. Isn't TX fighting in court the restrictions that deWon tried to force on TX?
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 08:28 PM (AkdC5)
James Bond gets old and becomes an English monk in Italy or somewhere
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not Punching Down yet at June 18, 2011 08:28 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: XBradTC at June 18, 2011 08:29 PM (X0Ona)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:22 AM (ExKx3)
You know why jobs went overseas, right? It might have to do with over regulation and high corporate taxes.
Posted by: Crazee at June 19, 2011 12:27 AM (H3ujh)
Unions killed the american car
Posted by: Jackhole at June 18, 2011 08:29 PM (DU15A)
I'll take hysterical overstatements for $200, Alex.
Next.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 08:30 PM (MqZWe)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 08:31 PM (iGZkF)
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 08:32 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 18, 2011 08:32 PM (i6Neb)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 08:33 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: Kanye West at June 18, 2011 08:34 PM (MqZWe)
Rick Perry = Helmet
Barack Obama = Rihanna
Best laugh I had all night. Today I was packing to move, and I found a set list from a Helmet concert that I got from Paige Hamilton himself. I don't see Perry as the Helmet of politicians, but I appreciate the attempt.
Posted by: Brisco_County at June 18, 2011 08:34 PM (XnIt1)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:33 AM (ExKx3)
And we won in 2010 because...?
Posted by: AD at June 18, 2011 08:34 PM (G6N+V)
That'd be "You're", research specialist. But illiterate dope is as illiterate dope does, I guess.
Now excuse us as we "take" to ourselves.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 08:35 PM (XyjRQ)
The GOP lost in 2008 for one reason, John McCain.
Posted by: Dick_Nixon at June 18, 2011 08:36 PM (2gjBQ)
Yep, made it a couple of hours ago, hoping for a solid week so i don't fall further behind in segment 2.
Posted by: booger at June 18, 2011 08:36 PM (9RFH1)
Posted by: Broccoli from Hell at June 18, 2011 08:36 PM (60TKB)
For someone so self- "educated" you're missing quite a bit here.
Not only does the US manufacture "things", the US happens to be the largest manufacturer in the world, putting out around 20% of the worlds total manufacturing output, and still even surpassing China by a considerable amount. We completely dominate in aircraft, automobiles, pharmaceuticals, medical equipment, etc.
In fact, as a percentage of the economy, manufacturing is the same today as it was 30 years ago, and contrary to popular belief, its actually growing overall. It just involves fewer jobs because its more automated than it used to be. In other words, we're putting out the same amount or more value of goods, just with far fewer people (who happen to be higher skilled).
Domestic manufacturing, is also one of the few areas showing some recent strength.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 08:37 PM (KNy97)
Using "only one who could beat Obama" as a measure of electability is about as significant as "breathes without needing prompting."
Posted by: K~Bob at June 18, 2011 08:37 PM (zx/b9)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:33 AM (ExKx3)
Then you'll have no problem crawling back to where you came from then, right?
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 08:37 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 18, 2011 08:38 PM (i6Neb)
If you don't think Business isn't taking advantage of the situation now you are smoking something. I work 50 hour weeks minimum and if I want to keep my job there are to be no questions about it. The workload has literally doubled.
How many businesses have cut their jobs,benefits, but given huge bonus's at the top? This is only going to get worse.
I understand that in this climate I should be grateful for my job and I am, but they get a high level product in my work also.
Detroit, really, that's the best you have?
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:13 AM (ExKx3)
Dear Dumbass,
I worked 60 hour weeks in a non-union job when I only got paid for 40, so go fuck yourself. The benefits? nonexistent. $680/month medical out of pocket, not paid by a fucking union. Paying out to solid executives that bring in work is good business. Paying out to people just because they're "union" is suicide.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 08:38 PM (x3YFz)
Chill, honey. I was talking about Romney.
Posted by: Brisco_County at June 18, 2011 08:38 PM (XnIt1)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 19, 2011 12:38 AM (iGZkF)
Uh, yep. It has sustained me since the asswipe got into the WH.
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 08:40 PM (AkdC5)
I'm convinced.
I think that more unionism, less vaccines, and just the right amount of Hillary will fix everything.
Hey, genius--project much? You haven't offered a single fact in support of anything that you have said tonight. Look around here a bit more and you'll see a preference for facts over talking points.
Want to know some secrets? Businesses create jobs. Vaccines keep kids from getting sick. Hillary is famous (not competent) because of her husband. Huge deficits are not stimulative. High speed rail is a chimera. The Libya thing is a war. We have no energy policy. The EPA kills jobs. AGW does not exist. And on and on...yet we are the close-minded ones.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 18, 2011 08:40 PM (MqZWe)
Posted by: Brisco_County at June 19, 2011 12:38 AM (XnIt1)
Yeah, I noted that in a comment right below that. Seeing red sometimes blurs my vision.
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 08:41 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 18, 2011 08:41 PM (i6Neb)
Yeah, I do the same thing when I'm drunk. Like now.
Posted by: Brisco_County at June 18, 2011 08:42 PM (XnIt1)
Me neither, at the end of the day they're all just fucking politicians. I'll vote for for one them but this need some people have to elevate them to some hero/savior status boogles my mind.
Posted by: lowandslow at June 18, 2011 08:43 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 08:44 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 08:44 PM (iGZkF)
BLASPHEMER!!!!
Posted by: Brother Skeeter, Church of the Dreamy Texan at June 18, 2011 08:45 PM (XyjRQ)
Rick Perry: Outlaw Josey Wales
Barack: Any Ingmar Bergman movie.
Hey, don't bag on Bergman. That dude had balls.
Posted by: Brisco_County at June 18, 2011 08:45 PM (XnIt1)
Nope, i only have one Roush car this week, but now that you mention it i might add a second.
Posted by: booger at June 18, 2011 08:45 PM (9RFH1)
Now I don't now how weakness in the dollar and our overall economic situation has affected the relative ratios of dollar output over the last year, but again, this idea that the USA isn't manufacturing anything is bunk.
In terms of dollar value, and as a percentage of the economy we're still building plenty of high-tech stuff, and that's not slacking off at all.
We just seen a loss in manufacturing jobs, since low-skilled (read "low paying") labor has either been replaced with automation, or has moved overseas.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 08:45 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:33 AM (ExKx3)
We lost in the presidential election because of McLoser. The dems ran Obama, A.K.A. Present. The dude did NOTHING as a senator. Nada. Zero. Present. The voted for him because he was black, repeated hippie talking points, and could read a teleprompter. That's it.
He's pretty much failed at every step as president. 75 rounds of golf? really? FFS I was a drill instructor, then a full time college student, then a defense contractor over a time-span of the last 20 years and I haven't played 75 rounds of golf. This motherfucker has done it in 2.3 years. AS PRESIDENT.
9.1% unemployment, no energy policy, a foreign policy in shambles, he's alienated all our allies... all this idiot can do is repeat the same lies over and over again and hope the voting public (like you) are stupid enough to believe him.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 08:46 PM (x3YFz)
At this point, I'm betting a lot of those Big Money folks who gave Mitt his big attaboy in Vegas are wishing they had been using desensitizing cream.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 18, 2011 08:46 PM (zx/b9)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 08:47 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 08:47 PM (ExKx3)
======
The first step is admitting that you have a problem.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 08:48 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 08:48 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 08:49 PM (iGZkF)
be real, man -- don't forget the E
Posted by: SantaRosaStan, not Punching Down yet at June 19, 2011 12:19 AM (UqKQV)
Don't forget dear old Dolph Briscoe, our former Gov who vanished for 6 weeks while undergoing electroshock therapy down at UTMB in Galveston while he was governor in 1973.
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 08:49 PM (UZOuI)
Posted by: Brisco_County at June 18, 2011 08:50 PM (XnIt1)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 08:50 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 08:51 PM (x3YFz)
Niiiice.
UTMB Galveston is one of my favorite places. Lots of nursing students to pick up.
Posted by: Brisco_County at June 18, 2011 08:51 PM (XnIt1)
Posted by: AD at June 18, 2011 08:51 PM (G6N+V)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:50 AM (ExKx3)
Ok, Gonzo, I'll break it down sesame street: Obama = bad.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 08:52 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: stace at June 18, 2011 08:52 PM (/vkAW)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 08:53 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: AD at June 19, 2011 12:51 AM (G6N+V)
We were winning until McCain fucked up as usual and suspended his campaign and made a bigger useless asshole of himself than usual.
Fucking idiot and traitor.
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 08:54 PM (UZOuI)
The reason those things are made in China is because they only cost pennies to make and don't require skilled labor.
If you have to pay people $7.25 per hour per Federal law, then you CANNOT knit textiles or make cheap plastic trinkets at a globally competitive prices. That's what's driven our jobs overseas.
Furthermore the access to cheap goods has increased all our standards of living.
Check the "label" of your automobile, CT scanner, or aircraft, and see where those are built. Hint, not in China.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 08:54 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: rabidfox at June 18, 2011 08:54 PM (Rmfxy)
I tried watching his movies.
No dice.
Sorry.
Posted by: YIKES! at June 18, 2011 08:55 PM (6B+2e)
I was absolutely against Huck being the nominee, both Huck AND Romney would have beaten Obama.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 18, 2011 08:55 PM (zx/b9)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 08:56 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 19, 2011 12:47 AM (agD4m)
I wouldn't characterize what I feel as sick exactly. More like disgusted and outright pissed off at the sanctimony they espouse.
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 08:59 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 12:50 AM (ExKx3)
...and I may have gone off on a tangonine tangent, but the end result is that we ran McCain (shitbag) as a presidential candidate. We all saw this loser coming 10 miles away. That fucker should never have had the nomination.
Getting shot the fuck down, AFTER you've killed half your aircraft carrier's deck crew doesn't make you a hero.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 08:59 PM (x3YFz)
I love McCain's service, just like I loved Admiral Stockdale's, but at some point you shove the damned gold watch in their hands and make an appointment for them with a retirement consultant.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 18, 2011 09:00 PM (zx/b9)
Posted by: XBradTC at June 18, 2011 09:00 PM (X0Ona)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 09:01 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 09:01 PM (iGZkF)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 19, 2011 12:53 AM (agD4m)
Thank you. You are much more diplomatic that I was going to be.
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 09:02 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: XBradTC at June 18, 2011 09:04 PM (X0Ona)
(Beedubya)
Oddly, I wouldn't know. I wouldn't recognize his wife or kids (assuming he has some) if they lived next door.
But the man tweets pictures of his black lab, and her puppies, all the time. He tweets photos of her (Rory, the dog) playing with her buddies, hanging out in the governor's office, etc. It' s great!
Posted by: Less at June 18, 2011 09:04 PM (PGXeZ)
I don't have them confused at all.
Its self-educated Nurse Gonzo who thinks Perry mandated Hep B vaccination for TX kids, when in fact that was in place before he took office.
On HPV, the actual merits of that vaccine are debatable, and I'm not going to get into that here. But politically, its a non-issue too. Perry issued an order for vaccination, but let the TX legislature overrule him.
So he's hardly been dogmatic there, and you can't argue that any kid in TX was vaccinated because of him.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 09:04 PM (KNy97)
I'm thinking New Hampshire should go the the back of the line, just behind Iowa, just because.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 18, 2011 09:05 PM (zx/b9)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 09:05 PM (iGZkF)
Come on, for the period of six months prior to the election we were winning for a week or two after the convention and that was before Lehman Brothers went bankrupt and the stock market crash got into full swing.
Here are the poll numbers from 08:
Link
Before then? There's a sea of blue. After that time? There's a sea of blue. After April, only a cluster of about a week or two after the convention and the random poll here and there had him ahead. It was Obama's to lose.
Suspending his campaign was stupid, but you can't blame the election loss on that when, at the same time, you have the stock market collapsing and unemployment heading up (and when the Dems had attacked Bush for his entire second term without his administration giving much of a counter-argument).
Posted by: AD at June 18, 2011 09:06 PM (G6N+V)
www.tinyurl.com. There is no way Romney would uphold cap and trade under GOP pressure, but if he did, I would never vote for another enviro pandering Republican for the rest of my life.
Posted by: Brisco_County at June 18, 2011 09:06 PM (XnIt1)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 01:01 AM (ExKx3)
Reduce corporate taxes and get rid of some of the bullshit regulations and we could be more competitive on those jobs.
You really have no idea what the fuck you're talking about do you?
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 09:06 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: Broccoli from Hell at June 18, 2011 09:07 PM (60TKB)
More like put your argument in cement boots and rolled it off the fantail.
So, we should pay everyone a lot more than $7.25 and hour? Good, because they will need to make a lot more to buy anything nice under the protectionist scheme your arguments require, since it is not like the rest of world will impose matching minimum wage requirements on their manufacturers.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 09:07 PM (agD4m)
>> Getting shot the fuck down, AFTER you've killed half your aircraft carrier's deck crew doesn't make you a hero.
WHOA.. that's a damned lie.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 18, 2011 09:08 PM (Wh0W+)
Obama, that's who.
Then he's going to give them to us. With skittles n' stuff, too.
Posted by: eeejit 52 at June 18, 2011 09:09 PM (XyjRQ)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 01:01 AM (ExKx3)
I hear this argument allot.
So what's considered a living wage in another country?
Posted by: YIKES! at June 18, 2011 09:09 PM (6B+2e)
No dice.
Sorry.
The most accessible one is Smiles of a Summer Night, which is hilarious and insightful. 7th Seal is pretty much about religious disillusionment, which is why I'm partial to it.
Posted by: Brisco_County at June 18, 2011 09:09 PM (XnIt1)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 09:10 PM (iGZkF)
Plus, Tim Horton's is way better than Dunkin' Donuts.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 09:11 PM (XyjRQ)
Normally the party would shove their guy to the front and in front of cameras. McCain pissed of all the wrong Republicans before the 08 election, and they were NOT gonna shove him to the front. He looked weak, small, and useless in those campaign-halting "discussions."
THAT's why he lost.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 18, 2011 09:12 PM (zx/b9)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 19, 2011 01:10 AM (iGZkF)
Yeah, the country that is moving toward conservatism because they finally are starting to realize why they are so fucked up.
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 09:12 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: rabidfox at June 18, 2011 09:13 PM (Rmfxy)
OK I just remembered one.
The Serpent's Egg
Saw it, once, even stayed awake.
Posted by: YIKES! at June 18, 2011 09:14 PM (6B+2e)
Posted by: AD at June 19, 2011 01:06 AM (G6N+V)
You just proved my point.
Look at the red spike up, then fall.
That was the moment McCain blew it with his campaign suspension, the stupid prick.
People in a crisis wanted an experienced leader, started handing it off to him, then he blew it.
Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 09:14 PM (UZOuI)
They had to come around sometime because they were going down the tubes.
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 18, 2011 09:14 PM (iGZkF)
You're welcome back at the big boy table when you've mastered elementary economics. (I'm not holding my breath).
To give you something to think about, since its impossible for the 150 million Chinese laborers who get paid roughly $1/hour (the actual rate) to live, what do you think would happen if all of a sudden by law, they were required to be paid $7.25/hour?
Since you're quite obviously slow, I'll give you a few choices:
a. They all become seven times as rich.
b. They all lose their jobs, when the $1/hour jobs are eliminated or move to some OTHER third world country where people are glad to have them.
c. Ron Paul.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 09:15 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 09:18 PM (agD4m)
Believe you left out the option where the price for everything goes up roughly 7 times, so the workers' effective purchasing power stays constant despite the "raises".
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 18, 2011 09:18 PM (XyjRQ)
>> Getting shot the fuck down, AFTER you've killed half your aircraft carrier's deck crew doesn't make you a hero.
WHOA.. that's a damned lie.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at June 19, 2011 01:08 AM (Wh0W+)
Well, upon further review of "the damned lie" I discovered this:
Whose Plane?McCain has said for years that the missile struck his own plane, and this has been widely accepted. But official documents don't support that. We now judge it more likely that the missile first struck a plane next to McCain's and that his own memory of the event has changed in the years since.
In his 1999 book "Faith of My Fathers," McCain writes:
McCain, 1999 (p. 177): I took my helmet back Â… and shut the planeÂ’s canopy. In the next instant, a Zuni missile struck the belly fuel tank of my plane, tearing it open, igniting two hundred gallons of fuel that spilled onto the deck, and knocking two of my bombs to the deck.
Author Gregory A. Freeman, in his 2002 book about the disaster, "Sailors to the End," accepts that it was McCainÂ’s plane that was hit:
Freeman, 2002 (pp 104-105): McCain felt a huge impact as the Zuni rocket tore through his plane on the right side and exited on the left side, ripping open his fuel tank with four hundred gallons of JP5 jet fuel.
The more recent account by James Caiella, however, comes to a different conclusion. Writing in 2003, Caiella points out, correctly, that the official Navy investigation into the disaster – the Manual of the Judge Advocate General Basic Final Investigative Report Concerning the Fire on Board the USS Forrestal (CVA-59) – concluded that the missile struck plane number 405, the A-4 piloted by Lt. Cdr. Fred White, who was among those killed in the incident. McCain’s plane was number 416, and was next to White’s, one plane forward toward the ship’s bow. Caiella has kindly provided us with official Navy summaries of the investigation documenting this finding. He has also allowed us to reproduce here a portion of a drawing he created, based on the Navy report, to illustrate his article. It shows the positions of the aircraft on deck at the time the fire beg.McCain's aircraft was 416 and could not have fired the rocket. So I humbly retract my accusation. Still think he was never qualified to be president.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 09:19 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 09:21 PM (agD4m)
*don't remind me*
*jams head in oven*
Well, if we can't have Ryan/Christie or Ryan/Rubio, Rick Perry will do just fine. I can vote for him and be happy about it, which is a whole lot more than I can say for any of the others (besides Ryan/Christie/Rubio).
God blessed Texas!!!
Posted by: Beth at June 18, 2011 09:21 PM (5NfIh)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 09:23 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: Beth at June 18, 2011 09:24 PM (5NfIh)
Posted by: Beth at June 19, 2011 01:24 AM (5NfIh)
I've done both. And McCain can suck my ass.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 09:25 PM (x3YFz)
Normally the party would shove their guy to the front and in front of cameras. McCain pissed of all the wrong Republicans before the 08 election, and they were NOT gonna shove him to the front. He looked weak, small, and useless in those campaign-halting "discussions."
THAT's why he lost.
Posted by: K~Bob at June 19, 2011 01:12 AM (zx/b9)
Oh, I agree entirely that he f'ked up by going hard after Obama. In fact, I'd go further. He actually did go hard against him in the first debate--his problem was by that point he'd already screwed the pooch by not attacking until then. When he decided to lighten up in the second debate...forget it, the campaign was already dead, buried, capped with a tombstone, and growing with weeds.
I just don't see how someone can look at a years worth of those poll numbers where, maybe, he's ahead in a fifth of them and consistently ahead for even less of it and conclude that we were fine until he f'ked it up. Just look at the poll numbers. He was consistently ahead back at the end of January and for a brief period after that convention and that was it (and, whether he deserved it or not, he had higher numbers against Obama than other Republicans did).
Add to this that the incumbent President from the same party as him had a job approval rating in the 30s (yes, Bush didn't deserve that, but look at the Rasmussen polls--he had people going to the ballot box to vote Republican in November when the Republican President had an approval rating of 35%--it's amazing, given that, that we weren't just massacred). It sucks, but it would have taken an act of God to get around that fact.
Posted by: AD at June 18, 2011 09:26 PM (G6N+V)
Posted by: Beth at June 18, 2011 09:26 PM (5NfIh)
agh, "by not going hard after Obama..."
Posted by: AD at June 18, 2011 09:27 PM (G6N+V)
Do we really want to pull an effective fiscal conservative out of the House? Do we hate New Jersey that much?
No matter what Perry does, Texas will likely continue to remain conservative.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 09:27 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 09:27 PM (x3YFz)
Actually, I left out the inflation option on purpose, since that's WAY over the head of Nurse Gonzidiot.
In my hypothetical example, where the Chinese workers were being paid in actual dollars, it probably wouldn't be a linear 7:1 type of dilution. If they were suddenly paid in 7x as much paper Yuan, yeah, all the "raise" would instantly be diluted away, and they'd end up right where they were when they started.
Left out of this discussion is the fact that $1/hour in China provides roughly $3/hour parity purchasing power in China, because most goods and services are proportionately cheaper there.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 09:28 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: Beth at June 19, 2011 01:26 AM (5NfIh)
Nope. Never got caught. Maybe you should shut up.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 09:29 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Beth at June 18, 2011 09:30 PM (5NfIh)
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 09:32 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: Beth at June 18, 2011 09:34 PM (5NfIh)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 09:34 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: Karmac at June 18, 2011 09:35 PM (qdI7N)
I don't think there is any question that he was a bad candidate, and that it hurt him. It wasn't just that he alienated a large part of the Republican base, but that he was fairly lackluster overall in terms of message and in terms of challenging Obama.
The question is, could any OTHER Republican candidate have won at that point?
That is, after Bush took 8 years of continuous slagging in the press and never defended himself or his policies, and after the economy and market tanked really badly right prior to elections. Its also after a compliant press literally canonized Obama and point blank refused to do basic vetting of his background (Rezko, Wright, etc).
They might have done better at the polls (or not), but I'm skeptical that Romney, Giuliani, or Huckabee could have pulled it out at that point.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 09:35 PM (KNy97)
For the record: I am not saying McCain didn't f'k during that campaign. I agree. He did.
Posted by: AD at June 18, 2011 09:35 PM (G6N+V)
"For the record: I am not saying McCain didn't f'k up during that campaign. I agree. He did."
Posted by: AD at June 18, 2011 09:37 PM (G6N+V)
I hope you make it out of your mothers basement someday and get a life.
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 01:34 AM (ExKx3)
Well. Look at you.
Once upon a time I thought that my 7-figure salary was cool. I learned better. But you go, girl. You're the king shizzle!
ProTip: announcing your paycheck on a blog = loser. Just saying.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 09:39 PM (x3YFz)
I hate to be the one to break it to you, but you are delusional.
Posted by: Alamo at June 18, 2011 09:39 PM (3KVcx)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 09:42 PM (agD4m)
I hope you make it out of your mothers basement someday and get a life.
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 01:34 AM (ExKx3)
OMG. No you didn't. You know you go to hell for lying like a rug, right?
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 09:43 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 01:40 AM (ExKx3)
reality is that no one likes you. but press on, far be it from me, some random poster, to glean from your posts here that you're an attention whore and will never be satisfied.
Go ye therefore and be useless.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 09:44 PM (x3YFz)
Oooooo. .. you're in the "top 3%" huh?
Wow.
Good for you.
If you're telling the truth, that means you live in household with a combined income of $200,000 or more, making you nearly qualified to be one of Obama's "rich Americans".
Unfortunately, President Obama also earns over $200k per year, and its pretty clear that he doesn't know jack shit about economics either. So I'm afraid your knowledge-by-income argument doesn't hold water.
Care to demonstrate your mastery of economics with an answer to my question?
What do you think would happen if the Chinese gov't instituted a minimum wage of $7.25 per hour?
I'll make it even simpler: Would that be GOOD for China or BAD for China, and why?
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 09:44 PM (KNy97)
There are no posters here named "June." We are all, however, posting our comments on June 19th. Hope that clears up any confusion you may have had. Dunce.
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 09:45 PM (agD4m)
Gonzo after your child-like minimum wage screed you demonstrated amply for everyone here that you have not a fucking clue how an economy works- zip, zero. My sixteen year old daughter would laugh her ass off at you naive assertions.
Really now to insist that you "know quite a lot about economics" is pathetically absurd. Please, for your own sake, go read a fucking book. Try Sowell, or Hayek, or Smith for God's sake, and stop making an ass of yourself.
Posted by: Alamo at June 18, 2011 09:46 PM (3KVcx)
We're jealous, but at the same time horrified at the fact that you've delved so far into the pit of despair that you feel that's necessary to proclaim. Pariah, comes to mind.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 09:48 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 09:48 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 09:48 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 09:49 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 01:48 AM (ExKx3)
Now who's being naive, Kay?
Posted by: Michael Corleone at June 18, 2011 09:50 PM (G6N+V)
Posted by: stace at June 18, 2011 09:51 PM (/vkAW)
And yes, invested well, worked hard and even was able to NOT live in my mothers basement. Still keeping my fingers crossed for ya, you betcha!
Then again, I don't buy trinkets made in China and Indonesia by children and slave labor. Just saying
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 01:48 AM (ExKx3)
how's your cock taste? don't answer that.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 09:51 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: GOTZOTTEDATFREEREPUBLICANDENDEDUPHERE at June 18, 2011 09:52 PM (agD4m)
Ignorance is potentially correctable, but unfortunately, stupidity is not.
As I said above, the first step is admitting that you have a problem.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 09:52 PM (KNy97)
Gonzo, I don't like going into money or school-snob or whatever territory, but since we're already there... There's a chance a majority of people here make less money than you, but it's not f'kin' likely.
Posted by: AD at June 18, 2011 09:53 PM (G6N+V)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 01:48 AM (ExKx3)
But your still cool buying other thing made from these countries regardless of labor cost.
Your starting to sound like palin steele.
Posted by: Evil Job Stealing ATM at June 18, 2011 09:54 PM (6B+2e)
Then again, I don't buy trinkets made in China and Indonesia by children and slave labor. Just saying
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 01:48 AM (ExKx3)
Take your lying leftist blather and stick it. You're not fooling anyone here.
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 09:54 PM (AkdC5)
The best part about you liberal hippie shitbag commie elitist motherfuckers is that you think we're below you. Keep thinking that, sweetheart.
Keep thinking you're big and we're small. Just go on.... you'll get your bright happy smiley wake up day soon enough.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 09:55 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Alamo at June 18, 2011 09:57 PM (3KVcx)
====
Well, I'm "just saying" you're either lying or delusional.
How many "made in China" items are present within 500 feet of where you are sitting right now?
My over/under is 50. I'll give you a teensy weensy hint. . .TAKE A LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE KEYBOARD YOU'RE USING TO TYPE YOUR POSTS.
So hypocrisy, aside, you still haven't answered the question, so I'll pose a different one.
How much "should" Chinese workers be paid, and why?
Again, feel free to demonstrate your fantastical grasp of rudimentary economics with an answer here.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 09:59 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 10:00 PM (agD4m)
You're so cynical.
They could have married well.
Even idiots occasionally win the lottery.
Inheritance works sometimes.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 10:00 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 10:02 PM (ExKx3)
He can't talk right now.
He's in the ER giving a constipated hobo an enema.
Posted by: Nursing Supervisor at June 18, 2011 10:04 PM (6B+2e)
Of course you're right; Ms. Hilton is simply my general stand-in for "grotesquely stupid, yet somehow wealthy"
Posted by: Alamo at June 18, 2011 10:04 PM (3KVcx)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 10:05 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 10:06 PM (agD4m)
4" barrel is a whore to carry. Shoulder? It's summer. Winter time I can carry like 3 shotguns and an m-4, but summer?
Back waistband for my Glock 30 is usually the best I can do. I never leave the house unarmed, and I want my little sexy .44 special... halp?
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 10:06 PM (x3YFz)
Oh, the old "My cock is bigger than yours routine".
OK, I got $1000 that says that my academic credentials are better than yours (ie more degrees, better degrees, etc).
I'll make it $10,000 if you're feeling particularly stupid tonight.
Want to play?
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 10:07 PM (KNy97)
Clearly my success is upsetting to you. It is you that espouses superiority that unfortunately you do not have.
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 02:02 AM (ExKx3)
June doesn't give a shit.
In fact nobody here gives a shit.
Posted by: April at June 18, 2011 10:08 PM (6B+2e)
hahaha... That explains so much. Also ya'll are probably closer to my barely post college age than I thoughtPosted by: John at June 18, 2011 10:08 PM (tdTW2)
Clearly my success is upsetting to you. It is you that espouses superiority that unfortunately you do not have.
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 02:02 AM (ExKx3)
my name's not June you fucking moron. kill yourself with your mac. beat yourself in the head until you bleed out, idiot.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 10:08 PM (x3YFz)
7.5 grains Unique under a 250 g. hard-cast SWC. 850 fps extreme;y accurate.
Posted by: Alamo at June 18, 2011 10:08 PM (3KVcx)
Son of Sam has heard of the .44 special.
I've actually got a box or two in my ammo locker, but its stupid stuff.
Gives you the ballistics of .45ACP with the cost of .44 magnum.
Or the ballistics of .45LC without the cool SA guns.
I think of it mainly as a way to get wusses to try a .44 magnum revolver.
Stuff is OK *if* you can find a snubnose so chambered AND you're willing to buy the ammo.
From a 4" so-chambered gun? Why?
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 10:10 PM (KNy97)
Maybe I'll get to go to the range tomorrow. . .
But probably not.
Posted by: looking closely at June 18, 2011 10:12 PM (KNy97)
Posted by: Nurse Ratchett at June 18, 2011 10:14 PM (agD4m)
Clearly my success is upsetting to you. It is you that espouses superiority that unfortunately you do not have.
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 02:02 AM (ExKx3)
Yeah, you have so many degrees, and are in the top 3% of the country financially and you're an RN. Yep, I believe every word you've written tonight.
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 10:14 PM (AkdC5)
Clearly my success is upsetting to you. It is you that espouses superiority that unfortunately you do not have.
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 02:02 AM (ExKx3)
no. one. cares.
Look: Obama was successful, but he's a full on scam artist/punk. He's like the epitome of what you would want to be. No talent. No skills. Just bullshit.
Got elected president because he was black and could read a teleprompter really well. Well, guess YOU missed that boat, so you're stuck here with us.
And we don't fall for stupid. And you're stupid.
Having said that, you're the best shitbag troll we've had for months, so if you decide to keep on keepin' on... I'd love to abuse you for the next few days or so until you give up and go cry.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 10:15 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 10:20 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 10:21 PM (x3YFz)
Your tactics will usher in the fraud redux and the collapse of this great country.
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 02:20 AM (ExKx3)
Being decisive is a bad thing? Who knew?
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 10:23 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: Beth at June 18, 2011 10:23 PM (5NfIh)
Posted by: thunderb at June 18, 2011 10:24 PM (OnkMW)
Posted by: Alamo at June 18, 2011 10:25 PM (3KVcx)
Posted by: Nurse Ratchett at June 18, 2011 10:26 PM (agD4m)
Again, this is why you will lose the election if this is the best you can do. Republican's need to learn to be inclusive and not rude, violent and decisive. Really no difference in you and the Bots.
Your tactics will usher in the fraud redux and the collapse of this great country.
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 02:20 AM (ExKx3)
...and the point of your post was to accuse me of "thumb sucking" (which I never really did, even as an infant.)?
best you can offer? Oh... there was the mommy's skirt bit.
Protip: Here's how you spot a liberal commie shitbag: they deflect. Always. Never face the facts, but conjure up some fantasy personal attack.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 10:27 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 18, 2011 10:27 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: Beth at June 18, 2011 10:28 PM (5NfIh)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 19, 2011 02:27 AM (agD4m)
My monitor needed that shower! Thanks!
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 10:28 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 18, 2011 10:29 PM (ExKx3)
Posted by: thunderb at June 18, 2011 10:32 PM (OnkMW)
Posted by: GOTTHEZOTTHX at June 18, 2011 10:33 PM (agD4m)
When working staff I could make 90,000 easy with little effort. That was years ago.
Posted by: GONZOTX at June 19, 2011 02:29 AM (ExKx3)
How do you breathe when you are so full of shit? You can't even fucking spell. Anesthetics? WTF is that?
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 10:33 PM (AkdC5)
really? Gonzo.
I have a POW/MIA flag that flies when I'm not flying my American flag or my Gadsden flag outside my house.
What fucking flag do you fly, sweetheart? COEXIST? or is that just the bumper sticker on your prius?
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 10:33 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Alamo at June 18, 2011 10:33 PM (3KVcx)
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 10:35 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: Billy Jeff at June 18, 2011 10:35 PM (3KVcx)
Posted by: GOTTHEZOTTHX at June 18, 2011 10:37 PM (agD4m)
Posted by: Steph at June 19, 2011 02:35 AM (AkdC5)
Actually, he did. It just may take more time in some cases.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 10:39 PM (x3YFz)
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 10:40 PM (AkdC5)
Posted by: twiceblessedmom at June 18, 2011 10:44 PM (HjxoE)
Posted by: The Cad at June 18, 2011 10:48 PM (agD4m)
never post here again.
Kinda here's the rub: If you're going to troll on AoS we have some mimunum standards:
At least bring the funneh. You really didn't even come close to bringing the funny. FAIL
Check your facts: You didn't offer a single fact. FAIL
Flail about, uselessly: You kinda did that, but not worth mentioning.
Dude. here's a hint: If you're going to troll here, bring your
"A" game. Not your "D" game. You were too easy. Ramp it up some. Or... Don't ever come back, either way I'm good, since you're a pussy.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 10:49 PM (x3YFz)
[Sniffs the air}
WhoooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOWheeee! Sumbody's been talking out they ass!
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 19, 2011 02:55 AM (L3Wmw)
That's probably your cat.
Posted by: tangonine at June 18, 2011 10:57 PM (x3YFz)
What happened? Surely gonzo the idiot didn't slink off.
Damn, I was in the mood to kick it while it was down.
Posted by: Steph at June 18, 2011 11:01 PM (AkdC5)
That's probably your cat.
Posted by: tangonine at June 19, 2011 02:57 AM (x3YFz)
T'was a reference to Gonzo's air biscuits. Sorry for not making it clear.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 18, 2011 11:08 PM (L3Wmw)
Posted by: John Connor at June 19, 2011 01:20 AM (60TKB)
Posted by: John Connor at June 19, 2011 05:20 AM (60TKB)
Oh fcuk!
Posted by: Robert at June 19, 2011 01:21 AM (4ixH5)
Posted by: John Connor at June 19, 2011 01:33 AM (60TKB)
"Our loudest opponents on the left are never going to like us, so let's stop trying to curry favor with them."
I don't think he's going to conjure up Bush comparisons with an attitude like that. With that line, he's positioning himself as an anti-Bush, anti-McCain, anti-Coburn Republican. Hope he means it, because if we nominate one more New Toner, even if he stumbles into the White House somehow, the ultimate result will only be more disaster for the country.
Posted by: Joe Cor at June 19, 2011 03:16 AM (8VzRB)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 19, 2011 04:19 AM (kUaEF)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 19, 2011 04:21 AM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 19, 2011 04:41 AM (iGZkF)
Posted by: Mr. Dave at June 19, 2011 05:07 AM (L7SvE)
Gonzass doesn't like decisiveness because she prefers the all-inclusive paralysis that Dems bring to problem solving.
Posted by: Cooter at June 19, 2011 05:08 AM (O924f)
Posted by: Sandy Salt at June 19, 2011 05:21 AM (iGZkF)
Posted by: Ken at June 19, 2011 06:15 AM (JYADs)
Posted by: PR at June 19, 2011 07:03 AM (EF7Ps)
Posted by: Slappy at June 19, 2011 07:48 AM (5wIW7)
Posted by: Steph at June 19, 2011 12:19 AM (AkdC5)
I didn't bring anything here. Midol shortage where you're at?
Jesus H., I was making an observation about the local political atmosphere and you turn it into something else.
Good grief...how typical.
Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at June 19, 2011 07:56 AM (uO1x1)
Sierra Mist or Sprite?
Posted by: John King at June 19, 2011 08:08 AM (/Wu7S)
OMG I cant believe you republicans are going to lose this one no matter that idiot in the white house does.
The end is nigh!
On a side note, Grats to Speaker Bonehead for giving us the worst possible optics imaginable and stupidly agreeing to a golf summit taking GOLFBAMA criticism off the table.
Fuckin morons on the left, on the right, everywhere .
Posted by: Jeremiah Gosh Darn Amerikkka at June 19, 2011 08:40 AM (bs3JI)
For all of you morons inhaling deeply of the Rick Perry testicle musk --
Perry likes high speed rail, NTTAWWT
Perry has been rumored to be gay, NTTAWWT, by the lefty attack machine here in Texas.
Perry pissed off a lot of landowners here in Texas with his grandiose Trans Texas Corridor plan.
Posted by: Sphynx at June 19, 2011 09:56 AM (fEmj2)
Besides somebody has gotta do something about the damned EPA.
nuff said except...Gig Em' Aggies!
Posted by: workingclass artist at June 19, 2011 08:14 PM (nD95B)
Posted by: MR.ED at June 20, 2011 10:11 AM (RI2f4)
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Posted by: TexasJew at June 18, 2011 06:22 PM (UZOuI)