1 He's still my guy.  He's got the experience and the conservative values that I'm after for the most part.

2 I saw my first Perry commercial this morning here in SC. He is not done.

3 It is time to get off these phony debates and get on with campaigning.

4 OMG why why do he do this? Not Letterman *facepalm*.

5

He's trying to be pop culturally relevant to Megan McCain's generation Drew. You just don't get it do you?

I'm guessing you don't have tatoos, biker and gay friends either.

6 Did they subtitle him because Texan is a foreign language in NYC?

7 "I'm not a big fan of presidential candidates trying to be pop culture stars but it's the world we live in." Just shows what a big poopyhead *you* are.

8

He should begin to open carry at the debates. I think that would really help him in the Republican primary.

If he's going to go down, he might as well go down in style.

9 Sigh. Try to imagine Lincoln doing the mid-18th century equivalent of a talk show. But, like you said, it's the nature of the beast these days. (He's pretty smooth with a teleprompter, but then again so is Barky.0

10 Not enough sleep last night, so add an "i" to my nic.

11 Not as painful as I expected and Letterman's writers actually wrote a few funny ones for a change.

12 Once and Aggie. Always an Aggie.

It's part of the plan.

13 Thanks you! Thank you! Hey how about that Jefferson Davis? Is that a schmendrick or what? Tip your negro servant! Get it?

14 Coulter goes after Axelrod for the Cain smears: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47438

15 I don't get it why go on Letterman I mean he is irrelevant. You raise Letterman's credibility then he makes you look like a doofus. Fail.

16 Exactly Vic.  Let's stop talking about it and do something about it.  I'm going to see if Perry has an office here in central Florida where I can volunteer.  Amazingly we are coming down to the wire.  Only have until January 31 to let people know about his record and his new proposals.  How can people look at what he's proposed and just brush that off?  I have no problem getting behind a drill here, drill now campaign. 

17 I had thought when he fluttered again at the debate while knowing He is a very capable governor, and had read that He does better in this type of venue  that He should do something as this. It let's people get to Know him where He stands on issues . I don't think He can avoid  debates as much as I'd like . He did Improve until that moment. Ha.
Anyway I think this is a good idea. we'll see.
anyway good luck to all the contenders bring the real issues to the table, and the solutions to the problems we face.
abo

18 He was sensational on Greta last night.

19

 >>>don't get it why go on Letterman I mean he is irrelevant. You raise Letterman's credibility then he makes you look like a doofus. Fail.

 

There are still a lot of people who don't have cable and therefore watch Letterman and Leno. It's the reason that many nightly news programs still get 20 million viewers(between the big three networks). 

There was a three year period where I only had an antenna. I ended up watching a lot of Leno and those PBS shows where they go to European cities and let your live vicariously through their travels.

20 Sock it to...me?

21 Don't worry, the Romney Clowns will be here soon and the flame wars will start. Too many of those lately. Even getting them on the ONT now.

22 goldie hawn?

23 There was a three year period where I only had an antenna.

I grew up with only 2 channels. I now have well over 100. It was better in the 50s with only two.

24

Perry did well on every single TV show he appeared on. His campaign should switch over to that formula. It will help him stay relevant and it will help him stay loose. I think the more he speaks on tv and publically, the more comfortable he will be in debates.

25 Romney sucks and will never ever be President.

26 I've never enjoyed Presidential candidates behaving like clowns.

27 Perry's website yesterday had the line "What part of the government would you like to forget?"

28 I'm a Perry supporter too, I plan to vote for him in the Iowa caucuses. These debates are silly and, let's face it, Obama will pull a Carter and avoid most, if not all, of them.

But we also need somebody who can sell conservatism.  It isn't enough, in this day and age, simply to implement good policies, you have to make a convincing case.  Perry seems able to do that in a prepared speech, but there are times when you have to be spontaneous as well.

I do think he's overcoached and now he has nothing to lose.  Time to let loose.

Another thing, if Perry happens to get the nomination, this will serve him well.  This is a much better meme than the one the media was searching for and would have settled on after "racist rock".  Good natured, bumbling goofball is the better of the two liberal memes for conservative politicians.

29

Perry is still back in the polls. But meh - whatever.

VDH vid well worth your time.

30

I don't think this will hurt him much. Realistically, he can only move up in the polls. And I agree with the great and wonderful Oz at #1, he's the only one who shares my values.

And, off to take B'Gal to get some bloodwork drawn and then to breakfast. Bacon will be consumed. Catch y'all on the Romney...

_{(Romney = flip flop for you young'uns who missed the CB radio era)}

31 24

Perry did well on every single TV show he appeared on. His campaign should switch over to that formula. It will help him stay relevant and it will help him stay loose. I think the more he speaks on tv and publically, the more comfortable he will be in debates.

Posted by: Ben at November 11, 2011 09:43 AM (wuv1c)

This is what I don't get: He's great in interviews and has all of the stock answers that he should have in debates.

32 I saw a Perry commercial here this a.m. (Michigan), and it was good. Going to all the shows is good. Lots of people do not watch the debates, but they see the commercials, and they will see him on various shows. Yesterday the media inadverdently did him a huge favor by blanketing the TV with his gaffe. It had the effect of making him look cute, human and sympathetic. He will recover,much to the chagrin of the likes of Karl Rove and Chris Wallace types. I think even they are beginning to realize that nominating Romney will be suicide for the RNC. The Tea Party movement will rebel if they do nominate him, and the years before the next election will be spent forming a new party. Too many people in the RNC like the status quo. Part of the problem with Romney is that the congress is filled with "Repubs" just as squishy as he is.

33

 Perry seems able to do that in a prepared speech, but there are times when you have to be spontaneous as well.

You realize you are contradicting yourself here amishdude?

This is what I don't get: He's great in interviews and has all of the stock answers that he should have in debates.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 11, 2011 09:49 AM (T0NGe)

He cannot know everything the interviewers are going to ask and he's not reading a prepared speech.  For whatever reason it just seems to be the debates.

34 This is what I don't get: He's great in interviews and has all of the stock answers that he should have in debates. I think it must be really hard to "get in the flow" of communicating effectively in a debate.

35 When you consider how many uninformed voters are out there, it only makes sense that this sort of thing helps Perry. Name recognition is the key at this point, and all the "smart" commentators talking about how he's done are so lost up their own backsides, it's more embarrassing than anything he's said in any of these so-called debates.

36 He's still my guy as well. Really the only thing I liked about Cain was his business experience and positive campaign. He lost that second part when the going got tough. I don't trust mittens or Newt to make the right call when it counts and the polls are against us.

37 You realize you are contradicting yourself here amishdude?

No.  As president, you often make speeches, but sometimes things come up, press conferences and the like.

38 #2 - I just wanted to take the heat off my friend Herman Cain.

loved that one.. I saw this last night.. thought he did pretty well.

This was a good strategy.. I think he probably connected with a lot of people (inadvertently of course) with his brain freeze and how he's handled it.

39

No. As president, you often make speeches, but sometimes things come up, press conferences and the like.

Posted by: AmishDude at November 11, 2011 09:55 AM (T0NGe)

Right and you just said he does well in interviews, where you can't know everything that is going to get asked.

40 I think it must be really hard to "get in the flow" of communicating effectively in a debate.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 11, 2011 09:52 AM (SB0V2)

That must be it.  Maybe he's paying too much attention to the others.

He hasn't learned the professor trick of being able to have a decent-sounding answer about everything.

41 "I'm not dead yet!  I think I'll go dancing." - Rick Perry Campaign 2012

42

Salon has already pointed this out, but it's worth bringing up here: Bill Clinton saved his career many years ago by appearing on David Letterman's show the day after the 1988 Democratic Convention, when Clinton delivered one of the longest and dullest speeches ever made by an American politician. Considered an up-and-comer at the time, Clinton's sheer coma-inducing, eye-glazing disaster of a speech had people writing him off but Clinton--like Perry--is a personable, charming guy. Clinton chatted up Letterman, played saxophone with Paul and the band, and--before the night was out--completely won over the audience.

It's a cliche, really, but no less true: if Perry stays true to who and what he is, he'll start moving up again in the polls. The guy excels at retail politicking in a way few of his opponents can match, for one thing. Perry also needs to buy some national air time and give a speech that shows he can effectively communicate the conservative message. If he can persuade voters these debates are one-offs and give a bigger picture view of his stengths, Perry still has a shot.

43 So if I read this right ... ... there is no viable GOP candidate? The crazy-wannabe crowd not withstanding, do we have anyone who can actually win an election? Against a pathetic excuse for a president? No? Really? /disgusted Romney is the best foot we can put forward, and I don't like it. Cain is a timebomb. Newt is ... well ... Newt. Perry is an easy target for libs. We need to get the current SCOAMF out. This is job 1. Ideological purity be damned. If we fuck up job 1 because some group or the other didn't get one rubbed out by some other group, many of us are going to be mighty pissed. Stop holding out hope for Perry. His 15 minutes were up 10 minutes ago. Cain's were up 5 minutes ago. I am not a Romney supporter. I really wanted Palin, and then I wanted to like Cain. Palin ain't running, and Cain just pretty much killed his own campaign. I like Romney looks like the best we've got. Yeah, it sucks, but thats life. Deal with it. Or hand the SCOAMF another 4 years. Its one or the other.

44 He's dead, Jim.

45 42. Troyriser - I still remember that DNC speech! OMG you guys - it was the biggest snoozefest ever. It was painful! Clinton also did a lot of going around and gladhanding, speaking with people literally just on the street. I used to see him all the time during his first campaign (in Philly). He was extremely personable. Debating is a thing. But it's not the only thing. Standing at a podium with a bunch of other competitors - and not to mention, Mittens eying you all smarmy - that has got to be weird.

46 you know boxing gloves and kevlar suits , perhaps helmest in pretty or a handsome design really should be available at the entrance to ace's.

47 Romney looks like the best we've got. Yeah, it sucks, but thats life. Deal with it. Or hand the SCOAMF another 4 years. Its one or the other. Posted by: John Galt at November 11, 2011 09:58 AM

I don't believe I'll be deeming McCain Romney "the only man who can beat Hillary Obama" just yet. 

48 ^_Perry!

49 9 Sigh. Try to imagine Lincoln doing the mid-18th century equivalent of a talk show. But, like you said, it's the nature of the beast these days. (He's pretty smooth with a teleprompter, but then again so is Barky.0

Posted by: joncell at November 11, 2011 09:29 AM (RD7QR)

Guarantee you every one of our prior presidents would have been on any TV show they could to win if it would have been around. 'Cause the did pretty much the same back in their day.

50 So what that Perry had brainlock during next-to-useless jaw-jabbering?  When real, live, fight or flee danger suddenly and unexpectedly confronted him, he smoothly drew out his Ruger .380 and took care of business.

51 John Galt (if that is your real name), if you're going for Romney, that's fine. Chances are he's going to win, but I honestly don't think Obama is going to be reelected no matter who his opponent is. At this point, I don't understand why anyone would vote based on who they think has the best shot at beating him. If you like Romney best though, hey that's your right.

52 It's one thing to stick up for a candidate... it's another thing to be delusional. Perry is a fucking embarrassment to the Republican party. He should go back to the democretins where he belongs.

53 Maybe seeing how manly-ly hot he is might help.

54 OT but is anyone else having problems with the front page in a continual load loop? 

It started yesterday....I blame rdbrewer....

55 Romney looks like the best we've got. Yeah, it sucks, but thats life. Deal with it. Or hand the SCOAMF another 4 years. Its one or the other. Posted by: John Galt at November 11, 2011 09:58 AM

If it happens that way -- and I suppose it will, because Republicans have turned into cowards who bleat out whatever answers Their Betters among the punditry demand -- I'll vote for The Mutt.

If people wise up, and stop confusing the presidency with an American Idol winner, we might wind up with someone who will actually do the country some good, not just serve as a place-holder for the next compromise candidate.

In short, screw The Mutt with a bark-covered log. This "Mutt is inevitable" shit has got to stop.

56

Guarantee you every one of our prior presidents would have been on any TV show they could to win if it would have been around. 'Cause the did pretty much the same back in their day.

Posted by: jimmuy at November 11, 2011 10:04 AM (pXUfx)

Yeah, as candidates.  And really I don't care about the candidates going on these shows and trying to connect with people.  But the SCOAMF going on and doing them as president I find insulting to the office.

57
Perry is a fucking embarrassment to the Republican party. He should go back to the democretins where he belongs.

Posted by: 1/1027th of a Janitor at November 11, 2011 10:05 AM (tazG1)

in what way? the speech patterns? lack of debate skills?

or that his state is in pretty good shape comparatively? in This recession ? that people still want to flee many states and go to texas where surviving the econmic woes is possible?

58 Stewart on the debate.  Interesting to see how the libs/dems view the republican field.

59 Posted by: 1/1027th of a Janitor
.......
Thanks for trolling...  now, get back to Daily Kooks!

60 Tami, i have had issues since last week-end i even called my internet provider thinking it was an issue with them.
i use firefox  maybe that too?

61 Half the jobs I created or saved since taking office happened in Texas, in SPITE of Rick Perry.

62 61 - I beg to differ....

63

Perry is a fucking embarrassment to the Republican party. He should go back to the democretins where he belongs.

Posted by: 1/1027th of a Janitor at November 11, 2011 10:05 AM (tazG1)

Yeah Rick Perry should go back to the democrats!  What with his support for government run health care, his accusing other candidate of wanting to kill grandma by wanting to alter social security, and implying that you hate children by not putting government in charge of healthcare.  He definitely belongs with the democrats.

64 62 - Go to hell.

65 chique d'afrique
yeah this was a fun moment, now He needs venues where He is serious , with a touch of humor really addressing our issues and solutions.

66 The Clown Car doesn't make trips to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

67 64 - YOU!

68 And to all those who dislike Perry's position on illegal Mexicans, please consider the possibility that he's the most likely to take on this issue as President, in a reasonable and responsible way. Do you really think Cain knows anything about how to handle this issue? Does Romney care at all? The impression Perry gives is that he cares about this issue, whether his past positions as Governor are in sync with your opinions or not, he is trying to find solutions.

69 Romney sucks and will never ever be President.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at November 11, 2011 09:44 AM (NMr0B)

Thank you for the trenchant analysis. 

Now go home and get your fucking shinebox make some pancakes.

70 Damn, flaming my own sock puppet. Maybe I should do some work....

71 I wonder how many Perrykrishna's really have the stones to stay home on election day if Romney gets the nomination?

72

or that his state is in pretty good shape comparatively? in This recession ? that people still want to flee many states and go to texas where surviving the econmic woes is possible?

Posted by: willow at November 11, 2011 10:07 AM (h+qn

Yeah, but whats happening in Texas is in SPITE of Perry.

73 66 The Clown Car doesn't make trips to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Correction  The Republican Clown Car doesn't make trips to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

74 Tami, i have had issues since last week-end i even called my internet provider thinking it was an issue with them.
i use firefox  maybe that too?

Posted by: willow at November 11, 2011 10:09 AM (h+qn

For me it just started yesterday.  Seems to happen often when rdbrewer posts a video.  And the message at the bottom left says 'waiting for www.youtube.com'.

75 Debates just aren't his thing. I know I'm really going out on a limb there by saying that.

They should bring in a sports psychologist or hypnotist to clear his head. I'm serious. There's some hard-wiring there just does.not.compute in that format. "Drunken" NH episodes aside, he's actually really good in interviews and on the stump.

But people won't see those -- and it's not their responsibility to seek that information out. It's on him to do that and the burden is on him to make sure he can clearly convey the voice of conservatism.

76 Fuck you, Jerry. All you got is calling people trolls? Shows the vacuousness of your candidate and your vacuous grasp of politics.

77 Does Romney care at all? 

Posted by: BurtTC at November 11, 2011 10:12 AM (Gc/Qi)

we see what you did there....

78 14 Coulter goes after Axelrod for the Cain smears:

http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=47438

Posted by: 1/1027th of a Janitor at November 11, 2011 09:32 AM (tazG1)

Looks like your horse Coulter is giving Jen Rubin a run for the money on who can most publicly tongue bathe their crush.

Why can't you Cultists for St. Cain keep your stories straight? Oh, wait: That's right, not even St. Cain is sure who to blame. I mean, is it racism, or was it Perry's fault, or the Politico, or wait! it's Axelrod now!

79

66The Clown Car doesn't make trips to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
----

The elephants left town... how bizzare, how bizzare...

80 Not saying you have to love Romney, but those who stay home when Romney gets the nomination--and he will--are as bad as Obama; actually worse.

81 "But the SCOAMF going on and doing them as president I find insulting to the office."

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2011 10:06 AM (GULKT)

Agree 100%

82

Yeah, but whats happening in Texas is in SPITE of Perry.

Posted by: Romneybot Mk1mod2 at November 11, 2011 10:13 AM (FIDMq)

FIFY.  (am I really debating the Mk1mod2 bot?  awesome!!11!,  Like playing tic-tac-toe against BigBlue)

83 If Perry wanted to redeem himself with conservatives, he'd have hit that bastard (letterdouche) so hard he would have fallen out in the floor and then jumped up and kicked in his ribs. Now THAT would have been entertainment.

84 All you got is calling people trolls? Shows the vacuousness of your candidate and your vacuous grasp of politics.

Lets not pretend that the left has a monopoly on stupid, moronic voters.  Conservatives have our fair share too.

85

Perry was a Democrat until it became popular not to be one.

Lot's of people point to Reagan, but he became a Republican when it was actually unpopular to do so. Perry became a Republican in 1989 for fucks sake, after eight years of Reagan had come and gone.

86 Texas has the weakest Governor of any state (by design). The executive is divied up between something like 8 or 9 different positions. The separately LT Gov probably has more power.

Hell, the Texas Gov doesn't even have to sign bills into law.

If you ever wonder why Perry is never responsible for anything bad in Texas, it's because he is not. Conversely, he's not responsible for anything good either.

87 Not saying Romney has to love me, but when he runs away from my values and panders to the left while demanding the GOP nomination he is as bad as Obama; actually worse. 

88 aw hell...
Lacey was right we really need a flame war.

89 Posted by: ParisParamus at November 11, 2011 10:15 AM (ddInK)

The stupidity of staying home -- in reality denying our democratic principles -- makes me agree with a squishy RINO bet-wetting mincing New Yorker like ParisParamus.

And I hate that!

90 Is it me or is Letterman just phoning it in nowadays?

91 i'll start , Palin really needs to step back in and kick all these non conservatives to the curb!

92

80Not saying you have to love Romney, but those who stay home when Romney gets the nomination--and he will--are as bad as Obama; actually worse.
----

On staying home.

Would that equal one or two votes for SCOAMF?

93 I thought the Letterman* bit was excellent. Self-deprecating humor makes him seem more down-to-earth and likable.

Yes, provided it's used to flesh-out an otherwise, competent, smart-seeming candidate....

94

If people wise up, and stop confusing the presidency with an American Idol winner,

Which they won't....how could they?

Look around.

Idiots abound.

95 Don't remember saying anything about staying home.  Did I say that?  I don't think I said that.

96 87 Texas has the weakest Governor of any state (by design). The executive is divied up between something like 8 or 9 different positions. The separately LT Gov probably has more power.

Hell, the Texas Gov doesn't even have to sign bills into law.

If you ever wonder why Perry is never responsible for anything bad in Texas, it's because he is not. Conversely, he's not responsible for anything good either.

Posted by: Romney Voter at November 11, 2011 10:17 AM (7MFxV)

Says someone who is voting for the candidate that is most likely to have his supporters act like he is as pure as the wind driven snow and how everything shitty he's done, is a lie, or because he had to work with democrats, or the democrats fault and not his. 

Democrats aren't the only ones with a messiah complex.  But then again Romney isn't that far removed from being a democrat anyways.

97 76 Fuck you, Jerry.

All you got is calling people trolls? Shows the vacuousness of your candidate and your vacuous grasp of politics.

Posted by: 1/1027th of a Janitor at November 11, 2011 10:14 AM (tazG1)

Yeah, because answering every question 9-9-9 or "I agree with Newt" shows depth and grasp.

Onward, St. Cain! Slay the dragons of unbelievers amongst the GOP. Purify our party with True Conservatives!

98 OT but is anyone else having problems with the front page in a continual load loop?

I'm getting it, too. Yesterday somebody said it was something in the sidebar.

99 'Don't worry, the Romney Clowns will be here soon and the flame wars will start. Too many of those lately. Even getting them on the ONT now. '. Vic at November .... Do you have any self awareness at all?

100
Correction  The Republican Clown Car doesn't make trips to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Posted by: ParisParamus at November 11, 2011 10:13 AM (ddInK)

Well, Ricardo Perry is the driver. He must have forgotten the address.

101 After 4 more years of disaster with Obama or Romney - people will be saying "Maybe Rick Perry would have done better?" You Think? Let's not wait 4 more years to find out..... With Obama - 2016 - Stock Market around 2500 With Romney - 2016 - Stock Market around 3500 With Perry - 2016 - Stock Market around 22,000 You make the choice

102

Would that equal one or two votes for SCOAMF?

It would equal 1/2 vote.  The half you added to an Obama voter, and the half you didn't give to Romney.

103  I wonder how many Perrykrishna's really have the stones to stay home on election day if Romney gets the nomination?

Posted by: ButWhatDoIKnow at November 11, 2011 10:13 AM (BvTwT)

If Romney gets the nod, I'll arrange with my neighbor to borrow his wheelbarrow to cart my stones down to the polling place.  Good thing, too, that the place has double doors in front, else I'd never squeeze inside.

104 92 Is it me or is Letterman just phoning it in nowadays?

Has been for many years.  In the old days, he would throw things off a high building and watch them smash.  I'd watch his show if he would do that to himself. 

105 Perry is a idiot.
romney is a used car salesman.
bachman well, a pretty bimbo head,
er, huntsman a dem shill.
uh, santorum, a bible thumper!
ron paul, kill the fed!

flame war!

106 *waits for new thread*

107 I hope none of the people criticizing Perry for once being a democrat over 20 years ago (unforgivable! even after a pretty conservative record for 3 terms) are supporting Romney, because that would be heavily ironic. No one is allowed to change his/her mind, right? Anyway, I think Perry should not overdo it with this strategy lest he start looking unserious.

108 oh Cain smiles at females too much!

109 Is his behavior because of back pain or is it not?  That all of his worst moments came in the middle/end of debates would tell me probably.  But do any of his supporters no for sure if that's what is going on?

I fractured my spine and was in rehab with traction for years... I get how excruciating psychically and mentally exhausting it can be.  When the pain just throbs constantly the effect on the brain can be like having an alarm clock going off next to your ear for hours at a time.  Its annoying at first but then it just wears you down to wear you are too tired to care about anything but getting the pain to stop.

Anyway, if backpain is the issue get the guy a barstool!  Maybe to some people it would look like a weakness (hard to imagine worse then how it looks now)  And their would probably be a net positive anyway because sooo many Americans suffer from something like it. 

110 87 Texas has the weakest Governor of any state (by design). The executive is divied up between something like 8 or 9 different positions. The separately LT Gov probably has more power.

Hell, the Texas Gov doesn't even have to sign bills into law.

If you ever wonder why Perry is never responsible for anything bad in Texas, it's because he is not. Conversely, he's not responsible for anything good either.

Posted by: Romney Voter at November 11, 2011 10:17 AM (7MFxV)

Wait! According to fellow Romneybot, JackStraw, Perry is corrupt and such on account of his consolidating and strengthening the governor's office to an extent never before seen. Making it far more powerful than it has ever been.

111 I agree chique.  Now that he has gotten some air time he needs to make the most of it and let people know what his plans are about.  It's time to get down to business.

112 71 I wonder how many Perrykrishna's really have the stones to stay home on election day if Romney gets the nomination?

Posted by: ButWhatDoIKnow at November 11, 2011 10:13 AM (BvTwT)

I won't stay home. I like my Congresswoman, state senator, and hopefully there will be a decent third party candidate to vote for at the top of the ticket.

113 I'll take Romney over JEPOS. I won't even hold my nose. We need to get the Senate back. Because the Republicans will fix everything.

114 stupid auto complete/lazy typer

psychically = Physically

115 Anybody but(in descending order):
1)Obama
2)Barky
3)SCOAMF
3)Cain
4)Mittens

116 #109 you know who convinced Perry to change his mind ? Talk about ironic.

117

Wait! According to fellow Romneybot, JackStraw, Perry is corrupt and such on account of his consolidating and strengthening the governor's office to an extent never before seen. Making it far more powerful than it has ever been.

Posted by: jimmuy at November 11, 2011 10:25 AM (pXUfx)

At least on the even days.  On the odd days he's talking about how Perry really has no power in Texas.  Flip Flopping around just like his candidate.

118 Real conservatives don't beg Letterman for air time.  It's time to move on, Perryistas.

119 117 I'll take Romney over JEPOS. I won't even hold my nose. We need to get the Senate back. Because the Republicans will fix everything.

Posted by: USS Diversity at November 11, 2011 10:25 AM (t7IDU)

Now thats sarcasm.

120 Romney fans should suck some serious ass now if they want help later.

They don't get they really do themselves no favors on the blogs because no conservative worth their salt wants to vote for their liberal candidate.

121 @78 Is it too much for you to grasp that someone who doesn't support Cain can still see that he was smeared? Not everyone treats politics like a man-crush, pal.

122 for g-ds sake we really need to win

123 @76

heh

124 and with someone that will have the courage  to do what's needed.

125 ^{* Do you think Letterman could have made his disdain any more obvious?}

Posted by: General Jack D. Ripper at November 11, 2011 10:17 AM (IhHdM)

 

Unpossible.  He kept looking down and away from Perry and had forced, tight smiles.  Bastard.

126 I recall Bush supporters in Texas being extremely frustrated because when he visit down there and wasn't trying to sound "presidential" he actually came across as quite fluent and very intellectually able and curious.

He would tense up and worry about slang or accent and turn into a bumbling fools as any normal person would.

127 No according to JackStraw, Perry has used what power he does have as governor to do things you Perry advocates would be screaming to high he'll if it were anyone else. Since it's Perry you conveniently overlook it.

128 I wonder how many Perrykrishna's really have the stones to stay home on election day if Romney gets the nomination? Yeah, I wonder this too. Sadly, I think they would rather have their ideological purity than get the SCOAMF out. John Galt (if that is your real name), if you're going for Romney, that's fine. Chances are he's going to win, but I honestly don't think Obama is going to be reelected no matter who his opponent is. At this point, I don't understand why anyone would vote based on who they think has the best shot at beating him. If you like Romney best though, hey that's your right. ... if you don't know whom John Galt is, I have severe doubts as to your conservative credentials. http://bit.ly/qyFIa Why would we put our best foot forward? Is the mission to get SCOAMF out or get an ideologically pure as the driven snow person in? One of these will result in mission success, one will result in an abject mission failure. And no, I think Romney sucks. He just sucks less than the alternatives with respect to completing the mission. Take the white house first, the senate and the house, and then, next cycle, go for the ideological purity. When you have control and a track record to work with. Go for it now and lose. If Perry gets the nod, I'll vote for him. Cain too. Newt too. None of these are viable, and we know damned well that none of them has a snowballs chance in hell of beating SCOAMF. So why the fuck would we set ourselves up to lose? I want us to win, and if this means compromising on my preferred candidate (whom isnt even running) to get someone who can win against SCOAMF, then damned straight I will do that. If calling out people who are pining for the ideological fjords pisses them off, then so be it. We can't afford 4 more years of SCOAMF. And this means we have hard choices to make. None of them pleasant.

129

>>>>No one is allowed to change his/her mind, right?

WSJ has a good article on Romney. It pinpoints the year when he became a conservative of convenience. That year is 2005.

 

Prior to that he had been a liberal of convenience.  I don't even really know what Romney believes, if he believes anything. He doesn't appear to be very religious, he's taken both sides on every social issue, and both sides on almost every major domestic issue whether it be education of climate change.

 

130 126 @78

Is it too much for you to grasp that someone who doesn't support Cain can still see that he was smeared?

Not everyone treats politics like a man-crush, pal.

Posted by: 1/1027th of a Janitor at November 11, 2011 10:28 AM (tazG1)

Except Coulter. Who at first was sure this was due to racism. But now that Cain has changed who to blame (again, for the 3rd, 4th, 5th time), she has fallen right into line and is now blaming Axelrod.

131

The issue with Perry is the issue with most politicians.

And that despite coming from Texas, where the historical political culture and its present laws prevent inordinate state meddling, Perry has no real clue whyh is state is doing better than others. IOW, absent a popularized version of Hayek on the stage, Conservatism is unlikely to find its perfect champion. Cain seems almost willfully unprepared and Sowell is too old to run.

Reagan came the closest, and Newt could do it absent his personal issues, but even Reagan agreed to a 3-to-1 spending vs. taxes agreement with Congress where the spending reductions never materialized.

So we are left, I think, with a business technocrat in Romney who at least has the experience in both private and public forums to slow spending and generate fundamental discussions on federal over reach that are acceptable to current populist opinion.

Conservatives must acknowledge that the public in general does not share the opinion that we are in crisis mode yet, which requires immediate abandonment of whole swaths of government departments. That may come later as federal contraction yields no adverse effects, but right now Romney is acceptable because he is positioning himself as the moderate or populist answer. In many ways, he is right. To be elected, you must be the right leader at the right time.

132 Perry is a fucking embarrassment to the Republican party. He should go back to the democretins where he belongs.

This is an asinine statement.  Have you ever listened to Perry apart from the debates?  Apparently not, as he is neither an embarrassment or a "democretin where he belongs."  Aside from Bachmann, he's about the most conservative candidate running.  And he has my vote.

133 ya'll tawk funny, and your momma wears ugly slippers.

134 I think the best thing that Mitt and his supporters can do is twist the knife in the people he'll need to volunteer next year.

135 In fairness, while never voting republican previous to 2010, and generally disliking the party and culture and certainly not yet knowing who John Galt was... even then, I was still always relieved when republicans won the white house.

136 I think the best thing that Mitt and his supporters can do is twist the knife in the people he'll need to volunteer next year.

He's not getting volunteers. I don't think they understand this. It was bad enough with McCain. He's ten times worse.

137

sickinmass

 

he has the same mannerisms.........reminds me of the great one too

138 140 I think the best thing that Mitt and his supporters can do is twist the knife in the people he'll need to volunteer next year.

Posted by: Ben at November 11, 2011 10:34 AM (wuv1c)

They are still really butthurt that, in August, Perry threatened the inevitability of their messiah.

139 Hell, the Texas Gov doesn't even have to sign bills into law.


Yep, just like every other fucking state in the country.

Dumb ass.

140 On to something positive, this You Tube clip is of Perry talking about foreign policy (primarily South and Central America), but the best part is at around the 3:30 mark where he answers why he went into politics.  Note zero hesitation in his response. Also, on Veteran's Day it's appropriate to remember he's the only vet of our presidential candidates. 

As for going on Letterman, I tend to lean against these things, but I think he did well and as long as the bulk of his time was/is spent on more serious talk show venues (which it was yesterday) I see no problem with it. 

141 But I will happily work for Newt should he get our nom.

142 So the Romneybots' new programming is to admit their candidate is an empty suit, but only an empty suit can beat the empty suit in the WH? Interesting

I seem to remember the libs settling on a similar candidate in 2004...

143 From NRO in September:

In Texas, they called it the “Father’s Day Massacre.”

In June 2001, fresh off his first legislative session as governor, Rick Perry vetoed 79 bills on the last day of his veto period — the time in which a governor can sign bills, veto them, or allow them to become law without his signature. Added to the three bills he had vetoed prior, Perry’s annihilation shattered the record for a Texas governor. (Perry easily knocked off Republican Bill Clements, who had axed 59 bills in 1989, from his first-place perch.) It was also a marked change from George W. Bush’s governing style: Bush had never vetoed more than 37 bills in a year.

144 according to binsearch I show Perry on Daily show on 2010.11.08

145 newt's momma always straightened her curlers before dropping the kids at school.

146 boots? thigh high or ankle?

147 I wonder if any of the other presidential candidates will thank Perry for his service at tonight's debate? 

BTW, I thought Michele Bachmann's quote after the debate re Perry's brain cramp was nice.  Good for her. 

148 148 But I will happily work for Newt should he get our nom.

Posted by: laceyunderalls saying this I'd never think I'd say at November 11, 2011 10:37 AM (pLTLS)

I'll work for him but not happily. He would be AWESOME in the debates but I've seen him up close--he is one ugly guy. We have got to stop running ugly gray short guys. Ugh. There has to be a decent lookin guy out there who is actually conservative and can remember their own name.

149

Wait! According to fellow Romneybot, JackStraw, Perry is corrupt and such on account of his consolidating and strengthening the governor's office to an extent never before seen. Making it far more powerful than it has ever been.

Posted by: jimmuy

What? They they took the lockbox off the thermostat so Perry could set the temperature in his office all by himself.

150 Hmmmm, I thought it was my slow internet connection at work but here at home with the frighteningly fast cable modem the main page still won't finish loading and the progress bar says it's something from youtube.

Something about Perry's demeanor reminds me of R. Regan.

A fondness for giving amnesty to illegals?  OK I'm sorry, I shouldn't be tearing down one of our best Not-Romney candidates.

151 146 Hell, the Texas Gov doesn't even have to sign bills into law.


Yep, just like every other fucking state in the country.

Dumb ass.

Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry at November 11, 2011 10:37 AM (K7Gb2)

And the Presidency as well.

152 Perry has vetoed less than 300 bills in his ten years. Romney vetoed a 1000 in his 4 years if we are using that as a standard.

153

Can we expect to see Perry on Dancing With The Stars? Can he cook?

154 >>>They are still really butthurt that, in August, Perry threatened the inevitability of their messiah. You got that backwards... it is the clown show that is Perry that makes Romney more palatable for some of those that would otherwise shun him. Perry is the best thing that happened to Romney's candidacy.

155 I still like Perry. Cain lost me with the rock----I got over race card crap many years ago---but he is being slimed.

156 Perry needs to avoid becoming a fringe candidate himself before the actual fringe candidates drop out.

Santorum, Michelle, Huntsman, I'm looking at you with the death eye.

157 I'll work for him but not happily

I don't hate him like I do Romney therefore I'd be happy. I'm really quite easy to please actually.

I want to see Mooch and her MIL packing up their shit. I want to send them packing boxes. I want it so badly I can taste it.

158 @160
I am using it as a rebuttal to the lie (that was debunked this summer) that the Texas Governor is a powerless figure head. 

159 I am sure that the republicans in all 57 states will forgive his memory lapse.

160 132 No according to JackStraw, Perry has used what power he does have as governor to do things you Perry advocates would be screaming to high he'll if it were anyone else. Since it's Perry you conveniently overlook it.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at November 11, 2011 10:30 AM (o/UM0)

And I thoroughly beat the shit out of his one source for that, Rolling Stone, as chock-full of lies, half-truths and omissions. 

I'll do a brief repeat from memory. 1) The author likely never went to Andrews, Texas--was wrong and/or lied on the geography, the geology, the flora and the distances. 2) The author lied about the type of nuclear waste stored and omitted that is was a treatment plant as well. 3) The author omitted that there is a nuclear fuel processing plant right across the border in NM. 4) The author omitted that another nuclear fuel processing plant is proposed for the area. 5) The author lied about when the waste was first stored there, which was before Perry came to office. 6) The author got a lot of anti-Perry quotes from a "Tea Party" candidate, that same Debra Medina who is a 9/11 Truther.

161 MITT is not a FLIP FLOPPER !!!!!!
MITT is ALL THINGZ to ALL PEOPLE!  !!1111
haterZ!!! HATERz!! !!haterZ!!!
eleventy !!!!1111

162

I am also confused by the general reaction to current Republican candidates.

Even Reagan, who was a fantastic speaker and naturally adopted an effective emotional and psychological stance, barely won over Jimmy Carter, who had done almost everything wrong to further tank a terrible economy.

For anyone not following closely back then, Reagan was characterized as a stupid buffoon, and that message was amplified around the world in every international media summary, passed on to relatives and friends through dinner conversations and phone calls to American voters who didn't watch the news.

The outcome of the 2012 election is anything but sure. The press and the world in general wants big government according to the Marxian meme, (how strange was it that Clinton said, "the days of big government are over") unless it is their side that is 'exploring some new intellectual nuance.' They are still bound and determined to get it.

163 I want to see Mooch and her MIL packing up their shit. I want to send them packing boxes. I want it so badly I can taste it.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at November 11, 2011 10:44 AM (pLTLS)

Has any other president had the MIL living in the white house with them?  That really gripes my ass!

164 Perry has vetoed less than 300 bills in his ten years. Romney vetoed a 1000 in his 4 years if we are using that as a standard.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at November 11, 2011 10:42 AM (o/UM0)

Who signed RomneyCare into state law?

165 Mitt is like the anti-Christ. Smooth, polished, strives  to be all things to all people. REPENT!

166 >>Can we expect to see Perry on Dancing With The Stars? Can he cook?

When can we expect to see Romney on Fox News center seat? 

167 Has any other president had the MIL living in the white house with them?

It's racist to raise the question.

168 IngrahamAngle Laura Ingraham

Newt: There is no point in beating Obama with someone who doesn't know what they believe.

Hmmmm.....wonder who he's talking about?

169 #167 no one said it was a powerless position. It's well established though that compared to other states it is not as powerful. That said I don't think it means anything because the size of Texas makes the position of governor more important compared to other states, if that makes any sense.

170

>>>Can we expect to see Perry on Dancing With The Stars? Can he cook?

>>When can we expect to see Romney on Fox News center seat? 

 

Yeah, that is odd. Why in the world would he want to skip that? It's the best news/opinion show on tv.

 

171 Fuckin' Primaries!  How do they work?!

172 I want it so badly I can taste it.

Not tears, I can tell you that.

173 @170 Awww, look who's butt hurt now.

174

Has any other president had the MIL a "body man" living in the white house with them?  That really gripes my ass!

Side B

175 Perry has vetoed less than 300 bills in his ten years. Romney vetoed a 1000 in his 4 years if we are using that as a standard.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at November 11, 2011 10:42 AM (o/UM0)

There's only one that Romney should have vetoed but didn't.

176 Reggie's leaving before the election kicks into high gear. I find that very telling.

177 184

Has any other president had the MIL a "body man" living in the white house with them? That really gripes my ass!

Side B

 

gripe? or grips?

178 #173 I know it wasn't the same person who signed the Texas version of the Dream act. In fact that was one of Romney's vetoes.

179 @Jim that old Time article about Reagan, nearly immunized me against any accusations of the left.  When you realize they have a single page playbook and have been reusing the same few plays adnauseum for decades.... well at that point.... they can kiss my black ass!

http://tinyurl.com/7ydbha5

180 JUST.FUCKING.SAD.

181

Has any other president had the MIL a "body man" living in the white house with them?  That really gripes my ass!

Side B

Posted by: Count de Monet, in the Perry tank for the duration at November 11, 2011 10:50 AM (4q5tP)

The fuck?  That guy lives there too!? 

182 Who signed RomneyCare into state law?

Regardless of your past reputation once you have been caught with a goat you will be forever remembered as "that goat farker".

183 Perry - you want Perry to go up against Obama and the MSM!?  Perry who started out real well with one crap debate after another.  Perry who told me I'm heartless because of my views on imigration.  Perry who stalled on having an economic policy and tax plan, then came out with a seriously flawed plan.  Perry who tried to imitate Huckabee by having pastor Jeffries call a significant group in the republican part members of cult (at least Huckabee was far more slick in his implementation).  Perry, short yellow bus passenger Perry.

That Perry?   Nominating Rick Perry that would be one, giant, "Ooops" in the words of the bard.

184 Yep, just like every other fucking state in the country.

Dumb ass.
Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry

My Bad....

I felt like such a dumb ass I went and checked a couple state's I had lived in.


Oh, what's this...
In both state's a bill may, or may not, become law if the Gov does not sign it (depending on timing and legislative session...)

Since you, stupid fuck, have agreed that a bill becomes law in Texas if the Gov does nothing (period) I see no reason to discuss further.

Thanks for putting the knowledge to me, stupid fuck.
BTW, I bet from your perspective that Perry fellow is really smart.

185 >>186 Reggie's leaving before the election kicks into high gear. I find that very telling

Yep.  Weird.

I also don't appreciate my tax dollars going to pay the salary of Obama's basketball (and perhaps more) "buddy."

186 @183

heh

187 They are still really butthurt that, in August, Perry threatened the inevitability of their messiah.x

Well that makes sense.  Our candidate is the odd-on favorite to win, and yours is preparing to take the electoral dirt nap. 

188

There's only one that Romney should have vetoed but didn't.

Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry at November 11, 2011 10:51 AM (K7Gb2)

Oh but don't you know?  It was Veto Proof so he had to do what he could!  And that's why he constantly supports it and you can't criticize him for his shitty government run health care law.  Oh but if there is anything bad in it then its the Democrats fault.  Because Romney is perfect and can do no wrong.

/romneybot

189 Has any other president had the MIL living in the white house with them?  That really gripes my ass!

For some reason Truman came to mind when I read this. He could hardly get Bess to live in the WH with him, nevermind his mil.

190 You ran off Snow White. Now you are stuck with the Seven Dwarfs.

191 Release the transcript! _{and the information on all the prior girlfriends - where are they?}

192

Hell, I got it! If Perry wants to get in touch with the Megan McFatass crowd, he has to make a "leaked" sex video with Mrs. Perry. It worked for Paris Hilton and Kim Karbigassian didn't it?

(shit, I'm some kinda redneck Morris, Perry should hire me)

193 and with someone that will have the courage  to do what's needed.
Posted by: willow at November 11, 2011 10:29 AM

Sorry, these are politicians, not statesmen.  If you want a statesman, you will have to get in the Wayback Machine and hit 1861.

194 He should go back to the democretins where he belongs.

Posted by: 1/1027th of a Janitor at November 11, 2011 10:05 AM (tazG1)
I grew up in a straight-ticket Democrat household. All my people were blue collar, pro-union folks. My grandfather, a lifelong Chrysler worker and UAW member, was buried with an FDR campaign button pinned to his lapel. He hated Nixon and Rockefeller with an undying, New Dealer passion.

So yeah, I was a Democrat, but two things happened: (1) my views changed over time; and (2) the traditional Democratic Party, the freedom-loving, communist-hating party of Truman and JFK, was suborned by its Leftmost fringe elements. Reagan once remarked, 'I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party left me.' I can relate.

We are not born with party affiliation branded to our foreheads. To denigrate Perry because he was once a Democrat argues two things at once: people don't change and political parties don't change. Both premises are untrue, and the conclusion--Perry isn't somehow a real Republican--is false.

195 Posted by: Romney Voter at November 11, 2011 10:54 AM (7MFxV)


Ah, did you get your little feelings hurt by being corrected?

Piece of advice, try being informed instead of just opinionated.

196

BTW, Herman Cain passed the Voice Stress Analysis test, while Mizz Bialek did not.

Wonder if Ace'll mention that?

197 NYSE just did a moment of silence and CNBC had the good sense to go silent as well.

198 HQ will keep on promoting their favorite candidate with puff pieces, while using every opportunity to demean his rivals.....can't expect any less.

199 the picture of Cain on Drudge is hilarious. He looks like a streetcorner pimp with his wares.

I'll give the guy credit.  He knows he won't win, and he's determined to go out his way.  If you don't like it, tough.

200 HQ will keep on promoting their favorite candidate with puff pieces, while using every opportunity to demean his rivals.....can't expect any less.

Feel free to link a substantive piece on Herman Cain.

201 Yep, just like every other fucking state in the country.

Dumb ass.

Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry at November 11, 2011 10:37 AM (K7Gb2)

And the Presidency as well.

Posted by: buzzion

What's a pocket veto, Alex?

202 @ 205 Piece of advice, try being informed instead of just opinionated.

Actually, he corrected you.  Try being educable instead of just opinionated.

203 I was in the Air Force once, a long time ago.  I never met many folks from MATC, mostly 914th ALW and 107th ARW. Best people in the whole damn armed forces.

You would think I'd have heard something about a talking horse flying transport planes, but no...

204

Who signed RomneyCare into state law?

Posted by: Count de Monet, in the Perry tank for the duration

Romney!

Soon, You will all have your RomneyCare and you will LIKE IT.

205

What's a pocket veto, Alex?

Posted by: Romney Voter at November 11, 2011 11:09 AM (7MFxV)

What's it say in the constitution right before the pocket veto clause numbnuts?

206 205 Posted by: Romney Voter at November 11, 2011 10:54 AM (7MFxV)


Ah, did you get your little feelings hurt by being corrected?

Piece of advice, try being informed instead of just opinionated.


Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry

Read it again...YOU were corrected.

I am also right that from your perspective Perry is a frickin' genius.

207 @204 troyriser, I can appreciate all that. One of my favorite political speeches of all time is Jeane Kirkpatrick's Blame America First speech from the '84 convention were she elaborated on that Reagan theme of how the dems had left him. However, in Perry's case all I see is political expediencey. It was getting harder and harder to get elected as a dem in Texas, back then, wasn't it? Sorry, but to me he's just a shyster career politician.

208

What's it say in the constitution right before the pocket veto clause numbnuts?

Posted by: buzzion at November 11, 2011 11:12 AM (GULKT)

You that word "UNLESS" - kinda tells you right there that all bills not signed do not automatically become law... I know... it's all so very, very... confusing.

You too must perceive Perry as some sort of supra-genius.

If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a Law, in like manner as if he had signed it, UNLESS the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its return, in which case it shall not be a Law.

209 What's amazing to an outsider like me about y'all's primary contests and your idiotic collection of "values voters" (LOL) is how experience and accomplishments are devalued to the point of essentially being worthless. A guy who's been running a conservative state for over a decade can't get any traction. Now he's the butt of jokes. Another guy who had one of the most conservative voting records in the entire U.S. Senate for over a decade and who's won elections in a key state can't even crack 3% in the polling. On the other hand, a guy who's never won anything or governed even a town is the most popular among y'all, even as his campaign is being exposed as a literal train wreck. Then a guy who never won a major election, has zero executive experience, and who flamed out of politics entirely, over a decade ago, apparently is y'all's 2nd choice. Totally bizarre. Nearly unbelievable. I mean, seriously, how retarded are your robo-rubes? It boggles the mind Anyways, stay classy, conservatives. See you at Barack's 2nd inaugural ball.

210

i think that spectacular failure the other nite makes it easier for him to stop going to debates. and that is what he should do. he is great when he gives a speech and great in interviews. play to your strengths.

 

211 I'm getting bored with this.  Same shit, different day.

212 Appearing on Letterman = Colossal fail.

213 188 #173 I know it wasn't the same person who signed the Texas version of the Dream act. In fact that was one of Romney's vetoes.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at November 11, 2011 10:52 AM (o/UM0)

 

Touche!

Though, one might point out the enormously hugely gigantic effect the 2001 law has had on illegal alien enrollment in Texas colleges and universities.

Link to previewtinyurl

"During the fall (2009 - CdM edit) semester, 12,138 students - about 1 percent of all Texas college students - benefited from the state law granting in-state tuition, according to the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board. Most of the immigrants among those students are illegal, and some others are not legal permanent residents or U.S. citizens."

"Texas awarded about $33.6 million in state and institutional financial aid to those students between fall 2004 and summer 2008."

"Since 2001, 22,697 students who benefited from the law have attended Texas colleges and universities. State officials were not able to provide data on how many graduated."

"During the 2009 fall semester, 8,406 such students were enrolled at community and technical schools and 3,725 at public universities. Seven were enrolled at health-related institutes."

 

BTW, that "about 1 percent" reference is complete bullshit.  Like a dime is "about 1 dollar" level of bullshit.  Idjit journalists:  Facts and stats and researching thereof- how do they f*uckig work?

A&M College Station, UT-Austin, & UH-Main, have 50K, 50K, and 37K, respectively.  Add to that another couple dozen public universities.  Link to wiki page via previewtinyurl  Wiki page does not include private universites (Rice, SMU, Baylor, etc), nor community colleges / Jr. colleges.

214

You that word "UNLESS" - kinda tells you right there that all bills not signed do not automatically become law... I know... it's all so very, very... confusing.

You too must perceive Perry as some sort of supra-genius.

If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a Law, in like manner as if he had signed it, UNLESS the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its return, in which case it shall not be a Law.

Posted by: Romney Voter at November 11, 2011 11:23 AM (7MFxV)

Nope sorry.  I don't have a messiah complex with my preferred candidate like Romney supporters have with theirs.  He's a politician not a genius. 

215 Man needs to get off the Xanax.

216 boots? thigh high or ankle?

Posted by: willow at November 11, 2011 10:40 AM (h+qn

Thigh-high with a matching Bustier...and nothing else.

217 220 If you don't like it, tough.

Didn't say I didn't like it. He wants to dress less then presidential looking it's fine with me -- he's the one that has to sell his image, and if he thinks that's the image that conveys seriousness, well it's his campaign to win or lose or sell books, or whatever reason.


I was unclear.  The line was supposed to represent Herman Cain's attitude, not mine.  Sorry for the confusion.

218 Actually, he corrected you. 

Actually, no.

219 He should have said that I was broken.

220 Hey, you know what?  I really liked that.  I thought he was funny.

It reminds me of that NH speech he gave that people claimed he was "drunk" for.  This actually suggests that he really wasn't -- that behind the "gruff tough guy" exterior he's actually got a knack for comedy and humor.

How odd is it that Rick Perry's supposed implosion has made me like him more and once again feel like I could support the guy on a gut level?

221 Dude. @GovernorPerry's not gonna be "done" till the day he steps down from being President of Texas. Which will be the day he gets sworn in as President of the United States.

222 Romney already has the largest network of volunteers. And I believe he vetoed over 800 bills, about 700 were overridden. Romney is the only serious conservative in the field. Seriousness is not just a function of some snappy proposals. It's depth and intellect and credibility as well.

223

gripe? or grips?

I don't think Obama's body man wants to grip your ass. He probably has Nittany lion tastes.

224 @235
Romney is the only serious conservative in the field. Seriousness is not just a function of some snappy proposals. It's depth and intellect and credibility as well.


wipe your mouth.

225 What's pathetic is how fake the "real conservative" meme is.  Real conservatives are conservatives who have either never held office, or held office long enough ago that myths have grown around them.

226 >>And I thoroughly beat the shit out of his one source for that, Rolling Stone, as chock-full of lies, half-truths and omissions. You didn't beat the shit out of anything. You also conveniently ignored the numerous articles I gave you from left wing sites like NRO, the WSJ and the Washington Examiner which said the exact same things. The Rolling Stone article was well sourced and despite where it came from there was nothing in it that wasn't true. ace knows these things are true but like all True Conservative blogs, he won't do any posts on them. Hurts the narrative and we can't have that. But its pointless arguing with people about Perry on places like this. Even when he completely screws the pooch as he did yet again in the last debate his troops rally to the cause and slime Romney. Some of you keep insisting that Romney has done nothing to reach out to True Conservatives and yet completely ignore his speech at AfP, Tea Party HQ, where he laid out one of the most substantive policy speeches by any candidate and was heavily praised by Ryan for the approach and detail he gave on entitlement reform. You just go back to the same tired talking points that Romney is a flip flopper because he became more conservative in his governing than he did when he was running for governor. Brilliant. And for those who continue to insist that Romney is the personification of evil and is super mean to poor old Rick, go back and listen to that 53 seconds of dead air. Instead of letting him stand there like a deer in the headlights, one candidate threw him a lifeline by mentioning the EPA when Perry couldn't name the 3rd agency he would cut. That candidate was Romney.

227 226

...

BTW, that "about 1 percent" reference is complete bullshit.  Like a dime is "about 1 dollar" level of bullshit.  Idjit journalists:  Facts and stats and researching thereof- how do they f*uckig work?

A&M College Station, UT-Austin, & UH-Main, have 50K, 50K, and 37K, respectively.  Add to that another couple dozen public universities.  Linkto wiki page via previewtinyurl  Wiki page does not include private universites (Rice, SMU, Baylor, etc), nor community colleges / Jr. colleges.

Posted by: Count de Monet, in the Perry tank for the duration at November 11, 2011 11:28 AM (4q5tP)

 

Much later, deep in the fat-encased layers of de Monet's primitive brain, a long dormant synapse fires to life ...

Hey! Wait a minute.  12,138 is about 1 percent of 1,213,800.  What a math-dumbass idjit is that de Monet guy.  [sheepishly nods head]  Well, good thing it's near the bottom of a now dead post.  No one will ever see it.

228 Because Perry screws up doesn't make Romney a conservative, he's still an uber RINO and stealth liberal candidate as his meetings with pro abortion groups verify.
I like Perry but can't vote for him.  The ads against Perry during a general election would be fair but brutal:  The scene is the WH, the NSA Director and Sec'y of Defense meets with President Perry.  Mr. President, Iran is launching an attack on Israel, what should we do. Shot to Perry (Ten Second Brain Freeze Footage follows).  Our defense and the defense of our allies are too important to leave to chance.  We need a President who functions fully at all times.
BHO for President. 
The issues to which this clip could be attached are endless and if Perry came out with twenty percent in the General Election after the battering he would take, that would be a miracle.
Also the brain freeze ad would support dems' "it's just luck" argument, that it was not Perry's policies that helped Texas, it was just circumstances beyond him.  The ad would go, Texas is doing great, DESPITE, Rick Perry, not because of him.  Can anyone doubt that (then ad goes to brain freeze footage.)

229 And the fact that Romney isn't conservative doesn't change the fact that Perry's still a corrupt special-interests politician and you're still an idiot for supporting him. Quit getting off on what he says, pull your head out of your ass, and look at what he's actually done in TX.  The man is big government and special interests.

230

Posted by: eaglewingz08 at November 11, 2011 01:34 PM (na8r5)

Counter clip: 

"When the opportunity to take down a mortal threat arose, Obama slept on it, played golf, and took 18 hours to make a decision."

"Perry smoothly drew his Ruger .380, took aim, and ventilated the coyote's hide.

"Decisive and appropriate action-taking is what America needs in a President.

"Rick Perry, a sure shooter for 2012."

231

You didn't beat the shit out of anything. You also conveniently ignored the numerous articles I gave you from left wing sites like NRO, the WSJ and the Washington Examiner which said the exact same things.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2011 12:36 PM (TMB3S)

NRO, the WSJ and the Washington Examiner are left-wing sites? Really? Wow. Who knew?

Hey, so how's it going, JackStraw? Still an Internet Tough Guy? Just out of curiosity, are you the same JackStraw who cyberstalked Ann Althouse a few years back? You were a sock farmer then, too, I understand, calling yourself J. Polk and Sigmund and a few other names. Do you still talk to your socks online to make it seem like your comments generate interest, like you did on her blog? Are you doing it now? By the way, did badgering a woman like Ann online make you feel manly and strong? Just wondering.

 

232 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

233 >>Hey, so how's it going, JackStraw? Still an Internet Tough Guy? Just out of curiosity, are you the same JackStraw who cyberstalked Ann Althouse a few years back? You were a sock farmer then, too, I understand, calling yourself J. Polk and Sigmund and a few other names. Do you still talk to your socks online to make it seem like your comments generate interest, like you did on her blog? Are you doing it now? By the way, did badgering a woman like Ann online make you feel manly and strong? Just wondering. What the fuck are you babbling about? I've never commented on Ann Althouses blog under any name. I've probably read two or three posts there when directed by this blog. Period. Is this what's got you so twisted buttercup? You falsely accuse me of being someone I'm not to rush to the aid of some blogger you like? Are you really that pathetic? No, dummy. This is the name I comment under. I don't care if you don't believe it or don't like it. Pathetic.

234 Harassing women online just felt like something you would do, JackStraw, seeing as how you threaten to punch people out online using the magical *Punch* button on your keyboard.

235 Fuck off, dipstick. It was you who talked about how brave you are to comment under your own name. Gee, how many people here do that? You. If you want to do that have at it. It doesn't give you license to lie about me or accuse me of stalking women. Talk about cowardly. It appears you are the one stalking me. I've been here for years and no many of the original regulars offline as well as ace and some of he co-bloggers. Why don't you ask them if I am the cyberstalker you accuse me of being.

236

No, JackStraw, I was just politely asking if you were the same guy. I didn't actually say you were. Just seemed to me you had so much in common with that other JackStraw, the twisted fuck sharing your username who likes trolling female bloggers.

And I'm sure everyone who knows you IRL has no idea what you do in the privacy of your home. Or would want to know.

237 You really are pathetic. Given the lowlife tactics you use I'm sure your a prince in real life. Before you comment on the character of other people you should take a good hard look at yourself. After falsely accusing me, and now doubling down with your transparently cheap games, you're in no position to be judging others.

238 Although not a prince or a saint, I can comment on the character of an ITG jackoff who has anonymously threatened three AoS posters I know about. That would be you, JackStraw. So whenever I encounter you online, I'm going to be sure to tell you what I think of you, you cowardly piece of shit.

239 And I you. One of those princes you talked said Romney attracted truthers. You think that's a joke? Yeah, you probably do. And you bet, anyone who said that to my face would provoke a serious reaction. The other was you who called me a coward and now a cyberstalker. Yes, I would be happy to discuss that with you as well. Why don't you tell me who the 3rd is? Who the fuck are you anyway? You show up were 5 minutes ago and now you are internet tough guy protector? If you don't like it then we can chat about it anywhere you would like. I really don't care what you think is or isn't appropriate. It's no problem for people to call Romney supporters the liars, sellouts, douchebags and now truthers but we are not supposed to push back? Blow me. I won't resort to your tactics and make shit up, tough guy, I'll just tell you to go fuck yourself.

240 Who the fuck are you anyway? You show up were 5 minutes ago and now you are internet tough guy protector?

Posted by: JackStraw at November 11, 2011 04:03 PM (TMB3S)

Rational much? You're babbling now. To clarify:

No, I didn't call you a cyberstalker. Again, I merely pointed out that a guy sharing your username (same one-word spelling, first and second-word capitalization) cyberstalked Ann Althouse some years ago. She deleted his posts on her blog but she and her readers talked about that particular 'JackStraw' at length. Look it up yourself. Nothing ever disappears on the Interwebz.

Yes, I did and do think you are cowardly. Anonymously threatening people is inherently cowardly.

241 there will never be a mormon president. deal with it.

242 >>No, I didn't call you a cyberstalker. Yeah, you did cheese dick. You don't get to play your passive aggressive bullshit games like "Say, are you the Troy Riser who was caught sucking little boys dicks in bus stations" and then pretend you don't know exactly what you were doing. You tried to paint me with a cyberstalker brush because you're all butthurt that I got sick of the increasing insults, which you would know about if you hadn't showed up here 5 minutes ago, and had had enough. I lost family on 9/11/. I don't enjoy being called a truther. If that bothers you, tough shit. Nothing is more cowardly than accusing someone they had nothing to do with but apparently that doesn't stop you in your righteous mission to defend a blogger who I've barely heard of and never commented on her site or commenters here who feel free to call people the most despicable names. If you were truly curious if I had ever commented there all you had to do is ask. But you didn't, did you? >>Yes, I did and do think you are cowardly. Anonymously threatening people is inherently cowardly. And you're an asshole for not knowing what the fuck you are talking about and thinking its your job to come to a new blog and be the protector of people who toss out terms like truther along with liar and many, many more over support for a political candidate. This shit has been going on for months but you wouldn't know that, would you internet protector of douchebags because you just got here. You have no idea what you are talking about but clearly that doesn't stop you. Say whatever you want. Clearly, that's your M.O.

243

JackStraw, I didn't just get here. I've been frequenting AoS for several years now. However, unlike you, I can also differentiate fantasy from reality and know I can't protect anyone from harm while sitting in front of my keyboard any more than you can physically hurt them from yours.

I'm sorry you lost family on 9-11. That's a terrible thing. However, if someone calls you a Truther, more likely than not they wouldn't know about your family history. If they did know, then they're trolling you, hoping for a reaction. That you gave them the reaction they wanted says you're fairly easy prey and therefore shouldn't play online. Get out in the real world more often, where things actually matter. Have real conversations with real people.

Lastly, anonymously threatening to punch people out online is ridiculous. The odds of you driving or flying from, say, Washington state to my home state of Indiana are very small, I would think. And if you or another Internet stranger with bad intent did show up at my door, don't expect Marquis de Queensbury rules. Expect, among other things, a police presence and an all-around bad day.

Grow the hell up.

244 "Another brain cramp or even one of his typical extended periods where he just checks out and he's done." Count on it. Well, I'm being unfair. If Perry has actually thrown in the towel and what the rest of this short trip on a fast machine is all about it retrieving his dignity and standing, he might do okay - I say MIGHT because there's even a little bit of pressure in striving for that goal, and he's just no good with the words coming out of the mouth thing under any sort of pressure. But if he actually thinks he's got to make a big move to get back into this contest, whoa nelly, this little meeting could get a little out of hand.

245 >>I'm sorry you lost family on 9-11. That's a terrible thing. However, if someone calls you a Truther, more likely than not they wouldn't know about your family history. So you think it's acceptable to say that about someone just because they didn't know my family history? You've been making all sort of assumptions about me but you know nothing about me. Who the fuck do you think you are, the internet police? >>That you gave them the reaction they wanted says you're fairly easy prey and therefore shouldn't play online. Get out in the real world more often, where things actually matter. Have real conversations with real people. Once again with the asshole comments. I go weeks without commenting here, the only blog I comment on, because of my job and my play time. Again, you know nothing about me but you give your condescending little shots instead of doing what you should have done in the beginning, apologize for jumping into a situation you have no idea about and making assumptions. Who the fuck are you to tell people how to live their lives? >>Lastly, anonymously threatening to punch people out online is ridiculous. Lastly, you arrogant little twat, there are lines you do not cross. I'm sure you have some. Truthers is it for me. If you call me that to my face I will knock your dick in the dirt. Do it here is no better. If you are too stupid to understand that perhaps its you who should log off and talk to actual people and realize you don't get throw that kind of shit around without pushback. Again, if you don't like it, fuck you. Now run along and tell someone else how to live their life.

246 " there will never be a mormon president. deal with it."

Now were getting a real, substantial, intellectual debate.  If Romney is nominated, you should vote for that fine christian Barrack Hussein Obama.

247 Funny, Obama's brain-freeze didn't draw anywhere near as much attention or criticism.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU

248 "Perry was a Democrat until it became popular not to be one.

Lot's of people point to Reagan, but he became a Republican when it was actually unpopular to do so. Perry became a Republican in 1989 for fucks sake, after eight years of Reagan had come and gone."

Perry was a Democrat until the pro-life Democrat for President lost overwhelmingly to Michael Dukakis and Jesse Jackson, prompting that pro-life Democrat to become a bad imitation of Michael Moore.  If that isn't a good excuse for Perry to fix his label to reflect his lifelong convictions, I'm not sure what would be.  Please advise.

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