1

Asserted: many people do not form political opinions in a vacuum. Indeed, many do not form opinions at all, but co-opt opinions and positions (when they do so at all) based upon narratives that receive broad, positive media attention.

 

If this is true, then the effort is more than cathartic. It is crucial.

2 This is why I can't run for office.  No political party wants a candidate that responds to the media with profanity.

3 This is why I can't run for office.  No political party wants a candidate that responds to the media with profanity Or rape.

4 Media bias posts online are so routine that i skip them. On the other hand, making the media bias argument to your lazy friends and family is critical. Because they lap up the propaganda with a giant spoon.

5 Is Breitbart right that this should be the main (or at least a very major) focus of the movement?

I think it's more like a chore- it's something that has to be done all the time, just for maintenance.  Like taking out the garbage, or doing the dishes, or whatever.  It needs to be done constantly- not because it will win us new converts in droves (though I've heard enough say "I was a liberal but then I started watching/listenting to/whatever..." to keep me from discounting it for that purpose completely), but to prevent those who are mostly inclined to our side from slipping over for lack of information.

We often talk about "doing your homework," but let's be real- I'm one of the more plugged in people I know, and my most "productive" time, politically/socially speaking, is at work.  If I weren't doing support for a (very) stable system, I would get virtually no Conservative news.  Once you factor in commute, kids, dinner, chores, the dog, etc., I get maybe an hour to an hour-and-a-half where I get to consume media of any variety- and I mostly use it for entertainment.

That's where folks like Brietbart, Fox News, Ace, even Hot Air, Stacey McCain, and such come in- to do my homework for me and give the "Cliff's notes" for what's going on.

And that's why it's important for the Conservative media to spend some constant amount of effort on pushing back the liberal narrative and exposing the liberal bias.

6 You've got to AC-cen-tu-ate the positive,
e-li-MI-nate the negative!

I think we need to keep correcting the media, but I wouldn't make it the focus of the conservative movement.  (Just as I wouldn't make the focus of the conservative movement attacking academe.) 

The (old) media is dying. It will die on its own, without our "help." 

Print, in particular, is dead.  My dad (who lives in the DC-Balto metro area and worked in both DC and Balto) at one time got no fewer than 4 daily papers, plus the Sunday NYTs and various local weekly rags from his current and childhood home towns.  He's down to (I believe) two newspapers. 

The non-news media stuff, sitcoms and movies and whatnot, is also dying.  Movies and music are too pricey.  Television is becoming more and more "reality" tv.  So the influence is going to continue to wane.  Conservatives who are in a position to produce good entertainment should do so and be a bit braver about being conservatives, but I am not going to go to a movie just because it's "politically-correct." 

The way to succeed is to show people how Big Government equals Loss of Freedom, not focus on how biased the media is.

7 The Right makes the fundamental mistake of expecting the political class to make everything right, where I believe that itÂ’s the media class that dictates what happens in Washington and dictates what happens with cultural ties.

Yeah, I've got a problem with this...

It doesn't make much sense.

8

This is why I can't run for office.  No political party wants a candidate that responds to the media with profanity

Or rape

 

Not quite true.

9 I agree with AllenG above. It may only win a few converts a year but it still needs to be done and done often. This was Rove and Bush's biggest failing, allowing the MFM to define them without firing back.

10 Well, in talking to non-political people, the sense I get is that they know the media is biased to the left, but they presume that they are just putting an interpretation on honest facts.

The problem is the State Media lies on a regular basis and still most non-political types don't think they go that far.

I think that Bush 43 missed a real chance to change the debate with the TANG fraud. The rightwing blogosphere caught the State Media in a blatant lie...but the Republican political class let it go.

11 Ace, I hope you get a cut of the sales on the book. Hey, free enterprise and all.
 
Seriously, some of what we can do is to help the MBM sink down the toilet. Make sure your activities don't support these cocksuckweasels in any financial way. If you want to hurt a liberal media douchebag, donkeypunch him/her in the pocketbook. They are already on financial thin ice.
 
Make Newsweak look like a bargain at $1.

12 Personally, I think it's important to point out how terribly stupid these people are.

Nothing bursts the bubble of socialism like the realization that they aren't supermen that know better than you. How many people look to Obama (or Ted Kennedy or any list of liberals) to do the hard work of life for them and how many do it not because they want to but because they believe these ubermensches do know better?

13 Or rape.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Borderline Rapist Injured Reserve at April 18, 2011 12:12 PM (5pIHA)

I'm still disappointed I never got a, uh, private interview with Perky Couric.

14 I'm of the opinion that we should engage on all levels, so I have no problem with calling the media out as the liars they are on a regular basis, but I don't think it should be the sole focus.  Our side needs to also offer a compelling alternative.

That is not to say that if some people, Brietbart, want to go whole hog that direction, that's fine too.  A bunch of single focus people on different topics is the same as a bunch of people with multiple focuses (focii?).

15

Having the media firmly on your side is a huge advantage for the left. But ...

>> "According to Gallup, Americans are still by a two-to-one ratio, conservative to liberal."

... that's a huge advantage for the right.

There's a long-standing theory of mass media called agenda setting. In short, it says the media dictate what becomes issues (they set the agenda) but they can't control the outcomes.

Again, this is a huge advantage and goes a long way to explaining how Obama got 52% support in 2008. But it's not everything; otherwise, he may have received 95% of the votes.

(You've got some good theories, too, Ace. Agenda setting is more strategic, whereas yours focus on tactics. They're all valuable, in my humbles.)

16 Nothing bursts the bubble of socialism like the realization that they aren't supermen that know better than you.

Imagine if Al Gore's statement that it the temperature just under the ground quickly reaches millions of degrees got heavy airplay. Or Obama's 3000% cost deductions...

17 media bias is old news but its important to point out when they cross the line into killing stories because they hurt the liberal narrative and invent stories to clobber conservatives. I always knew the media was biased and figured I was smart enough to compensate for their spin. I was shocked in 2008 when I started looking a little deeper to learn the extent of filtering and making up stories that was being done vs me naively thinking they just put their liberal P/R spin on events but still basically covered all of the news.

18 sock off.

19 The LAT is still embargoing a tape of Obama attending a reception for known anti-Semite Rashid Khalidi (sp?).

Still.

20 I have no use for liberals except as a punch line in a joke

21

I've posted this on another comment thread, but I think it fits here to. We need to take the fight to the enemy. This weekend I spent my time in an exhaustive fight on a site called spacebattles.com. In the forum section in the non sci fi debate thread I fought with an overwhelming number of lefties. The shear level of abuse was pretty bad, but my point wasn't to win any arguments. Instead I tried to just get the message out there.

The lefties at that site dominate it with no push back really. We have to stop letting things like this go. People who post here and at other conservative web sites need to take the time and go to non political lefty sites and confront the left when they bring up politics (politely of course because that just makes them even angrier).

When I used some blog posts from this site to support my case I was called a racist and so was this site and all the people who posted here. This can't go unchallenged or it will simply continue.

In order to will the battle of ideas you have to carry the fight to the enemy and this is a good way to do it, to sap their energy and to throw them into disarray. I will continue to fight the good fight there, but it would be nice to see at least some conservative support. Even if it is just to post a few words in my defense if you don't want to start your own thread.

Please give some feed back, because it is very discouraging to feel that you are being left out in the cold

22 I hate the MSM even more than I hate terrorists. The terrorists so far have won small (compared to the size of our civilization) but horrific battles against us. The MSM on the other hand, are waging a full-spectrum, 24-7, 365 war against us which is taking us to the brink far faster than the terrorist scum are.

23 Again, this is a huge advantage and goes a long way to explaining how Obama got 52% support in 2008. But it's not everything; otherwise, he may have received 95% of the votes.

It is interesting to consider what the political ground looked like in 2008 when Obama got his 52% mandate:

1) The State Media made the case the Iraq war was based on lies.
2) The State Media made the case the economic collapse was do to George Bush deregulating...something.
3) The State Media was calling out the terrible $250B Bush deficits as eminently leading to an apocalypse.
4) The State Media was playing up high oil prices as being because of Bush...for some reason.
5) The State Media blamed Bush for a hurricane, and for the lack of local response to it.
6) The State Media characterized McCain, Bush's primary opponent within the Republican party, as a clone of Bush.

Overall, it was a textbook propaganda campaign. And yet still, Obama couldn't get more then 52% of the vote...

24 The few times I have watched TV news, I have noticed that the MFM largely blocks intelligent responses by conservative lawmakers but will cover a majority of the what the libs say. So if, say, Jeb Hensarling makes a great argument against tax increases, they'll ignore that and instead focus on Chuckie Schumer's reponse to the point that you think that no conservative lawmaker rejected the premise.

The MFM: If we didn't report it, it didn't happen.

25 Jeff Probst, you magnificent bastard!

26 The LAT is still embargoing a tape of Obama attending a reception for known anti-Semite Rashid Khalidi (sp?).

The people's right to know trumps all (Pre Jan 22, 2009)! Uh, unless it hurts our political leaders. (Post Jan 22, 2009). 

27 Ace:

There are pecuniary and non-pecuniary benefits to any profession. In the case of the media, you get to have a very outsized say in the country's basic trajectory towards liberalism socialism and state control or towards freedom and equality. The people in the media have, by and large, chosen the profession for those non-pecuniary benefits, and will do whatever is possible to keep them.

Ace, the "pecuniary" and "non-pecuniary" benefits for the MSM are distinctions so small as to be meaningless.  In an era of big corporate ownership of major media outlets - corporations that are increasingly dependent on federal largesse, an incomprehensible treasure chest controlled by statists who are  moving with a steady pace to put the clamps on alternate media - professional journalists can have their liberal cake and eat it, too.  The tea party people of this country are the existential  threat to their employers and to the administration that directs the  money to the coffers of its private-sector (and semi-private sector) financial supporters.

The MSM will not look for left-wing weirdness at protest marches.  As Datechguy says, the most common sin of the MSM is the sin of omission.

The blogs are picking up the slack.  Two examples of the nuts trying to drown out the Palin speech in Madison (videos):

Althouse:  LINK

YouTube: LINK

28 90 percent of the problems we face are due to the media, not because they caused them, but because they enable them.  The traditional media have to be destroyed.

29 I was called a racist

The quickest and deadliest response is that this is psychological projection.

If confronted, mention that condescending paternalism is just as racist and even more damaging than the Klan variety.

30

Tell me if these lines are or are not effective:

"I can see Russia from my house".

"If we do not go shopping then the terrorists have won"

 

I do know this; neither have any basis in fact.

Also this: both lines were used to discredit whatever did come from the mouths of the people to whom these lines were falsely attributed.

 

If the above is true, then it is important to counter sources that engage in such behaviours and to consider the importance of creating effective associations (but not to resort to falsehoods like the examples given above).

31 Also.

It seems like Ace has gone in for the "non-pecuniary" aspects of his job, which means that the rest of you morons with a functioning debit card and a Pay-Pal account should probably kick in $30 this month.

Which I can't do.

But you should.

"Pecuniary aspects", my ass...

Someone is going to have to pick the nits out the Ewok's hair, once he scampers back home!

Do you want to do it?

(I thought not.)

Why not make him happy and safe in his own little Apartment, where he can be fed and warm and feel free to write devastating blog posts without any one of us having to actually touch him?

Eh, that came out all wrong.

I would totally hug Ace, if I had to.

SRSLY!

32 I was called a racist

How dare you judge a man by the content of his character and not the color of his skin!

33 The MSM can't die fast enough.

34 I refuse to accept the premise that the media is always going to be the way they are now.

How many good candidates have we lost because of the way Bush and Palin were treated?  How many people never ran because they didn't want to put their families and friends through the meat-grinder?

Why are we allowing them and the universities to control not only the narrative of current events,  but of history itself?

To just say "That's the way it is" is to give up.

I think Breitbart is right.  It is a very important fight, and one we should not give up on.  I remind you all that we had NOT ONE heroic movie about the troops in Iraq or Afghanistan.  Not one.  Plenty of "Troops are murderers and war is pointless" movies,  but not one thing like "Sands of Iwo Jima."

Our voice needs to be heard in the media..press,  TV,  movies,  etc.  And I applaud Breitbat for his efforts.

35

For the billiontieth time:

Breitbart is spot on.  Republicans who treat the MFM as friends with the political consultant/hack-approved bag of BS need their heads examined.  I give you Exhibit A:  John "Mavericky" McCain.

There are direct methods of communicating now to bypass all that and that should be planks 1 through 70,000,000 of the communications strategy for 2012.

36 "I can see Russia from my house".

I actually can.  Its called google earth.

37 On one other score involving calling out the media. Not enough has been done to show the outright lies and editing that the MFM news shows on TV do.

The dishonest editing of the Palin interviews on ABC in which they cut and pasted answers between different questions and the other things they do in other conservative interviews.

In addition, more needs to be done on the lying and distorted hit jobs they do against corporate America. I have seen side-by-side taped interviews of that and the public would simply be shocked out of their gourd if they were ever exposed to how bad it is.

The exploding trucks fraud was just a pimple on the exposure chart's butt, and even that one most average Americans are not even aware of it.  And they are certainly not aware of how common this type of news fraud is.

38 The exploding trucks fraud was just a pimple on the exposure chart's butt, and even that one most average Americans are not even aware of it.  And they are certainly not aware of how common this type of news fraud is.

Posted by: Vic

 

How many pimples do you have to get before you're diagnosed with terminal acne?

39

I ran across a post over at Founding Bloggers that asks why have we not heard the rest of Obama's "stupid" hot mic rant last week.

That's a really good question. FB has searched and cannot seem to find the entire clip, and they're calling on the MBM to release the whole thing.

40
In the case of the media, you get to have a very outsized say in the country's basic trajectory towards liberalism socialism communism and state control or towards freedom and equality.

;">FIFY.

41

I ran across a post over at Founding Bloggers that asks why have we not heard the rest of Obama's "stupid" hot mic rant last week.

That's a really good question. FB has searched and cannot seem to find the entire clip, and they're calling on the MBM to release the whole thing.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 18, 2011 12:49 PM (d0Tfm)

 

It's probably been confiscated and interned in the same vault as the rest of his "past life" documents.

42 Overall, it was a textbook propaganda campaign. And yet still, Obama couldn't get more then 52% of the vote...

Posted by: 18-1 at April 18, 2011 12:30 PM (bgcml)

One item you left out was how the NYT refused to print McCain's response to Odummy's health care op-ed.  I think this gets ignored because McCain was such a pathetic excuse for a candidate, and would've fucked things up anyway, but to refuse to give a forum to a candidate of a major party crossed a line which had never been done before.

They should be hammered with that at every opportunity.

43 Breitbart should have built an internet time-bomb for Huffy when he designed that site for her. Imagine if at one random day the whole site said "look we don't pretend to be honest or unbiased. We hate you if you disagree with us" or something like that. Maybe something more subtle like the old Devo ads for Kool Aid where the background beat actually said "sugar is bad for you don't drink this don't drink this"

44 The media is growing ever more shameless in spouting lines directly from the WH. I saw Joe Walsh rebuke Christiane Amanpour about the failure of the MFM to criticize Obama and she just shrugged and continued using Jay Carney's talking points. Another example was Bob Scheiffer pretending not to understand the changes in the tax code under the Republican budget. He repeatedly received the answer that high taxes prevent economic growth, etc., yet he kept squawking "Tax cuts for the rich! Tax cuts for the rich!"

45 we lost 2008 because we had McCain and we were up against the brainless "call to history". I can rattle off a hundred names of folks who voted "just to make history". When you are facing that, you aren't going to win. However in 2012, history is in the past. Don't expect that 2-3% of the vote to do that again.

46

I'm undecided about that, as I said. Some days I want to do little else than scream at the media. Other days I wonder what the point is of that, apart from catharsis, and the pleasing feeling of knowing you've called out a liar.

It is a very important issue to be continuously beat on.

Look at it this way - something like 50% of the population still believes that the media is "objective" and "unbiased".  This is down significantly from 20 years ago.  It is still much, much too high, but progress has been made.  Out of that 50%, about 20% is people on the left, and 30% is from the mushy middle.

Without conservatives constantly pointing out the biased reporting, the lies, and the failure to report other things, the mushy middle will start to creep back toward trusting the media completely - which makes conservatives jobs much, much harder.  Hell, there are plenty of "republicans" out there who still trust the media and believe the media's portrayal of Obama as a "moderate". 

so, this is a battle that has to constantly be fought, even though the advances are incremental.  The mushy middle will forget all about media bias within days of conservatives failing to point it out. 

Another side advantage is that conservative policing of the media forces them to try and hide their bias.  Imagine how bad the media would be without conservatives fighting this fight? 

Yes, it seems like it is getting us nowhere, and it seems like we are endlessly repeating ourselves and to some extent whining.  But, the best way to understand the necessity of the fight is to imagine what it would be like without us doing it.

47 "According to Gallup, Americans are still by a two-to-one ratio, conservative to liberal."

Based on election results for the last 100 years, that statistic sounds like complete bullshit. Either that or a large portion of our 2-to-1 advantage is too stupid to be able to detect the difference between the conservative and liberal candidates.

48 Ace--

What you left out in your post -- and it's quite a critical point -- is that another underlying reason for the disproportionate strength of the left at present is the shift in mentality of the American people.  Human nature being what it is, we have found it very easy to slide into the "gimme" mindset in recent decades.  Even people who identify as conservatives in polls can easily square their conservatism with their "need" for federal flood insurance for the summer home they've just built in a Mississippi flood plain.  In my view, this really is the victory of the Left -- conditioning everyone to look to the gummint as the savior of first resort.

49 OT:  This was a good one on Wordle.

http://tinyurl.com/4yhvskd

50

Remember the months of pounding Toyota, Government Motors big competitor, got for supposed faulty gas pedals? Remember the huge 'Driver Error' report in January plastered on every news channel for a week? Yeah, me neither.

I liked the guy who told Cristima Amawhore 'The president should be embarrassed and people from your profession should not have let him get by so easy (with his budget do-over from 2 months ago).

51

It needs to be called out every time it happens.  To not do so is gving in and giving up.  It doesn't take much.  If you see it bring attention to it if all you do is write a few lines dispelling the lies.  

Why are we so lazy about fighting back?   If it's such hard work just give up, bend over and grab the vaseline.

 

52

The (old) media is dying. It will die on its own, without our "help." 

Sorry, but I don't agree that they're dying. if they were subject to normal market influences, like making a profit, I would agree. But they are ideologues, and fanatically so, and will continue trumpeting their propoganda for the 'common good' (*spit*)

They are already Pravda. if they collapse they'll just become government subsidized Pravda.

Bastards, all of them. They are a true domestic enemy.

53 I’ve written about this until I’m blue in the face but unless the American people realize how much danger their freedom is in from having a press that actively sides with and protects the Democrat Party, the cause is lost. And lately I’ve been thinking that too many people can’t even be bothered to care. And that is the definition of a rotten, decadent society. One that can’t be bothered to even realize it is being led into serfdom. I find it hard to even express how angry and despairing that makes me. I could better accept if the people consciously made a decision to vote for communism. I wouldn’t like it but I’d accept that I was on the losing side and try to adapt. But to have us taken over by it, without so much as a whimper makes me crazy. I spent years standing watch on the East German border, thinking I was doing my small part in protecting freedom. And all the while, my fellow citizens were worming their way through our institutions, undermining everything this country stands for. And the media has played the major role in this transformation, covering for and hiding the rot and downplaying and destroying anyone who tried to sound the warning. The media convinced us that character doesn’t matter and many of us lapped it up, just as long as there were some cold Bud’s in the fridge and some diversion on the TV. And so we got Clinton…….but Newt Gingrich had to be destroyed of course for being the Gingrich that stole Christmas. Al Gore almost caused a constitutional crisis with his petulant attempts to recount until he won……but Bush had to be destroyed for ‘stealing’ the election. Obama had a resume that wouldn’t get him past the HR department in most private company’s yet we made him CEO of the United States…….but Sarah Palin had to be destroyed because, of course, as Vice President her inexperience was a threat to the Republic. The examples go on and on, all courtesy of a media that would put Pravda to shame.

54 Based on election results for the last 100 years, that statistic sounds like complete bullshit. Either that or a large portion of our 2-to-1 advantage is too stupid to be able to detect the difference between the conservative and liberal candidates.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy's Gristle Encased Head at April 18, 2011 01:20 PM (+lsX1)

Well...a couple things here...

When the Republicans create serious contrast between their positions and the Democrats' positions, the Reps win elections - 2004 for example.

When they don't try, they lose, 2008 for example.

Furthermore, the non-political are grossly ignorant and heavily swayed by the State Media. Consider the 2008 election, in which a majority of Obama voters didn't know which party controlled congress - but they knew they were going to through those Republican bums out!

55

Well...a couple things here...

When the Republicans create serious contrast between their positions and the Democrats' positions, the Reps win elections - 2004 for example.

When they don't try, they lose, 2008 for example.

Furthermore, the non-political are grossly ignorant and heavily swayed by the State Media. Consider the 2008 election, in which a majority of Obama voters didn't know which party controlled congress - but they knew they were going to through those Republican bums out!

Yeah, either all that or the electorate really doesn't have a 2-to-1 conservative bias. It might be comforting to tell yourself that the country is this sleeping conservative giant ready to awaken at any moment, if only those fuckers from the media weren't so damn effective. But the simplest explanation is that we don't have large conservative majority. If we did, it would someway, somehow, someday manifest itself in something other than some random poll cited by a guy.

56

 The shear level of abuse was pretty bad, but my point wasn't to win any arguments. Instead I tried to just get the message out there.

I think this is an excellent observation. You don't engage the moonbats simply to see them roll over and concede [because they won't; remember they are moonbats]. You engage moonbats in a public forum so the audience can see moonbat ideas skewered and defeated, and, in the alternate, let the audience see the true face of the moonbat. 

I have also enjoy sidling up to folks with Obama stickers on their cars. I get close and talk softly, "I had to take mine off. I think we're outnumbered. You should think about it."

57

Ace, constant exposure and battle against the media complex is some of the most important work we can do.

Rush tends toward the "suck it up" view, saying the media are what they are, they'll never change, get used to it and fight other battles. Much as I like the big guy, I disagree with him here.

I look to the source here for direction. Evan Thomas (former Mr. Newsweek) said it best before the Kerry/Bush election. He stated that the media would come out big for Kerry, and that in the end, the media's support of Kerry (covert and overt) would be worth 15 to 20 points to him in the election. That is absolutely huge.  Cannot believe he admitted this, but this is one of their own assessing the size of the advantage this gives them.

Another pretty good blogger, inactive now, caught my attention when he noted that were it not for the incessant media support, liberalism would be sort of an eccentric, fringe philosophy that had about as much of a national following as the formal Libertarian party. No offense meant here, I tend Libertarian myself and have voted Libertarian, but he was making the point that liberalism has far, far more influence that it otherwise would, purely due to media favortism and influence. 

Please do not give up this battle. The 20% lunatic moonbat left will never change. Neither will the morons and the remainder of the 30-35% conservatives out there. But that leaves a huge, huge gap that can be influenced. Who seems "nice"? Who seems "elite"? Who do the cool, hip ironists like? What principles do the appealing folks you see every week in your favorite sitcom or drama appear to favor? Who do the Letterman, Leno, Stewart, Colbert crew and their audiences applaud for and sneer it? Our current media is only too glad to tell the 52% who can be influenced what and how they should be thinking.

If anything, conservatives need a "Media Manhattan Project". My 2 cents.  

58

Why are we so lazy about fighting back? If it's such hard work just give up, bend over and grab the vaseline.

Posted by: Steph at April 18, 2011 01:34 PM (AkdC5)

Don't be a harridan.

Think of it this way - think of a political success as a "paycheck," and for the sake of this argument paychecks are roughly equal.

Because of the MBM, liberals have to work only 8 hours a day to get a paycheck, conservatives have to work 16 hours. Not everyone is able to (or for that matter happy about) working twice as long every day for the same pay. That's not "lazy."

There's also the fact that we're constantly taking fire from both sides and the middle, as per your post.

And everybody wonder why we can't get good candidates.

59 I pre-ordered Andrew's book at Amazon, opened it the minute it arrived in the mail, and did not (could not!) put it down until I finished. It's that good.

Usually the only books I read straight through like a maniac are suspense/thrillers. But Andrew is so smart, so funny, so honest, so engaging, I couldn't get enough of him. Well, I never can. I watch every video of him I can. I know that his example has made me a bolder person with a lower bullshit tolerance and greater willingness to speak up.

Eh, but I can't do all his fancy rollerblade moves, yet...
http://tinyurl.com/3go4vem

60 PS I pretty much never shut up about lying reporters, the politically-driven press corps, and their constant campaign to destroy everything good, honest, and true.

And I'm sure I don't do enough.

This is a fucking steep hill we're on, and we have to fight just to maintain our position, not to mention gaining ground.

We're in a bad place, and a loot of it is due to corrupt, lying enemies in the press corps and their successful campaign to keep other voices out.

One of my big regrets is, as a yoot, allowing myself to be discouraged from pursuing that field of endeavor, even though I was marginalized because of my politics from the first *week* of journalism classes (and I was more Libertarian then).

John Stossel only got where is was because at the open he looked "anti-business" and that won him favor - when he realized that he had an anti-bureaucracy mission, he was shunned to a greater degree.

Journalism is one of the most politically-dominated and bigoted, restrictive professions in the world, getting people to realize this is an even more uphill battle, because the MBM and the left join hands and deny it, in unison, because they have ZERO honor or decency and can lie without any pangs of conscience.

Most people don't have time to puzzle through that because they're already working their 16 hours before they have time for politics.

It's not that we don't have more important battles, it's that we have to fight this one AS PART of every other issue, every morning, noon, and night.

61 monkeytoe@47:
something like 50% of the population still believes that the media is "objective" and "unbiased".

I know way too many Republicans who still watch CNN because they think that's what all the "intelligent, sophisticated" people watch. I think that's a big part of the reason we have so many RINOs, and so many Republicans can't stand Sarah Palin (for inchoate reasons they're never quite able to put into words).

62

It's always important to point out the hateful quality that seems to emerge when you corner a Leftist. They fail on substantive, measurable aspects of policy. You could post a thousand charts noting how revenue falls to the Treasury when tax rates are low and encourage economic activity. It matters not to the Leftist. Thus they fall back on the intangible, feelings and the basest aspects of human nature be they class envy or feelings of personal insecurity. Pointing out this aspect weakens their appeal to the disengaged and even to those moderately inclined to take the Leftists point of view. It makes them less attractive when it actually comes time to pull that election lever. It is of course but one weapon but it is one that counters the irrational appeal that the Left falls back on whenever they can. It must be something that is constantly reaffirmed, that underneath that soft caring demeanor is the spirit of the vicious, totalitarian demagouge.

63 Er make that "revenue increases".

64 @54: Posted by: LGoPs at April 18, 2011 01:43 PM (+Uv5V)

Thank you for your service, sir, and God bless you.
Great message. Don't give up. There are millions of us.

Can't stay online much longer, I'm leaving for my local Tea Party Tax Day rally!

65 I think it's pretty clear that the media will never change, and in fact will court bankruptcy and dwindling influence rather than change.

Then the objective becomes stepping on the foot that's mashing the gas pedal. Never interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake, but if you get the opportunity to help him make it worse, take it.

66 The media may be irredeemable lying communist leftists (birm), but what they are not is IRREPLACEABLE.

This is war and it is long past time we began thinking of it as such. 

67

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