July 27, 2011
— Gabriel Malor On the one hand, the International Space Station was started in 1998. So if the Russians crash her in 2020, it'll have spent more than two decades in orbit. Except, on the other hand, the ISS isn't scheduled to be completed until next year.
Oddly, nobody seems to think the Russians are telling the truth about this.
"We will be forced to sink the ISS. We cannot leave it in orbit as it is a very complicated and a heavy object," Roscosmos' deputy head Vitaly Davydov said in an interview posted on the agency's website."We have agreed with our partners that the ISS would function roughly until 2020," he noted.
After sinking hundreds of millions into construction of the space station -- billions if you include the cost of the space shuttle flights that carried the ISS modules into orbit -- knowledgeable government sources and NASA spokesmen were aghast at Davydov's plans to sink the station in the ocean.
This isn't the first time I've seen Russia come out with a statement that seems to be coming out of their own stovepipes," one congressional representative told FoxNews.com. "I would give it no credence at all."
Quick, without looking it up on Google, tell me what the ISS has been good for. No cheating, you!
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Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at July 27, 2011 03:40 PM (JEvSn)
Posted by: Phoenixgirl at July 27, 2011 03:41 PM (HlEmr)
Posted by: Comrade Arthur at July 27, 2011 03:44 PM (/62i9)
We could use it as Muslim outreach, if we can shoot it down in such a way that it will land on Mecca.
Posted by: Truman North at July 27, 2011 03:44 PM (K2wpv)
We could use it as Muslim outreach, if we can shoot it down in such a way that it will land on Mecca.
Posted by: Truman North at July 27, 2011 07:44 PM (K2wpv)
I could get behind this proposal, if it was timed for hadj.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 27, 2011 03:48 PM (ENKCw)
Posted by: palerider - at July 27, 2011 03:49 PM (dkExz)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 27, 2011 03:50 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: pep at July 27, 2011 03:50 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: nevergiveup at July 27, 2011 03:50 PM (7wmOW)
New members of the 100-Mile High Club?
Posted by: Rod Rescueman at July 27, 2011 03:51 PM (HwE/1)
Posted by: nevergiveup at July 27, 2011 03:52 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 27, 2011 03:53 PM (sVk8z)
Posted by: KSgop at July 27, 2011 03:57 PM (1B8Ua)
Posted by: KSgop at July 27, 2011 03:59 PM (1B8Ua)
Posted by: Soona at July 27, 2011 04:00 PM (0jg/X)
"Quick, without looking it up on Google, tell me what the ISS has been good for."
It gave children in the Western world and Russia a chance to dream! It was a FRED, just like the shuttle itself.
Posted by: Fa Cube Itches at July 27, 2011 04:00 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: nevergiveup at July 27, 2011 04:02 PM (7wmOW)
This will just be a ruse (see what I did there? A russian fake out - a ruse!) to hide an attack on the United States while I am in the final months of my second term. See, the Rooskies have hidden a giant EMP machine on board the ISS, which will have to enter the atmosphere over the Atlantic ocean and cross the continental US in order to land in the Pacific ocean. During the overflight, juuuuuussssstttt about over Joplin, MO, those Godless commies will detonate the EMP, wiping out all electronic gear in the US, just long enough for hordes of Mexican Narco-terrorists armed with F&F weapons and flying jet aircraft smuggled in from Israel to attack and overwhelm and conquer our glorious nation.
Fortunately, Trig Palin, my VP's son, will then be in the US Airforce (due to the hyper-intelligence he shows in his early schooling; something to do with drugs that Andrew Sullivan injected into Sarah Palin during a nocturnal visit when she was pregnant) and will engineer a special weapon that will shoot down the ISS just before it detonates, thereby saving the Western world from defeat.
Vote for me in 2012!
Posted by: Ron Paul! at July 27, 2011 04:02 PM (wMsKw)
Posted by: buzzion at July 27, 2011 04:03 PM (oVQFe)
Posted by: Soona at July 27, 2011 04:03 PM (0jg/X)
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 27, 2011 04:04 PM (ENKCw)
Posted by: nevergiveup at July 27, 2011 04:05 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff, EXXXTREMIST at July 27, 2011 04:05 PM (lGFXF)
If you replace every other word with "I'm a fuckwit" it creates a secret message.
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at July 27, 2011 04:05 PM (JEvSn)
@21: "The International Space Station is mankind's greatest achievement to date."
Ooooh, ahhhhhhhh-yeah. We, along with the Voyagers, are gonna have to go ahead and ahhhh disagree with you, there.
Posted by: Messers. Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins at July 27, 2011 04:05 PM (xy9wk)
________
FIFY
Posted by: Ensigh Chekhov at July 27, 2011 04:06 PM (IrbU4)
Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff, Cosmonaut at July 27, 2011 04:07 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at July 27, 2011 04:08 PM (YWk21)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at July 27, 2011 04:09 PM (kG75t)
That's what tube socks are for.
Posted by: Ivan Yakinov at July 27, 2011 04:10 PM (JEvSn)
These days I'll be happy if I don't spend my last days fighting the zombie horde and I'll be thrilled if I get to retire in a conventional sense.
Posted by: fluffy at July 27, 2011 04:12 PM (SwkdU)
Load about 67 of them on a shuttle...wait, how many can they squeeze in there?? I bet they could pack a shitload into the cargo bay. Hell, even if the shuttle blows up half a mile after launch...everybody wins!!!
Rinse and repeat.
Posted by: Portnoy at July 27, 2011 04:13 PM (KROfR)
Posted by: Michelle O, food cop at July 27, 2011 04:13 PM (sVk8z)
Posted by: There's no O in Liberty at July 27, 2011 04:13 PM (+6REq)
Posted by: Ronster at July 27, 2011 04:13 PM (9h8nr)
Ooooh, ahhhhhhhh-yeah. We, along with the Voyagers, are gonna have to go ahead and ahhhh disagree with you, there.
Posted by: Messers. Armstrong, Aldrin, and Collins at July 27, 2011 08:05 PM (xy9wk)
The space program is effectively dead.
Everything that Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins worked towards was a waste of time and you can thank Obama.
Posted by: ErikW at July 27, 2011 04:14 PM (TaoxO)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 27, 2011 04:14 PM (sVk8z)
Posted by: the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at July 27, 2011 04:14 PM (le5qc)
Posted by: curious at July 27, 2011 04:16 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Mister Money at July 27, 2011 04:16 PM (wN82N)
Posted by: curious at July 27, 2011 04:18 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 27, 2011 04:20 PM (sVk8z)
I have to admit that I've only heard of 2 of these organizations
1. THE BROTHERSÂ’ CIRCLE (f.k.a. FAMILY OF ELEVEN; f.k.a. THE TWENTY)
2. CAMORRA
3. YAKUZA (a.k.a. BORYOKUDAN; a.k.a. GOKUDO)
4. LOS ZETAS
Posted by: toby928™ at July 27, 2011 04:22 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Argh at July 27, 2011 04:22 PM (LJAdd)
I mean she's got that cute smile and awesome perm and a tiny, pert ass.
Her face looks like it caught on fire and it was stomped out by someone wearing baseball cleats.
Posted by: Ronster at July 27, 2011 04:23 PM (9h8nr)
Posted by: David at July 27, 2011 04:24 PM (ksn8f)
Posted by: Brendan at July 27, 2011 04:24 PM (U6MtO)
Posted by: Mister Money at July 27, 2011 08:16 PM (wN82N)
Indeed it has. Only a multi-national space effort could figure that one out.
Posted by: ErikW at July 27, 2011 04:25 PM (TaoxO)
Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at July 27, 2011 04:25 PM (U6MtO)
Posted by: David Wu at July 27, 2011 04:28 PM (U6MtO)
Posted by: CoolCzech at July 27, 2011 04:30 PM (kUaEF)
tell me what the ISS has been good for
I always liked the episode with the ISS Enterprise (Mirror, Mirror). Spock with a beard was awesome!
Posted by: malclave at July 27, 2011 04:31 PM (W1Ndc)
Posted by: Sincerely, Your Congressman at July 27, 2011 04:31 PM (evvN+)
Japan, India, and the USA can build a new space station with a real purpose to replace that one. We'll need one to build a serious craft for space exploration.
I don't think it would be so bad to take a few years off, though.
Posted by: Dustin at July 27, 2011 04:32 PM (519+h)
Posted by: ErikW at July 27, 2011 04:34 PM (TaoxO)
Posted by: ErikW at July 27, 2011 04:36 PM (TaoxO)
Posted by: Ron Paul! at July 27, 2011 08:02 PM (wMsKw)
If you replace every other word with "I'm a fuckwit" it creates a secret message.
Posted by: Not Drinking Nearly Enough at July 27, 2011 08:05 PM (JEvSn)
You're a fuckwit?
Posted by: Ron Paul! at July 27, 2011 04:37 PM (wMsKw)
Posted by: Ronster at July 27, 2011 04:38 PM (9h8nr)
"Quick, without looking it up on Google, tell me what the ISS has been good for. No cheating, you!"
Space sticks!! Oh, wait, that was Apollo.
Posted by: Tantorus Maximus at July 27, 2011 04:40 PM (3Ohzw)
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at July 27, 2011 04:44 PM (sVk8z)
Posted by: YIKES! at July 27, 2011 04:48 PM (sxNeR)
Posted by: Steve O at July 27, 2011 04:53 PM (ZSXRh)
Posted by: Steve O at July 27, 2011 04:54 PM (ZSXRh)
Posted by: Roscosmos at July 27, 2011 05:01 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: CoolCzech at July 27, 2011 05:07 PM (kUaEF)
*swimming*
*swimming*
*swimming*
Ooh! A sardine!
*nom*
*swimming*
*swimming*
*swimming*
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?!?!
*swimming*
*swimming*
Posted by: A blue shark somewhere in the Pacific in 2020 at July 27, 2011 05:07 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: CoolCzech at July 27, 2011 05:10 PM (kUaEF)
Obama irritates me as much as anyone on this site, but he's not the problem. The problem - the problem - is NASA's primary mission is to employ the 20,000 people who work on the space shuttle. It's a jobs program.
That's why NASA could never come up with a shuttle replacement - the shuttle's primary deficiency is it costs too damn much to operate because it requires too many people to keep it running, but because any follow-on program had to employ all those same people the cost problem was impossible for NASA to address.
We need to decide what NASA is for. If it's going to continue to be a jobs program it's not going to accomplish much in space. If it's going to be a space agency most of the people who worked on STS are going to have to find something else to do.
Posted by: Ace's liver at July 27, 2011 05:14 PM (XIXhw)
It's sort of like buying a few cubes of beer for someone you know, and turning around and discovering he went ahead and cashed in the empties at the recycling place without offering you first refusal.
Posted by: Mike James at July 27, 2011 05:23 PM (FMUMi)
Posted by: No Whining at July 27, 2011 05:56 PM (XHhkx)
Posted by: Barack Insane Obama at July 27, 2011 06:00 PM (hbAPu)
Posted by: No Whining at July 27, 2011 06:00 PM (XHhkx)
Sure the circuitry may be obsolete, but tin is tin, dammit, and getting tin into orbit is not getting cheaper. If nothing else, the ISS would make a decent junkyard office.
Posted by: comatus at July 27, 2011 06:12 PM (W5ilH)
The ISS existed to justify the existence of the space shuttle. That is all.
One can make a decent case for tax funding of miitary-related space research, the study of sunlike stars, and the search for Earth-crossing asteroids. That's about it. Until there's a commercial application to manned space flight (tourism?), robots do almost everything cheaper than humans. Humans require life support systems which don't generate any benefit above what robots would provide.
Posted by: Malcolm Kirkpatrick at July 27, 2011 06:21 PM (+qoBO)
I certainly don't mind splitting the cost of the expendables for launches to supply the damn thing, but I'd want to audit the books and see how much overhead and corruption they're trying to roll into it.
I don't think we should be in any hurry to let the thing re-enter, because it could well stay aloft for a few decades. By that point commercial rockets may have advanced enough to let Americans get back there again--and marvel over all the obsolete technology!
Be interesting to see what happens to it over 20 or 30 years.
Posted by: sf at July 27, 2011 07:31 PM (bJsQe)
Posted by: Robert17 at July 27, 2011 08:24 PM (LaaRT)
Two weeks ago Atlantis landed at KSC ending the 30 year space shuttle program. Last week the Russians declared that this is now the glorious Era of Soyuz, their 45 pus year old program in which we will pay them 60 million a seat to fly one of our astronauts to the ISS. Now they tell us when THEY will decide to deorbit the ISS.
Wake up America. We need immediate and assured acces to space now. Until we have a confirmed and viable followup program for the shuttle restart the assembly lines for the external tanks, etc and keep the shuttle flying. Atlantis, Discovery and Endeavour have over 200 unflown missions left on their airframes. Instead of heading to museums the orbiters could be flying a shuttle every other month for the next 30 plus YEARS. Bet you did not know that...
The shuttle program was to be followed by the Constellation program but Constellation was canceled by Obama so now we have nothing in place but studies, PP presentations and more hot air about a possible mission, sometimes in the future on some theoretical, unbuilt and unfunded launch vehicle that does not exist.
If you think the shuttle program was expensive imagine how expensive the world will be to live in once we cede the high ground of space to the Russians and Chinese.
Posted by: B767Guy at July 27, 2011 08:47 PM (qshNj)
What? you think it's a charade to cooperate with less advanced countries on this stuff? Crazy.
Posted by: Dustin at July 27, 2011 09:46 PM (519+h)
Posted by: Tony Greer at July 28, 2011 12:09 AM (UobUQ)
Posted by: The Snowman Audio Book at July 28, 2011 05:39 AM (NLVZi)
I think it should be boosted into Eath-Moon L4 or L5.
There it can be mothballed for future missions with very little maintenance.
Posted by: Cluebat from Exodar at July 28, 2011 06:36 AM (y67bA)
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