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August 22, 2011

Ryan Will Not Run for President; Decision is "Final"
— Ace

I put the long Ziegler/Romney/Perry/Palin post into draft, as this is a breaking story, so it should go up now. But I will re-publish the other one soon.

This is good/bad.

Although Ryan was expected to be the candidate of Establishment Intellectuals, many people so accused of being such actually were down on him, due to the political courage -- and equal political danger -- of the Ryan plan.

While I would normally be counted as part of Ryan's natural constituency, I couldn't get a lot of passion for the candidacy, now. Partly that's because I've already sold myself on Perry, of course.

Posted by: Ace at 11:07 AM | Comments (93)
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1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 22, 2011 11:07 AM (8y9MW)

2 Good

Posted by: pep at August 22, 2011 11:08 AM (GMG6W)

3 how long will this post last?

Posted by: robtr at August 22, 2011 11:08 AM (MtwBb)

Karl Rove is not pleased.

So that leaves Christie and Palin as the only remaining "game changer" who could enter the race

Posted by: Ben at August 22, 2011 11:08 AM (wuv1c)

5 Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure, Obama is.

Posted by: Hey.Wheres.Barry at August 22, 2011 11:08 AM (gQLr2)

6 Good. Go home and run for governor in a while. Then go for it.

Posted by: blaster at August 22, 2011 11:08 AM (l5dj7)

7 Gah! No wonder my comment disappeared. But, as far as Ryan, no surprise. He's a young man. He needs to get a cabinet post and maybe a term as governor under his belt.

Posted by: joncelli at August 22, 2011 11:08 AM (RD7QR)

8 Is this the first or second post?

Posted by: cherry π at August 22, 2011 11:09 AM (OhYCU)

9 Breaking: Ryan reviews who is already running and figures out that no one would be left in the legislature if he ran too.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 22, 2011 11:09 AM (0q2P7)

10 Right decision by Ryan.

Christie is not running.

Sorry to see Chaffetz is not going to challenge Hatch, btw.

Posted by: Y-not at August 22, 2011 11:09 AM (5H6zj)

11 I like Ryan a ton, but it's too early for him to run. That and if we can take the White House and Senate in 2012, we will need him to write the bugets. Hopefully Boehner can get voted out of his leadership position and Ryan can run the House Republicans.

Posted by: Ben at August 22, 2011 11:09 AM (wuv1c)

12 Good. Needs more time in the trenches.

...and I hope Rove is pissed as hell about this. I'm losing my respect for him.

Posted by: Sgt. York at August 22, 2011 11:09 AM (gzquD)

13 Somebody brokenated the comments in the last post.

I noticed that after hitting refresh after posting.

But it wasn't me. It was Congress! A run of bad luck, I tell you...

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 22, 2011 11:09 AM (Qxe/p)

14 Good. This election needs to be about jobs, not about cutting Grandma's Medicare and Social Security, which is exactly what Obama would've turned it into if Ryan had been the nominee.

And anyway, he never would've won the nomination. Merely would've taken votes away from Romney and Perry, weakening both to no perceptible gain.

Posted by: Jeff B. at August 22, 2011 11:09 AM (TADg9)

15

1 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

I like this much better than "First"

Posted by: there's a reason Fark filters the word "first" at August 22, 2011 11:09 AM (UaxA0)

16 Yeah....my post was brilliant, but never to be read. That's why it's so brilliant.

Posted by: © Sponge at August 22, 2011 11:09 AM (UK9cE)

17 Yeah, I am shocked and counting down the remaining Save the World Club members. That would be Christie, Palin and Giuliani.

Posted by: Marcus at August 22, 2011 11:09 AM (CHrmZ)

18 I had guessed as much after Dr. William Bennett, one of Ryan's mentors, published a piece praising Perry on Thursday. It sounds like his concern for his family was the deciding factor.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 22, 2011 11:09 AM (o2lIv)

19 What? Pataki isn't a gamechanger? Darn it. I was counting on him to fix everything.

Posted by: GMB at August 22, 2011 11:09 AM (wY55N)

20 Ryan is out? Did Obama "kill" him? (like Romney)

Posted by: cherry π at August 22, 2011 11:09 AM (OhYCU)

21 Why the hell you want to deconstruct Ziegler? His tirade is longer that one of your posts.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 22, 2011 11:10 AM (9CM5J)

22 Well shit, that's a lot of opposition research and flat out lies we made up that will go to waste. Or not. Who's next?

Posted by: MSM at August 22, 2011 11:10 AM (mka2b)

23 I think this opens up a clear path to the McCotter Presidency.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 22, 2011 11:10 AM (4nfy2)

24 My friends, I will run if called.
- you know who

Posted by: cherry π at August 22, 2011 11:11 AM (OhYCU)

25 Statement:

"I sincerely appreciate the support from those eager to chart a brighter future for the next generation. While humbled by the encouragement, I have not changed my mind, and therefore I am not seeking our party's nomination for President. I remain hopeful that our party will nominate a candidate committed to a pro-growth agenda of reform that restores the promise and prosperity of our exceptional nation. I remain grateful to those I serve in Southern Wisconsin for the unique opportunity to advance this effort in Congress."

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 22, 2011 11:11 AM (o2lIv)

26 Good, and uh fuck Karl Rove

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 22, 2011 11:11 AM (0OJd9)

27
I far more surprised in regard to Rep. Chaffetz's announcement than Ryan's.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 22, 2011 11:11 AM (sqkOB)

28 Is that final-final?

Posted by: huerfano at August 22, 2011 11:11 AM (kD+se)

29 Very glad Chaffetz isn't challenging Hatch, btw. Chaffetz is...not a guy who I like on a personal level, but more importantly Orrin Hatch is the sole reason we have the greatest justice now on the Supreme Court, Clarence Thomas. As far as I'm concerned, until Hatch starts doing crazy shit like voting for Obamacare or Porkulus, that's some serious Lifetime Pass shit there. (To put it more soberly: he's exactly who we need chairing the Senate Judiciary Committee -- I wouldn't trust that position to anyone else in line for it, and neither should any authentic conservative who cares about the direction of the Court.)

Posted by: Jeff B. at August 22, 2011 11:11 AM (TADg9)

30 McCotter/Pataki 2016 Ohhh Yeah. Can't ya just feel the electricity in the air??

Posted by: GMB at August 22, 2011 11:12 AM (wY55N)

31 Another heartbreak for the GOP establishment. Poor Karl Rove. Will the GOP turn its lonely eyes to Christie? Let's see, global warming, yes. Second amendment, no. Yep, look for McConnell and Cornyn to plead with Christie to join the race. Otherwise, it falls to Pataki.

Posted by: Scott at August 22, 2011 11:12 AM (kl3PO)

32
Everyone knew Paul Ryan wasn't gonna run. I mean it was a 10% chance, at most.

But Chaffetz...

somebody got to him.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 22, 2011 11:12 AM (sqkOB)

33 KHAAAAAANNN!!!!

Posted by: Dave R at August 22, 2011 11:12 AM (HbC7+)

34 So this leaves as the frontrunners Romney, Perry, and Bachmann. With Christie on the horizon. Kinda like Jupiter.

Posted by: joncelli at August 22, 2011 11:12 AM (RD7QR)

35 We don't need any more candidates. We need to winnow out some of the 5% and below ones that we have now.

Posted by: Vic at August 22, 2011 11:12 AM (M9Ie6)

36 Thank you Mr. Ryan... You are right where you need to be...

Posted by: phreshone at August 22, 2011 11:13 AM (T3vCe)

37 Posted by: Sgt. York at August 22, 2011 03:09 PM (gzquD)

You are way behind the times!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 22, 2011 11:13 AM (LH6ir)

I'm glad he is not running - Perry is going to need good people in his cabinet. :-)

Posted by: Auntie Doodles at August 22, 2011 11:13 AM (25gwB)

39
Well, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I rest my case. I trust that you now see that Orrin Hatch needs to go. Thank you.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 22, 2011 11:13 AM (sqkOB)

40 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at August 22, 2011 11:13 AM (pV6cO)

Christie is not running.

To be fair, I can't run.

My moobs won't allow it.

Posted by: Chris Christie's third chin at August 22, 2011 11:14 AM (Oua8x)

42 Did he rule out VP?

Posted by: toby928™ at August 22, 2011 11:14 AM (GTbGH)

43 " McCotter/Pataki 2016 Ohhh Yeah. Can't ya just feel the electricity in the air??"

Bite your tongue. Romney/Huntsman all the way baby.

"This year, let's elect two of the same guy from the same state."

That's a damned catchy campaign slogan and you know it.

Posted by: Sgt. York at August 22, 2011 11:14 AM (gzquD)

44 Perry, the guy who pushed through a tax raise on corporate revenues?

Posted by: Texan Economist at August 22, 2011 11:14 AM (vhtNy)

45 Aight, VP then!

Perry/Ryan 2012! Bolton for Secretary of State! Tancredo for INS! Palin for energy! Ron Paul for the treasury!

Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at August 22, 2011 11:14 AM (TCyyS)

46 You keep saying, "Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure."

I think you know what those words mean.

Posted by: Indigo Montoya at August 22, 2011 11:15 AM (8Pgd/)

47 Who knew a politician could be counted on to mean what he said!

Posted by: dfbaskwill at August 22, 2011 11:15 AM (71LDo)

48 Hatch will abandon any pretend conservatism once he is re-elected for his millionth term, just like McCain.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 22, 2011 11:15 AM (4nfy2)

49 We don't need any more candidates. We need to winnow out some of the 5% and below ones that we have now.
Posted by: Vic at August 22, 2011 03:12 PM

You talkinÂ’ to me? You talkinÂ’ to me? You talkinÂ’ to me? Then who the hell else are you talkingÂ…you talking to me? Well IÂ’m the only one here. Who the fuck do you think youÂ’re talking to?

Posted by: Rick Santorum at August 22, 2011 11:15 AM (kD+se)

50 The republicans in Congress just say no to everything, they don't have a common sense plan.

I have a specific plan outline

Posted by: King Barry the Economist at August 22, 2011 11:15 AM (Y+DPZ)

51 ...and I hope Rove is pissed as hell about this. I'm losing my respect for him.

It's a past tense "lost" at this point for me.
He stopped building it when he let Bush get run down for his last 3 years without firing a shot back.
He was losing it when he went total establishment in 2010
He's lost it now; Nor more respect from me left to lose.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 22, 2011 11:15 AM (0q2P7)

52 I like this - I think Ryan has the potential to do the most good work in his current position.

Posted by: E.M. August at August 22, 2011 11:15 AM (zeBNm)

53 The youthful Mr. Ryan, age 42, can run for another 7 election cycle

Posted by: phreshone at August 22, 2011 11:16 AM (T3vCe)

54 "Posted by: Sgt. York at August 22, 2011 03:09 PM (gzquD)

You are way behind the times!"

Nah, it's just that my respect is eroding more lowly than everyone else's probably due to the fact that I've had a coupe of short conversations with him...nice guy.

Posted by: Sgt. York at August 22, 2011 11:16 AM (gzquD)

55 Ann Coulter for Press Secretary!

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 22, 2011 11:16 AM (4nfy2)

56 While I would normally be counted as part of Ryan's natural constituency, I couldn't get a lot of passion for the candidacy, now. Partly that's because I've already sold myself on Perry, of course.

My reasons are different:
1) I want him where he is. He makes a heckuva good Chairman for the Budget Committee.
2) I think he's too one-dimensional. Or, rather, I think he's too easily portrayed as one-dimensional.

But, regardless, Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 22, 2011 11:16 AM (8y9MW)

57 Ace, before you repost the Zeigler item you may want to look at the latest Gallup numbers that show Perry tied with Obama among registered voters. I suspect the only reason Romney polls better at this point is name recognition,

Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at August 22, 2011 11:16 AM (suUCk)

58 31 Another heartbreak for the GOP establishment. Poor Karl Rove. Will the GOP turn its lonely eyes to Christie? Let's see, global warming, yes. Second amendment, no. Yep, look for McConnell and Cornyn to plead with Christie to join the race. Otherwise, it falls to Pataki.

Rove really wants Romney.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 22, 2011 11:16 AM (o2lIv)

59 yep, we need to get rid of the gop old guard..........they are the problem with the party

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 22, 2011 11:16 AM (IpiZb)

60 Yeah, that's real good, Mr. Congressional Lawdog. 'CAUSE THE LAW JUST DON'T GO AROUND HERE, SAVVY?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 22, 2011 11:16 AM (2tTzd)

McCotter/Pataki 2016 Ohhh Yeah. Can't ya just feel the electricity in the air??"

Bite your tongue. Romney/Huntsman all the way baby.

"This year, let's elect two of the same guy from the same state."

That's a damned catchy campaign slogan and you know it.

Sorry, I thought we talking about a tag team wrestling match.

This is a political blog you say.

Posted by: GMB at August 22, 2011 11:17 AM (wY55N)

62 "Perry/Ryan 2012! Bolton for Secretary of State! Tancredo for INS! Palin for energy! Ron Paul for the treasury!"

I am intrigued by your reasoning and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Posted by: Sgt. York at August 22, 2011 11:17 AM (gzquD)

63 Rove really wants Romney. Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 22, 2011 03:16 PM (o2lIv) I suspect he just wants a peek at the underwear.

Posted by: joncelli at August 22, 2011 11:17 AM (RD7QR)

64 And A. West says he's staying in the House; not running for Senate.

Posted by: lu at August 22, 2011 11:18 AM (pLTLS)

65 Perry, the guy who pushed through a tax raise on corporate revenues?

Quit nouning my verbs.
Tax increase
Tax hike

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 22, 2011 11:18 AM (0q2P7)

66 >>>But Chaffetz...

>>>somebody got to him

Nah, I'm pretty sure he saw the writing on the wall when the trifecta of Hannity, Levin, AND Sarah Palin all came out forcefully to endorse Hatch.

Also, Chaffetz is rather disliked in UT GOP politics (he's a bit of a prick, to put it mildly). He would've had to make this run all on his own, without any fundraising support, against Hatch. Now it certainly could've been done -- witness Mike Lee last year -- but Bob Bennett was not very well-loved even after being around for a couple of terms, meanwhile Hatch is a giant of UT politics, and as you can see his support extends to significant elements of the Tea Party/grassroots (as seen in his list of endorsements, both nationally and in-state) as well as the establishment. It was always going to be an uphill climb, and if Chaffetz wasn't able to take him down at the convention (which he wouldn't have been able to, given the margin required to avoid a primary) he really had no shot in the primary at large.

Strategically speaking, there just wasn't a very plausible way forward to victory for Chaffetz like there was for Lee (who was able to count on a second, nearly as strong. primary candidate to help bump Bennett to THIRD at the convention, eliminating him entirely from the actual primary vote).

Posted by: Jeff B. at August 22, 2011 11:18 AM (TADg9)

67 Truffle Shuffle 2012!

Posted by: Anne Coulter at August 22, 2011 11:18 AM (Oua8x)

68 He's a great, smart guy, but, ironically, not Presidential material. Let Romney appoint him to OMB (not OMG!), or something like that.

Separately, I am getting more and more nauseated by the way they fawn over certain potential candidate-saviors at Ricochet.com

Posted by: Paris Paramus at August 22, 2011 11:19 AM (cdCC7)

69 @50 - Anyone here surprised by that? No? I didn't think so.

Of course it's going to be an outline. It'll be three lines:

1) Speechify
2) ???
3) Jobs.

And then he'll demagogue anything the Republicans actually try to do.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 22, 2011 11:19 AM (8y9MW)

jeff b.

you are on the same side as palin...........i feel faint..........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 22, 2011 11:19 AM (IpiZb)

71 Breaking: Ryan still around, Ryan Plan can still be used.

Posted by: t-bird at August 22, 2011 11:19 AM (FcR7P)

72 Good call by Ryan; he's not ready. The Oval Office may as well have a sign on the door that reads "No House Members Allowed"

Posted by: Hollowpoint at August 22, 2011 11:20 AM (SY2Kh)

73 Re: the gallup numbers, I just put up the Ziegler post, with those numbers at the top.

Posted by: ace at August 22, 2011 11:20 AM (nj1bB)

74 Perry, the guy who pushed through a tax raise on corporate revenues?

Yep, that'd be him. The guy who managed to decrease total tax liabilities for corporations (including tax-prep and accounting type expenditures) while increasing the revenue to the State.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 22, 2011 11:21 AM (8y9MW)

75 10yrs as Budget Chairman works for me

Posted by: Jean at August 22, 2011 11:21 AM (WkuV6)

76 We should have a moratorium against candidates under 50.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 22, 2011 11:22 AM (h+p7M)

77 No Republican Presidential candidate will run on the Ryan Plan.

Posted by: blaster at August 22, 2011 11:22 AM (l5dj7)

78 10yrs as Budget Chairman works for me Yep. Having him in there encourages twenty other Ryans to run. Putting him in the Cabinet just burns his star out in a few years.

Posted by: t-bird at August 22, 2011 11:22 AM (FcR7P)

79 Hatch has done some good things, but he's way to cozy with the establishment and his support for DREAM Act, bailouts, Geithner, Holder, Ted Kennedy, Fannie/Freddie, etc., far outweigh other things. This is Utah. Likely any Republican can win, so primary him with someone who's not so establishment.

Posted by: Jon in TX at August 22, 2011 11:22 AM (lRqIF)

80 The Weekly Standard:

"RyanÂ’s comments on the Republican field came one day before Texas governor Rick Perry announced his candidacy, though he was widely expected to join the race. PerryÂ’s campaign reached out to Ryan last week and, while there is no indication PerryÂ’s entry in the race had any bearing on RyanÂ’s decision, the two men plan to meet in a few weeks when they are both near Washington, D.C. Perry has called Social Security a 'Ponzi scheme' and called for reform. ThatÂ’s stronger language than Ryan typically uses but Perry is plainly willing to raise these previously untouchable issues."

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 22, 2011 11:24 AM (o2lIv)

81 Pretty much figured this. He would make a better VP or Treasury Secretary.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at August 22, 2011 11:26 AM (uVlA4)

82 I have a specific plan outline

Posted by: King Barry the Economist at August 22, 2011 03:15 PM (Y+DPZ)

1. Raise taxes

2. ????

3. More jobs

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 22, 2011 11:27 AM (TyVdY)

83 I have no problem with this. Candidates ought not pull out of their elected positions willy nilly if by staying put they can accomplish more good. Paul Ryan is one of those people; I think Chris Christie is, too.

Posted by: No Whining at August 22, 2011 11:27 AM (Wqfrr)

84 Speaker of the House Ryan. I like the sound of that. His destiny is in the House, not the presidency.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 22, 2011 11:32 AM (TyVdY)

85 I think this is a good decision by Ryan, both for himself and, most importantly, for the nation. He wasn't assured of gaining any traction, as courageous as he may have been with his Plan. But, he might have muddied the field enough (more) to make it easier for President Petulant to get re-elected (see also Palin, Sarah, if she jumps in now). By not running, he remains in the House, where he's desperately needed on fiscal issues, and if, by some cataclysmic stroke of bad luck/God's punishment/alien invasion/GOP stupidity (take your pick), the whiny little punk gets 4 more years in the White House, Ryan will have a better chance of being elected in 2016 (with the country in *much* worse shape by then) by telling the truth about fiscal matters than he will in 2012. And, he's still young enough to run an election cycle or two after that if Perry or Romney or whoever wins a second term in 2016.

Good, levelheaded move by a good, levelheaded guy.

Posted by: davidinvirginia at August 22, 2011 11:38 AM (cDatI)

86 Also, Chaffetz is rather disliked in UT GOP politics (he's a bit of a prick, to put it mildly).

On what are you basing this assertion?

Chaffetz got the biggest round of applause at the Utah Valley GOP Lincoln Dinner when he spoke. The next closest was our Lt. Gov., followed distantly by Mike Lee. Hatch was not well-received. I actually felt a little embarrassed by how cold the reception was given that Mrs. Hatch was there.

Posted by: Y-not at August 22, 2011 11:49 AM (5H6zj)

87 come on ... Perry/Ryan would be a wet dream ...

Posted by: Jeff at August 22, 2011 12:03 PM (A3tpD)

88 ACE - what about CANTOR? anything there?

Posted by: kay at August 22, 2011 12:15 PM (JBOwT)

89 I suspect the donors are pretty well committed to their candidates now. Not that they can't change their minds later, but I bet anybody getting in the race now is going to get the "Sorry, but I already told xxxx he had my support" line. Anybody without a campaign team in place now and getting in this late is only jockeying for the VP nomination.

Posted by: Idaho Spudboy at August 22, 2011 12:48 PM (1+CnU)

Ryan still has the best political statement ever uttered about the SCOAMF

'He's like a pyromaniac in a field of strawmen'

Posted by: Schwalbe : The © at August 22, 2011 01:42 PM (UU0OF)

91 I love what you guys are frequently up too. Such clever work and reporting! Keep up the terrific works guys IÂ’ve added you guys to my blogroll.

Posted by: Dick Francis’s Gamble AudioBook at August 22, 2011 04:48 PM (QCCiu)

God another piece of nonsense about the Rove-Bush-Cantor-McCain-Ryan-Rocckefeller axis of evil. Do we need these country club politboro members? Do we need these Bilderburgers telling us what is good for the average working Joe.

Throw them out, reject them. They are the natural partners and allies of the Dhimmies. Ryan is a clown. He has down nothing to stop Obamacare or Obama's budget. Exactly what makes him merit anything but our disdain?

If you love McCain, Romney, Pawlenty, you will love Ryan. Another slick talking Elmer Gantry.

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