December 10, 2011
— Open Blogger The cover for Lindsey LohanÂ’s Playboy has been leaked. ItÂ’s amazing what makeup, lighting, different camera lenses, and photoshop can do. She almost looks attractive in that photo.
ItÂ’s really a shame how far sheÂ’s fallen. And to think I used to sift through her garbage looking for discarded toothbrushes and dryer lint.
Update: DonÂ’t forget to use the Amazon Widget for your Christmas/Hannukah shopping. It helps put some money in AceÂ’s coin purse at no extra cost to you. Amazon has an aray of hobo hunting tools. I highly recommend this knife. It's cheap, dependable and sharp. It's best used for camping, skinning hobo meat, or ending arguments.
How To Get Fired From Work: Volume VII
A PA man published a fake obituary for his living mother so he could get paid bereavement time off of work.
Democrat editor Randy Bartley says he accepted the obituary in good faith after being unable to confirm the funeral arrangements at press time. He told The Derrick newspaper on Friday that the woman was very understanding.
What do all these women have in common? (Guess before you click the link)
Candidates for Nat Geo’s “Photo of the Year”. Be sure to use the drop down menu at the link to see them all. Here are some of my favorites.
Awesome New Product Available in 2012: NeverWet Super Hydrophobic Spray-on Coating:
What Really Happened to Air France Flight 447
rdbrewer linked to this in the sidebar, but it really is worth your time. It's gut wrenching to read, especially since you know the outcome.
Unlike the control yokes of a Boeing jetliner, the side sticks on an Airbus are "asynchronous"—that is, they move independently. "If the person in the right seat is pulling back on the joystick, the person in the left seat doesn't feel it," says Dr. David Esser, a professor of aeronautical science at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. "Their stick doesn't move just because the other one does, unlike the old-fashioned mechanical systems like you find in small planes, where if you turn one, the [other] one turns the same way." Robert has no idea that, despite their conversation about descending, Bonin has continued to pull back on the side stick.
Videos on the Middle East
The Israel Foreign Ministry is trying their hand at educating people on Youtube. I think these videos are well done, accurate and even handed. It's important that the Palestinian narrative be rebutted with facts. Feel free to pass these along to friends or have your children watch them.
Obligatory Cat Related Video
Tonight's ONT brought to you by Fatherhood:
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Posted by: Alex at December 10, 2011 06:35 PM (+1TUS)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 10, 2011 06:36 PM (npr0X)
Get off the drugs, the delusions of grandeur, and go back to your humble roots and you will find redemption, not only personally but professionally as well.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 10, 2011 06:36 PM (UR5vq)
You only think that your are first. It is an illusion. This is not the ONT that you are looking for.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at December 10, 2011 06:37 PM (sJTmU)
Posted by: Ranba Ral at December 10, 2011 06:41 PM (G99e4)
The transcript of Air France 447, what with the asynchronous controls, just adds to my list of reasons I'm never stepping foot on an Airbus.
yeah, RD was fixated on that. I didn't really know what that was, but now that I do, I think it seems like a bad idea.
Posted by: Ben at December 10, 2011 06:43 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: Theresa at December 10, 2011 06:46 PM (nAvCW)
Posted by: Julie at December 10, 2011 06:46 PM (rZMIU)
http://tinyurl.com/88hf5vs
Posted by: Sgt. York at December 10, 2011 06:47 PM (H3Kr3)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at December 10, 2011 06:49 PM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 10, 2011 06:49 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 10, 2011 06:49 PM (sHY5w)
They spit like a married woman, as well.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2011 06:50 PM (wkIsS)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 10, 2011 06:51 PM (npr0X)
That super hydrophobic coating is seriously awesome .
I know. I can't fucking wait. I've got a million uses for that one.
Posted by: Ben at December 10, 2011 06:51 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at December 10, 2011 06:53 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Diane Sawyer at December 10, 2011 06:53 PM (wkIsS)
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 10, 2011 06:54 PM (y6RF0)
Posted by: booger at December 10, 2011 06:54 PM (EjNp5)
I see the way you're playing with your hair. You want it, don't you, you little minx!?
Best
p.s> Can you send me some undergarments so I can determine which brand of alcohol is best for you?
Posted by: Mike at December 10, 2011 06:55 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: Zakn at December 10, 2011 06:55 PM (zyaZ1)
Posted by: tcn at December 10, 2011 06:56 PM (hQX3k)
Posted by: booger at December 10, 2011 06:56 PM (EjNp5)
That super hydrophobic coating is seriously awesome .
I know. I can't fucking wait. I've got a million uses for that one.
...That's what she said.
But how long does it last?
Posted by: befuddled at December 10, 2011 06:56 PM (xJU23)
Posted by: booger at December 10, 2011 10:54 PM (EjNp5)
I would have had her do some tasteful pissing shots...you know, real classy like.
Posted by: Bob Guccione at December 10, 2011 06:56 PM (wkIsS)
Just finished watching The Caine Mutiny
Nice to see what a good movie used to be
Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2011 06:56 PM (Y+DPZ)
Also, can we finally bury Marilyn? She was beautiful, but I'm sick to death of imitators.
Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2011 06:57 PM (F79HU)
Almost being the operative word here. I'd rather sleep with a malignant tumor than touch that.
Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at December 10, 2011 06:59 PM (TCyyS)
If she makes it to 30... I will be shocked.
It seems like celebrities on her track hit the final wall at 27
The shame is that Amy Winehouse actually had some real talent other than showing her snatch on a nightclub floor
Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2011 06:59 PM (Y+DPZ)
It was rumored that Hugh rejected the first set of picks outright and made her reshoot.
You can tell those picks(thanks Sgt York) are photoshopped. All of her skin is milky white. People don't have skin like that, only computer generated pictures do.
Posted by: Ben at December 10, 2011 06:59 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: Ed Gein at December 10, 2011 06:59 PM (y6RF0)
A USA pilot with 10,000 hrs. in a A320.
http://flightlevel390.blogspot.com/
Nothing on the site at the moment. It may be that his company will keep him on a leash. We'll see.
Posted by: Mike in CFL at December 10, 2011 07:00 PM (motsG)
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 10, 2011 07:00 PM (0Bdvc)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 10, 2011 07:00 PM (JMmQ9)
She wasn't even # 1 of the cast of Friends
Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2011 07:00 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Ed Gein at December 10, 2011 10:59 PM (y6RF0)
If you spent less time wearing her scalp like a hat you'd get it done quicker.
Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2011 07:00 PM (F79HU)
Ya know, those pics kinda suck. It's easy showing off the boobs but men want to gaze upon the Promised Land.
Let me give you an idea of what you're missing. Go to your fridge, take a handful of sandwich meat(any kind), and smush it up in your fist and drop it on the table.
Posted by: Ben at December 10, 2011 07:00 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at December 10, 2011 07:01 PM (TCyyS)
Ditto. I love TCM. Looking forward to some of the old stuff in the few weeks
Posted by: Julie at December 10, 2011 07:01 PM (rZMIU)
Posted by: steevy at December 10, 2011 07:02 PM (7WJOC)
Really? My reading was "idiot in the cockpit."
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 07:03 PM (2IW5Q)
Yeah, but it is unfair to lump them all together. The 24 year old having sex with a 17 year old is a bit different then the 32 year old with the 14 year old.
Also, where were these 24 year old teachers when I was in HS?
Posted by: Major Havok at December 10, 2011 07:04 PM (3aXbg)
She'd be attractive doggy style, while wearing a Kevlar condom.
Posted by: Random at December 10, 2011 07:04 PM (YiE0S)
yeah I'm with Splunge, with all the flights I've been on I'm sure I've been on an Airbus before, and so I think Flight 447 is more about idiot drivers rather than the plane per se
Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2011 07:05 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Ben at December 10, 2011 11:00 PM (UvdzB)
I'm out of sandwich meat.
Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2011 07:05 PM (F79HU)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2011 07:06 PM (s7mIC)
Second that emotion. The more inexperienced pilot doggedly held the stick back despite being ordered by his superior to release the controls. That having been said, I still think it's idiotic that Airbus controls are independent of each other. This crash is a good reason they shouldn't be.
Posted by: Sgt. York at December 10, 2011 07:06 PM (H3Kr3)
Screw you, Ben.
Posted by: zombie michael jackson at December 10, 2011 07:07 PM (sHY5w)
Really? My reading was "idiot in the cockpit."
It was definitely pilot error, but the whole problem arose from the fact that the other two pilots didn't know the idiot pilot had his stick pulled back the entire time.
Had the controls been synched, they would have known. If you look at the last couple of sentences, the other two pilots found out he had been holding the stick back moments before they impacted the ocean. When he told them, they immediately realized what was causing them to crash.
Posted by: Ben at December 10, 2011 07:07 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: Palandine at December 10, 2011 07:08 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 10, 2011 07:08 PM (K2yEQ)
Captain: Gentlemen, we're not going to make it
Copilot: I don't understand what when wrong, I've had the stick back the whole time.
Captain: Sacre Bleu!
Splash.
Posted by: toby928© at December 10, 2011 07:08 PM (GTbGH)
Second that emotion. The more inexperienced pilot doggedly held the stick back despite being ordered by his superior to release the controls. That having been said, I still think it's idiotic that Airbus controls are independent of each other. This crash is a good reason they shouldn't be.
Again, that's right, but had the controls been sync'ed, the other pilots would have known he was still holding the stick back. They didn't know he was doing that until he told them seconds before impact.
Posted by: Ben at December 10, 2011 07:08 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2011 11:00 PM (Y+DPZ)
Meh, Courtney Cox got too skinny.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2011 07:09 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 10, 2011 07:09 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 07:10 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: Zeus at December 10, 2011 07:10 PM (IFUWU)
If the transcribers think you're drunk, you're drunk.
Posted by: Dianna at December 10, 2011 07:11 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2011 10:50 PM (wkIsS)
That was my first guess.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 10, 2011 07:11 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Christina Hendricks's Mighty Jugs Supports Rick Perry's Hair for President at December 10, 2011 07:11 PM (TCyyS)
Posted by: Berserker at December 10, 2011 07:12 PM (FMbng)
Well...people can look really different when they make an effort. I'm always amused by just how slovenly people will go out in public
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2011 07:12 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 10, 2011 07:12 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 10, 2011 07:12 PM (4q5tP)
So, I turn on the TV to watch a bit of the Army-Navy game this afternoon, and who do I see in the broadcast booth but SCOAMF! Apparently he stayed there the whole game, I watched the first half with the TV muted so I didn't have to hear the JEF.
HE BETTER NOT BE ON THE SUPERBOWL BROADCAST THIS YEAR!
Posted by: Theresa at December 10, 2011 07:12 PM (nAvCW)
Thanks for teh knife recommendation, Swedish steel is preferable to Pakistani tin, however, we Pirates prefer a slightly different tool.
http://zapit.nu/1lS This is, of course, the trainee version.
Moron (ette)s, be sure to use Ace's link to buy.
Posted by: Pirate Pelf Lucre at December 10, 2011 07:13 PM (wN82N)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 07:13 PM (loM0R)
If Lohan starts doing Lesbian Porn, then notify me. Otherwise, meh. Perhaps what we are seeing is just her "comfortable shoes" period rather than drug abuse?Transforming herself from all American girl into Rosie O'Donnell takes a heavy toll on a girl.
Posted by: befuddled at December 10, 2011 07:14 PM (xJU23)
Posted by: Zeus at December 10, 2011 07:15 PM (IFUWU)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 10, 2011 11:13 PM (sHY5w)
I saw that also, don't remember where but not a counterjihad web site.
Bare naked Islam is unbanned by wordpress BTW.
Posted by: jake at December 10, 2011 07:16 PM (Sdl9x)
Posted by: Ben at December 10, 2011 11:00 PM (UvdzB)
------------------------------------
Suddenly, no longer hungry... or heterosexual.
Posted by: befuddled at December 10, 2011 07:17 PM (xJU23)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at December 10, 2011 07:17 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at December 10, 2011 07:17 PM (21lBC)
Oh, please, no.
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 07:18 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 07:18 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: Julie at December 10, 2011 07:19 PM (rZMIU)
About the gals, they all looked vaguely familiar, I guess they were Tiger's ex's, I guess I was pretty close.
And BTW: http://zapit.nu/SCOAMF
Posted by: Mister Money at December 10, 2011 07:19 PM (wN82N)
Posted by: toby928© at December 10, 2011 07:19 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Dianna at December 10, 2011 11:11 PM (mKMj1)
I still remember when John F'n Kerry made a speech drunk in the summer of '04. The MSM talking head cut away saying something like, "And Obviously Mr Kerry is tired after a long day of campaigning."
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2011 07:19 PM (3aXbg)
That's the first thing I wondered when I heard his first name: so, was he shouting anything in particular while he was shooting those people?The report I read was silent about that.
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 07:20 PM (2IW5Q)
Oh, please, no.
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 11:18 PM (2IW5Q)
I'm sure he felt such a strong bond with the athletes on the field, soon to be officers in our Armed Forces, that he had to be there. I have no doubt that political optics were involved.
/retch
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 10, 2011 07:20 PM (D+phB)
Posted by: XBradTC at December 10, 2011 07:20 PM (sHQ80)
I know a lot people that were messed up to an equal or greater degree at her age and they had family and friends supporting them.
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 11:18 PM (loM0R)
I'm thinking she's a victim of what Corey Feldman has been talking about.
Of course since then she's also now a felon of her own making.
Posted by: buzzion at December 10, 2011 07:20 PM (GULKT)
I'm always amused by just how slovenly people will go out in public
Are you talking to me? Because I think you're talking to me.
Posted by: L Rob in OK at December 10, 2011 07:20 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 07:20 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: Julie at December 10, 2011 07:21 PM (rZMIU)
Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2011 07:21 PM (F79HU)
http://tinyurl.com/88hf5vs
What a disappointment. I want to see the babe from Mean Girls, not some boring overphotoshopped stack of pixels of Lindsay as Marilyn.
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 10, 2011 07:21 PM (BZ6Rh)
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2011 10:50 PM (wkIsS)
That was my first guess.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 10, 2011 11:11 PM (kaalw)
Heh, me, too.
Posted by: Peaches at December 10, 2011 07:22 PM (4Do1m)
Some of them look not-bad; some of them look like Faces Of Meth. I guess it's a cross-section of society, and you can't tell just by looking.
Posted by: Zimriel at December 10, 2011 07:22 PM (6GvAC)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at December 10, 2011 07:22 PM (21lBC)
I'm seeing some good pranks in my coworkers future. Maybe 2012 won't be so bad after all.
Posted by: toby928© at December 10, 2011 07:22 PM (GTbGH)
Sentenced to 50 years, could get out in 8? WTF?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2011 07:22 PM (3aXbg)
Are you talking to me? Because I think you're talking to me.
Posted by: L Rob in OK at December 10, 2011 11:20 PM (7yvLv)
Put on real pants and a shirt with buttons, and see if it stops.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 10, 2011 07:22 PM (D+phB)
Posted by: Zimriel at December 10, 2011 07:22 PM (6GvAC)
What happens if you spray the hydrophobic inside a coffee cup?
you can find out next year when it comes on the market.
Posted by: Ben at December 10, 2011 07:23 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 07:23 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: Adam Smith's Invisible Pimp Hand at December 10, 2011 07:23 PM (tKFT6)
Low hanging fruit, yes, but surely the ONT is permitted a whack or two. Anyway, I think Lilo-bashing is motivated by the incredible potential one can see in her -- sort of like Robert Downey, Jr., in his down years. In her case, it's mostly about beauty, which I think she was gifted with in a way that exceeds all but a very few human beings. It's damn sad, really.
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 07:23 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: toby928© at December 10, 2011 11:22 PM (GTbGH)
Hate to ruin it for you, but no. What you will get, though, is a coffee cup that will never need to be washed beyond a quick rinse. You know that nasty piece of work your vile coworker has been drinking out of for years, with the stains and the crust at the bottom? Boom, gone.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 10, 2011 07:24 PM (D+phB)
Posted by: XBradTC at December 10, 2011 07:25 PM (sHQ80)
Posted by: XBradTC at December 10, 2011 11:20 PM (sHQ80)
I can't figure that out either. The excuse is that the planes computer system won't let you stall, but the planes computer system is telling you that you are stalling. Why wouldn't you take the safe bet and lower the nose as the computer is definately conflicted?
Posted by: robtr at December 10, 2011 07:25 PM (MtwBb)
I am all for bashing anyone and anything in hollywood but isn't she kind of low hanging fruit? I do not follow her closely but from the few headlines I have read it appears she was lucky to ever have any success and her parents have not only not been assets but have been liabilities seeking to capitalize on her or at her expense.
Meh, she's in the news because of the playboy shoot. So it's fair game.
Posted by: Ben at December 10, 2011 07:25 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: Zimriel at December 10, 2011 07:25 PM (6GvAC)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 10, 2011 07:26 PM (sHY5w)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 07:26 PM (loM0R)
@ 15 Sgt York
Don't know who that was, but thank you for posting. And for your service. You did a great job over at Chatel Chéhéry.
Posted by: Mister Money at December 10, 2011 07:27 PM (wN82N)
Put on real pants and a shirt with buttons, and see if it stops.
Now you sound like Mrs L Rob . . . . .
But srsly, "nice" blue jeans (not the kind that have been under too many cars) and a "real" shirt (the kind with buttons) will do it for most weekend activities here in flyover country. Nice restaurant? Nah, gotta go to the Dockers or equal.
Posted by: L Rob in OK at December 10, 2011 07:27 PM (7yvLv)
1980. UFOs. Moonbase Alpha. Moon girls in minis, tall boots, and purple hair with veddy proper British accents.
On Veetle Link
Posted by: Count de Monet at December 10, 2011 07:27 PM (4q5tP)
OK, I see that. You're acknowledging the idiocy, but saying that aircraft technology has had the right sort of idiot-proofing to mitigate it for years, so why didn't they use it? Good question.
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 07:28 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at December 10, 2011 11:25 PM (qjUnn)
Alright, what's your secret? You win $55 everytime you play the damn thing.
Posted by: robtr at December 10, 2011 07:28 PM (MtwBb)
I'm in a freaking foul mood so I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. I'm 42 and would shoot myself if I looked like Ms. Lohan.
Posted by: no sniveling at December 10, 2011 07:29 PM (K2dCQ)
I only knew who it was because the article told me (never would have said it was her just by the "photos")
Posted by: Sgt. York at December 10, 2011 07:29 PM (H3Kr3)
Now? I'd still hit it. I just wouldn't brag about it.
Posted by: XBradTC at December 10, 2011 11:25 PM (sHQ80)
Desperation is not an aphrodisiac.
Posted by: cthulhu at December 10, 2011 07:29 PM (kaalw)
Posted by: Theresa at December 10, 2011 07:29 PM (nAvCW)
That was the problem, the senior co-pilot didn't take over, he was yelling for the captain when he should have went to work. He didn't take control of the airplane which he should have, even if it means punching the junior copilot in the mouth. At that particular point it was all on the senior co-pilot and he failed.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 10, 2011 07:30 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: XBradTC at December 10, 2011 07:30 PM (sHQ80)
Oh, please, no.
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Obama was in charge of the coin toss. It was devalued when it hit the ground.
Posted by: befuddled at December 10, 2011 07:30 PM (xJU23)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 07:30 PM (loM0R)
I can't figure that out either. The excuse is that the planes computer system won't let you stall, but the planes computer system is telling you that you are stalling. Why wouldn't you take the safe bet and lower the nose as the computer is definately conflicted?
Posted by: robtr at December 10, 2011 11:25 PM (MtwBb)
The issue was that the jet, like all others, has separate flight controls. Unlike other manufacturers, Airbus' contrls aren't coordinated, linked, or otherwise attached, so you, playing the good pilot who would like to live, could hear the stall alarm and push the nose down, while I, playing the idiot who will shortly kill everyone on board, can pull back on the stick and nobody in the cockpit will know. This puts the state of the onboard computers into an "I have no idea" state, and reverts the plane to manual control. Now you have to wonder why the aircraft won't respond to your efforts to end the stall, and all I have to do is continue to panic and pull hard. Disaster by numbers.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 10, 2011 07:30 PM (D+phB)
No aspersions on JJS, but I could do that.
Step 1: Buy $500 worth of lottery tickets
Step 2: Win $55
Step 3: Post
Sort of like the wonderful story of the kid who would stand outside the racetrack, touting all 7 horses in the race, each to a different entering person. He'd collect from one of them, later.
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 07:31 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: Theresa at December 10, 2011 07:31 PM (nAvCW)
They need to say "hottest women we know in Hollywood" survey to make it accurate.
As for Jen Aniston -- did they just analyze the body?? Because her face....? Woof. I mean by celebrity standards anyway. I could name 25 hotter women than her and I don't even follow Hollywood.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 10, 2011 07:31 PM (K2yEQ)
I really don't get the Marilyn Monroe worship by anyone too young to remember her as a living person. Even among those actresses old enough to be my mother there seemed so many better choices.
Posted by: epobirs at December 10, 2011 07:32 PM (kcfmt)
Yeah, that's when Lindsay was hot...it lasted about five minutes.
Posted by: Sgt. York at December 10, 2011 07:32 PM (H3Kr3)
Posted by: buzzion at December 10, 2011 07:32 PM (GULKT)
The captain came back, and he didn't put his hands on the controls either. I can't imagine why.
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 07:33 PM (2IW5Q)
It may be, but that stupid ##What10kbuys... sure is trending.
I don't like Romney, but that bet is a stupid thing to obsess over.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 10, 2011 07:34 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: Julie at December 10, 2011 07:34 PM (rZMIU)
But srsly, "nice" blue jeans (not the kind that have been under too many cars) and a "real" shirt (the kind with buttons) will do it for most weekend activities here in flyover country. Nice restaurant? Nah, gotta go to the Dockers or equal.
Posted by: L Rob in OK at December 10, 2011 11:27 PM (7yvLv)
Wasn't trying to crack on you too hard...just tired of seeing alleged adults running around in pajamas. (Note to 'ettes: putting the word "pink" on a piece of clothing, e.g. a hoodie or sweats, does not make it acceptable for public use.) Hell, I live in Nashville. There's not a restaurant in town that won'd let you in wearing jeans and a button-down, as long as you're not wearing a hat or sneakers.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 10, 2011 07:35 PM (D+phB)
sorry to sound preachy. i think i have a thing for the underdog and she has that appearance t me.
I disagree there. I don't see a Robert Downey Jr comeback for her. She was never talented to begin with. She was a cute redhead in bubblegum-type movies. Easily replaceable.
My guess is she's dead by 30
Posted by: Ben at December 10, 2011 07:35 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 10, 2011 11:30 PM (D+phB
Yeah I guess, Only the french would build a plane where one pilot cout cancel out the other pilot without making his commands dominate. It means if the two people with controls don't agree no one is flying the damn thing and neither one of them know it.
Posted by: robtr at December 10, 2011 07:35 PM (MtwBb)
I don't like Romney, but that bet is a stupid thing to obsess over.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 10, 2011 11:34 PM (UR5vq)
Trying to make a bet during a presidential debate is a stupid thing to do too, for any amount.
Posted by: buzzion at December 10, 2011 07:35 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Dianne Spicolli at December 10, 2011 07:35 PM (OZf3C)
Posted by: eman at December 10, 2011 07:35 PM (HUEsn)
Posted by: XBradTC at December 10, 2011 07:36 PM (sHQ80)
If she makes it to 30... I will be shocked.
Evening all! Happy Caturday!
Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp at December 10, 2011 10:54 PM (qjUnn)
No fucking way. she looks older then me, damn hollywood is fucking creepy!
Posted by: lou at December 10, 2011 07:36 PM (R21xD)
What a disappointment. I want to see the babe from Mean Girls, not some boring overphotoshopped stack of pixels of Lindsay as Marilyn."
Yup. She wasn't famous for being a Marlyn look alike. She was famous for being a cute redhead.
Posted by: Ben at December 10, 2011 07:37 PM (UvdzB)
The captain came back, and he didn't put his hands on the controls either. I can't imagine why.
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 11:33 PM (2IW5Q)
Seems like he was trying to assess the situation. Hard to tell if he was in the pilot seat or not. He should have been going for it though.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 10, 2011 07:37 PM (GZitp)
No, not preachy, you raised an interesting moral issue. But the way I look at it, she's an underdog, formerly an overdog, because she did it to herself. People need morality tales like that to help them not squander their gifts as she did, whatever their background.
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 07:38 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 07:38 PM (loM0R)
He was searching for the Manual Inflation Nozzle?
Posted by: andycanuck at December 10, 2011 07:39 PM (sHY5w)
OK. But could no one see, from their vantage point, what he was doing to the stick?
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 07:39 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: Theresa's pushing the envelope on a s-s-s-s-aturday night at December 10, 2011 07:39 PM (nAvCW)
Yup. She wasn't famous for being a Marlyn look alike. She was famous for being a cute redhead.
This. I have to admit her performance in The Parent Trap was cute and endearing and also what I saw of her in Mean Girls was pretty good too.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 10, 2011 07:40 PM (UR5vq)
OK, I see that. You're acknowledging the idiocy, but saying that aircraft technology has had the right sort of idiot-proofing to mitigate it for years, so why didn't they use it? Good question.
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 11:28 PM
I thought that after the Eastern Airlines flight 401 crash in 1972 that they'd never have that happen again.
EAL 401 crashed when the pilots flying the L-1011 were trying to fix a landing gear indicator light. The captain had bumped the yoke which disengaged the autopilot, but he was leaning over to fix the bulb and not watching his panel. The copilot was still seated but his panel showed that the plane was still flying at 2,000 ft on autopilot.
The FAA and Lockheed found the mismatch and remedied that problem
Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2011 07:40 PM (Y+DPZ)
Yeah, I got it, St Pat. The posts just made me think of all the time the spousal unit has said, "Are you wearing those clothes?" as we head out of the house. Or, more likely yet, "Aren't you going to shave?". Ha!
I see way too many (mainly young) people out and about that look like they just crawled out of a laundry hamper. And sometimes out and about means at work!
Posted by: L Rob in OK at December 10, 2011 07:41 PM (7yvLv)
I'm 63 (point seven) and (thank you SCOAMF) retired "early".
I got a part time job as a software/hardware engineer.
I'm limited as to how much I can make, don't need to be PC, and have the luxury of telling management how it is.
The company I work for needs employees, but can't afford 'normal salaries'. I told my manager (in an engineering meeting) we need to find people in my situation. He agreed. Co-workers agreed.
Does anybody know how to find people like me? I've dropped out of the job market (as did 300000 others last month), but I'm now no longer locatable.
I promised my manager & co-workers I'd try to find out how to look for mini-me's. Failing that, I sense a career opportunity with the IT guy, who runs websites.
Posted by: jwb7605 at December 10, 2011 07:41 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: XBradTC at December 10, 2011 07:41 PM (sHQ80)
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 11:39 PM (2IW5Q)
Probably not but after the multiple mistakes the junior copilot already made the senior copilot should have been the only one with his hands on the controls when the captain arrived. He should have made damn sure of that.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 10, 2011 07:42 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Gran at December 10, 2011 07:42 PM (PxzSs)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 07:42 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 11:38 PM (loM0R)
That's BS IMO. If the computer is giving you a stall warning it's either broken or you are stalling. I can't beleive anyone would program a computer to give you a stall warning when you are not stalling and you could just ignore it.
Why have one then? Stall warnings mean you are stalling. Nobody has built a damn airplane that won't stall and if they did why would thay make stall warnings go off 75 frigging times? Just as a joke, just to tell you that if we let you fly this plane the way you wanted to here is what would be happening to you right now?
Bullshit.
Posted by: robtr at December 10, 2011 07:43 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: XBradTC at December 10, 2011 07:44 PM (sHQ80)
I'm 63 (point seven) and (thank you SCOAMF) retired "early".
I got a part time job as a software/hardware engineer.
I'm limited as to how much I can make, don't need to be PC, and have the luxury of telling management how it is.
The company I work for needs employees, but can't afford 'normal salaries'. I told my manager (in an engineering meeting) we need to find people in my situation. He agreed. Co-workers agreed.
Does anybody know how to find people like me? I've dropped out of the job market (as did 300000 others last month), but I'm now no longer locatable.
I promised my manager & co-workers I'd try to find out how to look for mini-me's. Failing that, I sense a career opportunity with the IT guy, who runs websites.
Well, one thing I can tell you is that back when I could only work part-time (same sort of field), searches on major job websites that would turn up hundreds of opportunities, would go nearly silent if I turned on the "part-time" flag. So maybe there's a chance for some visibility there.
Alternately, you could search through LinkedIn for vaguely inactive profiles (not currently employed).
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 07:44 PM (2IW5Q)
Anyone ever seen Ben and Mike in the same place at the same time?
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at December 10, 2011 07:44 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: jwb7605 at December 10, 2011 11:41 PM (Qxe/p)
Can employees work remotely or do they have to do office time?
Posted by: jake at December 10, 2011 07:45 PM (Sdl9x)
The NTSB investigation discovered that the autopilot had been inadvertently switched from altitude hold to CWS (Control Wheel Steering) mode in pitch. In this mode once the pilot releases pressure on the yoke the autopilot will maintain the pitch attitude selected by the pilot until he moves the yoke again. Investigators believe the autopilot switched modes when the captain accidentally leaned against the yoke while turning to speak to the flight engineer, who was sitting behind and to the right of him. The slight forward pressure on the stick would have caused the aircraft to enter a slow descent, maintained by the CWS system
The final NTSB report cited the cause of the crash as pilot error, specifically: "the failure of the flight crew to monitor the flight instruments during the final four minutes of flight, and to detect an unexpected descent soon enough to prevent impact with the ground. Preoccupation with a malfunction of the nose landing gear position indicating system distracted the crew's attention from the instruments and allowed the descent to go unnoticed.
Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2011 07:46 PM (Y+DPZ)
So is that when they decided to put a front window in the cockpit?
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 07:48 PM (2IW5Q)
the flight control conputer has two modes - normal law and alternate law. in normal law it is "impossible to stall because the computer will not let the pilot do so. in alternate law the computer overrides are disconnected and the pilot is given authority to do things the computer would normally not allow the pilot to do.
All true, but IIRC, the preliminary report mentioned some kind of pitot static or angle-of-attack fault that led the aircraft to either fly into or be flown into the stall. Both algorithms could have been working from bad or conflicted input data. Also that AF had no similar failures in their simulator curricula.
Posted by: L Rob in OK at December 10, 2011 07:48 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2011 11:46 PM (Y+DPZ)
the guy who stalled the plane in Buffalo, NY several years ago stalled it also.
inexperianced mistake from the professionals I talked to
Posted by: jake at December 10, 2011 07:49 PM (Sdl9x)
Yeah, I got it, St Pat. The posts just made me think of all the time the spousal unit has said, "Are you wearing those clothes?" as we head out of the house. Or, more likely yet, "Aren't you going to shave?". Ha!
I see way too many (mainly young) people out and about that look like they just crawled out of a laundry hamper. And sometimes out and about means at work!
Posted by: L Rob in OK at December 10, 2011 11:41 PM (7yvLv)
I see those young people applying for jobs, then wondering why they didn't get them.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 10, 2011 07:49 PM (D+phB)
Office time. At least 2 days a week. A lot of our stuff is hardware-related, with local hardware access required.
The IT guy frequently does the remote thing, but what we do is not exactly standard-issue software/hardware.
http://radiometrics.com
Posted by: jwb7605 at December 10, 2011 07:49 PM (Qxe/p)
Posted by: eman at December 10, 2011 07:50 PM (HUEsn)
Posted by: XBradTC at December 10, 2011 07:50 PM (sHQ80)
Posted by: robtr at December 10, 2011 11:43 PM (MtwBb)
well, from the article, it sounds like the airplane has a computer that will attempt to stop you from stalling, so maybe they thought the computer would just take care of the stalling part? I don't know
Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2011 07:51 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 07:51 PM (loM0R)
I've got my flannel nightgown on.
Posted by: Theresa's pushing the envelope on a s-s-s-s-aturday night at December 10, 2011 11:39 PM (nAvCW)
but does it have flowers or is it ticking striped?
(from a woman with a robe described as the worlds most perfect birth control)
Posted by: gushie really wants to post! at December 10, 2011 07:51 PM (QNeKQ)
Sometimes it doesn't last. I thought Kirsten Dunst was going to be much more attractive as an adult than her appearance in 'Interview with the Vampire' promised. Hilary Duff is another who was amazingly cute in her jailbait stage but didn't carry it forward.
Attractive but the potential seemed so much greater.
It can be a fun guessing game. Christina Ricci could have gone very differently depending on how her features matured. A while back she was in a movie 'Penelope' about a girl born with a pig-like snout for a nose. It didn't quite work because she was still really hot, snout or no.
Posted by: epobirs at December 10, 2011 07:51 PM (kcfmt)
I've got my flannel nightgown on.
Posted by: Theresa's pushing the envelope on a s-s-s-s-aturday night at December 10, 2011 11:39 PM (nAvCW) Thank you vewry much. Uh.... could you shift back just a bit?
Posted by: Theresa's chair at December 10, 2011 07:52 PM (wN82N)
Posted by: jimmuy at December 10, 2011 07:52 PM (KLVyl)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2011 07:52 PM (s7mIC)
<<Also, where were these 24 year old teachers when I was in HS?>>
I had a couple of them in middle school. They were mean to me.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at December 10, 2011 07:53 PM (o60dj)
<<Also, where were these 24 year old teachers when I was in HS?>>
I had a couple of them in middle school. They were mean to me.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at December 10, 2011 11:53 PM (o60dj)
That's because they viewed you as competition.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2011 07:54 PM (s7mIC)
I don't understand what motivated the pilot to pull back on the stick, even as the stall warning sounded, and even as he was climbing like a rocketship.
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 10, 2011 07:55 PM (BZ6Rh)
Posted by: Palerider at December 10, 2011 07:55 PM (m+nIW)
I noticed that a while back.
He's not so far out that he disses Ace, though.
IOwnTheWorld threw Glenn Beck under the bus today.
I think bloggers deserve a second chance.
Ace pissed me off a couple of times, himself.
Posted by: jwb7605 at December 10, 2011 07:56 PM (Qxe/p)
Well, that and that are disclosure laws for public health purposes in many regions.
Posted by: epobirs at December 10, 2011 07:56 PM (kcfmt)
well, from the article, it sounds like the airplane has a computer that will attempt to stop you from stalling, so maybe they thought the computer would just take care of the stalling part? I don't know
Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2011 11:51 PM (s7mIC)
I get that but you are missing my point. The COMPUTER also issues a stall warning. If you have a computer that is supposed to keep you from stalling but at the same time says YOU ARE STALLING maybe you should take the safe bet and lower the nose and pick up airspeed.
Posted by: robtr at December 10, 2011 07:56 PM (MtwBb)
<i> The transcript of Air France 447, what with the asynchronous controls, just adds to my list of reasons I'm never stepping foot on an Airbus. </i>
If it's not a Boeing, you shouldn't be going....
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 10, 2011 07:56 PM (w7K7d)
Posted by: eman at December 10, 2011 07:57 PM (HUEsn)
Posted by: andycanuck at December 10, 2011 07:59 PM (sHY5w)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 10, 2011 07:59 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: jwb7605 at December 10, 2011 11:49 PM (Qxe/p)
sorry, can't help. If peeps could work remotely that would increase the pool of potentials
Posted by: jake at December 10, 2011 08:00 PM (Sdl9x)
<i> The transcript of Air France 447, what with the asynchronous controls, just adds to my list of reasons I'm never stepping foot on an Airbus. </i>
If it's not a Boeing, you shouldn't be going....
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 10, 2011 11:56 PM (w7K7d)
My dad and neighbor are both commercial pilots and thats just how they feel. They call Airbus planes "Scarebus"
Posted by: gushie really wants to post! at December 10, 2011 08:00 PM (QNeKQ)
If it's not a Boeing, you shouldn't be going....
Posted by: Curmudgeon at December 10, 2011 11:56 PM (w7K7d)
It's not the main reason I almost always fly Southwest, but it does factor in. Mostly, 737s take off and land in other-than-perfect weather, while the little commuter jobs won't. 14 hour waits at O'Hare can be avoided by going through Midway.
Posted by: StPatrick_TN at December 10, 2011 08:00 PM (D+phB)
French Pilot: I surrender the controls to you, Sir.
French Pilot 2: No, sir, after you.
French Pilot : No, Sir, I insist.
French Pilot 3: I surrender to you both.
Posted by: Tommy Gunnarson at December 10, 2011 08:00 PM (ybA9f)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 08:01 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: lowandslow at December 10, 2011 08:02 PM (GZitp)
epobirs, we can never really know which celebs actually look like themselves. Seems they're all getting/have gotten plastic surgery. Even the extraordinarily pretty ones. In fact, I think plastic surgery has ruined some of them. Hollyweird has a bizarre idea about what is attractive and has produced some real mutants.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at December 10, 2011 08:02 PM (o60dj)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 08:03 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: robtr at December 10, 2011 08:03 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at December 10, 2011 08:03 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 10, 2011 11:52 PM (s7mIC)
I suggest you start with your physician.
Posted by: buzzion at December 10, 2011 08:05 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 11, 2011 12:03 AM (loM0R)
Except maybe the altimiter reeling off altitude and the massive turbulance caused by a several ton airplane pancaking into the ocean.
Posted by: robtr at December 10, 2011 08:06 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 10, 2011 08:06 PM (BZ6Rh)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 08:06 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 10, 2011 08:07 PM (npr0X)
Posted by: Bill D. Cat at December 11, 2011 12:07 AM (npr0X)
Never work, not enough room, a cockpit is crossbow territory only.
Posted by: robtr at December 10, 2011 08:09 PM (MtwBb)
It was at night over the Everglades.
OK. Had the altimeter been invented?
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 11:49 PM
The co-pilot's altimeter still read at 2000 ft because of the flaw, and he still thought he the plane was at altitude. They discovered they were in deep shit when the captain returned to his controls and saw that the plane had dropped to under 200 ft. The copilot's instruments still showed him at 2000, and he even started a turn to head to the east for approach to Miami. The left wingtip was the first part of the plane to dig into the mud
Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2011 08:09 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 08:09 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 08:12 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: lowandslow at December 10, 2011 08:13 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 10, 2011 08:14 PM (2oBun)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 10, 2011 08:16 PM (K2yEQ)
Posted by: eman at December 10, 2011 08:16 PM (HUEsn)
Mean Girls Ass Challenge! Lilo vs Lacey Chabert! Fight!
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 10, 2011 08:17 PM (BZ6Rh)
The co-pilot's altimeter still read at 2000 ft because of the flaw, and he still thought he the plane was at altitude. They discovered they were in deep shit when the captain returned to his controls and saw that the plane had dropped to under 200 ft. The copilot's instruments still showed him at 2000, and he even started a turn to head to the east for approach to Miami. The left wingtip was the first part of the plane to dig into the mud
Wow. That sucks. I know some pilots, but if the altimeter were sending out lies, and the artificial horizon was no help, I don't know whether they'd have gotten through that one either.
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 08:18 PM (2IW5Q)
Or on Election Day
Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2011 08:18 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead at December 10, 2011 08:18 PM (rKg9Z)
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2011 12:16 AM (HUEsn)
I didn't know that.
Posted by: robtr at December 10, 2011 08:18 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 08:20 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 10, 2011 08:20 PM (K2yEQ)
I sometimes think these new glass panels can give a pilot an information overload.
All my experience is on the military side and given the additon of mission information on top of primary flight instruments, it's damned sure an issue there. I think, and lots of human factors types would agree, that digital information is more difficult to process than analog. One to two more mental steps to decide what's going on. Lots of glass panels display PFI in numeric format rather than as a representation of an analog "dial", airspeed most prominently.
I just wanted to add that since we're posting on a "smart military blog". Heh.
Posted by: L Rob in OK at December 10, 2011 08:20 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 10, 2011 08:20 PM (2oBun)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 10, 2011 08:20 PM (K2yEQ)
Just started to watch the debate I recorded earlier.
Man,
Dianne Sawyer is a real fukko. She is a cross between Joan Cussak and your local librian
FUKK Dianne Sawyer and her unfukked pussy
Posted by: jake at December 10, 2011 08:22 PM (Sdl9x)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 10, 2011 08:22 PM (2oBun)
Actresses are trying to emulate Angelina Jolie's lips and are failing miserably.
They don't need to put the equivalent of Fix-A-Flat in the lips to make them more sensual.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 10, 2011 08:22 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: eman at December 10, 2011 08:22 PM (HUEsn)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 08:23 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: confused greenie at December 10, 2011 08:23 PM (sHY5w)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead at December 10, 2011 08:24 PM (rKg9Z)
Correction: December 10, 2011
An
article on Friday about a hearing in which members of Congress sparred
with Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. over a disputed gun-trafficking
investigation described incorrectly one of his exchanges with
Representative Darrell Issa, a Republican of California. At one point
during the Thursday hearing Mr. Holder rebuked Mr. Issa, using the
McCarthy-era phrase “Have you no shame?” Mr. Issa responded by repeating
the phrase back to Mr. Holder. It is not the case that Mr. Issa did not
respond.
Posted by: Richard Trumka at December 10, 2011 08:24 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2011 12:22 AM (HUEsn)
Heh, kind of like pilots look at stall warnings these days.
Posted by: robtr at December 10, 2011 08:24 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 10, 2011 08:25 PM (K2yEQ)
I've read that experienced pilots can tell by the pitch of the engines that something isn't right, even if the engines are not malfunctioning. The human body can also play tricks on the mind, such as turning too long which can lead the pilot to think he's still banking and compensating by banking the other way and thinking you're level. That's probably what caused JFK Jr to fly into the Atlantic
Any experienced commercial pilots lurking here? I know there's a forum for pilots that's fascinating. Even the best of them disagree like morons on a Palin thread
Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2011 08:25 PM (Y+DPZ)
Are you inebriated too?
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 11, 2011 12:23 AM (UR5vq)
not really, just pissed that our guys/gals with all their imperfections are cornholed by D. Sawyer and her pea sized brain and G. Snufflegussapuss with his Clintonian tiny pixxle
oh and ABC can suck a fart out of my butt hole
Posted by: jake at December 10, 2011 08:27 PM (Sdl9x)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 10, 2011 08:27 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: eman at December 11, 2011 12:16 AM (HUEsn)
I didn't know that.
Posted by: robtr at December 11, 2011 12:18 AM (MtwBb)
is that because they were trying to set a new record? Posted by: yankeefifth at December 11, 2011 12:20 AM
Urban Legend. The Olympic class ships of White Star had a known top speed of 22 knots and wouldn't come anywhere close to the Cunard speedsters like Mauritania and Lusitania with 30 knot top speeds
Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2011 08:29 PM (Y+DPZ)
Are you watching the teamliquid stream? What's with the crap image quality?
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 10, 2011 08:30 PM (BZ6Rh)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 08:30 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 11, 2011 12:30 AM (BZ6Rh)
because it's a feed of a feed (Korean tv with English commentary). Been like that all tourney, second stage and off stage is where the good quality is.
Quick first game
Posted by: The Dude at December 10, 2011 08:31 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: L Rob in OK at December 10, 2011 08:32 PM (7yvLv)
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 10, 2011 08:33 PM (JMmQ9)
Posted by: kbdabear at December 11, 2011 12:25 AM (Y+DPZ)
I am not a commercial pilot or even an experience private pilot. I took about 20 hours of intruction towards my private pilots license 25 years ago. At night or in clouds you only have your instruments, Pilots get vertigo or otherwise don't believe what their intruments are telling them and they die.
My intructer told me what to do when you lose an engine in a single engine plane at night.
Watch your intruments, glide down to 500' and turn on your landing light. If you don't like what you see. Turn it back off.
Posted by: robtr at December 10, 2011 08:34 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: gushie really wants to post! at December 10, 2011 08:35 PM (QNeKQ)
Interesting. Just looked up the list of Blue Riband holders on wikipedia - the Mauretania held it for 20 years!
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 10, 2011 08:37 PM (BZ6Rh)
I am, but I talk airplanes everyday. I'd rather argue politics a few hours every once and a while..
Posted by: lowandslow at December 10, 2011 08:38 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead at December 10, 2011 08:39 PM (rKg9Z)
Watch your intruments, glide down to 500' and turn on your landing light. If you don't like what you see. Turn it back off.
Posted by: robtr at December 11, 2011 12:34 AMLOL - reminds me of the sign telling you what to do in the event of a nuclear attack.
Loosen your tie, get under your desk
Put your hands behind your head. Push your head between your legs. Then kiss your ass goodbye
Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2011 08:41 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 10, 2011 08:42 PM (2oBun)
Didn't he get eaten by a giant sandworm?
No, but that was in my version of Beetlejuice.
But he was killed by Kim Jong Ill prior to Mr. Ill's attempt to blow up the world and subsequent escape into outer space.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 10, 2011 08:42 PM (UR5vq)
Didn't he get eaten by a giant sandworm?
Posted by: Mr. Wonderful at December 11, 2011 12:38 AM (sFhEw
No that was Michael Keaton, Michael Keaton, Michael Keaton
*looks around* Nope he didn't appear.
Posted by: buzzion at December 10, 2011 08:43 PM (GULKT)
I am, but I talk airplanes everyday. I'd rather argue politics a few hours every once and a while..
Posted by: lowandslow at December 11, 2011 12:38 AM
Tonight we're talking flight on a neo-political forum. I wonder what happens if you talk about Sarah Palin or Ron Paul on an airline forum
Posted by: kbdabear at December 10, 2011 08:43 PM (Y+DPZ)
Didn't he get eaten by a giant sandworm?
No, but that was in my version of Beetlejuice.
But he was killed by Kim Jong Ill prior to Mr. Ill's attempt to blow up the world and subsequent escape into outer space.
I want this movie. My whole movie-watching life has been leading up to this movie.
Posted by: Splunge at December 10, 2011 08:44 PM (2IW5Q)
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 10, 2011 08:45 PM (y6RF0)
turned it off, the debate.
Dianne Sawyer is a cement headed bitch
When I'm sober, I am totally awesome. Hey, it could happen.
Posted by: Diane Sawyer at December 10, 2011 08:46 PM (2IW5Q)
No.
Posted by: George Lucas at December 10, 2011 08:47 PM (2IW5Q)
Oh hell no. Racist.
PS: Mystery Men ruled!
Posted by: Janeane Garofalo at December 10, 2011 08:49 PM (3aXbg)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 10, 2011 08:50 PM (2oBun)
Posted by: navybrat at December 10, 2011 08:51 PM (UM07v)
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 10, 2011 08:51 PM (y6RF0)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 08:52 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 08:54 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 10, 2011 08:57 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: mildcigar at December 10, 2011 08:58 PM (VlZvE)
Shit, is Jefe already gone? I needed him to whip me up some kind of awesome painkiller. Maybe methamphetamine.
My knee is fucking killing me.
Jesus, I'm 31 and I feel like an old man.
Posted by: Robert at December 10, 2011 08:59 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 10, 2011 09:00 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Theresa at December 10, 2011 09:00 PM (nAvCW)
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 11, 2011 12:45 AM (y6RF0)
====
I hate the bastard, but he was actually good in Outside Providence. I can't think of one other thing tho. When he doesn't suck he blows.
Posted by: jc at December 10, 2011 09:01 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 09:02 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: The Dude at December 10, 2011 09:04 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: Deety at December 10, 2011 09:05 PM (Pm8ax)
My knee is fucking killing me.
Jesus, I'm 31 and I feel like an old man.
Posted by: Robert at December 11, 2011 12:59 AM (4ixH5)
were you there when we were talking about the Voltarin?
The gel can be smeared on it and theres a pill you can take with food. its an old drug and cheap. very effective. Will change your life. Dont just take my word for it. Ask Peaches.
Posted by: gushie really wants to post! at December 10, 2011 09:05 PM (QNeKQ)
Posted by: Robert at December 11, 2011 12:59 AM (4ixH5)
Well that fucking sucks, I am 59 and feel like a kid.
Oh, get off my lawn!
Posted by: robtr at December 10, 2011 09:05 PM (MtwBb)
Also, someone needs to tell the Israelis to start building bunkers now; by the time President Perry takes control, we will be ready to start the long overdue process of turning the sands of the Middle East into glass.
Lastly, allowing French pilots to fly French planes seems to be begging for trouble.
That is all.
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at December 10, 2011 09:06 PM (SsG4J)
Posted by: The War Between the Undead at December 10, 2011 09:06 PM (rKg9Z)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 10, 2011 09:08 PM (2oBun)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 10, 2011 09:10 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at December 10, 2011 09:11 PM (SsG4J)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2011 01:00 AM (bxiXv)
You have such...strong hands.
Posted by: Theresa at December 11, 2011 01:00 AM (nAvCW)
were you there when we were talking about the Voltarin?
Posted by: gushie really wants to post! at December 11, 2011 01:05 AM (QNeKQ)
Missed that thread. Never heard of Voltarin. I'm gonna be limping my ass to the store in the morning, I'll see if I can find it.
Posted by: Robert and his throbbing, fluid filled knee at December 10, 2011 09:11 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: robtr at December 11, 2011 01:05 AM (MtwBb)
But it's so nice!
A Guy hits his thirties hard, Robert. Don't worry.
Posted by: The War Between the Undead at December 11, 2011 01:06 AM (rKg9Z)
I'd be fine with that if I had a woman to hit hard along with it.
And by hit I mean make sweet, sweet love to by the fire.
Posted by: Robert and his throbbing, fluid filled knee at December 10, 2011 09:13 PM (4ixH5)
I'm sorry, sweet pea, what happened??? Did you hurt it, or is this a recurring problem for you?
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at December 10, 2011 09:13 PM (SsG4J)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 09:16 PM (loM0R)
It seems to be old age setting in. Apparently my left knee is the "looks like rain" knee, for lo, it is indeed raining.
Posted by: Robert and his throbbing, fluid filled knee at December 10, 2011 09:16 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 11, 2011 01:08 AM (2oBun)
I think "journalist" is a synonym for "crook" anyway.
Just more confirmation.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2011 01:10 AM (bxiXv)
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F.U.C.K. the Corporate Media. Someone keeps giving these assholes paychecks. It is not an accident that they are who they are. There is no point in hating on any one individual. They do what they are paid to do.
Want it to be different? You gotta cost the corporations some bucks. If the money keeps coming in, the trend will not change and it will just keep getting worse and worse.
Posted by: jc at December 10, 2011 09:16 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 11, 2011 01:16 AM (loM0R)
When making love becomes like...rubbing two sticks together...
I'm sorry, that's fucked up. I denounce myself.
Posted by: Robert and his throbbing, fluid filled knee at December 10, 2011 09:18 PM (4ixH5)
Perhaps, O Ancient One, but the fluid part isn't normal. Do you really have fluid in it?
Tell it, jc. Kind of hard to starve the damn beast, though, they are so huge now, so tied in with all aspects of life.
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at December 10, 2011 09:20 PM (SsG4J)
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 10, 2011 09:21 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 10, 2011 09:23 PM (bxiXv)
Your earlier question bugged me, too, so I did a search and found out she was America's Junior Miss in 1963.
Posted by: Theresa at December 10, 2011 09:24 PM (nAvCW)
Missed that thread. Never heard
of Voltarin. I'm gonna be limping my ass to the store in the morning,
I'll see if I can find it.
Posted by: Robert and his throbbing, fluid filled knee at December 11, 2011 01:11 AM (4ixH5)
you have to get it from a doctor. its a Nuke grade NSAID
Posted by: gushie really wants to post! at December 10, 2011 09:24 PM (QNeKQ)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 10, 2011 09:27 PM (bxiXv)
I'm watching Working Girl on FMC. It's amazing that Baldwin's skeevy greaseball character is 10 x's more likable than his real-life persona.
Carly Simon rocks. Big hair and big voice in that movie.
And yeah, Working Girl is a conservative flick.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at December 10, 2011 09:30 PM (dV45O)
Obviously, the wig and the inch-thick makeup are trying but failing to cover her drugged-out skanky hagginess.
BTW, not the first time she's played Marilyn. Check out these pics from New York mag in 2008. The ones where she's flirting through some see-through veils are quite fetching. The black-and-white look worse than mug shots.
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at December 10, 2011 09:33 PM (xqhoO)
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at December 10, 2011 09:39 PM (SsG4J)
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at December 11, 2011 01:20 AM (SsG4J)
Mmmmmm, pretty sure.
but you should definitely avoid flint
Posted by: yankeefifth at December 11, 2011 01:21 AM (loM0R)
Yeah, I don't find Michigan all that appealing.
*Rimshot*
Posted by: gushie really wants to post! at December 11, 2011 01:24 AM (QNeKQ)
Will it cause me to glow?
Posted by: Robert and his throbbing, fluid filled knee at December 10, 2011 09:45 PM (4ixH5)
Sort of puts a whole different perspective on them, doesn't it?
Posted by: Llarry at December 10, 2011 09:46 PM (7tfWs)
Posted by: jc at December 11, 2011 01:16 AM (ufJKx)
I think there's a point.
If I had a way to *effectively* get the facts out I would, we are outnumbered you may have noticed (in the MSM where people get their "information").
I keep looking. I have helped some people see, but between scummy union schoolteachers and loudmouthed lying reporters, it is an uphill battle.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2011 01:23 AM (bxiXv)
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342 Oh, and I have had a hard time costing them money myself when the [censored] GOP keeps holding their [censored] debates in MSM land with MSM hosts.
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2011 01:27 AM (bxiXv)
===============I get it. I really do. I just don't see a point in pretending any bullshit anymore. None of this is going to change as long as we keep taking it.
Posted by: jc at December 10, 2011 09:47 PM (ufJKx)
WASHINGTON (AP) -- On issues from air pollution to contraception, President Barack Obama has broken sharply with liberal activists and come down on the side of business interests and social conservatives as he moves more to the political middle for his re-election campaign.
Without a Democratic challenger who might tug him to the left, Obama is free to try to neutralize Republican efforts to tar him as a liberal ideologue by taking steps toward the political center.
.. and they call me crazy
Posted by: Jared Loughner at December 10, 2011 09:48 PM (e8kgV)
Holy shit, this girl makes Linday Lohan look like a plastic fucking retard.
Posted by: Robert and his throbbing, fluid filled knee at December 10, 2011 09:49 PM (4ixH5)
Of course, nobody wanting to see it hasn't been enough to stop Hugh Hefner for a long time.
Posted by: Genetic Tunder at December 10, 2011 09:50 PM (vQfJ3)
Holy shit, this girl makes Linday Lohan look like a plastic fucking retard.
Posted by: Robert and his throbbing, fluid filled knee at December 11, 2011 01:49 AM (4ixH5)
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So do still life paintings. That's cuz she is a plastic fucking retard.
Posted by: jc at December 10, 2011 09:51 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 10, 2011 09:51 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Theresa at December 10, 2011 09:53 PM (nAvCW)
Posted by: The Dude at December 10, 2011 09:58 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: Theresa at December 11, 2011 01:53 AM (nAvCW)
Until then, I'm gonna ogle some Lohan boobies. I think I was getting pretty good results with that.
Posted by: Robert and his throbbing, fluid filled knee at December 10, 2011 09:58 PM (4ixH5)
That explains the Keystone XL go-ahead.
Wait, what?
Posted by: Waterhouse at December 10, 2011 09:59 PM (BZ6Rh)
What will it take to get people talking again?
Must I suspend a 50 pound weight from my junk?
Posted by: Robert and his throbbing, fluid filled knee at December 10, 2011 10:19 PM (4ixH5)
Posted by: gushie really wants to post! at December 10, 2011 10:23 PM (QNeKQ)
The Cowardly Lifeclox will pounce.
Hi, Gushie!
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at December 10, 2011 10:28 PM (SsG4J)
Posted by: Robert
Well, that would help you forget about your knee pain.
Posted by: Theresa at December 10, 2011 10:30 PM (nAvCW)
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at December 10, 2011 10:31 PM (SsG4J)
A woman walks into a bar with her 5 pound Chihuahua and sits down next to this guy, who she notices is feeling a little bit queasy. A few minutes go by and the guy looks at her and blows his chunks. He looks down and sees the little dog struggling in a pool of vomit and says, "Whoa, I don't remember eating that!"
Posted by: Theresa at December 10, 2011 10:35 PM (nAvCW)
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at December 10, 2011 10:37 PM (SsG4J)
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Dark Lord,
We need a work of fiction that will have an impact as large as Dickens' A Christmas Carole. It has to be an entertaining read with a well crafted message that flies just below the radar.
Maybe one of us could be clever enough to get the media to carry a virus that will kill them and fund their own demise.
Posted by: jc at December 10, 2011 10:37 PM (ufJKx)
Posted by: The Dude at December 10, 2011 10:39 PM (M8yfa)
Posted by: Theresa at December 11, 2011 02:30 AM (nAvCW)
I'll need a chain, a plank, and as much crap as you can gather.
Posted by: Robert and his throbbing, fluid filled knee at December 10, 2011 10:39 PM (4ixH5)
The Dark Lord can do this.
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at December 10, 2011 10:41 PM (SsG4J)
Please rethink this, my son. Surely some Mastodon would help.
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at December 10, 2011 10:43 PM (SsG4J)
Please rethink this, my son. Surely some Mastodon would help.
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at December 11, 2011 02:43 AM (SsG4J)
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MissT, he's probably better off with the contraption he has in mind than having some northern elephant mangling his junk.
Posted by: jc at December 10, 2011 10:47 PM (ufJKx)
Eh, ya , you're right, we better help him find a plank.
Posted by: Tammy al' Thor at December 10, 2011 10:51 PM (SsG4J)
Pffft, I am an aircraft mechanic with only a few hours of flight time. One thing is for sure, that it was NOT pilot error, IMO.
Let me explain-
How many times in the article did they say that the control sticks were over riding each other? That they had no feed back? Well hell, it is then simply a design flaw in the system. Never, EVER should you have two inputs to a system and NEVER EVER should you have a system that attempts to understand what the two inputs are telling the system.
It is a fundamental problem that should Never be implemented in an aircraft. EVER! There should only be one input and they should be connected. Think about it, you have two pilots doing opposite things, yet one of them does not know what the other is doing. They do not even know which input the other is doing.
This problem will occur again and again and again if that control system is not changed.
Here is a fact, when in a stall, the main thing you have to do is increase speed, you do that by increasing power and by putting nose down. Why the heck would you pull back if your speed is dropping? It just does not make any sense. Never, ever let your aircraft stall. To me, it makes no sense whatsoever.
Posted by: David Kramer at December 10, 2011 11:15 PM (OkW7e)
Well, there was one moment where Mitt took up the Ron Paul argument on the Palistinians. LOL
Posted by: David Kramer at December 10, 2011 11:17 PM (OkW7e)
Posted by: David Kramer at December 10, 2011 11:20 PM (OkW7e)
Posted by: GMB who has changed his mind and now hopes for a Perry comeback at December 10, 2011 11:26 PM (wY55N)
Ouch.
Posted by: GMB who has killed the ONT at least 5 times. at December 10, 2011 11:43 PM (wY55N)
To that question I do not know, but if the system collapses, I know I am ready, are you?
Like someone stated once, civilization is a veneer, how thick is that veneer now? What happens when inevitably, with our porous borders, they actually begin to implement an actual attack?
Paul is right on soooo many things, but so wrong on soooo many others.
Time will tell.
Posted by: David Kramer at December 10, 2011 11:43 PM (OkW7e)
To that question I do not know, but if the system collapses,
I have my opinion on this and it's not very optimistic. We are very close to the point where half the country is supportingthe other half. Once we go over the point where more than half are taking and less than half are giving we half reached the point of no return.
No amount of politics or politicians can solve the problem. My maginot line is almost complete. I just need a couple of steel doors.
Posted by: GMB who has killed the ONT at least 5 times. at December 10, 2011 11:48 PM (wY55N)
Yes, it would be far better to show them old Disney flicks, like the ones that starred Bobby Driscoll.
Posted by: epobirs at December 11, 2011 12:00 AM (kcfmt)
Posted by: mike at December 11, 2011 12:11 AM (0hdwM)
Posted by: Lydia at December 11, 2011 12:48 AM (d1q/w)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at December 11, 2011 01:55 AM (bxiXv)
The Grinch munched on Willard's balls, and the liberal intelligentsia went bat shit crazy to protect their nominee for the Republican party. President's Dole and McCain agree with the NYT.
Posted by: Doctor Fish ( Posting from Mom's Computer in Texas) at December 11, 2011 03:35 AM (ndqJC)
Posted by: Vic at December 11, 2011 03:36 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: gushie wants to post so bad! at December 11, 2011 03:49 AM (QNeKQ)
Posted by: Vic at December 11, 2011 03:50 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at December 11, 2011 04:32 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at December 11, 2011 04:34 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Chuckit at December 11, 2011 04:34 AM (RfUuF)
yeah, it's funny, from upthread:
WASHINGTON (AP) -- On issues from air pollution to contraception, President Barack Obama has broken sharply with liberal activists and come down on the side of business interests and social conservatives as he moves more to the political middle for his re-election campaign.
so let's review...
Obama: I'll propose a health care scheme that includes a Trojan horse for single-payer
Liberal Moonbat Activists: THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH, WE WANT SINGLE PAYER NOW
MSM: Clearly Obama is a conservative, he is rebuffing the demands of the activist left
LOL it is to laff
Posted by: chemjeff at December 11, 2011 04:37 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Jean at December 11, 2011 04:48 AM (OfinX)
Posted by: Jean at December 11, 2011 04:53 AM (OfinX)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 11, 2011 04:53 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: Vic at December 11, 2011 08:32 AM (YdQQY)
...hit 12° out here in the early morning sticks of CLE...
Posted by: billygoat at December 11, 2011 04:54 AM (smit2)
If you missed last nights debate, Legal Insurrection has some highlight videos.
http://tinyurl.com/78zyccm
Posted by: Tami at December 11, 2011 04:55 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: mike at December 11, 2011 05:01 AM (0hdwM)
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at December 11, 2011 05:03 AM (4sQwu)
And this one might not dissolve into winter quickly, as have all the "springs" in the lands of the Prophet Muhammed.
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at December 11, 2011 05:06 AM (4sQwu)
And couldn't even get the tree decorated because the cat was intent on climbing it.
Hoping she got that out of her system...
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2011 05:09 AM (XdlcF)
Well, Natalie Wood after she washed up on shore, but anyway...
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 11, 2011 08:53 AM (niZvt)
*Snicker* Glad I had finished my coffee before I read that- could have been messy.
Posted by: museisluse at December 11, 2011 05:15 AM (4Lj43)
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at December 11, 2011 05:18 AM (4sQwu)
I did for about two minutes, between Drew and Gabes constant cheerleading for Gingrich it was worse then the fan boys in the comment section. Dave in Texas and ace tried to humor it up but for the most it wasn't anything to read.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 11, 2011 05:19 AM (GZitp)
Should have took some video and sent it to rdbrewer and CDR M. They both seem infatuated with cat videos.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 11, 2011 05:24 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: mike at December 11, 2011 05:25 AM (0hdwM)
Posted by: mike at December 11, 2011 05:30 AM (0hdwM)
Posted by: mike at December 11, 2011 05:31 AM (0hdwM)
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at December 11, 2011 05:34 AM (o60dj)
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 11, 2011 05:41 AM (UJYQt)
Posted by: Knute Romblie, scourge of libtards everywhere at December 11, 2011 05:44 AM (4sQwu)
Posted by: ontherocks at December 11, 2011 05:45 AM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 11, 2011 05:46 AM (eCnLg)
OWS: too much owed in college loans...hey, look a college class about us.
(Not safe for breakfast pic at bottom of link...might not wannna scroll down)
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2011 05:50 AM (XdlcF)
I was going to go there but I thought I'd let someone else do it.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 11, 2011 05:53 AM (GZitp)
Absolutely true. Though actually the no-return point comes just a bit before this, when a majority of voters are so addled that they vote an unvetted socialist cipher as president, and give his party (Dems) firm majorities in both houses of congress [spit].
Thanks again, 52-ers. Like the pilots who rode that Airbus down seven miles to crash into the Atlantic, your naivete and irrationality have doomed a country that could well have recovered.
Of course a huge share of the blame goes to the MFM, whose members and editors hated conservatives so much that they lied and covered for the SCOAMF--as they always to for all Dems, like Bawney, Harry, Jamie Gorelick, Holder and the whole sorry lot.
You have sown. So shall ye reap. But sadly, your actions (like Holder's in Fast and Furious) will also wind up killing a whole hellofalot of good, hard-working, innocent people.
But that won't bother you.
Posted by: sf at December 11, 2011 05:53 AM (bJsQe)
Posted by: lowandslow at December 11, 2011 05:54 AM (GZitp)
In what career will a hiring manager say "oh, you took a class in OWS!"
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 11, 2011 06:00 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Beto Ochoa at December 11, 2011 06:05 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Palerider at December 11, 2011 06:12 AM (5CusZ)
Posted by: Chris R, red in NY-9 at December 11, 2011 09:36 AM (kPudl)
Posted by: Snake Plissken at December 11, 2011 10:03 AM (4SDHr)
Or like what's in Boeing planes, even the 787. (it is FBW, but retains the traditional linkage between both yokes and wheels)
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at December 11, 2011 02:03 PM (KXXIv)
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