June 23, 2011
Rove: Democrats Will Lose The White House
— Ace I don't really believe in predictions this far in advance, but people have to fill their things up with content.
He predicts that Republicans are likely to win Republican Senate seats in North Dakota, Missouri, Montana, and Nebraska. He also sees chances for the GOP to take seats in Virginia, New Mexico and Wisconsin. A sweep would give the Republicans 54 Senate seats and make Sen. Mitch McConnell the majority leader.And in jarring news for the Democrats, he said that the GOP can "compete" and possibly take Democratic-held seats in Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Connecticut, West Virginia, and Hawaii. Additional victories in six of those would give the GOP a filibuster-proof 60-seat super majority that would effectively ice President Obama's agenda, if he's reelected, or greatly boost a GOP president.
Yeah, if we get 59, I'm going to blow a fuse over it, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
Rove says Obama's the One. Termer.
Among the obvious factors -- the economy is bad and it does not look like it's poised for V-shaped rebound any time soon -- is... well, more obvious factors.
And his health-care reform still holds its unique place as the only major piece of social legislation that became less popular after it was passed. According to yesterday's Pollster.com average of recent surveys, 38% approve of ObamaCare, while its survey average when the bill was passed in March 2010 showed that 41% approved.
And one non-obvious one:
Finally, Mr. Obama has made a strategic blunder. While he needs to raise money and organize, he decided to be a candidate this year rather than president. He has thus unnecessarily abandoned one of incumbency's great strengths, which is the opportunity to govern and distance himself from partisan politics until next spring. Instead, Team Obama has attacked potential GOP opponents and slandered Republican proposals with abandon. This is not what the public is looking for from the former apostle of hope and change.
It plays to his only strength, which is, apparently, the Job Interview Process.
The Job Doing Process, not so much.
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He got out of bed and decided to run for president?
Posted by: pep at June 23, 2011 01:05 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at June 23, 2011 01:05 PM (PgrtT)
Posted by: Shiggz at June 23, 2011 01:05 PM (mLAWK)
Posted by: God-Emperor Barky I the Magnificent at June 23, 2011 01:05 PM (IdoRk)
Jeez, Ace, you've already banned so many. Have mercy upon us.
Posted by: pep at June 23, 2011 01:07 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: BGWOBG at June 23, 2011 01:08 PM (XEwY1)
I wonder how he would answer the inevitable "what are your weaknesses?" question.
"I'm sometimes a little too reluctant to reveal my divinity."
Posted by: pep at June 23, 2011 01:09 PM (6TB1Z)
Posted by: nickless at June 23, 2011 01:09 PM (MMC8r)
If Obama wins in 2012, he'd probably resign on Election Night so he can become President-elect again.
Posted by: FireHorse at June 23, 2011 01:09 PM (jAKfY)
Posted by: MDr at June 23, 2011 01:10 PM (ucq49)
Posted by: Talibill at June 23, 2011 01:11 PM (fkiq4)
They will. The Cycles continue. Misery begets conservatism, which begets prosperity, which begets feel-good liberalism, which begets misery.
It's enough to make you go Crazy Eddie.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:12 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2011 01:13 PM (El+zA)
Yeah, if we get 59, I'm going to blow a fuse over it, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
You talking about that failed female senate candidate who dabbled in witchcraft (I forget her name...)
Poppycock.
We are slowly adding red meat conservatives, instead of quickly adding a whole gaggle of purple squishes who will betray us on entitlements and taxes and spending at a moments notice.
And yes, I celebrated Scott Browns' victory too. Yeah sue me. My hypocrisy knows no bounds.
But seriously, I think it's better to slowly over an election or two to build up a coaliton of strong fiscal cons, with a balancing act between libertarian and social cons.
Posted by: ed at June 23, 2011 01:13 PM (Y2WVW)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:14 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: joejm65 at June 23, 2011 01:15 PM (UZuc4)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 23, 2011 01:16 PM (NtTkA)
Posted by: president o'bumbles-costanza at June 23, 2011 01:16 PM (c5Nbw)
Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 01:16 PM (M9Ie6)
If it wasn't for all the executive branch agencies screwing us over, I'd support having a Dem president to keep a veto-proof Rep legislative majority focused.
Not to the point of not-voting against him, mind.
Posted by: Randy at June 23, 2011 01:17 PM (vI8R6)
It plays to his only strength, which is, apparently, the Job Interview Process.
Only if he's applying for an affirmative action position. Which apparently the POTUS position is.
Posted by: yinzer at June 23, 2011 01:18 PM (/Mla1)
Ironically, one of the best things that can happen to this White House - and Democrats - is for the Supreme Court to strike down the mandate in the healthcare bill. If the mandate goes down, the bill falls apart.
With such a ruling, the White House can rally, i.e., raise money, the base around the "outrageous activist decision", bamboozle the public that the "rightwing Court took away your healthcare!!" and, with the demise of the bill, avoid the damaging consequences that it entails.
Not sure it's enough to save the presidency. But it'll help him for sure.
Posted by: TurnYourHead&Cough at June 23, 2011 01:18 PM (GC4F/)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 23, 2011 01:18 PM (NtTkA)
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth
I wouldn't if I were you. Ace is secretly keeping a list of all those who think that 'fIrSt!' is the height of hilarity. He may use this list at a meetup to pick a commenter to use as hobo bait. Being tied up at the railroad yard for hobo hunting is no way to go out, man.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2011 01:18 PM (qaU+h)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:18 PM (GTbGH)
Daniel J. Flynn @ Human Events has a good article with 10 reasons that he believes Barky will be a one termer. From his keyboard to God's eyes.
Posted by: Cheri at June 23, 2011 01:19 PM (oiNtH)
If only there were a way to nominate a Republican who's cool and mysterious and kinda gangsta hip. I've got it - RON PAUL!
Posted by: mama winger at June 23, 2011 01:19 PM (R9bQ9)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 23, 2011 01:19 PM (AZGON)
Unless they rule it severable, in which case, the insurance industry goes down and we get our own NHS.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:20 PM (GTbGH)
I don't know what planet Karl Rove lives on, but it doesn't have any actual Jews living there. Here he is talking about the New York transplants in Florida. Has he actually spoken with any of these people? The idea that they would vote for Perry or Romney or Palin or Bachmann is just ludicrous. And a depressed turnout is a joke too. Election day is a big deal for most Jews, especially in the retirement communities in Florida.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 01:20 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 23, 2011 01:20 PM (m0NUf)
Posted by: Barry XVI at June 23, 2011 01:20 PM (2EEmX)
60 will get the Republicans a filibuster-proof majority. Although, as vic pointed out, in reality we would need more, to ensure that the Maine idiots and probably Scott Brown and a few others are counteracted.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 01:23 PM (LH6ir)
Content? Content, you say?
I'm sure there are literally dozens of 80's music videos that have yet to be posted here.
And I say that as an unashamed, unabashed enormous 80's music fan. Bring on the Abba, the Genesis, the Billy Ocean, the Simple Minds, the Duran Duran, the Buggles, the The Cure, the Lion, the Spectre General, the NRG, the Stan Bush, the Cold Slither, the JEM, the Stacey Q, the Pat Benatar, the Hall and Oates, the everything featured on Miami Vice, the Icehouse, the Quiet Riot... Bring it all on.
To get back to the actual topic, as long as the Republicans can articulate a plan (on spending, on taxes, on Libya, on foreign policy, on anything else, on unemployment, on ANWAR/gas prices) and point that the Dems don't have one, they'll do extremely well.
In summation: odds are about 50-50 right now. There's no gimme that the Republicans can't screw up, but the ball could bounce off a Democrat's shoe or something and still make it in.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 23, 2011 01:23 PM (zgHLA)
And no one is motivated to vote by opposition to Obamacare. Who can a one-issue anti-O-care voter go to? The GOP is de facto for it; they certainly won't repeal it, and they're set to railroad-nominate its second-greatest supporter. So the issue can only suppress the GOP vote. Obama could run on it and win. If I were him, I'd do it, just to be an asshole.
Unless an on-our-own-soil war against us breaks out right after the GOP convention, O can't lose.
Can't.
Posted by: oblig. at June 23, 2011 01:24 PM (xvZW9)
Posted by: Sgt. Fury at June 23, 2011 01:25 PM (LXPet)
Yeah, probably should have said 64 because I forgot the scrunt in AK.
Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 01:26 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 23, 2011 01:26 PM (agD4m)
But seriously, I think it's better to slowly over an election or two to build up a coaliton of strong fiscal cons, with a balancing act between libertarian and social cons.
Fiscal cons, social cons and foreign policy cons are three legs of the stool. We can not have too short a leg on any one, nor too long.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 01:26 PM (ujg0T)
It's still a long ways aways.
And there's still the case of an extra $1.2 Trillion dollars a year the government is spending now over and above what it was spending 3+ years ago. That money is going somewhere and I can't point to any large works projects. There's over half the country that's on the government gravy train - that's a lot of votes.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 23, 2011 01:27 PM (GKQDR)
Really? Maybe it's because the media makes sure that he receives no objective measure but he really reminds me of this guy:
Dumass and Dumass
Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 01:27 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at June 23, 2011 01:27 PM (AskuI)
as long as the Republicans can articulate a plan (on spending, on taxes, on Libya, on foreign policy, on anything else, on unemployment, on ANWAR/gas prices) and point that the Dems don't have one, they'll do extremely well.
So you are saying we need a candidate who is clean and articulate?
Posted by: WalrusRex at June 23, 2011 01:28 PM (jUZRg)
He's just some guy on TV they vaguely like from the commercials, but they don't watch his show.
But they "see" 9-10% unemployment, high gas bills, high food bills and blame - fairly or not - the President.
When things go good, the President gets the credit. When they go bad, he gets the blame.
Always been that way.
The average voter may know diddly about mandates or quantitative easing; but they know when times are good or bad.
Posted by: TurnYourHead&Cough at June 23, 2011 01:28 PM (GC4F/)
Posted by: beedubya at June 23, 2011 01:29 PM (AnTyA)
Brown ran against ObamaCare, so there may be hope. But 64 sounds like a good number to be safe.
Wouldn't it be nice if the Republicans actually played hardball within their ranks? Those "mavericks" would be less tempted to piss in our faces.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 01:30 PM (LH6ir)
I wonder how many "blue-dogs" would jump ship if we were somehow to maintain the strong numbers in the House, take 60 seats in the Senate, and gain the White House.
And if these things were to happen, all that would remain of the Democrats in DC would be pure, unadulterated, unapologetic leftism and the anger and spittle-flecked vitriol from them would make the Bush years look like a model of bipartisanship.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 23, 2011 01:30 PM (JxMoP)
I think a lot of them will just stay home. I think a big reason that Obama has to raise so much money is that there won't be the legions of volunteers that there were in 2008. Maybe they'll vote for him. Maybe they won't vote at all. Hopefully, they'll just stay home. And their lack of enthusiasm will rub off on more malleable voters.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 01:31 PM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Fortunata at June 23, 2011 01:33 PM (aNsNj)
Posted by: doug at June 23, 2011 01:33 PM (Lf1Ga)
Guiliani, I think, would win it. Pataki could if Gillibrand campaigns poorly.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 01:33 PM (T0NGe)
I wonder how many "blue-dogs" would jump ship if we were somehow to maintain the strong numbers in the House, take 60 seats in the Senate, and gain the White House.
Proably a few. I think of 1994 and its aftermath. Ben Nighthorse Campbell, Virgil Goode, the GA senator whose name escapes me.
I just don't want them becoming the New RINOs.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 01:33 PM (ujg0T)
@ 35: Here he is talking about the New York transplants in Florida
who almost CERTAINLY are double voting (absentee in NY, "live" in FL) self-loathing joooos (is that the right # of "o's"?)
Posted by: TheThinMan at June 23, 2011 01:33 PM (X6O1T)
Dunno about this guy, Ace. The Missouri senate seat up next year is currently held by a Democrat. Claire McCaskill.
Posted by: Christopher Johnson at June 23, 2011 01:34 PM (FN39A)
Yeah, I suspect that if we take the Senate by a healthy margin, the Maine sisters and SB will become much more tractable.
Posted by: Lara Flynn Boyle at June 23, 2011 01:34 PM (6TB1Z)
"Yeah, if we get 59, I'm going to blow a fuse over it, if you know what I mean, and I think you do." - Ace
Okay guys, now what kind of hobo is a "fuse" again...? Ace keeps changing his hobo labels. It's so confusing.
Posted by: chuck in st paul at June 23, 2011 01:34 PM (EhYdw)
I don't know what planet Karl Rove lives on, but it doesn't have any actual Jews living there. Here he is talking about the New York transplants in Florida. Has he actually spoken with any of these people? The idea that they would vote for Perry or Romney or Palin or Bachmann is just ludicrous. And a depressed turnout is a joke too. Election day is a big deal for most Jews, especially in the retirement communities in Florida.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 05:20 PM (LH6ir)
Sadly, this is true. The NY Jews traded one hermetically sealed, epistemically closed enclave for a warmer one.
Posted by: beedubya at June 23, 2011 01:34 PM (AnTyA)
Guiliani, I think, would win it. Pataki could if Gillibrand campaigns poorly.
Speaking of crappy RINOs.....
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 01:34 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:35 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: armadillo at June 23, 2011 01:37 PM (NLDaf)
If only there were a way to nominate a Republican who's cool and mysterious and kinda gangsta hip. I've got it - RON PAUL!
Dang, Ron-rolled again!
Posted by: Max Entropy at June 23, 2011 01:37 PM (lH6z9)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 05:31 PM (T0NGe)
Oh, hell no they won't. ...especially when polling stations are set up in the rec rooms of the condo buildings
Posted by: beedubya at June 23, 2011 01:39 PM (AnTyA)
Wouldn't it be nice if the Republicans actually played hardball within their ranks? Those "mavericks" would be less tempted to piss in our faces.
That herd needs to be thinned.... The Witches of Maine, Ms. Lindsay, et. al.
Posted by: Cheri at June 23, 2011 01:39 PM (oiNtH)
Like 2006/2005 when we had a slim majority?
36/32 and 48/32 respectively. ^They voted with the Dems more than the R's.
Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 01:39 PM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Damiano at June 23, 2011 01:42 PM (3nrx7)
A couple of big factors coming up are going to be:
1. what the Republicans do about the debt ceiling
2. what next year's budget looks like.
I want the fiscal bleeding to stop yesterday BUT if the Republicans hold strong and don't raise the debt ceiling, Obama and the media are going to blame the resulting chaos, or 'the end of the recovery' on the Republicans refusal to raise the debt ceiling.
And if the Republicans cut anywhere they realistically need to be cutting, at the very least $700 Billion, once again, the media is going to be airing story after story about how the evil Rethuglicans are taking jobs away from hard working Americans and forcing America's poorest children to eat the corpses of America's even poorer, uninsured children.
I expect the Republicans to fold on most of the issues. On the plus side, if they do fold, the media can't really fault the Republicans since Obama will have received most of what he wanted. And Obama will really own the economy going into 2012. We'll be $16 Trillion in debt by then, but.....
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 23, 2011 01:43 PM (GKQDR)
As we all know, SSG Sal Giunta, of the 173rd Airborne, was the first living recipient (2011) of the MOH who fought in Iraq/Afganistan. SFC Jared Monti, 10th Mountain Division, was KIA in Afghanistan in 2006. He was posthumously awarded the MOH by Obama in 2009. ********
Holy Christ. If we can't beat this JEF - than I guess we have earned the doom we are headed for.
Words truly fail me.
Posted by: Cheri at June 23, 2011 01:44 PM (oiNtH)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 23, 2011 01:45 PM (NtTkA)
Posted by: -QC- at June 23, 2011 01:45 PM (7AuB3)
Can't they just resubmit that bare bones budget of 2006 again to start with? The one that paid for two wars and Medicare D.
A reset, as it were.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:45 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at June 23, 2011 01:46 PM (4sQwu)
Box lunches, free smokes, free bus rides and cold hard cash will prevent that....ITYKWIMAITYD.
Posted by: Union Thugs at June 23, 2011 01:48 PM (kOtPb)
They won't stay home when their voting receipt gets them a two-for-one at the early-bird special.
And it is the easiest way to get good turnout for the Dems. You roll a bus up to Century Village and offer free coffee and donuts on the ride to the voting stations.
Sorry: my co-religionists are fucking stupid, but they aren't lazy.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 01:48 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Tina Yothers at June 23, 2011 01:48 PM (STTZD)
Like 2006/2005 when we had a slim majority?
36/32 and 48/32 respectively. ^They voted with the Dems more than the R's.
Maybe I'm being thick, but I don't understand your comment or numbers. Please elaborate.
Posted by: pep at June 23, 2011 01:49 PM (6TB1Z)
Should it happen, I would not expect it to be actually either graceful or congratulatory toward however bested him.
Of course not. It will be filled with pity-me because of all of the racist in this country hatin' on a black man. Unless Cain wins.... then what will he say?
Posted by: Cheri at June 23, 2011 01:49 PM (oiNtH)
Sabato: Democrats Will Lose The Senate
Ace, you've had a co-blogger telling you this repeatedly since November 2010.
Tester, McCaskill, Nelson are gone.
Open seats in ND and VA go to us.
The longer odds of flipping WI,MI,PA,OH,FL,NM,HI and/or MN are just that- much longer.
However, if Feinstein and Lautenberg step down for health reasons, Dems will be scrambling to fill two open seats in blue states they do NOT want the embarassment of losing, which drains funds out of the aforementioned seats. So 55-57 is very likely, a few more surprise retirements or announcements (Giuliani running against Gillibrand) and your filibuster proof majority pops into 50/50 odds.
Posted by: CAC at June 23, 2011 01:50 PM (OXDIe)
I wish I could be so optimistic. Obama is beatable, but despite the constant fuckupery, fecklessness, prolonged bad economy, massive debt, etc his approval rating has still remained relatively stable in the mid-40's.
Republicans need to do two things- come out with an economic plan that goes beyond spending proposals, and to hit Obama hard on how his policies hurt rather than help the economy. Cite health care costs related to Obamacare, regulations (don't call them "regulations" but instead something like "bureaucratic hurdles), inflation, increased oil prices and his restrictions on oil exploration, etc.
Keep it simple- Obama's policies are responsible for higher fuel prices, increasing inflation, and increased costs and restrictions on employers and economic uncertainty.
Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 23, 2011 01:50 PM (SY2Kh)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 05:45 PM (GTbGH)
But that extra $1.2 Trillion ayear is going somewhere, The media are going to find people hurt by the 'drastic Republican cuts' and air sob story after sob story. And because of the big cuts the Dems and the media will claim that there was a recovery, it was fragile, and the horrible Republican cuts derailed the recovery. It will be repeated over and over.
I'd still love to know where all that money is going. Nuclear plants, Mars missions, Earthquake machines, human clones. Nothing. Bribes to unions and lackkeys.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 23, 2011 01:51 PM (GKQDR)
Posted by: armadillo at June 23, 2011 05:37 PM (NLDaf)
The pustule living in the WH is a despicable human being. How the hell can you make a mistake like that after you were the one that pinned the medal on SSG Guinta, and embraced the parents of SFC Monti? Sure, I get that all the fuckstick does is read a teleprompter, but does he even read the damn speeches before he gives them? His wife says he's so on top of things that he gets up early every morning so he will know more than those who brief him. If he's that damn smart, even if he hadn't read the speech before he read it, he should have realized as he was reading it that the names were wrong.
Gawd, I hate that shit-for-brains more every day.
Posted by: Steph at June 23, 2011 01:52 PM (AkdC5)
That's their ACU rating based on votes for key bills in those years. A rating of < 50 means they voted with the Dems more than 50% of the time.
In some years there were Dems that had higher ratings than them.
Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 01:52 PM (M9Ie6)
Of course not. It will be filled with pity-me because of all of the racist in this country hatin' on a black man. Unless Cain wins.... then what will he say?
The Obamunist would say that the 'Toms won, and it was just the dopest shiznit.
Remember, success is not "authentic blackness". Cain is already non-black to them.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 01:52 PM (ujg0T)
Guiliani, I think, would win it. Pataki could if Gillibrand campaigns poorly.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 05:33 PM (T0NGe)
Giuliani beat her like Rihanna in Chris Brown's closet in polling all through last year. I am talking 10-15 pt leads. He would crush her, even with Obama on the top of the ticket.
Posted by: CAC at June 23, 2011 01:53 PM (OXDIe)
Then you will have the leftwitless talking heads hamming it up for all the world to see. Hanging themselves with their neckties on air, spittle soaking every camera lens in sight, running sorrowful stories about little Suzie selling her virginity for a loaf of bread and a 2002 Mazda hubcap, and breathlessly reporting on the run on 2002 Mazda hubcaps on Ebay.
Little do they know, I've already cornered the market in 2002 Mazda hubcaps.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2011 01:53 PM (ENKCw)
Going from 41 to 57 seats in four years would be an epic pendulum swing.
I'll be drunkenly pounding the pud with all the mechanical fury of an industrial robot gone berserk.
I'll have to take a week off work to recover.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:54 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: mama winger at June 23, 2011 01:55 PM (R9bQ9)
Posted by: Damiano at June 23, 2011 01:56 PM (3nrx7)
Which could give you a very strange ruling coalition of Conservative Republicans/Southern Democrats. Similar to the one Reagan patched together in 1981 to get the tax cuts through.
I don't think there are any more "conservative" Democrats in any region of the country. For example we now only have one Democrat in a major office in SC and that is Jim Clyburn. He is so far left he makes Mao look conservative.
Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 01:57 PM (M9Ie6)
Any State that would elect Moonbeam as governor is up the creek.
Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 01:59 PM (M9Ie6)
I don't see NJ, in spite of Christie, because he rode a wave that was perfectly suited for his style. The next general election will be more traditional, and a traditional crook from the Dem ranks will probably take the Senate seat.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 02:00 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: No Whining at June 23, 2011 02:01 PM (BIMql)
I don't see NJ, in spite of Christie, because he rode a wave that was perfectly suited for his style. The next general election will be more traditional, and a traditional crook from the Dem ranks will probably take the Senate seat.
But is anyone more of a lout than Frank the Lout?
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 02:04 PM (ujg0T)
Yes, but that's not what we were talking about. Filibuster-proof is different than overriding vetos.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 02:05 PM (LH6ir)
I saw Martinez, the junior cocksucker at dinner last month. He and his date (wife?) were drinking a very expensive wine.
That irritated me. He doesn't make enough money to drink $250 bottles of wine at dinner.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 02:07 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: MaxMBJ at June 23, 2011 02:07 PM (qBKEb)
LOL, Mark Warner has 8/24 rating for the last two years. But that is better than Clyburn who is 0/0.
Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 02:09 PM (M9Ie6)
Drat. Now I must hope Obama gets reelected. Cause, you know, I hate Rove that much.
Karl Rove, whose Hispandering cost the GOP a once Solid Southwest. I have no idea why he is seen as such a wunderkind.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 02:09 PM (ujg0T)
Posted by: No Whining at June 23, 2011 02:11 PM (BIMql)
My thoughts exactly. I thought he was a damn idiot. Bush won despite him and only because the Dems fielded such shitty candidates.
Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 02:12 PM (M9Ie6)
Karl Rove, whose Hispandering cost the GOP a once Solid Southwest. I have no idea why he is seen as such a wunderkind.
My thoughts exactly. I thought he was a damn idiot. Bush won despite him and only because the Dems fielded such shitty candidates.
Totally, if you will pardon my Calispeak. Once upon a time Cali and the Southwest had some kick ass GOP congresscritters as well as Uncle Ron: Laxalt, Goldwater before he got senile, and a whole contingent out of Orange County (Rohrbacher, Dornan, Gaddi Vasquez, Dannemeyer, Briggs)
Today? Cali is lost. CO, NM and NV are tossups. AZ is showing hope with Brewer, but how many of "my friends, my friends" are there electing and supporting that senile toad, his bimbo wife and slut daughter?
All because they wouldn't listen to Pete Wilson in 1994, an otherwise rather RINO guy who understood you CAN'T win a pandering contest with the Commiecrats over an underclass.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 02:17 PM (ujg0T)
I think you misunderstood CA and NJ.
I didn't say we would win them- I said the vacancies there would force Democrats to spend more in these two states and less elsewhere. Every dollar spent on X can't be spent on Y or Z.
The Democratic pool in California is very weak- its why they had Brown...and ONLY Brown, for 2010. Yeah he won, but who will the Dems run statewide for the Senate? Newsom has little support outside of San Fran and won because Abel Maldonado was a turd with no support, getting beaten worse than Whitman.
Fiorina would be a good re-run in an OPEN race, or Steve Cooley. But the Democrats have no POPULAR people to run if Feinstein retires. Nobody.
Posted by: CAC at June 23, 2011 02:25 PM (OXDIe)
"Fiorina would be a good re-run in an OPEN race"
Ack, no. Chuck DeVore should have won that primary. Carly was an empty skirt.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 02:28 PM (ujg0T)
She came as close to winning as any R would in that race thanks to Meg's implosion.
Tell me about it. I can't stand that Soviet slut, Commie Cunt, Bolshevik Bitch Boxer. Listening to her queefing is enough to make me homocidal.
Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 02:36 PM (ujg0T)
Tell me about it. I can't stand that Soviet slut, Commie Cunt, Bolshevik Bitch Boxer.
I hadn't realized you were such a softie. You love her compared to me.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 23, 2011 02:40 PM (KKNkp)
Posted by: No Whining at June 23, 2011 02:44 PM (9lUyQ)
Damn! Blast! Ohhhhh, very well. Put some Weiner across my paw.
Seriously, I had a Chicago dog kit from Chicago shipped out here just now in CO. Everyting included. Was gonna have some people over for real dogs on Sunday. Can't get a real dog here. (Sneeked in the Italian Beef kit too)
With the continued Weiner posts, now I am worried about the dog party. Looking down down at my dog and seeing Weiners face talking...a la Kramer's from Seinfeld on a roasted chicken.
Posted by: PugBoo at June 23, 2011 03:23 PM (20jXV)
Posted by: elliot m at June 23, 2011 04:13 PM (zPich)
If this thing isn't repealed, and Obama somehow manages to sneak in another term by having the media claim that Rick Perry has Palin's womb locked in his basement turning out right wing drones 24/7, then we are going to look back on Obama's first term as the good old days.
Posted by: Voluble at June 23, 2011 04:15 PM (JKX4x)
Posted by: Gucci Hobo at June 23, 2011 07:14 PM (cpw4F)
They will. They're not called the Stupid Party for nothing.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at June 23, 2011 09:19 PM (Y1gzX)
As long as she continues running for a federal office, she can pay herself a salary from her leftover campaign fund, which was over $1 million. It's perfectly legal - only sitting federal officers cannot do this. She doesn't have to spend all the money campaigning, as long as she's a candidate - in fact she can just spend what new money she can manage to raise from the suckers who sent her cash last time.
Posted by: Adjoran at June 23, 2011 09:42 PM (VfmLu)
Posted by: Spurwing Plover at June 24, 2011 07:38 AM (vA9ld)
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