June 23, 2011

Sabato: Democrats Will Lose The Senate
Rove: Democrats Will Lose The White House

— Ace

I don't really believe in predictions this far in advance, but people have to fill their things up with content.

He predicts that Republicans are likely to win Republican Senate seats in North Dakota, Missouri, Montana, and Nebraska. He also sees chances for the GOP to take seats in Virginia, New Mexico and Wisconsin. A sweep would give the Republicans 54 Senate seats and make Sen. Mitch McConnell the majority leader.

And in jarring news for the Democrats, he said that the GOP can "compete" and possibly take Democratic-held seats in Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Connecticut, West Virginia, and Hawaii. Additional victories in six of those would give the GOP a filibuster-proof 60-seat super majority that would effectively ice President Obama's agenda, if he's reelected, or greatly boost a GOP president.

Yeah, if we get 59, I'm going to blow a fuse over it, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.

Rove says Obama's the One. Termer.

Among the obvious factors -- the economy is bad and it does not look like it's poised for V-shaped rebound any time soon -- is... well, more obvious factors.

And his health-care reform still holds its unique place as the only major piece of social legislation that became less popular after it was passed. According to yesterday's Pollster.com average of recent surveys, 38% approve of ObamaCare, while its survey average when the bill was passed in March 2010 showed that 41% approved.

And one non-obvious one:

Finally, Mr. Obama has made a strategic blunder. While he needs to raise money and organize, he decided to be a candidate this year rather than president. He has thus unnecessarily abandoned one of incumbency's great strengths, which is the opportunity to govern and distance himself from partisan politics until next spring. Instead, Team Obama has attacked potential GOP opponents and slandered Republican proposals with abandon. This is not what the public is looking for from the former apostle of hope and change.

It plays to his only strength, which is, apparently, the Job Interview Process.

The Job Doing Process, not so much.

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1 Let's hope the Reps don't blow it if they do hit the trifecta

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at June 23, 2011 01:05 PM (PgrtT)

2 Finally, Mr. Obama has made a strategic blunder.

He got out of bed and decided to run for president?

Posted by: pep at June 23, 2011 01:05 PM (6TB1Z)

3 What! Wait!? I was supposed to say "First"?  Dang it, man!

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at June 23, 2011 01:05 PM (PgrtT)

4 This is one time an unemployed black man will be good for America.

Posted by: Shiggz at June 23, 2011 01:05 PM (mLAWK)

5 Actually, I'm also quite good at sleeping for 16 hours on no-brainer decisions.

Posted by: God-Emperor Barky I the Magnificent at June 23, 2011 01:05 PM (IdoRk)

6 Ahh..the ONcE

Posted by: TheThinMan at June 23, 2011 01:06 PM (X6O1T)

7 Yeah, if we get 59, I'm going to blow a fuse over it, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.

Jeez, Ace, you've already banned so many.  Have mercy upon us.

Posted by: pep at June 23, 2011 01:07 PM (6TB1Z)

8 If we get to 60, I wonder how many RINOS will vote with the commiecrats on important legislation.

Posted by: BGWOBG at June 23, 2011 01:08 PM (XEwY1)

9 It plays to his only strength, which is, apparently, the Job Interview Process.

I wonder how he would answer the inevitable "what are your weaknesses?" question. 

"I'm sometimes a little too reluctant to reveal my divinity."

Posted by: pep at June 23, 2011 01:09 PM (6TB1Z)

10 What are our chances of electing Republicans in Maine?

Posted by: nickless at June 23, 2011 01:09 PM (MMC8r)

11

If Obama wins in 2012, he'd probably resign on Election Night so he can become President-elect again.

Posted by: FireHorse at June 23, 2011 01:09 PM (jAKfY)

12 The only reason this election will be even close, is because of the Dims' successful effort toward making Americans' dependent, on big government.  Over 1/2 of the households pay NO income tax.  Yet, they reap 3/4 of the goodies.  mmm mmm mmm

Posted by: MDr at June 23, 2011 01:10 PM (ucq49)

13 Blow a fuse? I'll shit my pants and spontaniously combust.

Posted by: Talibill at June 23, 2011 01:11 PM (fkiq4)

14 If we last that long.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 23, 2011 01:11 PM (NtTkA)

15 Let's hope the Reps don't blow it if they do hit the trifecta

They will.  The Cycles continue.  Misery begets conservatism, which begets prosperity, which begets feel-good liberalism, which begets misery.

It's enough to make you go Crazy Eddie.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:12 PM (GTbGH)

16 Ace,

Can I have your number?

Posted by: A fuse at June 23, 2011 01:12 PM (LH6ir)

17 We elected an evil George Costanza president.

Posted by: steevy at June 23, 2011 01:13 PM (El+zA)

18

Yeah, if we get 59, I'm going to blow a fuse over it, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.

You talking about that failed female senate candidate who dabbled in witchcraft (I forget her name...)

Poppycock.

We are slowly adding red meat conservatives, instead of quickly adding a whole gaggle of purple squishes who will betray us on entitlements and taxes and spending at a moments notice.

And yes, I celebrated Scott Browns' victory too.  Yeah sue me.  My hypocrisy knows no bounds.

But seriously, I think it's better to slowly over an election or two to build up a coaliton of strong fiscal cons, with a balancing act between libertarian and social cons.

Posted by: ed at June 23, 2011 01:13 PM (Y2WVW)

19 And no way we can take 60 Senate seats and Barry be reelected.  That's just crazy talk.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:14 PM (GTbGH)

20 A Republican might win Joe Lieberman's Senate seat in CT?  Yeah, right....

Posted by: joejm65 at June 23, 2011 01:15 PM (UZuc4)

21 Now if only Dick Morris would weigh in...

Posted by: Johnny at June 23, 2011 01:15 PM (mhmc7)

22 21 He reminds me of the Cheshire cat with brown teeth.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 23, 2011 01:16 PM (NtTkA)

23 But I'm busy working on the Penske file!

Posted by: president o'bumbles-costanza at June 23, 2011 01:16 PM (c5Nbw)

24 60 is not the magic number. We need at least 63 and that is simply not going to happen.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 01:16 PM (M9Ie6)

25

If it wasn't for all the executive branch agencies screwing us over, I'd support having a Dem president to keep a veto-proof Rep legislative majority focused.

Not to the point of not-voting against him, mind.

Posted by: Randy at June 23, 2011 01:17 PM (vI8R6)

26

It plays to his only strength, which is, apparently, the Job Interview Process.

Only if he's applying for an affirmative action position.  Which apparently the POTUS position is.

Posted by: yinzer at June 23, 2011 01:18 PM (/Mla1)

27

Ironically, one of the best things that can happen to this White House - and Democrats - is for the Supreme Court to strike down the mandate in the healthcare bill. If the mandate goes down, the bill falls apart.

With such a ruling, the White House can rally, i.e., raise money, the base around the "outrageous activist decision", bamboozle the public that the "rightwing Court took away your healthcare!!" and, with the demise of the bill, avoid the damaging consequences that it entails.

Not sure it's enough to save the presidency. But it'll help him for sure.

Posted by: TurnYourHead&Cough at June 23, 2011 01:18 PM (GC4F/)

28 24, Can you imagine giving the Maine twins that much power?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 23, 2011 01:18 PM (NtTkA)

29 I was supposed to say "First"?  Dang it, man!
Posted by: Quilly Mammoth

I wouldn't if I were you. Ace is secretly keeping a list of all those who think that 'fIrSt!' is the height of hilarity. He may use this list at a meetup to pick a commenter to use as hobo bait. Being tied up at the railroad yard for hobo hunting is no way to go out, man.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at June 23, 2011 01:18 PM (qaU+h)

30 I was thinking that taking the Senate was a given.  We need what, two seats?

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:18 PM (GTbGH)

31

Daniel J. Flynn @ Human Events has a good article with 10 reasons that he believes Barky will be a one termer.  From his keyboard to God's eyes.

http://tinyurl.com/3q6qkqj


 

Posted by: Cheri at June 23, 2011 01:19 PM (oiNtH)

32 The Obama Mystique will be much much less a factor this time around.  The novelty has worn off.  Now it's the more traditional problem of going up against the incumbent and his Royal Court, aka the MSM.

If only there were a way to nominate a Republican who's cool and mysterious and kinda gangsta hip.  I've got it - RON PAUL!

Posted by: mama winger at June 23, 2011 01:19 PM (R9bQ9)

33 Rove: Unemployment is at 9.1%, with almost 14 million Americans out of work. Nearly half the jobless have been without work for more than six months. Mr. Obama promised much better, declaring that his February 2009 stimulus would cause unemployment to peak at 8% by the end of summer 2009 and drop to roughly 6.8% today. Hammer on this relentlessly, day after day. It's an indisputable empirical measure of his effectiveness, and he has proven to be a complete failure.

Posted by: George Orwell at June 23, 2011 01:19 PM (AZGON)

34 Ironically, one of the best things that can happen to this White House - and Democrats - is for the Supreme Court to strike down the mandate in the healthcare bill. If the mandate goes down, the bill falls apart.

Unless they rule it severable, in which case, the insurance industry goes down and we get our own NHS.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:20 PM (GTbGH)

35 "Weak Jewish support could significantly narrow Mr. Obama's margin in states like Florida..."

I don't know what planet Karl Rove lives on, but it doesn't have any actual Jews living there. Here he is talking about the New York transplants in Florida. Has he actually spoken with any of these people? The idea that they would vote for Perry or Romney or Palin or Bachmann is just ludicrous. And a depressed turnout is a joke too. Election day is a big deal for most Jews, especially in the retirement communities in Florida.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 01:20 PM (LH6ir)

36 Eventually we will need democrats to start voting in a way that comports with popular will. Only then will we have total victory. (at least for a while)

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 23, 2011 01:20 PM (m0NUf)

37 I have a campaign war-chest of 727 million barrels. What do you got?

Posted by: Barry XVI at June 23, 2011 01:20 PM (2EEmX)

38

We must De-Demunize

We must De-Communize

 

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 01:22 PM (ujg0T)

39 Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 05:18 PM (GTbGH)

60 will get the Republicans a filibuster-proof majority. Although, as vic pointed out, in reality we would need more, to ensure that the Maine idiots and probably Scott Brown and a few others are counteracted.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 01:23 PM (LH6ir)

40

Content?  Content, you say? 

I'm sure there are literally dozens of 80's music videos that have yet to be posted here.

And I say that as an unashamed, unabashed enormous 80's music fan.  Bring on the Abba, the Genesis, the Billy Ocean, the Simple Minds, the Duran Duran, the Buggles, the The Cure, the Lion, the Spectre General, the NRG, the Stan Bush, the Cold Slither, the JEM, the Stacey Q, the Pat Benatar, the Hall and Oates, the everything featured on Miami Vice, the Icehouse, the Quiet Riot... Bring it all on.

To get back to the actual topic, as long as the Republicans can articulate a plan (on spending, on taxes, on Libya, on foreign policy, on anything else, on unemployment, on ANWAR/gas prices) and point that the Dems don't have one, they'll do extremely well.

In summation:  odds are about 50-50 right now.  There's no gimme that the Republicans can't screw up, but the ball could bounce off a Democrat's shoe or something and still make it in.

 

Posted by: Lance McCormick at June 23, 2011 01:23 PM (zgHLA)

41 Rove's unspoken (because it's stupid) premise is that people have any idea what Obama's doing. They don't. He's just some guy on TV they vaguely like from the commercials, but they don't watch his show.

And no one is motivated to vote by opposition to Obamacare. Who can a one-issue anti-O-care voter go to? The GOP is de facto for it; they certainly won't repeal it, and they're set to railroad-nominate its second-greatest supporter. So the issue can only suppress the GOP vote. Obama could run on it and win. If I were him, I'd do it, just to be an asshole.

Unless an on-our-own-soil war against us breaks out right after the GOP convention, O can't lose.

Can't.

Posted by: oblig. at June 23, 2011 01:24 PM (xvZW9)

42 I want The JEF to lose and lose badly on election night. I want all of his sycophants (including my libtard sister) to wail in despair. Because I'm hateful like that.

Posted by: Sgt. Fury at June 23, 2011 01:25 PM (LXPet)

43 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 05:23 PM (LH6ir)

Yeah, probably should have said 64 because I forgot the scrunt in AK.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 01:26 PM (M9Ie6)

44 That's a hot mess at @41.  Not even B- level analysis.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at June 23, 2011 01:26 PM (agD4m)

45 Posted by: oblig. at June 23, 2011 05:24 PM (xvZW9)

Is this a sock?

I hope so.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 01:26 PM (LH6ir)

46

But seriously, I think it's better to slowly over an election or two to build up a coaliton of strong fiscal cons, with a balancing act between libertarian and social cons.

Fiscal cons, social cons and foreign policy cons are three legs of the stool. We can not have too short a leg on any one, nor too long.

 

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 01:26 PM (ujg0T)

47

It's still a long ways aways.

And there's still the case of an extra $1.2 Trillion dollars a year the government is spending now over and above what it was spending 3+ years ago. That money is going somewhere and I can't point to any large works projects. There's over half the country that's on the government gravy train - that's a lot of votes.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 23, 2011 01:27 PM (GKQDR)

48 It plays to his only strength, which is, apparently, the Job Interview Process.

Really?  Maybe it's because the media makes sure that he receives no objective measure but he really reminds me of this guy:
Dumass and Dumass

Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 01:27 PM (T0NGe)

49 And they get paid for this.....  Anyone here could have told  you the same thing for free.

Posted by: Vashta.Nerada at June 23, 2011 01:27 PM (AskuI)

50

as long as the Republicans can articulate a plan (on spending, on taxes, on Libya, on foreign policy, on anything else, on unemployment, on ANWAR/gas prices) and point that the Dems don't have one, they'll do extremely well.

So you are saying we need a candidate who is clean and articulate?

Posted by: WalrusRex at June 23, 2011 01:28 PM (jUZRg)

51

He's just some guy on TV they vaguely like from the commercials, but they don't watch his show.

But they "see" 9-10% unemployment, high gas bills, high food bills and blame - fairly or not - the President.

When things go good, the President gets the credit. When they go bad, he gets the blame.

Always been that way.

The average voter may know diddly about mandates or quantitative easing; but they know when times are good or bad.

Posted by: TurnYourHead&Cough at June 23, 2011 01:28 PM (GC4F/)

52 lets just hope we can get a Republican senator in Mass in 2012

Posted by: beedubya at June 23, 2011 01:29 PM (AnTyA)

53 Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 05:26 PM (M9Ie6)

Brown ran against ObamaCare, so there may be hope. But 64 sounds like a good number to be safe.

Wouldn't it be nice if the Republicans actually played hardball within their ranks? Those "mavericks" would be less tempted to piss in our faces.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 01:30 PM (LH6ir)

54

I wonder how many "blue-dogs" would jump ship if we were somehow to maintain the strong numbers in the House, take 60 seats in the Senate, and gain the White House.

And if these things were to happen, all that would remain of the Democrats in DC would be pure, unadulterated, unapologetic leftism and the anger and spittle-flecked vitriol from them would make the Bush years look like a model of bipartisanship.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 23, 2011 01:30 PM (JxMoP)

55

Note to self:

Self, buy pudding futures.

Posted by: Max Entropy at June 23, 2011 01:31 PM (lH6z9)

56 The idea that they would vote for Perry or Romney or Palin or Bachmann is just ludicrous.

I think a lot of them will just stay home.  I think a big reason that Obama has to raise so much money is that there won't be the legions of volunteers that there were in 2008. Maybe they'll vote for him.  Maybe they won't vote at all.  Hopefully, they'll just stay home.  And their lack of enthusiasm will rub off on more malleable voters.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 01:31 PM (T0NGe)

57 Oh Ace, is this anything more than a silly lotus-eating dream. Can we ever be truly heppy, dahling?

Posted by: Fortunata at June 23, 2011 01:33 PM (aNsNj)

58 It really bugs me to have to cheer for a fillibuster-proof majority for republicans in the senate.  But it *must* happen.  Obama care has do die or the nation is doomed.  Likely it is doomed anyway, but killing Obama care would be nice even so.

Posted by: doug at June 23, 2011 01:33 PM (Lf1Ga)

59 One additional note for the pie-in-the-sky Senate seats: New York.

Guiliani, I think, would win it.  Pataki could if Gillibrand campaigns poorly.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 01:33 PM (T0NGe)

60

I wonder how many "blue-dogs" would jump ship if we were somehow to maintain the strong numbers in the House, take 60 seats in the Senate, and gain the White House.

Proably a few. I think of 1994 and its aftermath. Ben Nighthorse Campbell, Virgil Goode, the GA senator whose name escapes me.

I just don't want them becoming the New RINOs.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 01:33 PM (ujg0T)

61

@ 35: Here he is talking about the New York transplants in Florida

who almost CERTAINLY are double voting (absentee in NY, "live" in FL) self-loathing joooos (is that the right # of "o's"?)

Posted by: TheThinMan at June 23, 2011 01:33 PM (X6O1T)

62

Dunno about this guy, Ace.  The Missouri senate seat up next year is currently held by a Democrat.  Claire McCaskill.

Posted by: Christopher Johnson at June 23, 2011 01:34 PM (FN39A)

63 60 will get the Republicans a filibuster-proof majority. Although, as vic pointed out, in reality we would need more, to ensure that the Maine idiots and probably Scott Brown and a few others are counteracted.


Yeah, I suspect that if we take the Senate by a healthy margin, the Maine sisters and SB will become much more tractable.

Posted by: Lara Flynn Boyle at June 23, 2011 01:34 PM (6TB1Z)

64

"Yeah, if we get 59, I'm going to blow a fuse over it, if you know what I mean, and I think you do." - Ace

Okay guys, now what kind of hobo is a "fuse" again...? Ace keeps changing his hobo labels. It's so confusing.

Posted by: chuck in st paul at June 23, 2011 01:34 PM (EhYdw)

65
I don't know what planet Karl Rove lives on, but it doesn't have any actual Jews living there. Here he is talking about the New York transplants in Florida. Has he actually spoken with any of these people? The idea that they would vote for Perry or Romney or Palin or Bachmann is just ludicrous. And a depressed turnout is a joke too. Election day is a big deal for most Jews, especially in the retirement communities in Florida.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 05:20 PM (LH6ir)


Sadly, this is true. The NY Jews traded one hermetically sealed, epistemically closed enclave for a warmer one.

Posted by: beedubya at June 23, 2011 01:34 PM (AnTyA)

66

Guiliani, I think, would win it.  Pataki could if Gillibrand campaigns poorly.

Speaking of crappy RINOs.....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 01:34 PM (ujg0T)

67 64 seems like an impossible task.  Since we got the 50th state the Democrats have had up to 68 but the Republicans have never gone over 57.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:35 PM (GTbGH)

68 and we hit a low of 32 in 65-67

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:36 PM (GTbGH)

69 O/T via Blackfive: ********* The President addressing the 10th Mountain Division today at Fort Drum: "First time I saw 10th Mountain Division, you guys were in southern Iraq. When I went back to visit Afghanistan, you guys were the first ones there. I had the great honor of seeing some of you because a comrade of yours, Jared Monti, was the first person who I was able to award the Medal of Honor to who actually came back and wasnÂ’t receiving it posthumously." As we all know, SSG Sal Giunta, of the 173rd Airborne, was the first living recipient (2011) of the MOH who fought in Iraq/Afganistan. SFC Jared Monti, 10th Mountain Division, was KIA in Afghanistan in 2006. He was posthumously awarded the MOH by Obama in 2009. ******** http://www.blackfive.net/main/2011/06/president-obamas-terrible-mistake.html

Posted by: armadillo at June 23, 2011 01:37 PM (NLDaf)

70 32 The Obama Mystique will be much much less a factor this time around.  The novelty has worn off.  Now it's the more traditional problem of going up against the incumbent and his Royal Court, aka the MSM.

If only there were a way to nominate a Republican who's cool and mysterious and kinda gangsta hip.  I've got it - RON PAUL!
  Dang, Ron-rolled again!

Posted by: Max Entropy at June 23, 2011 01:37 PM (lH6z9)

71 I think a lot of them will just stay home. ...(FL transplanted NY Jews)

Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 05:31 PM (T0NGe)

Oh, hell no they won't. ...especially when polling stations are set up in the rec rooms of the condo buildings

Posted by: beedubya at June 23, 2011 01:39 PM (AnTyA)

72

Wouldn't it be nice if the Republicans actually played hardball within their ranks? Those "mavericks" would be less tempted to piss in our faces.

That herd needs to be thinned....  The Witches of Maine, Ms. Lindsay, et. al.

 

Posted by: Cheri at June 23, 2011 01:39 PM (oiNtH)

73 Yeah, I suspect that if we take the Senate by a healthy margin, the Maine sisters and SB will become much more tractable.

Like 2006/2005 when we had a slim majority?

36/32 and 48/32 respectively. ^They voted with the Dems more than the R's.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 01:39 PM (M9Ie6)

74 IMO, if we truly want to make an attempt at forestalling or *gasp* turning around our impending Doom, our focus needs to be on expanding our majority in the House (while getting rid of at least some of the trash through primaries) and flipping the Senate firmly into the R camp. Let's assume a yet to be identified Generic Republican decends from the heavens and opens up a can of Reaganesque whoop ass on Chitown Jesus, resulting in an epic landslide election. Without significant housecleaning and gains in Congress, we end up with the equivalent of seeing President Thor winning the Special Olympics; we won but we're still retarded... and complelely boned. Presidents are entertaining and occasionally useful, but have absolutely no means to write, pass, or repeal laws. Setting aside the unlikely possibility of gaining President Thor McTeaparty in Nov.2012, IMO, no matter which one of the current clowns becomes our Great Last Hope for the top of the ticket, it is meaningless if we still end up with Dingy Harry refusing to allow a vote on anything that does not revolve exclusively around funding Cowboy Poetry Unions.

Posted by: Damiano at June 23, 2011 01:42 PM (3nrx7)

75

A couple of big factors coming up are going to be:

1. what the Republicans do about the debt ceiling

2. what next year's budget looks like.

I want the fiscal bleeding to stop yesterday BUT if the Republicans hold strong and don't raise the debt ceiling, Obama and the media are going to blame the resulting chaos, or 'the end of the recovery' on the Republicans refusal to raise the debt ceiling.

And if the Republicans cut anywhere they realistically need to be cutting, at the very least $700 Billion, once again, the media is going to be airing story after story about how the evil Rethuglicans are taking jobs away from hard working Americans and forcing America's poorest children to eat the corpses of America's even poorer, uninsured children.

I expect the Republicans to fold on most of the issues. On the plus side, if they do fold, the media can't really fault the Republicans since Obama will have received most of what he wanted. And Obama will really own the economy going into 2012. We'll be $16 Trillion in debt by then, but.....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 23, 2011 01:43 PM (GKQDR)

76

As we all know, SSG Sal Giunta, of the 173rd Airborne, was the first living recipient (2011) of the MOH who fought in Iraq/Afganistan. SFC Jared Monti, 10th Mountain Division, was KIA in Afghanistan in 2006. He was posthumously awarded the MOH by Obama in 2009. ********

Holy Christ.  If we can't beat this JEF - than I guess we have earned the doom we are headed for.

Words truly fail me.

Posted by: Cheri at June 23, 2011 01:44 PM (oiNtH)

77 69, What a completly detached chunk of crap. What an insult to fighting men and women everywhere. If it gets ugly they will all know which way to point their weapons.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 23, 2011 01:45 PM (NtTkA)

78 I have to delurk to say thank you to Ace and the Morons. You help keep me sane in dark times.

Posted by: -QC- at June 23, 2011 01:45 PM (7AuB3)

79 And if the Republicans cut anywhere they realistically need to be cutting, at the very least $700 Billion, once again, the media is going to be airing story after story about how the evil Rethuglicans are taking jobs away from hard working Americans and forcing America's poorest children to eat the corpses of America's even poorer, uninsured children.

Can't they just resubmit that bare bones budget of 2006 again to start with?  The one that paid for two wars and Medicare D.  

A reset, as it were.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:45 PM (GTbGH)

80 I will relish the JEF's concession speech. 

Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at June 23, 2011 01:46 PM (4sQwu)

81 Yeah, if we get 59, I'm going to blow a fuse over it, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.

Box lunches, free smokes, free bus rides and cold hard cash will prevent that....ITYKWIMAITYD. 

Posted by: Union Thugs at June 23, 2011 01:48 PM (kOtPb)

82 Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 05:31 PM (T0NGe)

They won't stay home when their voting receipt gets them a two-for-one at the early-bird special.

And it is the easiest way to get good turnout for the Dems. You roll a bus up to Century Village and offer free coffee and donuts on the ride to the voting stations.

Sorry: my co-religionists are fucking stupid, but they aren't lazy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 01:48 PM (LH6ir)

83 I've been trying to make sense of Connecticut blue state bullshit '10. Never before was there such a upswell of support for people who don't suck cock. But yet, at the end of the day, the cock suckers won. Why? Well believe it or not Dick Blumenthal is actually amazingly popular in this sate. He did his dues. He did a shit load of appearances and responded to constituents. He politics suck, but his customer service is top notch. I actually think his name drew people in to vote democrat. I don't think anyone will be able to unseat him. Now for senate '12?. Sorry, no Dem has earned that kind of popularity. We got a chance.

Posted by: Tina Yothers at June 23, 2011 01:48 PM (STTZD)

84 73 Yeah, I suspect that if we take the Senate by a healthy margin, the Maine sisters and SB will become much more tractable.

Like 2006/2005 when we had a slim majority?

36/32 and 48/32 respectively. ^They voted with the Dems more than the R's.

Maybe I'm being thick, but I don't understand your comment or numbers.  Please elaborate.

Posted by: pep at June 23, 2011 01:49 PM (6TB1Z)

85

Should it happen, I would not expect it to be actually either graceful or congratulatory toward however bested him.

Of course not.  It will be filled with pity-me because of all of the racist in this country hatin' on a black man.  Unless Cain wins....  then what will he say?

Posted by: Cheri at June 23, 2011 01:49 PM (oiNtH)

86

Sabato: Democrats Will Lose The Senate

Ace, you've had a co-blogger telling you this repeatedly since November 2010.

Tester, McCaskill, Nelson are gone.

Open seats in ND and VA go to us.

The longer odds of flipping WI,MI,PA,OH,FL,NM,HI and/or MN are just that- much longer.

However, if Feinstein and Lautenberg step down for health reasons, Dems will be scrambling to fill two open seats in blue states they do NOT want the embarassment of losing, which drains funds out of the aforementioned seats. So 55-57 is very likely, a few more surprise retirements or announcements (Giuliani running against Gillibrand) and your filibuster proof majority pops into 50/50 odds.

Posted by: CAC at June 23, 2011 01:50 PM (OXDIe)

87

I wish I could be so optimistic.  Obama is beatable, but despite the constant fuckupery, fecklessness, prolonged bad economy, massive debt, etc his approval rating has still remained relatively stable in the mid-40's.

Republicans need to do two things- come out with an economic plan that goes beyond spending proposals, and to hit Obama hard on how his policies hurt rather than help the economy.  Cite health care costs related to Obamacare, regulations (don't call them "regulations" but instead something like "bureaucratic hurdles), inflation, increased oil prices and his restrictions on oil exploration, etc.

Keep it simple- Obama's policies are responsible for higher fuel prices, increasing inflation, and increased costs and restrictions on employers and economic uncertainty.

 

Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 23, 2011 01:50 PM (SY2Kh)

88

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 05:45 PM (GTbGH)

But that extra $1.2 Trillion ayear is going somewhere, The media are going to find people hurt by the 'drastic Republican cuts' and air sob story after sob story. And because of the big cuts the Dems and the media will claim that there was a recovery, it was fragile, and the horrible Republican cuts derailed the recovery. It will be repeated over and over.

I'd still love to know where all that money is going. Nuclear plants, Mars missions, Earthquake machines, human clones. Nothing. Bribes to unions and lackkeys.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at June 23, 2011 01:51 PM (GKQDR)

89 http://www.blackfive.net/main/2011/06/president-obamas-terrible-mistake.html

Posted by: armadillo at June 23, 2011 05:37 PM (NLDaf)

The pustule living in the WH is a despicable human being.   How the hell can you make a mistake like that after you were the one that pinned the medal on SSG Guinta, and embraced the parents of SFC Monti?   Sure, I get that all the fuckstick does is read a teleprompter, but does he even read the damn speeches before he gives them?   His wife says he's so on top of things that he gets up early every morning so he will know more than those who brief him.     If he's that damn smart, even if he hadn't read the speech before he read it, he should have realized as he was reading it that the names were wrong.

Gawd, I hate that shit-for-brains more every day.

Posted by: Steph at June 23, 2011 01:52 PM (AkdC5)

90 Maybe I'm being thick, but I don't understand your comment or numbers.  Please elaborate.

That's their ACU rating based on votes for key bills in those years. A rating of < 50 means they voted with the Dems more than 50% of the time.

In some years there were Dems that had higher ratings than them.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 01:52 PM (M9Ie6)

91

Of course not.  It will be filled with pity-me because of all of the racist in this country hatin' on a black man.  Unless Cain wins....  then what will he say?

The Obamunist would say that the 'Toms won, and it was just the dopest shiznit.

Remember, success is not "authentic blackness". Cain is already non-black to them.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 01:52 PM (ujg0T)

92 One additional note for the pie-in-the-sky Senate seats: New York.

Guiliani, I think, would win it.  Pataki could if Gillibrand campaigns poorly.

Posted by: AmishDude at June 23, 2011 05:33 PM (T0NGe)

Giuliani beat her like Rihanna in Chris Brown's closet in polling all through last year. I am talking 10-15 pt leads. He would crush her, even with Obama on the top of the ticket.

Posted by: CAC at June 23, 2011 01:53 PM (OXDIe)

93 I feel sorry for the eventual presidential winner (other than you know who) in a way. Much of the US won't handle austerity very well....haha, I kill myself sometimes. Greece is the word, the word, the word....
 
Then you will have the leftwitless talking heads hamming it up for all the world to see. Hanging themselves with their neckties on air, spittle soaking every camera lens in sight, running sorrowful stories about little Suzie selling her virginity for a loaf of bread and a 2002 Mazda hubcap, and breathlessly reporting on the run on 2002 Mazda hubcaps on Ebay.
 
Little do they know, I've already cornered the market in 2002 Mazda hubcaps.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 23, 2011 01:53 PM (ENKCw)

94 So 55-57 is very likely

Going from 41 to 57 seats in four years would be an epic pendulum swing.

I'll be drunkenly pounding the pud with all the mechanical fury of an industrial robot gone berserk.

I'll have to take a week off work to recover.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 23, 2011 01:54 PM (GTbGH)

95 @CAC,

O/T but based on your photos I saw through your link, you might like this.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 01:54 PM (LH6ir)

96 If Tommy Thompson enters the Senate race in Wisconsin, I think he takes Kohl's old seat.  Tommy is an  old re-tread, and hardly the face of the tea party, but he's always been really popular in Wisconsin so I think that seat would go (R).

Posted by: mama winger at June 23, 2011 01:55 PM (R9bQ9)

97 The best part about booting Obama in 2012 will be the nationwide riots that break out immediately after his concession speech. Generic Republican better plan on doing his acceptance speech from a bunker in an undisclosed location, then keeping his happy ass in there until the end of his first term. I, however, will reliish the target practice afforded by the zombie apocalypse until it all comes crashing down in December 2012. Mayans, you magnificent bastards.

Posted by: Damiano at June 23, 2011 01:56 PM (3nrx7)

98 BTW, I used 2005/2006 because that was the last two year cycle where we had Republican majorities.

Which could give you a very strange ruling coalition of Conservative Republicans/Southern Democrats. Similar to the one Reagan patched together in 1981 to get the tax cuts through.

I don't think there are any more "conservative" Democrats in any region of the country. For example we now only have one Democrat in a major office in SC and that is Jim Clyburn. He is so far left he makes Mao look conservative.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 01:57 PM (M9Ie6)

99 I think we can write off CA until it goes bankrupt and collapses.

Any State that would elect Moonbeam as governor is up the creek.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 01:59 PM (M9Ie6)

100 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life and Killer of Polar Bears at June 23, 2011 05:57 PM (OWjjx)

I don't see NJ, in spite of Christie, because he rode a wave that was perfectly suited for his style. The next general election will be more traditional, and a traditional crook from the Dem ranks will probably take the Senate seat.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 02:00 PM (LH6ir)

101 A two-thirds majority in the Senate, which enables veto overrides, is sixty-seven seats, not sixty-three.

Posted by: No Whining at June 23, 2011 02:01 PM (BIMql)

102

I don't see NJ, in spite of Christie, because he rode a wave that was perfectly suited for his style. The next general election will be more traditional, and a traditional crook from the Dem ranks will probably take the Senate seat.

But is anyone more of a lout than Frank the Lout?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 02:04 PM (ujg0T)

103 Posted by: No Whining at June 23, 2011 06:01 PM (BIMql)

Yes, but that's not what we were talking about. Filibuster-proof is different than overriding vetos.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 02:05 PM (LH6ir)

104 Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 06:04 PM (ujg0T)

I saw Martinez, the junior cocksucker at dinner last month. He and his date (wife?) were drinking a very expensive wine.

That irritated me. He doesn't make enough money to drink $250 bottles of wine at dinner.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 02:07 PM (LH6ir)

105 Drat. Now I must hope Obama gets reelected. Cause, you know, I hate Rove that much.

Posted by: MaxMBJ at June 23, 2011 02:07 PM (qBKEb)

106 Which means they will cross over occassionally to have something to go home about and say "hey, I worked with the GOP on this issue or that issue"

LOL, Mark Warner has 8/24 rating for the last two years. But that is better than Clyburn who is 0/0.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 02:09 PM (M9Ie6)

107

Drat. Now I must hope Obama gets reelected. Cause, you know, I hate Rove that much.

Karl Rove, whose Hispandering cost the GOP a once Solid Southwest. I have no idea why he is seen as such a wunderkind.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 02:09 PM (ujg0T)

108 As for Delaware, the seat held by Tom Carper is up for election in 2012. If he decides to run for another term, he's pretty much a lock. If he decides to retire, look for Biden's son, "Beau", the current AG, to seek the seat because the trial of the pedophile pediatrician in Sussex County - the event which figured prominently in him declining to run in 2010 - will be concluded sometime this year. Biden's son is more than likely almost as strong a lock to win as is Carper. It's not clear who would contest the seat for the GOP, but O'Donnell is still here and has funds left over from her 2010 race. I have no idea whether there is another person here who would run for the GOP nomination. And so it goes ...

Posted by: No Whining at June 23, 2011 02:11 PM (BIMql)

109 Karl Rove, whose Hispandering cost the GOP a once Solid Southwest. I have no idea why he is seen as such a wunderkind.

My thoughts exactly. I thought he was a damn idiot. Bush won despite him and only because the Dems fielded such shitty candidates.

Posted by: Vic at June 23, 2011 02:12 PM (M9Ie6)

110

Karl Rove, whose Hispandering cost the GOP a once Solid Southwest. I have no idea why he is seen as such a wunderkind.

My thoughts exactly. I thought he was a damn idiot. Bush won despite him and only because the Dems fielded such shitty candidates.

Totally, if you will pardon my Calispeak. Once upon a time Cali and the Southwest had some kick ass GOP congresscritters as well as Uncle Ron: Laxalt, Goldwater before he got senile, and a whole contingent out of Orange County (Rohrbacher, Dornan, Gaddi Vasquez, Dannemeyer, Briggs)

Today? Cali is lost. CO, NM and NV are tossups. AZ is showing hope with Brewer, but how many of "my friends, my friends" are there electing and supporting that senile toad, his bimbo wife and slut daughter?

All because they wouldn't listen to Pete Wilson in 1994, an otherwise rather RINO guy who understood you CAN'T win a pandering contest with the Commiecrats over an underclass.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 02:17 PM (ujg0T)

111

I think you misunderstood CA and NJ.

I didn't say we would win them- I said the vacancies there would force Democrats to spend more in these two states and less elsewhere. Every dollar spent on X can't be spent on Y or Z.

The Democratic pool in California is very weak- its why they had Brown...and ONLY Brown, for 2010. Yeah he won, but who will the Dems run statewide for the Senate? Newsom has little support outside of San Fran and won because Abel Maldonado was a turd with no support, getting beaten worse than Whitman.

Fiorina would be a good re-run in an OPEN race, or Steve Cooley. But the Democrats have no POPULAR people to run if Feinstein retires. Nobody.

Posted by: CAC at June 23, 2011 02:25 PM (OXDIe)

112

"Fiorina would be a good re-run in an OPEN race"

Ack, no. Chuck DeVore should have won that primary. Carly was an empty skirt.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 02:28 PM (ujg0T)

113

#116

She came as close to winning as any R would in that race thanks to Meg's implosion.

Posted by: CAC at June 23, 2011 02:32 PM (OXDIe)

114

She came as close to winning as any R would in that race thanks to Meg's implosion.

Tell me about it. I can't stand that Soviet slut, Commie Cunt, Bolshevik Bitch Boxer. Listening to her queefing is enough to make me homocidal.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at June 23, 2011 02:36 PM (ujg0T)

115

Tell me about it. I can't stand that Soviet slut, Commie Cunt, Bolshevik Bitch Boxer.

I hadn't realized you were such a softie. You love her compared to me.

Posted by: Jay Guevara at June 23, 2011 02:40 PM (KKNkp)

116 107 Yes, but that's not what we were talking about. Filibuster-proof is different than overriding vetos. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 23, 2011 06:05 PM (LH6ir) My mistake - I hadn't read far enough into the threads to catch that point. I do think, though, that Miss Lindsey and Maverick could equally well knife us in the back at inopportune moments ...

Posted by: No Whining at June 23, 2011 02:44 PM (9lUyQ)

117

Damn! Blast!  Ohhhhh, very well.  Put some Weiner across my paw. 

Seriously, I had a Chicago dog kit from Chicago shipped out here just now in CO. Everyting included. Was gonna have some people over for real dogs on Sunday. Can't get a real dog here. (Sneeked in the Italian Beef kit too)

With the continued Weiner posts, now I am worried about the dog party. Looking down down at my dog and seeing Weiners face talking...a la Kramer's from Seinfeld on a roasted chicken.

Posted by: PugBoo at June 23, 2011 03:23 PM (20jXV)

118 Is it possible for Obama to back away from the health care bill while blaming it's collapse on Nancy Pellosi?

Posted by: elliot m at June 23, 2011 04:13 PM (zPich)

119 As a small business owner all I can tell you is that you haven't seen the bloodbath that is coming due to Obamacare yet.  Everyone I know with more than a handful of employees is desperately trying to get out of business with something, anything, to show for the effort.  The entry level businesses are going to be a thing of the past and all you will have are large and midsize businesses or tiny little two man crews who broker everything out.

If this thing isn't repealed, and Obama somehow manages to sneak in another term by having the media claim that Rick Perry has Palin's womb locked in his basement turning out right wing drones 24/7, then we are going to look back on Obama's first term as the good old days.

Posted by: Voluble at June 23, 2011 04:15 PM (JKX4x)

120

Apparently my map yesterday was too small for Ace to notice, btw.

Should've gone bigggarr....

Posted by: CAC at June 23, 2011 04:49 PM (OXDIe)

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125 Let's hope the Reps don't blow it if they do hit the trifecta.

They will. They're not called the Stupid Party for nothing.

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at June 23, 2011 09:19 PM (Y1gzX)

126 Castle is the only Republican who might have a chance against Carper or Beau Biden in Delaware, but O'Donnell will also run.  She has to.

As long as she continues running for a federal office, she can pay herself a salary from her leftover campaign fund, which was over $1 million.  It's perfectly legal - only sitting federal officers cannot do this.  She doesn't have to spend all the money campaigning, as long as she's a candidate - in fact she can just spend what new money she can manage to raise from the suckers who sent her cash last time.

Posted by: Adjoran at June 23, 2011 09:42 PM (VfmLu)

127 Vote to repeal OBAMACARE,CAP & TRADE and bring home the troops and find obamas birth certificate

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