March 10, 2011
Update: Rubber Bullets
— Ace In the east of the country.
Update: Just Sam says this was rubber bullets.
Saudi police fired rubber bullets to disperse protests in the eastern province - CNBC citing WSJ
Well, that's important data. Not exactly civil, but no martyrs, either.
...
Drew notes that this wasn't even the main protest that's being organized. The House of Saud isn't playing games.
Obviously, if the state fell, it would be very bad short term, and probably long term, because terrorism, Wahabism, etc., are pretty popular over there.
Interesting: What's in the east?
Two things: Shiites, and oil.
rotests so far in Saudi Arabia have been limited to the Eastern province of the country, where the minority Shia population resides. But thatÂ’s also where the oil fields lie.
“And that’s what I worry about,” Ryan Crocker, a former U.S. ambassador to Iraq and other Middle Eastern nations told POLITICO...
There are major protests planned for tomorrow.
Some Views: This guy calls for the US to ask the House of Saud for reforms and steps towards democracy.
I think that's inadvisable myself.
Why March 11th? Oh, my. Remember this?
March 11 is a powerful date in Saudi Arabia and the day of protests was undoubtedly chosen for its resonance and symbolism. On the same day in 2002, fifteen young girls burned to death in a fire at a girlsÂ’ school in Mecca. Overzealous members of the mutawwa, the religious police, beat back the school girls attempting to escape the fire, refusing to let them out because they were uncovered. This horrific tragedy drew worldwide condemnation and led to serious introspection inside the kingdom that continues to this day.
That guy doesn't anticipate a revolution. He says that while there is agitation against all that makes backward Muslim society backwardly Muslim -- corruption and so forth -- no one is calling for the overthrow of the royal family.
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When you're a knucklehead, it's all freedom, freedom, freedom, except for when it's not, like supporting your favorite rightwing dictatorship(s).
Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at March 10, 2011 11:58 AM (JaL+E)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 10, 2011 11:59 AM (yQWNf)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 10, 2011 11:59 AM (EiH7n)
Posted by: Just Sam at March 10, 2011 11:59 AM (lUCqx)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 11:59 AM (kq1lG)
They can't afford to either. The Saudi's have a good existence going and aren't going to let their Wahhabi brethren ruin it.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 12:00 PM (9hSKh)
Posted by: moki at March 10, 2011 12:00 PM (dZmFh)
Posted by: McLovin at March 10, 2011 12:00 PM (j0IcY)
I wonder if the religious police will let the wimmenz take the sack cloths off of their heads when they finally do get to drive.
There are no Convertibles in Islam.
Posted by: Zombie Ayatollah Khomeni at March 10, 2011 12:01 PM (6//4D)
Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at March 10, 2011 12:01 PM (JaL+E)
There is no short or long term benefit to the House of Saud falling, at least not that I can see.
It will always be a hotbed of Fundemental Islam as it does contain Mecca and Medina.
I would much prefer a secular dictatorship there, but the Saud's aren't bad given the long list of potential alternatives.
Posted by: Ben at March 10, 2011 12:02 PM (wuv1c)
I wouldn't put it past them to get as bloody in putting down protests as Daffy has in Libya.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 10, 2011 12:03 PM (CTd2k)
United States Ambassador Ryan Crocker has a poster of the single sleeve of the British heavy metal band Iron Maiden's "2 Minutes to Midnight" song in his office
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 12:03 PM (9hSKh)
Strongly like: 48.5% (33 votes)
Like: 45.6% (31 votes)
Dislike: 5.9% (4 votes)
Strongly dislike: 0.0% (0 votes)
Posted by: Ben at March 10, 2011 12:04 PM (wuv1c)
Who left the manhole cover off?
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:05 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: XBradTC at March 10, 2011 12:05 PM (X0Ona)
Yo, furry one, you're doing sumthin' right*
What do you think about Ace from Ace of Spades
HQ?
Strongly like: 48.5% (33 votes)
Like: 45.6% (31
votes)
Dislike: 5.9% (4 votes)
Strongly dislike: 0.0% (0 votes)
* your pancakes are teh suck though.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 10, 2011 12:05 PM (pLTLS)
it's funny they also have a stronger negative rating than Ace.....
but AP smarms well so they have that....
and Poppin' Fresh serves up hard quiche like a cannon so....
Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:06 PM (kq1lG)
Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:06 PM (UzBwz)
United States Ambassador Ryan Crocker has a poster of the single sleeve of the British heavy metal band Iron Maiden's "2 Minutes to Midnight" song in his office
I'd rather have a mural of Eddie as The Trooper, like the one commonly appearing in Loyalist areas of Northern Ireland during The Troubles.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 10, 2011 12:06 PM (CTd2k)
Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at March 10, 2011 04:01 PM (JaL+E)
Iranian Revolution of 1979 - good or bad overall, dickweed?
We're waiting with baited breath for your erudite political analysis...
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 12:06 PM (9hSKh)
Posted by: toby928™ at March 10, 2011 12:06 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: A.G. at March 10, 2011 12:06 PM (oAVyq)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:07 PM (kq1lG)
United States Ambassador Ryan Crocker has a poster of the single sleeve of the British heavy metal band Iron Maiden's "2 Minutes to Midnight" song in his office
"Kill for gain, or shoot to maim. But we don't need a reason."
- Maiden Rules!
Posted by: Radagast the Maiden Fan at March 10, 2011 12:07 PM (6//4D)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:07 PM (kq1lG)
Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:07 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: FireHorse at March 10, 2011 12:08 PM (k3RPu)
Egypt..Meh but the protesters won so let's hope for the best.
Libya..Can't get any worse and we owe Kaddaffi a bullet to the head so best of luck to the rebels.
Iran...Again, can't get worse so any change is for the better.
Saudi Arabia...OH HELLS NO. Shoot, shoot often, shoot accurately, then shoot some more.
My fear...sometimes shooting works, sometimes not so much. I hope the cops, internal security and military (if push comes to really shooting) are loyal the House of Saud. If this turns out to be Egypt where the military said no, we are sooooo fucked.
Posted by: DrewM. at March 10, 2011 12:08 PM (HicGG)
Friday might be a very bad day.
Bahrain prepares for march, sectarian clash erupts
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 12:08 PM (9hSKh)
eggmcmuffin...speaking of muslim-loving kid-diddlers....
Scott Ritter was in the news yesterday. He's on trial for trying to poke a kid.
Posted by: Soothsayer Grande at March 10, 2011 12:08 PM (uFokq)
Posted by: XBradTC at March 10, 2011 12:09 PM (X0Ona)
Posted by: Ben at March 10, 2011 12:09 PM (wuv1c)
Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 12:09 PM (ihSHD)
Ace: Obviously, if the state fell, it would be very bad short term, and probably long term, because terrorism, Wahabism, etc., are pretty popular over there.
I hear what you are saying.
But my heart? Saudi Arabia?
My heart says...
Let 'em burn.
I will never forgive or forget the Kingdom's role in 9/11.
I denounce myself for my lack of realpolitik.
Posted by: ed at March 10, 2011 12:09 PM (Y2WVW)
Posted by: Some bruised hippies in Madison at March 10, 2011 12:10 PM (RD7QR)
Bring back the Hashemites!
Posted by: toby928™ at March 10, 2011 12:10 PM (GTbGH)
Ergie. Palin Steele. John Ryan. Seattle Slough. Palin Steele's girlfriend.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 12:10 PM (9hSKh)
especially since the victor in the king of the hill battle for the House of Saud's playground will have the standing to make a run for caliph of the Sunni world....
People don't understand that the House of Saud is considered a bunch of secular assholes in the Wahabbist PoV and that OBL if alive will make a play to have high office openly there.....which would have interesting side effects now that I ponder it.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:10 PM (kq1lG)
Posted by: Megaton McCain at March 10, 2011 12:11 PM (yQWNf)
Maybe the Shiites should hook up with Richard Trumpka? I hear he gets results and is connected.
Posted by: Michael Moore Prophet of the Apocolypse at March 10, 2011 12:11 PM (Q5+Og)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2011 12:12 PM (nj1bB)
Most Popular (Strongly like + like percentage)
15) Andrew Breitbart: 95.5%
14) George Will: 95.6%
13) Glenn Reynolds/Instapundit: 95.7%
11) Fred Thompson: 97%
11) National Review: 97%
9) The Tea Party: 97.1%
9) Charles Krauthammer: 97.1%
6) Allen West: 98.5%
6) Thomas Sowell: 98.5%
6) David Limbaugh: 98.5%
5) Chris Christie: 98.6%
1) Scott Walker: 100%
1) Paul Ryan: 100%
1) Marco Rubio: 100%
1) John Roberts: 100%
nice to see my Senator at 100%
Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:12 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:12 PM (kq1lG)
So according to that poll, of all pundits & politicians, Rep. A. West, and T. Sowell ranked the highest of anyone.
Republican racism rearing its ugly head once again.
Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 10, 2011 12:13 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 04:10 PM (9hSKh)
Greg's gotta be there somewhere
Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:13 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:13 PM (kq1lG)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2011 12:13 PM (nj1bB)
7) Mitt Romney: 44.8%
6) Newt Gingrich: 54.4%
5) Mitch Daniels: +76.1%
4) Michelle Bachmann: +83.6%
3) Jim DeMint: +87.9%
2) Sarah Palin: 89.8%
1) Chris Christie: +98.6%
Palinistas hit the hardest, I'm kidding w/ you guys btw no flame wars please (ducks head)
Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:14 PM (UzBwz)
slowly you are becoming a recognized force on the right....
I am happy for you.
Someone wake him up from that Val-U-Rite induced coma so that he can be informed of that fact.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 10, 2011 12:14 PM (CTd2k)
Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 12:14 PM (RD7QR)
that requires the ruthlessness and drive to have a results based state department.....
that's existed precisely never in my adult life.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:14 PM (kq1lG)
If the Saudi monarchy comes under serious protest pressure, how does Obama react?
The guy just can't seem to get on the right side of anything.
Posted by: The Hammer at March 10, 2011 12:15 PM (32ubA)
Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 04:09 PM (ihSHD)
Yes he does. He's sighting along his 9-Iron as we speak.
(Side note: Am I the only one who sees "ME" and immediately thinks "Maine" instead of "Middle East?" I always have to take a moment to decode, then I feel like an idiot.)
Posted by: MWR at March 10, 2011 12:15 PM (4df7R)
Honorable Mention: Bill O'Reilly: 51.5%
Honorable Mention: Mitt Romney: 55.2%
10) WorldNetDaily: 60.6%
10) Michael Savage: 60.6%
9) Christine O'Donnell: 60.7%
7) Ron Paul: 64.7%
7) Mike Huckabee: 64.7%
6) David Brooks: 71.2%
5) Pat Buchanan: 71.6%
4) Kathleen Parker: 77.8%
3) Joe Scarborough: 80.6%
2) David Frum: 87.5%
1) Meghan McCain: 93.8%
O'Donell more disliked then Romney? Damn
Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:15 PM (UzBwz)
The rebel women should uncover their cleavage and inflict earthquakes on the kingdom.
Posted by: Cicero at March 10, 2011 12:15 PM (QKKT0)
The best way to make these cavemen authoritarians in the middle east be a non-issue is to take away their power.
Their power is their oil. So we need to drill for oil here in the US, and build tons of nuke plants.
This won't solve the problem tomorrow, but there are no quick fixes in life. It would send these thugs on a slow decline to irrelevancy.
Direct intervention is not going to fix the underlying issue: they are neanderthals and have lots of power.
Posted by: dan-O at March 10, 2011 12:16 PM (bRLuD)
17) Glenn Reynolds/Instapundit: 50.7%
17) National Review: 50.7%
17) Chris Christie: 50.7%
15) Fred Thompson: 51.5%
15) Dick Cheney: 51.5%
14) Allah/Ed Morrissey (Hot Air): 52.9%
13) Sarah Palin: 55%
11) Scott Walker: 55.2%
11) Andrew Breitbart: 55.2%
10) Marco Rubio: 58.8%
9) Michelle Malkin: 60.3%
7) Charles Krauthammer: 61.8%
6) Rush Limbaugh: 62.3%
5) Meghan McCain: 64.6%
4) The Tea Party: 64.7%
3) Paul Ryan: 68.7%
2) Allen West: 76.9%
1) Thomas Sowell: 79.4%
2 african americas on top woot!
Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:16 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 10, 2011 12:16 PM (CTd2k)
look on the bright side Kathleen Parker destroyed herself this last year.....
leaving Spitz and Swallows to just Spitz on CNN
Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:17 PM (kq1lG)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 10, 2011 12:17 PM (qqrPQ)
Ron Paul being at the top makes that poll a ridiculous party favor......
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:17 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Madison rioters cowering in the Capitol at March 10, 2011 12:18 PM (lwUmg)
(Side note: Am I the only one who sees "ME" and immediately thinks "Maine" instead of "Middle East?" I always have to take a moment to decode, then I feel like an idiot.)
Posted by: MWR at March 10, 2011 04:15 PM (4df7R)
When I see ME I automatically think of me. Word!
Posted by: Preznit Toonces at March 10, 2011 12:18 PM (yQWNf)
17) Glenn Reynolds/Instapundit: 50.7%
17) National Review: 50.7%
17) Chris Christie: 50.7%
15) Fred Thompson: 51.5%
15) Dick Cheney: 51.5%
14) Allah/Ed Morrissey (Hot Air): 52.9%
13) Sarah Palin: 55%
11) Scott Walker: 55.2%
11) Andrew Breitbart: 55.2%
10) Marco Rubio: 58.8%
9) Michelle Malkin: 60.3%
John Roberts: 60.6%
7) Charles Krauthammer: 61.8%
6) Rush Limbaugh: 62.3%
5) Meghan McCain: 64.6%
4) The Tea Party: 64.7%
3) Paul Ryan: 68.7%
2) Allen West: 76.9%
1) Thomas Sowell: 79.4%
2 african americas on top woot!
Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 04:16 PM (UzBwz)
WTF is Meggie Mac doing with a HIGHER rating than Limbaugh and Malkin? What the hell is she even DOING on a list of "liked" people? Dammit, Meggie, quit stuffing the ballot box!
Posted by: MWR at March 10, 2011 12:18 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 12:18 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 10, 2011 12:19 PM (gJNMj)
Posted by: dan-O at March 10, 2011 04:16 PM (bRLuD)
If ONLY we had more High Speed RAIL......
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:20 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: SnowSoul at March 10, 2011 12:20 PM (7kgOh)
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 10, 2011 04:19 PM (gJNMj)
Among other things. For one, the assholes who beat those girls back into the burning building would get a little American justice: prison rape and a needle in the arm.
Posted by: MWR at March 10, 2011 12:20 PM (4df7R)
Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 12:20 PM (RD7QR)
You racist gun-toting wingers are too stupid to appreciate the rich and glorious tapestry that those ragtop camel jockeys storied Arab people and their deeply meaningful religion have brought to the world.
They and their lovely petrodollars.
Posted by: Ron Schiller, Immediately Available for Employment at March 10, 2011 12:21 PM (QKKT0)
we do not get most of our fuel from the ME....we also can weather a severe disruption better than many nations....
if the NAFTA nations had balls they'd start exploration and shale production and then start spiking Arab wells themselves with JDAMs.
Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:21 PM (kq1lG)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 10, 2011 12:22 PM (8y9MW)
55: I just pine for old time American foreign policy.
Like funding a general strike, like we did in Santiago back in '73? Sorry, Ace, but someone commenting at DU beat you to that idea.
Posted by: FireHorse at March 10, 2011 12:22 PM (k3RPu)
Posted by: Jean at March 10, 2011 12:22 PM (WkuV6)
Strongly like:= pudding dipping good
Like:= Valu Rite Vodka
Dislike:= just another troll
Strongly dislike:= Smells of dead El Salvadorian Nuns
Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 10, 2011 12:23 PM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: MWR at March 10, 2011 04:20 PM (4df7R)
What's in the needle? Didn't we run out of the killin stuff? At least they're not making it, so we better act fast....
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:23 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 10, 2011 12:23 PM (yQWNf)
Posted by: ace at March 10, 2011 04:13 PM (nj1bB)
Question: The Shiites in Saudi, are they Arab or Persian? If they are Arab, the Persians/Iranians might, might have less influence than we think.
Posted by: ed at March 10, 2011 12:24 PM (Y2WVW)
Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 12:24 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 10, 2011 04:16 PM (CTd2k)
Mac has become mr. badass GOP dude since he lost to Obama I thought it was to get re-elected but he's keeping it up...so far
Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 04:17 PM (kq1lG)
bright side? the poll results I was talking about was on the bright side, but Kathleen pisses me off more so yes I enjoyed her destruction
Posted by: MWR at March 10, 2011 04:18 PM (4df7R)
it's passion index on liked/dislike, she's strongly disliked
Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:25 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 12:26 PM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Megaton McCain at March 10, 2011 12:26 PM (yQWNf)
And they won't. The House of Saud is the custodians of the holy places. They could fire real bullets and no one in the Muslim world would say booo to them.
Posted by: Rocks at March 10, 2011 12:27 PM (Q1lie)
Posted by: USS Diversity at March 10, 2011 12:27 PM (gJNMj)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 10, 2011 04:23 PM (yQWNf)
I drive a C1500 pickup (1/2 ton). I can't FILL it because the pump cuts off my debt card at $75.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:27 PM (UK9cE)
Why do Americans always call for democracy when we live in a constitutional republic? Democracy without further description just means the majority can use the levers of power to exploit the minority. Or one man, one vote, one time in the case of Islamist politics.
Posted by: Beagle at March 10, 2011 12:28 PM (sOtz/)
I wasn't even allowed to go with Barack when he visited Saudi Arabia.
They are nothing but a bunch of Bullies, those Saudis.
Posted by: Michelle Obama's Landing Strip at March 10, 2011 12:28 PM (6//4D)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 10, 2011 04:23 PM (yQWNf)
>>>I drive a C1500 pickup (1/2 ton). I can't FILL it because the pump cuts off my debt card at $75.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 04:27 PM (UK9cE)
I have a Camry and I spent $68 the other day to fill it up. And I shopped around a bit for a decent priced station. This is in CA.
Posted by: dan-O at March 10, 2011 12:29 PM (bRLuD)
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:30 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 12:30 PM (RD7QR)
I wasn't even allowed to go with Barack when he visited Saudi Arabia.
They are nothing but a bunch of Bullies, those Saudis.
Posted by: Michelle Obama's Landing Strip at March 10, 2011 04:28 PM (6//4D)
So she peeled you off and left you at home? Cool.
Posted by: Megaton McCain at March 10, 2011 12:31 PM (yQWNf)
Canada <> OPEC, though parts of Toronto do look like the Middle East from what I hear.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 10, 2011 12:31 PM (CTd2k)
Democracy is three wolves and one sheep voting on what is for dinner
Posted by: dan-O at March 10, 2011 12:32 PM (bRLuD)
I actually think it's shaved more into a Hitler than a landing strip......
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:32 PM (UK9cE)
2) Sarah Palin: 89.8%
1) Chris Christie: +98.6%
Woo hoo! Christie/Palin is right on track!
And that's the most f'ed up idea, why?
Posted by: DarkLord sez they don't cut the cheese! at March 10, 2011 12:33 PM (GBXon)
Posted by: Megaton McCain at March 10, 2011 12:34 PM (yQWNf)
How much of that is because calling for the overthrow of the royal family gets your ass thrown in jail or worse, while going on about "corruption" is an understood codeword for "overthrow the royal family"?
The Sauds made a deal with the Wahhabists that they would be eaten last. Well, the rest of the buffet is starting to look mighty thin, so the always hungry wolf turns its eyes to the last dish on offer.
Posted by: DrewM. at March 10, 2011 12:34 PM (HicGG)
I drive a C1500 pickup (1/2 ton). I can't FILL it because the pump cuts off my debt card at $75.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 04:27 PM (UK9cE)
At the current local pump price of $3.46 x my 30 gallon tank = $103.80 for a fill up. I'm putting gas in ten bucks at a time, just in case the price takes a major dive.
Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 12:35 PM (wfphE)
So she peeled you off and left you at home? Cool.
No. I had several stylists work overtime teasing and pruning to make me look like a beard.
You know, the whole 'Jack-a-Roe' routine...Secret Service didn't fall for it.
Posted by: Michelle Obama's Landing Strip at March 10, 2011 12:35 PM (6//4D)
I was just saying when my b-day is because it was mentioned in the article btw, not because I expect gifts from any of the morons
(has hand out now for goodies, gets slapped in return)
Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:36 PM (UzBwz)
Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 12:37 PM (RD7QR)
At the current local pump price of $3.46 x my 30 gallon tank = $103.80 for a fill up. I'm putting gas in ten bucks at a time, just in case the price takes a major dive.
Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 04:35 PM (wfphE)
Yeah. I guess I'll start doing that. Once a week, about $15 or $30 to keep it above 1/2 a tank.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:37 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 04:30 PM (RD7QR)
I saw something funny about that the other day on Slashdot. The lefty editors there were snarking about a Utah law that just passed that instructs schools to teach children that the US is a republic, not a democracy. They were talking as though the law was created because the word democracy has "Democrat" in it. They were quickly beclowned by the Slashdot commenters (who are overwhelmingly very leftist) who pointed out that, hey, it turns out those idiot-redneck-mormons are right and they are wrong
Posted by: dan-O at March 10, 2011 12:38 PM (bRLuD)
I was just saying when my b-day is because it was mentioned in the article btw, not because I expect gifts from any of the morons
(has hand out now for goodies, gets slapped in return)
Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 04:36 PM (UzBwz)
There's an article?
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:38 PM (UK9cE)
The House of Saud only needs the territory and resources, NOT the people, as foreigners put in the work in most areas such as the oil industry. As a result, I could see them going far in measures to "suppress" the Wahhabist elements that are rising up against them.
Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 10, 2011 12:39 PM (CTd2k)
Well, it stands to reason. They've never recited The Pledge of Allegiance, so they wouldn't know.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:40 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 04:37 PM (UK9cE)
I try to keep it at right about 1/4 tank but that's because my rig gets 8 MPG. I'm trying to keep the weight down as much as possible!
Come to think of it, maybe I should strip the truck down and hitch up a team of horses.
Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 12:41 PM (wfphE)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 10, 2011 12:43 PM (tJjm/)
That really does say all that should need to be said about Islam, doesn't it? If your religion leaves open for question whether its worse to a) allow girls to be burned to death or b) allow said girls to avoid being burned to death by committing the grave sin of not wearing a head covering, I have no interest in your religion.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 10, 2011 12:45 PM (8y9MW)
I try to keep it at right about 1/4 tank but that's because my rig gets 8 MPG. I'm trying to keep the weight down as much as possible!
Come to think of it, maybe I should strip the truck down and hitch up a team of horses.
Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 04:41 PM (wfphE)
Ewwww.....Mine gets a pretty constant 14 city, so it's not horrible.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:48 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: CoolCzech at March 10, 2011 04:43 PM (tJjm/)
That apparently didn't stop them from becoming a member of the U.N. Women's Rights Panel 4 months ago.
Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 12:49 PM (wfphE)
Posted by: Elwood Blues at March 10, 2011 12:50 PM (gJNMj)
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 04:48 PM (UK9cE)
LOL! I'd be dancing in the streets right now if I got 14!
Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 12:51 PM (wfphE)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 10, 2011 04:45 PM (8y9MW)
Tis sad commentary that the forces around the burning building didn't have anything available to cover the women up since their backwards ass religion would rather them die a horrible death than be seen for a moment in time.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:51 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 04:37 PM (RD7QR)
My understanding, and I'm far from an expert on this is that when the House of Saud was consolidating its grip they cut a deal with the Wahhabi religious movement that they would do the politics and the Wahhabi would do the religion (though the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice).
Remember a lot of the Saudi royal family are pretty western when it comes to their vices and like to go to Europe and the US to play. Bin laden hates them because he thinks they are sellouts.
The Saudi Royal Family is huge so there are obviously some hard core Islamists in there but I think the main princes tend to be more practical than not.
So yeah, they are all technically Wahhabi but that doesn't mean a lot of what goes on there isn't a marriage of convenience open to change.
Again, perhaps someone who knows more can chime in.
Posted by: DrewM. at March 10, 2011 12:51 PM (HicGG)
LOL! I'd be dancing in the streets right now if I got 14!
Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 04:51 PM (wfphE)
I converted it to electric fans, put a cold air kit in it and an air lift kit for when I tow my 5th wheel. I know, a 1/2 ton truck shouldn't really do that, but with the add-ons, it does Ok. I don't tow far and still get over 10 MPG when towing it.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:54 PM (UK9cE)
the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice
That sounds like it could be Michelle's next initiative.
Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 12:55 PM (wfphE)
>>>>>>the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice
>>>That sounds like it could be Michelle's next initiativeThis is very true, and I think is, to a large extent, why the left has such a hard time condemning radical Islam. I think they see echos of their own mentality in their dogmatic radicalism.
If you don't look at the Left as a religious movement, then it is impossible to understand.
Posted by: dan-O at March 10, 2011 01:01 PM (bRLuD)
Posted by: Grim at March 10, 2011 01:02 PM (gyNYk)
Wow, they've been introspecting now for over nine years.
Bueller, anyone?
Posted by: PJ at March 10, 2011 01:02 PM (QdxaI)
Posted by: The Mutawwa at March 10, 2011 01:19 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: moki at March 10, 2011 01:58 PM (dZmFh)
Saudis killing Saudis! It's like a dream come true. More and faster, please.
Perhaps there are no public calls to depose the Saudi monarchy but it certainly is whispered privately. Remember that Saudi Arabia is an evil empire imposed on the Arabs who live there. For example, the Muslim Arabs in Jiddah object to the Saudi rule and the Wahhabi scum that come with it. If you are not one of the Sauds, then you're nothing in Saudi Arabia, the only country named after a family.
Posted by: Tantor at March 10, 2011 02:14 PM (blNMI)
Posted by: drfredc at March 10, 2011 02:19 PM (/+GW9)
you in-Kingdom now, Grim? who with?
Posted by: taba at March 10, 2011 09:35 PM (oJmnN)
Posted by: NHL Jersey at March 11, 2011 03:27 AM (+rqgT)
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