March 10, 2011

Saudi Cops Open Fire on Protestors
Update: Rubber Bullets

— Ace

In the east of the country.

Update: Just Sam says this was rubber bullets.

Saudi police fired rubber bullets to disperse protests in the eastern province - CNBC citing WSJ

Well, that's important data. Not exactly civil, but no martyrs, either.

...

Drew notes that this wasn't even the main protest that's being organized. The House of Saud isn't playing games.

Obviously, if the state fell, it would be very bad short term, and probably long term, because terrorism, Wahabism, etc., are pretty popular over there.

Interesting: What's in the east?

Two things: Shiites, and oil.

rotests so far in Saudi Arabia have been limited to the Eastern province of the country, where the minority Shia population resides. But thatÂ’s also where the oil fields lie.


“And that’s what I worry about,” Ryan Crocker, a former U.S. ambassador to Iraq and other Middle Eastern nations told POLITICO...

There are major protests planned for tomorrow.

Some Views: This guy calls for the US to ask the House of Saud for reforms and steps towards democracy.

I think that's inadvisable myself.

Why March 11th? Oh, my. Remember this?

March 11 is a powerful date in Saudi Arabia and the day of protests was undoubtedly chosen for its resonance and symbolism. On the same day in 2002, fifteen young girls burned to death in a fire at a girlsÂ’ school in Mecca. Overzealous members of the mutawwa, the religious police, beat back the school girls attempting to escape the fire, refusing to let them out because they were uncovered. This horrific tragedy drew worldwide condemnation and led to serious introspection inside the kingdom that continues to this day.

That guy doesn't anticipate a revolution. He says that while there is agitation against all that makes backward Muslim society backwardly Muslim -- corruption and so forth -- no one is calling for the overthrow of the royal family.

Posted by: Ace at 11:55 AM | Comments (145)
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1 But they might let the wimmenz drive soon right?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 10, 2011 11:57 AM (yQWNf)

2 Ob didn't bow low enough.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 10, 2011 11:57 AM (EiH7n)

3 Wahabism, etc., are pretty popular over there.

When you're a knucklehead, it's all freedom, freedom, freedom, except for when it's not, like supporting your favorite rightwing dictatorship(s).

Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at March 10, 2011 11:58 AM (JaL+E)

4 I wonder if the religious police will let the wimmenz take the sack cloths off of their heads when they finally do get to drive.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 10, 2011 11:59 AM (yQWNf)

5 When you hold hands with the king don't think that means you got to 2nd base.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at March 10, 2011 11:59 AM (EiH7n)

6 Saudi police fired rubber bullets to disperse protests in the eastern province - CNBC citing WSJ

Posted by: Just Sam at March 10, 2011 11:59 AM (lUCqx)

7 /ot Allah over at HA just posted a comparison of Ace's and AP/Poppin' Fresh's favorability..... Ace won.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 11:59 AM (kq1lG)

8 like supporting your favorite rightwing dictatorship(s).

What about bowing to them?

Posted by: Waterhouse at March 10, 2011 12:00 PM (EDSBe)

9

That was me. 

Cairo. 

Posted by: Barack H. Obama at March 10, 2011 12:00 PM (6//4D)

10 Drew notes that this wasn't even the main protest that's being organized. The House of Saud isn't playing games.

They can't afford to either.  The Saudi's have a good existence going and aren't going to let their Wahhabi brethren ruin it.


Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 12:00 PM (9hSKh)

11 4-nope. Those nasty little men are vicious with their camel whips-they will beat the crap out you for showing too much hair, much less the mortal sin of women driving. (However, if the women have to drive veiled, that is a completely different problem.)

Posted by: moki at March 10, 2011 12:00 PM (dZmFh)

12 You know, we shouldn't even bother to get Our own domestic sources online. It'll Take ten years at least. We should just Deal with religious fanatics who have Wet dreams about all the death and destruction They can visit upon us. I hate-hate liberals!!

Posted by: McLovin at March 10, 2011 12:00 PM (j0IcY)

13

I wonder if the religious police will let the wimmenz take the sack cloths off of their heads when they finally do get to drive.

There are no Convertibles in Islam.

Posted by: Zombie Ayatollah Khomeni at March 10, 2011 12:01 PM (6//4D)

14  Ace, watching you decode the arab "revolutions" is like watching an 18-year old debutante pick out a dress for the cotillion ball.

Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at March 10, 2011 12:01 PM (JaL+E)

15

There is no short or long term benefit to the House of Saud falling, at least not that I can see.

It will always be a hotbed of Fundemental Islam as it does contain Mecca and Medina.

I would much prefer a secular dictatorship there, but the Saud's aren't bad given the long list of potential alternatives.

Posted by: Ben at March 10, 2011 12:02 PM (wuv1c)

16 The House of Saud is playing for keeps. 

I wouldn't put it past them to get as bloody in putting down protests as Daffy has in Libya.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 10, 2011 12:03 PM (CTd2k)

17 Interesting trivia about Ryan Crocker:

United States Ambassador Ryan Crocker has a poster of the single sleeve of the British heavy metal band Iron Maiden's "2 Minutes to Midnight" song in his office

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 12:03 PM (9hSKh)

18 What do you think about Ace from Ace of Spades HQ?
Strongly like: 48.5% (33 votes)
Like: 45.6% (31 votes)
Dislike: 5.9% (4 votes)
Strongly dislike: 0.0% (0 votes)

Posted by: Ben at March 10, 2011 12:04 PM (wuv1c)

19

There are no Convertibles in Islam.

Then let's stop calling them "ragtops."

Posted by: FireHorse at March 10, 2011 12:05 PM (k3RPu)

20 Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at March 10, 2011 03:58 PM (JaL+E)

Who left the manhole cover off?

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:05 PM (UK9cE)

21 Gee, it's almost like we should have opened ANWR to drilling 10 years ago. But they said that was stupid, since it would take a decade for production to come online...

Posted by: XBradTC at March 10, 2011 12:05 PM (X0Ona)

22

Yo, furry one, you're doing sumthin' right*

What do you think about Ace from Ace of Spades HQ?
Strongly like: 48.5% (33 votes)
Like: 45.6% (31 votes)
Dislike: 5.9% (4 votes)
Strongly dislike: 0.0% (0 votes)

* your pancakes are teh suck though.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 10, 2011 12:05 PM (pLTLS)

23 18 Ben,

it's funny they also have a stronger negative rating than Ace.....

but AP smarms well so they have that....

and Poppin' Fresh serves up hard quiche like a cannon so....

Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:06 PM (kq1lG)

24 OT: Right Wing News has the favorability/dislike on the right poll and I was stunned at the results, both moderates and purists will have something to complain about

Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:06 PM (UzBwz)

25 17 Interesting trivia about Ryan Crocker:

United States Ambassador Ryan Crocker has a poster of the single sleeve of the British heavy metal band Iron Maiden's "2 Minutes to Midnight" song in his office

I'd rather have a mural of Eddie as The Trooper, like the one commonly appearing in Loyalist areas of Northern Ireland during The Troubles.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 10, 2011 12:06 PM (CTd2k)

26

Posted by: some murdered nuns in el salvador at March 10, 2011 04:01 PM (JaL+E)

Iranian Revolution of 1979 - good or bad overall, dickweed?

We're waiting with baited breath for your erudite political analysis...

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 12:06 PM (9hSKh)

27 Shouldn't erg be weeping on the Wisconsin Assembly thread?  So many tears, so little time.

Posted by: toby928™ at March 10, 2011 12:06 PM (GTbGH)

28 there is a 3rd thing in the east... bahrain. http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/ 2011/03/08/showdown-in-bahrain- iran-saudi-arabia-and-u-s-struggle- for-regional-dominance/

Posted by: A.G. at March 10, 2011 12:06 PM (oAVyq)

29 22 Lacey,

AoS come for the valu-rite....stay for the hobo hunting

Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:07 PM (kq1lG)

30

United States Ambassador Ryan Crocker has a poster of the single sleeve of the British heavy metal band Iron Maiden's "2 Minutes to Midnight" song in his office

"Kill for gain, or shoot to maim.  But we don't need a reason."

- Maiden Rules!

Posted by: Radagast the Maiden Fan at March 10, 2011 12:07 PM (6//4D)

31 21 Xbrad, but think of the moose the moose I say!

Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:07 PM (kq1lG)

32 btw Ace polled better then HotAir

Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:07 PM (UzBwz)

33 17, 25: I'd go with the "Back Bart Blues" picture disk.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 10, 2011 12:08 PM (k3RPu)

34 I have a sliding scale on these things...

Egypt..Meh but the protesters won so let's hope for the best.

Libya..Can't get any worse and we owe Kaddaffi a bullet to the head so best of luck to the rebels.

Iran...Again, can't get worse so any change is for the better.

Saudi Arabia...OH HELLS NO. Shoot, shoot often, shoot accurately, then shoot some more.

My fear...sometimes shooting works, sometimes not so much. I hope the cops, internal security and military (if push comes to really shooting) are loyal the House of Saud. If this turns out to be Egypt where the military said no, we are sooooo fucked.

Posted by: DrewM. at March 10, 2011 12:08 PM (HicGG)

35

Oh poor lil Meggie Poo.

She's about to have a very bad day if she read that poll.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 10, 2011 12:08 PM (pLTLS)

36 28 there is a 3rd thing in the east... bahrain.

Friday might be a very bad day.

Bahrain prepares for march, sectarian clash erupts

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 12:08 PM (9hSKh)

Posted by: Radagast the Maiden Fan at March 10, 2011 12:08 PM (6//4D)

38
eggmcmuffin...speaking of muslim-loving kid-diddlers....

Scott Ritter was in the news yesterday. He's on trial for trying to poke a kid.

Posted by: Soothsayer Grande at March 10, 2011 12:08 PM (uFokq)

39 @Sven, moose, moose-limbs.... It's all good!

Posted by: XBradTC at March 10, 2011 12:09 PM (X0Ona)

40 We need to find out who the five people are that votes "dislike". They must be destroyed.

Posted by: Ben at March 10, 2011 12:09 PM (wuv1c)

41 But don't you worry, Obama has a laser like focus on these developments in the ME. 

Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 12:09 PM (ihSHD)

42

Ace:  Obviously, if the state fell, it would be very bad short term, and probably long term, because terrorism, Wahabism, etc., are pretty popular over there.

I hear what you are saying. 

But my heart?  Saudi Arabia?

My heart says...

Let 'em burn.

I will never forgive or forget the Kingdom's role in 9/11.

I denounce myself for my lack of realpolitik.

Posted by: ed at March 10, 2011 12:09 PM (Y2WVW)

43 You people commenting on stuff and stuff! You're such cunts and rightwingers and...and...STUFF!

Posted by: Some bruised hippies in Madison at March 10, 2011 12:10 PM (RD7QR)

44 I wouldn't mind seeing the House of Saud fall.  Their a bunch of usurpers anyway.

Bring back the Hashemites!

Posted by: toby928™ at March 10, 2011 12:10 PM (GTbGH)

45 40 We need to find out who the five people are that votes "dislike". They must be destroyed.

Ergie.  Palin Steele.  John Ryan.  Seattle Slough.  Palin Steele's girlfriend. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 12:10 PM (9hSKh)

46 34 Drew,

especially since the victor in the king of the hill battle for the House of Saud's playground will have the standing to make a run for caliph of the Sunni world....

People don't understand that the House of Saud is considered a bunch of secular assholes in the Wahabbist PoV and that OBL if alive will make a play to have high office openly there.....which would have interesting side effects now that I ponder it.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:10 PM (kq1lG)

47 Who cares what goes on in this world as long as I have McDonalds, Chinese Carry Out, and Haagen Daz it's all good.

Posted by: Megaton McCain at March 10, 2011 12:11 PM (yQWNf)

48

Maybe the Shiites should hook up with Richard Trumpka? I hear he gets results and is connected.

Posted by: Michael Moore Prophet of the Apocolypse at March 10, 2011 12:11 PM (Q5+Og)

49 Thanks for posting that RWN thing. It's kind of funny to be rated in something like that.

Posted by: ace at March 10, 2011 12:12 PM (nj1bB)

50

Most Popular (Strongly like + like percentage)

15) Andrew Breitbart: 95.5%
14) George Will: 95.6%
13) Glenn Reynolds/Instapundit: 95.7%
11) Fred Thompson: 97%
11) National Review: 97%
9) The Tea Party: 97.1%
9) Charles Krauthammer: 97.1%
6) Allen West: 98.5%
6) Thomas Sowell: 98.5%
6) David Limbaugh: 98.5%
5) Chris Christie: 98.6%
1) Scott Walker: 100%
1) Paul Ryan: 100%
1) Marco Rubio: 100%
1) John Roberts: 100%

nice to see my Senator at 100%

Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:12 PM (UzBwz)

51 47 Megaton,

and AP chasing you as the #1 groupie

Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:12 PM (kq1lG)

52

So according to that poll, of all pundits & politicians, Rep. A. West, and T. Sowell ranked the highest of anyone.

Republican racism rearing its ugly head once again.

 

 

Posted by: laceyunderalls at March 10, 2011 12:13 PM (pLTLS)

53

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at March 10, 2011 04:10 PM (9hSKh)

Greg's gotta be there somewhere

Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:13 PM (UzBwz)

54 49 Ace,

slowly you are becoming a recognized force on the right....

I am happy for you.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:13 PM (kq1lG)

55 ed, I just pine for old time American foreign policy. Like what we did in Panama. Find a genuine indigenous separtist movement, arm and supply them, make a new country. Shiites in Saudi Arabia sitting on all that oil...? Well, if not for the influence of Iran, they sure would be the sort of guys I'd like to develop a relationship with.

Posted by: ace at March 10, 2011 12:13 PM (nj1bB)

56 Most Popular Potential 2012 POTUS Contenders (Strongly like + like percentage)

Ron Paul: 35.3%
Mike Huckabee: 35.3%
7) Mitt Romney: 44.8%
6) Newt Gingrich: 54.4%
5) Mitch Daniels: +76.1%
4) Michelle Bachmann: +83.6%
3) Jim DeMint: +87.9%
2) Sarah Palin: 89.8%
1) Chris Christie: +98.6%

Palinistas hit the hardest, I'm kidding w/ you guys btw no flame wars please (ducks head)

Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:14 PM (UzBwz)

57

Black Bart Blues:

http://tinyurl.com/4dc3y38
(Don't skip the intro.)

Posted by: FireHorse at March 10, 2011 12:14 PM (k3RPu)

58 54 49 Ace,

slowly you are becoming a recognized force on the right....

I am happy for you.

Someone wake him up from that Val-U-Rite induced coma so that he can be informed of that fact.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 10, 2011 12:14 PM (CTd2k)

59 My feeling about the Saudis is: I hate them. They're major funders of terrorism. They spread militant wahabism worldwide. And if the Iranians raise the shiites in rebellion and seize the oil fields we are all deeply, seriously screwed. So, for right now, I want the Saudis to shoot straight. This is the kind of calculation serious people have to make sometimes.

Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 12:14 PM (RD7QR)

60 55 Ace,

that requires the ruthlessness and drive to have a results based state department.....

that's existed precisely never in my adult life.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:14 PM (kq1lG)

61 So, if Quack-daffy survives and remains in power, how do Obama and State save face? 

If the Saudi monarchy comes under serious protest pressure, how does Obama react? 

The guy just can't seem to get on the right side of anything. 

Posted by: The Hammer at March 10, 2011 12:15 PM (32ubA)

62 41 But don't you worry, Obama has a laser like focus on these developments in the ME. 

Posted by: runningrn at March 10, 2011 04:09 PM (ihSHD)

Yes he does.  He's sighting along his 9-Iron as we speak.

(Side note: Am I the only one who sees "ME" and immediately thinks "Maine" instead of "Middle East?"  I always have to take a moment to decode, then I feel like an idiot.)

Posted by: MWR at March 10, 2011 12:15 PM (4df7R)

63 Most Unpopular (Strongly dislike + dislike percentage)

Honorable Mention: Bill O'Reilly: 51.5%
Honorable Mention: Mitt Romney: 55.2%
10) WorldNetDaily: 60.6%
10) Michael Savage: 60.6%
9) Christine O'Donnell: 60.7%
7) Ron Paul: 64.7%
7) Mike Huckabee: 64.7%
6) David Brooks: 71.2%
5) Pat Buchanan: 71.6%
4) Kathleen Parker: 77.8%
3) Joe Scarborough: 80.6%
2) David Frum: 87.5%
1) Meghan McCain: 93.8%

O'Donell more disliked then Romney? Damn

Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:15 PM (UzBwz)

64

The rebel women should uncover their cleavage and inflict earthquakes on the kingdom.

Posted by: Cicero at March 10, 2011 12:15 PM (QKKT0)

65
The best way to make these cavemen authoritarians in the middle east be a non-issue is to take away their power.

Their power is their oil.  So we need to drill for oil here in the US, and build tons of nuke plants. 

This won't solve the problem tomorrow, but there are no quick fixes in life.  It would send these thugs on a slow decline to irrelevancy. 

Direct intervention is not going to fix the underlying issue: they are neanderthals and have lots of power.

Posted by: dan-O at March 10, 2011 12:16 PM (bRLuD)

66 Passion Index (Strongly like (+) or strongly dislike (-) percentage)

17) Glenn Reynolds/Instapundit: 50.7%
17) National Review: 50.7%
17) Chris Christie: 50.7%
15) Fred Thompson: 51.5%
15) Dick Cheney: 51.5%
14) Allah/Ed Morrissey (Hot Air): 52.9%
13) Sarah Palin: 55%
11) Scott Walker: 55.2%
11) Andrew Breitbart: 55.2%
10) Marco Rubio: 58.8%
9) Michelle Malkin: 60.3%
John Roberts: 60.6%
7) Charles Krauthammer: 61.8%
6) Rush Limbaugh: 62.3%
5) Meghan McCain: 64.6%
4) The Tea Party: 64.7%
3) Paul Ryan: 68.7%
2) Allen West: 76.9%
1) Thomas Sowell: 79.4%

2 african americas on top woot!

Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:16 PM (UzBwz)

67 I'm surprised that *JOHN* McCain wasn't up there above the 60% mark like his annoying brat.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 10, 2011 12:16 PM (CTd2k)

68 63 YRM,

look on the bright side Kathleen Parker destroyed herself this last year.....

leaving Spitz and Swallows to just Spitz on CNN

Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:17 PM (kq1lG)

69 Meanwhile, Hillary takes Bill's balls out of her purse, throws them on the ground and joins her sister Barry in saying "we should wait for the world to act".

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 10, 2011 12:17 PM (qqrPQ)

70

ace at March 10, 2011 04:13 PM (nj1bB)

I feel ya, brother.

Posted by: ed at March 10, 2011 12:17 PM (Y2WVW)

71 Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 04:14 PM (UzBwz)

Ron Paul being at the top makes that poll a ridiculous party favor......

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:17 PM (UK9cE)

72 Rubber bullets? Pussies. We would use real ones on Wisconsin Republicans, we're tough guys. Yeah, baby. We're hard as nails.

Posted by: Madison rioters cowering in the Capitol at March 10, 2011 12:18 PM (lwUmg)

73

(Side note: Am I the only one who sees "ME" and immediately thinks "Maine" instead of "Middle East?"  I always have to take a moment to decode, then I feel like an idiot.)

Posted by: MWR at March 10, 2011 04:15 PM (4df7R)

When I see ME I automatically think of me.  Word!

Posted by: Preznit Toonces at March 10, 2011 12:18 PM (yQWNf)

74 66 Passion Index (Strongly like (+) or strongly dislike (-) percentage)

17) Glenn Reynolds/Instapundit: 50.7%
17) National Review: 50.7%
17) Chris Christie: 50.7%
15) Fred Thompson: 51.5%
15) Dick Cheney: 51.5%
14) Allah/Ed Morrissey (Hot Air): 52.9%
13) Sarah Palin: 55%
11) Scott Walker: 55.2%
11) Andrew Breitbart: 55.2%
10) Marco Rubio: 58.8%
9) Michelle Malkin: 60.3%
John Roberts: 60.6%
7) Charles Krauthammer: 61.8%
6) Rush Limbaugh: 62.3%
5) Meghan McCain: 64.6%
4) The Tea Party: 64.7%
3) Paul Ryan: 68.7%
2) Allen West: 76.9%
1) Thomas Sowell: 79.4%

2 african americas on top woot!

Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 04:16 PM (UzBwz)

WTF is Meggie Mac doing with a HIGHER rating than Limbaugh and Malkin?  What the hell is she even DOING on a list of "liked" people?  Dammit, Meggie, quit stuffing the ballot box! 

Posted by: MWR at March 10, 2011 12:18 PM (4df7R)

75 Gas is now $3.98 at the nearest station.

Posted by: Chuckit at March 10, 2011 12:18 PM (DKUSo)

76 69 Meanwhile, Hillary takes Bill's balls out of her purse, throws them on the ground and joins her sister Barry in saying "we should wait for the world to act". Posted by: Guy Fawkes at March 10, 2011 04:17 PM (qqrPQ) Yes, we shouldn't lead. That would be all unilateral and cowboyish and shit. Can't have that.

Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 12:18 PM (RD7QR)

77 From last night's doom thread...if we.... "annexed" ....Saudi Arabia, that would solve a lot of economic problems, right?

Posted by: USS Diversity at March 10, 2011 12:19 PM (gJNMj)

78

wheee!

Posted by: taba at March 10, 2011 12:19 PM (N7gDL)

79 Direct intervention is not going to fix the underlying issue: they are neanderthals and have lots of power.

Posted by: dan-O at March 10, 2011 04:16 PM (bRLuD)



If ONLY we had more High Speed RAIL......

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:20 PM (UK9cE)

80 Krauthammer said that if this gets big there, we would need to help stop the protests because that's going to be hitting $200+ a barrel of oil on Special Report a week or two ago.

Posted by: SnowSoul at March 10, 2011 12:20 PM (7kgOh)

81 77 From last night's doom thread...if we.... "annexed" ....Saudi Arabia, that would solve a lot of economic problems, right?

Posted by: USS Diversity at March 10, 2011 04:19 PM (gJNMj)

Among other things.  For one, the assholes who beat those girls back into the burning building would get a little American justice: prison rape and a needle in the arm.

Posted by: MWR at March 10, 2011 12:20 PM (4df7R)

82 77 From last night's doom thread...if we.... "annexed" ....Saudi Arabia, that would solve a lot of economic problems, right? Posted by: USS Diversity at March 10, 2011 04:19 PM (gJNMj) No blood for oil! No actions in our own self-interest! We need to act counter to our interests in order to have high self-esteem!

Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 12:20 PM (RD7QR)

Posted by: blue star at March 10, 2011 12:21 PM (4OCrT)

84

You racist gun-toting wingers are too stupid to appreciate the rich and glorious tapestry that those ragtop camel jockeys storied Arab people and their deeply meaningful religion have brought to the world.

They and their lovely petrodollars.

Posted by: Ron Schiller, Immediately Available for Employment at March 10, 2011 12:21 PM (QKKT0)

85

Posted by: Chuckit at March 10, 2011 04:18 PM (DKUSo)

Must be those pesky Joooos!

Posted by: Radagast the Jew at March 10, 2011 12:21 PM (6//4D)

86 77 USS Diversity....

we do not get most of our fuel from the ME....we also can weather a severe disruption better than many nations....

if the NAFTA nations had balls they'd start exploration and shale production and then start spiking Arab wells themselves with JDAMs.

Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 12:21 PM (kq1lG)

87 Oh.  Yay.  $10/gal gasoline, here we come.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 10, 2011 12:22 PM (8y9MW)

88

55: I just pine for old time American foreign policy.

Like funding a general strike, like we did in Santiago back in '73? Sorry, Ace, but someone commenting at DU beat you to that idea.

Posted by: FireHorse at March 10, 2011 12:22 PM (k3RPu)

89 Best Case -- The more liberal members of the monarchy could use these protests to push out some of the religious hardliners.

Posted by: Jean at March 10, 2011 12:22 PM (WkuV6)

90 When Ace runs a poll like this I think the ratings should be changed

Strongly like:= pudding dipping good
Like:= Valu Rite Vodka
Dislike:= just another troll
Strongly dislike:= Smells of dead El Salvadorian Nuns

Posted by: Buzzsaw at March 10, 2011 12:23 PM (tf9Ne)

91 American justice: prison rape and a needle in the arm.

Posted by: MWR at March 10, 2011 04:20 PM (4df7R)



What's in the needle?  Didn't we run out of the killin stuff?  At least they're not making it, so we better act fast....

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:23 PM (UK9cE)

92 It cost me $35 bucks to fill my Civic today.  I feel sorry for people that drive Suburbans.  I don't know if making the Magic Kingdom into a territory would do much to relieve the pain at the pump.  Is Canada part of OPEC? 

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 10, 2011 12:23 PM (yQWNf)

93 Shiites in Saudi Arabia sitting on all that oil...? Well, if not for the influence of Iran, they sure would be the sort of guys I'd like to develop a relationship with.

Posted by: ace at March 10, 2011 04:13 PM (nj1bB)

 

Question:  The Shiites in Saudi, are they Arab or Persian?  If they are Arab, the Persians/Iranians might, might have less influence than we think.

Posted by: ed at March 10, 2011 12:24 PM (Y2WVW)

94 90 Best Case -- The more liberal members of the monarchy could use these protests to push out some of the religious hardliners. Posted by: Jean at March 10, 2011 04:22 PM (WkuV6) Worst case: the opposite. I imagine a lot can be justified under the rubric of "the oil must flow, and all this liberalism is making the infidels protest."

Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 12:24 PM (RD7QR)

95

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 10, 2011 04:16 PM (CTd2k)

Mac has become mr. badass GOP dude since he lost to Obama I thought it was to get re-elected but he's keeping it up...so far

Posted by: sven10077 at March 10, 2011 04:17 PM (kq1lG)

bright side? the poll results I was talking about was on the bright side, but Kathleen pisses me off more so yes I enjoyed her destruction

Posted by: MWR at March 10, 2011 04:18 PM (4df7R)

it's passion index on liked/dislike, she's strongly disliked

Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:25 PM (UzBwz)

96 So, is goat penis burning a big problem in Saudi? And how do the goats feel about this?

Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 12:26 PM (RD7QR)

97 Who wants to come around my Lovenasium later?  I'll literally smother you with my passion.

Posted by: Megaton McCain at March 10, 2011 12:26 PM (yQWNf)

98 He says that while there is agitation against all that makes backward Muslim society backwardly Muslim -- corruption and so forth -- no one is calling for the overthrow of the royal family.

And they won't. The House of Saud is the custodians of the holy places. They could fire real bullets and no one in the Muslim world would say booo to them.

Posted by: Rocks at March 10, 2011 12:27 PM (Q1lie)

99 So, is goat penis burning a big problem in Saudi?

A little penicillin will clear that up.

Posted by: toby928™ at March 10, 2011 12:27 PM (GTbGH)

100 But if it were Saudi America, it would already be our oil.

Posted by: USS Diversity at March 10, 2011 12:27 PM (gJNMj)

101 It cost me $35 bucks to fill my Civic today.  I feel sorry for people that drive Suburbans.  I don't know if making the Magic Kingdom into a territory would do much to relieve the pain at the pump.  Is Canada part of OPEC? 

Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 10, 2011 04:23 PM (yQWNf)



I drive a C1500 pickup (1/2 ton).  I can't FILL it because the pump cuts off my debt card at $75.

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:27 PM (UK9cE)

102

Why do Americans always call for democracy when we live in a constitutional republic?  Democracy without further description just means the majority can use the levers of power to exploit the minority.  Or one man, one vote, one time in the case of Islamist politics. 

Posted by: Beagle at March 10, 2011 12:28 PM (sOtz/)

103

I wasn't even allowed to go with Barack when he visited Saudi Arabia. 

They are nothing but a bunch of Bullies, those Saudis.

 

Posted by: Michelle Obama's Landing Strip at March 10, 2011 12:28 PM (6//4D)

104

btw March 11 is my b-day

dum! dum! dum!

Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:29 PM (UzBwz)

105 >>> >>>104 It cost me $35 bucks to fill my Civic today.  I feel sorry for people that drive Suburbans.  I don't know if making the Magic Kingdom into a territory would do much to relieve the pain at the pump.  Is Canada part of OPEC?
Posted by: Truck Monkey at March 10, 2011 04:23 PM (yQWNf)

>>>I drive a C1500 pickup (1/2 ton).  I can't FILL it because the pump cuts off my debt card at $75.
Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 04:27 PM (UK9cE)


I have a Camry and I spent $68 the other day to fill it up.  And I shopped around a bit for a decent priced station.  This is in CA.

Posted by: dan-O at March 10, 2011 12:29 PM (bRLuD)

106 Well, happy birthday to you......TOMORROW!!!  STFU for now.

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:30 PM (UK9cE)

107 Why do Americans always call for democracy when we live in a constitutional republic? 1. Because "democracy" is a shorthand for "more like our system" 2. Because they don't teach proper civics anymore so people don't know the difference between a republic and a democracy

Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 12:30 PM (RD7QR)

108

I wasn't even allowed to go with Barack when he visited Saudi Arabia. 

They are nothing but a bunch of Bullies, those Saudis.

 

Posted by: Michelle Obama's Landing Strip at March 10, 2011 04:28 PM (6//4D)

So she peeled you off and left you at home?  Cool.

Posted by: Megaton McCain at March 10, 2011 12:31 PM (yQWNf)

109 Is Canada part of OPEC?

Canada <> OPEC, though parts of Toronto do look like the Middle East from what I hear.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 10, 2011 12:31 PM (CTd2k)

110 >>> Democracy without further description just means the majority can use the levers of power to exploit the minority

Democracy is three wolves and one sheep voting on what is for dinner

Posted by: dan-O at March 10, 2011 12:32 PM (bRLuD)

111 Michelle Obama's Landing Strip

I actually think it's shaved more into a Hitler than a landing strip......

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:32 PM (UK9cE)

112

2) Sarah Palin: 89.8%
1) Chris Christie: +98.6%

Woo hoo! Christie/Palin is right on track!

And that's the most f'ed up idea, why?

Posted by: DarkLord sez they don't cut the cheese! at March 10, 2011 12:33 PM (GBXon)

113 Hey Mic Pop Filters.  Pop over to the Lovenasium later and I'll show you a Fat burning Whore Moan.

Posted by: Megaton McCain at March 10, 2011 12:34 PM (yQWNf)

114 He says that while there is agitation against all that makes backward Muslim society backwardly Muslim -- corruption and so forth -- no one is calling for the overthrow of the royal family.

How much of that is because calling for the overthrow of the royal family gets your ass thrown in jail or worse, while going on about "corruption" is an understood codeword for "overthrow the royal family"?

The Sauds made a deal with the Wahhabists that they would be eaten last. Well, the rest of the buffet is starting to look mighty thin, so the always hungry wolf turns its eyes to the last dish on offer.

Posted by: DrewM. at March 10, 2011 12:34 PM (HicGG)

115

I drive a C1500 pickup (1/2 ton).  I can't FILL it because the pump cuts off my debt card at $75.

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 04:27 PM (UK9cE)

At the current local pump price of $3.46 x my 30 gallon tank = $103.80 for a fill up. I'm putting gas in ten bucks at a time, just in case the price takes a major dive.

Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 12:35 PM (wfphE)

116

So she peeled you off and left you at home?  Cool.

No.  I had several stylists work overtime teasing and pruning to make me look like a beard. 

You know, the whole 'Jack-a-Roe' routine...Secret Service didn't fall for it.

Posted by: Michelle Obama's Landing Strip at March 10, 2011 12:35 PM (6//4D)

117

I was just saying when my b-day is because it was mentioned in the article btw, not because I expect gifts from any of the morons

(has hand out now for goodies, gets slapped in return)

Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:36 PM (UzBwz)

118 DrewM, aren't the Saudis and the Wahhabists pretty much the same thing? To be a Saudi big wheel is to be Wahhabi, no?

Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 12:37 PM (RD7QR)

119

At the current local pump price of $3.46 x my 30 gallon tank = $103.80 for a fill up. I'm putting gas in ten bucks at a time, just in case the price takes a major dive.

Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 04:35 PM (wfphE)



Yeah.  I guess I'll start doing that.  Once a week, about $15 or $30 to keep it above 1/2 a tank.

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:37 PM (UK9cE)

120 >>> 2. Because they don't teach proper civics anymore so people don't know the difference between a republic and a democracy
Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 04:30 PM (RD7QR)


I saw something funny about that the other day on Slashdot.  The lefty editors there were snarking about a Utah law that just passed that instructs schools to teach children that the US is a republic, not a democracy.  They were talking as though the law was created because the word democracy has "Democrat" in it.  They were quickly beclowned by the Slashdot commenters (who are overwhelmingly very leftist) who pointed out that, hey, it turns out those idiot-redneck-mormons are right and they are wrong

Posted by: dan-O at March 10, 2011 12:38 PM (bRLuD)

121

I was just saying when my b-day is because it was mentioned in the article btw, not because I expect gifts from any of the morons

(has hand out now for goodies, gets slapped in return)

Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 04:36 PM (UzBwz)



There's an article?

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:38 PM (UK9cE)

122 The Sauds made a deal with the Wahhabists that they would be eaten last. Well, the rest of the buffet is starting to look mighty thin, so the always hungry wolf turns its eyes to the last dish on offer.

The House of Saud only needs the territory and resources, NOT the people, as foreigners put in the work in most areas such as the oil industry.  As a result, I could see them going far in measures to "suppress" the Wahhabist elements that are rising up against them.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at March 10, 2011 12:39 PM (CTd2k)

123 The lefty editors there were snarking about a Utah law that just passed that instructs schools to teach children that the US is a republic, not a democracy.  They were talking as though the law was created because the word democracy has "Democrat" in it.  They were quickly beclowned by the Slashdot commenters (who are overwhelmingly very leftist) who pointed out that, hey, it turns out those idiot-redneck-mormons are right and they are wrong

Well, it stands to reason.  They've never recited The Pledge of Allegiance, so they wouldn't know.

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:40 PM (UK9cE)

124

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 04:38 PM (UK9cE)

lol I meant the date is mentioned

Posted by: YRM (Sanity 2, Unions 0) at March 10, 2011 12:41 PM (UzBwz)

125 Yeah.  I guess I'll start doing that.  Once a week, about $15 or $30 to keep it above 1/2 a tank.

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 04:37 PM (UK9cE)

I try to keep it at right about 1/4 tank but that's because my rig gets 8 MPG. I'm trying to keep the weight down as much as possible!

Come to think of it, maybe I should strip the truck down and hitch up a team of horses.

Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 12:41 PM (wfphE)

126 Democracy?  Bad idea.

Posted by: Aristotle at March 10, 2011 12:42 PM (QKKT0)

127 This horrific tragedy drew worldwide condemnation and led to serious introspection inside the kingdom that continues to this day. You mean 9 years later, they are STILL trying to decide if forcing those girls to be burned to death was a good idea or not? Camel. Fuckers. That's all.

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 10, 2011 12:43 PM (tJjm/)

128 Posted by: CoolCzech at March 10, 2011 04:43 PM (tJjm/)

That really does say all that should need to be said about Islam, doesn't it?  If your religion leaves open for question whether its worse to a) allow girls to be burned to death or b) allow said girls to avoid being burned to death by committing the grave sin of not wearing a head covering, I have no interest in your religion.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 10, 2011 12:45 PM (8y9MW)

129

I try to keep it at right about 1/4 tank but that's because my rig gets 8 MPG. I'm trying to keep the weight down as much as possible!

Come to think of it, maybe I should strip the truck down and hitch up a team of horses.

Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 04:41 PM (wfphE)



Ewwww.....Mine gets a pretty constant 14 city, so it's not horrible.

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:48 PM (UK9cE)

130 You mean 9 years later, they are STILL trying to decide if forcing those girls to be burned to death was a good idea or not?

Posted by: CoolCzech at March 10, 2011 04:43 PM (tJjm/)

That apparently didn't stop them from becoming a member of the U.N. Women's Rights Panel 4 months ago.

 

 

Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 12:49 PM (wfphE)

131 Whaddaya want for nothin'...a rrrrrubber bullet?

Posted by: Elwood Blues at March 10, 2011 12:50 PM (gJNMj)

132 Ewwww.....Mine gets a pretty constant 14 city, so it's not horrible.

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 04:48 PM (UK9cE)

LOL! I'd be dancing in the streets right now if I got 14!

Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 12:51 PM (wfphE)

133 allow said girls to avoid being burned to death by committing the grave sin of not wearing a head covering, I have no interest in your religion.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at March 10, 2011 04:45 PM (8y9MW)


Tis sad commentary that the forces around the burning building didn't have anything available to cover the women up since their backwards ass religion would rather them die a horrible death than be seen for a moment in time.

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:51 PM (UK9cE)

134 DrewM, aren't the Saudis and the Wahhabists pretty much the same thing? To be a Saudi big wheel is to be Wahhabi, no?
Posted by: joncelli at March 10, 2011 04:37 PM (RD7QR)

My understanding, and I'm far from an expert on this is that when the House of Saud was consolidating its grip they cut a deal with the Wahhabi religious movement that they would do the politics and the Wahhabi would do the religion (though the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice).

Remember a lot of the Saudi royal family are pretty western when it comes to their vices and like to go to Europe and the US to play. Bin laden hates them because he thinks they are sellouts.

The Saudi Royal Family is huge so there are obviously some hard core Islamists in there but I think the main princes tend to be more practical than not.

So yeah, they are all technically Wahhabi but that doesn't mean a lot of what goes on there isn't a marriage of convenience open to change.

Again, perhaps someone who knows more can chime in.

Posted by: DrewM. at March 10, 2011 12:51 PM (HicGG)

135

LOL! I'd be dancing in the streets right now if I got 14!

Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 04:51 PM (wfphE)



I converted it to electric fans, put a cold air kit in it and an air lift kit for when I tow my 5th wheel.  I know, a 1/2 ton truck shouldn't really do that, but with the add-ons, it does Ok.  I don't tow far and still get over 10 MPG when towing it.

Posted by: © Sponge at March 10, 2011 12:54 PM (UK9cE)

136

the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice

That sounds like it could be Michelle's next initiative.

Posted by: ErikW at March 10, 2011 12:55 PM (wfphE)

137

>>>>>>the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice

>>>That sounds like it could be Michelle's next initiative



This is very true, and I think is, to a large extent, why the left has such a hard time condemning radical Islam.  I think they see echos of their own mentality in their dogmatic radicalism.

If you don't look at the Left as a religious movement, then it is impossible to understand.

Posted by: dan-O at March 10, 2011 01:01 PM (bRLuD)

138 Eastern SA is the liberal part of the country (liberal as in less oppressive, not liberal as in commie). Western influence is highest in that area, partially due to the number of Westerners (and Far Easteners) working in that region. The closer you get to the West Coast of the magic kingdom, the more oppressive it gets. Our engineers (including me) don't go to western SA anymore. Grim

Posted by: Grim at March 10, 2011 01:02 PM (gyNYk)

139 "...led to serious introspection inside the kingdom that continues to this day."

Wow, they've been introspecting now for over nine years.

Bueller, anyone?

Posted by: PJ at March 10, 2011 01:02 PM (QdxaI)

140 Our collective pimp hand is strong, bitchez.  Step on up front if you want a good grooming.

Posted by: The Mutawwa at March 10, 2011 01:19 PM (xy9wk)

141 The Saudi Royal Family is huge so there are obviously some hard core Islamists in there but I think the main princes tend to be more practical than not. So yeah, they are all technically Wahhabi but that doesn't mean a lot of what goes on there isn't a marriage of convenience open to change. Again, perhaps someone who knows more can chime in. Posted by: DrewM. I don't know if I know more, but we lived there for a few years, and you have summed it up well. The Sauds have an uneasy give and take with the Wahhabist religious leaders, but are somewhat sheltered because of their position of the king being "the custodian of the two holy mosques." The problem in Saudi is the caste system-the royal family and some wealthy Saudi families at the top, and then every one else. The lowest caste are the workers, generally from the Philippiines, Sri Lanka, India and Bangladesh. They are treated as slaves, and are brutalized-you hear about some cases rarely, but the abuses are constant and wide-spread. Since most of these groups are "encouraged" to become Muslim, they are fodder for Muslim Brotherhood types to indoctrinate. Which is what I think has been happening in the region. The MB has steadily, and stealthily been encouraging unrest in the countries surrounding Saudi-because that would be their last bastion, as it is home to the two most holy places in Islam. By gaining support in the countries around Saudi, they stand a better chance of winning in the Kingdom, and thus holding the holy places, and establishing their caliphate. But then, I could be wrong. I kinda hope so.

Posted by: moki at March 10, 2011 01:58 PM (dZmFh)

142

Saudis killing Saudis!  It's like a dream come true.  More and faster, please.

Perhaps there are no public calls to depose the Saudi monarchy but it certainly is whispered privately.  Remember that Saudi Arabia is an evil empire imposed on the Arabs who live there.  For example, the Muslim Arabs in Jiddah object to the Saudi rule and the Wahhabi scum that come with it.  If you are not one of the Sauds, then you're nothing in Saudi Arabia, the only country named after a family.

Posted by: Tantor at March 10, 2011 02:14 PM (blNMI)

143 Rubber bullets?  So old school.  They should be shooting bean bags like our border patrol... 

Posted by: drfredc at March 10, 2011 02:19 PM (/+GW9)

144 Our engineers (including me) don't go to western SA anymore.

you in-Kingdom now, Grim? who with?

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