April 05, 2011

Schadenboners: Obama Supporters Defend Obama's Embrace of Military Tribunals, Gitmo
— Ace

At Hot Air, Joe Scarborough wants an apology from Obama. Either he really believes that Bush's terrorist policies were evil and un-american, and yet is continuing that evil, or else he never believed it to begin with, and should apologize for conning the public.

This isn't just about inconsistency. It's about partisanship bordering on sedition and shallow, callow thinking run riot through our supposed leadership.

Matt Lewis notes this isn't just about cheap points:

n retrospect, it is painfully obvious that much of the anti-Bush rhetoric that helped propel Obama to the White House in 2008 was unwarranted, irresponsible, and transparently political. (Yes, itÂ’s water under the bridge, but setting the record straight on history is an important task for opinion leaders.)

It's not just setting the record straight. It's adopting the correct policy for the future.

Military Tribunals Are "Fair," Sayeth Eric Holder: Obama and his leftist minions castigated the War in Iraq as a war of choice -- a war that wasn't forced on us.

Eric Holder, in deciding to try KSM at a military tribunal, now spins such a tribunal as fair and (implicitly) as Constitutional.

Ergo, this is what the Constitution demands. This. This, and not more -- such as a civilian trial.

Given that that is the case -- and Holder has now declared it to be so -- can he now explain to me why he and his boss were choosing to grant KSM more lenient treatment and a greater chance of getting off than necessary?

KSM did not have a right to a civilian trial; Holder now says so. So trying him in a civilian court would have been a privilege. A privilege of choice.

Why? Why are we treating a mass-murderer (and a confessed one, by the way) more softly than our system requires?

Why were/are Obama and Holder so hell-bent to offer them more generous treatment than necessary?

Peter King: Holder Should Stand on Principle and Resign (And Do the Country a Favor): Obviously.

Posted by: Ace at 11:28 AM | Comments (214)
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1 To: Joe Scarborough
From: Every actual Conservative in existence
Re: Obama as evil or at least a con man

"Welcome to the party, pal."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 05, 2011 11:30 AM (8y9MW)

2 Opinion leader? Obama?

The only thing that useless shitbrick leads is the charge to the 1st hole.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 05, 2011 11:30 AM (YvNBz)

3 Rush made that same point yesterday.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 05, 2011 11:31 AM (d0Tfm)

4 It's not just setting the record straight. It's adopting the correct policy for the future. However, with the Left it is always Year Zero when they begin rule. Never having to say you're sorry, and so forth.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 05, 2011 11:31 AM (AZGON)

5 Did I say those Bush policies were wrong?

My bad.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro at April 05, 2011 11:32 AM (mEyVv)

6 Scarborough is David Brooks without the veneer of fake sophistication.

Posted by: Cicero at April 05, 2011 11:32 AM (QKKT0)

7 Odds on Scarborough forgetting about this in a week?

Posted by: George Orwell at April 05, 2011 11:32 AM (AZGON)

8 Some are, but some are breaking from the lemming pack/herd/group/band as it rushes towards the cliff.

Posted by: Penfold at April 05, 2011 11:33 AM (1PeEC)

9

"Opinion leader"? 

Meinung Fuhrer!

If by lead you mean immediately suspect is shallow and wrong, why yes, I do care what mainstream media partisan jackasses think. 

Posted by: Beagle at April 05, 2011 11:34 AM (sOtz/)

10

Well, maybe not that exact same point. What he said was "Obama said Bush was an idiot for his war policy, and now Obama is continuing Bush's idiotic policy. Either Obama's a bigger idiot for doing so, or someone owes Bush an apology."

Or words to that effect.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 05, 2011 11:34 AM (d0Tfm)

11

It's about partisanship bordering on sedition and shallow, callow thinking run riot through our supposed leadership.

Hey, did someone mention my name?

Posted by: Ted Kennedy, Honorary Soviet Commissar and Comrade in Arms In the Fight Against Reagan at April 05, 2011 11:35 AM (QKKT0)

12 I just watched that portion of the show and my brain freaking hurts. Mika is seriously one stupid freaking bint. Granted, we're talking about Joe here, but he's spot on with his request and the panel could not see it.

Posted by: mastour at April 05, 2011 11:35 AM (Wpe8p)

13 should apologize for conning the public.

Maybe the public should apologize for allowing itself to be conned.  Stupid shits.

Posted by: Tami at April 05, 2011 11:35 AM (VuLos)

14 "I resign."
 
Apology accepted.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 05, 2011 11:35 AM (ENKCw)

15 The left has been politicizing the war effort since September 12, 2001. It's amazing that it's taken nearly 10 years for anyone but conservatives to notice.

Posted by: taylork at April 05, 2011 11:35 AM (5wsU9)

16 I shocked, shocked to find that Barry was lying.

Posted by: your winnings, sir at April 05, 2011 11:35 AM (GTbGH)

17

Schadenboners.

Taking a perfect German word and perfecting it once more.

Posted by: Roy at April 05, 2011 11:36 AM (VndSC)

18 SOETORO 2012 - Only the name has changed

Posted by: conscious, but incoherent at April 05, 2011 11:36 AM (YVZlY)

19 Apology? For what? Obama inherited this mess from eight years of Bush's failed policies. Bush made such a mess of everything that Obama has no choice in some cases other than continue Bush's failed policies.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 05, 2011 11:37 AM (uFokq)

20 Wake me up when Guantanamo is closed. . .

Really, is this Obama hypocrisy anything new? 

Of course not, its just that after two years some of the Hopium has worn off.

Posted by: looking closely at April 05, 2011 11:38 AM (PwGfd)

21

Ace said : It's not just setting the record straight. It's adopting the correct policy for the future

exactly, Political challengers shouldn't place politics above our country's security.

Posted by: willow at April 05, 2011 11:38 AM (h+qn8)

22 On average, the consistency of the current liberal body politics last as long as the next sentence they speak.

Posted by: taylork at April 05, 2011 11:38 AM (5wsU9)

23 ya mean liberals are unscrupulous lying bastards who have the morals of a rapist? whoda thunk that?

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 05, 2011 11:39 AM (0GFWk)

24 En pointe! Pirouette!

Posted by: The lefty pundit ballet school and deli at April 05, 2011 11:39 AM (RD7QR)

25 n retrospect, it is painfully obvious that much of the anti-Bush rhetoric that helped propel Obama to the White House in 2008 was unwarranted, irresponsible, and transparently political. (Yes, itÂ’s water under the bridge, but setting the record straight on history is an important task for opinion leaders.)

In retroscpect???

Posted by: Truman North at April 05, 2011 11:40 AM (8ay4x)

26

I'd like to add, want to talk about putting our war efforts at risk and emboldening the enemy watch dems 2003 to 2009.

I'll never forget. ever.

Posted by: willow at April 05, 2011 11:40 AM (h+qn8)

27

The left has been politicizing the war effort since September 12, 2001.

Actually, they were all on board with the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq until we actually went in, then they figured out they could score some of that sweet Code Pink money and talking points in the next election cycle. Then they bent themselves into pretzels trying to deny that they were ever in favor of it.

Fucking hypocrites and typical lying leftists. I need a beer...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 05, 2011 11:40 AM (d0Tfm)

28 Yeah....whatever.

They voted for the polar opposite of Bush, and that's exactly what they got.  He presidents by hind-site.  He knows nothing, does what he wants, takes the temperature of the response, then acts accordingly.  It's much like a child.  Children are very experimental and when they fuck up, they usually learn and move forward.

Good to see we have a baby in the White House learning how to keep his fingers out of the wall outlet.....

Posted by: © Sponge at April 05, 2011 11:40 AM (UK9cE)

29

Today, the president is being attacked as if he were a salesman who promised us that our problems would wash off in the morning. He never made such a promise. Its time for Americans to realize governing is hard work and that a president can't just wave a magic wand and fix everything.

Posted by: Ellie Light at April 05, 2011 11:40 AM (QKKT0)

30 #19

The "blame Bush" schtick is wearing a little thin at this juncture, pal.

But even stipulating for the sake of stupidity that its all Bush's fault, why is Obama not following up on his campaign promises to change things?

If Obama wasn't outright lying during his campaign about what he wanted to do, didn't he show a considerable lack of understanding of political reality to make a whole bunch of promises he couldn't keep?


Posted by: looking closely at April 05, 2011 11:40 AM (PwGfd)

31
Scarborough is somewhere between a RINO and a lesbian democrat, and if he thinks this is a 'come to Jesus' moment to resurrect his image, he should stick with what he knows best, sucking up to liberals. 

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 05, 2011 11:41 AM (ZHsNw)

32 I think it's interesting to note Mika's position regarding GTMO and Obama. She asked Joe if he believed Obama would have opened up GTMO for use as a detention facility. Joe essentially agreeing with Mika stated he didn't think Obama would. My question, having spent some time at GTMO talking to those fucking knuckleheads; what exactly would President Obama have done in the exact situation.

Posted by: mastour at April 05, 2011 11:41 AM (Wpe8p)

33 ya mean liberals are unscrupulous lying bastards who have the morals of a rapist? You'll be hearing from Empire of Jeff's lawyers in the morning. Slander is serious business, pal.

Posted by: The Law Firm of Hungadunga, Hungadunga, Hungadunga and Hungadunga at April 05, 2011 11:41 AM (AZGON)

34 History?  Never heard of it.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at April 05, 2011 11:41 AM (UOcNk)

35 Not 'water under the bridge'. These attacks lead directly to the most destructive President and Congress this country has ever seen being put into power. On nothing but LIES.

Liberals are traitors and people that vote for them are just as bad.

Posted by: blindside at April 05, 2011 11:41 AM (x7g7t)

36 #29

>>Today, the president is being attacked as if he were a salesman who promised us that our problems would wash off in the morning.

If the shoe fits. . .

Posted by: looking closely at April 05, 2011 11:42 AM (PwGfd)

37

Obama proved, quite early on, that he wasn't even qualified to choose a dog.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2011 11:42 AM (hki9w)

38

Related: Peter King (R-NY) addresses Eric Holder's comments yesterday:

“Maybe Eric Holder wants to live in a dictatorship, we don’t,” King said in an interview with Fox News. “If he feels so strongly about it [...] and this is such an issue of conscious for him, then Eric Holder should resign. If he feels this strongly he should resign on principle. It would do him good, it would certainly do us good. It would do the country good.”

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 05, 2011 11:42 AM (UO6+e)

39 Joe Scarborough

You lost me at J. Couldn't care less.

Posted by: Rocks at April 05, 2011 11:42 AM (Q1lie)

40 Actually, they were all on board with the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq until we actually went in,

My point exactly. They were in support of it to look like hawks and show their toughness. The temporary pro-war stances were nothing but electioneering.

Posted by: taylork at April 05, 2011 11:42 AM (5wsU9)

41 Posted by: Truman North at April 05, 2011 03:40 PM (8ay4x)

If you read the link, he even mentions that it was obvious to him at the time.  It's not a masterfully worded statement, but I think he means that, as of now, it should be painfully obvious even to the ostrich middle.

Posted by: Ellie Light at April 05, 2011 03:40 PM (QKKT0)

Please tell me this is a sock.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 05, 2011 11:43 AM (8y9MW)

42

...and he lied about that, as well.  Promised top get a 'Rescue' Dog. 

Then 'Rescued' one from a breeder, as I remember it.

Posted by: garrett at April 05, 2011 11:43 AM (hki9w)

43

Backwardsboy said : Actually, they were all on board with the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq until we actually went in

that's what really burns my brain. I watched ALL of them agree, (OMG) why didn't you stop them!(i felt the same) Then agree to go to war and then be fkn traitors lie, cheat liesomemore. I learned I was no longer  a Dem around 2003 first rep vote Bush second term.

Posted by: willow at April 05, 2011 11:44 AM (h+qn8)

44 I saw this in real time.   Seems like they added to it after the fact.

Posted by: curious at April 05, 2011 11:44 AM (k1rwm)

45

Today, the president is being attacked as if he were a salesman who promised us that our problems would wash off in the morning. He never made such a promise. Its time for Americans to realize governing is hard work and that a president can't just wave a magic wand and fix everything.

Posted by: Ellie Light at April 05, 2011 03:40 PM

ROLMAO!!!  Well the oceans haven't risen yet that's true. 

Posted by: Deanna at April 05, 2011 11:44 AM (30l7G)

46 Chuckles the Johnson-less will have to stick to lampooning creationists until Obozo gets this whole torture thing sorted out.

Posted by: Cicero at April 05, 2011 11:45 AM (QKKT0)

47 He never made such a promise. Its time for Americans to realize governing is hard work and that a president can't just wave a magic wand and fix everything.

Posted by: Ellie Light at April 05, 2011 03:40 PM (QKKT0)


Then he shouldn't have run on platform of Hope and Change. Because the only changes have been bad and the only person in America feeling hopeful is Obama each time he hits a golf shot.

Posted by: Rocks at April 05, 2011 11:45 AM (Q1lie)

48 Was the Sweatervest sitting in Mika's lap as he was saying this?

What is it with those two anyway? It creeps me out.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 05, 2011 11:45 AM (pLTLS)

49

Schadenboners.

Taking a perfect German word and perfecting it once more.

Posted by: Roy at April 05, 2011 03:36 PM (VndSC)



Taking joy from other people's boners?  I really don't find that 'better'.......There's only one boner I like...and that's MINE.

Posted by: © Sponge at April 05, 2011 11:45 AM (UK9cE)

50 Ha ha.

Ah, the cold hard beauty of reality will always be on our side; the Progsticks may not like it, and will lie/cheat/steal in any way possible to achieve their lofty aims, but in the end...

Posted by: Fritz at April 05, 2011 11:45 AM (GwPRU)

51
Please tell me this is a sock.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 05, 2011 03:43 PM (8y9MW)

It is.

Posted by: Tami at April 05, 2011 11:46 AM (VuLos)

52

He never made such a promise.

"This will be the moment that the oceans began to recede..."

...but wait, there's more! If you order now, you'll recieve a second Unicorn at no extra charge! Simply pay for shipping and handling.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at April 05, 2011 11:46 AM (d0Tfm)

53 The Republicans are about to be rolled. Here's how. Obama will eventually agree to steep budget cuts and it will seal the deal for his reelection. But in the meantime, he and the Democrats are gonna drag the Republicans through the mud. At the end, the Republicans will be smeared and Obama will appear to be a deficit hawk.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 05, 2011 11:46 AM (uFokq)

54

Why? Why are we treating a mass-murderer (and a confessed one, by the way) more softly than our system requires?

Why were/are Obama and Holder so hell-bent to offer them more generous treatment than necessary?

 I. Have. No. Idea.

Posted by: Rashid Khalidi at April 05, 2011 11:46 AM (hki9w)

55 We apologize for this brief foray into common sense and and regret any cognitive dissonance it may have caused. Those responsible have been scheduled for emergency re-education.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled, Skittle shitting unicorn reality.  

Posted by: MSDNC at April 05, 2011 11:47 AM (3nrx7)

56 Eureka!

Posted by: dananjcon at April 05, 2011 11:48 AM (pr+up)

57 "Ellie Light" is a house organ of the Obama administration who got her letters to the editor placed in many well-respected (har) newspapers all over the country on a regular basis.

Posted by: Truman North at April 05, 2011 11:48 AM (8ay4x)

58 Why were/are Obama and Holder so hell-bent to offer them more generous treatment than necessary? Posted by Ace at 03:28 PM I assume that's a rhetorical question.

Posted by: joncelli at April 05, 2011 11:48 AM (RD7QR)

59 I was for Guantanamo before I was against it!

and remember my famous quote from my campaign:

If you like your Guantanamo, you can keep your Guantanamo.

Us liberals are all about choice.. when are you wingnuts going to get on board? Huh?

Your Prez..

(Call me on the golf course if something comes up)

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 05, 2011 11:49 AM (f9c2L)

60 I thought Joe retired to Pensacola and was charter fishing on his boat. Guess I need to watch msnbc more often NOT! Mika is a scrunt for Obama always has been along with her Daddy. Who the hell cares what they say on that shitcrap network. Joe bent over a long time ago screw him.

Posted by: gesc at April 05, 2011 11:49 AM (XYtfv)

61  Bush made such a mess of everything that Obama has no choice in some cases other than continue Bush's failed policies.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 05, 2011 03:37 PM

You realize that makes no sense at all.  So you're saying it's okay because it was Bush's policy even though it was wrong?

Posted by: Deanna at April 05, 2011 11:49 AM (30l7G)

62 Democrats are Hypocrites?


News Headlines! "Dog bites man!"

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at April 05, 2011 11:50 AM (v2K2g)

63

Oh...Ellie Light, where ever you may be. BLOW ME!

 

Posted by: dananjcon at April 05, 2011 11:50 AM (pr+up)

64 @19 Soothsayer's funnin' us.

Posted by: Truman North at April 05, 2011 11:50 AM (8ay4x)

65

Is there anything left that Obama and the Left demonized Bush for, that Obama hasn't done himself, and then some? There must be sime small ones, but it seems like he's got the biggies covered:

1) Iraq - Violated campaign promise, coasting on what Bush did. Started his own little war without Congressional approval or even consultation.

2) Afghanistan - Copied Bush's "surge". Still a quagmire. OBL still on the loose.

3) Economy - Continued the Bush tax cuts that he claimed had caused the recession.

4) Torture - Continues "rendition" (although I guess waterboarding is out).

5) Transparency - Won't even so much as release his birth certificate.

6) Abu Graib - has an even worse scandal, that's also not the President's fault.

7) Gitmo - still open for business! Supposedly, though, if somebody there is acquitted, we'll keep 'em locked up anyway.

Deficits - tripled!

And that's without thinking too hard.

Posted by: Optimizer at April 05, 2011 11:51 AM (2lTU+)

66 Making sense has nothing to do with it. Obama is *trying.* Or at least trying to try. That's what's important.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 05, 2011 11:51 AM (uFokq)

67

You realize that makes no sense at all.  So you're saying it's okay because it was Bush's policy even though it was wrong?

Posted by: Deanna at April 05, 2011 03:49 PM (30l7G)

I'm pretty sure that was the point that Sooth was trying to make.

Posted by: Tami at April 05, 2011 11:52 AM (VuLos)

68

Obama , Hope and  change"

Changes mind constantly with Hope for a solution to fool the schmucks one more  time

Posted by: willow at April 05, 2011 11:52 AM (h+qn8)

69 Deficits - tripled! The smiley is priceless. Literally.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 05, 2011 11:53 AM (AZGON)

70 History begins when I take the throne.

Posted by: Scott Pelley at April 05, 2011 11:53 AM (F/4zf)

71 Obama is *trying.* Or at least trying to try. That's what's important. Posted by: Soothsayer at April 05, 2011 03:51 PM (uFokq) The new America, where EVERY president is above average!

Posted by: joncelli at April 05, 2011 11:53 AM (RD7QR)

72

Bush made such a mess of everything that Obama has no choice in some cases other than continue Bush's failed policies.

He left the Greenside Bunkers a mess.  

 If you get stuck behind a foursome containing my prdecessor, it's best to let the guys behind you play through...  

This goes double if they are campaign donors!

Posted by: Barack al Husseini Obama at April 05, 2011 11:53 AM (hki9w)

73
Is there anything left that Obama and the Left demonized Bush for, that Obama hasn't done himself, and then some?



Being an eeeeevil Republican conservative.

Although truthfully, you'd really have to squint to see W as conservative.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 05, 2011 11:54 AM (9daa6)

74 Sacrifice for thee but not for me.

Man, he loves this line doesn't he?

And yes, he did say 'get a haircut'. Please refrain from the 'landing strip' jokes.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 05, 2011 11:54 AM (pLTLS)

75 Isn't this the sam as asking for an apology from all the shitbag anti war fucks who suddenly after Jan 2009 have no problem with Iraq, Afganistan, and now bombing Libia?

Posted by: Mr Pink, with 63% more profanity. at April 05, 2011 11:54 AM (mVrjV)

76 OT:

Can someone in WI explain this last sentence to me please?

I know in Ohio you can register to vote and then vote early!  How does WI work?  Is WI the same?  If so, looks like the Dems are up to their old tricks:

The Wisconsin Supreme Court race between incumbent Justice David Prosser and Assistant Attorney General JoAnne Kloppenburg is expected to draw voters looking to use the election into a referendum on the polarizing union-rights law.

Richard Luetschwager, a retired union steelworker from Wausau, said he suspects a lot of people who are not typically interested in voting will head to the polls to make a statement about Gov. Scott Walker.

Luetschwager, 62, voted for Kloppenburg, not only for political reasons, but because he said Walker has no integrity in office and he worries anyone with similar political views may act the same way.

“I think it’s due time we all took special care (to vote) because I certainly don’t agree with what the governor did,” he said. “I think anyone who thinks like he does will rule like him.”

At The Rose Garden, voting site for District Nos. 10 and 11, chief inspector Sheryl Hemp said the site had about 210 voters a littler after 11 a.m. “It’s busier than in February,” she said.

She said there was about two to three times as many new registrants this morning compared to other elections.

Posted by: momma at April 05, 2011 11:54 AM (penCf)

77 Bush made such a mess of everything that Obama has no choice in some cases other than continue Bush's failed policies. This isn't a joke outside of blog snark. This is quite specifically what the libtards have used as an argument. The fact that it seduces some people argues that a Darwin Award is in order for homo sapiens.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 05, 2011 11:55 AM (AZGON)

78 A leopard doesn't change it's spots.  Scarborough is carrying the water for BO by getting out in front of this before the republicans do.  They feel they can minimize the impact if they just admit it and get you to move along.  Same with Trump, he's carrying the water on the birth certificate issue.  It's brilliant strategy.  Tie the republicans up with the government shutdown and new budget.  Do not work on teh budget since the republicans are doing all the work and finally make it so you can campaign and get all your "bad issues" out there before the republicans come out from under the budget.

You have to admit, it's brilliant.  Oh and send the subtly threatening message asking for donations, "are you in?"   so even if you aren't "in" you don't want anyone to know this so you give your donation.  The republicans aren't evil enough to see what's happening.

Posted by: curious at April 05, 2011 11:56 AM (k1rwm)

79

Let us not neglect to mention that - despite Obama's power to stop the oceans from rising - that he was not able to stop the earthquake in Japan, or the subsequent tsunami. Which we can only assume were both George W. Bush's fault.

So what good was elected this guy?...

Posted by: Optimizer at April 05, 2011 11:56 AM (2lTU+)

80 Posted by: momma at April 05, 2011 03:54 PM (penCf)

And just think, after reading that, the left would have you believe that tightening voting laws is specifically to disenfranchise minorities.  Instead of, you know, making sure elections are carried out justly.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 05, 2011 11:56 AM (8y9MW)

81

Hubby and I just watched this as we ate our lunch.  It was delicious.  Even though Joe is just an useful idiot.

Mika's non-verbals were yummy--the heavy sighing, adjusting herself in her chair, the scowls, frowns and furrowed brow--it was a tasty lunch.  Oh, and the sour looks on her and the bald libtard guy with the hipster douche glasses, made me want to get a lemonade.

 

Posted by: runningrn at April 05, 2011 11:56 AM (ihSHD)

82

And yes, he did say 'get a haircut'.

Oh, you can't cut this shit.

You've got to burn it back and then hit the affected area with some Knockout®.  That'll keep the regrowth down for about 48 hrs.

Posted by: Michelle Obama's Landing Strip at April 05, 2011 11:57 AM (hki9w)

83

Maybe if we start giving Team Obama a little shiny gold star (wow good job)when He finally comes to the right answer, He will be encouraged to do right and quit playing around with the countrys finances, security,  cohesiveness.

or maybe not. maybe He just blows with the polls.

Posted by: willow at April 05, 2011 11:57 AM (h+qn8)

84 Look up "cockholster" in the dictionary and there you will find a picture of Holder with a shit eating grin on his face and Soros's dick up his ass.

Posted by: maddogg at April 05, 2011 11:57 AM (OlN4e)

85

Thisss.... is the kind....of bullshits thats best left to those.....ashhole's over at the cables.

**brp**

 

Posted by: Charles 3 sheets Gibson at April 05, 2011 11:57 AM (pr+up)

86 806 days in and Barry still has not captured the tallest man in Pokestahn.

Posted by: and still counting at April 05, 2011 11:57 AM (GTbGH)

87

A leopard doesn't change it's spots.  Scarborough is carrying the water for BO by getting out in front of this before the republicans do

 

I honestly don't think Scarborough was trying to do any favors for Obama.  He was downright gleeful as he pointed out the rank hypocrisy.

Posted by: runningrn at April 05, 2011 11:58 AM (ihSHD)

88 This isn't just about inconsistency. It's about partisanship bordering on sedition and shallow, callow thinking run riot through our supposed leadership.

That's not a border, somebody just drew a line across the middle of "sedition."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 05, 2011 11:58 AM (bxiXv)

89 >>>This isn't a joke outside of blog snark. Yeah, it's what passes for a legitimate defense of Obama's incompetence and bad policy decisions. This is what we're losing to, morons. If we didn't have the Bad News Bears Republicans, we'd be killing the Democrats at the polls.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 05, 2011 11:58 AM (uFokq)

90

or maybe not. maybe He just blows with the polls.

Posted by: willow at April 05, 2011 03:57 PM (h+qn


ghat's wrong with that??

Posted by: WJC at April 05, 2011 11:59 AM (k1rwm)

91 eventually paul ryan on hannity today

Posted by: curious at April 05, 2011 11:59 AM (k1rwm)

92

She said there was about two to three times as many new registrants this morning compared to other elections.

We Get Out The Vote!

Posted by: Civil War Veterans of Wauwatosa at April 05, 2011 12:00 PM (hki9w)

93 69 Deficits - tripled!

The smiley is priceless. Literally.   ------------------------------   Er, yeah! ... Wasn't that awesome? I mean, it's not like I just put an "8" and a ")", and then it just gave me that without my trying to get it to do that ...   ;-)

Posted by: Optimizer at April 05, 2011 12:00 PM (2lTU+)

94

She said there was about two to three times as many new registrants this morning compared to other elections.

 

I see dead people, walking around...

 

WI did have that Zombie rally, after all.  We know how zombies vote.

Posted by: That Kid from The Sixth Sense at April 05, 2011 12:00 PM (ihSHD)

95 WTF?

Posted by: Communists circa August 1939 at April 05, 2011 12:00 PM (oDMwn)

96 But he's hip and cool!

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 05, 2011 12:01 PM (gJNMj)

97
History begins when I take the throne.

Posted by: Scott Pelley at April 05, 2011 03:53 PM (F/4zf)




It must really chap Ms. Slut-Dancing Perky Colonoscopy to know that she's likely to be replaced with someone as anonymous as Pelley.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 05, 2011 12:01 PM (9daa6)

98

wjc, depends on if it's msnbc/kos  polls or rasmussens

I'd like to see him Learn to do right because it is right.

Posted by: willow at April 05, 2011 12:02 PM (h+qn8)

99 Look, if Obama closes Guantanamo now...how the heck can he promise to close it on the campaign trail next year?

Posted by: Mr Badman at April 05, 2011 12:02 PM (D8pR3)

100 Yeah, it's what passes for a legitimate defense of Obama's incompetence and bad policy decisions. Seeing and hearing what Zero's supporters consider rational arguments pushes us further towards the conclusion that there is no avenue of discourse with an awful lot of people living in the Nation Below Canada. It's remarkable, working in offices populated by an industry very libtarded; you used to hear everyday how Booosh was ruining our economy with 6% UE and wars and hatred. Now, you hear nary a peep about our vastly worse circumstances. As if DC and politics didn't exist.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 05, 2011 12:02 PM (AZGON)

101 And smart! And  a great orator! And his wife's hot!

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 05, 2011 12:02 PM (gJNMj)

102 ""Today, the president is being attacked as if he were a salesman who promised us that our problems would wash off in the morning. He never made such a promise. Its time for Americans to realize governing is hard work and that a president can't just wave a magic wand and fix everything""



I'm guessing this is a sock, but if not-


What a crock of fucking moose shit. This motherfucker practically promised his farts would clear asteroids out from the path of the earth, while blaming bush for everything from house paint pealing to how flies fuck. He still blames Bush, even when he compared his pitiful coalition in Libya that can't count it's balls and come up with the same number twice to the one Bush put together. The dude is an epic failure.

Posted by: Berserker at April 05, 2011 12:02 PM (gWHrG)

103 lol just watched the clip and Mika is giving some serious nasty side-eye to Joe and looking like she is holding in some morning farts. No more under the desk blowjobs for you Joe.

Posted by: gesc at April 05, 2011 12:03 PM (XYtfv)

104 USS, those arms who can deny them.

Posted by: willow at April 05, 2011 12:03 PM (h+qn8)

105 @99 Well played, sir. You are obviously a political veteran.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 05, 2011 12:03 PM (AZGON)

106 Holder should stand on principal and resign? First Holder would have to find out what Honor and Principal are!

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 05, 2011 12:04 PM (0GFWk)

107 Odivot, didn't lie. He's an idiot.

Posted by: dogfish at April 05, 2011 12:05 PM (Jux2U)

108 Posted by: Soothsayer at April 05, 2011 03:46 PM (uFokq)

I think you're on to something. I'll make the impending roll even easier:

1. Obama, with deep regret and lots of nasty things to say, goes grudging along with the Republican "hostage takers".
2. Obama for America, MFM, and the rest of the usual suspects praise Obama for his bi-partisanship, omnipotence, and benevolence in his cooperation with the Hitler-like Republicans, while stating repeatedly and often that Republicans promised a chicken in every pot, a Volt in every driveway, a Skittle-Shitting Unicorn in every living room, next to the free flatscreen, etc.
3. Around Fall of 2011, when everyone is pissed that shit still sucks and no one got the goodies that the MFM promised, Obama for America, MFM, and the rest of the usual suspects begin the gripe campaign about how Republican Extremists held America hostage and make up an endless stream of 24/7 stories about grandma eating cat food and videos of mass graves and mud huts full of starving Ethiopian children- except the video is labeled- LIVE footage from New Orleans Boehnervilles
4. Obama swoops in after his Spring Break 2012 vacation, wearing a cape with his goatse symbol on it, with his "John Galt" plan to save us from evil Republicans- a plan that no one has ever seen and the only thing anyone knows about it is adjectives like, "Heroic", "Unprecedented", "New Hope of Change", etc.
5. John McCain and Lindsey Graham will go on TV and apologize for making Obama feel butt hurt and say that there is nothing to fear from an Obama second term.

Posted by: MSDNC at April 05, 2011 12:05 PM (3nrx7)

109 Is Barky actually going to campaign next year? If that video yesterday is any indication, he's going to phone it in and have TOTUS show up in his place.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 05, 2011 12:06 PM (pLTLS)

110 >>>Now, you hear nary a peep about our vastly worse circumstances. How about this: "Can you believe Bush is attacking Libya!?!?!?" That's what you'd be hearing from every single Democrat if Bush was doing what Obama is doing now.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 05, 2011 12:06 PM (uFokq)

111

A point I've been thinking about lately.  Not really on topic.

Both liberals and conservatives refer to those who favor the other side as "stupid".  Liberals take it a step further, saying that the reason that anyone votes for the GOP is that their messaging is better; that they are able to sell inferior policies with better messages.

Which leads liberals to think they too can sell shitty policies, if only they can sell them properly. It also leads to liberals calling out constituents and potential constiuents as stupid.

We need to stop thinking that the people on the other side are somehow tricked by liberal spin.  They're not.  They're acting out of

1) complete ignorance or

2) self-interest.

Nobody seriously believes liberal spin, except for those who have a vested interest in doing so.

Posted by: Truman North at April 05, 2011 12:06 PM (8ay4x)

112 *snicker*

Posted by: GWB at April 05, 2011 12:07 PM (XROVL)

113

Man, he loves this line doesn't he?

And yes, he did say 'get a haircut'. Please refrain from the 'landing strip' jokes.

 

Yeesh, and he mentions not tolerating cuts in Headstart and medical research (you know, the big targets of Evil Republicans)--because he cares about the children and fostering innovation.   Funny that, because the tax that's imposed on medical devices in Healthcare Reform is going to reduce medical research, and he hasn't said boo about that.  I hate him.  He's the world's biggest hypocrite.  I long for the day when he's exposed for the fraud that he is.  Alas, I don't see that happening.

Posted by: That Kid from The Sixth Sense at April 05, 2011 12:08 PM (ihSHD)

114

You guys are just trying to trick me into watching MSNBC. What channel number is that on, anyway?

The thing is, a President gets a "honeymoon" of sorts for about two years. Beyond that, they get blamed for everything, whether it's their fault or not. The "libtards" must have missed that memo. Too bad. BWA-HA-HA-HA!

The Messiah's race card is probably getting pretty worn out, too - especially after the Libya thing.

Posted by: Optimizer at April 05, 2011 12:08 PM (2lTU+)

115 If that video yesterday is any indication, he's going to phone it in and have TOTUS show up in his place. Simple economics, baby. TOTUS isn't a part of SAG or AFTRA so they hire cheap, and I can buy as many as you can afford. I send them around the world of need ruled by white man's greed and spread my campaign. Meanwhile my feet are cush in fresh Nike cleats for the putting green. It's good to be the King.

Posted by: B. Hussein Obama at April 05, 2011 12:09 PM (AZGON)

116

That's what you'd be hearing from every single Democrat if Bush was doing what Obama is doing now.

 

The libtards I run with who constantly bitched about the Iraq war haven't said a word about Libya.  I'm dying to say something, but my husband begged me to let it go.  I don't know how much longer I can hold it in.

Posted by: That Kid from The Sixth Sense at April 05, 2011 12:09 PM (ihSHD)

117 yeah, the world is burning and Sir Golfsalot is out playing with his balls.

Posted by: Berserker at April 05, 2011 12:10 PM (gWHrG)

118 OT - I wish this was an April Fool's Story

Egypt's Top Spy a U.S. Concern

Officials of the new "democratic" Egypt going to visit the Assad regime?  Doesn't sound good at all. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 05, 2011 12:10 PM (9hSKh)

119 Oh and the LA Times was plugging his damn reelection website yesterday. That's the official nail in the coffin of *ever* seeing that Rashid Khalidi video.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 05, 2011 12:10 PM (pLTLS)

120 Why are we all still married to people who demand that politeness trumps politics?

Posted by: Truman North at April 05, 2011 12:11 PM (8ay4x)

121 Sir Golfsalot is out playing with his balls. Not without signing for them at the vault. I'm in charge and don't you forget it.

Posted by: FLOTUS at April 05, 2011 12:11 PM (AZGON)

122 Anybody notice that King Barack is back to giving speeches all the time, now that he doesn't have a justification of a non-war to not give us?

Posted by: Optimizer at April 05, 2011 12:12 PM (2lTU+)

123 116 - it is so sad how this Prez has divided people when he said he was going to bring everyone together. I have a niece who I cannot even talk to anymore. Her husband is a professor and they are all Obama all the time. She almost called me a nazi for not voting for him. We have not spoken much since the election. Thank G-d she is the only one in my family who became a drooler.

Posted by: gesc at April 05, 2011 12:13 PM (XYtfv)

124
Officials of the new "democratic" Egypt going to visit the Assad regime?  Doesn't sound good at all.

BFD

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at April 05, 2011 12:13 PM (oDMwn)

125

The thing is, a President gets a "honeymoon" of sorts for about two years

 

Really?  I know I wasn't really paying attention back then, but I distinctly remember Bush being attacked from Day 1 (screams of his illegitimacy and being selected not elected).  He got a short reprieve right after 9/11, but maybe just a week or so before people were harping on his "My Pet Goat Moment" and the anti-war movement ratcheted up against going into Afghanistan.  (I remember being asked to sign the ANSER petition against it, which I declined to do).  Thing is, Democrats are always held to a much lower standard than Republicans, and Obama's been particularly coddled and promoted by the MFM.  It's completely unprecedented.

Posted by: runningrn at April 05, 2011 12:13 PM (ihSHD)

126 Too bad this shitbrick isn't going to have to debate until after september 2012 when we wind up with whatever pussy cowardly squish we pick that will dare not challenge him.  I think it would be hilarious to watch him defend his policies against a liberal hack that could beat him over the head with his own 2008 campaign rhetoric.

Posted by: buzzion at April 05, 2011 12:13 PM (oVQFe)

127 I wouldn't touch FLOTUS with a 10' font.

Posted by: TOTUS at April 05, 2011 12:14 PM (GwPRU)

128

Why were/are Obama and Holder so hell-bent to offer them more generous treatment than necessary?

 

Why could 53% of our fellow countrymen not figure this shit out for themselves back in the fall of '08?

Posted by: pendejo grande at April 05, 2011 12:15 PM (nhGPo)

129 6 Scarborough is David Brooks without the veneer of fake sophistication. Posted by: Cicero

Where is Scarborough on Obama's pant leg crease? I think we deserve to know.

Posted by: kansas at April 05, 2011 12:15 PM (mka2b)

130 Juan williams on hannity saying the wire services and everyone has come out saying that Ryan's budget is going to add a trillion to the deficit.  And Varney and sean are shocked and unable to respond.

Posted by: curious at April 05, 2011 12:15 PM (k1rwm)

131 I don't think Zero will campaign at all next year, outside of a few televised speeches with vague references to his opponents. His surrogates will do the dirty work of actual campagning, while Zero strikes poses with his nose in the air. And they and Zero will be slaughtered. Then he will write his next book: "How the Klan acting as the TEA party destroyed his presidency".

Posted by: maddogg at April 05, 2011 12:15 PM (OlN4e)

132

Socialists acting like socialists--shocka!

We peons can't do much about Maobama until Nov 2012. but we can go to work on that little slice of the 52% we all know. they did the same thing Obama did. Bush was a war criminal; and Obama is a brave leader. Make them eat their words. They are socialist frauds.

Posted by: Snort! at April 05, 2011 12:15 PM (K/USr)

133 82

And yes, he did say 'get a haircut'.

Oh, you can't cut this shit.

You've got to burn it back and then hit the affected area with some Knockout®.  That'll keep the regrowth down for about 48 hrs.

Posted by: Michelle Obama's Landing Strip at April 05, 2011 03:57 PM (hki9w)

Better yet, a good drenching of Agent Orange should do the job...

Posted by: vietnamese gardener at April 05, 2011 12:16 PM (YVZlY)

134 Did I hear "cheap points"?  It's campaign time and I'm dancin' with the starz, baby!

Posted by: BHOroscope at April 05, 2011 12:16 PM (kb0wl)

135 abc news played a clip of some dem screaming that "they are privatizing medicare and that will hurt all the old people who are angry"....shades of things to come?

Posted by: curious at April 05, 2011 12:17 PM (k1rwm)

136

It must really chap Ms. Slut-Dancing Perky Colonoscopy to know that she's likely to be replaced with someone as anonymous as Pelley.

 

It chaps my  hide that she's being rewarded for her failure with a sweet afternoon tv gig.  They are prognosticating that she will be able to successfully fill Oprah's slot. 

Oprah's absence will leave a big void.  I hope Katie tanks.  I hope Oprah's new venture tanks (already not looking good).  I hope they all tank.  Mofos saddled us with Sir Gaffs A Lot. 

Posted by: runningrn at April 05, 2011 12:17 PM (ihSHD)

137 Juan williams on hannity saying the wire services and everyone has come out saying that Ryan's budget is going to add a trillion to the deficit. And Varney and sean are shocked and unable to respond. Posted by: curious at April 05, 2011 04:15 PM (k1rwm) And you wonder why we fired him?

Posted by: NPR at April 05, 2011 12:18 PM (0GFWk)

138 I bet my friend two grand that the republicans will debate but whoever is nominated will never debate the president.  He'll have excuses, he's the presdient and it's hard work.

Posted by: curious at April 05, 2011 12:18 PM (k1rwm)

139 Juan williams on hannity saying the wire services and everyone has come out saying that Ryan's budget is going to add a trillion to the deficit. Eh? Come again? And it will cost us another trillion if the government doesn't buy every citizen a condo with a swimming pool. Sheesh.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 05, 2011 12:18 PM (AZGON)

140 My wife tells me Oprah is a life long Republican, but she lies to me all the time....

Posted by: maddogg at April 05, 2011 12:18 PM (OlN4e)

141 Alan Simpson on FOX-- who knew he was still alive

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 05, 2011 12:19 PM (0GFWk)

142

Too bad this shitbrick isn't going to have to debate until after september 2012

 

Truthfully, depending on who the candidate is, I can see Obama weasling out of the debates under the guise that he has "more important stuff to do running this country."  Mark my words.  It will be, of course, unprecedented, but the  media will play right along.

Posted by: runningrn at April 05, 2011 12:19 PM (ihSHD)

143

Oprah's absence will leave a big void. 

Yeah, her absence leaves a big void.

Posted by: Oprah at April 05, 2011 12:19 PM (8ay4x)

144 My wife tells me Oprah is a life long Republican, but she lies to me all the time.... Posted by: maddogg at April 05, 2011 04:18 PM (OlN4e) You said she was your wife, no need to tell us she lies to you?

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 05, 2011 12:20 PM (0GFWk)

145 Curious, you have fabulously, fast fingers!

Posted by: runningrn at April 05, 2011 12:20 PM (ihSHD)

146 Fuck!  that would have been funny if I was able to finish the post before it went up.  Stupid fat fingers.

Posted by: Truman North at April 05, 2011 12:20 PM (8ay4x)

147 No, I'm kidding, it wouldn't have been all that funny.

Posted by: Truman North at April 05, 2011 12:20 PM (8ay4x)

148 Wait, did someone just put 'Eric Holder' and 'principle' in the same sentence?

Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at April 05, 2011 12:20 PM (GBXon)

149 140 My wife tells me Oprah is a life long Republican, but she lies to me all the time....

Posted by: maddogg at April 05, 2011 04:18 PM (OlN4e

I'd have laughed in your wife's face.  She licked Obama's feet constantly, and then refused to have Palin on, because she didn't want to "politicize" her show.

Posted by: buzzion at April 05, 2011 12:20 PM (oVQFe)

150

116 The libtards I run with who constantly bitched about the Iraq war haven't said a word about Libya.

My own experience is that when Libya is brought up they immediately start into Bush-bashing. When you say, "That's nice, but Bush left office a long time ago - what about Obama and this Libya thing?" they will continue with the Bush-bashing cliche. It's actually pretty funny to witness.

Another thing they do is complain about the cost of Libya. Now the DoD spends $2B a DAY, normally, but suddenly $0.5B is all-important. Never mind that Federal spending is something like $2500.0B per year, with $1000.0B+ in deficit spending - that they deny is a crisis. I figure they feel betrayed by Obama, but just can't bring themselves to criticize him in a substantive way.

Posted by: Optimizer at April 05, 2011 12:21 PM (2lTU+)

151 I have to appologize for not closing GITMO yet. But as has been said here I didn't have all the info needed for that decision while I was campaigning.

Who knew GITMO had a golf course?

As soon as I get a chance to play it I will then decide GITMO's fate.

Posted by: Barak H Obama at April 05, 2011 12:21 PM (tf9Ne)

152 Wait, did someone just put 'Eric Holder' and 'principle' in the same sentence? Sure, that's perfectly correct. Example: "Eric Holder should be dipped in a vat of sheep dung and hosed with goose feathers, on principle alone."

Posted by: George Orwell at April 05, 2011 12:21 PM (AZGON)

153 Why are we all still married to people who demand that politeness trumps politics?

The Jade Gate.

Posted by: dick cheese at April 05, 2011 12:22 PM (GTbGH)

154 Alan Simpson on FOX-- who knew he was still alive

Posted by: nevergiveup

Who says that he's alive?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 05, 2011 12:23 PM (6rX0K)

155 ...sean are shocked and unable to respond.

Posted by: curious at April 05, 2011

Sean Hannity flummoxed?  The deuce you say. He is a fine chap, but a trifle slow on the uptake.

Posted by: Victorian throwback guy what says the deuce you say. at April 05, 2011 12:23 PM (oDMwn)

156 My wife does not expect politeness, but she prays I'll some day stop pissing in the yard.

Posted by: maddogg at April 05, 2011 12:24 PM (OlN4e)

157 That thing Peter King said... made my wiener tingle.

Posted by: Dang at April 05, 2011 12:24 PM (TXKVh)

158 OT -- Meet the Greater Boston Labor Council leader Rich Rogers:
 
’And to the Republican party of Massachusetts, if you think this is gonna happen here, it is going to be over thousands of dead people’s bodies. If you think Wisconsin was anything, we need to stop these guys in their tracks now and kill their bills at the State house.”
 
More of the new civility in action.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 05, 2011 12:24 PM (ENKCw)

159
So who do I call if my schadenboner lasts more than 4 hours?

Posted by: runningrn at April 05, 2011 12:24 PM (ihSHD)

160 Hmm. Where I come from a "deuce" is something between you and your bathroom. But Sean is a trifle slow, I confess.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 05, 2011 12:25 PM (AZGON)

161 My wife does not expect politeness, but she prays I'll some day stop pissing in the yard. Posted by: maddogg at April 05, 2011 04:24 PM (OlN4e) Shit she is high class

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 05, 2011 12:25 PM (0GFWk)

162 But if I resigned, then who would represent My People?

Posted by: Eric Holder at April 05, 2011 12:25 PM (UvFnc)

163 159
So who do I call if my schadenboner lasts more than 4 hours?
  Call your sister.  She could use some of that

Posted by: Truman North at April 05, 2011 12:25 PM (8ay4x)

164 #149
Actually there is good reason to believe that Oprah-mas exposure on her huge-audience show helped Obama early on in getting the Democrat nomination, and its even possible that without that exposure and her enthusiastic endorsement he wouldn't have gotten the nomination.

 

Posted by: looking closely at April 05, 2011 12:26 PM (6Q9g2)

165 So who do I call if my schadenboner lasts more than 4 hours? A worthy vessel. If you get my drift.

Posted by: George Orwell at April 05, 2011 12:26 PM (AZGON)

166 142

Too bad this shitbrick isn't going to have to debate until after september 2012

 

Truthfully, depending on who the candidate is, I can see Obama weasling out of the debates under the guise that he has "more important stuff to do running this country."  Mark my words.  It will be, of course, unprecedented, but the  media will play right along.

Posted by: runningrn at April 05, 2011 04:19 PM (ihSHD)

And I think if he does try and pull that then whoever the GOP candidate is should say, "Hey, I understand he's got important things to do, but I'm sure I can fit 18 holes on my schedule at the same time he has it."

But no I expect him to debate.  It will just be done a minimum number of times so he can't be accused of dodging debating.  So you know, 2 debates. One with Stephanopolous as moderator, and then one with Brian Williams.

Posted by: buzzion at April 05, 2011 12:26 PM (oVQFe)

167  156 My wife does not expect politeness, but she prays I'll some day stop pissing in the yard. Posted by: maddogg

Yeah,  my wife wants me to stop pissing in the shower.  But she was almost done in there anyway and it keeps her from using all the hot water.

Posted by: Dang at April 05, 2011 12:26 PM (TXKVh)

168 My wife does not expect politeness, but she prays I'll some day stop pissing in the yard.
Posted by: maddogg at April 05, 2011 04:24 PM (OlN4e)

Front or back yard? If we're talking front, then she's high class indeed. If she's including the backyard, she is not only unreasonable, but she's preventing the use of organic herbicides.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 05, 2011 12:27 PM (6rX0K)

169

144 My wife tells me Oprah is a life long Republican, but she lies to me all the time....

That's a good one, so here's another. My brother says that the Air Force Times "caters to" conservative military people.

These guys remind me of a joke where St. Peter shows someone new around Heaven, and instructs them to be quiet as they approach a certain section. (Apologies to anyone who knows that joke, and doesn't care for being on the wrong end of it.) The point is about people who live in their own little world, not recognizing that there people out there who look at things differently. In our case, they even do this, while claiming to be "intellectual".

Posted by: Optimizer at April 05, 2011 12:27 PM (2lTU+)

170

Actually there is good reason to believe that Oprah-mas exposure on her huge-audience show helped Obama early on in getting the Democrat nomination, and its even possible that without that exposure and her enthusiastic endorsement he wouldn't have gotten the nomination.

Yeah, wasn't that one of her "Favorite Things" show? 

Posted by: runningrn at April 05, 2011 12:28 PM (ihSHD)

171 My wife does not expect politeness, but she prays I'll some day stop pissing in the yard. Posted by: maddogg at April 05, 2011 04:24 PM (OlN4e) Front or back yard? If we're talking front, then she's high class indeed. If she's including the backyard, she is not only unreasonable, but she's preventing the use of organic herbicides. Posted by: Blue Hen at April 05, 2011 04:27 PM (6rX0K) Ya know I like coming here, because I need a good laugh during the day

Posted by: nevergiveup at April 05, 2011 12:28 PM (0GFWk)

172 #138

I'll take a piece of that.


It probably won't be three debates, and it will be probably be in a highly controlled forum, with no possible surprises, but Obama will definitely debate the Republican nominee.  

For that not to happen would be unprecedented, and ducking a debate would look really bad. 

Besides, Obama is totally in love with the sound of his own voice.  When does he NOT want to be on TV talking?

Posted by: looking closely at April 05, 2011 12:29 PM (6Q9g2)

173 My wife does not expect politeness, but she prays I'll some day stop pissing in the yard. Posted by: maddogg

Yeah,  my wife wants me to stop pissing in the shower.  But she was almost done in there anyway and it keeps her from using all the hot water.

Posted by: Dang

oink.

I'm standing by your wives.

Posted by: willow at April 05, 2011 12:29 PM (h+qn8)

174 So who do I call if my schadenboner lasts more than 4 hours?

I usually call Reggie Love or Kal Penn at that point.

Posted by: B. Hussein Oboner at April 05, 2011 12:29 PM (p05LM)

175

But no I expect him to debate.  It will just be done a minimum number of times so he can't be accused of dodging debating.  So you know, 2 debates. One with Stephanopolous as moderator, and then one with Brian Williams.

 

Brian will have his enchanting "O" face on.

I just hope those boys bring their jizz cloths and drool cups.

Posted by: runningrn at April 05, 2011 12:30 PM (ihSHD)

176 New campaign slogan: "We are the ones we're still waiting for!"

Posted by: Optimizer at April 05, 2011 12:30 PM (2lTU+)

177 And ironically enough, right after Oprah went all-in on Barky her ratings dropped  something crazy - like 15% or 20%. Sadly, we got him. At least she lost her gig.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 05, 2011 12:31 PM (pLTLS)

178

looking closely

remember during last debates when His answers were crappy, and He'd say wait a minute let me add this, no wait a minute give me a few more minutes, while challenger stood there.

media will help him.

Posted by: willow at April 05, 2011 12:31 PM (h+qn8)

179

Besides, Obama is totally in love with the sound of his own voice.  When does he NOT want to be on TV talking?

 

Yeah, but I don't see him having the patience to sit there and wait for someone else to give their opinion.  (Now that he's president, I think he has less tolerance for that sort of thing).


Posted by: runningrn at April 05, 2011 12:31 PM (ihSHD)

180 "At least she lost her gig. Posted by: laceyunderalls " Is she on food stamps? Then what does it matter. These people are so damn rich, they can be as dumb in public as they wish.

Posted by: moi at April 05, 2011 12:33 PM (s7C19)

181 Posted by: Optimizer at April 05, 2011 04:27 PM (2lTU+)

As a member of the Church of Christ, I happen to think it's hilarious. 

For those who don't know, the short version is St. Peter takes this newly ascended soul on the tour, showing him where the different denominations get together.  They're all partying and having fun.  Then they get to a little section that's all somber and quiet, and the newbie asks "Whose place is this?"

St. Peter responds, "SHHH!  That's the Church of Christ.  They don't think anyone else is here."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 05, 2011 12:33 PM (8y9MW)

182

Yeah,  my wife wants me to stop pissing in the shower.

We have a little pro-team garden gnome--one evening after they blew a game and I blew a sixpack, I went out and pissed all over it.

To my horror a few minutes later she was holding it up showing it to some company. Then she dropped it.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 05, 2011 12:33 PM (gJNMj)

183 "We Are The Ones We Were Bitching And Moaning About."

Posted by: Dang at April 05, 2011 12:33 PM (TXKVh)

184

"Taking joy from other people's boners?  I really don't find that 'better'.......There's only one boner I like...and that's MINE."

No, no, no, a schadenboner is the stiffy you get when watching someone you despise screw up.

It's German, not Austrian.

Posted by: gebrauchshund at April 05, 2011 12:33 PM (iYwUw)

185 wonder if chris mathews will be the moderator next time around, i know He would like to help Obama, it would be only fair.

Posted by: willow at April 05, 2011 12:34 PM (h+qn8)

186 Lacey, she took herself off.  She's started a new network OWN.  She got the biggest endorsement deal from Procter and Gamble.  I hope she fails.

Posted by: runningrn at April 05, 2011 12:35 PM (ihSHD)

187 I don't even know what to say about this.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 05, 2011 12:35 PM (pLTLS)

188

Comrades, Barry has always been for the military tribunals at Gitmo and Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 05, 2011 12:36 PM (1Jaio)

189 181 - lol that made me laugh. As a Catholic (yes, we get drunk on Saturday night and go to mass on Sunday) in a sea of Church of Christ people in my area I totally understand your post.

Posted by: gesc at April 05, 2011 12:37 PM (XYtfv)

190 Whether Dear Leader will agree to a presidential debate, I think, depends on the candidate we end up with.  If it's Fuckabee or Romney, he'll debate.  If it's Herman Caine, Rand Paul, or Sarah Palin, then no.  He'll be too engrossed in his presidentin'. 

Posted by: GWB at April 05, 2011 12:38 PM (XROVL)

191 187 I don't even know what to say about this. Posted by: laceyunderalls at April 05, 2011 04:35 PM (pLTLS) "Gah!" springs to mind, along with "Oh my God!" and "What the..."

Posted by: joncelli at April 05, 2011 12:38 PM (RD7QR)

192 #178 & 179

Frankly, I think Obama, sucked at the Presidential debates (all of them).  Unfortunately, this wasn't quite as apparent as it could have been since McCain was pretty lousy too.

A knowledgeable and skilled debater could probably make mincemeat of Obama in a "real" debate, and there are at least several of the current crop of potential Republican nominees who could do it, I think.

Unlike the last debates, where Obama could basically conjure up any fantasy he liked, this time, he'll actually have to respond to specific items from his record during his first term.

Posted by: looking closely at April 05, 2011 12:38 PM (PwGfd)

193

To my horror a few minutes later she was holding it up showing it to some company. Then she dropped it.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 05, 2011 04:33 PM (gJNMj)

Blame it on the dog, thats what I do.

Posted by: maddogg at April 05, 2011 12:39 PM (OlN4e)

194 Posted by: Rocks at April 05, 2011 03:45 PM (Q1lie)

Do you need help getting that hook out of your gullet?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 05, 2011 12:39 PM (LH6ir)

195
1.  If your wife doesn't agree with everything you say, gift her with a Dutch Oven.

2.  Blame it on the dog, then off to Vinny's for the week along with your trusty dog.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 05, 2011 12:39 PM (ZHsNw)

196

 I don't even know what to say about this.

I'd hit it except for the head knots.

Posted by: USS Diversity at April 05, 2011 12:40 PM (gJNMj)

197

So who do I call if my schadenboner lasts more than 4 hours?

Your girlfriend.

Posted by: Chinese viagra at April 05, 2011 12:40 PM (oZl5+)

198 Wasn't the Schadenschwanstucker a German torpedo bomber?

Posted by: Dang at April 05, 2011 12:40 PM (TXKVh)

199 The socks are exceptionally unruly today.

Posted by: Soona at April 05, 2011 12:41 PM (XROVL)

200 199 The socks are exceptionally unruly today. Posted by: Soona

Oh,  fuck you.

Posted by: That guy who got kicked off Facebook for saying "Oh, fuck you" too much at April 05, 2011 12:44 PM (TXKVh)

201 I am not sure why people are convinced that debates are all that worthwhile. I am sure that you conjure up a scenario where some sharp tongued person could tie Obama up in knots. Now, imagine a news network that would put that debate together. A lot harder, isn't it. Whatever the perceived strength of the Republican candidate in debating, the press or League of Women Voters or whoever else will put some thing together that nullifies it. Debates don't matter all that much. I mean, Jeebus, does anyone remember anything President Obama said in his debates, either in the primary or the general?

Posted by: blaster at April 05, 2011 12:44 PM (Fw2Gg)

202

 

"We are the ones they've been grating on."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 05, 2011 12:46 PM (QMtmy)

203 So who do I call if my schadenboner lasts more than 4 hours? Well, I know what MY procedure is in those cases.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Borderline Rapist at April 05, 2011 12:50 PM (OW0nw)

204 #201

I remember more of the Biden-Palin debate, but yeah, I do remember some of the McCain-Obama debates as well.

But your general point is good.

Debates are mostly good theater for political junkies.  They sometimes produce good sound bites ("You're no Jack Kennedy". . . "I won't make an issue of my opponent's youth and inexperience").

But in terms of truly undecided voters listening in, then making up their mind solely or even largely based on what said in the debates. . .there really can't be many times where that actually applies.

Posted by: looking closely at April 05, 2011 12:51 PM (6Q9g2)

205 116

That's what you'd be hearing from every single Democrat if Bush was doing what Obama is doing now.

 

The libtards I run with who constantly bitched about the Iraq war haven't said a word about Libya.  I'm dying to say something, but my husband begged me to let it go.  I don't know how much longer I can hold it in.

Posted by: That Kid from The Sixth Sense at April 05, 2011 04:09 PM (ihSHD)

Don't let it go. These fuckers deserve every single minute of it. They set the standard; we need to hold these dickwads to it, and expose them for the traitors they are. This was never about principled disagreement - it was ALWAYS about regaining power, no matter the cost.

Posted by: blindside at April 05, 2011 12:51 PM (x7g7t)

206

"This is the moment when the rise of the oceans begins to slow and our plant began to heal."

-Barack Hussein Obama

The most megalomaniacal comment ever from an aspirant to the White House.  Obama is seriously mentally challenged.  Who believes Obama is not a narcissistic sociopath?

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at April 05, 2011 12:54 PM (ZHsNw)

207 Posted by: gesc at April 05, 2011 04:37 PM (XYtfv)

I have a ton of Church of Christ jokes.  And I've been a member of the CoC since I was born.

I really like a comment a preacher friend of my family once told a bunch of Elders who were throwing a fit over having a Christian band (you know, with instruments and everything) give a concert: "Why is it that everyone else calls their main meeting hall a Sanctuary, but threats it like an auditorium, and we call it an auditorium, but treat it like a sanctuary?"

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at April 05, 2011 12:55 PM (8y9MW)

208

201 I remember that bit about inflating my tires...which doesn't seem to have dropped the price of gas any... (wait...that wasn't in a debate).

Ok, he was always calling McCain "John"; I remember that. (honestly I've pretty much avoided his presence on the tv ...there's always the risk that he'll crawl out of the screen)

Posted by: unknown jane at April 05, 2011 12:57 PM (5/yRG)

209 203 Copying everything Marilyn Manson does is perhaps not the wisest path to take in life you know.  Pretty sure it isn't healthy for a person, even you.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 05, 2011 12:59 PM (5/yRG)

210 Anyone seen Diogenes' Lamp today? 

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 05, 2011 01:21 PM (xMT+4)

211 204 #201

I remember more of the Biden-Palin debate, but yeah, I do remember some of the McCain-Obama debates as well.

But your general point is good.

Debates are mostly good theater for political junkies.  They sometimes produce good sound bites ("You're no Jack Kennedy". . . "I won't make an issue of my opponent's youth and inexperience").

But in terms of truly undecided voters listening in, then making up their mind solely or even largely based on what said in the debates. . .there really can't be many times where that actually applies.

Posted by: looking closely at April 05, 2011 04:51 PM (6Q9g2)

This is what I remember about the McCain Obama debates:

Joe the Plumber

Joe the Plumber

Joe the Plumber

Joe the Plumber

Joe the Plumber

Posted by: buzzion at April 05, 2011 01:31 PM (oVQFe)

212 209 203 Copying everything Marilyn Manson does is perhaps not the wisest path to take in life you know. Pretty sure it isn't healthy for a person, even you.

Posted by: unknown jane at April 05, 2011 04:59 PM (5/yRG)

I just want to copy the "getting married to Deeta von Teese" part, but not the dumbass "cheating on Deeta von Teese" part.

Oh, I should copy the "stinking rich" part as well, while I'm at it.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at April 05, 2011 04:37 PM (bxiXv)

213

213 Ditta was overrated...she tried to combine Bettie Page with Tura Satana with Gypsy Lee, and she never really managed to pull off matching any of those gals.

 

Posted by: unknown jane at April 05, 2011 06:33 PM (5/yRG)

214 As Ann Coulter has noted the commie-libs never supported the fight against the enemy at the time the fight was happening.  It's only after the fact when they "grow"and recognize the fight was the right thing to do.  It;s like the baby-boomers with free love and widepread drug use.  When they are wrecking the country with free love and drugs they call you stupid for not agreeing free love and drugs will improve the country.  Then 40 years later when they have lung cancer and more STDs than a hooker and they wise up they demand credit for "discovering" the wisdom in conventional society.

They are evil, and whether they know they are spreading evil is beside the point.  It doesn't matter if the crazy guy on the airplane wants to open the emergency exits in flight for fresh air or because he is a terrorist.  His actions threaten us all.  The Mayberry Americans willfully ignore the danger from the Left with the insipid "they just don't understand."  If they don't understand after the 20th century, they don't want to understand.

Posted by: Scott M at April 06, 2011 02:37 AM (N8kML)

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