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December 08, 2011

Shots Fired Again On Virginia Tech Campus
— Ace

White man in gray sweatpants and maroon hoodie.

A spree-killer killed 32 on the campus in 2007.

Students have been advised to get in their rooms and stay there.

Posted by: Ace at 09:13 AM | Comments (87)
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1 Youths.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at December 08, 2011 09:15 AM (QKKT0)

2 Virginia Tech says shots were reportedly fired near a campus parking lot and authorities have told students to stay inside. The school has a bulletin on their website, which says authorities are looking for a suspect described as a white male, wearing gray sweat pants, a gray hat with a neon green brim, maroon hoodie and a backpack. It says the suspect is on foot and headed towards McComas Hall, the main gym on campus which is about two blocks from Lane Stadium. The school has been placed on lockdown. www.wusa9.com

Posted by: tasker at December 08, 2011 09:16 AM (r2PLg)

3 I guess Fast and Furious made it north.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at December 08, 2011 09:17 AM (AZGON)

4
well, it is time for finals

very stressful time on campus

Posted by: soothsayer at December 08, 2011 09:17 AM (sqkOB)

5 I was attending during the last incident. I've heard it was a cop shot? Not that that's great, but I hope it's limited to that, and not a massacre like the other time.

Posted by: JoeInMD at December 08, 2011 09:17 AM (Xwgt3)

6 fuck.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 08, 2011 09:17 AM (h6mPj)

7 NEWS 7 Web Staff 12:31 p.m. EST, December 8, 2011 BLACKSBURG, Va.Â— UDPATED 1:10 p.m.: There is another crime scene near the Duck Pond. --------------------- UPDATED 1:00 p.m.: NEWS7 reporter Karen Kiley is reporting that a police officer is the one who has been shot. follow the links for the updates-kind of unverified. wdbj7.com is the source for this.

Posted by: tasker at December 08, 2011 09:18 AM (r2PLg)

8 good thing all those law abiding students can defend themselves with their 2nd amendment ri.... oh yeah, they can't. well at least they've been warned so they can cower in fear in a classroom. I mean that's the next best thing to being able to protect yourself.

Posted by: Bannor, would the real Not-Romney please stand up! at December 08, 2011 09:18 AM (6AXh/)

9 The commuter parking lot known as "the Cage" is far from the other buildings, fwiw.

Posted by: JoeInMD at December 08, 2011 09:18 AM (Xwgt3)

10 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 08, 2011 09:19 AM (8y9MW)

11 Well, far from most. The duck pond is also out of the way.

Posted by: JoeInMD at December 08, 2011 09:19 AM (Xwgt3)

12 Man, it's a good thing VA Tech is a gun-free zone, huh?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 08, 2011 09:19 AM (8y9MW)

13 I hate to make political hay off this, but these gun free zones really do attract violence.

I don't think most of these people would even consider doing this if they didn't have some assurance of this God Mode of having a gun where almost no one else can.

Loughner was basically the exception to the rule.

So sad. I know the last shooting there has been a clarion call against legalizing guns on campus, but if I were up at Va Tech right now, I would probably wish I had a pistol on me. Not so I could run around and play hero, but because I'm a law abiding man who wants to be able to protect myself.

Posted by: Dustin at December 08, 2011 09:21 AM (rQ/Ue)

14 I'm a little fuzzy on the order of VT's alerts on their home page. It sounds like the incident moved from the Coliseum lot (near some big dorms) to the Cage? That would be good news. Or I'm reading them backwards, which would be awful.

Posted by: JoeInMD at December 08, 2011 09:22 AM (Xwgt3)

15 Oh, now I see time stamps on them.

Posted by: JoeInMD at December 08, 2011 09:22 AM (Xwgt3)

16 My daughter found a kevlar clip board on line. I think they need to be standard issue at VT now. Two shooters in two year. That is just awful. God bless the cop.

Posted by: moki at December 08, 2011 09:26 AM (dZmFh)

17 It sounds like the incident moved from the Coliseum lot (near some big dorms) to the Cage? That would be good news

Would "the Cage" be closer to the edge of Campus? If so, that being "good news" might depend on the situation. It's possible the gunman simply left so he could go around the campus- or is looking for some other victims somewhere.

Basically, the only good news I'll herald as such is "We got him."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 08, 2011 09:26 AM (8y9MW)

18 Two shooters in two year.

Ummm... 4 years. But your point stands.

Of course, I think getting rid of that ridiculous "Gun Free Zone" would help immensely.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 08, 2011 09:27 AM (8y9MW)

19 Well, at least it means he didn't head into the center of campus.

Posted by: JoeInMD at December 08, 2011 09:28 AM (Xwgt3)

20 Well, at least it means he didn't head into the center of campus.

True. I'm just a cynic.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 08, 2011 09:30 AM (8y9MW)

21 People flip the fuck out during finals. Jesus, it's not worth it.

(of course I'm assuming it was a student)

Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 08, 2011 09:30 AM (pLTLS)

22 So wasn't today the day that VT was appealing the $50k fine that they got for the last shooting? Heard that on the radio this morning.

Posted by: isostan at December 08, 2011 09:31 AM (fO2nN)

Its almost as if these crazed shooters realize nobody on campus will have a gun and be capable of shooting back.

Not sure how they would know this... except of course for the signs posted stating the campus is a target rich environment gun free zone.

Posted by: AndrewsDad at December 08, 2011 09:32 AM (C2//T)

24 When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns.

Posted by: Jester at December 08, 2011 09:34 AM (rc1Pq)

25 Yes, here it is:

WASHINGTON (AP) Â— More than four years after a shooting rampage at Virginia Tech, an Education Department official said at an administrative hearing Wednesday that the university should have acted more quickly to notify students and faculty of a security threat on campus.

Posted by: isostan at December 08, 2011 09:35 AM (fO2nN)

26 Meh, I've never put links in before. Just google it.

Posted by: isostan at December 08, 2011 09:36 AM (fO2nN)

27 Where's a cannon when you need it?

Posted by: t-bird at December 08, 2011 09:37 AM (FcR7P)

28
Police officer reported to have been shot and killed.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 08, 2011 09:37 AM (JYheX)

29 The basic orientation of the Tech central campus means that the first shooting occurred right across the street where most of the dorms are located. The second shooting location means that the guy moved northwest and away from the main campus. This isn't a great thing because there are several roads and bike paths that lead from"the cage" into the center of the massive apartment complexes that us off-campus students live in. It takes about 25 minutes walking or 10 minutes running to get from the second shooting location into the middle of these complexes. I personally am sitting here with the apartment buttoned up and the Python in hand.

Posted by: lost_in_sauce at December 08, 2011 09:40 AM (aefVM)

30 What wuz the shooter shouting as he fired?

Posted by: I am the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joo at December 08, 2011 09:40 AM (ndp2I)

31 Lost in Sauce, sorry you're so close to this.

Just keep your nose down.

Posted by: Dustin at December 08, 2011 09:42 AM (rQ/Ue)

32 Again, EPIC FAIL on academia's purported "gun free" and "safe" zones. It's all a big lie...but they meant well.

Posted by: PJ at December 08, 2011 09:43 AM (DQHjw)

33 From BRT - Virginia Tech suspect being apprehended on steps of performing arts building on College Ave @CollegiateTimes is reporting

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2011 09:44 AM (9hSKh)

Needless to say, the responsibility for this bloodshed falls on Sarah Palin. Or Glenn Beck. Or Bill O'Reilly...

Posted by: The Real Paul Krugman at December 08, 2011 09:44 AM (wHj25)

35 Ugh. Also, the maroon hoodie isn't much of an identifier since that's the school color. Half the campus is probably wearing a maroon hoodie right now.

I went to summer camp at VaTech back early in high school. Love the place. Had a great summer camp romance with a hot chick and played Dungeons and Dragons for the first time. Pretty much the greatest summer of my ife.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at December 08, 2011 09:45 AM (QcFbt)

36 I've got the Roanoke/Blacksburg local news on. I will give some updates.

Cops from around region pouring in.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 09:45 AM (AM+sr)

37
Fox reports suspect caught.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 08, 2011 09:47 AM (JYheX)

38 Fox reports suspect caught.

See: that's good news.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 08, 2011 09:47 AM (8y9MW)

39 Individual still at large.

Local news anchor wearing a thin sweater and it appears she is not wearing a bra.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 09:49 AM (AM+sr)

40 The peril of getting news in real-time. BRT - Update: @CollegiateTimes now reporting person who surrendered at Performance Arts Building is not under arrest.

Pray for everyone at VT.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2011 09:49 AM (9hSKh)

41 33 From BRT - Virginia Tech suspect being apprehended on steps of performing arts building on College Ave @CollegiateTimes is reporting

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at December 08, 2011 01:44 PM (9hSKh)

Thanks for the link. College Ave is on the other side of campus from the Cage. I'm curious how the pursuit led over there.

Posted by: JoeInMD at December 08, 2011 09:49 AM (Xwgt3)

42 Collegiate Times says that wasn't the guy on the steps of the fine arts bldg. Now that the school was fined for not giving enough information, they give too much info (check out the twitter feed, it's back and forth crazy, the shooter might as well be anywhere). Feed says someone was running under a hall. Super - who isn't?

Posted by: isostan at December 08, 2011 09:51 AM (fO2nN)

43 38 Fox reports suspect caught.

See: that's good news.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 08, 2011 01:47 PM (8y9MW)

New reports of shots near an academic building. As said earlier, the reports of a capture might be premature.

Posted by: JoeInMD at December 08, 2011 09:52 AM (Xwgt3)

44 Routine traffic stop. Policeman shot by driver. Driver fled on foot. 2nd person found dead.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 09:53 AM (AM+sr)

45 Fortunately, no shooter would ever think to look for students in their rooms.

Posted by: Galos Gann at December 08, 2011 09:54 AM (T3KlW)

46 35 romance and D&D, come on - tell the truth

Posted by: Jean at December 08, 2011 09:54 AM (WkuV6)

47 Another time where a shooting breaks out while I am in a classroom on a (different) major university campus. Would be nice to have one of my handguns on me the next time I hear about one of these stories.

Posted by: Doc at December 08, 2011 09:55 AM (hwwzC)

48 Individual still at large.

Local news anchor wearing a thin sweater and it appears she is not wearing a bra.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 01:49 PM (AM+sr)

And that is the kind of straight to the point reporting us morons appreciate. Thank you sir.

Posted by: Big Zesty at December 08, 2011 09:55 AM (r5bw0)

49 3rd time shootings on VT campus. Back in early 2000's a prisoner escaped and shot/killed people, 2007 shootings, and today.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 09:57 AM (AM+sr)

50 Two shooters in two year. Ummm... 4 years. But your point stands. Of course, I think getting rid of that ridiculous "Gun Free Zone" would help immensely. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 08, 2011 01:27 PM (8y9MW) Oops, sorry about that. My bad. And yes, a Gun Free Zone only keeps the law abiding citizens from having guns, not the criminals.

Posted by: moki at December 08, 2011 09:58 AM (dZmFh)

51 Of course it's prob not a super idea to be wandering around with a gun looking for vigilante action if there's a bunch of cops scared for their life looking for a guy wandering around with a gun.

Posted by: isostan at December 08, 2011 09:59 AM (fO2nN)

52 1 police officer dead. 1 civilian dead.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 09:59 AM (AM+sr)

53 So much workplace violence.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 08, 2011 10:00 AM (YhQHa)

54 Police officer going up on a bucket truck.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 10:01 AM (AM+sr)

55 very stressful time on campus

My senior year a guy tossed a library chair out a window on the top floor and was proceeding to climb out after the chair before he was tackled.

Posted by: Bob Saget at December 08, 2011 10:02 AM (SDkq3)

56 53 So much workplace violence.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at December 08, 2011 02:00 PM (YhQHa)

Indeed.

Posted by: JoeInMD at December 08, 2011 10:03 AM (Xwgt3)

good thing all those law abiding students can defend themselves with their 2nd amendment ri.... oh yeah, they can't.

Our AG, Ken Cuccinelli, is a Constitutionalist and thinks campus "no carry" zones are a load of horse manure. He's running for gov when McDonald crawls into Willard's arse, so we've got that goin' for us, which is nice.

Posted by: RushBabe at December 08, 2011 10:03 AM (tQHzJ)

58 Police from the western half of the state coming in. Virginia cops, especially rural departments, are very well armed.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 10:06 AM (AM+sr)

59 Worst. School. Tradition. EVER.

Posted by: stuiec at December 08, 2011 10:09 AM (Di3Im)

60 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at December 08, 2011 10:10 AM (7WJOC)

61 Not sure if this is related, but Blacksburg and Radford are very close in proximity. http://tinyurl.com/6nwcuav

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 10:15 AM (AM+sr)

62 Maybe Coach Sandusky was hanging out down there and was trying to cop a feel.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 08, 2011 10:19 AM (acEq7)

63 61 Not sure if this is related, but Blacksburg and Radford are very close in proximity. http://tinyurl.com/6nwcuav

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 02:15 PM (AM+sr)

Good golly. My sister went to Radford U while I was at VT. It's about a 30-40 minute drive. Not super-close, but yeah. Creepy.

Posted by: JoeInMD at December 08, 2011 10:23 AM (Xwgt3)

64 Not to cloud a serious tragedy thread with my fond memories of VaTech. The explanation for the romance + D&D at summer camp is easy -- it was an academic summer camp for smarties.

One weird aspect was, at the end of the camp, the hot chick gave me a book to remember her by -- Dianetics.

So apparently she was trying to recruit me into her Scientology cult. I had no idea what Dianetics was at the time, though, so my reaction was, uh, thanks for the book, uh, my parents aren't picking me up for 30 more minutes, please tell me more about your cult while I remove your top.

I'm glad she didn't bring up the whole cult thing until the last hour or so of our acquaintance. If she'd had the whole summer to work on me I'd probably have a shrine to Tom Cruise in my house today.

Posted by: Clubber Lang at December 08, 2011 10:26 AM (QcFbt)

65 Around here, 30 to 40 minutes is right next door.

Just in. Reports of other gunfire "unfounded". So no other shots fired.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 10:29 AM (AM+sr)

66 Local reporters husband is a cop in the area, she was almost crying while doing a report.

The parking lot where the cop was shot is at Cassell Coliseum, it is Faculty/Staff parking. The "Cage" parking lot where the 2nd shooting took place is Student parking.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 10:35 AM (AM+sr)

67 Damn. Just damn.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Radford '81 at December 08, 2011 10:38 AM (4q5tP)

68 VA Tech is my alma mater. This shit just makes me sick.

Posted by: joncelli, too stressed by half at December 08, 2011 10:45 AM (RD7QR)

I question the timing.

Posted by: RokShox at December 08, 2011 11:01 AM (pcly4)

70 good thing all those law abiding students can defend themselves with their 2nd amendment ri.... oh yeah, they can't.

That's why it's called concealed carry.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at December 08, 2011 11:09 AM (+lsX1)

71 Police close rest area on Interstate 81 near Radford.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 11:10 AM (AM+sr)

2nd shooting probably a car jack. They need to look for 2nd victim's car.

Posted by: RokShox at December 08, 2011 11:14 AM (pcly4)

73 And they were too idiotic to allow concealed carry on campus after the first time.

Posted by: Texan Economist at December 08, 2011 11:16 AM (TC/9F)

^{2nd shooting probably a car jack. They need to look for 2nd victim's car.}

^{Posted by: RokShox at December 08, 2011 03:14 PM (pcly4)}

That is why the rest area on I81 is closed. The VT campus is real close to the US460 Bypass which leads directly to I81. Once on I81 they are long gone. Every big crime like this in this area, the criminal almost always gets busted on I81 somewhere.

Plus the cops are giving a lot of off the record info to reporters.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 11:21 AM (AM+sr)

They think the killer will need to go to the bathroom once he makes it to I-81 so they closed the rest area?

Posted by: RokShox at December 08, 2011 11:24 AM (pcly4)

^{They think the killer will need to go to the bathroom once he makes it to I-81 so they closed the rest area?}

^{Posted by: RokShox at December 08, 2011 03:24 PM (pcly4)}

Quick way to pick up a new car with out of state plates.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 11:59 AM (AM+sr)

77 Livestreaming of news coverage from WDBJ-TV. This is the best news operation in the western half of Virginia.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 12:01 PM (AM+sr)

78 This is the 3rd shooting on the VT campus in the last 5-6 years. Everyone remembers the April 2007 shootings, but this is the first.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 12:06 PM (AM+sr)

79 Quick way to pick up a new car with out of state plates.

Posted by: MrCaniac at December 08, 2011 03:59 PM (AM+sr)

Yep. Pure speculation, but I suspect the armed robber in Radford was driving a car which the campus cop may have stopped on a BOLO alert and got killed for it. So, the perp needs another car and kills a student in another parking lot trying to car jack one. Sounds like that's the way LE is playing it, anyway, but, if they don't catch him, the whole campus will have to be sterilized, building by building,..room by room.

Posted by: long toss at December 08, 2011 12:35 PM (tvGav)

80 Reports now that 2nd victim is the perp. A weapon recovered at the scene.

Posted by: RokShox at December 08, 2011 12:36 PM (pcly4)

81 Tea Partiers, again.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at December 08, 2011 12:44 PM (ndlFj)

The shooter was NOT the person stopped for the traffic citation!

Posted by: RokShox at December 08, 2011 12:54 PM (pcly4)

It's going to be an OWSer!

Posted by: RokShox at December 08, 2011 12:55 PM (pcly4)

VT officer shot and killed while conducting a traffic stop. Stopee was not the shooter. Shooter was apparently on foot, then ran/walked over to the I Lot "The Cage." Officer (unknown agency at this point) responding at the I Lot saw a suspicious person coming (SP) from the direction of the traffic stop shooting. SP was alive one moment, then dead the next. A weapon found in the area. 2nd Officer was not involved in the shooting.

You do the math.

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 08, 2011 01:05 PM (4q5tP)

85 Didn't Sarah Palin mention this district once?

Posted by: Passably Affable at December 08, 2011 03:22 PM (tDq1m)

86 Excellent blog, thanks for the share. I'll be a regular viewer.

Posted by: Tiny Buddha ePub at December 08, 2011 06:27 PM (NnwTo)

87 Have Mark Steyn and Kathy what's-her-ass started accusing the deceased or anyone on the campus of being pussies yet?

Posted by: NumbrwunRushFan at December 09, 2011 03:05 PM (Oq7We)

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