1 WEINER!!!!!

I mean First!!!

2 Obozo went on obscene rant after Netenyahu handed him his ass in meeting (screams at Daley "WHAT THE F#$K WAS THAT!")

3 Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at June 12, 2011 03:07 PM (7o9oJ)

Regarding my last comment, can you even imagine the feeding frenzy that would ensue had Palin said something like that to her staff in one of those emails?

4 O'barry was in an Indoneisan school at the time of the Six Day War.  Enuff said.

5 If there's one thing to take from this post, it's that Dave is old.

6

Excellent post Dave.  I was at a party last night and a lib friend of mine decided to extol the virtues of Obama and I launched into all of the above. Also asked him if he was aware Hamas is a terrorist organization and  if he understood that is who Obama would have Israel negotiate with despite the fact Hamas wants Israel to be taken off the map and is behind the daily missle attacks on Israel.

Then the lib went into how Obama was the only President to broach the border issue.  I then asked him if he knew who attacked Israel in 67 and whether he understood that Egypt wants to totally disintegrate the Camp David Peace Accords. 

Also asked him about the American reporter who was savaged in Egypt during the Egyptians' peaceful "revolution."  Asked whether he knew what they were chanting while they raped her.  Pointed out they were chanting racial epithets against her and Israel. 

7 I was 6 in '67. 

Obama ( I read this somewhere else)  has the sidam touch. 

Honestly, I think Obama would prefer the Jews to just kill themselves, but he'll settle for them letting the Arabs do it.
And he's getting pissed that Netanyahu won't lead, follow or get out of the way of that glorious mission.

8 Thanks for the link, ol_dirty. 

This sounds ominous though:

The essence of the president’s rage and embarrassment can best be summed up with him yelling out very loudly, “What the f-ck was that!?” That phrase was apparently repeated a number of times in the span of about five minutes, a time period in which Obama’s voice became “louder and louder” and culminating in Obama exclaiming, “Never again! Do you understand me? Never again!” Any response by Bill Daley back to the president, if given, was not overheard.

"Never again" what?  Will Obama now cease even minimal support of Israel?  Or does mean something even more insidious? 

9 So is this the 'inadvertent' porn thread or are we still not doing that?

10 If there's one thing to take from this post, it's that Dave is old.

And that Obama is a dick.

11 WHAT THE F#$K WAS THAT!"

Ah, yes.  Our Barry, ever the statesman.  The very definition of gravitas. 

You know what that was Barry?  It was someone, for the first time in your miserable life, telling you to get bent.  Get used to it.

12 ol_dirty, sounds like Obama did not appreciate getting schooled.  Must have really damaged his fragile self-esteem.  Poor wittle cry baby....  suck it since you are now President. 

13 11 Eeeeeexactly. I wish I had only been a fly on the wall for that conversation.

14 One uncle survived the Nazi brutalizations at Mauthhausen and 2 death marches. Veteran of '48, '56 and '67, (recalled in '73) and two of his daughters are veterans of '67 and ''73. Israel will live, but if it goes, so goes the rest of the world. NEVER AGAIN MEANS NEVER AGAIN

15 It's a shame that the Arab nations didn't take the hint after getting caned like a naughty Singaporean over those six days. As for the whole 1967 borders thing...Obama doesn't like us having borders either so his attitude is understandable.

16 I'm still waiting for a Palestinian apologist to explain to me why they should be handed back what they lost in a war their allies started on their behalf.

Once we get beyond that, we can start working on why anyone thinks such a diseased culture should be rewarded with a state.

17 Obumble didn't really care to hear that. He likely had no idea that when Israel fought for its survival in the 6-Day War, they faced Arab armies in M-48 Patton tanks. When they say "never again", they really mean it.

Actually, the Israelis used Sherman tanks from World War II, which they upgunned with French high-velocity 75mm and 105mm cannons. They were designated the M-50 and M-51 and called "Super Shermans" by the rest of the world.

http://tinyurl.com/4xl5ycj

The great strength of the M-50 and M-51 was that they could destroy much more modern tanks before the latter could come close enough to penetrate the Israeli tanks' World War II-era armor.

The M-50 and M-51 were phased out in the early 1980s.

18 It was a war of annihilation. And it never ended.

I don't know what the fuck people think that means, that they think you can "compromise" in the face of that.

This was never anything other than the "eliminationists" cry for a do-over.

19 If there's one thing to take from this post, it's that Dave is old.

...And that Obama is a dick.

...and pathetic as a world leader.

God help us get through the next 588 days!

20

"WHAT THE F#$K WAS THAT!"

 

COCK SLAP

 

21 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 12, 2011 03:15 PM (c0A3e)

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 12, 2011 03:17 PM (UrBHQ)

Oops, I didn't notice Dave linked the same thing I did in his post.

22 Posted by: DrewM. at June 12, 2011 03:21 PM (y07gN) How about Jordan hand back the EAST bank of the Jordan River (that's where most of the Palestinians come from anyway). Saudi Arabia can throw in part of its land in the northwest to boot. * * * * * * (sound of Islamic crickets ululating)

23 Once we get beyond that, we can start working on why anyone thinks such a diseased culture should be rewarded with a state.
Posted by: DrewM. at June 12, 2011 03:21 PM (y07gN)

Q.: How many Palestinians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

A.: None. They'd rather sit in darkness and blame it on TEH JOOOOOOOZ.

24 Posted by: Cathy at June 12, 2011 03:25 PM (jVzcR) Thanks, I'm a year younger than Dave!

25

Benjamin Netanyahu said "well no". 

Obumble didn't really care to hear that.

Either did Obumble's biggest fan, Christianne Amanpour(D). How dare Netanyahu take Obozo to school. waaa.

 

In other news- We should point and laugh at Andrew Sullivan.

26

Once we get beyond that, we can start working on why anyone thinks such a diseased culture should be rewarded with a state.

 

A state we will need to pay for, of course.

 

27 Weren't reports that everybody in the White House was telling him not to do it, but JugEars went ahead and called for the 67 borders anyway? 

Daley may have just been satisfied to see him hoisted by his own petard...

28 But obumble was only 8 when Dohrn/Ayers were doin' there terrorism

29 > ... culminating in Obama exclaiming, “Never again! Do you understand me? Never again!” Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) See! Obama does understand Israel.

30

The essence of the president’s rage and embarrassment can best be summed up with him yelling out very loudly, “What the f-ck was that!?” That phrase was apparently repeated a number of times in the span of about five minutes, a time period in which Obama’s voice became “louder and louder” and culminating in Obama exclaiming, “Never again! Do you understand me? Never again!” Any response by Bill Daley back to the president, if given, was not overheard.

If this is true, it's revealing that Little Barry vented his hysterical wrath on someone who couldn't respond with "fuck off" -- i.e., his own Chief of Staff.  The girlchild President would never mouth off like that directly to Netanyahu.  Netanyahu is a man; Barry is a girl who is most comfortable with beta males and harpies.  He has no stomach for dealing with someone who's got a pair of balls.

What a contemptible little turd we have as POTUS. 

31 "I wish I had only been a fly on the wall for that conversation." He's our Lord. Buzz off.

32 My family went to Israel just after the war. The Wailing Wall was still being controlled by the army, so there was no separation of the sexes. I remember being awed by it at the tender age of 6 1/2.

We also visited Gaza. I asked my father if the Arab flag was pure white, because that's what was flying from almost every house.

And J.J. is correct; never again means NEVER AGAIN!

33 26

Once we get beyond that, we can start working on why anyone thinks such a diseased culture should be rewarded with a state.

 A state we will need to pay for, of course.

We already pay them enough without a state.  Don't the Palis get more foreign aid and assistance per capita than anybody else in the entire world?

34 Valarie Jarrett can kiss the boo boo and make it go away, and then Samantha Power can have her husband raise the tax on matzo ball soup in retaliation.

35

Obama’s voice became “louder and louder” and culminating in Obama exclaiming,“Never again! Do you understand me? Never again!”

 

Second look at doing away with all forms of Affirmative Action?

36 Haha, I enjoy reading what the little serfs have to say...right before I hit the greens!

37 I hope Israel's army has tightened up since the last outing--they didn't show very well against Hezbollah in 2006.

38 I was '0'. I still re-read Six Days of War in awe. THIS is the kind of nation we should be proud to call a friend.

39 June 5-10, 1967. I was eight.

I was 14 and overheard two men discussing it before it was clear that Israel would win. In response to the first guy asking, "What do you think of it?", second guy says, "I hope Israel wins, the Jews have been fucked enough."

It was the first time I remember being aware that anyone might object to the Jews having what looked on the map as a rather small bit of land.

40

June 5-10, 1967. I was eight.

I was in High School, craving a drivers license, and a date with any chick.  

Who the hell does He think He is?  

41

Obama’s voice became “louder and louder” and culminating in Obama exclaiming,“Never again! Do you understand me? Never again!”

 

Dèjá Vus

42

"Surrounded by their enemies, they taught their enemies "don't fuck with us"

I admire this sentiment."

This is the essence of Israel. And the Arabs, in their foolishness and hate, have never learned the lesson. Had they accepted the UN partition peacefully the Middle East would be the greatest success story in history. Imagine an Israel, with all of its intellectual might, allied with the Arabs, with all of their....oil.

But this is of course a dream, and a silly one at that. Islam teaches hate, nothing more. No Arab nation will ever rise above the muck until they cast off their 7th century mindset.

 

43

Damn, I should have been a Congressman...

44

Obama’s voice became “louder and louder” and culminating in Obama exclaiming,“Never again! Do you understand me? Never again!”

At least Bibi will never have to worry about suffering the indignity of being shown the back door of the White House.

Ten bucks says he knew going in that that would be the last time he was ever invited, under this Administration.

45 The Russians were in the Arab camp, but the Poles were, interestingly enough, supportive of Israel, and anti-Russian. Of course they couldn't do anything about it, but the saying among many Poles after the end of the war was, "Our Jews beat their Arabs."

46

Islam teaches hate, nothing more.

 

But it's a peaceful hate.

47

I hope Israel's army has tightened up since the last outing--they didn't show very well against Hezbollah in 2006.

They were being critiqued by UN and many western nations.  They had the hardware to blast these shitbirds back the the 7th century.  But as always, it's Israel's fault for everything.  And as always, the Muslims were launching from hospitals, schools, etc....  They are going to piss off the IDF one too many times and you'll see the destruction Isreal can bring upon on these chickenshit bastards.

48 Yes, but the Arabs weren't trying to kill-them, kill them!

49 And Obama is still blaming Israel. He is basically now telling the Israelis to take his position or else.

50 Hey Obama, lighten up a little!  Next thing you know, someone will be making a Downfall parody of your Netanyahu explosion.

51 U.S. forces in Germany were on alert.  I think the status was world-wide.  Defcon 4, with some units at 3 ( although I don't think the Army or Air Force ever publicly admitted that ).

Everyone ( think Gary Oldman in 'The Professional' ) everyone was at 3 in the 1973 war.  Not good times.......

52

Everyone ( think Gary Oldman in 'The Professional' ) everyone was at 3 in the 1973 war.  Not good times.......

 

 

EEEEEVERYONE!!!

53 Who's everyone?

54

He is basically now telling the Israelis to take his position or else.

 

He can go pound sand.  He's nothing but a petulant little cunt. 

He's approaching this the same way he approached Obamacare. 

He wants His name on something and he's going to hold his breath and make a scene to get it.

He wants nothing more than to hand Rashid Khalidi a Palestinian State.  I would imagine that the LA Times Video illustrates this explicitly.

55 sigh.

Sooner or later every asshole wannabe totalitarian comes for the Jews.

56  So why not just give the Palis their own little chunk of undeveloped real estate and tell them to outdo the Jews in making a country from nothing?

57 He wants nothing more than to hand Rashid Khalidi a Palestinian State. I would imagine that the LA Times Video illustrates this explicitly. Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2011 04:03 PM (dqxgo) I wonder if we will ever see that video? And Obama can still cause trouble ( well further trouble) for Israel at the UN. I don't trust him one bit, because as you said, he is a petulant little cunt.

58 Wait, aren't the Jews the cause of all the trouble in the world?

59 um, "everyone" was all U.S. military personnel, everywhere in the whole wide world.

60 We also visited Gaza. I asked my father if the Arab flag was pure white, because that's what was flying from almost every house.

ROFLMAO

I'm surprised you didn't ask why so many French people lived there.

61 I was -5. Good for the Jews.

62 A few real placed nukes will do wonders and reduce global warming.

63 One of my military science instructors at West Point was an enlisted tank commander. He had been to Israel for training and he told us that the Israelis had their fields of fire clearly laid out and had ranged their tanks in *indirect* fire mode. They were shooting out to 7000m with the 105s the tanks were dug in and parked on a ramp to get elevation. I forget the ratios they were fighting against but they were killing the Arab tanks as they drove past the pre emplaced range markers way before they could engage. Semper paratus.

64

^{_{Posted by: irongrampa at June 12, 2011 04:04 PM (ud5dN)}}

 

Because they will not accept anything less than a settlement that provides a vehicle through which they can destroy Israel. 

 

65 He wants nothing more than to hand Rashid Khalidi a Palestinian State. I would imagine that the LA Times Video illustrates this explicitly.
Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2011 04:03 PM (dqxgo)

Rashid who? We're too busy filing FOIA's for Palin's emails to be concerned with this "Rashid Khalili" person.

66 He wants nothing more than to hand Rashid Khalidi a Palestinian State. I would imagine that the LA Times Video illustrates this explicitly.
Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2011 04:03 PM (dqxgo)

Rashid Khalili? Never heard of him.

67

Because they will not accept anything less than a settlement that provides a vehicle through which they can destroy Israel. 

 

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2011 04:08 PM (dqxgo)

Nonsense. The goal of Middle East peace is the goal of every freedom loving nation.

68 He wants nothing more than to hand Rashid Khalidi a Palestinian State. I would imagine that the LA Times Video illustrates this explicitly.
Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2011 04:03 PM (dqxgo)

Rashid Khalili? Who cares? The world needs to know what Sarah Palin reads, not about this "Rashid Khalili" person who I've never even heard of.

69 Read this at the WH Insider:

Ever notice that every time the Arabs start a war with the Israelis that Israel gets bigger?  That's called a clue.

heh

70

Come on guys, if only you listen to Obama and have Israel go back to the pre-1967 borders, everything will be okay. I trust Obama. He was a law professor after all.

71 What are all you yougin's doing on my lawn?

LOL, yeah we went to 3, set condition Z, and hauled ass through the straights of Malaca at a flank bell heading for the IO.

72 No I get it. I said "who's everyone" because that's what the guy said before Stansfield screamed.

73 And the House needs to cut off every damn nickle going over there to those SOBs.

74 Obama exclaiming, “Never again! Do you understand me? Never again!”

Because Obama's shockingly ignorant about everything except a couple TV shows he likes, I'm willing to believe he chose those specific two words to shout about the Jews without any inking of their significance.

But really, what are the fucking odds?

How severely retarded do we have to believe he is, just to give him the benefit of the doubt that we'd give anyone but a Nazi here?

Because...wow.

75

One thing I haven't seen discussed in relation to the palis and the peace treaty nonsense is the newly discovered natural gas reserves in Israel.

You know that somewhere there is a Palestinian with legal representation making the case that his families ancestoral olive orchard just happened to be where the gas deposits are located... in the middle of the sea.

76 Israel should say they would be fine returning land to Egypt and Jordan. 67 borders, right?

77

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2011 04:15 PM (UOM4

Anyone I can attribute that too? I'd like to put it up on FB just to see who gets bent out of shape.

78

Sonic, Mickey D's, Burger King, Arby's, Chick-Fil-A, Domino's, KFC, Taco Bell or Wendy's? I think I'll just hop in the car and decide as I drive.

 (I'm tired of grilling, wife is out of town, and I haven't eaten anything all day.)

79

(I'm tired of grilling, wife is out of town, and I haven't eaten anything all day.)

Pizza!

80

Sonic, Mickey D's, Burger King, Arby's, Chick-Fil-A, Domino's, KFC, Taco Bell or Wendy's? I think I'll just hop in the car and decide as I drive.

 (I'm tired of grilling, wife is out of town, and I haven't eaten anything all day.)

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 12, 2011 04:23 PM (Z05lF)

Go eat mexican, lord knows there's enough of the bastards coming in the country.

81

You know that somewhere there is a Palestinian with legal representation making the case that his families ancestoral olive orchard just happened to be where the gas deposits are located... in the middle of the sea.

The Lebanese (and by extension, Hezbollah and Syria) are already making claims on the off-shore finds off Israel. 

82

Go eat mexican, lord knows there's enough of the bastards coming in the country.

 

Anywhere you eat, there's bound to be a 'shadow dweller' washing dishes in the kitchen.

83 Sonic and get that oreo sundae. I see the commercials and wish there was one nearby.

84

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 12, 2011 04:23 PM (Z05lF)

I do that too, decide as I drive. Wendy's has a new menu that's pretty decent. I like the Asiago Chicken Club but it's a touch dry.

Can't beat a Beef and Cheddar from Arby's.

85 That dessert does sound awesome, blaster, but so does a pepperoni pizza or a big Beef n' Cheddar....Back in 20 minutes with the conclusion to this thrilling tale....

86 The only prejudice my dad didn't have was religious.  After the six-day war I remember him telling a joke that I heard going around for a long time.  Somewhat poorly told, it went like this. An arab army has surrounded a target site, at which they know there is one Israeli soldier.  They send out group after group to take out this one, lonely soldier.  At last one beat-up arab soldier makes it back to the group, crying "go back, don't go up there!  There's TWO!"

87

I remember when my great-grandfather and great-grandmother still lived there, she was 21 at the time...

we would stroll amidst the Olive Trees and play 'Trap the Jew'.  A game very similar to your American Pig Dog 'Snipe Hunts'. 

Of course, when High Tide returned, we had to go back to their Palacial Tent...

...then the Jews came with their Joo Sharks and the Olive Orchards were no longer safe... 

They put salt in the seas and stole the land of our heritage.

 

88 This topic annoys me so much.  Between Obama and the UN, all we ever hear preached at us is the supremacy of international law.  You know what else is covered under international law? Acquisition of territory as the result of being the victim of aggression.  If another country attacks you, and you gain territory as a result of the war, you get to keep it.

Unless you are Jews, I guess.  Must be a little known codicil.

89

I do that too, decide as I drive. Wendy's has a new menu that's pretty decent. I like the Asiago Chicken Club but it's a touch dry.

 

Have you tried in with Mayonnaise?

90 1) The only way we ever see the Khalidi tape is a security breach at the LAT.

2) The "palestinians" don't settle for this or that land deal because "some land" isn't what they want. They want to eliminate all Jews, they keep telling us but we don't listen.

There is no "negotiation," only containment.

91 I hope Israel's army has tightened up since the last outing--they didn't show very well against Hezbollah in 2006.

They retrained the entire military and reinstated far more rigorous training for reservists. The end result was Operation Cast Lead in Gaza, in which the IDF lost 13 killed in action versus at least 600 Hamas terrorists.

By the way, the IDF really didn't perform all that badly in Lebanon in 2006. Hezbollah showed its hand in terms of tactics, and the IDF had already adapted by the end of the conflict.

Mainly Hezbollah relied on Russian Kornet antitank guided missiles. The Israelis have since deployed the Trophy Active Protection System, which automatically shoots antitank missiles and RPGs out of the air. Trophy successfully intercepts projectiles fired as close as six feet away from the tank. Israeli tanks are now virtually invulnerable.

http://tinyurl.com/yg68je

92 2) The "palestinians" don't settle for this or that land deal because "some land" isn't what they want. They want to eliminate all Jews, they keep telling us but we fucktarded anti-semitic liberals don't listen.

There is no "negotiation," only containment.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at June 12, 2011 04:37 PM (bxiXv)

FIFY

93 Israel should say they would be fine returning land to Egypt and Jordan. 67 borders, right? Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2011 04:22 PM (L7dSp) Egypt wants no part of Gaza and Jordan knows that if it tried to take control of the West Bank it would be the end of Jordan

94 "WHAT THE F#$K WAS THAT!"" Apparently, Netanyahu didn't get the memo that The One is to be worshipped and adored. Our president really doesn't handle constructive criticism well.

95 77

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2011 04:15 PM (UOM4

Anyone I can attribute that too? I'd like to put it up on FB just to see who gets bent out of shape.

Posted by: ErikW at June 12, 2011 04:23 PM (LLv4v)

It was a commenter at Ulsterman.  Loved it.

96

1.) The only way we ever see the Khalidi tape is a security breach at the LAT.

 

How is there not one good Jew at the the LA Times that can leak that for us? 

Not one? 

The. Fuck?

97

How is there not one good Jew at the the LA Times that can leak that for us?

Not one?

The. Fuck?

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2011 04:43 PM (dqxgo)

You're talking about journalists.

98 83Sonic and get that oreo sundae. I see the commercials and wish there was one nearby.

Posted by: blaster at June 12, 2011 04:29 PM (L7dSp)

 

We just had a Sonic open up in our area, unfortunately it's a 4 hour wait for a burger right now.  Sorry my italics aren't working for the quote above.

99 @92 of course. The fact that Palestinians have more voting rights in Israel than Egypt or Syria or Jordan or any Arab state seems lost on the world.

100

Sonic and get that oreo sundae. I see the commercials and wish there was one nearby.

Sorry, saw the word 'oreo' and my mind went to Clarence Thomas... 

101

I just read that West Point is standing by its decision to kick out the cadet who was beaten to ground by Patti LaBelle's thugs.  That's fucked up.

 

 

 

 

102 "In other news- We should point and laugh at Andrew Sullivan." Hm, the New York Times' and Washinton Post's "Get Palin" project doesn't seem to be going their way. Damn shame. And the libs will never understand Palin's decision to not abort that baby. The same people who think circumcision should be outlawed would kill a fetus without a second thought. Then talk about how stupid Sarah Palin and Tea Party people are.

103

You're talking about journalists.

 

There has to be a tech, intern, a janitor or a recently spurned Lady Gaga fan somewhere in that organization.

104 101

I just read that West Point is standing by its decision to kick out the cadet who was beaten to ground by Patti LaBelle's thugs.  That's fucked up.

I hope that kid sues the hell out of the thugs and LaBelle and wins.

105

Have you tried in with Mayonnaise?

Posted by: Ohs Noes! at June 12, 2011 04:36 PM (dqxgo)

Yeah, it was still too dry. They should slice the chicken breast lengthwise and serve it that way. A whole chicken breast is way too much for a single sammich.

106 stupid italics FAIL

107

Rashid Khalili? Never heard of him.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at June 12, 2011 04:11 PM (7o9oJ)

Undrstandable.  It's hard to keep up with other shit when you've devoted 100% of your resources to finding something embarassing in Sarah Palin's old emails.

108

Slightly OT (since this is a Six-Day War thread) but my old man was a senior supply officer in the Navy and remembers loading many planes full of ordnance to send to Israel during the Yom Kippur War in 1973.  When things were looking grim, he asked an Israeli general when they would decide to release their nuclear weapons.  The Israeli general got a big grin on his face and made a reply to the effect that, officially, Israel did not possess nuclear weapons and he didn't know what my father was talking about.

 

 

109 My Niece was in a kibbutz several years ago (when was that last big rocket barrage?) on the northern border with rockets going OVER her, deeper into Israel. This is the one years later that says she kinda likes Chavez.

*sigh*

There's always prayer.

110

And the libs will never understand Palin's decision to not abort that baby. The same people who think circumcision should be outlawed would kill a fetus without a second thought. Then talk about how stupid Sarah Palin and Tea Party people are.

 I thought Palin was too stupid to have a baby...?

111 @101. Not sure the whole story the rules at WP are strict and sometimes arbitrary. You can get in trouble a lot of ways that seem unfair. The cadet is not out-out he may return in a year and graduate.

112 I just read that West Point is standing by its decision to kick out the cadet who was beaten to ground by Patti LaBelle's thugs. That's fucked up. Posted by: Gem at June 12, 2011 04:48 PM (zw+pb) Yeah but we still don't know the whole story and as I understand he can reapply for re-admission after 18 months of Active Duty

113 Apparently, Netanyahu didn't get the memo that The One is to be worshipped and adored.

Oh I think he got the memo. He decided to ignore it. Did you see the side by side pics of the Community Organizer and Netanyahu in his prime?

114 King Obeyme is a Jew-hating, Israel-hating douchebag. Sorry I don't have more intellectually sophisticated commentary on the subject, but that's all I can muster at the moment.

115 The Israeli general got a big grin on his face and made a reply to the effect that, officially, Israel did not possess nuclear weapons and he didn't know what my father was talking about.

 Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at June 12, 2011 04:52 PM (S2+uh)

Long time point of curiosity: Why does Israel keep the existence of their nuclear arsenal a secret? Are they playing head games?

I think everyone pretty much assumes that they have them and I'm damned glad they do. But what's up?

116

I bet I set a land speed record on that trip. Made every light and hardly saw any other cars. Gotta love Sundays in the South.

Anyway, I went to Arby's where I got a "Medium Beef and Cheddar" and an "Oreo/Mocha Shake" thing that reminded me of the one blaster mentioned. If they hadn't had something like it, I was going to attempt the rare and highly controversial "two stop" fast-food meal and get the original one from Sonic.

Time to eat.

117 >>> King Obeyme is a Jew-hating, Israel-hating douchebag. Sorry I don't have more intellectually sophisticated commentary on the subject, but that's all I can muster at the moment.

Yes. To this ^^^ I would add a very intellectual and nuanced. FUCK YOU to the bastard.

118 Long time point of curiosity: Why does Israel keep the existence of their nuclear arsenal a secret? Are they playing head games? I think everyone pretty much assumes that they have them and I'm damned glad they do. But what's up? Posted by: ErikW at June 12, 2011 04:57 PM (LLv4v) Well ya mean aside from the fact they have never signed the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty?

119 June 5-10, 1967. I was a fetus.

120

It was a commenter at Ulsterman.  Loved it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2011 04:41 PM (UOM4

Grazie!

121 I was 16 and it was the "summer of love".  What war?

Hearing about it later, however, did impress me.

122  >>> June 5-10, 1967. I was a fetus.

Close. I was a naughty gleam in my daddy's eyes.

123

I was not yet 2 in June of 67. One thing I remember in school was that at no point in any history class or book i had in grade school jr high or high school was this ever mentioned. As far as my HS history teachers were concerned, WW1 & WW2 was a minor skirmishes that took all of one day to discuss, but Vietnam took practically the entire year, on account of all the American war crimes that had to be trotted out again and again and again.

I remember at one point in HS, after the gabillionth lecture by one particular 20-something lefty princess of a teacher barely out of her Berkeley diapers about how Mi Lai was much more important in US history than D-Day or Beleau Wood ever were, I stood up dropped my history book on her desk and walked out of class followed by a few of my classmates.

Our teacher went straight to our Korean War vet Vice-Principal demanding that we be suspended. With us standing right there next her, he laughed and told her to deal with it. A few months later at a graduation party attended by this same VP, I and my 17-year old walkout friends not legally allowed to drink poured him a beer out of the keg and thanked him for standing up to us.

124 Close. I was a naughty gleam in my daddy's eyes. Posted by: jcjimi at June 12, 2011 05:03 PM (moZsS) Being a Daddy myself, I never understood that term, because believe me, what ever he felt, it was not in his eyes. Trust me

125
 Am I alone in noticing the deafening silence from the media about the E-mails from Sarah?  Kinda thought there would be mega headlines about the enormous revelations that surely must exist. Or was this a stupendous face plant?

126

@115

My thoughts are that the Israelis prefer to keep their enemies guessing about the type and quantity of the nuclear arsenal on hand.

127 Had an instructor who went in 73 to train Israelis on the TOW off the Cobra. We did not even have them in service in the US army yet.

128 Correction: standing up FOR us...

129 Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2011 05:05 PM

That's my mother you're talking about!!eleventy@1!!

130 Well ya mean aside from the fact they have never signed the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2011 05:00 PM (7wmOW)

Please excuse my ignoramus, I'm still getting my larn on.

And yes, I see how that would be a bad idea for Israel.

Interesting...

131 as pure as the wind driven snow.

132  Am I alone in noticing the deafening silence from the media about the E-mails from Sarah?  Kinda thought there would be mega headlines about the enormous revelations that surely must exist. Or was this a stupendous face plant?

Posted by: irongrampa at June 12, 2011 05:05 PM (ud5dN)

Apparently they show "an engaged and hard working Sarah Palin" from the little I've heard of them. And there's no fucking way the MFM reports that.

133 Am I alone in noticing the deafening silence from the media about the E-mails from Sarah?  Kinda thought there would be mega headlines about the enormous revelations that surely must exist. Or was this a stupendous face plant?

Thank God, I thought for sure the pic I emailed to her of a naked me wrapped in the American flag would have come out by now.

She never did answer that either.

134 Our president really doesn't handle constructive criticism well.

So now there's a blueprint for getting him to have a complete raving fit on camera: have a bunch of people show up at a campaign stop with OBAMA '12 signs and then once he's reading off TOTUS flip them all to show Bibi's face.

135 She never did answer that either.

Well there's their headline: Palin fails to answer naughty e-mails!

Wouldn't catch Weiner making that mistake.

136 Posted by: The Man Between The Cans at June 12, 2011 05:12 PM (TCyyS)

Remember the bad old days before Twitter when 4chan and Craigslist where the only place a guy could post pics of his cock?

137

Apparently they show "an engaged and hard working Sarah Palin" from the little I've heard of them. And there's no fucking way the MFM reports that.

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at June 12, 2011 05:09 PM (6IReR)

"And in other news, Sarah Palin is evil, Margaret Thatcher hates her, and... and... um, she said something mean about Bachmann."

- Brought to you by the Make-Believe Media

138

Remember the bad old days before Twitter when 4chan and Craigslist where the only place a guy could post pics of his cock?

Posted by: Rep. Anthony Weiner at June 12, 2011 05:19 PM (7o9oJ)

*ahem*

139 Boulder's having a Jewish Festival now. Pretty cool. Lots of pro-Israel booths.

140 The materials for at least the first nukes were surely given to them by the US.  That is likely one of the reasons.

141 "Did you see the side by side pics of the Community Organizer and Netanyahu in his prime?" A man definitely looks better in combat fatigues than in mom jeans. As I've said before, Barbie will pick GI Joe over Ken every time.

142

Long time point of curiosity: Why does Israel keep the existence of their nuclear arsenal a secret? Are they playing head games?
I think everyone pretty much assumes that they have them and I'm damned glad they do. But what's up?
-ErikW

Remeber in 2009 the Dickhead in Chief was talking about nuclear disarmament and even mentioned Israel?

That's why Israel doesn't admit to having nukes.  So some A-hole, any A-hole, can't insist they be disarmed of something they've never admitted to having in the first place.

143 Thank God, I thought for sure the pic I emailed to her of a naked me wrapped in the American flag would have come out by now.

Maybe it you hadn't tied it to your own "personal flagstaff". Yeah, I know, hindsight is 20/20.

144 **Yeah but we still don't know the whole story and as I understand he can reapply for re-admission after 18 months of Active Duty Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 12, 2011 04:55 PM ** Well, unless there's a helluva lot more than what you see on that video, why should he have to? As far as I can tell, he was approached from behind while he was distracted by his phone call, reacted in a startled manner, and in response got his head whacked to the cement by three burly "security guards." Is that grounds for expulsion from any institution, even a military one? (Unless the fact that he was drinking at all was grounds, but that doesn't seem right since he was in civilian mode. He was 23, I think.) **I hope that kid sues the hell out of the thugs and LaBelle and wins. Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 12, 2011 04:50 PM** Me, too.

145 A man definitely looks better in combat fatigues than in mom jeans. As I've said before, Barbie will pick GI Joe over Ken every time.

Agreed, but try to picture the Community Organizer in fatigues...does not compute.

146 OT: Watching Fox right now and some guy says, re Gabby Giffords, "If anyone can return, it is her"

WTF?  Is she some kind of superwoman that has special abilities to recover from gunshot wounds?  Yes, it is miraculous that she survived a gunshot wound to the head, but she has no better ability to overcome this than anyone else.

I hate this over the top bullshit.

147

He wants nothing more than to hand Rashid Khalidi a Palestinian State.  I would imagine that the LA Times Video illustrates this explicitly.

Posted by: garrett at June 12, 2011 04:03 PM (dqxgo)

yes

148 I remember seeing a pic of the first face-to-face.  Actually. Barry barely looked at BiBi, and Bibi had his hands clenched so tight on the arm-rest, I thought he would bolt.  I thought then, I hope he never returns to meet with that White House fuck.  But he did.  Then on the second visit, he was supremely snubbed when the JEF left him to go dine with the family.  I wondered if Bibi was told of vending machine sandwiches, or maybe, the Senate cafeteria (the navy-bean soup is supposedly the awesome)   Can anyone imagine the JEF being treated in such a despicable manner in Israel?.  This would have set the world aflame.  Not just bad manners, but ignoring and snubbing a world leader, (and probably the most intelligent one around  (name another one, I can't)..  But he still has to dance around the stupid.  He always has his work cut out for him; patiently explaining Israel, their history, while at the same time soothing the feathers of these flaming imbeciles, who insist the the Palasinians are the righteous and raped all down the line.

I mostly hate Hollywood movies.  I'll give them this:  they'll go after the zombies and walking dead with quite succinctness, unless the plot is about white men in corporations, who are screwing the world with their greed, and leaving the working class (o.k., paid $75 an hour to secure a door on a Volt, or be your children's teacher.  Now don't forget, with the union push, a teacher may take 5 days off, for no reason.  At all.)  This the "personal day", when no excuse is required or wanted.

149 Heh, catching T-Paw replay, and he says "Obama is leading from behind"

If he calls him the "Hindmost", he gets my vote.

150

That's why Israel doesn't admit to having nukes.  So some A-hole, any A-hole, can't insist they be disarmed of something they've never admitted to having in the first place.

Posted by: Speller at June 12, 2011 05:35 PM (J74Py)

Okay, but why would they be obligated to do so anyway?

Bibi can just say,"Yeah, we have them, what are you gonna do about it, cockwipes?" and be done with it.

Granted, I'm not an embassy worker for a good reason but still...

 

151 There's a great History Channel special on the 6DW for a few years back...2 things really caught my attention: 1) Somehow Israeli engineers\geologists/experts were able to determine [?!] that a number of key Egyptian bases in the Sinai were NOT protected by "impassable by tank" sand dunes, but there were actually passable "trails" between the dunes, and had these amazing maps made up for the tanks...The Mizrayim, ooops, Egyptians had no clue as the Israeli tanks blazed up on them from "impossible" positions. 2) Israeli MDs had done a lot of work demonstrating the importance of hydration in desert warfare, so the standard for each soldier was 1 litre of water per hour. This was a huge advantage in the war, as many of the "sons of the desert" on the other side actually died of thirst or gave up just to get water. I hope and pray Israel has not lost its boldness and determination.

152

Okay, but why would they be obligated to do so anyway?

I wouldn't use the word obligated.  Pressured or maybe sanctioned would be more appropriate.  They'd be treated like a rogue regime.  Retaining the position of neither affirming nor denying Israel has nuclear weapons is a better, more prudent, path for the Israeli government to take.

153

Posted by: Speller at June 12, 2011 06:23 PM (J74Py)

Yeah but that's been the case off and on for the entire length of Israel's existence. The U.N. hates them, everybody hates them except us.

Everybody knows it. And everybody knows they have nukes.

There's obviously a sophisticated chess game being played that I'm not getting.

154 The Israel Project was handing out some literature. I grabbed the one on Iran - because, if they get nukes, then the whole Near East is fucked and not just the Jews. Probably not even first the Jews; we can look forward to a rampage all up and down the Persian / Arabian Gulf, it's closer to Iran after all.

In December 2004, the "The Committee of the Commemoration of Martyrs of the Global Islamic Campaign" registered 25,000 "martyrs" to infiltrate Iraq. [Source: Matthew Levitt's testimony before Congress, 16 Feb 2005. PDF linked.] They've since moved on to targeting Europe; the Iranians claim 40,000 martyrs as of mid-2006 [Sunday Times of London]. In Islam, martyrdom is death in the cause of Allah, which to a Khomeinist means in the cause of Shi'ite government. I don't think these thousands are showing up as missionaries.

To sum up... "boned".

155 To sum up... "boned".

Posted by: Zimriel at June 12, 2011 06:33 PM (pl1+G)

Israel should wait for a steady westerly wind and then light up every islamic capitol in the region.

That'll shut 'em up for a while.

156 114 King Obeyme.... Now THAT there is teh funneh! I will have to steal that one.

157 "I don't know, Davie.
Goliath

I do.
The assertion about "returning to pre-1967 borders" is simply false.

158 Maahhhh friends--here is a link to that excellent History Channel production on the 6DW (see #151 above): http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f95_1193420637

159 Posted by: Ian S. at June 12, 2011 05:13 PM (DRhXx) Excellent idea! I'm getting my maskie out now!

160

There's obviously a sophisticated chess game being played that I'm not getting.

It's not chess.  It's poker.  Israel is keeping it's poker face and saying,  "Am I bluffing?  You'll NEVER know unless you up the ante and force me to lay my cards down."   "How much do you want to pay to find out, punk?"

When any nation says Israel must get rid of their nukes they are arguing against a straw man because nobody can say for sure that Israel has any nukes.(aces up the sleeve)

161

When any nation says Israel must get rid of their nukes they are arguing against a straw man because nobody can say for sure that Israel has any nukes.(aces up the sleeve)

Posted by: Speller at June 12, 2011 07:03 PM (J74Py)

That makes no sense. Again, everyone knows that Israel has a nuclear arsenal, even tho they haven't confirmed it.

How is that aces?

162

Again, everyone knows that Israel has a nuclear arsenal

Everyone says the know, but they don't have any confirmation.

Without confirmation no foreign government or groups of foreign governments(eg. European Union or the U.S.) can take any action against Israel, sanctions Israel if they don't give up their nukes, based on a mere guess.

163 Did the DNS get screwed up again, or is WND cross-posting here?

Something called newsflavor.com "reports" about what no one else did and it's taken as Gospel truth why?

164

165 @#162  Otay!

So Israel can't take any action against Iran ....

166 I just picked up a copy of Menachem Begin's account of the Irgun's bombing campaign against the Brits, The Revolt. Apparently, it was also used by Al Qaeda as a terrorist training manual. I'm jazzed because I've been looking for it for a while.

167 So Israel can't take any action against Iran ....

Posted by: Chuckit

They may decide that Iran is the reason to show their cards, or they may not.  ErikW is correct about Israeli reasoning being inscrutable. 

Most other nations would have decided to wallop the Lebanese for harbouring Hizb'allah terrorists they way Lebanon have.  If the stories of Libya's chemweapon stocks being raided by Hama and Hizb'allah earlier this year are true then this year we may get a peek at some of Israel's cards. 

168 You've already been proven a moron, Speller. 
If you want to prove yourself a stubborn moron, keep it up ....

169 I said "what the fuck was that ?" the day after the election in 2008.

170

Surrounded by their enemies, they taught their enemies "don't fuck with us" I admire this sentiment.

Yeah, me too. Somebody needs to teach Odumbfuck that and fast.

171

according to Michael B Oren's definitive work Six Days of War, Israeli casualties were 2,563 wounded and maybe 800 dead.  In per capita terms that would be equivalent to 80,000 American dead, significantly more than the total American dead for the duration of the Vietnam War.   So while the victory was certainly swift and complete, it was not quite the bloodless victory as portraited by the press at the time.

it is also very revealing how much internal discussion and soul searching were involved before the decision to go to war was made.

172

 They were shooting out to 7000m with the 105s the tanks were dug in and parked on a ramp to get elevation.

I don't know much about tanks, but I do understand ballistics from shooting rifles for 30 years.   45* is the angle that gives the furthest ranges for projectiles.   Higher angles send the projectile higher up, but they land closer.   I would assume that all tanks are designed to allow the barrels to point up at least 45*.  I'm not understanding the ramp thing.

173

Surrounded by their enemies, they taught their enemies "don't fuck with us" I admire this sentiment.

Yeah, me too. Somebody needs to teach Odumbfuck that and fast.

No, that would be bad.  His enemies are the Tea Party, white people, productive Americans, and veterans.   The less he is able to learn about being effective the better.

174 "Once we get beyond that, we can start working on why anyone thinks such a diseased culture should be rewarded with a state."

Because liberals always support whoever is most evil and depraved.

175 So much for O's cool, world-class temperatment.

176   Did he slip into an accent? Because THAT would be a big f'n deal. 

177 Creases!  Netanyahu is clearly out of his league.

178 I was 5.

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 No, tanks are not designed to elevate their guns to 45 degrees.  The breech wouldn't fit in the turret.  Tank main guns will elevate to about 10 degrees or so.  And their gunsights aren't designed for that kind of indirect fire. Actually, a more important interest in tank design is increasing the amount by which the gun can be depressed -- to improve the ability to set up "hull-down" behind a ridgeline.polo shirt for men

It's not chess.  It's poker.  Israel is keeping it's poker face and saying,  "Am I bluffing?  You'll NEVER know unless you up the ante and force me to lay my cards down."   "How much do you want to pay to find out, punk?"

182 WTF?  Is she some kind of superwoman that has special abilities to recover from gunshot wounds?  Yes, it is miraculous that she survived a gunshot wound to the head, but she has no better ability to overcome this than anyone else.
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