1 Hard to believe it's been that long ago. Even harder to believe that liberals place a moral equivalency on it with 9/11 in respects to religion.

2 who is blaming "all Muslims" for 9/11?

Are you kidding? Read this blog's comments more often.

3 McQuade is merely parroting B+ Hussein.

4

McVeigh is quoted as saying "Science is my religion."  And I think he was a self-described atheist, not an agnostic.

He sounds like a Lefty blogger to me.  Let's not go and blame them all for the acts of one man.

5 I hate Teh Left.  They're going to get us all killed.

6 The "McVeigh was acting as a religious zealot" ranks right up there with other lefty go-tos as:

"The U.S. gave smallpox blankets to Indians!"

"The U.S. injected black people with syphilis!"

These are articles of faith with the left and facts aren't going to change their mind.

7 McQuade:
please enlighten us about the Catholic practice of blowing shit up - us iggerant folks need your insight.
/

8 'McVeigh didn't blow up a building as part of a mission'


John Doe #2 anyone?



Also, its a shame that the speed with which McVeigh was killed can't be applied to the rest of those on death row.      ('Fry Mumia').

9 It is manifestly clear that Preznint Splutnik has created and saved jobs by the truckful for the willfully ignorant and deceitful. Well done, sir! Well done!

10 He's your brother wingnuts, he is your spawn. He is the result of your fascist beliefs. Deal with it. You are the haters, not the peaceful Muslims. You are the haters when men like Richard Trumpka try to give the poorest among us a chance at a good job, a fair wage and healthcare. You are the Haters of a President just because he is black. I could go on but fuck all of you. You are not worth my time, Like whatever.

11 Everyone with a gun or a bomb is a right-winger to these libtards.  They are still calling that Laughner dipshit - the one that popped those people in Tuscon along with Giffords - a right wing radical...  But they will not dare to label these Islamist pieces of shit "radicals" or even admit Islamic radicalism is behind their actions.

12

history is easily abused by the ignorant

that's a real keeper ...  thanks  and appreciation

 

13 They are still calling that Laughner dipshit - the one that popped those people in Tuscon along with Giffords - a right wing radical...

Reality is whatever the proggs need it to be.  I hear we have always been at war with Eastasia.

14 Sixteen years from now, some young whippersnapper, still wet behind the ears, will write a piece just like this -- only about how the Obama Administration raped his and his generation's future. 

Mark your calendar, son.

15 Reality is whatever the proggs need it to be. I hear we have always been at war with Eastasia. That's that black girl that won American Idol isn't it? What did she do to us?

16

Are you kidding? Read this blog's comments more often.

Hey, fucktard--thanks for making my day so early in the morning.

If you really want to get into this--read up on the Koranic way of war and then try to reconcile it with western notions of just war.  Hint:  You can't.

No, not all Muslims are to blame for 9/11, but the mindset that the religion brings with it is.  See the difference?

17 the speed with which McVeigh was put down was amazing. Nobody wanted McVeigh talking, apparently, especially John Doe #2, and those who didn't want him found

18 "Blaming all Muslims and Arabs for the acts of the hijackers of 9/11 is like blaming all Catholics for the acts of Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City," U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade said Monday, referring to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and the 1995 bombing of a federal building.

All Muslims are responsible for 9-11. McViegh was not a "Catholic: as much as he was a Nazi. But as for how fast the SOB was executed that has to do with himself.

He requested it.

19 I typically commemorate the even by re-reading Ben Partin's initial report on the blast, which was buried as soon as it was released - that being the first of several wake-up calls I received during the Clinton administration informing me, ultimately, that something was destroying the country I thought I lived in. If there are 9/11 Conservatives, I guess I'm ultimately a 4/19 Conservative.

20

"Blaming all Muslims and Arabs for the acts of the hijackers of 9/11 is like blaming all Catholics for the acts of Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City," U.S. Attorney Barbara McQuade said Monday, referring to the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and the 1995 bombing of a federal building.

As usual, libtards can't tell the difference between the acts of a lone whack job and the ongoing, world-wide pattern of constant daily murder and abuse conducted by, and condoned by, muslims in general.  Even had McVeigh still thought of himself as some kind of Christian, the fact is that real Christians found his deed abhorent, and made no bones about saying so.  Muslim murderers, on the other hand, get sympathy from the muslim population right out in public, along with avid, enthusiastic endorsement by muslims in private or in mosques where they think no outsiders listen. 

 

21 Well, I suppose one could blame all lapsed Catholics for OKC. People like McQuade see religion as a circumstance of birth. Muslim is an ethnicity to them. They not only don't believe religion, but they don't respect it. This isn't surprising, considering how much of their academic career is dedicated to dissecting the shallow aspect of race. It's all they know. There are so many attempts at equivocation here, it's hard to identify the most stupid one. Just observe that Islam is the only truly international terrorist movement. The IRA, the Basques, the Tamil Tigers all fight for a specific goal in their own region. Islamic terror is the only one without a specific goal or target. Even McVeigh's psychopathology had a source -- Waco. Islamic terrorists lash out at the infidels, wherever they find them. And terrorism-as-jihad been going on in the modern age since at least Munich 1972. Thanks for the post and your remembrances, Gabe.

22 Just observe that Islam is the only truly international terrorist movement. The IRA, the Basques, the Tamil Tigers all fight for a specific goal in their own region. Islamic terror is the only one without a specific goal or target.

Posted by: AmishDude at April 19, 2011 08:28 AM (EXiub)

Well said.  And on top of that, wherever Islam has become dominant, all aspects of life have stagnated, and then regressed.  They're a cancer - they bring only pain and death everywhere they are found.  Even the benign ones are a nuisance.

23 Hard to believe it was that long ago... also hard to believe it was 18 years ago that the Branch Davidian compound was destroyed. The winds were howling then in Texas, just like all this week.
Anyway, what would liberals really have if not for moral equivalence?

24 Yes, because you can readily find in Catholic Doctrine the pretext for murdering innocent people.

After all, it happens so often and is cited as part of the reasoning for a continuous string of dastardly acts over the ages.

25

Ladies first.

26 24 Yes, because you can readily find in Catholic Doctrine the pretext for murdering innocent people.

but but.....The Crusades! and the inquisition!

27 23, No shit, Tomothy McVeigh was executed in a big hurry. How about Janet Reno? Were the children at WACO less valuble that the children at Oklahoma City? Where is their memorial? You are exactly right when you say it is moral equivlence. It is what allows Governments to murder it's own citizens. No pentalties, no lost sleep. There are thousands accross this land that have a little four word mantra. No more free WACOs.

28 Posted by: maddogg at April 19, 2011 08:36 AM (OlN4e) Fuckers.

29 "...who is blaming "all Muslims" for 9/11?"

I am.

The inaction and passivity of the "peaceful" Muslim world has given tacit approval to the bloodthirsty acts of of their more violent brethren.

I hold the German people responsible for the holocaust. They allowed it to happen. I hold Japanese people responsible for the atrocities committed in their name by their armies. Why should the Muslim world be absolved?

That does not mean that I want to punish the entire Muslim world for the actions of a comparative few, but until they are held responsible, and understand that responsibility, nothing will change.

30 CNN had a decent special on the slaughter at Waco the other night that was fairly good

31 I seem to recall McVeigh yelling "Jesus Saves!" as he finished setting up the detcord.

32 I typically commemorate the even by re-reading Ben Partin's initial report on the blast,


Why was it buried? 

I remember the day and my dad telling me, 'Girl, don't believe any shit you hear from here on out about this.  First, at least two guys did this (he was a cop all his life - since hs). Second, that man ain't no Catholic.  He's a Catholic like I'm a Coke drinker.  Get me another beer.'

33

oh and 50 bucks we see endless stories on all the networks about how eerily similar the tea party and tim mcveigh are.

34 Timothy McVeigh was as catholic as Suleimain the Magnificent.....


He took last rites, but he did not confess his sins before God which shows "just how devout" he was.

35 29 CBD,

"radical" and "moderate" Islam are the one two punch....

they're partners not enemies....the "moderates" like the CAIR bears get the camel's nose in the tent then they threaten you with the "radicals"

36

McVeigh was evil and an idiot. There are no excuses for what he did. He not only caused immense suffering and loss of innocent life he provided the perfect coverup for the biggest crime this country has ever committed against some of it's citizens. Waco was worse than Roosevelt rounding up and locking up Japanese American citizens during WWII.

The Nazi's like Clinton burned buildings full of people who were locked in and no avenue of escape, before that the British did it during the revolution.

I have no sympathy for David Karesh but there were dozens of innocent men women and children that died in that fire and McViegh made the barbaric act by our government dissappear.

37 Still not convinced that the McVeigh wasn't mixed up with the jihadis.

38 Posted by: robtr at April 19, 2011 08:54 AM (MtwBb)

This

39 >>.the "moderates" like the CAIR bears get the camel's nose in the tent then they threaten you with the "radicals" CAIR is not "moderate". Never has been. They are a creation of the Muslim Brotherhood and act as their mouthpiece and provide them cover.

40

Ladies first.

Posted by: maddogg at April 19, 2011 08:36 AM (OlN4e)

 

Looks like Muammar Gaddafi is making good on his vow to turn Europe black by allowing tens of thousands of Muslim freeloaders to pass through Libya on their way to Europe, instead of returning them to their home countries as he had been doing for years

Yep. That is what I have been arguing with myself about for a week. It is almost planned don't you think? How much support is Obama giving these terrorists refugees? How many will be given a free pass to the good ole US of Obama? (Apologies to America)

 

41 Come on, doesn't everybody remember the Catholics celebrating in the street, passing out candy to the children?

42 37 Still not convinced that the McVeigh wasn't mixed up with the jihadis.

There were some rumors that Saddam Hussein's agents were mixed in with McVeigh, albeit very indirectly, but those were never confirmed. 

43 I remember after the OKC bombings, everyone at St. Elizabeth's parish dancing in the streets and handing out sweets as we celebrated the just killing of the Lutheran heretics. They were Lutheran, weren't they? Aaaaaah, shit.

44

The biggest question for me about the entire Waco incident was why the ATF assault team was sent into what they knew was a heavily armed compound populated with people who were willing to die. The ATF team was shot to pieces, as anyone with any sense would have expected. Why? Why were they sent in? As a ten year cop with SWAT for seven of those, I can't believe those guys thought they were going to be able to force a surrender with such a small assault element. Did Reno, or whoever made the "Go!" call,  figure that a sacrificial assault would provide political cover for the slaughter to come?

I don't know the whole story, the details or anything else going on in the minds of those who made that decision but it seems incredibly stupid to me.

45 out stupid sock.

46 I don't remember Catholics handing out candy and joyously ululalting in the street. I'll never forget my horror when veiwing the celebratory environment in the muslim countries after 9/11.

47 Waco is a good slap in the face to all the idiots who pine for the good old days of Bill Clinton, Janet Reno, and Jamie Gorelick.

48 Gee, I thought McVeigh bombed the Murra Building because of the tanning tax. Who knew it was radical Catholicism? I am so confused. Where is Katy Couric to straighten out all this information? Didn't Loughner shoot Gabby because of Sarah Palin? Didn't Sirhan Sirhan shoot one of those inbred Kennedy's because of the Jooos? Didn't those mean southerners burn Black Churches in the 1990s? Thank God for Clinton. We are such an angry violent country. Why can't we be peaceful like South Side Chicago and LA? Where is the love?

49

46 I don't remember Catholics handing out candy and joyously ululalting in the street. I'll never forget my horror when veiwing the celebratory environment in the muslim countries after 9/11.

Well, you don't get many opportunities to celebrate when you live in Muslim shitholeistan. And misery loves company.

50

My children were babies when OKC was bombed.  I cried for days.  I also visited that memorial with a dear friend.  Very moving. 

Thank you Gabriel.

51 You know, the most dangerous thing about liberals in today's America is that they are always making policy decisions based upon three fallacies: a. Woeful ignorance of the subject at hand, b. Extrapolation of their own cowardice onto their opponents, i.e. expecting their opponents to react the way they do, and c. Willful refusal to grasp that the Law of Unintended Consequences applies both to their world view and to the schemes that they use to enforce that world view upon the rest of us. They are, in a phrase, without a clue. This is not so dangerous when they are out of power. However, they have held the reigns of power, less so after 2010, for going on three years now. this has the potential to get a lot of people killed by 2012. I don't know what the communists, anarchists and union goons have in store for 2012. But they had better think long and hard about any really bold stuff.

52

Nice retrospective, Gabe. I remember being in a mall that day, and an alarm went off, security gates came down to secure the interior, and the mall was vacated.

Also remember my wife gasping when she saw the picture of the building with its entire facade blown off. Both of us with tears in our eyes when we saw the picture of Baylee Almon in the firefighter's arms - a heart-wrenching picture to begin with, and Baylee looked like our own one year old, but with blood all over her.

This won't be popular here, but I also remember Bill Clinton on the radio saying quietly that the feds were already all over the case, they would most certainly find the guilty parties, that they would seek the death penalty, let's pray for the victims, and now let us go to work and do our jobs here. One of his best moments.

On McQuade and her ilk, why liberals cannot find it within themselves, when confronted with twisted evil staring them right in the face, to simply recognize and acknowledge it for what it is, is a sad mystery that can't really be explained. 

53

McVeigh was evil and an idiot

evil yes, idiot no.

He was a decorated War vet with the knowledge and ability to put together a fairly complicated terrorist attack, which he did almost singlehandedly.

He clearly was misguiding and committed a horrendus crime, but it would be a mistake to cast him as an idiot.

 

54

2 seconds after 9/11 -the LEFT'S only response was  " but but but "Timothy McVeigh!"  [insert standard lefty whine]

 

It was and still is - universal stupidity.

55

Posted by: Ben at April 19, 2011 09:12 AM (wuv1c)

Evil, yes. Misguided and deluded, yes. Stupid, no. Coward, no.

56

We killed McVeigh with the death penalty.

Shouldn't that make the collective left cry?

57

Still not convinced that the McVeigh wasn't mixed up with the jihadis.

There were some rumors that Saddam Hussein's agents were mixed in with McVeigh, albeit very indirectly, but those were never confirmed. 

I don't buy that. McVeigh, if I'm not mistaken went to Sapper school and was well versed in explosives and planning in the army during his three year hitch. I think he even made a statement along the lines of saying that he did this himself as he had the knowledge and knowhow.

58

56 He clearly was misguiding and committed a horrendus crime, but it would be a mistake to cast him as an idiot.

exactly. God help us if the mulllahs manage to get 10 guys with his intelligence and competence.

59 the Code of Hammurabi (eye for an eye) which predates Christianity by a thousand years or so. No version of Christianity encourages  'Code of Hammurabi type of thinking' to this day -- and most Church leaders are opposed to the death penalty on this grounds.

Interestingly, though, the code of Hammurabi is really the basis for "social justice," which many liberal elites in most western Christian churches hold higher than the Gospel itself.

60

We killed McVeigh with the death penalty.

Shouldn't that make the collective left cry?

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at April 19, 2011 09:16 AM (0fzsA)

There was a guy recently who killed his ex-girlfriend in Illinois.  Before doing the deed, he researched on the internet whether IL has the death penalty or not.  It doesn't (made official by an act of the most recent governor, but it had been de facto unused for years).

But it's not a deterrent.

61 Just a point of clarity. Didn't McVeigh attack the Murra building as pay back for the Waco fiasco? I remember that day as well. Amazing what an incompentent lesbian and a horndog can cook up just to please the missus.

62 >>I don't buy that. McVeigh, if I'm not mistaken went to Sapper school and was well versed in explosives and planning in the army during his three year hitch. I think he even made a statement along the lines of saying that he did this himself as he had the knowledge and knowhow. You should read the Rohrabacher inquiry report. There are a lot of unanswered questions and many coincidental relationships. It's a shame that any real in-depth look at this crime has been ignored. http://tinyurl.com/yhgulf

63 Funny, I just remember Bill Clinton blaming "talk radio".

64 "The Clinton era . . spawned an armed militia movement involving tens of thousands of people. The last time anything like this occurred was in the 1850's with the emergence of the southern gun clubs. It is easy to dismiss the militia as right-wing nuts: it is much harder to read the complex sociology of civic revolt. . . No official has ever lost a day's pay for precipitating the incineration of 80 people, most of them women and children, in the worst abuse of power since Wounded Knee a century ago. Instead of shame and accountability, the Clinton administration accused the victims of setting fire to themselves and their children, a posthumous smear that does not bear serious scrutiny. It then compounded the injustice by pushing for a malicious prosecution of the survivors. Nothing does more to sap the life of a democracy than the abuse of power." Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, The Secret Life of Bill Clinton

65

I had a crappy office/consulting job in April 1995, but the guy I worked for was a tech geek and already had computers with AOL and Netscape.  This was the first disaster that some people could watch on the Internet, and I did.  It was a horrifying and scary time.  I was in DC and my office was in Bethesda, MD next door to a small federal office building.  We closed for two days just to be on the safe side because we did not know if this was a coordinated attack on federal buildings.

I had also been to OKC in 1994 for a conference and met several of the HUD staff there, all of whom died in the bombing.  HUD lost more people than any other agency. 

66 I don't remember Catholics handing out candy and joyously ululalting in the street. I'll never forget my horror when veiwing the celebratory environment in the muslim countries after 9/11.

Yeah, and the MSM  really made sure they didn't slip and show those images to the rubes public again.

67 I don't buy that. McVeigh, if I'm not mistaken went to Sapper school and was well versed in explosives and planning in the army during his three year hitch. I think he even made a statement along the lines of saying that he did this himself as he had the knowledge and knowhow.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I agreed with the jihadist/Saddam Hussein linkage theories;  I only wanted to confirm that such theories existed.  You're probably right that McVeigh acted alone.

68

You should read the Rohrabacher inquiry report. There are a lot of unanswered questions and many coincidental relationships. It's a shame that any real in-depth look at this crime has been ignored.

My personal theory is that the reason it wasn't looked into further was because McVeigh didn't fit the description of what Clinton and Co were selling him as. As some Republican Rush Limbaugh type.

Also, when you deal with anti-government groups, you're bound to be dealing with some foreign agents, knowling or unknowingly.

Just think about america. of course we have foreign agents in anti-government movements in other countries, so why would it be crazy to think they have foreign agents in our country. Providing some dollars and goading them on.

I doubt there is some grand conspiracy. I honestly believe that McVeigh's only help involved procuring the explosives and money to pull it off. 

69 @32 / momma:

- Why was it buried? 

I suppose for the same reason that the innernetz have been completely purged of pictures (taken from the parking lot facing the building) showing streetlight poles, still standing across the street an hour or two after the blast - roughly the same distance from the Ryder truck that supposedly snapped 2-3'' concrete support columns like twigs in one direction but left the much flimsier poles still standing in the other.

Just a guess.

70

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I agreed with the jihadist/Saddam Hussein linkage theories;  I only wanted to confirm that such theories existed.  You're probably right that McVeigh acted alone.

oh I know. I think i read that "third terrorist" book some years ago too. I was simply stating that I think it's pretty clear that he was fully capable of pulling it off himself. Let's face it, I'm willing to bet anyone with time in the military could do something similar.

71

Reciprocity is not the basis for social justice theories

Funny, it's the way it works in practice.

But the Golden Rule only works with people who are alike.

Indeed. After all, the Golden Rule would dictate that I should sexually harass like a maniac.

72 knowling=knowingly

73 a truly ignorant woman

She must be ignorant, because a lawyer would never be willfully and deliberately misleading.

74

67  Actually, it only takes one truly competent general to turn an army of idiots into a serious threat. As we keep giving the jihadis another chance, eventually they will find one.

I agree, but my line of thinking would be more along the lines of multiple coordinated attacks across the country carried out by individuals with the ability of McVeigh. To this point the attempted attacks since 9/11 have been thwarted generally by the incompetence of the bombers. As bad as 9/11 was, I think it would cause a much greater social upheaval to have a bomb go off at a shopping mall in Peoria one day, one go off at a minor league baseball game in Savannah the next, one go off at a Rodeo in Cheyenne the next, and so on.

75 I was 10 at the time of the bombing and it was the first time I truly realized there is evil in the world. My mom kept turning-over the magazines and newspapers so that my siblings and I wouldn't see the picture of Baylee Almon but I did see one and it was upsetting beyond words.

To all the victims, rest in peace, and may God bring comfort to the families who are mourning this day. 

76 i don't think he acted alone

77

Don't forget that Catholics around the world have been attacking Muslims and chopping their heads off for blasphemous acts such as burning bibles.

Oh wait....they haven't.

78

TWA Flight 800.

I don't think it spontaneously combusted either.

But back then we weren't looking for the obvious.

79 Imposing collective guilt by collective association is acceptable only when done by the Director of Homeland Security in official government reports accusing "right wing extremists".

http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

80 When has the MFM ever let the facts get in the way of their telling a story?

81 82, It's understandable you feel that way. What many do not understand is the relative ease that such a bomb can be constructed. There were no fancy plastic explosives or materials that are not available to the masses whether over the counter or solen from unguarded facilities. There are thousands of people with Timmy's knowledge. That one fact scares the would be socialist Gov. far more than it scares you or I.

82 dagny...i'm with you on that one too

83

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at April 19, 2011 09:51 AM (cDRYC)

Anybody with an Army field manual on improvised explosives could have put that bomb together. It was not sophisticated, just big.

84 I went to the same high school as Timothy McVeigh, and graduated in the same class as his younger sister - Starpoint Central School in Pendleton, NY. It's a nice icebreaker at parties.

85 90, let me guess, He was a quiet guy that kept to himself.............

86 Why was it buried? 

I suppose for the same reason that the innernetz have been completely purged of pictures (taken from the parking lot facing the building) showing streetlight poles, still standing across the street an hour or two after the blast - roughly the same distance from the Ryder truck that supposedly snapped 2-3'' concrete support columns like twigs in one direction but left the much flimsier poles still standing in the other.

Just a guess.



No, I meant what did it say?  What was in it that was so damning?

87 92, It says Bush and Cheney brought down those towers. Same stuff Momma, same stuff.

88 My intuition that there was a Muslim terrorist connection was not triggered by John Doe 2 but rather right when I learned that Terry Nichols had traveled to the Phillipines on multiple occasions.

89 88 McVeigh may very well have been an outlier but he would truely be an incredible exception to the rule. I never said that he didn't act alone or didn't know how or wasn't pissed or crazy enough. I'm just not sure that "John Doe 2" never existed, that the pattern of islamists blowing shit up didn't include this, and that what that would mean wasn't covered up. If americans got annoyed, put together bombs and blew up buildings, it seems as if it would have happened more than once.

90

Islamic terrorism.  110% sure of it.  I didn't get there through deductive reasoning, but rather through intelligence guided by experience. 

My gut is 110% sure it was islamic terrorism.

91 92 Why was it buried? 

I suppose for the same reason that the innernetz have been completely purged of pictures (taken from the parking lot facing the building) showing streetlight poles, still standing across the street an hour or two after the blast - roughly the same distance from the Ryder truck that supposedly snapped 2-3'' concrete support columns like twigs in one direction but left the much flimsier poles still standing in the other.

Just a guess.

Ever hear of a shaped charge?

92 My roommate was one of the agents killed at Waco so it's a very touchy subject for me.

93

(79) @ Hobbes-

I agree with you; a coordinated set of attacks on various civilian targets would be devastating. I often wonder what might have been if Bush had not grounded all air traffic on 9/11. I wonder how many lives were spared, and how many other targets averted.  

94

^{Posted by: Ben at April 19, 2011 09:12 AM (wuv1c)}

He was also a Tweaker.

95 One thing I'll never forget is that even several miles away and hours later little pieces of paper were still falling from the sky.

And when I got home that night I found that a family up the way was now without a mother or a father.

I really don't want anymore days to remember...April 19th and September 11th are enough.

96 @92 / momma

- No, I meant what did it say?

Probably best to read it yourself and draw your own conclusions.

Briefly, Partin determined that there was absolutely no way, given the immutable laws of physics, that a low-brissive ANFO explosion from a truck bomb on the street could possibly have imparted enough energy / psi to the structural components of the Murrah building to do the damage that resulted. There are copies of his report on the web. I believe Michael Rivero had a copy on his site... before he went "Charles Johnson" insane.

Partin has of course since been marginalized, demonized, misrepresented and characterized as a crank and a conspiracy whack-job.

97 I also never bought the story about flight 800 Dagny.

98 Posted by: goy at April 19, 2011 10:32 AM (AfU1B)


Thanks.  I was a history major in college until I got sick and needed brain surgery.  Turns out the surgery wiped out all my history storage.  I can't remember historical facts, dates, etc.  I have to relearn it all and the dates still won't stick with me. (Sitting here right now I can't even give you ballpark dates for WW1 and WW2, and those were my main studies in college)  But, I can remember everything to do with my life at the time, I can't remember facts about the OCB (just vague generalities).

So thanks for info and sorry I appear to be really ignorant.  I really wasn't until a few years ago

99 @104 / momma

Well that's gotta suck. Sorry to hear.

Partin's report is a pretty interesting read... not that anyone is ever going to look at it rationally now that the "official" story has rendered it moot.

As I suspected - Rivero still has a copy at his site, FWIW.

100 As usial our dictator protects terrorists and blames the TEA PARTIES for everything becuase OBAMA is a radical extremists

101

April 2005 I was taking a hottie to the Sweetheart of Sigma Chi Ball. mmm good times. Sorry about that McVeigh thing, though.

102 Waco had a much bigger impact on my psyche back when because it was the United States government using tanks on its own citizens. And this was after Ruby Ridge. Un. Be. Lievable.

103

Posted by: momma at April 19, 2011 10:46 AM (penCf)

My goodness momma!! Thats incredible.  I have no excuse.  I just have a lousy memory lol! 

104

Those folks who say McVeigh was Catholic have considerable overlap with those who say Hitler was.

If you're so sure they were Catholic, what parish did they regularly attend? As adults, twerp. Not dragged as kids.

*crickets*

That's what I thought. Shove that in your mind.

105 Read the ongoing stories about the missing "3rd man". They appear now to know that he was/is a Muslim fanatic.

Muslims did the Murrah Building also.

Check it out.

106 Jayne Davis. Wrote "The Third Terrorist." Read it. She has proof.

107 http://tinyurl.com/4x57dba I mentioned Randy last year, this is the story that came out later. And on a heartbreaking update, one of the men that discovered Randy and help bring him out. He was an NYPD ESU police officer and a reserve Marine. http://tinyurl.com/3jz4knr http://tinyurl.com/3rvwsm3 Thanks for posting again this year Gabe.

108 Not all arabs and muslims as radical extremists just the ones the liberal media pay attention to