1 You better have an exit strategy!

2 We nominate Mr. Obama for a Peace Prize.

3

You better have an exit strategy!

DON'T  PUSH

4

I had to do something.  Have you seen my polling data lately?

Now watch this drive!

5 So will BHO seek a declaration of war?

6 I said it on the last thread and I'll say it again. The enemy is IRAN. The only reason the UN, Europe, and Obama are going after Qadaffi and Libya is because it is easy. They are all gutless impotent bastards who have neither the inclination, experience, or balls to go after IRAN. This is a freaken waste of time and resources.

7 Are we in this to overthrow the Gadaffi regime and hang him high? Maybe, maybe not.

It's always gratifying when Obama throws people who deserve it under the bus.

8 Little late Obama. I would have agree to intervention of some sort three weeks ago but doing it now is counter productive. We lost any influence we would have garnered with those that would take over.

9 Wait, I thought going to war to enforce a UN resolution was reckless cowboy antics?

NO BLOOD FOR OIL!!!

10 Since a lot of people predicted this was going to happen after other countries led the way, why don't we just name this the Obama "No Air Force left behind" doctrine.

11 he seems to be running off pretty quickly into a French led, UN sponsored African adventure.

and there's the key to understanding

12 American service personnel should only have to fight and die for Americans.  I have not heard my president put forward a compelling national interest here. 

13

It must be really hard, as a Muslim, to declare war on other Muslims.

/

14 When will Obama stop his illegal wars? /s

15 What time is the march?

16 It seems there are an awful lot of unanswered basic questions. For a guy who complained we recklessly went into Iraq (after 6 months or more of debate and preparation) he seems to be running off pretty quickly into a French led, UN sponsored African adventure.

Big mistake; Thinking liberals oppose war just because they say they do. What they actually want is a devalued US, taking a back seat to the UN and EU. So just as long as the US has to sit at the kiddy table he's happy.

17
This is a very reckless move for Obama, and he can now be considered a hawk that capitulated to the whims of republicans and made a very unwise decision that will haunt the republicans for years to come.

18 How is Huff & Puff going to cover this with all the writers on strike?

19 The enemy is IRAN.

It would have been nice, if Obama chose to side with those protesters and call for their leaders to step down. Except we have Carter II in office, antisemitism and everything. Obama hates our allies and coddles our enemies.

20 So what are we going to do if islamists take control after the overthrow of Qackaffy? Whomever it is will have access to some very scarry WMDs ... 

21 So will BHO seek a declaration of war?

Posted by: Penfold at March 18, 2011 11:17 AM (1PeEC)

While Bush did go through Congress as if it was a DOW, indeed it would have been better if he had formally gotten a declaration of war.

The more sensible left raised this point with Iraq - so now the question is will they give their man-god a pass in Libya?

22

American service personnel should only have to fight and die for Americans.  I have not heard my president put forward a compelling national interest here

 

Yeah, I haven't heard Obama put one forward either

23 What time is the march?

Let's get it on.

24 What date are we going to leave?

25 This is a bunch of BS. Gadaffi has already declared a ceasefire and beat the pathetic UN at it's own gain. So if there is a ceasfire what are we going to attack? Wow Obama the war hero !!!!!!!!

26 I think it's premature for us to say we're going to war with Libya.  It strikes me as a FDO (flexible deterrent option), akin to the traditional "battleship diplomacy."  We'll position our forces, run thru some wargaming, and start making incursions into Libyan airspace--but I don't see a long-term engagement rising to even the levels of Allied Force. 

27 Our goal should be to kill Qaddafi, period.  He has been an enemy of America as long as I can remember and we need to send a statement that our enemies have something to fear from us.  No ground troops needed.  Death from Above and then let the rabble sort out the rubble and do whatever the hell they want so long as they don't fuck with us anymore. 

28

OK, donning the tinfoil fedora for a second.

Iraq is winding down, Afghanistan...theoretically in sight.

You have rather fell plans for America, not popular among the largest portion of the armed forces.

Do you really want a large number of combat-hardened veterans around when you try to pull your Big One?

Not sure how much I believe it, but given the other patterns of this crew, it's food for thought...

29
Obama is going to destroy all the good will he has created by Hope & Change in the Mideast.  As fast as poop through a goose.

30 Is there going to be any kind of briefing on what the goals, objectives, and measure of success are? What, exactly, are we doing? For all the caterwauling about Iraq Bush always had a plan or at least a defined goal in mind (Afghanistan, maybe not so much). I thought Obama's initial response was gutless, but let's not be hasty and swing the other direction without consideration. Being a leader requires calculation. Discretion is the better part of valor.

31 The tiny brains of liberals explode all over the country in 5....4....3....

32 I'm not demanding an "exit strategy" like silly liberals do.

Screw that, I am.  And I want all those liberals to be marching and calling for obama and biden to be tried for war crimes.  Right f-ing now, because no blood for oil and all that.

That snark away, just saw Mrs. Clinton say that the goal was for Quaducky to be removed from power.  Ok, lets see...Bush gets 17 UN resolutions before war and that is bad, odipstick gets 1 for a no fly zone and all of a sudden that means not "no libyan planes flying", it means a removal of the dictator.

Now I am all for some lead to the head of Q-duck, but I am trying to see the consistency here in their statements of Iraq vs. Libya.

33 This is going to get uglier that the FLOTUS.

34 Hey, getting rid of Khadafi is good on the humanitarian front, and it makes Obama look like an even bigger hypocrite jackass--assuming that's possible.

35 First I thought bombing children and women will be patriotic again. Yet in fact, it appears Obama has special munitions that can only kill bad guys working for Gaddafi. Their blast leaves the innocent unharmed and even slightly perfumed. See what hope and change can do?

36 Ooh, I feel all leader-y inside!

37 Our goal should be to kill Qaddafi, period. He has been an enemy of America as long as I can remember and we need to send a statement that our enemies have something to fear from us. No ground troops needed. Death from Above and then let the rabble sort out the rubble and do whatever the hell they want so long as they don't fuck with us anymore. Posted by: Dudley Smith at March 18, 2011 11:23 AM (rW+jS) BUT BUT. We have NO idea what would come after Qaddafi. I'd bet it would be worse. And the fact is the last 15 years he has more or less been like a neutered dog. Yeah he might still fund some terrorists, but IRAN has taken over that lock stock and barrel.

38 But not before the Rio getaway, right? Because there is so much tomfoolery to be had!!

39 Now I am all for some lead to the head of Q-duck, but I am trying to see the consistency here in their statements of Iraq vs. Libya.

Guy - they're liberals.  They don't do consistency.

40 We should move American troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq post haste and into Libya because that's where all of the freedom fighters are. Bush's illegal wars can only be forgiven if we have a right and proper intervention.

41 and by the f-ing way, were the iranian protesters not muzzie enough for a little protection.

42 We fully support President Obama in this truly humanitarian endeavor.

43 You know, I don't favor putting our lives on the line for Opposition Unknown, but if we were going to do it, two weeks ago was the time.  Now we're putting lives on the line because His Emptiness wants to beat the 'do-nothing' rap in pursuit of a goal that has already expired.  So fuck him twice.

44

Anybody who supports the UN - in any way - ought to be jailed, since such people are the greatest danger to civilized society that we face - even worse than the aggressive, violent, batshit insane muslim primitives.

We need to gain control of the oil fields in Libya (as the Libyans have proven, along with the rest of the arab/persian/muslim enemies of civilization) and let the Libyans beat the living shit out of each other.  In fact, we should sell both sides lots of small arms to kill each other with.

45 And Kim Jong-Il, the Mullahs in Iran and the Taliban in Pakistan all snicker at this inability of the alleged world power to understand that they intend to kill us if given a chance. Posted by: Mallamutt at March 18, 2011 11:27 AM (OWjjx) And our Allies ( do we have any left? ) are seeing how long it takes "America"- read that Obama- comes to the aid of those it pretends to support.

46

As if your country can afford to be on another warfront! And what for exactly?

Let the Euros deal with it

47 BUSH OBAMA LIED.... AMERICANS DIED !!!!  I thought war was bad Mr. Peace Prize winner.....what a waste of human flesh and when it goes bad and children are killed and baby milk factories destroyed will CNN send Wolf Blitzer to cover the carnage? Will Obama be protests by the peace movement? Will there be mass protests in DC against the boy wonder calling him a liar and a war monger? Obama just stay in Rio and don't come back ever !!!!!!!!!!

48 Gadaffey has already broken the ceasefire. I am guessing he calls the UN's bluff and wins

49 They told me that if I voted for McCain, we would still be getting ourselves involved in military conflicts around the world.

And they were RIGHT!

50 Ah yes, a "French led, UN sponsored African adventure"
involving US troops with O as CinC.  What could possibly go wrong?

51 Blame it on Rio.

52 Have fun storming the castle!

53 Blame it on Rio. Posted by: George Orwell at March 18, 2011 11:30 AM (AZGON) great movie

54 P.J. O'Rourke once suggested a similar policy toward Somilia. Put up a fence, throw in lots of arms, and come back in a couple of years when everyone was dead. 

Two men enter.  One man leaves.

BUST A DEAL, FACE THE WHEEL!!!

55 Let me guess...Another problem left behind by Bush for our brilliant young President. The bastard Bush did it again to our hero Barack 'Ghengis Khan" Obamaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa !

56
The assault on Libya is truly a humanitarian effort, whereas the Bush attack on Iraq was to steal their oil.

57

@51

LOL 

Maybe this time the French won't shoot at us?

58 So Obama is now a neocon?

59

I'm guessing France invades and subsequently surrenders on June 22

60 Nice to see Obumbles and the U.N. doing what Palin suggested, almost a month ago.

61 Is there going to be a no fly zone over Syria too? Now that the south there has blown up what is Oblabla going to do there? I won't even mention Bahrain. Iran will make a move soon. Take it to the bank.

62 Gaddafi's uniform: Fruit salad Obama's approach: Tossed salad

63

We should have just attempted a strike to kill the Duck and his inner circle.  This is a useless excercise, and for what?  To possibly put a Muslim Bro'hood type regime in place and to qualm Europe's fears about where they'll get their precious oil from, perhaps staunch the flow of refugees to Europe so they don't  have to make the tough choices?  Because that's what I see the situation as now -- this has nothing at all to do with getting rid of a vicious despot ,or aiding democracy, or even helping innocent people from getting slaughtered.

We'd better not take the lead on this thing -- Euros out in front; the bastiges wanted to pound their chests...now let's see if they've got the junk to actually swing.

64 OBAMA IS GOING TO BOMB LIBYA FOR THE FILTHY GREASY EVIL OIL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

65 You know how you can tell there's no definable American interest involved (beyond killing Gadaffi on general principles)? The UN, the Euros and a guy like Obama are for it.

BUT THE OIL!!!!

66 Maybe this time the French won't shoot at us? Posted by: Beagle at March 18, 2011 11:32 AM (sOtz/) It's not like they hit anyone? ( Actually I know we took casualties in Operation Torch)

67 BTW:

Yesterday I asked what the over/under of Obama saying we/he were Irish :

He did:

“Now, speaking of ancestry, there has been some controversy about my own background. Two years into my presidency, some are still bent on peddling rumors about my origins. So today, I want to put all those rumors to rest. It is true my great-great-great-grandfather really was from Ireland. It’s true. Moneygall, to be precise. I can’t believe I have to keep pointing this out.”So today, I want to put all those rumors to rest. It is true my great-great-great-grandfather really was from Ireland

68 The war is lost.

69 Has Palin tweeted yet? This is going to be hilarious! Maybe even Hillarious!

70

NO BLOOD FOR OIL

Er, wait.

71 Khadaffi is certainly not another Hannibal but with his big Bulgarian nurse and his all Amazon bodyguards he would be a match for your dear wimpy President I reckon

72 Ya know the saddest thing is that Obama has now almost single handedly handed over leadership of the Free World to "Whoever". This week "Whoever" seems to be France

73 Doesn't President McFuckstick need to brief Congress 48 hours before we go to war? Is he going to call in air strikes from the beach in Brazil, the golf courses, the bars, or while playing B-ball at the hotel with the Bro's? Wow what a manly man !!!!!!!!!!

74 Okay. What needs to happen, because compared to Bambi I'm a Genius of Strategery: 1. Go to Congress. Get, at minimum, an authorization for force. Use the War Powers Act if you want. 2. Go on TV and say, "Gaddafi, Khaddafy, or Qaddaffi -- take your pick -- is massacring his people and has American blood on his hands and has spectacularly bad taste in clothing, take your pick, so we've teamed up with the Brits/Frogs/UN to kill him, although we're not going to say that explicitly. (Ooops!) 3. Destroy his air force and as many of his bases, armored vehicles, and mercenaries as possible in a 30-day period. Kill Daffy if possible too. Make sure to kill some kittens and baby ducks just to make it complete. (Hat tip: Rantburg) 4. After 30 days, see if Brits/Frogs/UN have any fight left in them. If so, bomb the rubble and keep going after Qaddafi/Khaddafy/Gaddafy until he dies. If not, go to UN and say "Okay, we're done. See you at the first hole," and go home. I'm a complete civilian but that's probably more planning than Bambi has done.

75 I might add: a Europe that really didn't give two shits about our 911 and war dead, that lectured us constantly and tried to trip us up daily when their freaking oil scam was working for them, and a Europe who didn't see a problem with releasing the Lockerbie bomber (because they are oh so humane, and for oil deals...but mainly the ____fill in the blank folks, I'm sure you'll reach the right answer).

76
The Libya no-fly was created by our allies in an effort to save Barky's ass. 

77 Lemme guess: Some news organization did a survey and doing something in Libya got 51% support, and anything that could possibly go wrong can be blamed on Hillary Clinton.

78 This is fucking stupid. This is the functional equivalent of trying to prop up the Bloods or the Crypts against MS-13 because MS-13 have to go since they are the most vicious or something. Where the hell were the calls for a cease fire and UN resolutions when the "protesters" were shooting soldiers and burning down military and government buildings? Half this shit is tribal warfare and the other half is religious sect warfare. None of whom would hesitate for 5 minutes if the opportunity to gang rape a non Muslim came along. The French and Italians have vested interests in certian tribes and people there. Fine, let them protect their investments. We don't and Libya hasn't added to our problems with extremists. The only help the "protesters" want is for us the kill their enemies and go away. That doesn't sound like someone looking towards freedom and democracy for all.

79 This is always how it begins. It's always a humanitarian mission that leads to greater involvement that leads to open warfare. This is insane. There is no plan here except to "bomb them." And what happens if Gaddafi's forces shoots down a plane or two and captures some pilots? Obama will have another Carter-like hostage crisis on his hands. This also cannot end with just a no-fly zone. You will have to sink Gaddafi's ships since Benghazi (the rebel stronghold) is on the coast. Then you will have to take out Gaddafi's anti-aircraft artillery, then his tanks, and certainly his air bases and aircraft. Don't know about you, but this seems a lot like a war to me. And there never, ever, is a plan on what the end game is going to be. To simply say that we want a dictator to leave is no longer an option. We said the same thing in Iraq and we all saw how "short" that committment turned out to be. If Obama utters the words "Shock and Awe," I think I may be sick.

80 You know eduction, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well.  If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq Libya. 

81 It's a Bosnia redux. Or is it Somalia? I don't know all these undeclared, adventurist wars from Democrat President's all look the same...

One thing for sure. They will replicate their success in Gaza.

82

What's our national interest here? As best I can tell, it's putting two in Qadaffie's forehead. We owe him that many. There should be no expiration date on national vengeance. "We never forget" is something wannabe enemies should factor into their decision making process.

Drew, it's not often that you make my nipples hard, but damn if they couldn't cut glass right now.  This.  A thousand times this.

On the other hand, I hope we don't send in our infantry.  Qaddafi also has infantry, and infantry is infantry, so we'll likely have an equal amount of casualties.

 

83 Posted by: Rocks at March 18, 2011 11:38 AM (Q1lie) Yup- absolutely correct

84 On the other hand, I think honestly laying out the goals of a campaign is a vital part of making the military decision to go to war in a democracy.

From this administration?

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

[inhale]

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

85 Hey Obama, here is a suggestion....JUST FOLLOW SARAH PALIN'S LEAD....

86 Hey Hey Ho Ho I won't go !!!!!!!!!! No blood for er... er.... er... what ever !

87 Relax, our bombs will be dropping on empty patches of sand. Gotta use up that arsenal somehow...

88 74 Khadaffi is certainly not another Hannibal but with his big Bulgarian nurse and his all Amazon bodyguards he would be a match for your dear wimpy President I reckon

Ghadaffi dresses better than Michelle O, so he's got that going for him. 

89 So Barry is now an arrogant warmongering cowboy? He spent less time debating war and received fewer UN resolutions sanctioning Gaddafi than Booosh did. So I guess he's worse. Where are the giant puppets of Obama dripping blood? This sucks without puppets. And Janeane Garofalo picking lice from her hair while screaming racism. We don't get any good street rage any longer. At least the guys in Madison were ugly and had filthy feet.

90

We should have just attempted a strike to kill the Duck and his inner circle. 

Posted by: unknown jane at March 18, 2011 11:33 AM (5/yRG)

Q'Daffy, The Duck of Death.

91
With all the bombing to come in Libya, I'm really concerned for guyya.

92 New York Times Apr 16, 1986

Congressional leaders from both parties asserted today that the Administration had failed to consider their views adequately before ordering the air raid against Libya on Monday and that Congress should be consulted more closely before any future counterterrorist actions.

Senator Lowell P. Weicker Jr., a Connecticut Republican, said the military attack was ''no different than what Qaddafi had done'' in mounting terrorist operations against Americans. ''I don't want the United States at that level,'' he said.

In an interview, Mr. Weicker said he feared that the Administration was leading the country toward a series of violent confrontations in such places as Nicaragua and Angola, as well as Libya. He said: ''All of these things indicate a disjointed, incoherent foreign policy that could end up with something very real in the way of conflict.''




BTW - Former Sen. Weicker endorsed Obama in 2008, so  -- awkward!

93 Our goal should be to kill Qaddafi

Dutch Reagan had the right idea after the Pan Am 103 bombing, but that sent two F-111 pilots didn't return. Nevertheless those guys gave their lives for Americans and to prevent further American casualties.  This goat rope is going is not the answer.

94 Nice of Barry to dither while Reverend Wright's buddy slaughtered the rebels, and then said "enough" when it was all over....  Versus his policy in Egypt where his Muslim Brotherhood pals got support....

He was legally born an American, but clearly wasn't raised as one...

95

So, United States foreign policy is being driven by the fact that Obama's father abandoned him years ago.

Posted by: Mallamutt at March 18, 2011 11:39 AM (OWjjx)

I think that event is what drives ALL of his policy. 

96 Did you know that the going rate for a barrel of oil is just one pint of blood? In view of the dangers from nuclear fallout and the improved exchange rates, we are revising our investment strategy.

97 74 Khadaffi is certainly not another Hannibal but with his big Bulgarian nurse and his all Amazon bodyguards he would be a match for your dear wimpy President I reckon Posted by: aussie at March 18, 2011 11:36 AM (O8zaC) Yes, Bambi does seem to enjoy cowering before buxom females. Maybe the CIA is kidnapping Ducky's nurse now to fly to DC for, uh, interrogation at the White House.

98 BTW - Former Sen. Weicker endorsed Obama in 2008, so -- awkward! Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at March 18, 2011 11:41 AM (DhByh) Who knew he was still alive?

99 Apparently someone must have told Barack that this would be bad for Israel.

100

NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL! NO BLOOD FOR OIL1

Think you will see the leftards in Frisco carrying that around anytime soon?

101

I think that event is what drives ALL of his policy. 

The closer to June we get...the more irrational he becomes.

102 How many muslim wars do we got now? I count 4.
Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Libya.

Yeah Af + Pak are really the same war, but it's two countries. My simplistic war definition is that when one country drops bombs on another country ... that counts as war.

Let's just blow up Daffy, his sons, his top generals, and his military assets and let Egypt take over the oil ports.

Get this over with quick.

103 Going to war to get Qadaffi to up his bribes is what it sounds like and it's a good idea; never leave payoff money on the table.

104 Apparently someone must have told Barack that this would be bad for Israel. Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2011 11:42 AM (oYg0m) It is. This "no fly zone" is just a dress rehearsal for what Obama intends for Israel if he ever gets a second term- G-D forbid

105 I liked the idea of a quick and dirty undeclared and completely 'illegal' (international law is a fiction) strike to hit Quadaffy when he was reeling.  A slow and gradual mostly inneffectual international police action leading to years of occupation for nothing but death and wasted effort not so much.  Which pin-headed professor will be tasked to write sharia into the new Libyan constitution?  Where is Noah Feldman when we need him?   

106 Hey, Progressives! How's my backwash taste?

107

I have to admit, I sort of enjoy taking the lefty arguments from 2003 and shoving them back into their collective faces. There's a lot of thumb-sucking going on in libtardia right now. Add in all the vacation/March Madness/golf stuff, and there's a lot of bacxkpedaling and thumb-sucking going on in Libtardia right now.

 

108 PIMF. dammit!

109 Obama's strategy here? Three words: Nurse Galyna Kolotnytska

110 I assume the French won't be leaving the targeting meetings and whipping out their cellphones to call their buds in the Libyan government to tell them where we'd be bombing, like they did in Serbia.

Or that the British won't start packing up to go home the first time a bomb actually hits something, like they did in Serbia.  Oh wait, the Brits are in the biggest demobilization since 1945, they'd have a hard time finding anything to send anyway.

I'm quite sure that there's a revulsion in this White House that they might actually have to, like, engage in combat with a nation that the Reagan White House bombed, after all, isn't it an article of faith on the Left (even among those semi-converted leftists like Chris Hitchens) that anything Reagan did was ipso facto evil?

111 Q'Daffy, The Duck of Death.

The Duke of Death.  Duke.

112 People think Zero is tone deaf. I say he is perfectly tuned to do the wrong thing at the wrong time. He proves a gift to us. Not only does the right dispise him, but he'll cause the leftards to sit at home on election day. Can he be reelected on the stregnth of the black vote alone. Methinks no.

113

94 Kratos

Hannibal was a good looking bloke - Michelle O is not a good looking bloke

 

114
The liberal excuse makers like Kirsten Powers and Bob Beckel will be telling the world what Obama did was correct and courageous, unlike the war-mongering scab Bush who only went into Iraq to appease his oil buddies,  and Afghanistan to show the Russian's we could succeed where they were defeated. 

115 The closer to June we get...the more irrational he becomes.

Sorry, what's happening in June?

116 My first chance to see my president slice like a f'n hammer.

117 Sorry, what's happening in June? Posted by: blue star at March 18, 2011 11:46 AM (4OCrT) I'm going to Parris Island

118

The Boy From Brazil

 

119 O/T Dane County, WI Judge issues temp restraining order, blocking publication of Act 10, including the collective bargaining changes

120 Senator Lowell P. Weicker Jr., a Connecticut Republican,

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

"coattail-riding bullshit artist" is more like it.

121

Imagine how all the Sunday talk shows are re-writing their agendas right now.

And today is only Friday.

122

what is the reasoning after ignoring the killing in Iran, and Hondurans trying to oust their wanna be dictator. egypt, yemen.

oh and to use a lefty phrase, libyans didn't attack us this year. shouldn't France be doing this as it's in Their national interests not ours.

o and No Blood For Oil.  there a blast from the near recent past.

123 89 On the other hand, I think honestly laying out the goals of a campaign is a vital part of making the military decision to go to war in a democracy.

But we need to pass the legislation go to war first to find out what is in it our goals are

124

so I guess we can expect a hue and cry about 'no blood for oil' any second now....

 

waiting...

 

125 #99 just for the sake of accuracy, Reagan responded to the Berlin disco attack.

126

Sorry, what's happening in June?

Most confusing day in Obama's year.

127

2 pm statement from Obama on Libya.

 

"The bombing begins on the back nine."

128  Watch this afternoon's 'dump'...it should be spectacular.

129 how about a nice loud decapitation strike and then we get the hell out of there? Go play some golf?

130 seeing that I'm ignorant about time differences, is this new?

U.S. nuclear officials suspect Japanese plant has a dire breach

131 O/T Dane County, WI Judge issues temp restraining order, blocking publication of Act 10, including the collective bargaining changes

Time to bring up the original bill, after cuffing the Dem Senators to their desks.

132

>U.S. nuclear officials suspect Japanese plant has a dire breach

 

Related:

White Star Line officials think: gee, that iceberg's pretty close

133 113 Hey, Progressives! How's my backwash taste?

Posted by: Sarahcuda at March 18, 2011 11:44 AM (swuwV)

Ummmm, is that supposed to be a negative comment?

134
You naysayers now understand I can pull the trigger when required.  Now let me get back to polishing my man-stick for tonight's festivities. 

135 I found out why Obama wants a "no-fly" zone in Libya. He plans on being there soon;

http://tinyurl.com/6855s4k

136 Interestingly enough, the guys at JihadWatch have noted that the rebels is Libya are among the most anti- American in the entire region. And... replacing Kolonel K would probably mean an Islamic government.

Do we want/ need another Islamic government?

I'm guessing no, but then again, I'm not a communist and muslim loving liberal.

137 man o man Farrakan, Rev. Wright  and the American Nation  of Islam is sure gonna be p'ssd off.

138 2 pm statement from Obama on Libya: "On Libya, I've instructed my Generals to make me look good. And I expect a full report on how good I look when I get back from Rio. Meanwhile, check out my awesome brackets!"

139 What would Barky Obama do
If he were here right now?
He'd thank EU for following through,
That's what Barky Obama do.

140 The main thing I like about this half-assed plan is putting Daffy and his sons in the ground. It's important that dictators know that if they fuck with us they will end up dead, eventually. And it's even better if they know their family will die to -- no heirs, no sons, no nothing, their family line will come to an end.  That's a real deterrent.

Right now we have Saddam + Sons .= Dead. Adding Daffy + Sons = Dead would make this a real pattern. That might make others, like Kim Jong Il + Sons, start to think twice about some of their actions. Does Chavez have any sons?

Sadly this family annihilation tactic probably doesn't work in Iran, where the motivation is more religious zealotry than personal power. Ahmadinnerjacket is a true believer

141

Do we want/ need another Islamic government?

Hells Yes!

142

No action against Iran - yet Libya will cop it now because it is easy to bomb Benghazi from Malta

Let the Euros deal with this!

Or is it that evil oil? Your wimpy Pres must like that polluting black stuff - because he needs a good supply to be re elected and to keep you plebs happy

143

man o man Farrakan, Rev. Wright  and the American Nation  of Islam is sure gonna be p'ssd off.

Louis Farrakhan should be strung up to the nearest light post by piano wire and left there for all to see.

144

82  The only help the "protesters" want is for us the kill their enemies and go away.

this!!

way too late but can't let a little thing like the middle east ruin his bball picks

145

Islam=oil

Democracy=water

Stir vigorously

146 Havedash: "Ummmm, is that supposed to be a negative comment?"

For a Progressive/Liberal? Yes. Think Silly A. Sullivan, for example.

147

garrett at March 18, 2011 11:58 AM

yeah he's a total shmuck,  wish He would have gone to live in Lybia with his pal.

148 NO BLOOD FOR ENORMOUS-TITTED SWEDISH WHORE/MASSUESSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

149

man o man Farrakan, Rev. Wright  and the American Nation  of Islam is sure gonna be p'ssd off.

Louis Farrakhan should be strung up to the nearest light post by piano wire and left there for all to see.

Posted by: garrett at March 18, 2011 11:58 AM (oYg0m)

Not if the real goal is to further the cause of islamic domination.  Face it, Gadaffi, like several other ex, or soon to be ex mid east leaders, aren't exactly strict adherents to the faith.  There's got to be more to this than meets the eye.

150

Sharia=vinegar

Feedom=baking soda

Apply cap, shake, run

151 hey, did code pink, and ayers visit Lybia in the recent past?

152 freedom...........          gak

153

^{Posted by: Havedash at March 18, 2011 12:05 PM (sFD5n)}

 

Louis loves Moammar. 

So does Rev. Wright...and by default, Obama must be a fan. 

 He (Obama) is being dragged, kicking and screaming, to this.

154 Did Dennis Prager pay for this post or does it coincidentally highlight the moral bankruptcy of libertarian foreign policy?

155 Wait, didn't the U.S. make a deal with Moammar after 9-11? Behave and we'll leave you alone? Those fickle Americans! Amadinijad guessed right--Mubarak guessed wrong. How's a dictator to know?

156 I'd like to know who EXACTLY it is we'd be intervening in this mess for.  What are the goals of these rebels?  What are there beliefs?  Are they students of Madison and Jefferson or of the freakin' Koran?  I'm betting it's the latter.  In that case what possible business do we have saving their asses?  I loathe Q-Duck and have wished him dead since Pan Am 103 so if that were the goal here I'd be okay with that, but then what? We have a whole new Islamic state in N. Africa right next to Egypt and within range of Israel?  Great.

157 Dad's grounded me again. Can you guys please intervene over here, too?

158

Wait, didn't the U.S. make a deal with Moammar after 9-11? Behave and we'll leave you alone?

He had to turn over his WMD programs.  Chem weapons and nukes were traded for removal from the State Sponsors of Terrorism list.

159 The more the talking heads chime in on this, I'm more convinced then ever that The Won should follow his usual MO and let someone else do it.

He's not the guy and this isn't the time or the place.

Just go to Rio and STFU.

160 "You said we'd be greated as Liberators!"

161 Ah, Nation of Islam. My favorite Islamic heresy.  Who says Muhammad was the last prophet? Sure 99.9% of other muslims, but that's all. Nation of Islam brings much need Diversity to Islam. Heretical diversity, but diversity.

Favorite Nation of Islam racist factoid -- Nation of Islam teaches that white people were created by an evil black scientist during 6,000 years of genetic experiments where he tried to create creature devoid of morality and decency and filled only with lies and evil. The lighter the skin the more evil the baby, so he bred blacks for 6,000 years -- killing off the darker offspring and mating the lighter skinned ones together until he killed the ideal soulless, evil, lying race of henchmen -- white people -- which he used to takeover the world from the noble, honest, good black man.

162 Threaten/implement no-fly, aim for decapitation strike, leave. Make it as quick as possible. No "rebuilding effort" or Powell "break-it/bought-it" Doctrine.

163 NO NO NO! A THOUSAND times NO!

I want NOTHING, whatsoever, to do with ANY mission directed by the corrupt UN. They ignore ACTUAL genocide, and then want to get involved in this shit?

They don't have a fucking clue what they are doing, and all that will happen is our guys will get shot up, while having to use dummy bombs and carry unloaded weapons. I'm even pretending that we have a competent CinC, which we clearly do NOT.

Why is the left not going crazy over this? I thought we had no business interfering the other nations . Now we're back to 'wars are ok', right?

164

Just go to Rio and STFU.

Now let's just parse that statement.

Yes, he will go to Rio. But STFU?

We wish. The man is a talker. Sort of like Castro, or Chavez.

Hmmm...

165 156: Not if the real goal is to further the cause of islamic domination.  Face it, Gadaffi, like several other ex, or soon to be ex mid east leaders, aren't exactly strict adherents to the faith.  There's got to be more to this than meets the eye.

This is more correct then most people realize.
The end of Israel is the end game.
 

166 20 So what are we going to do if islamists take control after the overthrow of Qackaffy? Whomever it is will have access to some very scarry WMDs ... 

Posted by: SoCalMe at March 18, 2011 11:21 AM (bKnnS)

Revoke passports of any followers of the religion of pieces, deport the ones who are here, and never allow any back into the country would be a good start....10 years ago.

167

168 Heh, Nation of Islam sounds a lot like Black Liberation Christianity.

We're doing this for actual oil this time -- oil for Europe.  I don't think we get any from Libya...hmmm, now who does?  I had the answer just a moment ago...

We couldn't kill Ducky (without big diplomacy issues with our betters across the pond) while the Euros thought they could make deals with him; something seems to have changed -- now they want us to fight their freaking war for them (watch and see that they don't).  It's the country known as Yugoslavia, with a twist of sweet sweet crude -- and knowing this president, a bit of Somalia thrown in as well.  We're likely to get nothing from this folks -- except a __ing.

And just how much is this little adventure going to cost us?  In lives and treasure? 

168
Why is the left not going crazy over this? I thought we had no business interfering the other nations . Now we're back to 'wars are ok', right?
Posted by: blindside at March 18, 2011 12:17 PM (x7g7t)

Not only a red flag there, but the UN has never in its history been an asset or an ally to the US, and is most often the problem and not the solution.

And the talking heads/usual suspects/useful idiots........

169 Duck Soup, anyone?   http://tinyurl.com/4mqvngz

170 One has to admire the ... "flexibility" of the bloggers here. For weeks, they were demanding military action against Libya and calling Obama a pussy for not doing so. Okay, fair enough. But now that it looks like we are going to start bombing, the tone has changed to how reckless it is to launch a third war against a Muslim country. All I ask for is a little consistency.

171

168 Heh, Nation of Islam sounds a lot like Black Liberation Christianity.

Posted by: unknown jane at March 18, 2011 12:27 PM (5/yRG)

Yeah ... they're about the same.  Warmed over race-based marxism.  In this way the Nation of Islam is very much in line with general islam.  Black liberation theology is just the "Christianized" version of political islam.

This all makes sense.  Rev Wright was a member of the Nation of islam before he became an America-hating, Western-hating black liberation scumbag.  He drifted away from formal islam just as Barky did, but ended up in the same place ... with a Christianized version of mohammed's belligerent insanity - to scoot it in under the West's nose ... as if that was even necessary.

172 63 Nice to see Obumbles and the U.N. doing what Palin suggested, almost a month ago.

And CNN is going to remind us how this course of action is so idiotic it should not even be mentioned on air, in 3..2..1..

173 We are doings this because the entire world expects us to save democratic protesters from a mad tyrant. It is our duty to support global democracy and human rights. ""We never forget" is something wannabe enemies should factor into their decision making process. But I haven't heard Obama make that (or any) case" Are you fucking high? do you expect the president to go on television and say. "We're instituting this no fly zone because bitches should know better than to fuck with us. Sometimes you gotta flex your nuts, my fellow americans, and this is that time"

174 Posted by: RJ at March 18, 2011 12:40 PM (qDPnZ)

You do realize more than one person posts here, right? We don't have a collective mind and have disagreements from time to time (while sharing a general outlook).

I think it speaks well for Ace that he's gathered a group of people who aren't in lockstep and gives us room to express that.

If you want party line consistency from every writer, this isn't the place for you.

175 Nation of Islam is a mix of marxism, Islamic heresy, and angry, racist Black Nationalism. They just inverted old white racism -- so now black is a sign of purity and white is a sign of evil and soullessness. Also, about 95% of Nation of Islam adherents are felons since their primary recruiting centers are American prisons.

Their support of Islamic radicals is a bit funny since they themselves are a heretical sect that would be put to death in any Islamic country.

Actually the Nation of Islam is on the decline as Islam spreads in America. As more and more arab muslims immigrate to America they are running into the Nation of Islam and they don't like it one bit. Hard-core muslims take that bit about Muhammad being the final prophet very seriously. So when FakerKhan and gang say, yeah, there was another prophet born in 20th century America called Elijah Muhammad -- the Sunnis and Shiites start getting that itchy feeling in their stabbing hand.

Long term Nation of Islam won't grow past its tiny niche. Even now many of its adherents and potential recruits turn to "true" Islam for a more authentic experience.

Then again, a little heresy hasn't gotten in the way of the Mormons.  ;-)

176

1. The UN charter specificaly prohibits the UN from intervening in the INTERNAL affairs of Member Nations.... Libya IS a Member Nation, and this IS an Internal Affair.  UN is once more ignoring its own rules...

2. ANY American intervention in Libya is too late... we had a chance with a Carrier sitting off the Coast... and dithered until Quadaffi was able to reassert control over his armed forces.... this rebellion is done UNLESS actual Ground troops invade....

3. Yes, we should shoot Qadaffi... we should neutralize him with extreme prejudice... HOWEVER... the cupboard is bare... we could EASILY have put a couple of squadrons of F-22s in Sicily, and done a no fly zone EARLY... but we don't have enough F-22s (or tankers).... we would have to pull them off of Homeland Defense now... (thanks Obama...)...

177

For weeks, they were demanding military action against Libya and calling Obama a pussy for not doing so.

Most of us "called Obama a pussy" for not leading when leadership was needed, and early enough to make a difference.

...the tone has changed to how reckless it is to launch a third war against a Muslim country.

More accurately, how ironic it is that Obama is being rolled by events into a last-ditch military intervention, instead of using his oratorical superpowers to avoid it.

178 180 No, if we had done something two weeks ago then it could be argued that we were supporting democracy or defending people from their despot.   If we had done something earlier it could be argued it was to get rid of a supporter of terrorism and with the blood of Americans on his hands. Now it's about European self interest (oil, refugees) and the self interest of our betters: Ducky has been opening his mouth about political contributions, both here and in the EU...oh, that will not do Ducky, not at all. 

179

All I ask for is a little consistency.

Then why don't you ask the President, and not us?

180 I don't expect consistency from the President. He's an empty suit. I expect better from our side. All of these concerns about a war against Libya are perfectly legitimate. But there wasn't much discussion of them until Obama decided to support military action. The talking points just did a 180. It seems sorta crass.

181

All I ask for is a little consistency.

Then why don't you ask the President, and not us?

Posted by: HH at March 18, 2011 01:05 PM (6oDXl)

Obama has been exceedingly consistent.  Anything that is stupid or hurts America is exactly what he does.

182 187 I don't expect consistency from the President. He's an empty suit. I expect better from our side.

All of these concerns about a war against Libya are perfectly legitimate. But there wasn't much discussion of them until Obama decided to support military action. The talking points just did a 180. It seems sorta crass.

Posted by: RJ at March 18, 2011 01:09 PM (qDPnZ)

Hmmm... did you read earlier threads?  I think I've been pretty consistant, and have been one of the dissenting views...

We had an opportunity to intervene, which is now gone IMO.  In the first few days of the rebellion, Q's army was in disarray, and did not know who they were going to follow... which is why the Rebels did well.  BUT, when neither America nor the rest of the West intervened, the backed who they saw as the 'Strong Horse'.... and remained loyal to Q...

As no unorganized military force ever really outnumbers an organized force... once the Qs military got its act together, this was done.  The time to intervene was when the Miltary was making up its mind WHO to FOLLOW...

Now, any American intervention gives Islamists, and Q, the ability to make the Great Satan the outside threat which he can then use to weld the remnants of his power base together.

183

All of these concerns about a war against Libya are perfectly legitimate. But there wasn't much discussion of them until Obama decided to support military action

Yes, there were discussions. But we are now argueing that it is pretty much too late, as Mallamutt so eloquently posts above.

Going to rescue the Alamo on March 7, 1836, isn't a good choice.

184

Big question...

Does the Q now have a come to Jesus Mohamed moment??? Since he won't get support from the West any longer, will he now go get support from Iran and the Jihadists?

185

This isn't going to be just cruise missiles or bombs. I have pretty good reason to believe that we will see American boots on the ground unless Kadaffy breaks this insurrection soon.

186

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 18, 2011 01:26 PM (JxMoP)

Sorry, I don't buy that. No reason in hell for us to put troops on the ground over there.

Why would we?

187 I supported intervention in Libya... before.  But now that we've waited to the point where the rebels have all but been defeated, what's the point, really?  Why intervene only after we could have made a difference?

Jugears dithered to long, and Quadaffy has already won through his inaction.  At this point, we're just throwing a penalty flag and asking Daffy to walk the ball back ten yards.  He's still on first down.

188 I've been all for helping the rebels.  For revenge on Quaddafi, for goodwill and the chance to swing the successor government away from the Muslim Brotherhood and towards someone acceptable to us, and yes, on general pro-freedom principles.

The danger now is that Obama has let the best moment pass us by, and is fighting only half-heartedly and for reasons of political positioning.  I still think, in principle, opening up a front in a Muslim nation is worth it to be rid of a foe like Quaddafi and to avoid implicitly endorsing him.  I just hope we go about it smartly and decisively, which is to say I'm likely to be disappointed.

189

Blame it on Rio.

--------------------

Great youthful Demi Moore! Yum! Yum! Plus Brian Brown is freaking funny.

Brian Brown (after sleeping with best friends 19 year old daughter): He's my best friend. I'll have to lie.

190

Why would we?

I ask myself the same question. Just don't be surprised when it happens.

Ask yourself why Jugears went from (a) "We don't support a no-fly zone" to (b) "A no-fly zone is not tough enough." I wonder if his dithering was a bumbling and inept effort to stretch this out long enough to get assets in place.

As I said previously, my biggest fear is the mission creep that is inevitable when a Democrat is in the White House. It will start as one thing and morph into another.

And I do not support any involvement in Libya other than doing justice to Kadaffy.

191

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 18, 2011 01:42 PM (JxMoP)

I just hope you are wrong.  At least on this.

192 Morons were calling for Coach Obama to run off tackle on 2nd and one and he calls two bomb plays for incompletions and now it's 4th down. Now Obama calls for a run off tackle and of course the morons are screaming WTF except for RJ who just wants a little consistency from the moron's play calling.

193 It seems there are an awful lot of unanswered basic questions. For a guy who complained we recklessly went into Iraq (after 6 months or more of debate and preparation) he seems to be running off pretty quickly into a French led, UN sponsored African adventure. I'm not sure much good can come from that combination. I am starting to wonder if that isn't the point... that this is going to be used as some sort of comparison to say "hey this is how it is supposed to be done". after all, liberals are much smarter than us morons... of course, that assumes that it works out

194 QUAGMIRE Eleventy!!!

195 I wonder if his dithering was a bumbling and inept effort to stretch this out long enough to get assets in place.

He's not that clever.

196 We surrender!

197 Is HANOI JANE going to intervine will MARTIN SHEEN and his wacko freinds march around with the pieholes duct tapped shut with PEACE writen on it?

198

Great post, look at your blog every time there is a new harvest, thanks for sharing

199

So the attack on Libya was strictly humantarian not like Bush,  who did it for other reasons,

Now sticking with this humanitarian theme when does the U.S. strike Iran, North Korea and China? I guess parts of Africa need to be added here as well.

Wake up people!