January 23, 2011

State of Fear, 2011 [Andy]
— Open Blogger

This post should bridge the Sunday book thread and the forthcoming NFL chat/pointy-elbowed cheerleader pic bashing thread quite nicely. On the one hand, it touches on State of Fear, Michael Crichton's 2004 novel that continues to be a remarkably accurate assessment of the politicized science behind the catastrophic anthropogenic global warming (AGW) hoax. And on the other, well ... carbon footprint from all that heavy breathing or something.

The "big reveal" in State of Fear was that the environmental movement was basically the new home for Western communists after the fall of the Soviet Union and its satellites. There was a remarkable piece in the Vancouver Sun a couple of weeks ago entitled Confessions of a Greenpeace founder. It was written by Patrick Moore, who was indeed a founder of Greenpeace and has a new book out called Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout: The Making of a Sensible Environmentalist. Here's the money quote from the article, but you really should read the whole thing:

The collapse of world communism and the fall of the Berlin Wall during the 1980s added to the trend toward extremism. The Cold War was over and the peace movement was largely disbanded. The peace movement had been mainly Western-based and anti-American in its leanings. Many of its members moved into the environmental movement, bringing with them their neo-Marxist, far-left agendas. To a considerable extent the environmental movement was hijacked by political and social activists who learned to use green language to cloak agendas that had more to do with anti-capitalism and anti-globalization than with science or ecology. I remember visiting our Toronto office in 1985 and being surprised at how many of the new recruits were sporting army fatigues and red berets in support of the Sandinistas.

What?! Why, that sounds like something straight out of a novel!
When you think about it, there's no natural reason for real environmental stewardship to have a political angle (apart from the fact that it seems like everything is politicized these days). I've spent a lot of time in the great outdoors as a hunter, fisherman and camper, and I consider myself to be as environmentally conscious as anyone. But for some reason, the left accuses me of Destroying the Planet™ with my evil, carbon dioxide-belching SUV. And the snow thrower and chainsaw? Fuhgeddaboutit!

Environmentalism isn't about the environment. It's about control. Control of what you drive, what you eat, what kind of lightbulbs you use ... control of your life. Achieving this level of control does have a political angle, and the left owns it lock, stock and barrel.

You really don't need to go much further to validate this than taking a gander at the China fetish held by people like Tom Friedman and the esteemed NASA-funded junk-climatologist James Hansen:

November's election made it quite clear that the people of the United States do not want to radically change our society in the name of global warming. Pretty much every close House race went to the Republicans, while the Democrats won all the Senate squeakers. The difference? The House on June 26, 2009, passed a bill limiting carbon-dioxide emissions and getting into just about every aspect of our lives. The Senate did nothing of the sort.

The nation's most prominent publicly funded climatologist is officially angry about this, blaming democracy and citing the Chinese government as the "best hope" to save the world from global warming. He also wants an economic boycott of the U.S. sufficient to bend us to China's will.

It's tempting to say that Hansen has jumped the shark, but this is the same James Hansen who compared coal plants to the Nazi death camp at Auschwitz during World War II and he has called for Nuremberg-style trials for scientists who disagree with him about the causes and possible consequences of climate change.

Like Glenn Reynolds says, I'll believe there's a crisis when the people who tell me there is one start acting like it. But as long as the Al Gores and Tom Friedmans of the world continue to fly around in private jets and live in huge mansions ... and alleged climate scientists like Michael Mann stubbornly refuse to hand over their tea leaves and chicken entrails for inspection by experts, I'll keep driving my SUV, thank you very much.

Now back to Crichton. He was no conservative; his politics were left-of-center, but not out in moonbat territory by any means. However, on science-related topics, he was fantastic. There are several videos at his official site (linked above) that are a must-watch if you're interested in AGW or other lefty enviro-nuttiness. This one titled Environmentalism as a Religion is one of my favorites:

And here he is on DDT:

Spot on! I sure wish Crichton had lived to see ClimateGate.

(h/t JackStraw)

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1 I had always thought of the eco-tard movement starting up after the Vietnam war ended. All those anti-war protesters who were funded by the communists had nowhere to go so they moved into the green movement.

Ass for Hansen and the AGW fraud I posted a link a few days ago to an article discussing the Dem attempts in VA to block and investigation into that fraud by the State Attorney General. LOL, they are squirming hard now.

Posted by: Vic at January 23, 2011 08:28 AM (M9Ie6)

2 Completely off-topic, but looky here: Do all that you can to run them out of business and then step in and save the industry.

Posted by: jmflynny at January 23, 2011 08:33 AM (piMMO)

3 It's a cliche, but nonetheless true. 

"When people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing -- they believe in anything."

G.K. Chesterton

Posted by: pep at January 23, 2011 08:33 AM (P18+/)

4

kind of on topic but the only state of fear is wisconsin because its almost time for...........

DA BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 08:35 AM (pYurd)

5 Just to be clear, I'm not saying that Chestertons comment is  true of everyone.   But there is a subset of the population that can't seem to find satisfaction in living their own lives.  They have to run those of other people or they're miserable.  It really does come down to the need to control. 

Posted by: pep at January 23, 2011 08:35 AM (P18+/)

6 1  vic, do you still have the link?  my bing-fu is weak before my first cup of coffee

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 08:36 AM (pYurd)

7 Another greenie myth is that the sceptics are well funded by the energy industry, when in reality so-called climate scientists have to toe the greenie line to get funding.

Posted by: real joe at January 23, 2011 08:37 AM (w7Lv+)

8 You can't believe how many of these european terrorists are now part of the Green movement. Then again, our own domestic terrorists are Democrats.

Posted by: moi at January 23, 2011 08:37 AM (Ez4Ql)

9 By Green movement I mean to say members of the Green Party.

Posted by: moi at January 23, 2011 08:38 AM (Ez4Ql)

10 It is sooooo clearly political and communist political at that. I can just imagine the lefties decades ago sitting around going, "How do we take their power away?" "I've got it, let's take their power away literally! We can start indoctrinating the preschoolers through PBS and the schools." "Now we have a plan, dude."

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 08:38 AM (A7E3U)

11 pep - hence neighborhood associations

Posted by: Jean at January 23, 2011 08:39 AM (m8Ev+)

12 We can start indoctrinating the preschoolers through PBS and the schools." "Now we have a plan, dude."

You have no idea how happy I was to see funding for public broadcasting on the proposed hit-list the other day.

Posted by: jmflynny at January 23, 2011 08:40 AM (piMMO)

13 As proof,  Van Jones.  Communist/Greenie

Posted by: Tami at January 23, 2011 08:42 AM (VuLos)

14 11 pep - hence neighborhood associations

Yeah, mine controls the color you can paint your mailbox post.  Just imagine the anarchy if people were free to choose something other than dark brown. 

Posted by: pep at January 23, 2011 08:42 AM (P18+/)

15

10  the new count on seseame street

a one, a two, a threeeeee

now we take two back because you have too many.........

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 08:43 AM (pYurd)

16

a one, a two, a threeeeee

now we take two back because you have too many.........


LMAO!!!

Posted by: jmflynny at January 23, 2011 08:44 AM (piMMO)

17 Socialists in the Green Movement?  I haven't seen any socialists.  Nope, no socialists here.

Posted by: Van Jones at January 23, 2011 08:44 AM (QgmBR)

18 >> vic, do you still have the link?  my bing-fu is weak before my first cup of coffee

Follow the link in the post about Michael Mann. Same story.

Posted by: Andy at January 23, 2011 08:44 AM (veZ9n)

19 vic, do you still have the link?  my bing-fu is weak before my first cup of coffee

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 12:36 PM (pYurd)

From the 1-20 headlines thread:

Could this be the next AGW fraud smoking gun?

The VA AG is investigating Michael Mann and VA Dems are trying to block him.


Posted by: Vic at January 23, 2011 08:44 AM (M9Ie6)

20 It is really not so cut and dried.. The vast majority of libtards truly believe we are destroying the environment.  They have been deluded into thinking this by the true hucksters looking for power/control/whatever.

Many moderates and skeptics see some evidence of global warming, yet do not feel convinced there is an "anthrpogenic" component to it.  There is ample "evidence" the seas are heating even if the surface temps have not seemed much warmer lately.

I guess what I'm getting at is that just because there are some batshit proponents of global warming who have turned it into a religion, does not mean there isn't some  (albeit small) factual basis for concern.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 23, 2011 08:45 AM (Do528)

21

The Forsaken by Tim Tzouliadis.  Warning:  this book will piss you off in the worst way.  During the Great Depression many Americans sought work in the Soviet Union.  One of the conditions was the revoking of American citizenship.  Once that happened, the workers were entered into the Gulag to be starved, beaten, and executed.

Ignored by the State Department and FDR who wanted to stay on the good side of Stalin, the Americans were abandoned to the Soviet fate.  Includes no good rat bastards like Pulitzer Prize winner New York Times writer Walter Duranty whose dose of lies in favor of Uncle Joe were unrelenting (how little things change) and sundry shits like Joseph Davies and Paul Robeson.

Some survived but most did not.  Should be required reading by idiot college students and every fellow travelling hack who ever said a good word about collectivist crap.

Posted by: libra at January 23, 2011 08:45 AM (kd8U8)

22 Oh yeah.. and GO BEARS!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 23, 2011 08:46 AM (Do528)

23

When I have a green movement I call the doctor.

Posted by: Ed Anger at January 23, 2011 08:47 AM (7+pP9)

24 Defunding PBS and NPR may not mean a lot budget wise but it will at a minimum keep me from funding communist broadcast productions. I especially disdain their indoctrinating my children. Fortunately, my older sons hated the feminazi teachers that wept over global warming and dead polar bears so much that it turned them off the green shit permanently. It wasn't hard to show them the rest of the scam.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 08:47 AM (A7E3U)

25 http://tinyurl.com/4vfluud i know this is off topic but should cause a state of fear.....chinese pianist at white house played an ANTI AMERICAN SONG...........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 23, 2011 08:47 AM (eOXTH)

26

Go Packers. Down with anything remotely related to Chicago.

Go Patriots. Down with anything remotely related to NY.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 08:48 AM (A7E3U)

27 Ya'll pick up a copy of True Believers. Not a perfect book, but  an eye opener. A commie is a green is a socialist is a progressive is a maoist.

Posted by: Artruen at January 23, 2011 08:49 AM (L+dBi)

28 What we need is a cool crypto-anarchist/jacobin movement that embraces Hayek, Rynd, Smiths invisible hand, and guns to attract the kids

Posted by: Jean at January 23, 2011 08:50 AM (m8Ev+)

29 NPR receives no federal funding, dagny.  I have told you that before and even provided links.

Only the member stations receive a small percentage of their funding from federal grants.  Nothing goes directly to NPR.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 23, 2011 08:50 AM (Do528)

30 The vast majority of libtards truly believe we are destroying the environment.  They have been deluded into thinking this by the true hucksters looking for power/control/whatever.

There comes a point when being deluded by a clever huckster segues into willful self-delusion, because it's easier than thinking for yourself and because you are arrogant enough to think you know best.  I have lots of lib friends who fall in to this category.   Basically good people, but with a streak of either laziness or contempt for others who prevent them from achieving their utopia, wherein they imagine they, and their fellow superior thinkers would run things. 

The worst part of this is that if their dream were to come true, they would be the first to be sacrificed (see Trotsky).  It would be nice to say "I told you so", but then it would be too late for you too. 

Posted by: pep at January 23, 2011 08:51 AM (P18+/)

31 I don't know what Crichton's politics were, but his novel "Airframe" struck as harshly critical of both unions and the media.

Posted by: Techie at January 23, 2011 08:51 AM (PAlxT)

32

totally ot and annoying to some

the little girl is up and just walked past the open door....she didn't say hi dad or anything like that

she said 'Da Bears'

sniff sniff, i'm a good dad

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 08:52 AM (pYurd)

33 "struck me as" /damned tiny phone keyboard.

Posted by: Techie at January 23, 2011 08:54 AM (PAlxT)

34 I heard on the news that it's been 70 years since da Bears beat the Pack in post season..

Here's hoping for a repeat!

You raised your girl right, navycopjoe!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 23, 2011 08:54 AM (Do528)

35

oh, speaking of npr, the guy i took to hawaii's npr for an interview the other day was terry waite

yeah, that terry waite

incredibly nice guy, good teeth for a brit

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 08:55 AM (pYurd)

36 >> Nothing goes directly to NPR.

Right. It goes to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. Which then sends it to NPR (an amount equal to about 2% of NPR's budget).

Nice little money laundering operation they have set up there.

Posted by: Andy at January 23, 2011 08:56 AM (veZ9n)

37 Only the member stations receive a small percentage of their funding from federal grants.  Nothing goes directly to NPR.

Semantics.  NPR gets a small fraction of their budget directly, but their programming is purchased by their member stations, who use federal $ to do so.  Removing them one step from the grant doesn't make NPR independent of government money. 

The simplest way to test your claim is to answer the question: if NPR gets no federal $, then you shouldn't mind a law prohibiting their member stations from buying your programming with federal $.  How about it?  It's a distinction without a difference.



Posted by: pep at January 23, 2011 08:56 AM (P18+/)

38

34  she's got her hester jersey on and she'll be grilling the italian sausage for the game.  she even has some root beer standing by

all she needs is the war paint

my wife thinks we're nuts but she's from an SEC area and i've seen her during tenn games so she can hush

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 08:59 AM (pYurd)

39 NPR says it's "imperative" that the organization continues to receive federal funding, which is passing strange since NPR also claims it gets no more than 3 percent of its total budget from taxpayers. But Rep. Doug Lanborn, a Colorado Republican, says that number is suspect because NPR's financing structures is so opaque and complex. Mark Browning of the American Thinker, a conservative online publication, used publicly available information to estimate that NPR's $166 million budget is actually made up of more than 25 percent of taxpayer dollars and that its member stations across the country haul in another 40 percent of public funds. NPR says those numbers are "inaccurate."

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 23, 2011 08:59 AM (eOXTH)

40 from the "opinion" nov 22, 2010 by john fund

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 23, 2011 09:01 AM (eOXTH)

41

Still, cutting off federal money just to NPR is a complicated task. There isn't any congressional appropriation that says "Funds for NPR." Instead, federal money goes to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which received $420 million from the government in 2010. About $90 million of that went to public radio. The corporation gave part of that $90 million to NPR, and part of it to local public radio stations, which turned around and used the money to buy NPR programming. NPR has also gotten money from the National Endowment for the Arts, as well as the Departments of Education and Commerce.

Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://tiny.cc/d4kx5e 

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 09:01 AM (A7E3U)

42

39  if they get any tax money, don't they have to disclose the amount they receive by law?

hmmm, i will use my bing-fu (after my second cup of coffee of course)

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 09:02 AM (pYurd)

43

Fudge Packers v Big Furry Bears

No matter how you slice that pickle, Boys Town Wins!

 

Posted by: garrett at January 23, 2011 09:02 AM (tXjFA)

44

42  or i can go to dagny's link at 41

even though dagny is a damn hater...see the heresy in post 26

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 09:04 AM (pYurd)

45

Go Packers. Down with anything remotely related to Chicago.

Go Patriots Steelers. Down with anything remotely related to NY.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 12:48 PM (A7E3U) 

FIFY....even though I'm rooting for the Jets  ;o)


Posted by: Tami at January 23, 2011 09:06 AM (VuLos)

46 so if they need to continue to receive it.....how can they not be receiving it now? and apparently... their book keeping is so convoluted that no one can tell how much npr actually gets from the federal subsidies that cpb receives

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 23, 2011 09:06 AM (eOXTH)

47

29 NPR receives no federal funding, dagny.  I have told you that before and even provided links.

LOL

CPB funds NPR via three revenue streams. First, CPB gives “occasional grants” to NPR, which totaled $8,015,374 since the beginning of 2009 to date ($4 million a year).

Second, Congress appropriated a special three-year, $78 million funds specifically for NPR. This funding stream gave NPR $26 million per year in 2007, 2008 and 2009.

Third, NPR member stations receive funds from a $90 million per year congressionally mandated effort to support public radio stations in the U.S. The specific percent of the $90 million that goes to NPR member stations is unclear.

http://tiny.cc/mp8jj

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 09:07 AM (A7E3U)

48

Not a heretic. I'm a very frustrated Redskins fan. You should consider my oppressed and victimized.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 09:10 AM (A7E3U)

49 Is it heretical to say screw global warming OR cooling?  Makes no difference whether the planet's getting hotter or colder--logic indicates you adapt to the PARTICULAR--and on with life.

 So screw these asswipes with a flaming pineapple--sideways.  They're welcome to go to the front of the room for their tantrum, so all the adults can point fingers and laugh at them.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 23, 2011 09:11 AM (ud5dN)

50 My poor brother in law has been a Jets fan since the 80s and all through the era when they were just a girls' team. I should root for them out of respect for his loyalty. I just am not a fan of NY the city although NE isn't much of an improvement.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 09:12 AM (A7E3U)

51 The Forsaken should have been posted on the book thread.  But what the hell...read it anyhow.

Posted by: libra at January 23, 2011 09:12 AM (kd8U8)

52 >>It is sooooo clearly political and communist political at that. I can just imagine the lefties decades ago sitting around going, "How do we take their power away?" "I've got it, let's take their power away literally! We can start indoctrinating the preschoolers through PBS and the schools." "Now we have a plan, dude." You don't have to imagine. You can just listen. http://tinyurl.com/4cuzebn That interview was done in 1985. If you can listen to what Bezmenov had to say then and not see how it has played out in this country over the last few decades and not be alarmed then you aren't paying attention. If you're still not convinced then take a hard look at what Gorbachev has been up to since the fall of the Soviet Union. Why the fuck would a communist dictator decide the perfect next step for him would be the environmental movement? Control. http://tinyurl.com/bdgn5u

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2011 09:14 AM (TMB3S)

53 If NPR doesnt need nor recieve Federal funds - then cutting those lines should be painless. Thank you for the political cover.

Posted by: Jean at January 23, 2011 09:15 AM (m8Ev+)

54 I'd certainly be happy to provide more links to NPR's federal funding---there are certainly plenty out there.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 09:15 AM (A7E3U)

55 yes, dagny....i found a bunch in a second!!!! and i agree with jean, if they don't get funding then...they won't be hurt.....no harm no foul eh?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 23, 2011 09:17 AM (eOXTH)

56 More than that, if the Russians/Saudis/et al aren't funding the US Greenie movement to keep our energy production offline, I'll eat my hat.

Posted by: nickless at January 23, 2011 09:18 AM (MMC8r)

57 The racist child plays the race because she is much too retarded to form a real argument in the video where she calls Chrichton prejudiced. The empty headed little ho even ceded to his point that environmentalism is a religion.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 09:18 AM (SJ6/3)

58

The Great Global Warming Swindle is a must-see.

Patrick Moore made those same points in the movie. The fucked up part about the AGW scam is that Margaret Thatcher played an inadvertant part in starting it with her response to the coal strikes.

Posted by: beedubya at January 23, 2011 09:19 AM (AnTyA)

59

It's quite comical that NPR's website says that it doesn't get any direct federal funding and all the libs are repeating that as they are getting no federal funding at all. This from a station name'd National Public Radio.

Besides my next door neighbor is the head audio engineer for NPR. We talked about this at length.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 09:19 AM (A7E3U)

60 The peace movement was funded by the Ruskies. They used lefty traitors against us.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 09:20 AM (SJ6/3)

61 “Gentlemen, comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about Glasnost and Perestroika and democracy in the coming years. They are primarily for outward consumption. There will be no significant internal changes in the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep.” -Mikhail Gorbachev, speech to the Soviet Politburo, November 1987

And what is Gorby doing these days?  Why, working on a variety of UN-financed environmental committees and causes like the Green Cross, Cap-and-Trade, and the International Nuclear Safety Foundation, from his office at the Presidio in San Francisco.  We have indeed "fallen asleep."

Posted by: Bust of Churchill at January 23, 2011 09:20 AM (yARWD)

62 58 Thanks for the link. Google video used to be so good before they started knocking down all the documentaries.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 09:22 AM (SJ6/3)

63 Oh and btw, the last part of that interview with Crichton is also pretty interesting. Second hand smoke scare? Fake. http://tinyurl.com/62sk48c Everything lefties do is about one thing, control. It's way past time to tell them to go fuck themselves.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2011 09:22 AM (TMB3S)

64 I'm gonna kill that Michael Crichton dude. No fucking Nuremberg trial nonsence either. He's worse than a coal plant. Worse than Boooosh.

Posted by: Typical Duplicious DemocRAT at January 23, 2011 09:22 AM (lItcj)

65 AGW fanatics never discuss a process called sublimation. Sublimation can erode a glacier even though the temperature never gets above zero degrees C.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2011 09:23 AM (Wweuu)

66 Crichton had some awesome insight into the intolerant left and their control urges, but then it's obvious on its' face by their actions.

Posted by: Frank G at January 23, 2011 09:23 AM (4X0aT)

67 When the CP went belly up, they changed the logo from a hammer and sickle to an oak tree and announced they were environmentalists. They never hid their creepy agenda.

Posted by: moi at January 23, 2011 09:24 AM (Ez4Ql)

68

The seas are warming! No wait, the seas are cooling because the ice bergs are melting! No wait, the air is cooling. But it's warming now. It's our fault! It is, it is! OMG. Communism is our only hope because.................why would communism help the environment exactly? The climate change debacle is only to bring down the west to encourage one world govt and make all peoples of the earth equally poor. Except those of course in control. Tyranny is at the root of the whole thing.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 09:24 AM (A7E3U)

69 On a related score Fox just had two GM executives on there pushing electric cars and the Volt.  Oh yes, it has a 100 mile range and you can charge it in 4 hours (if you have a dedicated charging station. When asked what they could tell consumers to make them more willing to buy one the response was "it only costs $3 to charge it so that is a cheap 100 miles driven".

Never mind that their response to battery costs was "eventually it will come down". If I am not mistaken the batteries have to be replaced every 5 years and they cost $7500.  Of course they didn't factor that in.

I recall an article in the Columbia paper a few years ago concerning the Toyota Prius hybrid. The CEO of Toyota admitted that even with all the government subsidies it would take $5/gal gas to break even.

In addition, the percentage of "greens" in the country is extremely small. The people who push the AGW fraud fall into three categories

1) True believers (very small number)
2) Anarchists who wish to destroy all government
3) Crooks like the UN, Hansen, and Gore who see it as a profit item to steal from the taxpayers in the Western world.
4) Communists who are in government and see it as a tool to advance communism (largest group)

And no there is no shred of truth in the AGW scam at all.

Posted by: Vic at January 23, 2011 09:24 AM (M9Ie6)

70 libra at 21 - remember reading as a young teenager a book which was subtitled "An American in the Gulag" or "An American in Stalin's Gulag" about an American who spent many years in labor camps. It was an incredibly gripping story about the day to day existence. Can't remember the title offhand.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 23, 2011 09:25 AM (mV+es)

71 State of Absolute Chaos

Posted by: Kratos Worshipper at January 23, 2011 09:25 AM (lItcj)

72 Crichton was right. Pseudo-science has a whole pantheon of religions. Glowbull warming, evolution, as well as the atheist(anti-theist literally if you go back to the Greek) faith.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 09:25 AM (SJ6/3)

73 "...from his office at the Presidio in San Francisco." Oh, fucking shoot me now! I use to work at the Presidio when it was still an army base. I knew that went it was turned over to civilians they would turn it into crap. They rent out all this space to leftards and commies. I wonder how many rentals are to conservatives?

Posted by: moi at January 23, 2011 09:26 AM (Ez4Ql)

74

 

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 09:27 AM (A7E3U)

75 chinese pianist at white house played an ANTI AMERICAN SONG........... Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 23, 2011 12:47 PM

Here's a little ditty Osama Obama should have had played for Doctor Hu and his America-hating buddyroos:


http://bit.ly/XZJdD

Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 23, 2011 09:28 AM (Ulu3i)

76 70 libra at 21 - remember reading as a young teenager a book which was subtitled "An American in the Gulag" or "An American in Stalin's Gulag" about an American who spent many years in labor camps. It was an incredibly gripping story about the day to day existence. Can't remember the title offhand.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 23, 2011 01:25 PM (mV+es)

Our socialist labor camps desire to keep their victims alive and healthy to prolong their agony. I labor in one.  It's haliariously called a 'college'.

Posted by: torabora at January 23, 2011 09:30 AM (lItcj)

77 Hmmmm....

What does an environmental thread at AoSHQ need?

Football, of course.

Also Sarah Palin, Gabby Giffords and NPR!

Posted by: MrScribbler© at January 23, 2011 09:30 AM (Ulu3i)

78 And just googled it. The author was Alexander Dolgun, the book was "Alexander Dolgun's Story: An American in the Gulag."  According to wiki his experiaences were mentioned in the Gulag Archipelego also.

Posted by: Have Blue at January 23, 2011 09:30 AM (mV+es)

79 "NPR receives no federal funding, dagny.  I have told you that before and even provided links. Only the member stations receive a small percentage of their funding from federal grants.  Nothing goes directly to NPR."
-- Chi-Town Jerry

Next you'll tell me that money isn't fungible, right?

Seriously, what an absolute load of horseshit. I suppose no union dues actually go to mobsters either. After all, there's an intermediary. WTF ever.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at January 23, 2011 09:30 AM (0LABp)

80

a one, a two, a threeeeee

now we take two back because you have too many.........

Posted by: jmflynny at January 23, 2011 12:44 PM (piMMO)


You laugh... I remember an episode of Blue's Clues where Steve, Mr. Salt and Mrs. Pepper were counting apples.  Mr. Salt had 3 and Mrs. Pepper had 5.  The next thing I hear from the television is Mr. Salt saying "That's not fair, she has more" and the solution... to take one away from Mrs. Pepper and give it to Mr. Salt.


I very nearly threw something at the television.  Thank G-d the kids grew out of that phase shortly thereafter.

Posted by: Lone Marauder at January 23, 2011 09:32 AM (po5rq)

81 Here's a segue:

In the interest of helping the environment, Green Bay must win.  Imagine the imperial entourage the White House will fly to Dallas if the Bears are in the Super Bowl.  You just fucking know the Zeroes will take separate jets, and then of course there's that claque of reporters eager to scoop each other on the next puff piece about "Chicago roots."

Sorry Bears fans, but for just this week: Fuck the Bears.

Posted by: logprof at January 23, 2011 09:34 AM (BP6Z1)

82

Vic, My libtard niece-in-law is the lawyer for a company which is putting in service stations in Norway and Israel for electric cars. Apparently the biggest problem is the batteries are made with a chemical which is only found in China.

Interesting. 

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 09:36 AM (A7E3U)

83 Or that the chemical is made of some deposits only made in China--to be more precise.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 09:37 AM (A7E3U)

84 only made in China

Isn't everything these days?

Posted by: Lone Marauder at January 23, 2011 09:39 AM (po5rq)

85 The prius uses nickel batteries. The nickel mine in Canada has a dead zone around it which can be seen from space.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 09:39 AM (SJ6/3)

86 >>Apparently the biggest problem is the batteries are made with a chemical which is only found in China. They are refered to as rare earth elements and yes, China has the world's largest supply and has been squeezing the west for some time now. http://tinyurl.com/5slurq7

Posted by: JackStraw at January 23, 2011 09:40 AM (TMB3S)

87

Chi-town Jerry likes to show up, make a gross false generalization, and then disappear. Earlier this week he said that a majority of people in the US "despise" Palin.

 

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 09:40 AM (A7E3U)

88 Crichton was right. Pseudo-science has a whole pantheon of religions. Glowbull warming, evolution, as well as the atheist(anti-theist literally if you go back to the Greek) faith. Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 01:25 PM (SJ6/3) AGW is a hoax. Evolution, OTOH, is a well-grounded, powerful, successful explanation of the changes that have been and are now happening to life on Earth. I vote we voluntarily keep our focus on the AGW hoax. Agreed, FJ?

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2011 09:40 AM (Wweuu)

89 As proof,  Van Jones.  Communist/Greenie

Posted by: Tami at January 23, 2011 12:42 PM (VuLos)

That cocksucker was the final straw on not taking any of those green fucks seriously.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 23, 2011 09:41 AM (olKiY)

90 I think it might be more dangerous to rely in rare earth elements only found in China than oil deposits found, oh, all over the world? Just sayin'

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 09:41 AM (A7E3U)

91

Posted by: Nom de Blog at January 23, 2011 01:30 PM (0LABp)

Jerry can't help it. He's from Chicago

Posted by: beedubya at January 23, 2011 09:42 AM (AnTyA)

92

Chi-town Jerry likes to show up, make a gross false generalization, and then disappear. Earlier this week he said that a majority of people in the US "despise" Palin.

 

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 01:40 PM (A7E3U)

You've noticed that too?  I was wondering if he was the world's most deceptive troll.

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 23, 2011 09:43 AM (olKiY)

93 89 Evolution is also pseudo science.  The history of the creation myth for the atheist religion is made up of fraud and counterfeits.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 09:43 AM (SJ6/3)

94 It's tough when someone discredits your religion hunh?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 09:45 AM (SJ6/3)

95 Apparently the biggest problem is the batteries are made with a chemical which is only found in China.

That is probably the LiH battery. If I am not mistaken the Volt, which had originally been designed for a large Li battery, uses a standard (although large) Pb-Acid battery.

That cuts down on the range but it significantly lessens the price. 

BTW, there are significant deposits of that in CA but the "greens" will not allow them to mine it. Imagine that.

Posted by: Vic at January 23, 2011 09:45 AM (M9Ie6)

96 I think the radical greenies are a menace, but more moderate ones are perhaps more dangerous. Glenn Reynolds for example has called using petroleum for energy production "filthy". He has pushed curly fries light bulbs. Folks like him are the moderates the radicals need to push the radical agenda. He and others like him should think before they speak.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2011 09:46 AM (Wweuu)

97 48 Reuters: Obama halo pic it's old, but maybe you haven't seen this one of many halo pics Posted by: Sunday Soothsayer at January 23, 2011 09:50 AM (/AUF7) I have some Obama a-hole pics, if anyone is interested. Like this one, for example: pouty, nasty looking, none too clean... Oh, wait... That's Michelle!

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2011 09:48 AM (tJjm/)

98 BTW, there are significant deposits of that in CA but the "greens" will not allow them to mine it. Imagine that.

Posted by: Vic at January 23, 2011 01:45 PM (M9Ie6)

It will be just our luck that the cure for cancer lies under a river filled with delta smelts in CA.

Posted by: Tami at January 23, 2011 09:50 AM (VuLos)

99 It's tough when someone discredits your religion hunh? Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 01:45 PM (SJ6/3) When that happens you'll be the first to know. I think you are very confused about Evolution Theory. I urge you to read up on it. Talk to scientists. Talk to paleontologists, biologists, etc. and learn the true Theory. Again, I ask that we keep off this matter on this thread. To show good faith I will not respond to any further claims that Evolution is a pseudo-religion.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2011 09:50 AM (Wweuu)

100 eman,

Producing petroleum is literally filthy. Granted it's much cleaner than it used to be, but it's still a messy product that tends to stick to stuff.

And if I'm not mistaken Instapundit has mocked the laws passed by Congress w/rt light bulbs.

So I'm not seeing your beef.

Posted by: Nom de Blog at January 23, 2011 09:52 AM (0LABp)

101 eman, next time, ignore the attempt to change the subject.

They're almost as bad as the footballers changing the subject. What was this thread about?

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at January 23, 2011 09:53 AM (bxiXv)

102 @100: I think the real psedo-religion is Gobal Warming.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2011 09:53 AM (tJjm/)

103

Something for everyone to consider: evolution and intelligent design are not mutually exclusive.

nuf said

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 09:54 AM (A7E3U)

104 May I take this opportunity to emphasize; there is no cannibalism in NPR. Absolutely none. And when I say none, I mean there is a certain amount - more than I would care to admit.

Jenkins?! NO!!

Posted by: Chi-Town Zombie Grahm Chapman at January 23, 2011 09:56 AM (obH33)

105 The thing about public broadcasting is the symbolism. When it's time to cut some big budget item, it's harder to do when Congress won't even cut the fat of CPB.

Posted by: AmishDude at January 23, 2011 09:57 AM (BvBKY)

106

It's funny that Crighton was left of center. I read every single book he wrote and didn't pick up any lefty stuff. Maybe he was one of the few that could keep his politics out of his work.

btw, I watched "you've got mail" accidentally last night. It was a dumb movie but it's still a shame Hanks came out as a tool.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 09:57 AM (A7E3U)

107 @104: agreed. Who's to say God didn't design the physics of the universe to lead to evolution? Surely an Almighty Being could.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2011 09:57 AM (tJjm/)

108 OT:  File this under what could possibly go wrong....

From the cage liner, NYT....

http://tinyurl.com/458yaqq

The Obama administration has become so concerned about the slowing pace of new drugs coming out of the pharmaceutical industry that officials have decided to start a billion-dollar government drug development center to help create medicines.

The new effort comes as many large drug makers, unable to find enough new drugs, are paring back research. Promising discoveries in illnesses like depression and ParkinsonÂ’s that once would have led to clinical trials are instead going unexplored because companies have neither the will nor the resources to undertake the effort.

Posted by: Tami at January 23, 2011 09:58 AM (VuLos)

109 Has there been any follow-up on Coons the Dapper Fapper and his ties (via in-laws) to Big Green?

Posted by: logprof at January 23, 2011 09:58 AM (BP6Z1)

110 So I guess this means I don't have to apologize to all those assholes I called watermelons.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at January 23, 2011 10:02 AM (490S/)

111

Corporate sponsors are interested in exposure to the well-educated, relatively affluent NPR audience, both on-air and online, which can be difficult to reach through other media.

NPR has this statement on their finance page.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 10:02 AM (A7E3U)

112 I've been looking at Patrick Moore's Greenspirit materials for about ten years, I think.

Posted by: Ken at January 23, 2011 10:02 AM (DNoNR)

113

Posted by: Tami at January 23, 2011 01:58 PM (VuLos)

This is the leftwing playbook to a tee.  They drive out the private sector through regulation, and then declare the lack of an industry as proof that we need a government run program.  This is health care in a decade.  Or less.

Posted by: Alex at January 23, 2011 10:03 AM (J2ejK)

114

Funny you should post this, as the local, leftist puppy training device newspaper published a letter to the Editor from two local greenies still screeching that "the world is warming and we're all gonna die!"

It was heartening that the online comments mostly told them to go fuck themselves in the nicest way possible.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 23, 2011 10:03 AM (b6qrg)

115 109 Yeah,saw this on Fox News.Hilarity will ensue.(by hilarity I mean possible disaster and garanteed money wasting)

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2011 10:04 AM (j/0qN)

116

sorry, gotta do it again

a:  mom, mom!!!  we're out of brauts!!

t:  okay, and?

a:  we have to go to the store!!! the game starts soon

t:  no, i'm not getting dressed to go buy brauts

a: ...blank stare.....  dad, dad!!!  we're out of brauts!!!

me:  shit, we gotta go to the store!!!  come on honey!!!

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 10:05 AM (pYurd)

117 because companies have neither the will nor the resources to undertake the effort.

What?  You mean demonizing and hindering a society's producers at every turn really isn't such a great idea?  The hell you say.

Posted by: blue star at January 23, 2011 10:05 AM (woyqb)

118 Producing petroleum is literally filthy. Granted it's much cleaner than it used to be, but it's still a messy product that tends to stick to stuff. And if I'm not mistaken Instapundit has mocked the laws passed by Congress w/rt light bulbs. So I'm not seeing your beef. Posted by: Nom de Blog at January 23, 2011 01:52 PM (0LABp) True, it is filthy, but so much so that it should figure into switching to "green energy". As for the light bulbs, I may be wrong, but he seemed to be pushing them a few years ago and is backpedaling now.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2011 10:05 AM (Wweuu)

119 The subject was pseudo science. Keep the faith. I didn't realize there were limeys about.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 10:06 AM (SJ6/3)

120 Fox pre-game is well underway.  I'm thinking a thread should go up soon. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 23, 2011 10:07 AM (pW2o8)

121 Bigfoot science, phrenology, necromancy are all sciences now.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 10:07 AM (SJ6/3)

122 O/T:  Funny, someone just sent this to me and my first thought was that this is not who they would want you to think it is putting this out....

but have no idea how to find out who is actually behind it...

Posted by: curious at January 23, 2011 10:08 AM (p302b)

123 That is a good documentary. I have seen all those people somewhere before.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 10:08 AM (SJ6/3)

124

Also noteworthy is the tome of all greenies that somehow all of the environmental laws that we've passed for the last thirty years or so are all ineffective in stemming pollution, so we must pass even more, despite air and water quality studies that show improvement.

Nothing is ever enough for those brats. I'd personally like to see Michael Mann brought up on charges for all the money he's cost us in lost jobs based on his intentionally falsified "research."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 23, 2011 10:10 AM (b6qrg)

125

Corporate sponsors are interested in exposure to the well-educated, relatively affluent NPR audience, both on-air and online, which can be difficult to reach through other media.

NPR has this statement on their finance page.

So much stupid venality, so little time. 

1)  If your target audience is relatively affluent, then they can afford to buy their own damn entertainment.  

2)  I'm not even remotely interested in the advertising wants of corporate sponsors.  Buy your own ads and leave my wallet alone. 

The real reason, of course, is that the well-educated and affluent have an outsize impact on politics. 

Posted by: pep at January 23, 2011 10:10 AM (P18+/)

126

Funny, someone just sent this to me

B...b...but....Obama IS Jesus. And Fmr. Gov. Palin IS Pontius Pilate

Posted by: laceyunderalls at January 23, 2011 10:12 AM (xfL1+)

127 you know, if npr went public, just seseame street alone would pay for all their programing

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 10:12 AM (pYurd)

128 Michael Mann may go down on fraud charges. Our A.G. keeps making them give up more records of the systemic climate fraud at UVA.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 10:12 AM (SJ6/3)

129

128  or private

come on, i just started my second cup of coffee

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 10:13 AM (pYurd)

130

The other thing Crichton predicted in State of Fear, was the morphing of Global Warming, from actual warming, to the idea it made weather more "violent"... thus anything is warming...

 

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 23, 2011 10:14 AM (AdK6a)

131 I had to watch PBS for a few days when I was beyond civilization . Sesame Street was never on. I wonder what happened to it?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 10:14 AM (SJ6/3)

132 Since neither the Pack nor da Bears have cheerleaders, I offer this in support of the cheese heads. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 23, 2011 10:14 AM (pW2o8)

133 As I've told people for many years, and many times; Those people waving little red books around in the 60's didn't just throw them away one day. The books, and the ideas they imprinted on these losers, are still out there. Be Vigilant.

Posted by: TheSev at January 23, 2011 10:14 AM (iHeMr)

134 South Koreans storm hijacked ship, rescue crew.

Well done, boys.

BONUS: Eight pirates dead.

Posted by: logprof at January 23, 2011 10:14 AM (BP6Z1)

135

133  of course the cheeseheads do

just google packers cheerleaders

heh, bears fans really are pretty evil

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 10:16 AM (pYurd)

136 And this lovely lady in honor of da Bears. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 23, 2011 10:16 AM (pW2o8)

137 I can't figure why they took prisoners, what with all those poor malnourished sharks about.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 10:16 AM (SJ6/3)

138 OT except insofar as it relates to Crichton: While at an airport recently, I picked up a copy of his last book Pirate Latitudes (which I think was released right after he died; I hope this doesn't become a ridiculous Ludlum-like franchise thing).  It was classic Crichton, lent great insight into the historical context and associated mindset of the Caribbean pirates and privateers, and was all in all a very enjoyable read.

Also OT except insofar as it relates to pirates: Riptide by Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child is also excellent IMO.

Posted by: Bust of Churchill at January 23, 2011 10:17 AM (yARWD)

139 At best 1 out of 500 drug candidates make it to market. They die, to name a few, from being too toxic, too ineffective, a poor balance been tox and efficacy, too expensive to turn into something that earns enough money, not any better than what is already out there. The regulations that control drug development save lives by keeping (mostly) dangerous drugs off the market. They also take live by making each drug candidate run a gauntlet from discovery to market. This series of tests is so expensive and time consuming that people die waiting for the last teeny tiny bit of doubt to be removed from the regulator's minds. Well, enough so that the panel vote is "Approved". And always, not far away, the lawyers circle, their fins just visible.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2011 10:18 AM (Wweuu)

140

Freeman Dyson is one of the foremost thinkers and mathematicians of the 20th century (and even now in the 21st).  He has a chair at the Princeton Institute for Advanced Studies, which was Albert Einstein's before he died.

He examined the mathematics of Co2 -inspired global warming some years ago, and his conclusion was that CO2 would only warm areas (slightly) that were cold and dry (the Arctic, Antarctic and similar locations) because WATER is a much stronger "greenhouse gas" and is much more prevalent in the atmosphere and its impact on "global warming."  he was less than impressed by the whole global warming nonsense. He calls James Hansen "Jim", because he has known him for a long time.

Freeman Dyson is pretty left of center in his politics. He drives a Prius, had an Obama sticker on his car, etc.

For this publicized heresy, the National Academy of Science has put him on a list of scientists that are "not to be trusted" regarding "global warming". Like Richard Lindzen of MIT, too.

Denounced.  Freeman Dyson.  This is intellectually embarrasing.  These people have no sense, reason, or principles.

Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes.... at January 23, 2011 10:18 AM (sJTmU)

141 I refuse to root for the ChicagObearamas.

Posted by: USS Diversity at January 23, 2011 10:21 AM (DLxD/)

142 BTW, there are significant deposits of that in CA but the "greens" will not allow them to mine it. Imagine that.

Posted by: Vic at January 23, 2011 01:45 PM (M9Ie6)

Until 2002 California was the largest producer of Rare Earths in the world... right up until the Mines were shut down due to concerns over ground water contamination.

Now, we buy from China, were the do MUCH more damage through there mining techniques...

Kinda like Mideast oil... where they have NO real environmental laws, so its REALLY dirty.... vice drilling here where we at least keep damage to a minimum (if you take a world wide view)...

American Environmentalism is also about "Not in my backyard"...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 23, 2011 10:22 AM (AdK6a)

143

Pep: This is what got me:

Corporate sponsors are interested in exposure to the well-educated, relatively affluent NPR audience, both on-air and online, which can be difficult to reach through other media which can be difficult to reach through other media.

Because we all know that the educated and affluent depend solely on radio for their information.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 10:23 AM (A7E3U)

144

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

for the people of faith and greatness, i give you

http://tinyurl.com/4z5nvvw

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 10:24 AM (pYurd)

145 Actually pretty nice plan by the Commies. Stop US from using its own energy resources to cripple its economic growth, ultimately denying the US its own capital to develop those resources in the future. Create a new big third world country to exploit. Sweet. I guess you don't need to emigrate to be Forsaken.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at January 23, 2011 10:24 AM (TOfIP)

146 I wonder how all the filthy hippy Hollywood actors can sleep in their mansions at night with all those oil pumps down there in their neighborhood. That must be why they need all those medications to help them sleep.

Posted by: sifty at January 23, 2011 10:25 AM (vKGXx)

147 I think Aaron Rodgers wins in the girlfriend category. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 23, 2011 10:25 AM (pW2o8)

148

Posted by: Mr. Barky at January 23, 2011 02:24 PM (TOfIP)

Yep, any Countrys economy cannot be sustained if they will not use their own Natural Resources... as our Government stops us from using ours.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 23, 2011 10:26 AM (AdK6a)

149 Give it up, ncj, no self-respecting conservative (or sentient being) is going to root for Obama's pick. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 23, 2011 10:26 AM (pW2o8)

150

B...b...but....Obama IS Jesus. And Fmr. Gov. Palin IS Pontius Pilate

And we all saw his halo, didn't we guys? Guys? Hey, where'd everybody go?

Posted by: Obama Stashers Local 613 at January 23, 2011 10:27 AM (b6qrg)

151 navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads

I'd chew through three straitjackets to get to that. My record is two.

Posted by: sifty at January 23, 2011 10:27 AM (vKGXx)

152

OMG! more violence from Chicago against cheeseheads.

They are feeding greenbay fans to zoo bears!

http://tinyurl.com/4zl5m9y

 

Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2011 10:29 AM (hVDig)

153 Really would like the Bears to give Barry another Olympic Committee moment.

Anything to make the Child Emperor cry at this point is both fine and dandy.

Posted by: sifty at January 23, 2011 10:29 AM (vKGXx)

154 Isn't Hansen the "expert" that Chuckie the Johnson always cites when he says "so THERE, denialist wingnuts" ?

Or is Hansen his inspiration for his music?

Posted by: kbdabear at January 23, 2011 10:29 AM (vdfwz)

155 150  bull, sarah palin said the other day that if Da Bears lose, then the terrorists have won

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 10:30 AM (pYurd)

156 Chicago is out?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 10:31 AM (SJ6/3)

157

Alright Hubby just convinced me that it's really the New Jersey Jets and that I could reconsile myself with that because of Chris Christi.

He suggested that NE included vermont, home to Dean, Sanders and other miscreants.

I'll go Jets but I can't come up with any reason to support Chicago.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 10:31 AM (A7E3U)

158 148 I think Aaron Rodgers wins in the girlfriend category. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 23, 2011 02:25 PM (pW2o

--Me too, but then I'm biased toward brunettes.  However, if that's a tat under A-Rod's babe's right armpit, that's a DQ.

Posted by: logprof at January 23, 2011 10:33 AM (BP6Z1)

159 Scene 1:

Two commie idiots smoking a joint in a fetid apartment.

Hippy 1: Pass me that joint, maaaan.

Hippy 2: Here, maaaan.

Hippy 1: Whoa. America has, like, all the good shit and is unstoppable and evil.

Hippy 2: Let's tie, like, a big fucking anchor on it's back so it can barely move and feels self-conscious about everything, maaan.

Hippy 1: Far out, maaaan.


The birth of the environmentalpatient movement.





Posted by: sifty at January 23, 2011 10:33 AM (vKGXx)

160 It's Chicago. They probably bought the game.

Posted by: sifty at January 23, 2011 10:34 AM (vKGXx)

161 Don't politicize my football ! its just caustic and venomous - HA stole that
 
Go Da Bears

Posted by: melvin at January 23, 2011 10:34 AM (3OCZw)

162

Yes, of course, I'm rooting for my hometown team, the Bears...

What... Green Bay won???

As I've always said, its good to see that Great American Team, the Green Bay Backers win in the playoffs on their way to the World Series...

Posted by: Barrak Obama at January 23, 2011 10:35 AM (AdK6a)

163 Go Rahm's Rangers!

Posted by: sifty at January 23, 2011 10:35 AM (vKGXx)

164 When I see the words"reality star",My blood pressure goes up to capillary bursting .WTF is a "reality star"?

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2011 10:35 AM (j/0qN)

165 He examined the mathematics of Co2 -inspired global warming some years ago, and his conclusion was that CO2 would only warm areas (slightly) that were cold and dry (the Arctic, Antarctic and similar locations) because WATER is a much stronger "greenhouse gas" and is much more prevalent in the atmosphere and its impact on "global warming."

Time to for the left to redefine their terms again (they're great at this: liberal > progressive; global warming > climate change > climate disruption, etc.)

On another site I saw a warming alarmist advance the latest modification to the theory.  Water vapor is responsible for something like 95% of whatever warming effect there is, with everything else making up the other 5% or so.  The carbon emission component was around 1% of that five percent.  Thus, the alarmist theory was rightly getting beat up because carbon emissions were only responsible for 1% of whatever change was occurring.

Not a problem for the demented left.  Water vapor has now been redefined as a "feedback" rather than a "force" like carbon emissions and is simply written out of the equation (which I guess is their way of saying it's a symptom, not a cause, of global warming).  With the vapor removed, carbon emissions become - presto!, like magic -- 20% of the responsible force rather than 1%.

The left may be dishonest and manipulative, but they are clever and use words well in their efforts to control us (maybe they went to Jarods!)

Posted by: Bust of Churchill at January 23, 2011 10:35 AM (yARWD)

166 Patrick Moore is, in my opinion, one of the best writers on environmental issues out there.  He remains an environmentalist but. like Bjorn Lomborg, sees through the anti-capitalist agenda of the so-called "movement."  His book, "Trees Are the Answer" is the clearest, most concise book on forest ecology and management I've ever read.

Those who want to learn more about the green movement should read some of Ron Arnold's books going back to the 1990s: "Trashing the Economy," "Eco-terror," and "Undue Influence."  All seemed a little on the paranoid side back then.  Not so much now.

Posted by: Reiver at January 23, 2011 10:36 AM (RFTUX)

167

OK, Dave in Texas, either start the Playoffs Post or we'll hijack this one with picks of QB's girlfriends and live bears and stuff.

Oh, wait...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 23, 2011 10:36 AM (b6qrg)

168 The pregame is insufferable. Is a meteor storm too much to ask for?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 10:37 AM (SJ6/3)

169 @159

Yeah, that could be a tat.  Weird place for it. 

But that Kristin gal has a pretty blah bottom, imho.  Those bikini shots are not flattering. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 23, 2011 10:37 AM (pW2o8)

170 Church, baby, no problem. We broke the code.

That's why I only speak in profanity and old redneck colloquialisms.  Confuses the shit out of the poor eco-dorks.

Posted by: sifty at January 23, 2011 10:38 AM (vKGXx)

171 I might have to read the Crichton pirate book. He doesn't go for the prevailing myths.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 10:38 AM (SJ6/3)

172 OK, Dave in Texas, either start the Playoffs Post or we'll hijack this one with picks of QB's girlfriends and live bears and stuff

Would you prefer an evolution flame war? 

Posted by: Y-not at January 23, 2011 10:38 AM (pW2o8)

173

And I would weigh in on the Hot Cheerleader / Wife controversy, but my Political advisore say I must be carefull of the tone of the debate.

/looks nervously at Michelle

Posted by: Barrak Obama at January 23, 2011 10:39 AM (AdK6a)

174 170 It is a tat.I've seen them in that location before.Some plastic surgeons are going to make a killing down the road in the field of tattoo removal.

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2011 10:40 AM (j/0qN)

175 Oh, Look! The Chinese played propaganda songs at the White House celebrating Ameria's "defeat" in Korea! theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/49822/ Really sad a 5,000 year old civilaztion would play such juvenile games. But the fact they would even want too... Isn't it time to seriously consider if all the money we save on cheap Chinese junk at WalMart won't be dwarfed by our future defense spending to keep these childish, angry idiots under control?

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2011 10:41 AM (tJjm/)

176

Heard anything from the anti-war movement lately?

Only peep I've heard is some academic on O'Reilly  the other night who they were asking if we should continure to send money to Haiti since it's all getting stolen. He said yes. His reasoning? America is an imperial power and we are wasting money on wars. O'Reilly didn't even bother with asking him how we are an imperial power without an empire, expansion, etc.

Other than that they've been oddly quiet. You would think that the anti-war movement was really just a democrat political thing like, oh, environmentalism.

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 10:41 AM (A7E3U)

177 NPR receives no federal funding, dagny.

I've gotta be frank with you Chi-town, I can't begin to believe you actually threw this out there.

Posted by: jmflynny at January 23, 2011 10:43 AM (piMMO)

178

Would you prefer an evolution flame war?

Wouldst that we had lighter fare today. Cheerleader pix will suffice, as will recipes. Goes better with pizza, don'tchaknow.

And please, no diaper talk, especially from the morondudes.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 23, 2011 10:43 AM (b6qrg)

179

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2011 02:41 PM (tJjm/)

But it was such a pretty song...

Posted by: Barrak Obama at January 23, 2011 10:44 AM (AdK6a)

180 175 Another one on her left upper arm.Some kind of word tattooed on her ribs.Yes,I have carefully inspected the photos.

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2011 10:44 AM (j/0qN)

181 Posted by: robtr at January 23, 2011 02:29 PM (hVDig)

So cute!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at January 23, 2011 10:44 AM (zxpIo)

182 I will believe that we are in real danger from radical Islam when the morons all volunteer to fight as a group in Afghanistan.

Posted by: archie bunker at January 23, 2011 10:45 AM (0YS61)

183 Oh, and congratulations to Editor and Mrs. Editor on their new daughter!!!  So happy for them.  I lurked into the ONT just before going to bed last night and saw the news. 

Posted by: Peaches at January 23, 2011 10:45 AM (zxpIo)

184 We silently thank environmentalists and PETA at Grace every time we barbecue.  Knowing that it makes has-been actresses cry just makes the steak taste that much better.

Posted by: sifty at January 23, 2011 10:45 AM (vKGXx)

185 @144

Dagny-
At last, I have achieved victim status.  It's all gravy from here on in, baby!

Posted by: pep at January 23, 2011 10:45 AM (P18+/)

186

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2011 02:41 PM (tJjm/)

Nah, whats even better is that apparently no one in the Administration is enough of an expert on China to realize what they were playing...

Didn't we use to have Professional State Department flunkys for this?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 23, 2011 10:45 AM (AdK6a)

187

184  a girl?

excellent

sending him a text now

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 10:46 AM (pYurd)

188 I will believe that we are in real danger from radical Islam when the morons all volunteer to fight as a group in Afghanistan.


ahh. The good old "chickenhawk" bullshit is meekly thrown like a girl from the bath house coffee shop.

Posted by: sifty at January 23, 2011 10:46 AM (vKGXx)

189 Congratulations to the Editors!  I missed the news last night.


And please, no diaper talk, especially from the morondudes.

I almost lost it over the tampon discussion yesterday. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 23, 2011 10:46 AM (pW2o8)

190 141: Denounced.  Freeman Dyson.  This is intellectually embarrasing.  These people have no sense, reason, or principles. Or decency. They are amoral political shills pretending to be scientists.

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2011 10:47 AM (tJjm/)

191 I have no beef with real Bears fans.  Hell, every team has fans who find some of their fellow team supporters embarrassing.

Still, Bears fans here have to accept that for those of us without a dog in the fight we're backing the Pack.

Posted by: logprof at January 23, 2011 10:47 AM (BP6Z1)

192 Not Meathead again.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 10:47 AM (SJ6/3)

193 OOO hugs and coolness to Editor and Family!!!!

Welcome to the world, Baby, we'll try to help make your stay as comfortable as possible.

Posted by: sifty at January 23, 2011 10:48 AM (vKGXx)

194 OK, I'd better get going and start making that pizza.


Posted by: Y-not at January 23, 2011 10:48 AM (pW2o8)

195 Congrats Editor and family!

Posted by: logprof at January 23, 2011 10:48 AM (BP6Z1)

196 We have indeed "fallen asleep."

Let's see...

Reagan bankrupts them by upping the ante on military spending and wins a big one. Then, we've proceeded disassemble the good he did, bit by bit, ever since.

Sounds like Gorbachev had a legitimate strategy.

Posted by: jmflynny at January 23, 2011 10:48 AM (piMMO)

197 The Fox crew look much older outside.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 10:48 AM (SJ6/3)

198

192  Still, Bears fans here have to accept that for those of us without a dog in the fight we're backing the Pack

understandable

still evil heresy but understandable

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 10:49 AM (pYurd)

199 Hey archibald dumbass, only non-trolls are allowed to go OT!

Posted by: logprof at January 23, 2011 10:49 AM (BP6Z1)

200 Or that the chemical is made of some deposits only made in China--to be more precise. Posted by: dagny

Absolutely not true. Please stop repeating this bullshit.

REM deposits are all over the earth. The US used to be the no. 1 exporter of REM until Chinese mining co's undercut the market. China mines most of the REM on the market today but are NOT the only country with deposits.

Please for the love of all things good and tasty, don't repeat half-assed 'facts.'

Posted by: goldbricker esq at January 23, 2011 10:49 AM (h2t8r)

201 logprof, I was 100% rooting for the Bears until a certain Hussein-come-lately weighed in and threatened to ruin the Superbowl for everyone.  Now, I'm just hoping for a good game.  So sad that one person has so much self-centered phoniness.

Posted by: Peaches at January 23, 2011 10:50 AM (zxpIo)

202 198 The Fox crew look much older outside

Well, they sure do look colder.

That Howie is a fine-looking piece of man-meat, though, inside or outside. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 23, 2011 10:50 AM (pW2o8)

203

Congratulations to the Editors!

Ahh, the Moron Herd is expanding. Send our regards to the proud parents.

I almost lost it over the tampon discussion yesterday. 

I'm not gonna ask 'cause I don't wanna know. However, it's nice to know that we discuss varied subjects here and don't discriminate on the basis of sex.

The reason we're all here is because we're not all there.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at January 23, 2011 10:50 AM (b6qrg)

204 Archie was the straight overweight guy. The evil kool aid drinking lefty fudge packer was Meathead.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 10:51 AM (SJ6/3)

205

oh, for the record

if odumbass was a real bears fan, hewould be there now at the game

this game is bigger to bears/packer fans than the superbowl

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 10:51 AM (pYurd)

206 The "organized" members of the environmental movement are indeed at least neo-communists and they sincerely want to dictate how everyone lives. There is some merit in wanting a safe and reasonably clean environment but that is not what these social engineers seek. They also won't let popular will deflect them from their course.

I bought the malarkey about DDT because I didn't know any better. Any pesticide, natural or synthetic, can be dangerous if improperly used but DDT was abundant enough and cheap enough that Third World nations could afford to use it to protect grains and other crops in storage. Prior to DDT, losses to insects and other vermin were as high as 30% (or more in some areas) which ascerbated subsistence level existence in those poor countries. Along came the ban on DDT and the problem of loss to vermin has returned to previous levels.
I won't question the good intentions of Rachel Carson with her "Silent Spring" but others seized upon it to promote another agenda entirely.

If you add in this ethanol scam -- and I never really considered it a scam but the physics cannot be ignored, it returns less than the energy put into it and at the price of increasing grain prices -- one could almost get the idea that the "green" movement is trying to wipe out a lot of humans. No gulags or midnight "arrests" and executions this time, but in the name of Gaia. Marx, Lenin and Stalin must be smiling in their graves.

We won't be fooled again. The big bell has rung for the Green Movement and it is now no better than the Red Brigade or the KKK. When I see "Greenpeace" now, I will also see nice, shiny jack boots of the "Green Goons". Anything it publishes, any crisis it pushes, must now be considered suspect and any data coming from them cooked and "computer modeled".

Liberalism shows once again why it and Islam seem so compatible ... both promote megadeath and limitless misery, they just don't say so in public.



Posted by: Full Moon at January 23, 2011 10:51 AM (DtbEv)

207 What the hell was that?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 10:52 AM (SJ6/3)

208 203 198 The Fox crew look much older outside

Well, they sure do look colder.

That Howie is a fine-looking piece of man-meat, though, inside or outside. 

Posted by: Y-not at January 23, 2011 02:50 PM (pW2o

--There was a 30 on 30 special on ESPN about the Raiders (mainly focusing on when they were elite) and Howie did not look much younger in the cheesy rap video they cut in the '80s --I believe it was for the Super Bowl where they beat the Redskins-- than he does now.

Posted by: logprof at January 23, 2011 10:53 AM (BP6Z1)

209 183, erg stars in Brain Damage II: Drooler's Revenge

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2011 10:53 AM (Wweuu)

210 204  just texted him everyone's regards

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 10:53 AM (pYurd)

211 Why why why do they always have to wait until the very last second to put up the football thread?  Don't they realize that the pre-game trash-talk is one of the most essential elements of a football fan's life?

Posted by: Peaches at January 23, 2011 10:53 AM (zxpIo)

212 Ok, stuffed artichokes are simmering on the stove. 

Where the hell is the football thread?

Posted by: Tami at January 23, 2011 10:53 AM (VuLos)

213 The CEO of Toyota admitted that even with all the government subsidies it would take $5/gal gas to break even.

Right after I bought my Jeep I started getting a flood of surveys in the mail, all of them querying what it would take for me to consider switching to hybrid technology. Of course, they didn't come right out and say it, but it was easy enough to figure it out from the questions:

At what price of gas would you begin to drive less?
At what price of gas would you consider a more fuel-efficient car?
At what price would you consider hybrid technology?

I answered: $10 for all.

It they intend to force me to convert, they're going to have to fight a very pissed off America to do it.

Posted by: jmflynny at January 23, 2011 10:53 AM (piMMO)

214 207 209  it was a packers fan

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 10:54 AM (pYurd)

215 I watched many a Bears game at Billy Ayers house.Barely knew the guy.

Posted by: Obumbles at January 23, 2011 10:54 AM (j/0qN)

216 I very nearly threw something at the television.  Thank G-d the kids grew out of that phase shortly thereafter.

Bless you and your self-control. I would have had to buy a new tv.

Posted by: jmflynny at January 23, 2011 10:55 AM (piMMO)

217 navycopjoe, have you seen the corny "Aaron Rodgers Rock and Roll" video yet?  It is to laugh.

Posted by: logprof at January 23, 2011 10:56 AM (BP6Z1)

218 214 You are familiar with the precision blogging machine of AOSHQ yes?

Posted by: steevy at January 23, 2011 10:56 AM (j/0qN)

219

220  not yet, i'll check it at the end of the quarter

cause heeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeee we go

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 10:57 AM (pYurd)

220 222 okay, maybe not

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 10:58 AM (pYurd)

221 Football thread not happening.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at January 23, 2011 10:58 AM (SJ6/3)

222 Sadly, yes, steevy.  It's almost like they know that the world's smartest commenters are unlikely to go elsewhere . . . and treat us accordingly.  I wonder if the head Ewok is rooting for the Jersey team today.

Posted by: Peaches at January 23, 2011 10:59 AM (zxpIo)

223 Oh, crap, not THIS guy again . . . sigh

Posted by: Peaches at January 23, 2011 11:00 AM (zxpIo)

224 I am not as passionate about the AFC game today.  For sentimental reasons, I have a bias toward the Jets.  Their only Super Bowl appearance was before I was born, and also one year before my Chiefs won, so I'm hoping if the Jets return to the big game the karmic wheel will turn for my boys soon.

Posted by: logprof at January 23, 2011 11:00 AM (BP6Z1)

225

Goldbricker.

Go here http://tinyurl.com/59rw6r

The CEO of this multi-national corporation told me that their biggest challenge is ensuring that they can the chemicals for the batteries out of china.

I'll let him know that some guy on some blog doesn't think he's right about where his expansion problems lie.


 

Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 11:01 AM (A7E3U)

226 It's up!

Posted by: Tami at January 23, 2011 11:01 AM (VuLos)

227

damn that guy is good

Posted by: navycopjoe hating on the cheeseheads at January 23, 2011 11:01 AM (pYurd)

228 Where the hell is the football thread?

Have to pick out an appropriate Bears cheerleader.


Damn. That was the most classless fan response to the national anthem I have ever seen.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at January 23, 2011 11:01 AM (4ucxv)

229 224 Football thread not happening.

fixt.

Posted by: Barbarian at January 23, 2011 11:01 AM (EL+OC)

230 Ain't it about time for the Annual AoSHQ Moron Convention and Wife Tasting Competition? I'll bring a couple of cheap California bubbly blondes, with a hint of spice and summer's eve...

Posted by: CoolCzech at January 23, 2011 11:01 AM (tJjm/)

231 The AoSHQ football thread has been cancelled due to global climate disruption and cob-loggers not making bail, but mostly cob-loggers not making bail.

Posted by: eman at January 23, 2011 11:02 AM (Wweuu)

232 BEARSSSS!!!!!!

Posted by: mesablue at January 23, 2011 11:02 AM (4g5dk)

233 @146 Also with land grabs under the false environmental initiatives.
link to Big Government. Check map at bottom.

Posted by: sig at January 23, 2011 11:03 AM (T5Fwu)

234 Ditka scores 67 points and recovers his own onside kick and runs it in.

Posted by: mesablue at January 23, 2011 11:04 AM (4g5dk)

235 OT: E85 fuel has been approved for vehicles 2001-2006.

Posted by: Midwest farmer with a lot of wood at January 23, 2011 11:05 AM (EL+OC)

236 The best argument to use on the stupid idiots pushing AGW is this:

In order to have globull warming first you have to have warming. The AGW proponents kept saying that we had heated up about 1°C in the past 100 years. First almost ALL of that occurred in the first 30 years and 0.6°F of it was measurement adjustment by a convenient fudge factor.  This is by the warmies own admission.

Now we find that except for the fraudulent NOAA data with 600° spots in MI and WI we have been cooling down significantly for the last 15 years. In fact, we are now cooler than we were at the beginning of the 100 years.  There is no warming, human caused or otherwise.

Posted by: Vic at January 23, 2011 11:05 AM (M9Ie6)

237 REM deposits are all over the earth. The US used to be the no. 1 exporter of REM until Chinese mining co's undercut the market. China mines most of the REM on the market today but are NOT the only country with deposits.

Please for the love of all things good and tasty, don't repeat half-assed 'facts.'

Posted by: goldbricker esq at January 23, 2011 02:49 PM (h2t8r)

Close, but wrong... US used to be the top producer of REMs until the enviros got all the mines shut down....

And now that companies are trying to start new mines, the EPA is holding them up from doing so.

It was NOT anything CHINA did, it was our own Government.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 23, 2011 11:08 AM (AdK6a)

238

 I will believe that we are in real danger from radical Islam when the morons all volunteer to fight as a group in Afghanistan.

*Look around tent*

Go fuck yourself.

Posted by: Alex is currently deployed at January 23, 2011 11:13 AM (J2ejK)

239 I wonder if the head Ewok is rooting for the Jersey team today.

I love ace, but I think he's not a football fan... or much of a sports fan at all, NTTAWWT.   (Well, actually, there is something wrong with it, but he has many other fine qualities.) 

Posted by: Y-not at January 23, 2011 11:28 AM (pW2o8)

240 (Well, actually, there is something wrong with it, but he has many other fine qualities.)

If you consider a full body pelt a "quality."  Oh, shit, I just cracked myself up.

Posted by: Peaches at January 23, 2011 11:33 AM (zxpIo)

241 Go fuck yourself.

Thank you, Alex. In more ways than one.

Posted by: jmflynny at January 23, 2011 11:34 AM (piMMO)

242 Oh, sure, now that it's too late to save the discussion, they put up a football thread.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at January 23, 2011 11:36 AM (bxiXv)

243

Going back to the NPR & CPB controversy - as in do they get federal funds?  The other thing to look at is where are they located.........for many years in Chicago, the local NPR station was located in a building owned by the Chicago Public Schools.  Look around at where the stations are located, and you will find many of them are living low-rent at taxpayer expense. 

City Colleges of Chicago runs a PBS-TV station (channel 20 over the air).  That's taxpayer money too.

Posted by: Boots at January 23, 2011 11:53 AM (neKzn)

244

State of Fear made a very convincing argument anti global warming hysteria. To me, Crichton's books have always seemed to tilt right if anything (Disclosure was about sexual harrassment/political correctness as I recall).

Pirate Latitudes was a good quick read with some great background on the strategy of war (I don't know what else you call it) at sea. Would be an awesome movie with the right director and if played straight (I don't really care for the campy Johnny Depp portrayal of pirates).

For me, I try to conserve resources, recycle, do what I can in the context of my day to day life. I don't happen to have an SUV, but until I see Al Gore, John Kerry et al start walking the walk and living in homes smaller than a super Wal-Mart, jet hopping around the globe on private planes, all that, they can kindly STFU and stop preaching about other people's SUVs and lifestyles. They are simply not serious. Typical lib hypocrisy: Do as I say, not as I do.  

Posted by: RM at January 23, 2011 11:58 AM (1kwr2)

245 Posted by: dagny at January 23, 2011 03:01 PM (A7E3U)

Batteries these days are crap.  They don't last long at all and they are expensive.  Used name brand batteries and they still failed.  I mean batteries should be good for more than a few days.  And I look at them closely and they are made in China, just like the crap that was setting laptops on fire. 

I'm so sick of not being able to find anything in this country that isn't made in China.  Food, clothes, everything and it's crap, it doesn't last.  My mom tells me the stuff that used to be made in Japan was great, can't even find that stuff.

Posted by: curious at January 23, 2011 12:41 PM (p302b)

246 Posted by: RM at January 23, 2011 03:58 PM (1kwr2)

a friend of mine told me that the whole point of "global warming" was to get the Chicago exchange open and producing money.  You know that state of the art place where they want to trade carbon credits.  He says it is up and running and I don't remember hearing anything about that but he says with GE at the helm now it will definitely expand and the republicans won't be able to do anything to shut it down.  I laughed cause I think the republicans are a part of it too and wouldn't want to shut it down.

Posted by: ..................................... at January 23, 2011 12:44 PM (p302b)

247
Best part of State of Fear? The Martin Sheen character being disemboweled and eaten alive by cannibals. I actually laughed out loud. Hilarious.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2011 01:16 PM (TAjuH)

248 The Forsaken should have been posted on the book thread.  But what the hell...read it anyhow.

Posted by: libra at January 23, 2011 01:12 PM (kd8U

I'm going to look for it.  Thanks for the suggestion.

Posted by: RushBabe at January 23, 2011 01:20 PM (urYpw)

249 The Democrats won all the Senate squeakers? I wish, dude. BTW, anyone willing to be listed as a reference for the new position I'm applying to? http://ace.mu.nu/archives/307362.php

Posted by: Joe Sestak at January 23, 2011 01:34 PM (45WVs)

250 You know that James Hansen who compared coal plants to Nazi Death Camps? His computer models were used to predict global COOLING in the '70s. http://tinyurl.com/4kwlklq You know how he thinks China is our only hope to save the world from global warming? Why is China buying all that coal from the United States to fuel their "death camp" coal plants? http://tinyurl.com/34acoo2 (On the other hand, they stage rolling blackouts when they want to save energy, and only turn on the heat in the cities when a certain calendar date or low temperature is reached in the fall. So maybe Hansen sees their capacity to totally control the energy use of each citizen). Must give him a thrill.

Posted by: KarenT at January 23, 2011 01:47 PM (UtkVC)

251 nice post Andy.

"The collapse of world communism and the fall of the Berlin Wall during the 1980s added to the trend toward extremism....."

trend toward extremism... seriously...?
Mao = how many million murdered.... 60... 70?
Stalin.... ?
DouChe...?
Don't Cry for me Venezuela ....?

fuck these clowns. they are non compos mentis.

Posted by: j2 at January 23, 2011 02:49 PM (DCdSz)

252 Andy - Excellent article. Well done.

Posted by: Yankee Mechanic at January 23, 2011 03:48 PM (G5qLy)

253 here's no natural reason for real environmental stewardship to have a political angle (apa

Posted by: wholesale human hair at January 24, 2011 05:20 AM (QLQLC)

254 mrsa

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