August 24, 2011
— rdbrewer Just reported by Bret Baier. More information when I get it.
Added: Reuters says that the Jobs "has been on medical leave for an undisclosed condition since January 17." He had been suffering from pancreatic cancer. Jobs has been named chairman. Tim Cook is to replace him as CEO.
From the Washington Post:
Steve Jobs has said that he intends to return to the company he founded at the end of June, after a five-month leave he is taking to fight the illness that has left him with a gaunt appearance. In the meantime, Apple will be helmed by Cook, a respected manager little known outside Silicon Valley."I know he and the rest of the executive management team will do a great job," Jobs wrote in an e-mail distributed inside the company Wednesday.
The early consensus, among some analysts and Mac fans, is that Cook is an able administrator, though not necessarily one with the sort of salesmanship skills or industry-bending vision as his boss.
Business Insider has Jobs' letter to the board:
To the Apple Board of Directors and the Apple Community:I have always said if there ever came a day when I could no longer meet my duties and expectations as Apple''s CEO, I would be the first to let you know. Unfortunately, that day has come.
I hereby resign as CEO of Apple. I would like to serve, if the Board sees fit, as Chairman of the Board, director and Apple employee.
As far as my successor goes, I strongly recommend that we execute our succession plan and name Tim Cook as CEO of Apple.
I believe Apple''s brightest and most innovative days are ahead of it. And I look forward to watching and contributing to its success in a new role.
I have made some of the best friends of my life at Apple, and I thank you all for the many years of being able to work alongside you.
Steve
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Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 02:48 PM (UzjcV)
Absolutely. What percentage is AAPL of the DJIA again?
Posted by: Methos at August 24, 2011 02:50 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: rdbrewer at August 24, 2011 02:50 PM (F2Wen)
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 24, 2011 02:52 PM (yrGif)
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 06:48 PM (UzjcV)
Yup. That's some nasty shit right there. Very low survival rate. He and his family have my sympathy.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 24, 2011 02:52 PM (dA2r6)
I try to avoid buying your overpriced and overhyped products Mr. Jobs, but I wish you well personally.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 24, 2011 02:52 PM (ENKCw)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 02:52 PM (pV6cO)
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 02:53 PM (UzjcV)
Posted by: That's Mr. Jehovah To You! at August 24, 2011 02:53 PM (QgAFR)
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 24, 2011 02:53 PM (yrGif)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 24, 2011 02:53 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2011 06:49 PM (eiQoK)
Even assuming he is, so what? The man is likely dying of pancreatic cancer, and you want to know if he's a liberal?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 24, 2011 02:54 PM (4OvDk)
Posted by: Methos
NASDAQ, and they were 20% at the beginning of the year. NASDAQ rebalanced the composition to get them down to 12%.
Posted by: $15 Trillion and Counting at August 24, 2011 02:54 PM (DEcmU)
FIFY.
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 02:54 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 02:54 PM (pV6cO)
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 02:56 PM (UzjcV)
When Jobs finally does shuffle off this mortal coil, expect droves of Apple fanbois to commit mass suttee upon his funeral pyre.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at August 24, 2011 02:56 PM (EeYDk)
I assume it's better that we speculate about how his imminent death will affect the perception of Apple's viability as a profitable company?
Or is your horse too high to get offended by that?
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2011 02:57 PM (eiQoK)
Illness is so random and cruel. Steve Jobs should live to 100, productive and creative all the way.
But no.
Posted by: arhooley at August 24, 2011 02:57 PM (3n2lK)
Yeah, right. Now's probably a good time to buy, because Cook's not going to screw with what's in the pipeline.
That said, getting out after everyone calms down in a year or two is probably a good idea.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 24, 2011 02:57 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 02:57 PM (pV6cO)
That's a good question.
The answer is tied up with another question: How much has he been "driving" the company behind the scenes since he was diagnosed with cancer? He already took one leave of absence. If he's only been there for the sake of the Cult of Jobs, they'll be fine in a few weeks to months, once it becomes clear Apple is fine on their own.
If he's been a major driver, they're screwed six ways from Sunday.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 24, 2011 02:57 PM (4OvDk)
See? There's a bright side to everything.
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 02:58 PM (MMC8r)
'Pancreatic is actually a slow developing cancer it's just that there is no easy way to detect.It's often only noticed when it is too late.'
Yes--a tumor marker for screening is very much needed. Hopefully one will become available. It has been very useful for prostate, colon, ovarian, and others.
Posted by: lapis lazuli at August 24, 2011 02:58 PM (j8pyV)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 24, 2011 02:58 PM (iYbLN)
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 24, 2011 02:59 PM (yrGif)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 24, 2011 02:59 PM (4OvDk)
Thanks I knew it was a major part of one of the indexes.
Dow futures down -46 (were -23 when I checked after hearing the news)
Nasdaq down -17.5 (didn't know to check at the time)
Or ... it could be noise,
Posted by: Methos at August 24, 2011 03:00 PM (sOXQX)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 03:00 PM (pV6cO)
Who are you talking about?
AllenG.
I simply asked about his political leanings. No inferences. Just a simple question.
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2011 03:01 PM (eiQoK)
Buying opportunity in a few weeks or less once all the wienies sell off their stock.
I'll take Apple without Jobs over Miscrosoft with Gates. What do you want, an iPod or a Zune?
Posted by: Dang at August 24, 2011 03:01 PM (TXKVh)
Fuck cancer.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 24, 2011 03:01 PM (Gk3SS)
This x infinity.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 24, 2011 03:01 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 07:00 PM (pV6cO)
I do wish you would stop talking about our president like that.
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 24, 2011 03:01 PM (yrGif)
Posted by: skree at August 24, 2011 03:02 PM (pVd17)
Posted by: izoneguy at August 24, 2011 03:02 PM (i6Neb)
Posted by: Y-not at August 24, 2011 03:03 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 06:54 PM (pV6cO)
You're right. But like most high-grade tumors, once it breaks into the bloodstream, it spreads like wildfire. Most treatments, once it's discovered, are only palliative.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 24, 2011 03:03 PM (dA2r6)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 24, 2011 06:59 PM (4OvDk)
Fuck Off.
I asked a question and you assumed what you wanted to.
I suppose its classy to infer that strangers have less empathy or experience with life threatening disease than yourself.
Again. Fuck off.
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2011 03:05 PM (eiQoK)
1. You'll go nowhere without a college degree
2. An apple a day...
Best luck to him going forward, his vision has touched and enriched many millions of people that he'll never know no matter how long that he lives.
Posted by: ontherocks at August 24, 2011 03:05 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 06:54 PM (pV6cO)
Ditto for bladder cancer: no screening test. Blood in the urine was the first signal in my Dad's case and he was gone in less than nine months.
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 03:06 PM (UzjcV)
We could use a bunch more progs like Jobs. Creative, profit-driven, shareholder friendly. Besides run your mouth on a message board, what the fuck have you ever done?
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 24, 2011 03:06 PM (+lsX1)
Right, but if it becomes a regular *ha* thing, you might want to WebMD to see if you've got other symptoms. Something about your body being unable to process fat, iirc.
Posted by: Public Service Message
A friend of mine who died from it said he first noticed an oily look to his stool. I think his dad died of the same thing so he was watching for it. He was a good guy.
Posted by: Dang at August 24, 2011 03:07 PM (TXKVh)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 03:09 PM (pV6cO)
Posted by: USS Diversity at August 24, 2011 03:09 PM (KbEJl)
We could use a bunch more progs like Jobs.
I am sure the politicians he donates to agree, but that wasn't the point.
Besides run your mouth on a message board, what the fuck have you ever done?
Nice. Internet toughguy. You can kindly go fuck yourself as well.
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2011 03:09 PM (eiQoK)
Who'll create the ipad 69?
anyway its sad. Even though the mac sucks, Jobs did a lot in American Industry. It's probably health related. I wish him well.
Go PCs
Posted by: Flapjackmaka at August 24, 2011 03:09 PM (ZM5UJ)
3 weeks after whipple surgery ,1 month after a diagnosis.
stinks
Posted by: willow at August 24, 2011 03:10 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: EC at August 24, 2011 03:11 PM (f4TZ2)
Posted by: dagny at August 24, 2011 03:13 PM (+sP6K)
Yup. What this thread needs is a reminder of how awesome our prospects for healthcare in the future are.
Posted by: Methos at August 24, 2011 03:14 PM (sOXQX)
boy this is a happy thread
Posted by: USS Diversity at August 24, 2011 07:11 PM (KbEJl)
All of us know our time will come eventually. We'd rather hope that our manner of passing be due to something less debilitating.
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 03:14 PM (UzjcV)
expensive surgery for no gain. uninsured they sold everything they had trying to save her.
Posted by: willow at August 24, 2011 03:14 PM (h+qn8)
Never, I hope. As useful as Flash is, Adobe just can't seem to secure the plug-ins.
There's a lot of nasty stuff that you can ship through Flash.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 24, 2011 03:14 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Soetoro Zero at August 24, 2011 03:15 PM (MJ2eC)
If Apple was anything more than a marketing scheme this wouldn't matter. Personally, I hope for the demise of these phony tech companies like Apple and Google, but not due to cancer. That is awful.
Posted by: bernverdnardo at August 24, 2011 03:15 PM (xXhWA)
AllenG.
I simply asked about his political leanings. No inferences. Just a simple question.
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2011 07:01 PM (eiQoK)
Fwiw, I don't see a fucking thing wrong with the question.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 24, 2011 03:15 PM (yKL37)
Or, as Reynolds repeats, "Faster, please."
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 24, 2011 03:16 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Racefan at August 24, 2011 03:16 PM (n7d+s)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 24, 2011 03:16 PM (eOXTH)
You forgot the, "in the ass" part.
Posted by: Gilda Radner at August 24, 2011 07:04 PM (Zs83Q)
No kidding!
Posted by: Farah Fawcett at August 24, 2011 03:17 PM (LH6ir)
Posted by: working man's PhD at August 24, 2011 03:17 PM (le5qc)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 24, 2011 07:16 PM (eOXTH)
fixed
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 03:18 PM (UzjcV)
Posted by: willow at August 24, 2011 03:18 PM (h+qn8)
If memory serves, there are a couple kinds of Pancreatic Cancer. The one that everyone's talking about (which is unfortunately the common version), and another one that's got a survival rate of about 75% (which is uncommon).
I couldn't tell you the difference, though.
(When Jobs got his transplant, there was speculation that he had the latter form.)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 24, 2011 03:19 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 24, 2011 03:19 PM (OhYCU)
Fwiw, I don't see a fucking thing wrong with the question.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 24, 2011 07:15 PM (yKL37)
I didn't even know dude had cancer.
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2011 03:20 PM (eiQoK)
Posted by: maloderous at August 24, 2011 03:20 PM (NIcsL)
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 07:06 PM (UzjcV)
That's not totally true. Bladder cancer comes in various grades. Low-grade cancer is very treatable and in many cases completely cured. High-grade bladder cancer can be detected early by simply peeing in a cup and sending it to a pathology lab for microscopic screening. Many times it can be caught early enough to be treated even without surgery.
Fulminating high-grade bladder cancer can also be treated, again if it's early enough with radical surgery, radiation/chemo therapy. But, as with all high-grade cancers, if it has invaded the blood stream and has metastisized throughout the body (usually the bones) then the survival rate is very low.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 24, 2011 03:20 PM (dA2r6)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 03:21 PM (0q2P7)
Jobs had a pancreas transplant in Tennessee a couple of years back. There was a small stink at the time because he was able to shop for a transplant.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 24, 2011 03:21 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 24, 2011 06:44 PM (yrGif)
Big time. Apple is less than nothing without Jobs.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 24, 2011 03:21 PM (F5tJy)
Posted by: willow at August 24, 2011 07:18 PM (h+qn
yes and something went wrong and he about bleed to death so they stopped before they were finished. when he was well enough they did some new thing at the time. i cant remember what it was.
Posted by: Racefan at August 24, 2011 03:22 PM (n7d+s)
is whipple where they try to "debulk" the tumor?
Posted by: USS Diversity at August 24, 2011 07:11 PM (KbEJl)Whipple is when they gut you like a fish. They remove lots of stuff -- sometimes part of the stomach. It is not a happy operation.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative)) at August 24, 2011 03:22 PM (LH6ir)
Not to single you out, but why are so many of us changing our usual nicknames?
(I plead guilty: I used to post as ya2daup; decided it had run its course and opted to use a favorite sign posted on my cubicle wall instead.)
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 03:22 PM (UzjcV)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 24, 2011 03:22 PM (UsjBj)
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2011 06:49 PM (eiQoK)
Yeah, Jobs is an ass, but he is the heart and soul of that company. Without him, Apple dives straight to the bottom. It's happened twice, already.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 24, 2011 03:23 PM (F5tJy)
Posted by: Racefan at August 24, 2011 07:16 PM (n7d+s)
I think for pancreatic cancer, it's about 3-5%....pretty rare. Good for your neighbor.
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2011 03:23 PM (X6akg)
(Ford is a loan company, and Reynolds makes most of its money selling off parts of itself.)
Good times.
Posted by: oblig. at August 24, 2011 03:23 PM (xvZW9)
I wondered. There's a guy who posts in a tech blog I read who uses the same handle, but is an annoying twit. You didn't seem like the same guy.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 24, 2011 03:24 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 24, 2011 03:24 PM (UQYNA)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 03:24 PM (pV6cO)
RICK PERRY THREADJACK!!!!
Skerry Perry "pron" (link to NRO) And, no, it's not real pron. Completely safe for all ages.
Posted by: Y-not at August 24, 2011 03:24 PM (5H6zj)
Apple makes the best shit. Plain and simple.
Posted by: rdbrewer at August 24, 2011 03:25 PM (F2Wen)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 24, 2011 03:25 PM (eOXTH)
Soros has been collecting screen names as a first step in his plan to cull the conservatives in America. He has some experience from when he was a kid, so it should be a good plan.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative)) at August 24, 2011 03:26 PM (LH6ir)
Apple the phony tech company was a ground breaker in PCs. That phony tech company Apple, revolutionized smart phones.
That phony tech company Google, has made more contributions to organizing and searching the vast expanse of the internet than any company prior.
There may be a lot...A LOT... I dislike about both companies. But both have made significant contributions; that can't be taken away by their avarice or any antipathy I might have toward them. Any more than I can take away the invention of the transistor or the development of UNIX away from AT&T.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 03:26 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 03:26 PM (pV6cO)
I don't know about 'best,' but being able to tightly control the hardware and software obviously has it's advantages.
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 03:26 PM (MMC8r)
There's a guy who posts in a tech blog I read who uses the same handle, but is an annoying twit. You didn't seem like the same guy.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 24, 2011 07:24 PM (bjRNS)
Not me: I pretty much confine myself to political and smart military blogs. The closest I come to technical is to post on WUWT.
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 03:26 PM (UzjcV)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 24, 2011 07:25 PM (c0A3e)
A destiny.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 24, 2011 03:26 PM (F5tJy)
Posted by: AmishDude at August 24, 2011 03:27 PM (T0NGe)
I had thought it was to cut it out. expensive surgery for no gain. uninsured they sold everything they had trying to save her.
Yeah I doubt I'd let Mrs. D hock everything for that.
On the upside, best friend just got declared Lymphoma-free. Apparently it's one you can kick, not just be in remission. But there again, not even 50 yet.
Posted by: USS Diversity at August 24, 2011 03:27 PM (KbEJl)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 24, 2011 07:16 PM (eOXTH)
And I thought it was because I was swallowing too much wood.
Posted by: Bucky Beaver at August 24, 2011 03:27 PM (dA2r6)
ehhhhh I wouldn't touch one of their personal computers or laptops with a 10 foot poll. If someone gave me one, I would sell it on ebay and use the proceeds to buy a real computer.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 03:28 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2011 03:28 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 24, 2011 03:28 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: Joejm65 at August 24, 2011 03:28 PM (UZuc4)
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2011 07:23 PM (X6akg)
thanks, hes a good guy...... back around 93 or so when the South had the BIG blizzard he let all the Morons around here live with him for 3 days.
Posted by: Racefan at August 24, 2011 03:28 PM (n7d+s)
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 03:29 PM (UzjcV)
Am I going to be required to be sad when Soros sheds the mortal coil?
I ask now, because he seems to be in good health and I'd hate to offend the empathy police if and when it happens.
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2011 03:29 PM (eiQoK)
Posted by: Michael J. Fox at August 24, 2011 03:29 PM (ZN2Tm)
Jobs had a pancreas transplant in Tennessee a couple of years back. There was a small stink at the time because he was able to shop for a transplant.
He traveled to different cities, and got on more transplants lists . smart move.
Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at August 24, 2011 03:30 PM (I6+t3)
Am I going to be required to be sad when Soros sheds the mortal coil?
Fuck that. I'd transplant Jobs' cancer into him if I could.
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 03:30 PM (MMC8r)
Like I said, I didn't think it was the same guy. You'd have had to have a major personality transplant. (The tech-blog-no-whining basically trolls the Apple evangelist there.)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 24, 2011 03:30 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 24, 2011 03:30 PM (UQYNA)
I don't know about 'best,' but being able to tightly control the hardware and software obviously has it's advantages.
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 07:26 PM (MMC8r)
Don't we know it! Damn you, Gates! Damn you to hell!
Posted by: IBM PCs at August 24, 2011 03:31 PM (UzjcV)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 24, 2011 03:32 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at August 24, 2011 03:32 PM (+lsX1)
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2011 07:28 PM (X6akg)
I don't have that. Though my sister does have a 42" (I think) Plasma HD from Panasonic and they've had it for a couple years and really seem to like it.
Posted by: buzzion at August 24, 2011 03:32 PM (GULKT)
(Ford is a loan company, and Reynolds makes most of its money selling off parts of itself.)
Good times.
CAT is still in business. And for the record Jobs ran Apple's computer business into the ground by selling itself as Betamax, just a cool betamax.
Had they not branched into other forms of consumer electronics they were in real trouble.
In other words, I am somewhat skeptical of how critical Jobs' was to Apple's recent success.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 03:33 PM (0q2P7)
There was some leftie "he's using his money for an unfair advantage" crankiness.
Not sayin' I agree with the criticism, just noting it.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 24, 2011 03:33 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Barry Obama at August 24, 2011 03:33 PM (FcR7P)
Let's also not kid ourselves -- a diet rich in saturated fats, 6 carbon sugars, + alcohol is fertile ground for cancer.
Posted by: SFGoth at August 24, 2011 03:35 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: Barry Obama at August 24, 2011 07:33 PM (FcR7P)
fuck you.
Posted by: Racefan at August 24, 2011 03:35 PM (n7d+s)
Nope. The racist Steve Jobs resigned just to smite you!
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 24, 2011 03:35 PM (c0A3e)
What is really interesting is his involvement in Pixar. The reason the Lamp exists today is because of his patience and faith in the group. They were originally part of George Lucas' empire, but only for research and development of computer effects. He wasn't interested in making animated films and made an amicable split. When they needed an investor, Steve Jobs stepped in (after his removal from Apple). He kept the company alive, despite losing millions over a five year period. He backed them when Disney started to interfere creatively with Toy Story and was able to launch them as a successful IPO when the film made it big and they needed money to grow the company. Years later, he helped merge Disney and Pixar together for $7 billion and became the largest shareholder. Really interesting stuff (I recommend watch "The Pixar Story" documentary, which is a feature-length film available on the 2nd disc of Wall-E Blu-ray, as well as the book, "The Pixar Touch," though it is much tougher on Steve Jobs then the documentary).
Posted by: Synnerman at August 24, 2011 03:35 PM (Y3Ssi)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 24, 2011 07:25 PM (c0A3e)
Speaking of which, is TheBrianKendrick posting here under a different nic?
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 24, 2011 03:35 PM (yKL37)
Posted by: USS Diversity at August 24, 2011 03:36 PM (KbEJl)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 24, 2011 07:32 PM (eOXTH)
I've hated Apple since the first overpriced Apple II's hit the market. Apple loved to abuse its customers.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 24, 2011 03:36 PM (F5tJy)
Posted by: jim abbott at August 24, 2011 03:36 PM (eOXTH)
Supposedly, the thing that Jobs pushed was "interface comes first" -- the human design folks trump the engineers at Apple. If that's true, and the company holds onto that lesson, then Jobs isn't key.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 24, 2011 03:36 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Barry Obama at August 24, 2011 07:33 PM (FcR7P)
Ah, yup. No one has whined about it like a bitchy girl as much as you, so you've got that going for you.
Posted by: Pope Gregory VII at August 24, 2011 03:37 PM (UzjcV)
Am I going to be required to be sad when Soros sheds the mortal coil?
Fuck that. I'd transplant Jobs' cancer into him if I could.
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 07:30 PM (MMC8r)
There's being wrong in your politics and then there's being wrong in your politics and evil.
Jobs is the former, Soros is the latter.
Posted by: buzzion at August 24, 2011 03:37 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2011 03:38 PM (FcR7P)
I don't have that. Though my sister does have a 42" (I think) Plasma HD from Panasonic and they've had it for a couple years and really seem to like it.
Posted by: buzzion at August 24, 2011 07:32 PM (GULKT)
Ok, good because I just hit the order button.
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2011 03:38 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: jim abbott at August 24, 2011 03:38 PM (eOXTH)
Everyone has an occasional floater though
floaters also mean too much fat in your diet...
Excellent! Turd Autopsiestm !
Is there anything this site can't do?
Posted by: Gunslinger at August 24, 2011 03:39 PM (Zi+FQ)
Jobs is still, I think, the single largest Disney shareholder.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 24, 2011 03:39 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: buzzion at August 24, 2011 03:39 PM (GULKT)
Don't we know it! Damn you, Gates! Damn you to hell!
IBM never gave a good God damn about the PC, from design to marketing to production. They still don't. Put's things in perspective; That IBM could design a computer architecture in their spare time, from a stack of leftover parts, that totally revolutionized personal computing.
Then they essentially gave it away. Because they never wanted to build it in the first place.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 03:39 PM (0q2P7)
Don't worry Obama, someday you'll be ranked right up there with Lincoln.
In looks. In fact, I think he's aleady beat you.
Posted by: USS Diversity at August 24, 2011 03:39 PM (KbEJl)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 03:39 PM (pV6cO)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 03:40 PM (pV6cO)
Making all the decisions, doesn't mean having all the good ideas.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 03:40 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 24, 2011 03:41 PM (AZGON)
Also Soros probably sold his soul to Satan,so he will continue to live for many years.
That's not always the case.
Posted by: Robert Johnson at August 24, 2011 03:41 PM (eiQoK)
And I'm sure they sweat that fact all the way to the bank, mind you.
As for cancer, ovarian got my mother. As is too often the case, it was too late by the time they caught it. Punch line is, she died because the treatments killed her liver before the cancer could do the job--it had been damaged by a bout of hepatitis 50 years earlier.
I take solace she had to be double-teamed to take her out of this world. Still hurts like hell some days.
Posted by: Vince Foster at August 24, 2011 03:41 PM (Fs7RJ)
Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2011 03:42 PM (FcR7P)
I think he's the Anti-Christ.
Either him or Al Pacino.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 24, 2011 03:42 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 24, 2011 03:42 PM (2tTzd)
I wish Wozniak were still a force in the company.
Posted by: jwb7605 at August 24, 2011 03:42 PM (Qxe/p)
Lefty, smefty. It was a smart move, wish everyone had the resources to do just that. The field I'm in is somewhat disheartning at times. There are a ton of folks I would have love to have seen get a transplant..bad thing is, the rejection meds you have to take are terribly expensive, some are not covered, period.
Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at August 24, 2011 03:43 PM (I6+t3)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 24, 2011 03:44 PM (eOXTH)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 03:44 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 24, 2011 07:35 PM (dZ756)
What in the world does that have to do with Jobs? He's pretty darned vegan.
Posted by: t-bird at August
1. It has to do with us. 2. How long's he been vegan?
Cancer is not a single-source illness. It's incredibly complex. The more factors you can reduce, the better off you are.
Posted by: SFGoth at August 24, 2011 03:44 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: Theresa D., TPT (FREE GGE!!) at August 24, 2011 03:44 PM (Zgfnd)
Posted by: Joe "Cracked Head Club" Biden at August 24, 2011 03:44 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 03:45 PM (pV6cO)
Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© sez F--- Nevada! at August 24, 2011 03:46 PM (Fs7RJ)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 03:46 PM (pV6cO)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 03:46 PM (7wmOW)
Cancer is not a single-source illness. It's incredibly complex. The more factors you can reduce, the better off you are.
Except for Asbestos.
And Cigarettes.
And Hot Dogs (combined with beer and mustard).
Posted by: AMA at August 24, 2011 03:47 PM (eiQoK)
Posted by: Blacksheep at August 24, 2011 03:48 PM (Yd5KG)
Or metastasis, cancer's version of a free-for-all flame war.
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 03:48 PM (UzjcV)
I'll take Apple without Jobs over Miscrosoft with Gates. What do you want, an iPod or a Zune?
------
*Happily holds up Zune and WP7*
Posted by: WheelmanForHire at August 24, 2011 03:49 PM (aG8nC)
He had the whipple, and then years later the liver transplant. I'm guessing he doesn't have cancer any longer, but his health is compromised by those buttkicker treatments.
Posted by: stace at August 24, 2011 03:50 PM (lYlx9)
Another shaky camera "found footage" horror feature. *spit* F* you Hollywood.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 03:50 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2011 03:50 PM (FcR7P)
In other words, I am somewhat skeptical of how critical Jobs' was to Apple's recent success.
Uhh, the whole "betamax" thing happened in the late 80s and early 90s when Jobs had been kicked out by John Sculley. Apple was about 90 days from bankrupcy when Jobs got Gates to loan them $150 million, and his first two products he designed after that (the iMac and iPod) were major hits.
Say what you want about Apple and its products, Jobs is most certainly responsible for their current success.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 24, 2011 03:50 PM (WXhxA)
What will they think of next? It's so innovative!
Their working on a secret project they are calling "Rhombus"
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 03:51 PM (0q2P7)
Still holding a grudge against apple from the 1900's. So whatever.
But the gov fining google half a billion dollars caught my attention, especially the quote from the government which looks like a case of psychological projection if there ever was one:
"patterns of bullying small companies, violating privacy of its users and ignoring proper business practices and in this case, ignoring the law."
Not your fucking job to worry about what medicine people want to buy fuck heads. And yes, I'm not in the mood to be anything but a hard core libertarian at the moment.
Posted by: Jimmah at August 24, 2011 03:52 PM (NIjD4)
Posted by: Barky O'Bumbles at August 24, 2011 03:53 PM (6Cjut)
People thought I was crazy. Sold it a few months ago. People thought I was crazy.
Heh.
Every now and then I have been known to do the right thing.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 24, 2011 03:54 PM (p+mzQ)
Jobs had an islet cell neuroendocrine tumor which is the more survivable kind. He had a liver transplant (not pancreas).
Posted by: Gran at August 24, 2011 03:55 PM (PxzSs)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 03:55 PM (pV6cO)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 24, 2011 07:54 PM (p+mzQ)
Poor animation, but outstanding judgment!
Posted by: Wodeshed at August 24, 2011 03:56 PM (SgLsM)
187 I want to see how they explain they launched an Apollo rocket and nobody knew about it. That shit used to be on TV every time they did it.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 24, 2011 03:56 PM (p+mzQ)
...when he introduced the Macintosh with completely closed architecture.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 03:56 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 24, 2011 07:42 PM (2tTzd)
Come on, EoJ. Apple suing Microsoft for windows, which Apple had stolen from Xerox, anyway, was the epitome of chutzpah.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 24, 2011 03:56 PM (F5tJy)
But the gov fining google half a billion dollars caught my attention, especially the quote from the government which looks like a case of psychological projection if there ever was one:
"patterns of bullying small companies, violating privacy of its users and ignoring proper business practices and in this case, ignoring the law."
Posted by: Jimmah at August 24, 2011 07:52 PM (NIjD4)
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.
-- Shit Jefferson Said, 1776
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 03:56 PM (UzjcV)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 03:57 PM (pV6cO)
Then there is this from the takers:
White House sources today claimed that the First Lady has spent $10million of U.S. taxpayers' money on vacations alone in the past year.
Branding her 'disgusting' and 'a vacation junkie', they say the 47-year-old mother-of-two has been indulging in five-star hotels, where she splashes out on expensive massages and alcohol.Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 24, 2011 03:59 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 07:56 PM (UzjcV)
I really hate trying to figure out what the hell pixy will do with my formatting requests and shit like this doesn't help. But perhaps I am whining ...
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 03:59 PM (UzjcV)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 24, 2011 04:00 PM (lGFXF)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 07:55 PM (pV6cO)
Sometimes the shaky camera thing works. I liked certain parts of Cloverfield. I know. I know. But for some reason I become fascinated watching it.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 24, 2011 04:00 PM (dA2r6)
Posted by: USS Diversity at August 24, 2011 04:00 PM (KbEJl)
Not your fucking job to worry about what medicine people want to buy fuck heads. And yes, I'm not in the mood to be anything but a hard core libertarian at the moment.
Posted by: JimmahHow much you want to bet that every single exec at Google was hot and bothered about Obaka's health care disaster?
Statists never think they'll be eaten by the crocodile.
Posted by: $15 Trillion and Counting at August 24, 2011 04:00 PM (DEcmU)
Yeah. And right about the same time, some teenager in Macau woke up in a bathtub full of ice with a shitpot of staples in his abdomen and a free iPod Touch.
FIFY.
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 04:01 PM (MMC8r)
they cast MATT DAMON
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2011 07:59 PM (eiQoK)
... into Outer Darkness? Amirite? I'd pay to see that!
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 04:01 PM (UzjcV)
And not all of the original Mac/Lisa UI elements came from the Xerox work either - a lot of it was developed in-house @ Apple.
Posted by: Gran at August 24, 2011 04:02 PM (PxzSs)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 07:58 PM (pV6cO)
My mistake. I meant, "intellectually". The idea of patenting square representations was just a bit of a stretch.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 24, 2011 04:02 PM (F5tJy)
Yes. And right now, that driving force is suing Samsung for patent infringement, because apparently Apple patented the fucking rectangle.
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 24, 2011 07:42 PM (2tTzd)
And they got busted big time for photoshopping evidence.
Posted by: buzzion at August 24, 2011 04:03 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 04:04 PM (pV6cO)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 04:04 PM (7wmOW)
Xerox Alto and Star lead to W which lead to Macintosh and XWindows which lead to MS Windows, which was more like Alto for the first few versions than it was like W, X,or Mac, but suddenly Apple thinks they came up with it. Laughable at best.
They copied a good idea, then they got pissed when their largest competitor copied it too. And shouted foul? Laughable.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 04:04 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: alexthechick at August 24, 2011 07:01 PM (Gk3SS)
You forgot the, "in the ass" part.
Posted by: Gilda Radner at August 24, 2011 07:04 PM (Zs83Q)
In Soviet Russia, and everywhere else, Colo-rectal cancer fucks you in the ass.
Posted by: Yakov Smirnoff, Oncologist at August 24, 2011 04:04 PM (xy9wk)
They say Moochelle has a tamale, but I'd just as soon take their word on that.
Posted by: Wodeshed at August 24, 2011 08:03 PM (SgLsM)
You should check out our on-line, full color catalog!
Posted by: Fish Tacos from Around the World at August 24, 2011 04:05 PM (UzjcV)
Posted by: USS Diversity at August 24, 2011 04:05 PM (KbEJl)
Posted by: jwillmoney at August 24, 2011 04:06 PM (fOFCE)
Posted by: deadrody at August 24, 2011 04:06 PM (GJhuj)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 04:07 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2011 07:28 PM (X6akg)
Don't know if you got an answer cuz I've been cleaning up after eating.
For kitchen viewing of news, talk or cooking shows 60Hz is fine but if you'll be watching sports or action (TV room stuff) you want closer to 240Hz for faster refresh rate.
Also LCD is better for brightly lit rooms, plasma for darker and LED is best but most expensive.
Free always looks good though.
Posted by: ontherocks at August 24, 2011 04:07 PM (HBqDo)
Nah, fuck him.
As for Jobs, he might donate to libs, but he ran his company like a Hank Rearden. He didn't go to the Government for handouts. They left him alone and he made shit people wanted to buy.
Posted by: DanInMN at August 24, 2011 04:07 PM (kIgEM)
Hey, not so fast on the Apple death watch. I know for a fact that several Pepsi co. execs would jump at the chance to run it.
Posted by: Wodeshed at August 24, 2011 04:08 PM (SgLsM)
Vegan, vegetarian, fruitarian, or low-fat, etc., since college, I think.
Good luck avoiding saturated fats. You avoid sunshine, too?
Posted by: t-bird
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Did you even look at my handle?
It's not as if a single molecule of satfat will induce cancer, but yeah, you can avoid all but a little satfat by eating a fish-based, whole grain, fruit, and veggie diet.
Posted by: SFGoth at August 24, 2011 04:08 PM (dZ756)
Posted by: Henry Ford at August 24, 2011 04:08 PM (7wmOW)
Don't believe that my being specifically disparaging is an indicator how I feel about Jobs or Apple as a whole. I fully appreciate many of the great products (I'm looking at you my beautiful 3GS) and many of the contributions (I'm looking at you Apple 1 and 2) they made to personal computing. I just dislike Macs and have for some time.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 04:10 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: USA at August 24, 2011 04:10 PM (6Cjut)
Actually, not laughable. Xerox was an investor in Apple.
The investment was the GUI, which Apple traded stock for.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 24, 2011 04:11 PM (bjRNS)
'Cause billionaires know better than we when not enough taxes are being paid by them and there's not the slightest possibility that the quest for more revenues might spill over to afflict lower tax brackets, is there?
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 04:11 PM (UzjcV)
@113: "Yeah,if Apple products really sucked,all the marketing in the world wouldn't help them."
Let's not jump to conclusions.....
Posted by: Bud Light at August 24, 2011 04:11 PM (xy9wk)
For kitchen viewing of news, talk or cooking shows 60Hz is fine but if you'll be watching sports or action (TV room stuff) you want closer to 240Hz for faster refresh rate.
Also LCD is better for brightly lit rooms, plasma for darker and LED is best but most expensive.
Free always looks good though.
Posted by: ontherocks at August 24, 2011 08:07 PM (HBqDo)
Thanks, OTR. It's for my bedroom which, when I watch TV in there, is not the most brightly lit room. I'll see how it goes....I can move it to another room if it doesn't work.
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2011 04:12 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Henry Ford at August 24, 2011 04:13 PM (7wmOW)
As for Jobs, he might donate to libs, but he ran his company like a Hank Rearden. He didn't go to the Government for handouts. They left him alone and he made shit people wanted to buy.
Self reliant, innovative, successful businessmen who support leftists are worse in my humble opinion. They lend credibility to their policies. Hacks, and mediocrities do not.
And Garrett didn't say anything wrong.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 24, 2011 04:13 PM (+3d8E)
Obama's focus on Jobs leads to yet another reverse-Midas touch.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 24, 2011 04:13 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 04:15 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: Racefan at August 24, 2011 04:16 PM (n7d+s)
It's not as if a single molecule of satfat will induce cancer, but yeah, you can avoid all but a little satfat by eating a fish-based, whole grain, fruit, and veggie diet.
Jack Sprat could eat no fat
His wife could eat no lean
My wife doesn't want to get tested for celiac because you have to be eating grains for the test work. She simply avoids gluten. She also has problems with the nightshade family.
What, my point? Not everybody has the innards for that diet.
Posted by: fluffy at August 24, 2011 04:17 PM (4pSIn)
Posted by: Bucky Beaver at August 24, 2011 07:27 PM (dA2r6)
-----------------
You hush your mouth!
Posted by: Barney Frank at August 24, 2011 04:18 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2011 04:18 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: steevy at August 24, 2011 04:19 PM (pV6cO)
AAPL has lost $18 billion in market capitalization since the Jobs news broke, about the same as the GDP of Paraguay.
Posted by: Jose at August 24, 2011 04:20 PM (WTNJJ)
The investment was the GUI, which Apple traded stock for.
That gets them code and copyright. Copyright doesn't mean someone can't copy function and look using their own code. Like I said, believing that because they had a copyright on the Alto GUI meant that no one could make a similar user environment is laughable.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 04:20 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: USA at August 24, 2011 04:21 PM (6Cjut)
Where's CDR M located?
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2011 04:22 PM (X6akg)
I wonder why they didn't wait to announce until Friday.
Posted by: Retread at August 24, 2011 04:22 PM (BO5ap)
Agreed. While the "blood type diet" is, in itself, wrong, the concept that our optimal diet is somehow connected to our genes does seem to be true.
My wife, for example, is 87% Italian, and gets along very well with a Mediterranean-style diet, while I need huge slabs of meat and a lot of dairy to function properly.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 24, 2011 04:22 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 04:22 PM (7wmOW)
But it could. So could one high energy photon. The golden gamma, it's coming for me...
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 04:22 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 04:23 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 04:23 PM (UzjcV)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 24, 2011 08:14 PM (4nfy2)
Winner
Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 24, 2011 04:24 PM (OhYCU)
My wife, for example, is 87% Italian, and gets along very well with a Mediterranean-style diet, while I need huge slabs of meat and a lot of dairy to function properly.
My farm-raised grandparents had butter and pork at every meal. Died in their 90s cancer-free.
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 04:24 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2011 04:24 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Racefan at August 24, 2011 04:25 PM (n7d+s)
Yeah, Ford only accessed the Advanced Technology Vehicles Manufacturing Loan Program in 2008.
Oh and the TARP by another name; TALF 2009.
... yeah, Ford again.
Suck it, you nazi symp.
Posted by: $15 Trillion and Counting at August 24, 2011 04:25 PM (DEcmU)
Current projections for Irene -- for what they're worth -- show a more-or-less direct hit on Martha's Vineyard this weekend (see sidebar). SCoaMFs hardest hit.
I'm doing my panic shopping tomorrow. The wife nixed buying a chainsaw. If the hardware deosn't have one to rent, I'll ask about a re-stocking fee.
Posted by: fluffy, Masshole at August 24, 2011 04:26 PM (4pSIn)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 04:26 PM (7wmOW)
But then again, Bill Gates has done nothing but steal other peoples ideas, Like Jobs did for Mac OS.
DOS = CP/M
MacOS = Xerox PARC (orig. developed by Bell Labs)
One of Jobs first gigs was for Atari. They paid him $3,000 to make Super Breakout!, and he gave Wozniak $300 to actually code it.
Posted by: KirkCameronLeftMeBehind at August 24, 2011 04:27 PM (iZ6fL)
Posted by: Martha's Vineyard's Golf Industry at August 24, 2011 04:28 PM (FcR7P)
Bad luck (that's what he's got, that's what he's got) ...
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 04:30 PM (UzjcV)
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 08:23 PM (UzjcV)
Rut...roh. I'm in Southern CT....and will be alone this weekend. I better get some supplies tomorrow.
Norfolk area.
Posted by: fluffy at August 24, 2011 08:23 PM (4pSIn)
So, will he be bugging out?
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2011 04:31 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: Racefan at August 24, 2011 08:25 PM (n7d+s)
Jane is at the Stand with Israel event tonight.
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2011 04:32 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: USA at August 24, 2011 04:32 PM (6Cjut)
DOS = CP/M
I believe Gates sold DOS to IBM before he actually bought CP/M, did he not?
Gates skills are less in technology and more in being a shark.
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 04:32 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 04:34 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT, O is SCFOAMF at August 24, 2011 04:34 PM (InqA2)
Rut...roh. I'm in Southern CT....and will be alone this weekend. I better get some supplies tomorrow.
Tami, you picked a bad weekend to stop sniffing glue
Posted by: fluffy, Masshole at August 24, 2011 04:34 PM (4pSIn)
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at August 24, 2011 04:35 PM (PZiww)
I'm doing my panic shopping tomorrow. The wife nixed buying a chainsaw. If the hardware deosn't have one to rent, I'll ask about a re-stocking fee.
Posted by: fluffy, Masshole at August 24, 2011 08:26 PM (4pSIn)
Posted by: F Kruger at August 24, 2011 04:35 PM (yrGif)
Posted by: Martha's Vineyard's Golf Industry at August 24, 2011 08:28 PM (FcR7P)
why ya want todo that to Kbear and GrandPa John? they dont want that SCFOAMF down there.thats just mean.
Posted by: Racefan at August 24, 2011 04:35 PM (n7d+s)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 04:36 PM (7wmOW)
In fairness Microsoft did buy DOS. It was Tim Paterson who copied CP/M sort of. And IBM who thought copying the interface of CP/M for the 8088 was the best idea possible. And Microsoft just put A and B together for a profit.
So basically IBM said to Gates "We want CP/M for the IBM PC!!"
Bill said "OK, I'll get some sort of port"
You can't accuse him of stealing the idea of CP/M when that was what was specifically requested by IBM.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 04:36 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: USS Diversity at August 24, 2011 04:36 PM (KbEJl)
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 04:36 PM (UzjcV)
Tami, you picked a bad weekend to stop sniffing glue
Posted by: fluffy, Masshole at August 24, 2011 08:34 PM (4pSIn)
Oh FML!
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2011 04:36 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 04:37 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Martha's Vineyard's Golf Industry at August 24, 2011 08:28 PM (FcR7P)
Try Tripoli for a vacation adventure that has already been prepaid by the US taxpayer!
Posted by: Hrothgar at August 24, 2011 04:37 PM (yrGif)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT, O is SCFOAMF at August 24, 2011 04:38 PM (InqA2)
Posted by: B. Obama at August 24, 2011 04:38 PM (6Cjut)
Wow, there's some real sandy vaginas/manginas on this thread this evening.
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 08:37 PM (MMC8r)
When is the last time a flame war was held here? The crowd seems poised to let fly ...
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 04:39 PM (UzjcV)
Posted by: YIKES! at August 24, 2011 04:40 PM (943Xa)
Gates was a huge tech head in his youth. Much more than Jobs. His work on an early BASIC interpreter is testament to his love of technology, at least in his youth.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 04:40 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2011 04:40 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: B. Obama at August 24, 2011 08:38 PM
Let's plunder their country. We sail tonight!
Posted by: Harald Bluetooth at August 24, 2011 04:41 PM (4pSIn)
The tide thing is a lot harder to control than you might think.
Posted by: B. Obama at August 24, 2011 08:38 PM (6Cjut)
But at least you'll soon no longer have to observe Ramadan, so you've got that going for you.
Posted by: No Whining at August 24, 2011 04:41 PM (UzjcV)
Posted by: B. Obama at August 24, 2011 04:43 PM (6Cjut)
I don't think the following is because of the quality of their product is so much better. I think it is an image thing, and they sell computers like Harley sells motorcycles.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 04:43 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 08:34 PM (7wmOW)
And in that one at bat he struck out. Jinx!!!! Wait until after he gets past .300!!
Posted by: joejm65 at August 24, 2011 04:43 PM (UZuc4)
Posted by: Trish at August 24, 2011 04:43 PM (yqhkv)
I think it's the snobby or 'Apple Is All' attitude that hard-core AppleHeads have. You know, the 'sleep on the sidewalk for a week for the latest iteration of the last irritating gadget' crowd.
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 04:44 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 24, 2011 04:45 PM (lGFXF)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 24, 2011 04:48 PM (fooXq)
I think it's the snobby or 'Apple Is All' attitude that hard-core AppleHeads have. You know, the 'sleep on the sidewalk for a week for the latest iteration of the last irritating gadget' crowd.
My San Fran nephew who is in the dot.com industry. You would think apple is his religion. Probably is...
Posted by: dagny at August 24, 2011 04:49 PM (kPTSb)
I divide the guilt between the deluded fools who live conservative/vote liberal, and the Party of Stupid. We can't attract Steve Jobs. Fuck. Think about that.
Posted by: arhooley at August 24, 2011 04:49 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: YIKES! at August 24, 2011 04:50 PM (943Xa)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2011 04:50 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2011 04:51 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Racefan at August 24, 2011 04:52 PM (n7d+s)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 04:52 PM (7wmOW)
Irene is going to the vineyard, that's where they are sending me.
PARTY!!
Posted by: Jim Cantore at August 24, 2011 04:52 PM (PZiww)
Apple's following HAD to be devoted. Apple never licensed anything. But, the Apple lovers liked the abuse. They felt extra-snobby because of having to endure it.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 24, 2011 04:54 PM (F5tJy)
I despise Mac V. Windows threads for many reasons. Apple makes good machines. No argument from me, a dedicated PC user.
However, we don't hate Macs. It's the stuff that nickless wrote about.
If every single question you had regarding a product you use was met with, "Yu shud geta Ford/ Rickenbacker /Honda ...," you might find it a bit insulting and annoying.
Again, I appreciate well-designed products that work but I don't beat off after reading the latest press release for GE refrigerators.
Posted by: $15 Trillion and Counting at August 24, 2011 04:54 PM (DEcmU)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 04:55 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 24, 2011 04:56 PM (fooXq)
Ipad: Ehhhh if it had a cell phone built in that I could swap with my Iphone so I could carry one OR the other I would probably own one. Otherwise it doesn't have sufficient utility from its ease of use over a netbook to justify the lack of a keyboard.
ITunes: Fast and convenient. I use it frequently.
IPod: If you like I tunes, and have an Iphone, a shuffle is cool. The rest are useless.
IMac: A pretentious device masquerading as a computer that is about as flexible as a glass two by four.
MacBook: The laptop version of the glass 2X4
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 04:57 PM (0q2P7)
Have you ever seen a Windows car sticker? Ever?
Posted by: $15 Trillion and Counting at August 24, 2011 04:58 PM (DEcmU)
My first computer was an out of date Apple IIG or something like that. Someone gave it to me. When I bought my first computer, I bought a PC because the software was so limited with Apple. I'm still a PC user and will probably never change.
I really broke my teeth on a TRS 80 at work. Had a lot of fun with that thing.
Posted by: Ronster at August 24, 2011 04:58 PM (IdUUs)
Posted by: jim at August 24, 2011 04:58 PM (49LlK)
Between the iPhone, iPad, iTunes and the app store, Cook would have to be a SCoaMF to screw it up.
I hope they get into the auto industry so I can see flying cars before I shuffle off this mortal coil.
I was promised flying cars and I fucking expect flying cars dammit!
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 24, 2011 08:48 PM (fooXq)
--It's not a question of screwing up the existing game plan. It's a question of developing the next one. And Rex is dead.
Posted by: jim at August 24, 2011 05:00 PM (49LlK)
279 - LOVE the pig. Don't care if it kills me.
Posted by: Marybel at August 24, 2011 05:01 PM (Hic+o)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 05:02 PM (7wmOW)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 24, 2011 05:03 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Pantless Deviant at August 24, 2011 05:03 PM (sTS/8)
NASA used to run very smoothly off of Apples until somebody high up who didn't know how to use them decided to replace them with the "industry standard" Windows systems. An unbelievable amount of Chaos ensued and continues to this day. It contributed in many ways to the down hill slide at the space agency.
Apple computers have got a wonderfully usable GUI which is supported by a hard core Unix OS underneath. If you need to do something serious with an Apple that Unix command line is a pop up terminal away. Gives the machine both grace and power.
When I was in one of the other vendor booths at the National Computer Conference in 1979 Wozniak and Jobs were young guys in the Apple booth, and a young Bill Gates was in the Microsoft Booth. That seems like it was just yesterday. It saddens me to hear of Jobs' resignation - I wish him nothing but the best in the future.
Posted by: An Observation at August 24, 2011 05:04 PM (ylhEn)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 24, 2011 05:04 PM (fooXq)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 05:04 PM (7wmOW)
Exactly what did they "revolutionize" sure they made significant contributions.
Their original ideas include the Apple 1 which was a kit computer that had no operating system, but did interface a keyboard and monitor to a micro computer for the first time, though it had been done with mini computers in years prior. The Apple 2 whose only unique feature was a color monitor option.
The Apple one was an enthusiast machine only. The apple II was too expensive for the average person to own.
Most bought home computer: Commodore 64. There is your "revolution" if there was one.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 05:05 PM (0q2P7)
Just kidding... Posted by: Rex
Hey, I use it on my second machine. If I had a better main system, I'd dual boot for dangerous activities ... like posting here.
Posted by: $15 Trillion and Counting at August 24, 2011 05:05 PM (DEcmU)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 24, 2011 08:48 PM (fooXq)
You got a Segway. It's better than a flying car ... so they said.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 24, 2011 05:06 PM (F5tJy)
While too much fat in the poop can make it float (and indicate problems), it's not necessarily a danger sign. For healthy folks, floaters also happen when you have a lot of trapped gas. So, if you've recently changed your diet, this can happen. But, if you have floaters all the time, it might be time to get a checkup.
Since we're talking poop, let me recommend a book for anyone with young morons-in-training. Grossology (the science of really gross things) goes into the science behing poop, snot, earwax, slime molds, etc...
Both my kids loved the books (thee about a dozen in the Grossology series). Much to my wife's displeasure (she comes from a family of very well-mannered women), they'd regularly bring up a new gross fact they'd learned at dinner. It also gave them a lot of cred with their friends.
I've given copies to about a half dozen kids (family and friends) for birthday/Christmas presents, and I've never been disappointed by the kids' response to the book.
Posted by: RightWingProf, managing partner, Bacon & Cleavage LLC at August 24, 2011 05:06 PM (avT4H)
Well, this will delay the iPorn holographic wristwatch, for one. Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 24, 2011 05:08 PM (fooXq)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 05:09 PM (7wmOW)
I'm guessing there's a book of Jobs in a vault somewhere and it better fucking have a chapter on flying cars.
Yes, Rex is dead but his hat is immortal.
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 24, 2011 09:04 PM (fooXq)
It does. You're not allowed to buy one. Sucks to be you.
Posted by: jim at August 24, 2011 05:10 PM (49LlK)
What makes an iPod better than my Walkman MP3 player?
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 05:10 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 24, 2011 09:08 PM (fooXq)
Only the English version. The Japs are having a great time with it
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 24, 2011 09:09 PM (7wmOW)
It's tough to beat off to 20000 characters.
Posted by: jim at August 24, 2011 05:10 PM (49LlK)
We've had a lot of experience in our family with cancer (both my wife and I lost our fathers to cancer (colon and lung), a son, and a nephew, and both our mother's are breast cancer survivors). It's a nasty, nasty disease, and the treatments for it themselves are probably worse than most other diseases.
Our prayers for him and his family.
Posted by: RightWingProf, managing partner, Bacon & Cleavage LLC at August 24, 2011 05:10 PM (avT4H)
Sure, and you can install an nice version of X/Unix on a PC and it will run like a top. Had that been what NASA had transitioned to they wouldn't have had the problems they had AND they wouldn't have to deal with a proprietary architecture. Funny thing. Macs run one operating system, no other choices. I can still run DOS 6.22 on a PC if I need a solid embedded system, UNIX flavor if I need reliability, Windows if I need flexibility and open objects.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 05:11 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: progressoverpeace
Oh, oh, you don't know Apple's history! You need to tattooed it on your forehead in reverse!
Yes, they did while Jobs was building great things like NeXT. There were white box Macs for a few years.
Posted by: $15 Trillion and Counting at August 24, 2011 05:13 PM (DEcmU)
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 09:10 PM (MMC8r)
Speaking of Walkmans, SONY, the Apple of twenty years ago, has a market cap of 21 billion today. Interesting.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 24, 2011 05:13 PM (F5tJy)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 24, 2011 05:13 PM (fooXq)
Just kidding... Posted by: Rex
Hey, I use it on my second machine. If I had a better main system, I'd dual boot for dangerous activities ... like posting here.
This laptop is running Puppy Linux, and has been since the hard drive went bad in it six months or so ago. It's a beautiful thing (especially for a mini-distro), and it's extended the lifespan of this old box for the foreseeable future. I don't see any reason I'll be going back to M$ ever again.
Posted by: nickless at August 24, 2011 05:14 PM (MMC8r)
By the way Derek Jeter, ya know that washed up ball player???
He's not a player. He's the Captain.
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2011 05:16 PM (eiQoK)
Posted by: Rex Harrison's Hat at August 24, 2011 05:17 PM (fooXq)
The Mac makes a poor high performance system as the closed architecture limits configuration possibilities.
The Mac makes a poor enthusiast user system as it's limited enthusiast user functionality requires anyone but the most advanced to adapt to it; rather than it adapting to its user.
The Mac makes a good low user computer. Easy to configure, and works without much trouble.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 24, 2011 05:17 PM (0q2P7)
@106, 107: Amen! Like him or not, we're witnessing the passing of one of America's greatest businessmen of the past 100 years.
Posted by: Do at August 24, 2011 05:18 PM (KxSdY)
Posted by: Ronster at August 24, 2011 05:19 PM (IdUUs)
Posted by: Forrest Gump at August 24, 2011 05:25 PM (fooXq)
Posted by: The Most Dangerous Thing AudioBook at August 24, 2011 05:25 PM (Gr44r)
Apple was only a few weeks from allowing Motorola to sell Mac clones in the mid 90s. They pulled the plug after Motorola had invested quite a bit to bring the clones to market.
--Apple almost did allow legit clones.
Posted by: jim at August 24, 2011 05:28 PM (49LlK)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 24, 2011 05:30 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2011 05:37 PM (FcR7P)
His obsessive focus on design and usability made tens of millions of people happy and created a lot of value. He clearly was a tremendous motivator of people and knew how to make wise hiring decisions.
If Jobs hadn't existed we'd still have smartphones and pcs and laptops. I think he's accelerated the tablet market a few years by his force of personality. But that would have happened regardless as well.
He's an impressive man. And he's probably suffering a great deal even as I type this. I would have liked to see what he would produce in the next ten years, even if I probably would not have bought it.
(I'm running Ubuntu only cause my hard drive corrupted my Windows 7 boot sector.)
An impressive man, but death comes for us all.
Posted by: Clubber Lang at August 24, 2011 05:52 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: Inspector Asshole at August 24, 2011 06:00 PM (LH9qe)
Posted by: Jean at August 24, 2011 06:10 PM (C/Pop)
Windows computers totally suck ass. They are bug ridden pieces of ill-conceived crap. They are virus magnets with security so bad that 9 year old kids bring down entire networks.
If carpenters built houses the way PC programmers program, the first stiff breeze would blow them down.
Posted by: navybrat at August 24, 2011 09:20 PM (CetLY)
Posted by: The Chap etc at August 25, 2011 03:31 AM (txvMT)
Posted by: Molon Labe at August 25, 2011 04:16 AM (JyCYK)
My iPhone is indispensable to me. It was my first Apple product, and I love it. I also admire what Steve Jobs has done in terms of pure entrepenurialship (sp?). A business man who came up with a product that people wanted, that worked, he made a ton of money doing it and people never considered themselves "ripped off." Truly a capitalist in an excellent sense of the word.
I know he's had serious and horrible health problems, and wish he and his family nothing but the best.
Posted by: Biblio at August 25, 2011 04:28 AM (y5VNb)
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