1
I heard this (because it's kinda old now) and it is excellent and ballsy.

2 The worm is turning

3

I can't square Wynn's support of Reid with his disdain for Obama.

4
So, make the bloody connection.

This disconnect, if you will, is our main obstacle.
Republicans do a shitty job at 'connecting' to the people, and they do even worse at 'connecting' Obama to Obama's shitty policies and shitty admin.

5

I can't square Wynn's support of Reid with his disdain for Obama.

For highrollers like Wynn it's all about protection.

6 Should there be an inquiry about whether the MPs take responsibility for the unlawful conduct at their hearing?

7
Wynn's no fool.

He spoke fairly of Reid not to praise him but to put pressure on Reid to oppose Obama.

8 When CEOs spoke out like that during the FDR regime they were "investigated" by the IRS and jailed.

9 Late to the party pal, but welcome aboard.

10 Yet he's still a proud Democrat, and loves him some Harry Reid.

His words are gonna leave a mark on The Dick, however.  So there's that.

11 "Steve Wynn Unwilling To Do His Share"

12 ...frightened of this administration.And it makes you slow down and not invest your money

Or invest it offshore, and keep it liquid so it can be moved with short notice.

13

Steve Wynn's gambling interests cannot afford to cross Harry Reid.

Haven't checked, but I bet he also supported Ensign.

14 I am a Democratic businessman and I support Harry Reid.

He trusts Harry to line his pocket, not pick it.

But sidesteps the fact that Harry will help Obama pick it.

He's dreaming of Mussolini, not Lenin.

15 It's all one.

Debt.  Spending.  Deficits.  Jobs.  Regulation.  Minimum Wage.  Unions.

All of them are unified and to talk about one without thinking about the others is not useful.

Yes, Republicans need to be saying "The debt ceiling is about jobs."  But they also need to say, "Spending is about jobs," and "The minimum wage is about jobs," and "over-regulation is about jobs."

We need to be saying, "The only way to get this economy moving again is to get government out of the way- that means reducing spending, reducing taxation and burdensome regulation, and allowing business to do as they see fit.

 More taxes will not spur this economy.  More regulation will not spur this economy.  More government spending will not spur this economy.  Expensive mandates will not spur this economy. 

If people want to get back to work to support their families, they need to support the Republican proposals to reduce spending, keep taxes as low as possible, and do away with expensive, arcane regulations and expensive mandates."

16 Racist.

17 Nice casinos you have there.  Be a shame if something were to happen to them.

18 "the weird political philosophy of the President of the United States."

I believe it's something called "communism."

Perhaps someone can send him a clue?

19 Posted by: Sheila.Jackson.Lee at July 19, 2011 12:12 PM (gQLr2)

To reduce the likelihood of me putting my fist through my monitor, this (and all related) socks should be banned.

Just sayin'.

20 OT -Rupert Murdock assaulted by a member of the public during the televised parliament hearing. Live on FOX now.

21
brb, winnin the future

22 I predict an explanation/retraction/out of context explanation within 48 hours.

23 21 OT -Rupert Murdock assaulted by a member of the public during the televised parliament hearing. Live on FOX now.

Posted by: Have Blue at July 19, 2011 12:13 PM (XPwyF)

Hit in the face with a shaving cream "pie" (Murdoch's wife hit the attacker).

24 OT(again) -  Reported to be a British 'comedian', whether he is a Stern type or Stewart type not stated.

25 OT:

The hearing in the UK on the News Of The World hacking scandal was suspended after someone threw something, possibly shaving cream, at Rupert Murdoch and then got punched out by Murdoch's wife.

26

I can't square Wynn's support of Reid with his disdain for Obama.

Posted by: boniface ballers

Easy. Reid didn't use Vegas as a cheap, negative prop in a speech. Obama did. Twice. Nobody likes being spiked. Being spiked by your team mate sucks. I think that this demonstrates that the teflon is wearing thin. We're hearing shots being taken that were unimaginable two years ago. Kinda sucks to be called a socialist one week after pretending you're Reagan reincarnated. It's like being spiked by a team mate.

27
More likely that Obama calls Wynn for a summit.

In which Wynn will emerge with his tail between his legs and nothing but praise for Obama.

28 But if we do that #16 AllenG, the rich will get richer and we can't have that happen because....just because. That's why.

29 He's your goddamm party Stevie boy, so STFU already.

30 You can listen to it here:  http://tli.tl/U0PNcG

31 Viva Las Vegas!!

32 brb, makin' the hard decisions, I think I'll use the wedge

33 And I'm saying it bluntly, that this administration is the greatest wet blanket to business, and progress and job creation in my lifetime. And I can prove it and I could spend the next 3 hours giving you examples of all of us in this market place that are frightened to death about all the new regulations, our healthcare costs escalate, regulations coming from left and right.

I'd love to hear every single example.  Seriously.  Keep hitting Barry where it hurts.  Perhaps an Obamabot or two will have their eyes opened.

34 It is often said that the GOP loses when it's talking about spending cuts and the debt limit, because it's not talking about jobs, and Obama wants to talk about jobs, so he wins.

The repubs need to emphasize that talking about jobs does not create jobs.  It's just talk. 

35

Wynn's a smart guy but it's not really the debt issue that's causing panic in the business community.  It's Obamacare.

Cost of capital is so low at present that even a spike in interest rates wouldn't be all that damaging, outside the banking sector of course.

Obamacare, on the other hand, is such an unmitigated disaster it's negatively affecting the job markets as we speak, across all segments of the economy, even before it kicks into gear.

Companies with just over 50 employees are cutting staff to stay under Obamacare's threshold.  Companies with slightly less than 50 employees are cutting back to make sure they don't go over the threshold, even at the expense of their own profits.  Companies with no realistic chance of getting under the 50-employee threshold nevertheless are cutting back to brace themselves for the higher benefits costs.  There are tens of thousands of businesses out there which fall into one of those categories. 

What's terribly ironic about this debt ceiling and deficit kerfuffle is that Republicans have allowed themselves to become so distracted they've lost sight of the elephant in the room. 

If the GOP runs against Obamacare next year and ties that into job losses there's a chance of unseating Obama and ending this nightmare.  If the GOP foams at the mouth about the debt ceiling and deficit, however, at the expense of the key issues of overregulation and jobs, they'll wind up defeating themselves, yet again.

36 This isn't Wynn's first trip to the woodshed with JugEars under his arm.
 
Link is to a 2009 interview with Rush Limbaugh.

37 My husband joined a small business three years ago and pulled them out of bankruptcy, turned the company around, and now they're doing really well.  He now is a part-owner of the business.

He wants to grow the company, but is waiting to see what lies down the road with Obamacare, and if we can toss Jugears out on his ass in 2012.  His employees who voted for Hope and Change have had a huge change of heart.

38 Leave out the Ried support thang and this is what I've been hearing from business owner friends for some time now. Hunker down and wait.

39 Anyone know what Obama thinks of Bitch McConnell's great idea to give him the power to unilaterally raise the debt ceiling?

40 There's a huge chunk of independents and Dems that aren't Republicans because they've been brainwashed into thinking GOP "membership" requires extreme gun enthusiasm and/or very pure views on abortion and/or being a card-carrying Christian and/or thinking a welfare state of ANY size is evil.  Deabusing such people of this view is how we can defeat Obama and kill off the Democrats for a long time.

41 I am a Democratic businessman... Whoa, stop right there. What the hell is that? I guess he expects his gov't to stay bought.

42 I wonder what he thinks of all of the SEIU thugs that work in all of his casino's.

43 Too bad the Repubs will run shrieking from the opportunity Wynn is trying to hand them.

The people are ready to hear the truth.  That we are boned and heading for disaster unless we put the chains back on the government monster.  But Repubs are afraid to actually say it.

And yea, glad to see AlanG above point the tie in to the minimum wage.  Our team should be relentless on that one.  It is nothing more than the government drawing a line and saying "Jobs worth less than this minimum wage we are establishing are jobs Americans should not and won't do.  Send them overseas, hire illegals, automate them away, we don't care as long as no American has to ever do them again."

They have sawed off the bottom rungs on the ladder to success and are then shocked (shocked I say) when the people at the bottom of the heap start just staying there in welfare instead of moving up over time as they used to.  Except of course they are not shocked, it was the desired result.

44

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II

 

I'm guessing that every day is your turn in the well?

45

Hoarders, yes. I have just realized I've become one, inadvertently, by putting so much of my IRA into gold.

Gold doesn't create jobs. Investment in business does.

I have just decreased the amount of capital available for business to grow.

Because of Obama and the Democrats.

I've never wanted 17 months to pass so quickly.

46

>>> The guy keeps making speeches about redistribution and maybe we ought to do something to businesses that don't invest, their holding too much money. We haven't heard that kind of talk except from pure socialists.

 

For the Winn.

47 Someone just attacked Rupert Murdock at the hearing

48 Wynn was a bundler for McCain apparently that sent in $262k in 2008. He's also sent $30k to the NRCC and GOPer's Dean Heller & Joe Heck last year. Dem's - Cholly Rangle, Harry Reid, Shelley Berkley, and $15k to the Dem Senatorial Campaign Comm.

He's just trying to cover his ass business-wise but the balance of his donations seem to tilt slightly to the GOP.

49 Companies with just over 50 employees... Are there signs of new corporate arrangements where you just become a cluster of fifty-person companies?

50

This was discussed a little in the Doom thread, but I'll say again, I have no sympathy for Steve Wynn.

It's people like him that bankrolled and voted for Obama. They thought he was just another democrat who would stay bought, only it turned out he was a pure ideologue.

Now Wall Street and Big Business are begininng to have buyers remorse.

Screw them

51 Wynn the Future

52

Nice casinos you have there.  Be a shame if something were to happen to them.

Posted by: Barry "the dick" Obama

 

Hey Paulie, check this out! This Chicago punk thinks he's a wiseguy.

 

53 OT: Gaza Flotilla Update I just flushed one.

54 OT -- Here is someone that should be invited to join the stompy boots wing of the 'ettes:
 
O'Brien chased Matthews, who has an extensive criminal history - including assault, reckless endangerment and robbery charges, according to court documents - and fought him.

When O'Brien tried wrenching her bag from Matthews' grip, he twisted her right arm and broke her wrist.

O'Brien countered by kicking Matthews in his leg.

A visibly pregnant O'Brien told CBS that Matthews used his forearm to hit her in the abdomen.

That's when she planted a kick that broke Matthews' tibia in two places and sent him limping away, defeated.
 
In Philly no less -- Wyatt, you on this one?

55 "Wynning"

56

Yes, Republicans need to be saying "The debt ceiling is about jobs."  But they also need to say, "Spending is about jobs," and "The minimum wage is about jobs," and "over-regulation is about jobs."

We also need someone out there telling people that it's OK to make money. At some point in time we allowed the left to stigmatize profit so that what we have today is a country in which a large number of people want to make more money for themselves but don't want other people making more money than they do.

We need to hammer on that Tenth Commandment. Envy and covet is killing us as a people.

57 Obama the one-armed bandit. Or is that onanism?

58 Are there signs of new corporate arrangements where you just become a cluster of fifty-person companies?

Yes but we started that before Obamacare due to the other regulations that kick in at 50.

59 When we were in Vegas attending a convention about three months ago, I had a cab driver who bemoaned the days when "the Real Mob" ran Vegas.  He missed the days when people dressed up to go out, and no one would have been caught dead in a casino in a tank top and cut-offs (and those are just the guys).

Gotta say, after a few days there, I tended to agree with him.  Vegas has some nasty tourists.  And most of them look like Hope & Change Obamabots.

60 Stress-related condition ‘incapacitates’ Bachmann; heavy pill use allegedIt starts.

Here we go again as Democrats and other detractors avoid substance in favor of gossip.

Gee, I wonder who is behind this??

61 There's a huge chunk of independents and Dems that aren't Republicans because they've been brainwashed into thinking GOP "membership" requires extreme gun enthusiasm and/or very pure views on abortion and/or being a card-carrying Christian and/or thinking a welfare state of ANY size is evil.  Deabusing such people of this view is how we can defeat Obama and kill off the Democrats for a long time.

Posted by: ParisParamus-Hewitt

 

In my experience, most of the people who say that are lying assholes. I sat with a lovely group who talked about how independant they were, and how they deplored the polarization of politics. One then launched into a list of politicians (all on the right) that they 'hated' because they were 'evil'. They followed up that performance with the teabagger pornagraphic term, which they defended. I noted that such behaviors aren't indicative of moderates. They were some flavor of leftist; they simply didn't want to say that. Trust me when I say that they didn't enjoy me telling them that.

Their version of the political spectrum consists (from Left to right): Lenin, some vague notion of commies(with the same status in realty as the tooth fairy), progressives, wonderful Moderate, Independant people and the right/nazis.

62
Deer Mr. Wynn: you voted for this clusterfark. So sad it didn't work out the way you wanted, with Lost Wages being one of the golden children, and not the Wicked Witch of the West.

63

>>> We also need someone out there telling people that it's OK to make money. At some point in time we allowed the left to stigmatize profit so that what we have today is a country in which a large number of people want to make more money for themselves but don't want other people making more money than they do.

 

At some point you've made enough money.....

64 62 Stress-related condition ‘incapacitatesÂ’ Bachmann Obama; heavy pill  cocaine use alleged.

Fixed.

65

To expand on your most excellent point as what we should be saying,

More taxes will not spur this economy, as the President has stated.

More regulation will not spur this economy, as the President has stated.

More government spending will not spur this economy, as the President has stated.

Expensive mandates will not spur this economy, as the President has stated.

I can remember two statments where The Vapid One™ has said these things off the top of my head, I don't think the other ones would be hard to find. We need to throw his words right back at him and question why he isn't doing what he said.

66

When we were in Vegas attending a convention about three months ago, I had a cab driver who bemoaned the days when "the Real Mob" ran Vegas.  He missed the days when people dressed up to go out, and no one would have been caught dead in a casino in a tank top and cut-offs (and those are just the guys).

Gotta say, after a few days there, I tended to agree with him.  Vegas has some nasty tourists.  And most of them look like Hope & Change Obamabots.

I would hate to be a cop in Vegas. Having to deal with the tourists who think it's their God-given right to act like complete and total asses just because "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas."

67 Yes but we started that before Obamacare due to the other regulations that kick in at 50.

Posted by: Bob Saget at July 19, 2011 12:30 PM (F/4zf)

What is it with 50? Why that number?

68

From GnuBreed's link:

 

O'Brien, whom police said is from Ridley Park, got her bag and was treated for her broken wrist at the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania.

Police found Matthews lying on the ground on the corner of 62nd and Market, and arrested him after O'Brien identified him.

Matthews was admitted to Hahnemann University Hospital. Police said the man is still in the hospital and will undergo two leg surgeries.

 

I went to H.S. not to far from Ridley Park (we played them in some sports, even though they were almost twice the size our school was.)  Those girls from Ridley were tough.  I'm not surprised!  I wonder if she did that in flip flops or sandals (it's been so hot back there!)  I'm not seeing any stompy boots involved, makes her even more of a badass.  Never mess with an hormonal, pregnant woman!

 

 

69

It's nice but his support of Harry Reid means that he probably didn't have a problem with croney capitalism but Barry's aggresive push to the left basically taking the cover off of the left's true intentions has him upset.

70 ...and I am a Democratic businessman and I support Harry Reid.

Apparently, he's also a dumbass in addition to being rich.

71 Posted by: BackwardsBoy at July 19, 2011 12:34 PM (d0Tfm)

And I would love to know why I'm not seeing commercials from the Republicans using those clips about once an hour.

72 "62 Stress-related condition ‘incapacitates’ Bachmann; heavy pill use allegedIt starts. Here we go again as Democrats and other detractors avoid substance in favor of gossip. Gee, I wonder who is behind this?? " And thus the Palinization of Bachmann begins. Note that it's the Daily Caller, ostensibly a GOP/right-leaning outlet. Palin? Nuts. A little wacky, a little crazy. O'Donnell? The same. Bachmann? The same. What a coincidence. What are the odds? And I guarantee that there are elements of the GOP more than happy to take part in it. Because conservative women just aren't electable, you know. They need to get back in the kitchen and let the old boys make the big decisions. My God. I'm a bit of an old-fashioned male chauvinist pig, and these women are making me a damn feminist. It's honestly sickening, and it makes me likelier to support any or all of these women. Out of spite, if nothing else. Cue tut-tutting from GOP mouthpieces . . . NOW.

73 Posted by: Blue Hen at July 19, 2011 12:31 PM (6rX0K)

Forget about it Blue Hen, its Romneytown.

74

What is it with 50? Why that number?

Posted by: KG at July 19, 2011 12:35 PM (LD21B)

50 is the magic number where small buisness regulations begin to kick in. For example that is where you must have trained first responders on site if you are more than so many feet from a public first responder station (i.e. nearly everywhere).

There are also break points at 100 and 500. Once you get past 500 you are then a "large" company and ALL of the onerous federal regulations are applicable.

75 Wynn can start making up for his past mistakes by supporting Sen. Heller against Rep. Berkley and supporting the GOP take-over of the state senate in Nevada (they need +1 seat for majority).

76 Remember, when visiting Lost Wages, never ever give a cent of your money to MGM/Mirage properties.  Boycott their restaurants, shows, hotels, and especially casinos.  They pulled out all the stops for Dingy Reid, going so far as to coerce convince their own work force to vote the right way or else "Angle would make sure" they lost their jobs.

The MGM/Mirage properties list:
- MGM Grand
- The Mirage
- Bellagio
- CityCenter (Aria, Mandarin Oriental, Vdara, Harmon)*
- Luxor
- Mandalay Bay (including THEhotel)
- New York New York
- Excalibur
- Circus Circus
- Monte Carlo

* CityCenter is 50% owned by the Obamacrats of MGM, and 50% owned by the terrorist-loving oil ticks of Dubai World.  Two good reasons not to go anywhere near that suck-hole.

77 I heard it on the call and came right over tor report it to you guys.  It was astonishing.  I even looked up to make sure he wasn't a closet conservative or something but he did support Reid.

This morning, during my crazy morning, I heard beck say he had lunch with a bunch of hedge managers.  Funny they are trying to invest in beck and beck wants no part of any of them cause he wants his autonomy.  I also heard him make an allusion to fox but in the inimitable beck way he never wandered back that way, well, at least, not that I heard.  I got concerned that he had lunch with the hedge fund managers.  they are brilliant.  They can talk to you and see inside your brain.  I worried that they would replicate beck before he had a chance to get his operation off the ground.

78 3I can't square Wynn's support of Reid with his disdain for Obama.

Wynn's not alone. Lots of Americans are finally figuring out Obama. but they can and will vote for the next socialist, even as they vote against Obama.

79 Posted by: Vic at July 19, 2011 12:54 PM (M9Ie6)

I guess I was asking why 50 is the magic number, but I suppose it's one of those things that just is, cuz the gov't says so.

80 You missed the point, Ace. You took Wynn's complaint about regulations -- which was dead-on -- and turned it into a statement about debt, which it is not.

I have heard this at my own place of employment, and read it in many business pubs -- it's regulation, it's the EPA and IRS on steroids, it's the health-care monstrosity, it's the threat of higher taxes. It's REGULATIONS. It isn't the public debt, per se, that's keeping businesses scared to hire and invest and expand.

You are correct that JOBS, JOBS, JOBS is the winning strategy in 2012. But focusing on debt as the cause of unemployment is a loser with the voters because it's not an obvious causal relationship. Why would cutting govt spending spur job growth, anyway? It won't. In fact, many people are afraid it's going to have the opposite effect, at least in the short term, and you can bet that's what the Dems are going to campaign on.

We HAVE to get debt under control, no doubt. But Jobs will win elections. Debt is a secondary issue (albeit one that resonates well with voters). Focus on Obama's hostility to business and free markets and energy, his fealty to labor and the greens, and don't ever mention one of those things without also inserting the word "jobs" into the message about a hundred times, and the president in 2013 will have an (R) next to his name.

A message about debt dovetails well with the jobs message, so it's not an either-or choice. But Jobs must Message #1. Debt is a close #2.

81 42 There's a huge chunk of independents and Dems that aren't Republicans because they've been brainwashed into thinking GOP "membership" requires extreme gun enthusiasm and/or very pure views on abortion and/or being a card-carrying Christian and/or thinking a welfare state of ANY size is evil.  Deabusing such people of this view is how we can defeat Obama and kill off the Democrats for a long time.Posted by: ParisParamus-Hewitt at July 19, 2011 12:22 PM (bN5ZU)   You are so right. the GOP needs to promote their own version O'care and assure the indies that they believe in Gorebal Warming, too. that's how WE WIN!!!   ^{Fuckin nitwit}

82 Harry Reid is Wynn's pal b/c Steve loves him some illegale labor - no O-care to worry about! It's that Reid protects Wynn, protects him from ICE and e-Verify (such as it is).

83

Harry Reid was Nevada Gaming Commission chairman before he was elected to the Senate.  Wynn and his pals made a big investment in Reid and Reid has protected their gaming business in Congress.  Sharron Angle called the gaming industry "evil."  Not hard to guess who Wynn supported in that race!

Wynn is also a socially liberal Jew, so it should surprise nobody that he voted for Obama.  It kills me when people say to someone like this "you voted for this Communist asshole, so STFU."  People like Steve Wynn do not read conservative blogs every day.  They are busy running their businesses.  They thought Obama was just a garden variety liberal, and they loved that he was black.  That's pretty much all they knew about him. 

There's an old joke from the Nixon law-and-order era that goes, "a conservative is just a liberal who has been mugged."  Now it is safe to say that a conservative businessman is a liberal who has been mugged by the reality of Obama's oppressive regulatory state.

84 btw, it scares me that he doesn't need vegas to survive, macau is going gang busters and he could completely lose vegas and be fine.  He only has the wynn and the encore, he sold the bellagio.  If he lost in vegas it wouldn't even make a dent.

85 what I want to know is why isn't anyone asking the question of why the ratings agencies matter when they kept their mouths shut during the CDO debacle and have kept their mouths shut the entire time when they should have lowered the rating long ago?

86 Posted by: . at July 19, 2011 01:36 PM (k1rwm)

Too many people got a lot of money riding on this.

87 He's a f'ing dickhead. He SUPPORTS Harry Reid, but is afraid of Obama? F' him! He better never get in a conversation with me. I'll punch him in the nose and it will can him.

88 willing suspension of belief

89 I agree with whatever poster said the "shout out" to Harry Reid was an attempt to cover his businesses from too much governmental interference.  Wynn is not stupid and he clearly gets it - the thread of what Obama might do next makes it a waiting game for businesses, especially when it looks like the One may not be president in 4 years.  the interesting thing to see will be if Wynn puts his money where his mouth is with 2012 coming up - giving money and supporting Obama is in sharp contrast to his business interests, which I think for Wynn will always take precedent over liberal jews tendency to seek "social justice" (hate that term btw).

90

Winn supports Harry Reid and he's worried about Obama?

 

Winn has no brains.

91 In case you're wondering why Wynn likes Reid - it's because Reid never got to run the country! If we had Pres. Reid since 2008 Wynn would likely be just as pissed off at him as he is at Obama. Socialism - nice to talk about, crappy when they're running the place.

92

I disagree with Steve Winn for the most part.  Of course if President Obama did insult Las Vegas then of course Obama should retract that but my problem with Steve Winn are as follows:

 

1.  i do not really believe that he is a democrati businessman.  I have friends in Vegas who tell me that Steve Winn is a pretty authoritarian personality type. 

2.  just because Winn supported Harry Reid does not mean that he's a democrat.  Politics makes strange bedfollows and it is possible that Winn could support Harry Reid because Harry Reid is more supportive of Casino business than the republican that was running against Mr .Reid but even though Winn supported Harry Reid he could still be GOP on the rest of his voting and support.  Did Winn support Obama ran for president, I do not know.

 

3.  The fact that Winn singles out only Obama to be annoyed at regarding the debt limit talks reeks of extremist right wing fanaticsm on the part of Winn.  Look, most Americans want a balanced approached to resolve the debt limit issue, but Winn had no criticsm for the extremist GOP position which would not include tax increases but he did get annoyed by Obama's positions in the debt limit debate so that tells me that not only is Winn not really a democrat but that his political views are extremely extreme right wing.  Keep in mind that the overwhelming majority of Americans do not support the GOP position of no new taxes on the rich whereas Winn seems to support that GOP position so this shows that Winn is not a democrat, is not even a moderate republican, but rather an extremist GOP type who likely supports Harry Reid because at the local level Harry Reid is supportive of the casinos better than the republican candidate is.

 

4.  keep in mind that Steve Winn is rich so the tea-party GOP congressmen's position works to help Steve Winn stay richer by protecting him from a tax increase.  The likley thing here is that Winn is frustrated because he senses that things might not go his way in the debt debate.  He is probably a GOP tea party supporter (regards to the debt limit issue) and he may sense that the tea party is losing ground on the issue given the polls (favoring the president's position) and that Obama is standing up to the GOP thus far.  So in his frustration Winn starts whining and griping about Obama and Winn goes so far as to lie and refer to himself as a democrat becuase he supports ONE democrat (harry reid) What a joke!!!! Supporting ONE democrat does not make you a democrat!!!!!! It looks to me like he is just another greedy grubby republican who does not want to contribute to our country's debt problem and he's mad at Obama because he senses that Obama might get some new revenue from people like him - rich people.

 

5.  Obama has a point about business not investing.  Businesses are making record profits but they won't hire people.  I think that, that shows how greedy and grubby business leaders are, and I also think there might be some collusion/conspiracy going on with that because business leaders have likely intentionally decided collectively to not hire people so they can keep unemployment numbers high in the hopes of making voters vote against Obama at the polls in 2012.  That's right, these republican business owners, such as Winn, are colluding to hurt america by not hiring new workers (despirt record profits and lots of money to invest) for the very exact and specific purpose that they want to keep unemployment high so that they can get Obama put out of office, get a republican put in office, and get their taxes lowered. 

 

6.  That's right!!!!!  That's why business leaders like Winn aren't hiring. It's all about hurting the country by keeping unemployment high unemployment so they can get the democrat out of office and get republicans in office so that the rich can get tax cuts.  That's why guys like Winn aren't hiring.  It's about artifically keeping the unemployment rate high so they can make voters angry at Obama and get him kicked out of office. 

 

7.  Of course guys like Winn and that guy from Home Depot won't admit that business is intentionally colluding to keep unemployment numbers high the proof is right there in front of our faces.  The proof is right in Steve Winn's own words.  Steve Winn said he, and other business leaders, are holding their money instead of investing and hiring is because they're scared of Obama but that makes no sense whatsoever given that the reason they are scared of Obama is because they won't hire workers.  Duh!!!  Steve Winn's lying poo doesn't even make sense.  Since he knows that the Obama administration wants guys like him to start hiring and since he knows that Obama's mad at guys like him because guys like him won't hire people, why don't Steve Winn, and the guys like Steve Winn, just hire people and get the President off their backs?  He says that guys like him aren't hiring because they're scared of Obama but that makes no sense at all because if guys like him would hire people then that is all that Obama is asking of them.  By not hiring people they are putting themselves in Obama's crosshair so that shows that their reason for not hiring really has nothing to do with them being scared of Obama.  Rather, these business leaders are intentionally damaging by not hiring people (workers they really could use) because they are trying to influence the next election - make voters angry at Obama.