1 Straw Poll: Who do you want in 2012?
None of the above.

2 Rick Perry?  Really?  Still?

3 But what do I know?  Brains!!

4 If Perry can not get it together, we definitely need somebody else to toss their hat into the ring.

5 Dan Quayle?

6 Rick Perry?  Really?  Still?
Posted by: Don Quixote
...........
yeah.. that's my feeling at this point.  a week ago I said I would still vote for Perry in the Illinois primary.  But after the debates this past weekend, I think I'm done with him.  He has the right vision, background and conservative credentials.

But I have come to the conclusion he's just not that bright, especially politically.

7 I voted for Jordan Jefferson

8 Dan Quayle

9

too early to make NH predictions:

1. Romney

2. Paul

3. Hunstman

4. Santorum

5. Gingrich

6. Perry

and don't forget I got Iowa 7/7 correct

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Doesn't Hide Behind Socks To Make A Point at January 10, 2012 07:09 AM (3XDPM)

10

I vote for "player to be named later". 

I fantasize that at the convention, people say 'to hell with this' and pick a decent candidate.

Who is your fantasy candidate?   Mine would be Rubio, with Paul  Ryan as VP.  Yes!

 

 

11 Toss Luap Nor into the mix and you'd have a hockey line from hell:

Goal: Perry - too many pucks to the noggin

Defense, Left: Luap Nor - refuses to block any shots on goal
Defense, Right: Santorum - too busy proselytizing to block shots

Center: Huntsman - uncommunicative: lapses into Mandarin at inopportune moments

Wing, Left: Romney - too pretty and patrician to break into a sweat
Wing, Right: Gingrich - too busy lecturing one and all on the theory of the game

12 And we thought the primaries in 2008 were bad...

13

this performance by Perry shows how right the genius at Election Projection is on this story:

http://tinyurl.com/7vulunm

14

Who is your fantasy candidate? Mine would be Rubio, with Paul Ryan as VP. Yes!

 Posted by: Lily at January 10, 2012 07:45 AM (igSv+)

Ryan/Rubio

15 Jeebus, a DOOM thread is more uplifting than this...

16 Jeebus, a DOOM thread is more uplifting than this...

Posted by: Jeremiad was a Bullfrog at January 10, 2012 07:48 AM (Og1Kk)

Exactly! First look at emigration?

17 ot author....look at the "argument i've been making" thread from yesterday.....comment 504

18 Tebow?

19 No Palin? Hater!

20

I will have to admit that Perry has given me reason to wonder too, but if he is not up to it, we need somebody else to get in.

Paul is that crazy old uncle that most people learn to keep locked in his bedroom.

Gingrich can talk a good game, but he is all over the map.

Santorum leaves me wondering if he is all that intelligent.

Romney is like a slimy used car salesman. He will sell you what you want, but you will leave the car lot wondering if you can make it home.

I will always wonder who or what convinced Huntsman that it was a good idea that he run for President on the Republican ticket. I suspect that he thinks if he runs now he will be in line next time, i.e. Romney.

I could vote for Santorum or Gingrich, but if Romney, Paul or Huntsman get the nomination, they are going to have to do it without me. I am not voting for any of them. I did all that with McCain.

21

Who is your fantasy candidate? 

 Posted by: Lily

...............

Christie.. and he's big enough he don't need a running mate..

22

Posted by: phoenixgirl....all in for perry at January 10, 2012 07:50 AM (Ho2rs)

actually everyone knows shes in our midsts we just dont know who she is exactly though I do have my candidates and try and stay away from them

23 Ham sandwhich

24

I could vote for Santorum or Gingrich, but if Romney, Paul or Huntsman get the nomination, they are going to have to do it without me. I am not voting for any of them. I did all that with McCain.

Posted by: Harry at January 10, 2012 07:54 AM (QUjQI)

Barrack Obama thnks you for your support

25 The way all the votes line up right now it kind of looks like that poll is giving me the finger.

Right back at ya, Poll Daddy!

26 Gingrich is dead to me after the left-wing bullshit talking points he has been tossing out the past few days.  I would vote for Obama before I voted for that sonofabitch.  He's a traitor to the GOP.. he cares only about himself.

27 WAR RICK PERRY

28 Enogh idiots voted for Obama last time to make me think they would learn better. But if we can not get any better candidates than what we have now, then they do not deserve my support. If Obama gets elected, then that convinces me that the American people are too stupid for words. But I ain't voting for Obama light.

29 When did Huntsman become a non-joke?

30

Ryan/Rubio

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Doesn't Hide Behind Socks To Make A Point at January 10, 2012 07:47 AM (3XDPM)

I like that, but I'd like Jindal/Rubio better. Or, if he could deliver Virginia for you, go with Jindal/McDonnell. We've got to carry Virginia to beat the Bastard-in-Chief.

31 When did Huntsman become a non-joke?

Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2012 08:03 AM (/McNP)

Hes still a joke. The problem is that his competitors joined him...

32 Who will throw the best Halloween party?

33

But I ain't voting for Obama light.

Posted by: Harry at January 10, 2012 08:00 AM (QUjQI)

once again, Obama thanks you for your support

 

We've got to carry Virginia to beat the Bastard-in-Chief.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at January 10, 2012 08:03 AM (cPJUK)

I think if Mitt (and likely will) wins, McDonell is the VP choice not Rubio

34 Whose Huntsman?

35 yep.......we conservatives will HAVE to suck it up if we really want the scoamf out of office.......that said i can't suck it up if the nominee is luap nor

36 Posted by: davidinvirginia at January 10, 2012 08:03 AM (cPJUK)

Sorry, it is not their time and they haven't paid enough dues yet.  If we are able to co-opt them into a more moderate way of thinking, it might be their turn in say 2028.

37 that said i can't suck it up if the nominee is luap nor

Posted by: phoenixgirl....all in for perry at January 10, 2012 08:08 AM (Ho2rs)

oh I agree on that, but i'll still come out and vote GOP downticket

Ron Paul is the exception to the rule

38 Ron Paul, foreign policy warts and all.

39 I remain undeterred: Perry and then Romney.

Santorum, as a second, if I must, but I don't really see Romney dropping out, so....

Newt, in my mind, isn't much less a crazy angry guy than is Paul. He's just better at hiding it.

40 I had to vote for Perry. He was the closest thing to "none of the above." And probably the least likely to pardon President Mayhem.

41 Newt, in my mind, isn't much less a crazy angry guy than is Paul. He's just better at hiding it.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 08:10 AM (piMMO)

at one point I was in for Newt but he's starting to go off the rails and get away from the strategy that had him surging before

42 23 actually everyone knows shes in our midst; we just dont know who she is exactly though I do have my candidates and try and stay away from themPosted by: AuthorLMendez, Doesn't Hide Behind Socks To Make A Point at January 10, 2012 07:54 AM (3XDPM)

"It" at work in the Staten Island Ferry Terminal on Manhattan. Same M.O.

43 Ryan/Rubio

I love Rubio, that being said, I'm not so thrilled with him trying to push through a unanimous vote on Georgia's admission to NATO.

How is it that that received no coverage here? It pitted two of our favorite conservatives against each other.

44 I am not voting for Romney. It is the same as voting for Obama. I am only voting for someone who is willing to change the direction this country is headed in.If that candidate does not show up, then you all can do it without me.

45 Of all the real (as opposed to fantasy) candidates we have, I think that Rick Perry is the only one who seems to get the URGENCY of some of the questions we are facing. I NEED that in our next President. I also demand that our next chief executor have uhm, some fucking experience in an executive position. I thought it a travesty, last election when our choices had been narrowed down to 3 fucking Senators. Romney fit that bill for me, last go-around but he is entirely unacceptable givin the last 3 years and his responses in the interim.

46 I love Rubio, that being said, I'm not so thrilled with him trying to push through a unanimous vote on Georgia's admission to NATO.

How is it that that received no coverage here? It pitted two of our favorite conservatives against each other.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 08:12 AM (piMMO)

oh wow I didnt know about that, I guess the primaries and Tebow magic are just on everyone's mind

47 Gingrich is dead to me after the left-wing bullshit talking points he has been tossing out the past few days.  I would vote for Obama before I voted for that sonofabitch.  He's a traitor to the GOP.. he cares only about himself.

He has a grudge to bear and doesn't give a rat's ass about the collateral damage he leaves in his wake.

48 You guys those of you saying " I wont vote for Gingrich or Paul, or Romney" why don't you take the logical step and just vote for Obama. Please I think you should, why go half ass?

49

I am not voting for Romney. It is the same as voting for Obama.

you're right you not voting for Mitt is like voting for Obama, so again he thanks you for his support

50

for your support*

*facepalm*

51 OH!

And Allen West was on F&F this morning and has taken Chris Wallaces's interview of DWS and turned it into talking points.

Obama: CEO who invested in Solyndra, etc...


Thank you, Chris Wallace.

52 President may·hem [ prézzid'nt máy hèm ] def. Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure

53 I picked Perry knowing full well he isn't going to get the nod. That being said I will vote for the Republican nominee with the exception of Ron Paul....

54 Who is your fantasy candidate?

Posted by: Lily at January 10, 2012 07:45 AM (igSv+)

Decker/Mendez 2012  (NSFW sort of)

55 I picked Perry knowing full well he isn't going to get the nod. That being said I will vote for the Republican nominee with the exception of Ron Paul....

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at January 10, 2012 08:15 AM (qmF3d)

+1

56 I will not vote for conspiracy-pandering Friend of Stormfront Paul.

57 I will not vote for conspiracy-pandering Friend of Stormfront Paul.

Posted by: nickless at January 10, 2012 08:16 AM (/McNP)

yep, this is why Paul = Obama landslide, even the most ABO type of people refuse to back Paul VS Obama

58

Steve Forbes?

 

59 I picked Perry knowing full well he isn't going to get the nod. That being said I will vote for the Republican nominee with the exception of Ron Paul....

Ron Paul, may I present the closed primary concept.

Later hater.

60 I'll be writing in St. Sarah in my primary and in November I'll be voting for Obama. Better that we get to impeach Obama and Biden than to lose slower with these RINO GOP RINOs. I didn't leave the Republican Party, the Republican Party left me. It's the RINO GOP's fault that they won't heed my messages. When I voted for Perot in '92 the RINO GOP RINOs responded next time around by giving me Bob Dole. That made me want to vomit because Dole was a RINO wimp. Better that we had Clinton to smack around than to lose slower with Dole. I was proven right, of course, because we got to send our message by impeaching Clinton, which meant that we won. When I voted Constitution Party in '00 the RINO GOP RINOs responded by doubling up on Bushleague in '04. That made me want to defecate because Bushleague was the worst RINO of all time. Michael Savage says so and he has a Ph.D. from Berkeley. When I voted for Tom Tancredo in the '08 primary the RINO GOP RINOs gave me John McCain. That made me up the dosages of my meds because McCain was the worst RINO of all time. Rush Limbaugh says so and Rush was the smartest true conservative in his journalism class at Southeast Missouri State University. Ever since I voted for Obama in '08 the RINO GOP RINOs have continued not listening to me. First they gave us Cryin' Boehner. Then Mickey Mouse McConnell. Then they torpedoed Dr. Cain's presidential bid. Better that the party be purged completely than to keep losing slower. Palin-O'Donnell, '16

61 Nothing pisses me off more than this strain of "f this I'm not voting for _______, I rather Obama win" crap. Fuck it assholes, that worked out great in 08 didn't it? All so you can indulge your vanity and have a little temper tantrum. You basically voted for Obama so you should be happy as hell at the job he's been doing so far.

62 I hear Mike Castle isn't doing anything. Nor is Christine O'Donnell Castle/O'Donnell 2012

63 My view is that thanks to never-ending Progressive (Dem/Socialist/Marxist) politicians, it may not be possible to restore the inherent beauty of our Constitutional government.  However, I am certain that if Obama is re-elected, all vestiges of Constitutional restraint will vanish--even IF we sweep the House, Senate, and State legislatures.
I think our "conservative" leaders have betrayed the very people that they are supposed to represent by not aggressively pursuing a solid conservative candidate, mostly because they have done quite well for themselves in the current establishment structure.
But I will not vote for Obama, and I will vote Republican (if only as a gesture of disapproval), because voting for Obama or not voting is worse for my grand-children!

64 Posted by: Totally Irrational Political Malcontent at January 10, 2012 08:18 AM (r2PLg)

HA!

From the very first sentence I knew something fishy was going on and immediately scrolled down to see who was screwing with us!

65 Romney will pick Kasich as vp. Make a difference?

66 Romney will pick Kasich as vp. Make a difference?

No.

67 #60; Good one, Steve Forbes I could whole heartedly support.

68 It's clear that Romney is going to be our nominee.  Everyone else has either shot their wad or is unelectable.

Obviously we have to let the process play out, but when that time comes, as distasteful as it is, we should quit attacking Romney and start focusing like a laser beam on Obama.  Anything else = Four More Years.

69 I'd vote for Donald Trump before I voted for Ron Paul.

70 I'm still stubbornly going with Perry, though it seems more and more pointless each day as I wait for some sign of him moving in the polls in SC (in a direction other than downward, I mean). After that, I guess I'm on to Newt with sorry ass Romney as second choice, unless Newt keeps sounding like an OWS drummer in which case I may just skip the Newt step and be done with it.

Yes, I will vote for whomever the GOP nominates, even with my teeth making little grinding noises as I vote. 1-3 (at least) Supreme Court vacancies coming up should be enough to get anyone out to vote against the SCoaMF.

71 I would take Gingrich heavily medicated on a leash with a minder, a gag and a 60-second delay. And marionette strings. Hell, why not go with my first choice Perry with those options since he's much easier on the eyes.

I don't believe we're actually going to end up with the Stepford Candidate. And that we had this pitiful field in a year like this. Way to go, Stupid Party.

72 "I'll be writing in St. Sarah in my primary and in November I'll be voting for Obama."

Posted by: Totally Irrational Political Malcontent at January 10, 2012 08:18 AM (r2PLg)

Hopefully, like your candidate, you won't finish what you started and Obama won't get the extra vote.

73 Perry lost my vote yesterday.  He joined Newt in bashing Romney for being a capitalist. 

74

I will vote for whoever the Republican nominee is, for three reasons:

1. Ruth

2. Bader

3. Ginsburg

She's out by 2013, and Obama must NOT be able to pick another terrible relatively young liberal ideologue to put on the Supreme Court. If worse came to worst and he got to pick TWO Supreme Court justices, he would change the ideological balance of the court for a generation to come. This must not happen. Romney sickens me, but his Supreme Court pick will be miles better than Obama's.

75 So, what happens if Mitt appoints (or hints at same) Christie for VP? Will that be enough red meat to get the dispirited base from 2010 out after the convention? Yeah, Coulter. That's EXACTLY what we need right now! NE Republicans sure to lose their home states.

76 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 08:19 AM (piMMO)

It was a bit too long, but the Palin/O'Donnell at the end was a nice touch.

77 Hopefully, like your candidate, you won't finish what you started and Obama won't get the extra vote.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at January 10, 2012 08:24 AM (nEUpB)

You know those comments are fake (and not particularly funny) right?

78 Let's see, possible choices: Lisa Murkowski Scott Brown Alfonse D'Amato

79 NE Republicans sure to lose their home states.

Posted by: Deety at January 10, 2012 08:25 AM (RvDoQ)

A Romney/Christie ticket would have a chance in NJ.

80 I'd vote for Donald Trump before I voted for Ron Paul.

That would make for an interesting poll in itself.

Who would you vote for before voting for Ron Paul:

Donald Trump
Christine O'Donnell
Michael Steele
Michael Savage
Judge Judy
Alec Baldwin
Daffy Duck

81

Yeah Pink, I like that mentality. You do not like how I vote.

It is my vote and it ain't going to anymore RINOs.

 

82 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at January 10, 2012 08:26 AM (TpXEI)

NO! Really?

83 We need an option for:  They all suck, may god have mercy on us all.

84

It is my vote and it ain't going to anymore RINOs.

Posted by: Harry at January 10, 2012 08:27 AM (QUjQI)

This is so why we need Loyalty Oaths.

85

Posted by: Mr Pink at January 10, 2012 08:18 AM (S5VTC)

How bout getting your own temper tantrum under control? Conservatives turned out big for McCain, there was no extensive stay-home-movement in '08. Thats a myth. McCain was a gruesome candidate who wasnt able to convince the center and thats why we lost.

86 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 08:27 AM (piMMO)

All but Alec Baldwin, who is even nuttier than Nor Luap.

87 If you vote on anything besides record you are mistaken,

My kitteh is staring at me

But  I will not crank up the cat food generator,

88 I'm voting for whoever has the best bumper stickers.

89 My kitteh is staring at me

But  I will not crank up the cat food generator,

You beast!

90 mr pink if you want to vote for laup nor go right ahead.....

91 Why I will vote for ABO, even if it is Ron Paul, in November 2012.

If Obama is re-elected, as Hrothgar wrote, there will be no holding him back from his destroy America plan.  Holder will be even worse, Obama's czars will go insane, his SCOTUS picks more radical, his tax policy more confiscatory.    In short, we, as a free country, would be finished.  And we will deserve it.  It will prove the majority of US voters want this to happen.

With a Republican there is a chance, just a small chance, we can slow down and maybe veer away from the canyon.

With Ron Paul I am counting on the idiots in Congress to rein in his worst tendencies regarding foreign policy.  A fool's hope, perhaps, but at least Obama would be out.

92 Boy what abunch of whine here this morning. Vote your candidate in the primary, vote the nominee in the general. Pr else you are supporting Obama. And Romneybots quit whining. As you all told me, its just politics. Grow a spine.

93

Mr. Pink, better to be pissed off than pissed on. Beck has it right. If Newt-Romney is the Republican candidate, a vote for, well, it's just racist. As a matter of fact, I am leaning toward suspending the damn elections and build a fence around the lot of em. Don't let any of em get away.

"Well, he should have armed himself if he's going to decorate his saloon with my friend."

94 85We need an option for: They all suck, may god have mercy on us all.

Posted by: DanInMN at January 10, 2012 08:27 AM (tfBaT)

9mm. I hear they taste great.

95 I will bet the begetter whines come from the Romenetbots.

96 Paul is Huff & Puff's and Kos' & #OWS' "Operation Chaos". You have to figure they're poking their slimy, shit-caked fingers in somewhere.

97

Beck has it right.

I stopped reading there

98 And Romneybots quit whining. As you all told me, its just politics. Grow a spine.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at January 10, 2012 08:31 AM (jiBep)

This is an attack on CAPITALISM ITSELF!!111

99 I'm voting for whoever has the best bumper stickers.

Do I get your vote?

100 If Romney wins the nomination and you don't vote for him, go to Hell.

This is how it is going to go down:  Either the electorate that was stupid enough to elect Obama is stupid enough to re-elect him, in which case it doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is, or all those Indies that voted for him last time stay home.  In that case, whoever is the GOP nominee is wins.  Unless!  If the GOP scares those faint-hearted Indies with a Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, or Newt Gingrich, maybe Obama wins another term. 

Pick your poison.

101 Paul is Huff & Puff's and Kos' & #OWS' "Operation Chaos". You have to figure they're poking their slimy, shit-caked fingers in somewhere.

Posted by: Dearth Vocoder at January 10, 2012 08:33 AM (B5hDL)

in Iowa he won the new registered folks going away, wonder why...

102 95 will munny that's a cute little meme.......and so accurate! newt and romney are EXACTLY like obama.....omg.....that is ridiculous.....if you buy into newt and romney are identical to obama.....you might be ron paul level insane.......

103 Jack Welch supports Romney?

Forbes supports Perry.

104 101I'm voting for whoever has the best bumper stickers.

Do I get your vote?

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 08:33 AM (piMMO)

Sorry, no linky: I saw one on the net, made one and it's on my car now: ADIOS PENDEJO (with the O logo in the last). I'm getting great responses here in S. Texas.

105 George Pataki 2012:  Without Charisma You've Got Nothing

Frist / Hastert 2012:  Excellence Through Leadership

Jeb 2012:  Because He's The Only Bush Who Hasn't Been President

106 Saw that scrunt from Florida Wasserman on FOX this AM. Anytime I get mad at my wife, I just think of her, and no matter what my wife did to piss me off, I forgive her. Hell after 28 years of marriage it's all my fault anyway

107 I have said many times, I will vote for whoever the Republican progressive party puts up there.
I wont like it but hey I voted for Johnny last time, so what the hell.

If I had to guess, Oblahbla wins either way, he either wins outright or he doesn't win but what he has done while in office takes the country down anyway and the R in office gets the blame for it.
Win win in his book.

108 Look I hate Mitt, but if you are sitting out cause of some position that you can stand anymore "moderate" candidates then you might as well go full retard and vote for Obama. That will learn those GOP bastards good wont it? To say there is no difference between Mitt and Obama is fucking retarded.

109 Just watching Barry and his loathsome wife booted out of the WH is reason enough to vote for anyone else. This is the conclusion to which I have come. Just picture them standing there when the new Prez is sworn in. That's inspiration enough.

110 Sorry, no linky: I saw one on the net, made one and it's on my car now: ADIOS PENDEJO (with the O logo in the last). I'm getting great responses here in S. Texas.

I like it! I bet you are getting a response.


I'm trying again.

111 @109....exactly. Our course is set, doesn't really matter who gets in there. The amusement factor is all we have going for us at this point.

112 To say there is no difference between Mitt and Obama is fucking retarded. Posted by: Mr Pink at January 10, 2012 08:41 AM (S5VTC) Ditto and that should be on a bumper sticker and stuck to the heads of some people

113 Santorum 2012:  Because Homos and Aborters Shouldn't Vote Anyway

Palin / Bachmann 2012:  When Credibility Simply Doesn't Matter Anymore

Perry 2012:  I Left My Heart in Des Moines

114 I hate Mitt, but unlike Obama, there is not a doubt in my mind that he truly loves this country.

115 Fuck Romney and fuck the GOP. That is all. And good morning.

116 Paul 2012:  Because I Want Obama Again

Romney 2012:  His Mind It Is A-Changin'

Newt 2012:  When Grabbing At Straws Is All You Have

117 Jeb 2012:  Because He's The Only Bush Who Hasn't Been President

Well, there's always Neil, but it seems you have overlooked the future of the Republican Bush Party.

118 #50 Oh, STFU! Mr. Pink! Strawman much? I am NOT FUCKING voting for Romney or Paul or Sanctorum in my CLOSED Republican PRIMARY. Says absolutely nothing about who I will vote for (or more importantly, man phone banks for, canvass neighborhoods the general.) Ooooh!!! Who can beat Obama? Who cares? He's a fucking symptom. Get rid of him you have dealt with the smelly oozing part of the wound. Worry more about the quiet green parts on the limbs you can see that mean systematic poisoning and, ultimately, death to the host

119 davidinvirginia, why will the SCOTUS appointments matter with Mittens calling Sununu to find a couple of more Souters

120 A bit long, but this is what I think

I Couldn't Beat McCain In A Primary, But I'm Your Man to Beat Obama!

Romney 2012

121 @113
Yep, I hope I am wrong but I have that feeling in the pit of my stomach that tells me trouble is just down the road.
Not much we can do about it, so we will just have to hope the pain is at least bearable.

122 If the GOP scares those faint-hearted Indies with a Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, or Newt Gingrich, maybe Obama wins another term.

Independents generally don't like guys who fire people.  When Barry starts digging up people laid off at Bain for attack ads, Indies aren't going to be inclined to vote for Mitt.

So, why should we go to the mattresses for Mitt in the general as opposed to some other candidate?  Why is the hill we die on Mitt's record at Bain?

123 A Nøøt Gingrych once bit my sister ... No realli!

124 MrPink, Provide an example of something Mittens has DONE, not SAID he would do, that is effectively different then Obama. The only difference is that with Mittens you get a slow gramscian rot vs a pliven pilliaging.

125 I have that feeling in the pit of my stomach that tells me trouble is just down the road.

I keep hoping it's diverticulitis, but I'm afraid it's another Obama victory looming ahead.

126 Who the hell is Jean?

127 MrPink, Provide an example of something Mittens has DONE, not SAID he would do, that is effectively different then Obama. The only difference is that with Mittens you get a slow gramscian rot vs a pliven pilliaging. Posted by: Jean at January 10, 2012 08:52 AM (ilc7b) Besides not wanting to destroy the US Military?

128 The guy who shot your horse

129

Let me just say I love all you guys because I know you would not be here if you did not love America.

My point is that right now America is sick on an intellectual level, we are following some sick thinking as a nation. We are also sick on a practical level, too much debt, government wanting to control everybody's life, etc.

It is not going to get better with Obama, but it is not going to get better with Rinos either. We need to start convincing our neighbors and others that it means something to be an American. We have let the liberals get away with the schtick about how horrible America is for too long. It is time for some soul searching.

130 Interesting spelling for a dude.

131

Just picture them standing there when the new Prez is sworn in. That's inspiration enough.

 

Genius.  Moves us from the abstract to the concrete.  Assuming they show up, of course.

132 Besides not wanting to destroy the US Military?

Actually holding a job and creating employment for others?

133 Want, said, etc. - what has Mittens done to convince you he will be strong, all those years standing cold watches in Korea, or that pilot training?

134 119 Well, there's always Neil, but it seems you have overlooked the future of the Republican Bush Party.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 08:46 AM (piMMO)

Yeah, resurrecting the Nixonian Five O'Clock Shadow Look will accomplish wonders...

135 Non de geurre: Jean Parisot de la Valette

136 what has Mittens done to convince you he will be strong, all those years standing cold watches in Korea, or that pilot training? Posted by: Jean at January 10, 2012 08:56 AM (ilc7b) he may not having been doing that, but I also bet he was not hanging out with a bunch of black radicals and Black Jew/White hating preachers smoking dope

137 it is not going to get better with Rinos either

OK, fine, but any way we can we have some smaller government, lower taxes & strong national security type "authentic" conservatives without all the moral proselytizing about homosexuality and abortion?

138 Was this a little Romney brunch, Did I piss in the teapot

139 Want, said, etc. - what has Mittens done to convince you he will be strong, all those years standing cold watches in Korea, or that pilot training?

Posted by: Jean at January 10, 2012 08:56 AM (ilc7b)

Yep, maybe there is a risk involved, but the isnt a risk better than the known rotten option that is Obama? There is an argument to stay home in nov, but its not a policy argument.

140

.....you might be ron paul level insane.......phoenixgirl

Maybe. But I really am pulling for Perry and his nuclear option...secession. Isn't it clear the beltway is filled with SCOMFs? Let's roll.

141 I want Huntsman.  And Obama, of course.  But if we're restricting this to the GOP, then Huntsman.  But mainly Obama.

142 Is it too early to tell someone to eff off?

143 He was hanging around a bunch of rich, megalomaniacs who think they can run the world. Better clothes, same people

144

Although IÂ’ve been very subtle about it, itÂ’s time to admit IÂ’ve been mildly pro-Palin for some time.  Even with this shocking revelation, itÂ’s certain that I will contribute, work for and vote for whoever the republican nominee is.

Anyone still harboring the stupid position of “I won’t vote for ______” or “I’ll stay home” is as bad as an Obama voter.

145 We are a stubborn group of morons.

146 Look fuck Mitt in the primary I get it but in the general that's another question. Mitt doesn't have to convince me of shit, I know he has not done the following He did not call me a bitter clinger Did not call me a racist Did not bow to dictators Did not increase our deficit by 5 trillion Did not spend a trillion dollars on shovel ready jobs and them laugh as he says there weren't any Did not spend a trillion dollars on a jobs bill and have unemployment go UP over 1%

147 Anyone still harboring the stupid position of “I won’t vote for ______” or “I’ll stay home” is as bad as an Obama voter.

Have you been introduced to Jean?

148 @131
I hear what your saying.
A person has to vote their conscious, that's all anyone can do.

149

102 If Romney wins the nomination and you don't vote for him, go to Hell.

Never had to sell things for living, have you, 'bot? I've added your post to a long list of things to hate about Romneycare.

{oh, and...no sale}

 

150 I hope no one on here thinks im a Romney booster, fuck Romney. He's light years ahead of stupid fucking Obama too, and you can always primary the bastard or pressure him from the right. With Obama we get four more years of shit coupled with not having to run for reelection leaving him unfettered to piss on the country

151 The issue is that the base needs to demand Romney irrevocably come to us. So far he hasn't. Granted with Romney it only a matter of time before he flops, but now we have people on the Right not willing to make that inevitable flip painful. They are wearing blinders, that only let them see the safest path to victory.

152 MrPink, you honestly think Mittens would have vetoed the Stimulus?

153 Interesting that the poll indicates Perry is preferred, in spite of the hammering he's taken here.

  My concern, as noted before, is will ABO have enough coattails to pull the eventual nominee to victory?  And will dissatisfaction affect voter turnout?  Personally, I'll pull the lever unless it is Paul, then it will be a write-in. But the down ticket will still get a vote.

154 This has to be the toughest choice of any election I can remember.I have serious doubts and trust issues with two of the top candidates, one seems to be a bit slow in brain functions, one is simply off the chart on national security, one seems like a creepy guy who I really know nothing about and one seems pretty good but doesn't appear to stand a prayer. Those would be Romney,Gingrich/Perry/Paul/Huntsman/Santorum. In the primary, I will probably go Santorum. I will vote for anything except the full bore Bolshevik whoever wins the primary. Our only hope is that if Romney or Ginrigrich become the next president, they will lead in a way that will dispel all of their previous deeds in an effort to become a second term president. If they come in and go Obama light, it wont matter who the president will be in 2016.

155 Bob Dole 2012:  Experience Matters, And Bob Dole Has Lots and Lots Of It

Mitch Daniels 2012:  Let My Wife Decide For You

Whoever The MSM Picks 2012:  What, You Want To Lose Your Contraception?

156

Two reasons I cannot vote for Romney:

1.  Romneycare

2. "I'm open to a VAT Tax"

A slow boat to hell is still a boat to hell.

 

157 Two reasons I cannot vote for Romney

Dear Lily,

Thank you for your support.

Sincerely,
Barack Obama

158

<i>Who can beat Obama?

Who cares?

He's a fucking symptom.

Get rid of him you have dealt with the smelly oozing part of the wound.

Worry more about the quiet green parts on the limbs you can see that mean systematic poisoning and, ultimately, death to the host </i>

 

Dude - that was poetic.

159 I'm falling off the Perry train. I want to stay on but after the Bain comment and hearing he's behind Buddy in NH polls, I just don't know what the point is.

160 Lot of people selling tickets on that boat Lily, they seem convinced it is the only boat in the river.

161 @65 Hrothgar, "inherent beauty of our Constitutional government", seems to me a bit much. I think it is ugly as sin. If you meant inerrant, I would offer the same critique. But more so! For sheer aesthetics, you really can't go wrong with Plato's Republic. And, but for weirdos like Friedman & the power players in N Korea, I don't see too many advocates for that sort of

162 I can't imagine Gingrich as the nominee. He'd never make it until November without imploding in some sort of embarrassing scandal. I've known a couple guys who were real assholes, constantly cheating on their wives. They end up lying to everybody, not just their spouses. It's like living a double life, and I never really trusted those guys no matter what they said. Same vibe from Newt.

163 I can't imagine Gingrich as the nominee. He'd never make it until November April without imploding in some sort of embarrassing scandal.

FIFY

164 I want the guy who was in a statistical dead heat with Romney in the early returns from Dixville Notch.

165 Error #501: invalid variable array. Insufficient memory available for indefinite loop. Pop, crack, sizzle.

166

Thank you for your support.

Sincerely,
Barack Obama
 

I know Romney is (slightly) better than Obama, but, for heaven's sake - he's awful!  VAT Tax?  Really?  

We've already gone so far down the 'collective' road, we may not be able to come back.   Reagan said government health care would be the end of our liberty, and I think he was right.  And the VAT tax will help pay for it.  Until we collapse in on ourselves, that is.  Romney is just the follow-on to what Obama started.    

And don't blame me if you decide to nominate a Big Government lovin' guy and I just can't get on board. 

Anyone know where I can go if I'm yearning to breath free?   I'd love to stay here and fight for freedom, but (reading this thread), I may be nearly alone in my fight.

167 Nice straw poll you've got there.  I voted three times.

168 Lily I don't want to nominate his ass it's just I it happens he's better than Obama. Fuck I'd vote for Sanotrum over Romney. Hell even Gingrich would get my vote.

169 OK, Charlie Brown! I'm looking for good news. How many electoral votes does NJ have? Do we need to court them? What makes you think Christie can deliver them?

170 Not voting for ( insert name ) because he doesn't pass your puriy test is giving approval for: 1) A GUARANTEED horrendous new supreme court justice to replace RBG when she retires 2) Even more LOONEY left czars Utah we have now ( check DiscoverTheNetworks site under Holdren... He makes Soylent Green look like an OPTOMISTIC future) 3) right now, " Teh One " has been comparatively restrained in his actions such as the 3 NLRB & FinReg appointments + I'd be here all day if I went through any more likely disasters that WILL happen if SCFOAMF gets another term If he gets elected in Nov he will be absolutely unrestrained. Impeachment takes time, more time than it will take for him to destroy this fucking country. Staying at home is fucking moronic

171

Not voting for ( insert name ) because he doesn't pass your puriy test is giving approval for

Wanting a candidate who doesn't support the VAT Tax is not a very high bar.  Purity test indeed. 

Nominating a liberal and under the "R" banner and blaming me for not voting for him is what is moronic. 

172

I'm in a time dilation--is it still December 2011?  Gingrich is going to slam Obama in the debates.  NOOOOOOOOOOT!!!

173 McCain was a gruesome candidate who wasnt able to convince the center and thats why we lost.

No, McCain wasn't historic.  That's why Obama won.

174 davidinvirginia, why will the SCOTUS appointments matter with Mittens calling Sununu to find a couple of more Souters

Posted by: Jean at January 10, 2012 08:48 AM (ilc7b)

1) Because Bork is advising him on that, not Sununu (who once served me a cup of coffee while I was waiting in line to see Poppa Bush at an event in NH...I did NOT tip him...what a smug twit that one is.)

2) No matter how bad/squishy/distasteful some Romney nominees might be to conservatives, they will still be orders of magnitude better than any hardcore leftist the SCoaMF will serve up. And that's what he will up, and the GOP, majority in the Senate or not, won't have the balls to say no to him.

What matters is getting the Bastard-in-Chief out of office, whichever Republican, good, bad or indifferent (I'd love for us to get "indifferent" at this point), replaces him.

175 A Conservative Legislature will thwart Obama or Romney. We are stuck with poor choices for POTUS, but we can compensate with good outcomes in congressional races. It is our last hope to make the inevitable Collapse survivable and something from which a new Republic can arise.

176 I take that back.  He was gruesome and unable to convince the center.  But....again...he wasn't historic.  I knew plenty of people super excited to be voting for the first black president.  Eleventy!

177 @11 You stole my crappy joke name!

178 argh...should be "...will serve up..." in 176 above...wish I could get my fingers and my brain to cooperate on this typing thing...

179 @178: Also, remember that the center is full of a lot of people who are kind of squishy anyway. When you factor in Bush-fatigue, the fact that McCain offered nothing substantially different (except for Palin, whom his own staff and the media immediately undermined) only worked against him in competition with Mr. Hope and Change. That kind of reasoning is why I think Romney might have an edge in the general. He's not going to rile up the mild Liberals and more conservative Democrats, like Newt or Santorum would, and his "moderate" label might appeal to the squishy center enough to propel them to the polls out of Obama fatigue.

180 NO RON PAUL???...is this some kind of JOOOOOOO conspiracy????

181 Obama will get only about half of the States he won in 2008 if the GOP nominee is not teh crazy.

182

why I think Romney might have an edge in the general.

The dems will tear him apart in the general  - and the media will work overtime to help paint him as 'icky' the way they did Palin - only the particulars will be different.   And his 'base' is only luke warm.  Romney will lose. 

There is still time to pick a better candidate, but I'm not sure that person is on the above list.

183 @184 But the fact that this will happen to any Republican candidate does not necessarily mean that it will have the same effect regardless of who that candidate is.

184  could vote for Santorum or Gingrich, but if Romney, Paul or Huntsman get the nomination, they are going to have to do it without me. I am not voting for any of them. I did all that with McCain.

Posted by: Harry at January 10, 2012 07:54 AM (QUjQI)

That is kinda dumb. Your logic is that because you voted for McCain to try to keep Oboobshit out and McCain lost, you won't vote for the Repub candidate this time around to try to get the guy out now that he has DEMONSTRATED how dangerous for the country he is? I don't want Mit either, as my choice. But I will not stay home and let Obamamomjeans waltz into the white house to spend four solid years ruling by executive order. I will go down fighting and anyone who is not willing to do that is a parasite anyway.

185 Also, the people Romney loses in the base due to his appeal to the center are still might result in a net gain, since lost conservative votes stay home, whereas lost center votes are more likely to vote Obama again on account of squishiness.

186 Why should a Moron in a deeply blue State vote for Romney?

187 What's the matter with you, morons?
Romney polling ahead of Gingrich?!  WTF!

188 Why should a Moron in a deeply blue State vote for Romney?

In the primary or in the general?

There's a difference.

189 In the primary or in the general? There's a difference. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 10:14 AM (piMMO) In the general. Sorry for not being clear on that.

190 No, McCain wasn't historic.  That's why Obama won.

You mean, black?

191 @192 Black AND Liberal. Conservative blacks are not allowed to be historic.

192 In the general. Sorry for not being clear on that.

Because your options are, at that point, to vote for Obama or against him. Romney, despite the shrieking around here, is no Obama.

He has stated he will repeal Obamacare.
He will not dismantle the military.
He does know how to run a successful company.
He does have executive experience.
He is, by all accounts, a decent God-fearing family man.

Those who reach to draw parallels between he and Obama simply cannot be pleased.

If Romney is the nominee I will not only cast my vote for him, I will work my ass off on the local campaign. And I'll sleep like a baby each night while doing so.

193 Still Perry. 

I think my back up is Newt.  I've seen no positive case for Santorum and Newt at least has a good tax plan. 

194 More and more I can't stomach Newt. If Perry drops out before Florida, and I think he would be foolish to do so, I will vote for Romney.

195 If Romney is the nominee I will not only cast my vote for him, I will work my ass off on the local campaign. And I'll sleep like a baby each night while doing so. Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at January 10, 2012 10:20 AM (piMMO) Even in a deeply blue State like NY or CA?

196 alexthechick swayed me over to Team Meteor.

Where's my choice for that?

I've got the t-shirt -- I'm ready to go.

197 RESIST WE EMOTICON!!!!!

198 Newt was my man for his debating prowess. But then he went and did everything I hoped he wouldn't by going negative and shooting inside the tent. And I don't care for schoolyard arguments that "Romney's people started it". So what? Is that kind of rejoinder really supposed to appeal to someone who was interested initially in the maturity and substance approach?

199 The Harpie DWS was on Fox and Friends this AM. Now I know why I left the reservation and became a politically conservative Ortho Jew.

200

Votes count. Gallup sez that independents now out number voters in both parties, 40% indie, Dems 31%, Pubbies 27%.

Almost anyone can beat Obama this year...but... Don't marginalize the votes that you need, folks...

 If you guys screw this one up, you get what's comin' to ya.

 

 (These days, I believe that Pubbies are taking us to the same destination as Dems, but at a more sedate pace. Dems are driving us into a concrete wall at 200mph, with no brakes and bald tires.)

201 It's important to vote for whoever is the Republican nominee in the General regardless if the state you are in is a lock, one way or the other. Unfortunately the popular vote has become more important in a number of intangible ways.

202 @196
I find equating Mitt Romney with Capitalism a bit of a stretch.  Newt, Huntsman, and Perry are taking Romney to task -- something they are able to do because Mitt leaves the door open by talking about being unemployed, being afraid of getting a pink slip, and liking to fire people/companies. 

I would have appreciated this same level of outrage over Romney's scare-mongering on Social Security.  Had that happened, way back when, the entire primary process might have gone differently.  Instead, Romney was allowed to go Democrat on Perry with a complete pass (from many of the same people who are so offended by the attacks on Mitt today) and we wound up with a negative campaign.

203 @46 - Your a moron - Romney is not Obama.

Romney is the likely nominee, so you might as well put up a yard sign for Obama now.

204 Even in a deeply blue State like NY or CA?

Well, I admit to missing (somehow!) that part of your question.

In a blue state, I think there are many lefties who are closer to center and those folks must be humiliated to admit that they voted for Obama the first go around. He has been far more radical than what many Americans thought he would be and they will look for an alternative. They will not vote for a Perry or  Newt, but they will vote for Romney. And, not because he's "Obama lite". I believe it's because he appears rational and moderate. Which, to us, is a nasty word, but to them is like catnip.

Despite my adoration of Perry, I do believe that Romney will draw voters from the left.

205 NJ has 15 electoral votes.

206 @195 - Why Newt???

I can understand Santorum, and even though he has no chance, Perry is growing on me (I hate his identity politics but love the gun talk).  Newt though has a bad history and instead of distancing himself  - he has gone all OWS.  The guy who ended up breaking the very contract with america he created, a couple of marriage vows, and now his promise - yes promise - not to go negative.  He has gone from focusing on the presidency to focusing on his petty revenge.  The man who declared weeks ago that he was for sure going to be the nominee is now the petulant boy whining about how mean Mitt is - and boy oh boy is Mitt going to get it now.  So much for that promise.

Mr Newt has gone petty and OWS.

207 Despite my adoration of Perry, I do believe that Romney will draw voters from the left.

He really only needs to flip 4-5 million votes to win.  Between the people pissed off at Obama, those who won't vote again because they didn't get their hope & change, and middle class and older whites who actually like Romney (my otherwise Dem in-laws are voting for him), he can probably accomplish that. Grim as this all is, victory in 2012 is certainly do-able if we hang tight and focus on the end game.

208 HillBuzz has another article contra all the whining grannies ("If you attack Bain Capital, you're attacking capitalism just like the Marxists and OWS!!"): The fact that Bain Capital shut down a steel mill in KC pretty much means Obama will win Ohio.

But you all keep sticking your head in the sand and pretend that Romney can win the Presidency. (Or that he is conservative.)
Keep shouting everyone down that we're the bad guys here for daring suggest there are huge problems with Romney's record.

In the year when "generic Republican" beats Obama handily, Romney will be worse as he will be "typical Republican" and "stereotypical Republican."

209 Where is Buddy Roehmer(sp?) on this poll

210

polynikes - Texan for Romney at January 10, 2012 10:29 AM

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^

211 208 @195 - Why Newt???

I can understand Santorum, and even though he has no chance, Perry is growing on me (I hate his identity politics but love the gun talk).  Newt though has a bad history and instead of distancing himself  - he has gone all OWS. 

---

Of the remaining candidates, Newt has the best tax plan, he has done the most for actual conservatism (even with the mistakes along the way), and he has the experience inside the Beltway to actually accomplish a few good things.  He is a very distant second for me behind Perry. 

I think one difference between how I pick someone to support (and by that I don't just mean voting for him/her but also giving to the campaign and making the case for them) and how many seem to do it is that I really am less caught up in the campaigning aspect of it.  I really just focus on the person's record of what they've accomplished and how consistent their principles have been so I can evaluate if their vision to the country seems likely to come to pass should they be elected. 

I wish it had been a positive, issues-oriented campaign season, but we lost that quite a long time ago back when Bachmann (who was not my candidate ever) was smeared over her headaches and Perry was lied about over social security (and many other examples). 

So the effect on me of all this negative campaigning is to ignore most of it.  I care more about how the candidates react to the mud being slung than I do to the charges themselves, most of which have been big nothing-burgers. 

212 @210
Legal Insurrection does as well. 

213 @213 I agree Newt comes up with some good ideas and can speak.  He also comes up with some horrible ideas and has issues with his temperment.  I thought he was done with his whiny "Anakin Skywalker" personality, but age has not tempered him.  Newt is causing a great deal of self inflicted harm - but better now than against Obama.

214 Fuck your rigged poll. Paul first, Johnson second. All elite bags of shit, bankers, serial cheaters, patriot act voting bastids, what a crew. Oh happy day for us.

215 @216
Johnson announced on the 28th of last month that he was going to run as a libertarian. 

216

Fuck your rigged No Nazi, no White Supremacist poll.

 

FIFY

217 215 @213 I agree Newt comes up with some good ideas and can speak.  He also comes up with some horrible ideas and has issues with his temperment.
----
Well, I said he was a distant second.

Look, I think most of them have issues with their temperament.  In my opinion, Perry actually has handled the attacks on him (many of which were grossly unfair and inaccurate) and his self-inflicted gaffes with the most grace.  What I've seen of Romney's reaction to even minor push back is troubling.  Huntsman does appear to hold conservatives in disdain, as does Romney to a lesser extent.  Santorum also had a whiny quality.

To me Newt is abrasive, but I can handle that.... otherwise I wouldn't hang out at this place!

218 Wow, this is rich:

Luntz tells his gathered throng that Governor Perry is George W. Bush “without the intellect.”  Then, upon discovering that there are cameras present, his demeanor suddenly shifts and he makes a sheepish attempt to play it off as though heÂ’s “just messinÂ’ with you guys” before ordering the person shooting the footage to “take your suit and leave.”

219 Damnit Y-Not!

Every person who sees that needs to raise holy hell with Fox News and with Sean Hannity!

That mutha...!

220 Fuck This.

221 Fuck This

222 @221
Yeah.

I've given up on Fox and really most media, frankly.  Occasionally I check out what Rush has to say, but other than that I take about 15 minutes of local news each day (skipping past the national politics section) and read blogs and opinion mags on-line. 

There's not hing for it.  We can't do anything about it except try to inform ourselves and share that information with others.  I'm disgusted by how things have gone down this primary season. 

223 I'm not fool enough to support any of those clowns.

224 Keep shouting everyone down that we're the bad guys here for daring suggest there are huge problems with Romney's record.

In the year when "generic Republican" beats Obama handily, Romney will be worse as he will be "typical Republican" and "stereotypical Republican."

Posted by: Jimmuy

This is exactly what the Romney shills were saying when Romney was going hard after Perry's claim that he wanted to abolish Social Security and that Social Security was worse than a Ponzi scheme.  True, unpopular with the general electorate, the sort of things Democrats attack, the sort of things Republicans shouldn't.

Congratulations, you're an unprincipled hypocrite.

225

 find equating Mitt Romney with Capitalism a bit of a stretch.  Newt, Huntsman, and Perry are taking Romney to task --

They are taking him to task for practicing capitalism.  It's not like they're just hurling general insults at the guy, who happens to be a capitalist.  They're criticizing him for taking over failing firms and firing a bunch of people in an effort to turn them around.

Cheap socialist populism.  Indefensible.

Don't put your brain on hold just because someone we don't like is being attacked.  Fight the ape instinct to make it all about us v. them.  Embrace the human instinct to care about right and wrong, truth and error.

226 Ya'all are looking at ham sandiwch. I'd suggest you take a close look at rueben. Yummy corned beef, swiss cheese, sourkraut and thousand island dressing. You just can't beat it.

227 # 206 They will not vote for a Perry or  Newt, but they will vote for Romney. And, not because he's "Obama lite". I believe it's because he appears rational and moderate. Which, to us, is a nasty word, but to them is like catnip.

Rational and moderate and competent. They'll never admit it, but I suspect many Dems-- even some who sympathize with OWS ideas-- feel genuine unease and anxiety about there being "no adult in the room" at the White House, the sense that our country is currently a rudderless ship-- or the guy who's supposed to be at the wheel is just completely out of it. Even NYT readers are cognizant of the fact (try though they might to repress it) that this administration is a mess; the Daley resignation is yet another sign.

I believe a significant number of Dems & independents would rather have an evil (but super competent) Gordon Gecko figure in the White House than... someone who just doesn't know what he's doing, a clueless poseur who might very well sink the ship with all of us in it. They'll vote for Romney, even if they never admit to anyone that they did.

I'm reminded of a remark which I think Bill Maher (?!) made shortly after 9/11 during his show (which might have been Politically Incorrect then?)-- though it seems so improbable, so inconceivable now that maybe I'm just making it up, or confusing him with someone else. He was referring to the people around Bush-- Cheney, Rumseld et al, those dark sinister figures, villains to the left-- and expressed something like a feeling of reassurance or security that, evil though they might be, these were "grown ups". Maybe the sense of their evilness-- like shady CIA evilness-- even added to the feeling of security. Am I making this up? Does anyone remember anything like that? Anyway, that stuck with me.

Obviously that feeling didn't last, but the point remains. Even if I'm completely misremembering it or it never happened, I think that's a feeling that Dems & lefties can genuinely have at certain moments, when things feel especially precarious. Better to have an evil guy for president whose administration/ advisors know what they're doing, who can face crises with maturity & discretion, who's calm & collected at the wheel (even if it's being steered in the wrong direction), than... an ideologically correct and well-intentioned SCOAMF.

228 216 Fuck your rigged poll. Posted by: Deus Ex Machina at January 10, 2012 10:55 AM (GOG1H)   OK!

229

226 -

I'd still like to know what Mitt actually DID at Bain.  It's not a condemnation of capitalism to ask to see his record, and if the things he did were defensible, then he would be better served by defending them, rather than getting all huffy that anyone would dare to ask. 

Perhaps more importantly though, what in his record would suggest he's going to be good for the capitalistic system?  We know he likes forcing people to pay for stuff the government thinks we should.  That doesn't sound very capitalist to me. 

230 RON PAUL!

231 I, too, would like to learn more about the candidates and have questions....but unfortunately, these things have devolved into gotcha moments and food fights. I actually like Newt, but his and Perry's running with the I LIKE TO FIRE statement as if he meant firing people from their JOBS, is re-DICK!

232

226 -

I'd still like to know what Mitt actually DID at Bain.  It's not a condemnation of capitalism to ask to see his record, and if the things he did were defensible, then he would be better served by defending them, rather than getting all huffy that anyone would dare to ask. 

Newt and Perry aren't "asking to see his record," they're attacking it. 

Perhaps more importantly though, what in his record would suggest he's going to be good for the capitalistic system?  We know he likes forcing people to pay for stuff the government thinks we should.  That doesn't sound very capitalist to me. 

Posted by: Burt TC

Sure, so attack that instead.  Don't attack a businessman for firing people to turn companies around.

233 I don't see, "I don't give a fuck, isn't this shit over with yet, when can I vote against Obama?"

234 [Ordinary disclaimer noting that Paul is not on the list because the Ronulans spam polls and we don't want the StormFront people over here anyway.]

LOL...Should be called a "straw-man poll" instead.

235 235 I don't see, "I don't give a fuck, isn't this shit over with yet, when can I vote against Obama?"

Posted by: devilish at January 10, 2012 12:34 PM (3eTJD)

Yep.

I don't like any of them really, but will vote for anyone of them over 0BamA. (Except Luap Nor)

236 here at AoSHQ when the world gets too big and scary... we just shrink the world.

237 which one gets to hold the bag when fit hits shan with Iran?  don't know how to to tiny url's, but RT has an article up about Georgia and US preps

238 I've given up.  I was all for Herman Cain.  Then I was all for Rick Perry (and after this fiasco, I'm not even sure I can support him for governor his next time up).  Then I was all for Newt.  It's been one kick in the balls after another.

I've decided I'm going to bite the bullet and support Romney.  Everyone else has proven themselves crazy (Newt, Paul), stupid (Perry, Cain), or both (Bachmann, Santorum).

239 ^{186  could vote for Santorum or Gingrich, but if Romney, Paul or Huntsman get the nomination, they are going to have to do it without me. I am not voting for any of them. I did all that with McCain.}

^{Posted by: Harry at January 10, 2012 07:54 AM (QUjQI)}

That is kinda dumb. Your logic is that because you voted for McCain to try to keep Oboobshit out and McCain lost, you won't vote for the Repub candidate this time around to try to get the guy out now that he has DEMONSTRATED how dangerous for the country he is? I don't want Mit either, as my choice. But I will not stay home and let Obamamomjeans waltz into the white house to spend four solid years ruling by executive order. I will go down fighting and anyone who is not willing to do that is a parasite anyway.

Posted by: giftogab at January 10, 2012 10:13 AM (SPVfc)

THIS.  IN SPADES.

240 See these results make sense.  A few RINOs and a lot of people who care more about Perry's records.

Can we just all move to Texas and secede now? 

241 Let's just have Harry Reid bless Obama as Emperor. That way we won't have to worry about an election. It'll save alot of money too.

242 Ron Paul

243 Ron Paul!

244 Unless!  If the GOP scares those faint-hearted Indies with a Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, or Newt Gingrich, maybe Obama wins another term. 

Pick your poison.

Posted by: Jimbo at January 10, 2012 08:34 AM (O3R/2)

Right, everyone except your personal choice is too "Scary" to win.  And we should trsut you on this.

I'd argue with you; but look over there; a mouse.

If you're so damned terrified of Gingrich, Perry, etc. then clearly you're standing on a table screaming at the top of your lungs at the mere concept of a mouse... which does seem to clarify how impressive your opinion is.

Unbunch your panties and quit worrying that the 85 pound guy in the wheelchair with the inhaler is going to beat you up and take your lunch money... and quit expecting everyone else to be as panicky and whiny as you.

245 wow, you left out Ron Paul, again.  If he runs as a third party candidate he'll reek havoc on the election along with Gary Johnson and probably the Donald

44% for perry which is sort of shocking since people are saying he might do so poorly in New Hampshire that he won't be invited to the next debate..

246 Hey Perry people, Buck up!

Don't give up just yet. Romney may be the first non-incumbent to sweep the first two states, but the Tea Party hasn't even been heard from yet. The South has not been heard from yet. This isn't 2008, this is 2012. Gingrich and Santorum are off the list. Put some faith in Perry. Maybe he'll reward us. Worst comes to worst it's Romney. In which case, make sure we take back Congress and stuff it with Tea.

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251 I'm unenthusiastic but OK with Romney, but would much prefer Perry.  Face it, none of them are going to appoint an AG like Holder, run guns to Mexico, or pull out the stops for Obamacare.  Even Mitt the squish.

I'd vote for Jimmy Carter before I'd vote for Obama.  He takes fewer vacations and is less of a hypocrite.