1 you know, terrorists are lees likely to attack cities than rual areas because they may get caught.

2 did you know that gangs only exist in the country-side? it's true! if they were in cities, the cops would be able to catch them.

3 I actually read that 1000 word piece of retarded. I want those 2 minutes of my life back.

4
Refuted in three words.

Public Housing Projects

5 I'm gonna stand back.  You never know when this weapons grade stoopid's gonna randomly explode.

6 higher density helps reduce street crime in an urban environment in two ways

Hysterical.
I guess he means except for LA, DC, Philly, and Detroit.

7 Of course he's smarter than you. He's assaulted, and the first thing out of his mouth is about "policy". ... Aye, yi, yi!

8

I think he's got it completely backwards.

Wasn't there some study decades ago where they created an environment for rats that allowed them X amount of space per animal, then reduced the space by X-1 and observed, at some point, rapid escalation in antisocial behavior?

9

I live outside a rural community in Central Ohio and there's never been a single homicide since the founding of the village in 1838.

Petty crimes here and there, yes, but that's it.

A neighborhood in the country is measured in square miles, not apartment buildings.

10

 

Refuted in one word:

Rio

11 Kitty Genovese, anyone?

12 The other is that if a given patch of land has more citizens, that means it can also support a larger base of police officers.

This is a valid point, but the anonymity actor greatly overrides the increased volume of police officers because, as the saying goes, "where's a cop when you need one?"  London is one of the most heavily monitored places in the world via camera feeds and has a considerably sized police force, but it still a hot-bed of crime.

13 Dude..  Population density had nothing to do with it.

The reason those guys jumped you is because you are Matthew Yglesias...

In other words.   It was assault, but it was justified assault.

14 Plus country music keeps us gun-clingers calm.

15 As (okay, for the sake of formality, if) crime rates increase as the economy declines, expect to see more nonsense of this kind used to peddle the New Urbanism (and no, I won't grace them with a link). Gotta get you into those Bauhaus-blocks with gingerbread and latte stands somehow, after all. Don't like latte? Don't worry -- that stuff won't be around long.

16 That is why I moved to Rape City. Rapists are notorious tattletales.

17 Here is a liberal so stupid he remains a liberal after being mugged.

18 Seems to me that we could entertain ourselves by determining just how many ways this guy is wrong. Everybody gets a point for a new way. We could go for hours.

19

One is that in a higher density city, any given street is less likely to be empty of passersby at any given time.

And we all know that passersby will ALWAYS help you.

Idiot.

And yet still smarter than Newt Gingrich, according to Ann Althouse.

20
He ignores the obvious explanation......

Punk #1: I know that guy from somewhere

Punk #2: Really?

Punk #1: Yeah, that's Matthew Yglesias. I once read one of his columns, and I always wanted to slap him upside the head for exposing me to that much stupid sauce.

Punk #2: Here, let me help you.

21 From the comments:

"As it happened both times my assaults involved two very tall dark-skinned men and I've struggled with the very stereotypical but powerful "OH NOES BIG BLACK GUYS" reaction ever since."

I love the modern "progressives"

22 Cities are superior because they have more welfare recipients per square mile than anywhere else. Or something like that.

23  The other is that if a given patch of land has more citizens, that means it can also support a larger base of police officers.

And there in lies the fallacy of this dudes argument.   Rural folks... and I count myslef as one.... dont think that somebody else is responsible for their personal protection.  Try breaking into any of the farmsteads I grew up around and your likely to get spleen full of #4 shot or a rather large 30-06 hole in yer noggin.

24

Punk Upstanding Citizen #1: I know that guy from somewhere...

FIFY

25

The point being, Yglesias has it exactly backward.

And that pretty much sums up the typical libtard's train of thought.

26

More people?  More criminals!

More criminals?  Less crime!

Totally awesome observation, Yglesias.  This is why there are so many more crimes out where there aren't any people.

27 He's right, us poor bastards that live in rural areas we get randomly punched in the head all the time. Can't take a stroll down a dirt road without someone whaling on you.
?

28 Dude, I'm not reading anything jornolista-juiceboxy, never, that's just how I roll. But would it be an accurate paraphrase to say that  --  when minutes count, Officer Friendly and the rest of Pima County Sheriff Dupnik's SWAT Team are busy killing an IRAQ Vet Marine on the other side of the citaaayyy?

29 he pulled his observation from his ass.

30
Try breaking into any of the farmsteads I grew up around and your likely to get spleen full of #4 shot or a rather large 30-06 hole in yer noggin.




The three S's are remarkably effective.

31 Can we hand out an award for these criminals?

32 How many examples do we need that Matty is an ignorant cocksucker who doesn't even have the sense to come in out of the rain?

33 if we count "Organic Food Stores" as crime (which they are), cities have a far higher crime rate than the country

34

You know what people do when they have money? They buy land.  Therefore, it is likely that those people who live in especially dense populations don't have money.

And people without money gain more marginal utility from crime than those who do not.  Which doesn't make poor people criminals, but does incentivize them to crime to a greater degree.

 

35 Can't take a stroll down a dirt road without someone whaling on you.
?

Posted by: lowandslow at May 15, 2011 04:08 PM (GZitp)

Happens to me all the time. It's usually a Guatemalan with a butterfly knife.

36 Can we hand out an award for these criminals?
Posted by: Zakn at May 15, 2011 04:09 PM

Peace Prize.

37 My Father grew up hard and dirt poor on Cape Hatteras, and he always told me three reasons why he never stole anything, even when they were hungry:

1)- He was raised better.

2)- The Good Book says you shouldn't steal.

3)- And a dozen or so of his neighbors would come over and beat the shit out of him...

Sounded like a near-perfect, self-contained system to me.

38

Seattle is a case in point that more people and more police officers don't lead to less crime, but more crime being allowed to be freely committed without police intervention. there was an article in local media a month ago about how the police have pretty much stopped responding to all the shoplifting calls. They've also stopped doing much about home burglaries unless it is a home invasion where someone is hurt. And, don't get me started on the utter lack of concern for crimes at bus stops, in the bus tunnel, at park and rides.

39 "As it happened both times my assaults involved two very tall dark-skinned men and I've struggled with the very stereotypical but powerful "OH NOES BIG BLACK GUYS" reaction ever since."

I love the modern "progressives"


It's past time to ignore our survival instinct in order to promote diversity and understanding. So what if it costs some lives.

40

Rural: Community
Urban: Diversity

41
"Officer, I saw it all. Mr. Yglesias was walking down the street reading that volume of Derrida, tripped, fell, and the book mysteriously found it's way up his ass when he hit the curb. Damnedest thing I've ever seen."

42 It's the trains. Cities have lots of trains. If you are in trouble you can just jump on the train or subway. Everyone knows the subway is safe. Trains=Less Crime.We need more trains, everywhere.

43 As usual Yglesias is out of his intellectual depth.  This guy strikes me as someone who's had all the advantages in terms of schooling and connections but can't really get anywhere in a policy discussion because he's not all that bright.

I remember reading about a small-town guy who got held up in NYC circa 1980.  He was standing on a crowded street and everybody just happened to be looking somewhere else.

44 Redistribution of wealth?   Pipe wrench to the head or NLRB, what is the fucking difference?

45

It's past time to ignore our survival instinct in order to promote diversity and understanding. So what if it costs some lives.

Win Win Baby!

46 Reminds me a bit of the agrarian society model of Jefferson, composed of small communities with independent self-sufficient individuals but with the ability and willingness to coordinate their activities as a team when required.  One of the reasons they would voluntarily do so is that they KNEW their neighbors and vice versa.
It sort of seems self evident to me (but I did not graduate from an Ivy League school and thus am at a disadvantage), is that the default anonymity that is an intrinsic component of urban high density living leads to a lessening of behavioral standards, simply because it is virtually impossible to be recognized/identified in "urbia".  George Will wrote a piece years ago where he mentioned that in the original small community, your ability to get a job at the mill might well be influenced by which church you went to (or didn't attend). It is certainly possible to quibble with the potentially discriminatory aspects of this (now lost) ability to hire as one saw fit, but in a small town, you knew you were hiring not only the individual but, in a sense, his family and their standards as well.

47 I would rather pitch a fucking teepee in the deserts of iraq before ever living in one of the "superior" cities of jersey.

48 Matt Yglesias is the Newt Gingrich of liberal political pundits.

49 Kyle Busch is the fucking man!1!1!!!1!!

50 everyone knows that annonimity doesn't provide an incentive to anti-social behavior. every one of you fuckwad jackwagons should know that. douches.

51 Cities are safer because cities tend to have a higher concentration of Scientologists, and they have magic powers 'n' shit.

52 You know, some people would say Matty lacked situational awareness. I think he has his head too far up his ass to pay attention.

53

And, you can't force community dammit. Just because you shove everybody into a 30 story high apartment building and make them all have to walk everywhere doesn't mean you create a community bond.

I am sick to death of liberals thinking that you can force community if you just get people to live a certain way.

I mean really, add in lines for bread and toilet paper and we might as well be living in the Soviet Union circa 1975.

54 I mean really, add in lines for bread and toilet paper and we might as well be living in the Soviet Union circa 1975.

Would there be cheap vodka?  I'm trying to find the silver lining here.

55

I mean really, add in lines for bread and toilet paper and we might as well be living in the Soviet Union circa 1975.

At least the Soviets weren't eco-tards.

56  Yglesias doubles-down on teh stupid. What would his stereotypical but powerful reaction be if he got air-hammered by some white dudes in suits?

57

I remember reading about a small-town guy who got held up in NYC circa 1980.  He was standing on a crowded street and everybody just happened to be looking somewhere else.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 15, 2011 04:15 PM (QgI7g)

I had a good friend in New York City
He never called me by my name, just hillbilly
My grandpa taught me how to live off the land
And his taught him to be a businessman
He used to send me pictures of the Broadway nights
And IÂ’d send him some homemade wine

But he was killed by a man with a switchblade knife
For 43 dollars my friend lost his life
Id love to spit some beechnut in that dudes eyes
And shoot him with my old 45
Cause a country boy can survive
Country folks can survive

58
right by Catania Bakery a couple of dudes ran up from behind, punched me in the head, then kicked me a couple of times before running off.






It pains me to hear this -- because I've got a cold sore and it hurts when I smile.

59 If anyone wants to read the paper, the citation is:

Why Is There More Crime in Cities?
Author(s): Edward L. Glaeser and Bruce Sacerdote
Source: The Journal of Political Economy, Vol. 107, No. S6 (December 1999), pp. S225-S258

60 It isn't just the population that's dense.

61

#58

I imagine if the bakery hadn't been serving products with high fructose corn syrup, these 'food victims' would have never turned to violence.

62 "Why Cities Are Superior"Maybe better restaurants but not during a zombie apocalypse or earthquake.

63

The first mistake he's making is that he assumes crime density is absolute and does not vary with changes in popoulation density.  If there are more people to be observers, there are alos more people to be perps and vics. 

The second mistake he's making is that police prevent crime.  This is rarely true.  It was true in New York in the 2000s, but I don't think that's something you can assume universally.

64 Smacking Yglesias.  Bad?

65 Also in urban areas the "bystander effect" often paralyzes groups of people who witness a crime in progress into doing nothing to stop it. Per a Psych 101 synopsis I found:
"People tend to be followers and will only get involved if they witness another person getting involved.  What results is a group of people witnessing a crime and wondering why nobody is helping."

Similarly, in high-crime urban areas, many people witness a crime, but no one comes forward to ID any suspects.  This is for fear of becoming targeted by the thugs who roam freely in their neighborhoods.

So much for densely populated areas being naturally safer eh?

66 Pimps reduce crime by keeping their hoes in check.

67 The second mistake he's making is that police prevent crime.  This is rarely true.  It was true in New York in the 2000s, but I don't think that's something you can assume universally.

It not even clear it was true in New York in the 2000s.  The drop in crime was accompanied by some pretty big demographic changes:  There just aren't as many people in the age ranges that tend to produce criminals.

68 Matthew Yglesias emits a pheromone that's says Hit me.

69 Was that his title? It seems like he would use "Why People Who Live in Large Cities are Superior".

70
"Why Cities Are Superior"Maybe better restaurants but not during a zombie apocalypse or earthquake.






You shouldn't go overboard with outlandish improbable scenarios. Everyone knows that the earth doesn't move.....

71

Do you think guys like Yglesias and Krugman know they're wrong but just take the paycheck anyway?

72

Pimps reduce crime by keeping their hoes in check.

Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at May 15, 2011 04:26 PM (QU+WE)

Keep the pimp hand strong!

73 Similarly, in high-crime urban areas, many people witness a crime, but no one comes forward to ID any suspects.

There was a line in Highlander that made me chuckle. After the cops find yet another headless body but can't find any witnesses the chief investigator says "That's New York for ya. Twenty people standin' around and nobody saw nuthin'."

74 He was attacked because taxes are too low.

75

Do you think guys like Yglesias and Krugman know they're wrong but just take the paycheck anyway?

That thought never crossed my mind.

76
I'm sure that the hipster eyeglasses and Brady Campaign t-shirt didn't just scream "I'm unarmed". No way in hell that this had anything to do with it.

77

Coming from Camden NJ which took honors many years for most major crimes per capita in the USA I feel qualified in stating that a can of whoop ass goes a long way to refudiate this candy ass report. That is all Carry on!

78 Do you think guys like Yglesias and Krugman know they're wrong but just take the paycheck anyway?

Yglesias no.  Krugman maybe.  In his case I think he's based his social status on a set of positions and carefully avoids thinking about anything that would conflict.  And I think he knows that's what he's doing.

79 Another factor:  That greater 'population density' means an even greater density of criminals, because the victim-rich environment encourages criminality.

80

Do you think guys like Yglesias and Krugman know they're wrong but just take the paycheck anyway?

Posted by: Truman North at May 15, 2011 04:29 PM (K2wpv)

No, it truly is a mental condition.

81 Many years ago, while walking the Mall in Washington DC, Alan Cranston came jogging by alone.  It took a superhuman restraint on my part not to grab him by his scrawny neck and squeeze the life out of him.

82 How's that "no concealed carry -- call 911" approach working out for you?

83

#72

I think they don't have any doubts in their minds that their premises are sound (tax more, spend more, liberalism in general), but I don't think they buy even half of the arguments they use to get to their premises.

They just know they are right and that is why they much such horrible arguments. The details don't matter when you are convinced you can see the big picture.

 

84 Gay male hookers in urban areas are more likely to be assaulted and robbed....just sayin'.

85 Me and Buzz barely excaped from the Moon with our lives.

86

#86

This is because gay male hookers are underrepresented in urban areas due to discrimination.

87 Huh.  IOTW is right:  Yglesias really *is* the dumbest blogger on the planet.

88 If big urban areas are known for one thing, it's their low crime rate.

89 ""Coming from Camden NJ which took honors many years for most major crimes per capita in the USA I feel qualified in stating that a can of whoop ass goes a long way to refudiate this candy ass report. That is all Carry on!""


Camden is insane. A friend of mine was working there for a few months picking up dumpsters from commercial businesses, and was telling me that just about every other week a dead body would appear in a dumpster somewhere.

90 Oh a safer more populace city environment? Like the one my 14 year old cousin was murdered in back in '05?

Yeah the police presence really stepped the fuck up there. Why they were ALL OVER that dead kid with the chalk outline while the murderer stood there watching, and the neighborhood never came forward.

Fuck cities. They're the cancer of this country.

91 If big urban areas are known for one thing, it's their low crime rate.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 15, 2011 04:37 PM (GTbGH)

Ya know?

92 Isn't Yglesias a Media Matters tool anyways?

93 ""Fuck cities. They're the cancer of this country.""


This.

94 Next thread up is broken for me.

95 I mostly love how it's always the fault of those of us intelligent enough to MOVE THE HELL OUT of crime-ridden, rusting out big cities, that these things happen to the young Shampoo Planet types who bought in to "Modern Urban Renaissance - all Benetton, no Homicide" And sometimes literally bought in - as in paid a pretty penny for condo and houses there. Heh. I love my hometown (Philly) but I'm sure glad I don't live there anymore

96 Don't make me break out the BOCEPHUS!

97 I got lost in Chester once - during the middle of the day, thankfully - and drove by a couple of guys tossing an awfully-human-shaped large wrapped plastic item in a flatbed. they were probably heading over to Camden

98 Matthew Yglesias gets smacked by a couple of punks walking home

That's it?  No pudding cup?  No flaming skull pussy?  No red headline?  The punks were probably cranky because their mommies didn't put them down for a nap at the usual time.

I'll be in my bunk.

99 Next thread up is broken for me.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 15, 2011 04:40 PM (2JLiP)

What next thread?

100 Cities used to be cool, probably before I was born, but the ass sucking liberals destroyed them. Rent control created the slums, and the corrupt communist dems just kept them expanding.

101 Matthew Yglesias emits a pheromone that's says Hit me.

More like he's wearing a sign that says "Pu-weeese DON'T hit me!"

If I saw him, I might have a 'stereotypical but powerful' urge to punch his lights out.

But I wouldn't. Grossly unfair.

102 This argument (that more of us should live in urban areas) reminds me of the "damn those who opt out of the public schools, they are ruining it for the rest of us!" arguments I hear all the time. Always SOMEONE ELSE - preferably someone completely unrelated to the situation and doing just fine, thank you - that needs blamin for our cute little Libbies

103 Did you read that the chairman of the IMF, a likely candidate in France's next presidential election, was arrested and dragged off a plane for attempting to rape a hotel maid in NYC?

Just goes to show you, these women from big cities are just waiting to try and get powerful, famous political leaders in trouble!  Like when all you want is a relaxing abdominal massage....

104 Once again they prove the stupid is epic. Even experiments with rats proved that if you put enough of them in close confinement once the critical mass is reached they immediately go into a frenzy killing each other.

105 I often just react to such stoopid with no words and must step away from the computer. God bless you Morons that fight with greater consistency.

I'm stepping out now to celebrate family birthdays. I'm pumped to give my sister the Kindle I bought her and enjoy what will certainly be too much fine Tutta Bella pizza.

106 106. You see, Vic, you are confused. You believe that humans, like other territorial, social animals, actually need a nice safe TERRITORY as part of their nature. Oh no! We don't. We're too smart for that!

107 Yeah, when was the last time there was a riot in a rural area?

108

and also Andy started it so there.

 

So.... we kill him first then?

109 So to sum things up: Left-wing douche completely ignores actual facts, evidence, and reality in favor of his completely wrong theory of how things should be. Also, I believe the sun rose in the east today.

110 Once again they prove the stupid is epic. Even experiments with rats proved that if you put enough of them in close confinement once the critical mass is reached they immediately go into a frenzy killing each other.

Posted by: Vic at May 15, 2011 04:45 PM (M9Ie6)

Yet our lib Commie betters are doing all they can to drive us towards Metro areas where they can better control us.

Fuck that and fuck them. I'll never live in the city again.

111

I followed the link and read the whole thing including the comments.  Birds of a feather, that dummy liberal and his commenters.  One lone guy making sense, all the rest of them echoing M.Y. and his liberal apology (oh it's not the muggers fault, those poor misguided brutes).

 

High density = high crime

High crime = neighbors who look the other way to avoid being the next victim.

Liberals = natural born victims who deep in their heart of hearts just know they deserve to be victimized

 

 

 

 

112 Those rural gangs are vicious.  I know you've all heard of the Apple Dumpling Gang.

113 109 Yeah, when was the last time there was a riot in a rural area?

Posted by: Berserker at May 15, 2011 04:46 PM (FMbng)

Well there was a bit of a scuffle over who really owned Old man Sutton's two pigs back in '73, but it didn't come to serious blows. Still some hurt feelin's over the whole thing though.

114

I've lived in Philly and been in most major cities in the US; the most scared I ever was was a trip through Belle Glade, Florida. Sounds pretty, doesn't it?

 

Cities are shit, but certain towns can be as well.

115 It's a daily variable as to whether Yglesias is a bigger dope than even Ezra Klein.

116 Probably a couple of Matthew's fans who were pissed of at him for deigning to dine with Megan McArdle - that conservative whore!!!

117 Oh no! We don't. We're too smart for that!

Yeah, isn't it amazing. The sociologists who did the experiment with the rats forced them into that confined environment, but humans do it on their own.

118 And don't forget all the rural panhandlers.  And the rural bums sleeping under bridges.

119 117. oh, no doubt! I'd rather walk up Broad St the whole way than be stuck in Coatesville or Norristown. Those two towns have something in common however - incredible locations, surrounded by flourishing suburbs and exurbs, and complete socialist pits.

120 HIGH-DENSITY AREAS ARE SAFER BECAUSE EVERYONE IN THEM PUNCHES UP!!  THEY PUNCH UP ALL THE FUCKING TIME!!  NONE OF THIS LAID-BACK SITTING-ON-THE-PORCH-SIPPING LEMONADE COUNTRY SHIT!  UP AND UP AND UP AND UP!!  I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR ANY CONSERVATIVE NOT WILLING TO ROLL UP HIS SLEEVES AND GET INTO THE MUCK OF THE CONCRETE FUCKING JUNGLE!!

121 114 Those rural gangs are vicious.  I know you've all heard of the Apple Dumpling Gang.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 15, 2011 04:49 PM (1fanL)

You laugh, but almost everywhere there's somebody you don't mess with.

122

You laugh, but almost everywhere there's somebody you don't mess with.

Damn straight  8

123 You laugh, but almost everywhere there's somebody you don't mess with.

So, you've met my in-laws.

124

You laugh, but almost everywhere there's somebody you don't mess with.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 15, 2011 04:54 PM (QgI7g)

You're trying to tell me that Old Man Larson is a gang?

125 He's twisting Jane Jacobs because he's a moron who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. There's truth in some of what he's saying, but it is an argument that has fuck-all to do with super high density (see: housing projects, for instance ) and everything to do with mixed-use neighborhoods which assure that there are always eyes on the street as well as neighbors/merchants who know each other.  In rural areas, this is accomplished first of all by having better neighbors, and second by the fact that people know each other.

126 Funny I've been thinking that a city is not the best place to be if something major happens, like a tornado or hurricane, it's hard to get out. 

which then makes you think that it's easy to control a city because of that, the people are essentially trapped by the fact that cars would be congested and subways and such might not be working.  so you'd have just your own two feet to try and get out.

127 73 Pimps reduce crime by keeping their hoes in check. Posted by: dudeinsantacruz at May 15, 2011 04:26 PM (QU+WE) Keep the pimp hand strong! Hence the expression, Pimp My Hoe!

128 Think about I am Legend when they blow the bridges curious

129 I'm seeing flags at half mast. Anyone know why?

130 I felt safer walking around the streets of Cairo, Egypt (pop. ~22 million) than I do in Chicago, Detroit, Dallas or pretty much any other major US city.  That was back in 2006, and I don't know how things are now.

131 Honest guys......there really was another thread there for a minute.

http://minx.cc/?post=316207


And when you clicked, it gave me.........


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Maybe I need to start drinking a little early today.

132 I left the Bay Area in 1977 and said then that was the last time I was going to live in or near a large city. It turns out I left at just the right time. Oakland has turned into a major shit hole and Union City where I had an apartment before I moved to Castro Valley has been taken over by Hispanic Gangs.

133 It's amazing how stupid smart people are.

He's just trying to deal with the fact that he's racist.

All liberals are racist.  And engage in projection.

134 ....the most scared I ever was was a trip through Belle Glade, Florida. Sounds pretty, doesn't it?

Posted by: Bars at May 15, 2011 04:50 PM (RPYjQ)

The only reason to be in Belle Glade is to buy crack or minister to the downtrodden........hookers, crack smokers, or Charlie Crist.

135 I'm seeing flags at half mast. Anyone know why?

Posted by: USS Diversity at May 15, 2011 05:00 PM (RPYjQ)

I'm sure it's for Huck.

136 Honest guys......there really was another thread there for a minute.

You mean this one.  I'm assuming rd accidentally main sited it when he meant to sidebar it.

137 Why did Matthew Yglesias get punched?

http://tinyurl.com/6b3mp8r

Cause he looks like a sucka. QED.

138 which then makes you think that it's easy to control a city because of that, the people are essentially trapped by the fact that cars would be congested and subways and such might not be working.  so you'd have just your own two feet to try and get out.

Posted by: curious at May 15, 2011 04:57 PM (k1rwm)

No shit. During Katrina, residents knew three days out that a major hurricane was bearing down on them.

They could have packed valuables and walked out of harm's way but instead, they sat on their asses, lost everything and bitched about how the government left them to die.

139

The only reason to be in Belle Glade is to buy crack or minister to the downtrodden........hookers, crack smokers, or Charlie Crist.

No shit. I think we were trying a shortcut to get to the east coast. Well, that and trying to score some crank. But mostly the shortcut.

140
@132

Google says Peace Officer Memorial Day - May 15th

141

My theory perfectly explains why Opie and his buddies never gang-raped Miss Crump.

142 Google says Peace Officer Memorial Day - May 15th

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 15, 2011 05:06 PM (M8E6y)

Oh....the poet (?) Common's favorite day.

143 toby928
"You mean this one.  I'm assuming rd accidentally main sited it when he meant to sidebar it."

Yup....that's the one.
I thought I was losing my mind.

144

I live by myself on the outskirts of town, but in an area that is more country than city.   I am much safer than my best friend who lives in the middle of her city.   There's no way anyone could break into my home when I'm not here.   My neighbors in front of me and to one side would see something or hear something out of place, and be damn sure to call the cops, or even confront the asshole/s attempting to do anything. 

Now, my friend experiences wierd shit almost every week.   People walk through her yard at all hours of the day and night.   She has been awakened on more than one occassion with her dog freaking out, because someone was standing in her yard.    She's had people run from her carport when she turns on the light.   Who knows what they were up to or contemplating doing.    If she didn't have a dog that alerted her there's no telling what could have happened.

I've lived in big cities in several states, and there's no way as a single woman I would do it again.   MY is a stone cold idiot.   I wish I could have been there to see him get his ass whooped.

145 But I think it is just funny as hell that this guy is so divorced from reality that he thinks DC is safer than some random rural environment because of population density.

DC is one of the most crime ridden cesspools in the country.

City ranking for crime

http://tinyurl.com/266sqqv

146 Based on his reasoning the curves must produce a point where crime in cities reaches zero.

147 This guy on I survived is making me wince. He hears glass breaking downstairs and instead of grabbing the Shotgun that should have been next to his bed, he grabs a tennis racket.

You fucking rack in the round coming down the stairs and when you make eye contact with the future dead guy it's much less comfortable. Well for him at least. 

Then the guy doesn't just run up to you and start stabbing you.

148 Oh wait. he probably lives in the city. Much safer place. No need to have the shotty next to the bed....fucking idiots.

149 Based on his reasoning the curves must produce a point where crime in cities reaches zero.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe and Mississippi Babe Rescue Team at May 15, 2011 05:10 PM (64xTs)

We have tons of those around here. They're called ghost towns.

150 I think he's got something against poor white trash.

Racist.

151 I had a good friend in New York City he never called me by my name just hillbilly

152 140 Why did Matthew Yglesias get punched?

http://tinyurl.com/6b3mp8r

Cause he looks like a sucka. QED.

Posted by: Oschisms at May 15, 2011 05:05 PM (GqM5k)

Gah! He looks like every male student on the Oberlin campus [and some of the females, truth be told]

OT- Is anyone having a problem getting a Twitter feed?

153 One thing though - since I've moved out to the country, everyone in my family has had to get rabies shots, and everyone but me has had Lyme disease more than once.

So there's something to be said for city living.

154 I'm glad Matt likes living in the city.

155 So there's something to be said for city living.

Posted by: meep at May 15, 2011 05:15 PM (D6IZg)

How'd I forget there's no shots or disease in cities?  Damn!

156 Looking over that chart a surprising finding is how much NYC has improved. Their crime rate is actually lower than the national average.

157 One thing though - since I've moved out to the country, everyone in my family has had to get rabies shots, and everyone but me has had Lyme disease more than once.

So there's something to be said for city living.

Posted by: meep at May 15, 2011 05:15 PM (D6IZg)

What are you doing, playing with raccoons and running around in high weeds wearing shorts?

158

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at May 15, 2011 05:06 PM (M8E6y

Thanks for the info.

159 Whole lotta Belle Glade hatin' round here. But comparing Gator Blvd to 46th and Baltimore is somewhat hyperbolic. You should resist commenting while drinking.

160 I have been living in the "country" for the last 33 years and have had none of those problems.

161
Those rural gangs are vicious.  I know you've all heard of the Apple Dumpling Gang.





You should see those Scandi dairy gangs. They pour milk on your head and bludgeon you with herring. Brutal.

162 Yeah, Yglesias has no idea what the fuck he's talking about. Urban areas are to criminals like urban areas are to pseudo-intellectual know-nothing leftist douchebags like Matthew Yglesias. Show me a rural area with a higher crime rate than your average urban area, and I'll show you an outlier.

163 In fairness to Matty, maybe he was a little punch drunk when he wrote this dreck?

164 156 One thing though - since I've moved out to the country, everyone in my family has had to get rabies shots, and everyone but me has had Lyme disease more than once.

So there's something to be said for city living.

Posted by: meep at May 15, 2011 05:15 PM (D6IZg)

My daughter, my dog and I all had Lyme Disease while living in Bryn Mawr, PA [Philly suburb] 10-15 years ago. Also, rabid squirrels, raccoons and bats around that general area, so there were people we knew who needed rabies shots.

No issues for anyone in the family since moving to rural VA 8 years ago.

165 I was there when Wilson B Goode dropped the bomb on John Africa so don't think I didn't live there for three fucking years. Trust me, Belle Glade is safer. Palm Beach County haters, get a job. Oh, I forgot, there are no jobs in PA.

166

We have gangs of these evil SOBs out here in the country

167

168 156 One thing though - since I've moved out to the country, everyone in my family has had to get rabies shots, and everyone but me has had Lyme disease more than once.

So there's something to be said for city living.

Posted by: meep at May 15, 2011 05:15 PM (D6IZg)

I've lived in the sticks for my entire life, we have racoons running through my yard every day, I've never even heard of anyone getting rabies. How the hell does your ENTIRE family get rabies?

169 >> Andy started it so there This was way too much stupid to keep to myself. I'm a giver like that.

170 Funny.  I live in the suburbs, and I deal with neither rampant crime, nor vermin-borne disease.  It's almost as if I've found a happy medium here.

171

Posted by: Vic at May 15, 2011 05:23 PM (M9Ie6)

You heartless bastard.  They only steal food to feed their families.

172 169

We have gangs of these evil SOBs out here in the country

Posted by: Vic at May 15, 2011 05:23 PM (M9Ie6)

Is that a descendant of the rabbit that attacked Dhimmy Carter?

173 171  It's Philly, man.

174

We have gangs of these evil SOBs out here in the country

Posted by: Vic at May 15, 2011 05:23 PM (M9Ie6)

Awwww.   I thought, before I clicked on the link, that it was going to be raccoons.    What a cute surprise that gave me the warm fuzzies.

175

What a cute surprise that gave me the warm fuzzies.

See a doctor about that.

176 I'm seeing flags at half mast. Anyone know why?
Google says Peace Officer Memorial Day - May 15th
I thought it was 'cause I missed par.

177

See a doctor about that.

Posted by: Truman North at May 15, 2011 05:27 PM (K2wpv)

Nooo.   That's something that's good to hold on to.

178 Damn right, Vic. One of those bastards almost got me. Luckily I had an oar to hand at the time.

179

O/T

David Mamet via the Weekly Standard

Higher ed, he said, was an elaborate scheme to deprive young people of their freedom of thought. He compared four years of college to a lab experiment in which a rat is trained to pull a lever for a pellet of food. A student recites some bit of received and unexamined wisdom—“Thomas Jefferson: slave owner, adulterer, pull the lever”—and is rewarded with his pellet: a grade, a degree, and ultimately a lifelong membership in a tribe of people educated to see the world in the same way.

I hope you weren't hoping I would google for a more relevant thread.

180 "They could have packed valuables and walked out of harm's way but instead, they sat on their asses, lost everything and bitched about how the government left them to die." --------------------------------------------------------------- Which turned out to be a good thing. There were so many people that stayed behind their density kept the crime rate at zero.

181 176 171  It's Philly, man.

Posted by: Fritz at May 15, 2011 05:26 PM (AN8d5)

Yeah, I've driven past Philly before, I could see that.

182 Which turned out to be a good thing. There were so many people that stayed behind their density kept the crime rate at zero.

Posted by: er at May 15, 2011 05:30 PM (+aMaK)

You heartless bastard.  Their families need food beer!

183 "In rural areas, you are more likely to be shot identified."

Fixed it for you, Dave.

I know Texas is full of girly men who are afraid of lawful Open Carry, but in the rest of the Red states, we are proud of our citizen driven death rate for violent criminals.

184

We have gangs of these evil SOBs out here in the country

Posted by: Vic at May 15, 2011 05:23 PM (M9Ie6)

I am sick and tired of these motherfucking bunnies on these motherfucking plains!

185 I love how Breitbart retweets all the nasty & mean tweets about him.

186 All cities follow the same pattern, decent, hard working people make them prosperous and then the scum move in to take advantage of that prosperity, vote for dems who flush the city down the shitter and then move on when there's no more rich people to soak. Meanwhile, the city that's now in the shitter has more hard working people start to move back in to take advantage of the cheap property and build the city back up. Rinse, repeat.

187 I know Texas is full of girly men who are afraid of lawful Open Carry, but in the rest of the Red states, we are proud of our citizen driven death rate for violent criminals.

Posted by: Kristopher at May 15, 2011 05:32 PM (atS82)

IIRC, Texas is the state where you can shoot a guy in self-defense when he's burglarizing the house next door.

188 This guy is a fat, retarded idiot.

189 Just got back from seeing Bridesmaids.  Loved it.  I laughed all the way thru.  Highly recommend it.  The theater was pretty full, a good smattering of guys and they were laughing as hard as the girls. 

190 I know Texas is full of girly men who are afraid of lawful Open Carry

Hey now, we've had to deal with a pretty evenly split lege up until '10, open carry laws will be changing soon.

191

Better respek the 'hood, yo.

192 I reckon my little town is something of an aberration .
Pop. around 2,000 .  We get around 3 murders a year .80% of the victims and perpetrators are black .
While exiting the Family Dollar a few weeks ago two young crack whores motherfucked me because they almost walked into the door as I opened it . They were probably visiting from out of town as they didn't seem local . Of course I downplayed the incident as it happened by politely questioning " What there fuckin' problem was ?" .  Hi jinks ensued  .....The whole scene occurred on main street in full view of the citizens .
Then there was the time that a ,just off the chain gang yard bird , bummed a cig from me . While shaking one out for him a second cigarette dropped onto the front seat of my truck seat . He went to grab that one while saying he'd just take one for later, too .  I reckon he thought I was a scared white guy .Well , as sometimes happens , despite my retiring nature  I declined to provide him with that second smoke and told him to " get the fuck outta ' my face " , while looking him right in the eye .  Kindly but firm , is my motto .
I refuse to be intimidated on my turf .

193 Booger: No they won't. Not this session.

The Fudds running the TSRA backstabbed you in the legislature this week.

194 Cities are superior because they do not produce enough food to sustain even a tiny fraction of their population and are entirely dependent on the good will of outsiders for basic needs of all kinds.

195

>> I know Texas is full of girly men who are afraid of lawful Open Carry

 

Wow. Are you a genuine internet tough-guy? 

 

I'm swooning.

196 Heh ... nope. I'm so un-tough I carry a pistol to prevent ass-whoopings.

Just stating facts.

Compare my home state Wyoming's ... or hell, even hippie-land Vermont's ... laws to Texas carry carry provisions.

197 I live in a small rural farming community. Everyone is armed to the teeth and violent crime is very rare. This is yet another case of our liberal friends knowing so much that isn't so.

198 Hey, armed and dangerous, what's the advantage, your opponent knowing you're armed?

199 Yglesias this is how you do it:

Crook: [during a diner robbery] What's you doing, you pighead sucka?
Harry Callahan: Every day for the past ten years, Loretta here's been giving me a large black coffee- except today she gives me a large black coffee and it has sugar in it. Alotta sugar. I just came back to complain.
Crook: Say what, sucka?
Harry Callahan: Well, we're not just gonna let you walk out of here.
Crook: Who'se we sucka?
Harry Callahan: [slowly drawing his .44 Magnum] Smith and Wesson... and me.

200 Look at the area on Google maps street view.  NSFW.

201 You are referring to me right? Do drop the dangerous part. I am harmless to those who do no offer me harm.

Thugs generally don't start fights with people who are armed. They go way out of their way to avoid fights with those who might fight back. If there ain't a fight to begin with, I win.

Yes, this is a disadvantage to the unarmed, who are depending on uncertainty about their armed status to protect them ... too bad for them.

202 You will notice when you read the article on the link that this left wing liberal scum ball was at the home of his friends...
Meghan McCardle - writer at The Atlantic and a pretend right winger.... hates Sarah Palin though (I guess so she can crack jokes at the cocktail parties with her left wing friends)
and
Peter Suderman - works as a right wing writer.
who apparently are a couple.

I laugh at how stupid the American people are who believe anything they read in the media  as being anywhere near the truth.
You have a wacko left wing hater visiting his friends, a couple who project the image of being Conservatives... Peter working with The American Conservative and Freedomworks...
is this normal? a left wing wacko who attacks anything to the right - socializing with friends who say they are right wingers and Conservatives? WTF is that about....
other than wake up you fools out there... it is a game. Left wing - right wing... who the f--k cares... it is all about where you can make the money.
Prime example.... Arianna Huffington who was a staunch hard line Democrat in her youth, then married a super wealthy California Republican politician. She was on all the talk shows and panels as a Conservative soldier, defending the right and attacking the left. Then when it came out that her husband was bisexual and active at it, she divorced him for a lot of money and guess what... she had an awakening and became a left winger again. Got funding from the far left wing wealthy people and started Huffington Post.
Look, politics is a way for a lot of people to take your money in contributions after they get you all worked up about the other side and then make a damn good living off it. Same with the left and right media.
SUCKERS

203 People who can't survive on their own live in cities to mooch off the infrastructure. That goes especially for criminals who lack the ambition to get serious and just want to take, take, take, so they fit right in Oh, and cities = helpless/moochers = democrats.

204 I live in a small rural farming community. Everyone is armed to the teeth and violent crime is very rare. This is yet another case of our liberal friends knowing so much that isn't so.

Posted by: Drew in MO at May 15, 2011 05:50 PM (SKoUw)

They just make shit up that makes them feel better.

They have no fucking clue how the real world works.

And as far as calling a lib a friend, I have a FB friend whom I'm trying to alienate but he won't budge. I've done everything from calling him a sissy and telling him his hero looks like a child predator.

He hasn't unfriended me yet but I'm working on it!

205 And one other note, Dave in Texas, you might want to web search for people arrested for accidental exposure of a CCW pistol in Texas.

Why in the hell do you folks put up with that?

206 I have lived all over the country. I have lived in big cities, small towns and in the country. In the old days there were a few advantages to living in a big city urban environment. Primarily this dealt with the night life (when I was young and single) and availability of shopping choices. But to get that there were an awful lot of negatives.

Now I am old and married and we have Amazon. There is absolutely zero reason to live in a city and many many reasons not to.  That includes the coming collapse.

207
Matt Yglesias makes Juan Cole look like a genius.

208 Posted by: Vic at May 15, 2011 05:19 PM (M9Ie6)

they should have "bg" stats and "ag" stats (before guiliani and after guiliani)  My mom tells me stories of when she was in college and found herself in the ABC's how she would have to walk in the middle of the street and have an animated conversation with herself as a means of protection.  My mom freaked out one night when I told her I was going to a bar in meat packing.  I had to literally drive her down there and show her the neighborhood.  She was shocked, to hear meat packing meat rape or worse if you were a girl or even a guy caught there after dark.

209 You know, thanks for letting us know how stupid you can be and still make money as a writer.

Gives us all hope.

I don't even understand how one makes it through the day with that much stupid floating around in one's head.

210 Generally, I carry concealed anyway, Dave.

But I don't have to worry about getting arrested because some damned Californian immigrant freaked and called 911 because I bent over to tie my shoes or somesuch.

If my making fun of Texans bothered you ... good.

Do something about it. Pass laws even more pro self defense than Wyoming's and then rub my face in it while laughing your ass off.

I dare you ...

211

I can tell by the pic that Yglesias is a mouthy motherfucker and a bitch.

And trim your facial hair, douchebag.

212

You know, I actually take your point.  Right up to the people who come up behind, but that's a special case.

 

For the ordinary, I'm living my life kind of carrier, who like you and me, are harmless unless harmed, yeah.

 

Except, fuck you.

 

 

best!

213 I love Texas . One of my sisters lives in the commie mecca of Austin . She fits right in , being a commie transplant from California  .

Her husband on the other hand is pure Texas , 6'2'' , around 220 , Friendly , helpful , intelligent , and totally prepared to go medieval on anyone that messes with his family . He's one of my favorite people .
Texas is the second best state in the country .

214 Heh. Wouldn't expect less from a Texan. Now go get even with me.

215

He hasn't unfriended me yet but I'm working on it!

Posted by: ErikW at May 15, 2011 05:57 PM (8k/IT)

There is another option...

216 The best part of Cuba is Massachusetts.

217

I don't get dared.  I get.. "hey, if I'm carrying a weapon for self defense, it's to my advantage to keep it under wraps".

 

Which you also said is a good idea.

So all the taunting, that's kinda lame, precious.

218 DC is wildly variable too.  There's big areas by the monuments, Embassy rows, etc. where criminals don't go.  Borderline thruways like M.Y. was on & then da hood.

219 OT:  Anyone have a good pulled pork recipe they'd like to share? 

(Yes...the thread is dying...I'm turnin' it into a recipe thread)

220 hi all
it's sunday cleanup day at the chemjeff household

pulled pork?  no, no recipes sorry

221

I'm weird in that I feel that if I can afford not to share walls with people I'd really rather not share walls with people. So I don't like the "new" hot urban idea of stacking everyone up together. I mean I lived in a townhouse sandwiched between the townhouses of two single men and listening to their sex lives night after night got old fast. I swear I thought the one guy's bed was going to bust through the wall one particularly rowdy session.

But, I realize some people prefer living in condos or apartments and that's fine. Just don't force me to because of some misguided idea of what utopia must be.  

222 Ghey bashing, obviously.

223 I realize statistically that if I punch some hipster in DC he's likely to be a liberal but I did not realize it had become Saturday Nights entertainment.  Ah well, my running days are over anyways.

224 I swear I thought the one guy's bed was going to bust through the wall one particularly rowdy session.

sorry about that PGiS

225 'm seeing flags at half mast. Anyone know why?
Google says Peace Officer Memorial Day - May 15th


I thought it was 'cause I missed par.

Posted by: president o'bumbles at May 15, 2011 05:28 PM

Hell, if they lowered the flag every time you missed par the sucker would be flying in Hades by now.

226
You ever notice how in every 'futuristic' movie people live in hi-rise slums in tiny apartments?

227 I swear I thought the one guy's bed was going to bust through the wall one particularly rowdy session. 

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at May 15, 2011 06:12 PM (RZ8pf)

Sue me, Jealous.

228

There is another option...

Posted by: Tami at May 15, 2011 06:05 PM (VuLos)

Yeah but I'm a dick and I'm curious to see how far I can push him.

We had good times but his libtard position is unacceptable.

We were never good friends anyway.

229 Yglesias has this perception that every city is just like the hipster neighborhood he lives in, full of young hipster artists and dot-com startups, indy coffee shops, indy grocery stores, art galleries, nightclubs, and bath houses.

Those high crime housing projects and gang infested nabes? Just scare stories from the bigoted ignoramuses in suburbia and inbred hicks from the country

230 Heh, I love it when the blocked/boxed quotes get the "cool smiley" treatment.

231 Anybody got a summary of what's going on in Israel (beyond the Drudge headlines)?

232 Best small pork recipe?

Get a pork loin, marinate in your favorite BBQ sauce (I use CHS) for several hours. Wrap in tinfoil with BBQ sauce. Grill on low heat for 30 - 45 min (depending on size). Unwrap and grill and additional 5 - 7 min on each side.

Will be so tender you can cut it with a fork.

233 I've got a ton of people on my friends list I haven't irrevocably offended.  Yet.  Upwards of 100 I suspect.

234 But, I realize some people prefer living in condos or apartments and that's fine.

I actually used to be one of those people because i grew up in apartments and didn't know anything else, but then i became a home owner and now you couldn't pay me to live in an apartment again.

235 Felt real safe today down near Stark, FL, up a little N of Ocala, walking into a gun show.

236 I also have a hunch that Matty just cut and pasted from an email he sent his mom and dad giving reasons why he's not moving out of that shithole he lives in, and put it on his blog

237 206 You have a wacko left wing hater visiting his friends, a couple who project the image of being Conservatives... Peter working with The American Conservative and Freedomworks...
is this normal? a left wing wacko who attacks anything to the right - socializing with friends who say they are right wingers and Conservatives? WTF is that about....



William F. Buckley, Jr. was friendly with many left-wingers. Rick Brookhiser, WFB's one-time heir presumptive, is married to a lefty.

It's a left-wing trope that the personal is political and that politics is everything. Conservatives understand that politics is secondary to culture and social relations.

238 Hopefully I'll have no more ammo for this silliness after the 2013 legislative session. Unfortunately, I think you are only going to get a college carry provision this year, at best.

239
Remember THE FIFTH ELEMENT?

Bruce Willis lived in a cube. I wonder if Futurama stole that from that movie.

240 late to the discussion but i will make an admission. I have studied military tactics. And strategically cities are NOT where you want to be.

i know its weird but its stuck with me all my life since my teens. But Being in a big city scares me because it can all go sooo wrong in a matter of hours. Perhaps the Rodney King riots scarred me. Perhaps it was the men in my life all being military officers of different branches... whatever it is, I always feel profoundly uneasy in urban environments.

241 Just a bit from Drudge's big red headline

MAJDAL SHAMS, Golan Heights – Mobilized by calls on Facebook, thousands of Arab protesters marched on Israel's borders with Syria, Lebanon and Gaza on Sunday in an unprecedented wave of demonstrations, sparking clashes that left at least 15 people dead in an annual Palestinian mourning ritual marking the anniversary of Israel's birth.

...
President Barack Obama's envoy to the region, George Mitchell, resigned Friday after more than two years of fruitless efforts.

242

My rural, small town newspaper prints out a regular "Police Blotter" every weekend. Very short. It's almosts quaint to read.

My last few months in Ohio, there were 2 murder-suicides involving illegals in my apartment complex alone. Whenever you see multiple TV stations news vans around your place in an urban area, you're pretty assured it's not going to be a good thing.

I couldn't sleep my first night in my new home city (pop 400,000) in South Korea. My first time outside of Canada and the US. I went for a walk around 2 AM and was kind of nervous until I saw a little granny walking alone. We smiled and nodded to each other and I always felt safe thereafter.

243 Cities are the best. Only in a city do you get to sodomize a maid with your room service.

244 Look, politics is a way for a lot of people to take your money in contributions after they get you all worked up about the other side and then make a damn good living off it. Same with the left and right media.
SUCKERS

Posted by: PhilipJames at May 15, 2011 05:55 PM (G9AXq)

Yeah, we're all suckers, and you're smarter than the rest of us.  Because I thought politics was a way to determine who makes the laws and governs.  But I'm a sucker like that.

245 late to the discussion but i will make an admission. I have studied military tactics. And strategically cities are NOT where you want to be.

Tell us about it.

246

225 I'm weird in that I feel that if I can afford not to share walls with people I'd really rather not share walls with people. So I don't like the "new" hot urban idea of stacking everyone up together.But, I realize some people prefer living in condos or apartments and that's fine. Just don't force me to because of some misguided idea of what utopia must be.  

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at May 15, 2011 06:12 PM (RZ8pf)

I believe it was PJ O'Rourke who referred to apartment living in the USSR as "stack-a-prole".

247 As for OC / CCW ... it depends. I do like have that option if I wish. And the Second Amendment tends to agree with said, despite some judges' or politician's lack of reading skills.

248 Here's a story from near where I live. The Randolph Herald won't put it on-line until next week and I can't be bothered to walk to the living room to get the paper and verify the details, so it's from memory:

A guy robbed a bank in South Royalton, VT. He was identified and subsequently apprehended within a few hours because a) He had an enormous tattoo of the word "Jessica" across his neck and b) he was a patron of the local beauty parlor and one of the tellers' mothers owned that beauty parlor.

It's pretty much a case of "criminal too stupid to live" but I thought it might have bearing on the issue being discussed.

249 Whether it's concealed carry or open carry in Wyoming, nobody fucking cares, due to the lack of any significant population, unless you're an asshole.  You carry probably because you run your mouth too much and people tend to want to kick your ass.

Today is a good day for grilling a fat juicy pork loin/roast.

250 Earth to Yggy:

Unfortunately, the big urban police forces (thanks to unions) are becoming more and more like protection rackets.

251 And Stark, FL, is pretty close to the state pen where they still conduct executions by electrocution. Guy at a roadside stand told me we were close enough to "smell the barbecue." Got on the interstate a little later in the afternoon, got passed at speed by a Prius with a COEXIST bumper sticker. I thought the place he ought to try out his concept, might be back at the gun show.

252 I like being in the suburbs. Still some people around, but I've got space. And if things go to hell I've mapped out my neighbors who I believe will not survive the initial crisis so I can take over their resources. I also know where I will locate my Thunderdome.

253

The biggest thing I noticed in South Korea. Teenage girls walking alone on backstreets 10 PM or 11 PM at night (if they had detention) in their schoolgirl uniforms.

Everytime I saw that, I'd just think to myself "If they were in Detroit right now, they'd be raped and killed."

254 Give him just enough, just enough for the the Cityyyyy....

255
momma posted a piece about the "Third Way's" opinion that Obama is right about the debt ceiling and if the Republicans don't go along with Obama, it could cost 64K jobs.

Isn't it odd how these a-political and bipartisan groups such as Third Way and No Labels have the uncanny knack of always agreeing with Obama & the Democrats?

256 People should be able to run their mouth as much as they wish. Words are not deeds.

And it is a good weekend to grill some meat.

257

The biggest thing I noticed in South Korea. Teenage girls walking alone on backstreets 10 PM or 11 PM at night (if they had detention) in their schoolgirl uniforms.

What's the age of consent and the website where you can get those cheap plane tickets?

258 Hurry.

259
William F. Buckley, Jr. was friendly with many left-wingers. Rick Brookhiser, WFB's one-time heir presumptive, is married to a lefty.

It's a left-wing trope that the personal is political and that politics is everything. Conservatives understand that politics is secondary to culture and social relations.

Posted by: Leo Ladenson at May 15, 2011 06:19 PM (mAm+G)

my best friend calls himself a communist. Its hilarious because hes got extensive investments and is very conservative socially and religiously. I suspect he calls himself one because his dad was one. And dads dead and he loved him. WELL HES THE WORST COMMUNIST EVER.

he is however one of the best friends you could ever wish to have. Some lefties just dont know what they REALLY are. Theres an American Spectator article about "the Turning of David Mamet" and how he went from a self avowed brain dead lefty to realizing he'd always been really kind of conservative. Theres lots and LOTS of people like that walking around. Mostly indoctrinated since childhood by schools that "right is evil" they mouth the right words, try not to be evil and live rather conservatively.

i cut such people much slack.

Vicious lefties get NO slack from me.

260 222 DC is wildly variable too.  There's big areas by the monuments, Embassy rows, etc. where criminals don't go.  Borderline thruways like M.Y. was on & then da hood.

Posted by: Dave at May 15, 2011 06:07 PM (4KER5)

Why would they want to go after the people in the monument areas?  They might run the risk of having to deal with out of towner tourists who don't know that they're supposed to just ignor a crime and keep walking and get the ever loving fuck beaten out of them by some yokel from the country who doesn't take kindly to burglary.

261 Anybody got a summary of what's going on in Israel (beyond the Drudge headlines)?

Posted by: Methos at May 15, 2011 06:16 PM (uqJo6)

Iran baiting Israel into a response they deserve?

Palestinians from Syria and Lebanon are protesting Israel's statehood by staging violent protests crossing Israel's borders.

Muslim cocksuckers have been killed and scores more injured, which is a shame.

All of them should be dead.

262 197 Booger: No they won't. Not this session.

The Fudds running the TSRA backstabbed you in the legislature this week.

I hadn't heard about that, but some quick googling shows that you're correct.

263 My mentor in the polisci department is a self-described (and accurately) Social Democrat.  He's a pretty neat dude.

264 I hadn't heard about that, but some quick googling shows that you're correct.

I wish I weren't.

265

Posted by: Truman North at May 15, 2011 06:27 PM (K2wpv)

13. And when you're born, they count you as 1 year old, so a 13 year old is 12. I was shocked when I found that out...

266

A thread on what is going on with Israel today would be nice. I'd like to see the opinions of all the really smart guys who hang out here.

267

13. And when you're born, they count you as 1 year old, so a 13 year old is 12. I was shocked when I found that out...

Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel at May 15, 2011 06:30 PM (GKQDR)

I'm shocked, Officer!  I had no idea that's the way it worked, honest!

268 theres been this oddball demonization of the suburbs over the last decade. as if we all need to live in some squalid city ward.....

269

Insensitive wingnuts.

It was a full six pack of appleberry juiceboxes he stole.  I could've died of dehydration before reaching the subway.

It could only have been a riechwinger redneck who robbed me of my precious fruit juice to use as a bathtub moonshine mixer.  We urbanites would never stoop so low as to use stolen juiceboxes for mixing an appleberry martini.

Shit, I bet that toothless suburban thief doesn't even read the The New Yorker.

270 So did Yglesias get mugged by a couple of punk asking ... "Give us OUR money" ??

271 270

A thread on what is going on with Israel today would be nice. I'd like to see the opinions of all the really smart guys who hang out here.

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at May 15, 2011 06:32 PM

The Joooooos are butchering the oppressed Palestinians again!!11!

272 13. And when you're born, they count you as 1 year old, so a 13 year old is 12. I was shocked when I found that out...

Pfft. That's like fucking someone's grandmother.

273 I would suggest to Matty that he pay a call on The One at his Chicago home, just to chat about his concept, and get there by taking the bus from downtown, getting off to walk the last two miles, just to sample the ambiance.

274

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at May 15, 2011 06:32 PM (RZ8pf)

Israel should eliminate every threat against them. Every missile fired into Israel should be followed up by Israel with 100 missiles causing massive casualties until the rockets stop. The international response should be "Hey, what do you expect? You were firing rockets into Israel and they have to protect themselves..."

275 270

A thread on what is going on with Israel today would be nice. I'd like to see the opinions of all the really smart guys who hang out here.

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at May 15, 2011 06:32 PM (RZ8pf)

Don't forget all the jokes that will get cracked when the anti-semites start coming out of the woodwork.

276 272 theres been this oddball demonization of the suburbs over the last decade. as if we all need to live in some squalid city ward.....

Posted by: skr8 outta at May 15, 2011 06:33 PM (uqDva) 

The cities are a wonderful tapestry of diversity and openness.

Now excuse us; it's a long drive to our gated mansions.

277 Following a high-profile cobra escape earlier this year, the world-famous Bronx Zoo had a peacock go missing this week.  Sure, it's easy to get out, but the moment you want to get in to fuck a penguin, security is all over your ass.

278

 OT:  Anyone have a good pulled pork recipe they'd like to share? 

Get a pork shoulder...pat it dry...rub it w/mustard....put a nice spicy dry rub on top of that (I am using a really hot habanero rub I got in Vancouver last fall)..let it sit for a few hours..

...get your smoker grill hot first..I use a Brinkman that I picked up new for about $35

...smoke it using hickory (or your preferred smoke wood) using chunks!!!...not chips...smoke 1.5 hours for every pound of meat....longer if you like it really tender...DO NOT LIFT LID until you're ready to take it off..

...make sure to use a thermometer and make sure the meat is at least 165..I like to get it up closer to 200...that way it just falls apart

279 Israel should eliminate every threat against them.

Dude, I think nuking half of Europe might be a little excessive.

280

A thread on what is going on with Israel today would be nice. I'd like to see the opinions of all the really smart guys who hang out here.

Allow me to provide you with your daily dose of outrageous MSM bias, courtesy of al-Reuters.  Prepare to facepalm- I'm a giver like that.

That shooting took place in the tense neighborhood of Silwan in East Jerusalem, where violence regularly breaks out between Palestinian stone throwers and Israeli police and Jewish settlers.

Palestinians want East Jerusalem as the capital of the state they intend to establish in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.

Right- that's all they want, a new state with Jerusalem as the capital.  Once they get that, they'll be totally cool and peaceful.

281

Don't forget all the jokes that will get cracked when the anti-semites start coming out of the woodwork.

Posted by: buzzion at May 15, 2011 06:36 PM (9rOMf)

Serves 'em right.  Did you see all the people with hooked noses popping bubbly when the Twin Towers went down?

True story.

282 You can also tell that Yglesias hasn't been west of Chicago when it comes to cities ..

Los Angeles and Houston for instance aren't cities in the classic sense that NY or Boston are .. they're pretty much a mass of suburbs inside a border with a nominal downtown consisting of a couple dozen skyscrapers

"Los Angeles is 100 suburbs in search of a city" - Gertrude Stein

283 Did you see all the people with hooked noses popping bubbly when the Twin Towers went down?

The ones in Palestine, yeah.  I love when Arabs make fun of the Jooos' hook noses.  Psst!  You're all Semites! 

284

...make sure to use a thermometer and make sure the meat is at least 165..I like to get it up closer to 200...that way it just falls apart

Posted by: beedubya at May 15, 2011 06:37 PM (AnTyA)

Ok, I copied and saved that for when I get a smoker....

I'm sure yours is way better but for now I was more looking for a crockpot pulled pork recipe.

285 Los Angeles and Houston for instance aren't cities in the classic sense that NY or Boston are .. they're pretty much a mass of suburbs inside a border with a nominal downtown consisting of a couple dozen skyscrapers

"Los Angeles is 100 suburbs in search of a city" - Gertrude Stein

Posted by: kbdabear at May 15, 2011 06:39 PM (vdfwz)

--Same with Dallas.  I don't know if it is because it grew by annexation, or is coextensive with Dallas County, or what, but the sprawl is built in the city limits.

286 272 theres been this oddball demonization of the suburbs over the last decade. as if we all need to live in some squalid city ward.....

Posted by: skr8 outta at May 15, 2011 06:33 PM (uqDva)

That is because all of these twerps grew up in the suburbs as children of liberals.

287

The poor Palestenians are too poor to have any weapons but stones! They have to throw stones and in return they get gunned down by the Joooos, who are rich and horde all the gold and the good land.

/sarc obviously.

288

I'm sure yours is way better but for now I was more looking for a crockpot pulled pork recipe.

Shhhhh...don't ever say crockpot again when talking about BBQ

289 The Joooooos are butchering the oppressed Palestinians again!!11!

Posted by: Oliver Willis, lurking smart guy at May 15, 2011 06:34 PM (vdfwz)

The United Methodist Church came out in support of Palestine recently.

I was a Methodist until recently. Those cocksmokes can join Muslims while they throw rocks at Jews.

290 Museisluse, you near Oberlin? We drove through there to get to my dad's place. You could smell the liberal stench.

291

Shhhhh...don't ever say crockpot again when talking about BBQ

Posted by: beedubya at May 15, 2011 06:42 PM (AnTyA)

I'm sorry....I'll go sit outside for a while.....

292

You can also tell that Yglesias hasn't been west of Chicago when it comes to cities ..

You don't want to be in downtown LA after the end of the business day

293 "Los Angeles and Houston for instance aren't cities in the classic sense that NY or Boston are .. they're pretty much a mass of suburbs inside a border with a nominal downtown consisting of a couple dozen skyscrapers"

----actually thats pittsburgh.

294 293 The Joooooos are butchering the oppressed Palestinians again!!11!

Posted by: Oliver Willis, lurking smart guy at May 15, 2011 06:34 PM (vdfwz)

I'll never forget the Palestinians celebrating in the streets on 9/11. I celebrate a little bit inside every time I hear about a dead Palestinian. Really, any muslims....

295 "Homeland for the Palestinians" is a huge joke for those who don't even know 20th Century history

"Palestine" existed for all of 29 years as a British administered protectorate carved out of Syria when the Ottoman Empire was defeated in WW I

The "Palestinians" themselves are no more a unique ethnic and cultural entity than say the residents of New Jersey can claim to be. They're Egyptian and Jordanian Arabs for the most part.

296

Don't forget all the jokes that will get cracked when the anti-semites start coming out of the woodwork.

Posted by: buzzion at May 15, 2011 06:36 PM (9rOMf)

Around here we call them Paulistinians

297 Yep. That's why Al Capone worked out of Thousand Sticks, Kentucky.

298 288

...I'm sure yours is way better but for now I was more looking for a crockpot pulled pork recipe.

Posted by: Tami at May 15, 2011 06:40 PM (VuLos)

Sacrilege, I know, but this is my crockpot recipe:

Juice of one grapefruit

1/3 cup Rose's Lime Jiuce

1/4 cup white wine

Handful of sun dried tomatoes

Spicy pork rub, to taste

5-6 sweet peppadew peppers

Salt and pepper to taste

2 forzen pork tenderloins [come packaged together]

Dump it all into the crockpot at around 0800-0900, falls apart by 6 pm. Serve with cole slaw and sour cream; flour tortillas oprional

299 He is misapplying Jane Jacobs' theory that neighborhoods with lots of street level small business are safer than the sterile wastelands of public housing and modern apartment blocks-despite the latter generally having more open "green" space.

Essentially, IIRC, in The Death and Life of Great American Cities, she argues that when neighborhoods mix both reasonably low density (for an urban area) population with a plethora of small businesses, even a low income area with lots of transients can develop enough of a sense of community that they know and watch out for each other, and immediately note any outsiders.

Meanwhile, progtards like Yglesias, who are busily moving into the new highrise apartment blocks built in formerly low density neighborhoods (like Long Island City), are too busy trying to score stupid debating points against suburbs and small towns to even notice they are creating new crime zones.

Fucking retards.

300 pulled pork from a crockpot? what the fuck kind of sacrilege is that?

301 Hey, remember when Jordan and Egypt tripped all over themselves from 1948 to 1967 to grant Palestine independence in the West Bank and Gaza? 

302 294 Museisluse, you near Oberlin? We drove through there to get to my dad's place. You could smell the liberal stench.

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at May 15, 2011 06:44 PM (MyByM)

No, my kid is inching towards being a conservative there- he graduates in 2 weeks- none too soon.

303 the lifeblood of a city is its burbs. take away a city's metro and it disappears. the burbs are an extension of the city itself. look at phoenix or atlanta, or even charlotte NC.

this yglesias guy is a r-tard who lives on a distant planet or....something.

304 The Ghost of Paul Kersey is laughing as he pudding dips during this story.

305 goddamn mick jagger was a doofy looking guy in his altamont days...

306 #34 People who live in high density areas often have quite a lot of money.  Price for a two bedroom two bath new construction condo in Astoria, NY:  $400,000+.

What, you want a house?  Well you can have a two story rowhouse-which you will have to reconvert from the three to four apartments into which it is subdivided if you want the place to yourself for the low low price of only $600,000-$1,000,000.  Postage stamp size front "yard" and off-street parking optional-at additional cost.

307 308:

It's true. The backwoods are infested with cannibalism. My wife and I eat each other every time we go out in the country for a picnic.

308

Those cannibalism stories are completely true, just last week I was invited over to a friend's house for dinner. Was served some new dish called "soylent green" which I thought was some soy based product. Well, come to find out, after I had my fill, that my friends had just served me people.

That's right, soylent green is people!

309

 My wife and I eat each other every time we go out in the country for a picnic.

TMI! TMI!

310 Yglesias probably thinks that with the RIGHT people running things, all city living will be like an episode of "Friends"

311 Trader Sam, the head salesman of my company, invited me over for dinner. I told him his wife makes a great stew and he said, "Yeah, but I sure am gonna miss her."

I also told him I didn't like his brother. He told me to try the lamb.

312 Come on you wingnuts, the country is a death trap. Haven't you all seen Blair Witch Project or Friday the 13th?

313 With Megan McArdle and Peter Suderman, huh? Remember everyone, above a certain point, politics is irrelevant. There are the elites, and then there are the worthless scum shits. Guess which we are to them.

314 George: "When we get into the city, we'll make a break for it. They're not gonna shoot us in the city!"

Jerry: "Right. Nobody ever gets shot in the city"

315 My wife and I eat each other every time we go out in the country for a picnic.
I do that too but not with the wife.

316 316 Trader Sam, the head salesman of my company, invited me over for dinner. I told him his wife makes a great stew and he said, "Yeah, but I sure am gonna miss her."

I also told him I didn't like his brother. He told me to try the lamb.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom & Sith Lord at May 15, 2011 06:59 PM (YxBuk)

"I got to tell you; I never really cared for mother."

"What do you mean?  You've had two helpings!"

317 In Russia, oxygen causes cannibalism. In Wisconsin it's raglan t-shirts and Steely Dan records.

318 315 Yglesias probably thinks that with the RIGHT people running things, all city living will be like an episode of "Friends"

Posted by: kbdabear at May 15, 2011 06:58 PM (vdfwz)

--What, you can't just leave your apartment unlocked all hours of the day in Manhattan?

319 Video representation of the above joke.

320

Dump it all into the crockpot at around 0800-0900, falls apart by 6 pm. Serve with cole slaw and sour cream; flour tortillas oprional

Posted by: Museisluse at May 15, 2011 06:49 PM (a8aqn)

Thanks!  Copied & saved too!

pulled pork from a crockpot? what the fuck kind of sacrilege is that?

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 15, 2011 06:50 PM (6IReR)

I know...I know.....I already went outside and said penance.

321 In Soviet Russia, direct object act on subject.

322 321 316 Trader Sam, the head salesman of my company, invited me over for dinner. I told him his wife makes a great stew and he said, "Yeah, but I sure am gonna miss her."

I also told him I didn't like his brother. He told me to try the lamb.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom & Sith Lord at May 15, 2011 06:59 PM (YxBuk)

"I got to tell you; I never really cared for mother."

"What do you mean?  You've had two helpings!"

Posted by: buzzion at May 15, 2011 07:03 PM

"I hate my sister's guts!"

"Shut up and have another bowl"

323

Hey Matt. This is what you get for living in a dump of a city and not carrying a gun.

Shaddup.

I live in a town of 600. Everyone leaves their cars running when they go in the post office. Young girls and elderly people walk the streets alone at all hours with no problems. A lot of people never lock their doors, and leave them standing open all over town on a typical summer day. Since you know the cars at most houses, you also know the people aren't home.

Try that shit in your superior city, Matt.

324

"pulled pork" is just a euphemism, right, you really mean long pork don't you? You've got a pesky neighbor in the freezer and you need to cook her before she spoils.

325 323 315 Yglesias probably thinks that with the RIGHT people running things, all city living will be like an episode of "Friends"

Posted by: kbdabear at May 15, 2011 06:58 PM (vdfwz)

--What, you can't just leave your apartment unlocked all hours of the day in Manhattan?

Posted by: logprof at May 15, 2011 07:06 PM (BP6Z1)

When you can live in a spacious 3 bedroom apartment in Manhattan on a waitress's earnings, anything is possible

326

"pulled pork" is just a euphemism, right, you really mean long pork don't you? You've got a pesky neighbor in the freezer and you need to cook her before she spoils.

Posted by: ParanoidWorkingGirlinSeattle at May 15, 2011 07:08 PM (RZ8pf)

shhhhh........

327 In Soviet Russia, accusative case switch with nominative case.

328 Congrats to your kid, Museisluse.

329

"Shut up and have another bowl"

I picked the wrong thread to start reading from the bottom.

330 When you can live in a spacious 3 bedroom apartment in Manhattan on a waitress's earnings, anything is possible

Posted by: Ross Geller at May 15, 2011 07:09 PM (vdfwz)

When you write a weekly romance column in a minor city newspaper, you've hit the big time, baby!

331 your right kbear, i was on a rode trip with my dad once and we did some drinking in San Antonio then headed towards Houston....... as soon as we got on the rode he said i'm going to bed for awhile you drive, whatever you do dont drive through Houston.... Stop and wake me up and let me drive through....... because i didnt have a CDL. he didnt say a word about the 10,000 hills i had togo over........went over the last hill and damn i was in the lights and nowhere to stop........ i went all the way through it scared shitless at 3 in the morning....... he woke up at day light and said have damn where are we...... i said about to eat breakfest in New Orleans................

332 Crowded cities have been devolving humanity and allowing group psychosis to fester since soddom and gomorroh.   As someone who has worked off Michigan ave, corn fields, and glaciers I have an above average amount of insight into this.  Humans in rural areas alone and vulnerable to the forces of nature, well reality has leash on them that it doesn't on city sardines don't. 

In the country if your house is on fire or you need a ride into town your likely to rely on a neighbor.  Even those you may have bad blood with will eventually come to your rescue during some sort of storm or wildfire and vice versa.  Things city people only experience during severe once every 50 year type events.   Rural living truly does create a superior life expereince on many levels that city life squashes.  Notice crazy enviro terrorists come from suburbs and cities not small towns.   Or to quote Herbert, "polish from the cities and wisdom from the desert." 

Cities and their daily reality create more lefties then academia and the MSM combined.  You step over a homeless person while simultaneously being passed by a guy in a 250k car, the world will feel all out of wack and in need of justice.  You see 500 people a day but one tree and someone cuts that one tree down it will feel like an atrocity.

Geoffrey West did the numbers here (warning NYTimes link)

http://tinyurl.com/3wtfpty

or for lighter reading this Cracked.com article also covers it.

http://tinyurl.com/48d2vjn

With the internet we have a first in history opportunity to dismantle and suck the momentum out of cities.  If even 10% of modern jobs can be done over the internet.  And we get fast cheap internet into rural areas.  Then small towns that have been in a recession since the 70's can start to have money flow into them again.  The realities and healthier balance of rural living will constantly undermine leftiest psychosis among other things.

The numbers I have seen (that parallel with Australias current project) we could have given the entire country something like 100mb internet for 30$ a month for 1/10 the the cost of the stimulus.  Even doubling the cost 1/5 the cost of the stimulus would revitalize Americas rural communtiy and the numbers of those who think like in terms along conservatives.  Past projects to revitalize rural America were high cost low benefit project like road work, manuf plants, and shipping hubs.  The internet for the cheap cost of cable run down the roadways could have an enormous amount of fortuitous side effects.  Seriously even Australia is 10-20 years ahead of us on this.

333

I interrupt this thread to notify you that I. Have. Arrived.

I posted this on my blog to point out that those who criticized the US for the demise of bin Leaden were afflicted with Postmodernism.

Here's my one and only comment in its entirety.

Anonymous said... You are clearly an untter moron. You know nothing of Postmodernism. A cultural condition in which WE ALL live, and have done since the end of the 60's. Grow up and yes, I mean that in a mental sense not a physical one. Go read something without your idiot tinted lenses on. From postmodernism, capitalism emerged, something your little country of America, can't seem to do without so get your facts right. It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with 'right or wrong'. Postmodernism is unescapable, moron. So deal with it.

Is it wrong for me to feel proud?

334 Liberals never dissappoint. 1 minute on the innertubes and you find that the 20 largest cities have higher crime rate per capita than that nations average. You can also find that Baltimore, Detroint and D.C have the highest crime rate per capita while 3 rual counties have the lowest.

335 A conservative is a liberal who's been mugged.

A ThinkProgress blogger is a liberal who's been mugged and decided it was because he took the wrong shortcut.

336 Hey Matt. This is what you get for living in a dump of a city and not carrying a gun. Shaddup. I live in a town of 600. Everyone leaves their cars running when they go in the post office. Young girls and elderly people walk the streets alone at all hours with no problems. A lot of people never lock their doors, and leave them standing open all over town on a typical summer day. Since you know the cars at most houses, you also know the people aren't home. Try that shit in your superior city, Matt. Posted by: Meremortal at May 15, 2011 07:07 PM (Usk3+) Heh. Same here in Goreville, Illinois where it is an actual city ordinance, not enforced and done to say >Fuck You to Morton Grove back in the 80's, that you must own a handgun. I have no idea where the keys to my house are. Have had no use for them in 18 years on Lake of Egypt and that includes leaving for 2 week stints with the Guard. Hey Mattie, don't look now, but that was your pathetic worldview smacking you upside your head, you little girl.

337

Is it wrong for me to feel proud?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at May 15, 2011 07:17 PM (d0Tfm)

Meh.

338 I think this turd just made the whole thing up. It doesn't ring true unless he's such douchebag looking asshole that random strangers just couldn't let it pass.

Or he pissed off that couple and they decide to follow him after getting him drunk.
A postmodernism posting most likely, or a Lefty in search of that ever elusive reality.

339 Note to self:  Use guest-blogging priveliges to post threads on Sunday afternoon at approximately 4 o'clock.  They'll still be at the top of the blog when the next ice age comes.

340 In Soviet Russia dick beat you.

341

 I mean I lived in a townhouse sandwiched between the townhouses of two single men and listening to their sex lives night after night got old fast.

It was the neighbor who had loud sex and then sobbed for 45 minutes that got on my nerves.

342 I also told him I didn't like his brother. He told me to try the lamb.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom & Sith Lord at May 15, 2011 06:59 PM (YxBuk)

 

I highly recommend the blacksmith.

343 i live in a small town, 2 killed in the last 10 years. one from a tornado, one drowned in the river.......

344

It was the neighbor who had loud sex and then sobbed for 45 minutes that got on my nerves.

Ouch! This was definitely the wrong thread to read from the bottom, too.

I'm still proud to be a Moron.

345 It was the neighbor who had loud sex and then sobbed for 45 minutes that got on my nerves.

So many punchlines.  So little time....

346 Global warming caused the Ig-lazy-ass bitch slapping

347

I live in a town of 600. Everyone leaves their cars running when they go in the post office.

Even in the border town of 35,000 I lived in, people still did that. Car thefts started going up one year* and so the police started an educatiion campaign to get people to stop leaving their keys in the car while they were at Walmart and had a bunch of packages in the back.

Rates dropped back down.

*If you car was stolen, you never saw it again because it was over the border in a few minutes.

My favorite crime wave was the one where someone broke into houses in the middle of the night, grabbed the car keys and took the car. Very polite not to disturb people or anything.

348 From postmodernism, capitalism emerged

A strange assertion, to say the least, about a movement that emerged a century after Adam Smith (at the earliest) and even then only in reference to art. Economically, it's been described as "the dominant cultural logic of late capitalism." (Fredric Jameson)

But I guess I, too, have my idiot tinted lenses on, so oppressive, patriarchialist, subtextual notions like chronology and cause-and-effect still hold small over my tiny, "untter moron" mind. And to think, I walk by the Humana Building a couple of times a week. You'd think the subdialectic paradigm would rub off on me better.

349

i live in a small town, 2 killed in the last 10 years. one from a tornado, one drowned in the river.......

I think it's high time your town council passed some anti-tornado and anti-river laws. This madness needs to stop.

350 So many punchlines.  So little time....

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 15, 2011 07:28 PM (7utQ2)

go ahead, this thread is going to be here a while

351 I carry an unregistered pistol, so they would be er dead.  I have found that thugs can smell weapons. 

You show no fear and bait them, they go away or you get to kill them.

Win Win!

352

It was the neighbor who had loud sex and then sobbed for 45 minutes that got on my nerves.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 15, 2011 07:25 PM (XdlcF)

The man or the woman? 

353

Shoot me now.  I'm babysitting my nieces and one of them has decided to play the hannah montana game on Wii.

354 Oakland has turned into a major shit hole and Union City where I had an apartment before I moved to Castro Valley has been taken over by Hispanic Gangs.

Posted by: Vic at May 15, 2011 05:01 PM (M9Ie6)

I really do believe that when the next Big One happens, they will make a lot of trouble around here...

355 Oh, and don't drop the pistol now, DNA shit. Take it home.

356

OT, but I had nothing(and no one) to do last night, so i watched the entire SNL.

It was pretty bad as expected, and it's still like 30-40% political skits, but the opening Obama skit was pretty funny.

It essentially made fun of how he says nothing but "Bin Laden" on the campaign trail.

It wasn't harsh and biting in the same way Bush's were, but it's still a solid jab at Obama.

I was pleasantly suprised to see it. Obviously the rest of the show was anti republican, as expected

357

Shoot me now.  I'm babysitting my nieces and one of them has decided to play the hannah montana game on Wii.

Posted by: buzzion at May 15, 2011 07:34 PM (9rOMf)

You don't have to tell us why you have the hannah montana game on your Wii.

358 In Soviet Russia ass kiss you.

359

My daughter, my dog and I all had Lyme Disease while living in Bryn Mawr

I only know one person who has that and he lives in Drexel Hill. Hmmm.

Ouch! This was definitely the wrong thread to read from the bottom, too.

I'm not sure reading it from the top would have helped.

That woman worried me..but ya know, since it was in Philly, it was probably caused by Lyme disease.

360

You don't have to tell us why you have the hannah montana game on your Wii.

Posted by: robtr at May 15, 2011 07:37 PM (MtwBb)

I'm babysitting at their home smartass

361 Oh, and don't drop the pistol now, DNA shit. Take it home.

Posted by: Kemp at May 15, 2011 07:36 PM (JpFM9)

I suppose you'd leave the cannoli.

362

The man or the woman? 

Woman. So I guess it could have been worse.

363 Are you sure the neighbour had a partner, Mama?

364

I think it's high time your town council passed some anti-tornado and anti-river laws. This madness needs to stop.

Posted by: Ben at May 15, 2011 07:32 PM (DKV43)

we do have a couple of police cars now so who knows what is next?

365 Holy hell.  This thread is still going?  Someone kill the fucking bunny!

366 I've had every garbage-ass little kid game for the Wii ever made.  Thank God for GameStop, who will give you some of your money back when your four-year-old realizes the game you bought is thin and lame.

367 In Soviet Russia balls hang you!

368 Mattyew always had a strange fear of erfwurms and live fish.

369

Oakland has turned into a major shit hole

I was there when Wilson B Goode dropped the bomb on John Africa so don't think I didn't live there for three fucking years.

Now is probably not the time to mention where I grew up and then went to college.

370

X-rays of his head showed nothing.

I'm glad he's not hurt; something similar happened to me in DC (Georgetown) once and it wasn't, er, pleasant. And I'm 6'4".

As to his sociological cum criminal justice analysis: hit him again.

Just kidding.

 

371 Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel at May 15, 2011 06:20 PM (GKQDR)

South Koreans are pretty cool people.

372

Posted by: Dodd at May 15, 2011 07:31 PM (ipxVy)

To coin a phrase, so much confusion, so little time to correct it.

Codified insanty, thy name is Postmodernism.

373 Landlords say Newark man refuses to pay rent, trashes apartments, then ties them up in court for the last 19 fucking years!

Not only does he dress the part, Mark Newton knows the law. In fact, an exhaustive Star-Ledger review of his court filings shows that for at least 19 years he has made Superior, chancery, federal and municipal courtrooms his virtual offices, representing himself in hundreds of court battles — though he has no license to practice law.

His specialty? Avoiding eviction. And he is relentlessly effective.

...

Neighbors, judges, landlordÂ’s family members and attorneys all have found themselves in NewtonÂ’s crosshairs. If there is a more active pro se litigant in New Jersey, no one has heard of it. Mark Newton is the pro se king.

"He learned to work the system in such a way that he could take me to several different courts,Â’Â’ said Karyn Stewart, who claims she spent $5,000 in attorney fees trying to evict Newton. "ThereÂ’s probably not a landlord in Essex County who doesnÂ’t know Mark Newton. Somebody has got to put a stop to him.Â’Â’

The Newton system, according to court documents and dozens of interviews with adversaries, goes something like this: The 51-year old Newark man moves his family into an apartment or house, and soon stops paying rent. He then complains about unsavory living conditions that, landlords say, he created. At some point, his attack escalates and conditions in the rented apartment or house
worsen, lawyers and landlords say. Newton continues to complain. Next, lawyers and landlords say, he calls code enforcement and accuses landlords of renting substandard housing.

From there, the legal battle is on.

It starts in municipal court, where landlords must answer NewtonÂ’s alleged code violations. Eventually, the fight moves to eviction proceedings in the Landlord/Tenant Section of state Superior Court.

374 378 Posted by: Stateless Canadian Infidel at May 15, 2011 06:20 PM (GKQDR)

South Koreans are pretty cool people.

Posted by: KG at May 15, 2011 07:45 PM (4L0zr)

Just be quiet if you think Starcraft is a lame game.

375 Isnt' postmodernism just another name for malaise?  If it was on a test, I'd write that down:  malaise.

376

Are you sure the neighbour had a partner, Mama?

Oh..Now it all makes sense! _{Except for the gratuitous U, of course.}

377 The new Rio game is cool because you can tell your kids 'I'll play 5 games' which sounds like a lot to them, but the games only last 60 secs, so you only have to play for a few minutes.

378 "60 Minutes" came on after the golf tournament- this segment is about those horrible "sovereign citizen" people out there, using the example of a father/son pair of assholes. When do suppose this group of shills will ever cover the muslims who fund terrorists or try to set up explosions or even the creep in the army who shot up Ft. Hood? [maybe I missed it- I try to NEVER watch this old fart show, but hubby has the remote]

379 Isnt' postmodernism just another name for malaise?

Intellectual malaise.  It's a subjectivity-driven copout.

380

but hubby has the remote 

That was your first mistake.

381 Oops- that didn't come out right- hubby is not an old fart, he just has the remote.

382 MamaAJ, your car theft story reminded me of a notice we got from the building at work. Apparently thieves go into our parking garage and steal third row seats from SUVs. They steal GPS units too, but I stealing third row seats seems bizarre to me.

383 South Koreans are pretty cool people.

Posted by: KG at May 15, 2011 07:45 PM (4L0zr)

Just be quiet if you think Starcraft is a lame game.

Posted by: buzzion at May 15, 2011 07:47 PM (9rOMf)

They are and I so have to learn Starcraft 2 before I get back. The kids always raved about it.

384

Isnt' postmodernism just another name for malaise?

It goes much deeper, psychologically, than that. All the way to the hollow core of shallow people who seem willing to believe any trendy thing in order to "look hip" to their buds.

That comment just reinforced everything that's wrong with it.

385 Don't hate us for our Us, Mama, or I'll be the one doing the crying.
8=^(

[See you all later on the ONT.]

386 If I encounter those brothers (outside of a dark alley, of course) who beat his balls off, I'd be pleased to buy them each a drink. Malt liquor would be appropriate, I presume.

387

>>Posted by: Truman North at May 15, 2011 07:47 PM (K2wpv)

It's the loophole that allows the Left to lie with impunity, the absence of a definable reality. Pretty much the opposite of Rand's Objectivism

388 O/T:  This guy reminds me of this guy and this guy.

389 Posted by: momma at May 15, 2011 07:47 PM (penCf)

I could have his ass out of the place in less than ten minutes.

390 What are you supposed to do about that, Rum? Drive a Prius?

391 Liberal Journalist Explains How Obama Could Decree Federal Control Over Private Corporations to Unionize & Regulate Them Using Laws Already on the Books

392 Momma, I know people who long for this result.  And not all of them are retards.

393 In Soviet Russia, fart cut you.

394 Posted by: momma at May 15, 2011 07:58 PM (penCf)

that was the most frightening article I saw today.  

395

Don't hate us for our Us, Mama, or I'll be the one doing the crying.

No hate, but I'm going to call you andycanck to even things out.

396 They steal GPS units too, but I stealing third row seats seems bizarre to me.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom & Sith Lord at May 15, 2011 07:55 PM (YxBuk)

gotta be someone like most of my freinds that want a seat togo in the bed for their truck. that or Hobo's wanting a new bed?

397 Dear Golly, I hate these fuckers:

Richard Clarke To Bill 'You're not Christian if you're happy OBL is dead' Maher: Bush Deserves Zero Credit For Finding Bin Laden

“I don’t know why that’s controversy? The man did nothing about Bin Laden until 9/11. And after 9/11 he kind of did it for a few months – kind of. He sent troops into Afghanistan, but didn’t tell them to get Bin Laden.”

Clarke reminded everyone that the CIA was ordered fifteen years ago to get Bin Laden, and argued that if Bush hadn’t shifted the focus to Iraq during his presidency, we would have captured or killed Bin Laden much sooner. Although many claim it was a “mosaic” of intelligence gathered throughout both administrations that resulted in learning Bin Laden’s whereabouts, it seems Clarke is not eager to allow Bush any part in the celebration.

398 stealing third row seats seems bizarre to me.

Posted by: Rum, Goddess of Doom & Sith Lord at May 15, 2011 07:55 PM (YxBuk)

If the van they were stealing these from were used vans/suvs or they came from Mexico, then the logical conclusion is that is where the drugs were hidden.  Far back enough to not get the pat down like the first/second seats.

399 Buzzion,

Why would they want to go after the people in the monument areas?

I just meant DC ranked 22 despite large heavily policed, mostly crime free areas.  But, Hey we beat Newark.

I've actually driven around Camden in daylight with a buddy in an old style yellow VW asking directions.  People ran from us like we were the rookie, moron entrapment squad.  The best directions we got were from a guy too drunk to walk.

400 Truman,
Hide the suit til you're in the enclosure.

401 359

It was the neighbor who had loud sex and then sobbed for 45 minutes that got on my nerves.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 15, 2011 07:25 PM (XdlcF)

The man or the woman? 

Posted by: Tami at May 15, 2011 07:34 PM (VuLos)

Hey, sometimes I sob for 45 minutes.  Because, you know, I'm not getting any.

402 There's only one solution to street crime: high speed rail!

403 396 Posted by: momma at May 15, 2011 07:47 PM (penCf)

I could have his ass out of the place in less than ten minutes.

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 15, 2011 07:57 PM (6IReR)

New Jersey?  Hell, there's definitely someone around you can pay to make this guy go away.

404 Richard Clarke To Bill 'You're not Christian if you're happy OBL is dead' Maher: Bush Deserves Zero Credit For Finding Bin Laden

If you look up putz, there will be a picture of Clarke. I wonder when/if "The Path to 9/11" will ever be released on DVD? I am on the notification list at Amazon....

405

I'm sure yours is way better but for now I was more looking for a crockpot pulled pork recipe.

Posted by: Tami at May 15, 2011 06:40 PM (VuLos)

Purists won't like it but this is what we do.

1. 4-5 lb pork shoulder roast in crockpot on low for 6-8 hours. Season with salt and pepper.

2.  Pull roast out, shred, drain about half of the fat and juices out of crockpot. 

3. Put shredded meat back in crockpot, add BBQ sauce, mix well and cook on low for another 30-45 minutes.

4. Buns, slaw, etc. for condiments.

The pulled pork sandwich for nonpurists.

406

The pulled pork sandwich for nonpurists.

Posted by: long toss at May 15, 2011 08:13 PM (AJzgk)

Thanks long toss....saved that too!

407 Well, we didn't =get= rabies. That's what the shots were for. Duh. [We ran into a bat, and the bat flew away before we could kill it and check its brains out. It probably didn't have rabies, but we weren't going to take the chance.] It's not like we're out in the middle of nowhere. We're in NYC suburbs. But it's one of those small towns in Westchester that has more horse farms than people. And yeah, there are lots of ticks in our yard, no matter how much we try to deal with that. And raccoons. And coyotes on the hill. And skunks that keep getting run over by Metro North trains that go by our house. Mmmm dead skunk smell.

408 Becuase a igorant flatlander kid sees a pile of milk bottles and say OH LOOK A COWS NEST

409 Matt grew up on the upper east side. All you need to know.

410 I figured he went to Horace Mann cause it is "sort of a prep school for those that can't get into the more prestigious ones" but he went to Dalton, his dad went to Horace Mann.  

Fascinating wiki pages.  He seems like every pompous jackass I grew up with.


wiki 1....him
wiki 2.....his dad

411 He's (and I know no one will be surprised at this) an idiot. How do you reach that conclusion? The way liberals reach most of the conclusions that they pull out of their asses and then concoct post facto rationalizations for: Pure nonempirical and invalid rationalism. He creates a few ad hoc premises, then invalidly infers the conclusion that isn't actually implied by the premises. The important thing is that the premises are completely unsupported, ad hoc postulations. Here's one: "if a given patch of land has more citizens, that means it can also support a larger base of police officers." Really? Tell it to the people left in Detroit. It does not MEAN that in the least. Moreover, he insists on the formula despite the blatant, smacked-in-the-face empirical disproof of what he thinks he's going to prove. He has to, because he knows what he has to justify: All the moronic prejudices liberals have for cities, such as the one he lives in. It's special pleading through very special stupidity.

412 Posted by: momma at May 15, 2011 07:47 PM (penCf)

--Wow, a real-life Michael Keaton from Pacific Heights.

413 Seeing that picture of Matthew Yglesias makes all this so transparent now.  You see, his sloping forehead and pronounced brow ridge clearly point to a pre-human physique and reasoning ability, likely on a level resembling Australopithecus boisei.  From visual inspection, his cranial volume is at the peak average of that species at 530cc (by comparison, the average Homo sapiens moronus cranial capacity is around 2000cc).

While this doesn't entirely excuse his propensity to shit on the living room floor during cocktail parties, it certainly explains his inability to follow through on basic logical arguments beyond the point of whether or not a specific object is edible, or of sufficient girth to insert into his own anus in order to generate an adequate amount hypothalamic pleasure.

414 Is there a website?  I want to contribute.  To the punks, of course. 

Call it an educational donation.  He'll get it, some day.  if not, hit him harder.

Hey, it worked for my drill instructors.

415 Ace or Pixie, you really need to implement a recaptcha system to get rid of the annoying spam.

416 I'm in a large city of 7 million. Specifically, HK.

Crime rates are extraordinarily low.

Guess what there aren't a lot of?

I'm not saying there's a correlation, mind you, but...

417

Liberals want to re-form society into nothing but cities.  They hate suburbs, or even worse, rural areas.

I see it all the time locally when I read the local "atlernative" newspaper (by the way, I'm not sure what it is "alternative" to, since it says exactly what the mainstream paper says, just with a little more vitriol).  They constantly have editorials from people talking about how horrible the suburbs are and how everyone should move into the city to make the city better.

Part of it is that they realize their tax base left the City b/c of all the b.s. liberal schemes City gov't gets into and they need the money.  Part of it is that the City School are abysmal and they want the good students back so that they can claim their liberal school schemes work.  Part of it is that the burbs tend to vote republican, and they want to dilute that vote.  Part of it is gaia worship and desire to force everyone to use mass transit.

But I think the biggest part of it is the belief that the City is where "culture" is, and where "smart people" live. Thus, everyone living outside of the City is a hick and ignorent and needs to be re-educated in the City.

418 Full of ignorant flatlanders  who whine about the prices of   food,fuel, and electricity then still send off $500 to the wackos from GREENPEACE to save the polarbears and send in those dumb postcards to oppse drilling in the ANWR while using their fragile earth poppycock

419 "Posted by: monkeytoe at May 16, 2011 08:15 AM (sOx93)" YES These urban hipsters have no idea whatsoever about life outside their little city bubbles. No idea what goes on outside their bubbles, including the stuff that makes their urban hipster lifestyles possible. Like, you know . . . farms.