1 I am simultaneously bummed and bored.Good thing the ONT is up.  Thank you Dave. Ohio Dan

2 Obama is a SCOAMF

3 and also I suck at this ONT thing.

Eh, B+ for effort, DiT.  Thank you! 

Does this mean I can make fun of Tony Romo again?

4 no way 1st SCFOMF er

5 Yaaaay you put up the picture!

My contribution:

"I am a pretty princess!  I am!  I am!"

6 4 peeps here, really?

7 Like fire ants weren't bad enough.

I for one welcome our insect overlords

8

Ehh,

Ohhvunitediss.

9 They should give Romo a frilly, pink hankie to wipe away his tears of shame.

10 I wanna hear what PGiS has to say.

11 Falcons won and I am going to bed. Will read all the funny in the morning.

12 And Michelle is married to a SCFOAMF

13 I wanna hear what PGiS has to say.

Me too, Miss Tammy!  Should be interesting.

14 Matter and the Ghost Light say the MN fracking lost and there is sadness here

15

Does this mean I can make fun of Tony Romo again?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 02, 2011 10:32 PM (c0A3e)

Why would you ever stop?

16

Dave, Are the guest bloggers beginning to buckle under the pressure yet?

 

17 Uh oh, I'm watching the Tudors, season one and the sweating sickness has hit.  Bummer.

18 The Philly Dream Team also blew a huge lead to the Niners and lost today

That's one of the easy games on the schedule

19 Eh, I've seen worse.

20 The Philly Dream Team also blew a huge lead to the Niners and lost today

Cowboys Epic Fail, the Iggles lose and the Yankees lose, the Yaaaannnkkkeeesss lose.  Today was a good day. 

21

Why would you ever stop?

He wasn't whining as much as Vick about "late" hits and he played through last week game with rib injuries pretty well, so I figured he had toughened up.  *shrugs*.  Perhaps I was mistaken.

22 Uh oh, I'm watching the Tudors, season one and the sweating sickness has hit.  Bummer.

Is that worth watching? My favorite time period, but I am afraid of what Hollywood has wrought upon it.

23 Epic EPIC failure. Can we fire Wade Phillips again?

24 Still waiting for the G-Spot explanation post , dammit .

25 This is a weak ONT thread content wise.

26

Ohio Dan,

Boredom is inexcusable, unless your wife drags you to a play wherein which you fall asleep, your wife nudges you hard on the shoulder you wake up to find a cast memeber on stage staring / glaring right at you. That was last night.

But tonight....  

I have discovered a new beer called, Flat Tire and am drinking a collection of their brew, one being the 'Ranger India Pale Ale' a fine production and combination of smooth excentuated with a fullness of taste and a gobbery of alcohol.

 

27 So for Gun Sunday... one of my Remington M700's has a cool new feature.... when you take the safety off the thing fires. So if you got a 700 do a function test. serious. Also always keep yo' rifle pointed in a safe direction.

28 This looks ripe for invasion by the Moron Horde.

29 18 The Philly Dream Team also blew a huge lead to the Niners and lost today I read that at first as "blew a huge load". Which would have been more interesting than most of the games I watched this weekend.

30 #24, you'll have better luck getting women to explain the real reason why they "need" so many shoes and handbags before they'll tell you about that.

31 the Yankees lose, the Yaaaannnkkkeeesss lose

It's a trap. They're sucking us in. I have a very bad feeling about this.

Perhaps I'm still suffering fits of pessimism from the massive Braves implosion.

32

And then thereÂ’s this from Kaiser, from a speech he gave in July 2009 in Tulsa:

“There’s never been more money shoved out of the government’s door in world history and probably never will be again than in the last few months and the next 18 months, and our selfish, parochial goal is to get as much of it for Tulsa and Oklahoma as we possibly can.”

Nice.  I think I might just change my mind about ObamaÂ’s attitude toward billionaires.  Or at least the rapacious ones who support him.

33 So, Truman North told us that he had inside info that Christie would declare this weekend.  Is this where we gently mock him?

With brickbats?

34 Miss Tammy.  I'm just starting watch season one.  So far it has been pretty good, lots of dastardly characters and bodice ripping sex.  These people would bang anything that moved.

35

"Uh oh, I'm watching the Tudors, season one and the sweating sickness has hit. Bummer."

So what was the "sweating sickness" anyway?  the flu? 

Also, for the record Tom Brady's hair cut sucks - he looks like f'n hipster.  His long Dune hair sucked too.  That is all.

36 And I blamed Jessica Simpson. Homo is a bigger girl than even Jess. Or her dad.

37 I see John E. got an HA headline.   Brown noser.

38

Journolist at October 02, 2011 10:40 PM

Journalist, That is the kind of witty repertoire I so enjoy at the ONT drinking, belching and womanizing establishment.

39 18 The Philly Dream Team also blew a huge lead to the Niners and lost today

That's one of the easy games on the schedule

The Iggle's D-line is about as porous as my gray-matter right now.  Eagle receivers also are having a hard time with ball control.  Don't you learn how to cover the ball while you are running during Pee-Wee football?

40 Another gun Sunday. Any revolver shooters here? Can you shoot .41 special in a .41 magnum? same with .44 special and .44 magnum?

41

Oh and to top it off last night, my wife had to wear some new shoes that she had to have.... only thing is she found that she couldn't walk in them and had to stop about every 20 feet because they kept slipping off.

It was comedy gold.

42 I suffered through a couple of weeks of perrygasms. Lord please, oh please tell the fat man not to run. I do not think I could survive the christiegasms.

43 Univision hates Marco Rubio.

My guess is because he doesn't toe the line.

A drug story about Marcos' brother in law being arrested when Marco was 16 years old - link below. Link goes to the Miami Herald

It's going to be a nasty year.

http://t.co/b1lBTYZ7

44 33 So, Truman North told us that he had inside info that Christie would declare this weekend.  Is this where we gently mock him?

With brickbats?
Posted by: AmishDude at October 02, 2011 10:42 PM

Chris Christie is the backup quarterback who everyone thinks would bring a winning streak if they'd only bench the starting QB

"The most popular guy with the fans is always the backup QB"

45 42 I suffered through a couple of weeks of perrygasms. Lord please, oh please tell the fat man not to run. I do not think I could survive the christiegasms.

Um, don't read this then:

Gov. Christie has team investigating 2012 bid

46

"The most popular guy with the fans is always the backup QB"

Yeah - that's what I was saying last weekend watching the patriots - Where the hell is Scott Zolak when you need him?

 

47 More hilarity with People of Walmart pics:

Sweet Release -

48 Eagle receivers also are having a hard time with ball control.
 
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 02, 2011 10:43 PM

I can coach them on that!

49 Kratos, The fat man is more than welcome to run, imo that is. In fact, the more the merrier I say. It's not Christie at all, it will those those folks that claim Christie is our newest messiah, that I don't want to suffer through.

50 I suffered through a couple of weeks of perrygasms. Lord please, oh please tell the fat man not to run. I do not think I could survive the christiegasms.

You ain't seen nothing yet. After me, the deluge

51

But one of the highlights of last evening was me walking around with a tumbler of vodka and tonic and watching my wife negotiate with the will call window folks who had misplaced our tickets while the line started forming, my wife is sharp as a tack and next thing I know, we are sitting up front at a play that never should have been made into one where I could not hide my slumber.

During intermission, we landed at a small lobby bar and I told my wife what I thought of the play and she said, "sweetie, you read the review didn't you."  I said no but if you did, why are we here?

52 Sweating sickness.

http://tinyurl.com/3b29tef

53

I have two items that rate high on the wish we had never bought.  1st is the pair of boots my wife wore to a show that blew out her knee.  That was followed by ineffective knee surgery and, 1 year later, total knee replacement.    Second was the night we decided to make home made caramel Apples.  Read the instructions people!  I didn't!  Apparently, if you nuke the carmel and forget to add 3 or 4 tablespoons of water it becomes a superglue covers apple cabable of sucking caps off my wife's teeth.  I know this to be a fact.

54

Does Mitt Romney's Squishy Northeastern brand of Republicanism make you uncomfortable?  Are you unsatisfied with Perry's views on "Immigration" (but not really immigration)? 

Then vote for the guy that will combine both of these issues into one!

55 I was just saying, know what this race needs? Another hail mary run by Mike Huckabee

56 LOL Jets.

57 37 I see John E. got an HA headline.   Brown noser.

I just can't keep all my interblog drameh straight anymore.  Maybe if I had an Infographic.

58 #56 very strange football game tonight.  Seems both offenses might want to have their defenses on the field as much as they can so they can score.   

59

Yeah but Ohio Dan,

You can always cheer her up with a balloon ride.

It must be spectacular this time of year, or maybe not, hot air ballooning seeing all of the fall colors.

 

60 I am thinking about drafting one J. McCain for pres. After all he was so succesful in 08 we might as well give him another try.

61 Home made caramel is a tricksy bastard.

There's another scenario where it refuses to stick to the apples at all, and you wake up in the morning to find it all over the refrigerator, where suddenly seems to remember how to stick with a vengeance.

62 Hahaha:

andylevy Andy Levy This game is the football equivalent of "Whitney."

63 @43

I should have added that the Miami Herald story is about how Univision tried to force Marco Rubio to appear on their network to discuss the Dream Act.

Give us what we want or we will tell the world your brother in law was arrested on a drug charge. Hey, we're the media, and if you appear we'll forget about it.

Mike

64 You know, while the chief Ewok is away, one would think we could indulge in an even lower level of skulduggery.

65 It's going to be a nasty year.

Oh, yeah, they are already starting because they are so far behind and anyone and everyone will be called a racist and/or have stories outright made up about them.  And there will be thuggery of course.

66 Shoot the first pundit who suggests that we draft McCain

67 I am thinking about drafting one J. McCain for pres. After all he was so succesful in 08 we might as well give him another try. Posted by: GMB at October 02, 2011 10:53 PM

He had his turn, darn it!

68 ""Apparently, if you nuke the carmel and forget to add 3 or 4 tablespoons of water it becomes a superglue covers apple cabable of sucking caps off my wife's teeth.  I know this to be a fact.""


Sounds like you could have used the carmel to glue the caps back in place. That carmel can be nasty stuff.

69 This may very well be the year that the MSM puts the last shreds of its credibility with the sliver of the public that still believes them into a wood chipper. They are too invested in their atomic fuck-up of a boyfriend to save themselves.

70 @66 Keeps those weapons pointed down range there. I am no pundit.

71 Yup, draft McCain cause he just isn't old...he's fucking ancient.

72 Bob Dole will not run if anyone wants to draft Bob Dole

73 I could always take another crack at it.

74 Good evening, all. That dress .... um, it must have taken a long time to assemble.

75

You know you are right.  I haven't taken my wife up for a ride in a while.  I will have to do that before the year is out.  Weather has been crappy for ballooning for a month or so but it has to get better.

76 Next thing the MSM is gonna have Christie, Calorie Count updates.

77 Why didn't they show a picture of the (supposedly) bulging metal camper filled with ants?  That sort of reporting drives me nuts!

Good evening, ladies and germs.

78 Tina gave me a new box of crayons and I'm going to write a Daily Beast column on how only Huntsman or daddy can win

79 Vote J. McCain for pres!! He just might petrify in office.

80 And these will be the bastids who may hold the levers of Egyptian power in a few months:

Good Grief. Obama Administration Held Meetings With Muslim Brotherhood Islamists

81 MissTammy, how was your weekend?

82

Hey guys it's me, MICHELLE,  I'm heading out to Target - anybody need anything?

(did anyone see the video where the president refers to "Michael and I" thanking some guy for his son's military service? funny stuff.  Like Ron Burgundy I guess.)

83 I think it is laughable how no "serious" election analysts are discussing the utter collapse of Obama in New Hampshire. It is a state his advisors are blindly listing in their firewall when in polling and hard election stats and registrations it is the newest "red" state now. The SCoaMF is down to fucking 31% approval there. He has higher approval in TEXAS. Yet everybody keeps masturbating over Nevada and Colorado and New Mexico and hell even PA.

84 HAIL ANTS !!!

85

You know you are right.  I haven't taken my wife up for a ride in a while.  I will have to do that before the year is out.  Weather has been crappy for ballooning for a month or so but it has to get better. Posted by: Ohio Dan at October 02, 2011 10:57 PM

I'm going to Albuquerque for the Balloon Fiesta this week and hoping for the weather to be good.

86 You know, while the chief Ewok is away, one would think we could indulge in an even lower level of skulduggery.

Okay, fine, you asked for it. I hope it isn't a repeat.
Language NSFW.

http://tinyurl.com/n853o3

87 I haven't taken my wife up for a ride in a while.

Yeah, and you wonder why I keep buying batteries by the case!

88 if you wanted to believe that white house insider guy (I want to, but can't), then they are planning some race riot type stuff to get the "great healer" re-elected.

89 Easy way to deal with the ants, import some ant eaters.  Simple as that without the need to place an order from Jack Napier at the Axis Chemical Company.

90

WTF is up today?

Cowboys blew it, hippies running wild about the country, but have no idea what they are pissed off about, Cain calls the race card out on Perry for no fucking reason, and frankly, the nfl looks like the wwf. Is there no relief?

91 Hello, Mindy!

My weekend, was okay, I know yours was not. My condolences on your loss. You should get a little package in the mail tomorrow that I hope will lift your spirits!

92 Never fear lou relief is here.  Hulk Hogan will have midget (dwarf or whatever they call it ) wrestling on teevee!

93

I'm going to Albuquerque for the Balloon Fiesta this week and hoping for the weather to be good.

Pics or it didn't happen.  Good luck!

94 Shoot the first pundit who suggests that we draft McCain

Can we shoot pundits in advance, just to be sure? 

95 hi all
hey I made that pork roast recipe, it was good but a little bland

96 Bob Dole says Bob Dole won't run.  And Bob Dole would like to know how to reduce a Bob Dole erection that has been up for over 4 hours.  Every time Elizabeth looks at it she starts crying.  Please help Bob Dole out...or a....down.

97 92 Never fear lou relief is here.  Hulk Hogan will have midget (dwarf or whatever they call it ) wrestling on teevee!

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 02, 2011 11:04 PM (3TjSM)

Please tell me you are joking!

98 I'm going to Albuquerque for the Balloon Fiesta this week and hoping for the weather to be good.

That's awesome, sounds like it will be fun

99 hey I made that pork roast recipe, it was good but a little bland

Which one, chemjeff?

100

Regarding the First Lady's foray into Target, what a spectacle.  I mean, the reason she was there was to divert the public's attention away from her rococo taste and whincing decorum. Yet, even those who spin for her are out of touch with how out of touch the Obamas are and how disgusting their fuzzy tape manners and character has so diminished the house and office they hold ---- a photo op dash out to Target with sun glasses, baseball cap and the whole pretense of it all.

A spectacle in lieu of a spectacle.... wow, Billy Beer didn't even give us that.

101 hey I made that pork roast recipe, it was good but a little bland

That can be fixed. Next time you can add your preferred spices or some green chilies....but don't add them right away, or it just soaks out.

Was the meat tender?

102 92 Never fear lou relief is here.  Hulk Hogan will have midget (dwarf or whatever they call it ) wrestling on teevee!

Wow, I knew Hulk Hogan was having some financial problems, but to be reduced to this is pathetic. 

103

Okay. Thoughts: Sweating sickness=perimenopause without giddiness.

Dear, dear Journolist.  Why on Earth would you and your wife go to the theatre? To be part of the scene?  I never could understand why people continue to visit when it generally is so tiresome.  Or sleep-inducing.

Y-not, I am so happy your hubby is feeling better. 

Why do women wear uncomfortable shoes? 

104 Take a look see lou.

http://tinyurl.com/3r6y6ry

105

Regarding the First Lady's foray into Target,

Fuck her and her nanny state bullshit. God I hate liberals telling us what to do, and then claiming we are the ones trying to tell them what to do. So fucking sick of it..

Sorry guys, been one of those days..

106 Which one, chemjeff?

Posted by: Y-not at October 02, 2011 11:07 PM (5H6zj)

Oh the one I was discussing on the ONT on Friday night

107 Why do women wear uncomfortable shoes?

I don't wear them often, but when I do, I do it for love. High heels on my already long legs have a very pleasant effect on Thor's libido.

108 #88, all that will do is get everyone in the middle even more pissed at O'Bozo and probably drag many of the Democrats in mushy states with him out of office.

109 104 Take a look see lou.

http://tinyurl.com/3r6y6ry

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 02, 2011 11:09 PM (3TjSM)

Oh Dear God.

110 That can be fixed. Next time you can add your preferred spices or some green chilies....but don't add them right away, or it just soaks out.

Was the meat tender?

Posted by: MissTammy at October 02, 2011 11:07 PM (SsG4J)

Yeah the meat was really tender.  It was just falling apart.  And I only cooked it for like 6 hours I think, on low.

Which spices would you suggest?

When I store the leftovers, should I store it in the liquid, or decant it off?

111

Lonely Conservative,

What can I say, my wife likes plays. 

But tonight... the one thing I am very excited about is having a big can of Dinty Moore Beef Stew.  I went to the store this afternoon and bought some, along with my Flat Tire beer.  And I'm looking forward, in a few minutes to having some stew, bread with a ton of butter and a few brews.  

112 Scott "NorEast Lib Repub" Brown has a 3 point lead in early poll over Lizzy "I'm taking all your stuff"  Warren.

113 Posted by: LonelyConservativeIn MI at October 02, 2011 11:08 PM

Deep thoughts!  ;-)

Thanks for the well-wishes re the hubster.  I think we're both really optimistic.  I'm still kind of in a state of shock that I hadn't realized how down he'd gotten.  I am kicking myself for being a dummy (although, to be fair, he was trying to shield me from it).  But at least now we have a clearer path. 

Re the shoes: I will not wear uncomfortable shoes.  However, sometimes you can't tell if they are going to be uncomfortable, especially with sandals (heels), at least in my experience. 

I tried on some of those high heels that have the platform soles and, whoa!, how in heck do people walk in those?  Clearly I did not learn some basic female life skills when I was young!

114 Oh, and Lou, why was your day bad?  What happened?

115 I had a Savage rifle that would fire when you flicked the safety off. Sneaky bastige would only do it about every 5th or 6th shot. My Weatherby, on the other hand, works like a charm and makes one hole at 100 yards. Looks like you fired a 12 gauge slug at the target...

116

"Fuck her and her nanny state bullshit. God I hate liberals telling us what to do, and then claiming we are the ones trying to tell them what to do. So fucking sick of it."

My sister in law is a die hard lib and so I laughed at her today when she told me they had gone to eat at Olive Garden and couldn't get french fries for their kids.  She was incredulous that the waiter expected her kids to eat grapes with their chicken fingers.  She was told no french fries, or desser for that matter, with the kids meal and the kid size drink had shrunk.  Naturally the price has not been adjusted.  So she told the waiter OK I'll take a side order of fries from the adult menu.  No can do.  So she starts arguing with the guy asking him if he thinks the alfredo sauce on pasta was healthier than the french fries, etc.  I laughed and asked her why this was news to her that it had been on "the internet" that the Darden owned restaurants had gotten their Obamacare waivers and now were forced to cut the french fries.

Again I laughed and laughed and said since she supported this administration this was her own fault.  Not sure if light is starting to dawn but when you taken her kids french fries away their could be trouble.

117

But tonight... the one thing I am very excited about is having a big can of Dinty Moore Beef Stew.  I went to the store this afternoon and bought some, along with my Flat Tire beer.  And I'm looking forward, in a few minutes to having some stew, bread with a ton of butter and a few brews.  

Posted by: Journolist

After that combination I hope you have the decency sir to sleep in another room tonight.

118 Group of 5 of us 50 something single women friends shoot alot and often.  Went to the range today and got to try a friends new S&W 38 Bodyguard with built in lazer.  Nice little concealed carry but a heck of alot of fire power in such a little gun.  Accuracy past 15 ft iffy at best.  The stiff trigger is a bit off putting as well.  I am not convinced it is the one for me.  Any ideas? 

119 I only wore uncomfy shoes in my '20s when I had to for work.  It was a different world working as a receptionist in a doctor's office at that time, you dressed up.  Now, I can barely walk in heels.     

120 112 Scott "NorEast Lib Repub" Brown has a 3 point lead in early poll over Lizzy "I'm taking all your stuff"  Warren.

Taht's actually really good because Elizabeth Warren is a darling of the left and she got an awful lot of good publicity (from the left's POV) recently with her idiotic statements, and even with all that she's still down 3.

121 So she told the waiter OK I'll take a side order of fries from the adult menu.  No can do.

What.  The.  Fuck.  I would have walked out right then and there. 

122 Wow - interesting spelling and grammar in my #116 post.  I denounce myself and blame the wine.

123 After that combination I hope you have the decency sir to sleep in another room tonight.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 02, 2011 11:16 PM (3TjSM)

< Not a problem, I have good genes.

124 So she told the waiter OK I'll take a side order of fries from the adult menu.  No can do.

Wait...what?  Are there NO fries on the menu at all?

125

Apparently Perry leased a property that had a rock with

N-----rhead written on it, which they painted over and turned the rock over, for a hunting retreat.    Obviously he is a racist and should not be considered for office.  The property should have been treated like Chernobyl and  held as unfit for human habitation.

126 114 Oh, and Lou, why was your day bad?  What happened?

Posted by: Journolist at October 02, 2011 11:15 PM (734Ld)

Nothing really, and I apologize for bitching. I am super blessed.

 My daughter will bless me with a little grandaugter in Feb, Hello Kitty here we come..

Just sometimes I get so sick of stupid bs, ya know..

127 @125
"Herb" Cain can eat shit and die. 

128 She was told no french fries, or desser for that matter, with the kids meal and the kid size drink had shrunk.  Naturally the price has not been adjusted.  So she told the waiter OK I'll take a side order of fries from the adult menu.  No can do.

That is complete nonsense.  She should have left right then and spread the word about this lack of customer service.

129

Why hasn't anyone ever seen Rosanne Barr and Andy Rooney in the same place at the same time? This is getting suspicous. And how he conveniently "retires" just before the gruelling presidential campaign of "Rosanne".

130 Warren won't win, she's too much of a shrill cocktail party bitch to win over voters even in this crooked state.

131 FAT Tire.  Its FAT Tire beer.  And its good.

132

"What. The. Fuck. I would have walked out right then and there." 

Me too alex!  Why would you sit there?  I don't get it.  I think she was just in shock.  ha, ha, ha.

133 125

Apparently Perry leased a property that had a rock with

N-----rhead written on it, which they painted over and turned the rock over, for a hunting retreat.    Obviously he is a racist and should not be considered for office.  The property should have been treated like Chernobyl and  held as unfit for human habitation.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at October 02, 2011 11:18 PM (JKNDp)

[Facepalm] Stupid stupid stupid STUPID!

134

Lou,

I hear you man. And it's always ok to go off on the ONT.

The world is in a fit right now.

Very exciting news about the forthcoming addition to your family.

135

Journolist is a good husband.  Y'all take notes.

136 Unkle Joe, I assume you introduced her to the sheaudenliederhosen or whatever line the folks here use.

137

Which spices would you suggest?

Kind of hard for me to say since I don't know what kind of food you like. I like mine hot, so I go with cayenne and such, again, added later in the process so it doesn't just leach out. How much garlic did you end up using, how many cloves?

In all honesty, crockpot food can be bland to me, anyway. (Probably why my husband likes it) I suggest you go for some spicier touches in your leftovers. Once you get comfortable with the crockpot (check out more of Gushkas recipes) and cooking in general, you need to go with Peaches suggestions about braising things, the flavors are more intense.

When I store the leftovers, should I store it in the liquid, or decant it off?

I leave mine in the liquid, but that may be some low class redneck thing, like eating leftovers after three days!   You can pull the fat off the top of it that way, though, plus the flavor is in the juice.

138 Lou!  Congratulations!  

Yeah, things pretty much suck right now, and I'm not even talking about my fave team's major effin' malfunction today.   

Better times are coming!   

139 chemjeff,
Do you have the kind of crockpot where you can sear the meat in the cooking vessel before starting the slow cook process?  Because you get a lot of flavor out of that step, imho. 

140

Unkle Joe, I assume you introduced her to the sheaudenliederhosen or whatever line the folks here use.

Schaudenfraude (?)  I think (?)  Damn I didn't.  I think I'll email her with links to the articles I read about the demise of the french fry at Darden restaurants with that as the subject line!

141 Yeah, journolist sounds good, but Mr Y-not is going to the opera with me in a couple of months (Rigoletto), so that's pretty good too. 

142 Journolist,

Fat Tire is good stuff.  Unfortunately it's hard to find in some areas, especially east.

143 I am kicking myself for being a dummy

No kicking. Men don't tell you shit, they don't want to appear weak. Ya gotta watch 'em like hawks, and not believe a thing that comes out of their lying mouths, with regards to their health.

144 Me too alex!  Why would you sit there?  I don't get it.

Actually, I would probably have asked for the manager and asked for a detailed explanation as to why it was they wouldn't bring them to me, but then again I am an utter bitch like that.

Random restaurant story:  I was out for dinner with the Good Ex-BF once.  He's about 6'2" and maybe, maybe 145 lbs. soaking wet.  I order the steak.  He got a salad.  When the meals came, the waiter gave me the salad and him the steak.  I didn't really think anything about it and switched plates with him.  The waiter stopped and turned back and gave me this huge apology about how that was sexist and he was so sorry and the next round of drinks was on the house.  We both stared at him and I told him that it wasn't sexist, it was simply the odds. 

145 Umm, I have to ask.  Did anyone else here think that the "nipple fashion" was going to be custom teat coverings for milk cows?  Or was that just me? 

146

Do you have the kind of crockpot where you can sear the meat in the cooking vessel before starting the slow cook process?  Because you get a lot of flavor out of that step, imho. 

And we return to the great cast iron dutch controversy.

147 I think the server was grossly misinformed. I think they are allowed to have whatever they want if a parent (or any adult?) is with them.

Like so many kids wander in to Olive Garden on their own.

148 MissTammy, I read your yahoo email. So sweet of you! We're doing pretty well. I'm kinda watching my husband, though -- a long-time friend of his died suddenly a few weeks ago, and then his dad this past week. Kind of a lot to deal with. And we're both pooped from fighting bronchitis with not enough rest.

149 @145
I don't have a crock pot, but I thought I read that there's a brand that either heats up to high temps or that has a removal inner vessel you can put on the stove top. 

150

 The waiter stopped and turned back and gave me this huge apology about how that was sexist and he was so sorry and the next round of drinks was on the house. 

You took the free drinks though, right? That's the important thing.

151 #118 find a .38 that you could reliably hit someone at center mass at 30-50 feet. Anything less than that and someone could charge you in under 2 seconds. That's not enough for the average person to react and aim without presenting a collateral danger to themselves or bystanders.

152 Ohio Dan is right, there have been too many cooking-related ONT's lately so I'll shut up about my cooking adventures for a while anyway

153

Apparently Perry leased a property that had a rock with

N-----rhead written on it, which they painted over and turned the rock over, for a hunting retreat.    Obviously he is a racist and should not be considered for office.  The property should have been treated like Chernobyl and  held as unfit for human habitation.

Posted by: Ohio

The thing is, he was 17 years old, his dad painted over the rock, and the fucking media is going to try to make a story out of this bs. And cain, who I respected, fell for it hook line and sinker.

Meanwhile, we have a president who sat in a church whos pastor (cough, bs bs) who said gd America, who has set guns loose in America and mexico, has usurped our laws, etc, etc, etc and has said he wants to over-step congress. WTF??

154

Crazy Ants.....had a run in with those little bastards last year. ....We had bought a pickup truck load of hardwood firewod [mesquite, oak, hickory] for our smoker.....we didn't know it was infested with them.

Before long they were all over the place and invading our house. ....They don't act like regular ants.....they swarm into your house, and if you spray them they scatter in all directions, in an irratic gonzo way. ...I called them 'gonzo ants' until I saw a thing on the local news calling them 'crazy ants'.

Regular ant killer sprays don't kill them. ....Ant Baits are what worked. I used them all, scattered them everywhere. ....While my kitchen was under attack, I discovered that they will come to shallow dishes of sugar water or juice....so I put those out all over my countertops. The dishes would become black with the little buggers.

Hope this helps, if anyone has the misfortune of coming under attack from this species.

The Tudors? ....Watched it on Showtime when it came out. .....It's long on eye candy, great sets and costumes. ....But short on historical accuracy. ....They sorta put history into a blender.  That said, it has some entertainment value.

155

Unkle Joe, I assume you introduced her to the sheaudenliederhosen or whatever line the folks here use.

Schaudenfraude (?)  I think (?)  Damn I didn't.  I think I'll email her with links to the articles I read about the demise of the french fry at Darden restaurants with that as the subject line!

Posted by: Uncle Joe at October 02, 2011 11:25 PM (2uSW2)

Schadenboner ?

156 We both stared at him and I told him that it wasn't sexist, it was simply the odds.

So it was profiling. You should have sued. /s

157 You took the free drinks though, right? That's the important thing.

Oh hell yes.  Mama didn't raise no fool. 

158 I don't have a crock pot, but I thought I read that there's a brand that either heats up to high temps or that has a removal inner vessel you can put on the stove top. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 02, 2011 11:29 PM (5H6zj)

There are, I have a couple.  But I don't like them as much as just browning something in another pan on the stove and transferring it and the juices to the crockpot.  

159 And we're both pooped from fighting bronchitis with not enough rest.

So please tell me you're getting rest now, because that can go all pneumonia on you pretty quick! Especially when you're already severely stressed out anyway.

160 Well morons, sweet, sweet slumber beckons me. See you tomorrow on the morning thread.

161 Y-not, I think you were refering to comment 146 not 145.  Go check.

162 So I was, Ohio Dan! 

Seared cow teats does not sound so good.

163

Apparently Perry leased a property that had a rock with

N-----rhead written on it, which they painted over and turned the rock over, for a hunting retreat.    Obviously he is a racist and should not be considered for office.  The property should have been treated like Chernobyl and  held as unfit for human habitation.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at October 02, 2011 11:18 PM

Jeez, if I ever run for public office, I hope those people don't find out I used to fish in a place that is now called Negro Andy Canyon on the maps but wasn't always.

164 Lou!  Congratulations!  

Yeah, things pretty much suck right now, and I'm not even talking about my fave team's major effin' malfunction today.   

Better times are coming!   

Posted by: Theresa D., TPT--SCOaMF is one and done! at October 02, 2011 11:24 PM (Zgfnd)

Mine too girl, my Raiders sucked.

165 And we're both pooped from fighting bronchitis with not enough rest.

If you get frequent respitory illnesses you might want to get immunized for pneumonia. Normally doctors only want to spring for that inoculation for the elderly, but if your constantly getting bronchitis it can literally be a life saver.

166 @40 Sure you can. You just can't go the other way. And for really good practice, mix the specials and magnums. You'll quickly find out if your hand is flinching in anticipation of the shot. Good way to get over that.

@118 I agree that is the trend, and I don't see it getting any better. Everybody wants smaller frames and lighter packages for concealed carry. In a 4" barrel, a .38, even the +P, isn't too much for anyone with enough hand to grasp it right. In those little stingers, it burns. That's not a girl-thang; I resent it too, and I'm 6'2", 220.

I don't like snubbies in general -- old target shooter, I want to be able to hit at 50 feet -- but a titanium snub nose .38 will rap your knuckles with the trigger-guard. If the shooting experience is distinctly unpleasant, you can't expect shooters to practice much. Lots of new small nasty 9mm semi's out there, too.

Solution? Find a comfortable way to carry a slightly larger frame. You & I both know that's not going to happen, at least not until the initial carry craze settles down a little. I do think women have a little advantage there, with purses and more clothing styles usable without appearing out of character.

167 Yeah that Dallas/Detroit game was just funny.  In every single statistical category, Dallas won.  Except in the two that matter the most: (1) turnovers and (2) points

But more yards, more first downs, more time of possession, all of the rest belonged to Dallas.

I think Romo needs to take a week or two off so that his ribs fully heal, so that he can get back into it as a fully recovered QB.

168 CJ, I would never deem to shut you down.  I do however think it is humourous that a chemistry professor stuggles to add thyme or rosemary to roasting meat when he is comfortable mixing volatile chemicals.

169 "I think the server was grossly misinformed. I think they are allowed to have whatever they want if a parent (or any adult?) is with them. "

Could be MissTamm.  I've never been to one but I looked at their menu online and don't see fries anywhere.  The panini sandwich is served with soup and salad.  I don't see grapes on their either which is what they offered in lieu of fries.  According to my sister-in-law so am taking her word for it.  And I think the article I ready did imply that if a parent or adult ok'd it then they could get fries.  ?

170 I do however think it is humourous that a chemistry professor stuggles to add thyme or rosemary to roasting meat when he is comfortable mixing volatile chemicals.

In the lab, you don't have to eat what you make...

171 ChemJeff, Can you brown meat in your crockpot? Browning the meat produces something called "fond," which adds a lot of flavor to foods. What you do is heat olive oil on med-high heat, melt a little butter in it if you like (for more browning), and brown the meat on all sides until there is some brown stuff in the bottom of the pan. Take out the meat and throw in some chopped onions and other vegetables, stir them around until they are golden. Then pour in your cooking liquids and scrape the browned bits off the bottom of the pan (deglaze the pan). Then put the meat back in and simmer on lower heat till done.

172 Plus - and let's be honest - the stuff I mix in the lab, I'm not the one paying for it.

173

Seared cow teats does not sound so good. 

That's why wimmens don't cook bacon topless.
 

Think there is a youtube video of a call with extended teats walking across blacktop in August somewhere?

174 She was incredulous that the waiter expected her kids to eat grapes with their chicken fingers.  She was told no french fries, or desser for that matter, with the kids meal and the kid size drink had shrunk.  Naturally the price has not been adjusted.  So she told the waiter OK I'll take a side order of fries from the adult menu.  No can do.  So she starts arguing with the guy asking him if he thinks the alfredo sauce on pasta was healthier than the french fries, etc.  I laughed and asked her why this was news to her that it had been on "the internet" that the Darden owned restaurants had gotten their Obamacare waivers and now were forced to cut the french fries.
Posted by: Uncle Joe at October 02, 2011 11:15 PM

Sounds like the diner scene in "Five Easy Pieces"

175 FoxNews was the only MSM on our side.  NOW, it appears that the WH has gotten to them.  This morning on FoxNews Sunday, Wallace, who is increasingly showing his desire to BE Gregory on NBC, set up Cain to smear Perry.  Why do we harm our own?  I am fed up with MSM creating a narrative that is completely wrong.  Why can't we get a conservative on ANY MSM news program?  Can't a wealthy conservative person buy a MSM outlet?  Let it be known I cannot stand Gregory.

176 She was incredulous that the waiter expected her kids to eat grapes with their chicken fingers.  She was told no french fries, or desser for that matter, with the kids meal and the kid size drink had shrunk.  Naturally the price has not been adjusted.  So she told the waiter OK I'll take a side order of fries from the adult menu.  No can do.
Posted by: Uncle Joe at October 02, 2011 11:15 PM

I want french fries. Whatever happened to "the customer is always right"

177 Sounds like the diner scene in "Five Easy Pieces"
Posted by: kbdabear at October 02, 2011 11:39 PM

Hold the chicken salad?

178 165 Blue Falcon, I did not know you could do that. In our cases, it's been years since either of us have had bronchitis. We just got really run down recently.

179 168 CJ, I would never deem to shut you down.  I do however think it is humourous that a chemistry professor stuggles to add thyme or rosemary to roasting meat when he is comfortable mixing volatile chemicals.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at October 02, 2011 11:36 PM (JKNDp)

Well I doubt the cooking instructions say "add .58 grams of rosemary" and that he has a balance in the kitchen.

180 Okay on the WaPo story - first the serious:  The worst thing that happened to journalism was NY Times v. Sullivan.  It's nearly impossible for the media to be successfully sued for bullshit like this (though Joe McGinness and Random House sure seems to be giving it the old college try) so there's nothing to stop the hatchet jobs, especially since dueling is right out.  Second the not so serious - The only good thing about a Trump run would have been watching the media try to smear him.  "Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump, what about those pictures of you and that blonde?"  "Oh I nailed her and her twin too.  Same time.  Now that was a nice Wednesday."

181 Just wonderin, I don't play fantasy football but how many points did the GB QB rack up today?  do people keep records on the most ever in a game?

182 Whatever happened to "the customer is always right"

Well, usually.  But french fries?  You're kidding, right?  That's like ordering an atom bomb.  You can't be serious.

183 OK, my hockey team drafted (I got Chara - yay!).  Now I need to read the zillion rules and try to figure out wtf they are.  Also, it would be good to know when the season starts!

184 /sock

185

Best beef roast ever, buy a real nice roast, cook it at 450 for 15 minutes, turn the oven off for 3 hrs, then turn the heat back up for 45 minutes. Best ever. Barefoot contessa recipe.

Sorry, know ya'll were talking pork. Tee hee.

Think I am gonna make some lima beans and ham tommorow, weather is supposed to cool down in nv tomorrow.

186 Sigh - all this food talk and I'm starving!! 

187 "130 Warren won't win, she's too much of a shrill cocktail party bitch to win over voters even in this crooked state."

She sounds like every ex-wife I've ever met. I would think that even castrated Massachusetts men would not want to hear their Senator shriek, "Good for You!" at them.

188 118, You can get the trigger worked on - I prefer the SW snubbies in 357, but shoot 38s in them. The extra mass is nice. Im not sure about putting a laser on it. So much about shooting those guns accurately happens after you get it pointed right.

189 Posted by: LonelyConservativeIn MI at October 02, 2011 11:39 PM (rZZA3)

Your name wouldn't be "Michael" by any chance, would it?

190 181 Just wonderin, I don't play fantasy football but how many points did the GB QB rack up today?  do people keep records on the most ever in a game?

Aaron Rodgers threw for a career-high 408 yards and tallied six touchdowns, two of them rushing TDs. 

He earned me 50 points in my one FF league.

191 Skipping work tomorrow to play with my new (used, like new from auction) rototiller. Blueberry Sea Dog beer very good. Only one to go in the six-pack of variety.

192 Your name wouldn't be "Michael" by any chance, would it?

Did someone call?

193 MissTammy, I think this week will more restful for both of us.

194 193 MissTammy,

I think this week will more restful for both of us.

Here's to praying for that...not only for you two, but for all of us.

195 man I wish my week next week was going to be more restful
but I just finished making my to-do list for the week, and it's a mile long
sigh I don't know how I'm going to get it all done

196 "Lots of new small nasty 9mm semi's out there, too."

I just picked up the new Ruger LC-9 and it's an outstanding little powerhouse of a concealed weapon.  Tight patterns, extremely safe and practical and, at 9 mm, it can do some decent "defending".

197 She sounds like every ex-wife I've ever met. I would think that even castrated Massachusetts men would not want to hear their Senator shriek, "Good for You!" at them.

Oh. My. Dear. God.  I wouldn't even dignify this Cave Bat with a divorce ceremony.

198 but at least there's still beer.... sweet, sweet beer

199 The trouble with ".58 grams of rosemary" recipes is that spices are a natural product, and don't come marked for degrees of concentration. Running tests goes like a police narc lab; the sample is usually consumed in the test process, then unavailable as evidence.

This was a major problem in the early days of legal home brewing. Hops are now marked with a universal bittering unit. Same deal with hot sauces (although I think there's a little 'horsepower war' with those).

And if you keep letting chem profs in the kitchen, right there's the future of thyme, oregano and paprika.

200

Hey NBC! Stop trying to push Whitney!

 

It sucks!!!

201 Kratos, you had a rough week, too? Or are you talking about our beloved country in general?

202 195 man I wish my week next week was going to be more restful
but I just finished making my to-do list for the week, and it's a mile long
sigh I don't know how I'm going to get it all done

Posted by: chemjeff at October 02, 2011 11:48 PM (s7mIC)

God Bless. Life is too short to worry, wish I could make myself believe it..

203 Hmm, Occupy Wall Street silliness supported by both Mia Farrow and Nancy Sinatra, according to Twitter.  Who knew those two were still around?  Not that I thought they were dead or anything, just haven't thought about either of them in forever.   

204 201 Kratos, you had a rough week, too? Or are you talking about our beloved country in general?

In general. 

205 ChemJeff, Best wishes on getting it all done, or discovering some items don't need to be done!

206

Having just returned from the long reaches outside Barstow, (Searching for the Legend of a Battalion's worths of WWII equipment stashed by Patton in some long forgotten mine right after the Japs bombed Pearl, I have come not to praise the "O" but to neglect him by farting in his general direction...or some such.....[should have started with half a bottle of JACK prior to this worthless effort]....PPPppfff....pppffffh

207 logprof, you might want to check your Yahoo group email. It's trying to send spam.

208

175 FoxNews was the only MSM on our side.

I can't stand Chris Wallace....so I didn't watch it. ....Apparently Roger Ailes is taking Fox's programming even further to the left now. And they seem out to get Perry. ...Ruper Murdoch is one of the ones pressuring Christie to get in the race.

This thing about that land that Perry's dad has a hunting lease on is a really lame smear. ....A hunting lease doesn't mean you have posession of the land....it only means you have the right to hunt there, during season....as well as other hunters who purchase leases too.

The USGS used to use that term "ni--erhead" for rocky outcroppings and such. It is still out there in remote areas, in faded old paint.....but has mostly been painted over.

209 I don't know how I'm going to get it all done

You'll get it all done one thing at a time, my friend. Don't look at the entire list at once, just look at each thing and congratulate yourself when it's accomplished.

And just think, dinner for the entire week is already taken care of, especially if you get you some corn tortillas and a few small cans of diced Ortega chilies.

210 203 Hmm, Occupy Wall Street silliness supported by both Mia Farrow and Nancy Sinatra, according to Twitter.  Who knew those two were still around?  Not that I thought they were dead or anything, just haven't thought about either of them in forever.   

Posted by: Theresa D., TPT--SCOaMF is one and done! at October 02, 2011 11:51 PM (Zgfnd)

Yeah, they are living in their million dollar apartments. Tee Hee. Dumbasses..

One cool thing happened to me yesterday, I got id'd for beer. Could have hugged the clerk..

211 lol it's just a to-do list, but thank you for your concern

212 Lou, that's why I like to go to the Maverick gas stations here in WA to buy mine  - they card everybody! 

213 Chemjeff, you might try some lemon pepper with that pork - lightenes up the flavor a bit.  There is also cracked pepper which will add a bit of kick.  Basically, just smell the seasonings - if they smell like they'd go with pork, they probably will.

214

Posted by: chemjeff at October 02, 2011 11:58 PM (s7mIC)

Breaking down to-do lists is good too.

And I laughed when I saw your "decant" comment.  Very science-y.   

215 One cool thing happened to me yesterday, I got id'd for beer. Could have hugged the clerk..

Yeah it's funny how that works...

it goes from:
"I hope they don't card me, they might see my ID is fake"
to
"I hope they card me, now that I'm legal I can show off my legal ID"
to
"I hope they don't card me, man what a pain to have to take it out each time"
to
"I hope they card me, that means I've still got my youthful looks!"

216 lou, I'd be blissful for a week after that!

217 @196, get back to me on that. What else have you shot.

@188 tend to agree! .38+P in a .357 makes a stable platform.
The shorter the barrel, the more superfluous the laser -- or any other sight, for that matter.

I sometimes get my hand on a S&W 65LS. It's a sweet little thing, like jewelry, and a joy to hold with .38. With its listed round though it is snappy, and needs big rubber Uncle Mikes over its lovely rosewood stocks. That would sort of spoil the point of a Lady Smith, wouldn't it?

218 Solution? Find a comfortable way to carry a slightly larger frame. You & I both know that's not going to happen, at least not until the initial carry craze settles down a little. I do think women have a little advantage there, with purses and more clothing styles usable without appearing out of character.

Posted by: comatus at October 02, 2011 11:34 PM (NA+Ul)

******

Or, she could purchase two .38s.  One the light weight concealed carry titanium frame.  The other being a standard steel frame.

Practice with the steel frame, carry the titanium frame.

More expensive, true...

219 Posted by: comatus at October 03, 2011 12:00 AM (NA+Ul)

Not really sure what all that meant, but I may need to find a towel to sit on if you keep it up.

220

"Gun PORN?"

 

I'm in...

221

Undead is clever.  Sneaky, but clever.

Logprof is on to something: why does NBC/MSNBC push awful/poorly rated programs? And, how can they afford to?

222

Prioritize the todo list and polish up the to don't list and you will be amazed at what can get done.

Of course I would have a good record of that as I spend plenty of what could be productive hours haunting this den of iniquity.

And drinking booze.

223 it goes from:
"I hope they don't card me, they might see my ID is fake"
to
"I hope they card me, now that I'm legal I can show off my legal ID"
to
"I hope they don't card me, man what a pain to have to take it out each time"
to
"I hope they card me, that means I've still got my youthful looks!"

Posted by: chemjeff at October 03, 2011 12:00 AM (s7mIC)

That would be a great t-shirt!

224 chemjeff,
Just take out your frustrations on your students.  ;-)

Which reminds me of the inspirational leadership of the Duke of Wellington (as depicted by Blackadder):

Blackadder : Tell me do you ever stop bullying and shouting at the lower orders?
Wellington : NEVER! There's only one way to win a campaign shout, shout and shout again.
Blackadder : You don't think that inspired leadership and tactical ability have anything to do with it?
Wellington : NO! It's all down to shouting. WAAGGHH!

225 Also, Mike Wallaces shitty questions have turned me off to the guy.  He's a dick with a smarmy smile.  I never watch the guy anymore.

226 Since we're talking food, I've noticed something rather mysterious. Most of the cheese I buy is Kraft or similar-brand colby or cheddar cheese. I've noticed that I haven't had any trouble with it getting moldy like it used to if I didn't use it up pretty quick. What's up with that?

227 Are we back to Cooking with Chemjeff? Hi rons. Good weekend, Badgers won, Bears won, brewers won twice, and Mrs. Sailors vaunted Packers do what they do. Mrs Sailor has a Sig P232, loves it.

228 215 One cool thing happened to me yesterday, I got id'd for beer. Could have hugged the clerk..

Yeah it's funny how that works...

it goes from:
"I hope they don't card me, they might see my ID is fake"
to
"I hope they card me, now that I'm legal I can show off my legal ID"
to
"I hope they don't card me, man what a pain to have to take it out each time"
to
"I hope they card me, that means I've still got my youthful looks!"

Posted by: chemjeff at October 03, 2011 12:00 AM (s7mIC)

You can add one more...

"I hope this clerk isn't a convicted sex fiend...he's looking at my name, address and date of birth."

229 And, I'm outta here.  Gots to get up early tomorrow.

Will I ever find out what PSaGIS had to say, as mentioned in the previous thread?
I'll tune in tomorrow...

Night, all!  Pleasant dreams!

230 Since we're talking food, I've noticed something rather mysterious.

Most of the cheese I buy is Kraft or similar-brand colby or cheddar cheese. I've noticed that I haven't had any trouble with it getting moldy like it used to if I didn't use it up pretty quick.

What's up with that?

Posted by: Mindy at October 03, 2011 12:06 AM (0RSSz)

because it's not cheese but rather "cheese product"

231 230 Since we're talking food, I've noticed something rather mysterious. Most of the cheese I buy is Kraft or similar-brand colby or cheddar cheese. I've noticed that I haven't had any trouble with it getting moldy like it used to if I didn't use it up pretty quick. What's up with that? Posted by: Mindy at October 03, 2011 12:06 AM I have noticed that too. We could have Andy Rooney investigate but today was his last day.

232 The Dude, I'm talking about regular cheese, the kind I've been buying for years, not the "American Process Cheese Food."

233 @219, it means I think you're a really nice person. There, I said it.
@128 ed, I'm afraid I only agree a little. If you really expect to use a carry gun to protect yourself (and you do, right?), you need to practice with the gun you carry. If your carry piece shoots differently -- a lighter or shorter-barrelled one will, for sure -- you're essentially carrying a stranger's gun.

It's a good start, though, and any practice is better than none at all.

234 226 Since we're talking food, I've noticed something rather mysterious.

Most of the cheese I buy is Kraft or similar-brand colby or cheddar cheese. I've noticed that I haven't had any trouble with it getting moldy like it used to if I didn't use it up pretty quick.

What's up with that?

Posted by: Mindy at October 03, 2011 12:06 AM (0RSSz)

Go with Tillamook. Best cheese ever.. Expensive, but so worth it.

Night Theresa

235 Oldsailor's poet, so I'm not crazy!

236 Did someone mention beer? Or boobies? Either way, I'm in. Whas up you bunch of reprehensible reprobates?
 
No sense having a .357 and putting pussy rounds in it. You probably have to squat to pee.

237 I poopied in the potty.

238 Lou, yes, the Tillamook is good, and I can often find it on sale.

239

Since were talking about food, I've noticed that when Bush was president, every ecoli (?) outbreak was solely his fault. Like, before he went to bed at night he was supposed to check the food.

But now when it happens, its never the presidents fault.

240 237 I poopied in the potty.

Posted by: What the ONT has come to at October 03, 2011 12:12 AM (Ba7Wl)

huh?

241 No sense having a .357 and putting pussy rounds in it. You probably have to squat to pee.

Word.

242 Posted by: Jimmah at October 03, 2011 12:13 AM (g9KCn)

a-yup

E-Coli outbreak, under Bush:  DEREGULATION!!!!!!!!!
E-Coli outbreak, under Obama: CORPORATE GREED!!!!!!!!!

243

Posted by: lou at October 03, 2011 12:11 AM (R21xD)

their white chedder is good but their cheese curds are some of the worst I've ever had. If the curds are not from Wisconsin then it's sub-standard

244 239

Since were talking about food, I've noticed that when Bush was president, every ecoli (?) outbreak was solely his fault. Like, before he went to bed at night he was supposed to check the food.

But now when it happens, its never the presidents fault.

Posted by: Jimmah at October 03, 2011 12:13 AM (g9KCn

Too funny, someone blamed the cantalope deaths on the republicans. Sorry, drunk, cant find the link. But yea, its always our fault..

245

chemjeff--bachelor pot roast.

Go to the market and ask for a 3 pound brisket. Line a pan with foil, put the brisket on the foil.  Mix 1 can cream of mushroom soup with 1 envelope dry onion soup and spread it over the meat. Add 2 tablespoons of water, and wrap the foil tightly around the meat. Cook for 4 hours at 300 degrees. You will not be sorry.

 

 

246 Any lurkers out there tonight?  Speak now or forever... you know the rest.

247 cheese curds are some of the worst I've ever had

You eat poutine, don'tcha?

248 @236 how right you are there, compensator. Do you have electrical tape on your grips, too? 

I won't have a .357 with less than three inches of barrel.  Also no .460, .480 or .500 with less than eight. I expect to hit something when I fire.

249 I'm the craziest person you've ever met.  No, really.  Think of the craziest person you know.  Yeah, I'm a lot crazier than that.

250

their white chedder is good but their cheese curds are some of the worst I've ever had. If the curds are not from Wisconsin then it's sub-standard

Posted by: The Dude at October 03, 2011 12:16 AM (M8yfa)

Sir, you are a ruffian and a scoundrel.  I demand satisfaction.

251 238 Lou, yes, the Tillamook is good, and I can often find it on sale.

Posted by: Mindy at October 03, 2011 12:12 AM (0RSSz)

Yep, me too. Some things ya gotta buy name brand.

I tried the cheap peanut butter and soup brands, and they just suck, tee hee.

252 You eat poutine, don'tcha?

Posted by: MissTammy at October 03, 2011 12:17 AM (SsG4J)

yeah

253 mmm...poutine....
sounds like something I'd want to try
is it served in Wisconsin?

254 Oldsailor's poet, so I'm not crazy! Posted by: Mindy at October 03, 2011 12:11 AM (0RSSz) I think it has a lot to do with packaging.

255 249 I'm the craziest person you've ever met.  No, really.  Think of the craziest person you know.  Yeah, I'm a lot crazier than that.

Posted by: What the ONT has come to at October 03, 2011 12:18 AM (Ba7Wl)

whatever, Roseanne

256 had people over all day. i am all peopled out. OTOH they were nice people.


237 I poopied in the potty.

Posted by: What the ONT has come to at October 03, 2011 12:12 AM (Ba7Wl)

can anyone tell me what this persons beef is? anyone?
do they want more profanity? more in-depth political discussions? more Aggro- days???

257 Does anyone know of anything that I could use to search up useful information to help answer my questions?

258

Posted by: artemis at October 03, 2011 12:16 AM (EL9AK)

I'm sorry, I cannot look at your sn without thinking of God of War because Artemis is the only Greek Deity that is seen in the first GoW game but you never see or hear of her of her again in sequels.  Not even in passing.  Hmmm....

259 Why are they throwing out cow nipples? Aren't they supposed to go into spam? WHAT THE HELL IS IN MY SPAM?

260 249 I'm the craziest person you've ever met.  No, really.  Think of the craziest person you know.  Yeah, I'm a lot crazier than that.

Posted by: What the ONT has come to at October 03, 2011 12:18 AM (Ba7Wl)

Howard? is that you???

261 artemis, okay thanx

I will have to try it out, but it will have to be a while because I now have a shitload of pork loin roast that I have to eat first

262 is it served in Wisconsin?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 03, 2011 12:19 AM (s7mIC)

northern Wisconsin, closer to Canada you get, the better it is

263 their white chedder is good but their cheese curds are some of the worst I've ever had. If the curds are not from Wisconsin then it's sub-standard Posted by: The Dude at October 03, 2011 12:16 AM Yep, WI Cheese curd are#1, squeeky cheese my kids call it. I call it deep fried heaven with a cold beer and dippin sauce in the local WI tavern of your choice.

264 Well, Gushka, perhaps we're not being edgy enough tonight for that commenter, what with all this talk about recipes and guns.

265 WHAT THE HELL IS IN MY SPAM?

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 03, 2011 12:21 AM (vahvH)

Don't ask.

266 Hi Gushka!

How are the ponies and how is your arm?

267 259 Why are they throwing out cow nipples? Aren't they supposed to go into spam?

WHAT THE HELL IS IN MY SPAM?

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 03, 2011 12:21 AM (vahvH)

I thought it was hot dogs...

268 WHAT THE HELL IS IN MY SPAM? Lips, Peckers and assholes.

269 WHAT THE HELL IS IN MY SPAM?

umm you really don't want to know

270 Is there something wrong with lurking?

271 Lips, Peckers and assholes.

And whatever else was on the floor when they swept up that night. But it's good fried.

272

can anyone tell me what this persons beef is? anyone?
do they want more profanity? more in-depth political discussions? more Aggro- days???

Posted by: Gushka, Director dept. of Pure Blackend Evil at October 03, 2011 12:21 AM (QNeKQ)

Nope just a asshole. Smarter then us, doncha know.

273 WHAT THE HELL IS IN MY SPAM?

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 03, 2011 12:21 AM (vahvH)

It's at least 20% genuine human hair.

274 Roseanne Barr doesn't know history: you don't threaten the rich - according to French Revolution Rules, first you confiscate, then you guillotine. These people: we have to do everything for them.

275 ya know I've never been to Wisconsin, I'll have to go visit sometime, maybe this summer

maybe I'll get my passport and then just keep going all the way to Canada

276 271, you damn straight it is. Cube it up in Mac and Cheese is my favorite.

277 French Canadian poutine is pretty good. Looks awful, but it's good eating!

278 248 I have a 4 inch S&W SS .357, or I used to before it fell out of my boat on Lake Whatchamacallit and sadly sank to the bottom.
 
It was real handy for cracking walnuts and poking large holes in things.

279 maybe I'll get my passport and then just keep going all the way to Canada

Posted by: chemjeff at October 03, 2011 12:26 AM (s7mIC)

 

Come on up, we got lots of poutine up here...

280 Why isn't Cheney running?

281 LOVE Rio Grande Rancho Verde Chile Cerveza!

282

I have always been a fan of wheel guns for carry just because there are far fewer moving parts to go "wrong" at that do or die moment if you catch my drift. A FAV was the bobbed hammer S&W "AirLite" T1 in .38special that came stock with the Uncle Mike's grips. Very smooth release from a shoulder, waist, or ankle holster and just a scant 11oz loaded. I don't think they make em anymore so finding one on comp might be a tad difficult. Now a RUGER SP 101 with bobbed hammer in .357 with a 2 and a quarter inch barrel would be an awesome first shot take down piece..cept the weight is pushing 25+ oz and you would have to add on some Uncle Mike's just to keep the beast from jumpin yer grip.  

283 ya know I've never been to Wisconsin, I'll have to go visit sometime, maybe this summer

I've never been to Spain.

But I kinda like the music.

284 280 Why isn't Cheney running?

You mean Cheney Jr., aka The Warcock?  well, it's because he has bad hair...

285 280 Why isn't Cheney running?

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 03, 2011 12:27 AM (vahvH)

Cardio is out?  Cardio is OUT?!

286 266 Hi Gushka!

How are the ponies and how is your arm?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 03, 2011 12:24 AM (s7mIC)

ponies are mad at me since they havent been getting exercised much since i got the cat bite and got all sick. the cat scratch fever is ALL GONE. arm was great for a few days and i was horrid last night. today it was medium sucky.

all in all an ok day. lotta friends over.  nice people but meh, when you feel yuck. one was a massage therapist with auburn hair who is super sweet and cute. She worked on my arm last night and this morning and i credit her with my being able to type tonight.

i need to think about fixing kittens now. sigh. trapping those boogers is gonna be a bitch. except spec. i figure i can pick him up and just put him in a carrier.

287 280 Why isn't Cheney running? Damn dude he can barley walk much less run. He does however have this daughter named Liz...............

288

Nope just a asshole. Smarter then us, doncha know.

Posted by: lou at October 03, 2011 12:25 AM (R21xD)

so youre saying its probably Howard?

289 Well Gushka it sounds like you are doing much better
man we were all worried for you
the ponies will get over it, so will the kittehs for that matter
glad that you are regaining the use of your arm

you are in SoCal, is that right?

290 128 ed, I'm afraid I only agree a little. If you really expect to use a carry gun to protect yourself (and you do, right?), you need to practice with the gun you carry. If your carry piece shoots differently -- a lighter or shorter-barrelled one will, for sure -- you're essentially carrying a stranger's gun.

It's a good start, though, and any practice is better than none at all.

Posted by: comatus at October 03, 2011 12:10 AM (NA+Ul)

*****

Good points above. 

What we are dealing with here are trade offs.  A lighter gun is easier to carry, and thus more likely to be carried.  However, it can be less comfortable to shoot, thus reducing the amount of gun range practice.

And vice versa for a heavy gun.  Easy to shoot, lots of practice, less likely to carry.

 

Anyway, if you do it the way I talked about, you want both guns to be as identical as possible, except for the actual weight.  For example, both hammerless, both have same barell length, sights, trigger pull, grips, etc. (or however you want it configured).

Anyway, it's just a technique.  Lotta guys who carry .357s do a lot of practicing with shooting .38 loads because it is cheaper and less punishing.  Other guys who shoot .45's have a .22 conversion kit, because the ammo is so much cheaper.

So... the person could go to the range once a week, put 5 shots down range with the titanium frame, just for basic familarity and refresher and then put 50 or 100 down range using the steel frame, to practice grip, sight alignment, draw, etc and leave the range without having their hands all beat up.

But again, it is just a technique.  Everyone's got a couple.

291

ponies are mad at me since they havent been getting exercised much since i got the cat bite and got all sick. the cat scratch fever is ALL GONE. arm was great for a few days and i was horrid last night. today it was medium sucky.

Cat Scratch Fever, RR,RRR,RR

292 257 Does anyone know of anything that I could use to search up useful information to help answer my questions?

That depends.  Would you like information on

1.  Presidential primary candidates
2.  Holistic cooking techniques
3.  Extreme sexual dysfunctions
4.  The holistic cooking techniques of presidential primary candidates caught in extreme sexual dysfunctions or
5.  Hey, fuck you, you whiney-assed spoiled little girl!  Just because Mark Levin has a voice like sick cats gargling razor blades doesn't mean you get to discount what he says!

293 Gushka, Director dept. of Pure Blackend Evil Hey, I like that nic. I'm glad to hear you are feeling a little better anyway.

294 292, Sweet!

295 289 Well Gushka it sounds like you are doing much better
man we were all worried for you
the ponies will get over it, so will the kittehs for that matter
glad that you are regaining the use of your arm

you are in SoCal, is that right?

Posted by: chemjeff at October 03, 2011 12:32 AM (s7mIC)

im soooo grateful to be better.

i was really getting frightened too! i had insurance but was unable to get a dr to sufficiantly treat me. its weird when you can pay for it and cant get a dr to do diddly for love or money and you damn well KNOW what they should be doin.

296 293 Gushka, Director dept. of Pure Blackend Evil

Hey, I like that nic. I'm glad to hear you are feeling a little better anyway.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 03, 2011 12:33 AM (ZDUD4)

Thanks im pleased with the nic too.

297 Gushka, why'd your arm get sucky again??? Are you overdoing?

298 Posted by: We're from the ONT and We're Here to Help at October 03, 2011 12:33 AM (HpBlv)

What do you have in the way of hangouts in St. Joe MO?

299 okay gotta hit the hay, gotta fill up the brains of the mushy-headed yoots of tomorrow

300 Night all. Got to go to bed before I say something stupid,, Oops too late. Anyway, God Bless.

301 Regarding the bachelor pot roast. You can put potatoes and carrots in the foil with the meat. This is good, I've been doing it for years.

302 293 Gushka, Director dept. of Pure Blackend Evil

Hey, I like that nic. I'm glad to hear you are feeling a little better anyway.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 03, 2011 12:33 AM (ZDUD4)its nerve pain. doc said it'd feel crappy, get numb, tingle and do weird shit for the next three months

303 i was really getting frightened too! i had insurance but was unable to get a dr to sufficiantly treat me. its weird when you can pay for it and cant get a dr to do diddly for love or money and you damn well KNOW what they should be doin. You have to advocate for yourself and your family. My wife almost Died from Pnumococal (I know that's spelled wrong) Pnumonia. I fist doctor we saw sent her home with a flu diagnoses. She would have died had not the staff at Columbia in Milwaukee had on a Teaching doctor with the CDC area director. They quaretined me and my kids, Scared the hell out of everyone. She was in ICU for 3 days and ended up spending 2 weeks as an inpatient. Seems more and more like you are on your own.

304

276

Try this ya barnnacle,

Sliced in olive oil after ya saute with a couple cloves minced garlic/shallots,pinch of season salt, cracked pepper...let her brown some...remove from heat...drain off the oil,(keep the garlic/shallots...dice it all up and then throw it all into a pot with some of that Trader Joe's Organic Tomato and Roasted Red Pepper Soup (in a box no less), bring to simmer then a handful of Freshly Shredded Parmesan Cheese atop each serving and maybe a few parsley flakes for color....good eats 

305 301 Regarding the bachelor pot roast. You can put potatoes and carrots in the foil with the meat. This is good, I've been doing it for years.

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 03, 2011 12:42 AM (8MPk4)

i am a snob and mix HP sauce with the mushroom soup and use wine instead of water, or better yet, bourbon...

306 did i break the blog?

307 306, I don't think so.

308 Seems more and more like you are on your own.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 03, 2011 12:43 AM (ZDUD4)

I've heard over and over from my friend the nurse anaesthetist  that you shouldn't stay overnight in a hospital without another person present. Too many mistakes get made.

I can just imagine how wonderful things will be with OblablaCare.

309 Good evening all.

310 GnuBreed at October 03, 2011 12:50 AM What I don't understand is, are Doctors worse because of the dependance on Tech? Do we just track doctors better and they have always been the same or are we just big pussies and don't die when we are supposed to? I used to trust doctors, now I look at them like auto Mechanics.

311 ""No sense having a .357 and putting pussy rounds in it. You probably have to squat to pee.""

I was told years ago by a few people including gunsmiths that it wasn't actually the best thing in the world to use the pussy rounds, because the pussy rounds are shorter and start their journey farther back in the cylinder, so the bullet is less stable by the time it hits the feed area/throat of the barrel wearing it out faster, and something about eroding the cylinder from having the explosion father back in the cylinder. If I remember right the concern for the barrel throat was more for jacketed stuff, not so much for lead slugs. Who knows, I assumed these dudes were smarter than me and must have known from experience, I wasn't much of a wheel gun dude so I never tested the theory.

312

I can just imagine how wonderful things will be with OblablaCare.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 03, 2011 12:50 AM (ENKCw)

the only reason i got treatment is my moms best friend is a Hospitalist and infectious disease specialist. i had to ride an hour to her town to get treated by her at her hospital. Then she sent me to my good orthopod whose been treating my various horse injuries for 20 years, and who happened to diagnose my Lupus.

he got this shit straightened out

then told me "fang in nerve + weird bacteria= sux to be you for 3-5 months. Be grateful i know you heal fast. I'd tell other people 6-8."

BOO!

so i guess with obamacare it will all boil down to seein my vet, or sein him and my heart doc who doesnt give a shit what the govt says is the Fookin guideline.

313 Thanks im pleased with the nic too.

Posted by: Gushka, Director dept. of Pure Blackend Evil at October 03, 2011 12:37 AM (QNeKQ)

*****

No way.  Gushka, the horse whisperer, calling herself evil?  No way.

None of us in this blighted place will see heaven.

But Gushka might.

314 What I don't understand is, are Doctors worse because of the dependance on Tech? Do we just track doctors better and they have always been the same or are we just big pussies and don't die when we are supposed to? I used to trust doctors, now I look at them like auto Mechanics.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 03, 2011 12:54 AM (ZDUD4)

sigh.

ok my docs say its this... the philosophy of the new docs is crap. they arent as rigourously tested, they arent fireaters for healing people and they have this "oh well" attitude about if the patient suffers or they make a mistake.

my doctor friends think its no pride in their work, coupled with the fact the hippocratic oath is no longer drilled into them.

I dont know the truth but i can tell you this... the older guys seem to give a shit more. Seem to take it harder when i dont get better, have a similar attitude to my large animal Vet. weird. very weird. but the younger ones act like if youre not doing right its YOUR fault, not theirs, and god forbid they have to touch you.

315 312 Gushka, before the libs are done with us we may ALL be seeing vets as the free market for docs disappears.

316

None of us in this blighted place will see heaven.

Posted by: ed at October 03, 2011 01:02 AM (NIJTu)

Smoke, drink, worship Satan.  That's the ticket!

317 Gushka, Is bourbon good to cook with?

318

310

The problem is in the fact that most Doctors don't practice medicine anymore they practice "Defensive Medicine!" Meaning ..yes they order tons of tests that may or may not add to the overall value of the disgnostic track based on patient presentation, but they order these tests none the less because they use the tests has a "Bulwark" to protect them in the event of a law-suit. Especially here in Calibonya. Fucking  "A" I've seen 3 year olds with a fucking G.D cold get put thru an entire septic work-up including spinal tap because the fucking parents were just alittle TOO edgy for the E.R Doctor's liking no fucking shit!!! 

319

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 03, 2011 01:06 AM (ENKCw)

What are doctors if not essentially large animal veterinarians?

If you can work on a horse, you should be able to work on a person.  People can tell you where it hurts, too.

It ought to be interesting to share a waiting room with tigers and elephants.

320 I have always had the understanding that it is more difficult to be a vet than an GP. It seems when your patients can tell you how they feel it's a little easier.

321

No way.  Gushka, the horse whisperer, calling herself evil?  No way.

None of us in this blighted place will see heaven.

But Gushka might.

Posted by: ed at October 03, 2011 01:02 AM (NIJTu)

we were all born with yetser hara the evil inclination, and its our duty to fight it. But if you do three truly good works in your life you are not to be abandoned to ghenna, especially if you tried to live a good life, raise your kids right, and find yourself truly sorry once in a while, for them bad acts you done.

i dont assume i will go to heaven, (i really have had my moments i am thinking about that right now and how i screwed up) but i certainly dont count you all out either.

If heaven is full of Marines (and i believe it is) i bet it has room for you all, too. I maean think about what Marines are really like!

God said David was most beloved of his heart, and David was a man who drank, womanized, and murdered a man for his wife... I think God can love you all too. Seems like He likes morons.

322 Now open your mouth so we can take a look at that brain.

323

It ought to be interesting to share a waiting room with tigers and elephants.

Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2011 01:10 AM (4ixH5)

i have done this and even got my picture taken with a tiger. No elephants. just the tiger alot of snakes a tortoise and a llama. weird afternoon.

324 280 Why isn't Cheney running?

Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at October 03, 2011 12:27 AM (vahvH)

I would love to see Cheney run, since my lib sister's head would explode.

On the other hand, I'd have to clean up the mess.

325 Robert, my daughter's fiancee is in a pre-vet program; rumor has it that it is harder to get into vet school than med school.
 
I'm thinking I should practice whinnying. I can already snort real well.

326 323, I FKN Hate llamas. One spit on me at a petting zoo.

327 Sorry Cowbabes fans but Romo is damaged goods. Ever since the botched hold against the Seahawks and subsequent tackle for NO POINTS he's been a lost cause. Such is life.

328 327, He's not that bad. Other than the throw to witten his receivers fkd him.

329

Smoke, drink, worship Satan. That's the ticket!

Posted by: Robert at October 03, 2011 01:07 AM (4ixH5)

****

I'm drinking right now, and getting ready to spark up a laramie cigarette.

Two out of three ain't bad, right?

http://tinyurl.com/3o7pqku

330 Fucking  "A" I've seen 3 year olds with a fucking G.D cold get put thru an entire septic work-up including spinal tap because the fucking parents were just alittle TOO edgy for the E.R Doctor's liking no fucking shit!!! 

Posted by: Richard at October 03, 2011 01:08 AM (mRRji)

i have seen this too.

but this was weird. i had my mom have a TIA and very clearly it was a small stroke, stuck out her tongue and it went sideways and the ER docs told my dad it was an anxiety attack and sent her home and this was at fucking Hoag Hospital!

this is the second hospital in an affluent part of Orange County where i have seen someone come in with a clear emergency  at a not busy day or time, and have the docs go... meh

331

for his sake, he needs to be traded and get a new lease on his career. Before he becomes a cancer on the city.

332 ok my docs say its this... the philosophy of the new docs is crap. they arent as rigourously tested, they arent fireaters for healing people and they have this "oh well" attitude about if the patient suffers or they make a mistake. Posted by: Gushka, Director dept. of Pure Blackend Evil at October 03, 2011 01:05 AM (QNeKQ) I think this plus avoiding responsibility for decisions by depending on guidelines and not the facts of the individual case. And a frightening lack of curiosity. Also, hello all.

333 We Coloradoans did something stupid this last election. There was some measure on the ballot to guarantee the right of patients and doctors to make/accept payments any way that was mutually agreeable. I think it was to protect us from being limited to processing our payments through the government. I can't believe Coloradoans voted it down.

334

Gushka, Director dept. of Pure Blackend Evil at October 03, 2011 01:13 AM (QNeKQ)

*****

I think you just confirmed my original comment.

You rock, kid.

335 331, He lost me when he lost Carrie Underwood to a Hockey Player. I questioned his Judgment in totality after that.

336 this is the second hospital in an affluent part of Orange County where i have seen someone come in with a clear emergency at a not busy day or time, and have the docs go... meh Posted by: Gushka, Director dept. of Pure Blackend Evil at October 03, 2011 01:20 AM (QNeKQ) Oh, hell, I was sent home twice with congestive heart failure (they didn't check) and the third time I was in ER being "monitored" for 12 hours and barely saw a doctor before they moved me to the ICU. I know we all expect miracles because of TV and it's not like that, but seriously, the way it is now is horsepuckey.

337 325 Robert, my daughter's fiancee is in a pre-vet program; rumor has it that it is harder to get into vet school than med school.
 
I'm thinking I should practice whinnying. I can already snort real well.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 03, 2011 01:16 AM (ENKCw)

much harder these days. i think the residencies are harder. two of my closest friends are vets. brilliant people and no i havent met docs their age as smart as they are with half the humility and talent. sad really. i wish they could sent the human docs thru a portion of the vet school that gives the humility and the grit part. Maybe its the grueling internships they still do the time for with Vets that they arent doing to young docs these days.

338 Amanda Knox is innocent, and hot.

339 i have been sick for 25 years. the quality of treatment has gone down horribly in the last six years. and treatment may be more high tech but level of care was better 20 years ago in some ways.

 richard what do you think?

340 Well, I'd better call it a night before I feel compelled to tell what happened when I saw the doctor for food poisoning one time. Ya'll have a good week.

341 Gnight Mindy.

342

my doctor friends think its no pride in their work, coupled with the fact the hippocratic oath is no longer drilled into them.

Posted by: Gushka, Director dept. of Pure Blackend Evil at October 03, 2011 01:05 AM (QNeKQ)

*****

That's kinda scary...but how could it be otherwise, with partial birth abortions and infanticide now and death panels in our future?

(a tad hyperbolic, but also kidding on the square.  Besides, this is the ONT.)

 

343 Anytime somebody compares modern-practice doctors to mechanics, I stand up for my mechanic. I know within a few bucks what the operations will cost, and if anything goes wrong the mechanic makes it right, no extra charge. I can always understand his diagnosis, and the guy at the parts counter can read his handwriting. The doctors could learn a lot from him.

There's a new puppy clinic opening every month around here, but large-animal vet is a vanishing job. Used to be, every 160 acres or so was a farm, and a county would support three, four full scale practices. Now the typical farm has no livestock, and there's only one species per "operation" -- you either feed up hogs, or cattle, or have chicken houses.

So each big outfit has a vet on call until they're established, trains the hands and managers what to look for, then goes to flying a guy in if there's an emergency (which is huge). Like human clinical practice, it's all kind of...clinical. So, there's not nearly as much work for cow vets as there used to be, which you can call efficiency if you want to.

Vets know just as much medicine as MD's, that's for sure. Caring for pets is nice, but it doesn't seem as purposeful as the old profession where families' livelihood, and the welfare of huge herds of an area's food supply, were at stake.

344 317 Gushka, Is bourbon good to cook with?

Posted by: nerdygirl at October 03, 2011 01:07 AM (8MPk4)

bourbon is AWESOME to cook with especially for that cheap cut of meat you think wont be tender. you put it in a ziploc with season salt organo bourbon and mustard powder and pepper.  let it sit all squished together for at least three hours. if you are brave, cook it all togther with butter or olive oil and onions....mmmmmm.

345 Rick Perry's wife needs to urge him to drop out of the race.

346 Oh, hell, I was sent home twice with congestive heart failure (they didn't check) and the third time I was in ER being "monitored" for 12 hours and barely saw a doctor before they moved me to the ICU.

I know we all expect miracles because of TV and it's not like that, but seriously, the way it is now is horsepuckey.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Kate Beckinsale Fan Club at October 03, 2011 01:23 AM (bxiXv)

****

Dude, I was about to comment about how you can't keep a Sith Lord down, and then you change your nic to something with Kate Beckinsale?

.

.

.

OK, I can see that.  She's hot.  I guess that's better than this gaywad Star Wars crap...

Go boobies.

347 345, You know, I have never been a big rick Perry fan. He's always been my #3. However, when you see him being attacked like they are attacking him and by who, I tend to think he may be a better candidate then I gave him credit.

348

339

Old Sailor said it, too much tech and not enough of the laying of hands.

I was taught a technique decades ago, taking a radial pulse (on the wrist) using 3 fingers instead of the usual 2. With practice, one could sense the pulse wave passing under the tips of the fingers and you could descern what was called the "Dicrotic Notch" which led you to possible issues with the valves within the heart itself. Just by taking a pulse with your fingers. That is how far gone the healing art has become. 

349 Vets know just as much medicine as MD's, that's for sure. Caring for pets is nice, but it doesn't seem as purposeful as the old profession where families' livelihood, and the welfare of huge herds of an area's food supply, were at stake.

Posted by: comatus at October 03, 2011 01:32 AM (NA+Ul)

my friend who was a cow vet out here for all the dairies was an awesomely smart and funny man. i think his license plate said FIXCOWS anyway he was an art lover and very practical. he just retired and move out of town. i miss eatin lunch with him.

and yeah he knew peoples livelihoods are at stake.

the economy is hell on the horse docs. people dont treat as soon or as well. wait on shit that should never wait more horses get put down. its weird. My one friend and keep going to costco and the movies for lack of routine calls which sux. its the same for all of them. 

but horses are worth BIG MONEY in our showhorse area and so that will concentrate your efforts too, tho we know one guy practicing who is a horse vet who hates horses and really i know horrible things that have happened over there

350 Go boobies. Posted by: ed at October 03, 2011 01:33 AM (NIJTu) Word.

351 man I LOVE Russian tears in EVE

352

O.K Richard needs a updtae...WTF is a "nic"

 

anyone...feel free.

353 Yours is Richard, Mine is Oldsailors Poet.

354 347 345, You know, I have never been a big rick Perry fan. He's always been my #3. However, when you see him being attacked like they are attacking him and by who, I tend to think he may be a better candidate then I gave him credit.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 03, 2011 01:39 AM (ZDUD4)

I know what you mean. But, the ones attacking Perry are his "fellow" conservatives.

355 354, It's almost like we know too much about people and disqualify them for shit that everyone else has done to on degree or another. We really need to knock this shit off.

356 348

339

Old Sailor said it, too much tech and not enough of the laying of hands.

I was taught a technique decades ago, taking a radial pulse (on the wrist) using 3 fingers instead of the usual 2. With practice, one could sense the pulse wave passing under the tips of the fingers and you could descern what was called the "Dicrotic Notch" which led you to possible issues with the valves within the heart itself. Just by taking a pulse with your fingers. That is how far gone the healing art has become. 

Posted by: Richard at October 03, 2011 01:39 AM (mRRji)

ok so you agree with me. older docs have ART and are puzzle solvers and the younger guys are TECHNICIANS who rely on formulas diagnostic guides and are confounded by atypical presentations or complicated combinations of issues...

we have the same problem in the horse business with all the old guys dying and the kids that quit the business and never listened to dad to learn the ART. I like to say about the old man who raised me "I was not his most talented kid. i was the one who stayed."

horse trainers these days get horses in the barn and if they get problems they ship them and get horses that have no resistance to them. they never ever listened long enough to figure out how to Fix problems and work out ways around resistances. I see medicines problems the same way. used to be no horse was just thrown away. it was a shame on you. Now, not so much.

my great orthopod LOVES PUZZLES and loves complicated problems, so much so hes made a life of fitting tiny pieces of broken bones together with plates and screws if need be... Hes the guy the other doctors take their families to.

357 Old Sailor said it, too much tech and not enough of the laying of hands. Posted by: Richard at October 03, 2011 01:39 AM (mRRji) The better the tools the better, people are just over-specializing and skipping the basics. Hell, Doctors don't even do most tests anymore, nurses and technicians do, but the Doctor makes all the decisions. Based on a report, which is itself based on standards based on averages, all of which means eff-all to the individual patient. Sometimes I think they'd do better rolling dice.

358 352

O.K Richard needs a updtae...WTF is a "nic"

 

anyone...feel free.

Posted by: Richard at October 03, 2011 01:43 AM (mRRji)

mine is Gushka. Diminutive form of Karagush. a real life nickname given by a russian friend. Playfully means "little bird," tho Karagush is the female black eagle used for hunting wolves from horseback in Central Asia.

and now you know what my russian friend thinks of me. Could be the knives i think...

359

Gettin slow in my middle age...

Shoot M&M's, I'm all outta prattle so it's time to skee.....daddle.

Onward towards the rosy dawn until I post again.....

 

night all

360 hmm naming your energy drink Cocaine is either genius or idiotic

361 night rich

362 Good Night Richard.

363 At the next Republican debate, the candidates should call Obama out for accusing them of condoning the "booing" of a self-described "gay" US soldier. I heard one person boo after hearing the question, which most likely was directed at the question itself, not the soldier.

364 363, If one of them had any balls they would say, Your question is stupid, Here's the deal. Then bring up solyndra, F&F or read off John E's stats that were posted here first, then found there way to HA and several other blogs.

365 "washed up actress Roseanne Barr is perfectly willing to kill people who don't conform to her concept of spreading the wealth," Aren't all commies/socialists willing to kill people who do not conform?

366 Good night, Here is one of my favorite songs from one of my favorite singers. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux7HgO9QhAc Sorry you have to cut and paste. I have a mac and have no idea how to link.

367 364 363, If one of them had any balls they would say, Your question is stupid, Here's the deal. Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 03, 2011 02:03 AM (ZDUD4) And if your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle. I'd like to think one of them would step up, but so far when they do *try* to step up they make themselves look like idiots. Half the problem is the adversarial press corps(e).

368 366 Good night, Here is one of my favorite songs from one of my favorite singers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux7HgO9QhAc

Thanks for the link to the Foxy Lady.

Good night.

369 Aren't all commies/socialists willing to kill people who do not conform? Posted by: mike at October 03, 2011 02:05 AM (Omq+n) Indubitably.

370 wonder if Walken or Giamatti would sign a copy of this?

http://tinyurl.com/3sbp8l7

371 ""i have been sick for 25 years. the quality of treatment has gone down horribly in the last six years. and treatment may be more high tech but level of care was better 20 years ago in some ways.""



Thats kind of how it seems. I was lucky having never been sick, I barely get colds, and really don't know what the flu feels like. the few times I ever had to deal with an emergency room, or doctors was way way back ....until recently

Well this past june I lost my mom to stage 4 lung cancer, and it wasn't even the cancer that killed her, it was some fucking blood disease she got in the hospital. The hospital collapsed her lung during a biopsy, and then left her to lie in bed for 7 fucking days with a tube in her lung while doctor moe , curly, and larry had their daily circle jerks trying to figure out why her lung wasn't coming back.

I said from about day 2 that the tube has to be leaking, have whoever did the tube look at it. Oh doctor moe looked, found nothing, doctor curly decides on day 3 for some xray., doctor larry comes in later in day 3 and finds nothing, day 4 mom starts to swell up from air getting into her shin, she swelled up so bad her eyes became shut. I start pleading with them, the fucking line is leaking, I get Doctor shemp telling me it could be from blood not returning because a tumor was close to an artery. One smart doc days no way, its air and explained his reasoning, which made total sense. I said thank you, now will you send somebody who knows wtf they are doing and find this motherfucking leak already, she's laying around too long now, day 5 and 6 brings back the same worthless fucking parade of assholes. On day 7 they finally send up the chick who did the tube in the first place, she finds the leak immediately. Day 8 mom's lung is finally ok, tube is gone.  By day 11 she's dead from sepsis, from laying around with a catheter in her for 11 days, along with some fucking nurses who barely kept her cleaned up. My plan was to get her out ASAP and bring  her for out patient treatments. Nope, hospital fixed that plan real good with their total fucking lack of urgency for anything. 7 days...7 fucking days they stood around with their fucking thumb in their ass. yeah, mom was doomed, you don't have happy endings with stage 4 lung cancer, but they didn't even give her a shot at trying.

I saw many freinds in hospitals over the years, but what I saw here was fitting for a fucking 3rd world country, and this was at a top notch hospital.

372 Posted by: Berserker at October 03, 2011 02:09 AM (FMbng)

My condolences for your loss. I sure hope you've talked to an attorney about it.

373 I saw many freinds in hospitals over the years, but what I saw here was fitting for a fucking 3rd world country, and this was at a top notch hospital. Posted by: Berserker at October 03, 2011 02:09 AM (FMbng) First off, I am so sorry. I know how helpless it can be to be dealing with a hospital, though the circumstances were different my Grandfather died in a not unsimilar fashion. Frankly the only reason I'm alive is because I wasn't going to die in the first place (probably), I just couldn't move because I didn't have enough blood flow to keep anything but my brain oxygenated. Most people (broken bones aside) who heal were going to heal, and doctors can best help by not being idiots and freaking listening for once in their misbegotten lives.

374 351 man I LOVE Russian tears in EVE

Posted by: The Dude at October 03, 2011 01:43 AM (M8yfa)

Hah!  When I played that game one thing you could always count on was if you were dealing with Russians the minute they got the upper hand they'd double-cross you.

Makes you really appreciate Reagan.

375 ""My condolences for your loss. I sure hope you've talked to an attorney about it.""

Thanks. Never really thought about an attorney. It never really crossed our minds really because what can you do?

376 ""First off, I am so sorry. I know how helpless it can be to be dealing with a hospital, though the circumstances were different my Grandfather died in a not unsimilar fashion.""

Thanks. I have a doctor friend he tells me more people die in hospitals from sepsis than gunshot wounds. thats just fucking unacceptable.

377 Posted by: Berserker at October 03, 2011 02:09 AM (FMbng)
 
I offer my sorrow for your loss. Then I tell you that you must be proactive in any future care situations. If necessary, hire a consultant to come in and take a look.  Read up on any unusual conditions that arise. The internet can keep them on their toes.
 
Stop taking their words as if they come from gods. They don't. They come from fallible humans that make mistakes.

378 375 ""My condolences for your loss. I sure hope you've talked to an attorney about it.""

Thanks. Never really thought about an attorney. It never really crossed our minds really because what can you do?

Posted by: Berserker at October 03, 2011 02:19 AM (FMbng)

You could contact the news media and tell them your story; the same day you contact an attorney. Yours is a very compelling case.

379 Thanks. I have a doctor friend he tells me more people die in hospitals from sepsis than gunshot wounds. thats just fucking unacceptable. Posted by: Berserker at October 03, 2011 02:22 AM (FMbng) Approximately 100,000 people per year die from "medical misadventure," of over 1.2 million who experience some kind of medical misadventure (basically doctor/nurse screwed up). Yeah, that's pretty unacceptable.

380 ""I offer my sorrow for your loss. Then I tell you that you must be proactive in any future care situations. If necessary, hire a consultant to come in and take a look.  Read up on any unusual conditions that arise. The internet can keep them on their toes.
 
Stop taking their words as if they come from gods. They don't. They come from fallible humans that make mistakes.""


Thanks. Believe me, I didn't take anything they said as gospel. I questioned everything. I was on them the whole time, because I did read up on lung tubes. You what a doctor is? An asshole that reads a bunch of books and takes tests. I can read the same books. What they SHOULD have over me is experience, but in mom's case I would say the score was me 1 and them zip. I told them from day 2 the tube was leaking. Occam's razor as far as i was concerned, air had to be leaking into the lung cavity and was putting pressure on the lung. Instead I get the keystone cops.

381
I saw many freinds in hospitals over the years, but what I saw here was fitting for a fucking 3rd world country, and this was at a top notch hospital.

Posted by: Berserker at October 03, 2011 02:09 AM (FMbng)

i am so so sorry. i dont know why but with us already sick ones the younger drs sometimes dont even seem to try. I wish this handnt happened to you. all people need good care. drs shouldnt stop trying because youre already sick. That was my terror. that they quit trying for me because they knew i was sick.  Sadly my orthopod said:

"silly girl you thought they were there to fix you! they are just there to get you in and out!"

hell of a note man. but will have to change the culture and start teaching kids responsibility again.

382 Occam's razor as far as i was concerned, air had to be leaking into the lung cavity and was putting pressure on the lung. Instead I get the keystone cops.

Posted by: Berserker at October 03, 2011 02:36 AM (FMbng)

large animal vets will be proud of you and listen when you guess intelligently. they like an idea of what you think is up since you know your beast. but drs seem to only get offended.

383 ""large animal vets will be proud of you and listen when you guess intelligently. they like an idea of what you think is up since you know your beast. but drs seem to only get offended.""

What killed me was when the girl who did the tube to start with came up on day 7. She did a few things that no other doc did to test my mom. She rolled her onto her side, along with some other things, and she found the leak immediately, and she told me exactly what I already knew.  The kicker was she was probably a chick in her late 30's, blond, cute as hell, and fucking american.

384 Thanks. I have a doctor friend he tells me more people die in hospitals from sepsis than gunshot wounds. thats just fucking unacceptable.

Posted by: Berserker at October 03, 2011 02:22 AM (FMbng)

my sister is an embalmer and i can tell you every hospital to be scared of in the area for a 100 mile radius.

pneumonia is a close second. people get it in the hospital and its resitant to treatment. or if you are very unlucky the docs make a mistake on you, then they pound fluids into you till your lungs fill up. cause f death is obvious and the mistake is buried. sissy has caught a few of those and calle the Medical examiner to take a second look to spank someone.  And once she saved a live person while it was happening by pretending to be a nurse making an anon tip to the ME about something happening on the floor. Literally saved the womans life.

if an ambulance took me to that hospital i would call a taxi to take me to another.

385 What killed me was when the girl who did the tube to start with came up on day 7. She did a few things that no other doc did to test my mom. She rolled her onto her side, along with some other things, and she found the leak immediately, and she told me exactly what I already knew.  The kicker was she was probably a chick in her late 30's, blond, cute as hell, and fucking american.

Posted by: Berserker at October 03, 2011 02:48 AM (FMbng)

notice she physically manipulated the patient.

you know, richard is right... theres a LOT you can learn by doing that. thats how you diagnose animals because they cannot speak. You have listen to gut and move the limbs and touch the gum and see what the cap refill time is. put hand on flank feel if it is lumpy, can you feel gassy gurgling or a stone, which feels different but also sticks out. i remember learning to feel different kinds of aedema. theres a hard kind a soft watery kind and a soft kind that doesnt bounce back properly. you feel it tho.

touching you patient is important.

and with horses if you dont touch respectfully, you patient kicks you. Docs can learn from that too.

386 Mom had 3 really good nurses, the rest were from average to total fuckups. One nurse was a total idiot, kept tripping on mom's IV line and other lines and always looked confused. She was in the hospital for a month, so she only had the 3 really good nurses for a few days here and there. The doctors were all fucking idiots, everything was speculation, and not a concrete answer from any of them. There was this one tall skinny buck toothe motherfucker with a a completely annoying perpetual smile that came in like 2 days before she died and says "gee you know, i look at your mom and she looks kinda too weak for chemo, you need to be at least walking."

I said you motherfucker, she was walking fine until you assholes wrecked her lung.

I wanted to to throw his silly ass out that 5th floor window.

387 Anyway, in the end I got to see the healthcare system up close, and if this is the average, then we are in deep deep shit. If this is the best in the world, then god help the rest of the world, and by the time chairman obama gets done fucking up healthcare  it's gonna be god help humanity.

388
Berserker, that is horrible. One thing I've found out is that American-educated nurses are scarce these days. Supposedly the imports from Thailand and the Philippines have taken a licensing exam or whatever, but the few remaining American nurses find them incompetent and undertrained. It's a whole f*cking expose waiting to happen for an enterprising investigative reporter, but it won't because anyone who puts the patients first will be called a racist.

389 386
Thanks for contributing, christine. And how are your cock sucking skills?

390 It's a whole f*cking expose waiting to happen for an enterprising investigative reporter, Posted by: arhooley at October 03, 2011 03:07 AM (ymPoE) Or a unicorn, if you want better chances of finding one. I'm sure there are real investigative reporters, but I've seen just as many real unicorns.

391 Got a link to Russian Tears? Buncha Goon Pets are out near me camping the lowsec pipes to kill ruskies.

392 ""Thanks for contributing, christine. And how are your cock sucking skills?""



Lol, I needed that laugh.

393
Berserker, I'm curious, how did you know the problem was a leaking tube? How could you tell?

394 I wanted to to throw his silly ass out that 5th floor window.

Posted by: Berserker at October 03, 2011 03:02 AM (FMbng)

when i had the pertussis last year and the pulmonologist gave me steroids without antibiotics and then fight with me about wether i had lupus and seemed unconcerned about the GIANT abcess on my lung, Grim nearly did just that.

i was sooo sick and remember thinking dimly, gasping for breath..."doesnt that jackass notice the vein is throbbing in Grim's forehead and that hes clenching his jaw and grinding his teeth?"

very softly in an overly controlled voice Grim asked "And what do we do when she runs out of antibiotics in the middle of the steroids and turns into pneumonia again?"

"oh i think she'll be fine but if shes not you can take her to the ER."

yup he said that. And i had an 11 cm long abcess on the lung already. the only reason hes alive is i said "Grim, i need to go home." So he took me to my mom's. They were gonna go back and kill that bastard together.

395 No links other than the old news on Eve News but some little birdies are saying that a massive trap is Bout to be sprung. Can't wait for the inclusion of Dust, shit gonna get even crazier

396 396 No links other than the old news on Eve News but some little birdies are saying that a massive trap is Bout to be sprung. Can't wait for the inclusion of Dust, shit gonna get even crazier

Posted by: The Dude at October 03, 2011 03:22 AM (M8yfa)is it like totally lame that i play no video games ever, except Borderlands, which i love so much i have ringtones from it?

397 ""Berserker, I'm curious, how did you know the problem was a leaking tube? How could you tell?""

Well before she had the biopsy, the doc in whatever room thats does it warned me. He said there is a 50-50 chance the lung would colapse. he then said if that happens she will need a tube, and it will come back in a day or so. Well of course it collapsed, so that night I started hitting the net for info. After a day or so of it not coming back I started digging deeper and was reading how the lung is basically a balloon inside of a balloon. I built harleys for years, so I mounted a ton of tires in my time. I started thinking about how an inner tube starts displacing the air inside a tire when you pump it up for the first time to seat the bead. You hear air leaking past the spokes as the tube fills the cavity and displaces the air. I started thinking about the lung and what would happen if the air they were pumping in was escaping from the lung, but not out of the outer ballon, what would it do to the lung if the air built up. That with some other reading it started to dawn on me what may be happening. When the air finally built up to where her neck and shoulder and face started swelling up I knew right away. Air is literally filling up her fucking body, it has to be leaking. Anyway, it was a combo of reading and just common fucking sense.

398 I will say this. I have made a shitload of isk on the latest Jihad swarm thing. I can't make Hurricanes, Ruptures, or Brutixs fast enough and the margins have widened considerably

399
Posted by: The Dude at October 03, 2011 03:22 AM

At first I thought that was something, but then Gush indicated it's a game.


Berserker, I suspected it was plain mechanical engineering that guided you. I swear sometime I'm gonna go take a course in it.

400

Berserker at October 03, 2011 03:29 AM (FMbng)

*****

Yeah, that's about it.

401 ""yup he said that. And i had an 11 cm long abcess on the lung already. the only reason hes alive is i said "Grim, i need to go home." So he took me to my mom's. They were gonna go back and kill that bastard together.""


You would have loved this one doctor.

It all started when my mom's back started hurting. She always had a tricky back, sometimes it would go out and not do it again for years. We thought this was on of those times. By week three I said mom this isn't the same, you need an MRI, you have to go get one in case a disk is bad. Well they get the report back and it says metastatic lesions. I was like omg, i know what that is, she got cancer, but what kind. Poor dad was cluless, he said hmm i have to look that up, but I already knew. Mom's regular doc sent her to the hospital, so at least she can get some pain meds.

I did NOT want her where she was, its not knows as a cancer place, so I fought for 4-5 days to get her moved to what IS a good place to be. We go through hell. We finally get her there, and this doc comes in with this fucking attitude. Like how did she get here, I don't know this woman, and then makes a comment along the lines of well she has stage 4 cancer so its terminal, like wtf you want me to do about it. My mom did not know how bad she was at the time, so she hears this fucking fuckwad and looks straight up at me from the wheelchair. The doc walks out so i said you ok mom? She looks at me and says "end of the line for me."

I wanted to kill that fucking doctor. I had a quick flash of me grabbing his lower jaw and breaking it off his skull and beating him to death with it.

402

Berserker at October 03, 2011 03:45 AM (FMbng)

****

Somebody once said something along the lines of this...

"You can judge a society by how it treats the people in the dawn of life, the shadow of life, and the twilight of life."

Meaning the young, the sick/disabled and the old.

I don't think that guy treated your mother very good.  What a turd.

403 ""I don't think that guy treated your mother very good.  What a turd.""


He has no clue how close to a brutal death he was. God as my judge, I was feeling something in me about to snap when he pulled that stunt. For a brief moment as this jerkoff was talking I actually caught myself looking for a chair to beat his face in with. I swear on my mom's soul, I envisioned punching into his mouth hard enough to make my fist exit the back of his skull. I'm not violent, I can't even hunt, but this dude was like a laughing grim reaper, and the only time I saw mom cry during this whole fucking episode was after this cocksucker got done with her. I wanted to stomp his guts.

404 I wanted to kill that fucking doctor. I had a quick flash of me grabbing his lower jaw and breaking it off his skull and beating him to death with it.

Posted by: Berserker at October 03, 2011 03:45 AM (FMbng)

seriously WHAT is wrong with these people?

you know im in pretty good shape and 20 years past my expiration date. but what will happen when a doc treats me like that man did to your mom is anyones guess with Grim involved. That is flippin incredible.wow. im stunned and i am familiar with that shit. i had a guy treat my friend with the stage 4 cancer like that. She refused morophene (he wanted her to take a pill and just be comfortable at my house till she died and gave her a couple weeks) and went home and got treatment. thats was months ago. BUt she was a fierce advocate for herself and when they told her crap like that she said bullshit.

i am stunned but happy cuz i love her.  but i hate docs like that and refuse to see one that acts like that even once. you have one chance with me, and you fuckup and act all like im a meatbag and you can fucking never see me again... but im stunned... at a cancer hospital even. wow. i didnt know shit like that happened in america. Canada yeah.  but wow. well i knew i had a friend  almost die being sent home once with a giant abcess in her abdomen, get told she had an STD. but wow. your story is really stunning in a horrible way.

405 my friend is now riding her horse in 50-100 mile races again.
still has cancer but i think shes gonna live.

406
Posted by: Berserker at October 03, 2011 03:45 AM

Just to let you know, you can multiply all that times a hundred for OB/GYNs and what they used to put women and even babies through. I don't know if it's any better now because I only go to female nurse-practitioners for my checkups. The stories of condescension, abuse, malpractice, and downright cruelty are legion.

I'm sorry you had such an awful experience. When my great-uncle passed away a year ago he had superb care. I was incredibly grateful for all the concern these total strangers in ERs and Kaiser and ultimately hospice showed for him (and me).

407
Berserker, I hate to leave you in such shape, but I've gotta go. We'll think of something to do to that son of a bitch doctor.

408 ""my friend is now riding her horse in 50-100 mile races again.
still has cancer but i think shes gonna live.""


I was praying for a miracle for mom, that somehow she would make it. I have a friend with multiple myeloma. Life expectancy if god treated him was 3-5 years. Its been almost 10 years, been in remission for 6. He is a walking miracle. I sent mom to the place that saved him, but they robbed her.

409 ""Berserker, I hate to leave you in such shape, but I've gotta go. We'll think of something to do to that son of a bitch doctor."

oh don't worry, I'm fine. I had 3 months to put it all in perspective. I'm at peace with all of it.

410 Not an isolated occurrence.

First, Drs. have huge egos as most of them are scary smart but like most brainy people, they have little people skills and experience.

Med Schools tend to exaggerate some of these flaws and an internship will turn them into a zombie with no feelings. (In their defense, drs see the worst of people on their worst day of their life and the outcomes usually aren't good. If the outcome isn't death then it's a good outcome.)

They are trained to ignore the patient (patients get in the way of diagnosis) and to rely only upon other trained individuals.

I'm talking Western Medicine here so this applies to most English speaking countries medical community.

Hospitals are strapped for qualified nurses and doctors so they take anyone they can justify to a medical board as qualified.

This tends to gather in a lot of undertrained people who are in it only for access to America and/or the bucks.

I counsel anyone to not rely on your doctor. Listen to what they say, ask questions and if you don't like the answers look things up and if they won't change your treatment, raise hell or leave.

411 If a comment has no one to see it, did it make a point?

(well mine don't make a point to often anyway.)

_{tap, tap, tap 1, 2, 1, 2 testing testing.} ^{Is this thing on?}

412

Sidebar:

Prohibition

"The many flaws in progressivism -- the top-down, big-government, high-taxation model that seeks controls for benevolent reasons yet invariably falls prey to corruption -- are as blatant today as they are in Burns and NovickÂ’s film." [ArthurK]

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Would TIVO that, but have already studied it. Ehh, maybe I will tivo it.

And yes, anytime there is a ban on something, you can bet with high confidence that it was a liberal/progressive idea. Its "what they do". The progressive mind is 99% consumed with what to take, and what to ban.

413 Morning Morons, Unprotected sex in France means no deodorent. And you better not flinch going down, or she'll cut ya like a fresh baquette, Bud!

414 Fuzzy Caribbean Crazy Ants vs. Fire Ants

415 414 unprotected sex? Cannibal model nanny from Egypt eats her husband.

416 Just reading this post now as I was celebrating Lions and Tigers WINS yesterday.  I'm tellin' ya, the Shit Mitten is on the way to being a winner again!

417 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.So is Tony Romo.