September 04, 2011
— andy Just saw video of this on the morning news, but I couldn't find it to link.
First Motocross, Now His Shotgun: Jon Huntsman Shows a Moderate Can Be Macho
CONCORD, N.H.—Jon Huntsman, who has made much of the motorcycles he owns, bragged about his shotgun Saturday as he wooed gunowners in a state where the former Utah governor is counting on a breakout performance to vault him into the race for the GOP presidential nomination.“I’ve been shooting guns since I was, I guess, 6, when I started with a BB gun, and then a .22 when I was 12, which I still have, by the way. And then I have a shotgun, a 12-gauge shotgun,” Huntsman told reporters outside Concord’s Everett Ice Arena, where more than 50 gun vendors were gathered for a show and sale.
No report on whether he asked if he could get him a huntin' license there.
Update: Underwhelmed by Huntsman - Good piece, especially in regards to asshat campaign consultants John Weaver and Mark McKinnon.
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Posted by: Wolfwood at September 04, 2011 04:09 AM (Bjkw0)
If Vic has undergone what I think he has, he may not feel up to typing for a few more days. And the cat that got his fingers is like the Chesire cat from Alice.
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 04, 2011 04:09 AM (i3+c5)
“I’ve been shooting guns since I was, I guess, 6, when I started with a BB gun, and then a .22 when I was 12, which I still have, by the way. And then I have a shotgun, a 12-gauge shotgun,”
time for a big boy gun...donchathink 50 gun vendors present, and no upgrade?? dude.
Posted by: pitchforksandpowder at September 04, 2011 04:10 AM (lhnjO)
http://tinyurl.com/3e2hc2y
Posted by: Hrothgar at September 04, 2011 04:17 AM (i3+c5)
Posted by: Retread at September 04, 2011 04:18 AM (BO5ap)
Posted by: Corona at September 04, 2011 04:20 AM (fh2Y7)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 04:25 AM (+gfwN)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 04:26 AM (+gfwN)
They feel the need to send notices out every time he takes a dump..
Posted by: Dave C at September 04, 2011 04:26 AM (hUvc0)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 04:26 AM (+gfwN)
cribbed from Insty: Obama's approval rating of the American voter at all-time low
I can't link on this stupid browser, and it rejects my tinys anyway
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 04:30 AM (+gfwN)
Steve Zahn is one guy..
Jude Law is another (he still gets work but not like he used too)
Colin Farrell..
Anyway, many of these guys seem to be propped up but for whatever reason, the public doesn't support them.. shitty choices in projects and movies.. Or just flat out poor public persona.. They fizzle out... they get jobs still but are not the headline star that they were proposed to be..
Seems like the same way with Jon F. Huntsman..
Posted by: Dave C at September 04, 2011 04:32 AM (hUvc0)
Maxine Waters and Tom Friedman on Meet the Fucking Press with David Gregory firing softballs. Coming up.
Or do I watch Christine Amanpour try to bend Jim Demint around her middle finger?
Chris Wallace has Dick Warcock Cheney on FNS. All these at the same time.
What to do? What to do?
Posted by: The Fucking CBC at September 04, 2011 04:36 AM (4sQwu)
Posted by: No Whining at September 04, 2011 04:36 AM (Lw69R)
Yeah, you know what? I've got a Remington 870 tactical shotgun that looks pretty bad-ass, but I don't feel the need to tell people about it to prove that I'm a man. I let my enormous genitals do my talking for me.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at September 04, 2011 04:38 AM (2mD9T)
So if he finds himself on West Pico in Los Angeles, will he talk about all the different strains of weed he has.
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at September 04, 2011 04:38 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: steevy at September 04, 2011 04:41 AM (fyOgS)
Posted by: The Fucking CBC at September 04, 2011 08:36 AM (4sQwu)
Cartoon Network?
Posted by: Tami at September 04, 2011 04:41 AM (X6akg)
http://tinyurl.com/3mdkr8m
Sounds more like something that ought to be at the Onion.
Posted by: Retread at September 04, 2011 04:41 AM (BO5ap)
Link added
cribbed from Insty: Obama's approval rating of the American voter at all-time low
Posted by: Truman North, TPT
Posted by: Dave C at September 04, 2011 04:43 AM (hUvc0)
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 04, 2011 04:44 AM (XdlcF)
Yeah, you know what? I've got a Remington 870 tactical shotgun that looks pretty bad-ass, but I don't feel the need to tell people about it to prove that I'm a man
Yeah, I just picked up one of those a couple of months ago. Great home defense weapon. One thing I learned when I bought it, though. I'll never, ever buy a gun from Cabela's again. What a monumental pain in the ass.
BTW, that's a pretty nice looking shotgun that ol' Horseface is totin'. A gentleman's bird gun if I ever saw one. Way out of my price range. He's a man of the people alright.
Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at September 04, 2011 04:48 AM (zxrQh)
but I don't feel the need to tell people about it
So are we not people? Is that what you're trying to tell us??
Hmph.
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 04, 2011 04:48 AM (XdlcF)
Obama is still suffering from the Speech Illusion, the idea that he can come down from the mountain, read from a Teleprompter, cast a magic spell with his words and climb back up the mountain, while we scurry around and do what he proclaimed
At JWF. But trust me, you don't want to know who said it.
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 04, 2011 04:53 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 04, 2011 04:57 AM (luMaO)
Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at September 04, 2011 04:57 AM (zxrQh)
Oh, I don't know, it's kind of heartening to find even the dimmest can learn if the lesson is presented over and over again.
Posted by: Retread at September 04, 2011 04:59 AM (BO5ap)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 05:02 AM (+gfwN)
Oh, I don't know, it's kind of heartening to find even the dimmest can learn if the lesson is presented over and over again.
Lolz.
Wow. Can I kill a thread or what?
Whew. I thought it was me.
Also at JWF, some people are resisting learning:
President Obama has tried to be a conciliator, somebody who seems averse to confrontation
Srsly??
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 04, 2011 05:03 AM (XdlcF)
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
(Michelle Antoinette's brother coaches for Oregon St.)
Posted by: logprof at September 04, 2011 05:04 AM (lh7Yc)
Posted by: steevy at September 04, 2011 05:06 AM (fyOgS)
Posted by: captain smith at September 04, 2011 05:07 AM (1kwr2)
Posted by: steevy at September 04, 2011 05:07 AM (fyOgS)
Posted by: steevy at September 04, 2011 05:08 AM (fyOgS)
re: Oregon State loses to a FCS team
Moral of the story: Never name a sports team, especially a men's football team, after a vagina
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 05:09 AM (+gfwN)
Moral of the story: Never name a sports team, especially a men's football team, after a vagina
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 09:09 AM (+gfwN)
--Yeah, even putting "Fighting" in front of it doesn't help.
Posted by: logprof at September 04, 2011 05:10 AM (lh7Yc)
In other news, the Georgia Bulldogs plkayed in Buck Rogers uniforms, and still couldn't beat the very plain-looking Boise State team. Also, the Bayou Bengals hung 40 on the Oregon Ducks in their convincing opening victory.
And the Fighting Irish still suck your grandmother's eggs.
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 05:10 AM (+gfwN)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 04, 2011 05:11 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: steevy at September 04, 2011 09:08 AM (fyOgS)
--Well, technically, he does. It's just a state government teat.
When Barry gets run out of town, maybe he'll hire Moochelle as a "special consultant" to the team for 400 grand a year.
Posted by: logprof at September 04, 2011 05:12 AM (lh7Yc)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 04, 2011 05:12 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: USS Diversity at September 04, 2011 05:14 AM (aD5Kx)
Posted by: steevy at September 04, 2011 05:18 AM (fyOgS)
Heh:
Given that Obama schedules his speeches around pro football and "Dancing With the Stars," it takes chutzpah to complain that he has been treated disrespectfully by a coequal branch of government.
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 04, 2011 05:20 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 05:21 AM (+gfwN)
Speaking of team names, my old H.S. in VT had the Indians and the school where most of my friends attended were the Crusaders. In a typical Vermont PC move, both renamed their teams a few years back.
No word on if either of them chose The Fighting Hairpies.
Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at September 04, 2011 05:22 AM (zxrQh)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 05:23 AM (+gfwN)
Posted by: steevy at September 04, 2011 05:23 AM (fyOgS)
Did the aide have the brilliant senator on a leash? Otherwise he might wander off and get lost.
Posted by: Retread at September 04, 2011 05:24 AM (BO5ap)
Posted by: USS Diversity at September 04, 2011 09:14 AM (aD5Kx)
Didn't hear the story, but I'm pretty sure how I would have reacted.
Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at September 04, 2011 05:24 AM (zxrQh)
The thing that bothers me is St. Johns is the Red Wave... and Syracuse is an orange
because, just think of all the citrus they grow in upstate new york
Why can't they celebrate their history as religious and ethnic institutions?
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 05:25 AM (+gfwN)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 05:25 AM (+gfwN)
Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at September 04, 2011 05:26 AM (zxrQh)
WTF was up with Boise States shoes though,were they pink for breast cancer or day glo orange??
I didn't like either uniform, but I think the Boise State shoes were orange. Matches the school colors.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 04, 2011 05:26 AM (zgZzy)
Posted by: steevy at September 04, 2011 05:27 AM (fyOgS)
You ever see the Boise State stadium from overhead or from a distance? Like a blimp shot?
No, you have never. seen that. Because the stadium is basically single-sided with a token bleacher on the opposite side. It is literally designed to show alllll the fans to the TV cameras at once.
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 05:28 AM (+gfwN)
Also at BotW:
Which brings us to an intriguing observation from reader Tim Magee: "Could the President be brought down by a single poll? How about Obama vs. Hillary Clinton among Democrats? I think she could win that poll, and I don't think Obama could recover, regardless of whether Mrs. Clinton ran."
Let's find out. Somebody please commission that poll.
Interesting thought. I find it hard to believe that Democrats still have any enthusiasm for Mrs. C, but I find Democrats hard to believe in general, so who knows.
Posted by: Mama AJ at September 04, 2011 05:29 AM (XdlcF)
Posted by: rdbrewer at September 04, 2011 05:29 AM (APh3a)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 05:29 AM (+gfwN)
Kara Krill, a clinical business manager on New York's Long Island, has claimed breach of contract, breach of good faith and fair dealing, discrimination on the basis of her disability and gender, and negligent misrepresentation on the part of Cubist Pharmaceuticals.
Krill, who developed a reproductive disability called Asherman's syndrome after she gave birth to her first child in June 2007, and her husband hired a surrogate mother, or gestational carrier, to carry and deliver their second child. After learning the gestational carrier was pregnant with twins in November 2010, Krill informed her employer that she expected to go on paid maternity leave when the twins were born in May 2011, according to the suit.
When Krill had her first child in June 2007, she received 13 weeks of paid leave under Cubist's maternity leave policy. But a Cubist human resources analyst informed Krill she would be entitled to five days of paid leave under Cubist's adoption leave policy and not any paid leave under Cubist's maternity leave policy. The company provides adopting parents who work 20 hours or more per week five paid days of leave plus up to $4,000 in expenses for the adoption, according to court documents. The company's paternity leave policy also provides male employees who work 20 hours or more per week five paid days of leave.
In an email to the human resources employee, Krill complained about what she said was discriminatory treatment.
"As we have previously informed you, the children being born are mine and were conceived with my husband. They are only being carried by [a gestational carrier] as a result of my physical disability. ... Cubist's treatment of me differently than other employees having babies is not fair and is placing me in an untenable condition," she wrote, according to court documents. "But for my physical disability, I would be receiving the paid maternity leave offered by Cubist. Accommodating my disability would not require [Cubist] to provide me with any more benefit than other mothers."
ABC
About that whole physical recovery from pregnancy and birth thing....
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 04, 2011 05:31 AM (EeYDk)
Posted by: steevy at September 04, 2011 05:31 AM (fyOgS)
Get off my ass.
Posted by: Boise State Stadium at September 04, 2011 05:32 AM (APh3a)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 05:33 AM (+gfwN)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 05:35 AM (+gfwN)
Posted by: No Whining at September 04, 2011 05:35 AM (faKJk)
--Good grief, it's a de facto adoption; the whole point of actual maternity leave is recovery from the physical childbearing experience. I'll be curious as to whether the judges in this case are worried about the make-up of a zygote. She should have confirmed with her employer her compensation before embarking on the ridiculous surrogacy odyssey.
Posted by: logprof at September 04, 2011 05:36 AM (lh7Yc)
Posted by: Slublog at September 04, 2011 05:36 AM (Jvdxe)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 09:33 AM (+gfwN)
--Their conference has banned the Broncos from wearing blue uniforms at home games. Stupid, stupid decision.
Posted by: logprof at September 04, 2011 05:37 AM (lh7Yc)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 05:42 AM (+gfwN)
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 05:43 AM (+gfwN)
Posted by: Slublog at September 04, 2011 09:36 AM (Jvdxe)
--Just read it too. I now think even less of Huntsman than I did before. Romeny also is the scion of a successful LDS family, but at least he has proven himself business-wise as has elected experience (whatever criticisms of the latter record I may have). I could get drunk, hold my nose, and vote for Romney, but not for Huntsman.
Posted by: logprof at September 04, 2011 05:45 AM (lh7Yc)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 05:48 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at September 04, 2011 05:49 AM (6IV8T)
Wow...I just read that too. Did you see the part where McKinnon was actually a supporter of the SCoaMF, but was the one tasked to prep Palin for her debate with Palin?
Who were the fucking idiots that hired these two. Weaver was the fucker who "leaked" the BS story to the NYT about the alleged affair McCain had...and he was part of the McCain team???????
He used to work for the DNC???
WHAT.THE.FUCK??? How in the fuck did these fucking Pieces of shit get hired to run the GOP campaign????
Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2011 05:52 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 05:54 AM (ZDUD4)
how did they get hired to run McCain? Easy. The fix was in. Only possible explanation for McCain runnnig such a stupid campaign.
And you might be able to get drunk and vote for Romney, but Romney is not able to get drunk and vote for himself.
Weird.
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at September 04, 2011 05:54 AM (+gfwN)
The wife just turned on the TV and, apparently, Gloria Allred has a new show on NBC.
Can't wait not to watch that crap.
Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at September 04, 2011 05:58 AM (zxrQh)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 06:04 AM (ZDUD4)
I denounce myself for laughing.
There's still no liquor sales--packages or by the glass--on Election Day in Indiana, lest candidates buy your vote with a shot o' rotgut at the local saloon, or sumpin'. Gotta stock up the night before.
Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 04, 2011 06:04 AM (luMaO)
Posted by: Piñon Farmer at September 04, 2011 06:07 AM (IzuWw)
They simply do not have anything more to say.
Maxine Waters and Tom Friedman sound as if they want Zero to go really big or something, maybe like the gummint hires everyone, gives ev'a'body a job, like, you there, you go and break all the windows in those houses, and you over there, I'm talkin' to you, yeah, you go and fix all dem windows.
We can all see what is coming, and it won't be pretty. The JEF will move forward with his plan, that to throw out program need after program need, no real specifics, but enough of a taste to sound good to the independents, then watch, as expected by him and his cynical campaign staff, and see the House Rs and maybe even some of the R candidates, reject his plan elements.
It will be a blame-game campaign. And an ugly one.
Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at September 04, 2011 06:09 AM (4sQwu)
I got into a very heated discussion here a few days back regarding how Mr. Mittems' business experience could help turn the economy around.
I called serious bullshit on that. Mittens is apparently smart..and has done well for himself, but his experience, especially put in context of his policy and performance as governor, suggest he has no understanding of how to change the economic climate to allow growth, let alone the inclination to do so.
He did well while at Bain Capital trimming the fat of businesses within the prevailing regulatory and tax structure. While governor, he did nothing to improve the business climate, but rather made it worse with his policies.
He raised corporate taxes and actually proposed a regional cap and trade program that he admitted would damage industry and cause job loss.
I'm surprised that this isn't any attention, but his own economic development cabinet head, the goofily named Ranch Kimball, said Mittens had no program to promote economic growth.
Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2011 06:10 AM (AnTyA)
MTP just came on here, and I had to change the channel because I just cannot stand to listen to Friedman's idiocy.
Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2011 06:11 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2011 09:52 AM (AnTyA)
morning Moron Nation......beedubya, you seem alittle tense there. some Sunday morning cowbell can fix that.
Posted by: Racefan at September 04, 2011 06:12 AM (64oQE)
Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2011 09:52 AM (AnTyA)
I've thought about that myself, and I came to the conclusion that it stemmed from McLame himself. He was kind of a prototype SCOAMF -- Teh One is the production version.
Posted by: Piñon Farmer at September 04, 2011 06:12 AM (IzuWw)
How can anyone not like that song??
Not tense, just fed up with the general stupidity of the GOP.
Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2011 06:14 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at September 04, 2011 06:16 AM (6IV8T)
McCain's campaign was a dysfunctional mess. Hiring either one of those weasels should never have been an option, given their past employment. Between his bad hires, multiple "suspensions of campaigning" and almost complete unwillingness to hit Obama on his past, I'm surprised the election was as close as it was.
Posted by: Slublog at September 04, 2011 06:17 AM (Jvdxe)
Posted by: Barbarian at September 04, 2011 06:18 AM (EL+OC)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 04, 2011 06:19 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: Piñon Farmer at September 04, 2011 06:20 AM (IzuWw)
Not sure if your nom de blog is a NASCAR reference, but even if not, I think you might get a giggle out of this
Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2011 06:20 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 06:27 AM (ZDUD4)
We just didn't give enough money to foreign banks and green jobs companies that went bankrupt.
Yeah, I can see a blame game campaign. What I can't see is a working blame game campaign.
Posted by: MarkD at September 04, 2011 06:29 AM (iYBP2)
Posted by: stace at September 04, 2011 06:30 AM (lYlx9)
Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2011 06:31 AM (AnTyA)
Hi, everybody.
You know who I really like? That Huntsman fellow.
He has executive experience and he is a statesman. The best part about Jon Huntsman is his approach as a candidate.
Huntsman doesn't need to attack Obama. He doesn't even need to mention Obama! That's the key to winning in 2012.
Posted by: long time republican at September 04, 2011 06:32 AM (KiooU)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 06:33 AM (ZDUD4)
..and GACK!!...Friedman is still there
Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2011 06:33 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 04, 2011 06:35 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 06:36 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 04, 2011 06:38 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 10:33 AM (ZDUD4)
Yeah, 2008 was a real eye-opener for me when McCain's hired guns started dissing McCain and Palin in the days BEFORE the election. I couldn't believe that. I'm used to the usual blamegames that happen after losing an election, but these creeps did it before election day. In a sane world that should ruin their careers forever.
Posted by: stace at September 04, 2011 06:38 AM (lYlx9)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 04, 2011 06:39 AM (eOXTH)
They feel the need to send notices out every time he takes a dump..
Posted by: Dave C at September 04, 2011 08:26 AM (hUvc0)
In all fairness, that's about the most interesting thing I've heard about him so far.
Posted by: Ms Choksondik at September 04, 2011 06:40 AM (nxptv)
Did Obama make the drivers use the servants' entrance by the garbage, or is that just for socialist holy men?
Posted by: HeatherRadish at September 04, 2011 06:41 AM (luMaO)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 06:42 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Y-not at September 04, 2011 06:43 AM (HH31x)
Weasel Zippers quotes the actual speech where Perry called for fencing in high traffic areas on the Mexican US border and where Perry CALLS FOR FUCKING TROOPS ON THE MEXICAN BORDER TO SECURE IT.
They are afraid of Perry.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at September 04, 2011 06:44 AM (XCXho)
The nice thing about Jon Huntsman is that does everything...just moderately.
He's balanced; I like that.
Posted by: long time republican at September 04, 2011 06:45 AM (KiooU)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 06:45 AM (ZDUD4)
Yep.
I'm sick of defending him on the same lame charges.
Even on the illegals issue, which I don't think is his strongest, I'd like to know what candidate is running on mass deportations.
Posted by: Y-not at September 04, 2011 06:45 AM (HH31x)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 04, 2011 06:48 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 06:48 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: mrp at September 04, 2011 06:49 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 04, 2011 10:39 AM (eOXTH)
He always wearing a scarf. He thinks that goofy affectation makes him look hip or sophisticated somehow.
Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2011 06:53 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 06:54 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Tami at September 04, 2011 06:56 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Racefan at September 04, 2011 07:00 AM (64oQE)
Posted by: Frank G at September 04, 2011 07:00 AM (1rPxL)
I think for the full Palin treatment the family has to be involved. Fair or not, Palin's family did provide a certain amount of fodder. It'll be interesting to see if there's much of anything to "report" on Perry. If they are going with the "he's gay" whisper campaign, that makes me think they have nothing else.
Posted by: Y-not at September 04, 2011 07:02 AM (HH31x)
Were both so filled with adulation when young that they now cannot bear to fail? Or can they only lose gracefully if the losses are not of their making?
We are now beginning to see the impacts of an entire generation, the self-esteem generation, who have been handed accolades for merely possessing potential. They didn't swing and miss, they were merely fine-tuning their game. Everyone received a trophy. Everyone was a winner. In a generation where no child has ever been taught how to deal with failure, both LeBron and Obama make for fine elder statesmen.
Imagine, two generations have been brought up in the manner ascribed to both these men cowards. How many thousands of similarly petulant and self-serving young folks will we need to clean up after in our daily lives.
Parents need to take a long, hard look at these two and realize that, despite their successes, they are weak and cowardly and, not every person will make it to the NBA, much less the presidency. How will their children compensate for their short-comings when they can't conceive of holding an actual job?
It's gonna be a bumpy ride.
Posted by: As If! at September 04, 2011 07:02 AM (piMMO)
I had picked one out at Gander Mountain on a Saturday afternoon and was scheduled to take shotgun lessons the next morning. However, I never made it to the lesson. I ended up in the hospital with a AICD (CRT) device implanted in my chest. Now I can't fire a shotgun because of the jarring to the upper body.
Damnit!
At least I hadn't paid for the gun yet.
Posted by: As If! at September 04, 2011 07:06 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 07:09 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: ex pat at September 04, 2011 07:14 AM (rsOPT)
Hmmm. Thinking to self How can I get my doctor to approve?
I might have to hone my skills of persuasion.
Posted by: As If! at September 04, 2011 07:14 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: As If! at September 04, 2011 11:06 AM (piMMO)
grandpa's are the ones to take shotgun lessons from....... and if you end up with his. thats a good thing.
Posted by: Racefan at September 04, 2011 07:15 AM (64oQE)
My grandaddy let me fire the rifle, but never the shotgun. And, sadly, he has passed. So, the local guy who trains other instructors will have to do.
Posted by: As If! at September 04, 2011 07:17 AM (piMMO)
One of the best parts is the stock exhibitions--even tho' it's just looking at sheep, cows, etc., you can see first-hand what dedication and responsibility REALLY mean. The kids involved are so damn great. Guess you could say they are the embodiment of America.
One of the things that struck me during the day was the proliferation of tattoos--I don't remember EVER seeing so many--from teens to people my age. Back in the day, they were confined to the ride workers, obvious ex-sailors, and the occasional biker. That isn't meant as an indictment, just an observation.
All in all, a tremendous day.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 04, 2011 07:18 AM (ud5dN)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 07:18 AM (ZDUD4)
It's pretty good money to bet that it was these clowns idea for McLame to "suspend" his campaign for that emergency meeting in DC. The meeting that was set up as a photo op for the SCOAMF to look like he was "cool and in charge"
Posted by: kbdabear at September 04, 2011 07:19 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: As If! at September 04, 2011 07:19 AM (piMMO)
I also have an old 20 ga. Wingmaster 870 that my dad gave me. I plan to take the wife out and let her try it out.
Posted by: Piñon Farmer at September 04, 2011 07:20 AM (IzuWw)
Posted by: Racefan at September 04, 2011 07:21 AM (64oQE)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 07:21 AM (ZDUD4)
The Democratic Underground raffled a shotgun?!!!!
Posted by: As If! at September 04, 2011 07:21 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: As If! at September 04, 2011 11:21 AM (piMMO)
Took the thought right outta my head!
Posted by: Tami at September 04, 2011 07:22 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 07:23 AM (ZDUD4)
Curious that the media (almost*) never advances Democrats in name only for elections--well, unless it's against a Republican. I wonder if Gabby Giffords got any media love during her initial primaries agains more leftist candidates?
* I say "almost" because Bob Casey and Bob Casey Jr., both of whom are so moderate-conservative it's surprising the DNC allowed them to call themselves Democrats, were media golden-boys in PA. I even voted for Casey Jr. for state attorney general back in the day, Ah, Pennsylvania, home of the pro-life Democrats and pro-choice Republicans, and where a majority of the state legislature was turned over in a single election just a few short years ago...
Posted by: Conservative Crank at September 04, 2011 07:23 AM (vNpDB)
Aw, c'mon! Not you too!
You didn't think that was a serious question did you?
Posted by: As If! at September 04, 2011 07:24 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Piñon Farmer at September 04, 2011 07:25 AM (IzuWw)
Sounds like Perry's opponents on the GOP side have a honesty issue to address with themselves before they address Obama's blatant lying.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at September 04, 2011 07:25 AM (XCXho)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 04, 2011 07:26 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Tami at September 04, 2011 07:27 AM (X6akg)
@153--didn't find any, this was a pretty small affair. Just did the cheesy fries,(with bacon), fried dough, and strawberry shortcake that was easily the finest I've ever encountered. Plus the obligatory cotton candy.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 04, 2011 07:31 AM (ud5dN)
Old Sailor... tsk tsk
Posted by: As If! at September 04, 2011 07:33 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: Racefan at September 04, 2011 07:33 AM (64oQE)
Strawberry shortcake....yum. I can't remember the last time I had a great dish of it. The last few times I've had it there has been a weird artificial type of taste to it. I'm guessng non-dairy topping and artificial sweeteners were used.
Maybe I need to go to a county fair.
Posted by: As If! at September 04, 2011 07:36 AM (piMMO)
Posted by: beedubya at September 04, 2011 07:37 AM (AnTyA)
NATO kills ex-Gitmo detainee in Afghanistan
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — NATO and Afghan forces have killed a former Guantanamo detainee who returned to Afghanistan to become a key al-Qaida ally, international officials said Saturday.
Sabar Lal Melma, who was released from Guantanamo in 2007, had been organizing attacks in eastern Kunar province and funding insurgent operations, NATO spokesman Capt. Justin Brockhoff said.
Troops surrounded Melma's house in Jalalabad city on Friday night and shot him dead when he emerged from the building holding an AK-47 assault rifle. Several other people were detained, NATO said.
After the fall of the Taliban, Melma, 49, was given the rank of brigadier general in the Afghan National Army and placed in charge of approximately 600 border security troops in Kunar, according to a file made public by WikiLeaks.
But he was suspected of still helping carry out rocket attacks against U.S. troops, and he was captured in August 2002 while attending a meeting with U.S. military officials in Asadabad and transferred to the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay in October that year.
While imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay, the U.S. determined he was a "probable facilitator for al-Qaida members" and was also thought to have links to Pakistan's intelligence service. In 2005, he was described as a "medium risk" to the United States.
He was sent back to Afghanistan in September 2007.
Willie al-Horton
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at September 04, 2011 07:39 AM (EeYDk)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 04, 2011 07:39 AM (eOXTH)
@171--All the ingredients for the shortcake were locally produced, it's a local landmark. No artificial crap of ANY sort.
You can find similar stuff at most smaller fairs, the large ones unfortunately tend to go with "store bought " ingredients.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 04, 2011 07:44 AM (ud5dN)
My 870 is for close in work. Home defense. 18 inch barrel, pistol grip, extended magazine. For that purpose, you don't need hot loads.
Sounds like the same one I have. I have it loaded with #4 shot.
Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at September 04, 2011 07:45 AM (zxrQh)
Posted by: Osama bin Truck Monkey, TEArrorist at September 04, 2011 07:48 AM (jucos)
Speaking of Outlaw...
There was a full-on SWAT take down of a couple of meth labs in town a few days ago. One, was at the local HQ for the Outlaws motorcycle gang. It was straight down the road from me, about 3 miles away. I had no idea they even had an HQ here.
Posted by: As If! at September 04, 2011 07:58 AM (piMMO)
No rich politician would ever boast of having an 870, or a side-by-each. Over'n'unders is where it's at, and my Browning Citori is about as cheap as you can go and get into that club. Mine doesn't have much engraving.
The fact that he does not claim to have ever shot a high-power rifle (and consigns precision smallbore to teenagers, the tacky little shit--he's just lost the NCAA vote!) speaks volumes about his disengenuity, and his hypopenilism as well. Even Obama claims to shoot .223. But he's lying.
GW Bush? Weatherby Athena, 20 gauge.
Posted by: comatus at September 04, 2011 08:10 AM (aK/ua)
Jesus guys, bragging about your 870's is like showing off your belly-button. Sure they're OK, but aren't they like issued at birth
Heh. I suppose.
Actually, I grew up shooting Winchester Model 12s. My Dad had the whole set from .410 to 12 guage. I have to say, when I was an early teen I preferred my Mom's Browning Sweet 16 for ducks and quail. Light as a feather as I recall.
Mom was a total bitch about making sure I cleaned it right, though. Sometimes there was just no pleasing that woman.
Posted by: The Outlaw in the Heavenly Hall at September 04, 2011 08:19 AM (zxrQh)
Hey, nobody said a rich pol should own an 870. Just pose with one for hoi polloi and then laugh about it later at the club.
Posted by: mrp at September 04, 2011 08:31 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 04, 2011 08:50 AM (nyKxa)
Posted by: mrp at September 04, 2011 08:52 AM (HjPtV)
Posted by: Piñon Farmer at September 04, 2011 10:07 AM (IzuWw)
--Excellent. Reason, it turns out, has Onions.
Posted by: logprof at September 04, 2011 08:56 AM (lh7Yc)
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 04, 2011 08:56 AM (nyKxa)
Good stuff.
Posted by: As If! at September 04, 2011 08:59 AM (piMMO)
_______
According to Wikipedia, Huntsman was born and raised in Palo Alto, California.
Posted by: Anachronda at September 04, 2011 09:03 AM (6fER6)
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at September 04, 2011 09:09 AM (e8kgV)
And native Palo Altonians shoot what, pinball maybe?
Posted by: Piñon Farmer at September 04, 2011 09:10 AM (IzuWw)
Excerpt:
PalinÂ’s running for President as a free market populist, and the only questions that remain are when she is going to formally announce and if the electorate will opt for a message of free market populism above those of big government and crony capitalism.
Posted by: mrp at September 04, 2011 09:22 AM (HjPtV)
If she runs she will lose to Perry, brutally.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at September 04, 2011 09:29 AM (jRuZW)
Yup, her best hope would be to sit this out and take a cabinet post or ambassadorship.
I like my Winchester 97 Trench gun by the way....the barrel shroud gives it magic powers according to the Brady bunch
Posted by: sven10077 at September 04, 2011 09:45 AM (AEIYh)
... any advice regarding the 877 887 Nitro Mag I won at a DU banquet I recently attended? Sell it and replace with an 870 or keep it?
Ooops, maybe I got no opinions because I obviously didn't even know what I won at that DU banquet.
Posted by: Piñon Farmer at September 04, 2011 09:56 AM (IzuWw)
Posted by: Ernst Blofeld at September 04, 2011 10:44 AM (V7mkK)
If I ever won the Presidency, I'd have to claim executive privilege to short-circuit the DC gun laws and take my collection with me. Maybe I could get interesting loaners from the Smithsonian's dusty back room and from the overflow warehouse at Anniston Army Depot.
"Yes, Secret Service folks, the President has a 1911 in most of the furniture and a M1928A1 Thompson and full-house M4A1 under the Resolute desk. Deal with it."
Posted by: SGT Dan at September 04, 2011 12:33 PM (uetv9)
Posted by: Second Grave on the Left Audiobook at September 04, 2011 05:27 PM (NmraG)
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